tech-talk

[torn elm]

despite 3 of those 10 having 2 gb vram less than minimum spec

[pine gale]

no, the only on gpu below min spec was the 1050

[torn elm]

Right, and it still runs doom eternal at 60 fps low sertings

[pine gale]

and this could even start the game

[torn elm]

And it’s over 8 years old, what’s the point?

[pine gale]

this is also not what the hardwarerequirments say, it say low settings for mit spec!

[torn elm]

Do you really wanna run tda at less than 50 fps?

[torn elm]

What are you talking about

The 1050 can achieve 60 fps on doom eternal 1080p

Despite being slightly underspec

Just like the 2060, and the 3050 and the 3060 laptop version

[true dawn]

doom games have always pushed bounderies for graphics. Doom 3 was stupid hard to run at the time, and quake didnt work on anything without a 3d accelerator

aka what most people had

[pine gale]

these are min specs,

they are for LOW settings as in doom eternal

[true dawn]

dark ages being full RT is not exceptions

[torn elm]

“Why can’t my 8 year old hardware run a modern AAA game”

[true dawn]

idgaf what the requirements say, theres almost 0 performance difference between low and high

[torn elm]

Like dawg, you were gonna get 10 fps even if Id software DID allow you to play

[torn elm]

Plus the visual leap between TDA and Eternal is a LOT more than 2016 and Eternal

Personally I think in some areas 2016 looks better than eternal

[pine gale]

doom 2016 and eternal looked already good and they were very scalable. for me it is a technical downfall.

and in vr, where the resolution really matters the downfall is even higher...

[torn elm]

Yeah and TDA looks far better than both games. More immersive world, hell of a lot more enemies, more realistic visually and generally just a lot more assets being rendered in

You may like the look of eternal and 2016 more that’s upto you, but graphically TDA is far better

[pine gale]

it is better but it is to hungry for the improvement especially because it is force with no other options, they went the wrong way.

[torn elm]

My guy are you broken?

7 years to upgrade your equipment “too hungry for improvement” my ass

[pine gale]

i can play it in flat and i have don it, i have a stronger ada-generation card (4090) but i play also games in vr and i see how much of an techical downfall it is compared to the previous titles in terms of ressource usage especially in vr and for handhelds.

also player don't go very well with dark ages compared to eternal (included clair obscure because it is a day one gamepass game as well)

[torn elm]

Who plays non vr titles in vr?

[torn elm]

Doom tda out sold eternal overall, Bethesda and Id software confirmed it. Steam charts alone mean nothing

[pine gale]

not on steam, rest: time will tell

[torn elm]

Ah yes steam the one and only source of information

[pine gale]

not on steam, probably they count players sthat started the game on xbox gamepass...

[torn elm]

Yeah, and doom eternal was also released on game pass too

Both games came out on steam and game pass. And TDA outsold eternal overall

Did your acceptance letter from Harvard come in yet?

[pine gale]

no, doom eternal did not launch on gamepass, it was added later

[torn elm]

It was released on game pass in the same year as steam

What difference does it make to overall sales

People had a cheaper option with game pass and they took it, no big surprise

If you hate doom and progression in games just say it, constantly making up bullshit to make a point isn’t gonna make you sound smart, your just digging a bigger hole

[pine gale]

i hate that they did a turnaround from one of the examples of the best optimized games to what we see. i hate that i see a downfall in vr because the previouse titles did sacle much better with higher resolutions and because of that, they don't look worse in vr, where high resolution is needed...

i hate that they exclude gpus that are more than capable to run the game because they are as or more powerfull that current console gpus, because they were did not include a setting tun a feature off that was not neede before!

I hate that doom dark ages runs now like shit on popular handhelds and this is espicially sad because 2016 and eternal were great example on these handheld

.... all because of this stupid decision they have done, because of what? the did not want to include a baked in lighting option?...

[torn elm]

1. Who the hell plays VR for doom eternal and tda

2. The GPUs are at the same inclusivity level at the time of release and on average steam charts

3. Those handhelds came out after the games release, and again, the switch ran eternal terribly

4. The game looks much better than eternal and 2016 and would have come out years after it did

We covered all of this how have you not seen this

[pine gale]

why do they not include a baked in light option to go away from all this disadvantages?

i still don't get that...

[torn elm]

Becuase it would have taken the dev team years longer, despite having a huge team of talented developers

There are other developers in this sever for different games and you can ask them how time consuming it is

And it allows more freedom for modders too

[pine gale]

do they have so slow hardware that they don't can do what other dev teams can do?

no! it is still a mystery why they did not include an option

[torn elm]

It has the same time inclusivity of release date, and average steam numbers. So where’s the harm?

[torn elm]

A lot of dev teams and modders have high end. Especially for triple AAA games that don’t use ray tracing or have it as an option

[pine gale]

this is where doom original came from....

it was very well optimized, doom 2016 and doom eternal also honored that and now you have doom tda (exclusive feature, more hardware hungry, does not look that much better ...)

[torn elm]

There’s no getting through to you

Keep believing in whatever bs cope you have, it’s gonna get you nowhere

[pine gale]

try to defend decision that don't benefit the users ...

[torn elm]

It benifits everyone who doesn’t use VR for non VR games and upgraded their hardware in the last decade

[pine gale]

so does it benefit steam deck users? tell me?

who does really benefit from not including a baked in lighting option?

[torn elm]

Maybe steam deck 2 users lmao, the steam deck didn’t exist when eternal was released

[torn elm]

Like I said, anyone who’s upgraded their hardware in the last 7 years

[pine gale]

why is it better to not have a baked in lighting option, tell me?

[torn elm]

Saves time and it looks better

[pine gale]

it does not look better because it is "OPTIONAL" like in cyberpunk 2077, rt and pt is optional in cyberpunk 2077

[torn elm]

Ray tracing looks objectively better than baked, wtf are you talking about hahaha

[pine gale]

a baked in light option does not take anything away it just make the game more accessable and more scalable.

[torn elm]

Why do you even care, the game has a 7 year forgiving window

VR is THAT important?

[pine gale]

thats also techical not always true and depinding how many rays you shoot out and bounces etc.

[torn elm]

Any game worth its money has better rt than raster

[pine gale]

as long as raytracing is as slow as it is in higher resolutions it should always be optional...

[torn elm]

Don’t own a 4k monitor if you ain’t got a GPU that can play 4k

And don’t play non VR games in VR. Bad experience

[pine gale]

as i sad i own a 4090 but in vr i have to push far above 4k.

[torn elm]

You own a 4090? Dawg what are you complaining about then

And on top of that you can use framegen if you have to push above 4k, but this game neither doom eternal were made for vr, the amount of people that play non vr games in vr is MINISCULE

[pine gale]

with the current mod you cannot use framegeneration in vr.

and even framegeneration has a cost that goes up with resolution and in vr latency is really important. framegeneration adds latency.

[torn elm]

regardless, this is a silly reason to even hate the games lighting this much because of vr

[pine gale]

it is one reason, a steam deck user has another, a 1080ti user another and the list goes on ...

[torn elm]

too bad, didnt upgrade your tech in the last 7 years

[true dawn]

its a $400 handheld from 4 years ago what

its not exactly shocking it doesnt run amazing

[pine gale]

i upgraded my system but i am still affected by this bullshit decision to force things the scale badly.

[torn elm]

"but it runs cyberpunk" yeah a game that came out in 2018 at 40 fps ooo

[true dawn]

2020

[torn elm]

your using vr, nobody does that, literally nobody

[torn elm]

sorry 2020

[true dawn]

what is this screenshot supposed to mean

[pine gale]

he several times said i did not upgrade my hardware.

i have a capable gpu and i am still affected by the decision not to include a baked in lighting option.

i already explained here that i am using the hardware #tech-talk message but he still did not get that.

[true dawn]

hes not saying that to you, hes just saying it as a defense for non rt not being supported

reading comprehension ultra nightmare difficulty

[pine gale]

no, he did not get that #tech-talk message

[true dawn]

literally a message of him acknowledging your specs

[pine gale]

scalability is very important for video game in my opinion.

doom 2016 and doom eternal were great in this regard and doom the dakr ages is terms of scalability really a letdown especially compared to its predecessors.

that is not a good thing that is bad thing.

many people do understand this but it looks like some don't. and it probably harms the game on the longrun and maybe idsoftware reputation and this was all avoidable... just by adding one option ... but they don't wanted to spend the ressources on that ....

john carmack, one of the founders of idsoftware, was very behind optimization, i am curious how he thinks about doom dark ages and how it excludes hardware that is capable of playing it....

[marble bough]

Hey - I hope there are plans to give dark ages mouse and keyboard support on series x - if there is one game that actually needs it it would be this - one needs to slay with precision 😎

[torn elm]

Sliders turned all the way up

[torn elm]

idk about him but John Ramero said he loves it, and that its optimized wonderfully

[burnt timber]

TDA is amazingly optimised

runs super stable on a 4060, a notoriously crap gpu

[torn elm]

hell, runs stable on a 3050, the bane of nvidia gpus

[burnt timber]

guys doom eternal is badly optimised. my 386 runs doom just fine

artificial gatekeeping

[torn elm]

Doom is poorly optimized I can play Tetris on my self made circuit

[pine gale]

if you compare it to doom eternal it is a large stepdown.

it also is more about scalability. doom eternal runs well on steam deck even with higher settings, doom tda does not, it runs poorly even with the lowest!

and a faster pace first person shooter has to run well. t
his is not optional this is more or less mandatory for this type of game and gameplay....

[torn elm]

[mild oar]

I am running a 7900 XTX for TDA. I am finding the TAA upscale to look infinitely better than FRS. Am I doing something wrong?

[naive pasture]

Nice, I can just leave without interacting

and then fall through the map

Wonderfull!

[burnt timber]

if you compare doom 2 to doom 3 it is a lage step down

[pine gale]

doom 3 was for many players a letdown because of switching to more horror and slower gameplay, but other the doom the dark ages it was at least a massiv graphical leaop over doom 2 and doom tda is not a massiv graphical leap over doom eternal.

also i think doom 3 still looks still interesting its age.

i've played a little bit on a meta quest 😄

[burnt timber]

doom tda is not a massiv graphical leap over doom eternal.

and that's wrong

[marble stag]

Doom Dark Ages Freezing

5060 TI and more than enough to run the game
I have to run it on the 576.28 driver to work but the screen gets pixelated but if I run the newest drivers the game freezes after 5-10 minutes
Please tell me there’s a fix and give me a list of instructions on what to do

[pine gale]

no its not....

compare the graphical leap from doom 3 over doom 2

and than compare the graphical leap from doom tda over eternal

[burnt timber]

why

[burnt timber]

I'm starting to find it incredibly nasty and disrespectful that people come here every day speaking absolute nonsense about the game, how id can't optimize, how RT is a scam, how it's all a conspiracy led by nvidia that The Dark Ages won't start on your 10 year old GPU.

