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magic summit
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That's a really white fox

magic summit
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Really hope this will hit open beta soon.

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Would be so nice to have

sharp sky
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Any parsec alternative for phone out there? I need one

muted fern
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@fallow crow don't bump your requests, you won't be warned again.

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Once per month as per the rules

uneven tree
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Canโ€™t deny the fact that the showcase has been awesome recently with all the fantastic guis

light scaffold
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Showcase has been atrocious

prisma sage
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woohoo a lot of things in showcase today

wet briar
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I am wanting to host 4 servers on a VPS (Bungee, Prison, Zombie and Hub). I have these questions to ask:

  • what sort of specs will I need?
  • will I be able to install Pterodactyl?
    I know a VPS prob isn't the best choice but I am just wanting something simple and later move all the servers to a dedicated one.
    Thanks for your support
nova kestrel
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and u can prolly install ptero quite easily

wet briar
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like Its only gonna be me

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playerwise

velvet crescent
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@queen jewel

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Finally

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@mellow zinc

queen jewel
velvet crescent
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lol @barren hatch When you hate school to the point of making that

barren hatch
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Yep

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I got fed up yesterday with teams opening

velvet crescent
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kek

barren hatch
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kek

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the script autocopies itself to the startup folder if it isnt already there

fading grove
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yea who cares lmao

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i think we all done that before

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xD

wary willow
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I see that efefury doesn't like the taste of his own medicine

fallow crow
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That's good but it should be improved

fading grove
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LMAO

latent schooner
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@wary willow have you made any skyblock upgrade menus before? I'm planning to make one and I want a referance :p

lament ember
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well someone's Triggered

fading grove
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mad cuz bad

lament ember
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^

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-_-

velvet crescent
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Someones cranky

lament ember
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that joke is literally yesterday's news

fading grove
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bruh

lament ember
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damn you toxic bro

velvet crescent
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These jokes, my brain gonna implode

wary willow
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You can fuck off you fucking piece of shit trash can dog shit that you are.

lament ember
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mad cuz bad

fading grove
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shit ass fuck bitch dick

wary willow
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yes all that ^

lament ember
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I literally almost died of laughter at that

wary willow
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all the bad words

lament ember
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get out of 2014

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jesus

fading grove
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go reincarnate

lament ember
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classic 2012 primary school insults

fading grove
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lol

lament ember
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who can relate

latent schooner
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and bank upgrades

lament ember
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what's that supposed to mean

latent schooner
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and such

fading grove
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viag..

wary willow
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nah

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don't have banks

latent schooner
wary willow
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and size is set to 100x100

fading grove
lament ember
latent schooner
fading grove
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lol

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man thats one THICK

wary willow
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bcz I don't need them xD

latent schooner
fading grove
latent schooner
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I thought you said I shouldent make one

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lol

fading grove
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jkjjk xD

lament ember
latent schooner
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smh my head

fading grove
lament ember
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listening to people throw 2012 primary school playground insults like "you should look in the mirror" at me is hilarious

fading grove
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when was that

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lol

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prolly a couple months ago

lament ember
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you're really angry today aren't you

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omfg hahahaha

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that's not even good

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if you're going to try and insult me, at least try to come up with something decent

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else you're just wasting your time

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although I guess I could be called a hypocrite, since me responding to you is a waste of my time anyway

mellow zinc
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sometimes i wonder with efe

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what the fuck happened to u

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why u so angry past few days

tawdry tree
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Ask yourself that efe

fading grove
lament ember
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efe I said not literally

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go for it

kind marsh
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who

lament ember
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jesus

kind marsh
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I will send the missiles

lament ember
kind marsh
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I am sir

lament ember
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you ain't president anymore Trump, get outta here, you can't do shit

kind marsh
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I am the president of the united states

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i am

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america

lament ember
mellow zinc
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stop the count!

kind marsh
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they hax

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russian haxer

long summit
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You need to start reconsidering what you're doing if you're getting 6 different death threats lol

lament ember
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^

mellow zinc
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probably was angry to everyone else

lament ember
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try to ignore them

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they're just keyboard warriors trying to do this to you

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this is what they want

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so am I

fading grove
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then dont be emotional

long summit
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Teenage drama

fading grove
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\s

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lol

lament ember
fading grove
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well

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im technically still a teen

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lmao

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skyblock??

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that game is full of shit man

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shitty kids

lament ember
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I don't know why you bother even listening to them

fading grove
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no you are a war to yourself

lament ember
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as I said, they're likely just keyboard warriors trying to make you feel shit

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because they get enjoyment out of it

fading grove
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they just wanna feel special man

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then

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vlock

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just block

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and never see

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again

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and mute

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lol

lament ember
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literally defeats the point of blocking but

fading grove
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yes

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if you mute

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then just do it..?

lament ember
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this is what they want

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they want to upset you

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they want to make you feel scared and worried and angry

long summit
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Leave the server then

lament ember
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they can hide behind a screen

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that's why

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if you met them in real life, they'd probably not even come near you

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but it's easier to detach yourself from your online persona

velvet crescent
lament ember
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and much easier to say things when you don't have to directly face the consequences of them

wary willow
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hello

lament ember
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hello Blitz

eternal apex
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anyone know combinations? I don't get why the answer to e isn't 50C6

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i feel like i'm being stupid

fading grove
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uh

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so at least 2

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so uhm

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Where did you get 50 choose 6 tho?

