development

[tacit quail]

if i want to use kotlin std-lib whats the import?

[icy shadow]

val size: Int this quite literally implies it cannot change

[tacit quail]

cause I want to use isLetter

[dusty frost]

yeah I know, so it should be var size: Int, which is still a property

[icy shadow]

with gradle or what?

[dusty frost]

pretty sure that's an extension function with no need for an import

[tacit quail]

im just using the intelliJ builder

[icy shadow]

you should have the stdlib already then

[tacit quail]

it doesnt show up

[icy shadow]

if you have access to Char and Int and such you do

[dusty frost]

^

[dusty frost]

are you trying to do it on a Char?

I would not be surprised if you were trying to do it on a String or something

[tacit quail]

i found it i needed to do import java.lang.Character.

[dusty frost]

uh

[tacit quail]

ye

[icy shadow]

but then you need a private setter, and the immutable collection types have to implement a setter (even if it just throws an exception)

[dusty frost]

That does not sound right

Kotlin has its own platform-independent Text stuff under kotlin.text.

[dusty frost]

okay well Kotlin bad, do properties not have a way to say "only getter and no setter"?

[tacit quail]

ooo ill use that instead

it works

[dusty frost]

that is quite literally the correct way to do it lmao

you shouldn't even need to import anythign?!

[icy shadow]

do properties not have a way to say "only getter and no setter"?
that is what val is, but it's misleading

kotlin bad yes

[dusky harness]

no

[tacit quail]

nvm it didnt work

[dusty frost]

hmm okay yeah Kotlin bad

[brittle thunder]

😌

[dusty frost]

dude send some code, you shouldn't need to import anything

it is literally just part of the prelude lmao

[tacit quail]

?paste

[neat pier]

FAQ Answer:

Paste Services
When asking for help with a config/menu/code issue please use our paste bin:
(we prefer it over pastebin.com)
• HelpChat Paste - How To Use

Requested by: encripion • paste

[brittle thunder]

@dusky harness scram

[dusky harness]

😭

[tacit quail]

https://paste.helpch.at/ukayodesah.js

[icy shadow]

yes

[brittle thunder]

:)

[dusty frost]

not how you use it

isLetter is a method on Chars

[dusky harness]

Char#isLetter

[dusty frost]

you do index.isLetter()

[tacit quail]

index is a char

[dusty frost]

.

you're using a raw function call

[icy shadow]

he thought school was only for 1 day! he mad 🤣 😭

[dusty frost]

it's not a raw function

it's a method on Chars

[brittle thunder]

what?

[dusty frost]

so you do Char.isLetter()

[dusky harness]

also why is the text variable outside of the function

🤔

[dusty frost]

global constants? lmao

[tacit quail]

oh tyty that makes more sense

[dusky harness]

yea but he also puts it as a parameter

[dusty frost]

dude have you never once actually used OOP langs before

[dusky harness]

¯_(ツ)_/¯

[brittle thunder]

State bad

[icy shadow]

definitely a c programmer

[dusty frost]

no he didn't, that's not a class

[brittle thunder]

We need more useless pure programs

[tacit quail]

im a C programmer ;-;

[dusty frost]

ONLY?

you've never touched any other language

this is like day 1 OOP lang stuff

[tacit quail]

not in a year

[tacit quail]

💀

[brittle thunder]

We all need to touch a language called grass

😨

[dusty frost]

possibly also one called women

[tacit quail]

https://i.makeagif.com/media/2-26-2016/xexlZh.gif

C when you declare the variable locally

[brittle thunder]

Oh thats covered

[dusty frost]

oh?

[dusky harness]

wdym

[brittle thunder]

😷

[dusty frost]

Yugi gets bitches?

[tacit quail]

no

[dusty frost]

damn

[brittle thunder]

https://tenor.com/view/baby-yoga-baby-yoda-tea-sup-bitches-sup-bitches-gif-15714434

I got haskell

Thank you!

Simon is enough for me

😌

[dusky harness]

its still pinned

💀

[dusty frost]

I have a feeling encripion's countLetters function is going to be easily replaced with a stream lmao

[dusky harness]

stream in kotlin 🤢

[brittle thunder]

as it should be

[dusty frost]

yeah whatever the equivalent is

[dusky harness]

word.count(Char::isLetter)

ez

[dusty frost]

you know what i'm talking about

[icy shadow]

kotlin 🤢

[broken elbow]

YESSS

[brittle thunder]

Or

[dusky harness]

ah

[dusky harness]

@tacit quail

[broken elbow]

I am proud to say it is still pinned in #dev-general

[dusky harness]

also all this time I've read your name as "encryption"

just found out its encripion

[tacit quail]

elaborate?

[dusty frost]

damn I didn't know Kotlin has cute method references with ::

[pulsar night]

Is there a reason that chunks are 16x16 or is it just random numbers

[dusty frost]

what @dusky harness sent

[brittle thunder]

involving many carefully arranged parts or details; detailed and complicated in design and planning.

[dusty frost]

16 is a multiple of 2

[tacit quail]

thats how i pronounce it

[dusky harness]

ah

alr then

👍

[tacit quail]

its just taken on all websites

so i sue thsi

[brittle thunder]

Damn, for how much $

🥸

[pulsar night]

Yeah but why not something like 32x32 or 64x64 why 16 it just seems random

[dusty frost]

if countLetters() just gives the number of letters in a given string, you can replace that with a single method call in the standard library lmao

[tacit quail]

THIS EXISTS?!?!??!?!?

[dusky harness]

Yes

also extension functions > top level functions

[dusty frost]

I mean you want kinda small chunk sizes for performance and stuff

[dusky harness]

less "clutter"

[tacit quail]

https://tenor.com/view/fade-away-oooooooooooo-aga-emoji-crumble-gif-20008708

[brittle thunder]

No, its an elaborate scheme by the US government

[dusty frost]

having lots of small ones is preferable to having a ton of big ones

[tacit quail]

my time

[brittle thunder]

Thats what they have in Area 51

A lot of useful extensions

[dusky harness]

Kotlin has a lot of things

just ask

and you shall receive

😌

[dusty frost]

yeah dude, going from C to Kotlin is kind of a wild trip

[brittle thunder]

that they want to hide from us

[dusty frost]

cause Kotlin is very high level and has a very nice standard library lol

[tacit quail]

im never going back to C

[dusky harness]

🥲

[tacit quail]

it feels like assembly compared to this

[dusty frost]

I mean it pretty much is

[merry knoll]

a lot of useless and bad things too

even though i love kotlin

[dusty frost]

C is painful lol

[dusky harness]

then don't use it 🥴

[merry knoll]

some library stuff they have is just pain

[tacit quail]

this is a whole new world

[dusky harness]

you can use shadow's minimize if you want to reduce jar size too

[pulsar night]

try rust its a lot better

[brittle thunder]

Also, swift is pretty great, feels a lot like kotlin with some extra features

[tacit quail]

i cant describe this feeling

[dusty frost]

Oh I have lmao, it has its own flaws though

[hushed badge]

firstNotNullOfOrNull 🥲

[tacit quail]

swift is fun

[dusty frost]

yes! I quite like Swift man, especially the try? operator

[brittle thunder]

and @dusty frost , I did end up with the exact issue I mentioned about kotlin in swift

[dusky harness]

I have used that before 😌

[dusty frost]

YOUVE USED SWIFT?!

