minecraft

[wheat talon]

Does protocol lib work 1.19

[tough haven]

Dev builds do

[edgy snow]

Hi. I have question about chunk loading some times when i fly fast it wont load chunks and its slow how can i fix that and the tps drops?

[forest gazelle]

get a better processor

and faster storage

ez

[tough haven]

Did you pregenerate your map?

[edgy snow]

A little bit

[noble coral]

Does anyone know of a good place to find server hubs? Free or for sale. Specifically looking for an aviation/airplane themed hub. Weird ik, and hard to come across haha

[jagged parcel]

#992627660146626601 /#992627660146626601

[timid plover]

a good choice

[noble coral]

Thanks!

[torpid turtle]

anyone please suggest a blackmarket plugin for 1.19

[brittle granite]

any online paste bins for minecraft logs?

to see what it issue is?

[slow imp]

If you are asking about a tool to analize it, i dont think so

[brittle granite]

dam

[drifting thistle]

Hello, can anyone what version of dm should I use for mc 1.12?

[umbral lance]

Deluxemenus - Version List

Spigot:

1.8.8
1.12.2
1.16.5
1.17.1
1.18.2

Version:

v1.10.5
v1.13.5 - Latest
v1.13.5 - Latest
v1.13.5 - Latest
1.13.5 - Latest

Requested by BlitzOffline · Jul 22, 2022, 10:18 PM

[ruby solar]

Hello, I’m running a minecraft server it has often 60 - 120 players at time and it generates arround 150$ - 250$ of revenue per month. Today a bigger server owner dm’ed me and offered me 500 pounds for the server. In total I would have arround 1000$ because I haven’t payed ddos protection, hosting prices yet. I’ve spent many hours developing this server and got very comfortable with my playerbase. What should I do?

[misty root]

revenue seems quite low for 60+ concurrent players

[ruby solar]

It’s cracked

[gaunt basin]

uni dont accept, if you make 150-250 a month median of 200 you can make what he wants to pay for entire server in 3 months

@ruby solar

[foggy nymph]

i was working on a 3d model for an ak47, (for context im russian and my dad trained in some sort of military school) and i showed it to him and he scolded me because it wasn't the right color.

truly i have hit the peak of modeling realism

[warm canyon]

How much do 64x64 textured resource packs typically cost?

I'm interested in getting one made but I don't know how much people typically charge.

[pastel badger]

If your doing it for the money sell it. Its not making anything for that size playerbase at all.
But im suspecting your not doing it for the money, you like the community and have put a lot of work into it. Kind of obvious if this is the case dont sell it.

[sharp path]

listen to this question, if I put the server at home and opened ports on it so that I can play minecraft, I use the console and access the files of the minecraft server locally, how can I give a friend access to the server if he lives far away??

[last sierra]

Give him your IP and server port

[misty root]

if you mean accessing the server console and files (if windows that is)

easiest way probably is just remote desktop

otherwise probably ssh

[sharp path]

and how to give to a friend ssh

or access to the desktop

I have a server machine without a monitor, I transmit data from it over a local connection

[torpid turtle]

Please someone help

[misty root]

exactly the same, just not over local

[drifting thistle]

don't do it

[fading turtle]

Depends on what you want. But it can range from like 15$ to alot

[tough haven]

Would count with at least 5$ per texture

[warm canyon]

Jesus

[last sierra]

It seems that you really have no clue in this field

[tough haven]

every artist that has at least a bit of experience will want a lot for 64 textures, if you get 50 textures for like 15 dollars, then the quality will be horrible or the artist just wanted less than it was worth

[inland canyon]

Hi I'm trying to access #role-request but I have no access to it?

[foggy nymph]

16x better than 64x cant change my mind

[inland canyon]

Ah I just needed a level

[upbeat dune]

Do u guys know a way to prevent despawning in a server. We have an event and I dont want mobs to despawn.. U guys know a way to fix this?

[inland canyon]

https://hub.spigotmc.org/javadocs/spigot/org/bukkit/entity/LivingEntity.html#setRemoveWhenFarAway(boolean)

[tough haven]

In most cases yes, 32 is also sometimes usable, but higher ones not very much

[shy lion]

Sex

[drifting thistle]

hello guys maybe offtopic but who could read this spark report and tell me what's wrong with the server https://spark.lucko.me/EqFIdnFmGJ thanks

[humble hatch]

Aye I'm curious do you guys like Factions or Skyblock more?

[drifting thistle]

neither

[spice shoal]

Skyblock

[past arch]

hellow

any one online

[last sierra]

[grizzled vault]

Is this safe? https://github.com/Hexeption/MCP-Reborn

I want to make a custom client.

[fleet cargo]

What kind of server would be ideal on a Contabo server?

[tough haven]

None, Contabo is bad for Minecraft

(Suitable maximally for server with friends for less than 10 ppl)

[honest aurora]

How does one verify themselves as a premium buyer?

[tough haven]

#spigot-linking

[fleet cargo]

if you have a small network with different gamemodes maybe you can scale that up higher than 10 as you're not limited to one single core.

[tough haven]

Not on Contabo, its the worst possible host

[fleet cargo]

if it doesn't work I can use it as a dev server cause it's cheap.

[tough haven]

For a dev server sure, but definitely not for production

[cunning abyss]

https://imgur.com/3cU3J7z

Ran out of memory?

[fading turtle]

yup

[scenic peak]

can someone help me please it says failed to log in: the authentication servers are not currently not reachable on every server

and @ me please so I know when your trying to help me I cant play with my friends

[scenic peak]

idk what to do

[tough haven]

Its issue on Mojangs end, you just gotta wait, cant do anything else

[scenic peak]

@tough haven thanks

[scenic peak]

@tough haven
Do you know whenever it’s gonna get fixed?

[scenic peak]

?

[torpid turtle]

can anybody please tell me a blackmarket plugin for 1.19 please

[tough haven]

It usually takes hour or 2

[drifting thistle]

🤨

[torpid turtle]

I couldn't fine any plugin with that name

[tough haven]

Theres one on Polymart, but never tried it, so no idea if its good or not

[torpid turtle]

Can I have link please

[tough haven]

Hm, as i see theres more of them actually
https://polymart.org/resource/darkauctionsx-hypixel-inspired.1340
https://polymart.org/resource/royaleeconomy-1-8-1-19.113/page/black-market
https://www.mc-market.org/resources/17272/

[torpid turtle]

Thanks :)
I will check them out

[drifting thistle]

Hi all

What to do if an error pops up: An internal error occurred while attempting to perform this command when reloading the deluxemenus plugin yaml checker writes that everything is OK and the menu does not work

[timid plover]

#general-plugins. also send the startup log

[umbral lance]

FAQ Answer:

Startup Log Location
Your latest startup log can be found in the logs folder of your
server directory, labeled as latest.log.
Please copy the contents and paste them to a paste service.
Type ?paste for more information.

Requested by: BlitzOffline • startuplog

[drifting thistle]

Thanks

[scenic peak]

@tough haven I have been waiting for three days though and something that may be the problem with it maybe recently got like hacked or something like that but I just got it back but I don’t know if I got it back completely or not

[scenic peak]

So is there anything other that could be stopping me

[scenic peak]

?

And my Internet Is good on other games too so I don’t think it’s my Internet

[tough haven]

Then its prolly issue on your end if it still persists, i dont see any reports about auth servers being down rn

[scenic peak]

Do you have any idea on how to fix it

[scenic peak]

?

[empty matrix]

Only thing I can think of is logging out and logging back in
and also try a large server if you hadn't already such as hypixel.net

and also try running vanilla mc, no mods

[scenic peak]

I tried all of those

[empty matrix]

how long has this been happening?

[scenic peak]

4 days

[empty matrix]

yes I saw

[warm canyon]

So, after looking at a timings report, I think light generating blocks (lava, magma, etc) in mass amounts cause lag

https://timings.aikar.co/?id=5cd23124b8b64414a585ebc3fbefe468

I have a world made entirely of magma, blackstone, stone, and lava, and it is the laggiest world.

[mossy vigil]

Yeah that could be an issue lol

[burnt kite]

Anyone here good with legal action?
I found a site reuploading mods from other platforms

https://minecraft-max.net/mods/69038/#RECEPTS

That's my mod

It has my name, and gives me a spot to claim the account

But it was all done without my consent

(They have a faq with the dumbest excuse for reuploading I've ever seen)

That's not how permission works, for example

[slow imp]

Never heard of 9minecraft and other stupid sites?

