off-topic

[maiden grove]

Working on a single plugin survival core, cf, warps, homes, claims, scoreboard/tab, chat, etc. would anyone be interested in beta testing?

Going to open source it and put it on spigot bout time to have a full stack experience for all

[naive agate]

Got a list of stuff?

[maiden grove]

In terms of features? Or just what I need tested?

[naive agate]

features

[maiden grove]

Cf
homes
Claims
Warps
Personal shops
World permissions (disable pvp, block break, etc)
Chat formatting, control
Staff system
Ranks
Scoreboard - Tab
Auction house
Crates
Economy (multi)

Open to any suggestions too!

Land claim allows for trusts, permissions, etc.

The personal shops go off a market so more demand equals less that you can sell it for

It should really just be a one stop shop for a survival server

I’m implementing my website with it so that you can customize everything in a one-click fashion

Meaning it will generate your config files in the styling, formatting, etc - turn on and off certain features, etc

[naive agate]

Whats CF?
Is ranks for permissions within the "Claims"? or permissions itself(which is kinda useless imo luckyperms already is a thing
Look into Husktowns, Husthomes ect

[trail wave]

Cf means coin flip p sure

[maiden grove]

Coin flip, and the perms are for like if your trusted person can build, destroy, etc. the ranks are like VIP, etc.

[strange estuary]

This is SICK.

[maiden grove]

anyone got any suggestions for the plugin?

[signal badger]

Hi

[trail wave]

lol

[trail wave]

@austere kiln #1389912444754722891 message

Ion this that's suppose to be there

[austere kiln]

Then where should I post?

[trail wave]

#1389912446092709939 ig

[trail wave]

@wanton roost #1389912444754722891 message ion think it belongs there

helpchat chat dead these days 😔

[wanton roost]

Sorry, bro. I’m not sure if this form breaks the rules or not.

[trail wave]

am p sure

[rocky laurel]

Hello

[magic summit]

At least the budget isn't.

Percentages of profits to be allowed only if a range of expected profits is also included.

(Source: https://helpch.at/faq/request-paid

[glossy heart]

To any plugin developers on here. Have yall come across any websites that let you publish resources like plugins and such and have users subscribe to you to get access to your premium resources?

[alpine epoch]

patreon maybe? Idk what are you expecting.

[glossy heart]

Kinda want some feedback, as I'm making a web app that does this. Wanting to see if there's any interest from developers to use a platform like this

[blazing oar]

define "subscribe"

if it is an actual subscription, no one is gonna buy that lol

[glossy heart]

A monthly fee the user pays to support the creator and keep access to updates on premium resources

[blazing oar]

no one is gonna use that

lol

the mc plugin market is already undervalued, why would anyone in his right mind use subscriptions

[glossy heart]

That's why I'm asking developers if they would use it. Not users, cause devs are leaving cause its not financially viable to continue updating without generating new revenue

[blazing oar]

developers have had the chance to do this with websites like BuiltByBit (which allow that) but guess what

no one does it

people that tried doing that, all failed

lol

everyone hates subscriptions

[blazing oar]

you are asking the wrong person

lol

what does it change if developers use it but no one buys it

the mc market is not financially viable in terms of public paid plugins because it simply isn't valued enough.

the problem is not in the payment methods

you can be financially well in some cases. Perfect example is matt that codes plugins for a living lol

but he works for MCCI, which obviously has a big company behind that

tldr; No user will buy subscription based plugins, hence no developer will use it.

There is like 1 or 2 cases where subscriptions are MAYBE viable, which is for like anti cheats maybe

multiple people just sell the plugin and then have a patreon on the side that gives early access to updates or smt

but barely anyone uses those

I wouldn't take what I say for granted though, the best way to know if your idea has potential, is to do research on that area, make a survey, or something.

But I am willing to bet the results of that will be what I said

[glossy heart]

I know thats been the trend, I myself was a server owner and didn't feel like subbing would benefit, but I thinkbif the monthly sub is low enough it might be worth it if developers have good resources

The reason for subbing would mean you get access to updates, people could instead of sub is gain access for 30 days, no auto renewal

[blazing oar]

that doesn't remove the fact people get the same thing rn, with a one time payment.

why would you want to make it worse?

lol

people already get updates, and support for a one time payment

for subscriptions to be worth for mc plugins, that subscription would have to be like 2 bucks max

lol

(for a large plugin)

since large plugins usually sell around 20 bucks

[glossy heart]

But its not viable for the developers. That's the point I'm trying to drill in

[blazing oar]

doesn't matter that it isn't viable for developers

do you think the general consumer cares?

they care about the price they pay

[glossy heart]

I plan on providing plugin templates that have built in update checkers so users who want to update will need that pass to get the latest version

[blazing oar]

aka something that you already have, while paying a one time payment

[glossy heart]

Same thing that happened to video games. All bideo games now have micro transactions. Its accepted there

[blazing oar]

not comparable

in any way lol

there is no video game that is subscription based lol

[glossy heart]

In a way, I feel its similar.
I'm trying to be like the patron alternative

[blazing oar]

they may have extra features behind a paywall

but they either are a one time payment

or just free

[blazing oar]

I don't see any advantages in your platform, you are targeting the wrong audience lol

if your objective is to only focus on mc plugin developers

I wouldn't waste much time unless you wanna do it for fun/learning

cause chances it succeeds are slim, and it's not your fault

[blazing oar]

Also, fy, stop looking at it on "how you feel"

[glossy heart]

Plan is to take in everything community made, skins, texture packs, mod packs, resorce packs and so on

[blazing oar]

for starters, mods can't be sold. Illegal.

[glossy heart]

I will allow one time purchases, but I want to push subscriptions or 30 day passes

[blazing oar]

Plugins are in a gray area of that

[blazing oar]

subscriptions or 30 day passes will not be used.

You have battle tested platforms

that do that

and no one uses it

why would people suddenly use it on your platform?

BuiltByBit has time based licensing since idk when

no one uses it.

[glossy heart]

Then what about a platform that just has everything minecraft related, skins mods and so on, with the ability to support a creator like a patreon

[blazing oar]

so, copy of BuiltByBit and Polymart?

or Modrinth (creators are supported via Ads)

[glossy heart]

BBB and modrinth dont have a server list

[blazing oar]

yet

and why would that make it apart

fy modrinth has server list in their roadmap

idk about BBB

[glossy heart]

For servers I plan on allowing people to have first party donation shop. You can support a server right from the webapp

[blazing oar]

You need to understand that coming into that market is hard, and you gotta stand out. Until now, you have just repeated things that either were proven to not work or that already exist.

https://artifex.gg/ is a perfect example, they had essentially the same goals as you

had barely any success, and is essentially abandonned

[blazing oar]

so, what's different from just linking your store in your server list page?

legit the same thing

both require the same amount of clicks

actually, your idea limits people, while the alternative allows people to just use whatever they want for their store

[glossy heart]

A one stop shop for everything for your server, plugins, server list, server shop monetization

[blazing oar]

cool

still yet to hear what is unique about it

polymart has all that (minus server shop monetization)

[glossy heart]

Well, what kind of app would you do or think is missing?

