only the updating part is scuffed, but that's also the case in survival, gotta debug that
#off-topic
blazing oar
proper jungle
when the placeholder gets updated, it has replaced the placeholder server side too
so the item's server-side name is now Hello World
thats why cheat clients can give the custom items
w the NBTs and such
client simply sends the packet
and server accepts it
blazing oar
I wonder if this is the case in survival too though
proper jungle
and if it has the NBT, then dont update it ig
like cancel it
no
thats just crea
proper jungle
np
proper jungle
now I gotta try to not forget to fix this
yeh thats why am saying it quite tricky
proper jungle
now I gotta try to not forget to fix this
there could be a potential simple fix
checking if the player has a crea
and not updating the placeholders at all
and listen to the gamemode change
when the gamemode changes to crea -> replace all items to their original states (without parsed placeholders)
but ig the NBT solution is smoother
and fail proof
blazing oar
PDC for the win
proper jungle
PDC for the win
EH
pfc might be slow
pdc
and if u set the NBT in ur packet interceptor
then it is purely client side
and ur doing no server side changes
Item Display Update -> Client
Client -> Update Item -> Server
blazing oar
bro, my brain is fried of maths atm, I cannot understand the whole thing atm xD
yk what
can you open an issue in my git?
lmao
proper jungle
on the update interception u could check player's gamemode, apply NBT
blazing oar
plus 3am
proper jungle
and listen to the packet from client, check if it contains the nbt tag that you are blacklisting
and cancel the packet
blazing oar
give your messages to gpt
and create an issue in my git pls
otherwise me forget
kinda hard to do on the phone
proper jungle
xDD
it may be harder than I thought btw
bcs it may b done using Click container packet
but obv u dont wanna cancel this packet
and u also still wanna know the original state of the item
you would need to intercept it a little and get actual state using paper api methods
which may not work properly still
OKAY then Ive got another idea!
caching β¨
Update -> Caches key of the update, puts it to NBT -> Packet -> Client
Client -> Click container -> Packet interceptor checks if it has the NBT, gets the key of the update and gets the State from cache (original display name & lore)
the reason why you would need to cache it is that in creative you can duplicate items, so you would need to cache it like so to make sure the duplicated items got the correct state too
thats my only idea
pastel creek
eternal apex
rip
sage robin
wha
winter compass
discord IPO
ser, what this means
winter compass
oh
naive agate
Ye
naive agate
But this prob means discord about to make this ad zone
winter compass
I feel like there's soon gonna be drama
winter compass
I'd lose soo much by investing
new cp accusations
new data breaches
new complaints
discord is so replaceable tbh
trim raft
https://www.reuters.com/business/chat-platform-discord-confidentially-file-us-ipo-bloomberg-news-reports-2026-01-06/
Also reported by Blomberg but their website is paywalled
proper jungle
discord IPO
NOWAY
proper jungle
fk i better get my investing acc again
tho discords reputation goes down low-key
w the new ceo
naive agate
tho discords reputation goes down low-key
wwe about to see 10x the ads
on discord
and everything paywalled
proper jungle
there are ads?
proper jungle
lol
naive agate
ig we will see
proper jungle
the "quests"
ah I've disabled them
proper jungle
ye happens to me from time to time
pulsar sun
thank you
sage robin
greetings and salutations people βοΈ
analog marlin
greetings and salutations people βοΈ
sage robin
stark rapids
virus has started spreading
proper jungle
BRUH
proper jungle
Do you support in AI baby?
huh
sage robin
Do you support in the AI baby movement?
muted fern
appears you posted it again
sage robin
okay
chill out
please
ππ
may mr cube strike me down if im lying
but I dont spam AI baby as much anymore
muted fern
enjoy the corner
sage robin
sage robin
what your favorite coffee?
rugged kestrel
winter compass
https://tenor.com/view/infinigods-kingofdestiny-king-of-destiny-kod-spartan-gif-12641869216485199897
proper jungle
winter compass
grand dirge
we gotta end this gif invasion
sage robin
yes ik
proper jungle
isnt eco precompiled?
half pasture
I was told I need to compile it
for 1.21.11 , for stattrackers to work
Eco 6.77.2 (downloadable) does not work on 1.21.11, which breaks Stattrackers
Sadly, I cannot get it to compile right
weary wadi
Arenβt eco plugins like garbage
half pasture
100%
Never using them again
Unfortunately, we already have players using the Stattrackers, so until I can find a replacement, I lowkey gotta keep it'
Auxilor is basically non-existent lol
weary wadi
Oh I didnt realize he was gone
proper jungle
ye for quite long time already
rare meteor
hr
zenith mauve
i know a sync event cant be called async
wondering if an async event can be called sync
kindred idol
Thanks π
rich hornet
Do you guys like the new baby animal models
blazing oar
Do you guys like the new baby animal models
honestly, not rlly
some I find cute
others kinda ruined it
it's WAY too blocky lol
proper jungle
others kinda ruined it
its really strange yea xD
proper jungle
Do you guys like the new baby animal models
not a huge fan, tho I think its still just about being used to something, yk
@kindred idol why the downvotes? Got any opinions? π
kindred idol
Yea
proper jungle
am opened for any improvements
kindred idol
Your format is bulky
proper jungle
huh?
