the-future

[solar crown]

hype buildup

(also, expect the release date to be delayed too when it gets revealed)

[mint plinth]

they will not get a release date till 5-7 months till release. So next summer ... maybe

[inland rose]

They’ve waited to long

Most people have forgotten about doom at this point

[foggy seal]

nice try, unfortunately time gap between 3 and 2016

[mint plinth]

those were the id dark years ... the id dark ages

[foggy seal]

point is doom phased out of existence for 12 years and look where are we now

[elder viper]

Not really

[inland rose]

You can’t compare the timeline between doom 3 and 2016 with eternal an this next game rofl

[elder viper]

Why not lol? It’s been 4 years since Eternal which you say people are forgetting Doom when it was 12 years between Doom 3 and 2016 and no one clearly forgot about Doom

[winter nexus]

Doom Eternal had mechs, I assumed that they were saving them for the following game, rather than taking such a huge leap.

Well we were fortunate enough to have a QuakeCon here in London, but the queues to play Doom Eternal were like eight hours long.

[winter nexus]

I mean we weren't getting any new content, but the modding community was still very active and it's probably partially thanks to them for keeping Doom alive that we received future content.

[mint plinth]

im talking about QC2018 - that one had the big reveal. 2019 had mars core demo

as far as the demo goes, i played it 9 times hahahha

as some of those games were afterhours. The guy working there just let me go at it

[winter nexus]

Yeah, I see id as a pioneering brand and would rather them continue to work on their legacy IPs, than to try to do something new, like they did with Rage.

[mint plinth]

I hope Rage 3 happens, but compared to the other iD shooters like Quake, Wolfenstein and Hexen, it is probalby my least favorite.

[elder viper]

Wouldn’t Hexen be a Raven shooter instead? I know it uses idTech but that wouldn’t make it an id game would it?

Just like how any game made in Unreal isn’t an Epic game

[mint plinth]

iD was very involved with Hexen, and yes published it. Adopted child of iD

iD was also involved with Rage 2 even if it was made by avalance (RIP)

[atomic compass]

wouldn't quake 4 be a raven shooter instead

factually that's correct but quake 4 is part of the official series

[ebon moat]

Was kidding with this btw. I have no idea how good the next DOOM will be lol

[mint plinth]

it will be three times better

than ur fav doom game

[frosty veldt]

U r right

[winter nexus]

The fact that it's called Dark Ages is slightly worrying since I was hoping to see more involvement with the mechs, maybe even piloting one against the titans.

[atomic compass]

that's not an immediate sign that we won't see that, however

Doom is sci-fi, and even perhaps in this new installment it will feature fantasy elements, which means anything can happen

again, we don't know, though

[solar crown]

I'd be argentan dark ages i assume

[winter nexus]

Yes but the term dark age suggests that it will happen during a period of decline in science and technology. However that's not to say that there won't be flashbacks etc.

[winter nexus]

Then we'll probably be running around with pitchforks and slingshots.

Such is the future.

[mint plinth]

More lke super shotguns, melee hammers/crucibles like we see in Eternal, Ballista, Maykr Guns, maybe even nail guns or Sentinel tech versions of plasma rifle and machine guns

[foggy seal]

sounds quite plausible

[mint plinth]

expect a whole lot more sci fi fantasy and religious dogma

[winter nexus]

I'm honestly expecting it to be more magic than tech. Or like occult mystical weaponry, like the soulcube and the thing from RoE.

[sly dagger]

Wasn't Amid Evil essentially a more current take on Hexen and Heretic?

That was fine

[foggy seal]

it's more or less exploring whole magic based fps concept like they did, gameplay wise feels closer to quake

[winter nexus]

Yeah, there have been a few similar games and mods that were inspired by Heretic and Hexen.

[ebon moat]

What's y'all Doom game ranking?

I'd say:

2016 > 64 = Doom II > Eternal > Resurrection of Evil > 1993 > 3

For now, but it changes a lot and pretty frequently

All of them are good games though

[winter nexus]

All of them the same, I don't keep favourites, that's like asking me to rate my children.

[ebon moat]

Nice

[woven siren]

you forgot final

[ebon moat]

I kinda count that as Doom II

[woven siren]

then why is resurrection of evil there lmao

final has twice as much content as doom 2 and has slight engine differences

doom 2 demos won't be accurate on final doom demos and vice versa

[ebon moat]

I mean that it's equal with 64 and II.

[woven siren]

oh

[winter nexus]

I count both Ultimate Doom and Doom 2 together as Classic Doom and I can load either and play exactly the same mods for PS4. I also count Doom 3 and RoE together.

[inland rose]

It’s interesting that they haven’t announced a release date yet

[solar crown]

That's... what the showcase is for

[inland rose]

Yeah I know, I’m saying it should have happens already

They need to tell us when the game is coming out

[atomic compass]

then what was the point of the message prior

[winter nexus]

Why should it have happened already? They decide a date and place for the reveal, usually at a particular showcase and then they tell people, not just as soon as they know themselves because things change.

[inland rose]

I’m just saying the last game came out years ago. People want to play the next game and we’ve been waiting a long time

[atomic compass]

patience

just go do something else in the meantime, dunno about you but I've got hundreds

[hexed falcon]

bruh its been four years we've had much longer

[atomic compass]

for example #doom-2016

That took nearly 10 YEARS to make because of the shift between Doom 4 to Doom 2016

which luckily we got Doom 2016

[sly dagger]

They had to scrap a good chunk of that Call of Doom style just to make it match better with the classics

[feral plover]

god i love fentanyl

[elder viper]

It’s literally been about the same amount of time as 2016 between eternal was calm down

[elder viper]

That old development footage is so interesting though. Seeing animations and models we got in the final product in an entirely different environment is really cool

[foggy seal]

Doom 4 environment concepts look so cool , and a lot of stuff from it was later repurposed in both recent games

[solar crown]

i wouldn't expect the game to come within a year so it would be atleast 20% longer

[mint plinth]

Classic > Eternal > 2016 > 64 = Doom 3. I need to play more 64 to have a better opinion

[ebon moat]

We're both Cacos, but our lists are so different lol

[solar crown]

honestly i'd not even compare nudoom to classic doom, they're completely different types of games

[mint plinth]

Purple caco is omega

[ebon moat]

It's all about preference.

I think you can easily prefer Classic or Nu DOOM depending on what type of game you prefer

For me they're kinda equal I guess, since 2016 is my favorite, but I prefer 64 and II over Eternal

[solar crown]

well yeah but i see it akin to comparing ultrakill and COD
sure they're both fps, but that is kind of where it ends

[ebon moat]

I mean sure, but I still would easily prefer something like Ultrakill over CoD.

I also don't like CoD

[ebon moat]

We both omega homie

[solar crown]

ok, but are you atleast getting the point that they kind of play too dissimilar to really make a tierlist

it's like putting lettuce in your fruit tierlist

[ebon moat]

shrugs people do tier lists of series all the time. Despite how much they changed.

Mario and Zelda has so many extremely different styled games and people still make tier lists of them.

Mario Galaxy is very different from Super Mario World.

... and Breath of the Wild is very different from Ocarina of Time

[solar crown]

those also have different games and are meant to be for wide spectrum tierlisting though i'd still say it's kinda dumb unless you're looking at it from a general design perspective

if you're bundling the doom's together solely for name.... yeah

[ebon moat]

But if you want to separate Breath of the Wild and Tears of the Kingdom from classic Zelda in a favorite Zelda tier list, then you can go ahead

But favorite tier lists exist for a reason haha

Hell a lot of people say 2016 and Eternal shouldn't even be compared to each other because of how radically different they are.

Hugo Martin even said something like that.

But we all still do it with Eternal and 2016

[solar crown]

yeah no 2016 and eternal definitely are similar enough despite having different design goals

[ebon moat]

Ehhh

[mint plinth]

two more days till showcase. two more days till we start nerding out over lore and anticipation.

Every insider has confirmed a new Doom game being shown at this point. That pretty much makes it 99% chance of seeing it

[elder viper]

Mighty Doom 2

[mint plinth]

woudnt that be terrible lol

[hollow portal]

how are we supposed to talk about the coming Dark Ages reveal if we cant upload images of it?

will a channel be created before the event?

will we be forced to talk like "what is the thing on top right at 0.15s of reveal?"

"no guys im talking about the red thing not the blue thing"

[mint plinth]

not officially announced, will not see anything until then unless it gets leaked.

closer we get though, allegedly there is art out in the wild, we might see something before the showcase

[hollow portal]

the showcase that starts in less than 48h

[vernal shell]

are we expecting a sequel, a reboot or a spin-off?

[vernal shell]

that's an option too lol

[hollow portal]

rumor is an hexen reboot with a doom name connecting doom to quake1

[vernal shell]

cool, we'll see

[hollow portal]

it makes little sense to be honest, hexen never was a big name, from leveldesign to enemies and weapons nothing was as good as quake or doom

a doom more focused on melee and magic spell?

lel

[winter nexus]

Could be. 😉

But it's also possible that there's nothing new and it's all based on some provocative blogger trying to bait people, which has been going on since the dust settled after the release of Doom Eternal.

[vernal shell]

a new doom = Silksong

[winter nexus]

you mean the knight game?

[vernal shell]

yeah, but im exagerating, hollow knight fans have been waiting for silksong since 2019 while the last doom was released last year

if you count mighty doom as one

[winter nexus]

Hmm

Never played HK.

I mean id Software is a business, so they must be working on something, but it's possible that the bloggers claiming that they have leaks from insiders is bait.

And that the announcement or reveal is taking place tomorrow is just provocation.