[blazing oar]

I am not saying you shouldn't do it, if you want to, go ahead, have fun, learn, etc. But realistically, I wouldn't expect much

[blazing oar]

if I know or knew the answer to that, I would be doing that myself lol

why would I give away my ideas that could possibly give me a successful business?

your idea is not bad, but from what I have heard, there is nothing unique about it, nothing appealing... Why would I migrate from an already established platform to yours

why would I have that hassle

[glossy heart]

Damn, hard questions, I know you got your points, wish you could have helped

[blazing oar]

it's those hard questions that give you the answers you need.

It's not bad to have ideas, but if every idea people had succeeded, then everyone would have successful businesses

but guess what, that doesn't happen

Sometimes our ideas just suck, and sometimes, our ideas just need more outside the box thinking

nothing stops you from doing your platform, but if you are not doing it for fun, and want it to succeed, I'd ask yourself all those hard questions...

Coming up with an idea is always easy, implementing it on the other hand, that's where most people fail.

So, with that said, if you really want to do that platform, I'd work on the implementation part... cause that's what it's lacking rn

[strange estuary]

Final fantasy?

[long summit]

Runescape, WoW, pretty much all mmos have subscription

[glossy heart]

Ima rethink then, cause I really want to make something new. Always wanted to make a legit website

[blazing oar]

fair point

[strange estuary]

That’s what I was getting at yeah

[magic summit]

my plugin reached 50k downloads on modrinth. Wohoo!

[young mortar]

was gonna say lol, I’ve been paying for a WoW subscription just to play classic

[blazing oar]

still dont think it's comparable lol

besides, that is really just popular on mmos

[blazing oar]

Ayo, and I just realized I reached 1/100th of that!

well almost at 600 but just saw it now so ye

[magic summit]

Last 30 days

[blazing oar]

bro is humble

[magic summit]

Pretty sure a big part of my downloads is thanks to KasaiSora covering and mentioning it more than once

Like when he talked about Folia did he use my plugin as an example for a Folia-compatible plugin

[blazing oar]

I did talk with kasaisora about featuring my plugin in a video

but we both came to the conclusion that there wouldn't be much to show

since the plugin can't do much by itself

and is more of an utility to use for other places

[magic summit]

What is your plugin?

[blazing oar]

https://modrinth.com/plugin/runway

[magic summit]

Seems interesting

Does it work with DeluxeMenus?
Because right now do I encounter some smaller problems with it that could probably be solved with MiniMessage formatting being used.
(In my case does DM not properly handle Item Lore that contains translatables, where the fallback is always returned)

[blazing oar]

@strange estuary can probably answer this

his whole server essentially relies on Runway lol

He uses it almost everywhere

Including DM if I am not mistaken

it modifies packets, so it should work with any gui

Whenever I do get time, I will migrate the plugin to kotlin, and add some other features like nested custom placeholders, and support for some more places like nametags, scoreboard, etc.

[strange estuary]

Yes it does 🫡

I have an entire setup that uses runway and yeah every plugin has runway being used in one way or another

Besides scoreboard.. everything else works

[pseudo sigil]

I got 874

Im late to the party

[vagrant pike]

amateurs

https://tenor.com/view/get-real-gif-24964437

[twin dune]

[vagrant pike]

https://tenor.com/view/crying-emoji-dies-gif-21956120

[tall field]

Hello everyone, how's your day goin?

[magic summit]

(And that one is discontinued)

[proper jungle]

and now premium plugins?

😜 xD

[blazing oar]

Imagine flexing downloads on spigot 🤣🤣🤣

Amateur

Pfff

[vagrant pike]

not sure if I remember correctly, but modrinth wasn't around when I posted them

[vagrant pike]

https://tenor.com/view/angry-gif-6891886407904187638

[grand dirge]

950 euros

tt_clapCat_OwO

[vagrant pike]

not really

it still counts if a customer has purchased earlier version and downloads newer

also I changed the price at some point

[grand dirge]

so still about 800 euros

[grand dirge]

oh

[vagrant pike]

yeah, iirc it was 4€, then changed to 10€ cuz that shit is nightmare to maintain xD

[grand dirge]

ohhh

[vagrant pike]

still, pays for my gh copilot subscription

[humble wagon]

https://imgur.com/l5c0RPT.png

Genuinely hate clients

They use LuckPerms, but doesnt want to use luckperms for ranks/levels and wants to use rankup plugin when the only reason he will be using it is for hierarchy and setting players ranks.

THE RANKUP PLUGIN USES LUCKPERMS ANYWAY

[vagrant pike]

what

[humble wagon]

dw he got 64gb of ram!

[wary willow]

||I am flexing for the entire HelpChat team||

[kind sorrel]

hello HelpChat

[wary willow]

Hi. I am a Help Chat. One of the few remaining. We're an endangered species.

[twin dune]

Being the HelpChat himself, would you like to approve my Wiki PR? 😛
https://github.com/HelpChat/Wiki2/pull/25

[humble wagon]

Bro did it

[trail wave]

crazy

[wary willow]

done

[zenith mauve]

To split the earnings between you and someone else on bbb, you need to make a team to be displayed public?

[humble wagon]

It's the goat alonso

[zenith mauve]

[humble wagon]

I don't think so

It should be under the resource directly you can add where the money goes

@zenith mauve

At least it was like that back when I used the site

[zenith mauve]

Oh, thanks

Found it, yes, it was in Advanced tab of the resource, thanks ^^

[vagrant pike]

is anyone here using Stripe for payment collection?

[naive agate]

Yes

[vagrant pike]

we currently use Paysera but planning to branch out to accept more payment methods

I was wondering how's the policy for chargebacks/refunds when accepting payments via PayPal?

cuz on PayPal itself it sucked

[trail wave]

agreed

[naive agate]

If your in thee US paypal is not an option through stripe

just so you know

and fees are double

stripe is becoming an MOR and if you opt in to pay the extra fee they will take over chargebacks and respond to them but you can still respond if you want

They take a flat $15 fee if you lose or win a case no matter what even outside of opting into the merchant sadly this is a fee across all banks themselves

[trail wave]

[naive agate]

https://ss.adamhe.dev/2025/07/1SbkQtDZHX.png interesting

[blazing oar]

isn't this already a perk of level 3 boost

[naive agate]

yup lol

[blazing oar]

also, ultra random, but what are thoughts regarding the server boosting system? Was thinking (in the far future) adding something similar to my wiki platform. Unlocking subdomain, more storage capacity or stuff like that for your wiki from supporters

I don't really just want to paywall more storage for wikis for ex. but I do have to limit it

[naive agate]

have a base subscription + addons

thats what I do

[blazing oar]

can you elaborate?

[naive agate]

have a subscription modal and then have addons to unlock sub stuff

[blazing oar]

by elaborate I meant on how it specifically is on your platform

or just link me it

so that I can see it myself

[naive agate]

https://noti.bot/premium

I have a subscription aka premium

then addons at checkout

[vagrant pike]

is this for all disputes, not just for PayPal related ones?

they take 15 no matter what?