kindred idol
Lol thats literally the only reason I'm just petty
The format in which you post your showcases
proper jungle
bulky? Wdym
proper jungle
I dont see anything wrong about it thus this is how DSLs look like
however ye, ty for saying π
kindred idol
I am literally talking about the post itself in the discord
Its too long
Or too many spaces
proper jungle
bruh
proper jungle
Well I didnt want to send just a link
kindred idol
I think theres a decent middle ground there
blazing oar
@proper jungle sowwy but been using triumph for ages :/
also, you on an open sourcing streak or smt? xD
proper jungle
also, you on an open sourcing streak or smt? xD
xDDD
proper jungle
also, you on an open sourcing streak or smt? xD
its just the ACrates recode
am recoding whole Waves, bcs I know that it could have been done better
especially regarding performance and clean code
true stirrup
Isint it gonna be a big bitch mantaining this many libs?
proper jungle
Isint it gonna be a big bitch mantaining this many libs?
Waves & ACrates got over 800 classes
am just separating the logic
thus those libs are pretty minimalistic ngl
At this point it does not matter whether I maintain one big core or multiple small libs
I still need to redo my Menus & Holograms
which is completely packet based
true stirrup
I guess, but personally at work i find that context switching between multiple projects that use libs and, multiple libs, in a update is very cancer
blazing oar
just checked the lib and yeah, pretty cool, although way too used to annotation based commands
proper jungle
I guess, but personally at work i find that context switching between multiple p...
in Waves (the framework) I will just add those libs as git modules
so I can make changes to them directly thru the project
proper jungle
just checked the lib and yeah, pretty cool, although way too used to annotation ...
am not a huge fan of annotations so yea
true stirrup
in Waves (the framework) I will just add those libs as git modules
so wont host em, just reference the libs locally?
proper jungle
so wont host em, just reference the libs locally?
wdym
true stirrup
i mean usually u publish the libs to a repo right?
true stirrup
in Waves (the framework) I will just add those libs as git modules
so youll keep the libs in the same project just for reference and easier editing?
proper jungle
Yea
Waves is just a core plugin for my Aquatic plugins (public plugins)
and am recoding all of it
which is easier to just make them as separated libs, bcs Waves had a lot and nobody really knew abt it
and yea as mentioned, those libs are pretty simple
for example Kommand is just 4 classes
its really nothing
24kb in size 
true stirrup
fair
frank seal
Wag
rich hornet
wouldn't the youngest legally allowed 2016 Discord user be 23
strange estuary
holyshit im fucked
rip
trim raft
wouldn't the youngest legally allowed 2016 Discord user be 23
23/24 ya
grand dirge
another AI
solar folio
Can someone help me moderate My discord server
stark rapids
Can someone help me moderate My discord server
how many people do you got on your server?
solar folio
Only me and my friends
Im new to this
I'm trying to get a lot of people in@stark rapids
vagrant pike
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FGFO-EvGVRw
My favorite thing about that - this AI crap is marketed "for gamers", when it's also a reason why those same "gamers" cannot afford PC components lmao
sage robin
@naive agate how hard is components v2
im lookin at many servers that use it
and damn it look sexy af
tryna get it on peanutcore
do u mind linking me anyth useful?
naive agate
<@498728692214792194> how hard is components v2
ez
naive agate
do u mind linking me anyth useful?
check discord docs..
sage robin
aigh bet
naive agate
would it require changing anything?
in terms of what
sage robin
coding language for rxample
would my old files work ?
or do I gotta rewrite lots of stuff
still all js?
naive agate
yes?
sage robin
tyty
vagrant pike
Adam made ClearLag
stuck rune
hi
sage robin
@eternal apex get a load of ts
they revamping every baby model, made baby pigs look cuter π₯Ή
new pig fr looks like ur pfp
jolly falcon
Hello
harsh rivet
its been there for a while
sage robin
ye fr this was 2 showers ago bro π
harsh rivet
another AI
waht da hell is that
dry cliff
@vivid monolith
Man if you make a post, atleast have your dms open π
holdup, did the thing change
the uhh server thing
sage robin
hi
harsh rivet
new version of AI girlfriend/bf
That has to be a joke
grand dirge
That has to be a joke
look at that promo vid
winter compass
._.
harsh rivet
post April fools joke by razor maibe?
sage robin
post April fools joke by razor maibe?
true stirrup
if it doesnt flop, the world is doomed
sage robin
gooning to AI? π
dreamy herald
I have my homework project built with laravel+react
And the goal is to upgrade this project.
