tech-talk

[torn elm]

you dont gotta go, just curious is al

[terse gate]

I'm not leaving

I'm not educated enough to be here I know nothing about tech :3

[split cairn]

Oh!!!!! How do I fix that?

[torn elm]

well, what specific monitor are you using?

[split cairn]

I run a Samsung Odyssey g9 57 super ultra wide screen. So it's good and I need to dial in the settings to get HDR working right.

[torn elm]

everybody starts somewhere

is it a 240hz?

[terse gate]

?

[split cairn]

Yes

[torn elm]

okay so

[torn elm]

your monitor is a VA panel, you should not be using HDR with it at all, i would say get an oled and THEN use HDR

[split cairn]

Well I paid like 2k+ for that monitor. It's not even a few months old.

[true dawn]

yeah if youre not into HDR its still an amazing display

[split cairn]

So what settings should I be using to get e best hdr because I play a lot of games that support hdr

[true dawn]

I wouldnt use HDR on it at all

it will look washed out, as you described

its still a really good panel, and 8k2k will be absolutely gorgeous regardless

[torn elm]

If say get a refund Homeslice, but it’s still a good monitor

[storm garden]

If you are on windows, you could try the windows hdr calibration tool if you haven't already. It is worth a try just to see how it looks when calibrated.

[true dawn]

Actually I looked it up, I didnt realize your monitor is mini LED. Yeah I would give HDR a shot, make sure you use windows HDR calibration like @storm garden said, and also whenever you enable HDR in game, set the hdr settings appropriately. Most games make it easy and guide you through it.

[true dawn]

refund and buy what lol? I dont think theres a better monitor on the planet right now

its an oddysey g9, its a absolute monster

[torn elm]

What are you talking about, he has a VA panel

[true dawn]

and?

its mini-led, its 8k2k

[torn elm]

That doesn’t make it the best monitor lmao

It’s a good panel but it’s far from HDR level ideal

[true dawn]

ok, then find a super ultrawide with better specs

it still has decent HDR, its mini led so it has lots of dimming zones

will it be as good as OLED? no, but i also dont think you can get an oled that matches the other specs atm, and if you could it would be much more expensive for a relatively small upgrade

[true dawn]

none of those are super ultrawide

[torn elm]

I’ve used a top tier mini led panel and a mid tier OLED panel

[true dawn]

and all of them are much worse res lmao

[torn elm]

OLED was a clear winner

[torn elm]

You mean 60 less hz?

[true dawn]

and less than a third the resolution

[torn elm]

What was the res again?

[true dawn]

8k2k

[torn elm]

So 5120 x 1440?

[true dawn]

no

8k x 2k

4k super ultrawide basically

[torn elm]

Ah okay okay that makes more sense

I was wondering like “why is he defending it so much” lmao, alright that makes more sense

[true dawn]

yeah thats what im saying man

You should have googled what the monitor even was before telling the dude to refund lol

[storm garden]

Hdr tends to look really good on my Mini LED TV, usually better than SDR too.

[true dawn]

yeah, like i said its not as good as OLED obviously, but its still a very acceptable HDR experience

and honestly if i had infinite money to spend id take decent hdr and 8k2k over really good hdr and 1440x3440

but really just a preference/what your priorities are in a display

[torn elm]

I did, there’s like 4 different versions of the G9

[true dawn]

only one thats 57 inch afaik

[torn elm]

I found another one

[true dawn]

only one on their website, and cant find a single reference to a different one online

you were probably looking at the old neo g9 thats only 1440 and is only 49 inches

[torn elm]

Ah that’s the one

[true dawn]

yeah, very different monitor. Just read more carfully next time before giving advice lol

[torn elm]

Tho on a slightly seperate note, OLED is not a marginal difference, like even QD OLED and OLED have a huge difference, so Mini LED is kind of in its own league

[storm garden]

It's actually impressive just how good the monitor market has gotten recently. 1440p 240hz OLEDs are pretty cheap nowadays

[torn elm]

240hz 1440p is the standard for the current panels

[storm garden]

Rightfully so

[torn elm]

Which is a dope standard

Monitor market ☝️

GPU market 👎

[true dawn]

I didnt say its marginal at all

[storm garden]

Honestly 50 series is a skip generation and 90 series is decent at best

[true dawn]

yeah i got the new alienware UW 1440 240hz and its amazing

and (relatively) cheap too

[storm garden]

I'm still using a 1080p 240hz I got back in like 2020

[true dawn]

nah i think the 90 series was a big dub

but its kind of an in-between generation. I think it will age well, but a lot of its best features are still in the works

[storm garden]

It usually only slightly edges out 50 series in value, fundamentally it is really good for amd but in terms of marketing, it isn't that good.

[true dawn]

its a bit of a stepping stone for UDNA

[true dawn]

depends on where you live, here the 9070/9060 smash the 50 series in value

theres usually a few for 900, and quite a few for closer to 1k

compared to 5070 ti, which is around 200-300 more

I live in canada, so all these prices are in CAD, if youre wondering why they are so high

[split cairn]

With HDR I don't understand HDR very well but should I set the picture settings and like the color kind of high up so that it pops or should I leave everything kind of default?

[true dawn]

Youre talking about the windows calibration right? The colour thing is just personal preference. Personally I like it pretty saturated, but not over the top. So i put mine at like 60-70%, cant remember exactly. Just try whatever value sounds good and try some games. If it seems oversaturated thenturn it down

HDR is one of those things thats kind of a bitch to get tuned exactly right, but once you do its pretty sweet

[torn elm]

Both are poopy buns, the 90 series doesn’t even out perform the previous gen

[true dawn]

yes it does?

[torn elm]

Look up the GPU hierarchy by Tom’s hardware

[true dawn]

i dont need to

[storm garden]

The entire focus of 90 series was stability over performance

[true dawn]

the 9070 xt beats everything short of the 7900 xtx

[storm garden]

they chose to go midrange since not many people buy topend

[torn elm]

Which is the concern, like it costs the same as a 7900xtx and performs the same

[true dawn]

no it doesnt lmao

[torn elm]

Great! Ray tracing is better, now what

[torn elm]

My guy, seriously, look up the benchmarks, I get liking AMD and all but this is ridiculous

[true dawn]

the 7900 xtx is not the same price as the 9070

[storm garden]

better ray tracing, better encoder, lower power draw, fsr 4 is way better than 3

[true dawn]

and i know the benchmarks dude, i own a 7900 xtx myself

[storm garden]

no av1 video encoding bug either

[torn elm]

900 dollars and 900 dollars

[torn elm]

Yes but it performs the same, that’s the problem, both with the new NVIDIA and AMD GPUs

[true dawn]

the 9070 xt is not 900 dollars unless you live in the us lol

[storm garden]

When the xtx launched it was way more than the 9070xt launch price

[true dawn]

^^

[storm garden]

Of course the xtx is similarly priced now because (as you just said) it performs similarly

[torn elm]

My store bought both, the 7900xtx was 900 and now (not MSRP) the 9070xt is 900

[true dawn]

well thats just where you live

[torn elm]

In the U.S. that is

Michigan

[true dawn]

here 9070 xt is like 900, 7900 xtx is like 1200

[storm garden]

XT is being sold around £630 here

[torn elm]

Jeez, guess international pricing is better

Blackwell and RDNA 4 both have their advantages over ADA Lovelace and RDNA 3 (thank Christ for chiplet architecture being removed) but it should be an improvement in the most basic aspect too, raster performance, unfortunately both aren’t. Which is the literal one job they had

[storm garden]

At the price point, I would say rdna 4 is a good enough boost

[true dawn]

the raster improvement wasnt their focus this gen

[torn elm]

Maybe for you guys, here nobody is upgrading unless your coming from an RDNA 2 GPU

[true dawn]

its still a big improvement, but not as big as the improvement to rt and esspecially AI

[torn elm]

Which is a problem. Blackwell didn’t focus on it either and neither did Intel for their CPUs

[true dawn]

7800xt 7900GRE are the closest in msrp to 9070 xt

and it blows both of them out the water pretty well

regardless 9070 xt and 9060 xt are both solid gpus in my opinion, and fsr4 and the other ai improvements are a good step

[torn elm]

How is the current pricing for the 7900xtx where you live

[true dawn]

scroll up

[true dawn]

^

[torn elm]

In my opinion it is a good step, however I don’t think they’re solid considering what they give in the most basic aspect. Dissapointing year…

[true dawn]

theyre better value than anything nvidia released this gen

[torn elm]

Why is the 7900xtx that much more expensive lmao they perf the same

[true dawn]

higher msrp, bigger card more vram

I think its more that your 9070's are extremely overpriced

[torn elm]

My guy it’s not about NVIDIA it’s about all GPU manufacturers, nvidias abandoned the gaming market, their Q3 reports show that AI makes literally 10 times more than gaming GPUs monetarily

Both Nvidia and AMD dropped the ball this year

[true dawn]

can you go 5 seconds without talking down to me?

god, you are insufferable to talk to.