AND YOU DON'T KNOW WHAT A METHOD IS?!

[dusky harness]

💀

[tacit quail]

yeah like 2 years ago

[brittle thunder]

yeaaa

[tacit quail]

i dont remember much except i like it

[dusty frost]

which one? lol

[pulsar night]

it does but its a lot better then C for saftey and java for performance.

[dusky harness]

kotlin is a little similar to swift I've heard

[brittle thunder]

type inference

[dusty frost]

yes but it is a lot harder to write programs in as they are forced to be correct and stuff

[merry knoll]

yes

[brittle thunder]

XCode seems to be pretty shit at traversing code

[dusty frost]

oh yeah

use AppCode

[brittle thunder]

Sometimes you can check callers and it wont really show you

[dusky harness]

ios development requires a mac ☹️

[brittle thunder]

I cant, its for work, I dont have a mac for personal use

[dusty frost]

Swift in general pretty much requires a mac lol

[dusty frost]

ah jeez

Fleet moment coming soon

[pulsar night]

I disagree that is one of the selling points is your writing good code.

[brittle thunder]

Hopefully yeaa

But fleet isnt free either I think?

[dusty frost]

I agree it is good code, my point is that it's hard to write

[merry knoll]

with rust?

[dusky harness]

student :))

[dusty frost]

And a lot of valid programs aren't allowed because they're still defining the rules

[dusky harness]

might be free in the student thing

[tacit quail]

@dusky harness the .count(is letter) works but is there something for words and sentances im assuming not that seems very unecesary

[brittle thunder]

Student license cant be used commercially

[dusty frost]

not sure, it's part of the student thing though probs

[dusky harness]

wdym

[dusky harness]

ah

[merry knoll]

wouldnt say its harder honestly for rust

[dusky harness]

right

forgot

[dusty frost]

they don't have to know ;)

[tacit quail]

to count spaces

and to count certain punctuation

[brittle thunder]

The company knows 🥲 , they check

[dusky harness]

count(Char::isWhitespace) or something like that

or

[tacit quail]

OH MY GOD

[dusty frost]

shit what really

[brittle thunder]

Yea

[dusky harness]

count { it.isLetter || it.isWhitespace }

etc

[tacit quail]

C programming has killed me

[pulsar night]

I disagree its pretty simple when u start to work with he language a bit more

[tacit quail]

for a function right

[dusky harness]

wdym

[dusty frost]

I mean the existence of the borrow checker makes a lot of stuff a pain. I read an entire ass book of ways to make linked lists in Rust because of the borrow checker rules

[dusky harness]

val isValid = char.count { it.isLetter || it.isWhitespace || somethingElse }```

[tacit quail]

i dont make a variable with this i make a expression

[dusty frost]

Like it is definitely harder in a lot of ways for most people, it does make better programs, and trust me I sing the praises of Rust very often, but it is not without faults

[tacit quail]

oh i guess i do make a variable

[dusky harness]

you can still do that

it doesn't matter

variables just hold data

[dusty frost]

and I myself have literally turned to Go to make a compiled quick program lol

it is much easier to not worry about borrow checking

[brittle thunder]

Mhm

[dusky harness]

question
languages like C, Go, Rust, etc - since they compile natively, do you have to be on that OS to compile for that language?

[icy shadow]

oh gee, people talking about rust. it would be a shame if i said something wacky like "rust bad"!

[high edge]

Go good

[icy shadow]

no

[tacit quail]

var total_words = text.count {it.isWhitespace() } is this the right use?

[brittle thunder]

Rust bad

[icy shadow]

you can usually cross compile

or at least you can with go

[dusty frost]

no, cross compliation is a thing

LLVM and GCC do it

[brittle thunder]

All languages except Assembly bad

Too slow

[icy shadow]

ummm

[brittle thunder]

Inefficient

[dusky harness]

Uhhh

yes but ```kt
val totalWords = text.count(Char::isWhitespace)

[dusty frost]

see that's kind of what I'm saying lol, I quite like Rust and I think it is really doing some great work in making programs a lot more correct

but holy shit it's pretty hard to use

[brittle thunder]

Have you tried switching from C to Circuit Boards

[tacit quail]

oh ty i was questioning cause for is letter i was using that

[brittle thunder]

Great transition

[merry knoll]

leave languages, just design a chip for what you want to do

[brittle thunder]

Yes!

[dusty frost]

at least to my experience, I am a lot more used to thinking in easily mutable languages with a garbage collector lmao

[dusky harness]

wait but you'd still have 3 executables

right?

one for mac, linux, and windows

[dusty frost]

there are many more architectures

and you generally choose your target

[merry knoll]

this

[tacit quail]

@dusky harness so is there a way i can do this for punctuation but exclude certain types of punctuation or do i do it the old fashion way with if statements?

[dusty frost]

you can write your own little filter method and use that

or check if each char is in a certain Set

there are a lot of high level ways lol

[tacit quail]

My brother in christ i know nothing about kotlin syntax

[dusty frost]

Char::isWhitespace is literally just referencing the extension function called isWhitespace

you could just make your own filter function

that takes a char and returns true/false based on if it's good

[dusky harness]

you can do ```kt
val punctuation = setOf('!', ',', '.')
val stuff = word.count(punctuation::contains) // or count { it in punctuation }

[dusty frost]

see bam that was one of the things I said too

[tacit quail]

so do this for punctuation?

[dusty frost]

yeah don't worry about that right now

[dusty frost]

do what this says

that's more clear and easier

[tacit quail]

ily

[merry knoll]

oh god inline

[dusky harness]

I can't spell

typo

[dusty frost]

yeah he spelled it wrong lmao

[tacit quail]

o i got it

lmao

[errant kraken]

Why am I getting this error even thought I am on 1.18.2 and the Y level should go down to -64? https://www.toptal.com/developers/hastebin/uxuqupexum.properties

[dusky harness]

the terrain update stuff was in 1.19

I think

unless im mixing up 1.17 and 1.18

I'm mixing those up

right

A

[broken elbow]

you are

[dusky harness]

okay

[dusty frost]

1.18 is the terrain

[dusty frost]

that's a plugin issue with KrownedStacker

gotta go ask them

[errant kraken]

I am the dev

[dusky harness]

💀

[errant kraken]

idk what's the issue

[dusty frost]

oh lol

at io.github.idoomful.bukkitutils.statics.MaterialUtils.getBlocksInChunk(MaterialUtils.java:79) ~[KrownedStacker-1.0.0 (2).jar:?] what's that

[errant kraken]

Block block = chunk.getBlock(x, y, z);

apparently it can't get blocks at Y -1

[broken elbow]

ugh

you're getting blocks from a chunk

not from a world

d;spigot Chunk#getBLock

[dusty frost]

yeah but chunks should be 384 blocks tall

[uneven lantern]

org.bukkit.Chunk#getBlock

@NotNull
Block getBlock(int x, int y, int z)```

Description:

Gets a block from this chunk

Returns:

the Block

Parameters:

x - 0-15
y - world minHeight (inclusive)
z - 0-15

Requested by: BlitzOffline • spigot

[dusty frost]

his thing says 0-256

but chunks are 384 tall

[broken elbow]

oh

I see

[dusty frost]

cause it goes -64-320

[broken elbow]

yeah yeah I know

[dusty frost]

kinda weird

[broken elbow]

I Didn't realise what version they were on

[dusty frost]

i guess you could go look at the code for org.bukkit.craftbukkit.v1_18_R2.CraftChunk.validateChunkCoordinates lol

[broken elbow]

was literally on my way looking for that

[dusty frost]

damn Blitz you dedicated

good work, keep it up

[broken elbow]

xD

[dusky harness]

it just goes back to nms chunk
getminheight and getmaxheight

[broken elbow]

it has its min and max provided thru parameters.

