unteam ai bases with guards that are auto aggro

[coarse rover]

yet again, another newbie caught in the aggro trap. if we just unteam the ai bases and leave the teamed ai aggro, its fine. in any zone before these, if you get shot, you shoot back. thats normal. in these zones, if you (or your bots/drones) shoot back, you can't progress without killing yourself and towing to sol repeatedly due to aggro memes.

ones i can think of:
nihilite, underworld, hyper
prism
bipolar

and im sure there's more. pls save the newbies

[mental sail]

I personally don't see it as a problem. Yeah, it's frustrating, but it also teaches players to be mindful of their combat assets, and to be careful what they poke

[coarse rover]

except the game doesn't teach you how aggro works

so its just a brick wall of progression for most newbies who play this game

it serves no purpose

[fossil veldt]

Serves purpose just the solution just isn't ideal.

Elite dangerous has similar mechanics but just a way to pay off your fine. We have a similar-like system queued in our backlog but we've been pressed on other systems.

[coarse rover]

unteam :riot

[lofty pawn]

I fully concur with lemon here, if this was intended as a teaching mechanism it is horribly executed.

I would like to strongly advise that if agro mechanics are supposed to be learned in relation to this a level be added to nexus where you are specifically told you have to sneak into the base. Possibly adding cloaking skill to the nexus area and explaining cloaking / radar mechanics in the process.

[chilly abyss]

^

[mental sail]

Issue here is that it doesn't really become relevant until you have Remote Control or Drone Deployment.

[lofty pawn]

I beg to differ, i have watched dozens of new players complain over the years becouse they shot back at the agro pax ship in prism and got locked out of the base.

[mental sail]

I meant that as a feature in nexus, you don't get rc or dd

[lofty pawn]

I agree you do not get them there, but it is not relevant to the probem. Most games do not have npc shops or npc quest givers teamed with hostile AI, so new players will be in the habit of ganking anything that opens up on them. This will be a wholey new concept to many players and should be specifically introduced in nexus becouse of that.

[mental sail]

A lot of games do have hostile factions with shops & quest givers, but usually it's a bit later through the game and you have to win over the faction before you can do so.

But yeah, probably should be something to add