[vernal shell]

i have but i didn't beat it cus i added more games to my library, and HK being a metroidvania didn't helped cause those games require you to dedicate a lot of time learning how it works

and abandoning it and not coming back after a few weeks just means you have to start over because you don't remember where to go and all that

[winter nexus]

I have the Oddworld games, but no actually Metroidvania games.

[vernal shell]

well yeah, i read they are planning on working on more doom games, just never said when

[vernal shell]

are they fun?

[winter nexus]

Yeah, but not easy.

[vernal shell]

cool

[elder viper]

im thinking either a sequel or a prequel

"Dark Ages" makes me think prequel though]

[winter nexus]

Or maybe nothing, it could just all be fabricated.

[vernal shell]

let's not set up the expectations and just see what happens

eternal and 2016 are still fun after all

[foggy seal]

yeah, we'll find out tomorrow either way

[hexed falcon]

is the announcement tomorrow?

[foggy seal]

maybe, maybe not

[hexed falcon]

is the xbox whatever it is tomorrow?

[foggy seal]

it is, still better hold off any expectations until it happens

[hexed falcon]

yup, could take until next year for a teaser

[winter nexus]

https://tenor.com/view/future-future-shit-future-crap-funny-gif-20242233

[mint plinth]

24 HOURS

[pearl pumice]

Till what

[foggy seal]

till xbox summer showcase (and potentially next id software title reveal)

[pearl pumice]

Ah yes

[flat shard]

So Sunday?

[atomic compass]

or quakecon

[atomic compass]

yes, tomorrow

[atomic compass]

it's going to be streamed on the bethesda channel, so there is some hope https://www.youtube.com/live/ghnWXJ2aKFs

[foggy seal]

Interesting

[next oxide]

If the rumors prove themselves to be true tomorrow, DOOM should have the profile picture changed across all socials promoting it.

[hexed falcon]

probably after the announcement

[winter nexus]

potentially

[foggy seal]

yeah, heavy emphasis on that

[winter nexus]

I'm guessing we'll end up getting a ton of Elder Scrolls, Starfield and possibly an announcement for the next Fallout project.

[elder viper]

Elder Scrolls Online update lmao

I doubt we'll get any significant Elder Scrolls 6 news, Starfield is likely, same with maybe new Fallout 76 content (probably cosmetics and stuff), a new Fallout game entirley does seem plausible though

after all they should absolutley capitalize on the hype and success of the show, if anything getting Obsidian or some other company to make Fallout 5 would be ideal so Bethesda could focus on 76, Starfield, and most importantly Elder Scrolls 6

or they push development on Elder Scrolls 6 and go full force on Fallout 5 themselves

[solar crown]

from a financial standpoint, if they can muster up the forces for a new fallout they probably should do that. Maybe they can release it near season 3 lol

[ornate widget]

Does doom eternal have keyboard access on new gen consoles yet ??

[pearl pumice]

https://tenor.com/view/letter-n-gif-9063758

https://tenor.com/view/dancing-letter-gif-23257484

[mint plinth]

not officially

[flat shard]

Ohh thanks

[mint plinth]

10 fucking hours

I bet they all drunk right now

[paper cairn]

[winter nexus]

Who?

[ebon moat]

The UK

[winter nexus]

No, it's only 9.41am here in London.

[atomic compass]

over an hour remains

[feral plover]

Time yet?

[atomic compass]

1 PM EST

[feral plover]

Ok

[frosty knoll]

T-minus 2-3 minutes now

[sinful stream]

Watching

[solar crown]

he has a cape now oh god

wait nononononono that dragon section looks like it's open world nononononono

the bland open world ubisoft curse has come for doom

[thorny plover]

Oh my god it’s happening

[desert otter]

PS5 or Bethesda can fuck off

[lethal marlin]

YIOO

[sinful stream]

He was so fuzzy, and he was shooting with skulls... mh

[rough scarab]

Hey devs, create the channel The Dark Ages

[blazing cargo]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CpgAOAOMUnA

[slow dust]

it's been like 5 minutes lol give'em a sec

[mint plinth]

well its official

those are certianly some strange looking demons

[foggy seal]

holy shit, so it is real

[sage rose]

wow

[thorny plover]

Looks like their going back to the darker tone of the game

[foggy seal]

looks incredibly promising

[mint plinth]

is it IdTech 7 or 8?

[sage rose]

yeah definitely saving up for collectors edition

[blazing cargo]

Announcing DOOM: The Dark Ages, the prequel to the critically acclaimed DOOM (2016) and DOOM Eternal, and the third installment of the modern DOOM series. Developed by id Software on the latest idTech engine, DOOM: The Dark Ages is a single-player action FPS that tells the epic cinematic origin story of the DOOM Slayer's rage.

Quote from video description.

[frosty knoll]

Honestly, my main concern was that this next Doom game was going to be potentially cannibalizing Quake, but hoo boy am I glad to be wrong

(it helps that it looks to be returning to the darker/grittier tone of 2016)

[blazing cargo]

I thought we'd get a CG trailer, then gameplay at QuakeCon. So glad they kicked it off with gameplay.

[hearty pelican]

Exactly! what a awesome surprise!

[restive talon]

It's a bit strange that everything looks much... cleaner, if that makes sense

[thorny plover]

I thought they were gonna reveal it’s coming later this year

[restive talon]

have you seen that Mancubus for example. he was absolutely spotless

I barely spotted any gore

[thorny plover]

We might be seeing the old demon designs from doom 64

[hearty pelican]

May be too early to tell that sort of stuff right now

[restive talon]

Nah it was too bright to be the Doom 64 design imho

[hearty pelican]

Quakecon in August will tell 😄

[restive talon]

that's true. I'm not saying it's bad however, maybe the gore comes afterwards

[hearty pelican]

It's a DOOM game. It'll have gore 😉 don't you worry about that ha

[restive talon]

Yeah true true

[foggy seal]

well you could see a part of mancubus being blown off

[restive talon]

I meant that everything looks cleaner than in the rest of Modern Doom, when I said gore I meant like fleshy environments or something

[foggy seal]

ah

i think we'll defnitely see that

[restive talon]

I think that too, only time will tell

[frosty knoll]

Alrighty, so I could definitely spot the Mancubus, Arachnotron, Hell Knight, and possibly the Agaddon Hunter (before it became the Doom Hunter)

[proud portal]

The movement is like 2016, which is expected. I'm glad to see we get to fight that huge demon in the sky we've been seeing in Eternal. I always stare at him a lot in Immora when he's fighting the other guy from afar.

[restive talon]

yknow that reminds me actually

You see when you play Exultia in Eternal and teleport to the hell section

[proud portal]

Titan*

[restive talon]

There's these huge statues of soldiers and those huge statues of demons

maybe the big demons we're facing in this game are these guys

and we use the big mech suits to beat them

[mint plinth]

hellknights and barons bleed GREEN damn it.

[blazing cargo]

The game is coming to PS5 by the way.

[restive talon]

based

is it coming to PC as well?

[blazing cargo]

Steam, PC.

[south gulch]

Let’s gooooo

[restive talon]

Hell yeah

[south gulch]

We all hate console exclusives

Glad to hear they’re releasing on the big three

[frosty knoll]

Oh yeah, I also saw a Revenant as well

[thorny plover]

Never I thought I’d see parrying in a doom game

[next oxide]

To quote Duke Nukem, “I’m back, baby!”

[frosty knoll]

Tbf, it does seem like the Arachnotrons are now bleeding red (they bled blue in Eternal)

[restive talon]

Ultrakill fans boutta have a field day with that one

[thorny plover]

Reminds me a bit of ghost runner

[restive talon]

that fits with Classic Doom tbh

[frosty knoll]

Perhaps they’re also working on possibly adding green blood to the Hell nobles?

[next oxide]

Hopefully, in a similar fashion of the last two games, we’ll fight the Mother Demon as the boss!

[mint plinth]

Prepare for battle in 2025 when DOOM: The Dark Ages arrives on Game Pass, Xbox Series X|S, PC and PlayStation 5. I knew it

[next oxide]

Releasing the same year as GTA 6. Bring on 2025!

[opaque galleon]

we are so back

[frosty knoll]

Also, hopefully they’ve finally added lasting demon corpses to the game?

(demon corpses burned away in 2016 and Eternal)

[mint plinth]

Hell knights hsould be bleeding green. That the first nitpick i have

[thorny plover]

I think Hugo said it was an engine limitation

[restive talon]

nah not really, they did in Classic Doom but they never bled green in Modern Doom

it could go either way when it comes to their blood color

[thorny plover]

Time to replay doom eternal for 400th time

[winter nexus]

Dude, just be happy, you're the one that's been hyping everyone else up non-stop.

I thought you'd be the one leading the choir, singing its praises.

[mint plinth]

ive been hyping?

its what i do

OMG perfect dark!!!

[thorny plover]

Doom ragnarok

[ancient loom]

THE FUTURE IS COMING ON

[fresh glade]

more doom...

[potent crag]

Bro when it releases I’m not going outside for the rest of the month until I finish it

[ancient loom]

https://tenor.com/view/noodle-noodle-gorillaz-russel-russel-gorillaz-2d-gif-26063215

[blazing cargo]

Site is updated

Can't post the link though hahaha

[remote cairn]

am i the only person who was hoping that dark ages would have some dark humor in it? maybe it's just because of how people made superficial comparisons to army of darkness up until the reveal

[mint plinth]

i hope they bring back invasions, but i doubt it since it was devlopmed with battlemode in mind

[restive minnow]

real

[plain crescent]

mixed feeling about dark ages

looks too slow , weird dragon riding , shield seems too op

[snow egret]

game looks really weird

[honest thistle]

I'm looking forward to trying out Dark Ages. I was definitely onboard with the ripsaw round shield.

[pearl pumice]

I hope dark ages is on gamepass ngl

Only real way I can play it :/

[honest thistle]

I believe it is/will be.