If anyone can help me, please DM me and discuss budget of this project
sage robin
Greetings and salutations people
winter compass
simp
proper jungle
and what
sage robin
hi
sage robin
y don't u simp me <a:pepe_rain:815578789802934292>
nutting>>meloning
stark rapids
these discord nitro fonts looking so bad dawg
winter compass
nutting>>meloning
winter compass
these discord nitro fonts looking so bad dawg
???
sage robin
these discord nitro fonts looking so bad dawg
folk π
this profile right here is straight AURA
fym
umbral mist
how do i make a discord channel have the locked symbol so they cant oppen the channel but they can see what its called for my servers ip
proper jungle
y don't u simp me <a:pepe_rain:815578789802934292>
bcs ur not simping me
retro is a good boy yk
winter compass
bcs ur not simping me
but i do-
proper jungle
π
winter compass
π π
chilly brook
how do i make a discord channel have the locked symbol so they cant oppen the ch...
voice channel with removed join perms
umbral mist
okay thank you so much
proper jungle
aquatic me up
BRUH
winter compass
winter compass
AquaticMelon should be ur next lib
winter compass
i wanna quit my life
moneh
proper jungle
o-o
wicked osprey
@clever hound accept friend req and dms plz
sage robin
retro is a good boy yk
π
flat topaz
Hey
flat topaz
Sure didn't you check my bedroom I was with your mum
flat topaz
Nah we cool man
rare meteor
Sure didn't you check my bedroom I was with your mum
Bro got humbled with this 
blazing oar
So, going back to an old topic, I while ago, I was speaking about making a platform, built from the ground up, which was aimed at wikis/documentation that was mostly based around a grid system where you'd drop components etc.
I have now come to realize how much faster things like notion are once you get used to it. And now I am really skeptical on which way to pursue...
One gives full control but adds extra steps for the user, the other still gives you decent control and works like a word page aka you just write and if needed you would use stuff like commands / to add components to the place you currently are at.
lilac holly
Does anyone know if there is a way to let players join you server via Geyser (on Bedrock) with your own custom ip and the default bedrock port 19132 (Because i would like to keep it as simple as possible...)
turbid pecan
Does anyone know if there is a way to let players join you server via Geyser (on...
Are you using a host? Ask if they have 25565 and 19132.
naive agate
lilac holly
Are you using a host? Ask if they have 25565 and 19132.
They have 25565 but not the wanted 19132
turbid pecan
They have 25565 but not the wanted 19132
I mean most should have it, that's the only way
turbid pecan
ty gaby π¨ββ€οΈβπβπ¨
solar sinew
scrolling through the Services channels is unbelievably entertaining
vibe coder freelancers vs ai-written service requests
what a shitshow
solar sinew
π
stark rapids
They dont even respond to dms π
proper jungle
scrolling through the Services channels is unbelievably entertaining
those are the only channels that i don't have muted
so i can see whenever is something added xD
so ye I do absolutely agree
stone gale
hi
harsh rivet
#1456082817833242818 message he decreased his budget by another 10 bucks π
vagrant pike
well, obviously, he reacted to people saying that the price is too low so the right thing to do was to lower the budget
grand dirge
https://discord.com/channels/164280494874165248/1456082817833242818/145893374045...
its still a lot man wdym it needs to go down by like another 30-40 bucks
harsh rivet
fusion network does not avg 150 players ;-;
stone gale
@muted fern plz help
muted fern
he doesnt help
o
stark rapids
twin dune
@vagrant pike That's fucking hot - I'm very jealous.
vagrant pike
haha, thanks, it took a while to make it properly work lmao
and there are still some features missing
need to add a proper category list editing, add support for command sending
still can't decide whether I should publish it as a separate plugin, when it's finished
sage robin
<@168302501181915137> That's fucking hot - I'm very jealous.
no matter what shop plugin comes out im always gonna use shopguiplus π
twin dune
still can't decide whether I should publish it as a separate plugin, when it's f...
I will cry if you publish it.
vagrant pike
and I will name it DeluxeShopGuiX++
floral badger
hi
stark rapids
bye
jolly falcon
This your brother?
π
sage robin
stark rapids
big mac pricing
sage robin
they pay more in south asia π₯
harsh rivet
bro isn't this 2.5$/day
u a new gen, cool guy is KNOWN for posting those jobs, it's his special trait
vagrant pike
I will cry if you publish it.
I'm sorry broski
naive agate
Hey anyone here good with reading stack traces for https://clinicjs.org/heapprofiler/
trying to figure issues with Noti (Memory / CPU Spiking)
sage robin
u a new gen, cool guy is KNOWN for posting those jobs, it's his special trait
yeah am aware
blazing oar
I'm sorry broski
ewm that looks like spigot
vagrant pike
ewm that looks like spigot
yeah, sadly cant monetize on modrinth
sage robin
I'm sorry broski
link me it king π
vagrant pike
link me it king π
not verified yet
vagrant pike
ewm that looks like spigot
.
vagrant pike
yeah, sadly cant monetize on modrinth
.
vagrant pike
lol
vagrant pike
maybe, we'll see
vagrant pike
can yall not bump MY SHITTTTT
bump
pulsar sun
can yall not bump MY SHITTTTT
bump
naive agate
i woke up at 12:37pm it's 6:28pm
well
sage robin
Hey anyone here good with reading stack traces for https://clinicjs.org/heapprof...
can someone help this guy π
stark rapids
gpt
blazing oar
yeah, sadly cant monetize on modrinth
paid? I assume not open source?
sage robin
hi @proper jungle
vagrant pike
paid? I assume not open source?
yeah, paid, no source
being paid and open sourced doesn't really work imo
I have paid and open sourced plugin and its not doing too hot
though maybe it's just not that useful/good
dry cliff
DMβs.
