off-topic

[wary willow]

The Haskell programmer

[normal sable]

No

[long summit]

I was going to type somthing about haskell but got caught up typing too many >>>

[uneven tree]

Lmao

[wary willow]

Average Remence: 🤓
Average Blitz: 😎

[light scaffold]

yeah bro ACTUALLY thats not true

[mellow zinc]

got it boss

[light scaffold]

while there is an operator >>, the "do-notation" syntax sugar means using this is rather rare. instead, you can write code that LOOKS imperative but is actually functionally pure and converted into monadic operations

[long summit]

Is this actually how you do comments in Haskell? {-# comment #-}

[light scaffold]

no

theyre like annotations afaik

comments are -- comment

[normal sable]

Clean af

That’s why Haskell is supreme

[long summit]

Ah this website sucks lmao

[light scaffold]

actually i think theyre more like complier directives

like c++ #define or something

or #include

kinda similar to that

[regal juniper]

Those aren't too bad

[long summit]

Is it a comment that documents unexpected behaviour? Then better avoid the unexpected behaviour. Example:

a+b-b  -- you cannot delete (b-b) because the operations are not associative

If the operations are not associative for your custom type, then better do not define a Num instance for it. (Sure, Float types are not ideal.)
I repeat: Try hard - very hard - preferably repeatedly - to remove unexpected behaviour from your program. Comments can never fix unexpected behaviour.
Is it an obvious comment? Example:

-- swap the elements of a pair
swap :: (a,b) -> (b,a)

Congratulations: You have chosen a function name and a type signature that make the purpose of the function pretty clear without any comment. Thus: omit the comment, you only risk that it becomes out of sync with the function.

Kinda odd

[light scaffold]

WHAT

spam

[long summit]

Ayy that's not spam!

[wary willow]

att — Today at 22:06
Is it a comment that documents unexpected behaviour? Then better avoid the unexpected behaviour. Example:
a+b-b -- you cannot delete (b-b) because the operations are not associative

If the operations are not associative for your custom type, then better do not define a Num instance for it. (Sure, Float types are not ideal.)
I repeat: Try hard - very hard - preferably repeatedly - to remove unexpected behaviour from your program. Comments can never fix unexpected behaviour.
Is it an obvious comment? Example:
-- swap the elements of a pair
swap :: (a,b) -> (b,a)

Congratulations: You have chosen a function name and a type signature that make the purpose of the function pretty clear without any comment. Thus: omit the comment, you only risk that it becomes out of sync with the function.
🥲

[light scaffold]

that is

[long summit]

This is ^

[wary willow]

its just a quote.... these used to be normal

but ya'll changed

[light scaffold]

that is a weird example

[queen jewel]

Pragma

[long summit]

It's from the wiki 😦

[light scaffold]

no smart person would delete b-b, or you'd just use parens

😦

[queen jewel]

Those are called Pragma

[light scaffold]

yea thats the term

[queen jewel]

mhm

[light scaffold]

GHC supports several pragmas, or instructions to the compiler placed in the source code. Pragmas don't normally affect the meaning of the program, but they might affect the efficiency of the generated code.

[long summit]

Ah that's interesting

[light scaffold]

Certain pragmas are file-header pragmas:

A file-header pragma must precede the module keyword in the file.

There can be as many file-header pragmas as you please, and they can be preceded or followed by comments.

File-header pragmas are read once only, before pre-processing the file (e.g. with cpp).

The file-header pragmas are: {-# LANGUAGE #-}, {-# OPTIONS_GHC #-}, and {-# INCLUDE #-}.

dw guys i got you

[queen jewel]

Overloaded Strings all the way

😌

oh

dagger has assisted inject

omg

this makes things much easier

[wary willow]

Certain pragmas are file-header pragmas:

A file-header pragma must precede the module keyword in the file.

There can be as many file-header pragmas as you please, and they can be preceded or followed by comments.

File-header pragmas are read once only, before pre-processing the file (e.g. with cpp).

The file-header pragmas are: {-# LANGUAGE #-}, {-# OPTIONS_GHC #-}, and {-# INCLUDE #-}.
Clearly not spam when you do it huh?

😢

[light scaffold]

😮

[long summit]

Well sir it's only spam when you quote a quote

[light scaffold]

well you see i posted it the first time

yeah

exactly

[queen jewel]

@HiltViewModel
class MessageViewModel @AssistedInject constructor(
    private val appDatabase: AppDatabase,
    @Assisted private val channelId: String,
) : ViewModel() {

    val messages by lazy {
        appDatabase
            .messageDao()
            .messagesByDate(channelId).toLiveData(50)
    }

    @AssistedFactory
    interface AssistedMessageViewModelFactory {
        fun create(channelId: String): MessageViewModel
    }

    companion object {
        fun provideFactory(
            assistedFactory: AssistedMessageViewModelFactory,
            channelId: String
        ): ViewModelProvider.Factory = object : ViewModelProvider.Factory {
            @Suppress("UNCHECKED_CAST")
            override fun <T : ViewModel?> create(modelClass: Class<T>): T {
                return assistedFactory.create(channelId) as T
            }
        }
    }
}

much better

[light scaffold]

is that

side effects 🤢

[queen jewel]

No

There is no sideeffect in there

[light scaffold]

actually

maybe not

there could be though

BAD kotlin makes no GUARANTEES about SAFETY

[normal sable]

Is that... kotlin 🤮

[queen jewel]

tbh, why do I still have a lazy call there

lmao

[light scaffold]

¯_(ツ)_/¯

[queen jewel]

I earlier had another class set the value manually coz I couldnt get dagger to inject it

🥲

[fair island]

Some kid blocked me because I didn't give him a answer

[wary willow]

good

they don'\t deserver to have you as friends

[light scaffold]

forM :: (Traversable t, Monad m) => t a -> (a -> m b) -> m (t b)

Monad m 🙂

[wary willow]

😢

[normal sable]

Can we all agee that grape flavoured things are the best

Poggers

My government wants me to use it soo

Idk how long I’ve had this

Nope

You see, you’re across the sea

Where

[lofty harbor]

Texas

[normal sable]

Is it Ontario

Then ole

Nope

I’m staying in my little bubble of Ontario

[lofty harbor]

Why the quotations?
Does she not know yet?