[pearl pumice]

I mean every other game is so why wouldn’t it

[sinful stream]

It will, in the end of the trailer it says "coming to game pass, xbox series x/s, steam, ps5"

[pearl pumice]

Oh ok yeah

[atomic compass]

it said it's going to be on gamepass

[pearl pumice]

Didn’t watch the trailer :/

Only just reading what y’all are saying

[sinful stream]

#videos message

[somber hare]

Will it be ported to switch?

[zenith field]

we can't just power scale forever and given the ending of TAG, slayer is probably back to being the badass he started out as. That's probably gonna be a bumpy transition for players.
you know what I would like to see?
make it a system where you start Eternal's sequel maxed out
But overtime as you weaken from losing that power you have to choose what upgrades to the slayer himself, not weapons, that you lose
until you're base stats by the end and have to rely more on your skills and weapons than just raw power

You're still upgrading but it's to accommodate your limitations as a very capable, but still mortal man. Your Maxhealth is lowering back to 100 and you're getting less ammo, health, armor pickups from demons the further along the levels you go but eventually it won't matter. All they did was make the odds slightly more fair and it's still stacked in your favor

[halcyon egret]

I agree

Dragons and Doom don’t mix well imo

[spice moss]

Holy shit I thought it was fake

[short mantle]

All and everything is fake until officially announced

[river pagoda]

Holy hell

We can parry now??

We get to ride dragons and use mechs

[hexed falcon]

bruh

[simple fossil]

Doubt it'll be that slow in gameplay, tbh. Eternal's E3 gameplay looked about as slow just for the sake of showcase

[analog shoal]

That’s what I’m thinking. We’ve barely seen any gameplay of The Dark Ages too, there’s not much to go off of. The art direction, game design and combat look promising so far though. Hoping we get more details at Quakecon.

[plain crescent]

Dont get me wrong , i bet they will show a trailer with 120 fov and higher difficulty on pc
But the gameplay seems slow , especially with the shield (perry is the meta now?)
I hope it has charges atleast

[simple fossil]

It'll probably just be closer to 2016 speed

[plain crescent]

I really like the speed of eternal tho

[simple fossil]

Both are good, I wouldn't mind a heavier hitting feel at the cost of speed

[snow lichen]

hugo did make the claim that this game would be like a monster truck as opposed to doom eternal which was a race car sooo

[plain crescent]

Anyways its too early to judge, i bet a new trailer will come out when nvidia releases next gpus

[short mantle]

idc about new gpu's, im sure it will run just fine on my 4090 lol

[plain crescent]

It will run just find with the 30s but as always they release new trailer with nvidia

[short mantle]

NVIDIA:
Best i can do is artificial frames and DLSS

[snow egret]

yeah its super weird, thats what happens when the game gets changed mid way thru from one thing to another ig

[short mantle]

but just asked in the staff chat, Billy Khan, the id tech engine overlord is still in the house.
So the game will run fucking great, even on lower end hardware

dont quote me on that one tho ^

[simple fossil]

It was already like this since Eternal though

[short mantle]

Every game after DOOM 2 was different lol

[simple fossil]

Exactly
Doom doesn't feel the same every game

2016 was heavily leaning on sci-fi
Eternal was various versions of tech-medieval (leaning more towards one or the other depending on the area) mixed with cosmic (fantasy?) stuff with urdak and the makyrs
Dark Ages seems to be leaning a lot more into the medieval bits of Eternal and easing on all the other aspects.

[short mantle]

Dont forget DOOM 3

[simple fossil]

Oh, right.
It seems closer to Sci-fi the way 2016 was, but I never played that one, so take it with a grain of salt

[short mantle]

Point is, im glad id Software NEVER does the same shit twice.
Not like.... other studios

[simple fossil]

Yeah, fair. I was a little worried when they said they wanted to make something very different than Eternal, considering how much I loved that game. But this actually looks great.

[hexed falcon]

i think you lack an open mind

[snow egret]

No what i lack is naivety

[hexed falcon]

its a doom game just dont be so negative when it starts steering a little away from what youre used to

[halcyon egret]

Classic Doom is peak Doom

[short mantle]

But hey, no matter what you do, there are always people who dont like it
Do the "same game" again: THEY ARE SO LAZY ITS JUST A CASHGRAB!
Do something different: THATS NOT MY DOOM! DOOM HAS TO BE <Insert wafflin here>

Only shows, they are still dedicated to do what they want to do.
That there still is a ray of hope in the videogame industry, when it comes to "taking risks" and being creative.

Take that 100x more, than going the "safe way" and releasing <currently popular thing here>, because its proven to work

[hexed falcon]

there were people bitching about eternal for stupid reasons too, limited ammo, cutscenes (which you can skip), the parkour

[short mantle]

lmao, the "parkour" xDDDD
Still laughing about that one

you need to.... jump....

its not even hard

[hexed falcon]

there were literally people mad at doom eternal for political reasons, like why

[short mantle]

oh yeah, the whole "Mortally challenged" thing?

fuck right off man and push your agenda somewhere else

[hexed falcon]

nah like people hated on it cause there werent any feminist support characters or trans support characters... its about doom... and the doom slayer...

[short mantle]

THE GAME LITERALLY HAS A SKIN LIKE THIS
Thats like... complaining that stuff like this is missing in a cycling game.
Bro... cmon

[slender perch]

honestly im trans and i live all around trans/poc/etc people and i thought that joke was funny as hell

[slender perch]

https://tenor.com/view/cat-shake-head-peak-its-peak-cat-its-peak-gif-8114167505731217391

[short mantle]

🙅‍♂️ 🧢

[hexed falcon]

my favorite is the dark evil looking unicorn

[sinful storm]

damn i can swear on this server

amazing.

[tiny grove]

Well, it wasn't quite there too, Hugo described the quick-swapping as intentional in that video, the game didn't encourage you to quickswap yet.

[short mantle]

Grow up.

[sinful storm]

No.

[tiny grove]

I'm down for every change so far

[short mantle]

https://tenor.com/view/better-call-saul-lalo-salamanca-better-call-saul-season6-lalo-be-nice-gif-25432528

[tiny grove]

I like the heavy, slower gameplay

I feel like it fits the setting more

[open smelt]

game looks dope to me and I like the gritty and dark vibe colours , but will RTX 2060S be able to run it smoothly since I really think game will require around RTX 3060 !!

[short mantle]

If ur on 1080p, dont play on the maximum settings, i think ur fine

[simple fossil]

Am one too, it was funny and its clearly a dig at forced sensitive-safe culture. Weird that people actually took it seriously considering the UAC lady's entire character is spewing awful, inhumane, corporate takes for the entire game.

I still find her funniest line to be
"God rested on the seventh day, but could you imagine how much further we could be if he didn't? That's why we invented the seven day work week..."

[open smelt]

Sounds great thanks 🙏

[mint plinth]

so, is it here we talk about Doom 7 now?

Doom 7 when?

[bronze oriole]

The mace looks awesome

[inland rose]

When is the game coming out

It kinda sucks that they’re sticking with the eternal feel of the game

2016 was a better game in so many ways

[hexed falcon]

uuhh okay

[inland rose]

I don’t want to ride a dragon or throw a boomerang

[hexed falcon]

then ig just hate the game while playing it? idk what else to say man if you arent into it then you dont have to play it, its not a religion

[inland rose]

I didn’t realize opinions were being suppressed here

I’m a huge fan of the doom franchise. Been playing doom since the mid 90s. I’m just not feeling the direction that it’s going

I’m obviously gonna give it a chance. I just preferred the gameplay of 2016 far more than eternal

[hexed falcon]

i feel like this gameplay might be a little different than both which im interested in, its much slower and have yet to see how much is different, people are saying theres a meathook but i dont see it

the chainsaw shield looks cool to me and im excited for the parry mechanic, flying a dragon i dont know if it'll be a one time thing or something that'll happen a lot, probably not

the mech looks pretty cool, cutscenes look super good honestly too

[neon mulch]

Yo I don’t care what anyone says. I’m just ready for this game to come out

[tough egret]

i need it I NEED IT

[bronze oriole]

Womp womp

Dont

Make a new speed run category, the shield and dragon less run

[inland rose]

They’re gonna force you to use the new mechanics

[bronze oriole]

Speed runners break rules all the time

[inland rose]

Yeah but im talking about the average person

Who just wants to shoot demons without any fluff

[bronze oriole]

Than be better than average man

[inland rose]

I mean a little change of pace is ok

[bronze oriole]

Be a true slayer

If you don't want to use the mechanics

[solar crown]

What are you basing this on? The trailer even showed more grounded combat where you moved less

[elder viper]

GETTING TO FIGHT A TITAN IN A MECH IS SO FUCKING COOL

[clever bear]

I’m assuming that the mech and dragon bits are probably onetime setpieces, given that’s how you’d normally do that. I love that they seem to have indeed scaled back the speed a little bit. Eternal’s pace is fun, but it’s also exhausting. New weapons also look great, and I especially like the new SSG reload animation

[scarlet rover]

Probably, it honestly feels like this game is a direct response to a lot of the criticisms of DOOM Eternal. One of the big criticisms of Eternal was how there were hints of mechs and dragons but you never got to do anything with them, but now you can. I feel the same way about the art style. People would complain about the more bright and arcadey look to Eternal and it seems like they made this one a lot darker and grittier looking.

[clever bear]

Yeah I can see it

[scarlet rover]

I mean it's a similar philosophy of Eternal. It was a response to the criticism of DOOM 2016 being too repetitive.

[hardy pulsar]

Dark Ages is gonna be real fun

Dragon looks amazing too

[scarlet rover]

Are you referring to Dragon Age?

[hardy pulsar]

No the dragon thing in the Doom Dark Ages trailer

[scarlet rover]

Just wanted to be sure.

