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solar sinew
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ive realized that

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to make a game

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i need to do game design

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i don't like that writing code is the easy part ):

fading grove
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I mean I think you should at least draw out some outline before you code

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I don’t think it has to be super formal or anything if you are doing it for yourself

solar sinew
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and so planning is something that is quite important

fading grove
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Is this for a company or smthing

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Or like a personal project

solar sinew
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personal project

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minecraft server

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but it really is just a game dev thing

fading grove
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You’re gonna code an mc server?

solar sinew
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not the actual server, but i'm working on a game via paper plugins

fading grove
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Ah I see

solar sinew
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i was inspired by some CTM and mmorpg servers

fading grove
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I mean honestly maybe this is just me but I just draw a couple classes on like a sheet of paper like managers, players, etc

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Do some research and find what libraries I’m gonna use

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And then just dive into it

solar sinew
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i'm working on stuff that is

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way too custom and niche

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there are no libraries for it

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i'm planning to even ditch the default player model and add custom animations to stuff like that

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i'm ditching a lot of vanilla stuff

fading grove
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I mean surely you would use libraries like resourcepack libraries, adventure, caffeine, redis, whatever

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Right

solar sinew
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true, i am not that familiar with doing a lot of "real" server work, the plugins i have worked on have been niche features

fading grove
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And also protocol lib or packet manager

solar sinew
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i dont like protocol lib

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im just working with nms

fading grove
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I don’t use it either but

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You could also use tiny protocol

solar sinew
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if i find the need i will

nova star
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you do realize they're a troll, right?

solar sinew
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i don't think the technical side will be the challenging part

solar sinew
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at least when they're being annoying

nova star
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in this case it's a bit more than annoying 👀

solar sinew
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nah it's harmless

nova star
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sigh have you actually tried DMing them

fading grove
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There’s only so much planning you can do before you have to write code. As you get further, you think of more ideas and details that may require you to revamp your code cause it’s necessary. Rewrites are pretty much needed once in a while if you want to maintain a good code base as you expand your project

solar sinew
nova star
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good

solar sinew
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i think it'll be worth it in the end

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gonna take a lot of passion and time

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and i'm still in school :>

fading grove
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I also warn you though that it is difficult to work on one project for many years

solar sinew
nova star
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I did work on the same codebase for like 2 years

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it's quite awful

solar sinew
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since all the minecraft server stuff is a lot of overhead

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Minestorm is quite a reasonable alternative, but that seems like too much work to add in features that i need

solar sinew
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then again, his girlfriend paid his bills

fading grove
solar sinew
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i have dabbled in fabric modding

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eh

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like i said, the tech side is not the hard part i think

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for me at least

fading grove
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I ran some friend smps for fun and it’s much faster with stuff like ferritecore, c2me, lithium, sodium

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And when making server side mods I don’t have to deal with Bukkit schenanigens

solar sinew
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i hope i get enough time to work on this in the coming years anyway

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gonna have to start dealing with college shenangians soon

fading grove
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Do you live in the US?

solar sinew
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yes

fading grove
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I just went through the college process lmao

solar sinew
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ah

fading grove
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Incoming freshman

solar sinew
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i'm an upcoming junior

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Highschool

fading grove
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Gl

solar sinew
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i wanna get a doctorate in computer science

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seems very interesting but parents dont support it

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and worrying about stuff like extracirriculars and all is stressful

fading grove
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Yes ofc

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I applied to 24 colleges and got rejected from 18 as a CS major

solar sinew
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if only good grades and test scores were enough for college

fading grove
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I understand you

fading grove
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And I had national EC stuff too lmao

solar sinew
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are you stopping at a bachelors?

fading grove
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35 act

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Ya

solar sinew
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sat?

fading grove
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Didn’t take it

solar sinew
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ah

eternal apex
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american college is rough man

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so easy to get into uni in australia

solar sinew
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try to study up for a master's and beyond somewhere else

fading grove
solar sinew
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i don't know, i need to do more research

fading grove
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I’m paying 60k every year to attend

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A public university too

eternal apex
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tuition as in the quality of teaching or the price

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ah price

fading grove
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Price

solar sinew
eternal apex
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yeah a bachelor of computer science costs like 25k aud

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for 3 years

fading grove
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Yeah

solar sinew
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damn

eternal apex
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and government pays that 25k for you and it just comes out of your tax when you get into a certain tax bracket

ocean wagon
fading grove
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Higher Education in the US is a business

fading grove
ocean wagon
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wtf

eternal apex
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you guys get paid more in jobs though so sorta works out

fading grove
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60k includes everything though like food and stuff

ocean wagon
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4,920,000 INR what the fuck.

solar sinew
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median us salary is 40-50k

eternal apex
vagrant pike
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Yall pay for your education?

ocean wagon
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not me.

solar sinew
eternal apex
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yeah

ocean wagon
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i use uwutube.

fading grove
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Oh yeah I meant 60k as in tuition + housing + food

eternal apex
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that's like the salary of a top end software engineer in aus

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it doesn't get much higher than that here