What is 2w?

[normal sable]

Weeks

[lofty harbor]

Since 2 weeks ago, or 2 weeks old?

So why even put "gf" at all lol?

friend?

BEST FRIEND

[normal sable]

Dude how many relationships have u had this year

Bro the one potential relationship I coulda had I rejected her 😭

Where tf do you find these people

[wary willow]

no

[normal sable]

So what’s the best

[wary willow]

strawberry

[normal sable]

Gross

Please leave the server and don’t forget to give me your shiny role

3:45

Yes

The best timezone

[wary willow]

I think you're the one that should leave

[lofty harbor]

Wow you both live in Australia too?

[normal sable]

Ok what’s second best blitz

[lofty harbor]

Oh

But you said 3:45 est

[wary willow]

Don't really have a second best.

[lofty harbor]

Remence doesn't live in Australia

Oh wait

neither do I

Me?

No

Antarctican

Google

[honest thistle]

✳️ Global Multiplier Expired!

The global multiplier has ran out and has been reset!

[long summit]

Yeah

3x

5x for boosters

[mellow zinc]

2nd spin when matt

[regal juniper]

Do you want your 2nd one?

[normal sable]

Waffle was ready for that lmao

[mellow zinc]

pretty sure cube said u have to redeem within 24 hours of boosting

[wary willow]

yes. redeem it when efe goes to sleep

not yet

xD

[long summit]

Probably better a bit later, when more people are around

[wary willow]

😮

[long summit]

Plus i'll need to leave in a bit

[wary willow]

I'm not american tho. nice

[normal sable]

Blitz I’m here

Open the door dude it’s cold out here

Blitz pls

[normal sable]

I’m not home

I’m at blitz’s house

[long summit]

@regal juniper Ready for the spin when ever you want ;p

[regal juniper]

=multi spin

[honest thistle]

New XP Multiplier...

The global multiplier has been updated! - Expires in 1 Hour!

[boreal escarp]

@long summit wow you are cool now

[sullen sorrel]

pog

[long summit]

Ayy nice

[regal juniper]

Lol

[fallow crow]

oh god

[long summit]

I've always been cool 😎

[fallow crow]

man that's so cool

6

[long summit]

=multi

[honest thistle]

Your XP Multiplier:

[sullen sorrel]

smh

[boreal escarp]

You wish @long summit

[north olive]

bruh!

[regal juniper]

Man, Hellion just does not lose top 4. 1 game so far.

[long summit]

Have you managed to win with anything else?

[regal juniper]

Yeah actually

Well, top 4 at least.

[long summit]

I've been so bad at it, it's horrible
The closest I got was 4th and was with assassins

[boreal escarp]

Hellion is cool xd

Although I have tried it only on that fast minigame

[regal juniper]

Okay so the 4th place there was mainly utilizing Coven and i gave that lead to Morgana along with those items. If I had proper burn items, it'd be so much better.

[normal sable]

You talking about league?

It looks like an advanced club penguin tbh

[regal juniper]

LOL

[wary willow]

🩴

[boreal escarp]

Thats just a part of it @normal sable like an extra game

[long summit]

Lmao

[normal sable]

I’ll give it a shot some day

[mellow zinc]

oh no

[long summit]

Glare have you seen a 3 stars voli?

[mellow zinc]

remence why do u hate urself

[boreal escarp]

What I dislike at tft is that if you have a bad game and somehow get back in game, you just get hit with 20 damage and boom, you are out

[normal sable]

I have to try it to have an opinion sir

[regal juniper]

Negative

[normal sable]

I’m just saying it looks like club penguin remastered

[long summit]

It's so strong https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qT1HUf6AzGM

[regal juniper]

Just casually puts 3 guys on the board at level 9.

[long summit]

Yeah xD

[long summit]

I mean that's a good part, you need to control if you want a loss streak or a win streak and play it differently

The damage increases per level, so if you level up fast you start dealing more damage to them

[light scaffold]

oh hey another multi

kotlin... bad?

[mellow zinc]

yes

[tawdry apex]

support in training

[boreal escarp]

holy shit that volibear

[tawdry apex]

I have something you can support me with

[light scaffold]

okay

[tawdry apex]

Add relocation to PDM

[light scaffold]

ffs

i was typing "is it pdm"

🥲

[tawdry apex]

slimjar faked me out

and didnt post a release

yesterday

[light scaffold]

yeah slimjar bad

[tawdry apex]

empty promises...

[regal juniper]

Awaiting Gradle approval.

[long summit]

I told you since the beginning there wasn't going to be a release lmao

[tawdry apex]

Yugi said there was

[light scaffold]

yeah you know what has been released 30 times? pdm.

[long summit]

And I corrected him right after

[tawdry apex]

So you're saying it's "released" as soon as it's approved?

