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God why am I even arguing with a brainwashed 1.8 user
I forget y'all are all the same
Bye
imagine I explain everything and he things I'm arguing 😩
You, the 1.8 users and spigot fan boys are the problem in the community
Didn't say so
this is the most offensive thing I've ever heard in my life
I'm not entirely a 1.8 player but alr
Using 1.8 and woreshipping it is also offensive lol
But whatever
I just think of profits against the work that I'd have to put
You speak of work but legit have not stated a single instance where latest is more work
Compared to 1.8
Lol
I have developed plugins for both and I can literally say latest was way faster and easier to work with
I've been giving instances of where the work would end up more even in regards of OldCombatMechanics
ok good for you
OldCombatMechanics is an attempt to bring back old pvp
I am speaking, if you were to make the exact same thing
Without anything from newer versions
The same exact gamemode
You telling me latest is more than 1.8?
and as someone who's been handling both 1.8 and 1.20.4 I say 1.8 was easier for a minigame server which didn't require additional changes
yes
it is
lol
yeah go have fun with your iron golem which doesn't even move
Just to know, do yiu just configure things or code too?
code
?
What
???
in bw
Bw?
we had an issue where the Iron Golem wasn't moving bedwars and was just too op
which broke the game balance
And now that is a latest version issue? Lol
yes?
there's more
but I'm giving you a sample
something breaking the game balance is an issue.
Let me inform you, that is intended. When you build a whole gamemode focused on 1.8 mechanics don't expect to switch to latest and voila lol
Iron golems can easily be nerfed
Updates to minecraft are for single player users
Not actual servers
(Besides the technical stuff ofc)
So, they balance it for those users, not for your specific use case
Lol
another server I know had to completely nerf the iron golems to the point where they are terrible as they couldn't make them after much more nerfs etcetera balance out the game so igs are practically trash in their game atm
skywars is fine on modern versions for example
I have seen servers replicate the exact iron golem mechanics from 1.8 in latest lol
So that sounds like skill issue
yeah but that took a lot of their time
Not really
Lol
If I recall correctly, issue was opened on GH about it, and a PR was made in less than 20mins
Lol
20minutes is still 20minutes lol
in those 20minutes I could've done something more productive
same for the time I've been coding and sending a message here but yes
having to explain is a well wasted time
but you seem so focused on ""modern version is the solution for everything and old should just get burred"" or some sort which is incorrect thinking
there's good stuff in moderns yes, but there's also good stuff in 1.8 for your specific needs and less time required for development
Could've had a futile conversation about using shitty versions for example
honestly
only good modern version for your ac would be 1.21.3
so i don't want to talk about that lmfao
yesno, I am a strong believer that you should move forwards, not backwards, and 100% not stay behind, specially in a 9 year old version
I never told you to not move forward tho 😩
just like spigot fan boys are a problem, by either still using spigot api and not using paper's features to their fullest, or by refusing to support minimessage (crime) for ex.
not speaking about myself, speaking about the ocmmunity in general
do move forward, I also encourage, but just don't make a minigame on latest version which would end with MUCH MORE WORK for you
they don't tell you to stop at 1.8
I think if people continue to "encourage" the use of 1.8, we will never move on as a community
rather survival at 1.8 sucks
as said, I have noticed the opposite in terms of work, newer versions provide with way better ways of coding things, nowadays things that would need using nms or nbt, can easily be achieved via the normal api
something that took several lines of code now takes a few
how is that not more productive?
you get access to newer java features (this is assuming you are not using some random fork of 1.8)
I don't disagree that there are benefits in 1.8
some like the pvp more, others say it's because it's more performant
which are valid reasons
but the disadvantages outweight the advantages by a ton
And giving you an example of Bedwars, the gamemode will die if no one innovates, and how do you expect to do that, with the limitations of 1.8?
There's a reason hypixel is upgrading their backend... and they have spoken about updating to latest several times, and like I said, they already started with build battle games.
it's a matter of time till everyone moves to newer versions, the question is how much will the 1.8 communities delay that migration
Sometimes I wonder how applicable older versions would be if 1.8 combat wasn't changed.
Imagine a world where ViaVersion doesn't need to exist. 