[thin crown]

Well I cant launch the game for two weeks thanks to denuvo so yeah not great

[burnt timber]

that and all the bugs are valid, absolutely go off

[pine gale]

i think idsoftware is on the wrong way in terms of optimzation, this was a better one, looks good nearlz 600 frames in near 4k ultra settings no dlss no rt

now doom tda, i am looking at the ground, low settings no dlss no framegenartion 139 fps ...

so much more performance need for not much more visual fidelty ...

[pine gale]

here with details on side that show low settings,

it looks like there is a really have load underneath even with everything turned to low...

it also looks like several grpahics settings do have no or nearly no impact, scalability is poor. from low to ultra nightmare on a 4090 currently...

138/103

from higest to lowest (if you are looking at the ground) you get an improvment of about 34 % in frames/s

probably several higher settings are doing nothing currently ....

[honest wedge]

Can someone help me my game has randomly started crashing on startup

Eternal samdbox

I have the crash reports

[echo tangle]

Anyone here have any idea how to fix the BS error "failed to initialize steam API"?
My OS is bazzite which is supposedly a steambased OS so wtf?

[pine gale]

so it looks like doom tda turns off raytracing if you use a 6gb gpu (but you get artifacts, black areas)

but i would like to test what the performance impact is.

the game has an integrated console.

is there any cvar that i could set that will trigger this state that a 6gb gpu does in terms of avoiding raytracing?

i searched through many possibe r_.... cvars but i did only found one a general one.
i have also searched through the additonal cvars that you get from the doom the dark ages console unlocker from Kaibz from nexusmods ...

[torn elm]

FSR doesn’t look very good on TDA, try Xess, it might look even better than FSR

[torn elm]

I agree, his dedication to crying and whining about something that has been disproven with numbers over and over again is just gross. Like please get a job and grow some neurons. This is how you turn a non issue into an issue

[torn elm]

Just try running DDU, installing the new drivers again I guess. And game file verification

[ebon quail]

nope, didnt turn it off for my 2060 non super 6gb

[pine gale]

you are dedicated to defend unfriendly decisions from idsoftware and where doom tda is a massive stepdown to its predecessors (in terms of used ressources and scalability)....

[ebon quail]

it runs on 6 year old hardware...

[pine gale]

which game does not?

[torn elm]

They made very friendly decisions, you just like to whine

[ebon quail]

oh wow great argument there

[torn elm]

csgo can run on integrated graphics, what about your shit optimized game doom tda

[ebon quail]

the game needs raytracing and runs on most gpus from the RTX lineup, and the RX 60+ lineup, if that isnt impressive, i dont know what is

i got it to run at over 90 fps on an rtx 2060 non super 6gb, with RT enabled

[pine gale]

yep you probably don't know which resolutions have to be pushed in vr...

[ebon quail]

you're the only one that mentioned resolution, im talking about raytracing, stick on the topic maybe?

vr is also pretty different than raytracing in general, and it requires tons of optimization thats only possible in vr due to our perception

[pine gale]

raytracing could be the reason why performance is so much worse compared to eternal where you can push higher resolutions....

[ebon quail]

ikr the devs didnt optimize shit

[ebon quail]

the game runs at 40 fps on an rx 590

also, eternal's raytracing is mostly reflections

while TDA everything is raytraced, yet the game runs fine on even half a decade old raytracing gpus

[pine gale]

it does not even start if you launch it throug the launcher, with rx polaris card it has to use software raytracing.

[ebon quail]

yeah, someone here runs it with a 590

im sorry to disappoint you, but i do think many more games after this will use raytracing, the technology is clearly ready, the first raytracing demonstration was in 1968

[pine gale]

ther is an cvar the could be set but it is not by default

so users that just start the game with a gpu without rt will get an error.

[ebon quail]

because the developers know people will use it to shit on their game?, and say it runs badly eventhough they are using very old hardware?

[pine gale]

they did a silly decision in the first place!

[ebon quail]

you will still need a 2019-era gpu to run tda well, even if raytracing was off

completely off, not software or any of that

like the game wont magically require 4gb of vram, you gotta down the resolution significantly for that

[torn elm]

Don’t try reasoning with this guy. He has a 4090 rig and is the only dude on earth tryna play TDA in VR and complaining it wasn’t optimized for VR. No amount of benchmarks or fps performance will make him happy. I did this whole excersize yesterday for an hour, trust me save your breath

[ebon quail]

why is bro trying to run vr on a non vr game, thats like trying to put a car on a racetrack with other very modified cars

[pine gale]

no!

do gtx 1080ti has more power than currenct console gpus and enough vram, gtx titan as well

[ebon quail]

well, i guess what i meant is you still need a good gpu

either way, seems you're not worth reasoning with, so have fun talking to the air!

[torn elm]

That’s what I was saying

The goober complains a race bike wasn’t made for off roading

[ebon quail]

nooo why cant this new game run well on vr, but it wasnt optimized for vr it should run well!!!

this guy talks about shitty optimization but doesnt mention that the game wasnt optimized for vr

[pine gale]

eternal was not optimized for vr but you can the neede resolutions on it.

[torn elm]

Blah blah blah no one plays doom in vr cry harder

[pine gale]

i do, others do,

doom vfr was a vr game!

[ebon quail]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0AaIs90I3gY he should be like this guy and just try enjoying the fucking game

[pine gale]

do you know how cool these games are in vr compared to flat?

[torn elm]

Do you know that we play video games normally

[ebon quail]

exactly, which requires so much fucking processing power

especially on a game that isnt built for VR

"noo why wont the game that isnt built for vr not run well, its unfiar!"

[pine gale]

yea but even if you have fast gpus this this is often not enough if the game restricts that because of decisions to render the needed resoultions...

[pine gale]

do you tell the same shit to steam deck users?

[ebon quail]

you're the only person that brung up the steam deck here

[ebon quail]

ok, but tell me, does this vr mod do that?

[pine gale]

the game does it much more than eternal because it is not as scalable anymore, you cannot push super high resolutions that are needed for a clear image in vr with constant framerate that you could with eternal probably because raytracing is not optional like in eternal.

[torn elm]

The steam deck is donkey dick bro. Can barely run cyberpunk at 40 fps

[ebon quail]

are we ready for very high resolution gameplay on VR with alot of raytracing?, clearly the fuck not, but someone made it anyways. your point?

[pine gale]

it runs cp2077 better than doom tda

and doom eternal runs very well on steam deck!

[pine gale]

and thats one reason why raytracing should be OPTIONAL not MANDATORY like before in eternal!

[ebon quail]

i mean, we could just wait 2 years until the developers are done baking in lights, it will also result in slower load times

a developer at id software said it wouldve taken years more if they were to bake in lighting

[pine gale]

do you really think they need 2 years to bake some lighting?

do your really they have such weak rigs?

[ebon quail]

weak*, also, thats what a developer at id said bro

baking in lighting is more complicated than you think bro, its not a fucking button you press, it requires optimization, much like every single other lighting technology

[pine gale]

compare it to other developers, if they can do it, why not idsoftware anymore?

[pine gale]

i don't think so, on youtube you can find tutorials

[ebon quail]

https://www.reddit.com/r/Doom/comments/1krxy91/doom_the_dark_ages_wouldve_taken_longer_to_make/

cehck the article, thats the engine lead developer speaking btw.

"DOOM would’ve taken longer without ray-tracing
Speaking to the tech analyst team, Khan explained that making DOOM: The Dark Ages “without ray-tracing” while keeping the same larger environments and complex cinematics “would have had to elongate the time [of development] by a magnitude of years”."

"For decades now, developers have been forced to pre-bake lighting with lightmaps and shadowmaps that take ages to calculate. As soon as something is changed in an environment such as a light fixture moving place or a piece of the environment changing location, those pre-baked calculations need to be ran all over again. Unlike ray-tracing, these pre-baked maps also take up storage space."

[pine gale]

here is a statement from luke ross that develops vr mods

[ebon quail]

if the engine lead for id cant tell you that it wouldve taken a while, i dont know what will.

“The more you can quickly iterate on it, the more polished and diverse the gameplay encounters can become,” Khan told the outlet. “Ray tracing allows us to do WYSIWYG (what you see is what you get), replacing the approximate representation used by artists and designers with exactly what it’s going to look like on PC or console, without bakes that take hours upon hours. You can imagine what kind of speed improvement that is. It’s a 10x if not 100x improvement in iteration time. A lighter can now move a light in the middle of a meeting if we want a spot to be darker, for example.”

[ebon quail]

read this, then talk

[pine gale]

he is defending his decision that now the product need so much more performance (but does not look that much better in the end)

[ebon quail]

cool, ive already blocked you, so i dont have to worry about arguing with you anymore, becuase clearly you dont wanna accept stuff and say its for defending themselves, cya now

[pine gale]

bye

[torn elm]

How do we get idiots to this degree

[sour needle]

Who are you beefing with

[torn elm]

This dude HapperHapper

[hexed nimbus]

Yeah what happened lmao

[torn elm]

He’s a brick wall

[low sinew]

Hdr not fixed

Hdr just broken than update 1, haizz

[torn elm]

Yea, use a Lilium reshade

[pine gale]

no real beefing

just sad to see that some people try to defends lazy decisions (forced raytracing and no baked in lighting OPTION [everybody can still have rt if they want] ) that affected scaling and prevent people from play the game how they want and on which devices they want to play and ecluded hadware that is more powerful than current consoles and kills performance in vr. total stepdown an turnaround compared to doom eternal that was great in this way....

[plain pier]

Does anyone know if there's any news on a Switch 2 update for Doom (2016) and Eternal?

[low sinew]

I wish i can, i play this game on ps5 😦

[torn elm]

aw, sorry man

[burnt timber]

Did they add the option to turn off film grain?

[civic quiver]

My gpu’s middle fan aint fanning

[honest wedge]

This game is so ass bro

It keeps crashing if I lower my graphics settings in the main menu

and then won’t let me launch anymore without deleting the cfg files

[torn elm]

wtf

does reinstalling work?

[carmine tapir]

Anyone know how to get past the press A screen….wtf

[tawdry schooner]

I just refunded the game on steam. I have a laptop 4080, i9-14900k, and 32 GB of ram. I couldn't play more than 15 minutes at a time without crashing, and now with the latest update it crashes my whole laptop when I launch the game. I love the doom games but man this is ridiculous

[bright bloom]

Why can't I connect to Bethesda?

