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blazing oar
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overall

ripe blade
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Yeah it is, i agree

blazing oar
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it's not a bad thing

ripe blade
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Will work on it further anyways, so using free libraries were the fastest way to go πŸ˜‚

blazing oar
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just not good if you are a web designer

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then being generic is bad

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otherwise, who cares tbh

ripe blade
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Nah im not web designer

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I sometimes try, but i prefer backend

sage robin
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@zenith iris see me personally

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I feel this should be "Pollo"

zenith iris
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What? πŸ˜‚

sage robin
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nvm bro you dont get the reference 😭

zenith iris
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i d have

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is us ref?

zenith iris
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i am french

zenith iris
boreal escarp
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@zenith iris the font could use some touch up for N M W.
N can be like the lower case n
Since the font is 5 pixels tall, M can have a line on 2nd pixel, and W on 4th

zenith iris
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i see what you want say, but i do respect 3 pixels wide fort letters

wary fossil
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who pinged me

grand dirge
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Donald Trump

analog marlin
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hello Mr President

naive agate
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@trail owl @next elm your requests are not valid read the rules you cant hire to recruit through our service channels.

next elm
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Lovely

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Can I redo the post? I wasn't "recruiting" anyone I just need someone to build for me.

next elm
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Thank you kindly

trail owl
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What's wrong about that

proper jungle
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ig he means "Requests should not be for members to join a 'team', instead should be for a predefined project."

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service team requests are prohibited

arctic cobalt
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@lilac holly dmed

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probably going to be something stupid anyway

trail owl
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sounds more like he just misunderstood what the request is really about

olive dust
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would anyone please help me fix my menu for my ranks πŸ™

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i have tried for 2 days now.

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πŸ™

plain sky
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@muted fern made an online editor for deluxemenus β€” dm.modrinth.black
can ya drop a link in the docs or pin it? right now only russian, but i'm working on multi-lang rn

lament pier
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hi

olive dust
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can anyone help me? that didn't help

plain sky
solar sinew
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this is not a support channel

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you can tell because it's not under the "support" category

olive dust
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I have asked, not even the plug-in crew have tried to help me or answer me.

sage robin
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πŸ₯œ

olive dust
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I got someone to help me, but thanks

winter compass
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πŸ‘

winter compass
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@solemn wave @magic summit Isee you two have downvoted my showcase, what's to be improved pepe_hmm

dry cliff
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they dont like you

winter compass
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well, Sytex maybe

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but idk Andre lol

magic summit
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You pretty much reposted the same repository

winter compass
vagrant pike
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the fok

analog marlin
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i think a bigger budget will help

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and extra time

vagrant pike
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I even went the, possibly, more difficult route, rewriting the patches on a new version instead of upgrading and even then it took me like 30 minutes at max

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and they want more than 10 bobux, smh

blazing oar
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is this a bot or smt

paper dagger
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anyone know how to turn off this "chilling" shit everytime i join a discord?

vagrant pike
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and I need custom patches that won't fit every server

sterile parrot
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I mean 10 bucks is still low even for 30 minutes

vagrant pike
long summit
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Then you are being underpaid

woven prairie
sullen sorrel
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oh no
even M0dii is getting the heat now πŸ₯²

sullen sorrel
vagrant pike
woven prairie
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W

vagrant pike
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it's 4250€/month before taxes

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so around 2,6k/month after

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39,5% taxes aint no joke

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from what I've seen it's quite good considering I only have ~4 years of (job?) experience

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some seniors don't even get that much

long summit
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So less than $20 after taxes? When people say hourly rate it is usually before taxes
You do have a normal pay

vagrant pike
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yeah well, it's ~24.5€/h before, ~14.8€/h after

boreal escarp
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ha, I guess I'm not paid that bad, I'm at around 13 after tax thonk

long summit
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I am mostly tax exempt and I am very happy with that pepeLaugh

blazing oar
blazing oar
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in luxembourg max tax is like 42% but there are drastic cuts when married

blazing oar
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watch out matt, you'd be canceled if this was like 2023

long summit
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I mean assuming he is and assuming he isn't is the same in this case haha

blazing oar
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well uh

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yesno

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cause if he is married and still has 40% taxes its crazy

blazing oar
pulsar sun
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Since when did this start

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I mean I'd understand if it's family (parents/siblings)

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but can have a family without being married, what

naive agate
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Anthony is married with 5 kids

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kinda wild

pulsar sun
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then who the hell are they

naive agate
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found out two days ago

pulsar sun
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your adopted wife???

naive agate
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huh

blazing oar
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my whole point is that you can have children even without being married?

solar sinew
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okay but unlikely

blazing oar
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nowdays not so unlikely

pulsar sun
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why is this becoming a normal thing tho

blazing oar
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people sometimes have children by accident but are not prepared to be married

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or are separated, also happens nowadays

trim raft
vagrant pike
vagrant pike
proper jungle
long summit
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You gotta ping a moderator not me 😭

proper jungle
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oh u as staff cannot remove it?