90% of them in #1456082817833242818 don't respond π
Somehow even $50/m is way too high for people
blazing oar
yeah, paid, no source
L
added to my list of plugins I will copy and make open source
lucky for you, that list is extremely big
dry cliff
shorten the list man
blazing oar
cause a bunch of paid plugins are not open source
way too many paid plugins that are closed source
dry cliff
can you like open source this plugin and then move on to the rest
blazing oar
I actually reduced the list a tiny bit last week, since some plugins made it so if you buy it, you have access to the src
which is okay in my books
dry cliff
jus asking
blazing oar
Also M0dii's plugins probs not high priority in my list since I ASSUME it's good ethics and quality. top priority is the shitty plugins that are paid and closed source
dry cliff
UltraSkywars?
dry cliff
idk, it came into my mind π
vagrant pike
way too many paid plugins that are closed source
I mean, I'm all for open sourced plugins, but as I said, open sourced and paid doesn't really work imo
I have "plenty" of open-sourced and free that I kind of wanted to be paid
blazing oar
I mean, I'm all for open sourced plugins, but as I said, open sourced and paid d...
have you tried to implement paid support and paid compiled jar?
you pay for support and ease of use
while mainting code available
you can always simply also just make it open source for buyer only
vagrant pike
have you tried to implement paid support and paid compiled jar?
ehh, I don't dont really wanna do that tbh
seems like just more hassle
silver cape
yo hello
vagrant pike
I might look into making the code available to the buyer, but then again, whats really stopping them from redistributing it
also since I'm selling a "finished" product, by providing the code I essentially make myself useless for people who know how to code or have people who do that for them
blazing oar
I'm pretty sure that's what Ghast does
ghast?
blazing oar
I might look into making the code available to the buyer, but then again, whats ...
well that's the whole point of it.
Why should people have to wait for you to add features
or even worse, them ask for features and you deny
Besides, if you don't provide source to buyer, it's in violation of the license
vagrant pike
Besides, if you don't provide source to buyer, it's in violation of the license
true that, but who doesnt lol
blazing oar
so just because others do it, you descend to their level?
vagrant pike
I just cant be bothered to do so tbh
sage robin
Hi
blazing oar
quite opposite actually
vagrant pike
I make plugins on my free time, I just do things how I am used to doing them and what feels easier for me
I dont really side with either "position"
blazing oar
ye, the ac dev
idk him, send links
pseudo sinew
blazing oar
I dont really side with either "position"
got told this not so long ago but: If you see someone beating up another person and don't do anything, you didn't stay neutral, you chose the attacker's side
which is exactly what's happening, there is no "neutral"
pseudo sinew
ever heard of those?
Just because I'm watching the chat doesn't mean I'm on his side?
blazing oar
I make plugins on my free time, I just do things how I am used to doing them and...
And I understand the doing plugins on free time, hell I do it too, but I simply hate selling software and not providing source and having to rely on you.
If you were selling a service, then that's something else, but you aren't. You are selling a one time license to a product which can be discontinued at any time.
blazing oar
Just because I'm watching the chat doesn't mean I'm on his side?
there is no side in the chat
there is a clear choice between open sourcing your product and not. It's a yes or no question, not a "I will stay neutral"
by not doing one, you are choosing the other
(or well, providing src to buyers or not)
As said, if it were a service, I'd understand the not open sourcing, but it isn't.
pseudo sinew
I'm in favor of it being completely open source, but these licenses don't really have any official backing π
blazing oar
Here the guilty party is the buyer not the seller
how so?
pseudo sinew
how so?
You are choosing to buy a product that does not comply with the license.
If you buy licensed products, then they will all be licensed.
blazing oar
If you are providing a service which lets say you pay monthly, the consumer is paying for a service, which he can simply stop paying next month if he dislikes the product or if it doesn't align with what the consumer wants.
When selling a finished software, even if it gets bug fixes or updates, that's just extras that are given as a "gift" by the developer, the purchase already happened, the developer doesn't own the consumer any updates unless specified somewhere. So it makes sense in this case for the consumer to have access to source so they can make their own modifications in case the developer decides to either not add what the consumer needs, or fully stop working on the plugin.
blazing oar
You are choosing to buy a product that does not comply with the license.
So, let me see if I understand, I am TSMC, I will not buy machines from ASML because I don't like their policies. What now?
People not respecting the license is something that started ages ago once spigot added paid plugins to their site.
pseudo sinew
So, let me see if I understand, I am TSMC, I will not buy machines from ASML bec...
But you not TSMC
blazing oar
The same as the plugin's price being undervalued since spigot had a limit at 20 bucks.
pseudo sinew
You have so much alternative
vagrant pike
And I understand the doing plugins on free time, hell I do it too, but I simply ...
if it becomes any "successful" I will fully open-source it, cuz really whats stopping people just compiling it themselves instead of buying it
and as for providing the open-source to the buyer - I just currently don't have that step in my workflow, having to send out (and not forget to do so) (or somehow include it) is the last thing on my mind lol
pseudo sinew
if it becomes any "successful" I will fully open-source it, cuz really whats sto...
This not how works
You need respect license
blazing oar
You have so much alternative
maybe you do, maybe you don't. Maybe all the plugins that have the features I need are all paid and closed source, what now?
pseudo sinew
maybe you do, maybe you don't. Maybe all the plugins that have the features I ne...
