off-topic

[blazing oar]

and PAPI api has no way to "not parse" certain expansions

on another note, gotta love this laptop case

no scratch while I am pealing this off with a piece of metal

lmao

W

welp now time to install a game and see how it performs

[raw scaffold]

Wsg pookies

[pulsar sun]

A reminder to update your nextjs projects

[analog marlin]

oh yeah? im gonna downgrade my nextjs project

now it's just extjs

[strange estuary]

I'm not gonna pretend to understand all of how that stuff works

but why did they take

SO

long

to fix it xD

@magic summit Very cool showcase, but if your on newer versions I think the eye of ender break sound could work better there?

minecraft:entity.ender_eye.death

actually doesn't sound as good as I remember huh

I might be thinking of another sound 💀

[pulsar sun]

I'd like to know the answer too

[strange estuary]

It was over 2 weeks, right?

[pulsar sun]

I don't use nextjs for any of my production apps, pure react myself :^)

[pulsar sun]

I believe more

[strange estuary]

even over a week is a big yikes

yeahh that's wild

[pulsar sun]

Reported Feb 28
Patched Mar 18

yeah more than 2weeks

[blazing oar]

jokes on you, I don't use nextjs

I am sane

[pulsar sun]

back to pure html we go

(ok maybe not, I don't want to deal with ajax ever again)

[blazing oar]

svelte on top

[pulsar sun]

Svelte does some stuff in a way that I don't like

[blazing oar]

like?

[magic summit]

Can't really find any other sound on the mc wiki that would sound like something fragile shattering

[strange estuary]

Fair

[astral aspen]

Hello

[grand dirge]

hlo

[winter compass]

did antonio cooka pizza? + antonio tier 2 now

[true stirrup]

what laptop is that

[wooden latch]

hey, does anybody have idea why just happening there? My pc just wanna die if i downloading something but i have good net im just confused.
https://imgur.com/a/YyGgQrK

[grand dirge]

its the speed of ur ssd/hdd that has died

[wooden latch]

always doing that but after that everything works good i guess i experience that like 2 month ago

[grand dirge]

yep u may have to buy a new one soon then

[wooden latch]

oh shit yea its planned so this is dying or already died?xd

[grand dirge]

on the verge of death

[wooden latch]

god damn

thanks boss

so every time i use (i guess download or read/write?!) its gonna be more worst?

[grand dirge]

yee

[wooden latch]

oh ye it make sense. Thanks all i guess i have time to save everything and buy another one. Anyways im planned to upgrade to bigger ssd

[grand dirge]

oh nice then

[true stirrup]

granted u cant really tell, but if its an older and/or cheaper sata ssd, then it is very likely that its just that slow, as you dont know what epic are doing, it could be just reading many small files and what not.
In general epic's launcher is just slow from my experience

[blazing oar]

Lenovo Yoga Slim 7i Aura Edition

[true stirrup]

thanks

[lone otter]

how can i make a terrain like this?

with worldedit

[vagrant pike]

brushes and //smooth, //blendball

[elfin minnow]

discords off to changing their UI again

[vagrant pike]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/emojis/1179946480342151318.webp?size=96&animated=true

[sturdy bobcat]

holy pings

[proper jungle]

there's a command to generate whole terrain

I dont remember the usage tho

the last time Ive been building is 4 years ago

[vagrant pike]

idk, maybe, iirc you just create a shit load of spheres with sand and just smooth it all out

[grand dirge]

happened to me like a month ago

[raw scaffold]

Anyone a minecraft server builder looking for work?

[strange estuary]

So jealous of you

I want that UI so bad

[strange estuary]

https://polymart.org/resource/coinflip.7413

huh, this plugin is literally just deluxe coinflip but free

can't tell if it's a remake or someone literally just ripped it off lol

Finding a DC alternative is so hard

[proper jungle]

coinflip is pretty easy to do tbh

and deluxecoinflip does not have any unique thingie

even the coinflips are not unique

like you can predict who's gonna win

[strange estuary]

Yee I know but it's a direct replica

oh nvm wrong reply

yeah I'm just looking for a setup replacement

[proper jungle]

Oh I see now

even the gifs are the same

I guess its just leaked

am pretty sure its leaked

xDDDD

[strange estuary]

oh.. XDD

[proper jungle]

strange that polymart didnt take it down

[strange estuary]

Yeah defo

[unreal venture]

[proper jungle]

its ur time to shine

[unreal venture]

yeap plugin leaking

idk why the resources are still available tho

[strange estuary]

No clue

[unreal venture]

well they aint now

[strange estuary]

oh you can actually edit that?

[unreal venture]

yuh i can manage resources

[proper jungle]

he hacked polymart

[blazing oar]

I actually like that

[pulsar sun]

@blazing oar you moving your stuff to appwrite? 🤔

[blazing oar]

not moving anything

just potentially using appwrite for one of my projects

[pulsar sun]

i c

appwrite is nice so it's nice to know you're looking into it

[blazing oar]

supabase and appwrite is virtually the only ones I have checked

supabase has somewhat more content around it than appwrite

but appwrite does look pog

and might fit the project more than supabase db wise

[frank pasture]

https://youtu.be/NmbM7LlBL40?si=CqrckMFWGf2hTnpz next years purchase sorted 👌

Practically creaseless too 😍

[upper glacier]

bro i just got banned from the hive discord server and the reason was "reta***d sh#ter" idk what i even did wrong

[proper jungle]

why fold 😢

Ive never understood the concept of folds

and never liked it much

[frank pasture]

I like the idea of having a bigger display on the go, e.g. on a long ride, or when you want more space. Then being able to close it up and go without it being huge.

I just hope they fix the issue of stuff getting into the hinge and breaking it

[strange estuary]

Same

[strange estuary]

Tbh it's a cool idea but it's not ready yet lol

seen way too many nightmare videos of people just having theirs ruined simply by using it

I'd just buy a tablet at that rrate

[proper jungle]

I'd buy a tablet, because its not 1:1 display ratio

which usually a foldable phone is

which means useless

bcs even while watching movies on foldable

[strange estuary]

Nah I recently met a friend IRL who had one

[proper jungle]

its not gonna get any bigger

[strange estuary]

It was actually pretty nice for work flow

But I just couldn't imagine doing that instead of getting a tablet

lol

[proper jungle]

well I mean for my use case it would be useless

[frank pasture]

I'd buy one if the crease wasn't ever visible, im already planning to sell my iPad so it would be a nice on the go version

[proper jungle]

was 1.21.5 just released?

Ive played 1.21.4 today as the latest

and while restarting my launcher the 1.21.5 just got selected

lol

[strange estuary]

Yeah probs

It's out

🙏

[vagrant pike]

poger

whats new

[strange estuary]

All the animal varients, all the new spawn egg textures

Firefly bush, dry brush, leaf litter, new tree generation

[long jasper]

Whats new? (Commands and data pack things)

[vagrant pike]

cool

[trim raft]

today i learned theres a walmart minecraft server with an official discord quest

[unreal venture]

😬

[unreal venture]

custom model data changes (again)

[strange estuary]

oh fr?

lame

[unreal venture]

no lol i m kidding 💀

[strange estuary]

I found that out the hard way

[strange estuary]

you got me good 😭

[trim raft]

how exactly does one find this out the hard way?