[torn elm]

God forbid someone want tech to be better than last year instead of being the same bullshit and getting all the [insert any company here] fanboys to defend it with their lives

[true dawn]

not what im talking about at all, but sure, keep deflecting

I just dont like the way youre speaking to me

[torn elm]

Are you really okay with the gpus literally performing the same at the high end?

[true dawn]

they arent at the high end though

[torn elm]

They’re priced at the high end

[true dawn]

not for me or most people

jesus man read what im saying

[torn elm]

What about people living in the United States?

Literally 300 million people

[true dawn]

a 9070 xt is about $650 usd where i live. that is not high end

[torn elm]

That’s almost lower than MSRP, which is insane, I kid you not this is the first time I’m hearing of that GPU being available for that cheap in the last 3 months of fixing, selling and building pcs

[true dawn]

Im not talking about the terrible gpu market in the us right now, im talking about the 9070 xt. and when and where you can get it for MSRP, its a good value

[true dawn]

its been at that price here for months

and its exactly msrp for canada (900)

[torn elm]

So you want to look at it from a value perspective? It gives good value. You want to look at it from actual advancement? no, it falls short.

[true dawn]

ok?

[torn elm]

That’s my point here

[true dawn]

most people arent buying the high end anyway?

and it is a big improvement over last gens upper midrange vards

like i said, the 7800 xt and 7900 gre are the closest in msrp and it washes both of them in nearly every aspect

[torn elm]

7900gre was pretty good value, I reccomend the 9070 to people aswell when helping them build computers. Definitely better value than Nvidia

[true dawn]

so we agree then?

[torn elm]

I always agreed on that

[slate flicker]

It’s crazy how many people I’ve encountered in this server that are just naturally condescending in the way they talk to others. People seem to be incapable of handling disagreement without down-talking others

[true dawn]

I've had a similar experience, unfortunately. That's why I only talk in this channel.

[slate flicker]

Fair enough honestly, although I will say this channel seems to have a fairly high argument frequency lol

[true dawn]

That's tech needs for you. Comes with the territory lol

[slate flicker]

I haven’t seen him in a bit but there was this one guy who consistently came in here with steam statistics trying to argue that tda was a flop and it’s just like, why do you care so much about this lmao

Fucker was in here almost daily starting shit with people 😭

[true dawn]

Yeah I remember, he was mad he coulndt run it well in vr

[slate flicker]

Aye I suppose that’s true

[slate flicker]

LOL I forgot about that 🤣

[torn elm]

To be fair me being exposed to a lot of the tech community did allow their assholeishness to rub off on me

In general this place is pretty tame compared to a lot of actual dedicated tech centers and servers, they’re slinging slurs at each other and just straight up insulting one another

[remote acorn]

and for what

There's no point in doing it

[torn elm]

thers no point in going that far but there is a point to debate

[remote acorn]

yeah but that kind of behavior is not debate

Debate typically has a set of logical arguments that are being made, and insults are inherently not a part of that structure

[spiral river]

Hey yall, I have an issue with DOOM Eternal where everytime I launch, it gets passed the main loading screen and says teleporting at the bottom left, then just black screen's with music still playing in the backround. This is my first time loading DOOM Eternal, and it says that I could run the game with low graphics mode on, but I have an Intel Core i7-6700 CPU, 3.40 GHz, NVIDIA GeForce 970 (4 GB) Windows 10 Home 16GB RAM. Thank you so much if you find a solution

[final mortar]

Try buying new parts, which I know sounds like a hassle, but I've never seen this issue before so I'm just making assumptions

[spiral river]

Sadgate

I guess I'll just stick to doom 2016 cause I'm too broke to buy a new pc

[final mortar]

Yeah sorry, I would recommend Bethesda support too

[west fable]

so ive been asking around if DOOM: Eternal has mouse smoothing or acceleration

and im getting mixed answers

So I wanna know if DOOM: Eternal uses raw mouse input or if they use mouse acceleration and if they do use mouse acceleration how do I turn it off cuz i cant find anything in settings

[true dawn]

why does it matter? never got the hate for mouse acceleration

unless youre competing at an esports level, its not hurting anything really.

[empty patrol]

is this a decent price? I don't play extremely demanding games and I don't want to build my own currently

[torn elm]

you can have a much better pc made, id say order some parts and then have someone build it for you, maybe a tech store

[torn elm]

i agree

[remote acorn]

Yeah I'm with mecat. That's not the best you can do. Try PC parts picker

[empty patrol]

ight gotchu

[remote acorn]

If you're gaming on it you need at minimum 16 GB RAM to run modern stuff for the most part

And the rest of the PC was kinda booty cheeks

[torn elm]

@empty patrol here is an idea of what you could get, its about 100 dollars more but if you buy a used gpu and a used case you can bring the total down to 479

[remote acorn]

P good build

Good stuff, big ups

[torn elm]

thank you thank you

[west fable]

I dont like playing with it

[west fable]

ok so after researching, ive edited the DOOM: Eternal config file to put m_smooth: '0' is this the right way to do it
to remove mouse smoothing

[storm garden]

I would assume so

[torn elm]

\wasnt this available from windows settings?

[urban valve]

Is Ryzen 5 5500 and an Rx 6600 enough to run the dark ages?

[storm garden]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8UteI_ZERuE

Here is a video of someone testing it. The CPU is better in this video but you will most likely be GPU bound in this game.

[urban valve]

Thx

[torn elm]

You should be good

He’s right

[urban valve]

I hope so

Im getting the PC next week and I wanna play a lot of games Including the dark ages

[torn elm]

I know so, you can run the game. 60 fps FSR balanced

[torn elm]

Niiice congrats on the new pc

[urban valve]

Appreciate it gng I've been waiting for a long time and it's finally happening

[torn elm]

Enjoy to the fullest with that thing man, if you can, I’d say pull the cpu out of it when you can and sell it. And buy a used 5600 if you can

Just my personal reccomendation, it’s a bit of a hassle but it’s what I’d do

[urban valve]

I'll probably get the 5600 yeah

[urban valve]

Is a used GPU alright in your opinion?

[torn elm]

Yeah, the cache is a lot better on it. You’ll feel less latency

[urban valve]

32mb ik yeah but the budget cannot be broken

[torn elm]

That’s a good question, it really depends on the manufacturer and age of the GPU

[torn elm]

Totally understandable

[urban valve]

Make sense

[torn elm]

Yeah, If I was buying used I’d go with sapphire nitro + or Asus preferably since they have the best build quality and highest rated capacitors for their pcbs

[urban valve]

The new ore built has the r 5500

And the GPU used one has the 5 5600 same price

[torn elm]

Wait what? I thought we were talking about GPU’s not CPUs

Oh yeah used CPUs are fine, just make sure you can have the option to refund it if it doesn’t work well

[urban valve]

There is

[torn elm]

Awesome

[urban valve]

Man you don't know how excited IAM

[torn elm]

Oh I bet homie, the is shit is gonna feel amazing

What was your previous system? Or is this your first?

[urban valve]

Pentium dual cores and a GeForce Nvidia 610M and 4gb ram 😭

The upgrade is gonna feel so smooth I might cry

[torn elm]

Holy shit lmao this is a huge upgrade

[urban valve]

Ik bro I've been stuck with that for 5 years

[storm garden]

Once you get the budget (or it becomes cheaper) I really recommend an x3D CPU at some point because they are the best gaming CPUs on am4

[urban valve]

My budget is already so low lol

Can't really afford an x3d cpu

[storm garden]

Understandable, yeah. Whatever is the best you can afford should suffice

[empty patrol]

making a Micxro ATX AM5 build, this a good deal?

[storm garden]

Not the biggest fan of gigabyte but the price seems decent

[empty patrol]

should I be concerened their are no ratings and it says final sale: non returnable?