Does anyone know to to fix: Inter Exception: Java.net.SocketException: Connection reset
and geyser
The thing is the more performant claim is just cap
Like newer versions are just literally faster lol
I don’t think people understand that the codebase has changed so drastically, and more features doesn’t mean slower…
yesish
to a point that is true
in some other cases, 1.8 is still faster because it has way less stuff
depends on use case
but yes, totally
even that argument is starting to become irrelevant nowadays
which proves my point even more
Mojang should just add a game mode so the “number one” reason for 1.8 pvp can be toggled to save the headache
They never will
^^^
they would have to balance everything for 1.8 & 1.21 pvp and god forbid they go above the bare minimum
@hexed pollen hi please can you dm me i need help with tebex
If you need help why don’t you like, make a ticket with them?
they have live support even 😭
100% faster than here
because this is helpchat

anyone know how to setup a server status placeholderapi ?
while in game
on deluxehub basically using the server selector
sup
any1 know where can I find a list of all permission (from Guilds plugin) commands for luckperms?
such as guilds.command.vault etc.
can someone help me fix my server
anyone know how i can generate a flat The_end world
Hello, is this community allowed for my team to request help for errors I have with plugins on my server?
yo anyone know how to remove green ping bars from tab (player list)
anyone know why my server says "compatible FML, modded server 0 mods present" next to server ping in multiplayer menu like where u join the server
instead of V - vanilla server its not a forge server its paper im so confused i dont remember that being there it changed outta no where
What's the client running?
When you look at the multiplayer menu, what did you start your game with
That's why then
ok but why do other servers say vanilla
Got me there
Does anyone know any Minecraft marketers they could recommend? Or at least someone who makes good videos for Minecraft servers for marketing purposes?
Appreciate it. Will take a look.
Bro is spamming this everywhere lol
Spamming wut
Was cleaned up 🧹
anyone know how i can change to join message on my server to [ (username) is our 100th Player!!]
im using essentials
anyone know a placeholder?
Essentials has it built in
It’s commented in the actual config
{UNIQUE} or something
Hey everyone, not sure if this is the correct channel for this but could someone tell me if they know anything how I could make animated chat colours like this? Is there a plugin for it or something? Please ping me if you reply! Thanks. Video: https://imgur.com/a/zQSpQiO
Iirc it’s done with resource packs and doing some cool stuff with shaders
There was something on a site about purchasing a bundle of them
Lemme see if I can find it
I don’t personally use this so, not fully sure how it works, but this is what I was referencing:
Idk if I pinged tbh but @willow jay ^
Probably other stuff like that too, but that was just an example
do people not find it very tacky?
I like it tbf
Not too much of it
But like some animated chat colours are nice
eh probably cause i like minimalistic stuff :/
Todo something like that, it’d just be modifying the rainbow one.
Ty for showing me it
😭 the chat is a mess
Ofc
Yeah but tbh, these days if you’re a “smaller” server. You need to appeal to people who have short formed styled attention spans. Like if they’re grinding super hard w/o seeing much progress, then they’re gonna be more inclined to leave. Big colors, and animations and stuff like that is always super simple and appealing.


Sounds like a casino when you put it that way
XD
I mean tbh, whatever appeals to that kind of audience
But for legal reasons (MUG) I don’t condone gambling
XD
Tbh I see it now
😂
Minecraft servers are just casinos for kids change my mind
that sounds horrible
eh you could say this about everything in this way
always appealing to the customer
though some tricks are more manipulative than others
can anyone help me i cant break anything on my minecraft server (its not worldguard ect)
Any messages in chat when you try to break something?
Nah i fixed it already
i hate it
Hello 😄
Im searching for something like where players can shift-Click other players to inspect levels and all kinda info.
I have been looking on google and stuff, but cant seem to find anything, does any1 knows something like that? ^^
Hey I have this error: could not connect to a default or fallback server
With geyser
ask in their support server
😉
and probably provide more info than just that
I would if they would reply
Stop asking for help without providing any more information, you don't ask if anyone can help you, you provide information about the issue, what you tried, relevant files/logs and then people can help you straight away
hello i am new here is there a specific channel for deluxemenus discussion?
thank you!
Anyone know why a 32x32 texture comes up as a missing texture but 16x16 works
Could use world edits //replacenear
But that’s not the whole world lol
Not sure how you’d do a whole world, maybe a world gen plugin that can take blocks out during generating
would u happen to know one
Nah, sorry about that
yo
anyone know how i can flatten out land using world edit but not leave the edges hanging or looking so off / unnatural
cus the block will just hang over different slopes
and id have to go to each side and fix it block by block which would take days
Whoa... Drama in hermitcraft? Iskall resigned (because of "credible allegations")? What happened there?
crazy
Smoothen the sides
Smooth command
Hey friends, probably silly question but on Modrinth when something is listed as "client and server" does that mean that either/or or both need to have it installed? Generally wondering if I can put it on my server and add it to my resource pack without the player needing to download it too. Thanks!
- it depends, but usually both need it.
- servers don't have resourcepacks
lots of optimization mods are "either" while content mods are usually both, though sometimes client side is optional.