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Isn't it at least 2 queens, meaning its choose 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7, and 8

eternal apex
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well we can eliminate two cards from the deck of 52 cards, because we have at least 2 queens

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so 50

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then we've got 6 cards left

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that's my logic

fading grove
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oh yeah there are only 4 queens in the full deck

eternal apex
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it's wrong apparently

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I just don't understand why

fading grove
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Well, its 8 cards total, but only 4 at max queens, and at least 2

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so its 8C2 * 48C3 for the first one

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then 8C3 * 48C2

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8C4 * 48C1

eternal apex
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teacher's working out for reference

sharp sky
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Pretty sure I learnt this in 11th grade...

queen jewel
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Seems right

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4C2 is selecting 2 queens, now since the rest must not be queens we would reduce 4 so 48C6 the same applied to 2 3 and 4 queen cases

fading grove
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Yeah

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you guys learn this in school?

queen jewel
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Yea had this in 11th as well

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Permutations and Combinations

fading grove
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i don't think our math curriculum has this. I just kinda read competitive shit

queen jewel
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ah

sharp sky
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The "probably" fastest way would be get all the number is not at least 2 queens, then get total - result found

fading grove
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in that case, you find the total possibilities, then subtract off if its 1 queen

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i think? I'm not sure

queen jewel
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(52C8 - 4C1 * 48C7) I guess ?

fading grove
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Yeah

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because you cant get 5 or more queens

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not possible in a deck

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so its only left with 1

lament ember
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someone please explain this notation lol

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then I might get it

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actually I see this now

queen jewel
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nCr

lament ember
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ah right

queen jewel
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Choosing r values from a total of n

lament ember
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yeah I haven't seen that before lol

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wouldn't the amount of combinations for 8 cards be 52 * 51 * 50 * 49 * 48 * 47 * 46 * 45 btw?

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just making sure I can still do probability lol

queen jewel
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Yes

lament ember
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this is where we then need probability trees

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lol

queen jewel
lament ember
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actually not sure we'd want a tree for this

queen jewel
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Not sure what you are talking about

lament ember
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you've never drawn a probability tree diagram?

queen jewel
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Dont think so

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Atleast I dont remember doing so

queen jewel
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Nope havent

lament ember
sharp sky
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Good luck with it in a huge set of paper ๐Ÿ‘

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Then you finally realized the test has ended

lament ember
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yeah probability trees don't scale lol

nova kestrel
sharp sky
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Anything but reversed calendar format pls

nova kestrel
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its not reversed

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you are the one who are reversed, in fact

sharp sky
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Damn

warm cipher
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Forgot to charge my watch last night, so guess we flexing with a dead watch today bois

sharp sky
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Any Parsec alternative for android that i can use though?

naive barn
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parsec works with android

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not for hosting

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for hosting the only thing i've found was VNC

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But all of them perform poorly and are not for gaming

boreal escarp
naive barn
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MM.dd.yyyy is not reasonable

naive agate
mellow zinc
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๐Ÿค”๐Ÿ˜‚

tawdry tree
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Ok

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So if I open up my computer, I get free demons? Hel yeah!!

naive agate
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lmao

boreal escarp
tawdry tree
low ice
tawdry tree
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Thanks

low ice
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yea fam

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awesome name

tawdry tree
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Hell yeah! I'm bout to purchase a Pizza with that credit card, which flavor should I choose?

low ice
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hmm margerita

tawdry tree
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Sounds good

low ice
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oh no i messed up the security code

tawdry tree
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Fix it -'-

low ice
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missed the last one

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oh its blocked now

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why

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||for anyone that actually is confused now, this is a test credit card number so it wont work||

velvet crescent
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Ah shit, here we go again

long summit
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I used to have alarms like that, it actually made it much harder for me to wake up

velvet crescent
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I wake up before the first one goes off, they are just a precaution

mellow zinc
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before? tf

velvet crescent
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If I miss the second bus (which is 30min after my first one), I'm fucked for the day

long summit
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I unconsciously would wake up and delay my alarm for the next one, then would miss class because of it xD

velvet crescent
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Smh Matt

mellow zinc
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me too

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i usually go back to sleep until my last alarm

long summit
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Like i said, was terrible, now i only have one alarm

wary willow
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not bad

tawdry tree
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Much better than the previous one lol

wary willow
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this is more of a banner tho isn't it

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or were there more banners?

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that I missed?

tawdry tree
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Ah you're right

lament ember
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yeah this is a banner

wary willow
long summit
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It's kinda meh imo

wary willow
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oh is the logo gone tho?

lament ember
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nah it's there

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just Discord's on crack I guess

wary willow
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well yeah for what Krypton is going to be I feel like the art should be something more spectacular

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but spectacular art costs sad_fingerguns

lament ember
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yeah

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anything you think I could ask the guy to add to that banner btw?

long summit
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A decent logo is only like $30 on fiverr

wary willow
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btw I assume that BADY is going to be gone? or is that going to stay?

lament ember
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yeah that's going to go

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just a watermark since I ain't paid the guy yet

wary willow
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idk maybe make it as a reflection. instead of floating make it stay on the ground?