[hollow panther]

Do you think it will run on Xbox One X?

[snow egret]

Could have fooled me with the way the devout rush to blindly defend it

[sinful stream]

Honestly no idea though since it was shown at the Xbox showcase I think it's more possible it will run on Xbox One X than it will not

[sinful stream]

Then just stick to Doom 2016? I don't understand why a new game getting released should be a problem

[pliant plaza]

I was watching the dark ages trailer and noticed the skulls in the skull shrapnalizer have the vacuum rune on it, though I think the ammo rune would of been funnier.

[winter nexus]

Apparently there was a Quake Easter Egg in the Machine Games Indiana Jones trailer, someone in the Quake Facebook group suggested that it could be to do with Quake 6, but all I can say is that it's one long @$$ trailer.

[hexed falcon]

i am a knight in shining armor to defend it- nah i just dont get the point of saying it better be a certain way otherwise its not doom, doom is whatever the team puts together, i dont consider the doom movies doom because id literally puts their hands up like we want nothing to do with this

you act like this is some kind of people are being brainless sheep over this thing, i think it looks cool and am optimistic, i will try to state things i like about it but ultimately if you guys are just too full of it then hey, revel in your own beliefs that the game will ruin it because of some slow pacing, or a mech fight, or flying a dragon

[snow egret]

People are allowed to be critical, it's not a personal attack against people who liked what they saw

Being critical is good, its what creates higher demand for a quality product and it often comes from a place of love of the source material to begin with

[solar crown]

you act like this is some kind of people are being brainless sheep over this thing
that's is kind of literally what was happening during the reveal and after but ok

[snow egret]

they proved the suits right who forced the decision in the first place xD

'you have to call it doom so people will eat it up'
sure enough.....

[mint plinth]

ill have to check that out. If there is one, ill find it

because that is what I do

[robust pendant]

Doom 2016 is a neat hybrid of Doom 3's horror aesthetic with OG Doom pew pew lazer guns. Doom Eternal is a sci-fi cartoon. It's an AWESOME sci-fi cartoon, but that's what it is. My stance is that each game needs to stand on its own merit, and if you like 2016 better, then it's not going anywhere

[inland rose]

Dooms progression over the last decade feels very similar to what happened with call of duty zombies. They knocked it out of the park with their early maps, but eventually leaned too heavily into the lore and introducing new mechanics that distracted from the original goal of just killing zombies. they ultimately lost track of what made the original concept great - interesting maps with high replay value. Doom eternal definitely went too far in a few places, notably platforming, so much lore dump, and way too many cutscenes that disrupted the flow. I hope they correct this in the new game, but from what I’ve seen so far it looks like they’re leaning even more into it.

[foggy seal]

cutscenes can be skipped, platforming makes navigation in levels interesting and is nice breather between arenas and at the end of the day you obliterate tons of demons

[bronze oriole]

The lore is in notes, just don't read them then. Also platforming allows for more exploration for secrets

[feral plover]

I firmly disagree with the cutscene complaints. You can skip them. Guess what doesn't have skippable cutscenes? Doom 2016.

Every time you play 2016 you have to sit through Hayden monologues like three times that interrupt gameplay.

[ripe pine]

Yeah I have to agree with mOno on this one. If you just want gameplay, then by all means just mod it. The cutscenes and lore give life to the game where there was none.

[feral plover]

People often quote Carmack's whole thing about "story in games being like story in a [REDACTED]," but they forget the first part of it - it's expected. And he's since walked back on the "not important" part.

You need some sort of story to ground you in this universe. All games nowadays need this. The original game had a story, even if it was sparce.

Doom would not have an identity without its universe.

Doom cannot progress without at least somewhat trying to develop its universe, because that is what grounds you into the game. Doom's universe defines the enemies being demons and the player being a space marine. Throw that out, what do we have? A nondescript protagonist using nondescript objects to fire at nondescript NPCs. This is part of the identity.

I firmly believe that the new Doom is enhanced by its universe and writing in spite of its flaws.

[clever bear]

While I do think the story is overcomplicated and played a little too straight, I definitely agree that Doom wouldn’t work without a story

[hexed falcon]

it might be a personal thing but i like the doom lore because its more complicated than it should be, like the writers were just having a field day over universe hopping and entire civilizations betraying others and their own

[simple fossil]

Doom Eternal had insane lore but I liked the straight-forwardness of 2016's storyline.
People keep going back to that Carmack quote, but without the story to give us context, we wouldn't care about characters like VEGA or Hayden

[shrewd leaf]

I would love to see a prime video doom series about doom 2016. And then I could end on a cliffhanger for a season 2 or another show about doom eternal, but I doubt that last part, but a doom show would kick ass!

[ionic estuary]

Check out the 2016 live action trailer called fight like hell

Also I really hope (if it even happens) Eternals sequel has the return of the mother demon or possibly a face off with the father or something but I wonder what a depowered doom slayer would play like

[elder viper]

Classic Doom Doomguy probably

[clever bear]

I imagine a depowered Slayer would be working with a similar moveset to the OG Doomguy

Probably health and ammo would be less readily available than NuDoom so far and you might have to deal with fall damage

[solar crown]

A depowered slayer would play identical to a powered slayer, because not a whole lot of eternal's gameplay is bevause of the divinity machine and ID puts gameplay before lore anyways

[potent hound]

Skynet

[ionic estuary]

https://tenor.com/view/skinet-skinet-remember-maquinas-revolucion-gif-7115195292076587720

[clever bear]

Boston Dynamics will not be forgiven for their sins

[winter nexus]

I'm looking forward to the new Terminator anime.

[iron pagoda]

#general message

what if because doomguy beat davoth, davoths creator sees him as a threat

[winter nexus]

Who's Davoth's creator?

[pearl pumice]

Davoth Senior

[iron pagoda]

hugo martin is going to do a john romero

[winter nexus]

I can imagine at the end of it all, the Slayer and Davoth are like kid brothers that were fooling around, like Guybrush and Chuckie at the end of Monkey Island 2.

[feral plover]

The Mysterious Voice. See the Lore FAQ: https://docs.google.com/document/d/1oFChYPBzIDvzSGBM4kxu_P7GIdlGBmuCL_1S1g-CTcM/edit?usp=sharing

[nimble loom]

Who created davoths creator?

[shadow goblet]

you know those can be skipped right? And you dont need to read the codex's. I honestly enjoy what they have did with Dooms. Minimal but welcomed when it does show.

[snow egret]

Imagine if this industry let sleeping dogs lie literally ever

[atomic compass]

I just had a thought about this one:

There’s nothing in Doom that suggests he killed the Titan in Doom 2016 with his bare hands. All that is said is that he met the Great One in battle, and it fell.

So Doom Slayer/Guy in the new game takes place in between after the events of Doom 64's Lost Levels and Doom 2016, and in the trailer we can see him in a mech fighting a Titan

What if beforehand, he went to Titan's Realm and killed his first Titan there in the game without much accessories and with his bare hands (or maybe mech first and then without due to power gain?)?

And then afterwards he uses the mech or dragon

[twin marten]

Doom eternal on mobile????

[atomic compass]

lmao we wish

[twin marten]

Ikr same

Or when it comes out doom dark ages on xbox one???

[feral plover]

The death of the Great One happens after The Dark Ages, since he did this during his conquest in Hell which was after Argent D'Nur fell.

[atomic compass]

so, maybe DLC?

[scenic kestrel]

I would want a doom 2 remake

[atomic compass]

• Me personally, not really. I don't feel like it would make much sense to necessarily remake or remaster it. The classic games should be left alone IMO
• Technically a Doom 2 "remake" is Doom Eternal

[feral plover]

Potentially.

[atomic compass]

I wonder how the DLC will show how Dark Ages transitions to 2016

but that's until 2026, I'll be in college then unfortunately

[winter nexus]

We haven't even got the base game yet, never mind the DLC.

[cosmic venture]

The Dark Ages should end with Doom Slayer getting sealed in the sarcophagus, right?

[solar crown]

depends on if they do post betrayel or if it's just solely fun sentinel fighting

[winter nexus]

In theory

It depends if they join the stories

[atomic compass]

future projection and predictions, this is what this chat is for

[winter nexus]

But you don't know the extent to the content that the base game will contain, to be able to separate it out between base campaign and DLC. I mean based on what criteria are you separating them?

[atomic compass]

• Doom 2016 has the Slayer waking up from the sarcophagus
• Doom: The Dark Ages IMO might focus on the bulk of content of how Slayer gained his title, but not initially being put into the sarcophagus yet
• There will be expansion DLC based on the FTC v MS report document leak, so I’m going to assume that now we know what DTDA focuses from after Doom 64 The Lost Levels, and before Doom 2016, it’s safe to assume that based on information from the Codex in 2016 and Eternal as well as Eternal’s flashbacks, the end of the final expansion for DTDA might show Slayer being put into the sarcophagus. Cue 2016 eons later.

But what do I know, we’ve only seen the trailer and the interview with Hugo so we’re definitely missing a lot of things

August will definitely show us more at QuakeCon

[lethal marlin]

Thats my guess, but doom eternal didnt start how doom 2016 ended so dark ages has a possibility to end differently

[winter nexus]

Yeah, they could tie it up directly, or leave a gap, like they did between 2016 and Eternal. I'd hope that both gaps be filled though personally.

[lethal marlin]

Yeah same

[astral sequoia]

I was talking about that when I was in the dark age chat the other day

I mean the new doom game has very awesome concept: like Being set in medieval times, the Chainsaw Sheild, Controlling a Kaiju-esque Robot, Riding a Dragon, the Slayer Origins, and among other things ETC. But I Would really wanna know what happened to Slayer between DOOM 2016 to DOOM Eternal.