[burnt kite]

I have, and they have some of my stuff too

Seems easier to go for the smaller sites though

[obsidian ferry]

is there any expansion for geyser?

[fading turtle]

Are these payed plugins?

[burnt kite]

no, but they're my IP

[burnt kite]

yes, they have one for custom resource packs iirc

[obsidian ferry]

Can u send link I can't find it

[burnt kite]

I actually can't find it, so maybe it's gone?

[pulsar pasture]

i'm going to make a forge server, do players need to have forge installed to play the server?

[empty matrix]

afaik
only mods that require the mod to be on the client

such as adding any items, biomes, entities, etc

[pulsar pasture]

it's gonna just be the WebDisplays mod

so, will I need users to have the mod on their client?

[empty matrix]

what does webdisplays do?

does it add any new items

or mobs

[pulsar pasture]

well

i think it adds a computer

so

[empty matrix]

Probably needs to be on the client too then

[pulsar pasture]

mkay

so ig my server has to be private

[warm canyon]

Are light-emitting entities tile entities?

Stuff like magma and lava?

[pine sky]

hey so im looking at having this menu stay/forced open until you pick a free pet https://i.imgur.com/JNytEEH.png

F wrong channel sry

[empty matrix]

no

they are not entities

or tile entities

[chilly hull]

when i try to run my code i get an error "cannot access org.bukkit.ChatColor" does anyone know why?

[mossy vigil]

They're just blocks

It's the lighting that causes lag

[distant cape]

what are sum fetures yall would like to see in a prision server or skyblock that isnt already a thing or else something changed

[forest gazelle]

earn robux in minecraft skyblock

[remote bay]

uhm any suggestions of sounds for GUI open and switching between guis? (preferably one that can be used in both)

tried lever.click but it seems a bit... annoying..

also tried experience_orb.pickup

also a bit annoying

maybe minecraft:block.note_block.hat

[torpid turtle]

I use door open for shop GUI

And ui click for general menus

[torpid turtle]

[22:34:52 WARN]: LoveU4U sent expired chat: 'can you give me wood or picaxe'. Is the client/server system time unsynchronized? c: 1659071181 s: 1659105292

Any idea what this means and how do I fix it?

Paper server running in 1.19

Only 1 player's msg/command shows this issue

First time in my life i am facing this

[torpid ore]

it simply can mean that your player's message took 30 seconds to reach to the server or sth,
or simply just something wrong with the client clock

you can surpress this warning by setting surpress in purpur.yml, and also make a kicking plugin that kicks the guys who cause this issue (WHEN THEY HAVE VERY GOOD PING) whenever this issue appears so their clock will "synchronize" after they rejoin

[torpid turtle]

Hmm
He alr gets kicked like after 5-6 of these error everytime

[torpid ore]

he has high ping? if he does then dont worry about it
its not your problem

[torpid turtle]

Kind of..
He got unstable ping

[torpid ore]

then no worries at all! its his problem
but meanwhile you can consider thinking of ways to upgrade your bandwidth or get like a better server location or sth idk

[torpid turtle]

All other players get ping like 60-80
Might be his network issue

It's closest possible location to the playerbase under budget

[stable remnant]

anybody know how to color text in a lang file with hex colors?

[jagged parcel]

hmm i know color codes were \u0aa7 but i'm pretty sure hexes are done in json but i'm not sure

[slow imp]

Minecraft lang files dont have any colors as far as I'm aware

[wide linden]

how do u make a ticket

[jagged parcel]

there are no tickets here

[warm canyon]

So, I'm having what appears to be an attack of some kind on my server's internet. I've tested running it on 2 different ISP's, and it seems whatever ISP the server is on has frequent outages around specific times, but the outages themselves don't last for any more than 1-2 minutes tops. I have the server on CloudFlare Spectrum as well as a VPS reverse proxy, and yet the issues still happen. How can I find out if this is an attack?

It's been going on for the last 2 months and I've ruled out things like hardware issues and software issues.

I've also tried changing my server's public IP 5+ times but it seems to have no affect.

[tame otter]

how do i add my server to that server channel lol im struggling

[fading turtle]

@tame otter https://helpch.at/faq/share-my-server

[tame otter]

Says cannot find server on my ip lol 🤣

[fading turtle]

Make sure you have query stuff on

Enable-query has to be true

Enable-query has to be true

[twilit spindle]

Hello , my intellj is weird , today morning i made a tasks folder and put the task code in there , idk what happend but after that , when i was trying to build project , it keeps on telling me that i Java: Package xxxx does not exist and java: symbol not found

and btw i accidentally pressed run build button and after that it when like this i think

[fading turtle]

#dev-general @twilit spindle

[twilit spindle]

oh , i'm sorry , thank you for telling me that

[slim rain]

Hello everyone,
I have a 1.19 paper server with a survival world and with 40 plugins. I'm trying to discover how much the server.properties view-distance setting impacts on server side performance (I'm talking in particular of the "view-distance" value, and not of the "simulation-distance"). Would you have some advice? Which could be the optimal values for those settings?

[forest gazelle]

it depends on your hardware and plugins and player activity and a bunch of other stuff

there is no single magic number, otherwise we would all be using it

[slim rain]

Yeah sure, but with very good hardware and average 30-40 players on which range I will be forced to stay? I don't actually need a precise number, what I need to know is a range, for example with what I explainde in this message I would fall into view distance 6-12 or 12-16?

[tough haven]

8 and 6 are the most used values (for view and simulation), sometimes even lower

[slim rain]

Yeah but if I set simulation to 6 or 5 could I increase view?

[tough haven]

View should be higher or same

Give a try to View 8 and Simulation 6, if you still have problems, then lower both of them

[slim rain]

I mean how much does view distance alone impact? (Supposing a simultaion fixed at 6)

[tough haven]

Its not really possible to say, depends on lot of stuff

[forest gazelle]

view distance impacts quite a bit

for a survival world

[slim rain]

My problem is that I can't test it now, I need an estimation to make a design decision

[forest gazelle]

are you sure you can't test it now

if you have a server with 30-40 players

[slim rain]

No I'm not sure if there is a way of testing it, the fact is that now I have not the players to test it

I have not the server open rn

For that I'm seeking if someone with experience could give me a wide estimation

[forest gazelle]

with 30-40 people on and a zen 3 processor and an nvme drive you should probably set your render distance to 6 or 8

[misty root]

there is no absolute way to say

[slim rain]

Another question I would have is how much is view-distance alore impacting (supposing simulation fixed to 6)

[forest gazelle]

not that it matters because you can always change it

[misty root]

it depends on how distributed your players are

[forest gazelle]

he is determined to get a number from us

[slim rain]

Oh ok thanks

[slim rain]

But about this?

[drifting thistle]

Is possible to create with deluxemenus punishment menu? So it would be like this: First ban for severity is 1h, another ban would be 2h and so on. (Punishments will be increased everytime I ban/mute player thru menu)

[fading turtle]

Yes im assuming it is- with the right knowledge.

[shadow parcel]

yes

[warm canyon]

My server got hit 5 separate times today, can someone help with this: #minecraft message

[sour gale]

Anyone know where I can get a nice pixelart emoji pack for my discord?

[neon jacinth]

MCModels has some emoji packs

[sour gale]

just 4 packs?

[warm canyon]

My server just got hit again THREE more times can someone PLEASE help with this: #minecraft message

[empty matrix]

I'd get a VPS/similar instead of home hosting

to completely change the IP

and if the host has ddos protection, that's even better

[warm canyon]

I'm moving over to a dedicated provider right now, but it's $76 a month just for something I've been getting for free home hosting.

My question is how the hell they're doing this, and nobody seems to be able to answer.

[empty matrix]

also have you changed the ports at all too?

[warm canyon]

No, but that's not the point.

[empty matrix]

since they could probably just be scanning the ip ranges

[warm canyon]

My server is behind TWO proxies.

[empty matrix]

since they already know your past ip

[empty matrix]

that doesn't matter

[warm canyon]

I've changed it FIVE TIMES.

[empty matrix]

wait how many digits did you say it changed?

forgot

[warm canyon]

I recently just swapped entire ISPS.

So the WHOLE IP changed.

[empty matrix]

was thinking 2 but I remember you mentioning it was more

oh I see

hmmm

[warm canyon]

And it's STILL.

Happening.

[empty matrix]

I did not know that you changed ISPs
so that's... odd that they are still able to access it

[warm canyon]

Like I say, I don't know how the fuck they're doing this. It's been non stop for 2 months, and it only happens on the ISP the server is on.