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but that would mean quite a bit of redoing

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dk if the guy will like that

long summit
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Don't like the style at all, looks like old microsoft word special font stuff (wordart), doesn't look professional

jade oasis
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i usually put them an hour apart

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i like sleeping when im half woken up

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it doesnt put me in deep sleep and is much more comfortable

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and if i dont wake up for the first one my mind still kind of hears it enough to know to wake me up the second time

long summit
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When i do that i just feel tired all day xD

jade oasis
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oof

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im tired all day either way

wary willow
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just don't get a job... you can sleep how much you want

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its so great

jade oasis
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for anyone not watching jujutsu kaisen:
screw you

wary willow
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and I sleep less than I used to when I had school or work

wary willow
long summit
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for anyone not reading jujutsu kaisen:
screw you

wary willow
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I mean you can screw me for anything anime related

jade oasis
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i dont want to read it the anime adaption is god tier

wary willow
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the only anime I've ever watched was Naruto

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xD

jade oasis
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i heard manga is fantastic though

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and gojo is even sexier there

long summit
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The manga is absolutely fantastic

jade oasis
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i'd go gay for gojo

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long summit
wary willow
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well I tried watching things people recommended. its just not for me

jade oasis
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if there was an anime i'd recommend to someone who doesn't watch anime it would be jujutsu kaisen

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there is nothing to hate about it

long summit
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Yeah agree

wary willow
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Never said I hate it

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as in anime

jade oasis
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animation and art is top tier, story is pretty average, nothing too crazy, characters are pretty good, and gojo

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it's the peak of shounen

long summit
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My favorite anime is One Piece, but i would never recommend it to anyone because of how big it is

jade oasis
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I think Jujutsu Kaisen is as good as shounen can get without straying too far

long summit
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Yeah

jade oasis
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NP

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REMOVE

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REMOVE

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SPOIIILERS

long summit
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Lmao

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You haven't watched it yet?

jade oasis
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i have

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but people here might not have

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and that moment is way too good to spoil

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it was orgasmic

long summit
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Just wait for the next time it's used, it'll be even better

jade oasis
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I heard, i roughly know what happens

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I read the manga reader discussions of episodes

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I won't spoil Shibuya for myself though

long summit
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I wanna see Toji get animated, the dude is insane
Probably won't be animated till like next year so don't search it xD

jade oasis
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i know who toji is haha

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gojo's past arc gonna be goddamn fire

long summit
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Sad it won't be on this season

jade oasis
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i think they'll do OoO by end of season, start next season with gojo and yuta for either a 12 episode season or continue it and start off shibuya

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cos shibuya is so long it might as well get its own season

long summit
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Yeah

jade oasis
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also

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jjk op 1 is my favourite opening

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its way too good

latent schooner
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@wary willow ok I'm not creative at all lol.
do you have any upgrade menus I might look at? ๐Ÿ‘€

wary willow
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I mean there's example menus on the wiki if you want. I think there's a rank upgrade one

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you can see that one

latent schooner
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ok cool

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didn't realise there was one

nova kestrel
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discord is ur top?

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man mine is me on Disney plus rewatching AoS for the billionth time

wary willow
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imagine having Disney+

nova kestrel
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I dont

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its mah sister's account man

wary willow
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well

nova kestrel
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I'm not rich

wary willow
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imagine having it in your country

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that's what I mea

nova kestrel
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lol

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UK flex

wary willow
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xD

nova kestrel
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good

wary willow
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they just give us the round like that

naive agate
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@sinful fiber 10/10 work

sinful fiber
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thanks

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feedbacky is finally leaving beta in the near future after like 1.5 year xd

magic summit
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Oh how I love such issues -.-

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2nd time in the past 2 days that my bot had some connection issues

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Either the host's connection is crap or something else isn't right here

magic summit
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Automatic Generation of a ToC for my posts

normal sable
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wtf are you guys doing over in the uk...

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ik

mellow zinc
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this is not the wide consensus

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please do not group us together

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thanks ๐Ÿ™‚

sullen sorrel
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i cba to open up yt video

normal sable
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So you're telling me that your favorite swear words aren't bullocks, shit, and fuck?

sullen sorrel
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๐Ÿ˜‚

frozen escarp
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how is bullocks a cuss word

queen jewel
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๐Ÿ‡ฌ ๐Ÿ‡ฌ

velvet crescent
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Gg

lament ember
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lol

woven prairie
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sharp sky
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Yikes

nova kestrel
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Yikes

sharp sky
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I mean, i already kinda found it similar to somewhere before you notify that

nova kestrel
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Uptime: 23 hours, 52 mins
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sadge

eternal apex
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can't relate

nova kestrel
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sadge

velvet crescent
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that load average :kek:

eternal apex
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it runs lots of things but low resource using things

ebon shadow
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Java seems to be using most of my VPS's RAM. The mc server I run for some friends is capped at 3, and it's using nowhere near that rn. What else could be using Java that uses that much memory?

eternal apex
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@ebon shadow so you're one of those

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people that name their servers "mail"

ebon shadow
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hey, look

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I want an email server to run on here too right, every single guide I read said to do that, so I did it

eternal apex
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do you have jenkins or nexus?

ebon shadow
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both

eternal apex
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it's them

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nexus uses fuck loads of ram and jenkins can use fuck loads of ram

ebon shadow
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Jenkins is the docker process, and surely nexus wouldn't use that much when it's not doing anything, right?

