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woven siren
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it's essentially just a close-range spread-shot weapon and a rapid-fire projectile weapon

austere cypress
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A lot of FPS games do, but the DOOM Plasma Rifle is the most beautiful weapon in gaming history

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Other than the Plasma Repeater from Halo

clear prism
austere cypress
clear prism
formal solar
elder viper
atomic compass
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Olay but Doom 2016/Eternal plasma > Doom 3 plasma

worn cloud
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That'd be interesting!

austere cypress
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for most games, remakes are unnecessary. but it would be so unique for the old DOOM games, considering how dated they are.

solar crown
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old doom games dated? what?
they have hold up amazingly wtfdym

worn cloud
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They actually really do, the only thing I think they need at this point is a map maker mode like 2016

solar crown
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isn't OG doom so wel known how to mod it that maps aren't hard to make

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a snapmap like map maker would only needlessly limit you on how to make maps

worn cloud
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Yeah, but I'm REALLY lazy, so it's gotta come pre-installed as a mode with the game.

austere cypress
solar crown
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maybe some levels could look better but it's really not bad by today's standards

austere cypress
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They definitely still do hold up to retro shooter graphics, I just want to see them under the latest ID Tech engine (not pixelated). I’ve always wanted to see it just out of curiosity

solar crown
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look at eternal, it'll look like that

austere cypress
coarse kernel
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invasion mode when

winter nexus
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Right, movie time.

tiny estuary
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I'm not sure what i want out of a third Doom game. I feel like 2016 and Eternal both went for different goals, and each succeeded at what they set out to do. I will say, maybe if they do a story, there should be a creative way to skip story scenes by puching a shut up button to make Doomguy do some stuff to shut the other characters up and get a move on

atomic compass
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interesting but silly

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I have a theory of what id could be doing for Doom Year Zero (if it is still going by that name)

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So what I noticed upon the title "Doom Year Zero" is that I got reminded of the fifth Quake episode (under the expansion name "Dimension of the Past") that was developed by MachineGames for Quake 1's 20th anniversary

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The final level is named "The Year Zero" in the expansion

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So some things could be said here

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  1. Doom could have a crossover with Quake (which would be huge, but is it possible?)
  2. The third game takes place in the Quake 1 universe as a continuation
  3. Quake Ranger is a vital role in the third installment of the new Doom game, which some said it's a reboot of Doom 64 considering Doom (2016) is a reboot of Doom 1, and Doom Eternal is a reboot of Doom 2
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I may be going of the rails on these but these are just a theory

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a GAME theory

novel knot
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Speaking of theories, what’s your personal DOOM timeline that you believe in?

restive estuary
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I believe that tnt and plutonia you play as doomguy himself

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And that doomguy found himself in D'nur after doom 64

atomic compass
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But if I do say that, this will mean Quake 2 and 4 will also be canon as well

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I want to believe it but I'm not sure if I could necessarily

atomic compass
novel knot
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I haven’t played all the games, so I don’t know if this makes any sense, but this is what I believe:
-Doom 3 is a prequel
-Doom 1-64 take place over just a few years
-Doom Slayer spends eons in Hell, but since time flows differently in Hell, it’s only a year or two on earth
-Doom 2016 and Eternal take place over another couple years

atomic compass
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To me it's this:

  1. Doom 1 with Sigil 1 and 2
  2. Doom 2, and No Rest For the Living, Final Doom not included
  3. Doom 64 and the Lost Levels
  4. Doom 3 (different Doomguy; John Kane)
  5. Doom 3: Resurrection of Evil (prequel to Doom 2016)
  6. Doom (2016, and back to the original Doomguy, now Doomslayer)
  7. Doom Eternal
  8. Doom Eternal: TAG 1/2
  9. Doom Year Zero next probably?
woven siren
woven siren
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doomguy goes to africa to fix up some UAC experiments gone wrong isn't THAT implausible

woven siren
silent tiger
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ayo guys

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who like ultrakill

woven siren
silent tiger
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k

woven siren
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not yet done with act 2 though 😬 , i wanted to p-rank all of act 1 first b4 moving on

silent tiger
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first i'll pass without records

woven siren
silent tiger
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oops

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my native language is Russian, I often make mistakes when I write in English

silent tiger
winter nexus
novel knot
novel knot
woven siren
silent tiger
woven siren
novel knot
winter nexus
woven siren
woven siren
winter nexus
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I don't think id really thought it through when they authorised them as cannon.

woven siren
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lmao yeah

winter nexus
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I mean they're decent wads but I'd definitely have thought twice about TNT.

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I've heard people saying that they consider Doom 64 as the real Doom 3, to which I usually ask "but what does that make Final Doom?" However, realistically, I felt that Final Doom was just another mapset like any other and not particularly anything special. I think they just came along at the right time and id Software thought "wow, that's almost the length of an actual game" and so tagged it and bagged it so be sold with royalties, perhaps jumping the gun.

woven siren
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so far i've only seen the binding of isaac (and id, of course) do it, as well as minecraft in some form (minecraft moreso just implements concepts from fan content rather than the content itself)

winter nexus
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I used to use DoomEd but I don't think I'd remember how to use it now.

elder viper
winter nexus
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But if I could, I'd probably remake the whole of Catacomb 3D in Doom-style.

winter nexus
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Unless I'm misunderstanding you, QDoom allows you to play Doom using Quake enemies.

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Or actually it's more like you can play Doom maps in Quake, because it runs through Quake, not through Doom, so it's on the Quake engine.

elder viper
winter nexus
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Ah

elder viper
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Ive said this before but what if Hell was a neccesary evil to keep her forces away from everything else and with Hell sealed theres nothing stopping her

winter nexus
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As long as she doen't bring those bloody Vors with her.

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Or the things that bounce up and down.

elder viper
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If there are beings above Davoth I dont see why there cant be a world that poses a greater threat then Hell

elder viper
winter nexus
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I mean I wouldn't have imagined that the Quake enemies would be greater than the Doom enemies in the grand scheme of things.

low forge
elder viper
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But idk give them some buffs. Quake 1 is such a bare bone world you could really take a bunch of creative liberties

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Seeing a modernized Shambler would be cool though

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A modernized Vor would be terrifying

feral plover
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A future doom game that takes place before doom eternal and the protagonist is a guy trying to protect his family from demons that are starting to invade. The demons look scarier cus doom slayer got used to what they looked like so they don't look as scary, but not to a regular guy. It would almost be like doom 3 with the atmosphere

elder viper
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Resident Doom

feral plover
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Kinda yeah

elder viper
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a slower paced title like Doom 3 would be interesting to see

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cause Doom 3 slaps

feral plover
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And the demons are starting to invade, and the more days go by, the worse the demons

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So just imagine playing and you walk by an alley way and you see a big yellow eye, then, a fire ball

winter nexus
winter nexus
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You know I wrote that as one sentence and it was blocked for containing suggestive terminology.

feral plover
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Or something that takes place before doom 2016, you play as the maker of some of the weapons for the uac, get a machine to make em and test em out on demons that crawled out while getting that sweet sweet hell energy blah blah then he turns out to be later on to be the first demon you kill at the start of doom 2016

elder viper
# winter nexus Davoth seems like a higher power than Shub.

Davoth has beings above him. Lovecrafts whole things was these omnipotent higher beings. and Shub has cool nicknames like "The Black Goat of the Woods with a Thousand Young" it makes sense for her and possibly other Lovecraft deities to be what exists above Davoth.

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also Davoths a little bitch and a pushover

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idc if he's canonically "God" hes lame af

atomic compass
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I hardly was scared, the only time I got jumpscared was from the ||trite crawling out of a monitor||

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Doom 3 was average for the most part and I can see that the id team put effort into it, but WOW does it get repetitive and boring

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RoE doesn’t help with that, to me it got worse as the artifact function had to be used CONSTANTLY as if you were in the Matrix or something

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If I could go back in time to not play Doom 3, I definitely would tbh

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Because I felt like I wasted time playing it

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Again, game is not horrible, it’s just that it tried to be something when it wasn’t supposed to be, and felt out of style and weird because of it

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I think Doom 64 did a WAY better job in my personal opinion cause that OST alone made me feel uneasy

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Way more than what Doom 3 did, which was hardly AT ALL

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If you make a horror game, and somehow NOT manage to scare someone, you messed up big time

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But then again thats just me

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And also the UAC levels in Doom 3, forgettable

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Hell levels? FUN

restive estuary
fast wren
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Well we can't go further and wake up Slayer again. But I think good idea is to go back, to Slayer past.