Write myself
If you can't just don't add this new feature in your server
blazing oar
if it becomes any "successful" I will fully open-source it, cuz really whats sto...
You can just provide the option for a buyer to ask for it. No need to automatically give them access. Also, that sounds unlikely, why would anyone who has seen huge growth in their plugin suddenly open source it and lose "momentum" in sales? And the whole idea is that 99% of buyers don't know how to compile a plugin.
blazing oar
If you can't just don't add this new feature in your server
so I am limiting myself, because all buyers decide to disrespect the license?
Also, all this in the context that I am just a normal user who is not a developer (like most people)
pseudo sinew
but think u understood my point
The example you gave is applicable here; you are contributing to evil by giving that money
blazing oar
so the issue is sellers not buyers lol
pseudo sinew
issue is both
vagrant pike
the thing is, I can't just have an open repository since then everyone can access it (and compile) and adding everyone to a private repository isn't really viable
and if I include the code alongside with the jar then the buyer gets only one version of it
pseudo sinew
the thing is, I can't just have an open repository since then everyone can acces...
Make private repo
vagrant pike
I said private isnt really viable (imo)
pseudo sinew
If seller is requesting source give him access private repo
pseudo sinew
I said private isnt really viable (imo)
Why
vagrant zinc
Guys can anyone help me with aj leaderboard setup in am having problems
vagrant pike
honestly, I just cant be bothered to add everyone who wants to see it
and also what if they don't have the github account, what if they don't know how to use it, do I need to then guide them how to access it or not, etc etc
blazing oar
the thing is, I can't just have an open repository since then everyone can acces...
how is it not viable, github has quite literally apis for that.
I have seen people have a discord bot that when using a command and providing a GH name, it gives that acc access to the private repo, and as said, you can just do it once people ask for it
as long as you make it clear that people CAN ask for it, it's all good
you can also clearly state that you do not provide support for modified versions of your plugins
blazing oar
https://github.com/artemisac/artemis-minecraft-anticheat
yeah fuck that, it's 1.8
vagrant pike
how is it not viable, github has quite literally apis for that.
I have seen peo...
maybe, yeah, as I also said, it's just not currently in my workflow and I haven't really figured out that part yet
blazing oar
I mean, it's just general
and also my take on it
if it were a service, talk would be different
vagrant pike
again, I am all for open sourced but my biggest issue are the people who abuse it
blazing oar
but you aren't providing a service
either way, as long as you are not using one of those "loaders" that may aswell be called spyware, all good
caugh USpigot
blazing oar
again, I am all for open sourced but my biggest issue are the people who abuse i...
people will always abuse it. If people redistribute it, what are you gonna do?
sue them?
lol
vagrant pike
thats the thing, I can't lol
blazing oar
exactly
pseudo sinew
*caugh* USpigot
My StUpId SkId FoRk BetTeR ThAn PaPeR
sage robin
bro WHO is sending these thru barry
blazing oar
so what's the different
blazing oar
bro WHO is sending these thru barry
that's just barry lol
no one is sending messages
I need help
honest thistleBOT
There is no time to wait! Ask your question @blazing oar!
blazing oar
it's an automatic response
sage robin
I need help
honest thistleBOT
There is no time to wait! Ask your question @sage robin!
blazing oar
My StUpId SkId FoRk BetTeR ThAn PaPeR
USpigot is the stupidiest, sketchiest and biggest scam I know in the whole Plugin community
pseudo sinew
Can i ask to ask to ask?
blazing oar
even bigger than kangaroo
honest thistleBOT
00retromf
Do Not Disturb
blazing oar
I'd advise anyone using USpigot to ditch that shit any day
sage robin
I'd advise anyone using USpigot to ditch that shit any day
sheeesh
blazing oar
if I had the money I'd even pay them to not use it
pseudo sinew
Sometimes I think, maybe I should just create a crappy fork and sell it for money.
violet gyro
Anyone here tried divinemc?
blazing oar
yeah
violet gyro
Leaf using old untested stupid forks patches
Yeah noticed when it corrupted half of the region files π
blazing oar
all leaf does it add a bunch of old untested or rejected patches from paper and pufferfish
blazing oar
benchmarks are also misleading af
pseudo sinew
the best paper fork is
Paper
blazing oar
the best paper fork is
purpur
violet gyro
the best paper fork is
Just paper
blazing oar
but if I had to choose ANY fork, I'd go with purpur
violet gyro
Does purpur do extra stuff for performance or just the quality of life stuff?
blazing oar
does improve performance
at a cost of a bunch of bugs and breaking vanilla compatibility
think just QoL
pseudo sinew
I've noticed
Probably improve performance little bit but every patches untested and experimental
blazing oar
yeah
leaf is one hell of a liability to have in your server lol
I still recall a friend told me there was a massive exploit in leaf because of them using old rejected patches
which were rejected because of these exact exploits
just use paper and done.
pseudo sinew
Your gain is not worth it if you really want handle big player count use separate servers
blazing oar
you can reach leaf performance and even more if you tweak paper's config properly lol
(and sacrifice some vanilla comp. like leaf does)
proper jungle
purpur
why not puffer?