[naive agate]

I actually think $15 is only for disputes outside of paypal

lol

[strange estuary]

Knew this would happen

very happy

[naive agate]

facts

[strange estuary]

There's no reason it needs to require $70 worth of subs

I mean it's a cool exclusive feature for big servers but that's insane

Esepcially when I could just do discord.subdomain.com or subdomain.com/discord

It wouldn't have the invite banner but oh well, that's such a small nitpick for $70 worth of boosts

[vagrant pike]

that is very stupid then lol

[blazing oar]

interesting, I was looking into boosts because in that way you can have a single subscription

[strange estuary]

Afonso level up moment

[vagrant pike]

like why do I have to pay for false chargebacks

[naive agate]

its not stripe doesnt even touch it btw

[blazing oar]

Ayo

POG

[naive agate]

its the banks that take it

[blazing oar]

purple

[naive agate]

damn ranked up

[strange estuary]

I want purple so bad

It's not a pretty enough shade of purple tho

😔

[blazing oar]

true

[naive agate]

you are way off

[naive agate]

ye I have multiple + addons

I feel like boosts is excessive flow yk

[strange estuary]

wut

[naive agate]

frm purple rankup 🙂

[strange estuary]

oh yeah

thanks for reminding me

😔

[naive agate]

!rank

-rank

tf is the cmd

=rank

=prfile

=profile

[strange estuary]

anyone wanna donate some XP

[honest thistle]

Get more info about the badges with /badge

[naive agate]

damn I leave purple soon

[strange estuary]

What's after purple

[naive agate]

wait nvm

its another purple

[strange estuary]

Hopefully a prettier purple

[naive agate]

https://ss.adamhe.dev/2025/07/WtXzZumzs7.png

[strange estuary]

oh now that is a nice shade of purple

[naive agate]

yes

[strange estuary]

Would compliment my avatar perfectly

[naive agate]

but I still will have green

[strange estuary]

You get a fancy gradient tho

[naive agate]

trueee

[blazing oar]

wdym excessive "flow"

[naive agate]

Like you need to buy boosts then spend then instead of just checking out directly for the stuff you want yk

[blazing oar]

it would be more like discord, you subscribe to nitro (in my case, no ADs, and whatever) and you get 1-2 free boosts every month, then you can boost any wiki you want, those wikis then can choose the addons they wanna spend it on

it's a way of users showing appreciation to wikis

while adding more value to the subscription, since only removing ADs and some other small things is eh

but do let me know your thoughts

you have more experience than me in this case

[naive agate]

Oh I see can they buy additional boosts?

Is a subscription required or can they buy boosts directly

[blazing oar]

they can buy directly if need be

so that maintains both doors open

similar to how discord did it

the owner of the wiki can pay for the features

or the community pays for it

to support the wiki

And to be somewhat fair, I was thinking on boosts acting as a currency, which means, 1st month, 20 people boost, second month 10 people boost, you'd have a total of 30 boosts

so if you don't use any features, you could in theory just stack boosts

(features would still be "billed" boosts monthly)

but that way you could in theory "grind" for 3 months, and have the next 3 months "paid"

that way, no boost would go to waste

I always disliked that at a certain point, boosts are useless in discord, and you can "lose" boosts

Fy calling them boosts but I hope to find a better name whenever I come to the point of implementing it

[magic summit]

After testing it a bit I have to say the copper golem is one of the most useless additions

Like.... It's an allay, with only differences being it can't fly and can target chests directly...
But just like the allay does it completely ignore NBT data of items, making "sorting" systems limited yet again.

[blissful flower]

h

[magic summit]

https://bsky.app/profile/xkcd.com/post/3lv4ubsjgik22

Randall Munroe (@xkcd.com)

Kite Incident

xkcd.com/3121/

Reposts

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Bluesky · Jul 29, 2025, 7:39 PM

[trail wave]

Crazy

[naive agate]

https://x.com/Pricerrors/status/1951373289408110828

Price Errors (@Pricerrors)

$2 FANDANGO MOVIE TICKETS (ANY MOVIE)

Verizon customers check your app.

Get $15 OFF any movie.

Can apply discount to
- Fantastic 4
- Superman
- How to Train Your Dragon
- Lilo & Stitch
- Much more

X · Aug 1, 2025, 8:03 PM

[blazing oar]

15 bucks?

tf

how expensive are cinema tickets in the US?

lol

[strange estuary]

Just wait until you hear about the snack and drink prices

[blazing oar]

lol

[strange estuary]

No one goes to the movies in the US

[blazing oar]

Fy, KasaiSora ended up showing Runway in his livestream

[strange estuary]

I mean they get a lot of patronage still, but if you compare it to years before, it’s doing hard

[blazing oar]

which received a lot of good feedback which motivated me which means I will be updating it soon

[strange estuary]

Sweet

Idk who that is but awesome

[blazing oar]

HOW

dies

[strange estuary]

Never heard of them

XDDD

[magic summit]

iirc mine for the Super Mario Bros movie was.... 7 or so?
I don't have the receipt unfortunately. Only the ticket which I hold dearly.

Also, the cinema I watched it in is supported/sponsored by a company about building stuff with wood... Like a wood construction company.

I find it funny, but also nice that a local cinema is kept active.

[trail wave]

who is kasaisora

😔 even i dont know

[trail wave]

my nearby inox charges 2.5 bucks for the fantastic 4 movie ( in india )

7.3 for the recliner seats

[winter compass]

[grand dirge]

guys what is better
editing this same message or sending a new one with updated pos?

[naive agate]

updating

[strange estuary]

If anyone needs a fantastic game to play

Get Grounded 2, it’s in early access

The price is an absolute steal, and there’s more content in the early access than most finished games that come out now imo

[zenith mauve]

someone knows if builtbybit also adds their placeholders in addon jar files?

[blazing oar]

they should do yes

but that might be a pro feature

[zenith mauve]

pro?

You mean Ultimate?

[blazing oar]

yes that

they changed it xD

previously you had more tiers

[blazing oar]

https://builtbybit.com/wiki/anti-piracy-placeholders/ seems to be for everyone

[zenith mauve]

nice

[winter compass]

hmm

msgs got deleted

[spare rock]

🙁

[trim raft]

WHAT

[naive agate]

WHAT

[trim raft]

incredible username btw

[naive agate]

ill give you 1 message before I ban you

bye bye

[magic summit]

...wow

[naive agate]

yup

[winter compass]

fish

[trail wave]

what the hells that username lmao

[trim raft]

new Internet Historian is releasing very soon, i just got it on patreon

its about the Suez Canal

[magic summit]

Just saw ^= in some code and now wonder what this does... Cannot really find anything through search.

[light scaffold]

it's like += but for the ^ operator

[sullen sorrel]

https://stackoverflow.com/questions/20793452/what-is-the-operator

:)))

although it seems like google ignores ^= in its search for some reason

which is a bit annoying

[sullen sorrel]

also, rip -10 downvotes 🥲

[analog marlin]

i love ||=

[kind sorrel]

doesn't exist (in Java)

[analog marlin]

ruby moment

this is why i left java!!!

not enough cool operators

[light scaffold]

so true

we need <$> and >=> NOW

[magic summit]

Yeah. Tried it with quotes around the operator to no luck

But, so it's effectively "X power of Y and asign"

[sullen sorrel]

no it's a bitwise operator

java doesn't have an exponent operator

https://stackoverflow.com/a/20811220/14105665

[sullen sorrel]

duckduckgo seems to work tho

¯_(ツ)_/¯

[magic summit]

well.... that ain't helping me understand it more...
Like the only thing I get right now is "bitwise XOR"

[sullen sorrel]

view this link

there's probably more you can do with it

but that answer shows an easy to understand example

I personally haven't used ^ before tho

[magic summit]

It's always the "bitwise" that makes me a little confused

[magic summit]

I only learned of it through Essentials using it

[sullen sorrel]

oh? essentials uses bitwise?