I need some testers for my server anyone interested
@everyone I need testers anyone interested?
could try to ask in #1301843211676942397 but remember that the majority of people here are server owners just like you
bro tried to ping everyone
@everyone lol
no
you should ping everyone I think
lmao
Need some hosting recommendations, looking for locations in east US mainly (NY, Virginia, etc)
Specs don't have to match, but this is what I have now (I believe) for $9/month, 9GB, I got it during a permanent special though so I don't believe I'll get specs like this for this price anywhere else
I do not believe you will find anything remotely close for this price
Yeah I figured that, I'm fine with worse specs, very worse specs even, just need to keep my stuff safe
The host is going through.. immense drama that I don't even want to be part of lol
I'm considering Bloom and some other hosts, but Bloom is a little too pricey for me
You can just use like a cloud backup then
Instead of having a whole vps as a backup
Orrr oracle 😎
Checkout SparkedHost or Revivenode.
Or even PebbleHost maybe, they did a hardware upgrade recently.
VPS would be much more money lol
I was thinking this. The hardware upgrade actually seems pretty worth it considering I’ve used them before and had good experiences
Are you like hosting a public server or is it more development?
Both, one’s public one’s development
Public one isn’t too heavy on utilization and we barely get players atm, not much growth expected
That's my point
Maybe I'm misunderstanding your situation
Hmm... I have a Ryzen 5950x dedi that I'm happy to sell a portion of. Only catch, it's in Germany. 
Sorry, basically I just have game hosting and the hosting company is having a ton of drama
Just trying to get out of their drama/distrust
ASAP
Ohh ok
I’ll consider it! Location isn’t a deal ender to me, just preferred
I highly appreciate it too Mack 
Hey, im looking for a new Host!
im currently hosting on UltraServers because they had resource splitting which they are removing soon, now im looking for a new, good host which offers resource splitting or has a good VPS so i can do my own stuff on it. i have a budget of around 15€ i want to spend per month.
Hosts i currently consider: Contabo VPS, Oracle free tier
Depends what you need it for. Oracle free tier is a great option, if you havent heard about it.
There is also "Pay as you go" option, which means you only pay for how much extra you use of the free tier resources.
i want to host a survival server with ~60 plugins and ~10 concurent users and on the side small projects i have with my friends like minecraft modpacks
isnt this only for a month free?
Obviouslee are you also using this host lol
It's forever if you use the right resources
imma check it out
iirc you get extra credits to spend for the first month if you are a new user, but yeah, as dkim said, its "Always free resources", basically forever
how do i know how much cpu cores and ram i can choose without getting charged on oracle free tier?
in a yt video from ~1 year it says 4cpu and 24gb ram but i can go up to 32 cores and 200gb ram without a price showing up
its not a very beefy vps of course, after all its free
but tldr you get 4ocpus, 24gb ram and 200 gb of storage
of course you can scale it up to your needs if you pay extra
Im running a simple webserver and some other misc stuff where I need 24/7 access on it
and a couple of minecraft servers to play with friends
do you think it would be able to handle a minecraft survival server with 60+ plugins, always on the newest version, around 10 concurrent players or would it be a waste of time to see if this works
well, maybe with a bunch of optimizations and low view distance
aight
we play with 20 chunks on vanilla and it does sometimes takes its sweet time to load new chunks
but apart from that it's very playable
me and my friend also played ATM9 to the sky modpack on it, basically had no issues whatsoever due to no need of loading much chunks
if i choose ubuntu as image it wants to charge me but it says always free-eligible
seems to be a bug on oracle side
😦 cant create one, all 3 Availability domains are out of capacity
Might be outdated but please read #dev-general message
To avoid paying costs
Ex use arm not amd cpus
And it also addresses this issue
#1301843213199343686 kids
no access
Oh
Oh shoot
I'll cross post it here ig
@empty matrix
How to create a FREE Lifetime Oracle VPS
last updated: <t:1696980660:D>
Warning: Many people have got their VPS randomly terminated, so might want to make periodic backups!