[boreal escarp]

the release will happen soon, yes

[tawdry apex]

oh nice

[long summit]

There is a few things to do still before an actual release, the lib still needs to be published then I'll need to update the gradle plugin to implement the lib when ever it's added

[mellow zinc]

pee dee em in 2021 ecksdee

[long summit]

BM join slimgang

@wary willow I see that 👀

[tawdry apex]

pi di ehm

[jade oasis]

support in training ez pz

had that once, didnt get online even 1 time lol

responsible as always

[mellow zinc]

classic scholtes

always inactive

[queen jewel]

Its ready

You can clone and build it to use rn

Lol

Just waiting for the gradle plugin to be approved

[tawdry apex]

gud

[normal sable]

So is support in training like a 2 week trial period

Or however long

[wary willow]

see what?

[long summit]

Role 👀

[wary willow]

oh right

k

[honest thistle]

✳️ Global Multiplier Expired!

The global multiplier has ran out and has been reset!

[mellow zinc]

GREAT multi

[wary willow]

good bye 👋

[regal juniper]

Totally forgot we had a multi going.

[tawdry apex]

@young mortar why dislike showcase

[fallow crow]

DRM bad

OS good

[tawdry apex]

those two dont relate because you can have DRM & OS at the exact same time

I didn't make the plugins that use my service, I just made the service

[stray geyser]

Someone can still not like it for that reason

[tawdry apex]

I don't understand that reason

[stray geyser]

How do you not understand it

[fading grove]

i dont like drm either. im just not going to provide a vote

DRM and OS at the same time is stupid

[tawdry apex]

Not liking the product because it supports DRM is a different reason then not liking it because it's not open source

[fallow crow]

"I don't like DRM services so I'm going to dislike the showcase"
That's as simple as the "reason" gets

[tawdry apex]

Idc if you dislike because you don't like DRM, that's up to you

[queen jewel]

...

[stray geyser]

Providing a DRM service obviously discourages OS for others too

[tawdry apex]

"DRM bad
OS good"

It's not necessarily for plugins

I just said it was so it could be easily understood

[stray geyser]

Who cares if it is for plugins?

[tawdry apex]

DRM is a part of the world

Adobe

[stray geyser]

Yeah and it's a part many do not like

[tawdry apex]

Minecraft itself is drm

[long summit]

I created a DRM licensing system for minecraft plugins

[tawdry apex]

nowhere on the actual site does it market itself for plugins tho

[stray geyser]

ok, and?

I don't see us praising that

[tawdry apex]

well you get mad at mojang not the people who wrote the drm software

[stray geyser]

who "gets mad" here

[tawdry apex]

Idk

Im not mad

[fallow crow]

then why ask

[tawdry apex]

I just wanted to make a cool project

It's got a frontend and a backend and a database

and some cool auth stuff

[fading grove]

well people disliking is going to be everywhere lmfao

you just gotta deal with it

ig

[tawdry apex]

I didnt make it to sell it

I made it because I thought it was a cool idea

[stray geyser]

why are you so defensive

[fading grove]

good luck on revenue tho 😬

[tawdry apex]

I am not being that defensive

It's not a real production product

It's just a fun thing

[stray geyser]

just accept that people do not like when others promote paid stuff to support other paid stuff in a community that mostly likes OS

[tawdry apex]

actually scratch that I am being defensive because It's not something to dislike. There's no infastructure for payments, there's no real plan system, it's just a personal fun project idea that I made from scratch to showcase my skills

[stray geyser]

ok

[young mortar]

it's not something to dislike 🤡

yes I do not support DRM anywhere because it's ruining software

this is why people pirate things

[light scaffold]

DRM bad

[normal sable]

I pirated deluxechat

||/s||

[mellow zinc]

🤨

[normal sable]

||no ban pls :)||

[lofty harbor]

What is DRM?

[fallow crow]

https://www.google.com/search?q=whats+a+drm

[light scaffold]

Dumb anti piracy stuff that ruins performance even though it inevitably gets cracked in less than a month

[lofty harbor]

Thanks for the link

[queen jewel]

I pirated pirating

[light scaffold]

Good

[queen jewel]

🇷

[tawdry tree]

I'm a pirate 🏴‍☠️

[fallow crow]

yo remence

[normal sable]

yo marcel

[fallow crow]

hey cutie

[sullen sorrel]

👀

[normal sable]

😳

[fallow crow]

im feelin rlly different today

like idk what the feeling si

but its just so

[normal sable]

Today?

It's 10:38 🥲

[sharp sky]

No it's 10:27am

[long summit]

🥲

[normal sable]

Did you guys hear about that piece of debris from a Chinese rocket that's gonna hit earth? 🥲

[teal solstice]

gogleing intensifies

[sullen sorrel]

gogleing

[normal sable]

hehe

[stark rapids]

👀

[stark rapids]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/297735643629486080/838651131239333888/original_9857875f-8f2d-4430-9b50-e2311f96cf47_Screenshot_2020-12-25-16-00-54-107_com.google.android..jpg

[boreal escarp]

Lol this guy has a domain for each plugin https://ultrapermissions.com/updates https://ultraeconomy.com/updates

[queen jewel]

lol

[twin dune]

He died. :(

[boreal escarp]

Ik =/

[prisma sage]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/837754906014122084/838695480656789504/2021-05-03_03.png

Final result of my Global Illumination 👀

[eternal apex]

@velvet crescent did u upgrade

what am i doing

[velvet crescent]

wat

[eternal apex]

i forgot to say "pc"

idk how I thought you'd understand "did u upgrade"

without any further context

[velvet crescent]

No? Did you even respond with what to upgrade eee

[eternal apex]

yes

your stupid ass monitor

[velvet crescent]

Ah yes, no not yet, still debating

[mellow zinc]

whats thou budget

[velvet crescent]

if I do get a new one I'm buying the BenQ one

[eternal apex]

don't buy that benq one

have a look around

[mellow zinc]

pls ips

[velvet crescent]

Yeye, similar style tho

I'm not gonna spend an obscene amount tho cause I really don't need an amazing monitor

[wary willow]

Rythm is dead again ... 😢

[normal sable]

I was gonna ask why u were alone without rythm lmao

[wary willow]

yeah he just left me alone in there

for some reason this keeps happening like once or twice a day

[normal sable]

rip

[wary willow]

if only barry beats supported YT Music and Playlists xD

[normal sable]

Can you call up barry beats?