[empty matrix]

At this point the only thing I can think of is that you are missing some part that you forgot to add to the proxy/ddos protection

But seeing as you probably only have mc and dynmap, that's quite unlikely

hmm

or a malicious plugin/server jar

I didn't think of that one

[warm canyon]

That's not it either.

[empty matrix]

thats probably the largest possibility I can think of

either that or you're missing something to add, which I'm pretty sure is not the case

[warm canyon]

The only ports I have opened are Dynmap, Votifier, and the main server connection.

and even the Votifier is proxied on the VPS.

[empty matrix]

How are you sure?

[warm canyon]

Because when this started happening we didn't download anything new.

nothing on the server changed

I rarely add new stuff.

[empty matrix]

for at least a couple weeks?

[warm canyon]

for months

[empty matrix]

hm

[warm canyon]

The only thing that changed was the Paper.jar because we were on an older version

and I got that directly from Paper's site

[empty matrix]

is there any sign of this on like spectrum's dashboard or anything? like a sign of some traffic hitting that

or only on your ip

[warm canyon]

My Cloudflare for the Dynmap says that there's been 3190 traffic in the last 6 hours.

SSL requests served: 165,754

Attacks blocked: 0

opposed to the main server Cloudflare domain which says there's been 76 traffic, 196 SSL requests served, and 13 attacks blocked

but it always says there's 13 attacks blocked

I'm thinking they're somehow using the VPS to bypass Cloudflare, so should I just remove the VPS entirely?

[empty matrix]

have you been using the vps the whole time?

[warm canyon]

yes

as an additional layer of protection I'd hoped

[empty matrix]

I mean I can't think of how they could use the VPS but if that's something that's been the same the whole time then I'd try removing it (as you have cloudflare or tcpshield etc already)

[warm canyon]

This whole issue stems from, IDFK how they'd manage to get the IP of my network let alone the VPS

because the VPS is proxied behind Cloudflare if Spectrum is even a proxy

acording to google, Spectrum is a reverse proxy

[empty matrix]

oh

[warm canyon]

So my network is behind not one, but TWO reverse proxies and this is STILL happening.

[empty matrix]

wait protected reverse proxy?

[warm canyon]

The VPS is a Winstri one, so it might have DDoS mitigation, idk.

Here's how I have it set up

I'm not advertising the VPS anywhere at all.

The only thing being advertised is the domain name for the server, which comes from Spectrum.

Now the backend for Spectrum is the VPS.

And the backend for the VPS is my local network.

[crude axle]

probably ip scanners, from 134.x.x.x to 134.255.255.255 or something, idk

[warm canyon]

They'd have to scan for a long time though, but it seems this happened within a day or two after I changed IP's.

And again, my server is behind two proxies.

How are they bypassing that?

Anyone?

[forest gazelle]

maybe youve made a booboo

[warm canyon]

Nah, not on my end.

[forest gazelle]

the fact that you said it with such certainty makes me doubt you more

[warm canyon]

My dude, I've got EVERYTHING behind TWO proxies.

I don't know how they're doing this.

And everyone I seem to ask doesn't know either.

[fading turtle]

Solution: Dont home host

[torpid ore]

Solution: Quit and wash toilet like me

[fading turtle]

?hosting

[umbral lance]

FAQ Answer:

Free:

• Openshift: https://www.openshift.com/
  2gb of memory, automatically expires after 60 days, but you can resubscribe as often as you'd like.
• Heroku: https://heroku.com/
  No CLI or SSH, no file access, might make your app sleep if you reach monthly uptime limit.
• AWS (Free tier) https://aws.amazon.com/free/
  Free tier containers from Amazon, expires in 12 months
• Google Cloud Platform (Free tier) https://cloud.google.com/
  Free tier google cloud servers

Paid:

• OVH: https://www.ovh.com/us/vps/
  Full VPS starting at $3.49USD/month, choice of OS, high reliability.
• Digital Ocean: https://m.do.co/
  Starting at $5/month (USD), you can have your own server with 20GB SSD Disk, and 512MB Memory.
• Linode: https://www.linode.com/
  Starting at $5/month (USD), you can have a server with 20GB SSD Disk, and 1GB memory
• Vultr: https://www.vultr.com/
  Starting at $2.5/month (USD), you can have a server with 20GB SSD Disk, and 512MB Memory
• Amazon(AWS) Lightsail: https://amazonlightsail.com/
  Starting at $5/month (USD) (first month free), you can have your own server with 20GB SSD Disk, and 512MB Memory.
• Time4VPS: https://www.time4vps.eu/
  Starting at €0.66/month, get 20GB Storage, 512MB Memory, 0.5TB Bandwidth, and Daily/Weekly backups.
  Various Linux OS distributions, IP addons and instant cPanel/WHM licenses.
• VIRMACH: http://virmach.com/
  Full Windows and Linux Desktop VPS starting at $7USD/month and $10USD/month respectively.
• Sloppy: https://sloppy.io/
  Starting at 5$/month (USD) You can have 500MB Memory, 1TB Transfer per month and 16GB of storage. Extra
  storage and ram can be bought.
• Bithost: https://bithost.io/
  Just a forwarder to DO, but here you can pay with crypto currencies like bitcoin, dogecoin, etc
• Galaxygate https://www.galaxygate.net/
  Starting at 3$/month (USD), get 15GB of storage, 1GB of ram, and unmetered bandwidth.

Requested by: Nova 🗕 🗗 🗙 • hosting

[torpid ore]

dogecoin sucks

[fading turtle]

Personally i use Meloncube

[torpid ore]

I use potatopchosting

[warm canyon]

That's not a solution. I want to know how they're doing this.

I'm moving over to DedicatedMC, but my hardware is better.

[fading turtle]

No no- it is a solution.
Its just not the one you want to hear.

[warm canyon]

No, it's not a solution. It's cowardice and a waste of money.

"Yes, run from your problem and invest in a dedicated provider."

I'm doing it because it's the only workaround I have, but it's not a fix.

[fading turtle]

Look lad- You've been asking the same question on here for like a month or so now.
We do not know, we have tried countless times to help you and it hasnt gotten better.

The only thing i can recommend you is either get a network specialist to look at it.
Or switch to a hosting company. Yes, their hardware may be worse, but it also means your network wont get attacked.

[warm canyon]

There's no guarantee that it won't get attacked.

If they can bypass 2 reverse proxies and no one can explain how, how am I any more safe on a dedicated provider?

[buoyant haven]

so when one of these attacks happen

your mc server is inaccessible for the duration of the attack?

usually a few minutes?

[fading turtle]

Ah yes- the best.

[buoyant haven]

are other public services on the machine still accessible?

[warm canyon]

The entire internet the server is on.

[warm canyon]

No.

[buoyant haven]

what about over lan?

[warm canyon]

Lan is fucked too

[buoyant haven]

ok

first off

this probably isn't an attack then

[warm canyon]

It is.

It's extremely specific.

[buoyant haven]

how do you know

[warm canyon]

Because I've run various tests and I even know who's doing it, sorta.

The entire internet of whatever ISP the server is on goes out. I ruled out it being an ISP issue because I swapped ISP's TWICE, and even tested when having 2 ISP's at my home at the same time.

Originally my server was on Time Warner. I moved over to Frontier and the issues still happened there.

So then I reinvested in Time Warner, put my PC on Time Warner and the rest of my devices on Frontier.

All the Frontier devices were fine.

[buoyant haven]

are these isps?

[warm canyon]

Yes.

In short:
It happens at specific times.
It's not ISP specific.
There's a valid suspect who reappeared who has appeared during the exact same kind of issues back in October before I got a VPS.

Basically, the same kind of attacks started happening back in October for a month when a specific user appeared. I invested in a dedicated provider for a month, didn't have an issue, then moved back to home hosting, but this time with a VPS.

Didn't have an issue up until 2 months ago when that same user reappeared right as the VPS was having issues due to a config problem.

[buoyant haven]

very wild guess here...

[warm canyon]

In short, I got caught with my pants down.

[buoyant haven]

your modem/router is part of a bot net

[warm canyon]

I've changed hardware twice.

And I've changed my IP over 6+ times.

[buoyant haven]

doesn't really matter

[warm canyon]

How?

[buoyant haven]

botnets will infect every vulnerable device on the network, if one device is replaced, the malware from other devices will spread back to the replaced device

but if it's a botnet, that'd effect all internet connectivity

is it just the server?

or your entire network

[warm canyon]

It DOES affect all activity.

It's the entire network.

