off-topic

[young mortar]

hey if anyone's gonna gift anyone nitro, I think i'm pretty cute so i should get it

just sayin

[normal sable]

In that case my name is remence so I think I should get it

[young mortar]

i dunno my name is a more turquoise shade of blue

[normal sable]

Which is also a lower tier than a darker shade of blue

Ok I gotta start this mr beast finger on app challenge

I’ll see you all in a month

[wary willow]

I can give you all free bans if you want

[young mortar]

free's free 🤷‍♂️

[nova kestrel]

slaps

that #816184747024711693

we love php

[young mortar]

i was gonna say lmao

well you see, they need either a web dev for php or a minecraft admin

and Andre is obviously both

so maybe he doesn't qualify

[full bone]

Why is it called Marxism and not Engelism

[nova kestrel]

well uh

[young mortar]

cause marx wrote the book

[nova kestrel]

fair

[full bone]

thewy both did

com manifesto was wrote by both

as a collaboration

it's very unfair

[nova kestrel]

well yeah

[full bone]

#GiveEngelsCredit

im going to tweet this out

[nova kestrel]

not very equal

[young mortar]

he had the better beard

[nova kestrel]

kinda goes against marxist ideology

[young mortar]

engel's was too pointy

[nova kestrel]

thats how russia works

[full bone]

ohhhhh

so is it called stalinism

becaues stalin had a good mustache

[nova kestrel]

have u seen rasputin's beard?

[young mortar]

yes

[full bone]

ohhhhhhhhhhhhh

[nova kestrel]

luxemburgism tho

[young mortar]

and because he was the ruler of a country for a good few years and killed like, more people than the holocaust and shit

[nova kestrel]

I don't think rosa luxemburg had a beard

ngl

[young mortar]

who

[long summit]

I think Angel is pretty happy with not being associated with an ideology that was very poorly implemented everywhere and caused so much death

[nova kestrel]

E

[young mortar]

oh wait, no beard, no wonder I didn't know them

[normal sable]

Alright so I lost the challenge 😦

[nova kestrel]

I would say based but I'm not twitter

[nova kestrel]

sadge

[full bone]

USSR: 70 million
China: 110 million
Nazi Germany: 40 million
Vietnam: 6 million
North Korea: 4 million
Cambodia: 5 million
Laos: 4 million
GDR: 2 million
Poland: 5 million

[long summit]

Based?

[nova kestrel]

well I agree that it was poorly implemented

but if it is well implemented

thats another story

[full bone]

oh god

not the that wasn't real socialism

look iwanio

[young mortar]

fucking 40 million?

[full bone]

socialism means abolishing private property for some form of collective ownership

[nova kestrel]

I'm not saying it wasn't real

[full bone]

in practice, this means state ownership

[young mortar]

i thought the holocaust was like 8 mill

[full bone]

and these countries had an abundance of that

[nova kestrel]

I'm saying it was the wrong kind

[full bone]

counting ww2 deaths, and holocaust was 12 mil

[nova kestrel]

I do not like authoritarianism

[long summit]

Nay it was a lot of people

The ussr was insane

[queen jewel]

Dont worry about hitler, deadpool's got us covered

[long summit]

The amount of people sent to gulag

[nova kestrel]

yeah it was very bad there

[full bone]

stalin engineered a famine in ukraine that killed around 12 milllion people

[young mortar]

nah bro the first thing I looked up said nazi germany was at like ~11 million people

[full bone]

its called holdomor

[queen jewel]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D2j0LNsDLfA

[fading grove]

i still dont get how you add stickers

[nova kestrel]

stalin was a total dick

understatement of the decade there

[long summit]

Big understatement

[young mortar]

lmao

"yeah stalin was kinda mean"

[full bone]

nazi stands for national SOCIALIST german workers party

tell that to any history teacher

taht tells you nazis were anti scoailist

[young mortar]

they uh... they were

[nova kestrel]

well they were

[young mortar]

that's called a propaganda name

[full bone]

no they weren't

[young mortar]

oh yes they were lmao

[nova kestrel]

they called themselves that to appeal to the common denominator

[normal sable]

Where’s the z and i tho

[nova kestrel]

Hitler murdered commies m8

so calling the nazis socialists

is just plain wrong

and illogical

and blatantly ignorant

[young mortar]

In german it's Nacionalsozialistice Deutsche Arbeiterpartei

[light scaffold]

lol what

u actually think nazis were socialist?

[nova kestrel]

at the time, the weimar government were losing power

so two major factions formed

the commies, and the nazis

[young mortar]

you gonna tell me that the Democratic People's Republic of Korea is a democratic nation? lmao

[nova kestrel]

the nazis wanted to take people from the commies

[nova kestrel]

so they renamed themselves to socialists

to appeal to the commies

[normal sable]

@fallow crow look! It’s your language!

[nova kestrel]

thats basically what i learned in gcse history

stonks

[young mortar]

yeah their first party was named like Labor Party or something

kinda lame

so they rebranded when adolf took charge

[nova kestrel]

yeah it was super boring

[young mortar]

then he made himself member #1

so that was fun

[queen jewel]

Sounds familiar

[nova kestrel]

mhm

[normal sable]

Have u guys imagined what the world would look like if hitler won?