[wary willow]

it doesn't support neither

[normal sable]

Then what does it support

[wary willow]

and I'm not going to search all 250 songs

on youtube xD

[normal sable]

oh

[wary willow]

yotuube and spotify I think

oh rythm is back

and it didn't forget the queue

[mellow zinc]

welcome back, Rhythm!

[wary willow]

Rhythm indeed xD

[normal sable]

yo kaliber

I require assistance

[mellow zinc]

yoyoy

[normal sable]

Alright so we need to go #development so that the staff member here doesn't get pissed

[wary willow]

and Rythm is gone once again

[normal sable]

rip blitz

[wary willow]

well its back

[long summit]

@fallow crow Why the friend request?

[fallow crow]

well

i was hoping u can help me

basically

my friend

is trying to ban me on discord

[normal sable]

You should probably ask here

[long summit]

How am I supposed to help you with that lol

[fallow crow]

because he said i sweared even tho i didnt

well

idk

[normal sable]

How is matt, or anybody supposed to assist you getting unbanned lmao

[long summit]

Oh no, not swearing

[fallow crow]

i didnt swear

i promise

anyways

[long summit]

Did you not say the fuck word?

[analog marlin]

you said the fuck word didn't you

[fallow crow]

no

i promise

i said moron

[analog marlin]

that's even worse

[fallow crow]

and he said give me mod or else my server is gone

[normal sable]

Dude... not moron 😱

Too far

[sullen sorrel]

lmaoo

what is this

[sullen sorrel]

what how can he delete ur server?

[fallow crow]

idk

[sullen sorrel]

?

[fallow crow]

he said he reported it

[sullen sorrel]

moron
moron
moron
moron
moron
moron

u dont get banned for saying "moron"

[analog marlin]

reported

[sullen sorrel]

😮

😱

[analog marlin]

😎

[sullen sorrel]

you don't have to worry about it lol

[fallow crow]

well

but..

are u sure

[sullen sorrel]

yes

[normal sable]

yes

[fallow crow]

why?

[sullen sorrel]

uhh why not?

[normal sable]

Because swearing isn't a federal offense

[sullen sorrel]

why would they ban for that

^

[long summit]

=ban @sullen sorrel For saying "moron"

[sullen sorrel]

moron isn't even a swear word afaik

🥲

[analog marlin]

moron is the worst of swear words

[fallow crow]

and he said i said b*tch

even tho ididnt

[sullen sorrel]

still won't get you banned

afaik

[analog marlin]

well you did now

[normal sable]

But u didn't so you

[long summit]

Imo that's worse than the fuck word!

[normal sable]

you're chilling

[sullen sorrel]

unless you were really really really really toxic

[fallow crow]

i swear to God i didnt

[normal sable]

don't swear to god 😠

[sullen sorrel]

🤣

[fallow crow]

i mean

like

i prmise to god i didnt swear'

and he sent me a screenshot

here

[normal sable]

Moral of the story: you're fine

[fallow crow]

sorry

[mellow zinc]

moral of the story: moron is a VERY VERY bad word!

[sullen sorrel]

lol

[fallow crow]

and now he's telling mw to give him da owner role

ahahahaha#

idk what to do

[sullen sorrel]

don't give it..?

[mellow zinc]

no

[fallow crow]

im not

[mellow zinc]

give him it!

[sullen sorrel]

i mean unless you want him to have it?

[fallow crow]

why?

[mellow zinc]

or he will hack ur account!

[sullen sorrel]

ok

[normal sable]

Tf is he gonna do if you don't give it lmao

post memes in general?

[analog marlin]

i'm getting big vision vibes from this person

[sullen sorrel]

lol

[mellow zinc]

me too ivan lmao

[fallow crow]

what is going on lol

[normal sable]

emily

[analog marlin]

vision brought an alt

[fallow crow]

and he sent me a screenshot that said at the bottom of the screen Disord: he said n**ga

[mellow zinc]

its dkims alt

[normal sable]

can you explain to mr vector here that moron is a bad word

[fallow crow]

even tho i dodnt

[sullen sorrel]

#off-topic message

[sullen sorrel]

no its not

[fallow crow]

yeah you don't say moron in here

[normal sable]

exposed

[fallow crow]

not allowed

omg

i am so scared

[mellow zinc]

oh no

[sullen sorrel]

omg

[fallow crow]

he sent me a screenshot of discord sending him an email

[sullen sorrel]

btw you know that it takes like 5 seconds to fake screenshots

[wary willow]

omg he said the fuck word? omg sinner!

[fallow crow]

i think i should give him owner

[mellow zinc]

saying that word is a one way ticket to hell 😱

[fallow crow]

should i?

[radiant needle]

yes

[sullen sorrel]

why?

just dont?