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ffs

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I thought u can

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sorry then

long summit
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Nope only trusted or admins

eternal apex
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@umbral mist request paid needs budget

proper jungle
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ah okay, again sorry for the ping them

long summit
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All good, I don't mind pings just can't do anything about it ;p

long summit
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Aka the company has no way to pay taxes in my country so I get exemption on vat

umbral mist
blazing oar
blazing oar
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It's my home country but god do I hate it

long summit
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The no vat exemption is the same in most countries when you're working for a company that is based on a different one, it's not a Portugal only thing

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(within the EU is probably a little different)

blazing oar
long summit
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When you are an employee the employer pays your vat, but I mean as a contractor, since you can't get employed without a company having a branch in your country

blazing oar
long summit
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Yes

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For me to be an emplyee I'd have to move to the UK or them open a company in Portugal

sage robin
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just live in UAE

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0 taxes 😎

light scaffold
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0 taxes
0 personal freedoms
7 slaves 😎

sterile parrot
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but @long summit if you are a contractor, you’d still pay taxes in your home country no? as in over your income

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how are you exempt from those?

long summit
blazing oar
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otherwise yeah... cooked

analog marlin
wooden magnet
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Not here.

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That's nice.

sage robin
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why did you ping reply to a message from 3 days ago

naive agate
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🀣

wooden magnet
sage robin
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nutcore gonna beat noti bot πŸ”₯🀣

wooden magnet
# naive agate thats a bot

People just don't have any other jobs than doing these lame things then. It's already 2025, seems like people keep falling these stupid over and over.
I guess they can opened discord but not youtube telling about these shits.

naive agate
sage robin
wooden magnet
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These nutcore bot.

naive agate
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Noti on top bud

sage robin
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πŸ˜”

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its a private discord bot

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for pnut

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check this feedback system got made

naive agate
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mid

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for sure

sage robin
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nuh uh

naive agate
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You should try components v2

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you could make this 10x better

sage robin
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whats that

naive agate
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check this

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and you can place buttons insides / select dropdowns ect

sage robin
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oh wow

wooden magnet
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Why Noti bot seems to be very slick and modern? Very smooth looking.

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Maybe because the creator of the bot is genius?

sage robin
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πŸ˜”

naive agate
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LMAO

wooden magnet
sage robin
wooden magnet
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I dare you send it here.

sage robin
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im good bro i dont want the cube to eat me

sage robin
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looks really cool

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makes embeds look outdated catpoint

naive agate
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yee

sage robin
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when did they add that

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/ since when was that possible

naive agate
sage robin
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never heard of it

naive agate
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you can design them here easily

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for the layout

wooden magnet
sage robin
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no gif perms πŸ˜”

wooden magnet
# sage robin

I'll just left because the owner being an ignorant brats.

naive agate
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what is that gif

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um

wooden magnet
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Not sticky enough like mine, auch.

sage robin
zenith wind
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Hello im Ath!

wooden magnet
zenith wind
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hey Hypen πŸ™‚

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yeah my bad haha

wooden magnet
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Nice to meet you Ath

zenith wind
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there took it off

wooden magnet
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You are amazing Ath! Thanks for understanding :D

zenith wind
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no worries πŸ˜‰

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i miss read the banner i was like oops wrong channel haha

wooden magnet
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Hahaha

zenith wind
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would you by anny chance know why im experiencing this problem ?

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i posted it in general plugins

wooden magnet
sage robin
proper jungle
lilac holly
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i just want an small system with 1 command...

blazing ivy
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.

solar sinew
solar sinew
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per help

boreal escarp
proper jungle
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otherwise I would have to pay 21%

naive agate
sage robin
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17 years ago (when i was born)

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tax never existed here πŸ˜›

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and its lowk funny seeing people geek out over paying taxes LMAO

naive agate
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I pay 50% in taxes in california pretty much

naive agate
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AFK Service for Your Minecraft Farms β€” Only $2/hour! honestly this is crazy

slate current
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Hello everyone

sage robin
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my feedback portal for the nut is done

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πŸ₯œ

naive agate
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Looks nice

long summit
long summit
blazing oar
long summit
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I mean yeah you need to register, you are just exempt from paying it

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Also 17% PepeHands

blazing oar
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Luxembourg baby xD

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The only downside is housing prices

long summit
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That's an issue everywhere, over here it's horrible

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Portugal has the worse house price to income ratio of all countries in the EU :')))

blazing oar
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I was amazed when I went grocery shopping in portugal (haven't gone grocery shopping there in ages) and the prices were the same as in luxembourg and sometimes even more expensive...

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Like... how tf do people even survive?

boreal escarp
long summit
dire star
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@finite kiln Wait did you actually got scammed?

finite kiln
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Yea

subtle oracle
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Who pays VAT on their income?

finite kiln
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Didnt want anyone else to fall for it

dire star
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I asked cuz he has a active request right now

finite kiln
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Yea yea thats why I sent the message in the channel

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Right below him

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Sherlock

dire star
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Thanks for that.

