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brisk ravine
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this guy

remote bay
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God why am I even arguing with a brainwashed 1.8 user

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I forget y'all are all the same

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Bye

brisk ravine
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imagine I explain everything and he things I'm arguing 😩

remote bay
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You, the 1.8 users and spigot fan boys are the problem in the community

brisk ravine
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im

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not a

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spigot fan boy

remote bay
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Didn't say so

brisk ravine
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this is the most offensive thing I've ever heard in my life

remote bay
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Said your group AND spigot fan boys

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Never said you were both

brisk ravine
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I'm not entirely a 1.8 player but alr

remote bay
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But whatever

brisk ravine
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I just think of profits against the work that I'd have to put

remote bay
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You speak of work but legit have not stated a single instance where latest is more work

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Compared to 1.8

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Lol

brisk ravine
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bro

remote bay
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I have developed plugins for both and I can literally say latest was way faster and easier to work with

brisk ravine
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I've been giving instances of where the work would end up more even in regards of OldCombatMechanics

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ok good for you

remote bay
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OldCombatMechanics is an attempt to bring back old pvp

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I am speaking, if you were to make the exact same thing

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Without anything from newer versions

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The same exact gamemode

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You telling me latest is more than 1.8?

brisk ravine
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and as someone who's been handling both 1.8 and 1.20.4 I say 1.8 was easier for a minigame server which didn't require additional changes

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yes

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it is

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lol

remote bay
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💀

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I am out

brisk ravine
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yeah go have fun with your iron golem which doesn't even move

remote bay
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Just to know, do yiu just configure things or code too?

brisk ravine
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code

brisk ravine
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in bw

remote bay
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Bw?

brisk ravine
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we had an issue where the Iron Golem wasn't moving bedwars and was just too op

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which broke the game balance

remote bay
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And now that is a latest version issue? Lol

brisk ravine
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yes?

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there's more

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but I'm giving you a sample

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something breaking the game balance is an issue.

remote bay
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Let me inform you, that is intended. When you build a whole gamemode focused on 1.8 mechanics don't expect to switch to latest and voila lol

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Iron golems can easily be nerfed

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Updates to minecraft are for single player users

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Not actual servers

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(Besides the technical stuff ofc)

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So, they balance it for those users, not for your specific use case

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Lol

brisk ravine
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another server I know had to completely nerf the iron golems to the point where they are terrible as they couldn't make them after much more nerfs etcetera balance out the game so igs are practically trash in their game atm

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skywars is fine on modern versions for example

remote bay
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So that sounds like skill issue

brisk ravine
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yeah but that took a lot of their time

remote bay
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Not really

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Lol

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If I recall correctly, issue was opened on GH about it, and a PR was made in less than 20mins

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Lol

brisk ravine
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20minutes is still 20minutes lol

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in those 20minutes I could've done something more productive

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same for the time I've been coding and sending a message here but yes

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having to explain is a well wasted time

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but you seem so focused on ""modern version is the solution for everything and old should just get burred"" or some sort which is incorrect thinking

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there's good stuff in moderns yes, but there's also good stuff in 1.8 for your specific needs and less time required for development

bright raptor
brisk ravine
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honestly

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only good modern version for your ac would be 1.21.3

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so i don't want to talk about that lmfao

remote bay
brisk ravine
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I never told you to not move forward tho 😩

remote bay
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just like spigot fan boys are a problem, by either still using spigot api and not using paper's features to their fullest, or by refusing to support minimessage (crime) for ex.

remote bay
brisk ravine
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do move forward, I also encourage, but just don't make a minigame on latest version which would end with MUCH MORE WORK for you

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they don't tell you to stop at 1.8

remote bay
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I think if people continue to "encourage" the use of 1.8, we will never move on as a community

brisk ravine
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rather survival at 1.8 sucks

remote bay
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some will

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others won't

remote bay
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something that took several lines of code now takes a few

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how is that not more productive?

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you get access to newer java features (this is assuming you are not using some random fork of 1.8)

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I don't disagree that there are benefits in 1.8

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some like the pvp more, others say it's because it's more performant

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which are valid reasons

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but the disadvantages outweight the advantages by a ton

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And giving you an example of Bedwars, the gamemode will die if no one innovates, and how do you expect to do that, with the limitations of 1.8?

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There's a reason hypixel is upgrading their backend... and they have spoken about updating to latest several times, and like I said, they already started with build battle games.

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it's a matter of time till everyone moves to newer versions, the question is how much will the 1.8 communities delay that migration

woeful tree
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Sometimes I wonder how applicable older versions would be if 1.8 combat wasn't changed.

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Imagine a world where ViaVersion doesn't need to exist. dogeHaHa

tulip finch
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Does anyone know to to fix: Inter Exception: Java.net.SocketException: Connection reset

stone dome
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Like newer versions are just literally faster lol

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I don’t think people understand that the codebase has changed so drastically, and more features doesn’t mean slower…

remote bay
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to a point that is true

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in some other cases, 1.8 is still faster because it has way less stuff

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depends on use case

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but yes, totally

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even that argument is starting to become irrelevant nowadays

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which proves my point even more

stone dome
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Mojang should just add a game mode so the “number one” reason for 1.8 pvp can be toggled to save the headache

ancient plank
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They never will

jade nexus
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^^^

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they would have to balance everything for 1.8 & 1.21 pvp and god forbid they go above the bare minimum

twilit grove
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@hexed pollen hi please can you dm me i need help with tebex

sharp bough
real cargo
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100% faster than here

mystic bronze
sharp bough
sage folio
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anyone know how to setup a server status placeholderapi ?