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eek

eternal apex
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yeah no nexus is a hog

ebon shadow
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right then

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Is there a way I could monitor how much specifically nexus uses?

eternal apex
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well

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type top

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if you setup your nexus correctly it should be using it's own user

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so just see which java process is ran by nexus and then grab its memory

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there's probably a command to specifically do that but I don't know it

ebon shadow
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22.1

topaz mesa
ebon shadow
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Doesn't seem like it

eternal apex
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that's a percentage

ebon shadow
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oh

eternal apex
topaz mesa
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the request is "for free"

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what does it mean?

ebon shadow
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Ok so there's two processes owned by nexus, totaling to about 30%. That's not great. Is there a uh, similar bit of software I could use that doesn't feast on my hopes and dreams

eternal apex
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@fallow crow mind making your request a little more detailed?

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yes

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reposislite

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repoisilite

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idk

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it's got a stupid name

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reposilite

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I think

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it uses like 128mb max

lament ember
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I think Matt uses Artifactory

eternal apex
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artifactory is just as memory hungry

lament ember
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Matt said it was less

eternal apex
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well maybe slightly less, but it's definitely not worth switching to from nexus for less memory usage

lament ember
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also, just use Maven Central ๐Ÿ™‚

eternal apex
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it'll still be above 1gb

ebon shadow
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Ok this is practically exactly what I was after, thanks phil

eternal apex
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I believe the moss guys use it

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or it might be the intellectualsites guys

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idk

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some plugin group uses it I just can't remember which

lament ember
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getting onto Maven Central only takes about an hour to verify and get accepted and then maybe a couple of hours to setup if you don't just copy my setup from Komponent lol

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and also maybe makes you lose about 100 brain cells from the 10 or so times you bang your head on the desk from how stupid and outdated the process is lol

ebon shadow
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Actually good point, is there any advantage to using reposilite over Central

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Jitpack can suck my ass dkim

lament ember
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yeah JitPack is horrible

lament ember
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but Maven Central is free

sullen sorrel
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theres a reason I put in this ๐Ÿ˜›

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but ys it so bad

lament ember
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you get version strings like 44ce5a5 lol (latest version of Lavalink Client, which I use in BardyBotโ„ข๏ธ)

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it's annoying to depend on

sullen sorrel
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not if u make github releases ๐Ÿ™‚

eternal apex
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kotsumag I personally see central as the end game place for artifacts that are of a legitimate high quality

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i.e. none of my current projects

lament ember
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well my project, Komponent, wasn't that high-quality, but I got it on there anyway lol

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and yes, your projects are high quality wdym

eternal apex
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that's my standpoint

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not sonatype's

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sonatype afaik doesn't care about your project's quality

lament ember
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yeah Sonatype doesn't

eternal apex
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the only "current" project of mine that would suit central is rpf, and that is not high quality

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a lot of the code is garbage

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needs another rewrite

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don't have time though

ebon shadow
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Well you see, my repo hosted like 3 projects that were decent, and I just kept my wip-holy-crap-how-did-i-ever-write-this programs to myself

lament ember
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lol

eternal apex
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if I ever wipe my vps ima install reposilite instead of nexus

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too much effort atm though

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maybe when 16.04 hits eol i'll reset it

lament ember
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I don't even have Nexus lol

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or any repo at all

ebon shadow
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Yeah I just rm -rf nexus'd, screw that

eternal apex
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lol

lament ember
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I ain't gonna pay like โ‚ฌ15/month for the 4 vCPUs and 8 GB RAM I need to run that shit

eternal apex
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I literally can't do that unfortunately, I'd have to find a way to migrate my current artifacts, because quite a number of projects use my repo

queen jewel
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rm -rf \

ebon shadow
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Good idea

lament ember
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\ on Linux

eternal apex
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bardy I pay $18 usd quarterly for a 4 core 6gb ram vps

lament ember
queen jewel
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๐Ÿ™‚

lament ember
queen jewel
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I actually did do that once, altho it was executed through java

eternal apex
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yes

queen jewel
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๐Ÿ™‚

eternal apex
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the only downside is it's openvz

ebon shadow
eternal apex
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however it hasn't ever actually affected me

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it just has the potential to

lament ember
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yeah nah fuck OpenVZ

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I mean, it's decent software, but quite a few programs that rely on kernel features don't work

eternal apex
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yeah, that's why it has the potential to affect me

ebon shadow
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I'm still using the same Contabo VPS I got like a year ago, despite everyone's warnings I've never had a problem with it, except when I'm too stupid to work it

lament ember
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one example of a program that doesn't work on OpenVZ is Pterodactyl