[broken elbow]

wasn't there some sort of setting for world height in server.properties?

maybe there's some conflict with that?

[dusky harness]

which then goes to LevelHeightAccessor#getMinBuildHeight and LevelHeightAccessor#getMaxBuildHeight

[broken elbow]

btw what are you using to see all this?

[dusky harness]

paperweight

[dusky harness]

    int getMinBuildHeight();

    default int getMaxBuildHeight() {
        return this.getMinBuildHeight() + this.getHeight();
    }

[broken elbow]

oh. I went to the spigot hub

[errant kraken]

I can't find the source code

[broken elbow]

nope. doesn't seem to be there. at least not on 1.19

[dusky harness]

seems to trace back to DimensionType

    protected static final DimensionType DEFAULT_OVERWORLD = create(OptionalLong.empty(), true, false, false, true, 1.0D, false, false, true, false, true, -64, 384, 384, BlockTags.INFINIBURN_OVERWORLD, OVERWORLD_EFFECTS, 0.0F);

the -64 is minimumY

so

¯_(ツ)_/¯

[broken elbow]

wait. did height change in the nether?

[dusky harness]

nope

[broken elbow]

and end?

[dusky harness]

 protected static final DimensionType DEFAULT_NETHER = create(OptionalLong.of(18000L), false, true, true, false, 8.0D, false, true, false, true, false, 0, 256, 128, BlockTags.INFINIBURN_NETHER, NETHER_EFFECTS, 0.1F);
    protected static final DimensionType DEFAULT_END = create(OptionalLong.of(6000L), false, false, false, false, 1.0D, true, false, false, false, true, 0, 256, 256, BlockTags.INFINIBURN_END, END_EFFECTS, 0.0F);

nope

[broken elbow]

@errant kraken is the world you got the chunk in maybe an end world or a nether world?

[dusky harness]

ooh maybe

👀

[errant kraken]

idk what world this error came from, I'll have to ask

apparently the nether doesn't go below Y 0

[dusty frost]

yeah it doesn't

[broken elbow]

there we go

[lyric gyro]

your mum

[broken elbow]

was walking down the street

[lyric gyro]

fuck you automod

[stuck hearth]

Fuck up

[errant kraken]

How do I pass an ItemStack to HoverEvent so I can show it in chat?

I've tried this but it shows air ```
final JSONObject itemJSON = new JSONObject(dyn.getOnHover().getItem().serialize());
final BaseComponent[] componentItem = new BaseComponent[] { new TextComponent(itemJSON.toJSONString())};

hover = new HoverEvent(HoverEvent.Action.SHOW_ITEM, componentItem);```

[round smelt]

Hello everyone !
I have a little problem with Guilds plugin ...

Here is my error:

java.lang.NullPointerException: Cannot invoke "me.glaremasters.guilds.api.GuildsAPI.getGuild(org.bukkit.OfflinePlayer)" because the return value of "me.glaremasters.guilds.Guilds.getApi()" is null

How can this be null ? 🤔

Some clarifications: I getthe API after the server has loaded, being careful that everything is loaded

[hushed badge]

are u shading the api by any chance

[round smelt]

ah f. yes i am

thank you ^^"

[worn jasper]

Uhm sooo, an issue I am having rn, is I have this method to store data:

public void storeCache() {
  var startTime = System.currentTimeMillis();
  var players = Bukkit.getOnlinePlayers();
  var stats = cache.getStatistics();
  for (var p : players) {
    var user = cache.getUsers().get(p);
    if (user != null) json.getFileData().insert("data." + p.getUniqueId(), SerialManager.toString(user));
  }
  json.getFileData().insert("stats.generators-placed", stats.getPlacedGenerators());
  json.set("stats.lockers-placed", stats.getPlacedLockers());
  var endTime = System.currentTimeMillis();
  var difference = (endTime - startTime);
  getLogger().info("Successfully synced cache with the database. It took a total of " + difference + "ms (" + (difference / 1000) + "s)");
  getLogger().info("Users: " + json.singleLayerKeySet("data").size() + " | File size: " + json.getFile().length() + " bytes | Online Players: " + Bukkit.getOnlinePlayers().size());
}

And the thing is, it basically deletes all the data, and only sets the data for the players online. Like, should it behave like this? Cause rn, it's deleting data of offline users.... shouldn't it just set the data it needs, without touching the other keys? For context, I am using a library called SimplixStorage.

[hushed badge]

👍

[round smelt]

Can I ask you to help me remove this shading please ?
I don't know why he's shading everythink even tho I don't want to

[hushed badge]

what build tool are u using

[round smelt]

Maven

[hushed badge]

add <scope>provided</scope> to the dependency i believe

[round smelt]

So that's what this means xDD

Thank you so much ^^'

[wary dust]

Has anyone used partitions with lettuce

if so could you please explain how it works and how to use it cus the docs and examples are so confusing

[tacit quail]

I want to round the result of the equation in the last line to an Int how could i go about doing that?

got it i used .roundToInt()

[leaden sinew]

Hi,
I'm having an issue with my server where it crashes. There isn't a crash report, just warnings in the console about tasks not disabling.
This seems to be the class causing it, and it seems to have something to do with chunks loading. If anyone has any idea I would really appreciate it. Thanks!
https://github.com/Fisher2911/SkyblockLevels/blob/master/src/main/java/io/github/fisher2911/skyblocklevels/entity/EntityManager.java

(I know some of it is a mess, if you want to point out what I could improve I would appreciate that too)

Also please ping me if you respond

[keen quarry]

Is there a more simple way of getting a players "session online" time? Instead of saving the time a player logged on and then taking that time agains the current time?

[torpid raft]

dont think so

[keen quarry]

Alright

[torpid raft]

not hard to just maintain a map of players with their login times though

[keen quarry]

And do i need to save that to a file or can i like save it temporarly?

[spark orbit]

nvm got it

[torpid raft]

you can definitely save it temporarily, if you just need the current session time i see no reason to store login timestamps in a file

[keen quarry]

Yeah... but how?

[torpid raft]

you can use a Map<UUID, Long>

type of map probably doesnt matter much but if you're accessing it async make sure it's thread safe

[keen quarry]

Alright, will look into it! Thanks!

[worn jasper]

any ideas here? (sorry for bumping this out)

[topaz gust]

Seems the API you are using is old or just shit, why haven’t you made your own? they aren’t too difficult for simple stuff you can even just use .yml (although not advised for large amounts of data)

[leaden sinew]

Any ideas?

[sharp hemlock]

https://img.olziedev.com/iW775151H757511ay_v.png currently updating a plugin from spigot 1.16.5, to 1.18.2. Whats the method to set their position and get their yaw/pitch using nms?