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and that's your average

solar sinew
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i live in the bay area so everything is more expensive here, my perception is very skewed

fading grove
solar sinew
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median salary in my area is 136k or something like that

solar sinew
fading grove
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Moving from east to west coast

solar sinew
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the nature is great here

vagrant pike
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At least where I live, if you get good enough grades in high school you have a chance to get a paid degree (by that I mean you don't have to pay a single €), you only pay for your housing and food and what not

eternal apex
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a scholarship?

solar sinew
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my mother had the same thing in russia

fading grove
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US has shit financial aid

solar sinew
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she got top scores in her school and got a free ride in university

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i dont think it's really a thing in america

vagrant pike
solar sinew
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scholarships are very rare

eternal apex
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definitely is a thing in america

solar sinew
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or well, rarer

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from what i can tell at least

fading grove
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FAFSA does offer scholarships but usually they are need based

solar sinew
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i'm not the most educated on this

eternal apex
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I think star got a scholarship for their degree

fading grove
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Colleges also give individual scholarships too

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And full rides

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But they are competitive

vague walrus
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US almost requires a scholarship if you don't want to get reemed in costs (like you already do)

ocean wagon
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tax in india has been increased as of this new India Budget
f.e. if you earn around 20 lakh INR (25,000 USD viz. a great income) you'll get something around 16 lakh INR (21,333 USD) in hand :/ and the rest of it goes to government tax

eternal apex
solar sinew
vagrant pike
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its not that hard to get free education here, but it really depends on the field. If it's a medical field you need way higher scores from final exams than, say, in IT

fading grove
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I pirated ACT tests from online so I could get a better score

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They usually take them down cause they want to earn money

solar sinew
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have you taken the PSAT at least?

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a benchmark would be useful

fading grove
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They don’t want students to do well and make them retake many times to earn money

ocean wagon
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and i've been ignored, once again 🙂

solar sinew
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i'm very confident about the math sections, same with english if i study

fading grove
fading grove
fading grove
solar sinew
fading grove
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Varies

solar sinew
fading grove
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Biology, chemistry

eternal apex
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what are they using the money for

fading grove
solar sinew
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35 is very good

fading grove
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The colleges aren’t gonna care much more after that

solar sinew
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yes

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i'm going to start doing boxing soon for a sports extracirricular soon, though moreso just cause i want to

fading grove
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Honestly do the things you want to do in high school

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Don’t do things to get into a good college

solar sinew
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i have some friends who got into berkley

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they were not very smart

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but did good extracirricular passion projects

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with robots and stuff

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my ex wanted to go into ucla, she was very stupid and thought she ever had a chance, good job

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they are good

fading grove
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But yeah it’s rough man

solar sinew
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finances?

fading grove
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That and also the application process

solar sinew
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stressful?

fading grove
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Yeah

solar sinew
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i know a dude who got into harvard, i should ask him

fading grove
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I lost my sanity writing 70 essays lmao

solar sinew
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though i dont think he likes me rn

fading grove
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Nah

solar sinew
fading grove
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You never know if their daddy donated a building

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Lmao

solar sinew
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no

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he's poor-ish

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gf's brother

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but he's also black and older

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so maybe had affirmative action on his side

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still though, smart guy

solar sinew
fading grove
solar sinew
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when did you apply to colleges?

fading grove
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depends on each college. all colleges follow different cycles but generally there is ED, EA, and RD

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and REA for some private univs

solar sinew
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funny words magic man

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what do they mean

fading grove
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ED (Early Decision) -- you can only ED one school, and if you get in, you must go (commitment is binding, you must withdraw all other college applications if you are accepted, results come out in Dec)

EA (Early Action) -- offered by many schools, allows you to apply early but commitment isn't binding (results come out in Dec/Jan)

RD (Regular Decision) -- offered by all schools, this is the regular decision process (results come out in Mar/April)

REA (Restrictive Early Action) -- offered only by some ivy leagues + Stanford. Basically, if you submit an REA application you can't apply to any other private school EA applications. If they are a public school you can EA. Commitment isn't binding, and you can apply RD applications even after an acceptance.

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--
Many schools also offer an ED1 and ED2 option. You basically apply ED (ED1) to your first school, and if you are rejected, you can apply ED to another school (ED2).

solar sinew
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thank you

solar sinew
fading grove
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many people sacrifice their whole high school just trying to get into an ivy league or whatever

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which i dont understand personally, but its just what they want to do

boreal escarp
vague walrus
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I wish the US used their tax dollars better

boreal escarp
# vagrant pike At least where I live, if you get good enough grades in high school you have a c...

Same here in Romania. Unless you go to a private school or college, it is usually free. There are some degrees that have more students and you have to pay for it if you don't have that high grades. Though I don't remember the price.. I think it is like 800-900€/year. It may not sound like a lot but if we take into consideration that the median salary is around 650€, well.. 😬 anyways, still probably cheaper than in the US shrug_animated

vague walrus
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True

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Guns at Walmart

true stirrup
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@fickle cave the tinkers like plugin looks very nice, but you should do some work on styling the lore better, i feel like u should either choose the enchantment names or the % values on the bottom ,both is too much, and overall just less color vomit etc

fickle cave
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enchantment names i think can go without

strange estuary
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boy I can't wait to spend $29,000 a year

hexed basalt
lime torrent
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Speaking of development spent the past like, 12h migrating code from 1.16 -> 1.21, never knew how much of a pain it is lol.

hexed basalt
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i migrate a code from 1.8 to 1.20.6

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(basically a rewrite)

lime torrent
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Yeahhhhh

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It’s so much fun

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Especially when you’re entire code base is basically nms

hexed basalt
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:_(

lime torrent
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Yeah

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I mean it’s good for learning, my lead dev is helping me too but I’m kinda taking charge to help me figure shit out more.