[strange estuary]

Seeing someone else doing it, watching it, realizing it’s literally a sponsored server Walmart, not claiming the reward

[magic summit]

https://www.minecraft.net/en-us/article/minecraft-java-edition-1-21-5

[strange estuary]

I GOT the new THEME

I'm so excited

New free themes, actually quite nice

[vagrant pike]

cool new pixels

[strange estuary]

This new theme makes server icons ugly tho

that's my only complaint xD

If your server doesn't have like, a totally square logo, it's ugly

or if it's a circle that's too big for the folder box

uhhhhhh this is also very new

[blazing oar]

yeah, I played it, honestly impressive stuff they did

wtf

[strange estuary]

when you get a sponsor like that I'd hope so

😭

But nah, it's good they did something different and didn't do like

walmart smp

💀

[frank pasture]

me too

I really like this new UI

[strange estuary]

finally someone agrees

I genuinely think this is one of the best app UI updates in a loooong time

At least one at this scale (changing everything pretty much)

[frank pasture]

same yeah, i really like this

so cool, great structure, great colours

a friend in DMs also doesnt like it, but i really like it

[strange estuary]

I'm not too sure what people don't like about it

It's pretty dang close to what it was before with just some slight changes

[frank pasture]

it gives me "stealth" vibes, with the cool dark palette

[strange estuary]

but yeah, any app UI has that issue xD

[frank pasture]

i hope these come to the phone now

[strange estuary]

Hope so too

[frank pasture]

I hope it comes to the phone

My phones just gone super dark what’s the irony, but not directly the same

[violet gyro]

Damn already back to iPhone lmao

[trim raft]

wtf

i dont like the new ui

[frank pasture]

I gave it a week haha

[trim raft]

wait the channel list is dynamic thats chill

[frank pasture]

love how this ui has mixed feelings 😂

some like, some dont

[trim raft]

ok wait tbh its not horrible, i just dont like the bar at the top. feels like wasted space

[blazing oar]

wdymmm

I agree

I just dont have it

[strange estuary]

That's fair

[strange estuary]

I can agree with that, I like the way it looks but it could easily be removed and not matter

and make the actual size of the channels bigger

[blazing oar]

agreed

[strange estuary]

Having 3 darkmode options is sick

[blazing oar]

it's just another ui revamp like the last one

everyone hated the last one

then suddenly loved it

[strange estuary]

Tbh, this one feels more natural than that one even

feels like a natural next step

[blazing oar]

I use OLED mode anyways

[strange estuary]

they've been designing new features like this so it feels like they just updated everything else, like the old stuff

[vagrant pike]

white theme masterrace

[strange estuary]

honestly I don't mind light mode with this new ui

nevermind I do

[tacit flicker]

o/

[strange estuary]

Heyo 👋

[full atlas]

Speaking of Snapchat they switched back to the old UI. Couldn't find shit in the new one.

[full atlas]

Holy shit discords UI Looks bad!
Why in the FUCK! is the game overlay enabling itself when I've had it disabled since it released!

And everything is a cube now???

[strange estuary]

It’s amazing

I love it

Overlay thing, yeah idk why it reset the preference

But the UI is gorgeous

best app redesign in recent years imo

[trim raft]

https://fxtwitter.com/FearedBuck/status/1904641072191439251

FearBuck (@FearedBuck)

working for Amazon with a 48’ vertical is crazy 😂

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[full atlas]

And why are the server icons so small?

[proper jungle]

bruh the new UI is so strange

I mean I guess its about getting used to it

but some parts about it that I like is that it is bit more compact

and that we can move w the channels area

[full atlas]

Nothing lines up either...
If you scroll to the bottom of the channel list the scroll bar will flash until you scroll down again.

[full atlas]

I just don't understand why they don't give the option for custom or old UI's... Its not hard to load html/css lol

[kind sorrel]

because it's a maintenance burden

[full atlas]

To store UI's ourselves and load them?

[kind sorrel]

UI's don't exist in a vacuum

buttons need to work

input fields need to work

[full atlas]

All of which can be stored locally.

[kind sorrel]

no?

[sullen sorrel]

As someone who's in 100 servers
I appreciate that change

[proper jungle]

yea that annoys me the most

[proper jungle]

yea hahah

[magic summit]

I just now noticed that Citizens seems to have dropped 1.8 support. Interesting...
(I don't mind it. Screw 1.8!)

[woven prairie]

Citizens in the big 25 D:

[winter compass]

Gianluca cooka pizza

:3

[strange estuary]

imagine using citizens

I tried making a citizens to mythic mobs converter, gave up on that quick lol

Waiting for fancynpcs to have a converter or something

[true stirrup]

is there a decent alternative to citizens yet? I feel like it is janky but it does let u baaaasically do anything with any mob

[blazing oar]

okay new ui will take some time to get used to

but overall its okay

[long summit]

I quite like it, specially being able to resize the channels list area

[blazing oar]

wasn't that already possible?

[long summit]

Nope

[blazing oar]

you sure?!

[long summit]

Yeah

[blazing oar]

oh wait... vencord

lmao

probs that

[long summit]

Most likely

[blazing oar]

still gotta check out vesktop

https://github.com/Vencord/Vesktop

claims to be faster

[grand dirge]

there's a few vids on yt

for now

but when they remove it as an experiment it'll become forced

[strange estuary]

FancyNPCs all day

It has every attribute for every mob like citizens iirc

[true stirrup]

will have to check it out

looks promising

[strange estuary]

I used it in my setup to make block display NPCs that actually glow

So glowing crate blocks

Very neat effect that I personally don’t see often

[true stirrup]

can you make the npcs walk around and what not too?

[strange estuary]

Pretty sure you can

[true stirrup]

always kinda wanted to make a couple of npcs with a schegule, but citizens is already heavy af with just some dudes standing around so never did

[strange estuary]

If not that’s a bummer

[long summit]

Everyone complains when discord changes the UI and then a month later they don't even remember how the old one used to look like anymore lol

[strange estuary]

Exactly lol. This is my favorite version of discord yet

I usually don’t like updates like this but it checks all the boxes for me

[true stirrup]

idk i dont like some of the sizing

[strange estuary]

Yeah that’s understandable

[true stirrup]

servers are hella small which is fine but then the channels are still same old height

[strange estuary]

Well I’m not a fan of how they changed the shape of servers in folders

[true stirrup]

also idk if i never noticed this or what but it feels wierd

[strange estuary]

Now mine looks kinda ugly lol, even with the new shape

[true stirrup]

having that much whitespace

[strange estuary]

I didn’t get a pic on my PC, but when I close this folder it still cuts off a chunk of the logo

Despite the logo already being sized down pretty heavily

So yeah not the biggest fan of that change

[true stirrup]

itll hopefully improve incrimentally

and not be redone in one go agian :)

[strange estuary]

Yeah, tbf they did have a lot of versions of this theme they tested

Like 6 experiments with diffferent things on or off

But yeah an all at once design change kinda quickly is weird lol

[fathom orbit]

hi

[strange estuary]

Heyo

[true stirrup]

idk theyve always done mega changes all at once idk why

[strange estuary]

I think they'll think it'll sting less if they just make everyone upset faster

then let them forget about it in like a month

[true stirrup]

fair

but it also guarantees they wont get it right first time

[tacit nova]

Yess!!!!

I mean it has to make space for the xxx is typing... indicator but you could've put that on top

[tacit flicker]

bro this new discord UI chopped

• @dreamy saddle

honestly nothing bad

its more clean tbf

[strange estuary]

The nitro themes actually look so solid on this new UI

I didn't really like them on old discord but I can get behind these

[fathom orbit]

@desert badge \

[desert badge]

hello

[fathom orbit]

you make offer in paid work

[desert badge]

yes i just turned on my dms

[fathom orbit]

ok

[leaden flare]

#showcase message
I'm sorry if my showcase wasn't aligned with showcase standards, could someone give me some feedback on why I'm getting down votes? Is it because I send a link?