Like theirs no way Hayden would just send him to a space fortress with his own stuff and have a teleporter there to travel where he pleases to go.

That’s sounds more like he had done something to earn it.

Or that he just broke out of where ever Hayden sent him and fought demons and enemies along the way and founded or gotten the space fortress with his our stuff.

[winter nexus]

I think the Kaijus are the organic monsters, the robots are mechs (or jaegers in Pacific Rim). I think they call them Atlans Doom, but yes, I digress, I understand your point.

[astral sequoia]

Yes that pacific rim like robot

[winter nexus]

Hugo talked about releasing a comic to cover this, but it never materialised.

[winter nexus]

Obviously we know that he went on to confront that first Deag inside the Hell Barge, but I'd like to know how he ended up there, obviously he would've fought a guardian of some description, as with the other two Deagues.

But a lot must've happened prior to this, since he has a different praetor suit.

I think it was like six years or something.

[astral sequoia]

Yeah

[elder viper]

Until stated otherwise. I imagine Hayden just sent Doomguy somewhere deep into Hell and Doomguy got help from Valen and The Wretch

I mean doubt he’d go to Sentinel Prime as to not alert the Deags to his presence

His only allies in Hell would be Valen and The Wretch

The Wretch enchanted the Praetor Suit and Valen has some Sentinel tech in his hideout

[astral sequoia]

Hayden shouldn’t have send him to hell he should know better than to do that he should know more what slayer is more capable of which we do but Samuel doesn’t.

Like seriously he (Slayer) went into hell multiple times and is still alive and kicking.

[elder viper]

Well the teleporter did teleport him out of Hell so it makes sense. Also Hayden acknowledges he can’t kill Doomguy and containing him is also pretty useless without that coffin so teleporting him away and delaying his arrival to Earth was the only real option

[astral sequoia]

And besides that he able to destroy a demon with his bare hands.

Doom Slayer isn’t afraid of hell. Hell is afraid of him.

Hell knows what he is capable of which is why I think Hayden sending him to hell is obviously the biggest mistake of his life.

[feral plover]

I mean when you encounter Hayden in 2016 if you try to shoot him he makes a shield and says “save your ammunition” before doomguy automatically puts his gun down

[winter nexus]

Plot armour.

[feral plover]

Yeah might just be plot armor

[ebon moat]

If I were Samuel Hayden, I would let Doomguy shoot me

[next oxide]

I feel this series should get to visit Tei Tenga in a future.

While it may have been cut from Doom, it’s still referenced in the classics in a texture, and 2016 even has a reference to it.

[austere cypress]

What is Tei Tenga???

[next oxide]

A fictional planet that was going to be the setting of the original Doom from 1993, before it moved to the Mars’ moons, Phobos and Deimos.

[austere cypress]

ooohhh

[ionic estuary]

Man I can’t wait for doom guy to doom all over the place and say it’s doom time in doom eternal 2 electric boogaloo

[bronze oriole]

"DOOM: back to the fields" is the best one by far

[ebon moat]

The hype

[ionic estuary]

Doomguy is like my hero

HOLY SHIT ITS DOOM GUY.!!!

[ebon moat]

Major fax

[ionic estuary]

I’m like your biggest fan

[ebon moat]

Nice

[devout finch]

[winter nexus]

There are like half a dozen users that come in her with either the name Doom Guy or Doom Slayer.

[ionic estuary]

oh

your the real doomguy right

[ionic estuary]

THATS SO EPIC, you promise not to scam me right 😊

https://tenor.com/view/doom-slayer-doomslayer-doom-doomguy-bot-evil-face-gif-14153166679121135978

[dapper garden]

[quartz verge]

That's from DOOMGUY BOT right?

[ionic estuary]

Ye

[quartz verge]

Hell yeah

[winter nexus]

They're from parallel dimensions.

Sort of, I mean Hell is more like a root dimension.

[dapper garden]

I miss that bald fella

[drowsy shuttle]

Depending on how far TDA goes into lore, I feel like it'll be the last DOOM :(

[dapper garden]

Eternal was already the last Doom I feel. TDA exists to cover the interesting ideas they talked about from the Slayer's past

[mint plinth]

well, next game is Doom: The Second AGe

Then Doom The Third Age

I know some people find it offensive with this suggestion, but also a Prequel Prequel, about his life as a Doom Marine.

I can keep going

[drowsy shuttle]

DOOM 3 ?

[dapper garden]

Doom 3 Doomguy is another guy

[mint plinth]

doom3/1/2/64, whatever

[drowsy shuttle]

I mean....Eternal is the last in lore. But TDA will prob cover the rest of the lore we don't know. So depending of how much lore it tells, it'll prob be the very last DOOM game ?

[feral plover]

It will not be the last Doom game, I can promise you that.

Doom is a juggernaut. They'll figure out a way to sell more Doom games.

[drowsy shuttle]

I'd love more DOOM games !

I just hope they won't use "oh no, another battle with a greater enemy there !"

I don't know how to explain it tho

I do trust ID Software, they know what they're doing

[feral plover]

there will for sure be a sequel to eternal

i can already tell that tda is setting up a character as the antagonist for that future game

[drowsy shuttle]

I would LOVE to see the demon before he became the Cyberdemon in 2016 😍

[uneven nimbus]

Do you think they’ll still try to do a Doom universe?

[ebon moat]

Balgaar race baybeee

[drowsy shuttle]

What do you mean ?

[ebon moat]

That's Hugo Martin's big goal, so I don't think he'd stop.

[uneven nimbus]

Tbh, even I’m not sure.
I always interpreted as like….more works set in the Doom universe perhaps?

[drowsy shuttle]

But what do you mean by "DOOM universe" ?

[uneven nimbus]

That’s what Hugo said.

But since TAG concluded the Slayer’s saga, I wasn’t sure if it will still be a thing.

[ebon moat]

He means like an expansive lore, universe, and history behind everything.

Like the Slayer's origins, the Sentinel history, the multiverse and whatnot

[uneven nimbus]

Could Quake fit into that somehow?

Or other Id properties?

Or do you think it’ll be a Doom only kind of thing.

[drowsy shuttle]

Well the answer is yes ?

Since 2016, they tell a LOT in codex, explaining nearly everything you see so....

[dapper garden]

What about the times he was trapped in Hell between 64 and his random appearance in Argent D'nur?

[drowsy shuttle]

Once more, it'll just be DOOM 3

By which I mean, it won't be the Slayer

No super powers so no absurd super strength, speed, overpowered guns etc

I'm sure ID could make it awesome anyway

[dapper garden]

Not having super powers doesn't take away his ability to use overpowered guns. He's always used those

[solar crown]

Everyone knows you physically can not make a character that is not doomslayer in this vast universe ofc

[solar crown]

Lore has always been secondary to gameplay, and in gameplay we see extremely little abilities that anyone as "player" wouldn't be able to achieve.

They'd basically only have to remove the breakable walls lol

[elder viper]

Considering Doom has very clearly established its ’Doom Multiverse’ if another id Softwate property where to be brought in it would have to be Quake

Other worlds and portals are literally Quakes bread and butter

[feral plover]

If any non-Doom franchise could cleanly fit into Doom's canon it would be Quake.

[foggy seal]

don't recent Dooms have even slipgates for some reason

which were present in quake initially

[drowsy shuttle]

Wolfenstein too no ?

Don't we fight a demon very similar to the Tiran which we destroy his left arm and right leg ?

[inland rose]

Is the new game coming out soon

[short mantle]

2025

[winter nexus]

Doom had portals. Pretty much the same though.

[winter nexus]

The Harbinger, that was in Wolfenstein RPG I believe.

[foggy seal]

I know that, but I'm talking about inclusion of slipgates term specifically , kinda odd to throw this term there when they could have just called them portals or whatever

[winter nexus]

I'm guessing the terms portal had been done to death, or slipgate was probably reminiscent of stargates from the franchise of the same name.

[worldly beacon]

I believe doom slayer is canonically afraid of women

[drowsy shuttle]

No ?

You forgot Olivia Pierce, he was never afraid of her

[cosmic ember]

he had a wife

[worldly beacon]

But when she died, he got PTSD

[winter nexus]

And a female rabbit.

[drowsy shuttle]

Why did he killed Olivia then ?

[cosmic ember]

what does this mean

wrong reply

[cosmic ember]

because she was trying to open a portal to hell

its not the fact that she was a woman it was the fact that she was endangering the universe

[elder viper]

https://tenor.com/view/spongebob-cute-upset-reverse-reversed-gif-27578623

[ionic estuary]

Wrong

He’s married to isabelle

[main field]

isabelle is his child

[ionic estuary]

They are literally married

[main field]

hes all ready married to someone dead

[ionic estuary]

Blud doesn’t know his doom lore

[main field]

he has a pic of his family in doom eternal

[ionic estuary]

They literally got married in smash in the final update

[worldly beacon]

Furry you are my brother now

[ionic estuary]

I’m not a furry 💀

[wind monolith]

The doom guy and Isabelle are canonically married

[ionic estuary]

Yes

[worldly beacon]

(I’m a furry) what you said was furry material

[bitter tide]

No it’s just visions of Hell and he got them from interacting with shit from Hell iirc

[bitter tide]

No it’s more so likely a reference to Quake tbh

[astral sequoia]

Oh god don’t give me that Idea I don’t mind them being just very great friends but being married.

That gives me the idea that’s he’s apart of the who know what fandom.

[astral sequoia]

Clearly your a incel

https://tenor.com/view/tony-stark-jarvis-gif-22373764

[feral plover]

I don't think the term "slipgate" is meant to be a big damning connection to Quake; moreso just it's a fun word and a neat little reference.

And yeah it sounds better than "portal."

[drowsy shuttle]

They're besties, nothing more

[winter nexus]

The heck's Isabelle?