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Its really sad to see people just scam out here

winter compass
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@finite kiln use /report

finite kiln
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He is bypassing a ban from before

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@ispaa is his original account

winter compass
finite kiln
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Already got that banned

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Cant reopen that one

winter compass
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create new

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and report

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and mention this detail

finite kiln
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Eh aint got time for that

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Already had to wait 3 days earlier for mods to "start" work on the report

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Just dont want anyone else to fall for it thats why the message

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Aint even looking to recover money or anything

blazing oar
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your message will simply be lost in this channel

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that legit helps no one

coral wren
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Tho @finite kiln how did he scam, like he didn't pay for your job?

boreal escarp
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here as a simple worker you lose 45% of the salry p.p

long summit
naive agate
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we still talking about taxes yall

boreal escarp
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I could live with just half the taxes πŸ₯²

coral wren
boreal escarp
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welp time to find out if same benefits apply here as well πŸ₯²

naive agate
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Hey @finite kiln I dont see your report

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I handle reports

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Ah its an older report?

finite kiln
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Search sourmc

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A guy named mason

naive agate
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We already handled that report

finite kiln
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Yea this is his alt

naive agate
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Thanks for the report yes already handled

finite kiln
coral wren
naive agate
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Oh

finite kiln
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Owner of sourmc

naive agate
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Can you open a new report with proof?

finite kiln
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In the bio

coral wren
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Rg you should create a ticket and handle it in there instead. Rather than here

naive agate
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^

finite kiln
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I aint looking to recover money or anything and frankly dont have time to discuss the matter all over again

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You can check the last report and compare his bio

naive agate
finite kiln
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Nah he is solo, i know the coowner

naive agate
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I dont see reports of both being Owner

finite kiln
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@subtle pagoda is the co owner

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And besides that the work was for sourmc, liability was on both owners

coral wren
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Ticketsss guys 😭

finite kiln
naive agate
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Most likely will say it must go through our reports so it can be reviewed properly

coral wren
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Seems like discord ip ban don't work then

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I don't want to sleep let's be talk guys 😭

solar sinew
tame sierra
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says hello and introduce thyself

grand dirge
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hello

stark rapids
proper jungle
# solar sinew

yea it's cool af. I firstly thought it's a photo edit in Photoshop or something, then i read the description

pseudo sigil
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Papi update soon? πŸ‘€ i see 2 people in vc working on it

eternal apex
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yes we're adding dragons to papi

pseudo sigil
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YAYYY

eternal apex
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and loot boxes

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and ads

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mainly just ads

pseudo sigil
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Oh thats a bit less cool

eternal apex
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no it's ok

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I don't mind

pseudo sigil
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What you advertising?

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5gum?

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Stimulate your senses

eternal apex
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probs just alcohol, cigarettes and gambling

pseudo sigil
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I mean hey at least u know what u want.

eternal apex
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we're adding component support but I think the go will be to just add a click event to every replaced component that takes u to an ad

muted fern
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with a skip button but u have to solve a captcha first

fallow crow
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pig made of gold

fallow crow
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@eternal apex what goes on in the sacred VC?

eternal apex
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smoke and mirrors

harsh rivet
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😢

fallow crow
alpine tide
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Hi guys! My some files are locked They have dennied my access. I installed new window 11 after that this is happening. WOuld anyone help me to get rid of this problem

sage robin
winter compass
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someone sent me this^

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:3

trim raft
blazing oar
gilded rose
blazing oar
harsh rivet
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that's fair

blazing oar
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But the price does look better if it's just organizational and writing

gilded rose
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thats quite literally all my request is about

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ion need devs i have a team of 6

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i just cant design an entire server that offers 20+ features that all tie into one another & gameplay progression

harsh rivet
# gilded rose ion need devs i have a team of 6

you've written game designer/Creative indivisual, are you looking for people who've already worked on games and with a strong portfolio or just anyone who's creative even without a strong portfolio in that area?

gilded rose
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damn does nobody read

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ima add a tl;dr because holy shit

harsh rivet
gilded rose
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i mean fair enough

wary willow
naive agate
naive agate
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@barren pine cracked servers are not allowed

quick moth
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hello

barren pine
fallow crow
muted fern
kind sorrel
warped raptor
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@solar sinew i love your death animations

solar sinew
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thanks!