Back to times before 2016 and after Slayer was captured and brought before the Order of the Deag.

I would like to see Slayer first trainings, wars and moment of gaining his incredible power. And of course moment when he was entombed within a sarcophagus.

merry depot
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^^^ THIS YES!!! ^^^

wet kiln
solar crown
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it would definitely need a game, maybe 2 to lead up to it. solely cause otherwise it will be pretty shit story telling

meager relic
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is there gunna be more doom games?

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???

solar crown
meager relic
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damn i rlly want more doom games

mint plinth
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more doom games when

tiny estuary
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I’m sure Id Software will make a third Doom game eventually

tiny estuary
winter nexus
atomic compass
atomic compass
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And who knows what Doom Year Zero (if that's the name they're still going for) will bring as Doom Eternal is literally near perfection in gameplay

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Doom Year Zero might as well be the most perfect game in existence once it is released because again, DYZ was supposed to be released this year based on Microsoft's report, and 2024 was supposed to have DLC come as well

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But it seems that DYZ might be released in 2024 or 2025 most likely, who knows

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They had time and still have time to make changes for it to become probably the best video game in existence

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I'm excited to see what QuakeCon 2024 will have, maybe they might show it

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Maybe it will be shown in the Game Awards just like Sonic Frontiers did, again who knows

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I do have my own theories of what DYZ could have, but it's a multitude of possibilities that id may never even consider, some I've said in this channel alone

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but again, who knows. None of us knows anything about the new game because nothing has been said about it from id of Bethesda's behalf, all we know is that it's name was shown in that Microsoft report

torn plaza
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I hope that the next doom game will add a multiplayer campaign

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It will be like a normal doom game but you can have friends in it

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And it’s probably going to be Xbox exclusive

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What fun

elder viper
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They bought Bethesda so by extension own Doom, Quake, Wolfenstein, The Elder Scrolls, Fallout, etc etc etc

cloud ferry
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Hola?

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Hola

solar crown
fallen marsh
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They don't 😔

fallen marsh
tiny estuary
lapis swan
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we can only hope

solar crown
verbal storm
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Yes. Fallout 76: November 14, 2018. Eternal: March 20, 2020

elder viper
verbal storm
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Yep, they never will make a Doom game, only if Todd Howard makes a bad business decision, or even worse.

tiny estuary
atomic compass
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well yeah the recent acquisition made MS acquire Actvision, Bethesda, King, and others

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so MS owns Doom, and could expand upon it if they so wish

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Whether that would be good or bad is a discussion for you guys

solar crown
atomic compass
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Yeah but the DOJ or whatever US government body managed to make it come through finally after all of that time

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which was this year

solar crown
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wasn't that just for activision, not bethesda

atomic compass
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who knows

solar crown
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well, every article that talks about it?

atomic compass
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I mean I forget it was months ago at this point

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if anything else happens then it will be there for people to talk about

meager relic
modern sorrel
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So, I was thinking... Chaingunners. I hate 'em. You hate 'em. Or maybe you don't, maybe I don't either. But if a future Doom game had a chaingunner enemy of some kind, how could they be made into an enemy that's fun to fight?

atomic compass
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Make them have a temporary cooldown after about 15 shots or so so it's not bullshit

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I mean think about this, I think the chaingunner was so hated by Hugo that he didn't even want to add them in Doom Eternal

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Considering how difficult (debatable) that game can be

tiny estuary
lavish vale
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I know it's weird, but if Hugo said that their next Doom game is gonna "hit like a truck than fly like a bird", we're going to have a game that is ground-based in gameplay with punchier gun sfx and has a much more emphasis on melee combat.

That would serve as a contrast to Doom Eternal's gameplay where you leap from one position of the arena to another while relying on ranged weapons. Hence, "Hit like a truck than fly like a bird"

winter nexus
lavish vale
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Though I have a feeling that he's going to look like the Space Marines from Warhammer 40K, yours would make sense. Are there any more that the Doom Slayer is not going to have in the next doom game apart from what I've mentioned?

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Some argue that he would no longer move the same way he did in Eternal. But my brother in Urdak, he has that kind of mobility since Doom 1-2-64.

woven siren
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so if you're strafing consistently you'll dodge their hits

winter nexus
# lavish vale Though I have a feeling that he's going to look like the Space Marines from Warh...

I mean I did hear one YouTuber say that the next game would have you move more like a tank, but I'm sure it was just speculation. I'd imagine you'd be able to upskill and add extra speed or whetever somehow. I mean on the whole, I can't see many people wanting the next game of any franchise to be slower than the last, could you imagine them putting the breaks on Sonic the Hedgehog for the next game and how many units they wouldn't sell as a result? I've got no problem with the Warhammer look, I think it's dope AF but I don't want it to be too obvious, Doom should have its own aesthetic.

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The only way around the speed issue would be if they went back to the whole survival horror genre, or based on the title that's being thrown around, it could be a prequel of sorts which is either pre-praetor suit or features a slower prototype of the praetor suit, although we pretty much saw the suit's ancestor in the Wolfenstein series. Contrary to popular opinion, I've always been a proponent of the "Call of Doom" idea where you play as Earth's human resistance, a little like in Fallout, Metro or Terminator Resistance, which would generally not likely feature the Doom Slayer, but could possibly have him as a background character that you hear rumors of, battling Hell while on Earth and your character kind of arrives on scene a short while afterwards, having just missed him, or slightly before, so he's kinda like the boogeyman.

lavish vale
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I'm in for a Doom spinoff where you play as one of the remaining humans on earth purging the remaining forces of hell.

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I'm also curious to see what happens to the UAC, as they have vaguely left the fate of the company unanswered after The Ancient Gods.

spark verge
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some people Ive talked to think if they did something like that, it would be a good idea to have the gameplay loop a bit more like the original games, and include more exploration/scavenging in that way

solar crown
winter nexus
foggy seal
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and then let Frank Klepacki do the soundtrack

boreal crane
winter nexus
boreal crane
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true wasn’t that idea around fallouts peak ?

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that’s prob why Hugo scrapped it

winter nexus
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Yeah, they had Rage at that time too.

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I thought it was pre-Hugo though.

boreal crane
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i’m not sure

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is doom eternal or doom 2016 more played

high stratus
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At least pre-game director hugo

winter nexus
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I mean Hugo was only an art director or something to begin with anyway.

boreal crane
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there’s a sale on the microsoft store with 4 doom games including 2016 doom and the original ones

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i might buy it but i’ve seen how doom 2016 looks like and it doesn’t look pretty in my opinion compared to eternal

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but i’m tempted to try it and learn the new combat mechanics

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i’m just so used to eternal and i’ve been playing it for almost 4 years

winter nexus
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I mean the aesthetic of Doom 2016 is the same as Eternal, the only difference is that there are more different environments in Eternal. Same production design and artwork style though.

boreal crane
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but what do you think, are there more players active on eternal or
2016

winter nexus
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Eternal

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But I'm more of a campaign gamer when it comes to Doom.

boreal crane
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are the multiplayer queues empty for 2016 ?

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same i’ve only played battle mode 3 times over the past 3-4 years

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if they added slayer vs slayer as a last update then i would go back

winter nexus
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I don't know, if you go into the 2016 channel, there are sometimes people looking for games, but they come few and far between.

boreal crane
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wait is doom eternal not receiving anymore updates ?

winter nexus
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I played only once or twice, it didn't stimulate me the same way that Team Deathmatch did.