[buoyant haven]

ok well then I think this avenue is worth exploring

[warm canyon]

THANK you. That's the first helpful advice anyone has given, god bless you.

How do I scan for that?

[buoyant haven]

you'll need to run manual diagnostics on your modem/router

i.e. you'll need to ssh in, and run diagnostics like that

you cannot trust the diagnostics on whatever web interface they provide

[warm canyon]

Wait

[buoyant haven]

I can't really help further than that, I'm not a network guy at all

[warm canyon]

this whole thing doesn't make sense

it can't be a botnet

[buoyant haven]

why

[warm canyon]

the ISP I rerented was only ever connected to the server PC

the hardware was not ever connected to anything other than the server

[buoyant haven]

it is entirely possible that your server is infected

[warm canyon]

I wonder though

I think I DID reconnect some other device after I thought it was a Frontier problem

So how do I check if my server's PC is infected?

[buoyant haven]

do you use windows?

[warm canyon]

Yessir

[buoyant haven]

nvm

[warm canyon]

Windows 10

[buoyant haven]

it doesn't matter

generally when you're infected the best solution is to just reinstall

even if there's a chance you're infected

[warm canyon]

.......reinstall the OS?

[buoyant haven]

it's more effort to find out than to just reinstall

yes

but don't reinstall windows

reinstall a respectable server os

[warm canyon]

I won't, don't even know how lmao

[torpid ore]

e

[warm canyon]

I don't wanna use Linux because Linux makes me cry

even though it is better for server hosting

[buoyant haven]

well windows makes me cry

[torpid ore]

cope

jk

[warm canyon]

Is there a way to confirm if my device is infected?

[torpid ore]

hi pig meat

[buoyant haven]

you can try running some anti virus software but there's no guarantee it'll detect anything, if something's there

hello

[warm canyon]

Any you recommend for that? I have Malwarebytes.

[buoyant haven]

no

I don't use av

[torpid ore]

i have bitdefender

[warm canyon]

Okay then.

[torpid ore]

Okay then.

[warm canyon]

Now, assuming it's not a botnet thing.

What else could it be?

[buoyant haven]

faulty network hardware

on the server side

[warm canyon]

Ruled that out already.

Except for on the PC, but I don't think the PC's hardware being faulty would result in the entire network going out.

So apart from a botnet, is it possible for them to somehow retrieve my IP address behind 2 reverse proxies after moving to an entirely separate ISP on isolated hardware and an isolated network?

[buoyant haven]

any type of malware

my guess was botnet because of the internet activity

brief, consistent outages

sounds like a botnet

also only coming into action randomly after months of being dormant

[warm canyon]

So, I guess to be more clear I should elaborate on how this all started.

[fading turtle]

same

[warm canyon]

Back in October, furry DDoSes my server. I invest in dedicated machine for a month, then go back to home hosting but this time with a VPS set up as a reverse proxy. 2 months ago, I updated my Paper.jar and suddenly prevent-proxy-connections in server.properties started working, and then kept blocking connections through the VPS. I thought it was a VPS issue so I went butt naked for a while. Right before I found out it was the config causing issues, the furry showed back up. I didn't put the server back behind the VPS fast enough and the issues started happening.

So, for a while, I tried investing in a static IP but never could do it. So then I invested in Cloudflare and TCPShield. I reset my IP a bunch of times, and then eventually swapped ISP's and removed the old ISP. Issues still happened there so to test if it was an ISP specific issue, I invested in my old ISP with new hardware, and then put the server on the old ISP on a completely isolated system.

I can't recall but I think it was fine up until I put my other devices on the old ISP after the internet outages kept happening to the ISP they were on.

So, the botnet is really the only working theory I have.

And since I'm not tech savvy enough to confirm that, is it possible I can take one of my devices up to like Best Buy or something and have them scan for that kind of stuff?

[real night]

Have you thought about a crash exploit within minecraft?

[warm canyon]

...

We're not talking about server crashes.

We're talking about network outages.

[real night]

My bad then

[west flame]

Is your server disconnecting or just the minecraft server not allowing connections?

[warm canyon]

The entire network the server is on goes out.

All internet connection to anything, outgoing and incoming.

It's not an ISP issue, it's not a hardware issue.

[west flame]

And this is a VPS right?

[warm canyon]

My server is home hosted, with two reverse proxies, one of which is a VPS and the other is CloudFlare Spectrum.

[west flame]

So you're entire network goes out? Not just your server? (Just clarifying)

[warm canyon]

The entire network, yes.

ONLY the network the server is on.

Right now I have all my other devices connected to the previous ISP it was on.

And those devices are fine.

I think Piggy's botnet theory is the most likely.

I remember the server being fine up until I connected a device from the previous ISP to the isolated network.

[west flame]

Are you sure you're ISP's "DDOS Protection" isn't just

We're being attacked shut everything down!
lol

[warm canyon]

I'm sure.

It's the same conditions on BOTH ISP's.

And we're only out for like, a minute tops, and then we're back up for 3, and then down again for a minute, rinse and repeat.

And it's always at specific time periods.

It's repetitive is the issue.

I got hit 11 times today.

And no it's not just the internet itself being shit.

[west flame]

If its this repetitive... I would look into your hardware... And configurations. (Incase you used the same configs on your VPS)

[warm canyon]

It.

Is. Not.

The hardware.

I've replaced my hardware TWICE.

[west flame]

And configurations

[warm canyon]

I've checked that too.

I used the same configs for my VPS but all the VPS does is forward connections

that's it

I changed which IP it forwards connections to obviously

and that's why I said: "I remember the server being fine up until I connected a device from the previous ISP to the isolated network."

[west flame]

Let's try this... does your server run a panel? Pterodactyl, multicraft etc...?

[warm canyon]

Nope. Just a command prompt and it's down right now while I move it to the dedicated host. If you want me to see if the issues only occur when the server is up, already tried that, and the answer is yes they do.

That's why I'm convinced it's an attack. I've done so much process of elimination, this is the only thing I can't rule out.

And my question up until Piggy commented was how.

The botnet theory is the only one I've got, but I'm not good enough with this to diagnose it so I need someone who can. Should I take any one of my devices up to Best Buy and check? Antivirus scans aren't detecting anything.

[west flame]

Something has to be miss configured then... Also most ISP's won't run 2 networks per residential address so are you sure its not the same network?

[warm canyon]

Something isn't misconfigured. I haven't touched anything and again, the issues only started happening right after that user reappeared. And I'm not having 2 networks from the same ISP. I have two separate ISP's.

[west flame]

I have two separate ISP's.
I'll take your word for it. Like I said though most ISP's won't allow multiple networks at the same residential address that's why I asked.

[warm canyon]

I'm running Time Warner and Frontier. Neither of them had an issue with it.

[west flame]

Is there any logs you can provide or have already provided?

[warm canyon]

Logs of what specifically?

This is where I struggle because no one is specific enough about what I need to provide.

[west flame]

Time Warner and Frontier.
Thats your first mistake but I'll look passed it xD

[warm canyon]

They're my only options in the area lmfao

Frontier is good

500 mbps download and upload

fiber optic

[west flame]

Well you can either have your server log at the time of disconnection, or you can have your router log the time it disconnects and what was happening during its disconnection.

[warm canyon]

Time Warner is shit but the only reason I invested in them alongside Frontier was because they were my initial ISP, and I wanted to rule it out being an ISP issue after the same issues happened on Frontier

[warm canyon]

The most I did was run a command prompt for ping 8.8.8.8 -t > log.txt overnight

and it did show issues

I also have MC server chat logs and console logs which show disconnects, as well as experienced this firsthand

[west flame]

Well your router should show a reasoning for outages by default. So search for its logs and see what you can come up with.

[warm canyon]

That's the one thing I don't have. It has logs but it doesn't record anything other than IP.

[west flame]

Do you have system logs enabled (If your router has them available.)

[warm canyon]

Yes. Like I said, it shows nothing other than which IP's have connected. The logs are shit.

It's a Linksys.

And if it is a botnet, logs probably won't help.

[west flame]

Well the next would be getting your server to log as much detail as possible.

[warm canyon]

The most complicated thing I've done thus far is use WireShark and Windows Event Viewer but that doesn't tell me very much.

[west flame]

How strict is the "repetitivity" of the occurrence?
Like does it happen at the same time, everyday etc?

[warm canyon]

Every day in a specific period of time. The time only changed after I swapped ISP's to the latest one the server is on, and even that's consistent.

[west flame]

Theny I doubt its any type of bot net.