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not animations per se, it's a realtime physics simulation, but thank you :D

vagrant pike
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looks nice. one suggestion would be to take into the account the "hit velocity" (not sure how to say it), so when you kill from south, the body would fall in north'ish direction, not just keel over/succumb and die

solar sinew
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I'm not making this as a full plugin

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its absolutely not gonna have any sort of user facing configuration or anything

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it's moreso a library

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but that is one of the things it is being used for!

harsh rivet
true stirrup
true stirrup
sage robin
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@solar sinew your music taste buns

magic summit
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Cloudflare has global network issues.
Yaaaaaaaaay

halcyon quartz
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Hello

sage robin
harsh rivet
magic summit
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Seems resolved now

long summit
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3rd massive downtimes this month or so, the web is doing great pepeLaugh

harsh rivet
pulsar mica
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hi

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my name is bob123

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ok

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heiio

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heiiooooooo

vagrant pike
proper jungle
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bros casually smoking his...

vagrant pike
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gamified ads

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crazy

rich hornet
# vagrant pike

did you reduce it to 700 now? When I had this last month, it was 5000

strange estuary
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We love actual innovation πŸ™

solar sinew
# true stirrup Is it prod ish ready

its performant enough for prod if you don't stack like hundreds of ragdolls in 1 pile. just lots of things I wanna improve about the physics engine tho

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its not as stable as I want it to be and that's definitely something I'm gonna work on over the coming months

true stirrup
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yea just being able to do funky death anims with physics would be pretty bonkers already

solar sinew
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its all available on GitHub

solar sinew
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I do not want it to turn into a burden 😭

true stirrup
solar sinew
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yes

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for the physics engine I will

umbral mist
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I need advice because my minecraft server is getting new members, but they leave since the chat is empty. What should I do?

trim raft
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dull lake
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i really need new ideas for plugins to work on

vagrant pike
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cool, I can't push new changes to the repo B)

young mortar
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average GitHub moment

vagrant pike
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now git is (partly) down lmao

young mortar
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couldn't be me with my self-hosted Gitea and GitLab

young mortar
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that is wild though lol, thought CloudFlare was back up for the last like 5 hours

vagrant pike
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cloudflare seems to be working fine rn

young mortar
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yeah so why github down 😭

vagrant pike
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need to upgrade my home server at some point hardware-vise

young mortar
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oh you can run Gitea on anything, it's straight Go with all the optional stuff easily disable-able

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i absolutely adore it, we just use GitLab at my work and it's aight

vagrant pike
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yeah I had gitlab in my previous workplace

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now we have gh enterprise

young mortar
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ooh yeah i liked github enterprise at my older job

vagrant pike
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it was kind of weird going from (personal projects) github to gitlab for work

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it's decent thou

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not like bitbucket

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tho tbf I havent used bitbucket much

vagrant pike
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I just cba doing anything on it rn

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it's just a data storage at this point

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don't want to pay n amount of bobux for cloud storage when I can get a few cheap hdds running in raid

young mortar
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yeah exactly and just toss in a little docker container of Gitea with like 200MB of RAM and a few GBs of storage, no problem

vagrant pike
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I just run a few things on it

plucky ocean
plucky ocean
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thanks for all the years of work

naive agate
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and Pi-hole

young mortar
naive agate
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gitea is pretty sick

vagrant pike
vagrant pike
vagrant pike
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all in all its a good idea to have all my projects outside of github lol

vagrant pike
# naive agate black friday

haha yeah I was thinking about it too, just not sure if there are going to be any actually good SSDs on sale

naive agate
young mortar
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yeah but that was last year lol

naive agate
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happy

young mortar
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now there's tariffs and a memory shortage, i saw an article that samsung increased prices by like 60% or something lol

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although Modii isn't american, so maybe they're a little better off

vagrant pike
# vagrant pike all in all its a good idea to have all my projects outside of github lol

primeagen had a video on this topic if any of you watch him lol
https://youtu.be/7gCCXCSs734?si=VvE8Qs-pZ4LWnUC9

https://twitch.tv/ThePrimeagen - I Stream on Twitch

https://twitter.com/terminaldotshop - Want to order coffee over SSH?
ssh terminal.shop

Become Backend Dev: https://boot.dev/prime
(plus i make courses for them)

This is also the best way to support me is to support yourself becoming a better backend engineer.

Great News? Want me to resea...

β–Ά Play video
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cheapest 2tb ssd I looked up in my nearest store is around 130€ rn

naive agate
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rip

vagrant pike
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150

naive agate
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damn

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m.2?

vagrant pike
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sata

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im out of m.2 slots lol

naive agate
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time to get 4tb

vagrant pike
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4tb samsung 870 evo sata is 420€

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buh

naive agate
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scam

vagrant pike
naive agate
vagrant pike
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thats 486 usd btw

naive agate
vagrant pike
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there are some cheaper ones lol

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just not sure how much I would trust them

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wait wtf thats the same screenshot

naive agate
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gg

vagrant pike
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there

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anyways

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gotta wait for sale

naive agate
blazing oar
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Why ssd?