[sullen sorrel]

bitwise just means that it does something with the bits of a number

in this case, ^ will "return" 0 if it's the same, and 1 if it's different

[wary willow]

bitwise operations are performed on numbers at the bit level

[sullen sorrel]

& and | can sometimes be useful for setting flags too (you might see this a lot in APIs since they can save a lot of space)
or at least, that's the only thing I've used bitwise operators for so far

https://eddmann.com/posts/using-bit-flags-and-enumsets-in-java/ if you want to look more into it

[light scaffold]

yeah that's a big use case

[wary willow]

I have never seend or used it for anything else other than basically compacting a bunch of boolean options into a single integer.

[light scaffold]

it doesn't have to be boolean options, but yeah

[wary willow]

Actually, there was that fast inverse square root algorithm in quake 3 that used it for something I think.

[wary willow]

true

[light scaffold]

i made a garbage collector for a uni project and we used bitwise stuff for tagged pointers

[wary willow]

speaking of gc, how is elara going?

[light scaffold]

last commit was in january :)

[magic summit]

Yeah. In their VersionUtil as a sort of basic "obfuscation" to avoid servers like Mohist from binary-patching their warnings out.

[sullen sorrel]

oh what

wait that's kinda funny

[magic summit]

I learned about it after someone talked about it on Spigot (Apparently requires to be logged in to see):
https://www.spigotmc.org/threads/essentialsxs-special-pull-reuqest.711782/

[wary willow]

The fact that they have to do this, is so funny

[magic summit]

Yeah. JDA uses I think &= or similar for stuff like User Flags or Batches resolving

[light scaffold]

oh it's just an xor cipher lmao

[kind sorrel]

heavily encrypted

[light scaffold]

military grade

[solar sinew]

I implemented a version of this a long time ago, it heavily utilizes bitwise operations https://youtu.be/qnGoGq7DWMc?si=qHItrLXygqWzIg1e

[kind sorrel]

I only use boolean[]

[solar sinew]

😭

[kind sorrel]

this also allows me to have 13 bit integers

[solar sinew]

w integer representation you can also take advantage of SIMD

[trail wave]

how much morphine do you need to try to comission someone to build a store website for 9$

[true stirrup]

I really do wonder if someone is taking them

[valid goblet]

[trim raft]

https://fxtwitter.com/gnukeith/status/1952410785411748016

Keith (@gnukeith)

Ok that was actually pretty funny, well done G**gle.

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FxTwitter · Aug 4, 2025, 4:46 PM

Idk what Charlie's tag is any more

[twin dune]

Pretty sure he left HC.

[wary willow]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FNkwxlLdkSo

[trim raft]

He'll be back in a bit

That's how the cycle goes

[zenith mauve]

guys any idea why https://api.spigotmc.org/simple/0.2/index.php?action=findAuthor&name=Danny54079 returns that nothing was found when the use clearly exists?

[strange estuary]

wait wuttttt

[trail wave]

#1400787208968994908 message @gusty gazelle you aren't supposed to put that there, unless you will actually be paying them

[naive agate]

@gusty gazelle please read our rules before using our service channels

[vagrant pike]

anyone has experience with vanilla scoreboards? I want the text to align properly with other lines after the unicode

is it even possible

[naive agate]

possible yes just very annoying

[naive agate]

you can add invisible unicodes

for the extra spaces

[trail wave]

💔

[solar sinew]

I lwk js stole Minecraft's client side text rendering code to fix this issue automatically 😭

[magic summit]

Maybe private user?
As in only visible for logged in users?

@zenith mauve

[magic summit]

Eh. It's easier than you think honestly...
At least to an extend.

The most difficult part is calculating the text with and icon with to provide the proper padding.

But with there being a space provider for fonts can you rather precisely make spaces.

[vagrant pike]

wdym?

[vagrant pike]

@wary willow whacha doing ova here

[wary willow]

that was 3 and a half years ago

so idk

[zenith mauve]

Ahhhhh so that was it! Thanks

[strange estuary]

Maybe I don’t know the extent, but why is everyone and their mom freaking out about the new ID laws on the internet

I can’t stop seeing videos and posts about it

[trail wave]

Wath

new ID laws?

[strange estuary]

The whole “you gotta prove your identity to get onto this site because adult content” laws

[trail wave]

ohhh

[trail wave]

where is it being enforced tho?

[strange estuary]

Globally I think

Idk tbh

[trail wave]

wait so basically, to access anything on the internet I gotta give them my ID?

[kind sorrel]

it's a thing in the UK now

[strange estuary]

Only adult content/ adult rated content

Including music

[kind sorrel]

other countries are considering similar stuff

[strange estuary]

From my understanding

[trail wave]

I see

[strange estuary]

I see absolutely 0 issue with it lol

I’m trying to figure out why everyone has issues with it

[kind sorrel]

how can you not see any issues with it?

[strange estuary]

Because it’s real life mirroring the internet, like it should’ve

Should be*

[true stirrup]

cause they are already overstepping and forcing u to show id for news outlets and what not

[kind sorrel]

no it's not

[true stirrup]

as long as the government deems u as adult only its gg

[strange estuary]

I can see how overstepping is gonna be a problem but if it requires ID irl shouldn’t it online? lol

[kind sorrel]

your name isn't put into a database together with what you bought at the store

(and if it is, there is an issue with that too)

[strange estuary]

It’s already in a million databases

That’s why I don’t see the issue

[kind sorrel]

💀

"I don't need privacy"

this take was never smart

[strange estuary]

Like, yeah it’s not cool for yet another thing to be a database

But I have more sensitive info stored online too

[kind sorrel]

okay but others probably don't

[strange estuary]

eg my SSN, it takes one breach somewhere to get my entire identity

..? Anyone with a bank does

[kind sorrel]

a bank has far greater security requirements than a porn website

[strange estuary]

That’s fair. But if I need an ID to get content like that IRL why should I just be able to access that without one

online*

[kind sorrel]

because it's far more intrusive online

[strange estuary]

But there’s no age requirement on buying computers or laptops

[true stirrup]

thats not really what people are upset abt

[kind sorrel]

generally showing your id offline is a problem too

[sullen sorrel]

is there no third party service that handles the ID stuff

[strange estuary]

There is

[kind sorrel]

oh so even more parties involved, great

[true stirrup]

ur looking at it with the expectation of 0 abuse of this, and a perfect implementation

[strange estuary]

I’m trying to figure out the bad parts of it cuz rn it just sounds silly

[mellow zinc]

apparently it doesnt go into a database

dunno how true that is

[kind sorrel]

it's not supposed to

[strange estuary]

well ofc it’s not gonna be a perfect implementation but everything on the internet is spying anyway, I don’t see how it’s any more insecure then sites having my SSN. I get different security expectation, but those are expectations, I’d expect NATO to have good security but all those employees got their stuff stolen rather easily