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while in game

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on deluxehub basically using the server selector

waxen phoenix
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sup

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any1 know where can I find a list of all permission (from Guilds plugin) commands for luckperms?
such as guilds.command.vault etc.

lethal fable
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can someone help me fix my server

sage folio
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whats going on clout

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wym fix it

sage folio
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anyone know how i can generate a flat The_end world

inland lodge
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Hello, is this community allowed for my team to request help for errors I have with plugins on my server?

young tusk
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yo anyone know how to remove green ping bars from tab (player list)

young tusk
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anyone know why my server says "compatible FML, modded server 0 mods present" next to server ping in multiplayer menu like where u join the server
instead of V - vanilla server its not a forge server its paper im so confused i dont remember that being there it changed outta no where

young tusk
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client?

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@bright raptor

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im on paper server

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the bungee is - waterfall

bright raptor
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When you look at the multiplayer menu, what did you start your game with

young tusk
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im started with minecraft launcher

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normal

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and using forge

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n optifine

bright raptor
young tusk
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ok but why do other servers say vanilla

bright raptor
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Got me there

vale parrot
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Does anyone know any Minecraft marketers they could recommend? Or at least someone who makes good videos for Minecraft servers for marketing purposes?

wet oasis
vale parrot
remote bay
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Bro is spamming this everywhere lol

ancient plank
serene lotus
ancient plank
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Oh

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My bad

young tusk
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anyone know how i can change to join message on my server to [ (username) is our 100th Player!!]

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im using essentials

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anyone know a placeholder?

ancient plank
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It’s commented in the actual config

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{UNIQUE} or something

willow jay
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Hey everyone, not sure if this is the correct channel for this but could someone tell me if they know anything how I could make animated chat colours like this? Is there a plugin for it or something? Please ping me if you reply! Thanks. Video: https://imgur.com/a/zQSpQiO

sharp bough
willow jay
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Ah difficult stuff for me then

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😭

sharp bough
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There was something on a site about purchasing a bundle of them

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Lemme see if I can find it

willow jay
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Alright

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Ping me if you find it

sharp bough
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Idk if I pinged tbh but @willow jay ^

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Probably other stuff like that too, but that was just an example

real cargo
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OKK do people not find it very tacky?

willow jay
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Not too much of it

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But like some animated chat colours are nice

real cargo
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eh probably cause i like minimalistic stuff :/

sharp bough
sharp bough
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XD

willow jay
real cargo
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😭 the chat is a mess

sharp bough
sharp bough
# real cargo 😭 the chat is a mess

Yeah but tbh, these days if you’re a “smaller” server. You need to appeal to people who have short formed styled attention spans. Like if they’re grinding super hard w/o seeing much progress, then they’re gonna be more inclined to leave. Big colors, and animations and stuff like that is always super simple and appealing.

peak aurora
ancient plank
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XD

sharp bough
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But for legal reasons (MUG) I don’t condone gambling

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XD

sharp bough
ancient plank
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😂

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Minecraft servers are just casinos for kids change my mind

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that sounds horrible

foggy nymph
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eh you could say this about everything in this way

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always appealing to the customer

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though some tricks are more manipulative than others

drifting thistle
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can anyone help me i cant break anything on my minecraft server (its not worldguard ect)

ancient plank
drifting thistle
void prairie
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Hello 😄
Im searching for something like where players can shift-Click other players to inspect levels and all kinda info.
I have been looking on google and stuff, but cant seem to find anything, does any1 knows something like that? ^^

timber nest
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Hey I have this error: could not connect to a default or fallback server

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With geyser

remote bay
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😉

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and probably provide more info than just that

timber nest
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I would if they would reply

remote bay
# timber nest I would if they would reply

Stop asking for help without providing any more information, you don't ask if anyone can help you, you provide information about the issue, what you tried, relevant files/logs and then people can help you straight away

drowsy sigil
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hello i am new here is there a specific channel for deluxemenus discussion?

jagged parcel
drowsy sigil
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thank you!

ancient plank
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Anyone know why a 32x32 texture comes up as a missing texture but 16x16 works

young tusk
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anyone know how i can remove all spawners in a existing world

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mob spawners

ancient plank
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But that’s not the whole world lol

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Not sure how you’d do a whole world, maybe a world gen plugin that can take blocks out during generating

young tusk
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would u happen to know one

ancient plank
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Nah, sorry about that

scarlet cloak
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yo

young tusk
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anyone know how i can flatten out land using world edit but not leave the edges hanging or looking so off / unnatural

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cus the block will just hang over different slopes

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and id have to go to each side and fix it block by block which would take days

west flame
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Whoa... Drama in hermitcraft? Iskall resigned (because of "credible allegations")? What happened there?

mystic bronze
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crazy

hexed roost
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Smooth command

sudden cradle
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Hey friends, probably silly question but on Modrinth when something is listed as "client and server" does that mean that either/or or both need to have it installed? Generally wondering if I can put it on my server and add it to my resource pack without the player needing to download it too. Thanks!

foggy nymph
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  1. it depends, but usually both need it.
  2. servers don't have resourcepacks
foggy nymph
dawn dew
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I need some testers for my server anyone interested

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@everyone I need testers anyone interested?

empty matrix
foggy nymph
mystic bronze
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@everyone lol

drifting thistle
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bro

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is anyone online

forest gazelle
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no

foggy nymph
oblique talon
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anyone now how to make gem steal smp

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@eveyone

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@here

plain dirge
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lmao

drifting thistle
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naw

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@uneven bison

real cargo
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jeez

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my ears

ancient plank
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Need some hosting recommendations, looking for locations in east US mainly (NY, Virginia, etc)

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Specs don't have to match, but this is what I have now (I believe) for $9/month, 9GB, I got it during a permanent special though so I don't believe I'll get specs like this for this price anywhere else

mystic bronze
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I do not believe you will find anything remotely close for this price

ancient plank
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The host is going through.. immense drama that I don't even want to be part of lol

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I'm considering Bloom and some other hosts, but Bloom is a little too pricey for me

empty matrix
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Instead of having a whole vps as a backup

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Orrr oracle 😎

woeful tree
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Or even PebbleHost maybe, they did a hardware upgrade recently.

ancient plank
ancient plank
woeful tree
ancient plank
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Public one isn’t too heavy on utilization and we barely get players atm, not much growth expected

empty matrix
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Maybe I'm misunderstanding your situation

woeful tree
ancient plank
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Just trying to get out of their drama/distrust

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ASAP

empty matrix
ancient plank
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I highly appreciate it too Mack Prayge

jade crest
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Hey, im looking for a new Host!

im currently hosting on UltraServers because they had resource splitting which they are removing soon, now im looking for a new, good host which offers resource splitting or has a good VPS so i can do my own stuff on it. i have a budget of around 15€ i want to spend per month.