just curious
i was Abt to make a fork for our use case
so am curious which fork it would be ideal for it
as the base one
pseudo sinew
just curious
It doesn't add much it's an overrated software
pseudo sinew
as the base one
You probably don't need to make fork
blazing oar
why not puffer?
what snowy said and I highly dislike their ethics
specially with pufferfish plus shit
and it's closed source
I'd assume pufferfish is doing the same as leaf
using old, untested or rejected patches
pseudo sinew
what snowy said and I highly dislike their ethics
I just said you could do it, I said there were no obstacles, I didn't tell you to do it. What's wrong with my ethical understanding?
blazing oar
Also, just looked at leaf benchmarks, very interesting that they use GraalVM for their tests
pseudo sinew
I just said you could do it, I said there were no obstacles, I didn't tell you t...
I definitely don't support it.
sage robin
@blazing oar back mb, back to the topic please
wdym about LeafMC not being so good
I've heard so much good about it + seen it in action.
pseudo sinew
I've heard so much good about it + seen it in action.
Dogshit
Just dogshit
If you want data lose use Leaf
All patches coming from another broken Paper forks
sage robin
I have 2 main servers;
- Lobby
- Survival
sage robin
I have 2 main servers;
- Lobby
- Survival
I use Pufferfish on my lobby, and Paper on my main survival server.
winter compass
π
winter compass
where the nut tag
sage robin
or are there incompatibiltiies?
sage robin
where the nut tag
nitro boosts cuh π₯
winter compass
lol
pseudo sinew
would it be as easy as replacing jars
Probably yeah
tacit nova
but Mr cube will mute me
Rightfully so
sage robin
Rightfully so
tacit nova
This ain't ragebait son
blazing oar
I just said you could do it, I said there were no obstacles, I didn't tell you t...
was speaking about pufferfish, and their ethics
pseudo sinew
was speaking about pufferfish, and their ethics
Sorry i understand wrong
tacit nova
also this isnt a nice way to talk to a HibiscusMC defender
Currently I don't have a bunch to do with HMC, but it's a really nice project, glad you like it
analog marlin
hehe pee nut
winter compass
hehe pee nut
i see what u did there
winter compass
π
molten glen
magic summit
https://streamable.com/bd9drj
Did that for the Commit history of ASL
tough turret
Am I allowed to use free spawns from spigot , put them into a server setup and sell it?
solar sinew
Am I allowed to use free spawns from spigot , put them into a server setup and s...
like configurations? it depends on the license
tough turret
like configurations? it depends on the license
Its a world
Should I send the link?
I dont see any license there
solar sinew
I dont see any license there
then no, by default it's All Rights Reserved
tough turret
check the license
Where?
solar sinew
ask the author
tough turret
We invite you to explore and enjoy the Donut SMP spawn, and we look forward to seeing the incredible creations that emerge from this shared resource. Thank you for your continued support and dedication to the Minecraft community.
Could this line mean I am allowed to use?
solar sinew
probably not
I mean it doesn't matter unless they sue you
but Donut SMP may threaten
if you're not sure you should contact them directly
tough turret
DonutSMP?
solar sinew
if no license is provided then legally you cannot even distribute it yourself
tough turret
Should I send the link?
solar sinew
sure
tough turret
How do you know
solar sinew
because it doesn't have any license information attached
so by default all its rights are reserved to the author
tough turret
Is there any feature on spigot to direct message the author?
solar sinew
if it was MIT for example you could sell it
tough turret
if it was MIT for example you could sell it
I asked him, lets see what/if he replies
He was laste seen Dec 31, 2025
@solar sinew Do you know if I can use spawns from planetminecraft?
solar sinew
<@670122070448799774> Do you know if I can use spawns from planetminecraft?
just read the license information
if it doesn't explicitly say you can resell it or use it however you want, then you can't legally resell it
tough turret
Alright thank you
boreal escarp
Am I allowed to use free spawns from spigot , put them into a server setup and s...
Free doesnt mean it has a comercial license.
strange estuary
I'm starting to notice how many videos im now seeing with ai scripts
it's kinda sucky to be able to recognize it, like it doesn't change any aspect of the video but something about it just hurts me lol
trim raft
https://fxtwitter.com/Dexerto/status/2009407267863752719?s=20
I was hiking a mountain and got lost, so i asked a stranger where we were, he showed me this video and that's when I knew, we were at the peak
pseudo sinew
if it was MIT for example you could sell it
You can't use MIT license in plugins π€£
solar sinew
You can't use MIT license in plugins π€£
does spigot disallow it
i don't use that website at all so idk
pseudo sinew
Oh sorry this not even plugin lol
solar sinew
but you can obviously just publish your code as MIT in general
so you can definitely have MIT plugins
i assume you're saying spigot plugins can't be MIT
pseudo sinew
i assume you're saying spigot plugins can't be MIT
Yeah
solar sinew
<@670122070448799774> https://open.spotify.com/track/6gDdbYPTtykyvTQBP6HSrM?si=8...