[dapper canyon]

are your drivers up to date? I had to update them to play without crashing. desktop 3060ti

[tawdry schooner]

Yeah I double checked everything from GPU, to bios, to Intel drivers and more. No idea what the issue was unless my i9 is one of the lemons that overheats and destroys itself

[torn elm]

whats the temps at rn

[tawdry schooner]

If I can get the game to launch anymore I'll tell you. Steam denied my refund because I waited too long after release lol

[torn elm]

Jesus

[nocturne ember]

1. Does HDR effect fps performance?
2. Has anyone encountered increased crash / display issues with hdr vs non-hdr?

[vestal swift]

so i wanted to download tda on my legion go but it said i needed the 1.25 update and it said i had 1.24 so i clicked the link and download the update only for it to NEVER detect that i have the update, i have downloaded it from the correct link 4 times now and have installed it 4 times only for the game to never detect i updated, i try to launch the game and it runs but it crashes after a second of playing. how am i doing this wrong? i am downloading the update like it directed me to and it still wont think i am updated or its still reading the last update idk i really am confused and really frustrated, i know legion go can run the game but for some reason the update isnt working

[torn elm]

HDR does not effect fps performance

not really no

[empty surge]

ayo, this site is closed circle of adoration or wwhat?

[frosty adder]

Someone help me with the shield speed tech

[true dawn]

Is FSR set to native? I find fsr better than TAA. But xess is better than either of them. I have the same gpu

[mild oar]

@true dawn It is. Dang, I have not found FSR to be better under any circumstances.

[true dawn]

Well like i said xess blows both of them out of the water

use that and hope and pray amd ports fsr4 over to rdna 3 sometime soon

[mild oar]

@true dawn The game nopes when I try DLSS

[true dawn]

well.. yeah lol

you have an AMD graphics card, not an nvidia

[mild oar]

@true dawn and like…I’m not complaining. I’m hitting 100fps with everything else maxed out

@true dawn Stop hitting me in the feels 😂

[true dawn]

Im not roasting you, Like i said i have the same card

amd cards just cant use DLSS bc nvidia locks it to nvidia hardware

[true dawn]

Also i said to use XESS, not DLSS

which you 100% can use

[mild oar]

@true dawn TY for the recommendations. I’ll give that a shot in the morning. CPU is 7950 X3D.

[torn elm]

FSR kinda sucks in general, excpet for FSR4

[true dawn]

still better than TAA on native

[torn elm]

Agreed

[vestal swift]

still clueless on this

[desert halo]

just sad to see that some people try to defends lazy decisions
Did you miss the interview where baking lightning during the development process would take insane amounts of time, vs RT which is mostly realtime in the editor? Also the game would've been huge with baked lightning, if you wanna try how fast baked lightning in you can do it in the editor for eternal

[torn elm]

do NOT argue with him, he is missing crucial parts of his brain

[true dawn]

RT would have meant compromising on a lot of visual elements.

The game runs fine, even on 20 series or Rx 6000 gpus

[pine gale]

the question that has to be asked, why don't have other studios the same problem? they include backed lighting in their games and don't need force raytracing. also in doom eternal, id-software had no problem with baked lighting.

doom tda needs much more ressources than eternal but does not looks that much better, so they had to justify it with something. first point was a preview function (that other engines also have) second thing was the don't have to do the baked lighing process. but personally i think this could be an excuse...

here is a small tutorial how to bake lighting in unreal engine 5 to dynamic lighting (other way around), it can be pretty fast even on a consumer machine. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TSFuSmjljuM

[true dawn]

no game dev would ever ever do this

removing all dynamic lighting defeats the advantage of unreal 5.

and also you seem to miss the point? obviously baking lights once doesnt take very long

the problem is that you have to do it over and over again every time you make an adjustment

[true dawn]

Also again you miss the point entirely.. Its not because its too hard, its because RT looks way better. you mention doom eternal like its some kind of trump card. TDA looks way way better..

anyways this is going in circles, and it seems like you either arent reading what people are saying or just dont understand it so

you can keep gnawing on your keyboard if you want, but im done talking to you.

[sharp ether]

I am stealing that phrase

[pine gale]

it looks a bit better but it eats several times the performace.

lot at that nearly 600 frames

138 while looking on the ground all testes on my pc with same resolution.

needed ressourcen went up several factors from eternal but graphics quality only a bit.

[torn elm]

looks at full scene

looks at dirt on the floor

[torn elm]

https://tenor.com/view/fire-writing-gif-24533171

[pine gale]

yea correct, looking at the ground usually gives you much more fps, right? 😄

but not in doom tda 😄

[torn elm]

Becuase your playing a newer title, this isn’t dirt watching simulator

[pine gale]

don't you unstander that this screenshot was made for a reason:

doom eternal had to render the full scene, ultra nightmare settings

doom tda had to render the the ground with low settings,

still there ist this large gap in fps ....

[torn elm]

Eternal looks dookie compared to TDA scene to scene

[pine gale]

doom eternal can look good, especially for the needed ressources.

doom tda is no large step over eternal in terms of visuals.

[torn elm]

All this cause you wanna play this game in vr

[pine gale]

all because the devolper thought "forced raytracing" in 2025 is a good idea 😄

[torn elm]

It’s a great idea, chew more dirt

[pine gale]

i have also given gemini the task to filter dedicated gpus from the data from current may steam hardwarecharts that don't have 8gb vram or do not support hardware-accelerated-rt

ai comes the conclusion: around 27% percent of people will not even able to start the game via the offical launcher....

but there are some 2060 variants that have more than 6 gb vram, so lets round the number to 25% .... and igpus are also filtered out....

[peak flower]

This must be like when Doom3 came out and people complained that it required a 3D accelerator.

[desert halo]

https://youtu.be/DZfhbMc9w0Q?t=779 x10-x100 improvement in iteration speed, and the scale of things, devs can keep using the insanly performant, stutter free, never any problems with performance at all, UE5 we have all seen in recent titles, because at least it technically runs on non-RT hardware?

[midnight flower]

is there any way to fix it?

[torn elm]

He ain’t just complaining, he’s gotta be getting paid for it

[vestal swift]

i guess no one wants to help at all and just leave me clueless to whats going on, very great

[slate flicker]

Me when the newer title is more demanding: 🤯🤯🤯

Grass is green ahh statement

[pine gale]

from 600 frames/s to 140fps ist not a good tradeoff if you consider that it does not look that much advanced ....

[slate flicker]

“It doesn’t look much better” is a matter of personal opinion but the game objectively has much better graphics than eternal. There’s more detail in the textures, lighting and reflections are far more advanced, not to mention the destructible environments and the fact that the levels are generally just bigger with more detailed environments

[pine gale]

this is a fast pace game, many details you don't even notice...

[slate flicker]

Eternal definitely looked good, but compared to other triple A titles it was just okay. TDA can actually compete graphically with other triple A titles

[slate flicker]

Sure, maybe you’re right. But saying the game is “not much more” graphically advanced than eternal is just outright wrong

[pine gale]

i am right, this is not a big leap in terms of visuals that justify this need performance increase and the exclusion of so many graphicscard owner and handheld users ...

maybe next gpu generation forced rt would have been a good fit but currently it is to early....

[slate flicker]

You’re basing your whole argument on the fact that it’s “not a big visual leap” which is just untrue though

[pine gale]

so fps is less than a quarter when you look at the ground, how much better does it look, 15%?

maybe i see the difference when they add pathtracing but currently i don't see much even on max settings...

[slate flicker]

Noooo dude my doom game isn’t running at 3 gazillion gigashits per megafart this is UNACCEPTABLE! I’m sorry but fps arguments become so mind-numbingly stupid when we’re talking about numbers in the several hundreds because literally what is the difference between 400 and 200fps and in what universe do you need any game to run at those frames

This is literally only a problem for us pc gamers, which make up a relatively small chunk of the overall gaming population

[pine gale]

for me personal: i need high resolutions in vr, so less demanding games, i can usually push resolution higher.

because i can do that in eternal, eternal looks sharper in vr than doom tda ...

on a steamdeck etc, less demanding games that still look good are also always welcome 😄

[slate flicker]

Vr? Just so we’re on the same page you’re talking about playing tda on virtual reality?

[pine gale]

yes vr. you can play doom tda in vr, with alternate eye rendering.

[low trellis]

anyone have fix so i can play the new doom game without bugsplat error

[slate flicker]

Holy shit okay I’m not having this conversation anymore

[burnt timber]

this happening every day is so funny

[pine gale]

we probably don't need to, it looks like players already do it with their playtime (both games are on gamepass) ...

maybe eternal will even overtake it in the next months....

[slate flicker]

I’m so tired of people using steam statistics to say tda was a flop because it’s just blatant bullshittery. Tda launched on gamepass and went for $70 on steam, eternal did not launch on gamepass and costed $60 at launch. There are so many more factors at play here

[pine gale]

yea but please consider eternal is much older and now also on gamepass available....

[slate flicker]

This is a braindead, pointless conversation. I’m not gonna shill for id software and glaze the game, but I’ll leave off that steam statistics are misleading and do not accurately dictate a game’s success

[vestal swift]

-_-

[gritty oak]

The community proves the game is a success, despite steam's interesting statistics, the community fricking loves The Dark Ages. Its a new opportunity to rip and tear. The haters are just louder about their thoughts.

Most people who are liking the game are just gonna chill and vibe while the complainers sound like game journalists because they can't have the same exact ingredients in every game

[slate flicker]

The steam statistics are easily explainable by the game launching on gamepass. People don’t want to spend $70 on games and honestly I understand completely

[gritty oak]

My original plan was to just use game pass until a friend gifted it to me

[gritty oak]

I agree

[slate flicker]

If I hadn’t bought the collectors edition and hadn’t been waiting specifically for this release I wouldn’t have spent 70 on it. It’s a lot of money

I have a hard time justifying 60 for most games. 70? Even 80 now for some newer titles? Fucking forget it lol

Bait used to be believable

[gritty oak]

I don't buy anything unless its on sale

Im waiting on night reign to drop 🔥🔥🔥

[slate flicker]

Drivers up to date? Specs up to par?

[gritty oak]

Does the family library work well? Ive been curious

[slate flicker]

Based and true

[slate flicker]

I personally haven’t used it but I have a buddy who does and it seems to work well for him from what I’ve seen

Very weird, didn’t realize you’ve already played a good bit. Maybe try verifying files?

Yeah the username is garglin and password is mahnuts

[gritty oak]

First time I've seen this ngl

Seeing this

Family sharing issue?

[slate flicker]

…

[gritty oak]

I had no issues at all on launch day, its played fine for me this has been weird

Didn't even update drivers or anything

[torn elm]

5 different people have reached this conclusion with this guy, he’s completely brain dead

[vestal swift]

^

[torn elm]

My guy could you explain the issue a little better it’s a little hard to follow

[vestal swift]

the issue is that the game wont read the update file i downloaded, acting like i never downloaded it when i have done it 4 times, so idk what im doing wrong because im just following the link the app gives me the site to go get the update

[burnt timber]

did you install it

[vestal swift]

yes, i said that i installed it like 4 times in my first message

[torn elm]

This could be steam jamming out if I’m speaking from experience, I’d say go to steam downloads and clear all download cache that typically works

[vestal swift]

its not from steam its from gamepass actually, which just makes this more confusing for me

[torn elm]

Ah shit hmmm

[vestal swift]

is it like a bug and it just doesnt realize i have it or something? cause i swear i have the right update and i fully installed it i even get a confirmation when its installed😵‍💫

[rancid palm]

i do not have ReShade installed on DE

[gritty oak]

It looks like we had a schizophrenic conversation with a ghost or something

[slate flicker]

Lmao

[torn elm]

Legit

[slate flicker]

I cant believe he tried logging into that "account" i gave him, actual AI dude

[gritty oak]

He asked for another one too 😭

[spice vigil]

i am trying to lanuch doom the dark ages but every time it shows me this message, does anyone know how to solve it?