😮

[analog marlin]

confirmed

screenshots never lie

[sullen sorrel]

what

[fallow crow]

guess what

[normal sable]

BRO

[fallow crow]

i gave him a fake owner role

lol

gg

[normal sable]

So why did you friend request matt tho

[fallow crow]

idk

[sullen sorrel]

yes

[analog marlin]

nooooo

[mellow zinc]

omg is this true!!??!

[sullen sorrel]

😈

[analog marlin]

SLANDER

[fallow crow]

well

by

bye

[mellow zinc]

no dont go!

[wary willow]

https://i.imgur.com/gAMxByG.png

[sullen sorrel]

😮

😩

[normal sable]

is that... military time 🤮

[wary willow]

No sir. That is Good Time

something you never had

[normal sable]

1-12 is good enough

[wary willow]

U can take your Canadian ass to the US and shoot yourself. Thank You!

[normal sable]

Hell no

[young mortar]

i like 12 hour time 😦

[stray geyser]

Imagine having ambiguity in your time system

[young mortar]

i mean it's not ambiguous

you know if it's 3 am or pm lol

[stray geyser]

No

If someone says 3 it's ambiguous

[young mortar]

you can tell what time of day it is though

i've never not known which they meant

[stray geyser]

Because as we know the only time we ever mention is what we have right now

[young mortar]

or they specify the am/pm cause they're a normal person lol

they specify the time?

[stray geyser]

The numbers are literally ambiguous

[young mortar]

or you get context like if they say "let's meet at 3", you most likely know it's not 3 am

[wary willow]

no they're not a normal person ..

[stray geyser]

the same number means two different times

[wary willow]

they use am/pm

[stray geyser]

this is just a fact

[young mortar]

yeah so you take the extra 0.3 seconds to specify am/pm

[stray geyser]

If you have to infer from context this is a good sign of ambiguity

[young mortar]

you have to infer english stuff from context?

[stray geyser]

what?

[young mortar]

context matters for a lot of stuff in life

[stray geyser]

bruh

americans smh

[young mortar]

im just saying, the united states and many other countries have managed to use 12 hour time for a long ass time

i think it's fine lol

[wary willow]

well to be honest I still say 3 sometimtes. Instead of 15. Like when my brother asks me what the time is I don't say 15:30 I say 3:30

[young mortar]

thank you!

[wary willow]

but

that's just with context

or like what's the time

[light scaffold]

12 hours bad

[young mortar]

i mean when do you not have context

[wary willow]

but I still prefer 24 hours

[young mortar]

i have never been confused about a time before

[wary willow]

you wanna meet at 10 ?

10 what?

10 am 10 pm

[eternal apex]

i always get confused with time

[wary willow]

• we don't have am or pm

in romania

[young mortar]

well okay in romania

[wary willow]

so we do have to use 24 hours

[queen jewel]

Then specify am/pm

[eternal apex]

idk if 12pm is at night or 12am is at night

[young mortar]

if someone says wanna meet at 10 they say am or pm

[eternal apex]

i can never remember

[young mortar]

12pm is noon

[wary willow]

we don't have am or pm

[young mortar]

12am is the other one

that's how i remeber it

[queen jewel]

I mean in 12-hour system

[wary willow]

like the closest thing we have is 10 in the morning

[long summit]

I prefer 24h system as well

[wary willow]

24h ftw

[stray geyser]

or you could just use clear identifiers

[queen jewel]

As in?

[wary willow]

24 hours

xD

[stray geyser]

A one to one mapping from number to time

[young mortar]

thank god yugi is here to fight for me ❤️

there is a one to one mapping

[stray geyser]

There is not

[young mortar]

yes the am/pm is just part of the time

[stray geyser]

You need an extra qualifier

[young mortar]

it's just how it is

[long summit]

The day has 24h

[young mortar]

yeah it has 12 in the am, 12 in the pm

[long summit]

Am and pm is not needed

[stray geyser]

Gotta be careful before they invade us because we don't like nonsensical time

[normal sable]

It is needed

[queen jewel]

This is quite a dumb argument, neither of the systems are superior. If you're using a system, using it properly/not is your issue

This might be from where I live, but I've never heard a person say "its 16:30" or so

[wary willow]

yet the US Army uses it. I wonder why

[queen jewel]

Because why not?

[young mortar]

i do not hold the us army as the standard to match lmao

[long summit]

We don't have that much oil

[wary willow]

yeah why not? When our entire country uses 12h let's use 24h in the army

[normal sable]

Ok but 13:00 sounds gross to say

[wary willow]

no Remence

[normal sable]

Nobody wants to say 15:00

[wary willow]

Remence bad

[eternal apex]

ok

do u americans like the imperial system?

do u think it's better than metric?

[young mortar]

yeah no remence has a piont

no not really

[eternal apex]

sxtanna tried to argue it was better when he was still around

[young mortar]

nah imperial kinda dumb

[wary willow]

It doesn't sound gross unless you've gotten used with the 12 h system

[stray geyser]

lol

[young mortar]

metric makes sense

[light scaffold]

oh god

[normal sable]

I guess I'll be grouped with the americans then

[eternal apex]

do u remember bm?

[normal sable]

But yes star is right

[eternal apex]

were u here back then?