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Now MC’s code is a lot more readable compared to the past

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Where it could be this.aCf.BdH.a

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Like, make it make sense kekw

hexed basalt
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yeah

fading grove
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Stay away from that NMS nightmare if u can lol

lime torrent
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But yeah I agree kekw

fading grove
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I take the time to browse the internet and import a tiny project just so I can’t use nms lol

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But then it’s now on the other developer’s hands to update between versions

lime torrent
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Yeah

naive agate
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@carmine wyvern looks great! W tool

carmine wyvern
unreal venture
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damn, you cooked again gj @carmine wyvern aa_cat_stare

twin dune
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@real pawn Any reason why the (i assume) plugin doesn't just write to the database directly rather than h2?

real pawn
twin dune
real pawn
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Correct

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Thank goodness lol

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All of the tools and methods I found on the Internet can't handle a database of the size that I need to migrate, though, hence why I asked here.

real pawn
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It's around 600mb (if I remember correctly)

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So not super large, but too large for free tools

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And I don't know enough MySQL or H2 to create a script that manually moves the data

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(which is why I asked for someone else to do it)

twin dune
real pawn
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It's the main server plugin that runs all of our custom features, so it stores basic data such as our custom level and experience, and more advanced data such as NBT strings representing each pet in a pet menu

solar sinew
naive agate
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Love how discord gives ads in screenshares now

vagrant pike
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bruh

boreal escarp
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Lol

thin topaz
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hello

unreal venture
worldly pike
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i am telling

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prepare to be cease and desisted

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you just messed with the wrong discordian

fading grove
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Bro did u mean to send that in dms 💀

vagrant pike
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I am planning to get a small cpu upgrade, I'm giving my current i5 12400F to my wife
I am currently looking at 12600KF and 13400F
Any recommendations?

vagrant pike
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12600kf seems to have better performance, virtually at the same price as 13400f

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But not sure if 13th gen has some other stuff that I'm not aware about

frank pasture
vagrant pike
frank pasture
vagrant pike
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This specific 12600kf beats 11th gen i9 iirc

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I guess ima go with this one, hopefully not gonna regret it lol

frank pasture
vagrant pike
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Yeah this one is quite cheap tbh

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Comparing with others on the market

long summit
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Oh hey that's my cpu, 12600kf, very good price
I have never had to do anything that required anything more than an i5 tbh

naive agate
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oh hey matt

long summit
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Heyo

true stirrup
# vagrant pike

as far as i remember that website favours single threaded performance waay more than it should, saying just as a disclaimer

tacit nova
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Is that userbenchmark?

vagrant pike
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yeah

true stirrup
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Barry hates me, last two times ive sent something in showcase i didint get the +1 -1

true stirrup
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too easy

silver patrol
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hello

young mortar
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AMD is definitely the better choice right now unless you want to preserve your motherboard

vagrant pike
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as for AMD, not a big fan, I'm sure they are great, I'm just nvidia/intel fanboy

young mortar
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I still would definitely not recommend a 13 or 14 series

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it is not a good time to be an intel fanboy lol

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the pendulum has swung the other direction

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amd graphics cards are doodoo though to be fair

vagrant pike
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AMD CPU's might be OK, though I heard a decent amount of issues regarding GPU's and their drivers

young mortar
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oh yeah the gpus are trash

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but their cpus are a lot better than intel right now

vagrant pike
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:/ yeah, shucks

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might consider AMD CPU's in the future

young mortar
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and honestly have been, intel 12 series is basically the only good thing they've done since 9th gen

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yeah i mean moral of the story, if you're sticking with intel get a 12700k or something

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just do not get a 13/14 series

vagrant pike
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well good thing I cancelled my order for 13400 and went with 12600KF

young mortar
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yea fr lol

vagrant pike
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lol

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yeah google really loved my data browsing CPU's and gave me an article about 13th gen issues in my feed

young mortar
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yeah it's kind of insane honestly

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and no refunds or anything, just fuck you

vagrant pike
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as for AMD, I got so familiar with intel naming scheme, AMD makes me confused

young mortar
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it's pretty similar lol

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5600, 5700, 5800, 5900, 5950, etc.

vagrant pike
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yeaah but then I always come back comparing X intel cpu with Y amd cpu to understand the performance increase/decrase lol

young mortar
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don't use userbenchmark

vagrant pike
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I use it just for general view

young mortar
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it's not accurate

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it's heavily biased against amd

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watch like linus tech tips or gamers nexus or something for a real view

vagrant pike
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idk I go through like 5-6 other websites to make sure

young mortar
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if you're looking at anything current gen, AMD has better and more cores, with higher frequencies, and lower temps lol