[storm garden]

Probably, yeah

I dont recall there being any issues with this model but if it is faulty, you can't do much

[modern bronze]

Im loving 5070

[empty patrol]

alright yall I need help, I'm building a PC soon and I have a 550 to 600 dollar budget, should I make an APU build on AM5 for future proofing with an 8600G and add andequate GPU later or make an AM4 Build with a 5500 and a 3050/6600 for cheaper but be stuck on AM4 and have to spend more to upgrade later? I play games like Genshin, Warframe, H:SR, and Classic DOOM so I don't need insane hardware

[sharp scarab]

my rig is
RTX 2060 super
amd ryzen 7 3700x
16gb ram
ssd nvme
b450 carbon gaming pro max wifi motherboard

when doom came out game was alright in performance, then the game started stuttering a lot, I'm using nvidia driver version 566.36, please anyone recommend good stable version, because I'm hitting 99% gpu usage during playing, seems 566.36 got outdated with doom updates, thanks.

[sharp scarab]

alright since you're not looking for high end pc, i would advice u to get 5 5500 with RX 6600 regular or XT, avoid 3050, I'm not great tech guy but best if u hear what others says

[storm garden]

Yeah don't get a 3050, the 6600 is a way better option.

[storm garden]

I'm not really sure about the cause but I know recent nvidia drivers have been having many issues. Quite interesting, though as many people suggest 566.36 to be the last stable one.

[sharp scarab]

switched to 576.80 got about extra +20% performance and gpu usage no longer high

[storm garden]

That's interesting because GPU usage being high should be normal in a game like doom tda

[sharp scarab]

kinda, but 99% made my game unplayable suddenly, after switching to 576xx it became better and for some reason temps is better

[storm garden]

I mean if it works, it works 🤷‍♂️

[sharp scarab]

exactly lol

[torn elm]

Would not recommended gigabyte at all for budget

[gritty oak]

My electricity flickered and my pc won't turn back on. Is it cooked? Its on a surge protector

[gritty oak]

Fixed it chat 💪

[empty patrol]

what the fuck is this video bro

[cyan geyser]

Is a 3070 good enough to run doom TDA?

[topaz creek]

Yep

[plush ridge]

ah sweet

[cyan geyser]

Ok whats the highest graphics i can run it on?

[empty patrol]

I'd say so

don't expect 1440p tho

[empty patrol]

I'd say 1080p Medium with a high mix could get you 50 or more FPS

[cyan geyser]

Ok thanks

[empty patrol]

or 900p upscaled to 1080p

[storm garden]

3070 can do 60fps on ultra nightmare native

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Zlzatw1E2vQ&t=623s

This is a good video to watch to grasp performance

(it might be higher now since this was pre launch)

[empty patrol]

oh damn I thought it was lower since a 3080 is the recommended GPU

[cyan geyser]

My game froze on the opening cutscene, i had low graphics though?

[empty patrol]

whats your CPU?

It could be a bottleneck

[cyan geyser]

I7 14th gen

I used dlss and was able to continue though

[modern bronze]

I use 5800x and 5070 32 gb

[burnt timber]

yes just set texture cache size to minimum

doesn't affect the graphics

[ocean anvil]

hi

[pine gale]

and now even doom 2016 has more peak and concurrenty players vs the newer doom the dark ages on steam, doom 2016 is more accessable (price + needed hardware [no forced raytracing])

[storm garden]

Doom tda was more targeted towards game pass users tbf

[storm garden]

Are there any error logs?

[torn elm]

this motherfucker again

[pine gale]

have you looked in a mirror? 😄

[slate flicker]

Bro do you have like, friends? A job? Or is your sole purpose in life to analyze steam stats and post in the doom discord about how the latest game was a flop? I’m not even annoyed with it at this point, it just feels incredibly sad that you’re so dedicated to doing this

It’s been what, more than 2 months since the game came out and you’re still on about this?

[pine gale]

I found the decisions they made stupid and predicted that they would harm sales and players, and that the old Doom games would quickly have more active players on Steam – and that's what happened!

[storm garden]

It wasn't even a flop, game pass is much more prevalent now than in 2016 (if it even existed then) which is where most people will play TDA

[slate flicker]

Not to mention eternal released in the middle of a pandemic when everybody had literally no other responsibilities other than playing video games

[pine gale]

oh, this isn't eternal, this is doom 2016 😄

[gritty oak]

He is insufferable

[torn elm]

genuinely

[gritty oak]

My guy I see you're playing Elden Ring, you have great taste.

[torn elm]

thank you

[storm garden]

What boss have you made it up to on elden ring?

[true dawn]

still munching on that keyboard i see

you could just step on it a few times and hit send. at least that gibberish isnt head achingly whiny

or, you know. Make some friends? Get laid? whatever helps you get over this month long obsession with a video game you didnt like

[torn elm]

im on NG +1, im tryna beat melania rn, and the DLC is really hard

[storm garden]

I uh... yeah. I messed up really bad with the DLC because I thought NG+ didn't apply to it. I ended up doing the dlc on NG+4 or something like that 😭

Good luck with Malenia though!

[pine gale]

hmmm, i don't hink you could predict the playcountdevelopment in this way 🤣

[true dawn]

i see you took my advice

complete gibberish.

[torn elm]

Holy shit lmao

[torn elm]

Thanks! Just broke her first phase

[storm garden]

You've got this 💪

[urban valve]

Hey guys I found a deal on a pre built with the Rx 6650xt but the downside tbat is has a Ryzen 5 3500x should I get it or no?

[storm garden]

If it is a good enough deal that you could just upgrade the cpu for a lower price than buying a prebuild with a better cpu, may aswell

[urban valve]

Yeah but the price especially with the Rx 6650xt is good

I could change it to a Ryzen 5 5500 but it'll crack my budget ik it's better but I also need to buy a monitor

[storm garden]

What games are you looking to play on your pc?

[urban valve]

Honestly basically everything im trying to enjoy gaming for once I've been struggling my whole life with bad devices and I have a huge list of games I need to play

[pine gale]

you can always stream games with geforce now. gives you often somethin like rtx 2080 (special version with 16gb), that is probably more powerful than a rx6650xt (or at least in the same ballpark)

[storm garden]

2080 is about equal to a 6650xt

[urban valve]

Im buying a PC tho why I would stream games

[pine gale]

why should you buy a pc that offer same or less performance than the free tear of geforce now if you get a rig with 2080?

and special 2080 is not as vram limited as the radeon in your configuration....

doom tda runs like dogshit on a rx 6650 xt for this kind of game and everything below fsr 4 (that has been introduced with rx 9000 cards, other cards cannot use it) is so inferorier especially with lower resolution that you don't want to use it ...https://youtu.be/Uz26dSgbKd4?t=32

so this is not a good card for the future.

[pine gale]

same settings (for testing i am subscribed to the performance tier in geforce now ... (they gave me an rtx 3060 this time ... )) (because of forced raytracing you also need a higher tier than free)

[true dawn]

this is only because doom tda is RT, in raster games they are much closer

but thats besides the point. they obviously want a pc, not a streaming service

[modern bronze]

Why is frame generation is bad

[torn elm]

It’s just that it can be very laggy on some games and feel weird, but on TDA it’s pretty damn good

[storm garden]

Because you need to rely on good internet, even with good internet the latency of GeForce now is usually much worse with noticeable quality loss. Not to mention you usually have to be in a waiting list

[torn elm]

And it also allows devs to be more lazy with their optomization so there’s that

[modern bronze]

I noticed that in dl2 when I try to use frame generation my game crush

[urban valve]

The games on GeForce now are limited and im happy with the performance of the 6650xt it's a major upgrade from what I had

[urban valve]

Exactly

[pine gale]

if you are happy with 6650xt performance, get it. it should be really cheap now, performance should be similar to the gpu-part in consoles-socs: (probably a bit more than) ps5 + series x but these console have more vram and get optimized versions ....

[storm garden]

Main reason the consoles usually perform better is due to their dedicated hardware decompression (at least with the PS5)

[pine gale]

consoles get dialed in settings specifically for the plattform, sometime these settings they are using aren't availabe on other plattforms, they can also get around things like shader compilation stutter because they can precalculate the shaders.

[storm garden]

A lot of modern games pre-compile shaders now and usually PC settings can scale around console

[pine gale]

with good hardware you can normally outperform console pretty easy but in this case, with a 6650xt, probably not.

[urban valve]

Same here

What cpu you got?