[true stirrup]

Right now id say main concern is them taking it too far, and in general i dont really see the point of it unless the entire world does it, as especially for porn and what not, u can always get a vpn and bypass it, so in my eyes its just an unnecessary step theyve added to censor, nsfw and non nsfw

[kind sorrel]

I mean privacy laws in the US are already shit, but other countries have better laws

[strange estuary]

I agree that overstepping is a big problem. I just think anything you need an ID for irl should need one online

And that’s not limited to YouTube, music, Netflix, etc

[strange estuary]

True dat I’m saying this all as a us citizen lol

[kind sorrel]

there just isn't a safe way for online identification

[strange estuary]

So I’m used to trash security and laws

[true stirrup]

i still dont see a point, as everyone knows what a vpn now is, especially kids, so what is the point

[kind sorrel]

and id info is already mis-used offline, online basically means exponentially increasing that

[strange estuary]

VPNs are beginning to get blocked

on those sites too

from what I saw

[trail wave]

what

[true stirrup]

fair

[strange estuary]

And yea that’s true. But younger kids might be introduced to it and not even know what they are getting into or what vpn is

[sullen sorrel]

oh also has anyone heard of korea's identity verification system
ids being required for like every online service
have fun with that 🙃

[strange estuary]

It’s pretty easy to get exposed to bad content online, and younger and younger kids are getting online now

So idk I get the bad parts but to me the good outweighs the bad right now from what I’ve seen

[sullen sorrel]

but yeah despite my message above
I agree

and I don't know enough about their system to determine if it's good or bad

[strange estuary]

I personally was exposed to bad stuff pretty young so

I’m bias

[strange estuary]

Yea same. Just some of the aspects people were complaining about didn’t make sense to me

[true stirrup]

one could also argue that thats the job of the parent, even tho its a bit impossible.

[strange estuary]

I get the privacy concerns and over stepping issues tho, that’s all valid. I don’t see the privacy issue as the biggest concern but yeah

[subtle oracle]

Apparently it's too hard to get parents to actually parent

[strange estuary]

The parental argument, yes yes I get that, I don’t disagree. My parents stepped in when I was exposed to bad people, but that didn’t stop me from being exposed to it period

We aren’t in an ideal world where every parent gives their kids technology and have time to helicopter it 24:7. They should always check in, but unfortunately the world ain’t like that at the moment

[subtle oracle]

So punish the parents

[strange estuary]

Tech and the internet is misused badly atm

Sure, this ID law isn’t a punishment tho

[subtle oracle]

Yes, so they should scrap it and punish parents that don't parent

[strange estuary]

no?

how are you supposed to punish mass groups of people without knowing who they are even

[subtle oracle]

???

[sullen sorrel]

I feel like punishing the parents would involve more privacy invasions

[strange estuary]

this^

[sullen sorrel]

and also I don't want to be helicopter monitored 24/7 🥲

[strange estuary]

That implies you’re going to somehow track down parents, know a kid is using the device at the time the site is accesse, etc

[strange estuary]

The parent argument states that parents are supposed to know every aspect of their child’s digital life

[subtle oracle]

They're certainly going to know better than some random website

[sullen sorrel]

know what better?

[subtle oracle]

Their children and what they get up to

[sullen sorrel]

verifying ID is a pretty solid way to know who's accessing what

[subtle oracle]

Have you seen how kids are bypassing the checks?

[strange estuary]

yeah I have but the systems are so new

They aren’t gonna let that slide long lol

[sullen sorrel]

also something would be better than nothing

[strange estuary]

And if they do it’s a failure

[sullen sorrel]

that's like getting rid of an anticheat because a hack client found a new bypass

🙃

[strange estuary]

But with the whole parent involvement thing, my parents might as well strap a GPS to my neck too to know what I getup to IRL

[sullen sorrel]

I mean that's already a thing for many

well not literally to the neck but

yk

[strange estuary]

Like if I go to a bar and I’m underage, they should know with my GPS collar, good thing I can’t get in because I don’t have an ID that says I can

Nah I get what you mean

[subtle oracle]

So now adults have to provide ID, mandated by government, which violates their privacy, all the while kids just bypass it with no effort

That's profoundly stupid

[strange estuary]

What I’m getting at is preventative measure exist IRL and I think they should online too

[sullen sorrel]

-# and for a lot of people it's a thing intentionally (idk why people share their location to everyone on snapchat)

[strange estuary]

screw Snapchat

Creepy app

[trail wave]

agreed

[strange estuary]

im going to college and ofc everyone’s gonna have it tho

[subtle oracle]

Of course "think about the kids" also gets used to justify all kinds of privacy rights

[strange estuary]

Movie theaters and bars violate my privacy then too I guess

[sullen sorrel]

yeah

[strange estuary]

I agree that’s just a cover for why it’s probably actually being implemented but it’s a good buffer at least

The government already knows everything about you tho, I don’t see how it’s a change from how the world works already

this ain’t any more monitoring then they already do

[subtle oracle]

That's weird defeatism

[trail wave]

wait so does this mean kids won't be able to play Roblox or no?

[strange estuary]

Nah they can, there’s no intended adult content

[trail wave]

damn it

[strange estuary]

sure it sneaks in but it’s not an adult orientated or expected site

(I think that’s how it works anyway…)

[subtle oracle]

But think about the kids!!!1!

They should shut down reblox and all user submitted content!!1!

[strange estuary]

I mean.. I wish harsher moderation existed for user submitted content but

One thing at a time

[sullen sorrel]

also, I mentioned it but I don't think you were here when I did
not saying if it's a good or bad system, but take a look at south korea's identity verification system
probably difficult, if not impossible to bypass

[strange estuary]

what do you mean by this btw

[subtle oracle]

"X is already bad so we shouldn't worry about it getting even more bad" is defeatism

[strange estuary]

But it’s not getting even more bad?

[subtle oracle]

It's not impossible to bypass, not even close

[strange estuary]

If the government can track my location, ISP, all that, they already got what my ID essentially is

[subtle oracle]

Government has your data, so businesses should be allowed to have it too?

Maybe you can give me your data too

Since it's already out there

[strange estuary]

Hmm good point on that

I guess I thought the 3rd parties were somehow “official” but they would just be businesses I guesss

I’d still think the data a business can get just from me opening their site or app is about the same as my ID gives them though..

[sullen sorrel]

or I guess I was looking at a different aspect of it that isn't really comparable to UK's aspect
ex services only available in korea - can't bypass with a vpn/etc

whoops

[sullen sorrel]

honestly I don't care about data collection and stuff (currently by google/microsoft/etc)
but I can kinda understand the point that having another place with this data being stored is another place that can get breached, although the chances of that would probably be quite low

[subtle oracle]

Having your whole personality profiled isn't a good thing

[strange estuary]

But they get that just through my site/app visit

Just not as directly

(I think, correct me if im wrong)

[subtle oracle]

You can work against that

[strange estuary]

True

What’s your counter for protecting children online tho from harmful content?

