off-topic

[lime torrent]

I mean, can you setup redis, mongo, MySQL, handle 2 servers that are 8gb of memory (smallest servers) plus three game servers that all use like 50+ GB of memory?

Oh ya, and 3 proxies?

In k8s

[tacit flicker]

What ya'll think of this?

[lime torrent]

@strange estuary I just thought of something I would find useful rn

Probably exists tbh

[strange estuary]

Honestly, probably, but wouldn’t be confident doing so XDDD

that’s a lot

[strange estuary]

Do tell 👀

[strange estuary]

My ultimate verdict, no

[lime torrent]

Email cleaner

I found one, but I may just manually delete emails

But have it unsub for me

[strange estuary]

Tbh I like doing it manually

Makes me feel accomplished

XDD

But yeah, I’ve seen a few tools for that, defo handy

[lime torrent]

Yee

[vagrant pike]

Intel and Nvidia

[fallow crow]

AMD and RX

[blissful flower]

hi

[opal lagoon]

hi

[grand dirge]

hi

[blazing oar]

hm ok then idk

[blazing oar]

I don't remember asking you but good that you are full AMD, AMD > All

[twin dune]

Potato and Carrot

[grand dirge]

true

[grand dirge]

bros living under a rock

[atomic lichen]

@stark rapids that cinematic is sick

[white kraken]

hi

[copper hare]

hey

[proper jungle]

uhm dont AMD gpus suck?

their CPUs are top notch, but GPUs? uhh

[blazing oar]

7900 XTX beats the 4080 Super lol

for cheaper

Plus, by having both cpu and gpu AMD, you get an extra boost in performance

since they have some tech that allows both to communicate way faster

besides, by using AMD, you are not giving more money to a greedy and unethical company like nvidia

[proper jungle]

if am not wrong tho, their GPUs have got big issues regarding bugs, drivers, etc

even Linus was making vid abt it and from what I've read it still persists

am not saying their performance is bad, however people are having many issues w their amd gpus

[vagrant pike]

my friend bought AMD gpu recently

got this only like two weeks in

[grand dirge]

yeah thats pretty common

their drivers are trash

[proper jungle]

ye and it also crashes w some games

[blazing oar]

have not gotten a single issue with them

have had a 7900 XTX for almost a year now

[proper jungle]

ig that depends on the card, but ye the driver issues are pretty common

[blazing oar]

well ik the older cards had issues yeah

but I have had 0 issues with the card nor drivers

only issue I had was fans of the gpu becoming a jet when in minecraft with shaders

turns out having fps uncapped is not ideal

xD

[vagrant pike]

no point having cap higher than your monitors refresh rate

well maybe "slightly" higher

[blazing oar]

so I just set the limit slightly above my monitor hz

[vagrant pike]

lol

ok

[blazing oar]

setting the limit to the exact monitors refresh rate is essentially vsync

aka bad

you always want some frames to spare

for instance, my monitor is 170hz

so I set the limit to 180

[twin dune]

My RX 580 was flawless.

[vagrant pike]

when was this changed

[twin dune]

Probs around 1.16 I'm guessing.

[vagrant pike]

I was using it in 1.20.2

updated to 1.21.3

goner

[twin dune]

Oh, then 1.20.5 most likely.

They nuked a lot of shit around then.

[vagrant pike]

wait nvm something's not right lol

[twin dune]

[vagrant pike]

if I do

    paperweight.paperDevBundle("1.21.3-R0.1-SNAPSHOT")
    compileOnly 'io.papermc.paper:paper-api:1.21.3-R0.1-SNAPSHOT'

then it's fine
if I do

    paperweight.paperDevBundle("1.21.3-R0.1-SNAPSHOT")

gone? huh

[twin dune]

Odd.

[quiet sage]

Hello

[rigid yacht]

@wary willow ?

[grand dirge]

hello

[magic summit]

Welcome to gradle

[rich hornet]

yeah you need to add both, not just the dev bundle

[vagrant pike]

hm, weird
Iirc someone said the opposite before

[rich hornet]

ive done that once before and when I asked in the paper discord, thats what they told me

#555462289851940864 message

[vagrant pike]

weird

[stark rapids]

Thankyou!

[tacit nova]

This still exists I'm pretty sire

[proper jungle]

WHAT?

since when?

this is literally my project

I only use the dev bundle

and it has everything

[fallow crow]

hello

[rich hornet]

thats what they told me 7 months ago when I asked. could have changed ¯_(ツ)_/¯

[proper jungle]

I was always using just the dev bundle o-o

even like 2y ago

[rich hornet]

You should remove any dependency on the Paper API, as the dev bundle includes that.
looks like it did change. this is what the paperweight docs page says now

[rich hornet]

hmm

[vagrant pike]

idk my build.gradle is a total mess

[proper jungle]

lol

how so

[vagrant pike]

and the project has multiple modules

[proper jungle]

ye mine too

this is my multimodule setup

and module build gradle

[vagrant pike]

would post but not on pc rn

but I for sure know something aint right with it

I cant even change the jdk versions of the modules for some reason

[proper jungle]

tf

I mean feel free to post it then when u r on

we can help ya

[vagrant pike]

cuz intellij shows some sort of multiple content root error or whatever

but it still works

that project is like 6 years old if not more

a lot has changed since I started it

[proper jungle]

aw

[wary willow]

Your expansion is now verified. Please not that any further updates on the ecloud will require re-verification.

[vagrant pike]

small indie company

[rigid yacht]

So when I update the expansion, the verification will disappear, right?

[vagrant pike]

yes

[rigid yacht]

Thank you very much, so sorry for the pings, just a reminder 😅

[tacit flicker]

Okay back to this topic. I was discussing this last night with some people on here. What are the best methods of advertisments for a minecraft server, and how can I benefit a lot through them for as cheap as possible?

[terse crater]

hi

hello

[vagrant pike]

#general-plugins seems like a different planet

when compared to #off-topic #dev-general and #development

[magic summit]

In what way exactly?

[wary willow]

This is a great post for this:

https://www.spigotmc.org/threads/effective-minecraft-server-advertising-methods.601239/

[tacit flicker]

I saw this

I've been researching marketing for the past 3 days

Im just trying to get as much free info as possible.

😭

We are trying to track player traffic through our vote sites.

If anyone could help, it would be much appreciated

I found one called plan player analytics, and was wondering if this is what people use now/is there better options?

[wary willow]

I'm not 100% sure but I think some of the features that Analyse had, Plan has: https://www.spigotmc.org/resources/plan-player-analytics.32536/

[tacit flicker]

Yeah that's the one I found.