[drowsy shuttle]

https://tenor.com/view/rip-and-tear-doom-doomguy-isabelle-isabelle-animal-crossing-gif-26156184

From Animal Crossing

[drowsy shuttle]

What's the part of DOOM lore you prefer ?

[feral plover]

I like the Argenta a lot, as well as the hypothetical details of how Hell society works.

[drowsy shuttle]

Tell us more :D

[ionic estuary]

That’s rad 👍

[ionic estuary]

Who cares

[astral sequoia]

I mean I just don’t want Slayer to be a furry that’s all.

[opaque pecan]

We need a dlc where we play as crash during the Phobos and Deimos invasion

It'd be cool

[winter nexus]

They have furries in Ultrakill?

[shy sparrow]

if you count that dev that controls the seconds earthmover that shoots the one you fight, yes

[dapper shoal]

I wonder if they will release a new doom game. been a while since eternal.

[elder viper]

New one was announced a while ago

Its Doom The Dark Ages

[dapper shoal]

https://tenor.com/view/shock-shocker-shocked-black-guy-gif-27526370

[feral plover]

Where have you been?

There was a trailer 2 weeks ago

[dapper shoal]

sarcasm

[feral plover]

Oh

[inland rose]

They’re taking forever to release it

[honest venture]

Honestly. With The Dark Ages coming out next year, it might be safe to say DOOM will not be ID's main focus again for a long time. The modern Doom Trilogy will be played and talked about for a while, and it will hopefully give ID the breathing room to work on their other titles, like Wolfenstien or Quake

[solar crown]

People said that after eternal too and waddya know lol

[elder viper]

MachineGames handles Wolfenstein now and there making that Indiana Jones game rn so i doubt were getting any Wolfenstein content for a while

[honest venture]

Ah, alright

[fathom basalt]

https://tenor.com/view/doom-the-dark-ages-doom-dark-ages-doom-dark-ages-doomguy-gif-366884463840825135

[cobalt mountain]

After the release of the new doom game and it’s DLC’s, I really hope ID software would work on a quake game. That will be so cool.!

[honest venture]

I mean yeah, but with TAG's ending and now a prequel before 2016, what else can they do?

The Slayer's in eternal slumber, Hell is no longer on Earth, Davoth is dead

[solar crown]

You can do enough justifications to make more games, like you don't need the slayer, you can still have stories that don't involve earth's direct invasion, davoth really doesn't matter since he's a DLC character they did a rushed job on

[ebon moat]

Dyope

[nova scarab]

You can always make more games about the slayers past. Who knows maybe they’d remake the classic ones?

[solar crown]

Theres nothing about the classics to be redone though

Theres basically no story, graphics are still fine af, gameplay isn't even that dated, they are even free!
Like, what reason but greed is there to rework them

[feral plover]

MONEH

Genuinely going to be so disappointed if ID hops on the remake bandwagon

Just make new games there’s plenty to be done in the doom universe

[nova scarab]

The story in doom 1993 could be remade. The gameplay is also definitely dated imo

You can’t even look up and down 😭

And the no story is kind of the reason i brought up remakes lol

[solar crown]

Ok but like, what story would you want to remake lol

[solar crown]

Iirc with some easy mods you can, and that really isn't enough to warrent a full remake lol

But if you have new gameplay and a new story... what exactly did you "remake"

[feral plover]

And

[feral plover]

Is the shield possessed? Why does it attach to the arm by itself

[foggy seal]

ever heard of magnets?

[winter nexus]

I'm still hoping to eventually see a Call of Doom story at, even if it's through a different medium, such as a comic. I'd love to see Earth's resistance struggle against the forces of hell, with maybe the Slayer being an urban legend operating behind the scenes, with occasional sightings etc. I love games like Metro, Fallout and Terminator Resistance etc, so I think it'd be fun.

[solar crown]

If so i really hope ID won't be the one wastimg their time on that sheer generic shooter game

[winter nexus]

I don't see why it has to be generic, if there's one thing that id has always done, it's to change something or add something new with each iteration, even if part of the fanbase is adverse to it, such as the verticality and platforming in Eternal.

Id tends to not want to simply churn out the same thing iteration after iteration, but will always throw us a curve ball and give us a fresh challenge.

[nova scarab]

That’s kind of the point of a remake…

[solar crown]

but genuinely... why not just make a new game and not needlessly shackle yourself to the OGs???

[nova scarab]

With the dark ages coming out there’s not much you can do for the current lore

[solar crown]

yes you can. Unless you think we MUST have doomguy as the protagonist

[nova scarab]

I mean yeah of course i wanna see doomguy

imagine a God of war game without kratos
or a mgs without a snake

[solar crown]

atleast both of those games have 100 times more interaction with the main character

doom... really is lite on doomguy's character. Lite enough to where having someone like Crash take the wheels for once really shouldn't be that bad

also like... i could easily see GoW have atreus as the next MC

at minimum, we need someone to set up getting the guy out of the coffin again

cause doing a 2016 again just sucks storywise

[winter nexus]

I mean they can change the equation while still set it in the same universe, kinda like the Bioshock games where at first glance, they're completely different games with different protagonists, but all exist within the same wider world building lore.

[solar crown]

having only played part of 1 rn, the protagonist could not matter less so far

[elder viper]

Just use GZDoom if it bothers you that much

The game literally has features that aid with the fact you can’t look up or down and the levels are specifically designed around that

[elder viper]

If id wanted to go that direction they should just make a new IP otherwise the closest you’ll get is RAGE 1.

Making mainline Doom games in subgenres it wasn’t originally is an awful idea

[feral plover]

True

[elder bear]

when are we getting a doom cookbook

[icy lava]

when are we getting flying spiders in the new doom game?

[umbral viper]

We already have flying spiders in real life

[honest venture]

I think this is why Brutal Doom is a thing, or even GZDoom

[winter nexus]

You can see as much as you need to see pretty much.

[dry pollen]

One message removed from a suspended account.

[craggy mirage]

did you guys see the new cacodemons in the trailer?

they look so fucking good idc what anyone says

i loved doom 3 cacodemon

[winter nexus]

Where does it say that those are Cacodemons?

[craggy mirage]

flying circular demons

can only mean one thing

[winter nexus]

Lost Souls are also flying circular demons.

Pain Elemental is a flying circular demon.

[craggy mirage]

lost souls aren't really circular enough but its either a pain elemental or a caco

my bets are on caco

[split beacon]

Cacodemon

[haughty iron]

Agreed

[meager ore]

I love bioshock

[novel snow]

Whos hyped for the New Doom Game?

[winter nexus]

Sure but it's a long way off yet and I'm trying not to feel any way about it yet.

[elder viper]

Nah there definitely Octobrains from Duke Nukem 👍

Jokes aside whatever they are they look very similar to Octobrains but I hope there not Cacos and something new

In the trailer all we saw where the new Possessed Soldiers, Classic Imps, new Mancubus, new Revenant, new Pinky, new Hell Knight, new Arachnotron, what i assume are the Agaddon Hunters, and of course the unidentified flying demons

[azure moss]

I am but its disappointing that Mick Gordon won't be the composer for it

[errant cargo]

Mick deserved better, without a doubt.

[nova meadow]

Doom without Mick is like cereal without milk

[errant cargo]

Cereal without milk is kinda good, Doom without Mick is like a house without a foundation.

Come for the game, stay for the kickass soundtrack.

[inland rose]

I just want levels with high replay value

the soundtrack helps but isnt essential

I could not care less about lore

[left basin]

Doom is Cinnamon Toast Crunch, and Mick is Milk, you can have that yummy cinna toast crunch with heavy cream, but it will taste different

[azure moss]

Ya

[winter nexus]

Ah, yeah, I saw the Octobrains/Grell in the trailer. So that's what people are mistaking for Cacodemons? I mean unless it's a deflated Caco with a prolapse, I don't know why they'd think that.

[elder viper]

I mean I didn’t see to many other flying enemies that looked Cacodemon-ish so I assume it’s that Octobrain one everyone’s referring to

[elder viper]

Mick not doing the soundtrack isn’t even that bad

[winter nexus]

It's no bigger a deal than the Doom 3 composer having not done the music for 2016 and so on.

[winter nexus]

Sure but I don't get how they're looking at that and seeing a Cacodemon.

[mint plinth]

if its a cacodemon, then i do not approve of the design. looks nothing like one

[elder viper]

Yeah which is why it’s probably a new demon entirely

It’s a little too different

[ebon moat]

What do you think of the DOOM 3 one?

[mint plinth]

its okay but not my favorite.

[ebon moat]

Based actually

[winter nexus]

I didn't mind the Doom 3 design, and that one also appeared to have been inspired by the Grell, but I'd have preferred they'd have called it something else, rather than trying to reinvent the wheel.

[candid copper]

Doom animal crossing game when? not like animals in the doomiverse. I want doom guy to farm turnips

[winter nexus]

You guys need to forget about Animal Crossing.

[feral plover]

fr lmao it was funny when it was relevant

[candid copper]

😦

I do think it would be cool to have the perspective of a normal human in the universe. get back to the roots of desperation that the first DOOM guy had.

or follow the life of some other night sentinals

[feral plover]

we need Doom-Eternal: Blue Shift

[winter nexus]

That was the VR game.

[feral plover]

omg yeah forgot abt that

[winter nexus]

And 2016 was RED Shift.

[feral plover]

opposing force would be battlemode ig

[winter nexus]

I'd have placed that as Counter Strike.

Battlemode, that is.

[feral plover]

then who gonna b opposing force?

[winter nexus]

The Dark Ages

[feral plover]

i dont think thats from demon pov

[winter nexus]

Maybe the Doom 2016 multiplayer then.

[uneven nimbus]

What was the whole thing with Animal Crossing and Doom Eternal?