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No more DLC, but I don't know if they're still giving support for the game, patches etc.

boreal crane
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i heard a rumor that there was supposed to be tag 3 lmao

winter nexus
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Nah

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TAG2 was wrapped up. If you've played it, you'll know what I mean.

boreal crane
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i know

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been playing eternal since basically release

winter nexus
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But Samuel Hayden's still alive.

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And I'm guessing that the Father is still at large. Although his soul sphere's been destroyed, I had this idea that he could infect computers like a virus, the Fortress of Doom for example and take control of the Slayer's Mech/Atlan thing that he's building near the Ripatorium.

boreal crane
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is he still alive conciously ?

winter nexus
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Yeah, I mean he beamed Samr Makyr to safety after the Doom Slayer defeated him in TAG1.

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He said that his death isn't necessary.

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And then in TAG2, when Davoth tells you that he's actually the Creator, he tells the Father to tell the Slayer and the Father then explains that Davoth was his Creator.

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So he's still alive right up to the end of TAG2.

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As a hard drive or something or a micro chip, I'm useless with tech.

boreal crane
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was doomguys tomb placed on top of the mountain thing in the blood swamps like the life spheres

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that would mean someone formidable like him would have to complete the trials

high stratus
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Either that or something with access to the spheres

boreal crane
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i don’t think any god would come to seek doom guys tomb

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in the first place it was by humans who first found his original tomb in 2016

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unless they were under orders from samuel hayden

winter nexus
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I mean maybe a battle-hardened warhorse like Commander Valen or someone.

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I mean even though Davoth had a soul sphere, if I remember correctly, the whole soul sphere think was invented by the Makyrs, they could probably make new ones or something.

elder viper
next oxide
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“In case of demon invasion, open the casket.”

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Basically that :p

solar crown
bitter socket
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Why didn't they add TAG demons to the ripatorium that would've made the base color to revisit in my opinion, but last I even played I couldn't even find the freaking trophy room

solar crown
mint plinth
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they should of added tag demons to base game Master Levels. that would of been fun

vocal dawn
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They should do tf2 but with knight sentinels

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That be cool

brittle echo
silk rapids
foggy seal
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not funny

didn't laugh

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back to discussion, implications of gods beyond has tons of potential for surreal locations to explore and look at and even weirder enemy designs

glass monolith
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i understand the new enemys and beautiful locations

foggy seal
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that's also up in the air

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anyway, I think next game (whenever it gonna come out) is probably gonna be their most ambitious project yet

glass monolith
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if its to much more complex than eternal then there will be much less players

foggy seal
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dunno how complex it would be but all we know is that it's gonna take different direction from Eternal

glass monolith
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so do you know this from leaks or r u a dev or like how do you know

foggy seal
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recent leaks were nothing more than outdated by now information but gameplay is going from words of Hugo Martin himself, i think it was an interview, with small hints at what to possibly expect from next game

mint plinth
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I still think it is a Quake "reboot" within the Doom universe. Plot: Crash (DoomGirl) in search of her father (Ranger/Q1Guy) who was lost after entering the Slip Gate created by the Strogg.

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or just a new doom game

foggy seal
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I'm totally up for Quake reboot with a campaign, which we haven't seen since 2005

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honestly quake not having concrete and solidified identity in itself leaves incredible room for experimenting with what could be done

solar crown
brittle echo
tiny estuary
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In a hypothetical third Doom game, they need to make Doom guy reach a new level of not giving a fuck

solar crown
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we already have a third doom game though

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it's called doom 64

lethal swan
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there is literally a game called doom 3

solar crown
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which is the 4th doomgame

lethal swan
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no doom 64 is the 64th clearly

solar crown
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surely kappa

elder viper
tiny estuary
lethal swan
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this user does not know

tiny estuary
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No i do

elder viper
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Bro for sure does not know

cinder dock
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Whenever ID software make another DOOM Game.
They can make the pain elemental equip with firearms.

feral plover
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So where do you guys think Doom will go from here?

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Everything truly ended in Ancient Gods Part2

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So how would another Doom even happen?
Wouldn’t make sense if the demons just came back out of nowhere

tiny estuary
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They could make Doomguy reach a new level of not giving a fuck /ref

abstract lotus
lethal swan
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i wish there was a doom spinoff where you play as a sentinel

elder viper
solar crown
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or they make a dumb workaround like "well, synthetic demons can still raze outside hell!!!"

next oxide
remote ginkgo
atomic compass
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who knows really

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we know nothing

solar crown
lethal swan
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from hell

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maybe doom 3 kinda beat

cinder dock
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That's honestly cool, I hope they dive into that concept.

hasty tinsel
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Hello every one. I have a question regarding the doom eternal collectible mini figures. Do you remember those? My question is: does anyone know if bethesda will eventually resume selling the remaining figures. They suddenly stopped selling them and I really need to know if the plan is to not continue with the collection. If that the case, I would like to sell the ones I have because having the incomplete collection really bothers me.

woven siren
feral plover
woven siren
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🙄

foggy seal
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the joke

winter nexus
winter nexus
foggy seal
atomic compass
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if the next game is either Doom or Quake, I'm still down to play either one

mint plinth
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besides they mention a faction of primeval demons that made Davoth. Whatever that means ....

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I still think they are giong to do a prequel due to the leak named ZERO.

elder viper
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Or are they gonna pull some shit like with VEGA where “You see he wasn’t actually God so here’s Super God who IS actual God”

solar crown
foggy seal
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it should be obvious that we're most likely gonna be diving deeper into lovecraftian stuff considering this

elder viper
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Lovecraft stuff would be perfect to for mega god stuff if they are going that route

foggy seal
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also someone in this channel said about blueprints for demons and stuff which is pretty logical to be part of what to expect since that way demons are still present and can be even more unhinged, despite hell being sealed after tag2

solar crown
foggy seal
elder viper
mint plinth
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Ultra Mega God, who is still ruled by the Super Mega Ultra Demon God

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And even he has a boss, the Super Duper Mega Ultra Ancient Old One ...God

mint plinth
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january 18th, XBOX "Direct" might get a sneak peak for what Id is working on.

shadow vale
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oo

mint plinth
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but probably not

cunning anvil
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As far as the future, I'd like to see what happens Between Doom 64 and Doom 2016, and then I'd like to see what happens between Doom 2016 and Doom Eternal

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Just to complete the storyline and give us a better idea of just how powerful the Doomguy is

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And maybe sometime down the line Id remakes Doom 1, 2 and 64 in the style that we know today

marble shale
solar crown
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I'd rather havr new stuff and have the inbetween stuff be relegated to comics n stuff

mint plinth
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that is Doom 2016 -> Doom Eternal plot holes

woven siren
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comics, maybe a cool short animation if they have the resources, stuff like that

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id could just like. make a cool classic doom partial conversion wad, that would be sick and wouldn't take much effort

solar crown
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considering it's just story stuff, that sounds too hard to make a proper story thing for

woven schooner
woven siren
foggy seal
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i could somewhat see one for 64 but for 1 & 2 we already got 2016 (which also covers for 3) and eternal so it doesn't really make much sense either way, classic games are still great experience

solar crown
woven siren
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yuh

atomic compass
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Doom 3 is more like a Doom 1 remake

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Honestly still not quite, but it’s a reboot

mint plinth
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Doom 2016 is closer to a Doom 3 remake

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Classic Doom had three very different settings, 4th if you count earth

solar crown
cosmic ember
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only thing 2016 and 3 have in common is the gritty setting

mint plinth
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about as far if not farther than saying Doom 3 is aremake of classic

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just saying that none of these are remakes, just reboots

abstract lotus
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A mechanic for the new Doom game, maybe it's trash and OP, or maybe it's well done, but I thought I could share the idea, and maybe devs add something similar.
Special Glory Kills, a mechanic that if you do the right steps before killing a staggered demon, a special glory kill appears and could give:
x2 health
armor
2-4 shotgun shells
15-20 bullets
15-20 cells
These are some examples of it if it was in DOOM Eternal:
DOOM Hunter: Damage the chainsaw arm enough with a certain weapon, and then when he's staggered and you kill him, the slayer grabs the chainsaw and kills the DOOM Hunter with it.
Marauder: Damage his left side, maybe with remote detonation or sticky bomb his feet, then when he's staggered and you do the grabbing-axe glory kill, the scene changes, while the slayer kicks the marauder in the chest multiple times while using Marauder's axe to decapitate him.
And so on. maybe they could make glory kills even more attractive, and enhance the ''Fun Zone'' gameplay by dragging you to stagger more demons.
It can be pretty OP, I know, but let me know what you think.