[queen jewel]

Putin

[nova kestrel]

lol putin

[light scaffold]

nah man the nazis were socialist

[nova kestrel]

yep he loved equality

100%

and he was very democratic

[light scaffold]

a strong believer in equality 😌

[queen jewel]

UN created by adolf?

PEACE

[fading grove]

lmao

im making malware while being outside

lmao

[young mortar]

who you gonna mal with that ware

[fading grove]

ur mom

[young mortar]

oh no

[long summit]

For your information socialism is a very big and broad term, even though nazi germany was very different to say ussr it was still socialism

[stray geyser]

opening this channel was a mistake

[fading grove]

you were a mistake

[stray geyser]

I know man

[fading grove]

lol

[young mortar]

very true, they definitely socialized quite a bit of their industries lmao

[nova kestrel]

I mean yeah

but socialism is so broad

[young mortar]

oh yeah I messed up the end of the first word, but it's definitely Arbeiterpartei

[nova kestrel]

that u can't really talk about it

[stray geyser]

no... read a history book please

[young mortar]

Nationalsozialistische Deutsche Arbeiterpartei

[young mortar]

socialism isn't a boolean

[light scaffold]

about the only socialist thing they did was the nationalisation of some businesses

[young mortar]

they socialized quite a bit of their industries

but I like german :(

I tried to learn it in school

[nova kestrel]

german is cool

[normal sable]

German is confusing

[young mortar]

they forced me to take spanish

[nova kestrel]

I do like how german sounds

I had to do Welsh tho

like ffs

who speaks welsh

[young mortar]

because all I know is vaguely how to spell the NSDAP and a few nazi military ranks lol

[boreal escarp]

German sounds good only when it is used for rock songs

[normal sable]

L

[stray geyser]

First of all, they also privatised a lot. Their entire economy was focused on the upcoming war, not on any socialist ideal

[young mortar]

dont ask why :)

[normal sable]

Yeah that’s why they came close to winning it

[boreal escarp]

Thats the truth @fallow crow

[nova kestrel]

nazis gonna pull a thatcher and privatise everything

[light scaffold]

isn't socialism when the government does stuff though?

[young mortar]

well yeah socialism the idealogy and the doing it to an industry are very different things lol

[queen jewel]

Hello Object oriented programmers,
Charles Darwin once coined the survival of the fittest, inspired from this came the one, the only, hitler
Where else have we seen this?
Alan Key coined "Object Oriented" programming and later had to say: "I invented the term Object-Oriented, and I can tell you I did not have C++ in mind"

Think this through!!

[nova kestrel]

would u consider ancom socialism then?

[queen jewel]

What path have you followed!!

[nova kestrel]

or anarchism in general

[stray geyser]

now you got me confused

I thought socialism is venezuela no iphone bottom text

[nova kestrel]

hehe

[young mortar]

fucking what

[light scaffold]

socialism is when the CIA stages a military coup in a south american country

[nova kestrel]

uhhhh

[young mortar]

god I love the 1960's CIA

[stray geyser]

anarchismus

[young mortar]

bro what you speak german

[nova kestrel]

👀

[normal sable]

Does he though?

[queen jewel]

Hes from germany

[young mortar]

^

[normal sable]

So?

[nova kestrel]

Austria is better germany

[light scaffold]

1960's?

[nova kestrel]

ngl

[normal sable]

I’m from Canada. Do I speak Canadian?

That’s right

[queen jewel]

Is Canadian even a language?

[nova kestrel]

Austria > Switzerland > Germany

[normal sable]

Yes 😄

[young mortar]

yeah bro, back when they overthrew a government every other week

[nova kestrel]

noh

[young mortar]

yes

[nova kestrel]

Switzerland expensive

[light scaffold]

u sure they dont still do that?

[nova kestrel]

and Vienna is nice

[young mortar]

well they try to hide it at least

[nova kestrel]

meh

[young mortar]

like im pretty sure someone tried to overthrow the us government in january

that was kinda crazy

[nova kestrel]

just spronkle words together

then u got german

deutsche

[young mortar]

yeah

just ctrl+r, find the spaces, and replace with no spaces

that's german

[nova kestrel]

öusterreich is a word i think

[light scaffold]

2019 bolivia coup 🥲

[nova kestrel]

I can't spell shut

[young mortar]

wait did the CIA do that lmao

i had no idea

[nova kestrel]

learn f#

;)

yes

[stray geyser]

they didn't do it themselves, but they backed it

[nova kestrel]

I see a ß in there

[young mortar]

that is one fancy strasse

why it look like that

[nova kestrel]

where is your ss young man

[young mortar]

awe nice

[nova kestrel]

no ß here

[young mortar]

some good old american overthrowingf

[stray geyser]

KKona

[young mortar]

bro wtf it don't normally look that nice

[nova kestrel]

ein?

s...