[warm canyon]

The hell is it then, because it's always at specific times?

Today it was between 9:50 Am all the way to 2:44 PM, and then started again at 4:13 PM and didn't stop even until 5 PM when I shut down the server.

[west flame]

Check if your router is restarting your broadband connection daily.

[warm canyon]

And on the old ISP it was always between 6 AM and 12 PM.

[warm canyon]

My router wouldn't be doing this, I was using the same router for months, years before the issues started happening.

[west flame]

Its possible it was added in an update by your ISP

[warm canyon]

Yeah and then the same issues happen after I swap modems and routers twice between two separate ISP's?

Very unlikely.

Like I guarantee you if I put the server back on Frontier, Frontier will start suffering and Time Warner will be fine.

[west flame]

Have you tried it?

[warm canyon]

#minecraft message

[west flame]

So far thats all I can think of.

[warm canyon]

Read this.

The short answer to your question is, I've already done that.

[west flame]

So... if its your network that goes down, Do you know if its broadband, dns, or if your router disables connections/shuts off for a certain amount of time?

[warm canyon]

The entire network goes down. Only when the server is up and/or the ports are open. The internet will go out for a minute or two, then come back up for 2-3 minutes, then go down again for a minute or two, then go up again, rinse and repeat.

All during a specific timespan.

[west flame]

The entire network goes down
Do you know of the three options I provided, what occurs?

[warm canyon]

I mean it could be the latter of the 3, I don't know for certain.

I imagine it's the latter considering the internet goes out.

I've seen the router outright need to be reset in some cases.

And then it will either come back up or need me to come over and fix it.

[west flame]

But the router is on? Which would mean DNS or broadband.
Only other thing I could think of is your server requesting DNS flush/resets and your network not keeping up. But the repetition makes me think otherwise.

[warm canyon]

The router doesn't just outright lose power but at some point it stops receiving signal.

But that's only happened a handful of times.

[west flame]

Do you have a router/modem or router & modem?

[warm canyon]

Back in October before I got a VPS, I'd need to reset the whole router every time.

[warm canyon]

Both.

I have a router and modem.

[west flame]

Yeah at this point I'm stumped.

[warm canyon]

For Frontier they have what's called an ONT, which is something for fiber optic.

[warm canyon]

That's why I said the botnet theory is the only possible explanation, because I THINK the issues only started happening after I connected one of my other devices to the isolated network.

[west flame]

ONT is a box that converts fiber to ethernet.

[warm canyon]

Yes. Frontier is fiber optic.

If it means anything, I was getting hit harder on Frontier up until today where it was 11 times within 5 hours.

[west flame]

When you had your server on a VPS was your network still going down?

[warm canyon]

The server was never on the VPS.

The VPS was a reverse proxy.

It forwarded incoming connections from a free DNS to my local network.

[west flame]

Have you tried moving your server offsite?

[warm canyon]

I'm doing that now, that's what I did back in October before I got the VPS.

[west flame]

I'm doing that now
So the hosts network is going down?

Is your network going down still too at these times?

[warm canyon]

Considering I just finished moving the server to the dedicated provider, no the network is not going down.

My network right now since I shut down the server has been fine.

[west flame]

Ok I would block all connections and let your server run to see if the connections were the issue or not.

[warm canyon]

Already done that test.

With the ports closed and the server up, the internet doesn't go out.

[west flame]

Have you tried a fresh install of the OS and only copying over your mc server files? And reconfigure all the OS by hand?

[warm canyon]

I dunno how to install an OS and I'm 90% sure that isn't the issue.

Something like that wouldn't cause an entire network to go down.

[west flame]

But you said nothing was misconfigured? How did you setup your server in the first place?

[warm canyon]

I have a dedicated windows PC. On it, I have it connected to its own ISP, Time Warner. Then I have the MC server on it.

[west flame]

What version of windows?

[warm canyon]

10. It's not the OS, nothing has changed with that the entire year I've had that PC.

[west flame]

Check if you have any scheduled tasks.

[warm canyon]

In task manager?

I haven't done anything with that. These issues started happening right as that user rejoined.

The same one which also appeared around the time identical issues started happening in October.

[west flame]

search taskschd.msc in run

[warm canyon]

Yeah I guarantee you I haven't done any tasks lmao.

I wouldn't know how.

Yeah there's nothing in there other than OneCore, Windows, and XblGameSave

[west flame]

I really can't think of much else. You say october? When did the exploit patches for log4j come out?

[warm canyon]

It happened in October the same day this particular user showed up, we banned them, and the issues didn't stop until we moved the server over to a dedicated provider.

And IDK what log4j is.

[west flame]

Its a logger library that allowed the use of commands to be ran via any "software" that used it.

[warm canyon]

Well IDK if that would be the issue, let alone if I had it.

[west flame]

Do your ISP's have a bandwidth cap?

[warm canyon]

I don't believe so.

WDYM by that?

Also if that were the issue, why would this issue be happening on both ISP's?

[west flame]

Well both ISP's use to have a cap when I had them 10+ years ago. (Frontier bought verizone's ISP)
Actually I think I had TW more recently but they were bought out by CharterSpectrum

[warm canyon]

Well I doubt a cap is the case if there is any

So right now I think it's safe to assume it's a botnet. Does Best Buy have people to scan for that kind of stuff?

[west flame]

Does Best Buy have people to scan for that kind of stuff
Realistically, no. Most "geek squad" members are there cause they were young and knew how to download apps/software.
You might get 1 or 2 every now and again that knows what they are doing.

[warm canyon]

Well I don't know what my other options are haha.

If you wanna follow along Piggy, this is where I left off: #minecraft message

[west flame]

The timing is a clear indicator its nothing close to botnet. If you're computer was accessed and used by a botnet it would be very clear. (Also wouldn't be crashing your network.)

[buoyant haven]

how does timing exclude a botnet

the timing was one of the main reasons I thought of a botnet

[warm canyon]

^

Was just about to say.

[west flame]

The repetition and timing. A botnet wouldn't have this. It would be constant.

[buoyant haven]

it could be constant

there's absolutely no reason it has to be though

[west flame]

And also the networking.

[buoyant haven]

many attacks aren't constant, repetitive attacks are very common in the field

[warm canyon]

There's also the fact I have CloudFlare which could be mitigating some of it.

[buoyant haven]

repetitive attacks are often used to encourage users to switch servers

e.g. you ddos a server for a few minutes, everyone gets kicked, then it comes back up

they get back on

[warm canyon]

That's EXACTLY what these guys did back in October.

[buoyant haven]

then it goes down again

and over and over

players get annoyed and quit

[warm canyon]

^

[regal sage]

how to add command so that someone can open a menu in deluxe menus?

[buoyant haven]

#general-plugins

[west flame]

@warm canyon try setting your DNS manually rather then it checking for one automatically.

[warm canyon]

Wh-

What do you mean

[buoyant haven]

yapps

what does that have to do with anything

[regal sage]

no one replying there 😦

[west flame]

Well my assumption is that his "windows pc" attempts to get the DNS every time consistently at this time and causes his network to bind.

[warm canyon]

The timezones have shifted.

Originally it was between 7-ish AM to 12 PM

#minecraft message

[west flame]

Well these are the only options I can think of. And your dedicated server isn't having these issues so it has to be linked to your PC/network in some way.
And you already claimed its nothing to do with hardware so I'll take your word but it has to be some form of configuration.

[warm canyon]

The dedicated server is ON THE PC.

On the NETWORK.

And the entire NETWORK the server is ON, loses CONNECTION.

[west flame]

OMG piggy why is this the only channel I can't post images in?

[west flame]

https://i.imgur.com/k0GtLaX.png

[warm canyon]

Dude I haven't even booted up the server on the new host yet.

It's still moving files.

The second comment was today when it was on my PC BEFORE I moved it.

which was like

[west flame]

Then why did you say that lol. Once finished and you let the server run let me know

[warm canyon]

9 hours ago.

[warm canyon]

I should have been more clear I guess.

I don't expect to see more results until tomorrow. Can I friend you and let you know how it goes?

[west flame]

My DM's are open but you can if you'd like.

[warm canyon]

Since I'm like 90% sure the dedicated server provider will work, how should I deal with confirming if it's a botnet?

[west flame]

Logs

[warm canyon]

Which I can get from where?

[warm canyon]

I've been told it may not be a DDoS but instead a mega packet being sent to my network.

[buoyant haven]

to be clear when I say botnet, I mean your server is a part of one

not being attacked by one

[warm canyon]

Guys over at DedicatedMC are telling me my server is suffering from packet amplification.