[long summit]

Reason for your downvotes is probably pretty simple, AI

[true stirrup]

@magic summit couldnt u had made a script that generates all the configs with just different wood and wool textures?

[strange estuary]

That confuses me tho

It seems like a genuinely good use of AI

Organizing a list of unorganized skins seems like a win to me unless I misinterpreted what it does

[true stirrup]

exposed

[long summit]

AI fatigue, so fucking tired of seeing it everywhere

[true stirrup]

slight bias

[strange estuary]

Props where props are deserved tho

That’s a helpful tool to owners

I can’t just look at every ai project and say ew

NameMC tags skins but their tags are like user generated, so it’s pretty meh

Getting a bunch of medieval skins easily would be sweet

As long as all the skins were sourced legit ally though..

[long summit]

I mean that's the whole point of the downvote and upvote system it's people's opinions, and some people's including myself are just tired of seeing it everywhere

[strange estuary]

That’s fair I guess. Idk. I look more at upvote/downvote as “this is a good idea/this is a bad idea”

Not “my opinion of this is good/bad”

But there’s plenty of flaws in that way of viewing upvotes and downvotes lol

Especially when it comes to like, configs

[long summit]

Yeah each person will interpret it differently, you'll see some posts that are of good projects but have downvote because the way they were presented is very ad like

[strange estuary]

True dat

[long summit]

If the showcase was a video of a website where you could search in said dataset it would likely have way more upvotes

[strange estuary]

That’s fair yeah

[light scaffold]

stop playing overwatch

[leaden flare]

I know, the AI hype annoys me too, but I've been doing AI before ChatGPT, I'm not just sticking "AI" to my professions to gain attention.

I hopefully find some time to write about other stuff too, AI is the least of what I do,

[magic summit]

Because I don't know how to make such scripts.

[true stirrup]

if it isint a hassle could u send one of the configs for a chair

do u actually hand write the json and then use it in itemsadder?

[magic summit]

I have a parent model that I use for the individual chairs.

And I honestly don't care. I already did it, so now making such a thing is a waste of time

But if you're curious is here the full furniture.yml
https://gist.github.com/Andre601/bd5758d3d24c4cc2595255c493f559f6

[light scaffold]

good lord

[true stirrup]

can i see the model?

well for future reference even stuff like this just ask a LLM to write u a script that pastes it into a file, the only real changing parts in that config are like 3 strings, very easy to automate

i did this with fish items on my server, i had around 100 fish textures, i made the script to rename them to 1,2,3... and then make the itemsadder config to use these textures. A bit simpler for my usecase as i didint need names etc but still

[light scaffold]

u dont even need an llm you can do this in like 10 lines of code

[leaden flare]

maybe more...

[light scaffold]

nah

depends on language ofc but

[magic summit]

I hate AI and won't use it.
That stuff is overused and poisoned the well more than enough.

[true stirrup]

he said he doesnt know how to do it.

[light scaffold]

i suspect that's more a case of misunderstanding than an actual skill issue

[true stirrup]

this is legit what its ideal for, small little throwaway scripts

dont get the unneeded hate

i get hating on ppl who try to code whole systems with ai but a 20 line script? :D

[magic summit]

Every small company these days squeezes AI into the most stupid stuff.
It's oversaturated at this point and I prefer more manual work anyways

[light scaffold]

        for (var colour : List.of("black", "white", "red", "green", "blue")) { // etc
            for (var wood : List.of("acacia", "birch", "dark_oak", "jungle", "oak", "spruce")) {
                String yaml = """
                          {colour}_{wood}_chair:
                            variant_of: chair_template
                            name: "{name} Chair"
                            resource:
                              material: PAPER
                              generate: false
                              model_path: chairs/{wood}/{colour}_chair
                        """
                        .replace("{name}", colour)
                        .replace("{wood}", wood)
                        .replace("{name}", colour.substring(0, 1).toUpperCase() + colour.substring(1) + " " + wood.substring(0, 1).toUpperCase() + wood.substring(1));

                System.out.println(yaml);
            }
        }

ok 17 lines but half of it is the actual yaml so that doesn't count

[leaden flare]

I moved to linux the same week Microsoft announced their Recall spy-ware, there's bad use-cases of AI and theres good ones, but this, is literally what it's meant to be used for

[true stirrup]

sorry to pop ur bubble but ur legit in the mentality of new popular thing bad. Yes people over use it, dont get why u shouldnt use it to save u a 30 second task that is never gonna repeat

but u do u

[magic summit]

You have replacing name twice

[strange estuary]

I don't get this mindset I'm just gonna be real

[long summit]

Goes back to this, if they keep shoving it on people's faces it doesn't matter if it's good use or not people will create a resentment to it

[light scaffold]

oops that supposed to be {colour}

close enough

[strange estuary]

It might be baked into everything but that doesn't means there's 0 good stuff or good use out of it

lol

[light scaffold]

yeah i agree like u can just choose not to use it

being a hater is not worth the time or effort imo

[strange estuary]

fr

That's why I didn't get all the downvotes on that guys skin index

Like if they didn't say it was AI, you'd all be in to it I bet XD

well, not all but you get me

I wish companies weren't so.. annoying about their AI push, people wouldn't have such a bad outlook on the term "AI" even though AI is so many things

[magic summit]

I think if chatgpt didn't gain popularity, it would probs not have such a flood of AI today.

[strange estuary]

If tiktok never became popular we wouldn't have shorts slop

Everything is kinda like that

and yes, I blame musicly/tiktok for the rise of shortform

[magic summit]

If MC wasn't so popular, we wouldn't have 1.8 crybabies :^)

[strange estuary]

Trueeee

[magic summit]

and also not the movie

[magic summit]

I blame it for stupidity honestly.

[strange estuary]

YouTube was sucha better platform before shorts

Every since shorts became a thing it's a slop fest

[magic summit]

Ye

[strange estuary]

Even for long form creators

People got mad lazy

[magic summit]

The stuff they do.... one fail after the other

[strange estuary]

I just don't understanding how we don't have any competitors

that don't suck*

[leaden flare]

agreed
but it wasn't just ChatGPT existing, it was when big companies realized they have all this money, and have this huge scale compute capacity to do stuff like this, before ChatGPT we didn't know you could just scale an AI to terabytes, heck even petabytes of data

[magic summit]

Money, that's why

[long summit]

I didn't hate shorts on youtube until I opened it on my phone and the entirety of the home page was shorts (i don't normally use youtube on phone)

[strange estuary]

Like.. I get it, there's an INSANE amount of content uploaded to youtube, but there's no one out htere tring to make a rival?

[long summit]

On desktop it's not that invasive

[light scaffold]

rumble

[strange estuary]

A rival that doesn't try to mess with your attention span and push things etc

[magic summit]

YT has millions of hours uploaded each day. That costs a lot

[strange estuary]

Yeaaaa

[strange estuary]

I think shorts culture impacted long form creators tho too

[light scaffold]

good lord this site is terrible

[strange estuary]

Which is why I hate it so much

[long summit]

Most of the shorts I see the creators I follow post tend to be cut content from their videos, but I get what you mean yeah

[strange estuary]

That's fair

[magic summit]

The only "rivals" I know have their downsides:

• Vimeo: upload limit iirc.
• PeerTube: usual federation issues.
• That one adult videos site: .....very obvious (tho they apparently have a higher per-million view pay?)