I have a Pentium dual cores lol

Niceee gongrats

Wait what ya getting?

Is that new?

I've never seen it

You selling all yo stuff to get it 😭

Yeah like the ROG ally x

But why yo selling yo Lego collection you should keep it

What's the point of getting cool stuff from the beginning if your just gonna sell them

Yeah but it's collection to remind you of your Youth yk

I've always been broke and now life is smiling for me im gonna start collecting stuff I really love to show my children how of a nerd I was

I haven't played none of those lol I played doom 3 I just didn't have a good PC now that im getting it I can finally enjoy gaming

[unkempt rain]

Tech

[urban valve]

I really can't wait to have children they're just gonna be so fun to have around

[urban valve]

Talk

Igtg we'll continue the Convo later cya!

[storm garden]

I want me some doggos ngl

[dreamy bolt]

You should have kids

[cyan geyser]

How come doom TDA keeps crashing today when it worked perfectly fine last time i played it?

[storm garden]

You could try editing the game settings to lower the vram usage, could be that?

[true dawn]

only technically lol. I really wouldnt reccomend ever actually using rt on it

theres lossless scaling, but thats very new on linux and its a little rough around the edges atm

wouldnt reccomend it on deck. performance is very poor. you can check out some videos and see if its acceptable for you, but personally i wouldnt

theres always streaming services if you really want

im just putting the option out there?

i also dont like cloud gaming, but its literally the only way you would be able to play tda in a good state

at like 144p

again, its playable but not reccomended

it wouldnt be a very good experience compared to eternal or the like

i guess if youre used to 30 fps and super low res it probably wouldnt bother you too much

from what i understand theres not a lot you can do to optimize tda, as the vast majority of the performance hit comes from rt

and i dont think you can reduce it much below minimum settings without major graphical issues

wdym

the 30 fps benchmark is at 360p

wouldnt reccomend lossless scaling in this specific case. the low resolution and poor original framerate would make the play experience worse than just native

but it wouldnt be 30 after frame gen

and also the low internal res would make it look smeary

thats not the point i was making

fair enough

what? im not copy pasting anything. im telling you this based on my own experience from using LS extensively

if you did that would be very very impressive, but i extremely doubt that

also windows on deck is awful in my experience

I would, as that sounds pretty much impossible

windows on handheld just sucks, and in my testing games ran much worse on windows than steam os

yep

you can still play java on linux though

"optimizing windows" rarely makes any real world difference

and also i did it and there was virtually no change

i used a custom windows install stripped of bloat and "optimized for gaming"

actual improvements are very few and far between. HDR was a big upgrade on 11, at least?

I went very far with it. Windows optimization is a scam 90% of the time.

sadly i cannot. many of the software i use are not well supported on linux

steam os still has a looong way to go

it really really sucks for desktop use.

unless UE5 and adobe porducts all get proper linux support, then no

I still use steam os on handhelds though, and PiOS for my pi400

adobe is never happening

that would also involve breaking the drm

so it would probably get taken down as soon as its off the ground

[storm garden]

What games can you run on that?

Titanfall 2 seems quite impressive tbh

I thought you said you can run it?

[true dawn]

A4-5300?

[storm garden]

Is that pre-ryzen amd?

[true dawn]

yes

[storm garden]

uhoh

[true dawn]

why does the sticker say A4?

you can swap the apu on that laptop??

[storm garden]

maybe changed the motherboard?

[true dawn]

well that certainly is one of the APU of all time

I bet that upgrade to the steam deck you were talking about will be nice lol

[storm garden]

My macbook could probably run a game with rosetta better than that natively lol

[true dawn]

Is it weird to say i miss when i had crappy specs like that?

[storm garden]

I still have my old "gaming" laptop I used to play fortnite on lol

[true dawn]

When i was happy if i could get a game to run at all. These days I get pressed if im not hitting a constant 240 fps at 1440x3440

[storm garden]

240fps at that res is a pretty niche ask lol

[true dawn]

The more you have, the less you appreciate i guess

[true dawn]

im not pushing that in most modern titles without framegen, but i can easily push it in older games

[storm garden]

When cyberpunk released on macos yesterday I was saying how it performed and someone was telling me it was unplayable like bro do you expect gaming PC performance from a macbook lol

[true dawn]

oh yeah i forgot about that. How does it run on mac?

[storm garden]

This is how it runs on mine

[true dawn]

ultrawide.

[storm garden]

1600p upscaled from 800p getting 47fps

[true dawn]

oof. what settings? any rt?

[storm garden]

m1 Pro doesnt support rt it is 4 years old lol

It was at medium

^ considering the macbooks have such a low power draw that this performance can sustain even without external power, I say this is impressive

[true dawn]

i mean dedicated rt hardware has been around for like 7-8 years now

[storm garden]

The oldest rt enabled macbook I am pretty sure is the M3 series

[true dawn]

i meant 3440x1440

[true dawn]

honestly, is it amazing performance? no. But its a mac

the fact its running CP2077 at all is a big w

[storm garden]

Given the conditions it is in, I would say it is

It is outperforming the switch 2, which is nice

[true dawn]

i have the AW3425DW. oled 240 hz, 0.03ms response time yatta yatta

[storm garden]

Uncharted, Spider-Man 2 and RE4 remake I guess

[true dawn]

cant even say, it changes all the time for me

re8 is my favorite of all time for me

[storm garden]

I liked RE8, wasn't anything special for me though

[true dawn]

idk, it just really clicked for me. I found it really replayable

[storm garden]

I have honestly only played through it once

[true dawn]

ive played through it at least 50 times, probably closer to 100

[storm garden]

and that was back when I was on my old GPU, lol

[true dawn]

HL Alyx is probably up there for me as well

still the best VR game yet imo

[storm garden]

The only VR game I can play is beat saber because moving around in VR makes me motion sick

[true dawn]

though there are some really close contenders these days. Just played through arkham shadow andit was amazing

[true dawn]

oh thats unfortunate. I used to get really motion sick aswell, but ive been playing vr for like 8 years now so im pretty used to it

[storm garden]

I tried minecraft in VR and it wasn't very fun lol

Well it was fun, but in the sense of feeling sick it wasn't

[true dawn]

Is that a server youre running it on? lmao

[storm garden]

A4500 is a weird GPU to have lol

[true dawn]

well yeah but those are server components

a4500 and epyc cpu are typically for an ai server or something like that

[storm garden]

1080p 30fps is insane (esp with FSR Q)

Imma see how the game runs for me with pt

I see basically no tangible benefit from using rt never mind pt

[true dawn]

his point is that its most certainly not a gaming gpu. it costs more than a 5080 but runs a lot worse in games

[storm garden]

Yup

[storm garden]

From what I can see it is around a 6800xt in terms of performance

[true dawn]

well i have a 7900 xtx, so its more of a slideshow than a game

[storm garden]

im on an xt

[true dawn]

no its definitely more than that iirc, but not as much as the price would imply

yeah i know. rdna 3 is bad at path tracing

[storm garden]

This is what techpowerup rate it as

[true dawn]

wow thats much worse than i thought

$3000 gou beat out by $500 gpu

[storm garden]

I get 50fps with path tracing at 1080p with FSR native

40fps outside lol

[true dawn]

(obviously not a fair comparison as the a4500 is not meant for gaming at all, but still)

let me try that aswell, see what i get

[storm garden]

FSR anti-aliasing

[true dawn]

what level is this

[storm garden]

to anti alias?

[true dawn]

yeah lol

[storm garden]

damn I get 160fps with path tracing off lol

[true dawn]

its exactly what it says on the tin, anti aliasing trys to remove aliasing (Grainy/low res look)

[storm garden]

Issue is that it looks really noisy, so it will be way-way-way too far in the future before we can run it well especially with the stagnation of tangible upgrades from GPU generations

[true dawn]

Doom is an nvidia partnered game

[storm garden]

What settings are on each?

[true dawn]

maximum settings at 1080 with fsr q

[storm garden]

is that pt on vs off?

[true dawn]

pt on, only difference is FG on/off

[storm garden]

ahh

[true dawn]

PT off im getting like 280 with fg

[urban valve]

Hello y'all how's everyone doing today

[storm garden]

What fps overlay is that may I ask? fraps?