[cosmic ember]

Both released March 20th

There was no actual marketing with the 2 together it was just a thing the communities did

[uneven nimbus]

Ah.

[opal nymph]

the future...

[hardy raptor]

heh, for me it was the other way around.

[feral plover]

Hello

[slow ibex]

Sand

[winter nexus]

I usually switch the soundtrack to the classic Doom OST or to some Psychedelic Trance or something. I'm not crazy about the newer Doom music.

https://tenor.com/view/nails-on-chalkboard-getting-attention-scratch-jaws-universal-pictures-gif-17329973

[shy nimbus]

amen brotha

[winter nexus]

Huh? Mick's "Johnny Come Lately", he was recent, Doom existed long before Mick got involved and will continue to flourish without him. Easy come, easy go.

[meager isle]

Whats even going on with doom eternal??? The last update was years ago… 😔

[zinc sluice]

Bleach in the baby

[true cave]

Well technically, Doom Eternal support was completed with update 6.66 in October 2021, after which only skin packs and few minor fixes were released. Then apparently the developers fully focused on Dark Ages, so that Eternal can be considered completely finished project

[winter nexus]

Why does it need another update?

[elder viper]

Game stopped being supported after version 6.66 just like 2016 did

Wonder if it’s gonna be the same for TDA

[reef lodge]

I don't see why a game needs constant updates. It's done, id is happy with the current state, we wait for TDA now.

[elder viper]

Mod support would’ve been nice but yeah Eternals current state is completely fine rn

[reef lodge]

I'd love a SnapMap-style mode for a future game.

[tranquil hare]

I think multiplayer would be cool too

[lyric gulch]

can't wait for papi chulo

[magic crown]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8zchTJ-BoKY

[scenic rune]

https://tenor.com/view/future-spongebob-squidward-gif-5073180

[mint plinth]

there is a link you can find. from te4ch4gamers . id-software-more-games - Looks like id might be working on some other games. Perhaps helping Machine Games with Quake,

Or whatever game is going to debute on the new Idtech8

[elder viper]

That’s probably gonna be TDA

still wish we get that Quake reboot someday

[winter nexus]

Not a complete reboot though, maybe more of a soft reboot, like what was done with Doom 2016, and connected to the classic Quake.

[thorn dagger]

The future....

[tranquil hare]

https://tenor.com/view/w3-ww3-х-3-what-ww-gif-6991777098731466777

[tranquil hare]

What is Quake even about

[reef lodge]

Quake I - Dimension Travel
Quake II, 4 and ET:QW - War between Humans and Stroggs (aliens).
Quake III - ...

[elder viper]

Quake 1 is about stopping a Lovecraftian threat called Shub-Nigeria (the actual name gets censored by the bot I think) and there’s all this portal travel and teleportation it’s awesome

Quake 2 and 4 are about fighting an alien race called the Strogg

Quake 3 and Quake Champions are online games

[tranquil hare]

https://tenor.com/view/quake-grunt-dancing-gaming-gif-16776488

[reef lodge]

*ET:QW is also canon to the Quake II universe

[tranquil hare]

nice

Is Quake 1 canon to anything else?

[reef lodge]

Quake is weird in the way that almost every game is completely different to any other one. Quake I suffered the most from this as it is not canon to anything else.

Though with the plot involving Dimension Travel you could see it as being canon to everything by technicality.

[opaque plover]

i mean technically quake champions tries to tie together quake 1 and quake 2 + 4's storylines and quake champions is canon to quake 3 but i'm not sure if the multiplayer games are truly canon
the expansion packs exclusive to quake 1 and quake 2's remasters (dimension and call of the machine respectively) do tie together the shub and strogg storylines as well but their canonicity is also wonky

[reef lodge]

Quake's timeline is just weird, let's leave it at that.

[elder viper]

Not really. It’s fun to think about but Quake 1 isn’t canon to the storylines of Quake II or Quake 4. Though if you want to for the Quake II Remaster (Spoilers for the new Quake II remastered episode) ||You fight 2 Shamblers and there’s a few levels with a bunch of references to Quake 1 in it. || Probably just references and nothing else but it’s fun to think that it’s canon.

[muted moon]

i just thought quake was a doom knockoff ngl

[mint plinth]

Quake 1 and 2 were not oringally suppose to be in the same universe, but fans kinda made it that way and the new episode cements that theory. I like the lore more when they are connected.

[elder viper]

I really hope that was a teaser for future plans and not just a for fun fanservice moment

[mint plinth]

ive been thinking the same thing for years.

If they ever remaster Quake 3, woudn't it be awesome if they gave us a campaign to go with it? Problaby not going to happen, but if they do remaster Quake 4, maybe we get a campaign there like we did with Doom BFG edition

[elder viper]

They look pretty drastically different from each other visually, audibly, and in how the gameplay looks

[reef lodge]

Quake III has always had a campaign, though...

Even then, the Quake III remaster expanded it considerably.

[mint plinth]

I dont remember the Q3 campaign

[reef lodge]

It's just Free-For-Alls with occasional 1v1 boss fights. Remaster added extra levels as challenges.

[elder viper]

Yeahhhhhhh I don’t think where getting a Quake 4 remaster. On the other hand though a hypothetical Quake 6 (counting QC as Quake 5) combining the Strogg and lovecraft would be awesome

Stroggified cyber Shamblers

There’s so much potential with a new Quake game

[mint plinth]

hellified stroggified cyber shamblers, with laser beams

[opaque plover]

i am begging on my hands and knees for a quake 4 remaster like you wouldn't believe

[mint plinth]

i tried playing Return to Castle wolfenstein earlier today. It looked very rough. that also needs a remaster

Quake 1 looks 10 times better even with the sily monsters and weapon models

[reef lodge]

It also doesn't play all too well IMO. People shit on the shotgun spread in D3 but here the bullet spread of basically every weapon is horrible.

[feral plover]

damn

[ebon moat]

Also RotW maps are much bigger

Doom 3 has CQC and bunny hops that makes it easy to get point blank with enemies

[meager ore]

They should make an open world doom game

[foggy seal]

please, there's abundance of "open world" games

[meager ore]

Yeah but the doom games feel so short

I would like it if they were long games maybe not as long as rdr

[mellow ferry]

I will take a shorter DOOM game with tight level and encounter design over some open world thing they had to stretch

Just gimme some secrets and challenges in the maps and I'll dump hundreds of hours in just messing about over and over

[winter nexus]

They can make them longer without them necessarily having to be open world. Either way, the Eternal campaign was he longest so far, and in many cases, like with CoD, the storyline it continued in the other accompanying gameplay modes, in order to get the full story, so id could maybe drop lore into the multiplayer mode, that we wouldn't typically find elsewhere. I was hoping they'd do that with Mighty Doom and use it to tell the story of what happened between 2016 and Eternal, but it was a missed opportunity.

[pastel beacon]

Same

[winter nexus]

The Light Ages.

[winter nexus]

I was actually thinking of something like how in the Middle Earth games, they have he Dark Lord (Sauron) and the Bright Lord (Celibrimbor), who kinda goes off and does his own thing.

No, I'm actually Egyptian, I just liked how Dishoom sounded like Doom.

There's a chain of Indian restaurants here in the UK called Dishoom too.

Where are you from?

Which part?

Ah, Maharastra, I want to visit the temple there.

Yes, I also want to visit the Sikh Golden Temple in the Punjab, and maybe some of the Hindu sites, like Vrindaven.

[winter nexus]

I mean that's still not a lot of money, but I tend to keep my distance from street food, it's less hygienic.

[atomic compass]

Doom Youtooz have been announced

nope, link won't send of course not

recent youtooz post, Youtooz X DOOM

[reef lodge]

You can screenshot the content of the link and send it as an image via discordapp embeds

[atomic compass]

actually yeah forgot

[atomic compass]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/937865838848008222/1267584086936129646/GTrBcyYWoAE2Ep3.jpg

This post goes so fucking hard

[feral plover]

Who wants to cosplay as a zombie to recreate the end credits scene of doom eternal

All we need is a tyrant toy

[ancient creek]

holy shit it does

[hearty pelican]

Will be going in my DOOM collection 😛

Yea 😄

[atomic compass]

as of now, i dont think there was one yet

yeah still no release date

[reef lodge]

Do you mean a carrd?

Yup, that's called a carrd, you can make one yourself from the carrd website

[tawny mountain]

maybe a doom game for android and ios like cod mobile

[ancient plank]

That'd be lit but that'd be making phones steam with the amount buttons and actions 💀

[spark nexus]

what we need from quakecon 2024:

1. Doom: TDA gameplay reveal
2. Quake 6 teaser
3. Doom eternal modding reveal
4. Quake 3 remaster
5. Opening of pre-orders for doom tda & Indiana jones

[reef lodge]

That is a very long list, Quake III remaster already exists though

[spark nexus]

it would be nice to see the singleplayer campaign of quake 3 in a remaster

[reef lodge]

That is what I am talking about, it's only on Xbox right now so I hope it gets ported everywhere else, it's called Quake Arena Arcade and it's pretty fun

[spark nexus]

I would like more than the q3aa campaign

[reef lodge]

Quake Arena Arcade adds bonus content to it, I'd say it's the perfect campaign

[foggy seal]

we need Quake 4 remaster with The Awakening DLC brought back to life and new expansion altogether

[opaque plover]

true, but i feel like that's something they'd save until next year's quakecon

[spark nexus]

Quake 4 is for 2026

[reef lodge]

Nothing is confirmed regarding a Quake 4 remaster, port, or anything

[spark nexus]

I just think that a quake 3 remaster wouldn't take as long as the quake 1&2 remasters since quake 3 is just a multiplayer game. so they can show the remaster this year

[reef lodge]

They could just do a QAA port

[foggy seal]

there's litterally no need for that

[spark nexus]

Why

maybe source port

[spark nexus]

also: why is this list too long? id software will have 4 parts at quakecon 2024

[reef lodge]

Never said TOO long, just said long, didn't mean for it to come off as a bad thing

[winter nexus]

Long is only a bad thing if you overexpect and are then disappointed.