Not a DDoS or DoS.

[buoyant haven]

idk what that is but gl with that

as I said earlier not a network guy

[lament raft]

everyday

[regal sage]

hey anyone can tell what to do for xray users in server? i mean should i use paper xray mode 2?
it is causing performance issues

so any plugin?

[lament raft]

get a plugin that announce when users get an ores

ore announcer

[regal sage]

hmm ok

[tough haven]

Paper antixray is fine in most cases, cant really imagine plugin performing better

[empty matrix]

If u want u can Google - there's a github gist on the config

[fleet cargo]

Does anyone know a best place to get a 1.7.10 jar because it’s hard to find any. Yeah I can find some vanilla jars easily, some snapshots spigot jars I’ve found on getBukkit.

[uncut tide]

https://howoldisminecraft1710.today/

Minecraft 1.7.10 is 8 years, 1 months, and 5 days old today.

[drifting thistle]

What jars, a paper jar?

[fleet cargo]

I know paper jars don’t exist or does it?

[fleet cargo]

Paper lacks hiding bases, mineshafts, strongholdsc and dungeons, etc.

[tough haven]

If you set it up properly, then it wont show anything

[drifting thistle]

They exist on other sites, but why would you need to use 1.7.10, most pvp servers use 1.8.8 jars with 1.7 support or something, plus like 90% of plugins won't support 1.8

[fleet cargo]

There’s still air blocks underground so you can tell.

[fleet cargo]

Then it acts like 1.8 not 1.7

[tough haven]

You can hide air blocks with antixray mode 2

[drifting thistle]

Are you looking to support only 1.7 players?

[fleet cargo]

True I’m dumb lol

[fleet cargo]

Yes

[empty matrix]

There isn't any way legally but u can Google a jar for it (won't mention the name here)

[fleet cargo]

That’s exactly what I keep finding lmao

[empty matrix]

Iirc paper started on 1.8

And spigot started build tools 1.8

I mean there are large 1.7 servers

[fleet cargo]

Figured

I was using craftbukkit when 1.7 was the latest version.

[empty matrix]

👀

I got mc 2018 lol

[steep void]

Hey does anyone know the eula well enough to help me figure some stuff out?

[fleet cargo]

I’m slightly behind a year or two but yes.

[steep void]

any chance you can jump in vc?

[fleet cargo]

Not atm because I’m on a train

[empty matrix]

Imo 1.8 is good to have since there's public pluigins available for it and the only noticeable diff is breaking blocks while blocking and doing like 16 cps

[timid plover]

reebok, its probably also best to do it in a text channel since other people might come in and correct if there's something wrong said

[empty matrix]

?help

[umbral lance]

FAQ Answer:

» Give the helpers some details
» Ask suitable questions
» Be polite
» Wait

Source

Requested by: dkim19375 • help

[empty matrix]

I'm on phone too

[fleet cargo]

I’m looking to build a small community I don’t really have any issues building plugins myself or with other people I know.

[steep void]

thanks ill ask away is here okay

[empty matrix]

OK but I'm just saying that there aren't many (or depending on your server rules, there aren't any) reasons to use 1.7 instead

If u want to use 1.7,i think you'll have to get it off of you-know-what

Hopefully blitz won't mind that we're discussing this :))))))

[steep void]

So heres a quick summery i was wondering about the eula

Are playtime based ranks allowed? (if they can be bought)
Are kits allowed if the item is obtainable else where? (either in crates or just normally)
Are /fly perms for donors allowed? (saw some servers using timed fly guessing this is a way around the eula)
Are commands like /back, /craft and other utility's allowed for donors?
Are more set homes for donors allowed?
Are player vaults allowed for donors?

[empty matrix]

Playtime based ranks have nothing to do with money, so they don't have to "follow" the paid ranks eula

[steep void]

some servers use play time for donor ranks so you could buy member plus or play for 100 hours and get member plus for free

[empty matrix]

Ohh

I see

[tough haven]

If the ranks have perks with advantage over others and are directly purchaseable then no

[fleet cargo]

What kind of server is it you are making? This can change some of the answers.

[steep void]

Well starting off with a survival server then maybe work on a factions and skyblock then maybe a stripped down server for minigames

i used to run servers from the 1.4.7 to 1.7 days and had a few small ones in the past years so im working on a hub server that was like the ones i used to host back in the good old days when i had 300 players spread across 4 server

[tough haven]

Its kinda simple, just ask yourself "If player A buys this rank/perk will he have advantage over player B that didnt buy it or acquired it by playing?" if the answer is yes, then it breaks EULA

[steep void]

guessing it also has grey areas where technically it isnt but you shouldnt do it

[fading turtle]

Lemme answer your questions:

• I've worked with horizon and dupertrooper on this stuff so.

• player time ranks are allowed, along as they give the same to a player as a bought rank would.

• kits are NOT allowed, these fall under selling mojang/Microsoft owned items for money.

• Fly is generally frowned upon, either give it to everyone, or don't, but is allowed.

• These commands are allowed, but as long as they are also not giving an advantage to anyone.

• Set homes are allowed.

• Player vaults are allowed as long as they don't give an advantage.

[fading turtle]

This is a good mindset @steep void- I understand that you wanna make money off of the server, but honestly if u wanna follow the Eula then just sell cosmetics.

[fleet cargo]

Flying in the lobbies or areas where pvp are disabled is something some servers do.

[fading turtle]

Yes and that's completely fine, but if you give it to someone on let's say skyblock, they have an advantage over someone who doesn't.

[fleet cargo]

Yes

[steep void]

so if a player does /pvp off then allow flying if its not then fly is turned off

[fading turtle]

Depends on that situation-

The*

[fleet cargo]

They shouldn’t have fly if the world they are in they can interact or pvp in the same area.

[fading turtle]

If 2 people are fighting its an advantage. Since you can gtfo of there.

[fleet cargo]

Spawn fly being enabled is fine. You can’t pvp or get away from someone at spawn.

[fading turtle]

But yes as @fleet cargo it's generally an advantage and as such not allowed.

[steep void]

im guessing custom items in kits is not allowed aswell

[fading turtle]

What items would that be?

[fleet cargo]

I’ve given people color code name tags. As opposed to default name tags.

[steep void]

customs swords and things just cosmetic usually or maybe have a effect but can be optained through shops in the server or vote crates aswell

[fading turtle]

You are on a gray area here-

[fleet cargo]

If that custom swords do more damage or something different that vanilla swords can’t do it’s not allowed. But if it’s like a custom particle effect or custom sword name they are allowed.

[fading turtle]

It's technically not allowed since you are using mojangs property as a base, but at the same time are abiding to copyright licensing laws by having your own sword with effects.

[steep void]

ye its kinda like the servers that have kits but say its allowed becouse the items can be obtained through vote crates

[fading turtle]

Those are not allowed

And are breaking the eula

Even if the items are obtainable via normal means

They are selling items owned by mojang

Which is breaking eula

[fleet cargo]

Crates are also not unique and I personally hate them. Just a personal opinion here.

[fading turtle]

We dont use em

[steep void]

so no vote crates? on your server

[fading turtle]

Nope

We have a network and we do encourage people to vote, but they don't get alot out of it

Sometimes a coin (premium currency) drop.

[fleet cargo]

I don’t have vote crates either. But I do sometimes different things that gives some insensitive.

[fading turtle]

Also- crates are technically a way of gambling which is definitely not something u wanna expose people to

[drifting thistle]

reebok join vc

[fleet cargo]

I am outside so I’m gonna listen in.

I used to play on a server back in 2014 that gave creative mode on survival if you paid $100.

[drifting thistle]

[fading turtle]

Lol

[drifting thistle]

a weeb

[fleet cargo]

Word of mouth is the most powerful advertisement.

[fading turtle]

@steep void #showcase message

[crude axle]

[drifting thistle]

Imagine caring about the eula

[torpid ore]

imagine not hacking into the jar to override the eula and not accept it

[warm canyon]

What's that plugin people use to give people in creative WorldEdit without just giving them unlimited block limits? There was this way to set a limit on a WorldEdit operation.

[warm canyon]

NVM I figured it out. Also, anyone know any good places like on Reddit to advertise an MC server?