[true dawn]

sometimes. i find afmf introduces some distracting artifacts sometimes though

[true dawn]

just the one thats built right into the game

[storm garden]

ohhh

I made my own fps overlay on RTSS which is inspired by the new steam one

[true dawn]

you should be able to use those on windows with a steam deck

[storm garden]

I am pretty sure you can use those on RDNA 2

[true dawn]

rdna 2 has afmf and rsr

rsr is the same as fsr pretty much, so no reason you cant use it on pretty much anything

but only because it doesnt have adrenaline i believe

[storm garden]

Does RSR run the actual game at 720p?

[true dawn]

so if you install windows and then adrenaline you can use it

[true dawn]

yes, its an upscaler

[storm garden]

I meant like the external resolution instead of internal, if so that would probably make the UI look awful

[true dawn]

rsr is pretty much just fsr but worse. so only really useful in games that dont support an upscaler

[true dawn]

yeah pretty much

RSR is useful in some cases, but i basically never use it.

[storm garden]

you have an xtx, resolution usually isn't your issue in a game

[true dawn]

even on my ally, i never use it

i know how it works lol. its an upscaler. its basically the same as fsr1

why

but if you have fsr why not use that instead

thats actually exactly how fsr works lol.

upscalers all work the same at a basic level. take a low resolution image (720p) and bring it up to a higher one (4k)

they are literally the same thing, except rsr has less information to work with

https://tenor.com/view/i'm-not-one-for-i-told-you-so-but-mike-mclusky-mayor-of-kingstown-called-it-jeremy-renner-gif-5444831237578781686

[storm garden]

That just reminds me of the bridge of good luck, babe

[true dawn]

Here is amd themselves saying they are literally the same thing

the only difference is that fsr is implemented per game, and thus has access to more data, therefore its better. meanwhile RSR is driver level and works on any game

Like i said earlier, RSR can be very nice for games without upscalers, but literally any upscaler built into the game will work better. (xess/fsr/dlss)

i mean i could do it right now if you want

i have the game open and i have an amd gpu

[storm garden]

Try DLSS 4 😄

[true dawn]

I wish. Too bad im not getting fsr4 either

[storm garden]

Did you see that on linux it is actually possible to run fsr 4 on rdna 3

Quite cool tbh

[true dawn]

yeah but it doesnt run great

[storm garden]

of course, because it is translating it

[true dawn]

maybe eventually they will optimize it enough to be worth it, and hopefully a way to do it on windows as well

[storm garden]

If they make a native fsr 4 version for rdna 3 (amd said they are trying to) it could honestly possibly run decently

[true dawn]

yeah they said that but considering its been complete silence for months...

im not holding my breath lol

[storm garden]

AMD usually do that tbf, we will just have to see tbh

Sony officially announced that FSR 4 will be added to PS5 pro, so there is hope (I think?)

[true dawn]

they also seem to not really care about rdna 3 much anymore. there was a game breaking issue on CP2077 for months and it was only fixed because of the new cp2077 update

[storm garden]

What issue?

[true dawn]

PT would crash after like 10 minutes

[storm garden]

If it was fixed with a game update, is it not safe to assume it was a game issue?

Oh, that's hardly an issue tbh

[true dawn]

AMD had it in the list of known issues, so Im pretty sure its an amd problem

[true dawn]

yeah it is, i want my pretty graphics man

[storm garden]

I would rather watch a video of someone running it on a 5090 tbh because the fps would be too low

[true dawn]

getting locked out of graphics options youre perfectly capable of running is really annoyinh

[true dawn]

i get a locked 60 with quality xess

and then frame gen up to 240

[storm garden]

See, that's nice on paper but compared to the fps you get when running without? I would much rather have that

[true dawn]

Im very cpu limited so i dont really get better fps with it off

and also pt in that game looks stunning

And also at 60 fps the input latency on frame gen is low enough I don't really mind it at all

[storm garden]

I think the game would look better at a native 4k because I would prefer clarity > pure graphics

[true dawn]

I don't have a 4k display, and xess quality/ultra quality is near indiscernible from native

[storm garden]

from what I know cyberpunk has some pretty bad AA so it usually looks quite blurry, I havent played it enough to actually see

[true dawn]

I think you misread

[true dawn]

Nope. Not anymore anyway

Looks great

[storm garden]

lms

[true dawn]

I said I could test it, not you

I was offering to show you what it looks like/how it runs

i really wouldnt stack all those

4x framegen is almost pointless on a 90hz display

[storm garden]

Well this texture is bugged lol

Idk man the anti-aliasing looks really off in this game

[true dawn]

looks perfect for me

forget about PT lol

[storm garden]

I can notice a lot of dithering and some pretty heavy noise in grated surfaces

[true dawn]

its a steam deck, it will probably just crash

[true dawn]

ive got basically none of that

im using XESS 2.0 and it looks great

PT

RT at max

no RT

[storm garden]

Yeah I would just leave it off

[true dawn]

IMO PT looks absolutely incredible, just how much more realistically everything is lit. You dont realize how bad the rasterized lighting is until you really see PT

and this is only showing basic lighting

its so much more noticible on coloured lights, and how it lights character models

and the reflections arent even comparable. Non RT reflections look terrible in comparison

[true dawn]

I wouldnt play this game without RT to be honest

it benefits from it so much with how mand light sources and reflective surfaces there are

[storm garden]

When I am playing an fps I would always rather take the path with a lower input latency

[true dawn]

yeah but cyberpunk isnt really a twitch shooter

60 feels fine

cyberpunk is an open world RPG. I barely even use guns lol

[storm garden]

It's fine, yeah. But with a very minimal decrease in quality with an increased res and fps, I would always rather have that

[true dawn]

but i dont think the increase in quality is minimal

i think its a massive step up

just look at literally any reflective surface and its instantly obvious

[storm garden]

That sounds like a poor rasterised implementation of reflections

[true dawn]

no its not

rasterized reflections simply cannot ever look as good as RT reflections

[storm garden]

I have a comparison between the rt reflections vs raster in sm2 and the raster looks better

[true dawn]

well idk what to tell you

I think the rt reflections are much better

in sm2 and cp2077

[storm garden]

Rt reflections are usually more accurate but they usually look worse because you have to lower the resolution of the reflections to make it playable

[true dawn]

maybe if youre on low settings?

on max they are native res i believe

or at least i cannot tell the difference

[storm garden]

Max then you just get really bad frame rates

[true dawn]

but you dont

i get 60 fps on max settings on a card that was not even meant to do PT

[storm garden]

At 1080p

[true dawn]

nope

3440x1440

[storm garden]

Did you say xess ultra quality or quality

[true dawn]

whatever man, this convo is obviously going nowhere

clearly i cannot change your mind if 1:1 comparisons cant

[storm garden]

I will do a comparison later when I have free time

Here is your rt vs raster on sm2 (I took these images for hdr comparisons hence them not being screenshots)

[true dawn]

thats a config issue lmfao

[storm garden]

How

[true dawn]

wtf that looks horrible, mine looks nothing like that

reflections are pretty crisp for me

[storm garden]

Right is ps5 fyi I would have to test it on pc

But the right image is what rt usually looks like for me which is why I usually go with raster

[silk iron]

yo someone help me with my doom eternal game

[true dawn]

ive literally never played a game with rt reflections that bad

blame sony, not the technology

[silk iron]

i was js playing sum doom eternal, then suddenly my game becomes a fucking slideshow
but oddly enough my FPS counter only dipped to 120 FPS from the usual 165, which is weird because it isnt below 30 FPS when looking like its running at 4 frames per minute

[storm garden]

My point is that raster can still look good

[true dawn]

i didnt say it cant? i just said RT looks much better

[storm garden]

It usually looks comparable

[true dawn]

not really

[storm garden]

If a game has a good implementation of ssr matched with cube mapsit does

[true dawn]

raster reflections are also extremely time consuming to make, where as rt reflections are literally on off

[storm garden]

With the cost of an arm and a leg being needed to run it

[true dawn]

yeah and that takes forever to make. and ssr has some massive limits

[true dawn]

again, we are going in circles. the fps cost really isnt that much

[storm garden]

When you're cpu bound sure

[true dawn]

and it being costly doesnt mean its bad? does having good quality textures and resolution also bad?