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Isn't a HDD better for these cases

young mortar
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i mean it's only better in that it's generally cheaper to buy in higher quantities

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HDDs are like, way worse for speed and performance and longevity lol

blazing oar
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Longevity? Thought hdds survived longer than ssds

analog marlin
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nah gotta factor in the mechanical aspect

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in theory they can handle more total read/write cycles but they break down for other reasons far sooner than an ssd gets too much data written to it

wary willow
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they are the cheapest "quality" brand I found

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NV3 lineup

blazing oar
sage robin
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wow new discord settings

ripe blade
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finally a decent discord update

proper jungle
harsh rivet
solar whale
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hello

boreal escarp
blazing oar
vagrant pike
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so, what is Hytale trying to be? Sandbox RPG?

magic summit
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By the looks of it pretty much everything...

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I still think they should've let it die...

vagrant pike
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one can only hope there will be any ROI for them lol

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I'm sure there will be some playerbase tho

harsh rivet
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wow gemini 3 is just something else

grand dirge
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yea and its going to get better

harsh rivet
true stirrup
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or am i missing something

sage robin
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new icons onthe side n whatnot

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the old 1 was so ass either way

true stirrup
sage robin
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its a W

shadow stratus
harsh rivet
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carnage

vagrant pike
shadow stratus
shadow stratus
vagrant pike
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wdym

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those are apps that are running on a server that I have at home

solemn carbon
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Hello

boreal escarp
sage robin
blazing oar
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I'd presume it will be something like roblox in the long term

sage robin
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bro whos the goat of making logos πŸ˜”

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I been searching for so damn long, everyone that DMs me from request paid sends me some AI generated shit 😭

true stirrup
#

but last time i checked, it seemed like he had a massive queue

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hes sent his stuff in showcase before

sage robin
#

I need a goat asap πŸ˜”

true stirrup
#

gotta drop a fat stack

sage robin
#

money isn't my issue bro 😭

#

its genuinely just finding a goat

#

i've had 10+ people reach out showing me either something disappointing or AI generated

true stirrup
#

welp, idk i would just scroll thru showcase or bbb or wtvr and look for someone not specifically looking for work

strange estuary
#

1.21.11 pre release 1

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No way we are in .11

sage robin
strange estuary
#

Yo

young mortar
#

(in 6 months probably)

pliant ice
true stirrup
naive agate
#

Also only allowed to post your own work in #showcase if you didn’t make it delete it please

frosty kernel
#

Like self-promotion, I mean the message? If I remove it, is there still a problem?

naive agate
frosty kernel
naive agate
#

Please delete or I will

#

read our rules

frosty kernel
naive agate
#

Correct

frosty kernel
naive agate
#

πŸ‘

frosty kernel
naive agate
#

Yes

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And no ads like that

frosty kernel
naive agate
#

Aka the messages

frosty kernel
# naive agate Aka the messages

So I can't advertise, but if I get a commission for a plugin, for example, can I upload a video of the plugin as a simple showcase?

naive agate
#

Sure but it can’t be a plug video saying order here ect yk

frosty kernel
naive agate
#

Yup

red plume
#

Is PMC down for anyone else?

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Or extremely slow

zealous rivet
#

can anyone help me fix my minecraft it keeps saying its offline and wont let me change my skin or access my marketplace

blazing oar
#

this is not a bedrock support discord

#

You are better off contacting Mojang's support

zealous rivet
#

oh my bad

blazing oar
#

But there is a chance it's just mojang's auth servers that are offline

lavish zephyr
#

Hello!

vagrant pike
naive agate
#

like username lookup with ID

vagrant pike
naive agate
vagrant pike
#

oh, you meant like you pass the ID and you want to find the username?

sage robin
#

wait nvm you already have that lol

vagrant pike
sage robin
#

you fr

#

55 tools is insane icl

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do a ascii-style text generator

#

this is the only website i fw and its kinda ass icl

blazing oar
vagrant pike
#

this was pain in the ass

vagrant pike
naive agate
blazing oar
blazing oar
vagrant pike
#

now you have a shittier version of it

sage robin
#

thanks

blazing oar
vagrant pike
#

the rest is not that complicated

#

I have a pretty good template/components for everything pre-made, so just a small amount of tinkering

blazing oar
#

Makes sense

vagrant pike
#

usually I'd implement something from scratch if it's trivial or seems interesting, but generally I'd just use a lib to save some time

true stirrup
#

If you actually want people to use the tools, might be a good idea to do something for SEO, so they arent invisible atleast

vagrant pike
#

and there are some data that I don't want to paste around in random websites or even search for a "tool" when I know I have it already lol

blazing oar
#

@raw crag quite confused with your request, might just be a misuse of the term developer. But are you looking for a configurator or an actual developer that makes plugins etc...?

vagrant pike
#

as a developer I hate configurating plugins

blazing oar
#

it's easier to find 2 different people specializing in each thing

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than a single person with both

#

most developers hate configs

#

lol

winter compass
#

am bery bery good config, trust

winter compass
#

and am juicy

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cause am a melon

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and i make cool hosting lists

sage robin
#

πŸ₯œ

winter compass
#

deeznuts smp

sage robin
#

fuck you

#

melonoof mor like melonbutt

winter compass
sage robin
#

bro 😭

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its just a number

winter compass
#

mine is better than urs

#

:3

sage robin
#

im better tho

sage robin
stiff python
#

yall aint seeing that money basically

sage robin
#

@zenith iris #showcase message I thought this shi said batman npc i got excited for a second πŸ˜”

sage robin
#

and also I tried DMing him, was a waste of time

stiff python
#
  • noone is gonna work for "after release" payments?
#

atleast I know I wouldn't develop plugins / cores without any payment before hand

rugged kestrel
#

He said he has 7.5k euros salary

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But with that salary he decided to invest in a minecraft server from all other investment ideasπŸ’€

blazing oar
rugged kestrel
#

1 in a million

blazing oar
#

Not rlly

rugged kestrel
#

Yes really

blazing oar
#

No. Really.