[young mortar]

24/12 hour time is just preference, there's no superior one

but imperial is just arbitrary

and metric is logical

[queen jewel]

That man argues about anything and everything

[fringe sigil]

metric clock enters

[queen jewel]

xD

[eternal apex]

his arguments were always good before hand though

[fringe sigil]

i used to be able to convert 24hr to metric within seconds lol

[eternal apex]

but that argument

it just wasn't

[queen jewel]

lol

[light scaffold]

usually he had good takes

[fringe sigil]

its like 6:50 o clock now prob

[light scaffold]

But nobody's perfect

[queen jewel]

Except Simon

[long summit]

But there is a reason only a few countries use 12

[eternal apex]

I have a feeling he didn't actually believe that and was just arguing for the sake of it

arguing is fun some times

[young mortar]

see but i don't care

[light scaffold]

That's true

[eternal apex]

idk if I like to call it arguing, more like conversation inducing dialogue

[fringe sigil]

https://minkukel.com/en/clocks/metric-clock/

[light scaffold]

He does seem like the type of person who would've done that

[young mortar]

just because one has a majority means nothing

[stray geyser]

do you prefer handling timestamps in the 12 hour system

[young mortar]

no i prefer handling timestamps in the ISO standard way

[normal sable]

If more people follow a stupid idea does that make it brilliant?

[long summit]

Let's not mention mm/dd/yyyy

[young mortar]

but i prefer converting thsoe timestamps to 12 hour time when I need to read it

[stray geyser]

which uses 24 hours incidentally

wonder why

[young mortar]

yeah it's easier to store

[wary willow]

no one

[young mortar]

but you also convert that

[wary willow]

dd/MM/yyyy please

[stray geyser]

also 12 PM and 12 AM make no sense whatsoever

[young mortar]

god this server is way too international

[long summit]

As it should

[young mortar]

let's get a few more americans in here

[mellow zinc]

this includes the aussies

[young mortar]

MM/dd/yyyy and 12 hour time is how I will stay forever

no convincing me

[light scaffold]

Let's not 🙂

[normal sable]

dd/mm/yyyy is correct

[light scaffold]

Classic american

[young mortar]

yup

[wary willow]

yooo if days can have 12 am and 12pm months should have 1 am, 2 am and then at the half it will start again from 1 but with PM

lmaoo

[mellow zinc]

🤨

[young mortar]

no months are already 12

if there were 24 months, sure

[wary willow]

1pm/12/2021, 2pm/12/2021

etc

[mellow zinc]

we are at month 5am right now

[wary willow]

xD

[fringe sigil]

degree clock is superior

[queen jewel]

I'll have to disagree with the date format, but Im fine with the time format

[eternal apex]

why do u have months first

give me a logical argument why months should be first

[sullen sorrel]

D:

[wary willow]

meant days in a month

[mellow zinc]

why do u have years first

[eternal apex]

i don't

[young mortar]

oh but there's like, 30/31/28

[velvet crescent]

dd/MM/yyyy

[young mortar]

that's not a nice even number

[velvet crescent]

Please

[mellow zinc]

good 🙂

[normal sable]

Piggy's speaking facts here ngl

[young mortar]

i dunno, it just feels so nice to say like "January 12th, 1970"

[normal sable]

There is no argument 😳

[stray geyser]

Let's review the totally sensible idea of 12 pm
you count to 11, then go to the other 12 and start from 1

[eternal apex]

i didn't speak no fax

[young mortar]

"12th January" is so weird

[velvet crescent]

Can any of y'all dislocate your pinky on your foot?

[eternal apex]

i can dislocate my shoulder

[velvet crescent]

Cause I sure can and it hurts like a bitch

[mellow zinc]

:what:

[eternal apex]

it doesn't hurt though

[light scaffold]

:what:

[eternal apex]

i can just pop it out

[normal sable]

:what:

[mellow zinc]

u need help

[light scaffold]

What is wrong with you

[sullen sorrel]

:what:

[velvet crescent]

Yea mine pops back to place after a while but hurts like a bitch in the meantime

[young mortar]

shoutout to dkim for being a homie

[velvet crescent]

Not even sure how but kek

[long summit]

When i hit it in the corner of the wall in the dark at night

[normal sable]

Why is dkim a homie

[wary willow]

oh god.

nooo please

stop

[young mortar]

he +1'd my "12th January sucks" message

[velvet crescent]

I legit just move it down a bit and it pops out :kek:

[queen jewel]

Its not another 12, tho, am and pm just denote what part of the day it is, before noon, or after noon

[light scaffold]

dkim is wrong

[sullen sorrel]

oh

[stray geyser]

you count to 11 in AM, then 12 PM, then start from 1 PM

[queen jewel]

The 12 usage comes from clocks afaik

[wary willow]

dkim is always wrong tho

so we can't trust him

[sullen sorrel]

main = putStrLn "but"

[queen jewel]

Some newer digital clocks use 00 AM instead

[young mortar]

yeah a 24 hour analog clock sounds weird as fuck

does that even exist

[normal sable]

dude that's right. You read the day as "January 12th, 2021" so month should be first 🤯

[eternal apex]

analog is 2 hard to read 4 me

takes a good 30 seconds to read

[young mortar]

oh nice

[queen jewel]

👀

[light scaffold]

DON'T hide behind HASKELL

[young mortar]

dumb people too scared of analog

[wary willow]

lmao

[young mortar]

had to use 24 hour time instead

[eternal apex]

star have u even seen my math bruh

[young mortar]

out of fear

i mean i dunno if an analog clock is too much for you, that kinda says something 🤷‍♂️

[sullen sorrel]

its like a sandwich, ```
March
5
2021

[wary willow]

yeah why split a 24h day into 24 when you can split it into 12 and then another 12

[light scaffold]

Die

[wary willow]

smh

[eternal apex]

it is a bit much though

[normal sable]

Analog is as simple as it gets

[young mortar]

good luck fitting 24 slots on a clock face

[long summit]

I feel like if I used a wrist clock, i would still pull out my phone to check the time

[sullen sorrel]

main = putStrLn "🥺"

[queen jewel]

I love how a random discussion just turned into a time war

🙂

[mellow zinc]

good

[light scaffold]

that will NOT compile

[mellow zinc]

this war resolve world hunger

[wary willow]

Smart Watches ...