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does anyone think its possible for them to make a sequel to doom 3

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like a real sequel not the DLC they made

feral plover
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For the future of Doom, I’d love to see a new generation of Doom
To avoid retconning The Ancient Gods 2, we could have a new force of evil
Perhaps a primordial cosmic horror that is born from the hatred and negativity from not only humanity, but also the many other worlds within the universe (perhaps a Doom multiverse).
That way we would have a brand new Doom Slayer, a reincarnation of some kind
Which would lead to new lore, new weapons and new powers.

solar crown
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Or 1 kind of "technique"

elder viper
elder viper
nimble loom
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You never stop the demons from invading earth in the game

atomic compass
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There was an actual game called Doom 4 (while not being a sequel to Doom 3, it still was a rebooted Doom 2) being made from 2007 to 2012

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Then Hugo Martin stepped in and was like “What are we doing? This is not what Doom is”

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And they pulled the plug on that game and tried to make a new game instead and that ended up being Doom 2016

snow egret
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Hello everyone:) i just beat ultra nightmare! I hope their next game is Hexen

hasty rover
# elder viper Doubt. At this point in time it would be strange for them to return fully to the...

since doom 3 came out while "gritty realism" was popular i would think that they would continue with that theme. maybe something about doomguy gets crippled in some sort of way or something and because of that earth gets invaded and you have to play as a weakened doomguy for a part of the game. maybe his arm gets ripped off or something and he has to findsome sort of like replacement that could act like a plot device or something

elder viper
elder viper
hasty rover
atomic compass
atomic compass
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Like I get Doom 3 wasn't too focused with action, but this is part of the reason why Tom Hall was fired from id Software when making Doom 1

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He focused a bit too much on the story for a FPS game (at the time, which was primitive still)

atomic compass
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It's not worth making a a sequel to a game which to me is honestly a very average and mid game (Doom 3) compared to the others

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(wow my brain couldn't grammar with that message)

atomic compass
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or did I read Horde Mode Gaming's video wrong

elder viper
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Didn’t know there was one tbh

snow egret
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It's too bad duke nukem IP is probably forever ruined now, i was fantasizing about an ID duke nukem yesterday while playing eternal

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Arc Complex is very reminiscent of a duke level

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(visually)

atomic compass
feral plover
atomic compass
feral plover
# atomic compass Any proof?

Modern Doom lore references aspects of Doom 3's characters - a castle in the Blood Swamps is named after Betruger, and the Aranea Imperatrix is intentionally very similar to the Maledict as a lord of Hell that takes physical form after merging with a human.
Doom 3's Martians are described as a race of technologically advanced humanoids capable of teleportation who are the progenitors of the human race. This is exactly what the Argenta are - further, the Martians had a prophecized hero who vanquished the demons with the Soul Cube, who is shown to be the original Doomguy. This aligns with the Argenta lore portraying Doomguy as their savior and mightiest hero, and provides a possible reason as to how Doomguy got to Sentinel Prime.

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Specifically, Doom 2016 notes a portion of time where the Slayer was incapacitated in Kadingir Sanctum and thus couldn't fight Hell, being the Third Age. This is likely when Doom 3 takes place, from Hell's perspective.

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Additionally IIRC Hugo Martin once said "all numbered Doom games are canon" in a livestream or interview or something, but I don't have the source for that. I feel the evidence within the games is enough.

solar crown
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my favourite number from is rpg

atomic compass
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Plus we would’ve known the founder of the UAC in Doom 3 of this was the case; we don’t

feral plover
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There's that yeah, but honestly I always took it to be more an easter egg than the actual Soul Cube

solar crown
feral plover
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What Luci said.

atomic compass
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Thats what I’ve been trying to say this whole time

feral plover
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Doom 3's UAC ain't 2016's UAC, but both came into contact with the same Hell.

solar crown
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then how would we know the founder of the uac if they are connected?

atomic compass
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Sure, maybe it would’ve been cool if it was canon

solar crown
atomic compass
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I know that, yes Doom 1 through Eternal

solar crown
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doom1, 2, and 64 are their universe
doom 3 is a universe
2016 and eternal are a universe

they all share hell

feral plover
# atomic compass Thats what I’ve been trying to say this whole time

I feel like you're misunderstanding what I'm saying. I'm not saying Doom 3 happens in 2016's universe. I'm saying Doom 3 is canon to the Doon multiverse as a whole. It doesn't take place in 2016's universe but its Hell is the same Hell Doom 2016 has, and it's through that Doom 3 connects to other installments.

atomic compass
feral plover
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Doom 3 explicitly cannot happen in 2016's universe thanks to HydroCon. But it is canon to the wider Doom multiverse that 2016 and Eternal established.

atomic compass
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The multiverse though yeah I see that happening

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Do you know what would be cool

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If Doomslayer, John Kane, and the protag in Doom 3: RoE met together in hell

foggy seal
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I didn't really notice that until my UV marathon

high stratus
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They'll just (presumably) have more freedom going forward. Bobby Kotick has just left Activision and Phil Spencer has claimed that he wants to see more come from some of their underutilized studios, such as Raven

atomic compass
high stratus
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If cod starts going on a biyearly release schedule, teams like raven may finally have time to work on their own projects. I hope this is the case, it would greatly benefit the cod franchise and the studios behind it

atomic compass
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It's honestly best without Bobby around. He is the definition of corporate greed and filth in the gaming industry (and to when he worked at Activision during the 2021 sexism fiasco I won't get into). Without him and a new CEO, things could definitely turn around for the greater. I never want CoD to be bad; none of us did. It's just that when it was with Bobby from 2019 - 2023, things went up and down and then went dogshit. I hope the CoD games from this year (if there is any) and going forward to be quality over quantity.

high stratus
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I couldn't agree more. I would love to see cod make a solid comeback in the next few years, we haven't had a great game in ages. MW3 looked like a huge waste of time and I'm hoping they've learned their lesson (unlikely, but still)

atomic compass
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I think the main fault was with Bobby though

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He didn't let the devs have enough time in order to properly have a game out, evident with MWIII

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8 months, guess what other game was made in 8 months back in 1994 and was most certainly better? DOOM II

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Sure, different times and tech, but that doesn't matter

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Doom 2 has a better reputation than what MWIII had

high stratus
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A lot of games have a better reputation than MWIII lol

atomic compass
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I know like I think I would even enjoy Doom 3 more than MWIII, or even MWII for that matter

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despite how boring that game is

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Hell, outside of id I think I'd like Final Fantasy I more

high stratus
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I'm hesitant to dump all the blame on Kotick, though. After everything that's come out about Activision in recent years it unfortunately seems like the greed and misconduct goes far deeper than the top of the food chain

atomic compass
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I mean I could possibly see that, maybe there is some more corruption here more than what was in the higher ups?

high stratus
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Who knows at this point. I just wish the best for the developers and hope the future of Activision is brighter than it has been

feral plover
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It's one of the reasons I prefer Eternal.

atomic compass
feral plover
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Not really. Doom 3 has loads of text and PDA info detailing the UAC's operations, to the point of an exhaustive list of personnel who work there and a very detailed timeline as to the UAC's operations on Mars and how they came to discover Hell - and what its consequences were.

atomic compass
feral plover
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I've read them back-to-front several times.

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2016, by comparison, doesn't put that much attention to detail into its personal timeline. It's left unclear as to how a lot of the UAC's management actually works - what the fuck is the Blind Council, for example? The game never says anything about this.

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Certain characters also aren't as fleshed out, mainly Olivia Pierce, who pales in comparison to Malcolm Betruger in 3.