[young mortar]

zwei

[nova kestrel]

s

[stray geyser]

German also has the superior big number naming

[nova kestrel]

yes that

[young mortar]

in spanish, everything is in 20s

it's kinda weird

[nova kestrel]

good

[stray geyser]

Billions? ew. milliards? hell yea

[nova kestrel]

in 20s is good

that's how Welsh used to work

b4 Romans fucked Welsh up

rude bastards

[fallow crow]

Not Germany specific, all Spanish speaking countries also do that

[nova kestrel]

bloody italy

[young mortar]

wow it's like johnny just said that lmao

[young mortar]

the fucking romans messed up welsh?

[queen jewel]

How about, 1 Million = 10 Lakhs

[nova kestrel]

and the english

but the english are just romans

but northern

[young mortar]

yeah okay i was gonna say

like english people are vibin

[queen jewel]

10 Million = 1 Crore

[fallow crow]

I propose measuring everything in football fields

[queen jewel]

Yes!

[nova kestrel]

what type of football?

[stray geyser]

That's the Galileo way

[nova kestrel]

i must kno

[queen jewel]

Rugby

[nova kestrel]

oh good i like rugby

[queen jewel]

The american style football

Actually

Question

[nova kestrel]

american football is just rugby for pussies

[young mortar]

bro im from america and even I hate that idea

[nova kestrel]

prove me wrong

[queen jewel]

Why do they call that football then they mostly play with hands?

[stray geyser]

@fallow crow you are the only one to understand this

[nova kestrel]

like really

[young mortar]

yeah soccer should be called football eh

[nova kestrel]

just rugby with 'helmets'

[queen jewel]

mhm

[light scaffold]

americans are stupid

[fallow crow]

It is like everywhere else lol

[young mortar]

yeah exactly

[fallow crow]

Because it's played with the foot

[young mortar]

i wish that were the case

i like soccer

american football kinda dogwater ngl

[fallow crow]

Feetball mmmmmm

[queen jewel]

Whats that?

Yea?

[fallow crow]

LMAOO

[young mortar]

LMAO

[queen jewel]

I have no idea what Battamizz is?

[nova kestrel]

haha wales is beating france in rugby rn

sucks to suck

[young mortar]

cultural appropriation nice one efe

[queen jewel]

Because Battamizz doesnt sound familiar

Oh wait I think I get it

oh yup

I got what you meant by battamiz

But not dusht tho

[young mortar]

efe had google translate open lmao

just un google translate it

[queen jewel]

Im not a native Hindi speaker

My mother tongue is a bit more niche

Malayalam

[fallow crow]

Wasn't gonna

[young mortar]

what server is that lmao

[nova kestrel]

germany

thats just germany

[queen jewel]

Battameez means something like Naughty

[nova kestrel]

thats all of germany

[queen jewel]

By dusht I think he meant dust which means like... uh... evil?

[nova kestrel]

on another note

does anyone know how to play starcraft, aka the government of korea?

[queen jewel]

lol

tf

[stray geyser]

fucking furries

[nova kestrel]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ME_tV4849NQ @fallow crow have u seen dis?

good

i love the ending

[honest thistle]

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[nova kestrel]

do i have

=remindme

[honest thistle]

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[nova kestrel]

sadge

but i booster

:((

i outrank all of you plebs

i'll get there

eventually

[fallow crow]

you can't add reactions in #development 😎

[nova kestrel]

:((((

well i have 2x xp

so

[sullen sorrel]

WAIT

[nova kestrel]

ha

[sullen sorrel]

=remindme

[honest thistle]

Reminders | Usage

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[sullen sorrel]

YES

[nova kestrel]

hehe

[fallow crow]

=remindme in 5 hours "to feed the Llama"

[honest thistle]

New Reminder Set!

In 4 hours, 59 minutes, 59 seconds:

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[sullen sorrel]

=remindme in 1 hour I HAVE TIER 5

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[queen jewel]

About 16k xp till tier 5

[sullen sorrel]

=remindme in 1 hour "I HAVE TIER 5"

[honest thistle]

New Reminder Set!

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[sullen sorrel]

thx

[nova kestrel]

i be lvl 26

only 15 more to go for tier 5

😦

bloody hell

Wales just lost to france

32-30

we literally only had to win this then we would get the grand slam

there's always next time haha

[young mortar]

awe no

so close to the grand slam

(whats that)

[nova kestrel]

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Grand_Slam_(rugby_union)

[stray geyser]

Y Gamp Lawn

fantastic

[nova kestrel]

Welsh is nice

that was such a good game though

France have been playing so well lately

Italy remain fucking useless at rugby haha

[stray geyser]

I have never seen a rugby game in my life

literally the only time it was ever mentioned was in french class

[nova kestrel]

I am culturally offended

[stray geyser]

I think I can manage to offend every culture in terms of sports

including Germans

[nova kestrel]

yeah

also rugby is not one thing

it is two

Rugby league, and Rugby union

Rugby Union is the main professional one

[full bone]

the sovie tunion and nazi germany agreed not to invade each other in the molotov ribbentrop pact

they also agreed to both invade and split poland

[nova kestrel]

yes they did

[full bone]

and afterwards they held victory marches together

they both had totalitarian systems

[nova kestrel]

then the nazis invaded them

[full bone]

with heavy government control of the economy

and a personalty cult

and the persecution of ethnic minorities

[full bone]

for oil

[nova kestrel]

oh yeah

[full bone]

not for ideological differences

[nova kestrel]

sure

sure sure

[stray geyser]

oh and now occasionally this bot posts a rugby player https://twitter.com/thelickbot/status/1373250108637257738

Lyric Lick Bot (@thelickbot)

https://t.co/TVZg9K92uO

Twitter · Mar 20, 2021, 12:28 PM

[full bone]

yes they did

that

[nova kestrel]

how do you know that

[full bone]

that is why hitler redirected his army south early

it was to take the oil

[nova kestrel]

oil was on his mind, but how do u know it was his main goal?

are u Hitler?