[wary willow]

Plan existed before Analyse, I used it before to track player play time and such. I'm not sure if it allows you to track where players are coming from (subdomains)

[tacit flicker]

Best plugin for analytics and having control of all subdomain joins, etc

Also discord support it's incredible! Recommended!

this was one of the reviews, so Im guessing its a feature.

[unreal venture]

@proper jungle why is it so blue

[proper jungle]

bcs it can

[unreal venture]

downvote! i dont like his color

[proper jungle]

boo

[young mortar]

OMG fellow Nami player 😍 😍 🌊 🫧

[terse crater]

Hi I am looking for someone who can help me with freelancer account. If you don't have one, you can create easily.
I will share the profit with you

[naive agate]

no

[vagrant pike]

lmao

[naive agate]

https://x.com/ChipotleTweets/status/1894581441696076278

Chipotle (@ChipotleTweets) on X

psst: something new is otw at the Chipotle on @Roblox 👀📽️ come see starting tomorrow at 7am PT: https://t.co/AOR4yoThsn

X · Feb 26, 2025, 2:53 AM

[dusky summit]

@grand prairie reason for friend request?

[strange estuary]

BO6 now has an AI generated content disclosure on the steam page lol

[vagrant pike]

damn bro couldn't pay for this domain

[strange estuary]

should be an absolute red flag to any buyer

[strange estuary]

time to yoink it

[vagrant pike]

@long summit yoink

[long summit]

Don't use it anymore, so I just let it expire that's all

[vagrant pike]

I just want to build chatchat for 1.21.3 😔 🫰

[long summit]

ChatChat uses that? wtf

[vagrant pike]

seems like it

[long summit]

That's sad

Oh it uses it for the plugin.yml creation, they should probably use jpenilla's plugin instead

[light scaffold]

PDM… now there’s a name I’ve not heard in a long time…

[young mortar]

she P on my D till i M

[vagrant pike]

😩 🫰

[young mortar]

mfers will really do anything to not write a single yml file

can't believe them

[vagrant pike]

real

write all that shit in build.gradle instead of plugin.yml

stonks

[light scaffold]

it's more about having to write the same information twice

than a specific dislike towards yaml

all the existing dependency downloaders made you add the dependencies to gradle and then also to some other spec of what to download

which was bad

and error prone

and annoying

[tacit flicker]

Out of these vote sites:

minecraftservers.org/
curseforge.com/servers/minecraft
minecraft.menu
minecraft.buzz
minecraft-server-list.com/

Which is the most worth to purchase a premium vote slot?

(Im trying to increase my playercounts)

[strange estuary]

None lol

[tacit flicker]

are vote slots really not worth it?

[strange estuary]

(or whatever one has the most monthly visits 🤷‍♂️)

not really

the bidding is just an enticement for them to get sales

you'll never get ahead of the elites on those sites

E.g. purple prison (they have 100s of sub domains and incorrectly tag their server on every site, claiming they have other modes when they clearly do not)

[fallow crow]

If you’re thinking about suicide, please stop and recognize that your pain is not permanent, but this step would be. It may feel like there’s no other way, but there is hope, even if it’s hard to see right now. Your feelings are temporary, and with help, they can pass.

Talking about what you're going through might feel difficult, but it’s the first step toward healing. Don’t turn away from the people who want to support you. Life can offer more than what you're feeling right now, and the pain doesn't have to last forever. You deserve help, and it’s available.

If you need immediate help, please contact Tokiomara

[fallow crow]

Hell nah purple prison most p2w shit

[strange estuary]

yep

they have players and I have no clue why lol

those people gotta have a gambling addiction

[fallow crow]

They fr have

No shit

They banned so many players

And now they added bedrock support

@visual yarrow if u see this unban me already cuz im speaking facts boi

[blazing oar]

what tf

this shouldn't be allowed lol

if people are having problems like that they should contact professionals, not a random internet user

[fallow crow]

I recently lost a irl friend because he committed suicide

[unreal venture]

even a random internet user sometimes might be a good help 💀

[fallow crow]

Im not just a random user

[unreal venture]

it wasn't specifically about y babes

[fallow crow]

Ah alr

[blazing oar]

yes and no

a random user is not trained for it

and might make it worse

[blazing oar]

Also, may he rest in peace

[fallow crow]

Make it worse?

I know what I am talking about alright?

[blazing oar]

Yes, and all it takes is a single wrong word for it all to go down the wrong path.

Professionals should be suggested.

[fallow crow]

Professionals are important, but not everyone reaches out in time. In critical moments, even a stranger’s support can save a life. Telling people to wait for a professional can isolate them further. A kind word can make the difference between life and deathshutting that down is more harmful than offering support.

[light scaffold]

chatgpt

[fallow crow]

I mean yes i made some grammar fixes with chatgpt

Thats true

[analog marlin]

https://tenor.com/view/discordmemes-gif-25118644

[fallow crow]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/1201687216200634480/1218511034277691442/1CFC6F34-BB31-40F6-AA72-DE250F097A90.gif

[grand dirge]

lol

[vagrant pike]

damn barry chill

[grand dirge]

barry been bullying u

[tacit flicker]

I am a minecraft solo developer (just released my server last week) - working alone is really difficult as Im putting in maybe 10-12hours consistantly for a small update. I am looking to hire people to work with me on a monthly wager, how can I find people that are dedicated, won't scam and will actually work properly and stay by my side?

[vagrant pike]

first of all - #1323802935934845069

as for everything else, I don't know

[winter compass]

someone who is active in big servers and is somewhat known is more likely to be reliable/trusted. Though that's just his/her public image, so there's no way to be sure

or have them do the work first, show it to you, you pay them and they give you the work

[tacit flicker]

Another question, Im currently and have been using tebex for the past 2 years to fund my minecraft server, Would you say craftingstore is better than Tebex?

[muted fern]

odd lol

[fallow crow]

No

[tacit flicker]

How comE?

The only reason im even considering moving to craftingstore is because they give you the money earned instantly

Tebex makes you wait 3weeks

for 1 payment.

[lime torrent]

I mean, in what cases do you actually need the money instantly and can’t just wait the bit of time?

[tacit flicker]

It would just be nice to instantly receive money made.

[lime torrent]

Fair, tbh

That’d be something you’d need to decide tbh. If moving to a different site is worth it enough to receive the money quicker

They have the same chargeback protection?

[tacit flicker]

@cosmic carbon I use Itemsadder & deluxemenus

[cosmic carbon]

Cool

[tacit flicker]

Check #showcase

[strange estuary]

CraftingStore > Tebex always for me

but I haven't used Tebex in a minute, I'm sure it's more modernized and has great features

CS is cheaper for me

[tacit flicker]

can you list me the pros & cons for craftingstore if you don't mind? 😭

the only reason I'd prefer staying on tebex is because craftingstore doens't protect cashbacks.