[strange estuary]

I recently moved my old youtube account subscriptions to my other channel

Boy am I happy I did that, algorithm is sooo nice now

[light scaffold]

that last point is a crazy comparison

[long summit]

Omg Vimeo's player is so damn slow it's actually impossible to watch anything that is good quality

[strange estuary]

Actually getting videos recommended I want to see now

I gotta just remember to use the "not interested / don't recommend channel" feature more often..

[magic summit]

No joke, a science youtuber uploads there and noticed that while their views are less, the revenue is higher.

[light scaffold]

well yes but it's still not a serious competitor

[strange estuary]

Absolute genius

Anyone know if there's a way to removes IA's default assets?

I'm having so much trouble understanding how IA works lol

can't even get a font icon added :/

[leaden flare]

challenge accepted:

print("\n\n".join(map(lambda x: "\n".join(x), [[f"{id_color}_{id_type}_chair:", "variant_of: chair_template", f"name: '{id_color.replace("_", " ").title()} {id_type.replace("_", " ").title()} Chair'", "resource:", "  material: PAPER", "  generate: false", f"  model_path: chairs/{id_type}/{id_color}_chair"] for id_color, id_type in __import__("itertools").product(["black", "white", "red", "green", "blue"], ["acacia", "birch", "dark_oak", "jungle", "oak", "spruce"])])))

-# edit: invalid yaml indentation, :/

ONE LINE

[light scaffold]

bet

[magic summit]

There's a config option to disable it extracting the default assests

Tho, given it relies on quite a few for its core functionalities (the /ia ui) you should at the very least replace it.

[strange estuary]

Yeah I plan on just using what I need

Also me not being able to add my image in was me just purely being an idiot, what else is new

[magic summit]

I personally am mixed feelings on the UI to be honest

Even made an addon that replaces it with a more vanilla-like design

[strange estuary]

Yeah I'm not the biggest fan ngl

Kinda tacky imo?

But I'm not even trying to get rid of that, I'm more trying to get rid of the cooldown bar and stuff XD

[magic summit]

cooldown bar?

[strange estuary]

This thing, not sure what it does but I don't need it :P

[magic summit]

Uh..... I don't have it

That's usually not part of default IA

Like a fresh install is the bare minimum

[strange estuary]

Oh fr? Huh

I'm not sure where that came from then

[magic summit]

Maybe from a default pack or another plugin perhaps

[strange estuary]

Yee defo possible, I'm now getting into merging IA with other packs automatically

really nice feature from IA imo

(I'm guessing all the other pack management plugins do it too it's just something I didn't realize until I used one)

[magic summit]

Yeah. It's sad you have to merge tho

But sadly did Mojang not add a way to merge custom model data when loading multiple server resource packs

[violet gyro]

I guess they half did by adding the item model component which only takes a model path

[magic summit]

Yeah

LoneDev considers implementing that for custom items instead of custom model data as it seems a lot easier to use. Especially for updating items

[tacit nova]

Still isn't implemented in IA? Do they even have equippable components yet?

[magic summit]

yes

I made my copper armor through that
#showcase message

[magic summit]

I btw want to quickly mention another small funfact: I have a separate, dedicated YAML file for recipes in ItemsAdder and it's currently sitting at around 4.8k lines... Mainly because of individual chairs and their crafting patterns...

[rich hornet]

I wonder what this word is 🤔

[trim raft]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QWYpWwTu6PY

[cosmic carbon]

Wait what if doctor pepper is a women (this is changing my whole life perspective)

[magic summit]

Maybe not advertise?

[naive agate]

@slim sphinx this is a warning please don’t promote in public chats.

[vagrant pike]

this shit is completely buggin me bro

lemme go back to old UI

[full atlas]

Missing a period.

Also "You are" vs "You're" why not use the same lol

[sullen sorrel]

Just found this
https://imgs.xkcd.com/comics/ui_change.png

🙃

[magic summit]

Xkcd ahead of his time

[magic summit]

Not even the worst: https://fxtwitter.com/codeHusky/status/1904760438241325428

Loki (@codeHusky)

six misalignments in one part of the new Discord update, not even to mention the inconsistent spacing

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[kind sorrel]

only one of these lines make sense

[sullen sorrel]

Why are you guys trying to find problems with it

[full atlas]

Not trying. Its easy to notice.

[magic summit]

Because we shouldn't ask for some basic consistentcy here

[full atlas]

Play death match in CS for the first time since release. Instantly 3 spinbotting cheaters 🤦

No one got banned during the game. What a fucking joke.

[true stirrup]

let them warmup jeez

[grand dirge]

is it me or the images in embed in this new ui are compressed as heck

coz they appear blurry comparitive to when I saw them in the old ui

[full atlas]

^^^ That too

[polar citrus]

Hello!

[radiant tulip]

a

[vagrant pike]

not trying, its literally poking my eyes

[strange estuary]

really isn't imo xD

But yeah that's a weird move from them

Nitro themes actually look solid in this new UI

too bad I only had one day of nitro

[strange estuary]

@lone otter Hey, those messages look great, however having the team prefix on ALL of them looks kinda goofy imo

also more of a personal nitpick, but &7 is the primary color and &b is the accent color on the last lines, but in the first lines &6 is primary and &7 is accent

Possibly switch &6Kill players to get &71 score to &7Kill players to get &61 score for consistency sake, but that's just my opinion

[vagrant pike]

you cant make this shit up bro

https://tenor.com/view/sadge-guitar-mills-song-pepe-gif-18595045

[sullen sorrel]

that better be more than 1 commit

or unless that's a refactoring of some sort

[vagrant pike]

single commit masterrace

that's mostly rewriting listeners and commands, repositories/services with guice

[vagrant pike]

gotta say, guice kinda goated

[light scaffold]

Real!

[magic summit]

@faint ridge is craftbench actually your project? Because why else would you post this in #showcase then?

(It honestly feels more like a sneaky ad, but that's probably just me)

[naive agate]

its his

[magic summit]

interesting

[naive agate]

its a dope project I remember when it was barebones

[magic summit]

I guess it's something

[naive agate]

yee

I do agree its a sneaky ad

[magic summit]

I prefer doing my textures and stuff manually like an old man 👴

[naive agate]

o

[magic summit]

Also: Using fixupx/fxtwitter is 👍

[naive agate]

facts

[magic summit]

Only better thing is to not use twitter at all

[naive agate]

haha

[magic summit]

No really

It is the better option

That platform is going crazy. Especially regarding ads

It legit shows me ads about some comic thing or game or whatever that promotes... Well... Let's say "sweet home alabama".

I think you get what I mean... They allow this kind of stuff as actual ads

[blazing oar]

FR

feels like yesterday

[naive agate]

💀 💀 💀

[blazing oar]

I still remember we all going on about how unethical it was

whatever else

xD

but to my understanding it's all inhouse designs

(I hope/think)

[tacit flicker]

yo

[spring heath]

Hello

[lone otter]

how can I generate a terrain like this?

[kind sorrel]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Noise_(spectral_phenomenon)#Noise_in_computer_graphics

[unreal venture]

damn have yall seen how many item flags now exist in 1.21.5? https://hub.spigotmc.org/javadocs/bukkit/org/bukkit/inventory/ItemFlag.html

[sturdy bobcat]

thats just because of components having a tooltip option

[zenith mauve]

[blazing oar]

god anyone has any idea if there is a figma project with shadcn components in dark mode?

can only find a light mode

[magic summit]

I just noticed something odd...
In the creative inventory can you find the Vault block under "Functional Blocks".... But you can't get the spawner via the inventory. Not even with operator items tab enabled...