[celest trench]

Dude im at my wits end. I havent been able to finish TDA for over 3 weeks because the game randomly stopped working on pc gamepass. I got to chapter 20 a few days after release and then i went to play and there was a corrupted update. I uninstalled and reinstalled the game and no dice. I saw a post saying to delete the fsr folder, nothing. Just got a 1.6gb update still no fix. Game launches as normal, I see all the pre title nonsense (havok, warnings, etc.), then the little loading symbol in the bottom right and you can hear the title in the background, see mouse cursor, I can even LAUNCH THE MISSION but theres no game video. Someone please help I want to finish it finally. Hopefully this is the right channel, sorry if not.

[torn elm]

I’m really sorry this bs is happening to you, you deserve a full refund

[celest trench]

luckily i have it on gamepass but doom is my top 3 games i want to play it lol

[torn elm]

Ikr, fucking sucks, it’s a shame since the game is great

[neon stag]

Okay, i'm settling this stupid ass argument right then and now
TDA NEEDS raycasting, not only for the visuals, but because it has been built as a core of ID Tech 8, witch means it's used on par for the gameplay
That why the game is so "gourmand" in terms of performance, the raycasting is obligatory for the game to work correclty, but he's use very well, so no it's not that ID Software don't know how to make optimized engine who look good and run smooth now, it's just that the technology their using is very demanding, just like Doom 3 at the time

Sorry bro, i'm just so freaking tired of seeing this shitty argument everywhere to discredit the game

[pine gale]

doom3 was a large leap forward compared to doom 3 and for its time. (on the gameplayside it looked different and many did not like it)

doom tda isn't a large leop forward in terms of graphics compared to eternal in its current state. it is nowhere near if you compare doom 2 to doom 3.

doom eternal and other games work pretty well without raycasting, so maybe the mandatory integration was the mistake in the first place, there should have been always an alternative option or fallback like in other games...

[neon stag]

Wow, you clearly don't understood what i was saying

[pine gale]

maybe you should be more clear:

why does you need raycasting in the engine and other don't need it?

this is how doom 2 looked

and this is how doom 3 looked

[neon stag]

I don't know, i didn't fully understand what the interviewed said
But from what i understood, raycasting is mandatory for ID Tech 8, it's not just a "cool feature" like a lot of other games, it's at the core of the engine, and it's used a lot for graphics, speed and light calculation, and gameplay, GAMEPLAY
They said it very clearly, without the raycasting technology (i'm talking about rtx), they wouldn't have been able to pull off this engine without a couple more years of work

[neon stag]

It's a very lame argument
Don't you know that technological gap and demand in ressources is exponential ?
The difference between a hardware in 3-4 back in the 80's was incredibly high, but the more complex the technology get, the more imperceptible the changes get
Don't ever think that we could get a Mario Bros 3 - Mario World graphics change in the 2020's, it's just not possible
Plus, they is 9 years between Doom 2 and Doom 3, and not 5 years like between Eternal and TDA

[pine gale]

"they wouldn't have been able to pull off this engine without a couple more years of work"

probably bullshit just to justify a stupid decision for this kind of game.

other gamedeveloper, including that develops openword, don't need hat, they also did not need it in all the other doom games before.

[pine gale]

you could probably also take doom 2016, becaue it is also still looking really good!

[neon stag]

Buddy, you just sucks at understanding that, i don't care, but please find out before you say bullshit

[pine gale]

you don't understand what they are telling in the interview, so you could not answer the question but you take it word for word as truth and don't question it a bit.

[neon stag]

That not a "stupid decision", engine programmers at ID know very well their stuff, the Id Tech 8 is a freaking marvel of technology
It's on par (maybe even better) than Unreal 5 in terms of capabilities, but with way better performances

[neon stag]

I didn't need to understand their maths equations to understand why they need them

And i mean, i don't put away the fact that there is probably a collaboration to promote Nvidia's next cards

But that not an argument to say "the game doesn't need that"

[pine gale]

doom eternal did not need it, so why doom tda now?

idtech7 did not need it mandatory, so why idtech 8?

in idtech7 they found ways everything works, now they have everything forgotten in idtech8

thats unlikely

[neon stag]

Because technology updates fast, because ID wants to always be a the top of the top about game engines (they have a reputation about it)
Because Id Tech 7 is merely an udpate of Id tech 6, while Id Tech 8 is a whole new engine developed from the roots

[torn elm]

Please don’t argue with this lobotomite

[pine gale]

they have invented it in a way that costs so much performance without seeing much benefits and without a fallback, so that the scalability of the past can be archived again.

for me, it went into the wrong direction.

[neon stag]

Don't seeing it doesn't mean that it's not here

And i clearly understand why they had to use it, you can't get to have this level of light generation and calculation so fast, and so smootly without raycasting (rtx) technology.

Plus, the engine is really really smooth, run perfectly well, has very fews fps loose, etc

You think all of that would be possible without raycasting technology ? Hell nah

I mean, it could, but like they said, that would need some few more years of work for the engine programmers

And that probably the main reason why they choose to make raycasting technology a core part of their engine

(but i don't exclude the sponsorship with Nvidia ahah, that probably fallen right at the good time for them)

[pine gale]

i think it was a bad tradeoff in terms of needed performance to results and in terms of the loss of scalabililty with many disadvantages on the customer's side.

[neon stag]

Nah that's okay, i like talking about game engines

[torn elm]

its fun talking game engines with someone that can actually reach a concluision

[pine gale]

you can ran doom eternal some kind of playable on 2 rdna cus in 900p

but you cannot do it, even with a quarter of the resolution in doom tda.

[torn elm]

problem is this gentleman cant, 5 people have come and gone and tried to convince him and everyone has given up

basically his whole reason for being upset is because he cant play TDA in VR smoothly

[pine gale]

they went from the masters of optimization and needed performance to mediocre at best....

[neon stag]

Plus, it helps me pratice my english (i'm not a native speaker)

[neon stag]

Wow, are you even reading what i just said ?!

ID Tech 8 is a marvel of optimisation goddamnit
With a bad bunch of engine programmers, you couldn't even have 40 FPS with a freaking 4080 RTX card

Not running smoothly enough with your hardware doesn't mean it's poorly written

[pine gale]

i compare the absolut needed performance between tda and eternal + the visual leap and it is a stepdown, a large one....

[pine gale]

i have a 4090 so i can play it in flat, i can play it in vr but with much lower res. than eternal (so in the end the predecessor looked sharper than the successor on the same hardware)

but for tests for the needed performance i have used an igpu with 2x rdna 2 cus and looked which resoultion could be pushed with playable framesrate... this made me sad how much scalability they have lost for this smaller bite addtional visual fidelity....

[neon stag]

Yeah, that the bane of wanting hyper realistic shaders, textures, and light calculation, it costs A LOT

[pine gale]

no, to this extent, this was not a bane, this was a decision especially that did not include a backdoor, a fallback. for a faster paced game like doom tda it was probably a bad one. for future game, maybe it will matter less...

[neon stag]

Yet again, you didn't understood my whole argumentation

You know what, I don't care, stay in your misunderstanding, you're not trying to understand what I'm saying, it's not my problem.

[pine gale]

you probably cannot explain it, thats probably the reason.

[neon stag]

That weird, because the other guy seems to understand it very well

"i don't understand, so that mean you're the stupidas one" no sorry, not going to work

[pine gale]

maybe say it in your native language i will translate it via ai, then you can make a point.

[neon stag]

Ok, it's time to speak baguette then

"
Donc je disais, actuellement, ce qui demande le plus de ressources dans un jeu, ca n'est pas le code, ce sont les textures, shaders, et calcul volumétrique et de lumières
La technologie raycasting permet de gérer cela bien plus facilement, et de manière bien plus smooth, mais cela demande de lourdes consessions au niveau des demandes hardware
L'ID Tech 8, a donc intégré cette technologie au coeur de son architecture, pour cela, mais également pour des besoins liés à des mécaniques de gameplay, qui nécéssite les apports amenés par le raycasting afin de correctement fonctionner
Le raycasting leur permet donc de pouvoir intégrer ces mécaniques de gameplay, et d'avoir ce niveau graphique sans sacrifier l'optimisation, car le jeu a un excellent rendu graphique, même avec les paramètres graphiques au plus bas, et surtout, il tourne excellement bien (quand je dis qu'il tourne bien, je veux dire que le framerate et constamment bien tenu dans ce jeu, on ne rencontre pas de baisses fréquentes, les crashs sont quasi inexistants, bref, le jeu a été bien entretenu)
Donc, non, les devs n'ont pas baclé le moteur et le jeu, ils ne sont pas faigneants, ou incompetents, ou que sais je, ils se sont au contraire très bien débrouillés

Et par rapport à ton argument du "for a fast paced game", pareil, c'est de la connerie, le jeu tourne à 60 fps constants avec un I5 8k et une RTX 2060, avec les graphismes bas, 60 FPS, c'est largement suffisant pour ce jeu, surtout qu'en plus, celui ci se veut moins nerveux que Doom Eternal

Donc je résume :
-raycasting RTX est utilisé pour le visuel ET pour le gameplay, donc ils doivent faire avec, sinon on aurait pas eu ce même jeu avec ces mêmes mécaniques avant 2-3 ans de plus
-le moteur reste un très bon moteur parfaitement bien optimisé, dans la droite lignée de l'historique d'ID Software
"

[pine gale]

because they used something (lets pretend raycasting for hit detection or something like that), this does not mean that it has to be solved that way. you must always remember, there are several ways to solve a problem in 3d graphics. if they tell you they have used raycasting for this and that, this does not mean that they had to do it in that way.

[neon stag]

Buddy, i think they are way more efficient and competent that you and me at solving problems like that
If RTX raycasting is the better solution they found, it's the better solution they found

[pine gale]

do you know that sometimes developer say something to justify their decisions?

[neon stag]

Yeah of course

[pine gale]

this i a short summery of how i see it to force the need of hardwareaccelerated raytracing into the game:

Advantages of the Decision
-->Graphical vision and technical progress.
-->Simplified development.

Disadvantages of Forced Ray Tracing
-->Massively increased performance requirements.
-->Exclusion of players with older or weaker hardware.
-->Insufficient playability on the Steam Deck and with iGPUs.
-->Scalability and upscaling dependency.
-->Marginal graphical improvements in relation to the performance loss.

for me it was to early and with a fallback most of the disadvantages could have been avoided.

[neon stag]

I never said that it was the good thing to do damnit !