I myself have not gotten mine terminated
Oracle does reclaim idle instances with an email warning:
Idle Always Free compute instances may be reclaimed by Oracle. Oracle will deem virtual machine and bare metal compute instances as idle if, during a 7-day period, the following are true:
CPU utilization for the 95th percentile is less than 10%
Network utilization is less than 10%
Memory utilization is less than 10% (applies to A1 shapes only)
Information on the resources that you get for free: https://docs.oracle.com/en-us/iaas/Content/FreeTier/freetier_topic-Always_Free_Resources.htm
Note: Use https://www.oracle.com/cloud/costestimator.html (Compute VM -> Load) to see how much it'll cost (Make sure to press Apply 200GB Free Tier Discount in Storage - Block Volumes)
- https://cloud.oracle.com Create an account - You will need a debit/credit card
- Go to Compute -> Instances (https://i.imgur.com/dwpCM7K.png)
- Make sure that the
Compartmentis set tousername (root)
Here is an image: https://i.imgur.com/6tz7DDU.png
- Press "Create instance"
- Click Edit next to Image and shape (https://i.imgur.com/ggjJhjr.png)
- Click "Change image" and switch it to Canonical Ubuntu (You should use 22.04 if possible as 20.04 is only supported until April 2025)
- Click "Select image" at the bottom
- Click "Change shape" and switch it to Ampere ->
VM.Standard.A1.Flex(https://i.imgur.com/1AAiPP3.png)
The default option (VM.Standard.E2.1.Micro) will also work. The differences are that it uses an AMD CPU (which tends to have better compatibility and general performance), but because of that (it's more expensive!), you can only have 2, and for each, you only get 1 CPU core, 1GB of memory, and the network bandwidth is limited to 480Mbps (megabits/second)
With VM.Standard.A1.Flex (what is boxed in red), you have 4 OCPUs and 24GB memory total, you can switch in the future so for now you can max it out (to 4 OCPU and 24GB)
9. Click "Select shape" at the bottom
10. Make sure to either generate or if you already have an SSH key, upload your public key files in the "Add SSH keys" section
11. At the bottom where it says "Boot volume", the default is 46.6 GB, if you want more than this (limited to 200GB), press "Specify a custom boot volume size" but it must be at least 50GB. You cannot decrease the size, however you can increase it later. Because of this, I would highly recommend keeping the boot volume under (or at) 150GB, or else you'll have to terminate your instance to create any others
12. Press "Create." Note: you may get an "Out of Capacity" error due to there being no more available VPSes. I would recommend first switching Availability Domain (press "Edit" on the right of the "Placement" box at the top) and pressing "Create" a couple times (this has worked for me many times). If that still doesn't work, then you can automate this process using https://github.com/hitrov/oci-arm-host-capacity/
13. Wait for it to say "Running" (might have to refresh the page in a few minutes) and then where it says "Instance access", that's how you can connect to the VPS
_ _
Lol
^
❤️
Nah
Our hosts had a staff member's account token compromised
Which allowed them to get access to an entire node and delete all the files on it
They restored the files via backup, but they said the compromiser got in because the node was "was newly deployed and not fully set up and secured yet, and he then wiped everything" so yeah
It's been about a week since they said they'd tell me why customers were put on an unfinished node, still haven't been told
Since this compromise, a CEO has left and multiple staff have left, everyone is kind of abandoning ship but some people are still hanging on
imo no staff member should be allowed to singlehandedly do that without additional confirmation
That's why I'm getting out
Cuz what are they doing 😭
The price I had was unbeatable though for the specs, no one can offer it 🥲
What host is it?
Surf hosting
They were pretty good and credible up til that point
But I’ve heard stuff in the background claiming they were mehhhh
hypixel... i wonder when it come out
im not sure how trustworthy they are but webdock offers insane prices rn
50% off for black friday
Don’t go with them
IMO
why not?
#placeholder-api pls
Read up lol
thats not abt webdock?
is it?
im confused
also like this is why u take backups lmao, its a risk no matter what host u use
We all did…
It’s not webdock no, it’s game hosting
So then why would i not go with them
Well if you want to your stuff to be put on unsecure nodes go for it lol, they just don’t have good business practices from what I’ve saw
the unsecure node thing was a different host
im confused
all reading ive done has been minimal complaints
and most are just people making the host a single point of failure
uhh idk what you mean now
can someone help please
Idek if we are talking about the same thing
Someone will help when they can just gotta be patient
OH
I thought
Something else
right here
Yeah no I was just stupid
Read totally wrong
Sorry about that
I’ll definitely look into them as well
Hello
Hello, I have a problem with the Deluxemenu 1.21 plugin
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DeluxeMenus requires you to have PlaceholderAPI installed in order for the plugin to function.
To fix, install PlaceholderAPI and restart the server.
I found DeluxeMenus v1.14.0-Release - plugin is disabled but no reason why it was disabled!
Please put your startup log found in /logs/latest.log into a new paste.
@untold siren say, what do you need that bot for?
@solid roost is a scammer
guys can anyone help me? I have 2 BUngeecord proxys on external host and a hub at home but i cant connect them
Does anyone know why /place structure minecraft:end_city always result in "Failed to place structure" even tho I am in the correct biome in the_end?
no
I’m looking to pay $5 to someone who is experienced in Bungee Cord to fix it for me. (Maybe takes about 2 minutes to fix if you know how)
Unless someone would just like to chat about how to fix it for free 👀
@hexed pollen excuse , can I DM you ?
What do you need done?