i listen to worse shit so i ain't even gonna say nun
beat is fire
sage robin
i listen to worse shit so i ain't even gonna say nun
wym is it ass? π
solar sinew
it's actually hard to describe
i think it's just not my style
like
a lot of the adjectives i'd use to describe it also apply to other music i listen to
lazy, unrhythmic, unmelodic, unharmonious
but it's not like those are required for music to be good
so i think it's really just that i don't find the lyrics to be very interesting
i guess i just can't relate to it at all
nor agree with it
sage robin
eh I feel you
not exactly with the same taste
but everyone around me irl
be listening to the same mainstream shit
I listen to mostly underground/loud music
solar sinew
it's the sort of thing where if i talked to the author, me and him would have nothing meaningful in common
sage robin
which is mad uncommon here
solar sinew
be listening to the same mainstream shit
i mean he has a million on spotify
that's pretty mainstream isn't it
solar sinew
I listen to mostly underground/loud music
underground stuff is your local bands or some shit you only find on bandcamp
uon gotta try to b super niche w ur music taste
i enjoy a fair bit of mainstream stuff while also following artists with <10 monthly listeners
sage robin
uon gotta try to b super niche w ur music taste
me because I heard niche
π
but yh i get what u mean
IMO**
music taste is very important
for someones character development
ongong
solar sinew
that's true for me at least
what i listen to definitely has shaped me
politicallly, philosophically, interpersonally, all that
i guess that's to be expected when i listen to music like this so much π
oh yeah
got this beautiful piece
but yeh yk if u wanna b able to say u rlly listen to smth underground go look up what kinda music halls and venues u got near u
they usually have an instagram
and they're usually quite diverse
lots near me host diff starting rappers
sage robin
sorry sorry
muted fern
need the corner again?
strange estuary
i listen to worse shit so i ain't even gonna say nun
I feel this
sage robin
need the corner again?
no
muted fern
is it not os?
sage robin
is it not os?
wdym
muted fern
add it yourself is what im getting at
strange estuary
open source π€βοΈ
strange estuary
can u add minimessage to DeluxeTags π
Runway would let you do this btw
sage robin
Runway would let you do this btw
yeah but waiting for v2
strange estuary
ah
sage robin
then Ill add it to all my servers
strange estuary
yea im waiting to update my setup for it
muted fern
sage robin
https://github.com/HelpChat/DeluxeTags
ty
strange estuary
mr. cube, are you more of a bearded dragon or tarantula person?
muted fern
Can't say at this time
sage robin
mr. cube
muted fern
violates my nda
sage robin
are you gonna do papi on hytale?
strange estuary
oh! that's one heck of an NDA
muted fern
I can't predict the future
strange estuary
π
sage robin
@muted fern where are you from
muted fern
earth
muted fern
muted fern
2 are
muted fern
that is a banable offfence
sage robin
nah bruh I legit put a grain or sum shit
solar sinew
solar sinew
electric shock between 2 people
muted fern
solar sinew
highschool physics has fun demonstrations
boreal escarp
Start of the month vs end
muted fern
less is more
gray gust
Hand Draw Logo Speed Art Tutorial --> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t74GYaAh-_c
@weary wadi
weary wadi
<@272605681490591744>
Your obsession with me is flattering
weary wadi
Who's your daddy?
umbral mist
how is a pixelartist?
gray gust
I can do all designs
winter compass
warped bolt
sage robin
blazing oar
yeah but waiting for v2
well, I will be uploading a temporary version bump to modrinth that adds support for 1.21.11 for v1, since many people asked for it. I'd expect v2 to be finished by end next week hopefully.
cc @strange estuary
sage robin
well, I will be uploading a temporary version bump to modrinth that adds support...
im glad
i wont download runway until v2 tbh
dont need anyth from v1
sage robin
nah but it was still impressive
i remember I used it like early 2025
lee put me on it
it saved me lots of time with editing lang files
and its a lot less confusing than ItsMyconfig
blazing oar
and its a lot less confusing than ItsMyconfig
well, v2 pushes it closer to ItsMyConfig due to having more advanced placeholders... but that's also why there will be a web editor..
And I am thinking on potentially still having the old format implemented... aka you could use "legacy-placeholders" and use the v1 format....
but not sure about that last part... I don't like holding on to legacy stuff
sage robin
my definition of confusing is the way the placeholders parse
like for ex when I wanted to use nexo glyphs with itsMyconfig
i had to change my default minecraft & nexo font
which was really annoying but glad im not using it anymore
blazing oar
i had to change my default minecraft & nexo font
wdym? Care to elaborate?
how does runway's way fix your confusion?