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Or, say, how Olivia Pierce was able to get as far as she did in accruing this cult in the Mars base when Hayden had such an iron grip over the facility, to the point superhuman guards were watching everyone and the whole of the staff was forced to have seven day work weeks. In 3, this is explained - Betruger is the head of the Mars base and is actively under investigation from an Earth-bound board of directors, who have arrived too late.

atomic compass
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🙄

feral plover
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Oh yeah, this also extends to the Argenta, who are given very little explanation in 2016 which meant Eternal had to pull the weight there.

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Hell there was that debate after 2016's release as to if the Slayer was the Betrayer or not. Talk about vague writing.

atomic compass
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It was not vague writing, I think they were intentionally leaving that out to ||reveal later in Eternal||

feral plover
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Speculation caused by vague writing, yeah.

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I don't think they had Eternal in mind when writing 2016 - otherwise they wouldn't have emphasized Hayden being human so hard when he ended up being essentially an archangel.

high stratus
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They certainly didn't

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Eternal has a small handful of quiet retcons and changes that don't make sense going under the assumption that they had both games planned out

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Like the Hayden thing

feral plover
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Yeah.

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This is not to say 2016 isn't a great game. It is. I'm just not impressed by its plot which is largely derivative of Doom 3. I prefer Eternal's which has more its own identity.

bold cedar
royal fiber
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The thing I like about Doom eternal is that it explores more of the slayers history, giving us an idea of what happened in the parts we missed

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I'm interested to see where the next game might take us tbh. If there even is another game. I hope so lmao I need more Rip and Tear. And I need more Mick Gordon lol

royal fiber
solar crown
royal fiber
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Do we have any idea who it would be? PLEASE be slaughter to prevail🤣🤣

solar crown
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Adam hulshult and david levy

woven siren
solemn crest
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I fear a fallout style Bethesda open world game

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it happened to halo it can happen to Doom

woven siren
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no please

hybrid bone
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@solemn crest id software knows what it's doing

elder viper
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Unless id Software closes down and Bethesda gets full control of Doom it’ll never happen

mint plinth
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a Metroid Prime esq linear wide style Doom might work though.

royal fiber
woven siren
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smth like industrial meshuggah would be better (ideally i'd like industrial bdm but eh)

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but eh sure i guess, stp's also chuggy and downtuned

clear prism
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:( no linky

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QUAKE 6 TEASE IN INDIANA JONES TRAILER

mint plinth
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Yah but ... Machine Games making it? I would be fine with that

clear prism
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I love id but tbh I suspect machinegames can make a better q6 than id ever could

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Dimension of the machine and call of the machine are the best quake content since the original

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Also they better make those expansions cannon. smh.

solar crown
clear prism
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I mean, the series have always been similar, i guess?

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But newdoom gameplay is pretty distinct from quake

solar crown
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and even more distinct from doom

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it has wayyyy more things inspired by quake even

clear prism
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In any case I hope that this new quake doesn't try to drastically reinvent the gameplay

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I hope the general gameplay loop is just like quake and quake II

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Quake really doesn't need to be rebooted the way doom did imo

atomic compass
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man quake 6

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I'm gonna guess what it will be about

  • The long awaited sequel to Quake 1
  • Reboot, but they haven't thought of a new name yet
  • New setting? hopefully not considering the ambiguity of the series
foggy seal
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quake 6????? where's 5

tidal anchor
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i played quake three on the dreamcast one time

atomic compass
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I mean if you think about it ANY Quake game can be a sequel (in name only)

foggy seal
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still a good time, just recently reinstalled after getting better hardware

atomic compass
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it's a different title

halcyon scarab
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Next doom will be Doom Zero: Eternal Forever, who knows

hasty rover
hasty rover
mint plinth
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Doom 666

shadow vale
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doom 666 even doomiererer

elder viper
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Not to say there Quake expansions where bad they where really good. It just doesn’t really prove they could “make a better q6 then id EVER could”

clear prism
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But also honey and terra were made by a senior level designer at mg and those slap

clear prism
clear prism
atomic compass
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Imagine if he fought Cthulhu

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Which that’s not really much of a far fetched idea, or maybe Azathoth as an even crazier idea

clear prism
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THATS WHAT IM SAYIN

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Quake champions has cthalha, which is like, basically cthulhu

atomic compass
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now we just need a fight with Azathoth in space and then we'd have an ending to the Quake 1 timeline

snow egret
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I wish ID was making Metroid prime 4 the ballista honestly feels like a plasma beam

solar crown
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ID isn't knowledgeable in metroidvanias, their level design is wayyy too linear for that

atomic compass
solar crown
snow egret
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Maybe but the movement upgrades and visuals would be so good for it

solar crown
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but would it be metroid?

snow egret
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People probably asked 'would it be Metroid?' when retro turned it from a 2d fast paced scroller to a tanky feeling FPS

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And it was one of the GOAT games

dense dirge
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🦀

woven siren
atomic compass
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Sandy Petersen left after Quake 2 or 3 iirc

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He was one of the OG map designers for Doom 1, 2, Quake 1

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I don’t know about Quake 2 or 3 though, but definitely not Doom 3 or Quake 4

mint plinth
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well i hope they announce the next game this year, maybe this summer. I need a year of hype and speculation

solar crown
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Meh i'd rather have rhe announcemenr be delayed so it'll release less then a year after it

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What's the point of hype if absolutely jack shit happens for acrual years???

elder viper
clear prism
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she shambler dance on my rocket launcher till i quake

hardy maple
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You know we were so close to Doom Year Zero,but the thought of another Quake game is just as lit

mint plinth
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we might be getting both

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Doom from Id and Quake from machine

winter nexus
# mint plinth Doom from Id and Quake from machine

Possibly but they'll still likely be at least six months apart with their releases. Last I heard, Machine Games were working on some Indiana Jones stuff, so I only hope they can handle the capacity for a full Quake game for a much smaller team.

elder viper
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MachineGames needs to finish there Wolfenstein stuff first anyway

winter nexus
feral lake
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if it ain't Wolfenstein, then it'd be pretty safe to say they're done with it

foggy seal
low forge
low forge
atomic compass
low forge
atomic compass
low forge
atomic compass
low forge
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doom 2 is still the worst game created by id software

atomic compass
low forge
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also confirmation of my speculations by Sandy Petersen on Twitter

snow egret
elder viper
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Doom II gave us the Super Shotgun, new monsters that are now iconic to the franchise, and some great new tracks

atomic compass
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I would argue Doom 3 is the worst imo

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I'm going to be honest, the game is okay and there is hardly anything wrong with it

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But the execution was terrible, id tried too hard on being realistic with the game and ended up alienating from what they were

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But, thankfully Hugo Martin solved that

elder viper
# atomic compass I would argue Doom 3 is the worst imo

Eh idk abt that. Doom II is the worst but it’s not a bad game. Tbh Doom 3 isn’t even all that slow once you get to the actual demon invasions part. You can still play it similarly to the classics and have a great time

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also has the best version of the Plasma Rifle imo

atomic compass
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Doom 3 also failed as being a horror game to me as I only got scared ONCE in the game and the game was the most boring out of all of them

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Also the FUCK is that shotgun spread

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Plus it's shown as a sequel in number when it isn't

I know the Quake series also does that, but in a different way

Final Fantasy is unrelated but also similar in terms of new entries

low forge
low forge
low forge
snow egret
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nah, duke nukem owns

elder viper
low forge
# elder viper nah, it aint that bad

you're wrong. The new textures are very unpleasant, they somehow look crooked, they don’t fit into the overall style of the game. new demons only slow down the gameplay. most often it is not pleasant to kill them (due to their design). they make you hide. new levels are disgusting (absolutely everything). here they are not divided into good and bad, they are divided into unplayable and playable. There is absolutely no detail. even the first level is literally just 2 large rooms connected by a corridor.

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Even the level numbering system is boring.

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what is this map01,02?