• Removed 20 messages.
u rlly have nothing else to do
who deleting
piggy
give me logs
i asked about deluxemenu fix and that guy started flaming me
didnt have the chance to read that garbonzo
ok still didnt get my fix to deluxemenu 
what's wrong with deluxemenus
bad plugin
rip
doesnt wanna give the kits from essentials

tbf it was kinda funny to start but it devolved
oop apologies for ping
thought i turned off
idc ahout pings
idk why discord doesnt let u set it off by default
ngl haven't used deluxemenus for like 7 years
what else then 
but uh
im broke and no hope for another plugin tbh
give us ur config lets have a look
click_commands:
- '[player] kit player'
- '[close]'
no I mean I just haven't ran a server since 2017
this should give me the essentials kit right?
same tbh
small small question
im outdated
?codeblocks
Use codeblocks for formatting code or configuration files:
```<language name>
<your code here>
```
For example:
```yaml
test:
- “hi”
- “there”
```
Produces:
test:
- “hi”
- “there”```
what is it supposed to do
lemme try consult the dmenus wiki
give me the essential kit
(have you tried doing what i'm about to do)
a kit called player?
could send u the whole yml if u need
yes in essentialsx
i didnt sleep in 12h my brain is cooked
i tried for 3h to fix it nothing worked
let me open the server and see
sends me to the gui kits
wanna vc or u busy?
or anyone
same thing
" that kit is improperly defined
yeah cool
ur essentials kit config is fucked then
essentials problem not deluxemenus problem
kits:
player:
delay: 86400 # 1 day
items:
- stone_sword:1 name:&7Player_Sword lore:&aBasic_Gear enchant:sharpness:1,unbreaking:1
- stone_pickaxe:1 name:&7Player_Pickaxe lore:&aMining_Tool enchant:efficiency:1
- stone_axe:1 name:&7Player_Axe lore:&aWoodcutter_Tool enchant:unbreaking:1
- cooked_beef:16
did u make that by hand
last time I used essentials it had a command to make kits ingame
are people seriously using ai to make kit configs
yes
what the fuck
lmaoo

actually bannable
real?
bruh
lol
essentials has a command to make kits ingame, surely it'd be faster to just give urself the items then use the kit create command then try explain to ai what u want
sure
hi question
oh god another one
no it's not that bad

i hope at least
i've nearly met the question quota for today
better be a good one
the last one probably took a year off my lifespan
in what situation would a server even think about consuming 34gb of ram with 20 minutes uptime
oh
uhh mem leak
yes
ha u still have ur quota piglet get rekt
wew
also why ru giving the server that much to begin with
i restarted it and that ram just racks itself up during initialization, guessing it's got something to do with a plugin?
rlly wanna know how u managed that thing
drop ur plugin list
i got a huge dedi from equinix
and allocate less ram so the crash happens sooner
[09:09:34 INFO]: Server Plugins (15):
[09:09:34 INFO]: Bukkit Plugins:
[09:09:34 INFO]: - BetterMsgPlus, BlueMap, Chunky, CoreProtect, floodgate, Geyser-Spigot, GSit, InvSeePlusPlus, LuckPerms, Multiverse-Core
[09:09:34 INFO]: SkinsRestorer, ViaBackwards, ViaRewind, ViaVersion, WorldEdit```
chunky
yea but why are you allocating more than 12gb
that pregenerates chunks?
GC is gonna kill u
yeep
oh yeah make sure chunky isnt keeping chunks loaded after
best recc would be to pregen with only chunky
then add other plugins after
i'll get chunky off
i'm gonna be honest with you i have no clue
bestie its ur server
using -Xms128M -Xmx64G does sound a little overkill now that i'm looking back to it
you ordered the sandwich
chunky off, restarting
Read this too
just in case
aren't there new flags now
https://docs.papermc.io/paper/aikars-flags
Yea i guess use this
ppl made new flags a while ago for zgc and shenandoah but idk if they're recommended over aikar's og g1 flags
lord
good for u go brag to chatgpt abt it
idk i trust aikar with my life.
thanks, no clue whether it was actually chunky or not but i'm down to 5 gigs
i have 40 plugins and i have 1gb usage
ask chatgpt about preallocation
fr
Pretty up-to-date guide: https://github.com/Mukul1127/Minecraft-Java-Flags
YOOO your from perth?
sick
ive from south more but sick to find another west aussie
How does one setup for java dev in vscode, I refuse to use a proper IDE
tryna get 2 things:
- Hot reload plugins
- Build and copy shortcuts
if I figure those out my life is complete
TLDR; you don't lol
and why don't you want a proper IDE?
lol
then delete stuff?
literally cant atm, and need to work on a plugin
pretty sure at least 20% of that storage is useless stuff
nope, proj files for school
gna clear like 150gb after its done
in like 3 weeks
trash can surely has a few GBs
cleared that to make room for the school proj
and downloads fodler
cleared temp
downloads
documents
update files
😭 im so cooked
anyway, back to question
vscode java dev!