[drifting thistle]

r/mcservers

[steep void]

Anyone use a AX41-NVME from hetzner for a minecraft server, is it good and how many servers with a player count of 60+ could i run on it or would i be better looking for something else

[tough haven]

The EX line should be better for game servers

[steep void]

I guess ill have a look at that tho it has a setup fee which the Ax ones do not

[tough haven]

Yup its a bit more expensive, but its generally better, even Hetzner states it

[steep void]

what could i expect to run on the EX43 which has i5-12500

[tough haven]

I mean, anything, its up to you

[woeful tree]

I've got a EX42-NVMe I could give you without setup fee.

Basically, I'm cancelling it today so it's all yours if you want to pay me regular monthly charge. (40.80 EUR) ¯_(ツ)_/¯

[timid plover]

:))

[woeful tree]

It's a discontinued machine btw, hence why you can't find it on the website

Finland location

[steep void]

ye i noticed it was discountiued whats specs are on it

[woeful tree]

Do you want the machine?

Oh-

Let me check

[woeful tree]

I've had it since ~Jan 2021

Sorry, March 2021

Renewal date is the 28th of each month.

[steep void]

im fine thanks for the offer tho

[woeful tree]

What turned you away? 😄

[steep void]

the i7 6700 units are on auction for 30ish euros

[woeful tree]

[steep void]

did i get something wrong?

[woeful tree]

You're probably right- mind linking me one you've seen on auction?

[steep void]

https://www.hetzner.com/sb?ram_from=0&ram_to=1

should be the first one

[woeful tree]

First one has less storage.

[steep void]

i mean second i miss read they change all the time

[woeful tree]

That one isn't NVMe, but even then- they are all ~34.15 but I believe that excludes VAT. Let me check.

Nevermind- yeah, Auction is ~6 eur cheaper for you.

[steep void]

what do you recon that it could run like minecraft server wise

[woeful tree]

Yeah- I've had no issues with it.

[steep void]

how many people did you have and how many servers?

[woeful tree]

I've run a huge range of things- I've also been hosting for a friend who has had ~40 players on just fine.

[steep void]

ye that seems good been trying to figure out how meny servers i could push this machine to run

[woeful tree]

Would your interest change if I offer to install and setup Pterodactyl on the machine for you?

As well as PHPMyAdmin if you want it.

[woeful tree]

Just realised I mis-read that- It's i7-6700 I have, not Xeon

@steep void Here is the same machine I have on auction- so it's about ~1 euro more than what I have it for

[steep void]

you able to jump in chat?

[woeful tree]

What do you mean sorry?

Do you mean a VC?

[pseudo condor]

Anyone know how to stress test a minecraft server?

[steep void]

where did you go?

[tough haven]

There are some bot programs, but they are not 100% reliable

[slow imp]

this looks very ... familiar https://www.mc-market.org/resources/24456/

[fading turtle]

To what?

[slow imp]

Hypixel ?

[timid plover]

lmao

that's just a world download of hypixel

and then a copy of their npcs, holograms etc.

[fading turtle]

OHHH OKAY

[woeful tree]

It's actually edited.

[empty matrix]

Still a world download

Haven't looked at it but just trusting blitz

:))

[drifting thistle]

Does anyone know a date placeholder that shows the date like on a calendar? like the month,day,year

[last sierra]

https://api.extendedclip.com/expansions/localtime/

https://docs.oracle.com/en/java/javase/17/docs/api/java.base/java/text/SimpleDateFormat.html

[sour rune]

How do I get the Expansion for TAB with BungeeCord?

I want to display how much players are online in the "Hardcore server"

[last sierra]

https://api.extendedclip.com/expansions/bungeecord/

[sour rune]

OHHH

[tawny flame]

Anyone on Lunar 1.19 encounter an issue where player heads are invisible?

[drifting thistle]

how much network usage (Inbond, Outbond Transfers) Does a paper/spigot 1.19 server use
if the server is 24/7 and have over 800-1000 players active 24/7

[fading turtle]

Depends per server. You'd have to see yourself.

[drifting thistle]

how can i see?

can u tell avrage

plz

it will help me to choose a network plant for server

[fading turtle]

Well with the size of that server, it's a dedicated machine. (vps). I cannot tell you the average, since I don't know. You could ask the host

Maybe they know

[drifting thistle]

ok so can u tell
will 5tb transfer limit be sufficient per month?

[fading turtle]

Should be-

Typical usage (using the default view distance) is usually around 100Mb per hour per connected client.

[drifting thistle]

ohh ok

thnx bro 🙂

[drifting thistle]

are there such pluigns that would allow me to put custom hex colors into tablist?

[last sierra]

which tab plugin are you using?

[timid plover]

they're asking for a plugin that lets you do that. not asking if the plugin they're using has that

[last sierra]

https://github.com/NEZNAMY/TAB

[timid plover]

TAB has this feature

[last sierra]

https://github.com/NEZNAMY/TAB/wiki/How-to-use-RGB-color-codes

[drifting thistle]

thank you

[torpid ore]

[toxic pulsar]

There was a github repo of balanced prices for items can someone direct me to it, cant seem to find it agian.

[timid plover]

hasn't been updated in a long time tho. I believe 1.16 or something like that

getting the link rn. 1 s

[timid plover]

So there was this website which has a github repo https://minecraft-economy-price-guide.net/ and then there's this github repository that automatically generated files for shopgui+ and essentials using that website https://github.com/GiansCode/eco-updater

[toxic pulsar]

Yea i just need it as a guide not much else, big thanks

[timid plover]

no problem

[timid plover]

if you do repost, please keep to 1 channel. thank you

[sour rune]

Gotcha

[steep void]

Ive looked though all the packages that where in my budget for dedi boxes so turns out just the way to do it considering vat into account would be fore me to get a rise 1 in Canada that has the Xeon-E 2136 with 64 gigs of ram and it seems enough for running couple servers and a hub aswell as my website and discord bots

unless theres a slightly better one for the same price i think thats what im gonna have to go for

[neon jacinth]

I would not recommend a rise1

I was unfortunate enough to get stuck with one on a 1 year contract

[steep void]

any recommendations for a different package?

[neon jacinth]

Not sure, I decided to leave dedicated behind and switch to bloom

[steep void]

what where the issues with the rise 1

[neon jacinth]

Performance

[twin dome]

DeluxeTags support

1.19 ?

[shadow parcel]

bloom is amazing

[twin dome]

?

[torpid ore]

im afraid theres no official support for deluxetags 1.19
you have to implement it yourself

[stoic prism]

hey, what do you guys use for server shop?
I used signshops but looking for sth GUI but many options

[steep void]

ShopGUI+

[stoic prism]

ooh it does look better

thanks!

[noble coral]

Anyone know what it means that my FTP quota has exceeded? 😬
Is my server storage full¿

[woeful tree]

ftp quota? what host is limiting you?

[noble coral]

I'm using Stipe (Australian)

Just got a warning as I was adding some files

[steep void]

Anyone use the hetzner AX51-NVME and is it any good for minecraft servers

[shadow parcel]

Id use bloom

[timid plover]

you would

[steep void]

cant afford it currently

[drifting thistle]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/983622219496312852/1002665372568260728/sus.webm

[steep void]

also i need a dedicated server

[empty matrix]

Isn't there a tag for best hosting deal ror smth

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[steep void]

need dedicated server not a vps

[cyan matrix]

if you're on a budget, why does it have to be a dedicated server?
What are your requirements? Are you sure you can't start with a cheap vps and upgrade later?

[steep void]

has to run 3 minecraft servers with 1 hub minimum, player count about 80 each server, some of my discord stuff and migrate a existing website and sql, aswell as some other stuff i have thats just not compatible with some vps tools that are for vps management, the reason im on a budget is i had a vps but it caused to much trouble, and im thinking that the hetzner AX51-NVME which has a ryzen 7 3700x with 64 gb of ram might be what i need but i just need to know it would work well enough to get me out the spot im in

[cyan matrix]

What kind of specs does your current VPS have and what tools do you use that are not compatible with virtual servers? 🤨
The AX51 is good. EX43 would probably offer slightly better performance for minecraft servers, but given how much stuff you plan to run on there, the AX51 is indeed a solid choice.

[steep void]

it was 2.9 to 3.9 ghz 4 cores it had 16 gb of ram which is too small and i need quite a few ports for things, and i have some proprietor stuff that messes with docker containers and vps management protocols used for content management for another project i work on and off with for the past year

[flint depot]

After updating to PaperMC 1.19.1, players keep getting kicked for "Chat Message Validation Failure". I have enabled enforce-secure-profile in the server.properties file. Is anyone experiencing the same issue?