Cuz you can’t seriously expect all parents in the world to all the sudden helicopter their digital lives at the same time

[subtle oracle]

Stop giving kids smart phones would be a start

They don't need to be on the internet

[kind sorrel]

actually you could just make a law that websites have to transmit age requirements and the browser can check that. Then any parenting tool can prevent children from accessing such sites

[strange estuary]

That ain’t happening unfortunately

And you aren’t convincing the masses to stop giving kids tech lol

It’s being shoved in their faces 24/7

[subtle oracle]

Until we start punishing the parents, maybe

[strange estuary]

Like I totally agree with you that’s the absolute best solution but it’s not happening

[strange estuary]

In every country? Good luck

It took this long for age verifications to happen for adult sites

(In the US*)

[subtle oracle]

The US is funny

Violence is 10x more acceptable than nudity

[strange estuary]

You ain’t wrong about that

Lol

[subtle oracle]

I blame it on the religious puritans

[solar sinew]

parental controls exist that work effectively

most parents just don't use them

[solar sinew]

what do you consider a "kid" because if you're banning someone from having Internet past age of 13 you're putting them at a massive disadvantage in many ways, and they would have to be able to get information and be able to learn from places other than the internet, which might be unfeasible or straight up impossible depending on what they want to learn and their environment

[solar sinew]

promotion and recommendation of parental controls is way more realistic; many people will be against the government punishing parents for how they raise their kids when it's something more controversial like this

most parents aren't evil awful people who want their kids to be ruined by certain parts of the internet

or maybe you don't need to control it in the first place, since people will be exposed to it eventually and learning the consequences yourself is most effective before you're an adult with real worries. but that's a purely ideological statement

[magic summit]

Just saw the snapshot news and this seems interesting...

if it wasn't for the 8x8 pixels resizing, would this be an interesting aproach for custom GUIs.

[solar sinew]

seems useless

[vagrant pike]

someone will find a use

[solar sinew]

maybe it has some unique property that can't be easily replicated via normal method

[magic summit]

It would certainly be useful to display items in chat

[solar sinew]

oh yeah I wasn't thinking about non-rp servers

true

[magic summit]

Nova could probs use it in their WAILA system to display the tool used for a block.

Or other vanilla icons they display in chat.

[solar sinew]

if you have a server rp, which I think they do, then this doesn't offer any new possibilities

it also has a larger packet size

[magic summit]

Okay... Checked slicedlime's video

Object components support animated textures

So you can display animated textures in chat

If it also supports more unique things like the clock and compass behaviour, could one make some simple daytime and compass UI with those.

[winter compass]

Andre update ur IA guides frfr

[blazing oar]

damn that already exists?

was thinking on making it using display entities

sad

[solar sinew]

it wouldn't work well with display entities tbf

unless you WANT them to be in the world

[blazing oar]

why wouldn't it

[solar sinew]

waila is traditionally shown on the player's screen

[blazing oar]

ignoring the recent additions, it's the only way of doing it without rp

[solar sinew]

which is how nova has it

[blazing oar]

you can easily do that

or am I missing smt?

lol

[solar sinew]

how would you do that with display entities

in a way that works well when player turns

without shaders

[blazing oar]

yeah

you would simply move the entities around when they move their head

doesn't seem like an issue

lol

[solar sinew]

yeah that's not really a real solution

it's ugly and slow

[blazing oar]

how so

no rp though

and how would that be ugly

lol

[solar sinew]

not worth trying to have it be on-screen at that point

worldspace would make more sense

[solar sinew]

cause it would be delayed when player moves head? and likely go off screen

[blazing oar]

eh IG

[solar sinew]

server side screenspace rendering wo/ shaders has never been a real thing if you have > 5ms ping

[magic summit]

?

[winter compass]

didntnu make some ItemsAdder guides?

based off ur experience w em

[magic summit]

maybe one day

LoneDev currently works on a rework of how you define items.
To make it simpler to create them (i.e. no longer need to define a material, which would then default to paper) and a bit more clear

[true stirrup]

ai ass picture

[strange estuary]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_b8UVPtwJaA

[elfin cobalt]

hi obv how have u been?

[long summit]

Animated emojis have become a possiblity

[strange estuary]

Pretty good pretty good

[elfin cobalt]

im glad

[strange estuary]

Hbu bro??

[elfin cobalt]

ive been busy

[strange estuary]

Oo with what?

[elfin cobalt]

comms, coding, running a project

made a few open source stuff too

[strange estuary]

Dannng nice

[elfin cobalt]

gotten up to anything big lately?

[strange estuary]

Ehh not really, I'm away from home for a bit for my parents work

So I'm pretty bored and doing nothing lol

Been playing grounded 2, amazing game

[elfin cobalt]

oo

fun!

[daring sundial]

hello

[long jasper]

im trying to finish grounded 1 alone but i rage quit fast when the mosquito kills me 😭

[strange estuary]

Mosquitos are evil 😭

wait, normal mosquitos or...

if you mean normal mosquitos, I still agree for sure, but you are reaaaaaally going to hate further sections in the game xD

[long jasper]

i really want to play grounded 2 (snails look awesome) but i want to finish the first game, waiting on my friend to come back so we can continue (and so i dont die easily) 😭

[long jasper]

wait theres other mosquitos? 😭

[strange estuary]

one other type yes, they are worse 🤫

[strange estuary]

Definitely finish the first game first, the second one's story kinda requires you to know the ending of the first game

[magic summit]

Could be more difficult, because mc for whatever reason ignores custom atlas files.

And the object thing uses atlases

[analog marlin]

😔

[blazing oar]

@reef oar thought you were a dev... I'd assume you know how to price dev work fairly...

on a side note, what is it with people always adding "DM me for details" or similar

why can't people just say what they want straight away lol

[reef oar]

You don’t know the kind of work, how frequent it is

[reef oar]

Because there are certain details you don’t wanna say publicly and you wanna gather interested people first before decreasing your possibilities

[blazing oar]

Well, those are the things you should specify in a request

[reef oar]

I’m not looking for someone to do just a project, I’m looking for people overall, and as mentioned j want to provide those details on dm, directly with someone

[blazing oar]

I would 100% be more interested if I knew what I was getting into, both parties don't lose time. This way, both are losing time if it ends up not being something one is interested in or for some other reason

As I said previously, I will never understand the "DM for details" because it makes 0 sense to me

I could just contact you, get that information and then post it here for everyone to see

[reef oar]

Lol is already clear on the description what is this about, if you’re not interested on the details then I would say we saved time

[blazing oar]

what's the difference?

[reef oar]

Would you tho?

Just because I mentioned that and you created a scenary that you could do that doesn’t make it real

[blazing oar]

I 100% would as I hate requests like that and pretty sure others do too, would spare time from other people.

[reef oar]

On top of that not everyone is going on the off topic or other non related channels like us currently

[blazing oar]

it's not the first time this topic is being discussed here

nor will be the last probably

[reef oar]

I already got people interested, if you’re not interested than that’s totally fine

You are talking about this as spending 1 extra minute is too much, if you don’t wanna put any effort on a potential opportunity that’s on you

[blazing oar]

A potential opportunity for "10+" bucks?