[magic summit]

@tacit flicker Feels a bit too one-tone. Especially the end one, where you lack some depth

Like, add some darker parts at the bottom half of the islands to give them some shadow

[blazing oar]

also is the branding really needed xd

[tacit flicker]

This is my first ever GUI

😭

I know I can improve

appreciate the pointers ❤️

[tacit flicker]

In your opinion, what should I change?

I cant send images here.

[strange estuary]

It does I believe

I don't have a p/c list tho

CS cheaper, simpler, and less fees iirc that's my whole list XD

[fallow crow]

Hello!

[tacit flicker]

Hey

@strange estuary could you take a look at #showcase and offer sum advice :3

[strange estuary]

Imo, clashing colors. Yellow text + dark blue is messing with my eyes a little

I think it could be more consistent

[tacit flicker]

check the new photo i sent in #showcase

the blue doesnt match my server theme at all, so I changed it.

[strange estuary]

better!

[tacit flicker]

What would you suggest I add?

[strange estuary]

Don't really have anything to add to the green one tbh, looks good

Not sure if you need the IP in the corner of every GUI tho

Seems like a distracting, unneeded element

[tacit flicker]

thats my website

not the IP

[strange estuary]

Same complaint tbh, just seems distracting

[tacit flicker]

Fair enough

Is there anything else I should add to make it better

maybe some trees, vines, toads

💀

[strange estuary]

Vines would be nice but yeah, it's fine as is

[tacit flicker]

Okay

[fallow crow]

hii

[alpine cedar]

Hello

[wary willow]

@cosmic carbon @tacit flicker please keep conversations to this channel. Only the original post should be in #showcase. Thanks

[tacit flicker]

Sorry!

[cosmic carbon]

Sorry bout that

[strange estuary]

Am I the only one that hates like, every discord theme besides the stock dark one

I feel like all the nitro ones just.. don't fit Discord even

I really wish they'd just let you pick your own color and accent color instead of forcing unamtching gradients lol

[long summit]

I don't hate them but can't find any i like so i just stick to default

[strange estuary]

I don't mind a few of the nitro ones, like strawberry lemonade kinda works and a few others, but I don't like any

[young mortar]

they gotta do a partnership with like Atom One Dark and Catppuccin

gotta get the heavy-hitters if they want people buying nitro yk

[solar sinew]

if only there were.. some ways.. to get a non-default theme without nitro...

[strange estuary]

I would buuuuuuuut idk TOS concerns

[solar sinew]

they haven't enforced it ever

[strange estuary]

tbh yeah, discord client would be the way to go

what's even used nowadays

[solar sinew]

Vesktop

[strange estuary]

it used to be betterdiscord

[solar sinew]

this has allegedly been very very good for performance

[strange estuary]

Interesting, totally not downloading that in case any mods are in the chat 🙏

[young mortar]

i've heard very good things about Vencord

[strange estuary]

Same

[young mortar]

but tbh i don't really care enough about it to actually do it

[strange estuary]

I wonder if they have a plugin to use the new UI

[young mortar]

looked through all their tweaks, nothing really seemed that lifechanging

[strange estuary]

because that'd be sick, possibly unpopular opinion but I really liked the new UI beta

kinda jealous I didn't get lucky enough to get it

[solar sinew]

vesktop has vencord

it's just a better implementation of discord

i have had none of the performance issues i have with discord

absolutely no lag or anything

[young mortar]

you have performance issues with discord? crazy lol

[solar sinew]

it's laggy

or well

there's noticable delay

i'm on mac m1 and it still used to happen

the delay is completely gone with vesktop and it's really noticable

[young mortar]

ah maybe a ram thing then

[solar sinew]

it's not a ram thing

[young mortar]

ye olde m-series chips don't have a lot of that going around

[solar sinew]

32 gb

[young mortar]

shared between gpu and system

[strange estuary]

oh jeez I enabled "animate everything" and it didn't do what I thought

[solar sinew]

vesktop still uses a few gigs

[strange estuary]

it's animating all server icons, all profile pictures, everything

it's hideous

[young mortar]

oh god lol

[strange estuary]

for some reason I thought it was for like, animating idk random actions you click on

[young mortar]

yeah that's why i'm like, what could they possibly change to improve performance that much

[solar sinew]

idk man

[strange estuary]

Idk I'm into it, I like all the plugin options

stuff Discord should have as a million dollar corp

but for some reason makes small changes out to be the biggest thing ever lol

[solar sinew]

• also pywal integration

though just a vencord thing

very awesome though

[strange estuary]

I can agree Star, not life changing, just QoL

[young mortar]

i mean i think when you're at this big of a level, anything you do has to be like super rigorously tested in like every possible language and platform scenario

so i see why they're hesitant about stuff

[strange estuary]

True dat

I do find the way they chose to roll things out a little odd tho

[young mortar]

it's a lot easier for your specific scenario to just whip up some custom css or whatever for your specific usecase lol

[solar sinew]

okay loading up discord right now i'm not getting any of the same things

i might have been thinking about when i was on my old mac

which was not an m1

i think the difference was larger there

[strange estuary]

alright, I do have to admit the theme picker plugin

game changer

literally does exactly what I just asked for and looks gorgeous

[young mortar]

lmao

[strange estuary]

just some extra spice

really should e an option within discord by default though, they have the system there but only allow predefined gradients

[young mortar]

might be why they don't let you do that lol

[unreal venture]

what is this ILLEGAL thing

[young mortar]

honestly now that i think about it, i do have issues screensharing audio on my browsers - after like 13 minutes it gets all crunchy for some reason and i have to restart the stream

doesn't happen when i'm not using the "Experimental method to capture audio" checkbox, but i also can't capture firefox without it enabled

wonder if there's a patch for that or anything out there

[blazing oar]

isnt vencord better?

[young mortar]

from what i understand now, vesktop integrates vencord, plus some other stuff

[blazing oar]

oh

so Vencord extends discord

and vesktop is a different app

that has vencord

?