[worn jasper]

Fair enough, havent created one cause I have no idea where to start

And I dont want to messup anything since this is being used in an server with 80+ players

[graceful hedge]

Got any errors or stacktraces we can follow? (like the warnings)

[broken elbow]

can someone link me the gist that had methods to serialize itemstacks to base64 please?

[dense drift]

https://gist.github.com/graywolf336/8153678

[broken elbow]

thank you ❤️

[dense drift]

made a faq ?base64-serialization

[broken elbow]

nice

btw Gson is available in spigot 1.17-1.19 correct?

idk where I can check this

other than importing every spigot version and checking

[hushed badge]

yes it is

gson has been in since 1.8

[broken elbow]

cool cool. just making sure. I heard some lib was removed in newer versions but I don't remember what. I assumed it wasn't gson since it showed up with the 1.19 api

[hushed badge]

I believe they're removing apache commons

[icy shadow]

good I hate apache

[dense drift]

Ye

[errant kraken]

does anyone have some good Java tutorials for beginners?

[neat pier]

FAQ Answer:

Online Courses:
Online courses are also great for learning java. Some websites that offer them are:

• Coursera - Free unless you want a certificate
• PluralSight - Great courses from what I've seen. Mostly Paid
• Udemy - Never used them myself but they seem to all or at least most be paid.
  My first ever course was one from Coursera. - I can say it was pretty good at introducing me to the programming world as a whole not just java.

Oracle Docs:
Oracle docs can help a lot at learning and understanding java:

• Start with this,
• Breeze through this (skipping stuff that doesn't seem relevant like bitwise operators),
• Hit this.
  They're the first three from this larger thing which you should definitely go through overall. But those three should be enough for slightly better understanding of what is happening here without feeling like a huge time sink.
  That one is a small part of this larger site wherein "Essential Java Classes" and "Collections" also have good useful stuff

Other services:
Some other cool services that will help you learn java are:

• SoloLearn
• W3Schools
• JetBrains Academy

As you can see there are plenty of good ways to learn as long as you're willing to invest the time. Have fun learning!

Requested by: BlitzOffline • learn-java

[high edge]

Close enough

[solemn ocean]

I remember having this issue, I have a different damage system so actually I deal damage with player.damage when I need to kill a player and on the damage event i check if its a precise number I kill the player without canceling the damage otherwise the health is removed but not from the actual healthbar infact i cancel the damage event, the issue is that if I put the entityDamager in the player.damage(60,entityDamager) the damage is somehow 31.0

[dense galleon]

Weird question but

How do I open a jar file so that.. the program inside it launches?

It opens as a zip file by default

I am looking through program files/java/jdk-17.0.3.1/bin but I can't find any exe that works

[dusty frost]

you'd need java.exe or javaw.exe, and you'd need to do like java -jar this_is_jar.jar to run it

[dense galleon]

On my old computer I could just do "open with... java something"

Why do I have to do all that now

[dusty frost]

Windows bad, I suppose?

[dense galleon]

Ffs

[viral moth]

you have to do it with command prompt, maybe the old button was a shortcut?

[dense galleon]

In my entire life I opened jar files on every single computers just by double clicking on it

What the hell 😢

Just confused honestly

[viral moth]

sadge

[winged pebble]

You just have to make it an executable jar instead of just a jar

[lyric gyro]

jpackage relieved

[wintry grove]

thats another reason for me to not to update to windows 11

good

[broken elbow]

I mean there's no good reason to update at all xD

also have you guys heard the leaks? apparently windows 12 will be a thing

[stuck hearth]

Windows11 has worked fine for me

[lyric gyro]

It hasn't worked at all for me

Because I never installed it

[broken elbow]

❤️

[smoky hound]

Is there any way to make minimessage work with legacy codes? I'm trying to add support for minimessage without breaking everything so people have time to adjust

[steep dragon]

no

your best bet is some sort of string substitution (i.e. replacing all &a with <red> or something), but it won't be a 100% match because of the leaky nature of the legacy format

[smoky hound]

alr thats what I was gonna end up doing :/

thansk

[stuck canopy]

        Statement statement = getConnection().createStatement();

        String sql = "CREATE TABLE IF NOT EXISTS minions(location varchar(36) primary key, level int, generated int, skin int, fuel int, shipping int, upgrade int, upgrade2 int, chest int, currentResources int)";

        statement.execute(sql);

        statement.close();

    }```

what am I doing wrong here

[cinder forum]

telling whats wrong would be helpfuol

[warm steppe]

not using hikaricp

[dense drift]

It even throws an exception in the newest versions if you have a legacy format

[smoky hound]

yea lol

[dense drift]

What I did for my plugin was to give them a tool to update the config

People gotta move forward

A good example that I like to use is something like this &6&LE&C&LW&D&LA&B&LR&A&LD&E&LS. -
<b><gold>E<red>W<light_purple>A<aqua>R<green>D<yellow>S</b> I think we can both agree that the first one is totally impossible to read

[smoky hound]

Yea, I'm thinking more for players who aren't gonna be immediately used to minimessage, so I want to provide a way to have a transition period where both &6 and <gold> work

[torpid raft]

<nerd>

[dense drift]

You can do that somehow.. deserialize using legacy serializer, serialize with mini and then deserialize again with mini, but 😬

[steep dragon]

you can migrate people's config for them by using legacy deserializer chained into a minimessage serializer (remember it works both ways), which is what paper did recently

[steep dragon]

that won't work because the serializer will escape pre-existing tags

[dense drift]

Hmm, fair

[smoky hound]

Yea I tested that and had issues, but its working enough for now to just replace &1 with <dark_blue> lol

[rigid mountain]

Hey guys, quick question.

So i have made a custom player class: https://paste.helpch.at/mijumohevo.java
and then a team class: https://paste.helpch.at/orubofumey.cs

My issue is im saving with Mongo, and im getting circular refrencing on the SPlayer instance inside of the team class. I assume this is because i have an instance of the team class inside of the sPlayer class, but i need to be able to get the player's team from the instance. How can i do that?

[lyric gyro]

it's onEnable, not OnEnable, lowercase o

[cinder forum]

ignnore this warning

send startup log

?startuplog

[neat pier]

FAQ Answer:

Startup Log Location
Your latest startup log can be found in the logs folder of your
server directory, labeled as latest.log.
Please copy the contents and paste them to a paste service.
Type ?paste for more information.

Requested by: xdd • startuplog

FAQ Answer:

Paste Services
When asking for help with a config/menu/code issue please use our paste bin:
(we prefer it over pastebin.com)
• HelpChat Paste - How To Use

Requested by: magz • paste

[rigid mountain]

Anyone?

[mental cypress]

Why do you need an instance of the team from their class? Can't you just have a method in the team to get the player?

[random kestrel]

Can you DM me, please?

[mental cypress]

I'd prefer not. If you have a question just ask it here. That way if there's a solution found, others will be able to reference it if they have a similar issue!

[random kestrel]

This is a bit of a non-public question, so it is necessary in DM

Not like “How to…”

[mental cypress]

You can shoot a message to Barry or wait on someone else who might have an answer. I gotta get back to work.

[rigid mountain]

I guess i could, but what if i wanted to get a player's team?