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Just because you can't do it does not make it a 1 in a million

rugged kestrel
#

Minecraft servers can earn you money but there are WAY better ways to invest your money

stiff python
#

people are kinda stupid and those who do it for the money usually just go bankrupt and shut everything off

blazing oar
rugged kestrel
#

Why do you wanna argue with me

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Why

#

Whats your point here

blazing oar
#

Anyone with an economic background will tell you that there is no right or better way to invest lol

#

There is only what fits to you

#

If he is having fun with the project, investing in something he likes, then it is a very good investment

stiff python
rugged kestrel
#

Okay mister minecraft investor go start a server and become rich

blazing oar
#

There is no "this or that is a better investment" there is only "investment that works for you"

solar sinew
#

also I'm confused are we acting like 7.5k monthly salary is rich 😭

stiff python
solar sinew
#

I'm California-rotted

rugged kestrel
#

7.5k euros for Europe is a sht ton of money for a salary

blazing oar
blazing oar
#

Very dependent on country

sage robin
#

most minecraft server owners fall off because of budget

#

i've seen it multiple times πŸ˜”

solar sinew
#

that's supremely broke in my area

sage robin
solar sinew
stiff python
solar sinew
#

how are you

stiff python
#

he is rich.

rugged kestrel
#

how do i tell them that i have a shit ton of money without telling them

blazing oar
#

If you are like me and live in luxembourg where the minimum salary is 2.6k euros and the average is like 5.5k, with housing costs exploding and if you are unmarried getting taxed 42%, 7.5k is not as much as you'd think here

solar sinew
stiff python
blazing oar
stiff python
#

im a jr dev 😭

blazing oar
#

If I even consider a house I am already at 1 million

solar sinew
#

how the fuck would you buy a 500k house in "a few years" on 90k/year

stiff python
#

bonuses? salary increase? savings?

blazing oar
#

πŸ’€

solar sinew
#

this guy pull money out of a hat

blazing oar
#

Doable

#

If you live with mommy and pay 0

stiff python
#

tbf, living expenses in my country are quite low.

blazing oar
#

Otherwise no

stiff python
#

my apartment is 500eur a month + living expenses around 300eur

rugged kestrel
stiff python
#

and its a big apartment 😭

rugged kestrel
#

We dont pay 5000 euros rent

#

Like americans do

solar sinew
#

don't call me out 😭

stiff python
#
  • christmas bonus is like 2x salaries LOL
#

thats why I said in "my country" its defo do-able

blazing oar
solar sinew
#

mf working for santa

blazing oar
#

And fy you are making assumptions about someone you know nothing about

rugged kestrel
#

2 room apartment with like 70 sqm is 400 euros in denmark

blazing oar
#

As said, not every part of Europe is cheap

stiff python
rugged kestrel
#

Where de you live?

blazing oar
rugged kestrel
#

If u say u need 1m for a house

#

He said Austria

blazing oar
#

Luxembourg

rugged kestrel
#

Thats where he said he lives

stiff python
blazing oar
#

Aka the european tax heaven for companies

rugged kestrel
#

So you are telling me that a house in Luxembourg is 1m

stiff python
blazing oar
# stiff python it's for the sake of the conversation lol

The conversation is useless, it's just a bunch of assumptions, I'd also invest a small amount on a mc server if I had the means, it's something I like and an investment, that does not mean I dont have a bunch more invested in stocks (which I do)

rugged kestrel
#

1m gets you a neighbor in romania

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Neighborhood

rugged kestrel
#

Or whatever u call it

blazing oar
#

Hell even an apartment can cost 1 million in luxembourg

#

The housing prices here are absurd lol

rugged kestrel
#

And what is the salary there?

stiff python
blazing oar
#

But tbf it's the richest country in the world in gdp per capita

stiff python
#

cause why not advertise something, get people to make it then simply ban them? 🀣

rugged kestrel
#

Minimum salary in luxembourg?

blazing oar
rugged kestrel
#

So people are homeless

blazing oar
#

Well almost xD

#

Like

rugged kestrel
#

How tf can you affoard a house there

#

Will take you 5 lives

blazing oar
#

If you live alone and have an apartment that's almost half your salary just for rent

stiff python
rugged kestrel
#

300 years

blazing oar
#

No lol

stiff python
#

i'd say people spend most of their life paying it off in most countries

#

EU is good in terms of that, can't imagine the US lol

rugged kestrel
#

Go in debt to buy a 1m house and pay back 2.5m

stiff python
#

either that or be homeless?