Not sure what the reasoning behind this is

[strange estuary]

Fortnite font in MC is no where near as cursed as I expected

I kinda like it 💀

[winter compass]

💀

[pulsar sun]

isn't it 1 offer service/mo? doesn't barry handle this

[trim raft]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ikT631vQd8A

New Hypixel 1.20 gamemode teased at the end

[strange estuary]

Dang it

They are compromising my plans

lol

Looks sick tho

[magic summit]

https://fxtwitter.com/AlexandreSar99/status/1905368836708139116

Alex🐟 (@AlexandreSar99)

Wandering Trader

Quoting Alex🐟 (@AlexandreSar99)
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FxTwitter · Mar 27, 2025, 9:18 PM

Looks cool ngl

[strange estuary]

What world manager do you all use?

I used multiverse for a while but considering going with AdvancedSlimeWorldManager, I'm just not sure if I should or not. It's kinda weird to me that I gotta use their server jar to make it work but I might just be misinterpreting the point of that

[wary willow]

Isn't ASWM recommended for plugins and such? Rather than manual creation of worlds. Iirc it was made for plugins such as Sky Wars where quick world resets are needed

[strange estuary]

Yeah this is for a BW environment so that’s why I was thinking to use it

Just wasn’t sure if there was other recommended options

[wary willow]

In my little multiworld work experience, ASWM was the standard

Also, I'm not sure why you would need their server jar?

I don't remember there being a requirement for this, and I couldn't find one just now either. Also, I don't think spigot would allow plugins on their store if they only worked on other servers and not spigot.

[strange estuary]

Dunno. Plugin doesn't work without it

this is without their server.jar, but using their server.jar it works

It's some sort of patch of paper

[wary willow]

Yeah that adds their own API

Seems that you do need it

[strange estuary]

Yeah, not sure how I feel about that part of it but it might not mean anything lol

Surprised Spigot is fine with that

[wary willow]

Seems they don't work with spigot anymore

The plugin is just for managing worlds or something

[strange estuary]

Yeaaa

[sullen sorrel]

renamed to Advanced Slime Paper now it seems

I assume regular ASWM still works tho

[strange estuary]

Can you even get ASWM tho?

cuz uhh, there's like no link to it that I see, it's all ASP now

[sullen sorrel]

ohh

🥲

https://github.com/Paul19988/Advanced-Slime-World-Manager/releases/tag/2.8.0 ?

although that was in 2022

so probably doesn't work in newer versions

[strange estuary]

oh shoot

yeah seems like they dumped that for ASP

[sullen sorrel]

rip

[strange estuary]

mehhh

I'm not opposed to using ASP I just don't know if using their server software is a good move?

[blazing oar]

not focusing on ADs atm, but was just a random thought I had, "Once the time comes, how do I make it sustainable?", any opinions on AD placement?

rather is it too intrusive or...

(A bit hard to judge without the rest of the page being done but yeah)

[strange estuary]

Tbh, I think the only intrusive thing about it is the color difference

If the ad could match the site a bit more I think it'd be less intrusive

[blazing oar]

oh well, that AD is just a random pic I got from google

xD

but tbf, most AD providers are not as customizable as you say

[strange estuary]

yeahh I know

that's the unfortunate bit lol

[young mortar]

Bro for a wiki? Can’t you host that shit for free?

[blazing oar]

working on a wiki platform, not a single wiki xD

[young mortar]

im ngl i would never willingly use a wiki that has ads

that's why everyone ditched fandom

[blazing oar]

correction

people ditched fandom because they are hella intrustive with their ADs

[young mortar]

bro any ads is unacceptable on a wiki

[blazing oar]

problem is: How do you sustain that

[young mortar]

a wiki should be a source of free information, not a way for someone to earn a few pennies

you have other businesses or you host for free, this is why every big wiki is independently hosted nowadays

and why a model like Fandom should never be emulated

[blazing oar]

TBF, Ads are the most common way of making something free while maintaing it sustainable or profitable

[young mortar]

i mean yeah sure, but i refuse to use a wiki that has fucking ads lmao

either go the dev route and just SaaS that bitch or use a git-based static wiki format

or people are likely just going to host their own when they need it

[blazing oar]

wait wut (first part)

[young mortar]

are you making this wiki software?

[blazing oar]

problem is, you are looking at it from a developer perspective that can easily host their own wiki lol, Fandom for ex. shitty platform but is made for those who don't know how to code, etc.

[blazing oar]

yea

[strange estuary]

Kinda agree here. So tired of ads being plastered on everything

[blazing oar]

built from the ground up

[young mortar]

and you're trying to monetize this?

[blazing oar]

I agree with that

[strange estuary]

HeadDatabase should be ashamed of how many ads they have

Shouldn't even be allowed

[young mortar]

just do a SaaS plan

[blazing oar]

so put it behind a paywall?

[young mortar]

scraping the end users for pennies is never going to do anything, if people want to host a wiki it's their problem to figure out how to pay for it

put you hosting it behind a paywall

[strange estuary]

$0.99 per month

100 users

$100 a month

😎

[young mortar]

make it FOSS, free to self host and deal with, but if they don't want to/want more support, they can pay you like $2 a month or whatever for hosting

like any good open source app should be

[blazing oar]

also yesno, my main goal is to make a better fandom honestly

[young mortar]

yeah but that already exists, it's called self hosting MediaWiki if you care

[blazing oar]

well, comes again to the main point, not everyone knows how to self host

[young mortar]

the problems of fandom are mainly that you don't own your own data and that they extort you and force you to keep it up always

[blazing oar]

besides, self hosting can also cost money

[young mortar]

yeah and that's why they buy your SaaS plan

[blazing oar]

wdym with the second part

[young mortar]

and that's how you make money

[blazing oar]

but my main intentions are not making big bucks

[young mortar]

you ever seen how all these wikis migrated away from Fandom, but the shitty outdated Fandom wiki is still the #1 result even though it's older and incorrect?

[blazing oar]

my main intention is providing a reliable, better and more modern Fandom.

[young mortar]

that's because the Fandom contract stipulates that if you leave, you're not allowed to remove any of the shit you added to it, so they still get money from the ads and from people mistakenly clicking on the link

[blazing oar]

I have

and those are the points I want to address

[young mortar]

then the only way you're going to make money is by enshittifying your product exactly like Fandom did

turns out that free hosting is not a good business model lmao

[blazing oar]

for instance, any outdated content on the platform, after some time gets taken out/put in private mode (at least that's my plans)

[young mortar]

there is no good way to do that

[blazing oar]

there is, and there isn't

[young mortar]

there is no good way to detect if something is outdated, and then even if you do, it should not be put in private mode lmao

[blazing oar]

the idea is to "gatekeep" people a bit

[young mortar]

that defeats the purpose of wikis

[blazing oar]

aka you can't simply enter and create a wiki and voila

[strange estuary]

wait why

[young mortar]

yeah dude what

this is such a weird scheme

[strange estuary]

communist fandom?

[blazing oar]

haven't given much thought to it tbh, was just an option on the table

[young mortar]

"i'm gonna make a better mediawiki, offer free hosting like fandom, then forcefully put ads on peoples sites to pay for it, while gatekeeping them (???)"