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intel really needs to get their heads out of their asses

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cause let me tell you, i rocked a 6700k for the last 8 years

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and this most recent get i swapped to a 7900x, and it's been superb

vagrant pike
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yeah unfortunately nvidia took some Ls too, at least from what I've heard, regarding 4000 series

young mortar
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12/24 vs whatever weird configurations intel p/e cores are

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boosts to 5.5GHz, cool af, very nice

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so trust me when i tell you i was literally you like 2 years ago lol

solar sinew
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everyone shut up, there is a Heavenly concert near me

young mortar
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who

solar sinew
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METAL BAND

vagrant pike
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I assume a AMD alternative for 12400K would be Ryzen 5 8500G~ish?

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or am I off mark

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the base/boost clock speeds do be quite higher, not gonna lie

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tho can't really find one in my price range that would be a decent upgrade, considering I'd need to swap my mobo too

young mortar
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and AM4 mobos are cheap as fuck and you can keep your ddr4 ram

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that's what i'd recommend honestly

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for a direct comparison, i'd say like the 7600x is pretty solid

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higher boost, 6/12 cores instead of 6 & 4, lower TDP, etc.

vagrant pike
young mortar
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ah well yeah 7600x would do you very nicely

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and am5 mobos are pretty solid, plus they're going to be supported for another like 7 years or something

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so you can rest assured that you'll get an easy upgrade

true stirrup
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@fallow crow the video isint frozen atleast for me or my friend, it is a big file maybe just bad internet?

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no clue then :D

naive agate
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@fallow crow do not message inside #showcase you know the rules..

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@true stirrup cool plugin

true stirrup
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Thanks :)

long summit
naive agate
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It’s a discord client side issue

true stirrup
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It might be cause im using HVEC encoding

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but good to know it does that

sullen sorrel
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works for me on pc

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:))

vague walrus
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There's no votes

sullen sorrel
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either means Wuzzy blocked @honest thistle or ig he's just super unlucky with everything 🥲

naive agate
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uh

vague walrus
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Uh

solar sinew
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can we please get reaction permission in #showcase . I want to react with 🗑️ emoji to everyone's UI posts

vague walrus
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Never

solar sinew
vague walrus
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Doubt

solar sinew
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I'm crying rn

vague walrus
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Call me rn

solar sinew
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bawling

solar sinew
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bad connection

vague walrus
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I understand

solar sinew
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thanks

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me if u even care

trim raft
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@twin dune

solar sinew
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chat

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my girlfriend convinced me to participate in a school dance

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how did this happen

vague walrus
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amazing

solar sinew
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"the blind leading the blind discover a path unseen by those with sight, for true vision is is found not in sight, but in the courage to journey together into the unknown"

light scaffold
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true...

twin dune
twin dune
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@trim raft

solar sinew
lime torrent
hardy sleet
solar sinew
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i believe in him

boreal escarp
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Lol

solar sinew
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🙏

unreal venture
lime torrent
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Kris if you really needed me I’d help you lmao

unreal venture
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OKK nah its fine, i like suffering on my own

lime torrent
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Fair

unreal venture
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i have my own way of "working"

true stirrup
magic summit
# solar sinew $10

Speaking as someone who right now is actually getting paid $100 a month for doing simple support.... That guy believes in wonders it seems...

solar sinew
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not a lot

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at all

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so that's very reasonable

sullen sorrel
true stirrup
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gonna undo that tho, didint get any benefit from doing that cause 90% of the requests are a joke anyways

solar sinew
sturdy bobcat
solar sinew
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urge to throw barbell at my ex

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(she deserves it)

unreal venture
sturdy bobcat
solar sinew
sturdy bobcat
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more as in

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surely she doesnt

solar sinew
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she deserves to be in prison

sturdy bobcat
solar sinew
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:CattoBlush:

unreal venture
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ugh

solar sinew
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who pinged me

unreal venture
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i forgot that barry doesnt allow u to send no nitro gifs

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:/

solar sinew
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it's cause god hates you

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i think

unreal venture
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real

solar sinew
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the information was revealed to me in a dream

solar sinew
shy socket
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Hi

dire vapor
solar narwhal
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I'm assuming @dire vapor and @odd sigil are the same given their matching suffix

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@spare rock you know eveyone, who do I ping for staff stuff ^

solar sinew
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wow he caused a red number to go up by 1

wary willow
solar sinew
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off with his HEAD

solar narwhal
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Weird to see someone defending spammers THONK

solar sinew
solar narwhal
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Never said I was annoyed, I just witnessed them ghost-ping a half dozen people, and so reported a spammer

solar sinew
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ok

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:Kirby:

foggy edge
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Did anyone else get a bunch of dms from someone saying Heey ?