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I personally use Hetzner

eternal apex
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bardy I'm not sure you understand exactly why openvz causes issues

lament ember
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ik how it works

lament ember
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OpenVZ basically uses a container system that still uses the kernel from the host iirc

eternal apex
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yep

ebon shadow
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five euros per month, so ยฃ4 something per month, so uh, hang on

eternal apex
#

that's why it's an issue, because you can't use your own kernel

lament ember
ebon shadow
#

At least ยฃ48/year

eternal apex
#

however luckily the kernel hostus uses on their openvz machine works with docker

lament ember
eternal apex
#

and therefore pterodactyl

#

so it hasn't affected me

#

mind you I don't actually use pterodactyl on the vps, just docker in the past for some things

lament ember
#

yeah

#

I mean, at least OpenVZ isn't as bad as RHEL 8, which dropped support for Docker iirc in favour of Kubernetes

#

not sure if that was a good idea or not lol

#

sounds like a bad one though

ebon shadow
#

So uh, I stopped nexus and then deleted the folder that it was contained in, but there's still a process running under the nexus user using about a gigabyte of RAM. The hell is that?

eternal apex
#

i need help, how would you describe this facial expression

#

kill it kot

#

deleting the file won't stop it from running in linux

#

well in the case of jar files

ebon shadow
#

ah

#

Well, 'tis now ded

lament ember
#

kill -KILL does the job when things die

eternal apex
#

pls help with the facial expression

#

I've got no clue how to describe it

lament ember
#

I remember reading some Nazi propaganda style messages about why you should use SIGTERM over SIGKILL lol

ebon shadow
#

Just dropped about 6GB of RAM usage.... nice

eternal apex
#

I spent 15 minutes compiling openface just for it to tell me which way the eyes were looking, I was thinking it would tell me the emotion or something

ebon shadow
lament ember
eternal apex
#

preferably a concise phrase for it

#

it's for an english short answer response and I can't really insert a quote in there to describe the expression

ebon shadow
#

I like Bardy's answer more. "He's a dumbass"

eternal apex
#

ok

#

legitimately didn't see that, I suck at reading expressions

#

thanks both

lament ember
#

yeah I used to find that sort of thing to read as well because Autism

#

yw

#

all of these linux handbook images are base64 ffs

eternal apex
#

here's the whole image

ebon shadow
#

Reminds me of Jay from the inbetweeners

eternal apex
#

incase context matters

lament ember
eternal apex
#

I think I looked at the image for half an hour trying to figure out what it meant

#

I had to ask my mum because I was clueless

lament ember
queen jewel
#

Yea I think its mocking

lament ember
#

now I'm even more confused

queen jewel
#

Maybe about a relationship? About the blame always falling on the dude

eternal apex
#

my mum said it's todo with the stereotype that women become completely irrational when suffering pms, and she will blame the guy for everything that is supposedly going wrong

lament ember
#

ah I think I get that now actually

queen jewel
#

Talks about PMS and how Milk is supposed to reduce its symtoms? like mood swings I presume?

eternal apex
#

she also said it's very insulting

queen jewel
#

Yea it is

lament ember
#

look at the fact that the guy is holding all the milk Yugi

#

I think yeah it's kinda saying how he has to do everything for her

#

which sounds very insulting

eternal apex
#

so with this all in mind, how would I describe his facial expression?

#

because I'm not sure it's mocking

queen jewel
#

stressed out?

#

uh

eternal apex
#

my thought was it's a "I can't believe you make me do this, cmon" expression

#

but again I can't read expressions for the life of me

queen jewel
#

yea, now that you said it, it does look like that. That would be annoyed right?

eternal apex
#

Yes! that's the word

#

thanks

sterile parrot
#

What do you need it for

mellow zinc
lament ember
#

lol

#

just couldn't not

agile violet
#

Hi

#

Who is owner of a running server ping me

lament ember
#

why?

agile violet
#

I wanna aak

#

Ask

#

You owner of a server right?

floral umbra
#

sure

lament ember
#

ask your question

agile violet
#

Do servers owners plays other servers?

floral umbra
#

sure lol

lament ember
#

sure

#

why not?

agile violet
#

Or they locate all their time to servers?

normal sable
floral umbra
#

they can play other servers lol

lament ember
#

I mean, they're just ordinary people at the end of the day, if they've got time, they might as well go and play on other servers if they want

floral umbra
#

the amount of time you dedicate to your server is up to you

normal sable
#

Well, itโ€™s not like a server owner does everything, they will have time to do other stuff

#

Thatโ€™s what devs are for etc

lament ember
#

it's a bit like the question of "do the police still go and have lunch?" of course they do

floral umbra
#

lol

lament ember
#

being a police officer is just a job, they're still normal people

agile violet
#

Because when i had a server and when i was play other servers i feel like something is wrong

#

Idk why lol

#

Because im a faction servers player so

normal sable
#

You could be taking inspiration from other servers

floral umbra
#

you aren't like cheating on your server

#

lol

agile violet
#

XD

lament ember
#

I mean, you've still got a business to run of course, but if you get free time, what's stopping you?

floral umbra
#

^

agile violet
#

Ow

#

Im 14

#

Years old

normal sable
#

Are you a server owner?