I guess i could just do a string name

[random kestrel]

Who is Barry?

[rigid mountain]

bot

[random kestrel]

lol why

Do you have email? @mental cypress

[rigid mountain]

error?

[lyric gyro]

You can send a message to Barry and it will be received by the admins, @hurtlay

[random kestrel]

Well ok

[cinder forum]

send plugin yml

in the log

you sent

there is nothing trying to enable plugin Test2

can you send the file

you are putting in plugins folder

aight

weird, what if you restart and not reload?

oh wait nvm

[dusky harness]

Ur main in plugin.yml doesn't match

Up here it's Test

But here it's Test2

[dusky harness]

.

Send the main class

? Paste

?paste

[neat pier]

FAQ Answer:

Paste Services
When asking for help with a config/menu/code issue please use our paste bin:
(we prefer it over pastebin.com)
• HelpChat Paste - How To Use

Requested by: dkim19375 • paste

[dusky harness]

Oh u changed it

Wait what's the issue?

Since in the log above

It enqvles

Enables

Oh I see

Hmm

Try getLogger().info("test")

The maybe broadcast doesn't work until the server is enabled

I'll get on my pcin half an hour and see exactly what it does

Hmm

In chat?or u mean console

How did you get on the server before the server started

In onEnable no players will be on the server so the logger will work

And is better since it prefixes it with [Test2] :))

Maybe spigot changed it

Ig

Logger > print/broadcast only to console

Usually

Unless for some case u don't want the preifx

Reload :/

[lyric gyro]

cause that's not a thing?

ah that's what you're doing

thought you were typing in broadcastmsg lmao

[tacit quail]

there is something like this im pretty sure

not sure if you have to use the loop

are you able to do * users

when specifying the users

player.*

not sure the syntax

but when specifying certain player

are you able to do that?

[plush stirrup]

Could someone help me through looping through this?

data:
  fbfbfe36-a993-410f-abc9-85ea7fcf55b4: '&#000000test'```

[tacit quail]

you have to be more specific than "looping through this"

[plush stirrup]

Basically, I want to loop through my yaml file to get the player name from the output of the players command /realname (nick)

[tacit quail]

so just use a loop until you find the matching UUID?

[plush stirrup]

Well, the realname command is to find the player from the nick

i need to loop through each value to find the right one, but i want to get the key to then translate it into a player name

[tacit quail]