sage robin
to be honest with you i quite literally have no idea
on ItsMyConfig it parsed glyphs as the raw symbol not img
but on runway it parsed it perfectly fine
blazing oar
bruh
nexo is parsing stuff by intercepting packets
so, in theory, runway wouldn't conflict with it yeah
but rlly weird behaviour from itsmyconfig
tbf only found out about that plugin ages after I created mine
winter compass
π π
blazing oar
well pretty sure mine is older
Runway was released 2 years ago
ItsMyconfig 10 months ago
ItsMyConfig got more traction due to it being in spigot
but it is HELLA limiting lol
if I recall they don't handle not even a third of the things runway v1 handles
they only handle like messages I think
winter compass
whats itsmyconfig for
blazing oar
basically copy of Runway
sage robin
ItsMyConfig got more traction due to it being in spigot
not really
the reason ItsMyConfig has so much servers and traction
is due to the owner forcing everyone to use it with his other configs
he has popular configs
most being the EssentialsX config + Quests config
every top server uses the quests config
blazing oar
is due to the owner forcing everyone to use it with his other configs
oh lmao
sage robin
blossom, etc, they all use quests config by him
blazing oar
and what is runway
you hurt my feelings
sage robin
which requires you to have ItsMyConfig
bro afonso
how u come up w the name
runway
only thing I can think of is this song https://open.spotify.com/track/3DK6m7It6Pw857FcQftMds?si=9b58ad6512704359
blazing oar
damn I am so happy that Runway v2 is way less scuffed than this for conditionals
winter compass
you hurt my feelings
am sorry but π
never looked into em
i heard of em but idk
blazing oar
this conditional in runway v2 would literally be
name:
type: CONDITIONAL
condition: "<papi:vault_eco_balance> >= 100"
ifTrue: "<green>Requirement passed!"
ifElse: "<red>Don't have enough money"
you can have multiple conditions inside that condition, you can use && and ||, etc.
even use other placeholders from runway itself
the only thing that might actually be more scuffed in runway would be having different messages depending on condition
OH WAIT no, ignore that
blazing oar
damn I am so happy that Runway v2 is way less scuffed than this for conditionals
the exact replica of this in runway would be:
placeholder-with-requirement:
type: SWITCH
case:
- condition: "<papi:vault_eco_balance> < 100"
value: "<red>Don't have enough money"
- condition: "<papi:player_name> != "Skyssy"
value: "<red>You are not Skyssy"
default: "<green>Requirement passed!"
blazing oar
the exact replica of this in runway would be:
```yaml
placeholder-with-requireme...
Although maybe naming it a switch is bad practice.... where is @long summit to judge me
blazing oar
https://modrinth.com/plugin/runway
Tldr; Add minimessage, papi and miniplaceholders support anywhere. Even to plugins that don't support it. It also allows you to create custom placeholders, which can be used in several ways, for instance, obviouslee uses it to centralize all its plugins messages/configs. In v2, placeholders are getting more powerful as shown in my messages above for instance. In addition to supporting more places where things gets parsed (like name tags, etc), and also intercepting guis, essentially allowing you to override other plugin's guis to avoid limitations like not being able to set models, not supporting nexo, not being able to set an item to multiple slots, etc. also coming in v2. Together with a web editor and support for Nexo Maker in the future.
winter compass
soo, they simply add minimessage formatting to everything
blazing oar
soo, they simply add minimessage formatting to everything
that's the least powerful feature but yes. Runway does. ItsMyConfig is essentially only messages and some other tiny stuff
sage robin
@blazing oar the only thing I'd recommend for runway is better thread style for the modrinth page
tacit nova
@blazing oar this would be a banger feature https://www.spigotmc.org/resources/triton-translate-your-server.30331/
blazing oar
<@310721759110496257> the only thing I'd recommend for runway is better thread s...
What's wrong with the style lol
I will be updating it in v2 but still, it provides information
So what's the issue
blazing oar
<@310721759110496257> this would be a banger feature https://www.spigotmc.org/re...
Technically already possible
sage robin
What's wrong with the style lol
nothing you'd prob get more downloads if u fixed it up tho
too basic
blazing oar
localized:
type: MATCH
input: "<papi:player_locale>"
case:
- condition: "es"
value: "Hola"
- condition: "pt"
value: "Ola!"
default: "Hello!"
FYI wrote it on the phone and don't recall exact syntax but smt like this. @tacit nova
blazing oar
nothing you'd prob get more downloads if u fixed it up tho
"Fixed it", proceeds to not provide any input
tacit nova
```yaml
localized:
type: MATCH
input: "<papi:player_locale>"
case:
- con...
where do you get the lang selection from?
sage robin
"Fixed it", proceeds to not provide any input
damn okay lemme yap:
- add images of before / after using runway (can show 1 shitty looking lang and after runway is a nice looking lang)
- add images of how simple your config is (screenshots of vscode editing config)
blazing oar
where do you get the lang selection from?
The player_locale? Idk, just invented a papi placeholder there, I assume there exists one
tacit nova
ahh
I think that could be one of your biggest selling points as well
You just really need to show all the amazing capabilities on the page, some screenshots like mf said
blazing oar
damn okay lemme yap:
- add images of before / after using runway (can show 1 shi...
Modrinth has a gallery feature for that, maybe obviouslee provides some cool screenshots I can use
sage robin
yee
blazing oar
You just _really_ need to show all the amazing capabilities on the page, some sc...
Well the problem with having such a powerful plugin is that I lose track of where and how it can actually be used lmao.
And even the things I do recall, I am scared to overwhelm people with information on the thread.
tacit nova
It's very important that the users immediately see all the capabilities, not in great detail but everything has to be touched on
blazing oar
Well, my brain is too brain fucked from my maths exam that I just had, so yeah, I am open to any feedback and suggestions on things to include (and how)
I also feel I gotta revamp the logo, like, keep it same but modernized a tiny bit? Idk, I am not a good designer
Nor can I do threads like ItsMyConfig does
tacit nova
I like the current logo