#

Currently?

agile violet
#

Was*

#

Closed yesterday

lament ember
#

ouch

normal sable
#

Forced? Or by choice

lament ember
#

I remember owning servers in the past, it's a hell of a lot harder than people think it is

agile violet
#

Forced

floral umbra
#

yea

lament ember
#

you basically have to run a business

#

to be able to keep the doors open

normal sable
#

Itโ€™s often brushed under the rug how much work it is

agile violet
#

Because i had no host, no money, no devs, no active discord

lament ember
#

since hosting Minecraft isn't cheap, as Mojang don't know how to code

normal sable
#

Thatโ€™s where advertising comes in limor

#

You need money for that so yeah

agile violet
#

See

#

I had no money

#

:/

lament ember
#

gotta speculate to accumulate

normal sable
#

I didnโ€™t either, I had connections

agile violet
#

Ow

#

I mean money for host ๐Ÿ˜‚

normal sable
#

Things still failed due to sabotage though

lament ember
normal sable
#

Wym by that bombardy?

agile violet
#

Is 4 hours a day for my new server work good?

#

I will revmap old server to new one

normal sable
#

Depends on when your release date is

#

Or when you wanna get things done

agile violet
#

Oh

lament ember
agile violet
#

Ye

lament ember
#

or at least, in this context

agile violet
#

Well

normal sable
#

Ah, youโ€™re 100% right. A minecraft server can be seen as like an investment in my eyes

floral umbra
#

the amount of time you spend depends on where you want your server to be

agile violet
#

Wdym where?

normal sable
#

Successful or not

agile violet
#

Oh

#

Also 2 more question pls

lament ember
#

the more you put in, the more you can theoretically get out

normal sable
#

You mean money or hours bom?

lament ember
#

let me explain

floral umbra
#

both remence

lament ember
#

if you put in no work and no money, you will always get no reward

normal sable
#

I donโ€™t think hours is necessarily the case

lament ember
#

full stop

agile violet
#

If i got staff to help is that going to help its going to get easier right

floral umbra
#

yes

#

but most people want to be paid

normal sable
#

You could set up the best server in the world, with no money for advertising, it wonโ€™t go anywhere

lament ember
#

if you put in hours in the wrong place, you could also only see a portion of the reward you want

floral umbra
#

so theres another cost

normal sable
#

Haha

lament ember
#

I've heard that one enough times

#

"You could make the best product in the world, but if no one knows about it, you're going to go out of business pretty fast"

normal sable
#

Exactly, so I donโ€™t really think that the amount of hours you dump into a server will always pay off

agile violet
#

Need money for host

#

That what i mean

normal sable
#

Thatโ€™s hard to do as a 14 year old

#

Assuming you donโ€™t have income

agile violet
#

Yes

floral umbra
#

get a small loan of a million dollars from the local bank ๐ŸŒš

normal sable
#

Hehe

agile violet
#

Make donor rank for 10 million so cheap

#

Its cheap

floral umbra
#

child labor is always an option at the ago of 14

lament ember
sullen sorrel
#

steal your mom's credit card ๐Ÿ˜Ž

agile violet
#

Lol

sullen sorrel
#

oh no!

#

theres admin here!

floral umbra
sullen sorrel
#

ill get banned!

normal sable
#

Uh oh itโ€™s the waffle king

sullen sorrel
#

Waffle King is on invisible status ๐Ÿ‘€

regal juniper
#

15 year-old me went right to GitHub, got the student developer pack, and just played around with the $50 or whatever that it gave DigitalOcean.

agile violet
#

Oh

#

Nice

floral umbra
#

thats a good option too

agile violet
#

I got an idea

floral umbra
#

if you get a small vps the $50 can last a good bit

agile violet
#

So if i learn programming and made paid project that going to help?

sullen sorrel
#

um

normal sable
#

You gotta be good at it for people to pay you

#

So it takes experience

floral umbra
#

you can earn money that way, but its not gonna happen in the first week xD

agile violet
#

Ye ik

sullen sorrel
#

that was a joke

#

it'd take a few months to learn java

lament ember
#

I started owning Minecraft servers when I was like 12 lol

floral umbra
lament ember
#

obviously had absolutely no clue what I was doing back then

normal sable
regal juniper
#

That was for development, not server owning.

sullen sorrel
#

food?

normal sable
#

Good**

lament ember
#

but I still thought I knew it all

sullen sorrel
#

im so food at java ๐Ÿ™‚

agile violet
#

Lemme eat

#

Lol

floral umbra
sullen sorrel
#

lol

agile violet
#

ah

#

Well

lament ember
regal juniper
#

Yeah, I remember starting with good ol' html.

lament ember
#

I only got the GH student dev pack like last year though

agile violet
#

If i got ppl to help me in server that going to make work easier?