I just want an ftp action
got my vps with the mc server, can auto upload and stuff
imma just keep struggling thru it with cli and drag and drop for now 💀
most of the workflow is there IDK how to get autoupload and stuff working 😭
BleachBit
how much storage does it have lmao
wym
oh, 256gb
you only need around 12gb for intellij
i normally back stuff up to my NAS but I can't do the data analysis etc from storage
so, 9gb more
I cannot clear my storage rn
cannot and will not are 2 different things
imma just ignore you if you aint gonna help with the solution, ty for the suggestion
wtf
lmao
gonna go figure out my jank on my own
just a troll
😭
you acting like a troll lol
@serene lotus exempt SteamCleaner from blacklist 💀
literally came here with a weirdly specific problem and getting called a troll 😔
like bruh
is every non generic problem a troll?
anyway byebye
just gna get to work making this jank work
in my book, that's a troll
I've given my parameters, and yet you refuse to accept that they are my actual parameters
??
there is always a way to clean your pc, vscode is just bad for java dev
I don't understnad
understandable, did you see the things I needed to get working tho?
ever heard of XY problem? Just because you think your solution is the solution, doesn't mean it should be the solution for your problem
and like I said here, you cannot and will not are 2 different things, because you SURELY can
kewl, imma just install intellij in 3 weeks when my storage clears up
you just don't want to. Why? You are focused that your solution of using vscode is the right one
no one is belittling you, if anything, you are.
We gave you solutions, you refuse them.
There is not much else we can do
thank you for your time
thing is, there are probably like 2 people that uses vsc for java dev here
and we cant help you here lol
👍
exactly lol
I wonder who those are actually
^^ me and the voices in my head
anyways, BleachBit, CCleaner, Everything and SteamCleaner (on github), by using these you should be able to make more than enough space for IJ
ty
I'll attempt
🙏
also if these are coding projects you should be able to delete cache/build files, the space adds up quickly
wait what do yall use for editing?
video editing?
code
depends on language
VSC, im such a webdev 😔
god i should probably start using intellij
please for the love of god dont say sublime
dw i switched off sublime a few months ago
sublime got discontinued and is not even a code editor
😭 nahhh
usually just like vim
what im saying
its not even an editor
and yet 100s of people used it to edit code
😭
i mean if it edits text you can write code in it
yes but the diff. between an editor and an IDE is huge lol
Just like VSC vs WebStorm
WebStorm kinda destroys vscode
lol
ive got nvim set up with jdtls and its served me well
IDEs can't be compared to code editors
whats like the overall benefit
of IDEs?
yea
its in the name
integrated development environment
all the tools you'd find useful are right there
Just purchase some storage, simple.
code editors like vsc are just notepad but reskinned
I will gladly do that when I unbrokify myself
thank you
i can also find those by just closing the editor and going to the terminal
no?
or are there like specialized tools
quite a few, scroll thru the intellij feature list
code completion, refactoring tools, better shortcuts from my experience, error highlighting, powerful debuggers, static/code analysis, version control integration, builtin build tools support like gradle, unit testing support, just like vsc you have plugins for extra customization, profiling, and a bunch more stuff
overall better experience
Zamn
i mean ive got all those but code completion and im not a big fan of ML for code
that's not what I meant with code completion
Intelligent code completion
IntelliJ IDEA provides context-sensitive code completion, offering you suggestions that are only valid for the current caret position. You don’t need to use any shortcuts or configure additional settings; code completion will start as soon as you begin typing your code in the editor.
IntelliJ IDEA uses machine learning to ensure the most relevant suggestion is at the top of the list.```
thats what it is
although copilot is integrated in Intellij nowadays
I am speaking about the normal "tab" completion
ohh
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it is way more powerful than any other place lol
so yes, it uses ML but it's not like you might think
it doesn't write code for you
i know
from the list of all methods available, it uses ML to make sure the most relevant are at the top
i just again, dont like it
so it's easier
personal preference
idk how they trained it, idk what biases it has, i dont know if theyre using my code for training
i wouldnt want to join a club that allows me as a member
im aware...
either way i trust my skills more without crutches
even if the crutches make it a lot easier
why is bro comparing a text editor with IDE
its less like crutches and more like using a knife instead of trying to use your hands for cutting lmao
i get the argument for not using llms and people that are used to vim usually need their shortcuts but both are available in a proper ide
true but i have no idea where ill be developing. i might need to ssh into a server, or use some random work computer
i get why using an ide is good, im just saying it doesnt fit my usecase. i didnt know why in specific they were using one which is why i asked lol
if it's a proper "work computer" meant for development, it should at least have a dedicated IDE
vscode at minimum imo
but if you're coding in ssh.. then it's another problem
ehh sometimes i need to remote into a server to update a config or a backend
and so i just make the changes and commit there
oh like 1 file changes
aren't there plugins for that too anyways?
doesn't jetbrains have workspaces or whatever it's called for remote coding
a remote machine running a JetBrains IDE backend so id need to install stuff onto the server
:/
and you can also connect to a remote ssh server lol
can use either ssh or jetbrains space
again i get the appeal, i see why people would use it. but its just more work for me to learn a whole new toolkit
im not good enough to where im being skill capped by my tooling
why change it
no one is saying you should
ur sure selling it hard for someone whos apathetic
I am just stating, if needing a remote connection is your problem, then it does cover it
lol
it doesnt have things like telescope, tmux, harpoon, grep, sed, awk
and if im adding features to it doesnt that ruin the point?