if variableForPlayerCommandInput == current row in the config
return the value that the UUID has as a string
``` thats how i would do it

idk syntax 😂

[tacit quail]

the value of player when you get it is given as a UUID by default so you're good there

[viral moth]

you could potentially run into the issue that w players have the same nick name

what i would do is have 2 maps
first map: String -> List<UUID> | nickname to list of player UUIDs (since there could be 2 people with the same nick name)
second map: UUID -> String | player UUID to real name

yes you could skip the 2 map process and just have a String -> List<String> map but i'd typically use it in more than one place and having both maps might be useful. as for loading the yml to the maps, just loop through the keys and get the corresponding value and load it

you could also call Bukkit.getPlayer(uuid).getName() instead of the second map, ill leave it up to you tho

[stuck hearth]

I would just not allow players to share the same nickname.

Seems like a lot of hassle

[viral moth]

yeah but the whole idea of a nickname is to be someone else essentially lol

[viral moth]

also when loading the maps make sure to strip the color off the nick names as that would be a whole other headache

[plush stirrup]

Thx guys!

[high edge]

You shouldn't allow same nicks, kinda makes it easy to impersonate people

[random kestrel]

@mental cypress, https://github.com/PlaceholderAPI/Javascript-Expansion/pull/67 can you accept?

At least this will protect the server owners a little from exploit

[random kestrel]

^ @grim oasis, what is needed for acceptance?

[high edge]

Why would that even be needed since it's permission based?

[random kestrel]

Cuz this is the only way to protect the dedicated server where this expansion is located

[high edge]

Huh?

[random kestrel]

Just read it

[high edge]

Yea but how would you "exploit" it, if the command is permission based, if the people you've given permission for the command exploit stuff, then you kind of deserve it..

[random kestrel]

People hack accounts with the perms to do this and use it for selfish purposes

[sterile hinge]

that's not an exploit then

[grim oasis]

honestly just get rid of op

people are gonna hack the ops are exploit your server

[grim oasis]

don't ping me #rules

[random kestrel]

And?

[stuck canopy]

help

https://paste.helpch.at/edumaqacuv.md

        Statement statement = getConnection().createStatement();

        String sql = "CREATE TABLE IF NOT EXISTS minions(location varchar(36) primary key, level int, generated int, skin int, fuel int, shipping int, upgrade int, upgrade2 int, chest int, currentResources int)";

        statement.execute(sql);

        statement.close();

    }```

[worn jasper]

uhm, so, currently I am using this to get an armorstand by it's id and delete it.

ArmorStand as = (ArmorStand) Bukkit.getEntity(uuid);
if (as != null) as.remove();

The question is, does Bukkit.getEntity() only check loaded chunks? If so, that would explain the issues I am having.

[broken elbow]

I thought the docs mentioned it but yeah I'm fairly certain it only gets loaded entities aka entities from loaded chunks

[worn jasper]

Hmm, okay, so, I would have to load those chunks that I aim for right?

or is there another better way of doing it?

[sterile hinge]

I mean otherwise the server would need to load all chunks until it finds an entity with that uuid

[worn jasper]

I mean, if I know the exact location, I could load the chunk, remove it, and unload it right?

[broken elbow]

also if this is a special entity handled by you, you could remove it on chunk unload from the world, store data you need about it and then either spawn it back when chunk is loaded or don't spawn it at all if you want to remove it

[sterile hinge]

that sounds like a good approach

(you should use async chunk loading when using paper though)

[worn jasper]

could you provide the docs for it?

or wait

what's the command again

lol

[broken elbow]

its d;

[worn jasper]

me not understand how the command works, will just use old google

[sterile hinge]

there are several World#getChunkAtAsync methods

[broken elbow]

d;paper World#getChunkAtAsync

[uneven lantern]

org.bukkit.World#getChunkAtAsync

@NotNull
default CompletableFuture<Chunk> getChunkAtAsync(int x, int z)```

Description:

Requests a Chunk to be loaded at the given coordinates This method makes no guarantee on how fast the chunk will load, and will return the chunk to the callback at a later time. You should use this method if you need a chunk but do not need it immediately, and you wish to let the server control the speed of chunk loads, keeping performance in mind. The future will always be executed synchronously on the main Server Thread.

Returns:

Future that will resolve when the chunk is loaded

Parameters:

x - X Coord
z - Z Coord

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[worn jasper]

I mean, but that's to get the chunk, not load it right?

[broken elbow]

Requests a Chunk to be loaded at the given coordinates

[worn jasper]

OH

makes sense, what about unload?

[broken elbow]

d;paper World#unloadChunk

[uneven lantern]

org.bukkit.World#unloadChunk

boolean unloadChunk(@NotNull @NotNull Chunk chunk)```

Description:

Safely unloads and saves the Chunk at the specified coordinates

This method is analogous to unloadChunk(int, int, boolean) where save is true.

Returns:

true if the chunk has unloaded successfully, otherwise false

Parameters:

chunk - the chunk to unload

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[sterile hinge]

the server does that by itself

[broken elbow]

oh

[worn jasper]

wait wut

[sterile hinge]

unless you specifically set a ticket

[worn jasper]

how exactly does the server know "ok, time to unload this"

?

Also, what happens if I request several times the same chunk to be loaded async? Does it have some type of queue?

[sterile hinge]

the server knows where the players are, and the chunks out of view distance can be unloaded

that's all the ticket system stuff

[worn jasper]

so, it loads it for a few seconds?

[sterile hinge]

it will check if there's already a request I assume, but it should be safe

[sterile hinge]

yes

[worn jasper]

Okay, also, so, I can send the request, but how would I wait for it to be completed to execute the rest.

Since the rest of the code requires the chunk to be loaded.

[sterile hinge]

there are methods that return a CompletableFuture and there are methods that take a Consumer

[worn jasper]

never actually worked with CompletableFuture

[sterile hinge]

so instead of waiting in terms of blocking, you can just "listen" to the completion of the future or let the server deal with running your consumer

[worn jasper]

oof deprecated

[worn jasper]

did you meant this? ^^ I am actually very confused rn

[sterile hinge]

does that even compile? I'd assume that you'd need to specify if you want to call the "new" method that takes a consumer or if you want to use the "old" method that takes the pre java 8 World.ChunkLoadCallback

[worn jasper]

ye it does have both options

but idk why the IDE just uses the second

[sterile hinge]

you can just extract it to a variable, like
Consumer<Chunk> consumer = chunk -> { /*do cool things here */};

passing that variable to the method should work fine then and use the proper method

[worn jasper]

big bruh

this ide do be dumb

oh ok

I am dumb

not ide

[winged pebble]

As my professor used to say, "If you're blaming the code/computer, you're making at least 2 mistakes"

[edgy lintel]

your professor is right
we should be programming on paper

[merry knoll]

they used to make us code on notepad on first year (especially on exams etc)

i still dont know why

[broken elbow]

the semester that just ended, all the exams I took were on paper...

it was a pain

[pulsar ferry]

Coding on paper in the beginning is nice to help you understand what your code does

[broken elbow]

2-3 pages to write a queue class lmao.

[broken elbow]

I did it for 4 years in my highschooll.... I think I got enough of that lmao

[merry knoll]

first years i understand, but i dont see why care about syntax then

pseudo code on paper makes sense to understand the logic

[broken elbow]

nah. I had to write entire programs.

had to make queue, stack, they also gave us a phrase for example and then we had to write a program using what we learnt during our OOP class. it was something like, someone eats a pealed apple and some superhero flies and something else

xD

[dusty frost]

oh man my first programming class was all in Notepad for like HTML/CSS/JS stuff

[merry knoll]

this basically

but it was for java for me

[broken elbow]

we've done c#. no web this year

[dusty frost]

it's really interesting to see how people learn to code, cause I've been programming for like 10 years now, so like, some people literally just kept using notepad and javac for Java and everything

I was like "dude, imagine the time savings you'll have when your IDE can tell you while you're coding what minor syntax errors you have"

[merry knoll]

nothing beats drjava

[broken elbow]

yeah

[dusty frost]

it was insane, they would spend more time tabbing out, javacing, going back to add a semicolon, and then repeating than they were actually coding

[broken elbow]

I've only been coding for 1 year before uni and I'm not that good but still. damn it was a pain

I had to take 3 exams at one of my classes... all on paper, all 6+ pages

[dusty frost]

then I introduced all my friend group to IntelliJ/PyCharm and now they're all addicts

[merry knoll]

i personally didnt mind the paper exam thingy

as long as they dont grade on exact syntax

[pulsar ferry]

I did Java in fucking Netbeans in school 🥲

[merry knoll]

with pseudo code paper is quite fine

[dusty frost]

Paper exams are good for like, asking questions about understanding and stuff