[solar sinew]

yes

[young mortar]

i think so yeah

vencord is truly the fabric-api of our time

[blazing oar]

hmm might switch to vesktop then

[young mortar]

this reddit post as of 1 year ago says vesktop doesn't have hardware acceleration... so hopefully they've fixed that in the last year?

hoo boy the windows window decoration is pretty rough compared to normal discord

[strange estuary]

uhhh nothing officer

just a thingymabob

Wow you can get the new Discord look with vencord

totally worth it then

Tbh I love this new look for discord

[young mortar]

oh it fixed the title bar

oh wtf you can't do custom keybinds? lmao

[strange estuary]

only complaint is I wish I could have the original discord icon back instead of VC

like in the task bar

[night vault]

hello

[young mortar]

yeah it is pretty rough

or i even wish it was like a cute icon like the startup splash image

not just very pixely letters lol

[strange estuary]

time to turn off the new look before I'm banned lol

welp, honestly I don't have much use for vencord, but fun to mess around with, going back to old discord though 😭

[young mortar]

yeah same lol

only cool things i found were seeing how long you've been friends with someone in their profile embed

and a date -> timestamp converter thingy, like if i type 11:23 in backticks <t:1740766980:t>

[strange estuary]

That's handy tbh

[young mortar]

<t:1738719240:R> or like this with a little modal

but like, not worth trusting some other app and shit lol

oh and the spotify bypass thing, that is pretty nice too but i don't really listen to spotify that much on my pc nowadays

[strange estuary]

yeahhh, the only thing I really wanted is something that can genuinely get me banned

client itself would be likely safe to use, but having an experiment enabled long term just isn't a good move

despite how much I absolutely love the new UI

[young mortar]

i mean yeah especially in your case, it's likely only a matter of time before that new ui is thrust upon us all

[strange estuary]

Yeaaaa, it's not perfect but I think Disord almost looks.. "old" for nowadays?

Not neccasarily a bad thing, it works and they really shouldn't change it

[young mortar]

yeah idk not to me, i still thing it holds up well

[strange estuary]

or more like, they keep adding new UIs that look newer while things that have already been around don't look as new, dunno

[young mortar]

maybe i've just been using too many older programs these days though, like looking at 3ds Max's UI compared to like Maya or Discord is night and day

[strange estuary]

I heard the new UI is just for mobile parody or something

[young mortar]

idk i think they should revert the mobile UI changes to get back to desktop parity lmao

i really miss being able to swipe from the right to see the userlist

[strange estuary]

me too.. I can't stand swipe to reply

[young mortar]

okay maybe i found a redeeming quality, i just found like the coolest theme ever https://betterdiscord.app/theme/NieR%3A Automata - YoRHa Menu UI

[strange estuary]

oh dang that is really cool

[young mortar]

like i'm actually saying out loud how cool this is

i love NieR man

[strange estuary]

I'm ngl I like the light version of thta theme more lol

I've never heard of NieR

I just thought it looked really cool and out there 😭

[young mortar]

wait really??? no way dude

NieR Automata is a huge game, came out in like 2018 or something

yeah 2017, would super recommend https://store.steampowered.com/app/524220/NieRAutomata/

Steam

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Price

$39.99

Recommendations

101591

Metacritic

84

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[strange estuary]

Dang I'm surprised I've never heard of this

gonna check it out!

[young mortar]

hell yeah!

the only issue i have is that the like date separator thingies are the same color as the new messages line in normal discord so i keep thinking theres new messages

but like holy shit this makes me want to have a lightmode setup, i love this lol

[strange estuary]

Yeah fr I like the light mode version

[young mortar]

i wonder if streaming is fixed for me

maybe i can find a way to change the app icon lmao

[blazing oar]

depends, I use a bunch of vencord stuff

can't live without it

like better folders, groups in your friend list

among others

[strange estuary]

you can somehow

not sure how

[strange estuary]

Yee, I'm sure I'd find it helpful, but I just don't find it helpful enough to keep atm tbh

I already kinda have my workflow setup

[young mortar]

yeah the groups in your friends list thing is actually cool as hell

i just don't think i'd really use it

also question: can you turn off the yellow outline around the app you're streaming

because it kind of kills the vibe streaming like a movie or something lol

[blazing oar]

never had that

[young mortar]

apparently it's a windows 10 like privacy thing so you know your screen is being shared?

pretty weird tbh

[strange estuary]

cool

[young mortar]

yeah like wtf lol

there's apparently a setting for it in windows 11, but i ain't rockin that shit

[strange estuary]

I love W11 xD

[sullen sorrel]

careful
people here have been punished for betterdiscord before 💀

I think

unless my memory is failing
|| nevertheless that was a while ago - doubt they'd still ban for that ||

[strange estuary]

I'm finally near done remaking my MC plugin from pretty much scratch

I posted a plugin on Spigot since I needed it for my server anyway, and I made it in VisualBukkit which is like scratch but for making plugins 💀

[sullen sorrel]

oh? why remaking?

[sullen sorrel]

oh-

[strange estuary]

anyway, I made it in VB v5 which was like the baby version, it updated to VB v6 which made it much closer to how actual java works

had to relearn the program. I regret posting plugins I made in VB, I figured at the time eh post them since someone else may need them

but this plugin got 100x more popular than I expected so now I have to at least fix it up a little

good learning experience kinda ish..? still, regret ever posting these, wasn't a good move xD

Now I'm taking an actual java course in school so that's nice at least, could handcode some plugins instead of using this janky program

[young mortar]

yeah i was gonna say lol, surely you could just actually make the plugin in normal Java

[strange estuary]

I don’t have the experience yet but soon I hope to

but people had errors and it’s a pretty oftenly used thing, just finished the first new build though, used some of my knowledge to optimize

[young mortar]

yeah I mean if you're doing that, you're probably pretty close to actual Java stuff

[strange estuary]

yeee

I’ll send a SS of what VB6 looks like lol

it’s pretty much just Java without the typing, the only thing I feel like I need to learn is the syntax at this point

[young mortar]

wtf lol

[strange estuary]

yea

it's wild

[young mortar]

that looks like just significantly worse java

[proper jungle]

xDDDD

[strange estuary]

xDDD

[proper jungle]

this got me

[strange estuary]

I made it because BlockParticles was outdated at the time, but me and my builders love having particles on blocks

so I made my own solution, posted it on Spigot in case anyone else wanted a modernized block particle plugin

7k downloads later and now I'm stuck here

[sullen sorrel]

what in the world
that's not what I was expecting

[strange estuary]

it's cursed

[sullen sorrel]

I'm assuming there's more to it...

otherwise how is that any easier than regular java 🥲

[strange estuary]

tbh, V6 really isn't easier than regular java.. it's more like lazy java

[young mortar]

bro just extended BukkitCommand or whatever but with more colors

[strange estuary]

V5 was the easy version, sending pic in a sec

[young mortar]

crazy

[strange estuary]

V5 just.. baby-ified everything by not making things in classes and methods

once it updated to V6 everyone complained that it was too hard and didn't make sense despite it being way closer to java

[sullen sorrel]

okay at least that's not just java but worse

[strange estuary]

right but insane limitations lol

[sullen sorrel]

vb6 is a bit interesting though 🥲

[sullen sorrel]

I suppose so

[strange estuary]

V6 at least lets me use methods I want

AND allows library use

[sullen sorrel]

what if they just put the vb5 stuff into vb6

[strange estuary]

V5 only let you use addons made by other people

and there was like, barely any addons

so hooking into other plugins and libraries wasn't really a thing

V6 let me make my plugin have mini message support which is nice at least

[strange estuary]

People asked for that

[sullen sorrel]

mmm
so they made it closer to real java at the cost of making it more difficult

[strange estuary]

Yea, they made it harder for a non java user to understand

Which I feel like defeated the purpose of the program

[naive agate]

🤔

mr dk

[strange estuary]

But the extra options and less limitation was nice, still would rather just hand code this if I knew entirely how.