I only know half of those, and the ones I know, it pretty much has it
lol
like im just trying to understand this, im not tryna argue.
me neither
lol
I am just correcting your statement
"it doesn't have things like ...."
well, it kind of does
you use the IDE, well, to code on the remote server, and you also have the terminal at hand, in the IDE itself
ok but then like why not just stay in the terminal
was about to go into that
if you SOMEHOW
need something the IDE doesn't provide
just open up the terminal
it's like, 1 click
xD
Like i used to use ides, i just found 95% of my time was either editing text or using terminal
Alt+F12 if you wanna be fancy
it wasnt worth 20gb and a decvent amount of cpu and ram for a fancier terminal
I personally am curious on how you used the terminal so much
for web stuff I can SOMEWHAT see that happening
but for stuff like java, very unlikely
xd
unless you have intellisense, code completion, syntax highlighting, error highlighting in the terminal, I can say for sure that coding in the terminal is way more prone to bugs
compiling, moving files, renaming, finding specific functions, etc
not just bugs.
id rather know how to debug than have a tool do it for me
ever heard of build tools? gradle my beloved
debugging is a whole different thing
it doesn't do it for you
./gradlew build
lol
idk i just like my workflow, i can code well, and im paid for it
you can execute gradle tasks with 1 click too xD
if you count creating bugs by writing poor code and then having to re-write the code again to fix the bug then I guess you can call it debugging
soo, not something only doable in the terminal
i havent used a mouse in a while tbh
lol
you don't need a mouse to use an IDE either
lol
.
im not gonna learn 100 new keybinds
if that's your concern
you can change them to the ones you know
or that
or... just learn ur tendencies and write good code
like yea sure starting out an ide was great but it became more annoying
best of both worlds
if only it was so easy
thx its gone well
imagine running a whole microservice ecosystem on vim
LMAO
done it
sure it's doable
works fine
but why
just because it's doable doesn't mean you should do it
lol
or well
it's worth doing it
yall seem to be very hateful for people who dont care if i use a ide or not
i like my setup it works fine
i get why others use it
but im good
IDEs are there to simplify things and increase productivity, not to write code for you
im not saying yall should use terminal
I see the appeal of only working in terminal in cases where you literally are prohibited of installing any software on the computer, but even then it's rare imo
its just habit
no one is hating on you, we are trying to understand why
same way i dont use windows. im sure if i started out on windows id still be there, but i didnt so im not
i like my setup it works fine
thats why
an actual reason besides "Because I said so"
preferences and opinions are usually based on facts
well my habit was using vscode for, well, literally everything - JS, Java, C#, etc.
didnt mean it was a good habit, only had to try out IJ for a couple days and noticed a big difference in development experience and performance
no one said it does, it's rather curiosity
my opinion is vim works well and i like tmux
it's not everyday you see someone preferring vim over an IDE
the fact is vim has decades of work done on it to work well
ive seen people writing rust via nano
theres a someone for any case
seen - sure, is it a good thing to do? debatable
Again, just because you can, that doesn't mean it's the best idea
yea sure. but they liked it and they wrote some of the best code ive seen
its the best idea for them
what do you define as "best code"
I actually genuinely don't understand that statement
lmao
works amazingly, well optimized, handles edge cases from start
polished from the get go
yeah well, that's like, idk, most of codebases for experienced devs
this was a starting base made by them
not devs
dev
the way you edit code doesnt really matter
fun sayHi(name: String) {
println("Hi $name")
}
This method also works amazingly, well optimized, handles all edge cases and is polished
ok but like, im talking a codebase.
i wanna say it was a couple mb worth of raw text
not like build artifacts just the src
there are several code bases that are all those, I don't think you can give a codebase a title/category that easily
the same code base would be more optimized if written in machine code for ex.
is it doable? yes.