Hosts i currently consider: Contabo VPS, Oracle free tier

mystic bronze
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Depends what you need it for. Oracle free tier is a great option, if you havent heard about it.

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There is also "Pay as you go" option, which means you only pay for how much extra you use of the free tier resources.

jade crest
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i want to host a survival server with ~60 plugins and ~10 concurent users and on the side small projects i have with my friends like minecraft modpacks

jade crest
empty matrix
empty matrix
jade crest
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imma check it out

mystic bronze
jade crest
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how do i know how much cpu cores and ram i can choose without getting charged on oracle free tier?

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in a yt video from ~1 year it says 4cpu and 24gb ram but i can go up to 32 cores and 200gb ram without a price showing up

mystic bronze
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its not a very beefy vps of course, after all its free
but tldr you get 4ocpus, 24gb ram and 200 gb of storage

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of course you can scale it up to your needs if you pay extra

jade crest
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i see, ty

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this may be good to have my side projects on 😄

mystic bronze
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Im running a simple webserver and some other misc stuff where I need 24/7 access on it

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and a couple of minecraft servers to play with friends

jade crest
mystic bronze
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well, maybe with a bunch of optimizations and low view distance

jade crest
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aight

mystic bronze
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we play with 20 chunks on vanilla and it does sometimes takes its sweet time to load new chunks

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but apart from that it's very playable

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me and my friend also played ATM9 to the sky modpack on it, basically had no issues whatsoever due to no need of loading much chunks

jade crest
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if i choose ubuntu as image it wants to charge me but it says always free-eligible

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seems to be a bug on oracle side

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😦 cant create one, all 3 Availability domains are out of capacity

empty matrix
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To avoid paying costs

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Ex use arm not amd cpus

empty matrix
rugged granite
empty matrix
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Oh

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Oh shoot

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I'll cross post it here ig

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@empty matrix
How to create a FREE Lifetime Oracle VPS
last updated: <t:1696980660:D>

Warning: Many people have got their VPS randomly terminated, so might want to make periodic backups!
I myself have not gotten mine terminated
Oracle does reclaim idle instances with an email warning:

Idle Always Free compute instances may be reclaimed by Oracle. Oracle will deem virtual machine and bare metal compute instances as idle if, during a 7-day period, the following are true:

CPU utilization for the 95th percentile is less than 10%
Network utilization is less than 10%
Memory utilization is less than 10% (applies to A1 shapes only)

Information on the resources that you get for free: https://docs.oracle.com/en-us/iaas/Content/FreeTier/freetier_topic-Always_Free_Resources.htm

Note: Use https://www.oracle.com/cloud/costestimator.html (Compute VM -> Load) to see how much it'll cost (Make sure to press Apply 200GB Free Tier Discount in Storage - Block Volumes)

  1. https://cloud.oracle.com Create an account - You will need a debit/credit card
  2. Go to Compute -> Instances (https://i.imgur.com/dwpCM7K.png)
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  1. Click "Change image" and switch it to Canonical Ubuntu (You should use 22.04 if possible as 20.04 is only supported until April 2025)
  2. Click "Select image" at the bottom
  3. Click "Change shape" and switch it to Ampere -> VM.Standard.A1.Flex (https://i.imgur.com/1AAiPP3.png)
    The default option (VM.Standard.E2.1.Micro) will also work. The differences are that it uses an AMD CPU (which tends to have better compatibility and general performance), but because of that (it's more expensive!), you can only have 2, and for each, you only get 1 CPU core, 1GB of memory, and the network bandwidth is limited to 480Mbps (megabits/second)
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With VM.Standard.A1.Flex (what is boxed in red), you have 4 OCPUs and 24GB memory total, you can switch in the future so for now you can max it out (to 4 OCPU and 24GB)
9. Click "Select shape" at the bottom
10. Make sure to either generate or if you already have an SSH key, upload your public key files in the "Add SSH keys" section
11. At the bottom where it says "Boot volume", the default is 46.6 GB, if you want more than this (limited to 200GB), press "Specify a custom boot volume size" but it must be at least 50GB. You cannot decrease the size, however you can increase it later. Because of this, I would highly recommend keeping the boot volume under (or at) 150GB, or else you'll have to terminate your instance to create any others
12. Press "Create." Note: you may get an "Out of Capacity" error due to there being no more available VPSes. I would recommend first switching Availability Domain (press "Edit" on the right of the "Placement" box at the top) and pressing "Create" a couple times (this has worked for me many times). If that still doesn't work, then you can automate this process using https://github.com/hitrov/oci-arm-host-capacity/
13. Wait for it to say "Running" (might have to refresh the page in a few minutes) and then where it says "Instance access", that's how you can connect to the VPS

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Lol

empty matrix
jade crest
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❤️

rugged granite
ancient plank
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Our hosts had a staff member's account token compromised

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Which allowed them to get access to an entire node and delete all the files on it

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They restored the files via backup, but they said the compromiser got in because the node was "was newly deployed and not fully set up and secured yet, and he then wiped everything" so yeah

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It's been about a week since they said they'd tell me why customers were put on an unfinished node, still haven't been told

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Since this compromise, a CEO has left and multiple staff have left, everyone is kind of abandoning ship but some people are still hanging on

mystic bronze
ancient plank
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Cuz what are they doing 😭

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The price I had was unbeatable though for the specs, no one can offer it 🥲

ancient plank
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They were pretty good and credible up til that point

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But I’ve heard stuff in the background claiming they were mehhhh

woeful tree
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I recognise the name from somewhere...

modest hatch
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hypixel... i wonder when it come out

languid ice
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50% off for black friday

ancient plank
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IMO

languid ice
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why not?

keen creek
ancient plank
languid ice
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thats not abt webdock?