but if you want to test coding, just have them code???

[broken elbow]

at least you did java

[merry knoll]

this basically and for following code

as in "whats the output" type questions

in first year especially

[dusty frost]

every single test in my software engineering class in university was wishy-washy short answer questions, no actual help with, ya know, software engineering, or any practice or anything

[merry knoll]

afterwards, they dont teach much in languages anyway

[dusty frost]

fucking hate those, it's always some dumb like C-style throwback gotcha of the order of increment and decrement operators

[merry knoll]

its more design patterns etc

[merry knoll]

i dont mind em, but hate it when they throw an exception in it

as a gotcha

or rather a compile error

like please

[dusty frost]

I mean they're good for like, maybe first year students?

but guess what, in the real world, you can just run your fucking code lmao

try-it-and-see is the motto

[merry knoll]

i disagree to a certain extend

a lot of times you need to learn someone elses code

so i think its still somewhat relevant

[dusty frost]

yeah so you can run their code?

easy peasy

it's okay to pick up like the absolute basics of language syntax and stuff like if statements

[merry knoll]

not always, you can test and such

[dusty frost]

but it very quickly devolves into dumb pedantry like int x = 2; x--; --x; x++; and then it's like "waht is the value of x as each line gets executed or something

[dusty frost]

when can you not run code you're trying to learn?

i can't think of any scenarios

[merry knoll]

this i dont agree with myself either

but i feel like its easy to say that its useless right now

since your brain kinda gets wired to read it after a while

[dusty frost]

if people are writing code like that, they shouldn't be

that doesn't teach you anything useful

[merry knoll]

i dont feel like i can comment that it was useless with my current knowledge

[edgy lintel]

I call it the fall of education

[merry knoll]

i feel like making them do it once on notepad is semi usefull still

but like constantly i see no point

[edgy lintel]

Don’t worry these ridiculous demands exist everywhere I was asked to code on a paper

[merry knoll]

just so they know how to use the console without an ide

[dusty frost]

what lol? do you often encounter obtuse pre/postfix increment/decrement conundrums in your real code?

[merry knoll]

no, what i meant is i cant comment much as to if it helped to wire my brain to be able to read it or not

if that makes sense

i see it as pointless now, but thats with hindsight

[dusty frost]

regardless, that isn't code you encounter

[merry knoll]

ofc not

[dusty frost]

i would be down with like real useful coding encounters

[merry knoll]

you encounter shit like that

[dusty frost]

but this dumb contrived shit is awful

[merry knoll]

once in couple of years tops

and you solve it with a google and you are done

[dusty frost]

and i'd rather people be learning how to read real code lmao

[merry knoll]

this

[dusty frost]

maybe it's cause i was self taught like way before my university programming classes but that shit was awful man

[merry knoll]

another thing i realized since i semi worked

while i was studying back then

that the graduates kinda sucked

[dusty frost]

oh yeah

[merry knoll]

like failing to use basic oop

or threading level

[dusty frost]

way too many people just like, do their basic university classes and nothing more

[merry knoll]

although they had like 3.0 + gpa usually

so not too bad either in that aspect

[dusty frost]

they don't know git, they don't know how to work with actual code, etc.

[torpid raft]

gateway university coding classes are trash ngl

[dusty frost]

there's no substitute for real world experience when it comes to programming, and computer science is mostly about theory (as the name alludes to)

[merry knoll]

cant talk for computer science

but mine was 40% hardware 50% theory

[broken elbow]

this

[merry knoll]

rest practical stuff

[dusty frost]

what was your major?

ah

[merry knoll]

its a seperate title here

compared to cs

[dusty frost]

yeah it is here too

computer engineering sounds like mostly hardware lol

[merry knoll]

nah

[pulsar ferry]

I learned so much more when I started working, even more than when I was doing it mostly as a hobby

[dusty frost]

software engineering is the title for pure programming

[merry knoll]

its mostly software still

but you also need to take hardware classes

similiar to electrical engineering

and a lot of programming design

[dusty frost]

you took a similar amount of hardware classes to what electric engineers take?

because holy shit we have like 2 hardware classes

[merry knoll]

6 total i think

12 classes per year

so its quite a lot

[dusty frost]

it's mostly theory, stuff like foundations of computation theory, turing machines, finite automoton, etc.

[broken elbow]

oh. that's a lot of classes.

[dusty frost]

i mean meh not really

universities in america do a credit system, most classes are 3 credit-hours, and you usually end up taking 15 credit hours on average

but like, i did 6 classes last semester and it wasn't that bad

[broken elbow]

yeah. I used to have 12 classes in 8th grade. but this year, I had 7 classes every semester

[broken elbow]

and out of the 7, 2 were sport and english, wich we never did

[merry knoll]

its credits for us as well

major classes are 4

minor ones are 3 usually

and you average 18 - 22 per semester

[dusty frost]

jesus christ

that is very bizarre lol, as the acceptable range for "full-time student" is 12-18 credit hours here

[merry knoll]

how many hours is that per week?

[dusty frost]

12-18

[merry knoll]

in class load only

thats low

its 20 - 25 range usually for us

[dusty frost]

that's time spent in lectures

[merry knoll]

ye

exactly

[dusty frost]

not including homework

[merry knoll]

not including homework or lab work

[dusty frost]

you spend 25 hours a week in lectures? what the fuck

[broken elbow]

we have credits here as well but they work completely different. you basically get credits if you pass the class and if you don't, you pay to take the exam again. and every credit costs like 200 RON or something (40-50 USD), and you can take the exam twice a year. And every class gives you a predifined amount of credits if you pass them

[broken elbow]

oh damn.

[merry knoll]

its.. not that bad honestly

[dusty frost]

we have a MWF/TTH schedule

[merry knoll]

not familiar with the acronym

[dusty frost]

monday wednesday friday / tuesday thursday

so classes are on either of those sections of days

[merry knoll]

nah its 5 days for us

5 days + saturday for lab sometimes

[dusty frost]

yeah it's 5 days for us too?

[merry knoll]

8:30 to.. 5:30pm basically

[dusty frost]

in university?

[merry knoll]

ya

[dusty frost]

wtf lol

if I wanted that I'd go back to high school jesus

[merry knoll]

you get gaps obviously

but since its like

[dusty frost]

the point of university is that you get to be free, do whatever you want, plan your schedule how you see fit

[merry knoll]

8:30 - 12:30 then 3:30 - 5:30

you end up staying there anyway

[dusty frost]

MWF classes are 50 minutes long, and TTH classes are 90 minutes long

[merry knoll]

its 50 for us

[dusty frost]

or maybe 80

[merry knoll]

4 in the morning and 4 afternoon slots

and you plan your schedule yourself

[dusty frost]

slots? 👀

[merry knoll]

but since not that many sections open up

per class

you end up staying with a fucked program

[dusty frost]

our "slots" are just like back to back from like 8am to 6pm

but you only end up taking like 2/3 classes per day

[merry knoll]

like 8:30 - 9:20 is one hour slot etc

and classes open at certain hour slots

[dusty frost]

it's on the half hour ew

ours are like 8:00-8:50

[broken elbow]

waking up at 7:30 to be at uni at 8 for 2 hours then going back home to be back at uni at 14 then going back home and back to uni at 17

lmao

[merry knoll]

ye its to match

[dusty frost]

9:00-9:50 etc

[merry knoll]

the legal lunch break here

which is 12:30 to 1:30

[broken elbow]

that was my wednesday this past semester

[merry knoll]

so you get off at 12:20 to 13:30

[dusty frost]

the fact that you have a "legal lunch break" is so bizarre lol

you aren't compelled to be at university here, you just go if you want

[merry knoll]

nah attendance is in the grades usually here

you can fuck off if you want

[dusty frost]

what the fuck lol

[merry knoll]

but you lose like 10% of the grade

its not exactly in the grade itself

but there is like 10% of the grade to be collected

in the class

through questions etc

which happen at random basically so

[broken elbow]

we need to go to 50% of the classes. not laboratories. otherwise they won't let us take the exam for that class. but most teachers don't really care about that.

[merry knoll]

yeah, same but with a grade requirement

to take the finals

"collect 40% of the grade until the final or you fail by default"

all this i dont mind much, but some classes are prerequisites to others obviously

[broken elbow]

we don't have grades during the semester. its just the final exam that matters. tho every teacher can chose to change that. a teacher gave us 3 exams and the final grade was the average, another just gave us a bunch of homework and it mattered for 50% of the final grade, etc.

[merry knoll]

and some open at only one semester

[dusty frost]

"collect" is such a weird word to me lol

[merry knoll]

so you fail 3 credits out of 21

and you add a year

since prerequisites push all classes by 1

[dusty frost]

well yeah some classes are only taught like Spring Semester Even Years

so if you're doing a 4 year degree, you have literally two changes to take them

[merry knoll]

yep

degrees are 5 years here though

1+ 4

first one being english only

[dusty frost]

english only wtf lol