I simply said that, for what they were aiming to do, this probably the best thing they could come up to in a short span of years

I agree too, that RTX raycasting shouldn't be mandatory for a AAA game in 2025, because the large audience hardware isn't stuffy yet

But that in any case means that they failed at optimising the game, like you said earlier

And let's not forget this shitty argument you toasted me before :

Anyway, i think we finally understood each other, that's great

But stop roasting the devs or using lame arguments, it does nothing but making you look like incompetent to the subject you're talking about

[pine gale]

i even would say it into the face of the chief engine maker that his decision to include forced raytracing has probably helped to sell less copies of doom the dark ages. because his decison made doom the dark ages less accessible to a lot of people with older but still powerful enough gtx cards or igpus that had fun with doom eternal when it came out but now cannot play doom the dark ages.

[neon stag]

Holy shit, i already said i agree with you about that point, stop coming over and over like a damn full circle !

[torn elm]

Told you

[true dawn]

yeah this guy cannot read

so dont waste your time

[wind parrot]

Hello im playing on my laptop, I have a rtx 3050 6gb mobile, Intel® Core™ Ultra 9 Processor 185H and 24gb of ram. Do you think I can run DOOM dark ages?

[slate flicker]

Don’t even bother arguing with that guy, at least 5 other people have gotten into the same argument with him and have gotten nowhere.

[slate flicker]

Holy bottleneck 😭

[slate flicker]

I believe recommended vram is at least 8gb so your GPU is slightly under the minimum specs, but you may be able to give it a try? Can’t hurt to buy then just refund if it doesn’t work

[civic quiver]

One of my 3 gpu’s fans is broken but the other two work, can i still use it to play safely if i adjust the fan curve?

[radiant plover]

Hey all, I believe I’m soft locked. I can’t progress because the turret spawned outside of the shield. Please let me know if I’m doing something wrong or if there’s a fix

I have restarted the map and checkpoint multiple times and verified the game files

[dapper estuary]

Im having issues with framerates on Dark Ages, yesterday I was able to play with fps in the 80-100 but today its capped to 40 fps and looks like the gpu is being underutilized, any solutions to this? https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/991212674824273950/1383170667654025317/2025061.JPG?ex=684f2311&is=684dd191&hm=b399cea2de902bc9a8f6df205352d1c0d5913f46b3637b6fb92c2c9dcd189fbd&=&format=webp&width=1503&height=845 (pic from yesterday)

[true dawn]

Looks like you have a laptop. Make sure your plugged in, as well as double check that the charger is working properly and is providing enough power for your laptop

if that doesnt work, most gaming laptops have multiple power modes, usually some variation of quiet/eco, standard, and turbo

make sure youre on standard or turbo

[dapper estuary]

yeah on other games the gpu is being fully utilized (130w-165w in cyberpunk) while on dark ages its like 50w

[dapper estuary]

running a custom overclock/undervolt through afterburner and undervolting the cpu as well through xtu

[true dawn]

maybe the cpu undervolt is too much?

[dapper estuary]

tried stock but it doesnt help, the issue persists

ok so i found a solution, apparently turning on the mux switch (enabling igpu) improves the performance somehow

[torn elm]

wtf lmao, I mean it does make sense considering your mobo uses shared lanes

[buoyant basalt]

good morning all, any pc savy person in here who could help me please?

[torn elm]

sure

[vocal mantle]

does anyone know why my game keeps freezing? if i start my save quick it works fine but as soon as i go to the menu it freezes, i can only hear audio

[peak nimbus]

Hello, i'm just Softlock here. Can't go further because the part that I need to climb isn't fall. I can't die and checkpoint just make me here again, with this part bug. Any idea? I don't want to do all this lvl again.

[nocturne ember]

9070 xt user, had a crash, now my pc seems to be ok but whenever i move the mouse around on my desktop my frame rate is lowered, anyone have any idea what might be causing this?

even after pc restart, unplug, etc it's still doing this

it was weird, was only when I had the desktop visible, if I fullscreened something like internet the frame rate would be fine, I installed the newest AMD driver and it fixed it

[wind parrot]

Anyone know why the eyeballs of people during cut scenes are white and blury? Im playing DOOM the dark ages.

[torn elm]

looks like its VRR doing something, id say try running DDU

[nocturne ember]

DDU?

[torn elm]

display driver uninstaller

[regal leaf]

doom opens, game music plays, it sounds like im clicking on stuff (when i click around) but it gets stuck on this loading screen (or other parts of the loading screen e.g., loading screen with pentagram in bottom right, screen with "DOOM" on screen and "select space to play".)

[wind parrot]

Anyone know why the eyeballs of people during cut scenes are white and blury? Im playing DOOM the dark ages.

[burnt timber]

post pictures and pc specs

[mighty tinsel]

hi im wondering if somone can help me with my game it just crashes when i try to play it

[mighty tinsel]

Noone

[burnt timber]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BR3c9lyV5as

feels like this mode really demonstrates how crazy good the current game already looks instead of how big of a leap path tracing is

[torn elm]

the game already looks insane, this is almost unnoticable, you KNOW youve done an amazing job when path tracing update just makes the game look like it has better ambient occlusion

[burnt timber]

needs a ultra texture pack more than this

coping it'll come tomorrow along with PT

[torn elm]

me too

[peak flower]

The game looks so good already.

[true dawn]

The biggest difference is in reflections, other than that the game mostly just looks the same to be honest

Im pretty sure it completely removes SSR, replaced with entirely PT/RT reflections. plus more reflections

[torn elm]

Yeah

[pine gale]

the systems in vr are more complex. they have to render the image for each eye. there a different approaches.
but thear nearest thing that comes to framegeneration is motion reprojections (has several other names like asynchronos spacewar, motion smoothing etc)

but it is not frameinterpolation like frame generation it is extrapolation (not inbetween frames like in framgenation)

[delicate marsh]

anyone know if theres a way to reset your graphics settings to the default outside of the game? i turned on raytracing and my game broke (black screen)

[pine gale]

i would say they went the wrong forced raytracing path to early.

[delicate marsh]

yournumberhere being what? my steam id?

yk what file path id be looking for on linux? the file paths you mentioning dont exist on my system

figured it out

/home/ace/.steam/steam/userdata/1173043720/3017860/remote/PROFILE

i found and deleted the file you were talking about but im still stuck in a black screen after the logos

any ideas?

[pine gale]

so now i have 43 frames with pt and everything else to low, if i look at the ground 🤣 #tech-talk message

runs similar to cyberpunkt with pt enables but with much less impact on visuals compared to cyberpunks non-rt mode ....

but it looks like it does now slows down anymore, if you are under a certain framerate .... still slows donw ...

[pine gale]

several hundreds (doom eternal, doom 2016 without image reconstruction to <50 ... with everything else to low ...)

[candid cape]

Dlss balanced would help a lot

[pine gale]

i know but not for sake of comparsion.

[delicate marsh]

not at the time buiit i have since updated them

we dont get the latest drivers at the same time as windows users so im still a version behind the dartk ages launch day drivers

shouldnt be a issue as the game worked for weeks before today

i was able to get to the main menu and play a bit earlier today before i changed that setting

[vernal pine]

my gpu got 8gb of vram, my game runs at 140 fps despite the VRAM being at 7152/6835. Is this a problem?

[sharp scarab]

could be visual bug rather than real calculation, if you're not facing any issues, keep playing

[torn elm]

Nono, it’s just an indicator you’ll be good

[pine gale]

games running with 60fps and 1080p rendertarget were not common on ps4, it was more of a 30fps console for many games.
on ps5 60fps target is much more common, also higher rendertargets than 1080p, even if they are dynamic.

so doom 2016 and eternal performed, especially if you consider the visual quality of both titles for the generation + 60 fps target + higher rendertargets for the generation, more at the top compared to other games of the generation while doom tda with its rendertarget and 60 fps is more in the mediocre space of the generation.

[echo citrus]

I think I might be like 700 Mio over the threshold so you should be good

my game runs at 60 FPS most of the time, with small drops to 50 FPS and worst case scenario 40 FPS

[pine gale]

rt (standard)
pt on --> #tech-talk message
pt on + r_skipfog 1 (probably has more impact than pt on indoors 😄 )

maybe they should add a "skipfog"-toggle in the graphics settings (i hate fog and prefer mostly clarity 😄 )

[pine gale]

vram load is not completly consistant through the game.

if you see brutal slowsdown or textures not loading it became a problem, if this never occures i would just run it with this settings ...

only pt on (skipfog 0)

[vernal pine]

Thanks everyone for the replies, it's very helpful

[tame oyster]

Question if I buy multiple game consoles and want to play games on game monitor but I can only choose 1 console to play should I buy an HDMI switcher that way all my consoles r connected and I choose one of them

[sharp ether]

I run an HDMI switch to my capture card and definitely recommend using one even just with a monitor.

[tame oyster]

Ok but do i still need an HDMI even though I'm playing games on my free time not for Livestream or video

[sharp ether]

My streaming has nothing to do with the reason I am using one. I wouldn't say it's something you specifically need, but the convenience is really nice so you don't ever have to go back there and swap cables around just to play a game.

[tame oyster]

@sharp ether true 👍, I don't need capture card that's ONLY for live stream gaming or doing videos right

[sharp ether]

Correct. I only mentioned it because it is part of my setup. I recommend an HDMI switch still even without one of those in your setup if you have more HDMI devices you want to use than you have HDMI slots available to use.

[tame oyster]

@sharp ether wat HDMI switch would u recommend also I plan on buying PS3, I already have PS5, and I'm either buying Xbox series x or buy the new Xbox console in future

[sharp ether]

The one I use is from Amazon. I can't seem to find a model number anywhere, and of course I can't link it, but you can use this ASIN to find it on their site: B08LVF2S1M

It automatically detects signal and switches on its own, but also has a remote and a button on the device itself so you can manually change sources if you need more than one for any reason.

[tame oyster]

@sharp ether it supports all gaming consoles old, present, and future. Also it has 2.1 HDMI.

[sharp ether]

I don't know about every console in the future, I'm sure HDMI will be abandoned at some point lol, but I mean yeah it supports anything with HDMI output up to 4K60FPS.

[tame oyster]

@sharp ether I found the HDMI u sent me na dit supports Play Station but I don't see Xbox which is a bummer, also it says 2.2 HDMI instead of 2.1.

[sharp ether]

I use it with my XBox One just fine

It's just an HDMI switch. Anything that outputs a supported resolution through HDMI is going to work.

They don't need to label every console and device under the sun as specifically compatible.

[tame oyster]

@sharp ether then there is 2.2, is that good instead of 2.1

[sharp ether]

I'm not an expert on HDMI signals over various versions, but I can only assume 2.2 has some further capability than 2.1. You'd have to research that bit yourself. All I can tell you is what HDMI switch I am using and what it does.

[round marten]

Can someone tell me how to make my doom the dark ages to work on my Xbox One S

[vital notch]

Does any one know a good software I can use to make a game in the style of og dooms (preferably specifically quake) (@ me in a response cus I'm not active in here)

[pine gale]

use xbox cloud gaming.