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is it?

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im confused

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also like this is why u take backups lmao, its a risk no matter what host u use

ancient plank
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It’s not webdock no, it’s game hosting

languid ice
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So then why would i not go with them

ancient plank
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Well if you want to your stuff to be put on unsecure nodes go for it lol, they just don’t have good business practices from what I’ve saw

languid ice
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the unsecure node thing was a different host

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im confused

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all reading ive done has been minimal complaints

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and most are just people making the host a single point of failure

ancient plank
keen creek
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can someone help please

ancient plank
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Idek if we are talking about the same thing

languid ice
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i recommended web dock

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you said not to use em

ancient plank
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OH

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I thought

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Something else

languid ice
ancient plank
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Read totally wrong

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Sorry about that

languid ice
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allgood

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❤️

ancient plank
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I’ll definitely look into them as well

cinder badger
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Hello

shrewd sail
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Hello, I have a problem with the Deluxemenu 1.21 plugin

umbral lanceBOT
umbral lanceBOT
# shrewd sail https://pastebin.com/UB29bd0H
Detected Incomplete Paste:

I found DeluxeMenus v1.14.0-Release - plugin is disabled but no reason why it was disabled!
Please put your startup log found in /logs/latest.log into a new paste.

pale arrow
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@untold siren say, what do you need that bot for?

untold siren
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@solid roost is a scammer

drifting thistle
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guys can anyone help me? I have 2 BUngeecord proxys on external host and a hub at home but i cant connect them

wheat sinew
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Does anyone know why /place structure minecraft:end_city always result in "Failed to place structure" even tho I am in the correct biome in the_end?

mystic bronze
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no

timber nest
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I’m looking to pay $5 to someone who is experienced in Bungee Cord to fix it for me. (Maybe takes about 2 minutes to fix if you know how)

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Unless someone would just like to chat about how to fix it for free 👀

torpid bridge
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@hexed pollen excuse , can I DM you ?

umbral lanceBOT
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✨ Channel Cleaned!

• Removed 20 messages.

austere creek
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u rlly have nothing else to do

mystic bronze
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who deleting

austere creek
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piggy

mystic bronze
buoyant haven
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idek what that's all about

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keep ur shitty drama out of helpchat kthx

mystic bronze
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give me logs

buoyant haven
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I only want entertaining drama

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that stuff was just lame

austere creek
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i asked about deluxemenu fix and that guy started flaming me

mystic bronze
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didnt have the chance to read that garbonzo

buoyant haven
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ur not missing out on anything

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it was just embarrassing that's why I purged it

mystic bronze
austere creek
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ok still didnt get my fix to deluxemenu sadcatthumbsup

buoyant haven
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what's wrong with deluxemenus

mystic bronze
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bad plugin

buoyant haven
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rip

austere creek
languid ice
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oop apologies for ping

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thought i turned off

buoyant haven
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idc ahout pings

languid ice
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idk why discord doesnt let u set it off by default

buoyant haven
austere creek
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what else then sadcatthumbsup

buoyant haven
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but uh

austere creek
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im broke and no hope for another plugin tbh

buoyant haven
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give us ur config lets have a look

austere creek
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click_commands:
- '[player] kit player'
- '[close]'

buoyant haven
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no I mean I just haven't ran a server since 2017

austere creek
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this should give me the essentials kit right?

austere creek
scenic moon
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small small question

austere creek
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im outdated

mystic bronze
umbral lanceBOT
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FAQ Answer:

Use codeblocks for formatting code or configuration files:
```<language name>
<your code here>
```