[storm garden]

Textures aren't costly if you have the vram for it and to me an increase in resolution is much more noticeable

[true dawn]

just because you dont see the differences doesnt mean others dont

to me RT vs non RT is extremely noticible for most games

wether its worth the performance hit depends on the game

its no difference than any other graphical setting

[storm garden]

Rt vs non rt I can get but rt vs pt I can't

[oblique oyster]

PT is just RT on roids

[true dawn]

PT is more of a feature for later gpu generations

right now only a few gpus can run it decently

basically only the 4080/5080 and their variants and the 4090/5090

only game i actually use PT on is CP2077, where fps doesnt matter that much as long as its at least 60 imo

[storm garden]

You're pretty much putting all your luck into the denoiser to hope it looks good

[true dawn]

it does a decent job

nvidia looks much better but even on my gpu it looks pretty amazing

[storm garden]

Fsr 4 is getting a denoiser too

[true dawn]

yeah well about that

I use a denoiser from a mod

works well enough, looks much better than native. theres also mods to make PT run better at the cost of looking a bit worse

[storm garden]

I'm gonna have a look at how well the rt is myself

I'll backpedal on my statement if it looks good

[true dawn]

non RT

RT

[storm garden]

Does the game also freeze for you when loading

[true dawn]

yeah

[storm garden]

Those raster reflections look so ass tbh

[true dawn]

yep

[storm garden]

For some reason turning on RT just deletes these posters from the reflection

[true dawn]

are rt reflections on?

[storm garden]

Yes

[true dawn]

maybe a driver issue or something? idk

you can see from my screenshot it works perfectly for me

[storm garden]

It'll be a limited object range

Rt on definitely looks better but it isn't half the fps better for me

[true dawn]

let me find something similar to compare

[storm garden]

Don't get me wrong.. I agree with you RT always looks better, my point being that I don't see the tradeoff as enticing

[true dawn]

well obviously you value different things than i do

i would rather have better graphics and 60 fps than worse graphics and 120 in a game like this

[storm garden]

That's totally fine, if you enjoy the better graphics, so be it. I am sorry if it felt like I was trying to force you to stop using RT / PT

[shadow willow]

Is the right doom?

[storm garden]

Watch out, the nintendo ninjas are about

[urban valve]

Cyberpunk 😍

[true dawn]

im still curious about this build

you do ai or smth?

oh that makes more sense. Just fyi see if theres a different system you can stream. the system you are using is not meant for gaming

if you cant, then maybe get geforce now instead?

I dont believe you have to wait if you pay for a subscription. and youll at least get a wayy better gaming experience

sure, but geforce now is a good temporary replacement until then

I dont think game streaming is a stupid idea, not everyone can afford a console. and game streaming makes games more accesable

many people may have a phone, but cant afford a console. So they can just pay for a streaming service and play all the games they want

oh, then why not just play tda on that

youll get much better graphics

yeah but its at 1080 with dlss quality and 30fps

that is much worse quality than console

im talking about the screenshot earlier when you were using path tracing

yeah, thats bad lol

console is running at something similar to high-max settings at 4k60

yeah ik thats what im saying lol

yes?

[true dawn]

just keep in mind the mobile 5080 is much weaker than the regular one

not saying its a bad laptop or anything, im just making sure youre aware

you would be suprised how many morons think they perform identically

more like overkill lol. I would def reccomend getting that oled screen

im very well aware.

but the majority consumers dont get that, they see 5080 and think it means 5080

but 1440 is way better

and you have the hardware to push it, so i think thats the better option

is the oled higher refresh rate too? what are the full specs

also i should add oled is just way better in general than IPS

what is?

Nah, its a 5080m, its gonna crush basically every game at 1440

you can always use dlss if you want more performance

performance hit?

dlss makes the game run better, not worse

oh like compared to 1080p native

yes it is relatively light and looks way better than 1080 native.

I know what dlss is..

yes, i say go with that

esspecially if youre playing somewhat older games you will regret only being on 1080

Ive used both 1080 and 1440 displays quite extensively, and 1440 just looks so much better. I would rather have 1440 and ultra performance dlss than 1080

even text is so much more crisp, makes productivity a lot nicer

Unfortunately you cant get a 4k monitor the size and aspect ratio of mine.

[burnt timber]

Who are you talking to

[storm garden]

I think the guy left or something

[daring quail]

He was being an asshole even to the admin so he got kicked out

Basically, he joined a few days ago, but he's already involved in multiple arguments in chat

[true dawn]

Voices in my head, obviously

[dreamy bolt]

Oled is definitely way better for gaming than IPS, imo.
Been using IPS monitor for years and they are good, color quality and wide angle range and ofc they have a long life durability.

[urban valve]

Hey guys I have a question

What do y'all think about using PS3 controllers on PC?

[final mortar]

It's a little weird since Playstation has a weird button layout, but thats just my opinion

[urban valve]

What about a WIi u pro controller

[final mortar]

Dunno, never used one

[storm garden]

You'll be fine

I used a dualsense for the game and had no issues

[dreamy bolt]

not sure if its supported in Steam, for example

but should work normally

[storm garden]

I'm pretty sure a ps3 controller would show up as a generic xbox 360 controller in windows

[burnt timber]

it should but i don't have a cable to try

my ps3 fightstick works with steam

[brazen heath]

Hey guys I’m a bit new here but could you tell me what is better to play doom on console or pc?

[storm garden]

It depends on the PC and console you have

if you want a guaranteed stable experience (and you aren't on series s), console should be fine

[brazen heath]

Thanks for the response

[storm garden]

No problem! The game runs well on PC, given that your PC is capable.

[dreamy bolt]

PC better imo

better experience with more FPS

[urban valve]

Not always

There is bad PCs you know

[dreamy bolt]

forgot that part, if you have a good PC indeed 😄

[empty patrol]

this good for the price? I want good aesthetics but still good performance

wait add a 1tb NVMe, I forgot to add one

so the price is more like 610-620 ish

[storm garden]

Seems decent

dont know how good the cpu cooler is tho

[empty patrol]

ZTT uses it and he says it's a great value CPU Cooler

[west fable]

Why does Doom Eternal js break my pc on launch

Like I tab out for like a second and then it fails

Like I tab back to Doom Eternal

But its not tabbing back cuz my mouse pointer doesn't become doom's

Then its stuck and then i have to force shut my pc down

Which probably corrupts some files

[storm garden]

my best guess is that it is somewhat related to using fullscreen, have you tried borderless windowed?

[west fable]

No

Prob my fault then

[dreamy bolt]

I guess is time for a change

[storm garden]

Very good cpu but if I am totally honest it's the worst 9000x3D cpu

[urban valve]

Does anyone have an idea on this controller?

Sorry for the quality of the pic 🙏🏿

[sullen nacelle]

It was a gamestop exclusive controller that they don't make anymore. It wasn't bad, but better brands are now on the market with way more features.

[urban valve]

I got it for 13 bucks is it a good deal?

[sullen nacelle]

For standard alps sticks it's fine.

It will get drift eventually.

[left fiber]

I actually had the 360 version of this controller! It was decently ok.

[urban valve]

I'll just use it till I get a good one

Thx for helping

[sullen nacelle]

No problem. I suggest in the future looking at 8bitdo, or GameSir brand controllers specifically the models that have hall effect, or TMR sticks as they won't get stick drift that easy since it uses magnetic senors.

[urban valve]

Im probably getting a game sir yeah it looks so good

[sullen nacelle]

It's a very reliable, and solid brand

[urban valve]

Yeah I found one for around 60$-100

[dreamy bolt]

Why so?

[storm garden]

the 9900x3D has 2 CCDs with 6 cores, so only 6 cores have access to the 3D cache as opposed to the 9800x3D and 9950x3D which have 8. So essentially in games the 9000x3D has equal performance to the 9600x3D.

It isn't a big difference though, don't worry the 9900x3D is still a great CPU

(Way better than mine)

[dreamy bolt]

Yea I just didn't want to upgrade Intel again because they are lately or from what I heard, bad

[storm garden]

Oh yeah, definitely

[crude willow]

yo!i'm getting an error saying sorry,something went wrong,what should i do?

[true dawn]

this feels cobbled together from aliexpress listings

[empty patrol]

How's it looking currently in terms of cable management? I don't have the APU, RAM, or Storage yet so the CPU Cooler can't be properly installed

[storm garden]

Looking good

[urban valve]

Guys I have a question

Is it okay to buy a PC with the ryzen 5 5600g and use it for like 2-3 weeks then buy a dedicated GPU?

[storm garden]

Yeah, no issue with that

[empty patrol]

yeah its a good apu

if you want gpu recommendations, the Battlemage B580/RTX 4060/RX 6650 XT are all great options, and a 6600 is another great budget option

[urban valve]

Like even if the wait is only 2 weeks ?