[merry knoll]

since the highschool english edication

[dusty frost]

i guess it's a useful skill

[merry knoll]

education* sucks major ass

[merry knoll]

its more so that they can understand the classes

since the classes themselves are in english

especially at the better unis

[dusty frost]

ah yeah

english is like the language of the world or whatever lol

i am quite grateful to be a native speaker

[merry knoll]

its kinda useless for the average joe honestly

i use it a lot, but i skipped the year regardless so eh

[dusty frost]

i mean if they want to use any part of the internet not specifically designed for their language, it's pretty good

[merry knoll]

yeah, but its more that

[dusty frost]

especially useful in a programming degree lol

[merry knoll]

if you use a language in your native area only

you end up with a really botched version

you can semi read but speaking and understanding

is out of the question

since the person teaching is at B level at max

[dusty frost]

what country is this btw?

[merry knoll]

with close to no actual usage experience

its the land of the kebabs

turkey <-

[dusty frost]

ah

yeah feels like there's not a lot of turkish internet lol

[merry knoll]

there is

its just that they avoid the western part like plague

[dusty frost]

i mean like the vast majority of stuff is in english, no?

[merry knoll]

yes and no, turkish communities for basically everything is quite big

[dusty frost]

especially for programming, there aren't like any languages that aren't english-based with keywords and stuff

[merry knoll]

you would be surprised honestly

but they all are in this bubble

[dusty frost]

i mean how big could they possibly be, there's billions of english speakers and at most like a few hundred million turkish speakers

70-80 million says Wikipedia

[merry knoll]

yes and no, the thing is

population here is quite young

unlike the west

[dusty frost]

🤨

[merry knoll]

so % of people existing in the internet is quite a bit higher

[dusty frost]

i am not sure what kind of point you're trying to make lol

[merry knoll]

trying to say that the communities arent as small as they sound basically

obviously way smaller than the english speaking side

but proportionally to the population its quite big

they exist in completely bubbles though and as circlejerks usually

so i tend to use the english side more personally

[dusty frost]

ah nice nice

[merry knoll]

you from the usa?

[merry knoll]

or uk?

[dusty frost]

america, sadly lmao

[merry knoll]

i mean, its a nice country

[dusty frost]

though maybe luckily for the lightness of my education?

[merry knoll]

especially if you are in the cs field

exactly

[dusty frost]

not really that nice in terms of like basic human rights and stuff

but ya know

[merry knoll]

i mean, you are speaking to a guy from turkey so

we got a semi dictatorial mustache man at the helm

[dusty frost]

yeah probably a bit weird of a comparison, sorry lol

just a few steps backwards from where the us was a bit ago

[merry knoll]

some stuff from usa is insane even from here

funny enough

abortion law especially

[dusty frost]

yup

quite bizarre

[hoary citrus]

Do BungeeCord config.ymls work the same way as Spigot? Can I create it, then in the main file say smth like getConfig.options.cooyDefaults?

[wanton silo]

Hello, is there any way to return a placeholder on multiple line?
For example a lore like this:
Hello line 1
this is line 2

[high edge]

loop through the lines and parse it

[wanton silo]

I can't

I'm creating a placeholder that is going to be used with deluxemenus for example

[high edge]

DM parses placeholders everywhere so

You could either have seperate placeholders like for each line, and it'd split accordingly, or you can try adding \n for it to line break ( not sure if that works )

[wanton silo]

I've just tried using \n and it doesn't work

I guess I can't

[warm steppe]

matt's config > all

[hoary citrus]

What’s that

It’s my first time using bungee

[pulsar ferry]

It's just a fork of ConfigMe

[warm steppe]

Repository: maven("https://repo.triumphteam.dev/snapshots/")
Dependency: implementation("me.mattstudios:triumph-config:1.0.5-SNAPSHOT")

[hoary citrus]

Well I’m gonna have to wait a week to add it. I don’t actually have WiFi at home so I’m legit using a computer without internet lmfao

But Ty anyway

[warm steppe]

SettingsManager settingsManager = SettingsManager
                .from(new File("plugins/" + plugin.getDescription().getName() + "/config.yml"))
                .configurationData(Config.class)
                .create();

it doesn't have any documentation tho

[hoary citrus]

It’s fine, I might be able to figure it out by myself

Will start working on it next week then, thank you

[warm steppe]

Config.class is a class that implements SettingsHolder

And this is a basic config entry

@Path("menu.pickaxe-shop.filler")
public static Property<String> PICKAXE_SHOP_FILLER = Property.create("PURPLE_STAINED_GLASS_PANE");

and you'll figure out the rest, it's really easy and fast to use

[worn jasper]

it's the only sad part for me

[west socket]

Anyone know how I can import multiple spigot versions with gradle?

Gradle by default seems to only import the latest one

[icy shadow]

you will really need multiple modules for that

[west socket]

Hmm

So I would have to essentially have two plugins packaged together?

[icy shadow]

not exactly

you only change the version specific code

but yeah i guess basically

https://github.com/knightzmc/VersionedGradle i've got an example of how to do it here

[west socket]

Ohh let me a take a look

Thank you

What I was trying to do is just have individual classes handling the NMS for different versions that were all called from one central class

[icy shadow]

yeah that's basically exactly what that example does

you have an abstract interface that you can use throughout the plugin and then you just get a version specific implementation

[west socket]

Yeah

Yeah now that I look at it, thats exactly what I'm doing now but without the seperate gradle files.

Ill just go ahead and implement that system

Thanks for your help

[icy shadow]

no problem

[pulsar ferry]

Imagine not using build-logic

[icy shadow]

dunno what that is

i dont believe so

what do you need it for?

🤨

do you mean PersistentDataContainer?

that's basically just nbt

so either use NBT-API or NMS

depending on how much self-loathing you feel

the api is definitely easier

at a cost of slightly bigger jar size

[west socket]

Hey Brister. How were you able to reference classes that were in seperate modules?

I setup the versioned gradle syetem, but I'm not able to access classes across modules

[icy shadow]

you can depend on other modules

look at the build.gradle files

the only issue is that you can often get circular dependencies which are a pain in the ass

but that setup will work for the basics

[west socket]

Oh I didn't see that
🤦
Thanks again

[west socket]

Oof circular dependency error

[native cobalt]

hello

I've got a strange unexpected behaviour in my plugin

I'd appreciate any help

so, I have this very simple code:

public String color(String text) {
        String colored = ChatColor.translateAlternateColorCodes('&', text);
        return colored;
    }

with import org.bukkit.ChatColor;

but when I use it, it only removes the color codes without applying colors to the text

Bukkit.getConsoleSender().sendMessage(chat.color("&fPlugin enabled."));

output:

[viral moth]

so

[native cobalt]

https://imgur.com/a/CuIGQDS

[viral moth]

is that the only way youve tested it?

[native cobalt]

only used it there, yeah

the console renders colors from other sources though

[viral moth]

because the "console" will be colored differently than expected

try a color other that white maybe

[pure crater]

It depends if your console supports ANSI color coding

[native cobalt]

okey, let me try with other color

no, wait

actually

[native cobalt]

there's also the problem with &d

Bukkit.getConsoleSender().sendMessage(chat.format("&fVersion: &d%version%&f."));

using paper 1.18

[viral moth]

what does chat.format do

[native cobalt]

ah, this

[pure crater]

you arent even supposed to use Strings

its deprecated for Paper

You are supposed to use Adventure components

[native cobalt]

public String format(String text) {
        text = text.replaceAll("%plugin_name%", resource.name);
        text = text.replaceAll("%version%", resource.version);
        text = text.replaceAll("%built_prefix%", resource.prefix);

        text = color(text);

        return text;
}

[native cobalt]

didn't know, sorry

where can I find docs on that?

[pure crater]

https://docs.adventure.kyori.net/

[native cobalt]

ah, I see

[pure crater]

(It's automatically shaded into Paper jar)

[native cobalt]

thanks

[native cobalt]

hey

sorry, hadn't seen minimessage

i'll give it a look

[native cobalt]

hey

i gave it a look

so, if I wanted to use all the functions from the MiniMessage, the support for color codes (&a and so) would have to be dropped, and in the config files color codes should be specified by its format (<color>)?

[lyric gyro]

Correct

[leaden sinew]

How would I get the world from the CHUNK_DATA packet?

Nvm

[craggy timber]

I've registered a listener that uses ChatChatEvent but it's not being triggered according to my breakpoints, has this event been tested?

[lyric gyro]

the fuck is a ChatChatEvent

[torpid raft]

when the chat sends a chat of it's own accord

[dusky harness]

Probably https://github.com/HelpChat/ChatChat/blob/main/api/src/main/java/at/helpch/chatchat/api/event/ChatChatEvent.java

🥲

[lyric gyro]

i get that it's WIP, but you don't make a multiplatform plugin by tying the public API to a specific platform, lol

[dense drift]

Is it supposed to be multiplatform?

Or you are talking about spigot and bungee

[lyric gyro]

I mean either case the answer is "yes"