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Was it a part of the spam bots from earlier

wary willow
foggy edge
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I got the names if you want them ?

true stirrup
bleak crest
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Does someone know about the superiorskyblock2 plugin that can help me with something

frank pasture
solar sinew
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gg

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kosa bill got passed in Senate, soon minors might just straight up not have any Internet privacy at all from their parents

full atlas
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You realize you need parents permission to use the internet until 18 right?

unreal venture
solar sinew
full atlas
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Also look up "coopa act" or something like that. All countries have their equivalent.

true stirrup
solar sinew
solar sinew
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"COPPA establishes strict guidelines to protect the online privacy of children under 13"

magic summit
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I laughed at this

solar sinew
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lmfao

fallow crow
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hey can i make an account on ecloud

solar sinew
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can you

unreal venture
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and then contanct one of the admins

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(funnycube)

fallow crow
unreal venture
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idk, discord?

solar sinew
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duh

unreal venture
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OKK that, sounds like an option too ig

solar sinew
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kids these days are so lazy

unreal venture
vague walrus
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I don't think it's weird to consider there might be a ticket system, or some email to use.

unreal venture
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or just ping him here, thats a solution too

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idk if his dms are on

solar sinew
unreal venture
unreal venture
solar sinew
noble trout
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@fallow crow Damn, was tryna help right after you blocked me for no reason, crazy shit

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I hope the bot keeps erasing your messages ig

vague walrus
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Damn that's crazy @noble trout

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Alexa play depacito

solar sinew
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talked to a dude who got a full ride into cornell

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from a little ukranian village

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his ec's including saving his village from flooding among all the regular ivy league shit

#

comparing yourself to people is not the way to happiness i've decided

full maple
#

Blud never gonna make something again 😂

solar sinew
#

😭

#

comparison is the thief of joy

magic hound
#

bro almost forgot his discord account and got a 99+ 💀

vague walrus
#

Its not even that bad, it just looks like minimal effort

unreal venture
long summit
#

Same, that's why I prefer to not vote if it's just "eh" and only downvote when it's genuinely bad

unreal venture
#

at least they r trying

worldly pike
#

Bros think they opinion matters 😭😭🙏

unreal venture
#

unless they r not guns

worldly pike
#

nooooo why

#

is it cause im gay?

#

you homophobe

unreal venture
worldly pike
#

that dont mean no

#

wow

#

its 2021

#

how are you still homophobic

unreal venture
#

?

#

it's 2024

worldly pike
#

nuh uh

#

according to the north korean calender i think its like the year 81

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or something

#

113

unreal venture
#

:/ r u in North Korea tho? no, cause you talk on discord right now

worldly pike
#

how do you know im not in north korea

#

you think koreans are so uncivilised they dont have the internet to use discord?

#

wow so your homophobic and racist

#

i like you

unreal venture
#

don't they have their own internet?

#

and browsing app

worldly pike
#

would hoped you knew better

unreal venture
#

💀 oke enough, bye

worldly pike
#

bye racist homophobe

unreal venture
worldly pike
#

because ur heartless

#

u like saying koreans dont have internet

#

or cant use our internet

#

segregation is a thing of the past my guy

unreal venture
#

😭 bro we talking about north korea

worldly pike
#

my pronouns arent we

#

its xer/xey

#

@unreal venture why are you greek

unreal venture
noble trout
worldly pike
unreal venture
#

for sure

worldly pike
#

10 being very

unreal venture
#

at least i am in a democratic country

noble trout
#

I'm the master of the craft, if you will

unreal venture
#

and in the EU

worldly pike
noble trout
#

I've answered your question

worldly pike
#

not a number

#

i need a number

twin dune
worldly pike
#

thought that said nintendo

#

i got scared

unreal venture
#

nitrado still exists? 💀

#

who even uses em for minecraft

#

aren't they still overpriced af?

worldly pike
#

yeah i checked their prices

#

£500 for 9gb ram

#

and 22 player slots

#

2gb ram (OF WHICH THEY DONT EVEN SPECIFY), $16.19 and only 10 player slots and ofc no cpu specification

true stirrup
#

deal!

unreal venture
#

yeah they r crazy w their prices

true stirrup
#

i mean seems like they are still making money

#

which is sad

unreal venture
#

from other games too ig

#

it's not only for minecraft

worldly pike
#

$40.39 for 30 days 20 slots and 5gb ram

we dont even know if this ram is good

true stirrup
#

caring abt ram speed is the last thing i would do when u dont even know if they are giving u a 2013 xeon

worldly pike
#

we dont even know what cpu

#

and arguably speaking cpu is more important

unreal venture
worldly pike
#

i do the british way and i just colonise other peoples PCs by installing a RAT on them

#

obvious joke ^

#

be me
haker
hak into government pc
make screen black with green text saying "GEKOLONISEERD"
leave

true stirrup
worldly pike
#

very true

#

i colonise other PCs

magic summit
worldly pike
#

isnt multicraft open source?

worldly pike
#

ignore what i said

#

if multicraft gets fucked by nitrado then i believe pterodactyl will just become the default pick

vague walrus
#

multicraft is already bad

young mortar
#

yeah i was gonna say lol, Pterodactyl is already a lot better than Multicraft in my experience

vague walrus
#

I love

/list
/list```
spamming the logs
vagrant pike
#

💀

ocean wagon
worldly pike
#

to me it depends what race they are asking

#

😈 😈 😈 😈

#

like a true discordian

magic summit
#

Like a server host that charges based on max players on the server rather than ram (like every other host).... that can't be a good host.