[empty patrol]

yeah, afterall, you still have a good cpu and back up integrated graphics

[urban valve]

Cus I really don't wanna wait that much to play some games I've been waiting for a long time

[urban valve]

Aight appreciate it

I might either get the 3060 or the 6600

[empty patrol]

if you want to be patient, you COULD buy a 5600 non G instead sinec they are the same price range and the 5600 is a bit better but I dont think the gap is too significant

[empty patrol]

3060 is honestly not worth it unless if you buy used

[urban valve]

Yeah only the l3 cache

[empty patrol]

the Arc B580 is genarally similar in price and outperforms it in everything

and the 6600 is stil goated

[urban valve]

Not really an Intel guy

[empty patrol]

i mean that's fair, but again, the 6650 XT is also a similar price to a 3060 and outperforms it in everything, if you need NVIDIA features than the 3060 is a good option tho

especioally since the 3060 Ti is kinda hard to get new now

[urban valve]

Dépenses on the price I don't live in the us so prices are higher I might really just get a 6600 Greta performance in 1080p high to ultra

[empty patrol]

fair enough

what games do you plan on playing anyways?

[urban valve]

Resident evil franchise ghost of tushima rdr2 a bit of doom Ethernal and a few like those

My old laptop has been holding me from playing with good graphics

[empty patrol]

alright I was expecting DOOM TDA since the 6600 is actually a bit below the minimum specs i believe

[urban valve]

I don't really wanna play it

[empty patrol]

wait no it IS the minimum specs

[urban valve]

It works tho with some fsr actions

[urban valve]

You should consider that the minimum specs are not always true

[empty patrol]

yeah I know that, I usually just try to get parts that are at least in between minimum and recommended for the games I personally play

just for a peace of mind

[urban valve]

I'll probably just be playing Minecraft 😭

[urban valve]

Yeah then you'd be sure

[storm garden]

Just fyi, I wouldn't really recommend going for a B580 because that GPU tends to suffer really bad CPU overheads when it comes to weaker CPUs, the 5600 being one weak enough to cause a drop in performance. This video explains it well:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=00GmwHIJuJY&t=23s

[stable pulsar]

how does one upgrade this absoloute atrocity given its lowk just horrible

[true dawn]

Well it's an am4 mb so you have a lot of options for a new cpu

A 5800x3d and a 7800 xt would be a sweet combo

All depends on your budget. How much are you looking to spend? @stable pulsar

[stable pulsar]

around 550 pounds or so

[true dawn]

And is the PC only for gaming or do you need it for other things

[vestal crest]

why people are not talkinig about old pcs cuz doom can run on almost any thing xd

[stable pulsar]

i kinda fell asleep for 12 hours

its pretty much just gaming

[empty patrol]

is this a good price?

[stable pulsar]

for that monitor yes but you can still get better ones for around the same price

[empty patrol]

ight gotchu

[modern bronze]

how good is 7800x3d

[slate brook]

Really good

[storm garden]

Near enough the best gaming cpu

If you are buying a cpu dedicated to multicore performance, there are better options

[modern bronze]

I have 5800x

[modern bronze]

Is this good for gaming

[earnest rampart]

alright, who has a lian li rgb aio?

[vernal lynx]

Don't talk like that about my boy GTX 1650

[urban valve]

The motherboard is gonna get fried

[true dawn]

?

[urban valve]

He probably has a Budget mobo

A good cpu will fry it

[true dawn]

That's not really how that works

[pine gale]

the x7800x3d is limited in powerdraw and you cannot overclock it, it will run on nealry every budget mobo, no problem for the vrms, same goes for the 5800x3d.

even the multiplicator is locked on x7800x3d and 5800x3d (9000 x3d series is the first one where the multiplicator is not locked on x3d cpus)

[urban valve]

You do you aight

[empty wraith]

Is it over clocked?

[vernal lynx]

Im running a 4060 rn but the 1650 was the cornerstone of my pc for the longest time

[empty wraith]

Try overclocking it

[vernal lynx]

The 1650? I don't have it anymore in my pc

[empty wraith]

I mean the 4060 bro...

[vernal lynx]

Aight, i really dont need to though. Im getting enough performance and I don't think my powersupply would like that…

[empty wraith]

It's gonna be a ridiculously high frame boost if you do, like 40% more fps if u add like 1k clocks peed and 2k memory speed

[vernal lynx]

165 hz monitor so wont benefit in anyway but thanks for the tip! If i run into performance issues i will try this

[empty wraith]

Is your ram at least maxed out? 🤔

[pine gale]

you cannot overclock an ada gpu with normal cooling and voltage with + 1000mhz on core clock, ada usually hits a limit around 3ghz core clock and already this does not do every gpu.

[empty wraith]

Yeah you can dude, just gonna be hotter

[pine gale]

you need voltage mods and special cooling for that.

[empty wraith]

Maybe not as strong as 1000mhz clock speed but yeah you don't need that much cooling for it, it's gonna max out at like 80 degrees

[pine gale]

without voltage mod you will not reach much over 3ghz core clock, the gpu gets unstable.

[empty wraith]

Just use msi after burner they do it in a reasonable thing with saftey mechs

[pine gale]

it does not matter which programm you use, ada does not clock that high without a voltage mod!

[empty wraith]

Okey dude

[true dawn]

what gpu are you ocing a full 2 ghz on the mem speed

[empty wraith]

Rtx 4070 ti super

[pine gale]

some gpu/ram configuration hit + 2ghz in msi afterburner with ada and probably blackwall.

but gives you only some fps if your are memory constraint (and nearly no fps if you ar not) but tetris told things like 40% or so with overlocking an ada gpu 🤣 thats not realistic.

so increasing the memory frequency in msi afterburger to + 2000, in reality the internal freuquceny icreases from 1313mhz to 1563.... so 250 mhz (or msi afterburner tells you 10500 + 2000 --> 12500)

[true dawn]

"Afterburger" lol

[true dawn]

Yeah I can't imagine +1ghz clock speed is stable lol. And 40% is a ridiculous amount of gain.

[pine gale]

+it is not really 1ghz it is 1000/8 .... thats the internal clock increase.

[true dawn]

Oh. I don't use afterburner

[pine gale]

and +40% is not reachable with an overclock on an ada gpu in day to day use with normal overclocking methods without voltages mods and special cooling. he clearly does not know what he is talking about.

[true dawn]

So I didn't realize

[reef ginkgo]

#community-support

[modern bronze]

Is dell good gaming montier

[true dawn]

depends. Alienware OLEDs are pretty good

I have an ultrawide OLED Dell/alienware.

[final mortar]

This a problem I haven't seen before, I'd recommend changing some of the in game settings first

[empty patrol]

2 opposite sides of the spectrum

[gritty oak]

The reinstall fixed it and also somehow gave me more frames without changing any settings. Idk what happened but hey its working better than before lol

[final mortar]

I didn't even know that would work, but yw ig

[cunning pike]

https://steamcommunity.com/app/3017860/discussions/0/599652477751580638/?l=french&ctp=7
hope links are allowed here.
I have been having this issue since launch. I have tried just about everything and still nothing. my game refuses to go above 50fps even if i change my resolution to the lowest possible option so i know it's not my rig.
i9 9900k
rtx 3090
32gb ddr4
running game on 3440 x 1440 144hz monitor

[grizzled arrow]

Why is she your pfp😭

[empty wraith]

Why not

Of models pretty good at cosplaying

[native glacier]

Yo I just did doom dark ages belly of beast then loaded harbour of souls then put me in menu now I have to redo belly of beast because harbour of souls is locked? I’m trying to get podium skin but super hard cause I have to keep replaying the levels then just to do that over again :((

[rotund gust]

idk if that is a glitch but it said i finished it but 6 demons were missing
is that a glitch or what happened here?