For example:
```yaml
test:

  • “hi”
  • “there”
    ```

Produces:

test:
- “hi”
- “there”```
austere creek
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      click_commands:
        - '[player] kit player' 
        - '[close]'  
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how about this

mystic bronze
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what is it supposed to do

buoyant haven
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lemme try consult the dmenus wiki

austere creek
buoyant haven
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(have you tried doing what i'm about to do)

mystic bronze
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a kit called player?

austere creek
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could send u the whole yml if u need

austere creek
austere creek
buoyant haven
austere creek
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i tried for 3h to fix it nothing worked

buoyant haven
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here's a sample kits gui

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they use essentials:kit blah

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try that

austere creek
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let me open the server and see

mystic bronze
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yeah could be a namespace issue

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two commands with the same name

austere creek
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" that kit is improperly defined "

buoyant haven
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ok

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does it work if u type in /kit player

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manually

austere creek
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wanna vc or u busy?

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or anyone

buoyant haven
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type /essentials:kit player

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i'm not going into vc

austere creek
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" that kit is improperly defined

buoyant haven
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yeah cool

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ur essentials kit config is fucked then

#

essentials problem not deluxemenus problem

austere creek
#
kits:
  player:
    delay: 86400 # 1 day
    items:
      - stone_sword:1 name:&7Player_Sword lore:&aBasic_Gear enchant:sharpness:1,unbreaking:1
      - stone_pickaxe:1 name:&7Player_Pickaxe lore:&aMining_Tool enchant:efficiency:1
      - stone_axe:1 name:&7Player_Axe lore:&aWoodcutter_Tool enchant:unbreaking:1
      - cooked_beef:16
buoyant haven
#

did u make that by hand

austere creek
#

nuh uh

buoyant haven
#

last time I used essentials it had a command to make kits ingame

languid ice
#

does it support comments?

#

feels like an AI mistake

austere creek
buoyant haven
#

are people seriously using ai to make kit configs

austere creek
#

yes

buoyant haven
#

what the fuck

languid ice
#

lmaoo

austere creek
buoyant haven
#

actually bannable

languid ice
#

real?

umbral lanceBOT
#
🔨 The hammer has been swung.

@austere creek Banned!

austere creek
#

this bot slower then my life

buoyant haven
#

seriously don't even ask for help again

#

go ask your ai

austere creek
#

bruh

buoyant haven
#

lol

languid ice
#

Give chatgpt the essentials docs

#

let it hallucinate better

buoyant haven
#

essentials has a command to make kits ingame, surely it'd be faster to just give urself the items then use the kit create command then try explain to ai what u want

austere creek
#

sure

scenic moon
#

hi question

buoyant haven
#

oh god another one

scenic moon
#

no it's not that bad

austere creek
scenic moon
#

i hope at least

buoyant haven
#

i've nearly met the question quota for today

#

better be a good one

#

the last one probably took a year off my lifespan

scenic moon
#

in what situation would a server even think about consuming 34gb of ram with 20 minutes uptime

buoyant haven
#

oh

languid ice
#

uhh mem leak

buoyant haven
#

yes

languid ice
#

ha u still have ur quota piglet get rekt

buoyant haven
#

wew

languid ice
#

also why ru giving the server that much to begin with

scenic moon
#

i restarted it and that ram just racks itself up during initialization, guessing it's got something to do with a plugin?

austere creek
buoyant haven
#

drop ur plugin list

languid ice
#

yea do a binary search with the plugins

#

see which one causes leak

scenic moon
languid ice
#

and allocate less ram so the crash happens sooner

scenic moon
#
[09:09:34 INFO]: Server Plugins (15):
[09:09:34 INFO]: Bukkit Plugins:
[09:09:34 INFO]:  - BetterMsgPlus, BlueMap, Chunky, CoreProtect, floodgate, Geyser-Spigot, GSit, InvSeePlusPlus, LuckPerms, Multiverse-Core
[09:09:34 INFO]:  SkinsRestorer, ViaBackwards, ViaRewind, ViaVersion, WorldEdit```
buoyant haven
#

chunky

languid ice
buoyant haven
#

that pregenerates chunks?

languid ice
#

GC is gonna kill u

scenic moon
buoyant haven
#

that's ur issue

#

probably

languid ice
#

oh yeah make sure chunky isnt keeping chunks loaded after

#

best recc would be to pregen with only chunky

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then add other plugins after

scenic moon
#

i'll get chunky off

scenic moon
languid ice
#

bestie its ur server

scenic moon
#

using -Xms128M -Xmx64G does sound a little overkill now that i'm looking back to it

languid ice
#

you ordered the sandwich

scenic moon
#

chunky off, restarting

languid ice
#

Read this too

#

just in case

buoyant haven
#

aren't there new flags now

languid ice
#

there better not be

#

im gonna fight john paper, inventor of papermc

austere creek
#

hey guys chat gpt cooked he created me new kits

#

👀

languid ice
buoyant haven
#

ppl made new flags a while ago for zgc and shenandoah but idk if they're recommended over aikar's og g1 flags

austere creek
languid ice
#

good for u go brag to chatgpt abt it

austere creek
#

i only had to add permission: essentials.kits.ultra in kits.yml

scenic moon
#

thanks, no clue whether it was actually chunky or not but i'm down to 5 gigs

austere creek
languid ice
#

ask chatgpt about preallocation

austere creek
#

fr

wise latch
upbeat pollen
#

sick

#

ive from south more but sick to find another west aussie

random junco
#

How does one setup for java dev in vscode, I refuse to use a proper IDE

#

tryna get 2 things:

  1. Hot reload plugins
  2. Build and copy shortcuts
#

if I figure those out my life is complete

remote bay
#

and why don't you want a proper IDE?

#

lol

random junco
#

I have 3gb of storage left 😭

#

im so cooked bruh

remote bay
#

then delete stuff?

random junco
#

literally cant atm, and need to work on a plugin

remote bay
#

pretty sure at least 20% of that storage is useless stuff

random junco