[true dawn]

Do you have any coding or game development experience?

Unreal is very easy to work with, and you can get by with a very elementary coding knowledge

But obviously it's pretty overkill for a retro fps game

There's always unity and Godot, which have both been used by lots of famous boomershooters

But those you actually will have to learn to code. Not super hardcore or anything, but at least a basic understanding of C#

[vital notch]

Yeah I have started to learn code, barely any really but I plan on making something in the next few years, just anything I can make something like that of high standards over a few years with preferably minimal code knowledge

[true dawn]

your best bet would be unreal imo

with a few years of getting to know it you will get it quick. Also while I know you really want to make this game, but dont be so hasty to jump into such a massive idea

start with simple games just to get a feel for it and so you know if you even enjoy game dev

you gotta walk before you can run

[vital notch]

Alr got it thanks

[olive umbra]

@tiny lily

[tiny lily]

type in sv_cheats 1

[olive umbra]

did it work?

[tiny lily]

new game

[modern bronze]

Is 5070 good GPU for gaming

[true dawn]

yes, but 50 series typically isnt very good value. if you can get a 9070 xt for close to MSRP than get that instead

its like 5% slower or something but you would be saving a lot of money

[modern bronze]

Im hearing all about amd drivers are bad

[true dawn]

thats BS

amd drivers are usually crappy at launch, but after a few weeks/months theyre fine

9070 has been out long enough its a non-issue

[modern bronze]

There alot games recommended better GPU

[true dawn]

99% of people you see complaining about amd drivers are entirely user error. not using ddu when replacing the gpu etc

[true dawn]

better than the 9070 XT???

wtf game is that?

[modern bronze]

Mindseye

[true dawn]

????

the reccomendation is a 4070/6800

a 9070 is much better than the 6800, its two generations newer

[modern bronze]

Ok I got confused i only have 3060 12 gb and Ryan 7 5800x

[true dawn]

well a 9070 xt or a 5070 would both be a huge upgrade from that

[modern bronze]

I know I brought this pc for 300 from my brother last year so I'm trying to make it better

[true dawn]

also i was confused, i was thinking of the 5070 ti not 5070

a 9070 xt is much better than a 5070, but a little bit more iirc

[true dawn]

well the good news is that is a very good cpu that will probably keep up with a newer gpu very well

as long as youre playing in 1440p or above

[modern bronze]

I like pc better then console

[true dawn]

https://tenor.com/view/pcmr-pc-master-race-pc-master-race-gif-14892546

PCMR for life

[modern bronze]

I love modding games in my opinion

[torn elm]

mindseye, a 5090 runs the game at 30 fps

[violet umbra]

hi everyone

its been a long time since i asked but is there any solution for this alert or not yet?

[final mortar]

I'm thinking visit the website or something

[violet umbra]

tried many times and even send feedbacks but it's meaningless

[final mortar]

Then what I'm thinking is there's something with the specs that it can't process, do you have at least the minimalist specs for the game to run?

[violet umbra]

nah i dont think so
i have a ryzen 7 and rtx 4060 with 32g ram
theres no way its realted to the specs. in fact ive been playing the game around 150fps on high settings since the day of launch by the gamepass untill this alert started popping up me and i couldnt play the game since

[final mortar]

Then idk, try contacting Bethesda. I would help more but I can't really figure out the problem now

[gritty oak]

I know putting a PC on a carpeted floor is a terrible idea. But what if I have something to set it on to keep it off the carpet? Is it still a bad idea? I can't find a decent way to set up my desk and having it on the floor might help

I really want to clean up this setup all of the cords in the back are driving me insane

[true dawn]

Looks like it's denuvo blocking you. Make sure you're connected to the internet and signed into gamepass

Also try launching the game through gamepass and not just the exe

[violet umbra]

i did

but nothing actually change

[true dawn]

Can you verify the files?

No idea how to do it on gamepass, but I'm pretty sure it's an option

[violet umbra]

no in the end it's a xbox app game

it doesnt en general

[true dawn]

Yes you can

[violet umbra]

ohhh you mean the repair tool
i already tried that

it's meaningless completely

i think ill just give up on the game man

[empty moon]

help my save file for doom eternal isnt loading even tho its here int he files
GAME-AUTOSAVE0

[hidden egret]

Guys how do I get the doom dark ages profile board?

[trim harbor]

Help, Doom Dark Ages keeps freezing on startup (as soon as the photosensibility advice is over). Already reinstalled old driver.

[prime gate]

Do you guys think the Path-tracing mode would work on a 4070 TI SUPER?

for DOOM TDA

[stoic scroll]

Why is github saying Doom and its engine are mostly c++? https://github.com/id-Software/DOOM

[true dawn]

will it work? yes. will it run well? no.

you should get a little bit better performance than i do with that gpu, and it get like 30 fps at native with path tracing lol

[prime gate]

That's what I was thinking. Thanks for letting me know. any does anyone know if TDA is using the transformer model for DLSS 4 RR?

[pastel pelican]

You can probably play. You'll want ray reconstruction off + dlss to get playable base performance

[pine gale]

as predicted,

now more players play eternal on steam than the relativly new doom dark ages (that got its major pathtracing patch a short while ago) .....

[restive vapor]

hey so im having an issue when i run fsr with an amd gpu and start any mission it just crashes, and yes my gpu drivers are up to date

doom the dark ages btw

[muted moon]

Hello guys! Sorry to bother but I’ve been EVERYWHERE looking for someone who’s having this issue but to no avail ended up joining this discord as it’s front and center on the main menu in DOOM Eternal.

Is anyone having (or had) a hard crash on Xbox (Series X) whenever you’re going to play as a demon? This happens even if I select a private match.

Tried uninstalling, reinstalling, changing back all demons to default skins, etc. Nothing is working.

Hopefully there’s someone who knows I’m truly desperate to fix this. 😦

[final mortar]

Is your storage almost full, idk I'm thinking of what it could be from

[muted moon]

You mean like console storage, well it says it has 115GB free so hopefully that’s enough. What’s weird is that I’ve had crashes in campaign and stuff from time to time but this crash is consistent. Every. Single. Time.

[final mortar]

Is it a launch model series x or has it been modded in any way?

[muted moon]

Not modded, it’s the 2TB Series X (the one with white spots around) Also of note is that I could play as a demon no problem like last week! This just happened since a couple days ago

[final mortar]

Was there a recent update to the series x?

[muted moon]

The console says there was one 06/20 so a week ago (could be it but would be very weird)

The only thing also “New” is that I bought the ancient gods DLC which was on sale a couple days ago, but I even removed that from the game installation when I reinstall and it stayed the same

[final mortar]

Then the conclusion that I've come to(note: I may be wrong) it could be that some data from the dlc is still in the game, even after you uninstalled, there could be leftover data that might be getting called into the game, therefore causing it to crash

[muted moon]

Thought of that, when you install Doom Eternal it asks you what you want to download, I actually even try to just download Battlemode (so not even the campaign) and still get crashed. My guess is that the game actually fully downloads and the “add ons” are just unlock keys to access the content so I don’t think there’s a way to don’t download the whole thing.

So annoying, I’ve seen a couple Reddit Posts having this exact issue so I know this is not something unheard.

[final mortar]

Then yeah, it's probably something leftover from the dlc. Idk how to fix it since I don't have eternal, but I'd recommend contacting Bethesda support

[muted moon]

Already did, though this being a 5 year old game at this point most likely won’t get much! But thank you for checking on this. Appreciate it

[final mortar]

Np

[muted moon]

Managed to fix it! So if anyone ever has this: I install ALL DLC and then I played the demons TUTORIALS (of all things) for every single demon. After that tried a match and got in no problem!

[final mortar]

Nice

[wraith turret]

Shooting my shot here, a while ago when I got back home in May I played some Doom eternal, and every now and again my whole display would lose signal to my PC, but the PC was still on, and Audio was still you know audible!

First time it was from start to half way in the first part of the hell level in eternal when you go through the sludge pits past the stomach titan. So I estimate about 1/2 hours in!

From there my second black screen was from the Super Gore nest to Taras Nabad in the throne room.

I've been reading some others have had issues but wondering if anyone here would directly know a fix by any chance?

[visual kernel]

So I try to log in on my Bethesda account on my ps5 for doom the dark ages and it won’t log me in so I can’t get the skin for signing in your account and won’t merge with my PlayStation account either, it just said contact Bethesda support

[candid cape]

i think also because doom eternal is very cheap now cus of steam summer sale when doom the dark ages is still at full price (very expensive)

[restive vapor]

hey so i have an fsr issue with doom the dark ages

[green pilot]

An annoying bug that keeps happening is my melee attack will just stop working. Please for the love of doom fix this. I've had to restart my pandemonium runs multiple times because of this

[true dawn]

And that is...?

[dim tusk]

why don't I see the dlss sharpness setting in my game? this yt video has it but I cannot see it ingame

[restive vapor]

when i run fsr with an amd gpu and start any mission it just crashes, and yes my gpu drivers are up to date

[true dawn]

Reinstall drivers maybe

[true dawn]

Do you have a 9000 GPU?

9070/9060

[restive vapor]

nah

[true dawn]

Then just use XESS. FSR 3 is absolutely terrible

[restive vapor]

does xess use frame generation?

[true dawn]

No but you can just turn on FSR frame gen iirc

FSR frame gen is not locked to FSR upscaling

[restive vapor]

no, it is

[true dawn]

Its not on 3.1. if it's locked to FSR in tda that's ids fault

You could install optiscaler, or use some other form of frame gen like lossless scaling or AFMF

[harsh willow]

dude

every time i launch the game bro it says tampered something something

what did i do? i justdownloadedmy game from the xbox game pass

can someone help PLEASE

[true dawn]

Verify files and make sure youre on the latest GPU drivers

[true dawn]

If that doesn't work, reinstal

[harsh willow]

i already did

[harsh willow]

also did that

[true dawn]

Then I have no idea, sorry

[harsh willow]

bro... ionly got gamepass for this game

@next lark please mister kroniid may you help me, with this problem, i am deseperate

[harsh willow]

I have the same thing

[true dawn]

Kroniid is a combat designer, and I'm pretty sure this is a problem with denuvo

So it's likely pretty much no one at id, especially not Kroniid can fix it

[harsh willow]

so painful...

im never going to play the game wtf...

[noble moat]

so I got a RTX 3070 with an AMD Ryzen 9 3900x. I'm on the first chapter of The Dark Ages and I'm now getting 30 FPS with DLSS quality on, at low settings. Game ready driver has been installed of course. Little confused on what else to do in order to enhance performance.

[noble moat]

I'm also thinking it could just be the rain tanking the FPS badly

but it just went back to good FPS, so I think the game is a little weird......I'll have to try to make sure my GPU isn't being overused or anything. I think reducing texture pool size helped a lot

[true dawn]

I would assume its vram related. try to reduce vram usage and see how it runs then

it definitely should be running much better than that on a 3070 i believe. assuming PT is off and youre around medium-high settings?