Should it be done? No
it doesn't handle null..
parameter can't be null
idk kotlin
im done with this discussion tho its clear u want to be right rather than correct and are approaching it from that position
have a nice day bucko
well that's my pov
well, if you tried a nullable there, it would give a compilation error
you had to either assert it's not null
or idk
thats a fair pov! your preference is fine
my preference is i like to be mobile and want my setup to mirror that
well, I guess it depends how often do you really need to be "mobile"
using words like "bucko" or like previously "kiddo" don't take you far, and if your idea is to make you look like the correct one, let me tell you, that's not it
lol
ad hominem
for me personally I have either my work laptop with all the required software or I code on my PC
pretty often, ive got diagnosed paranoia so i typically reset all my personal machines monthly
lol
so being able to rebuild in like 10 minutes is a nice plus
also just stop being immature and i wont call u immature. m0dii and i have had a good discussion and ive never called them immature
also do you just code over ssh via terminal or/and on your local machine?
oh please, mention me where I was acting immature lol
typically i code over ssh, ocassionally ill mount the remote file system depending on the task
I am not here insulting anyone, you are
well if you ever get into a real job at some corporate office don't expect to be able to ssh into any server to code on there lol
ohh yea no absolutely i meant for like time critical jobs
for typical work i clone
and i do have a real job
well in that case, where you code locally, is even weirder not to have a proper IDE, but that's just my two cents
yea no i get that
its not for everyone
the one other dev here codes on windows using like vscode
and we're writing stuff in go lol
no webdev
ive considered getting an ide for sql db visualization but thats def a crutch
go? okay that explains a tiny bit
go community has a somewhat decent amount of vim users
ofc vscode and goland are still more used
but compared to java for ex. that's a big diff
well, you don't exactly need an IDE for it
some tooling
but nah thats like way too handicapping for me
ive gotta get good at sql eventually
granted most devs say that
it's not that most devs say that, it's kind of a requirement imo
relational dbs are everywhere
unless you don't work with and save like any data at all
i meant moreso most devs have some tooling theyve meant to learn
like im good enough at sql to work on an inventory management system for my job
but beyond that ehh
vim users usually are a diehard bunch so eh + vim with addons turns into an ide anyway after a while
im not even diehard it just fits my usecase
does anyone know a plugin that works for 1.8 spigot where you can change the fishing loot table with a weight system and add custom items. Using a GUI in game?
if there's not one I will pay someone to make one if you give me a quote
w
@hexed roost i've sent you a dm
they post it every few days
Hey @molten crag what kind of icons are you looking for?
I am looking for something like a mix of realistic and cartoon that's 2d. I may have just found someone else. I'll DM you if it doesn't work out.
Yeah no worries, i was asking if you meant graphic or pixel style, but no worries if you found someone already
Yeah no worries, i was asking if you meant graphic or pixel style, but no worries if you found someone already
Oh, aha.
FUCK
i didn't read the name
can someone geniunely just ban this dude he's done nothing but post the same "video" multiple times, i mean, i only got tricked twice but i wonder how many people fell for it already
dont angry friends
and now you're just deleting it
execute his ass
honestly the first time i've seen something like it lol
and it's less about me specifically just overall not being pleasant for other users that get tricked for it, no reason keeping someone like that on the server
@proper berry this is a warning next time it gets posted it will be a mute.
tbf this was the 3rd time they posted it :3
Now they have a warning so next one is a mute
a valueless punishment for a person that doesn't have a need to communicate
they had just deleted messages so i was letting u know idk ur audit system
like taking a playstation from a kid who doesn't even have electricity
ah yes maven my beloved thank you for greeting me with this after like what 3years of not touching maven? https://imgur.com/a/5WSRPZC
Hey everyone, just wondering if anyone has ever had the issue with the essentialsx plugin where you do /playtime or /playtime (username) and it just says “Now” and not their actual playtime.
We love maven
ubuntu or debian for a minecraft server?
Personally I use Ubuntu Server with CasaOS and Crafty Controller.
I’ve had good experiences with that setup
If it's your first time, do Ubuntu.
I would say there's little to no difference between debian and ubuntu for running a minecraft server.
but, well, I suppose Ubuntu is a bit "easier".
hi guys
and more stable
It's more if they plan to install anything or similar.
either way (iirc) ubuntu is based on debian
Correct.
Ubuntu just has a bunch of other packages installed, etc that makes installing other apps easier.
though personally, for (possibly) less bloatware, I'd recommend Debian
to my knowledge the main debian repo is also bigger
Given they are asking Debian or Ubuntu, thus unaware of the key differences, Ubuntu is more appropriate for them
could be old news tho
the fuck do you mean lmao, Debian is the stable Linux distro
Ubuntu adds a bunch of bullshit on top, especially like snaps which are just horrible and kill your performance
right, yeah, I just remembered that the server I was working for actually used the unstable version of debian, hence this comparison
Can a mod or someone help? every time I break a block and the same one like 1 block away the items both go to the same spot in normal minecraft it doesn't someone help
Debian's also the one I use for performance, not bloated to shit