As usual, I'm expecting Bethesda to hijack the show with all of their stuff, to be honest.

[reef lodge]

My exact same thoughts: #general message

[winter nexus]

1. Is likely.

2. I think they'd wait for the Doom hype to pass before announcing a Quake 6.

3. It's possible, but probably not a priority for id.

4. I don't know, because it's online, they might just skip straight to Doom 4, which I'd personally prefer, and perhaps do a Quake 3 mod for Quake Champions.

5. Likely, but I'm honestly not an expert on any of the above.

[reef lodge]

There's a Quake III campaign, as I said in this channel before there's a remaster of the campaign that extends it greatly, it's an Xbox-exclusive, so a port with some QOL features would be the best of both worlds

[winter nexus]

I honestly don't know much about Quake 3, I was playing UT around that time.

[reef lodge]

It's a fun experience, Quake I is still better imo

[spark nexus]

yes, quake 3 is the worst of the best

[spark nexus]

I would also like to see, if not a remaster of quake 3, then an update of quake 2. in 1 year we have not received a single major update

although the fact that we have not received updates for quake 2 in a year may well mean that they have been making a remaster of quake 3 all this time

[ocean aurora]

You talking about Quake 2 for steam, right?

[spark nexus]

Quake 2 remastered

[ocean aurora]

Yee.

[short mantle]

Doubt there is a big interest in "Any Arena Shooter"-Type of game

[elder viper]

Doubt we’d be getting Quake 6 AND DOOM: TDA

I don’t really trust anyone besides id Software and MachineGames to handle an IP like Quake or Doom

[reef lodge]

Splash Damage and Raven Software did good I'd say

[feral plover]

True

Raven made HeXen and Heretic right

[reef lodge]

• Quake 4 and Wolfenstein 2009

Now they're stuck in the CoD mines

[feral plover]

What did Splash Damage do?

[reef lodge]

Wolfenstein: Enemy Territory and Enemy Territory: Quake Wars

Honestly, I haven't even played the first one, it's free but the Quake one always intrigued me more, and that one is pretty fun

[feral plover]

Quake seems like fun

Actually it is fun, just started I and II on Nightmare

[reef lodge]

Oh Quake is plenty fun

[elder viper]

Yeah well Ravens current status is uhhhhh

[reef lodge]

^

[elder viper]

yeah that

[left finch]

I'm not a fan of EA. But I like Motive.

[atomic compass]

DOOM 1 AND 2 ARE BEING REMASTERED ON THE KEX ENGINE

[feral plover]

officially?

or speculating

[atomic compass]

NO, OFFICIAL LOOK AT WARIO64'S TWITTER

[feral plover]

i know now, absolute hype

[leaden hedge]

i hope there's a new wolfenstine game coming soon

[spark nexus]

ahh it's so boring

[elder viper]

I was against a remaster cause we have the Unity rereleases but I’m ngl that trailer is awesome. I’m on board

[spark nexus]

Doom remasters don't make sense. everyone plays with source ports

[elder viper]

Having access to Andrew Hulshults remake is a cool feature

Console players

[spark nexus]

console players already have 1 remaster

[elder viper]

and they might get another

[spark nexus]

To be honest, I don’t like consoles. Because of them, the entire gaming industry is going backwards

[spark nexus]

For what? no need to spoil Robert Prince's vision of doom soundtrack. He has already made a perfect remaster of his tracks.

[atomic compass]

KEX Engine seems better

Unity wrapper source port was underwhelming

[bright finch]

unity is wopper

[atomic compass]

No we dont

its only the Unity wrapper which is underwhelming, PLUS NEW DOOM 1 EPISODE: LEGACY OF RUST

[bright finch]

and Sigil

[dapper veldt]

That's complete bullshit
DOOM on consoles is the reason why i'm a fan of DOOM

[modest tartan]

Consoles are important for gaming due to being the cheaper, much less of a hassle option

If games were locked to only pcs, this industry would be in a much different place rn

[dapper veldt]

And it's the reason why ||Hugo martin got INTO DOOM
Since his first DOOM game is DOOM 64||

[reef lodge]

"Culture shouldn't exist only for those who can afford it"
-. Arsi "Hakita" Patala

[elder viper]

60FPS widescreen support right?

[atomic compass]

Yes

[elder viper]

I think the trailer mentioned something like that

[atomic compass]

and for 4K also 120 FPS support, insane

[elder viper]

Fuck yessssss

Unity don’t have that

[reef lodge]

60FPS was in the Unity version too, btw

[bright finch]

And a apple

[elder viper]

It doesn’t ‘spoil’ anything it’s a toggle able feature

Both soundtracks are good

[reef lodge]

Also the original version is not a "perfect remaster", that is not what a remaster is at all

[atomic compass]

I don't want to hear anyone say anything about Unity version anymore, Unity port is dead

[elder viper]

The Unity port has too little features in its options menu this new version seems to have a lot more which is great.

[atomic compass]

KEX Engine superiority

[bright finch]

Gentlemen please do not argue about doom. atleast we get more content and shit.

[atomic compass]

yes

[left finch]

KEX Flex

[reef lodge]

I honestly still hope you can play the Unity version somewhere, preservation is important

[bright finch]

SEX engine

[atomic compass]

I kinda do agree but for the most part, admittedly it's dead

[bright finch]

We have the SEX engine port, we gotta be happy. its the sex update

[reef lodge]

It's dead, it's inferior, but it's important

[low forge]

the remaster is already released

it's a shame

the most undeveloped remaster of all three

I'm now ashamed to even play doom 1

They also additionally deleted all previous game files

Now I can't just forget about it and start playing gzdoom

I need to reinstall all the mods and all the sourceports that I had

and play separately from the steam version

[elder viper]

What? Why?

[fair bobcat]

lol, why the hell are people being so dramatic?

A really good Nightdive version instead of a weird Unity-wrapped version.... is a good thing right?

[feral plover]

Wolfenstein 3D Remasrer (jk)

[low forge]

after the release of the nd port, I realized that the unity port was not so bad.

but that's not even the problem. It wouldn't be dramatic if you could just give it up. I just want to have the game "DOOM (1993)" with the same files on my account.
I don't want to have to re-work with the files again to get any fun from doom 1.

[fair bobcat]

Those files are still in a separate folder of "Doom and Doom II"

But understand that them combining Doom 1 and 2 is a bit annoying

Although understandable as their codebase nowadays is likely identical, also the assets. So, from a developer-perspective it would be logical to combine them

[spark nexus]

Damn, we only got the third one

I didn't like the remaster. this is the worst thing ND could do. Why was it necessary to combine all the games into one? What is this cringe name "DOOM 1 + DOOM 2"?

[feral plover]

Doom 2.5

[feral plover]

Doom 64 will get online multiplayer like how 1+2 are getting

[reef lodge]

Source?

[feral plover]

trust

it's my copium filled prediction

cause i know it will never happen

[sweet shell]

I sure hope it does so I can randomly log in to see an empty server list like any other game unfortunaly

[crimson halo]

the past

[carmine hazel]

https://tenor.com/view/edp445-gif-25615015

[tranquil fiber]

doom 2016 remaster without ID Tech 6 Mega-Textures runs on ID Tech 7 with ray tracing 4k 60fps + official mod tools

[fair bobcat]

Don't see that ever happening honestly...

[wintry vigil]

mario

[feral plover]

Well now that we have doom eternal mod support, we can just do that in doom eternal

[tranquil fiber]

omg 10,000 iq play

the entirety of doom 2016 in eternal.

[feral plover]

I hope someone makes a mod to give eternal 2016’s atmosphere. Make it darker, remove the arcade colorful pickups, make it so you get your weapons off of fallen soldiers, all that.

[elder viper]

Did the game get official mod support?

[elder viper]

It doesn’t need a remaster

[tranquil fiber]

yes it does. the game is getting old and boring. eternal made 2016 look ancient

doom 2016 is old school doom yes

[elder viper]

no it’s not

[tranquil fiber]

dude. 2016 was almost 10 years ago. in 2 years doom 2016 will be considered retro

[elder viper]

Doesn’t mean it NEEDS a remaster. It still looks great and plays well. It doesn’t need to be moved to an entirely new engine

[tranquil fiber]

mega-textures has dated the game a bit.

[elder viper]

Not by much that it needs a remaster

[nova marsh]

https://tenor.com/view/fuwatti-ao-oni-purple-monster-monsters-inc-plap-gif-12258308205272905323

[chrome gyro]

ok so, the gta trilogy got a remaster, the remaster wasnt needed and the older versions are better, if they remastered 2016 it would probably turn out weird and buggy or just bad.

and plus i think doom 2016 looks better than eternal.

[reef lodge]

2016 in general doesn't need a remaster

Also games generally turn retro 15 years after release, not 10

[chrome gyro]

exactly, plus i dont know how else they could remaster it without changing alot of stuff.

[reef lodge]

They could just give it a graphical overhaul, which, once again, it does not need

But some QOL features could be well-seen as an update, not a whole entire remaster

[chrome gyro]

but even then we have mods so if some one wanted to they could add small stuff in

[chrome gyro]

i still think that 2016 looks better than eternal

[reef lodge]

Console players:

[chrome gyro]

yeah but like, modern doom on consoles isnt that fun compared to pc

[reef lodge]

I have no idea what makes you say that, it's pretty fun

[chrome gyro]

the controls

like its still great but i prefer pc controls