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the game is too continuous

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Even mods for doom 2 can't save the situation. Megawads for doom 2 are divided into 2 types: 1. just a wad with 32 levels, with a level design from I'd software in 1993. 2. wad with titanic detail (like eviternity). the first is just a dull addition to the already bad doom 2. the second - most often has boring levels that are artificially drawn out thanks to crowds of enemies.

dry condor
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Somebody enjoying shooting high tier demons with shotgun in e4m1 or e4m6 i guess and got zapped by fiery boys in doom2

low forge
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e4 was created after doom 2

elder viper
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A lot of the new textures are better then the old game (i.e Doom II's blood texture compared to Classic Dooms blood texture)

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not to mention its not like Classic Doom doesnt have its faults a lot of Episdoe 3 is just poorly designed with levels like e3m2, e3m8, e3m7, and the topic of poor levels, e2m9 is horrendously bad

dry condor
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I bet he didnt even tried pistol starting w/ fast monsters or on nm with 100%

foggy seal
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such hilarious walls of text, i get doom 2 was kinda raw but there's a reason people still make wads for it you know

low forge
low forge
low forge
low forge
low forge
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You cant make a good doom 2 wad

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Its just impossible

foggy seal
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cope harder 👍

dry condor
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Let's find how much there are wads for doom1 and for doom2 exclusively

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I remember only ado2002 for doom1

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Yep its good but low variety in monsters, lack of mega sphere, ssg makes doom1 suck

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Also yep, what kind of nice design you talking about? Spam of tech base? Spam of fireblu and wood in e3 and e4??

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Green marble spam maybe?

dry condor
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Mediocre nice wads, is this a joke for you? Or we pushing u into playing okuplok or tarachillax dunno

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I guess its a personal trouble if u cant find good wads

low forge
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dry condor
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E3m3, e3m5, softlock possibility in e1m6, entire e4

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Poor set of textures

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Keep copingdealguy

feral plover
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Dellou is baiting.

elder viper
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Makes sense no way some genuinely has that dog shit of an opinion

low forge
feral plover
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I'm sure you did, sport.

low forge
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ohhhhh, the best arguments “you’re baiting” and “I’m sure”

low forge
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all of doom 2 levels is like e3m3 and e3m5, but several times worse

foggy seal
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very cool, you can write more walls of text with no substance now

low forge
foggy seal
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nonsense remains nonsense, doesn't matter who it's addressed to

low forge
foggy seal
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irony

woven siren
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irony (1)

snow egret
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This guy doesn't like duke nukem his opinion is invalid

lethal swan
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saying the ssg is mediocre

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yeah idk what this guy is talking about... ssg is literally the most fun to use and iconic weapon of the og dooms

solar crown
lethal swan
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doesnt being the most fun and iconic instantly discredit it being mediocre

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it is near or at the top for most people, meaning it is not mediocre (at the middle)

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while the design of the weapon itself isnt extremely creative or ingenious it just fits into the game so well, and the sound design and balance of it makes it overall a blast to use

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i mean surely everyone here has used it idk why im even saying all this

solar crown
low forge
snow egret
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No you didn't. Your argument was literally "it's bad"

low forge
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I also argued my opinion in more detail somewhere here above

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new technologies have only made the game worse

snow egret
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I didn't give you nothing though. I mentioned the atmosphere of the games being unique and cool

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What else ya got

low forge
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ok, I'm tired of arguing. consider yourself right. I'm tired of arguing, repeating the same arguments for the hundredth time, without image perms, and not speaking my native language. maybe I'll come back later.

snow egret
feral plover
low forge
feral plover
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I understand this, I am making you aware of it so you are not under the impression you will eventually get image perms, as is the case for many servers.

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If you wish to post images here, you can embed links. I prefer to post to a junk server, then paste the discordapp link here.

solar crown
feral plover
shadow vale
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😨

livid zealot
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hello, can anyone buy me doom 2 steam version if someone can

near portal
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Just get the iwad from the internet achieve and use gzdoom

mint plinth
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doom eternal comes with a iwad

nimble loom
near portal
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Most games around the same age of DOOM are archived by there owners on the internet archive

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If it wasn’t submitted by ID then it would be piracy and a crime but ID themselves put it there and I could be wrong but I think John Romero said it’s fine to use internet archive

feral lake
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I dunno about the accuracy of that information

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but in any case there's always Freedoom

solar crown
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Doom has been shareware since it's release iirc

feral lake
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I mean yeah the shareware versions

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downloading the release versions off the internet though is piracy

neon finch
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Honestly i dont see anything wrong with pirating a 30 year old game

feral lake
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I don't see a problem with it if the game is abandonware, which Doom is not

near portal
near portal
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On further inspection I realise my information was wrong and I apologise for that

woven siren
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tbh to help with the morality of it, virtually none of the people who originally made the game are getting any money off it if you buy it

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and as an extension of that, they won't be hurt by you pirating it

near portal
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I only recommended the internet archive because I thought ID themselves personally archived it there but I was wrong

feral plover
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Companies fucking suck at making good modern ports of old games. So when they get it right, I like to say as much with my wallet.

near portal
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I gotta agree with ya I purchased the switch and steam ports

nocturne sage
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if there is going to be a new DOOM game i would love for it to be an even harder difficulty than nightmare, it could be called hell or something

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otherwise i think the normal campaign will be way too easy for many players

solar crown
nocturne sage
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why?

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it used to be 5

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atleast in DOOM 1993

solar crown
nocturne sage
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you could just start calling the easiest difficulty very easy

zenith parrot
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alternatively

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start with UV and call it normal

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yes i know the irony of someone with a slayer profile calling ultra violence easy

nocturne sage
zenith parrot
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journalist mode?

nocturne sage
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lmao yes

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journalist mode, hurt me plenty, ultra violence, nightmare and hell

zenith parrot
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real, cool names while also shitting on games journalists

nocturne sage
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yess

zenith parrot
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i wanted to be a journalist but at the same time
A: i dont wanna get shat on like that
B: i hear deadlines are god awful

nocturne sage
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if there isnt something harder than nightmare in the next doom game (if there is going to be one) i would just get bored because its too easy

zenith parrot
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alternatively do stuff like the kaiser mod for eternal

nocturne sage
nocturne sage
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and so far i love it

zenith parrot
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your gonna notice not only is it hard but also memes

nocturne sage
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yepp i have noticed

zenith parrot
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i wish i could play it but i can barely do nightmare because i cant hotswap like other people do

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i blame my low fps (30-35 average)

nocturne sage
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load up Urdak with infinite ammo cheat on and practice in the first room

zenith parrot
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alr

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when people said doom runs on potatos i dont think they had eternal in mind lmao (yes i know it was never meant to be ran on a potato pc but here we are)

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wanna know what potato means in my case?

nocturne sage
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DOOM eternal is VERY optimised for FPS but its still a new game with really good graphics so not everything can run it with high FPS

zenith parrot
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i5-14400 @2.60 Ghz
16 GB ddr4 ram
and drumroll please: ||intel UHD 730|| GPU

zenith parrot
nocturne sage
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16GB ram is good but why do you have a 9 year old graphics card?😭

zenith parrot
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💸

nocturne sage
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(i dont know that much about computers)

zenith parrot
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dont worry i dont either, im good with software not hardware

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also i technically have a gtx 1060 but my pc manufacturer is acer so i cant use it

nocturne sage
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sell that and buy something like a RTX 3070

zenith parrot
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cant afford

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i was only able to get eternal from the recent sale

nocturne sage
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sell all your clothes

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go around naked and be proud over your computer (:

woven siren
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they made it 5 later on bc ppl were complaining about it being 4

woven siren
nocturne sage
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i just made something up in my mind in like 3 seconds

woven siren
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ultra-nightmare has that bang to it

nocturne sage
woven siren
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it would be funny if they added a new joke difficulty though

nocturne sage
woven siren
nocturne sage
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very few people would actually benefit from that

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something like the jump form UV to nightmare would be good

woven siren
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the point

nocturne sage
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i feel like it would be better if they added a difficulty people would actually be able to play

exotic arrow
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I wish there was a difficulty harder than nightmare like fever dream or something like maximum damage plus more with no armor

solar crown
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sounds just bad, not even fun