[full bone]

https://www.military-history.org/blog/barbarossa-and-oil.htm

[nova kestrel]

no u are not

[full bone]

you can look at the german archives

and see their intent

you don't have to be that person

[nova kestrel]

k so what are you trying to prove?

that they were both authoritarian

sure

I agree

[stray geyser]

They also wanted to exterminate pretty much the entire population of eastern europe, just a side note

[full bone]

that nazism is a socialist ideology

[nova kestrel]

🙄

[lofty harbor]

Yeah but thats not important

[stray geyser]

yeah, still wrong

[full bone]

still right

[stray geyser]

no

[nova kestrel]

still just stupid lol

[full bone]

https://mises.org/wire/yes-nazis-were-socialists

[nova kestrel]

thats someone's opinion

[stray geyser]

Oh god

[full bone]

it debunks all this nazis were anti socailist bs

[nova kestrel]

🙄

[full bone]

nazism and socialism both put commong ood before individual good

they both had a planned economy

[nova kestrel]

socialism is not a single thing tho

[light scaffold]

1 similarity = the same thing?

[nova kestrel]

lol yeah bm

mam I gotta bring this titanic fellow into some ancom discords

that would be a laugh and a half

[full bone]

anarcho communism is an oxymoron

[nova kestrel]

no it isnt

[full bone]

yes it is

[nova kestrel]

its not

[full bone]

name one time communism has been acheived without a totalitarian dictatorrship

[lofty harbor]

This discord

[nova kestrel]

haha

[full bone]

taking property from private hands requires authoritarinanism

[stray geyser]

true (this discord)

[nova kestrel]

not necessarily

[full bone]

really?

name one time it didn't

i'll wait

[nova kestrel]

it hasn't yet

you nerd

[full bone]

sure pal

[nova kestrel]

doesn't mean its impossible

[full bone]

socialism has been tried in 50 countries

and that has never happened

[young mortar]

wtf is this guy still here

[full bone]

I wonder why

🤔

[young mortar]

where do you live titanic

what country

[nova kestrel]

its worked in the Nordic countries

[full bone]

bUt tHaT wAsNt rEAL sOciaAliSm

[nova kestrel]

very well, in fact

[full bone]

Nordic countries still have private business

and markets

and the prime minister of norway

went out of his way

[nova kestrel]

still socialism tho

[full bone]

to say that norway is not a socialist country

[young mortar]

socialism isn't a boolean value lmao

there's levels

[nova kestrel]

socialism =/= communism

[full bone]

it's a capitalist country

[young mortar]

???

[nova kestrel]

capitalism is socialism

you nerd

[young mortar]

you're not either socialist or not

[full bone]

oh sorry denmark

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RO7wgS5tdz4

[nova kestrel]

socialism =/= communism

[young mortar]

certain things can and can't be

im so confused

[full bone]

when you falsify a country's economic system so much that the prime minister has to go out of his way to say that they are a market economy

[young mortar]

why... why do you care

[nova kestrel]

what are you on tho m8

[light scaffold]

capitalism with socialist policiies is bad?

[nova kestrel]

why do u think socialism is not a free market system?

socialism =/= communism

[stray geyser]

I honestly don't have the stamina to discuss this topic now, but I'm just curious: where did you get your education on history? @full bone

[nova kestrel]

lol probably america

[young mortar]

hey what no

don't lap him in with me

he's fucking weird

[nova kestrel]

lol

[stray geyser]

Btw I like how this article you linked just quickly brushes over the fact that the Nazis persecuted socialists and murdered the socialists that were part of the party in the very beginning lol

[nova kestrel]

haha

[light scaffold]

no they were socialist dumbass

the government did stuff

[full bone]

Just research in general

it's not just one place

[light scaffold]

redpilled?

[nova kestrel]

lol

[lofty harbor]

They actually lived through the time period

[young mortar]

4chan? lmao

[light scaffold]

if the nazis werent socialist, why didnt they have iphones...?
checkmate liberals

[full bone]

LMFAO HAHAH so funny i'm dying please stop XD

[young mortar]

?

[full bone]

do you not speak english

I said it was funny

[young mortar]

no I just don't understand that reaction

[stray geyser]

There were socialists in the Nazi Party, such as Gregor Strasser, but Hitler kicked them out and in many cases killed them. He surrendered to big business in order to gain power. He did not nationalize the major industries of Germany. He was no socialist but favored private property and business enterprise.