[drifting thistle]

Can Someone help me With a plugin
i need a plugin which can disable commands for players as well as for ops

[drifting thistle]

what's the best way of hiding commands from players? for exemple prevent them from using unwanted commands

[tough haven]

Using properly made plugins

[drifting thistle]

luckperms for ex, when they do /lp it shows them the version and shi, how can I disable that

i disable /lp but they can type whatever after it and it would work

[tough haven]

set perms to false

[drifting thistle]

do you know a plugin that blocks commands even if anything is written after it? exemple: /lp randomtext

[tough haven]

Commandwhitelist, plhidepro etc

[echo gyro]

can you give me some advice on how to do it?

[drifting thistle]

thanks!

[jagged parcel]

#general-plugins

[echo gyro]

okk sorry

[drifting thistle]

I suggest xenyth.net but the dedis are a little pricey

We have two in stock at the moment,

2x E5-2650v2, 128GB ram, 2x4TB HDD, 30TB/mo on 10G, 125/mo
2x E5-2697v4, 384GB ram, 2x1TB SSD, 30TB/mo on 10G, 270/mo

[cunning abyss]

Yo guys, any good minecraft store developer?

[jaunty vine]

webshops?

[cunning abyss]

yeah

[jaunty vine]

I can set those up for a cheap price and I have live examples but sadly it wouldn't be free since assets etc all cost

[cunning abyss]

Can you show me the live examples?

[vague relic]

anyone here playing minecraft

[drifting thistle]

yes

[brittle granite]

Yo

Can anyone tell me how this is made

https://imgur.com/a/aBwNVpq

[chilly flax]

Same stuff as what I use

[brittle granite]

Same method? Oh dam

[chilly flax]

I think so yeah

[brittle granite]

I don't even know where to start tho ;-;

[chilly flax]

They’re probably going to sell it so you could buy it when they release it

[brittle granite]

Like I've heard of the small cubes things, but still no idea what to even do

[brittle granite]

Oh shi

[chilly flax]

I wanted to sell it but if they do it first I ain’t even gon try

[brittle granite]

How come

[chilly flax]

I won’t be back at my pc for a week and I don’t have any connections in the IA community to promote it

[brittle granite]

He isn't a Vendor for McModels

[chilly flax]

Polymart

Just like magiccosmetics

[brittle granite]

Wait does it have to be ItemAdder?

[chilly flax]

No

[brittle granite]

Thank god

[chilly flax]

I haven’t touched that plugin in ages lmao

[brittle granite]

Pffft

But it may do well for McModels

I'll give them an ask

[chilly flax]

Polymart and spigot reach a different audience tho

An audience that probably doesn’t even know mcmodels exists

[toxic pulsar]

I was wondering if there is a mod made that when u take a screenshot it renders one at like 4k or overall higher resolution than your client is running at.

[fading turtle]

Not that I know

[toxic pulsar]

I found resolutioncontrol+ it works alright

[fringe junco]

Guys just a minecraft general question

If I found a guy that wantes to sell his minecon cape, like a friend of mine

Changing pass-world and email after the buy, after many years, he can get the account back?

[fading turtle]

Yes

He can

[empty matrix]

If he has the TID

[fading turtle]

No no

There's a different method

[empty matrix]

Then yes

[fading turtle]

Idk what it is anymore but

[empty matrix]

If not, then no

[fading turtle]

It was used heavily in the OG community recently

[empty matrix]

At least not 100%

[empty matrix]

What was?

[fading turtle]

An exploit or something to get accounts back after they got purchased (without tid)

[empty matrix]

Oh 🤨
Only way I can think of is getting hacked/malware

Hmm

I mean the whole trading accounts thing is illegal anyways

So

[fading turtle]

Yep

True

[empty matrix]

Also I wonder how Alt shops have been

Since migration prob messed with it

I hope itbdid

But I bet those ppl found some other way

[fringe junco]

Got it @fading turtle ! So there is no method for buying safe a account? Like the day that the first user that got the account can get back saying he got hacked?

[fading turtle]

Basicallyyyy

[fringe junco]

thats sad 😦

[tough haven]

If they get access to original email and change the Microsoft account one, then the previous owner cant do anything, since Microsoft can't do anything if you don't know the current email. Happened to me few days ago

[toxic pulsar]

Is there a way to open or do something with minecraft through a website so for example if you click a button on a website it opens minecraft and enters an ip, no right?

[slow imp]

no?

[timid plover]

oh that would be so cool. I remember this being a thing in cs 1.6

and all the old forums having it

this question brought me so many memories

[desert iron]

I'm looking for Box server maps/setups! Pm me ❤️

[toxic pulsar]

I personally would like to see that as a feature in some client

[steep void]

Working on a paper server on linux and using pterodactyl panel and i want to see if its normal to have the server randomly spike up to in cpu usage a bit?

Could also use a little help in voice figuring some stuff out

[toxic pulsar]

Plugins?

[steep void]

Havent got anything installed yet expect essentialsx and spawn, chunky but thats off and spark

and im literally the only one on it just trying to get things set up

[toxic pulsar]

@steep voidWhat kind of cpu usage spikes are you talking about tho

For example I'm afking on my server and my cpu usage looks like so: https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/677257935520399421/1005570401939759154/unknown.png

[steep void]

mines not smooth like that this is when im afk

[toxic pulsar]

Do you have a bad cpu?

[steep void]

3700x

[toxic pulsar]

Thats a bit wierd

I'd recommend asking ur host or going on pteros discord

[steep void]

using hetzner they dont do much hosting wise for support

[toxic pulsar]

Then I'd recommend asking in ptero

[steep void]

im wondering if i got a cpu with a bad boost clock in my unit since they only garantee the base clocks speed

[toxic pulsar]

Are you sure that would alter cpu usage though?

[steep void]

well base is 3.6 so if its turboing properly it might impact performance

[toxic pulsar]

Sounds unlikely to me.

You could try a different java version, maybe flags even

[steep void]

using akars flags

[toxic pulsar]

A thing you could also try is running the server without ptero and watching cpu usage then

[steep void]

this is all just so stressful trying to get it to work correctly

[toxic pulsar]

Well personally I haven't had much experience with aikairs flags so that could be where the spikes come from, unless you tried the default flags already.

[steep void]

switched back to default and its still simular

[toxic pulsar]

Then you can try running a server without ptero to potentially rule it out.

Can you send a screenshot of the cpu usage btw, when it spikes?

[steep void]

its not accurate becouse i have 4 threads assigned but okay

[steep void]

well i guess my choice to go with hetzner was bad had nothing but issues and it seems to be the hardware after looking at all the issues and files turns out they where fine but its the box that ive got

[thin orbit]

could always try ZGC instead of Aikar's Flags if you're on like 1.17+

[steep void]

whats that?

[thin orbit]

so Aikar's flags uses G1GC, which was the best in Java 8/11

but the new cool kid on the block is ZGC, which has essentially zero stop-the-world time, which means your server won't be stopping to process GC stuff while people are trying to play

https://www.reddit.com/r/admincraft/comments/npib9k/comment/i18hemq/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=web2x&context=3

here's a good reddit post about it, and I can send you the flags I use if you'd like

[uncut tide]

G1GC’s impact isn’t large enough to care

[thin orbit]

depends on what you're doing, ZGC is pretty much undoubtedly better for Minecraft with larger heap sizes

[steep void]

same performance as before maybe slightly better but not by much

[thin orbit]

oh I mean it gets a lot better the more stuff your garbage collector has to do

I was seeing a notable improvement with 100+ players on

[steep void]

with the performance im getting from hetzner i would still wouldnt crack 20 players on a 4 cores on a 3700x

[thin orbit]

oh wow

maybe OVH? that's what I use

[steep void]

its got a high cost i cant afford and the fact most of the people i know are us based they say that but i get charged 20% more becouse of vat

[thin orbit]

oh wow, it's pretty much as cheap as it gets here in the US/Canada

[steep void]

also for what they said when i asked them at hetzner "Please note that we can only give you a guarantee for the base clock speed of the server."

[thin orbit]

at least that I've found, we're paying like $90 a month for a 5600x 64GB of RAM

[steep void]

$152.10 for me to get that same package on ovh

[thin orbit]

jeeez man

[steep void]

i know its insane and that 20% tax is on everything sometimes its more

[steep void]

its started to help a bit more actually its just i get this one large random spike now

[thin orbit]

probably for other reasons, if you have spark you can do /spark gc and see the pause times and stuff

[steep void]

what would show that its getting better

[thin orbit]

low stop-the-world times

ah, it's called "ZGC Pauses collector", you want a low ms avg

https://i.imgur.com/sCbrrWd.png