[queen jewel]

Hunger Games???

[long summit]

Good analogy

[normal sable]

Sooo everyone died?

[mellow zinc]

yes

[eternal apex]

lol is that a real scene matt

[normal sable]

tsunami happened?

[young mortar]

i bet

[sullen sorrel]

D:

[young mortar]

she looks so sad

[sullen sorrel]

piggy

[young mortar]

that has to be real

[sullen sorrel]

we need /run

plz

[long summit]

Yeah xD

[mellow zinc]

gordon ramsay 🙂

[eternal apex]

where's the lamb sauce

[normal sable]

Yeah piggy when is barry gonna be able to do /run

[eternal apex]

erm

[sullen sorrel]

pLZ

[eternal apex]

never

[normal sable]

😦

[sullen sorrel]

NooOO

[young mortar]

bro do not put that on barry's plate

he has enough

[sullen sorrel]

🥺

[fallow crow]

Hello

[sullen sorrel]

piggy 🥺

[normal sable]

Ok get Gary to do it or smth

[sullen sorrel]

hi

[eternal apex]

no

[fallow crow]

someone said God is not real

[sullen sorrel]

y

D:

[mellow zinc]

oh no

[sullen sorrel]

ok

lol

[eternal apex]

code running bots seem somewhat useless

just use a repl

[normal sable]

I guess so

But it's cool

[sullen sorrel]

something called mybrowseristooslowsoijustusediscordtorunthecodequickly

[normal sable]

Freedom of speech

[sullen sorrel]

my 5 YEAR OLD raspberry pi has a higher CPU clockspeed than my laptop

[eternal apex]

speaking of repl did u guys know java has an official one

[normal sable]

YO

[young mortar]

🤡

[normal sable]

what

is wrong

[young mortar]

freedom of speech means the government can't stop you from saying something

[normal sable]

shut up

you understand what im saying

[young mortar]

it doesn't mean a private company (discord) can't stop you, or that other people won't hate you for your actions

[sullen sorrel]

freedom of religion

[eternal apex]

we don't have freedom of speech here

[normal sable]

😳

[mellow zinc]

pig is kim jong un in disguise

[young mortar]

yeah probably for the best

[sullen sorrel]

👀

[young mortar]

too many idiots here in 'murica

[eternal apex]

no

i mean in this discord

in aus we have freedom of speech lol

[young mortar]

oh oof

[normal sable]

what are the idiots saying

[young mortar]

im orange now, i don't think i can say that

[sullen sorrel]

😦

[wary willow]

hmm no one stops you from saying anything

[sullen sorrel]

dkim for staff

[mellow zinc]

trust me u can

[young mortar]

also i saw how bad my hot take of "12 hour time and mm/dd/yyyy" was

so i do not want anything actually debateable lmao

[wary willow]

that's not a hot take

[normal sable]

Ok but it's a vlid take

[wary willow]

that's just stupidity

[normal sable]

No

[sullen sorrel]

aw whys everyone hate me

[slate hill]

kek that message thread i linked to in my rant still exists

[queen jewel]

Bm

[mellow zinc]

Semigroup Mitten

[light scaffold]

:)

[queen jewel]

xD

[light scaffold]

I hope you all have a nice day :)

[wary willow]

I think BM will be demoted today

[light scaffold]

noooooo

[young mortar]

😮

[normal sable]

Are any of u vaccinated

[young mortar]

he's too groupy

[wary willow]

shall I leak the logs?>

[mellow zinc]

no promotion has happened today 🌚

[queen jewel]

Yes

[eternal apex]

from what remence

[normal sable]

from the coronavirus

[eternal apex]

negative

[young mortar]

tetanus

[normal sable]

rip

[long summit]

Sadly no

[normal sable]

👍

[eternal apex]

I don't believe I get vaccinated

[wary willow]

what? why?

[long summit]

Slow vaccinations here

[light scaffold]

Lol

[young mortar]

what if you get a rusty nail

in your arm

[eternal apex]

iirc my age group doesn't qualify

for the coronavirus vaccine*

we get vaccinated for other things lol

[young mortar]

oh good

[light scaffold]

|| my mum is antivax ||

[normal sable]

Just qualify 🌚

[young mortar]

tetanus big scary

[mellow zinc]

oh no bm

[light scaffold]

oh yes :(

[young mortar]

same

[normal sable]

aw

[queen jewel]

💀

[light scaffold]

🥲

[normal sable]

what about you?

[stray geyser]

rip

[wary willow]

oh boy

[light scaffold]

i am not antivax

[slate hill]

iM pRo LiFe

[queen jewel]

But I assume she won't let you take it?

[mellow zinc]

i am antivax 🙂

[wary willow]

My parents weren't anti vax until someone helped them make a facebook account xD

[mellow zinc]

vaccines cause autism

[wary willow]

they still aren't fortunatelly

only anti cov vax

[light scaffold]

She would not be happy

[stray geyser]

Bill gates gimme that juicy microchip

[light scaffold]

bro

[eternal apex]

it's true that more vaccinated people are autistic kaliber

[queen jewel]

💀

[long summit]

Was supposed to take ny booster for it in 2019, waited just for them to say "ah the guidelines said to extend to 2023"

[mellow zinc]

oh dont get me started on the chips !!!