[strange estuary]

Tbh if you want it to work it's gotta be as LEAST gatekeepy as possible

and have as little.. not rules but what's the word

caveats I guess

as possible

[trail wave]

[strange estuary]

That's another thing I'm tired of on the internet, stuff I make gets bossed around by the site, like why can't it just be simple

[young mortar]

yeah i mean, what i've learned over these past few years of doing this shit, is that there's no better platform than MediaWiki for like an actual wiki experience

[blazing oar]

let me clarify what I meant by gatekeeping, the idea was that any wiki created is put into private mode by default, after they "publish" it, it gets put into some sort of "Trial phase" where the wiki is closely watched and monitored, if deemed that the wiki contributes nothing to the world, or is troll or anything similar, it would be taken into private and the owner would be notified

[young mortar]

if you want docs, there are a million tools for that that are nice and cheap/free to host

[blazing oar]

that WAS the intial idea

[strange estuary]

ppl are gonna get tired of that real quick imo

[young mortar]

why the fuck would anyone ever want to put their faith in you to not delete their wiki on a whim

[blazing oar]

it's not deleted

[young mortar]

regardless

[trail wave]

wait, what are tiers here? how do you level it up?

[young mortar]

"taken into private" is essentially deleting

[strange estuary]

Level up by chatting

[young mortar]

the point of a wiki is to be available and open

[trail wave]

i see.

[blazing oar]

yes, but how else would you moderate wikis, make sure they are not trolls and are providing reliable information?

and not outdated*

[young mortar]

they self moderate

that's the entire point of wikis

[blazing oar]

at that point, Fandom 2.0 becomes a thing

full of outdated wikis

[young mortar]

i don't think you understand why Fandom is like that

[blazing oar]

they dont allow wikis to be deleted when someone leaves

yeah I understood that point

[young mortar]

it's not because of a lack of central "moderation" or whatever, it's because they force you to keep your old shit on their to leverage their SEO to get free ad money

[blazing oar]

but a lot of wikis are also simply abandoned

[young mortar]

if you make a good wiki platform that people trust and don't want to leave, you won't have that problem

[young mortar]

the vast, vast majority of wikis are about SOMETHING, so they have someone in charge of that who maintains the official wiki, and if they move or whatever, would handle cleaning up the old outdated wiki

for instance, every video game wiki on Fandom

[blazing oar]

okay, let me ask something else, from a normal consumer's perspective (non dev), how would you model this platform?

[young mortar]

as a normal consumer I expect a wiki to be quick, free, easy to use, and not have any fucking ads

[strange estuary]

I thought you said charge a fee tho

but yeah no ads like

[young mortar]

the "cost" should not be on the end user, it should be on the person in charge of the wiki

[strange estuary]

ads need to be obliterated

[wary willow]

That doesn't mean the information in there isn't good to anyone

[strange estuary]

ahhhh you mean a browser of the wiki

not the wiki owner

[blazing oar]

fair

[strange estuary]

I mean even if a wiki goes dormant and private it still takes up space on the server or whatever right?

so whats the point of privating it

[wary willow]

Free information doesn't mean free until someone higher up doesn't agree with it

[blazing oar]

I did think about having both options, free to use, but have some "premium" plan

[young mortar]

yeah the only way this is ever going to do anything good is just by having a self-host for free/SaaS if you can't be bothered for the owners

[blazing oar]

but then I was like "tf am I gonna add to the premium plan and tf am I gonna paywall from free users"

[young mortar]

because think about it like this, you have to compete with MediaWiki, and all the many companies that SaaS MediaWiki for people

[young mortar]

that is both not what i meant and also not a good idea lol

[strange estuary]

I'm also tired of premium plans on everything

[blazing oar]

yeah, that part I figured myself xD

[blazing oar]

also kinda agree on this from a consumer POV

[wary willow]

So you're tired of ads and you're tired of paying? Maybe you meant subscriptions rather then premium plans?

[strange estuary]

I do mean subs yes

And, I mean, I'm okay with ads, but ads are usually done in excess nowadays

[blazing oar]

subs are technically the best business model, reliable monthly income

[strange estuary]

yes I get that, they are just so played out now though

[wary willow]

Mostly because they pay less

[blazing oar]

yeah that's why I asked about it initially, I didn't want to have EXCESSIVE ads

but I am totally open to hear other ideas for how to proceed

like star's

[strange estuary]

well I'm kind of looking at this from the lens of bigger businesses who have subscriptions

smaller businesses, can't really comment

but they usually have an excess of ads and subscriptions and offer nothing of improvement over time

for example, my parents paid for an invoicing tool as they do interior painting. Thats a pretty pricey annual sub (no ads obviously, this is just an example) and the service got more expensive over time while offering less

[young mortar]

the best business model FOR THE COMPANY

[wary willow]

Several people are typing...

[trail wave]

deepdish pizza or the classic?

[young mortar]

definitely not the best for consumers

[blazing oar]

Also, just to mention this, while it would obviously be nice to compete with bigger companies, I am honestly more focused on providing a better experience for the user rather than competing with other wiki platforms (and if my ego allows, my platform gonna be so good that others aren't even competition)

[blazing oar]

yes, exactly

[strange estuary]

(we've since switched but it's like.. how are you going to charge more and do a worse job)

(what am I paying you for)

[wary willow]

The user of your service or the user of your user's wiki?

[blazing oar]

both.

[wary willow]

And you think you can make a better wiki than MediaWiki? If so, then go directly against them. A SaaS model.

[blazing oar]

I am focused on providing better tooling for creating wikis while also providing better UX and tooling for search for normal users

[wary willow]

Where people can host their own stuff if they want and you get direct payments for people that don't want to deal with setting up the wiki themselves

[blazing oar]

my approach to how you create a wiki is also different than the plain way mediawiki does

[strange estuary]

if you really wanna appeal to the user

make sure to give them AI tools on every feature

😎

everyone loves AI 100%

[blazing oar]

you see, I can easily see that working, but what about those who want a better platform, for instance communities of a game (non official), but would have to pay?

[strange estuary]

make sure the wikis are all AI written too

[wary willow]

Also, consider ads, if you don't end up becoming an ad company as well, you'll have to use something like google ads which will also be very intrusive and you don't have moderation over

[blazing oar]

I honestly asked myself where I'd put AI in the platform, I genuinely couldn't find a place to use it besides "writing the wiki" which makes no sense at all

[young mortar]

then I'm gonna be honest, it's probably not very good

[strange estuary]

don't

just

avoid AI

[young mortar]

MediaWiki is basically the best way a cooperate wiki like that can work

[strange estuary]

your service will probably be liked more without it xD

[young mortar]

I've learned that the hard way trying many alternatives lmao

[blazing oar]

my point is that even if I wanted to, I couldn't find a place

[strange estuary]

I swear all these companies adding AI know we hate it

[young mortar]

the real captive market is just like making MediaWiki but with all the tech debt removed, like a real settings page instead of just a million special pages, and nice user auth baked in and everything

[strange estuary]

but it appeases boomer investors

[blazing oar]

what did you have in mind when I said it would be different? what aspects of mediawiki?

just curious if we are on the same page

[strange estuary]

I could be totally incorrect but idk, I swear they must know we don't like AI being crammed down our throats

[blazing oar]

well whole convo started because ❌ Ads

[young mortar]

im not sure since you didn't say anything, but i have a feeling whatever you've cooked up is going to be a little bizarre lmao

[wary willow]

I misspoke. What I meant to say, is that if you do end up going with ads, there are downsides

[young mortar]

and specifically saying this also gives me a bad feeling lmao

[wary willow]

Google ads, especially video ones, are meant to take the whole page. A lot of sites hide them in the corner but that breaks TOS

Is MediaWiki OS? And what license is it under?