rugged kestrel
#

Go homeless at this point

#

😭

#

I would move out of that country if i would live there

blazing oar
#

Why would I

#

Luxembourg is at the top of the charts to live in

stiff python
blazing oar
#

While the minimum non qualified wage is 2.6k, the qualified one is 3.4k, and the amount of possibilities for salary growth here are insane

#

Specially if you work for the government

#

Teachers here are the highest paid in the world

#

End career of a teacher you can be earning like 12k a month easily

#

And whoever works for the government gets paid 14 months, not 12 too

#

Plus a lot of other benefits

#

Free public transports, it's decently safe, and a bunch more stuff

#

You can live a quite comfortable live here

stiff python
blazing oar
rugged kestrel
#

€1.4m house in luxembourg with only 2 bedrooms. 73 sqm. 20.000 euros per sqm. This is insane

stiff python
stiff python
#

we about to have a civil war in Slovenia due to immigration

blazing oar
#

That is why like 20-30% of the workforce in luxembourg doesn't actually live in luxembourg

#

They live in France, Belgium or germany

#

In the borders

blazing oar
#

But it is indeed getting out of hand

rugged kestrel
#

How much is a meal there? At a restaurant

#

500 euros?

stiff python
blazing oar
#

Just not as severely

blazing oar
#

If you go for desert, wine, etc then it gets expensive

#

Or if you go for expensive meat

winter compass
#

πŸ‘€

blazing oar
#

But on an usual night when I go out with family, it ends up at around 70-100 per head

#

Assuming everyone drinks

#

Here, one if my favorite steakhouse in luxembourg

#

You can go to menu and see the prices

vagrant pike
#

tldr what are yall yapping about

vagrant pike
#

depends on the place and food

blazing oar
#

Well those prices are on "fancy" nights out with everything and wine

vagrant pike
#

but thats nothing "fancy", just a dinner at a restaurant

blazing oar
#

I mean if I go to burger king I leave like 20 bucks there lol

#

Alone

sage robin
#

bro can anyone refer me to any goat of logo making

vagrant pike
long summit
# stiff python my apartment is 500eur a month + living expenses around 300eur

So 90k a year (assuming before taxes)
Assuming taxes rate of 40%, you'd have 54k a year
Minus your expenses that you mentioned of roughly 11k a year
You'd have 44k left assuming you don't buy anything ever and no other expenses which I find incredibly hard
For a property that expensive you'd need at least 100k deposit to even attempt to get a mortgage which would take you roughly 3 years to get to
Your mortgage would be something around 1.4k a month (depending on bank) if you can get something like 40years mortgage
Most places would only do 30 which would put mortgage at something like 1.7k
And all that assuming your rate of expenses and salary is correct
Normally with normal expenses you'd take quite a lot of years to afford something like a 500k house

blazing oar
rugged kestrel
#

Bro actually did the math

blazing oar
#

And for what I have experienced he likes fact checking xd

stark rapids
#

@sage robin Been sitting on your DM's for that request.

sage robin
#

I didn't fw the artstyle πŸ˜”

vagrant pike
sterile parrot
#

don’t need a massive deposit here

long summit
#

Over here the minimum deposit is 10% but for something as expensive sometimes they want more because the monthly pay would be pretty high
I struggled quite a bit getting a mortgage for my place and I had a 20% deposit
but then again, this country's housing is fucked haha
But yeah I did it based on my experience over here, it's definitely different in other places

blazing oar
#

Aka with fries etc

blazing oar
#

Not just housing xd

#

And yeah, it's about the same thing in luxembourg

#

(Regarding the you doing it based on your experience etc)

#

It's also difficult to get a mortgage here

stiff python
#

the math for my country would be, 90k (-24% taxes) you get a 68k out, we get a total of 3 bonuses a year (stipend for good work, christmas bonus + government bonus) which would get you to around 75k a year, roughly 10k expenses (current housing + living expenses) that leaves you with 65k a year...

#

My brother is looking for a house to buy right now and the housing market is shit right now so he is gonna wait a year or two, houses went up by like 10-15% in price. (but before it went up, he was looking at a 183sqm house, 2 floors, fully equipped, renovated in 2023 and on a beatiful location for 175k)

#

so yeah, we are quite lucky with this, but again the average salary is 28k a year, so not everyone is as fortunate...