In answer to Sehon, I mentioned Mises’s vital distinction between two kinds of socialism. In one of them, the state owns the means of production. In the other, private property still exists but the state tells the owners what to do. This is a form of central planning and still counts as socialism, and it was this that the Nazis put into practice.
Yeah, they despised socialists and prioritised their persecution, but have you considered... that they used private business for their war machine? now what

[full bone]

says "lmao" in their message

[lofty harbor]

Fake news

[full bone]

I reply thinking it's funny

i dont understand that reaction

[young mortar]

It's a way to end sentences that implies a light-hearted tone lol

same as lol

[full bone]

ok lol

[young mortar]

doesn't mean im laughing?

hmmm

[full bone]

lmao literally stands for

laughing my ass off

[young mortar]

maybe you don't understand english

[nova kestrel]

i love how the democratic people's republic of korea is so democratic

[full bone]

but ok pal lol

they're not democratic

[young mortar]

good thing everything in this world isn't always taken literally eh?

[full bone]

they're an orwellion communist dictatorship

[young mortar]

wdym they have it in the name

[nova kestrel]

but the nazis are socialists?

[young mortar]

just like socialist in nazis

[full bone]

that's different

[young mortar]

how

[nova kestrel]

oh sure

[young mortar]

it's a name

it means what it is

[full bone]

because the nazis actually were socialist in their economy

while nk i snot democratic in their political system

[young mortar]

so is every country to an extent

are you american?

[nova kestrel]

what, cause they owned a few buisnesses

most countries own a few buisnesses

are u saying most countries are socialist?

bloody margaret thatcher

[light scaffold]

classic socialist

[young mortar]

lmao

[nova kestrel]

mhm the wicked witch of the south was a proper socialist

[stray geyser]

except, again, they weren't. they were if you literally define a socialist economy as the government doing stuff

[full bone]

I do

socialism means abolishing private property for some form of collective ownership

in practice this means state ownersihp

[nova kestrel]

no it doesnt?

thats communism

[full bone]

and nazi germany had an abundance of that

[nova kestrel]

titanic are u an idiot

srsly

communism =/= socialism

[stray geyser]

nazi germany did not abolish private property, are you insane?

[nova kestrel]

do you actualy know what socialism is?

[full bone]

the founde rof communism, karl marx, used the word socialism and communism interchagnebaly

in fact the communist manifesto uses the word socialism to mean the same thing several times

[young mortar]

did you know the united states is socialist a little too?

[nova kestrel]

the USPS exists

so america is socialist

no?

[young mortar]

Social Security existst

medicare exists

all socialist programs lol

im vibin dude, ima get to level 16 off of this conversation alone

[nova kestrel]

haha

im gonna get to tier V from this

ends the conversation

[wary willow]

lmao

[young mortar]

probably for the best

im gonna go learn what fourier transforms are

[nova kestrel]

yeah i cba arguing about politics in every single discord im in

i wonder what the common denominator is

[fallow crow]

Must be Discord

[nova kestrel]

yep

[young mortar]

ah yeah

[nova kestrel]

ive never had an argument like this in IRC

[young mortar]

brings out the worst in people

[young mortar]

it's cause when you make a bold statement, you don't see Several people are typing... and start fearing for your life

[nova kestrel]

on another political note, https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-56400751

[young mortar]

imagine being bri 'ish

[nova kestrel]

british authoritarianism yay

cant wait to fucking leave

😉

[stray geyser]

yes, true, but you clearly haven't read any of it or any proper analysis lmao

[long summit]

Isn't medicare private? xD

[nova kestrel]

comme ci comme ca

[queen jewel]

lmao

[young mortar]

no medicare and medicaid are what we give to old people and people who have other problems for free

might be poor people i don't quite remember

[wheat stream]

Hellooo

[long summit]

Ah okay

[wary willow]

CS:GO is love, CS:GO is life https://i.imgur.com/9JzvLcH.png

he just won a 3 v 1 xD

[fallow crow]

people who have other problems for free

[young mortar]

blitz is cracked bro

[wary willow]

that ain't me

[queen jewel]

problems for free

[wary willow]

I have 6 kills in second half

lmao

[young mortar]

there was a comma there 😢

oh nice nice

keep it up

[full bone]

you guys dont know socialism if it hit you in the face

[young mortar]

i think we don't know how to recognize a troll lmao

[full bone]

ah yes

[queen jewel]

well

[full bone]

anyone who disagrees with me is a troll

[young mortar]

no you're the troll lol

[full bone]

sounds pretty stalinist to make your political opponents seem less valid in their character

[nova kestrel]

sounds pretty conservative**

[young mortar]

lmao

the political spectrum is basically a circle

just converges on both ends

[wheat stream]

this is so entertaining

[queen jewel]

😮

😮

[wheat stream]

🍿

[queen jewel]

📺

[nova kestrel]

dammit im having two political arguments in two discord

help

[young mortar]

split forces oh no!

just like the nazis in wwii

[full bone]

call one a troll and make him sound illegitimate

[young mortar]

a two front war

[full bone]

so you can win

[stray geyser]

As a German, people like you who read three articles from some libertarian dude and then think they've understood the history of Germany are nothing new to me

[nova kestrel]

you literally just called us all trolls

like a minute ago

[wary willow]

=dadjoke

[honest thistle]

Hey son,

How do you fix a damaged jack-o-lantern? You use a pumpkin patch.