[mighty kiln]

there seems to be a bug with dark ages after the recent update, i like playing without music, but after the recent update, music still plays during the opening cutscene for each level

and i'm not sure if it's a bug or not, but the weapons also don't have their skins applied when picking them up, they only show when the slayer examines them

[grizzled arrow]

https://tenor.com/view/ebspark-eb-spark-eb-spark-ego-gif-11106624287947924041

[mighty kiln]

i honestly can't tell what it is you are trying to convey with this gif

[empty patrol]

this is probably the worst value 3050 I've seen but IT LOOKS SO GOOD

[grizzled arrow]

you play without music🥀

[mighty kiln]

ah, not on my first playthough, i like doing it without music for the realism

[grizzled arrow]

doom guy got a hello kitty headset under the helmet

[empty patrol]

Doom Guy probably plays WoW Classic religiously

[storm garden]

No idea how the 3050's value could get even worse 😭

[empty patrol]

200 is already pushing it, 300 is just straight up heresy

[storm garden]

honestly at that price point used is way more valuable

[empty patrol]

unless if you need, Nvidia's tech, just go with a 6600

[grizzled arrow]

4.5 is crazy

[storm garden]

That was literally what I was gonna say lol

[empty patrol]

I FOUND IT

THE ONE PIECE IS REAL

[mighty kiln]

ok, found another cutscene where the music is playing when it shouldn't, the ending cutscene for chapter 5

[cunning pike]

still need help

[true dawn]

do not buy a 5050.

[empty patrol]

oh I won't, but I feel like I just found a goldern turd in Amazon

I'll likely buy anything from a 6600 to a B580, depending on what Power Supply I get

[storm garden]

I wouldnt suggest intel either until they fix their CPU overhead

[vagrant carbon]

What gpu driver should I use that also works for doom TDA? Nvidia RTX 4060 laptop

The last drivers are driving me crazy….doom tda is literally unplayable with gsync on/off and any other adjustments

I am already using digital foundry settings for my gpu, windows 11 ltsc fresh installed, no overheating. Max 65 degrees gpu, 80 degrees cpu

Full specs: Ryzen 5 7640HS, 32GB, RTX 4060, nvme storage

The game ran like butter on release and now when I came back to it its running like a hot pile of crap. I am getting consistently over 90 fps, the frame times are good but the image feels jittery and unstable

[storm garden]

566.36 is generally known for being the most recent nvidia driver which is stable

[modern bronze]

Is 5800x still good for gaming in 2025

[storm garden]

It's decent yeah

[small lake]

Not sure if this belongs here or TDA channel but, I am on chapter 13 and had around 9 hours of playtime on the gamepass version of Dark Ages, however when I "glory kill" the spider mastermind with the stomp animation or the mancubus boss that is required to glory kill by ripping his heart out for the upgrade, my game crashes with a bugsplat crash report, I have full reinstalled the game, used different drivers, changed my settings and even ran my fans at max speed despite them being cool and not having any issues with glory kill animations or a single crash up until this point, I can replay full chapters before 13 without a problem (rtx 4060)

Edit: after testing in previous levels it does not freeze from glorykill animations or in the ripatorium, only chapter 13 at the mancubus leader

[storm garden]

Hmm weird

I guess just to rule out any issues with your os install, you could run sfc /scannow in command prompt (as administrator)

[small lake]

found corrupted files but still insta closes and sends the bug report when I glory kill

[modern bronze]

Well im not upgrade until AM6 come out

[empty patrol]

still not bad at all

what would be the best GPU for my CPU, I'm currently making a PC with a Ryzen 5 8600G and I want to upgrade the integrated graphics after a few months since I can't afford an adequate GPU for a bit since I want to move to AM5 so I won't need to upgrade for a while and getting both a GPU and AM5 is out of my current budget.

[modern bronze]

Im using 5070 with 5800x

[ember crypt]

Erm, hello? I have a problem with doom the dark ages

[final mortar]

What's the problem?

[ember crypt]

The game just crash on me now, I just see the bug crash report, It was working just fine on release for me and go to chapter.. 19 I think but now is just crash
I don't see the game but I can hear ID intro
And then crash

[final mortar]

Is your storage full?

[ember crypt]

Erm no, I have plenty of space

[final mortar]

Do you have at least the minimum requirements for all of the game to run?

[ember crypt]

I was able to play the game on ultra after release

So yeah I would say so I do, but for real yes I do, I have a powerful PC

As I say I got to chapter 19 or 22 don't remember

[final mortar]

Then it's probably an update bug or something, they might fix it soon dw, but for now send a ticket through Bethesda support

[ember crypt]

All right, sounds fair

[empty patrol]

there was a god damn lizard on my floor

[slate flicker]

https://tenor.com/view/gex-my-beloved-gif-2467151275061588724

[empty patrol]

my kitty bit off it's leg and tail

[slate flicker]

Gex is fucking dead 😢

[hazy zenith]

dlaa maxed with wiht PT ..its killing a 4090

path tracing cost me 90 fps

150fps on quality mode

45 fps is sluggish

a 4090 has 24 gb of vram .why does it show 19?

15gb of vram for dlaa

[modern bronze]

50 series has alot problem with some games

[hazy zenith]

i made a mistake

i wasnt gettin 150fps on pt ..that was on rt

its around 80 to 90 fps on qulaity mode on PT

so i lost half

[neon lotus]

R u using mod or us this actually in game??

[spring vale]

my game stops on this screen anyone know how to fix?

[storm garden]

Could windows defender be blocking the game?

[lean marten]

this is the most god damn annoying bug ever

it wasnt always this bad, sometimes I could still play the game but this has been lasting for so long now I genuinely don't think I can play doom TDA anymore. I never had this issue until the update happened

okay as I sent this it finally launched but the fact I have to spend 5 minutes doing that just to play the game is horrific

[modern bronze]

I haven't played it since launched

[hazy zenith]

no mods

[remote acorn]

Update your drivers..

[lean marten]

I set the launcher pop ups to 0 and it works perfectly fine now. It was literally the launcher itself that was fucking me over

[modern bronze]

Is boom arm bar mic worth getting

[devout tartan]

Anyone found a way to install reshade to doom eternal after the mod launcher update?

[storm garden]

If you really need hyper-clear audio from your mic, sure. If you are only using it to comm, probably not.

[hollow salmon]

help plssss i completed all lvls at least 7 times and watched all vids bout collectibles n still dont know why tf i have mod-bot on taras nabad when nobody have ts, and same issue on 5, 7, 8, 9, 11 and 13. how tf i should complete 100% of game. and i have one more shit in launcher, when i want to launched game with mods "Please consult the DOOM Eternal documentation site for further assistance. If this problem persists, please try reinstalling the application." pops up, its not a mod problems, i launched without and with one most popular mod with "play with mods" button

[warm moat]

Question I had in #community-support but I feel like I should've asked in this channel

[storm garden]

I had this issue when watching youtube on a 2nd display with the game open

[warm moat]

Did you ever fix it

[storm garden]

I only could fix it by not watching youtube unfortunately

I recall there also being an issue linked to windowed borderless / fullscreen so maybe switching between those could help?

[warm moat]

I play in normal windowed mode but I'll try that

Thanks

[warm moat]

it only delayed the fps drop

before i have to restart the game again to fix it

[storm garden]

Do you have metrics enabled? If so, when your fps drops, is your vram usage close to max?

[warm moat]

I think so?

I'll check when I can

[storm garden]

Just lmk 🙏

[warm moat]

like this? first screenshot's before the fps drop, and the others are during the steady drop

[storm garden]

I guess you could try lowering the vran pool size

[warm moat]

i tried that already 😔

[storm garden]

The only other thing I can think of is thermal throttling

[warm moat]

that's probably it, the gpu number thingys at the top looks like it keeps lowering overtime

and my laptop does get a bit hot

i dunno how to fix this

and i dunno why this started to happen one day

[storm garden]

I'm not sure

have you tried dropping your driver version down to 566.36? That is a known stable nvidia driver which could help.

[warm moat]

wait that could work, i had that version before and the issue started after i updated it to the latest version

[storm garden]

Hopefully it works 🙏

[warm moat]

ill try tomorrow since it's almost 1 AM for me 🙏

[empty patrol]

ok so I tried to take off my USB3.0 header on my motherboard and the black shroud straight up came off revealing the pins, is my motherboard fucked?

I don't trust myself to put the cable and shroud back on

[warm moat]

IT WORKS

30 MINS AND NO SIGN OF THE STUPID FPS DROP SO FAR

TYSM BRO

yoo it actually works now ty

been almost an hour without issues

[storm garden]

No worries! I have no idea what nvidia are doing, their recent drivers have been awful

[quaint otter]

Hi, im sure this has been asked a ton but i havent found an answer yet. Tryna stream doom '16 to discord, ive tried streaming both the application and the full screen, as well as changing literally every setting, and the literal only way to make it work is unmaxxed windowed, which is just unplayable. Im on an rtx 5070 with an rx9070 and 32 gbs ddr5. Any ideas?