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armor makes the game atleast more interesting because it's a different kind of healthbar
you're just taking interaction away for something which is even more of a joke difficulty then UN

neon finch
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They should add a feature like those skulls from halo 2

elder viper
exotic arrow
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The Armour part was just an idea. But now that I've thought about it, they could make a difficulty that makes any enemy attack one shot death. 1 ups are included though

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Feverdream

remote ginkgo
mint plinth
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next doom game when, i need the hype

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i need the lore discussions and the drip feed of new screenshots and articles

neon finch
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Bro everyone asks that

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No one knows and id software hasnt even hinted a new doom game

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Pretty sure they teased a new quake though

mint plinth
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i ask every month if your new here

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Machine Games appears to be a big part of the new Quake, RIP Wolfenstein

elder viper
mint plinth
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I still think they need to finish the current one at the very least. There is a story between 2 and the one we dont speak of

mint plinth
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looks like confirmation that Quake isn't in development currently. It was just a mean joke to fuck with desperate fans. Like hanging food over a starving child and then throwing it into the dirt

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according to horde mode gaming, but who knows still

mint plinth
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Doom back on the menu

high stratus
elder viper
high stratus
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Do what you gotta do lol

undone briar
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Should the next doom game be expected ta release late 2025?

lethal swan
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it comes out when it comes out

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maybe 2025 maybe never

golden hound
# mint plinth next doom game when, i need the hype

Not that I don’t want another doom game but after the DLC idk where you could take it that just wouldn’t be another rehashing.

Doom already isn’t that deep of a game with limited mechanics. If they turned it on its head and deviated idk if it would be received as well.

feral plover
foggy seal
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well Martin did say they're taking gameplay in a different direction for the next title, so shouldn't really expect a eternal 2

edgy zodiac
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a different direction as in a change of pace?

solar crown
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I really hope at the least they keep it mechanically complex, the FPS genre is missing it's complex games

woven siren
solar crown
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or well "complex"

woven siren
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that works too

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i feel like it's a personal thing, i just really love concise rules or mechanics that expand into something really deep

solar crown
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maybe i was just thinking too much about devil daggers cause i feel like that one isa bit too simple with it's basekit

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and like, i don't really find eternal's kit that complex either. It's just a bit more then mediumly complex but quite simple

winter nexus
bold cedar
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g

woven siren
heavy ingot
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Is there going to be another game

foggy seal
heavy ingot
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damm

trail marsh
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Does that mean it's gonna be on another generation or only on Xbox? I hope it's not the second one

dim canopy
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and or adding and removing shit

ionic glacier
trail marsh
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Damn I was hoping that at least another doom will be on ps I guess I was wrong

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I hope so because I won't be buying Xbox for just one game

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I can wait 💀

mint plinth
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i do know the people at Id have been adamant about putting their games on every possible console. So unless MS tells them otherwise

solar crown
trail marsh
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Nah I prefer consoles

feral lake
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been a lot of articles about an apparent Starfield PS5 release

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as well as a couple others but we'll have to see if this amounts to anything or not

pine hearth
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Can barely run anything without almost dying

feral lake
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they just get a better pc lol HappyGuy

foggy seal
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^

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decent hardware is fairly accessible nowadays

low forge
trail marsh
trail marsh
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As a PS5

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Or the newest Xbox series s that black one

trail marsh
low forge
trail marsh
low forge
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I don't see any reason to use ps or xbox

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only if you are a masochist

trail marsh
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Maso what?

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I just don't like PCs I prefer playing on consoles

foggy seal
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  • higher prices on the games
  • paid subscription required for online play
  • limited by software
  • you end up spending more money in the long run
solar crown
feral plover
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Sup

lethal swan
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anything new can run games on integrated fine

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doesn't have to be expensive

trail marsh
foggy seal
trail marsh
foggy seal
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you pay for ps plus dude

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👍

trail marsh
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I pay 8 bucks and I get 3 games

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For more I have a lot of games

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👍

low forge
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You spent 8 dollars for charity and received 3 games as a gift

trail marsh
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Once there was Jedi fallen order for 8 bucks

winter nexus
trail marsh
solar crown
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except for price there isn't really any reason to prefer console

trail marsh
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Bigger screen

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Spiderman 2 and god of war Ragnarok

solar crown
trail marsh
solar crown
trail marsh
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I've tried. Also I play on PC sometimes

solar crown
solar crown
trail marsh
solar crown
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yeah fair, but also if that is like.... one of your main points. Then you have pretty little

trail marsh
solar crown
trail marsh
solar crown
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halo isn't anything special anymore

solar crown
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meanwhile, most pc "exclusives" can't even get on ps because there is a barrier of entry

trail marsh
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Imo it's good

solar crown
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exclusives don't really make sense, not anymore atleast so it's good for everyone they are fading out

trail marsh
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Fr

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I mean they make sense so ppl buy their consoles but hm

solar crown
trail marsh
solar crown
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Oh huh yeah that changed it seems

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I'd still say it's more likely they're leaving money on the table with it

rose flax
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does anyone know the state of DOOM: Year Zero?

solar crown
nocturne sage
solar crown
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also it's only in a vaccuum, you're only comparing the 2 with gaming

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if you bring anything else in pc's betterment skyrockets

trail marsh
nocturne sage
trail marsh
nocturne sage
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pretty sure you can connect any screen to pc

foggy seal
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you can

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you just need an hdmi cable

trail marsh
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Hm ig I never tried

foggy seal
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I connect my ROG Ally to TV all the time when i get home

feral plover
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The ROG Ally I mean.

foggy seal
# feral plover How is it? Any good?

I have Z1 Extreme model and performance is amazing , overall controls and navigation through windows feel great but main shortcoming comparing to steam deck is battery life, you can't go lower than 7 watts so after optimizing games and performance presets it's like comparable to switch (5 hours in less demanding titles and like 3 in more demanding titles). I bought it because i needed a handheld PC designed around Windows

foggy seal
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very impressive for a PC smaller than mini keyboard

elder viper
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I don’t think people are gonna forget the name “Doomguy” it’s way more iconic then “Doom Slayer”

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Also 2016 and Eternal use “Doomguy” a few times as well

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A lot of people still call him Doomguy. Eternal made his name canonically Doomguy. Also don’t worry your not being rude.

low forge
sage notch
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/video

winter nexus
devout robin
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Doom guy doom slayer he's still the same guy

trail marsh
solar crown
atomic compass
atomic compass
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Doomguy is iconic, but we’ve gone past that point and he’s become a different entity

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Doomguy is human, Doomslayer is superhuman

atomic compass
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The Divinity Machine was the shift to where he became superhuman, hence the name “Doomslayer” and “Doomguy” was phased out

fair mango
low forge
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Thy

magic flint
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It's Flynn Taggart you rookies! lol

solar crown
fair mango
# solar crown That's the comicguy, tooootally different person

actually those are the novels, the comic you’re probably thinking about was issued by marvel and was only 16 pages long, which didn’t give much room for plot, so you never even get a rendition of his name there, but the comic IS where the “rip and tear” and “huge guts” lines come from, which are so comically horrible pieces of dialogue that they were memed by doom eternal by trying to make them seem serious, that goes over a surprising amount of doom fans heads who actually think the line sounds cool

solar crown
fair mango
solar crown
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Obv only a mentally insane person would utter those lines megalel

feral plover
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I like the part when Doomguy laments the horrific effects of pollution.

fair mango
feral plover
fair mango
fair mango
solar crown
magic flint
solar crown
magic flint
# solar crown but... it's not? flynn taggart doesn't become doomslayer

Flynn earned himself the nickname Doom Slayer. Eventually the Night Sentinels were betrayed by the Maykr race, in exchange for Argent energy, and led in an ambush where only Flynn and Valen survived. Eventually the demons defeated Flynn by dropping a temple on him. He was then entombed in a sarcophagus.

magic flint
solar crown
magic flint
solar crown
magic flint
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At some point, Taggart became stranded on Argent D'Nur where he met the Night Sentinels led by Valen. His extraordinary skill, led him to becoming the first outsider to join the Night Sentinels where he was given his Praetor Suit.