[full bone]

nice argument from authority

[queen jewel]

😮

[nova kestrel]

what

[queen jewel]

😮

[wary willow]

wait you're german?

[long summit]

Didn't this topic end a while ago? Why did it start again? lol

[fallow crow]

🔫 always has been

[full bone]

being a certain nationality does not make it objectively correct

[stray geyser]

I honestly don't know what else to say except pick up a history book lmao. This topic about as done as the question among scientists whether climate change is real

[wary willow]

shh. we're at the cinema

[young mortar]

i don't know, this guy is just naming logical fallacies and/or argument strategies

[queen jewel]

😮

[full bone]

i'm not sure about climate change tierh

[queen jewel]

[full bone]

a lot of things rae inconclusive

[young mortar]

lmao

[queen jewel]

[wary willow]

lmao

[light scaffold]

classic

[queen jewel]

🔫

[nova kestrel]

'inconclusive'

[full bone]

did you know

there was a model

called global cooling before

[nova kestrel]

it was conclusive 20 years ago

[full bone]

scientists were wrong then

[stray geyser]

ok, mb, should have expected that LMFAO

[young mortar]

"yeah man it was fucking cold in texas climate can't be warming"

[full bone]

why trust them now

[full bone]

strawman

[wary willow]

I bet you don't trust vaccines either

[light scaffold]

yeah pretty predictable

[queen jewel]

How hot?

[nova kestrel]

literally made to deflect from global warming

[young mortar]

that's not my argument lmao

[wary willow]

and I bet aliens exist and they hide them from us the common people

[light scaffold]

you guys hear that one about jews?

😳

[nova kestrel]

lol

why cant america elect a young person for once?

[light scaffold]

BIDEN is TRUMP in disguise...!!!! JULY 29th he will REVEAL himself and EXECUTE corrupt DEMOCRATS

[nova kestrel]

bones like twigs over here

[queen jewel]

TRUMP is James Gosling in DISGUISE

[light scaffold]

oh god no

[stray geyser]

DEMONRATS brother

[long summit]

OMG

[queen jewel]

😂

[trim raft]

omg?

[young mortar]

that's a really shitty picture quality wise lmao

[queen jewel]

Yea I just copied the icon version

[young mortar]

boomers know the way o bv

[long summit]

Reacting to BM's eye opening statement

[young mortar]

i mean you gotta be at least 40

[queen jewel]

140*

[nova kestrel]

to vote in america u gotta be 80

[queen jewel]

Immortal trump

[nova kestrel]

and live in a specific cul-de-sac

[young mortar]

nah its kinda true, all the old people have nothing to do so they go vote and all the poor people have to work so they cant

that's why mail in voting is so good

plus it's just easier on everyone

[long summit]

Isn't Pete Buttigieg 39?

[nova kestrel]

mail in voting isnt a political thing in the UK

[young mortar]

to be president

[nova kestrel]

its just... how most people vote

[long summit]

He was in the president race

[young mortar]

is it in america?

[nova kestrel]

yeah

[young mortar]

in my state it's just the default

[nova kestrel]

trump called it fake basically

[young mortar]

everyone gets a mail in ballot it kinda slaps

[queen jewel]

I love how trump with his single handed stupidity almost started a war in the gulf region and then came back to have the countries talk it through

[full bone]

you guys should pick up a political theory book sometime it would do you some good

[young mortar]

oh really wtf

[nova kestrel]

but its been how ive voted my entire life

[young mortar]

yeah same

[stray geyser]

recommend me some, what have you read

inb4 rothbard

[full bone]

road to serfdom

socialism

the theory of money

basic economics thomas sowell

[queen jewel]

😮

[stray geyser]

hayek lmao

[long summit]

According to Article II of the U.S. Constitution, the president must be a natural-born citizen of the United States, be at least 35 years old
Yeah Pete even being 39 could have been the president

[stray geyser]

of course

[young mortar]

awe shit its 35

[long summit]

Too bad they chose another old fart

[nova kestrel]

natural-born citizen of the US?

[stray geyser]

we have a libertarian role model here

[full bone]

are you a keynesian

[nova kestrel]

tf

why cant immigrants run

[young mortar]

my semester of us gov failed me

[young mortar]

because merica

[nova kestrel]

lol

[young mortar]

kinda ironic tho

[nova kestrel]

america so worried about immigrants

not worrying about emmigrants

[young mortar]

i mean most people aren't

[nova kestrel]

who would want to go to the US

[young mortar]

just like a few border states

here in the midwest, we vibin

[long summit]

and have been a resident of the United States for 14 years.