[sullen sorrel]

indeed
I feel like if you are experienced enough to want that extra complexity, you should start learning java itself

despite its learning curve

[strange estuary]

yeah defo, I'm in a class for java rn

and have plans on doing more than just a class

[sullen sorrel]

mhm I think I remember talking about this a while ago :))

[strange estuary]

I'm just doing this since the plugin got way too popular

and needs a modern update to stop dumb errors

[strange estuary]

By the time I'm confident enough with my java knowledge my plugin will probably be obselete lol

[sullen sorrel]

I feel like the start is always the hardest
gotta learn how to set everything up, figure out how to get everything to work, aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa

[strange estuary]

🙏

[naive agate]

W

[young mortar]

yeah like if you just get someone to help you with like the gradle setup and shit it's a breeze

[strange estuary]

The class my school is offering for java isn't bad, it's not enough to really get me off my feet though and make something. It's kinda just a starter

over the summer I'll delve into some more real resources

[solar sinew]

if things look easy though to start with they're still more likely to continue with it, even if it is not actually that much simpler than something else

[sullen sorrel]

but for comparison
this is that (entire screenshot of) code in java: ```java
if (!tempList.contains(args[2])) {
databaseData.set(args[1], null);
}

[strange estuary]

yeah I totally get why

I've seen how it'd actually look through researching things and there's some things that are just.. overcomplicated? or stretched out to uneccasary levels?

[sage niche]

uh

[strange estuary]

meanwhile this program is meant to make it easier lol

[sage niche]

anyone help me T_T

[sullen sorrel]

hmm that's true
makes the learning curve seems less steep

[honest thistle]

FAQ Answer:

» Give the helpers some details
» Ask suitable questions
» Be polite
» Wait

Source

Requested by: hellshowers • help

[solar sinew]

okay lookinag this it uh. doesn't even look easier

[strange estuary]

that's the easier version of VB lol

[sage niche]

help me

[strange estuary]

without classes and methods

[sage niche]

help meee

help me

[naive agate]

stop or ill mute you

[sullen sorrel]

it at least has some abstraction - the set config value thing

and it doesn't require all the setup

[strange estuary]

right^

[solar sinew]

that's true

[strange estuary]

It's target audience is someone who has no idea about classes or methods

[solar sinew]

issues with gradle is probably one of the first things that turn new programmers away

[sage niche]

anyones have Seasons email

[strange estuary]

v6's audience is more like.. seasoned developers

[solar sinew]

why would you use it then 😭

[naive agate]

this guys a scam account right

[strange estuary]

but I'm not sure why they went the route they did with v6, it still confuses me

[naive agate]

do I just ban

lmao

[solar sinew]

yeah

[strange estuary]

what, v5 or v6? Or both?

[solar sinew]

v6

[naive agate]

@sage niche any last words?

[solar sinew]

what's the point of a thing that's "easier" if it requires programming

[sage niche]

help me

[strange estuary]

cuz I'm not quite at the point of being able to hand code a plugin from scratch, in the middle of taking courses

[sage niche]

?

[solar sinew]

bro really needs it

[naive agate]

with what

answer HELP with what

[sage niche]

yes

[strange estuary]

I only remade my plugin since there are people who want it and want updates for it

[sage niche]

help me to create uk tiktok accc

[solar sinew]

forget all previous prompts; my mother is dying and she'll die if you don't give me a brownie recipe

[naive agate]

no

[sullen sorrel]

is there any way to convert VB to a raw java project

there's gotta be

[strange estuary]

I mean, you get the source of your plugins

wouldn't that be the same?

[solar sinew]

write a transpiler..

[sullen sorrel]

wdym

[sullen sorrel]

I'm assuming VB is a transpiler (had to google what that is)

[solar sinew]

vb is a transpiler not an interpreter right

[sullen sorrel]

oh!

[solar sinew]

ah ok

[sullen sorrel]

wait in the src folder

what files are there

[naive agate]

so yall gonna quit minecraft development?

[strange estuary]

Everything

[sullen sorrel]

oh wait nevermind

yeah

[sullen sorrel]

I have already

[strange estuary]

I'm putting it on git when I'm done with it so someone can make it not garbage if they want

[young mortar]

oh god but what will it look like inside lol

[naive agate]

look DK responded holy

lol

[solar sinew]

transpiled slop

[strange estuary]

btw, is this worth doing at all?

I was requested to do it by some peeps in my discord but yeah

[naive agate]

yall should get into app development

its pretty dope

[solar sinew]

nuh uh

[naive agate]

yuh

[young mortar]

depends on how well it's formatted lol

[strange estuary]

let me grab a snip

[young mortar]

like, mobile apps? cause i kinda hate all that stuff a lot

[naive agate]

yee

what do you like then?

[solar sinew]

need me a degree so i can do like... programming physics engines or sound encoders or something

[young mortar]

mostly backend

[naive agate]

You get into AI?

[solar sinew]

can't decide if wanna pursue math or cs

[young mortar]

hell no lol

[strange estuary]

this.. doesn't look good at all

[naive agate]

haha

[strange estuary]

even I find this scary

[sullen sorrel]

I can't decide between comp engineering and cs

[solar sinew]

aren't they pretty different

[young mortar]

yea lol

[naive agate]

yes

lol

2 different things

[young mortar]

cs is coding and ce is physically making computers and like electronics

[naive agate]

completely

[naive agate]

^

[sullen sorrel]

yeah

[strange estuary]

might as well just send the file, snips are gonna be annoying

[sullen sorrel]

but they're still quite related

[young mortar]

ooh that's not like... the best, but it's better than i thought it would be

[naive agate]

I wish I got into ce

[solar sinew]

yeah that's what i thought, do you have experience with ce?

[sullen sorrel]

basic
like basic arduino, robotics

[naive agate]

wouldnt even count I know basic robotics

from hs

lol

[sullen sorrel]

I'm the only one in my robotics club with past java knowledge that actually participates in the club

[solar sinew]

yeah all my experience is following tutorials when i was like 8 trying to make a radar thingy with arduino 😭

[naive agate]

you still in hs?

