#Empyrean - Envelopments blocking deathblossom's line of sight (and thus disabling DB)

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glass torrent
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The less fun stuff of the patch SadRat

When fighting many of the Empyrean AI, they will often use envelopment superitems that allow them to mitigate incredible amounts of damage.

With how current deathblossom works, DB won't shoot at a target it does not have a direct path from the DBing ship's firing port to the target (or line of sight, for lack of a better word) - whether it's a solar body, another hostile target, or an envelopment.

Estelles have TWO envelopment supers, Ascensions deploy drones that apply envelopments to heal targets, Celestes have envelopment supers, the Apex, Saros, and Aelia fleet bosses all use envelopments. The only Empyreal AI that don't make use of envelopments are the two capships and the two light fighters.

Because of this, there is often a time where a gunner that coordinates a Perilous Burst/Perilous Scope/Fleet Commander damage aura amp and whips out the mining beam/hermes fire maker burst will... literally shoot nothing, because every possible deathblossom target has as envelopment active and becomes an invalid DB target. It doesn't happen all the time, but when it does, it's pretty frustrating.

I don't know if this falls within the scope of Empyrean zone or DB design, and I'm not really sure how this interaction can be addressed that isn't a potentially shortsighted change, but I figured I'd at least bring this up. Bubbles are not fun for gunners in PvE D:

tidal creek
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This is intended behavior for DB to be blocked by Envelopments and the old DB did same thing.

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We are changing DB to fire main weapon normally if there's no appropriate target for DB to work on.

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That ideally will be coming with a patch within a week.

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It also will indirectly make torches work as well while you have it equipped if you're not fighting as a bonus.

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Tho in combat using a torch will still require unequipping the DB/targeting comptuer

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This should help with the lack of "feedback" users feel when nothing happens sometimes as it'll just fire normally as if unequipped

glass torrent
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Maybe it is just a feedback/perception thing

tidal creek
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Yeah I think firing main weapon when no valid targets will feel a ton better. It is currently on test if you want to provide any thoughts but you by no means are required to.

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As sometimes you want fire at cloaked objects

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Or predict a route an ai is taking

minor rover
tidal creek
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Envelopements arent targetable.

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You can't select them

minor rover
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oh. Sorry, I'm ancient

tidal creek
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It's okay I had same Mandela effect thought from time to time

minor rover
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shakes cane I remember when you could target envelopments! You could hit them with ZHTs and knock them away from the target!

tidal creek
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Yeah they used to be not attached to the user

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And just float

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Now they physically are attached