#

if you take the cost of a house and the average salary a slovenian makes, no go. you will be paying off the house for the rest of your life

long summit
#

24% taxes wtf

stiff python
#

well yeah, but you pay another 22% on everything you buy

long summit
#

40% ish over income plus 23% on anything you buy over here :')

stiff python
#

ouch, economy is fucked everywhere ig

blazing oar
sterile parrot
#

35,70% up to 38k
37,56% up to 79k
49,5% onwards

then 21% vat

#

that is income tax

long summit
#

37 to 49 that is a hell of a jump damn

#

Over here it'd be from 12% to 48% with a bunch of thresholds, on my calculations i used 40% but for 90k it would be 48% :')

sterile parrot
#

as in 48% is the highest or is that total you’d pay over 90k?

long summit
#

Yeah, over 80k is 48%

sterile parrot
#

is that the highest tax bracket?

long summit
#

I think so

sterile parrot
#

ah that’s similar then

trim raft
#

guys what the hell are we doing be so fr

naive agate
#

Kinda wild

magic summit
boreal escarp
blazing oar
#

honestly

#

just read it

#

and it's amazing

#

I am really excited for it.

vagrant pike
#

well seems like they are doing something all minecraft developers (plugin devs, modders) would hope minecraft could have

#

really cool nevertheless

blazing oar
#

yeah

#

their philosophy is amazing

#

maybe minecraft learns from it

#

the fact it's all server side is also awesome, no more client vs server mods

#

just one single unified system

vagrant pike
#

well, deobfuscating the server code is step in the right direction, but yeah

blazing oar
#

yeah only time will tell

vagrant pike
#

since it's microsoft we can't expect much tbh

blazing oar
#

we will see if hytale will send some waves towards mojang or not

vagrant pike
#

I played so much modded minecraft that plain vanilla feels so empty lol

blazing oar
#

yeah

vagrant pike
#

and I'm not talking about all the techy stuff that maybe doesn't fit vanilla minecraft, but basic stuff like biomes, terrain, new animals, mobs

blazing oar
#

the real problem is that modded servers are way too heavy and well require client side mods

#

if plugins were able to do just half of what mods do, it would completly change everything

vagrant pike
#

I wonder what is the % of players that play pretty much only modded and % of vanilla

blazing oar
#

Like, I have been thinking on porting some mods like mekanism over to paper

trim raft
#

im laughing my ass off

naive agate
#

lol

blazing oar
#

it's doable, don't take me wrong, but you don't have enough tools to make it viable

vagrant pike
naive agate
#

whos inviting me

#

to the squad

blazing oar
#

there are projects like Pylon which are taking a big step in that direction but it's still not there yet imo

trim raft
trim raft
#

🧠

vagrant pike
vagrant pike
#

and the release of server source code? banger

#

well, just gotta hope it doesn't flop

blazing oar
#

but very questionable

#

that's just my copium

vagrant pike
#

or it's going to be No Mans Sky - Hytale Edition

blazing oar
#

No Mans Sky is sick

#

they never gave up

#

which is crazy

#

Also, as mentioned by simon, he will be in a loss for years.

vagrant pike
#

I got it for like 20€ on sale couple years ago and they just keep pushing crazy updates

blazing oar
#

but he doesn't care lol

#

what a chad

vagrant pike
#

I'm a bit behind all the Hytale stuff.. who is Simon?

#

founder of Hypixel ig

#

crazy bio

blazing oar
#

bro pulled a charlie

#

(like he did with analyse)

vagrant pike
#

10 mil views

#

crazy

#

the people are still hyped

sullen sorrel
#

since iirc Hytale isn't written in Java

vagrant pike
#

well the game maybe not, but maybe the actual server is in Java? I guess?

sullen sorrel
#

oh that's a good point

vagrant pike
#

so UE Client communicates with the authorative game server via http/ws/tcp/whatever

#

that's my guess at least, I know it should be possible

sturdy bobcat
#

it was originally written in java but a few years into development they were like oh

#

java actually sucks ass and we can't do what we want in this so they split the team in half, some still maintaining the game like normal and the rest porting it over to c++?

proper jungle
#

cannot wait to check their API

#

even tho its not gonna b 100%

blazing oar
sturdy bobcat
#

oh

blazing oar
#

at least under simon's leadership

#

during riot phase, lots of things happened and we dont know of much

#

since they were not transparent at all

vagrant pike
#

gotta apply for a dev position at Hytale

#

✌️😎

naive agate
sage robin
#

bro cant they eat a minecraft lawsuit?

naive agate
sage robin
#

wdym

vagrant pike
naive agate
#

naw dont think they will get sued

naive agate
sage robin
naive agate
#

they made billions

#

and still do

sage robin
#

but theres just far too many of these dupes

naive agate
#

tbh they really only need to target 1

sage robin
#

to care

naive agate
#

then they can include all

sage robin
#

prolly

sage robin
naive agate
sage robin
#

i bought the game last night, was playing it w my hb

#

and its not that bad

naive agate
#

nice

vagrant pike
#

@sage robin

#

can I have op on ur server

naive agate
#

kek

sage robin
vagrant pike
#

i want to be important

sage robin
#

i been locked in just improving everything

#

even small shit like messages

#

since ima drop lots on ads for december

#

gotta make sure everything perfect πŸ˜”