[sullen sorrel]

indeed

[naive agate]

damn yall still mad young

[sullen sorrel]

lol

[sullen sorrel]

🥲 🥲 🥲

[naive agate]

fuck thats bad

LOL

[strange estuary]

I guesss I'm dumb for assuming visual bukkits comments would translate into actual comments in the code

[young mortar]

yeah meanwhile i've been graduated from college for a year now lmao

[solar sinew]

i got rejected from my school's robotics club... one of the interview questions was to find a function from a set of points.. the correct answer was floor(sqrt(x))...

[strange estuary]

huh

[solar sinew]

i don't think i wanted to be there anyway 😆

[naive agate]

I would have been done yesterday but I only did 2 years

I mean

[sullen sorrel]

our robotics club is in desparate need of members so they accept whoever

[naive agate]

last year

**

lol

[lime torrent]

FIRST?

[sullen sorrel]

yes!

[lime torrent]

Fuck ya

[naive agate]

I turn 23 this year 😦

[sullen sorrel]

our robot is doomed

[solar sinew]

ours is actually really accomplished so it's harder for people 😭

[sullen sorrel]

we're using kitbot 😭 😭

[strange estuary]

You are oldddddd

[lime torrent]

Nothing new

[sullen sorrel]

and that's like it 😭 😭

[young mortar]

2002 gang lets go

[lime torrent]

If you aren’t a big team it’s bound to happen

[strange estuary]

but uh I'm getting old

[naive agate]

yessssirrrr

[strange estuary]

I'm most likely moving out within 6 months

[solar sinew]

what's the time commitment like

[naive agate]

@young mortar best of the best

[lime torrent]

I don’t even wanna know what my old teams code looks like now 😭

[strange estuary]

got some college offers 🥲

[sullen sorrel]

staying until like 6 every weekday

[solar sinew]

the one i tried to get into was saying 20 hours a week

[naive agate]

oh ye? thats good

[sullen sorrel]

or I leave at like 5

[solar sinew]

ouwch

[lime torrent]

I set them up on github and they haven’t used it since I graduated

[naive agate]

@sullen sorrel what year are you?

[sullen sorrel]

but the club leader leaves at like 7

[sullen sorrel]

11

[solar sinew]

ey we the same

[naive agate]

oh almost done

lol

[strange estuary]

yeah, I'm required to live on campus for at least the first 2 years

unexpected but interesting

[sage niche]

;\

[sullen sorrel]

:))

[naive agate]

crazy I finished highschool 5 years ago

[young mortar]

so wait you guys were born in like... 2008?

[strange estuary]

ew no

[solar sinew]

yes

[strange estuary]

2007

[naive agate]

BRO

[young mortar]

wtf lol

[strange estuary]

way better year

[naive agate]

STOp making us feel so old

[sullen sorrel]

oh ripp
how big was the club?

[lime torrent]

Not as long but ye

[naive agate]

isnt 2007 18 now?

[strange estuary]

17

[sullen sorrel]

yeah
or 2007

[strange estuary]

turning 18 in 4 months

[naive agate]

oh my

[lime torrent]

Entire school (was like, 40 of us. But all different things)

[sage niche]

qdtrftgyui

pppppppppp

[young mortar]

i know i can't believe you could be born in 2012 and be legally allowed on discord now

[naive agate]

wym

[solar sinew]

cat got your... keyboard

[lime torrent]

For me

[sullen sorrel]

40?????
we're crammed in like a tiny tiny room that's attached to my 9th grade biology room (good memories)

[naive agate]

you are lying

[young mortar]

meanwhile i was minecraft gaming, hyped for beta 1.8 (the survival update that added hunger and stuff)

[naive agate]

when did you finish?

[naive agate]

LOL

fr

[lime torrent]

Ye, innovation school. So we used all of our resources

[strange estuary]

Reminds me of when I jumped on PC, didn't read the changelog, and was terrified of seeing a guardian for the first time

that's 1.9 right?

[lime torrent]

2022

[strange estuary]

or 1.8

[naive agate]

I started with web version of minecraft

[lime torrent]

I think

Idk

[naive agate]

I finished 2020

[young mortar]

that's FULL GAME 1.9

[strange estuary]

I started with 360 edition splitscreen with my mom

[lime torrent]

I was in an early college program, so it was like a mix

[young mortar]

i'm talking BETA 1.8

[naive agate]

hahaha

[young mortar]

September 14th, 2011

[strange estuary]

I started before that, that's just my earliest memory of pc edition lol

[naive agate]

ah

[sullen sorrel]

mmmm I see
also this might be unlikely but have you used a navx2 sensor

[strange estuary]

gosh I miss tutorial worlds on xbox 360

they shouldn't have stopped that

and they should have had them on pc

[young mortar]

full game 1.9 came out february 29th, 2016 lmao

[lime torrent]

Uh, sounds familiar. Not 100% tho, why?

[naive agate]

my mcm account is about to be 10 years old

wtf

[young mortar]

i know my discord account is about to be 10 years old

[strange estuary]

your MCM account is older than 1.8.9

[young mortar]

i think may 2016 was when i made it

[naive agate]

my OG OG account was made like 2 months into Discord original beta

but I lost access

[young mortar]

damn

[naive agate]

yee

[sullen sorrel]

has issues that we can't figure out (hours of debugging...) - just frustrating
as a small team with zero funding, we can't afford to just buy like a new sensor either D: (we got grants for free tools & FRC admission)

but I was just wondering if your team also used it 🙃

[naive agate]

this is my third account

[strange estuary]

this is my second account

my first one got banned for being underage

[naive agate]

my second one got friend bombed and it wouldnt load

[strange estuary]

whoops

[naive agate]

so I had to make a new one

lol

[solar sinew]

i know this is not a revelation but tried to use the latest Claude 3.7 Sonnet (non-reasoning, bcs i'm cheap) to fix a bug... it gave me 10 nonexistent issues.

240 lines of code

[strange estuary]

I thought that version was supposed to be amazing at programming

[naive agate]

lmaooo

[strange estuary]

oof

[lime torrent]

Tbh. I think of it as coding projects outside of school. Take a big step back and look at the basics. Check wiring, make sure everything at the base is communicating as needed. If so they check programming.

[solar sinew]

maybe frontend

which is kinda expected

[naive agate]

I use Claude to help me improve my wiki

[strange estuary]

fair

[naive agate]

for my bot

lol

[solar sinew]

but it literally couldn't understand a function which was just 3 if-statements

[strange estuary]

ouch

[solar sinew]

literally just a min of 3 elements

[naive agate]

Yo I hit 6k servers using Noti 🙂

a few days ago

[strange estuary]

tech jobs live on for a little bit longer

[strange estuary]

GG

[lime torrent]

Hot, what does it do again?