#

gna clear like 150gb after its done

#

in like 3 weeks

remote bay
#

trash can surely has a few GBs

random junco
remote bay
#

and downloads fodler

random junco
#

cleared temp

#

downloads

#

documents

#

update files

#

😭 im so cooked

#

anyway, back to question

#

vscode java dev!

#

I just want an ftp action

#

got my vps with the mc server, can auto upload and stuff

#

imma just keep struggling thru it with cli and drag and drop for now 💀

#

most of the workflow is there IDK how to get autoupload and stuff working 😭

mystic bronze
remote bay
random junco
remote bay
#

your system

#

total storage

random junco
#

oh, 256gb

mystic bronze
remote bay
#

you only need around 12gb for intellij

random junco
#

i normally back stuff up to my NAS but I can't do the data analysis etc from storage

remote bay
#

so, 9gb more

random junco
remote bay
#

cannot and will not are 2 different things

random junco
#

imma just ignore you if you aint gonna help with the solution, ty for the suggestion

mystic bronze
#

wtf

random junco
#

byebye

#

have a nice day

remote bay
#

lmao

random junco
#

gonna go figure out my jank on my own

remote bay
#

just a troll

random junco
#

😭

random junco
#

ayt now we getting disrespectful huh, ffs

remote bay
#

you acting like a troll lol

mystic bronze
#

@serene lotus exempt SteamCleaner from blacklist 💀

random junco
#

literally came here with a weirdly specific problem and getting called a troll 😔

#

like bruh

#

is every non generic problem a troll?

#

anyway byebye

remote bay
#

we give you solutions and you keep insisting and ignoring them

#

lol

random junco
#

just gna get to work making this jank work

remote bay
#

in my book, that's a troll

random junco
#

??

mystic bronze
#

there is always a way to clean your pc, vscode is just bad for java dev

random junco
#

I don't understnad

random junco
remote bay
remote bay
random junco
#

kewl, imma just install intellij in 3 weeks when my storage clears up

remote bay
#

you just don't want to. Why? You are focused that your solution of using vscode is the right one

random junco
#

this was no help, and I get belittled?

#

amazing

remote bay
#

no one is belittling you, if anything, you are.

#

We gave you solutions, you refuse them.

#

There is not much else we can do

random junco
#

thank you for your time

mystic bronze
#

thing is, there are probably like 2 people that uses vsc for java dev here

#

and we cant help you here lol

random junco
remote bay
#

exactly lol

remote bay
random junco
#

^^ me and the voices in my head

mystic bronze
#

anyways, BleachBit, CCleaner, Everything and SteamCleaner (on github), by using these you should be able to make more than enough space for IJ

mystic bronze
#

also if these are coding projects you should be able to delete cache/build files, the space adds up quickly

languid ice
#

wait what do yall use for editing?

remote bay
languid ice
#

code

remote bay
#

depends on language

random junco
#

VSC, im such a webdev 😔

remote bay
#

java/kotlin, I use Intellij

#

Web stuff I use WebStorm

languid ice
#

god i should probably start using intellij

remote bay
#

what are you using?

#

lol

#

Don't say eclipse

#

lol

random junco
#

please for the love of god dont say sublime

languid ice
#

dw i switched off sublime a few months ago

remote bay
#

sublime got discontinued and is not even a code editor

random junco
#

😭 nahhh

languid ice
#

usually just like vim

random junco
#

its not even an editor

#

and yet 100s of people used it to edit code

#

😭

remote bay
#

it is an editor

#

just not a code editor

languid ice
#

i mean if it edits text you can write code in it

remote bay
#

yes but the diff. between an editor and an IDE is huge lol

#

Just like VSC vs WebStorm

#

WebStorm kinda destroys vscode

#

lol

languid ice
#

ive got nvim set up with jdtls and its served me well

remote bay
#

IDEs can't be compared to code editors

languid ice
#

whats like the overall benefit

remote bay
#

of IDEs?

languid ice
#

yea

random junco
#

its in the name

#

integrated development environment

#

all the tools you'd find useful are right there

woeful tree
#

Just purchase some storage, simple.

random junco
#

code editors like vsc are just notepad but reskinned

random junco
#

thank you

languid ice
#

i can also find those by just closing the editor and going to the terminal

#

no?

#

or are there like specialized tools

random junco
languid ice
#

i will

#

thx

remote bay
#

code completion, refactoring tools, better shortcuts from my experience, error highlighting, powerful debuggers, static/code analysis, version control integration, builtin build tools support like gradle, unit testing support, just like vsc you have plugins for extra customization, profiling, and a bunch more stuff

#

overall better experience

hexed roost
#

Zamn

languid ice
#

i mean ive got all those but code completion and im not a big fan of ML for code

remote bay
languid ice
#
Intelligent code completion

IntelliJ IDEA provides context-sensitive code completion, offering you suggestions that are only valid for the current caret position. You don’t need to use any shortcuts or configure additional settings; code completion will start as soon as you begin typing your code in the editor.

IntelliJ IDEA uses machine learning to ensure the most relevant suggestion is at the top of the list.```
#

thats what it is

remote bay
#

although copilot is integrated in Intellij nowadays

languid ice
#

and the more simple stuff ive got

#

i see why itd be for some people, just not for me

remote bay
#

I am speaking about the normal "tab" completion

languid ice
#

ohh

languid ice
remote bay
#

it is way more powerful than any other place lol

#

so yes, it uses ML but it's not like you might think

#

it doesn't write code for you

languid ice
#

i know

remote bay
#

from the list of all methods available, it uses ML to make sure the most relevant are at the top

languid ice
#

i just again, dont like it

remote bay
#

so it's easier

languid ice
#

personal preference

remote bay
#

why?

#

there must be a reason

#

lol

languid ice
#

idk how they trained it, idk what biases it has, i dont know if theyre using my code for training

#

i wouldnt want to join a club that allows me as a member

remote bay
#

yeah you are still misunderstanding it

#

lol

languid ice
#

im not?

#

like

#

i understand its not an LLM

remote bay
#

Intelligent code completion is NOT copilot

#

lol

languid ice
#

im aware...

#

either way i trust my skills more without crutches

#

even if the crutches make it a lot easier

mystic bronze
#

why is bro comparing a text editor with IDE

misty root
#

its less like crutches and more like using a knife instead of trying to use your hands for cutting lmao

#

i get the argument for not using llms and people that are used to vim usually need their shortcuts but both are available in a proper ide

languid ice
#

true but i have no idea where ill be developing. i might need to ssh into a server, or use some random work computer