I'd be willing to bet that the people who contacted you for that are the same that would do a skywars plugin for 15 bucks

(and proceed to ask chatgpt to write them the plugin)

[blazing oar]

true story btw

[reef oar]

I still don’t see how is this helping, if you’re time is that valuable you shouldn’t be spending time here trying to explain something that doesn’t make sense. You don’t know how much I’m willing to pay, and I’m not gonna provide you more details without knowing what you’re capable of

As mentioned is not just an opportunity, I’m looking for individuals

You don’t if that price is per project or per hour, you’re just assuming too much stuff and you don’t wanna waste your time with anything but still make money

[blazing oar]

You don’t know how much I’m willing to pay
Proceeds to say "10+" instead of giving an actual price

I’m not gonna provide you more details without knowing what you’re capable of
Why would I provide you with more details about me if I don't know what you want

[blazing oar]

not assumptions, it's what YOU state in your request

if it's per project or per hour, SAY IT

makes no sense to just say "10+" and leave it at that

[reef oar]

That’s exactly the point, I just placed a value, for no reason, if I remember correctly Im forced to give one

Is not per project is not per hour, is agreed with the person

[blazing oar]

you are forced to give one FOR A REASON

lol

[reef oar]

You might charge 1000, someone might charge 100, if what yoo prssent makes more sense I’m gonna go with you

[blazing oar]

then #1400787208968994908 shouldn't be used for you case

ah okay I see

[reef oar]

I don’t work based on charity

[blazing oar]

so you don't want to state how much you are willing to pay to maybe get an extremely cheap deal I see

I guess

[reef oar]

Of course, there is a lot of people there that are greedy, I wanna get the real deal, o want to pay more for someone that I see the value

You label the cheap ones as the ones that use chat gpt but you get the same thing with the rest

[winter compass]

can I have an 8 pieces @reef oar?

[reef oar]

And I can tell that cause I experienced that

[winter compass]

🍽️

[blazing oar]

facts (although I was referencing a true story as an example)

[reef oar]

I’ll think about it

[winter compass]

we can turn to cannibalism if u want, let's hunt Kristopher

[reef oar]

Yeah but you have both on both ends

You can’t give an example like that and still applies on both ends

You have everything here, good devs and bad devs, what you have there is a lot of devs with high ego that think they are very good and they are not that good, and they end up using chat gpt and making shitty code and I’m the one that gotta fix it

I’ve been getting people like this years ago

Is just what it is

[winter compass]

[blazing oar]

indeed you do, but since you are able to identify both, why would you make the price you are willing to pay so vague? I got told several times from professional developers that they would straight away not even look at your request. They want the basic information first, specially how much you are willing to pay, before they even contact. And this is coming from developers with years of experience in web dev or others

[reef oar]

Because you get to a point where you just work with connections, o don’t care if you charge more or less, are you good and effective and can achieve my result while still making what I do profitable?

I just sent here the request just cause yes, if people want basic information they can show some basic interest and contact me

[blazing oar]

Fy, doubt there are many good developers here

[reef oar]

If you don’t show any interest whatesoever in making any effort why would I

I would say that is totally valid

[blazing oar]

I guess

[reef oar]

Yeah I mean that’s why I just sent

But again for this specific project I don’t need a very high end skilled dev

That’s why I sent it here or else I would just look somewhere else

[blazing oar]

can't you do it yourself?

[winter compass]

share

[blazing oar]

or no web experience?

[reef oar]

i have experience on everything, is not about doing it, is having time to maintain it

[blazing oar]

Ah... the good old "time"

[reef oar]

I have more things to do on Phoenix, I need people that can maintain certain things so o can focus my energy on other things

[blazing oar]

always the biggest issue

I feel ya

[reef oar]

If I didn’t have any other responsibility o could do, on top of that this project is somewhat already done

Is has some bugs (ai prompt, request logic) and so I’m just looking for someone to do some light work

But that’s the tbing, is not just for this project, I’m looking for someone reliable

[blazing oar]

Yeah, well good luck with that, I am out either way, way too busy with uni and also working on hangar and another project so yeah

[unreal venture]

?

[winter compass]

you'll be a family meal

[reef oar]

sus

[winter compass]

we can make 2 family meals if we include you

[reef oar]

uh ahm, i'll think about it!

[winter compass]

no thinking, straight to the oven

[trail wave]

💔

[blazing oar]

what am I reading lol

[winter compass]

him becoming processed food

[blazing oar]

are you desert?

[winter compass]

no, I eat him

[trail wave]

🤮 sour melon

Wtf 😔 🔥 🥀

[winter compass]

ew, tier 2

[trail wave]

Am going to rage bait this guy so hard rn

[trail wave]

you're a OU mod 🤡

[winter compass]

n what

still tier 3

[trail wave]

a chicken wearin a gold necklace isnt a dragon

😔

[winter compass]

💀

but am a melon

wearing my underwear

[trail wave]

potato potahto

[trail wave]

btw what have you been upto lately?

[winter compass]

configurating servers

[trail wave]

Crazy

[winter compass]

ikr

[solar sinew]

LMFAO

[solar sinew]

you're ragebaiting 9yrs 😭

[trail wave]

btw he was on call with me and was listenin to corpses ear killer audio for 30 minutes while i was sharin my screen

[wooden magnet]

Hello there.

[solar sinew]

😭

[wooden magnet]

Need help with GUI for texture pack. What is the Height and Ascent for it?

[winter compass]

what do you think about Kim Jong Un

[trail wave]

Nobel peace prize winner

[winter compass]

what do you think about Kim Jong Un

what do you think about Kim Jong Un

NK spy ahh account

probably

[vagrant pike]

What's the "highest" amount you can sell a resource on Spigot?

I am planning to sell a "self-hosted" "store platform" that works with Paysera, Stripe and Paypal on it, not sure if that's even allowed though

lol

I guess a better place would be BBB

[blazing oar]

20

that's the actual highest you can go in spigot

idk why but yeah

[vagrant pike]

@naive agate huh

[vagrant pike]

alright, well

this took me, in total, good several months

[naive agate]

?

[naive agate]

was reacting to the plugin

being that price

[vagrant pike]

Needless to say, it is a fully functional store like, idk, Tebex, CraftingStore? Except you actually own it.