[young mortar]

to be fair i think breaking the google ads ToS by making their ads less intrusive is like, the least of your problems lmao

[young mortar]

yes, LPGL

[wary willow]

At this point you can just form it and improve it and resell it I guess

Maybe even bake in ads if you really want to

and give free hosting

[young mortar]

yeah that's what MediaWiki hosting companies do (aka Fandom)

you've reinvented the wheel lmao

[trail wave]

[strange estuary]

tbh I actually think more people should reinvent the wheel, as long as their reinvention just stay the same and actually blossoms into something

[trail wave]

what are yall talking about

[blazing oar]

I'd say it's quite a decent mix of both worlds. Very early thing, but the idea is to have a bunch of components available, and put them in a grid like shown below.

You can structure it way better than just in a plain "text wall", and allows for stuff like, easily keeping game wikis up to date with an api.
If you want to use the "old" way, you can simply put a single Text component, cover the whole grid, and just use it like if it were a normal "file" with markdown

[young mortar]

unethical software companies lmao

[strange estuary]

maybe a silly way of looking at it but even the simplest things now seem to be turning sour lol, wish there was more competition and stuff in the mix

[wary willow]

@trail wave, if you need XP, you can also try #chat-reaction . You play games to earn XP. I do have to tell you, going to tier 2 is not that fast. Not even talking

[young mortar]

wait until you discover HTML and CSS lmao

how do you think every single wiki out there has pages that aren't just text like that

[trail wave]

oh, thank you for letting me know, btw are there any perks with leveling up?

[young mortar]

and then wrapping around, I definitely think a logical flow of content like a document with sections and subsections, etc. is basically the best way to structure content like a wiki does

[blazing oar]

the idea is to appeal to the consumer, have a way more user friendly way of customzing things, and also keeping consistency between wikis (which according to a survey I did, a bunch of people hate)

[wary willow]

Some. Not very big. At tier 2 you unlock some extra channels I believe, also possibility to send images directly in chat

[young mortar]

bro consistency between wikis is going to be at 0% if you can freely drag and drop shit everywhere

[wary willow]

and I also think now you can do masked links like this one at tier 2

[blazing oar]

Hell, drag and dropping things around compared to using html and css is 2 different worlds

[blazing oar]

consistency was not about the structure, since that structure is still limited inside the grid

[young mortar]

at least i have a good feeling that every wiki page I go to will have an infobox on the top right, and a ToC on the top left, and will be split into relatively consistent logical sections

and that's definitely worth its wieght in gold

[strange estuary]

welp I failed twice and that's where I give up

[trail wave]

oh that would be kinda sweet.

[strange estuary]

(a)[https://google.com]

??

[wary willow]

@strange estuary , barry deletes it automatically when you try to use masked links

also its text

[strange estuary]

a

[young mortar]

yeah bro had it backwards lmao

[strange estuary]

rightttt

😭

[blazing oar]

those can still be a standard lol, table of contents would still exist

[young mortar]

yeah but having it just be fucking anywhere is not good

having a wiki page be - just that - a standard semantic document page is very important

why do you think every single other wiki ever does a similar thing

[strange estuary]

wait is small text still a thin

[trail wave]

• a

[strange estuary]

-# a

-# yes it is

[blazing oar]

it's not anywhere literally

[trail wave]

-# a

[blazing oar]

hard to show in a picture, but all components are "pushed to the top"

[honest thistle]

FAQ Answer:

https://paste.helpch.at/ifomeqolan.sql

Requested by: blitzoffline • roleperks

[young mortar]

so what is the value in your system then, you can float: right; boxes?

[wary willow]

@trail wave this is an almost up to date list of perks for different tiers

[blazing oar]

you can't like put a box 2000 km to the bottom and have a big white space between them

[trail wave]

oh alright.

[young mortar]

having a stacked css grid of boxes isn't good coherent document reading experience either

[strange estuary]

[wary willow]

The SMP server is no longer 😭

[blazing oar]

and resize them, and have a bunch of different components, like better table integration, graphs, etc. all built in

[strange estuary]

I see.. literally never knew about that

[wary willow]

RIP 2020-2020 or something like that

[trail wave]

btw am just curious, the reports i do via /report, where does it go to?

[blazing oar]

AND "ease of use"

which is the main objective

[young mortar]

see, but all that shit already exists, has years of documentation, and is free and open source on MediaWiki

[wary willow]

To the void. We don't care about reports /s

[blazing oar]

(btw, according to my survey, most people want either full component based or a mix)

[young mortar]

you have to beat that, is the probblem

[wary willow]

It goes to private channels where admins and a few moderators can access them

[trail wave]

oh ma gawd

[blazing oar]

is it as easy to use? for a normal user?

[wary willow]

I think. I am not 100% sure. Don't have access

[trail wave]

i see.

[young mortar]

99.999% of people using a wiki are not editing it

they are consuming it, and i suppose they are consuming your shitty ads lmao

[blazing oar]

also, no. I don't actually. I am trying to approach a problem differently, my objective right now is far from "oh, I wanna beat fandom"

[young mortar]

and the people who are editing it already know basic HTML/CSS/Wikitext like how MediaWiki does it

because everybody uses MediaWiki

[blazing oar]

exactly, so why just create a copy of it...

[young mortar]

then why are you asking about fucking ads lmao, you're never going to get close to doing anything if your platform is dogshit for end users

[blazing oar]

like, trying to create different approachs is beneficial

[young mortar]

that's my point

[blazing oar]

maybe it works

maybe it doesn't

but IF it works, then it is good

[young mortar]

yeah so make your shit and figure out if it does or doesn't work

then maybe you can think about enshittifying it with ads everywhere

[blazing oar]

ngl you sound like passive agressive lol

[young mortar]

oh it's not very passive i'd say lmao

[blazing oar]

(I was being nice)

[young mortar]

i'm very open about my hatred for ads and shitty website experiences

[blazing oar]

yeah, but you don't seem so open to have noticied that I agree with you and am open to hearing other ideas (like I heard yours and agree with your SaaS approach)

[wary willow]

:))))

[young mortar]

i mean you obviously don't agree with me on a lot of things lmao, otherwise we wouldn't be talking anymore

[wary willow]

I was going to say that

[young mortar]

point being, you asked for advice and opinions, and i gave you mine

[wary willow]

Star, its ok to take breaks every now and then

[blazing oar]

I approach things critically, and I love to understand other people's views and reasoning, which is what I am trying right now

while also explaining my point of view on the matter ^^

[young mortar]

that ads are a horrible end user experience, that the only way you're really going to make any money is from SaaS, and that in my years of experience, I haven't had a better system of wiki management than a document style like MediaWiki

so i mean yeah, good luck on your project, hope it turns out well, but i'm just trying to warn you that it might be best to stick mostly to conventional practices for better adoption and end-user experience

[blazing oar]

1. agree
2. probably yeah
3. that I can't say much to, but the idea is to approach the problem from a different perspective, what's wrong in that? At the end, as said, you can fallback to doing it the conventional way anyways.

[long summit]

If you want to make money with your service, charging people to create their own wiki is better than ads

Fucking hate ad infested wikis

[young mortar]

on god

[blazing oar]

just to clarify, I am with you lol

[young mortar]

i hate ad infested websites period lmao, can't open half the news articles on my google recommended feed or whatever on my phone without it dramatically slowing down the entire OS and eating my battery life

[wary willow]

I recommend pihole. Man, life is so good with it.