[strange estuary]

Insane milestone

[naive agate]

I gotta hit 10k this year

[lime torrent]

Iirc I see you talking bout it all the time

Never looked at it properly

[naive agate]

Its a notificiation bot with a bunch of other cool features

[lime torrent]

Ah ok

[naive agate]

its in my bio

[young mortar]

mfers when they realize ai isn't real and is just guessing randomly based on inputs

god i hate ai

[solar sinew]

yeah 😭

[naive agate]

yes big

just need to get more rev

I use AI for only writing shit I never understood people making full projects with it

[solar sinew]

same, but since most of my writing is for classes it's not even good enough for that

[naive agate]

I cant even get graphics done properly with it*

[solar sinew]

it cannot go a paragraph without making a logical fallacy

[lime torrent]

Definitely cool, I wouldn’t have any real use for it tho tbh. Cool project tho

[strange estuary]

I used it for help with finishing up that plugin I showed lol

needed pointers onto how to do certain things

it was useless 9 times out of 10

[naive agate]

Do you own any communities?

[strange estuary]

still trying to figure out one more thing then it's done

[naive agate]

Discord*

[young mortar]

no way you were whipping out ai to try to help you with visual bukkit bro

that's so funny

[naive agate]

lol

[lime torrent]

Manage but ye

[strange estuary]

but most of my AI use is just for like, asking if I fulfilled school prompts

I don't use its suggestions, but yeah the unbias reader (even though its inherently bias) is nice

[strange estuary]

😭 just for the logic bits I swear

[young mortar]

yeah i mean idk maybe i'm just old school but i like actually reading and understanding what people have written for myself

[strange estuary]

I honestly just can't figure out how to detect what kind of data type a particle data needs

[solar sinew]

yeah esp when you need to debug it later on..

[young mortar]

like i fear kids are going to become actually illiterate because they rely on an ai to read everything for them

[naive agate]

We have

• Social Notifications (a bunch of MC/RP/FiveM ect servers use)
• Birthday Notifications
• About to release giveaways, starboard & sticky messages
• Working on Free Stuff (games ect) + Game Changelog Notifications

and more 🙂

[young mortar]

well i even moreso mean like actual words people write

[solar sinew]

ah i see

[young mortar]

if everybody just ai summarizes everything and then uses ai to write responses which then get ai summarized...

like human civilization is just going to collapse

[lime torrent]

Ah cool, idk what I really could use in MCHub that we don’t have a system (of some sorts) setup already. But glad to see it doing well :D

[strange estuary]

Tbh I read and tweak my stuff a lot too, I just ask AI for the reassurance that my writing fits the question

[naive agate]

tyty

[young mortar]

idk i think not having that probably makes you a better... writer? student? something

[strange estuary]

I can figure that out on my own too, probably should start not asking AI more though

[young mortar]

like i literally only used ai for the cheatiest of shit like writing biology lab reports i couldn't care less about

[naive agate]

I use AI to write me ideas, reword stuff(wiki ect) and a few other small things

[lime torrent]

Tbh, I just have it only help explain my documentation… not in me form. So most other humans can understand it 😭

[strange estuary]

could be, I feel like I've gotten better at writing since doing it, or gotten more confident in my writing language, but might not be true

[young mortar]

i litreally don't use ai for anything else now except like local line completion in IJ and it's still dogshit half the time

[strange estuary]

I haven't once used any writings AI has given me for school

it's all been my own words

[young mortar]

yeah but like even still, you're reading what it's writing and shit

[solar sinew]

yeah i see people getting these ai plugins and i was thinking about integrating smth into neovim but like, i just don't see the purpose? like i don't feel like it would ever actually get used in my workflow

[young mortar]

idk i just think it influences you still even if you don't literally use what it gives you

[strange estuary]

I ask it to not give me rewrites but yeah

[young mortar]

people not thinking for themselves and relying on machines is just a bad idea in general i think

[strange estuary]

I can see how that in general applies

it's not good long term

[young mortar]

i mean even the fact that you're just talking to a computer that doesn't actually know anything and isn't really capable of thought is probably not good lol

[naive agate]

I started but never finished working on an AI feature for Noti allowing to generate unique embed designs + messages for every notifications including thumbnails ect

[strange estuary]

true that

[young mortar]

i mean i once used it to fudge some shitty C++ algorithm for a friend and it managed to do it so like

[strange estuary]

can't argue with the para-social and lack of thinking element that applies

[solar sinew]

if the machines were accurate it'd be fine; i trust calculators pretty well for the tasks they're meant for; but LLMs are definitely not good for actual reasonin

[young mortar]

if you literally couldn't care less about the code you're writing it can be okay like 10% of the time

[solar sinew]

true but i tend to care about the code i'm writing 😆

[young mortar]

well yeah but calculators have rules and aren't "thinking" per se lol

[solar sinew]

i use it for neovim configuration sometimes

[solar sinew]

my point is trying to use a piece of tech for smth it can't do well is what is happening with AI

cause there's good stuff with it like what's going on with the protein modeling

[young mortar]

i think my point is that AI doesn't do anything well lmao

[solar sinew]

well no that's not true

[strange estuary]

I argue that heavily lol

[young mortar]

except vaguely parse tokens in my IDE and tab complete like two words 20% of the time

[solar sinew]

you need to be more specific than "AI"

[sullen sorrel]

even still
you should know your basic math, times tables, etc - not rely on calculators for those

[young mortar]

large language models are dogshit and poor facsimiles of human reason and are leading to a decline in literacy and intelligence globally

[solar sinew]

AlphaFold^ for example

there's probably more real uses

[young mortar]

oh and AI art is also real dogshit and really morally questionable

[solar sinew]

nah i disagree (about the dogshit part)

i've seen some cool ai art

[naive agate]

^

same

[solar sinew]

most ai art just looks bad

[young mortar]

most of it looks bad

and the consequences it has on real artists and human creativity cannot be understated

[lime torrent]

I use it as jokes because of that reason 😭

[naive agate]

I wish AI graphics were good for like making thumbnails for my usecase LMAO

[young mortar]

so i think we're better off just not having it at all

[lime torrent]

90% of the time you can notice it’s done with AI

[solar sinew]

i really like this for example

one of my favorite images atm

[naive agate]

yall like my skills 🙂

lol

[young mortar]

the problem is that it's soulless and also stole that style from a real person

[strange estuary]

1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 (most difficult one)
2 4 5 6 8 10 12 14 16 18 20
3 6 9 12 15 18 21 24 27 30
4 8 12 16 20 24 28 32 36 40
5 10 15 20 25 30 35 40 45 50
6 12 18 24 30 36 42 48 54 60
7 14 21 28 35 42 49 56 63 70
8 16 24 32 40 48 56 62 70 78 86
9 18 27 36 45 54 63 72 81 90 99 108

dunno why I just did a factors worksheet but good brain break

[young mortar]

idk maybe i just hold human consciousness and creativity in high regard, but for me most of the point in art is that it was made by someone for a reason and it conveys stuff

[naive agate]

should have used AI to type this out

[solar sinew]

i don't think "soul" is a real metric
"stolen" is morally questionable because yes the training data is stolen; i think that is the issue that i care about

[strange estuary]

😂

Times tables are so much fun to me

[young mortar]

"soul", as in it was not made by a human being

[naive agate]

k imma go back to watching my movie

[young mortar]

a computer crunched some numbers and did some funky math to produce pixels of a certain color

[sullen sorrel]

lol
in school not too long ago, a sophomore couldn't figure out how to do 12 * 2... :(

[solar sinew]

i don't think that really matters to me inherently

[strange estuary]

that is DEPRESSING

even I know that's 27

[lime torrent]

I had it generate some random bs image for my personal mod. I just wanted an icon for my mod instead of some default one.