#

i get why using an ide is good, im just saying it doesnt fit my usecase. i didnt know why in specific they were using one which is why i asked lol

mystic bronze
#

if it's a proper "work computer" meant for development, it should at least have a dedicated IDE

#

vscode at minimum imo

languid ice
#

It is, ive always meant to tbf

#

ive just never needed one

#

idk

mystic bronze
#

but if you're coding in ssh.. then it's another problem

languid ice
#

ehh sometimes i need to remote into a server to update a config or a backend

#

and so i just make the changes and commit there

mystic bronze
#

for configs, sure

#

for code.. depends how much

languid ice
#

oh like 1 file changes

remote bay
#

aren't there plugins for that too anyways?

#

doesn't jetbrains have workspaces or whatever it's called for remote coding

languid ice
#

im sure ive just lived in the terminal for the past decade

#

comfy

remote bay
#

ah wait

languid ice
#

a remote machine running a JetBrains IDE backend so id need to install stuff onto the server

#

:/

remote bay
#

and you can also connect to a remote ssh server lol

#

can use either ssh or jetbrains space

languid ice
#

again i get the appeal, i see why people would use it. but its just more work for me to learn a whole new toolkit

#

im not good enough to where im being skill capped by my tooling

#

why change it

remote bay
#

no one is saying you should

languid ice
#

ur sure selling it hard for someone whos apathetic

remote bay
#

I am just stating, if needing a remote connection is your problem, then it does cover it

#

lol

languid ice
#

it doesnt have things like telescope, tmux, harpoon, grep, sed, awk

#

and if im adding features to it doesnt that ruin the point?

remote bay
#

lol

languid ice
#

like im just trying to understand this, im not tryna argue.

remote bay
#

me neither

#

lol

#

I am just correcting your statement

#

"it doesn't have things like ...."

mystic bronze
languid ice
#

ok but then like why not just stay in the terminal

remote bay
#

was about to go into that

#

if you SOMEHOW

#

need something the IDE doesn't provide

#

just open up the terminal

#

it's like, 1 click

#

xD

languid ice
#

Like i used to use ides, i just found 95% of my time was either editing text or using terminal

remote bay
#

Alt+F12 if you wanna be fancy

languid ice
#

it wasnt worth 20gb and a decvent amount of cpu and ram for a fancier terminal

remote bay
#

I personally am curious on how you used the terminal so much

#

for web stuff I can SOMEWHAT see that happening

#

but for stuff like java, very unlikely

#

xd

mystic bronze
#

unless you have intellisense, code completion, syntax highlighting, error highlighting in the terminal, I can say for sure that coding in the terminal is way more prone to bugs

languid ice
#

compiling, moving files, renaming, finding specific functions, etc

languid ice
remote bay
mystic bronze
#

debugging is a whole different thing

remote bay
languid ice
#

./gradlew build

remote bay
#

lol

languid ice
#

idk i just like my workflow, i can code well, and im paid for it

remote bay
#

you can execute gradle tasks with 1 click too xD

mystic bronze
#

if you count creating bugs by writing poor code and then having to re-write the code again to fix the bug then I guess you can call it debugging

remote bay
#

soo, not something only doable in the terminal

languid ice
#

i havent used a mouse in a while tbh

remote bay
#

lol

remote bay
#

Shift+F10 runs the task

#

lol

languid ice
#

im not gonna learn 100 new keybinds

remote bay
#

if that's your concern

mystic bronze
#

here are your 100 shortcuts keybinds

remote bay
remote bay
languid ice
#

like yea sure starting out an ide was great but it became more annoying

remote bay
mystic bronze
remote bay
#

lmao fr

#

it might be easy on small projects

#

but gl managing big projects in vim

languid ice
#

thx its gone well

mystic bronze
#

imagine running a whole microservice ecosystem on vim

remote bay
#

LMAO

languid ice
#

done it

mystic bronze
#

sure it's doable

languid ice
#

works fine

mystic bronze
#

but why

remote bay
#

just because it's doable doesn't mean you should do it

#

lol

#

or well

#

it's worth doing it

languid ice
#

yall seem to be very hateful for people who dont care if i use a ide or not

#

i like my setup it works fine

#

i get why others use it

#

but im good

remote bay
#

IDEs are there to simplify things and increase productivity, not to write code for you

languid ice
#

im not saying yall should use terminal

mystic bronze
#

I see the appeal of only working in terminal in cases where you literally are prohibited of installing any software on the computer, but even then it's rare imo

languid ice
#

its just habit

remote bay
languid ice
#

same way i dont use windows. im sure if i started out on windows id still be there, but i didnt so im not

languid ice
#

thats why

remote bay
#

an actual reason besides "Because I said so"

languid ice
#

why do you need more than that

#

why does the way i live my life impact you

remote bay
#

preferences and opinions are usually based on facts

mystic bronze
#

well my habit was using vscode for, well, literally everything - JS, Java, C#, etc.
didnt mean it was a good habit, only had to try out IJ for a couple days and noticed a big difference in development experience and performance

languid ice
#

i like sausage on pizza because it tastes good

#

is that a fact?

#

no

remote bay
languid ice
remote bay
#

it's not everyday you see someone preferring vim over an IDE

languid ice
#

the fact is vim has decades of work done on it to work well

#

ive seen people writing rust via nano

#

theres a someone for any case

mystic bronze
#

seen - sure, is it a good thing to do? debatable

remote bay
#

Again, just because you can, that doesn't mean it's the best idea

languid ice
#

yea sure. but they liked it and they wrote some of the best code ive seen

#

its the best idea for them

remote bay
#

what do you define as "best code"

#

I actually genuinely don't understand that statement

#

lmao

languid ice
#

works amazingly, well optimized, handles edge cases from start

#

polished from the get go

mystic bronze
#

yeah well, that's like, idk, most of codebases for experienced devs

languid ice
#

this was a starting base made by them

#

not devs

#

dev

#

the way you edit code doesnt really matter

remote bay
#
fun sayHi(name: String) {
  println("Hi $name")
}

This method also works amazingly, well optimized, handles all edge cases and is polished

languid ice
#

ok but like, im talking a codebase.

#

i wanna say it was a couple mb worth of raw text

#

not like build artifacts just the src

remote bay
#

there are several code bases that are all those, I don't think you can give a codebase a title/category that easily

#

the same code base would be more optimized if written in machine code for ex.

#

is it doable? yes.