#

Also i have 2 last question

normal sable
sullen sorrel
#

a lot of people want to get paid

mellow zinc
#

how old are u mr waffle king

floral umbra
lament ember
regal juniper
#

20

agile violet
#
  1. Do BIG server owners plays other server?
sullen sorrel
#

for example, I charge like $10 per plugin :p

mellow zinc
#

o

floral umbra
normal sable
mellow zinc
#

das crazy

sullen sorrel
agile violet
#

Remance i got my friend to help me

#

Oh

floral umbra
#

you can play other servers

sullen sorrel
#

if you have an smp, why not play hypixel?

boreal escarp
#

12pm refers to noon, right?

mellow zinc
#

yes

sullen sorrel
#

or if you're hypixel owner, why not play smp?

floral umbra
#

yes

normal sable
#

If itโ€™s your friend I doubt theyโ€™d want pay but I assumed you were talking about random people

agile violet
#

So that is not issue play other servers?

boreal escarp
#

oky

floral umbra
normal sable
#

No itโ€™s not an issue

sullen sorrel
agile violet
#

Also do small servers owners like me neede a dev to make server?

normal sable
#

It isnโ€™t embarrassing to be seen on another server as a server owner

normal sable
sullen sorrel
#

although it might get weird if hypixel owner goes on mineplex

normal sable
#

True

floral umbra
agile violet
#

Oh

normal sable
floral umbra
#

but a dev can be nice, they will want to be paid though

sullen sorrel
agile violet
#

I can be my dev

#

Ow

#

So public plugins isn't issue?

normal sable
#

You might want some help though

floral umbra
#

no

#

its not an issue

normal sable
#

Public plugins are fine, it all depends on what your going for

floral umbra
#

you should use moducore though verycool

#

shameless plug

normal sable
#

If there isnโ€™t a public plugin that satisfies your needs then go custom

lament ember
#

I can also remember getting access to CMD on our old Windows 7 machines back in the day through an exploit in the diagnostics tool @regal juniper , because that's how incompetent my IT department are

#

oh those were the days

agile violet
#

Oh

#

Thanks bois so much

sullen sorrel
#

im a dev in a server, and they literally have custom everything even though it exists already, and they're paying for it too

fallow crow
#

I mean public plugins are public for a reason lol

#

So you can use them

agile violet
#

I love you all

long summit
#

There is hardly ever a need for custom plugins, the public ones will do just fine
The only time you need it is if you want a very specific custom feature, which tbh you don't

agile violet
#

Thanks for help

lament ember
#

yw

normal sable
#

No problem

floral umbra
#

No

agile violet
#

:D have a nice day / night idk what is ur time

normal sable
long summit
#

Example?

queen jewel
normal sable
#

GTA

floral umbra
#

there are public plugins for that

floral umbra
#

iirc

long summit
#

You can 100% make a GTA server with public plugins

velvet crescent
normal sable
#

Thereโ€™s one public plugin that comes to mind which is crackshot

#

Other than that?

normal sable
#

Even then, crackshot is really outdated iirc

sullen sorrel
#

my plugin's performance is horrible lol

long summit
#

You don't need one plugin that does specifically that, you want npc interaction? Citizens, you want vehicles, there is one for that, you want guns, there are some for that

lament ember
#

part of the problem with newer versions is that people are incompetent and don't know how to optimise performance for new versions lol

velvet crescent
#

Bardy you'd be surprised, it's not hard to make a performant plugin, yet people still find a way

mellow zinc
#

imagine measuring ur plugins performance kekw

velvet crescent
#

Talking about the performance where it just shits the server due to how dumb it's made

sullen sorrel
normal sable
mellow zinc
sullen sorrel
#

WOW

long summit
velvet crescent
#

If Hangar doesn't flop that's gonna probably change a lot of things, since people will actually start being able to contribute to these plugins

normal sable
#

I use 1.12 fingerguns

long summit
#

That's a you problem

normal sable
#

And I actually didnโ€™t know crackshot supported 1.16 ๐Ÿค”

#

Is someone actually maintaining it still?

long summit
#

But the plugins that come to mind with these features are all outdated
Uses an outdated version

normal sable
#

I meant like 1.7 outdated

long summit
#

1.16.4 is outdated, 1.7 is prehistoric

normal sable
#

There were some plugins I looked at that didnโ€™t go past 1.7 but they had my desired features

mellow zinc
#

damn im still running 1.16.4, guess im outdated ๐Ÿ˜ฆ

floral umbra
#

1.7 lmfao

#

imagine

normal sable
#

Get with the program kaliber ๐Ÿ™„

mellow zinc
#

my b

fallow crow
#

Barry you bitch

long summit
#

@fallow crow I gotchu

fallow crow
#

Thx love

clever swan
#

I am using the NewItems plugin and if you know how to add custom items in the DeluxeMenus plugin, can you help me.

long summit
lament ember
long summit
#

Basically, that makes 1.8 cave men

clever swan
normal sable
#

1.12 is a nice middle ground for me when it comes to 1.8 and latest

sharp sky
#

Ew pvp

normal sable
#

Iโ€™m also afraid of change so yeah

lament ember
#

I think anything before 1.13 should just be left to rot away in the grave that it has been buried in for years

velvet crescent
#

before 1.16

long summit
#

^

velvet crescent
#

Legit no reason to be using legacy shit

lament ember
#

I also hate the old PvP mechanics

long summit
#

1.14 and 1.13 were the worse versions

velvet crescent
#

And don't say performance, you don't have that many players anyways for it to be a factor

lament ember
#

PvP shouldn't be a competition of who can win the guiness world record for the fastest clicking speed in the world