[noble moat]

Now I increased it back to medium high settings and it runs good

I think it could have been a big vram issue like you said

Before I was at like 6700 to 6800 MIB but after turning down the texture pool I am now at about 75 to 80 FPS with only about 6400 mib used

in 1440p, so I'll take it

[burnt timber]

drop it all the way to minimum. doesn't affect how the game looks

[native schooner]

Did the June update break something? Used to have no issues and now I can’t play for ten minutes before it freezes

[noble moat]

Yeah I did

I put everything at ultra nightmare and I still get good performance

[burnt timber]

Ah good then

[prime gate]

Is doom TDA working?

Or did a update break a thing

[sharp ether]

What do you mean by that? I'm watching someone play TDA right now live, so I can only guess the game is working.

[olive dragon]

mine is kinda broken

every time i launch i now get horizontal black bars at the top and bottom of the screen

even when i alt tab they are there

this wasnt happening like 3 days ago when i last played

[empty patrol]

ok what did we leave off on?

[outer trail]

the igpu thing

the 5600G is just a slightly worse version of the Non-X 5600

which is good news if you ever plan on getting a GPU

[empty patrol]

I'm currently going for the GT version and IF I ever want to add a GPU, I'll add like a 6600 or a 3050, and the only reason I'm going for the GT is just because the only pre-built I can find that fits my needs at an acceptable price has the GT only

I was only mentioning the 8000 GPUs just for future proofing and also getting access to DDR5 RAM for higher performance if I ever want to build a new PC

[outer trail]

8000 cpu's are not the best for future proofing lmao

not recommended

[empty patrol]

alright fair enough

I'll look more into future upgrades for later

[outer trail]

5000/7000/9000 are best for future proofing

but go with AM5 for actual future proofing

[torn elm]

Lotta future proofing in a few short sentences

[outer trail]

real

[empty patrol]

watch me go with an Athlon 3000G instead 🗿

[torn elm]

I see people doing cpu benchmarks at 4k and it’s genuinely gross

[empty patrol]

even 1440p on the 780M looks gross

[outer trail]

I don't get the 4k only benchmarks

literally almost no one plays on 4k

most are still on 1080p

[torn elm]

Even if they do, CPUs do literally nothing, the 5800x3d, 7800x3D and 9800x3d have the exact same performance at 4k

[empty patrol]

honestly 4K is just overrated

outside of just flexing

[outer trail]

4k is all GPU

[outer trail]

this, no

I've played on 4k before

[torn elm]

Nope

[outer trail]

I almost never came back

but remembered that it wasn't my monitor lmao

[torn elm]

I went down to 1440p from 4k and it still feels kinda pixely. But it’s an OLED so I’m happy

[empty patrol]

me personally, I wont use anything higher than 1080p so that I dont get used to a higher resolution and spend more money on hardware to always achieve that, doesn't matter anyway since I have a 1080p monitor 💀

[outer trail]

I would get OLED

if it didn't cost an arm and a leg

[torn elm]

They cost 400-500 bucks now

[outer trail]

my 1080p 180hz monitor cost 80

do u think I can afford let alone 400

[torn elm]

But the world will slowly move towards 4k, higher and higher resolutions. I think intel’s nova lake will help a lot with that. Their Xe4 cores act independently and it eliminates overhead between the dram and the vram of your GPU. Which is ALSO going to be a big deal with the intel GPU’s rumored to have hmb4

[empty patrol]

damn I feel scammed since my 1080p 75Hz costs 80 😭

[outer trail]

[torn elm]

Money

[empty patrol]

[outer trail]

well I might as well just get OLED

I'm currently building a 7800x3d + 5070

[torn elm]

If you have the specs for 1440p go for it

Yeah you defo have the specs

Go for it

[outer trail]

what's a good brand of OLED monitors, I prefer higher refresh rate

I compete in tier 3 valorant

[torn elm]

If I’m being real 2025 GPUs suck so much

Nvidia’s only real improvement this gen was the 5090, +30% better and they die all the time

Amd legit made the same performing GPU. 9070xt performs the same as a 7900xtx. Jesus Christ

[torn elm]

All current gen OLED panels are 240hz, they’re all made by LG and Samsung but the distributors are different

Which country do you live in?

[outer trail]

I got a deal on a 5070 for only 540 dollars lmao

[outer trail]

Philippines

[torn elm]

I can find you a good deal

[torn elm]

Okay lemme take a look

I forgot I have no idea how Philippines currency works

[outer trail]

1 USD is roughly 56 PHP

[torn elm]

I see

[outer trail]

my main concern is the burn

[torn elm]

They don’t burn if you enable the basic care protocols

[outer trail]

is OLED burn still a thing with current gen monitors

[torn elm]

Holy shit OLED’s are pricey in your country

[torn elm]

It’s a lot more rare, gen 3 panels are VERY sturdy

Just make sure you take the basic precautions, you’ll be good

[outer trail]

can I just use a screen saver or smth

[torn elm]

Yeah, but there’s also a tonne of “OLED care” options they have

Enable a screen saver, reduce HDR brightness to like 50 or something and you’ll be good

[outer trail]

everything is pricey here

[torn elm]

Yeah

The cheapest one is like 750 dollars

[true dawn]

I just got my first oled recently myself

an alienware ultrawide 240hz 1440x3440

[true dawn]

I think mine is gen 1 or gen 2. sources online are veryt inconsistent

[torn elm]

Which model specifically

[true dawn]

AW3425DW

[torn elm]

It’s gen 2

[true dawn]

so why do so many people say its gen 1

even monitors unboxed

[torn elm]

Use monitor asset manager

Check the manu id

[true dawn]

what am i looking for exactly?

[torn elm]

The last 2 characters

[true dawn]

last 2 characters of what?

[torn elm]

Of your manufacturer ID or model number

Look for B1, B2 B3 or C1, C2, or C3

[true dawn]

I dont see something like that anywhere

[torn elm]

That’s weird

Oh wait that’s the model and manufacturer NAME

not the ID

[true dawn]

there is no manu id

[torn elm]

You could also download CURU

[true dawn]

eh im not gonna bother

i dont think theres much of a difference between gen 1 and 2 anyway

[torn elm]

Ja

[modern bronze]

I just got 5070

[torn elm]

Nice

[modern bronze]

I hope it better then 3060

[burnt timber]

it is 2010 more better

[finite root]

being honest since the pathtracing update the game runs way, way worse. The system requirements should be updated because 8GB VRAM almost doesnt seem like enough anymore.

[gilded sentinel]

for some reason whenever i die theres like a 60% chance my game will drop frames when i load back in (usually down to like 40-45) im usually running 60 fps and running 50 fps on more demanding levels

[past shell]

There is a secret for doing double D-blades and arbalistas? i tried it with low fps, high fps, changing mouse polling rate, different timings and it does not seems to work... is it patched?

[true dawn]

Runs better than ever for me?

VRAM usage is the same too

[finite root]

i dont know the game is unplayable on 4060ti 8gb i give up its not as good as 2016 or eternal anyway

[true dawn]

It shouldn't be

That's probably a config issue

[finite root]

Nothing changed between when I played the first few chapters and when I started again after a few weeks except the updates. They messed it up horribly and shouldnt advertise this as a 8gb VRAM game anymore

[true dawn]

i know tonnes of people with a 8gb card running the game fine

[empty patrol]

take a good gander at this

Meanwhile this exists

[kindred lichen]

Hi

[empty patrol]

Hi

[true dawn]

thats an insane price for a 580

they are dirt cheap usually

[empty patrol]

anything above $110 is just a scam imo

since a 6600 is 10 bucks more used

[wraith turret]

So does anyone know why Eternal is the only game that disconnects my display and forces me to do a hard restart of my PC? Is it driver related issues or hardware?

[modest hearth]

Possibly, but I don't know, that's just a guess.

[wraith turret]

Its a strange issue
The timings for each display signal loss can be random
First time it started from hell on earth mission to half way through the first hell level before meeting the betrayer so about an hour?
The next time it was about 3 from that mission to getting the slayers crucible

[modern bronze]

What good 4k monitor to get

[pastel pelican]

Do you still hear the audio? Some people have had issues with their refresh rate changing when they launch the game in the past. Maybe look at vsync, freesync, lowering the game's res etc

[wraith turret]

absolutely I do

So it was tied to refresh rate? hmm
How in the hell does it disable the whole monitor though?

[wraith turret]

I'll try that though, do I turn refresh rate down or up?

[pastel pelican]

there are loads of possible versions of 'refresh rate problem' so it's hard to say

I'd probably try different settings, toggling freesync if poss

[dreamy wraith]

#the-dark-ages message

[true dawn]

two gpus? is it for lossless scaling?

[dreamy wraith]

kinda. mostly for physx but i still do most of my gaming on the bottom card

[modern bronze]

Is 5070 good for every game

[true dawn]

yes

[modern bronze]

Some people say for older games is not that great

[true dawn]

if youre talking about physx thats very very few games and thats just a setting that can be turned off

[modern bronze]

Ok I'm just checking

[zealous condor]

Tech Issue. Everytime I open Eternal my window is tiny or doesn't open at all. What do I do? I hear the music, I can interact with the game still, I just can't see

Nevermind, figured it out

[pseudo trellis]

Hey everyone! 👋

I'm looking for someone to help me grind the "Not A Scratch" trophy in DOOM Eternal Battlemode.

I need to heal 50,000 HP as a support demon (using Team Heal). If anyone is down to play some matches and help each other out, I'd really appreciate it 🙏

I'm available [insert your time or timezone], and we can play 2v1 or private matches if that helps

[signal path]

What could go wrong if u add a AI to this convo go to @sindessa_ai on x/twitter

[empty patrol]

i feel like this is a scam

[final mortar]

What website?

[empty patrol]

newegg

that motherboard and the fact it says RX 580 16gb is the main thing that makes me think its a scam

[final mortar]

I don't blame you, but the again that's your choice

[empty patrol]

i wasnt gonna buy it anyways, i just found it randomly 😭

[final mortar]

Mb

[torn elm]

That’s a really bad deal, you can get an amazing pc for 500 bucks

Scam imo

[true dawn]

Scam? No. Newegg is very reliable.

But it's obviously not worth that price

[slender heron]

Can u donate me a pc with gtx 1050

[dreamy wraith]

yuh

[empty patrol]

based card

[slender heron]

I have Quadro k1000m It's like 10 dollar card plz donate me

[slender heron]

Donate me plz

[empty patrol]

brother I don't even own a GPU and my next PC uses a Ryzen 5 5600GT and no GPU

[slender heron]

Can it play doom eternal?