Together they would slay many demons. Flynn earned himself the nickname Doom Slayer. Eventually the Night Sentinels were betrayed by the Maykr race, in exchange for Argent energy, and led in an ambush where only Flynn and Valen survived.

Eventually the demons defeated Flynn by dropping a temple on him. He was then entombed in a sarcophagus. Eventually Samuel Hayden of the UAC of Earth-72 (year 2145 from their perspective) led an expedition into Hell and discovered the sarcophagus

In 2149, Hayden had Flynn awakened from his sarcophagus to deal with a demon invasion that Olivia Pierce had caused.

During his battle against Hell's latest invasion, Flynn fought the Cyberdemon once again and eventually defeated Pierce who had been turned into the Spider Mastermind. Flynn then returned to Mars where Hayden double crossed him, not wanting Flynn to interfering with his plans for Argent energy.

Oh no totally can be the same guy though.

magic flint
# solar crown i'm sorry that i have to break you the news that the comics guy isn't the doomgu...

At some point, Taggart became stranded on Argent D'Nur where he met the Night Sentinels led by Valen. His extraordinary skill, led him to becoming the first outsider to join the Night Sentinels where he was given his Praetor Suit.

Together they would slay many demons. Flynn earned himself the nickname Doom Slayer. Eventually the Night Sentinels were betrayed by the Maykr race, in exchange for Argent energy, and led in an ambush where only Flynn and Valen survived.

Eventually the demons defeated Flynn by dropping a temple on him. He was then entombed in a sarcophagus. Eventually Samuel Hayden of the UAC of Earth-72 (year 2145 from their perspective) led an expedition into Hell and discovered the sarcophagus

In 2149, Hayden had Flynn awakened from his sarcophagus to deal with a demon invasion that Olivia Pierce had caused.

During his battle against Hell's latest invasion, Flynn fought the Cyberdemon once again and eventually defeated Pierce who had been turned into the Spider Mastermind. Flynn then returned to Mars where Hayden double crossed him, not wanting Flynn to interfering with his plans for Argent energy.

Oh no totally can be the same guy though. Sorry your an idiot

solar crown
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or are you just coppying doomguy's story and substituting it with the guy from the books

feral plover
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Doomguy does not have a confirmed name.

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When you say arrogant shit and call other people dumb but then spout misinformation yourself, it makes you look like a tool. Calm down and take a breath.

solar crown
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all they need is a source that it was flynn specifically that went to argent d'nur

foggy seal
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delusion moment

solar crown
heavy ingot
heavy ingot
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That's just doom 2016 with Flynn instead

mint plinth
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Next Doom game when, announced this June ... i would say there is a chance

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and a podcast this thursday, probably zero chance there

blazing cargo
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is the podcast thursday suppose to be a showcase?

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not of doom specifically, just upcoming games in general

mint plinth
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Nobody knows

low forge
mint plinth
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i hope not, it has been so long and i need the hype and lore discussions

solar crown
# low forge June 2025

2016 and eternal both released about 2 years post their first teaser
just a mere year after a teaser sounds too short

low forge
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In june 2025

mint plinth
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i hope teaser this june, please god make it happen

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or whatever Id is working on. Might be Doom Zero, might be Quake

paper smelt
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Purple

atomic compass
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-is my favorite color!”

low forge
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they will have time to do more work

astral glen
low forge
paper smelt
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Indeed

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Can y'all leave my eye alone please? 😔 Cuz my buddy Frederick is blind now 😞

mint plinth
low forge
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they won't have time to make a new game in 1 year

mint plinth
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that gives them another 14 years of polish though

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s/b good enought right?

low forge
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Its because Wolfenstein 3 will be released in 2039

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(in honor of ww2 100th anniversary )

mint plinth
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oh i see

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you may be right, okay damn its going to be a wait

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back to Elden Ring i guess

mint plinth
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a whole not of nothing from xbos business showcase. some interesting articles but i can't post them

paper smelt
barren trail
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Mighty Doom 2

crude finch
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Doom metaverse

molten sleet
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Doom vr would be awesome

low forge
# molten sleet Doom vr would be awesome

https://store.steampowered.com/app/650000/DOOM_VFR/

Steam
DOOM VFR

Developed by id Software, the studio that pioneered the first-person shooter genre and modern VR, DOOM® VFR brings the fast-paced, brutal gameplay fans of the series love to virtual reality. Immerse yourself in the UAC facility on Mars and the depths of Hell, as your skills are put to the test through intense combat and challenging puzzle-solvin...

Price

$14.99

Recommendations

1993

Metacritic

69

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molten sleet
mint plinth
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No thanks, unless they make it playable without a headset

neat token
low forge
neat token
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Sadly bought it couple years ago full price on PlayStation cuz it looked good but really wasn't.

atomic compass
neat token
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VFR ain't worth it either way.

leaden crown
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nice (not nice)

elder viper
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Doom 3 PSVR looks good though

mint plinth
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vr makes a lot of people sick. I just can't get into it. Someday, perhaps when the tech is smaller and just like wearing a pair of shades

stiff sluice
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I forced my body to get used to motion sickness on vr by playing a roller coaster game on a meta quest

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I now have motion sickness immunity

mint plinth
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well that is part of it, the other is looking like a absolute idiot esp to outsiders

elder viper
cerulean flare
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I bet the next DOOM game will have better glory kills and have a larger arsenal of weapons to use against more variants of demons and bosses in the future

solar crown
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i ohpe it won't have more weapons, the current amount of weapons is fine they just have to balance it a bit better and make more guns interesting

mint plinth
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I would love it if they had a third fire option instead of having to "switch" mods. But i agree, we have enough weapons already.

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but its probably a prequel, which means more futuristic swords and hammers in the mix with the slayers normal weapons

safe oxide
cerulean flare
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I just bet they'll look cooler

safe oxide
elder viper
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and whatever else idTech 8 will introduce assuming that there making a new engine for the new game

ionic tapir
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I have a name idea for the next doom, doom infinite.

median urchin
#

Holaa

steep hill
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what's your favroite doom game?

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mine is the 1993 doom

low forge
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now claim the copyright for this title so that id software will have to pay you

heavy ingot
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and eternal is like infinite

odd igloo
#

hear me out...
Doom Reckoning
The game features a revamped combat system that allows for more fluid and dynamic gameplay, with a wide range of weapons (raygun, sentinel grenade launcher, cyber shotgun) and abilities at the player's disposal. The player can also upgrade their weapons and abilities using resources collected throughout the game, allowing for a more customizable gameplay experience.
Doom Reckoning also introduces a new multiplayer mode that allows players to team up with friends in intense cooperative battles against waves of demons, as well as a competitive mode where players can go head-to-head in fast-paced, adrenaline-fueled combat.
With stunning graphics, intense gameplay, and a gripping storyline, Doom Reckoning promises to be the ultimate demon slaying experience for fans of the series. Are you ready to take on the forces of hell and prevent the impending doom? Let the reckoning begin.

ionic tapir
simple skiff
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I wanna get to see argent d'nur in its prime, and see the cities like taras nabad before they became ruined

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overall I think the whole sentinel plot stuff is really cool and I wanna see more of them

atomic compass
#

Doom Infinite is just a demo as of now but it’s AMAZING

heavy ingot
#

ohhhh

atomic compass
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https://youtu.be/kEIDEsTIowA

YouTube
DOS Player
DOOM INFINITE - Demo Trailer

DOOM INFINITE is a singleplayer roguelike action FPS based on the original Doom and Doom II.

Lost in Infinity's grasp, the Doom Slayer must break an endless cycle of death and rebirth. Take a plunge into the twisted spiral of never-ending death and bloodlust, discover dark secrets, take advantage of mysterious powerups, mod your guns to your li...

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Yeah, pretty good wad

heavy ingot
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i was talking about like one of the new games

atomic compass
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I know but, that title is kinda taken now

heavy ingot
heavy ingot
atomic compass
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Yeah