worldly pike
#

"the ocean is a soup!! its water with vegetables!!"

mentally-challenged individuals:

light scaffold
#

huh

worldly pike
#

making fun of people with dogshit humour like "the ocean is a soup"

#

i was in college the other month right, and we were having a discussion on philosophy, so one clown whos like 18 started going the ocean is a soup and the idiot was laughing at his own joke

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and im just thinking like your 18 grow up

solar sinew
worldly pike
#

if the ocean being a soup is funny to you then im grateful i aint you

solar sinew
worldly pike
#

likewise

solar sinew
#

not the other guy funny

worldly pike
#

no but you implied it was funny

solar sinew
#

nope

worldly pike
#

"being funnier" im sure an 18 year old with a 14 year olds humour is real funny

solar sinew
#

that's your personal interpretation

solar sinew
worldly pike
#

"for being funnier than you" this is implying it was funny

worldly pike
#

also, you dont know my sense of humour

solar sinew
worldly pike
#

you arent my target audience

solar sinew
worldly pike
#

you aint my target audience

solar sinew
#

hitler has a target audience

worldly pike
#

no but it means my humour isnt directed to you

#

ok? and?

worldly pike
#

hitler has a target audience? cool? amazing?

#

so does every comedian in the world

#

james cordon has a target audience

solar sinew
#

shitting on others for having a sense of humor is stupid

#

even if their sense of humor is stupid

worldly pike
#

isnt that hypocritical of you

solar sinew
#

cause what's wrong with being stupid

solar sinew
worldly pike
#

its still hypocritical

solar sinew
#

yes

worldly pike
#

so im not really gonna take you seriously

solar sinew
#

you're the one being rude abt people who are happier than you it seems

worldly pike
#

uhhhhhh because im commenting how an 18 year old is acting like a kid?

solar sinew
#

yea

worldly pike
#

right

solar sinew
#

whats wrong with acting like a kid sometimes

#

getting deja vu

worldly pike
#

do you mean nostalgia?

#

idiot

solar sinew
#

no

#

deja vu

#

cause we've had this conversation before

worldly pike
#

deja vu is when you have the thought you have been in a similar situation or place

worldly pike
#

thats not deja vu

#

deja vu is the thought

solar sinew
#

that's not nostalgia either

worldly pike
#

we have had this conversation before

worldly pike
#

wasnt saying it was

solar sinew
#

ok

worldly pike
#

deja vu: "the feeling that you have already experienced something that is actually happening for the first time."

#

learn what phrases mean

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lol

solar sinew
#

i have bigger muscles than you

worldly pike
#

bro is on his andrew tate arc

#

this is why i dont take you seriously

solar sinew
worldly pike
#

maybe think like him

#

rn you reason with man children

solar sinew
worldly pike
#

so he didnt win he just figured he cant win so he got insecure and did the whole "YEAH WELL IM STRONGER!!"

#

might doesnt make right

solar sinew
worldly pike
#

its being childish

solar sinew
solar sinew
worldly pike
#

yes? and by you doing "my muscles are bigger than yours", objectively you are just as childish

worldly pike
solar sinew
worldly pike
#

because if your an adult, act like it

solar sinew
solar sinew
worldly pike
worldly pike
solar sinew
worldly pike
solar sinew
solar sinew
worldly pike
solar sinew
worldly pike
#

no one does but its common consensus

solar sinew
worldly pike
#

adults dont act like kids

worldly pike
#

yikes

solar sinew
worldly pike
#

and most likely it was done within context

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or done within something else

sullen sorrel
#

🥒

solar sinew
worldly pike
#

again, example?

solar sinew
#

there's a video of it I don't remember who it was

#

lots of people laugh at stupid things

worldly pike
#

so im not gonna take what your saying seriously if your not providing an example

solar sinew
worldly pike
#

define mundane

solar sinew
#

the ocean being a soup

#

you could easily turn that into a fun debate between friends

worldly pike
#

the thing is though im not saying be stoic with humour, just dont be childish

solar sinew
#

why not

#

you just inherently don't like adults acting childish?

worldly pike
#

because its childish im really confused how your just choosing not to listen to specific words

worldly pike
solar sinew
#

well not everyone relates to you

worldly pike
#

no shit

solar sinew
#

and you can't seem to explain a deeper reason

worldly pike
worldly pike
solar sinew
worldly pike
#

being childish as an adult is wrong my reasoning

worldly pike
solar sinew
worldly pike
#

and you dont want to concede so you just over examine

worldly pike
#

again you only prove me right

solar sinew
#

where

#

haven't seen a single non circular argument

worldly pike
#

maybe the times where ive said adults should act like adults

worldly pike
#

your making it circular

worldly pike
#

your making it circular

#

ive said why

#

you dont like to listen

solar sinew
#

where

worldly pike
#

so you just repeat the same questions

worldly pike
solar sinew
#

please do

#

I'm on a plane to Hawaii RN I have a lot of time

sullen sorrel
#

nice

solar sinew
worldly pike
# worldly pike its being childish

here for example, my reasoning doesnt need to be any deeper this as itself is a base, i already know your gonna treat this sentance as chinese and refuse to read it however im still gonna explain

progress to being an adult naturally is maturing both physically and mentally, refusing to no longer be attached to a childish mindset literally prohibits you from progressing to being an adult, why? why do you think, for starters as a kid you are less informed about you as a person, you have a less developed mindset, this is why kids find things like "fart jokes" as humourous, they are kids.