[light scaffold]

Last year she actually said that shit

still does a bit

[mellow zinc]

exactly, they are clearly the cause 💀

[eternal apex]

no

it's just that the ones who aren't vaccinated are dead

[mellow zinc]

🤣

[normal sable]

6 feet under lol

[wary willow]

correlation vs causation 😢

[stray geyser]

I refused to get a vaccine once when I was like 7. 2 weeks later I had the disease in question

[light scaffold]

lmao

[eternal apex]

oof

[light scaffold]

what disease?

[mellow zinc]

pain

[normal sable]

aids

[mellow zinc]

🤨

[wary willow]

constipation

[stray geyser]

chickenpox

[light scaffold]

is there a vaccine for that??

[normal sable]

Yeah????

[stray geyser]

yeah

[light scaffold]

o lmao

[eternal apex]

my irl friend is an idiot, he's not anti vax, he just couldn't be bothered to get his vaccinations

[light scaffold]

I thought it's just something you get once when you're like 5

[slate hill]

whats an irl friend

[mellow zinc]

i had chickenpox too

[stray geyser]

Yeah you don't get it twice

[normal sable]

Slap some sense into him

[stray geyser]

but there is a vaccine

[long summit]

Like an unicorn

[normal sable]

That's what a good friend would do

[light scaffold]

huh

isn't it pretty much harmless, just uncomfortable

[wary willow]

what's a friend?

[slate hill]

¯_(ツ)_/¯

[fallow crow]

exactly, they don't exist

[eternal apex]

wat

i see unicorns all the time

[stray geyser]

It is very uncomfortable, but there are worse things, yeah

[young mortar]

well yeah but it can develop into like shingles or whatever

then it really bad

[stray geyser]

It's pretty much the only children's disease I've had

[light scaffold]

yea

[mellow zinc]

i had shingles

twice

[light scaffold]

Yikes

[fallow crow]

piggy being lsd does not count lol

[long summit]

Piggy slow down on the drugs

[sullen sorrel]

4 hours

[light scaffold]

just surprised there's a vaccine for people that aren't like vulnerable

[mellow zinc]

its really rare to have shingles as a kid apparently, so for me to have it twice was hella rare iirc

[young mortar]

i mean there's a vaccine for everything that can have a vaccine

cause they're a miracle invention

[eternal apex]

can u get a vaccine for vaccines

so u don't have to have more vaccines

[young mortar]

hmmm

[wary willow]

to be honest I didn't know there's a vaccine for that either. We all got it in our family. Most when we were kids. Its just a common thing everyone got used to

[long summit]

Not true, my fiance said that once you get over the russian anthem playing in your head, the 5g reception is great

[young mortar]

yeah you probably need it for like, middle school or elementary school or something

[light scaffold]

Yeah I thought it was just a thing you get

[young mortar]

uncivilized countries suffering with disease yikes

[wary willow]

for example for me the teachers asked where I am they just told them I have that and didn't even bother to check xD

[young mortar]

oh shit that was my bri ish ancestry talking there

[light scaffold]

lmao

[wary willow]

coronavirus

[young mortar]

well okay

[wary willow]

that doesn't scare you does it?

xD

[young mortar]

im not proud of my country

[nova kestrel]

who is?

[normal sable]

Come north star

[young mortar]

but at least we don't have chickenpox lmao

[wary willow]

but something that most people go thru and none die does

[nova kestrel]

meh chicken pox isn't too bad

[mellow zinc]

chicken pox is hardly a threat afaik

[young mortar]

what i don't like disease at all lol

[nova kestrel]

I had a scar left over from it for like 10 years

[stray geyser]

I'm sure the next time our European friends visit they can introduce you to it

[wary willow]

everyone I know irl had it once and no one died or had long term problems from it

[young mortar]

well I already have the vaccine johnny

i've literally toured europe lol

[nova kestrel]

for what?

[young mortar]

for chickenpox

[nova kestrel]

oh

wait what

[long summit]

According to the cdc there is about 3m cases of chicken pox in the us every year

[mellow zinc]

lol

[nova kestrel]

why would u vaccinate against chicken pox?

[young mortar]

whelp

i dunno what's going on anymore

[long summit]

Lmao

[stray geyser]

owned with facts and logic

[young mortar]

you just get it when you're like 8 or something

you need it to like go to elementary school or whatever

[nova kestrel]

stonks

[young mortar]

it's like 5 different ones

[wary willow]

but how? They're such a civilized country

impossible

they lie

[nova kestrel]

america is so civilised lol

[stray geyser]

the us has never once lied 🇺🇸

[mellow zinc]

very

patriotism 🥰

[nova kestrel]

murdering natives?

never happened

[young mortar]

yikes guys okay no need to shame me

im not proud of my country lmao

[mellow zinc]

no

i shall play a song that isnt nf after

[wary willow]

murdering people on the other side of the earth saying its to protect their own country while stealing their resources? Never happened

[mellow zinc]

why tho 😔

[nova kestrel]

not as bad as the bri'ish empire imo

[young mortar]

hey we aren't the only ones who did that

[nova kestrel]

we just invaded just because

like, what else would we do

[wary willow]

My problem is that they do it and then act like they're such a civilized country like Star said and nothing's wrong. xD

[young mortar]

i was memeing

and making fun of bri ish people

[mellow zinc]

why do u say bri ish all the time 😐

[young mortar]

because they're bri ish wdym

[mellow zinc]

ok half of the country doesnt pronounce Ts, but atleast the other does 💀

[long summit]

Looks at portugal, spain, uk

[young mortar]

yes

[mellow zinc]

france, holland too

[slate hill]

whats wrong with bri'ain