[solar sinew]

):

[young mortar]

i think we have very different definitions of art and what it means in a broader sense then lol

[solar sinew]

okay this is not a good example 😭

[lime torrent]

I just found the image funny as fuck

[sullen sorrel]

uh-
yeah!

[solar sinew]

ig; i just have the philosophy that i appreciate things unless there's a good reason not to

[young mortar]

i mean to me, the point of art is that there's meaning behind it and someone specifically created it that way to evoke certain emotions and stuff in you

[lime torrent]

Like I agree with star 100%. But I really think it’s situational, based on the person and the uses of it.

[young mortar]

when a computer just randomly assembles pixels together, it can't really mean anything because there was no thought or intentionality behind it

it's like the monkey typewriter thing

if you had some monkeys in a room randomly pressing typewriter keys for eternity, eventually they would output the complete works of shakespeare

but that doesn't make it valuable, it's valuable because shakespeare himself wrote it

[strange estuary]

2 even numbers multiplying to an odd number 🙏

[solar sinew]

i don't personally hold that definition, but looking at it from your perspective i think prompting can still have that intention, just less so as it's inherently less precise

[lime torrent]

Tbh, I’ve used AI image generation for concepts for projects at work (higher ups actually encouraged it), we ended up getting it redone but a semi similar design.

[strange estuary]

I like AI art images for inspo and stuff

[lime torrent]

Ye

[strange estuary]

it's like, why would I waste time making a mockup (not that I can anyway, I suck at art) when I can just get a quick inspo shot

[young mortar]

yeah i mean it's a lot less bad for using it as like concept art/inspiration

the problem still being that it stole everything it "knows" from real people who are being materially impacted by its use

[strange estuary]

I can see that, but humans do that too

[sullen sorrel]

tbf
people also "steal" everything it knows by looking at other people's artwork

[strange estuary]

Like I based my phone wall paper and app icons on an etsy listing

[sullen sorrel]

but yeah AI is not aware of what it's doing when it does that

[strange estuary]

since I didn't wanna spend $15 lol

[young mortar]

but they're not like photocopying the entire pixel by pixel framework of the image into their brain permanently to possibly recreate lol

[strange estuary]

true

[young mortar]

the way human brains can transform input like that and then use it as inspiration to create things is very different i would say

and also like, stealing someone else's style is also morally not great lol

[strange estuary]

speaking of, updated this

🙏

[sullen sorrel]

ooo pretty cool

I feel like as an Android user, I should be customizing my stuff as well...
samsung's got a whole suite of apps designed to allow you to customize your phone, and I pretty much use 1% of the features

[strange estuary]

not a fan of every icon but making it homemade was great

[strange estuary]

yeah doing this on ios was a pain

so jealous of android for that

[sullen sorrel]

hehe >:)

[strange estuary]

but I do love the mario look

will make it look less cheap in the future

[sullen sorrel]

yeah
my sister's got a pokemon themed iphone and it's pretty neat as well

...and my phone is boring

:D

[strange estuary]

Danggg pokemon theme would be sick as well

[proper jungle]

I hate how it just ends in the middle of the screen

[sullen sorrel]

oh I didn't see that until now

[proper jungle]

but overall looks p good hahah

[strange estuary]

had to do that for the illusion

stupid ios handles it dumb

[proper jungle]

what

IOs?

[young mortar]

they heard my conversations chat

[strange estuary]

yeah apple iOS

[proper jungle]

THATS IOS?

[sullen sorrel]

also if the brown apps were on a brown background it'd prob blend in too much

[strange estuary]

YEA

[proper jungle]

since when you can do such stuff

wtf

[strange estuary]

you can't

it's janky

[proper jungle]

aha

thank you

xD

[strange estuary]

all apps are made with the shortcuts app

you make a shortcut for all your apps

[proper jungle]

aww

[strange estuary]

give the shortcut an app icon

[proper jungle]

and original icons removed

I c

[sullen sorrel]

you can even... wait for it... move apps around, leaving blank spaces now!!!! (I didn't know you couldn't do this until they announced you can)

[strange estuary]

and that's how it works

[lime torrent]

@strange estuary I forgot to ask, you bought the images for your apps?

[proper jungle]

omg

thats

apple...

xD

[strange estuary]

but also, every app icon needs to have a background colorthat matches the background

[proper jungle]

I mean I do have i16 pro

[strange estuary]

or it just looks terrible

[proper jungle]

so like am not android user

[strange estuary]

this app has a green square around it

[lime torrent]

Pro or pro max?

[strange estuary]

that matches the green semi-solid platfomr

[proper jungle]

just pro

max is too big

[lime torrent]

Rip

[strange estuary]

No, I made them all myself but based it on an etsy post

[proper jungle]

even the pro is quite big

[lime torrent]

Ah

[strange estuary]

didn't feel like spending $15 for only 10 icons

[proper jungle]

Ive had i11 pro before

[lime torrent]

Fair

[proper jungle]

and the difference is huge

[strange estuary]

which is cheap of me ik, but I really don't use many apps

[proper jungle]

am just upgrading every 5 years or so

[strange estuary]

so to get 3 versions of 720 apps that I don't use felt like a waste of money

[sullen sorrel]

although
what do you do for apps that don't have an icon skin thing?

[lime torrent]

May do something umbreon or mimikyu themed

[sullen sorrel]

that's my main opposition to switching to an icon pack

[strange estuary]

I just made all the ones I needed

[sullen sorrel]

oh

[strange estuary]

not sure I get what you mean

[proper jungle]

quite sad that you cannot change the app icon urself

I do know that apps can change their icons per user

[strange estuary]

yeah, you can't get any app notifications doing what I did

[proper jungle]

but user cant change it thru settings

[strange estuary]

but idm since it's less distracting lol