long summit
#

1.8 is like cookie clicker pvp

lament ember
#

^

normal sable
#

No

floral umbra
#

lmfaoo

#

thats a great comparison

normal sable
#

Thereโ€™s strategy

#

I wonโ€™t have this 1.8 slander

velvet crescent
#

Remence, sthu, thanks

sharp sky
#

P.S: whoever still uses 1.8 are kids k thx

normal sable
#

@sullen sorrel look what these guys are saying

long summit
normal sable
#

No u can w tap

#

You can strafe

long summit
#

Revolutionary

normal sable
#

Ik

sharp sky
#

Still ew

long summit
#

Imagine being able to hit and walk, if only that was possible in newer versions ๐Ÿฅบ

sharp sky
#

Be real though, 1.9 pvp were more realistical than 1.8, because physics do not make sense in that old version

sullen sorrel
normal sable
#

Ok but u have to wait 10 seconds before u can swing again

velvet crescent
#

I mean knockback is kind of broken in 1.16.5, but we don't talk about that

long summit
#

Let's actually be real, 1.9+ pvp is annoying and 1.8 pvp is boring, Minecraft sucks for pvp

velvet crescent
#

What does this whore want??

sharp sky
#

If you were actually pvp spam (fast sword swinging) irl, you lost a lot of energy from it

velvet crescent
#

common module works fine, bukkit doesn't ;C

normal sable
#

Thatโ€™s why valorant is on top

#

Letโ€™s ditch minecraft altogether

sullen sorrel
#

i get like 15 fps in val

nova kestrel
#

man

sullen sorrel
#

ok i gtg bye

nova kestrel
#

sadge

sharp sky
#

You are in a minecraft community rn ๐Ÿ‘€ ๐Ÿ‘€ ๐Ÿ‘€

#

Leave lol

normal sable
#

Iโ€™d never leave

#

Iโ€™m a protester here

#

Trying to make change

long summit
#

By not changing versions

nova kestrel
#

man

sharp sky
#

7v1 good luck ๐Ÿ‘

normal sable
#

๐Ÿ˜ฆ

lament ember
#

1.8 should be banned

queen jewel
#

๐Ÿ˜‚

lament ember
#

full stop

nova kestrel
#

I still use 1.12.2 sadge

lament ember
#

it is literally 7 years old

queen jewel
#

Its been that long?

lament ember
#

idgaf if you can't do your super fast whacky speed bridge shit

queen jewel
#

o.o

sharp sky
#

I am still fine with 1.12.2 though

nova kestrel
#

man

sharp sky
#

But 1.8, get lost

nova kestrel
#

I'm not fine with 1.14

floral umbra
#

will Krypton drop support for lower versions as soon as a new one comes out

velvet crescent
#

:bruh:

#

Gradle is being a cunt rn

nova kestrel
#

I'll switch to 1.17 sometime

lament ember
#

not sure yet

queen jewel
#

I

#

I'll switch to 2.0

queen jewel
#

oh god

sharp sky
#

A good reason to burn it down

lament ember
#

if the server doesn't work on latest - 1 though by the time latest comes out, I'll keep working on latest -1 until I get latest -1 working before I start on latest

queen jewel
#

The 1.7 days ๐Ÿฅฒ

lament ember
#

I won't just say "right, new version's out, scrap the old one"

nova kestrel
#

the mc:pe days

queen jewel
#

pe is relatively new right?

sharp sky
#

MC:PE were full of bugs back then

velvet crescent
#

Cause: cannot assign instance of java.util.Collections$EmptyList to field java.lang.StackTraceElement.moduleVersion of type java.lang.String in instance of java.lang.StackTraceElement
???

nova kestrel
#

mmhm

#

pe is now bedrock >:(

#

I preferred pe

sharp sky
#

I do remember some good memories there tho

#

Since 0.9.5

#

The only stable old one was up to 0.12

fading grove
#

lol

#

valorant fun af

sharp sky
#

I

#

Hate

#

Integral

#

These kind of math ruined my life on exam stuff

lament ember
#

show

boreal escarp
velvet crescent
#

How old is the catto now Gaby

fallow crow
#

3

boreal escarp
#

they turn 1 in june

nova kestrel
#

wow

#

that cat

#

does that cat say mao?

velvet crescent
#

Nice

nova kestrel
#

might be Chairman Mao reincarnated

boreal escarp
#

They just started to mew a little bit xd

wary willow
sullen sorrel
#

lol

normal sable
#

are you NA?

#

or eu

#

gimme ur username before new season drops

#

I wanna enjoy the game before this new op agent comes out

normal sable
#

also @mellow zinc what are your thoughts on the weeknd?

fading grove
#

im na

#

one sec let me check

normal sable
#

who do u main aswell

mellow zinc
#

the weeknd only has like 5 good songs max

#

all the popular ones

#

the rest are eh

fading grove
#

and im learning jett

normal sable
#

hmmm

#

ok

normal sable
normal sable
#

๐Ÿ˜›

#

where's my support role

lament ember
#

lol

wary willow
azure turret
#

oh ok

wary willow
real bolt
boreal escarp
coarse gorge
#

Hi @harsh arrow I see you needed help

tawdry apex
#

I found this

frozen escarp
#

Ahhhh

tawdry apex
#

How do I get tier 3

#

I've been here for like 2 years or something

fading grove
#

no

#

stay tier 2