Though it doesn't work for instagram and tiktok. Fortunatelly I don't use those

[young mortar]

yeah but what about on my cell service 😭

[wary willow]

UBlock Origin. Unfortunatelly that's the best I can give 😭

Still, not the worst

[young mortar]

oh yeah already got that shit on lock and key

firefox my beloved

[blazing oar]

and just to restate, I agree with you, and thank you for letting me know how you'd approach the business model, and you have changed my view on it, as in, I now realised that ADs are not the only way. (thank god)

I think the topic now is rather if my approach to how wikis are done compared to mediawiki is any good.

[wary willow]

I've swapped from firefox after the changes they've made to their policy recently. But god, brave sucks

Like, they take the good shit that chrome has and make it works

worse*

[young mortar]

weren't those meaningless?

and yeah i don't want chrome, so this is basically my only option lol

[wary willow]

Man, tab groups are so good

I really hate that firefox is not adding them

[long summit]

Man if only firefox would improve their engine some things are awful (I've been using Zen which is firefox based for a few months now)

Gradients are probably the most noticeable things firefox just sucks ass at

[young mortar]

i never really got into tab groups, i find i move tabs around and shit a lot more such that micromanaging which groups everything is in would get tedious

[blazing oar]

from an ongoing survey I am running

[strange estuary]

There is only one website that has ever crashed my browser from lag

HeadDatabase

[young mortar]

i generally just open like 50 tabs and then scroll through them and have a good feeling of where everything is as a kind of history lmao

[strange estuary]

And it’s insane

[blazing oar]

but I guess this is the most relevant

[strange estuary]

The whole website just lags immensely… so many ads

[wary willow]

I don't really use it for personal stuff, and not even for plugins like DeluxeMenus. But for my full time job, it saves me so much time.

That is mostly because our processes suck ass

but still, better to have something than nothing

[young mortar]

ah yeah my job, i end up having the RDP on my middle monitor with IJ and firefox with the actual web app, then my regular computer firefox on the right monitor with like the tickets and all the misc doc/lookup stuff

and i generally just put my tabs in specific places relative to each other, and then use the rest as like a history from left to right of what i was looking up and like docs i wanted to keep open and shit lol

[wary willow]

I have to come back to older tickets a lot, so having tab groups and color coding them knowing what is old and what is current is very nice

also just being able to have the documentation open and come back to it but hidden under one tab group

[young mortar]

i guess i'm also working with full 1440p monitors, so like i have a lot of room for tabs lmao

and i'm quite comfortable with going to a lot of them, i love how firefox keeps the tabs pretty wide and just lets you scroll horizontally through the list, instead of chrome shrinking them smaller and smaller until it's just the favicon

okay i guess firefox also shrinks them a fair bit, but not as much as chrome and i find them much easier to click and reason about lol

[wary willow]

I have a single monitor, so yeah. that makes sense

[young mortar]

yeah if i had to work off my laptop or something, i would probably be into that stuff

[wary willow]

a 27'' 1080 monitor but sometimes off my laptop

which is a lot less inches

[young mortar]

but living the big life, i'd rather use all my space judiciously than hide things and micromanage which groups they're in lol

[blazing oar]

Interesting metric too, but anyways, I see the convo about it ended anyways, so I will go to bed

[wary willow]

I don't know if librewolf changes anything with the engine but I've heard people use it for privacy

[blazing oar]

@strange estuary speaking of AI anywhere, entered insta and saw this 😭

[long summit]

Probably not, if it's firefox based it should have all the issues

Zen has been a really nice browser if you ignore the firefox issues

[wary willow]

I really hate this. Its in everything. gmail, everything

[blazing oar]

Honestly yeah

Some places allow you to disable it

Others just say "deal with it"

[young mortar]

idk im pretty happy with just normal firefox lol, they even got vertical tabs mainlined recently so like, idk

i see the appeal of like Arc, but meh

[blazing oar]

I have switched from brave to Zen and probably couldn't go back

It's a mix of brave with arc but firefox based and imo better

If I am not mistaken, Zen is also privacy focused

[trail wave]

huh

[strange estuary]

meta should burn

metaphorically not literally

get it, meta-phorically hahahhahahahahaha

[trail wave]

oh ma gawd

[trim raft]

Does anyone else have an issue in Firefox where you have to refresh a page twice before you can use it? Happens to me on Instagram and Facebook and YouTube.

Regardless- I'ma look into Zen

[magic summit]

Using content blockers?

[unreal venture]

damn @magic summit is that with resourcepack or smth?

it looks dope af

[magic summit]

Just maps

using interactiveboard

[boreal escarp]

Regarding the discussion from above about ads: I was working on a small website, for vacation deals. Basically I want to help people find cheap combos (hotels + flights) and let them manage the bookings by themselves. Currently the only way I found to monetise this is to look into affiliation with booking.com, kiwi.com and whatever other sites.
I was also considering using ads, but without being too intrusive .. I've seen websites that put the content in the center of the screen and leave space on the sides for ads. Is that good, is that bad?
I hate ads just as much as everyone, especially on mobile where they take up A LOT of the screen

[blissful hazel]

can anyone help me please with my QR scan

[strange estuary]

Tbh, as long as they don't interfere with the site experience the sides are fine

[strange estuary]

How am I doin' with this so far?

Too cramped? Or is it solid?

[vagrant pike]

maybe one more pixel of vertical spacing

[strange estuary]

Gotchu, ty!

[strange estuary]

I think this is pretty solid

This is my first time making a thread-like design

[young mortar]

There’s no way the vanilla Minecraft lowercase t looks like that right

Also why is “14 Rank Groups” so far to the left 😭

[strange estuary]

Yeah no, defo difference

left is mc, right is mine

[strange estuary]

ah missed a space, tysm :D

[young mortar]

The crossbar is one pixel too high

[strange estuary]

Idk how you noticed that but

now that I see the t difference I'm sad

[young mortar]

It was looking real tall lmao

[strange estuary]

otherwise, not too shabby for my first one?

Not super unique or anything but gets the job done

way better than how I started

[young mortar]

Yeah no looks pretty nice, just very text dense but I guess it kinda has to be

All the visual stuff looks really nice though I must admit

[strange estuary]

Yeah I have a bad habbit of writing too much xD

But I feel like I wrote what was needed

The only excessive section I think is the info section but, I wanted to get the scammer story in there

[young mortar]

Maybe you could like group the bullet points somehow?

[strange estuary]

Under features?

[young mortar]

Idk like separate it into sections and like color code the background

Yeah

I feel like it’s hard to skim and find what you want

[strange estuary]

I kinda had it like that before so I'm flipping between both of those styles

I'll give that a try tho for sure

[strange estuary]

Seeing it on the actual product page actually makes it easier imo

It kinda makes everything bigger and more in your face, but yeah I'm defo gonna try the other style later too

not the same product but it's the same way I formatted it before, this new pic is defo an improvement

[sinful maple]

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[magic summit]

I personally dislike using images for info.

Primarely as it is a a11y nightmare

[analog marlin]

https://tenor.com/view/alley-minecraft-legends-minecraft-legends-game-gif-26404663

[strange estuary]

a11y?

Also, I agree, but I will say top resources have these giant pictures on them so I went with what's trendy

[vestal fossil]

@dapper dragon I added you as a friend to dm you about mcmmo discord, would you mind accepting (=

[long summit]

@alpine nebula that is now what #showcase is for

[alpine nebula]

?

[long summit]

#showcase message

[alpine nebula]

where

wrong channle

i ment to put it in tha reqwest 1