progressing to be an adult requires you to mature mentally and progress past the state of thinking like a kid, if you wanna be stuck in that position, go ahead. i already know this will be treated as literal chinese to you but whatever

#

cant wait for the "BUT WHY CHILDISH BAD" response cause hes a broken record and just repeats himself

solar sinew
#

okay let me rephrase

#

how do you decide if something is bad?

worldly pike
#

define in what context

#

humour? maturity?

solar sinew
worldly pike
#

you cant be that vague

solar sinew
#

how do you figure out whether any given action or adjective disagrees with your morals or values

worldly pike
#

again in what context

solar sinew
#

if A did action B, how do you figure out if B is morally wrong?

worldly pike
#

morals are subjective to an individual so again, what context

solar sinew
#

I'm looking for an answer something like this "well I'm a utilitarian so I figure out if it harms or helps society and make a decision off of that"

#

what is your plan for a thought process

worldly pike
#

im starting to think all you do is look for an answer you like so you just repeat the same question

#

however again, your being vague

#

i might think morally something is wrong but in terms of the 1st amendment i dont go against it

solar sinew
worldly pike
#

you being vague just makes me not wanna answer

#

¯_(ツ)_/¯

solar sinew
#

?

worldly pike
#

no because im not gonna sit here and just have you go off on interpretation

solar sinew
worldly pike
worldly pike
solar sinew
solar sinew
#

how do you figure out if it's morally wrong

#

that's what I'm asking

#

there are different ways to go about it

#

different ideologies to follow

worldly pike
#

many reasons, i.e religion, cultural standards and what environment i was raised in

solar sinew
#

yea that's a good answer

worldly pike
#

no shit because its literally what everyone goes off from....

worldly pike
solar sinew
worldly pike
#

such as

solar sinew
#

there is a difference between following a rule book and figuring out what rules make sense to you

worldly pike
#

such as

solar sinew
#

assuming it is

worldly pike
#

10 commandments

#

one of them being thou shall not kill

solar sinew
#

yea so you're following a rule book

worldly pike
#

but thats not the only place i get "murder is bad" from

solar sinew
#

a utilitarian might say "cause it harms society to lose person X"

worldly pike
#

or maybe people can get multiple ideals from different areas

#

i.e law, natural or religion

#

environmental

#

the law says murder is bad and so does your instincts

#

naturally when humans kill other humans they occasional can feel guilt

#

and attain ptsd from it

solar sinew
#

from a utilitarian pov especially

worldly pike
#

well yeah because in some circumstances it is

#

i.e someone trespasses on your property and could cause harm

#

you have a right to self defence

#

again you get morals from different places

worldly pike
#

specifically castle doctrine 1985

#

and penal code section 9.32

#

however there are some laws i also dont get morals from, i.e panic defense laws in texas

#

i stay strapped for jesus tho

trim raft
twin dune
worldly pike
#

it wont

#

unless they open source it

#

then sure why not

#

but i unironically think multicrafts only saving grace is open sourcing cause rn its just gonna be fully replaced by pterodactyl

naive agate
frank pasture
naive agate
frank pasture
naive agate
naive agate
vagrant pike
#

that should be a default

sullen sorrel
#

eh

#

i want to move to win11 but I'm just worried that something will break

naive agate
#

ya same

sullen sorrel
#

even though I heard the chances of that is really small

naive agate
#

ill wait till my next factory reset

sullen sorrel
#

oh do you do like an annual factory reset?

naive agate
#

yes

naive agate
#

been waiting for it for a minute

worldly pike
#

remember, if u dont have a dashcam, buy one

naive agate
#

or two

worldly pike
#

u'd probably only need one

#

id recommend a two view one, one to view the front and the behind

naive agate
#

ill need to look into it

worldly pike
#

ye, u never know what idiot might be on the road ready to raise ur insurance

naive agate
#

yaa

vagrant pike
vagrant pike
#

and most of them are hit or miss or just hot garbage

worldly pike
vagrant pike
#

are car insurances that high in murrica lmao

worldly pike
#

idk by i think the standard is 20-50% increase

#

i never owned a car nor drived

#

but would u really prefer a one time purchase or a monthly cost that adds up to thousands

vagrant pike
#

well I had a couple of small car accidents

#

and my insurance is 160 euros for a whole year lol

worldly pike
#

not what i asked so i can make the question simpler

safe or sorry

vagrant pike
#

yea yeah, I got the idea

worldly pike
#

btw guys is a 1:217 earth map a bit too big for a mc server?