[empty patrol]

not really but my most demanding game I play is Genshin Impact and it can run it well enough

And I might add a GTX 1650 later so I can play Destiny 2

[slender heron]

I'm sorry for you loss brother

[slender heron]

Donate me that card

[empty patrol]

I'm bored of Eternal so not a loss

[empty patrol]

nope

[slender heron]

I wish I could play it, I downloaded it on my switch and then my switch SD card slot bricked now I can't play doom eternal

[slender heron]

I was joking sorry

[empty patrol]

well even then, a 1050 wont be able to run DE much better than your Switch

[slender heron]

No 1050 is very good card I saw on YouTube it ran it like 60fps on 1080

[empty patrol]

an RX 580 or GTX 1650 are recommended for that game for it to ACTUALLY run optimally

since thats a game where you want over 60 FPS

[slender heron]

Ok I will install them on my PC

[empty patrol]

unless if youre casual than thats your choice

[slender heron]

My monitor is 2005 720p screen it's showing 45hz

[empty patrol]

if your casual than a 1050 Ti would be my minimum but even then, a 580 is cheaper by like 30 bucks

[true dawn]

I think you are massively confused about the abilities of a 1050

even a 1050 runs laps around a switch easily

[empty patrol]

oh damn 😭

[slender heron]

I wish I have pc cabaplbe of running this game please god help me please

[true dawn]

yeah just get the 580

[slender heron]

My switch was lagging on Roblox

[slender heron]

My lord spawned me broke mman

[empty patrol]

the only issue is that the 580 is often a 2048SP model, it's still great but not as valuable, and they often dont last more than 2 years due to them often being ex mining cards

[slender heron]

My card was made for playing fifa 2013

[empty patrol]

it's 80-100 bucks so it's your best option unless you want to go used

[slender heron]

Yeah but I need CPU motherboard and case for pc, I only have laptop and Nintendo swithc

[empty patrol]

lemme put together a list for budget parts real quik

[slender heron]

Ok thanks

[true dawn]

by a used dell optiplex

you can get them super easy and cheap off fb marketplace or ebay

[slender heron]

Yes my friend told me about them he said I can but them and then buy ontop rtx gpu

[true dawn]

and then buy the most expensive gpu you can afford

[slender heron]

Aight I will utilize this technique

[slender heron]

I have 3 dollars in account

[true dawn]

you may also need a power supply

[slender heron]

No don't worry my father pays for electricity bill so I don't need

[true dawn]

go to bed and play the game in a dream

[slender heron]

😭😭😭

[empty patrol]

adds up to around 400 USD

[slender heron]

My cousin was caught using filters

[true dawn]

...A power supply is a part in the pc. its the thing that you plug into the wall that then directs power to the rest of the parts

[slender heron]

Wow this will run any game

[empty patrol]

ehhh

[slender heron]

Very cheap but I'm a broke boy

[empty patrol]

it can run MOST games that dont use ray tracing

[true dawn]

get the cpu on aliexpress and save a lot of money

[empty patrol]

I was just making an example but that works as well

[slender heron]

Oh me apolizise I thought you were talking about the power bill

[dreamy wraith]

my 7600 died so I have to play dark ages with my igpu😭

[slender heron]

Aliexpress shipping is like 120$ dollars they scam you

[empty patrol]

I'm assuming you have an 8600G or 8700G since aint no way any other iGPU can run that game

[slender heron]

Donate me I will fix

[true dawn]

its usually free or fairly cheap where i live

[dreamy wraith]

hacked switch>>>>> i get 60fps in doom eternal or just about 100% res scale at 30fps

[empty patrol]

I personally found AliExpress kinda shady but Jawa and eBay are good options too for saving money

[slender heron]

I live in Iraq so no cheap over here cause they afraid they will die

[dreamy wraith]

ebay my goat

[true dawn]

I just sold my old gpu, so reaaaaaallly hoping that doesnt happen. Aint running shit on 11700 igpu

[slender heron]

Impossible

How donate me your technique

[dreamy wraith]

rip😭😭 yeah 9700X with its 2 RT cores go brrr

[true dawn]

Its not really shady anymore. Just go with a seller with good ratings and youll be fine

[empty patrol]

oh ok, I guess I'm still used to them selling knock off broken 3rd party controllers 😭

[dreamy wraith]

you get buyer protection

[true dawn]

ive used them to buy tonnes of action figures and stuff like that

you get hella good prices, plus you get things early typically

[slender heron]

Does anyone need art I'm artist I will draw and you can donate me money

[empty patrol]

my favorite art is PC Building and I like being able to do it myself 😭

[split cairn]

Pringint this for my bambu A1 Mini to make my head/nozile look like the shield from doom the dark ages.

[forest zenith]

yy

[spring yoke]

Hey umm can someone me ,??

[steady hamlet]

What?

[empty patrol]

rate this as my future build(I got bored on PCPartPicker)

wait replaced the 8gb card with the 16gb

accident

[storm quartz]

I'm thankful I have a small screen

[empty patrol]

how tf are you even playing TDA

[storm quartz]

dev build bro dont ask how

[versed flume]

Another Doom, epic

[torn elm]

5/10

[true dawn]

get different ram, and you dont really need such an expensive ssd for this budget, i would swap it out for a 512gb or 1tb and then get a sata for games. Also the h6 flow already comes with 3 fans iirc, which should be enough for you.

I think if you adjust those things, and esspecially if youre willing to shop used, you can get a better gpu

[torn elm]

sata isnt worth it for games tbh, spending 50 bucks on an Sn580 blue or an Mp44L is a good option for a 1 TB M.2, also his psu is pretty goofy, so going for an 850 W would be better aswell

[true dawn]

850 would be overkill

650/700 is more than enough

[torn elm]

Nope, don’t go bare minimum especially when 850 watts is 40 bucks away. Higher capacitance is always a good idea

[glossy lily]

Doom slayer and the revent in Tony hawks pro skater before gta 6

[split cairn]

Here is my setup!!!!

[final mortar]

Sick

[empty patrol]

The wattage said like 371 so 650 is enough

[torn elm]

Always get your psu by the GPU manufacturer’s reccomendations

550W is the minimum reccomendation, but you should always go higher capacitrnce

[empty patrol]

650 is a good chunk more than 550 so there is no reason to go higher, especially since none of my desired games need anything more than like an RX 580 or GTX 1650 to run well so I won't be upgrading anytime soon

[torn elm]

My guy, it’s about stability and consistency, your overspending on your case, and fans, and SSD by a lot, seriously take 20 dollars of that money, get a 750W gold enermax or something. Get a better GPU too

I assume your buying from the U.S.?

[torn elm]

fucking incredible

@empty patrol here, this is a better list with higher quality parts too, and its cheaper by about 100 dollars

if you want to make up that gap you can get this cpu for an extra 100 dollars, more cores, more threads, better at multitaskng too

[true dawn]

6/10. Very nice monitor, and I love the matching red aesthetic with the peripherals. But clean up yo desk dog, and get your PC on your desk to keep it clean and look at the pretty components.

Also really like the (magic?) cards above the monitor, but it feels underwhelming. A poster or a shelf with other MTG related items would be really sick.

Ordinarily I would say get another monitor, but with a 32;9 there's not a lot of room lol

[split cairn]

With the monitor being a super ultra wide 57 Inch it won't fit on the desk because it's a 70 deck and the monitor take up about 90% of the desk.

[true dawn]

The image looks like there's plenty of room, but maybe it's just the camera angle or something

[true dawn]

Ok actually this angle makes it look a lot better

7/10 but for the love of God invest in Velcro or zip ties and get that spaghetti in order

[split cairn]

Lololololololol your not wrong

[true dawn]

The lamp placement and the position relative to the window is really good. Minimizes glare

And is that a UPS down there? Nice

[split cairn]

Yes a UPS and the desk vs the window is really the only place I can put it in my living room.

Your not wrong about the cable management.

[true dawn]

Well since I criticized yours so harshly, here's mine

Roast my setup

[split cairn]

No, you didn't. Criticize mine you gave me constructive criticism that made me want to make mine better

[true dawn]

Yeah well no point in saying "yeah it sucks" lol

[split cairn]

New more art in the wall and secondly that one wire sitting sadly by your desktop needs to be hidden. Lol but who am I to talk about my wires. Lol

No it don't suck. If it works for you and your happy then it's amazing!!!

[true dawn]

Oh trust me this pic doesn't do the pasta justice

[split cairn]

Lol

[true dawn]

its managed, but only in the loosest definition

[split cairn]

Nice!!!

[true dawn]

at one point it was much nicer, but after a i had to redo it like 6 times in a month i just gave up

and i do keep meaning to get more posters, but i keep forgetting lol. Wanna get a totk poster of the exact same style to go with this botw one

[true dawn]

that stresses me out man..

[split cairn]

That's how it looked before I put it on the arm mount.

[true dawn]

but at least now i can tell by that distinct backside its a g9 right?

is it the oled or the lcd

[split cairn]

Yes it's LCD not OLED. I had the 49 OLED one but it was just a weird design and after seeing this one I had to get the 57 inch

[true dawn]

ah nice

my main monitor is an alienware oled and im extremely happy with it

While im not as obsessed with oled as the rest of the world seems to be, i definitely wouldnt go back to 16;9. ultrawide is just so perfect imo

[split cairn]

Mine is a super ultra wide. The 49 inch Samsung was a weird monitor. It had its own os built into it and I was not impressed.

[true dawn]

Oh yeah I forgot it's a smart monitor

[split cairn]

Now look at this little CPU I picked up. It sits under my big ass monitor. I pick it up and take it in the go to play final fantasy xiv and Diablo 4 right now.

[true dawn]

Is the 57 inch 1440 or 2160?

[true dawn]

I also have an ally. It's a really nice handheld

[split cairn]

The 57 inch is 7680x2160

[true dawn]

Damn, that's a lot of pixels

You must have a monster PC to push that huh? I'm assuming 7900 xtx or better

[split cairn]

It can do 240 refresh rate but I keep it at 140 it runs better. I am running a Nvidia 5080 with 32 GB of video memory and 64 of ram

[true dawn]

5080 is 16 gb of vram

did you mean 5090?

[split cairn]

Oh my bad then 16gb of video memory. It is a 5080

[true dawn]

What is the advantage of lowering your refresh rate? does it not support HDR at 240 or something?

[split cairn]

But still it's bad ass.

Problem is HDR on that big thing looks washed out.

240 looks great but when you go back to your desktop it flickers a little bit (I mean just like when the connection is not right randomly and it's because of that style monitor. So keeping it at 140 I feel runs everything smoother and looks better.

[true dawn]

huh. fair enough i guess

[split cairn]

Yeah it's maybe me not having the setting set right but for what it is it looks amazing.

But your setup is still good for your space. I had never built my own system before and when my uncle passed away unpaid my car off and maxed out for my budget the PC I wanted with the monitor I found!!!!!

[torn elm]

HDR will only looked washed out if the color volume of your monitor isnt high enough

get yourself a good mini led, or an oled, youll never turn HDR off again

[terse gate]

computer battery

[torn elm]

what

my guy this isnt google 😭

[terse gate]

I know but it's tech talk

[torn elm]

what was you trying to say?

[terse gate]

Computer battery just for some stupid little thing but I'll go