#

Should it be done? No

languid ice
#

bros made cause he couldnt code without an ide lol

#

it doesnt matter what u use

remote bay
mystic bronze
#

idk kotlin

languid ice
#

im done with this discussion tho its clear u want to be right rather than correct and are approaching it from that position

#

have a nice day bucko

remote bay
#

you had to either assert it's not null

#

or idk

languid ice
#

my preference is i like to be mobile and want my setup to mirror that

mystic bronze
#

well, I guess it depends how often do you really need to be "mobile"

remote bay
# languid ice have a nice day bucko

using words like "bucko" or like previously "kiddo" don't take you far, and if your idea is to make you look like the correct one, let me tell you, that's not it

#

lol

mystic bronze
#

for me personally I have either my work laptop with all the required software or I code on my PC

languid ice
remote bay
languid ice
#

so being able to rebuild in like 10 minutes is a nice plus

languid ice
mystic bronze
#

also do you just code over ssh via terminal or/and on your local machine?

remote bay
languid ice
#

typically i code over ssh, ocassionally ill mount the remote file system depending on the task

remote bay
#

I am not here insulting anyone, you are

mystic bronze
#

well if you ever get into a real job at some corporate office don't expect to be able to ssh into any server to code on there lol

languid ice
#

ohh yea no absolutely i meant for like time critical jobs

#

for typical work i clone

#

and i do have a real job

mystic bronze
#

well in that case, where you code locally, is even weirder not to have a proper IDE, but that's just my two cents

languid ice
#

yea no i get that

#

its not for everyone

#

the one other dev here codes on windows using like vscode

#

and we're writing stuff in go lol

#

no webdev

#

ive considered getting an ide for sql db visualization but thats def a crutch

remote bay
#

go? okay that explains a tiny bit

#

go community has a somewhat decent amount of vim users

#

ofc vscode and goland are still more used

#

but compared to java for ex. that's a big diff

mystic bronze
languid ice
#

some tooling

#

but nah thats like way too handicapping for me

#

ive gotta get good at sql eventually

#

granted most devs say that

mystic bronze
#

it's not that most devs say that, it's kind of a requirement imo

remote bay
#

sql is a must know nowadays tbf

#

yeah

languid ice
#

i didnt mean sql in specific

#

apologies modii

remote bay
#

relational dbs are everywhere

mystic bronze
#

unless you don't work with and save like any data at all

languid ice
#

i meant moreso most devs have some tooling theyve meant to learn

remote bay
#

although nosql dbs have been getting some share of it

#

but still diff. use cases

languid ice
#

like im good enough at sql to work on an inventory management system for my job

#

but beyond that ehh

misty root
languid ice
#

im not even diehard it just fits my usecase

wooden iris
#

does anyone know a plugin that works for 1.8 spigot where you can change the fishing loot table with a weight system and add custom items. Using a GUI in game?

#

if there's not one I will pay someone to make one if you give me a quote

low bolt
#

w

pale arrow
#

@hexed roost i've sent you a dm

left lynx
#

my ears :( i was litsening to music at max volume

#

why is it not stopping ToT

honest mural
#

why

#

@proper berry

#

now my family awake yeah im coked

languid ice
#

they post it every few days

pale arrow
#

damn you

#

that should be punishable wtf

pale arrow
#

Hey @molten crag what kind of icons are you looking for?

molten crag
#

I am looking for something like a mix of realistic and cartoon that's 2d. I may have just found someone else. I'll DM you if it doesn't work out.

pale arrow
#

Yeah no worries, i was asking if you meant graphic or pixel style, but no worries if you found someone already

#

Yeah no worries, i was asking if you meant graphic or pixel style, but no worries if you found someone already

molten crag
#

Oh, aha.

languid ice
#

browhy do u keep posting that

#

its annoying

pale arrow
#

FUCK

#

i didn't read the name

#

can someone geniunely just ban this dude he's done nothing but post the same "video" multiple times, i mean, i only got tricked twice but i wonder how many people fell for it already

proper berry
#

dont angry friends

pale arrow
languid ice
#

dw abt it

pale arrow
languid ice
#

mfer i dont have perms just like

#

be smarter with webms

#

or block

pale arrow
#

and it's less about me specifically just overall not being pleasant for other users that get tricked for it, no reason keeping someone like that on the server

shadow parcel
#

@proper berry this is a warning next time it gets posted it will be a mute.

languid ice
shadow parcel
languid ice
#

yea im aware :3

#

ty

pale arrow
languid ice
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they had just deleted messages so i was letting u know idk ur audit system

pale arrow
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like taking a playstation from a kid who doesn't even have electricity

brisk ravine
willow jay
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Hey everyone, just wondering if anyone has ever had the issue with the essentialsx plugin where you do /playtime or /playtime (username) and it just says “Now” and not their actual playtime.

jade crest
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ubuntu or debian for a minecraft server?

uneven locust
woeful tree
mystic bronze
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but, well, I suppose Ubuntu is a bit "easier".

pine bolt
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hi guys

mystic bronze
woeful tree
mystic bronze
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either way (iirc) ubuntu is based on debian

woeful tree
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Correct.

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Ubuntu just has a bunch of other packages installed, etc that makes installing other apps easier.

mystic bronze
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though personally, for (possibly) less bloatware, I'd recommend Debian

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to my knowledge the main debian repo is also bigger

woeful tree
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Given they are asking Debian or Ubuntu, thus unaware of the key differences, Ubuntu is more appropriate for them

mystic bronze
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could be old news tho

thin orbit
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Ubuntu adds a bunch of bullshit on top, especially like snaps which are just horrible and kill your performance

mystic bronze
tropic aspen
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Can a mod or someone help? every time I break a block and the same one like 1 block away the items both go to the same spot in normal minecraft it doesn't someone help

fickle pewter