[full bone]

@stray geyser https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=29M1T0FZ05w

[nova kestrel]

trump literally said that he wants immigrants from places like norway

which is funny

[young mortar]

stop quoting the constitution at me, im getting flashbacks

[nova kestrel]

how he is so against immigration

but immigration is so good for the economy

that he can't deny it

[long summit]

Was just finishing the quote from before xD

[stray geyser]

say, what's your opinion on pinochet PepeLaugh

[light scaffold]

libertarianism worst ideology

[nova kestrel]

mhm it is

[young mortar]

i feel like you should watch videos from multiple political views to broaden your understanding

[nova kestrel]

yeahhhh being in a bubble isnt great

[young mortar]

the problem with politics is the echo chambers that exist where you only look at stuff that reaffirms your beliefs

[nova kestrel]

thats mainly cause of social media tho

[young mortar]

like reddit lol

yeah

[nova kestrel]

which is annoying cause i love social media

but it has significant downsides

[young mortar]

all the boomers on facebook lol

[full bone]

he wasn't good, he was an authoritarian, we need minarchism

[nova kestrel]

but mass communication is soooo good

'minarchism' ffs

[stray geyser]

shame

[full bone]

what's wrong with minarchism?

[stray geyser]

almost had a bingo

[long summit]

Minecraftism

[nova kestrel]

its alright

[young mortar]

yeah never heard of it

[nova kestrel]

obv not ur ideology tho titanic

u seem like more of a fascist to me tbh

[full bone]

its when theres no government intervention in the economy but theres still government for police to enforce private property rights

[wheat stream]

the better question is what's not wrong with minarchism

[light scaffold]

thats a made up word

[young mortar]

that sounds kinda dumb

[full bone]

https://libertarianism.fandom.com/wiki/Minarchism

[young mortar]

i would like there to not be monopolies please

[nova kestrel]

it is kinda dumb imo

[light scaffold]

thats the most america thing ive ever heard

[young mortar]

Standard Oil was kinda lame

[light scaffold]

we want corrupt police but no taxes

🙂

[nova kestrel]

lol yeah

this

that

etc

[young mortar]

and fucking ISP's

god I hate them

they should be regulated like a utility cause they basically are one now

[wheat stream]

I prefer anarcho stalinism

[light scaffold]

based

[young mortar]

lmao what does that even mean

[stray geyser]

I used to be an anarcho bidenist

[young mortar]

everyone gets to be stalin and murder everyone?

[wheat stream]

pretty much

[nova kestrel]

anarcho good

[young mortar]

sounds kinda based

[nova kestrel]

stalinism bad

[wheat stream]

everyone is stalin and theres no government

adding anarcho in front of any ideology makes it better

[stray geyser]

sounds awesome

[nova kestrel]

correct

[young mortar]

sounds like a good friday night

[wheat stream]

don't even get me started on anarcho totalitarianism

[stray geyser]

except for capitalism

[nova kestrel]

lol

[stray geyser]

the anarcho makes it way worse

[nova kestrel]

ancap is better than capitalism

[young mortar]

capitalism is already at 100% anarcho

[nova kestrel]

well

uh

kinda

not really

[young mortar]

everyone just does whatever they want

[nova kestrel]

its complicated

[stray geyser]

it's not

[nova kestrel]

my opinions on ancap are too long for tonight

[wheat stream]

or anarcho monarchism where there is a king who has no power

[nova kestrel]

thats just

[young mortar]

people are free to spend millions of dollars to stop laws from being made 🙂

[nova kestrel]

that

[young mortar]

thanks Citizens United (2010)

[nova kestrel]

anarcho fascism

[wheat stream]

anarcho anarchism

[nova kestrel]

anarcho centrism?

[wheat stream]

anarcho apoliticism

[nova kestrel]

anarcho anarcho communism

anarcho-ception

[light scaffold]

anarcho hickeyism

whatever rich hickey thinks

• anarchism

[stray geyser]

HYPERCLAP

[nova kestrel]

coolio

gn

[light scaffold]

Bonne nuit

[stray geyser]

shit

should go to sleep as well

didn't get anything done for my programming finals today 👍

[light scaffold]

nice

on the bright side, we had a nice discussion with an extremely educated intellectual

[full bone]

which was me

i'm extremely educated

[light scaffold]

correct

[stray geyser]

yep

[young mortar]

yeah that's the one

[young mortar]

you have finals in mid march?

[full bone]

i know more about political theory than you ever will and thats just how it is

[light scaffold]

based titanic

[stray geyser]

idk what else to call them but I need to do this to pass this module

[full bone]

maybe you guys can be my disciples

[young mortar]

oh I see lol

[light scaffold]

yes please

teach me your ways

[young mortar]

what class is it for?

[full bone]

https://prnt.sc/10r7bu4 this is mine btw

[stray geyser]

..programming

[light scaffold]

lmao

[young mortar]

i mean like any in particular?

[lofty harbor]

programming

[young mortar]

like im in CS 2420 Data Structures and Algorithms

[light scaffold]

oh my god

[nova kestrel]

🤢

[light scaffold]

isnt that literally hitler

[stray geyser]

Yeah no it's programming intro

[young mortar]

oh lol

[nova kestrel]

u should see mine

[full bone]

oh wow

[nova kestrel]

hold on

[young mortar]

can't be that hard then eh?

[full bone]

play the nazi card

on anyone who disagrees

[light scaffold]

❤️

[long summit]

Omg it's back to this again?