[naive agate]

seen both on bbb and spigot being sold

btw you shouldnt limit to "minecraft"

make one that allows other games even maybe

[vagrant pike]

yeah but I don't play other games haha

[vagrant pike]

oh you reacted on the "I guess a better place would be BBB", that's why I asked 😄

[naive agate]

but big market

FiveM for example

[vagrant pike]

I mean I could possibly make a decent amount of money of it, but currently it's greatly tied to minecraft, so that's an issue

[young mortar]

reminds me of Prometheus for Gmod stuff https://www.gmodstore.com/market/view/prometheus

[naive agate]

ye id rework that

[young mortar]

could take some inspiration from them, that's what we used when doing Gmod stuff, it's pretty nice to work with, just old cause PHP stuff

[vagrant pike]

yeah it sounds great but, sadly I don't have time to do so

maybe I could put it up for minecraft and then maybe branch out in the future

[young mortar]

yeah I mean I would start small, see if people actually use it

[vagrant pike]

cuz yeah, I have a fully working product rn, feedback would be nice if it even has a market

[young mortar]

I just made a shitty little Stripe integration for my server at the beginning, and it's suited us quite well since then, so I imagine something a little more well-rounded that's easy to host would be a great product

[blazing oar]

you also own craftingstore

[young mortar]

Docker support would be superb, even possibly a Pterodactyl Panel integration (egg iirc) would be super cool and easy to sell to server hosts as well

[blazing oar]

and yeah I agree, start small

start with minecraft

if that works, then expand into other games

better make it perfect for a single game rather than perfect for 20

[vagrant pike]

honestly this is a store I made for a minecraft server I am a dev on, and also am not really compensated enough for what it takes to make and maintain such things, so thought might aswell sell it lol

[blazing oar]

eh I guess

you could turn it into a business

like tebex

lol

but yeah I wouldn't bother much with that

do what you think it's best

[naive agate]

to much comp

[blazing oar]

there is no such thing as too much competition

[naive agate]

unless you do what they have + way more

[vagrant pike]

possibly, yeah, but I would need to apply for „individual activity“ (translated, not sure if it applies everyone) in my country, otherwise tax inspectorate will come for me lmao, have to make it legal

[blazing oar]

if you were to stop because of "too much competiton", noti wouldn't exist

there are soooo many alternatives to noti

yet noti still succeeds

[vagrant pike]

and also I do have a full-time job, "individual activity" also counts as a "job", so not sure how well that would work

[naive agate]

Noti got booming because I integrated many unique features

[blazing oar]

yeah same thing in luxembourg

[naive agate]

that werent executed before

thats why I said needs many unique stuff

like lower fees

[blazing oar]

you don't necessarly need to implement new things to be successful

[young mortar]

yeah there's probably not too much innovation left in minecraft server stores lol

[blazing oar]

you just have to implement them in a better way

[naive agate]

true

[young mortar]

the nicest thing would just be easy to use self hosted solution similar to what I linked above

[naive agate]

If you make it easy to setup

[young mortar]

cause i don't really think that exists much, or at least i'm not super aware of it

[naive agate]

people would enjoy that

[blazing oar]

there is a reason why I am working on a wiki platform... and that reason is not to provide more than alternatives do (Fandom, etc) but rather provide a better way of doing it overall.

[naive agate]

I remember I tried self hosted solutions and they were bad

[blazing oar]

that by itself makes it unique

[naive agate]

but imagine a one click solution

[young mortar]

off topic but why does everyone in this channel use the stupid betterdiscord thing that hides your typing message, it's so weird lol

[naive agate]

I use ven

[young mortar]

same diff

[naive agate]

I use it for other stuff

[blazing oar]

Vencord better, and overall privacy

[young mortar]

okay so that's not what i asked lol

[naive agate]

one of my fav https://ss.adamhe.dev/2025/08/HpSgR9R4JV.png

[blazing oar]

I dislike that people know I am in the chat if I accidentally start typing

[young mortar]

why do you hide your typing message, it's hard to know if we're still having a conversation

[naive agate]

I think its on by default

[young mortar]

oh how bizarre, when i tried it out it didn't seem to be

[blazing oar]

also yeah

I think its on by default

I dont recall turning it on

lol

[naive agate]

same

[young mortar]

hmm

[blazing oar]

but I like it

[naive agate]

I know a few plugins were on by default for me

when I first installed

[blazing oar]

I can understand that point yeah...

[naive agate]

https://ss.adamhe.dev/2025/08/UB4tBVZtaz.png

THIS

I LOVE THIS

[blazing oar]

YES

LOVE IT TOO

[naive agate]

and this https://ss.adamhe.dev/2025/08/hwwTAep80Z.png

[blazing oar]

AND dm/group categories

it's such a blessing

[naive agate]

haha

https://ss.adamhe.dev/2025/08/m2Eu4ZKIzU.png

this ones helpful

af

[blazing oar]

this is one of my fav too

[naive agate]

may need to install this

[blazing oar]

I fking hate custom profiles and nameplates

they disturb the UI sooo much sometimes

[naive agate]

lol

[humble pelican]

sooo "Introduce yourself", I was forced.

[magic summit]

https://fxtwitter.com/rasasarra/status/1952862025056698504

Rassa (@rasasarra)

Quoting PhoenixSC / Hamish (@phnixhamsta)
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Signs can now render Minecraft sprites!
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︀︀Here's a cherry biome on an oak sign.

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FxTwitter · Aug 5, 2025, 10:39 PM

The fact you can still recognize what it shows...

[naive agate]

WOW

thats dope

[trail wave]

[blazing oar]

Holonet?

[solar sinew]

nine inch nails

80s/90s industrial rock band

performed yesterday

[trim raft]

You excited for the new Tron movie?

[trail wave]

@fickle pasture #1400787208968994908 message this doens't belong in request paid am p sure

[fickle pasture]

why?

[trail wave]

You don't have a budget, you are giving a cut of what you earn, use #1400787213285064836 instead of #1400787208968994908

[fickle pasture]

i will change the budget then

[trail wave]

okay

[wooden magnet]

The discord has become a game look-a-like.

Where the p2w has more benefits than the f2p.

[trail wave]

#1400787208968994908

https://tenor.com/view/absolute-cinema-raccoon-absolute-cinema-gif-17862327649353748812

#1400787208968994908 message 20$ 💔 🥀

[stark rapids]

highest budget in helpchat history

https://tenor.com/view/member-new-the-sniff-gif-14247736747066824755

[stark rapids]

you talking about mine? thats +20, meaning looking for quotes

[trail wave]

crazy ok

[trail wave]

10k usd 💔 💔

for Texture PACK?!

[wooden magnet]

Well, it is not a normal png texturepack laying around. It's like a gif or somewhat called animations.

[wooden magnet]

I personally do not think that going for a services/team would be good. It is from my personal perspective.

[naive agate]

@wooden magnet imo no chance you are paying 10k

[fading plank]

he didn't mention "$", could be 20 rupees lol

[stark rapids]

Forgot the symbol, but the budget’s still more than your jokes are worth

[fading plank]

ok patel.

bad joke ⬇️

[stark rapids]

Let me know if you can do it in ₹20, would be glad to pay you up front aswell

Wouldn't pay others but just for you

[fading plank]

How about I give you ₹40 to delete that bad joke

[stark rapids]

Nope, it's okay for people to see how dumb you look for your words sometimes

Being hostile for no reason is really good when it comes to being a breed of dogs

[naive agate]

https://tenor.com/view/ban-button-keyboard-press-the-ban-button-gif-16387934

[fading plank]

bro literally started or he's just hungry for some attention..

You have my attention. Happy?

[stark rapids]

Grow up a bit in terms of maturity and that will help the world

[naive agate]

can yall chill

[fading plank]

I mean, you can literally see who started..

[naive agate]

I said both yall

[stark rapids]

Shows how intense your objectives are against Indians, I wouldn't slide if you want to trash talk on this one

[fading plank]

Indians? Bro? wtf?

How did that even come up lmaoo

[stark rapids]

Outsmarting out of your own starting conversation shows how dumb you are to not able to see what you did there

[naive agate]

https://tenor.com/view/no-yes-ok-yes-no-maybe-gif-14428545