#

i plan on adding stuff like movecraft so people can make ships and trains n shit

#

and aircraft

long summit
worldly pike
#

i want to make my windows look like windows 7

#

i like windows 7

dusky summit
#

maybe not since it came out but certainly for a long time now

true stirrup
#

normies

#

dont get that u gotta hate just to hate

true stirrup
#

also i feel like is a tad big, depends on how many players tho

#

oh it has bases, thought was an empty map

worldly pike
true stirrup
#

but 200k wide is a bit wild

worldly pike
true stirrup
#

unless like tp's etc i think its too much empty space

#

and if u plan on going heavy on geopolitics

#

unless a massive player base cant imagine much neibhouring going on

#

but talking off the top of my head

#

might be wrong, been a while since i ran a earth server

worldly pike
#

nah u arent wrong

#

maybe 1:217 is a bit too big

worldly pike
worldly pike
#

the only thing id allow is tp to town at peace and having it cost gold

#

cause if not then it just results in one town in, say hawaii attacking a town in japan and all of them just tp'ing to some town in china

#

and if they die it doesnt matter they just re tp

true stirrup
#

i guess

solar sinew
true stirrup
#

either way i think u should do lower to start with and grow it with seasons, as u grow ur playerbase

solar sinew
#

how would you grow a world map

#

ah you said seasons nvm

true stirrup
#

depends on if u wanna go on the never resets stance

analog marlin
#

i say 200k is fine

#

storage is cheap

true stirrup
#

not really what the debate is abt but sure

worldly pike
worldly pike
#

i got like £45,000 in the bank (obv not all for the server

#

45,000 in the bank, another like 12,000 in stocks

solar sinew
worldly pike
#

i live in the uk so

#

i get that for free

#

also 45,000 in the bank at 17 is still pretty good

unreal venture
worldly pike
#

because america isnt the uk

#

it isnt the same society nor culture

sullen sorrel
#

america has free colleges as well

sullen sorrel
worldly pike
sullen sorrel
#

i feel like every state has at least one

worldly pike
#

in america free college isnt federally enforced

worldly pike
sullen sorrel
#

ok

worldly pike
#

it depends on what state ur on on availability

#

and whether its good

worldly pike
#

if your over 18 yeah

#

if your over 18 you pay for college if your 16 - 18 you get it free

sullen sorrel
#

oh wait does uk have that college vs uni difference thing

worldly pike
#

yeah

sullen sorrel
#

oh

worldly pike
#

college is free 16-18 and university is usually next

sullen sorrel
#

ok I mean uni

#

idk what the college is in uk

worldly pike
#

yeah im doing university aswell

worldly pike
#

its sorta like american six form

sullen sorrel
#

🥲

worldly pike
#

ah

#

its extended education basically

#

you can avoid college by joining the military or getting an apprenticeship

sullen sorrel
#

18 year olds are typically either at their last year of high school or first year of college/university for reference

sullen sorrel
worldly pike
#

ima go to university aswell though ill be applying for a student loan to do that

#

idk how it works in america but here student debt is pretty much the best kind of debt you can have

sullen sorrel
#

im in HS so i have no clue how student debt works here

worldly pike
#

you dont pay it back until you make a certain amount and even then you pay back very little

sullen sorrel
#

or anywhere

#

🥲

worldly pike
#

the £45,000 or so i have rn im saving up for when i move to texas

sullen sorrel
#

yeah maybe I'm not the best person to talk to about universities and colleges

sullen sorrel
#

when u planning to move?

worldly pike
#

as soon as im able to get into the american navy or texan army

#

specifically im gonna try get into the cyber security branch

#

america has really good veterans benefits

sullen sorrel
worldly pike
#

im joining the british navy first

#

so who knows

#

britain and america are very close allies so i have a good shot

sullen sorrel
#

U.S. citizens and some non-citizens can join the military. If you are not a U.S. citizen, you must: Have a U.S. Permanent Resident Card (Green Card) Speak, read, and write English fluently.
🤷 I guess it'd work

worldly pike
#

there would be no reason for me to not get a green card

#

no criminal record, university degree

#

and former military service

sullen sorrel
#

|| and since I was born here idk how green cards work lol ||

sullen sorrel
#

:))

worldly pike
true stirrup
#

@worldly pike how do u plan to advertize

worldly pike
#

i.e it allows u to live and work in america

sullen sorrel
#

I just heard that it's sometimes difficult to get one

worldly pike
#

tik tok and discord pings

worldly pike
sullen sorrel
#

ah

true stirrup
#

paying ppl to make tiktoks or just for exposure?

worldly pike
#

like im not skilled in video editing

#

so id just pay someone who is

#

and knows what they are doing

#

or id just pay like a tik tok content creator to shout out the server

true stirrup
#

might try that too

worldly pike
#

alot of them get like 90k views a vid and they are kids so u just give them like $20 and boom ur video could get like upwards of 60k views

#

only concern is as its tik tok like 99% of watchers are on mobile

#

so its uncertain how many play java

#

and cause of my resource pack being pretty much incompatible with bedrock, my server is java only

true stirrup
#

yea same deal here

#

i feel like personally atleast i kinda cripple myself by not doing geyser

#

bedrock is the biggest platform now, or so ive heard

worldly pike
#

it is cause of how many devices it support and how many people dont have PCs

#

and how cheaper it is compared to java

#

mobile minecraft is like £5 and java is like £26 iirc