[young mortar]

👀

[nova kestrel]

ups

[long summit]

Dude just leave the politics aside

[stray geyser]

yeah it's not. but I still have to put in some time

[young mortar]

bro he is literally hitler lmao

those are exactly the same

[lofty harbor]

I told you they lived in the time period

[light scaffold]

hahahahahaha

[stray geyser]

the political compass is astrology for redditors

[young mortar]

ah i see i see

well good luck! :)

[light scaffold]

LMAO

[young mortar]

it really is dude

[wheat stream]

https://prnt.sc/10r7dbg

found it

[nova kestrel]

stonks

[young mortar]

i didn't know gandhi actually had political beliefs lol

[nova kestrel]

ofc he did

[young mortar]

i thought he just wanted to not be under britishr ule

[full bone]

this is bad

[stray geyser]

oh he sure hated muslims

[full bone]

this is bad

you guys need some work

[nova kestrel]

wrong

[full bone]

please read the road to serfdom

[nova kestrel]

no

[young mortar]

bring more to the literally hitler aisle haha

[nova kestrel]

actually sure

its probably shit

[wheat stream]

reminds me of your score

[stray geyser]

I'm dying

[full bone]

im not hitler

[young mortar]

that is very hilarious honestly

[trim raft]

printscreen

ew

[young mortar]

dude your dot is exactly where his is

[nova kestrel]

k sure

[young mortar]

like, exactly

it's kind of impressive

[nova kestrel]

is this man an elaborate ml bot or something?

[light scaffold]

not sure if im libleft or authleft

all my tests up until my most recent were libleft

but now

[nova kestrel]

then find out :()

[light scaffold]

im a communist ??

[nova kestrel]

commies can be libleft

have u seen mine?

[long summit]

How about we drop politics and talk about Lisps?

[stray geyser]

bro I'm liberal but young stalin do be looking good tho 😳

[nova kestrel]

0h hell yes

[stray geyser]

whats the difference

[nova kestrel]

also oh hell yes

[young mortar]

I've used Scheme

[nova kestrel]

good

[full bone]

https://prnt.sc/10r7fll im not near hitler

[young mortar]

I did like 10 minutes of the MIT book

then i got bored

lmao

he just photoshopped out hitler i love it

[nova kestrel]

haha

[full bone]

no i didnt

theres one for each

stalin for auth left

gandhi for libleft

thatcher for auth right

[nova kestrel]

literally

[full bone]

friedman for libright

there is no

WOw

photoshop htierl on there

[lofty harbor]

No no, you photoshopped Hitler in

[young mortar]

LMAO

[wheat stream]

ancap troll

[young mortar]

i love this guy

[full bone]

not an ancap

[nova kestrel]

they are definitely not ancap

[wary willow]

I mean at this point you gotta think he's a troll

[full bone]

exactly

[young mortar]

lots of sharp inhalations

[wary willow]

otherwise he really needs help

[nova kestrel]

an ancap would be better

than this literal mussolini clone

[full bone]

i somewhat agree with anarcho capitalism

because why should I pay taxes

to pay for someone else's police force

and defense

that's the defintiion of theft

maybe we should have private police

[nova kestrel]

what the

[wary willow]

well then defend yourself with the few money you make

lmao

[wary willow]

make your own country

[full bone]

have you ever heard of the NAP

non agression principle

that will be in anarcho capitalism

[nova kestrel]

mmmm chomsky

[lofty harbor]

I hear Antarctica is a nice place to live

[wary willow]

I love naps

[nova kestrel]

it is, actually

[wheat stream]

chomsky is overrated

[nova kestrel]

penguins and cold

[long summit]

If you have money

[nova kestrel]

I like the cold

[full bone]

GUYS

anarcho capitalism has worked

in medieval ireland

ok thats it

i'm an ancap now

[nova kestrel]

then we invaded them

:)))

[stray geyser]

titanic says abolish the police??

[nova kestrel]

take that

[light scaffold]

i dont understand libleft

[full bone]

yes

we need priavte police

[light scaffold]

surely socialism requires a state?

[full bone]

I should not pay for someone else's police force

[mellow zinc]

north korea is literally in the very top left of this

[nova kestrel]

actually, no

[wheat stream]

Yeah that's true, Engels himself recognized that

[young mortar]

private police i love it

[stray geyser]

Instead I pay for my own police force to brutalise who I don't like

[light scaffold]

i mean ive barely read into this much

[young mortar]

i love this guy

[wheat stream]

A revolution is certainly the most authoritarian thing there is; it is the act whereby one part of the population imposes its will upon the other part by means of rifles, bayonets and cannon — authoritarian means, if such there be at all; and if the victorious party does not want to have fought in vain, it must maintain this rule by means of the terror which its arms inspire in the reactionists. Would the Paris Commune have lasted a single day if it had not made use of this authority of the armed people against the bourgeois? Should we not, on the contrary, reproach it for not having used it freely enough?
Engels, On Authority

[young mortar]

he's fully leaned into the meme

[light scaffold]

how can you enforce the distribution of wealth and stuff without some form of authority in the mix?

[long summit]

Let's hire samurai

[light scaffold]

authleft makes sense

[stray geyser]

hahaha

[young mortar]

uh oh

[light scaffold]

state takes money

[nova kestrel]

a good question