#tech-talk

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prisma wasp
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Not my issue, those are what you need.

hollow notch
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💀

gilded monolith
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anyone know why when i load up doom eternal on steam it just gets stuck ona loading screen ?

hasty sierra
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Just adding some extra info here.
They have a 1650 Super. They have already verified game files and also checked if their iGPU was being used over their dedicated.

sacred basalt
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wait

hallow crypt
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I am wondering about that too. Cause it would be nice to get a code for consoles if one doesn’t have a disc reader

night idol
hallow crypt
hallow crypt
hasty sierra
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I hate one companies do one over the other tbh

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especially digital code only

fiery atlas
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? Elfhosted

deep dagger
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Should i buy flex psu 1U

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It seem will be smaller to fit 2 bracker gpu

candid cape
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I am playing the super gore nest master level extra life mode on ultra violence difficulty in doom eternal. And I got to the final battle on the game before destroying the gore nest. Now it's infinityly spawning imps and not letting me continue the game. How can I fix this without having to reset the mission.(I died and lost all my progress)

finite badge
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optimize ur device

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run it in 800x600, then u could try to use lossless scaling, and maybe it could work, just maybe

deft dragon
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I will not be able to play Doom: The Dark Ages on my 1080ti😭

deft dragon
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i'll just put it here ```

Planned obsolescence, cards need to be sold, shareholders needs to be happy, economy go up.

The only way to do that is planned obsolescence or an actual leap.

Better gameplay systems don't sell cards, better graphics do.

Well what if you can't make better graphics?

You make a "tech" that's only available on new hardware.

I'm not saying RT is bullshit, but they didn't do an alternative for exactly this reason.

It's not optional for a reason and fanboy crusaders are here to shame and crush the dissenting oppinion.

"It's been out for six years"

Remove the RT and even older cards can run it.

Tired of pretending this has nothing to do with capitalism and big tech corporations needing to make more than before.

night plaza
# deft dragon i'll just put it here ``` Planned obsolescence, cards need to be sold, sharehol...

Honestly? It's kinda that plus wanting to get out of work. Especially with Unreal.

RT and Path Tracing cuts out a need for a bunch of hand placed lights, baked in light and shadow maps, also dlss and frame gen reduces the need for optimization ..

Devs want to do less work and not only get paid the same but more along with the huge corporations behind them. Reduce dev time = more products out the door sooner while reducing the dev costs while they get paid more via wanting to charge 100 dollars for a base game.

"Digital distribution will drive the costs of games down" remember that lie? Now we all but lost physical games and the price is going up not down for games we can't even own a copy of...less you buy it on GoG. Anyway thats a side tangent.

Theres no doubt path traced games can and do look better but the acompining software technology like frame gen, shouldn't be used as a crutch to get out of a bulk of optimization work . Which is how it's likely predominantly used. Not to mention what it does to image quality. There's games 10 years old that look on par or sometimes better than a lot of AAA releases.

Idk. Personally, I just want my physical media back. Heck, they could put doom the dark ages on a official themed USB drive and let people own the copy they purchased again. This didn't hurt a damn thing prior to steam , it didn't stop piracy, it didn't make games cheaper on the consumer end going all digital distribution and being granted (after retail sale) a mere arbitrary license suspendedable at any time for any reason.. why are we doing this again?!

I'll pay 80 or even 100 bucks for physical releases, complete with full color manuals etc like they used to do. Give me physical games I can own again I won't complain about your RT requirements and Frame gen shortcuts! Lol

tall mason
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Does anyone know how to fix the glitch where the gunpletionist trophey on ps4 edition does not pop even after mastering all guns. I believe I used the IDCFK Cheat for a little bit but idk what to do

deft dragon
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As far as i know, nothing, any cheat == No achievement.

wide relic
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Will Doom the dark ages run on my friend's 2060 laptop? Or complete crap and unplayable?

wide relic
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No.

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It says it needs a 2060 super desktop and it a 2060 laptop is even slower than the 2060 desktop.

prisma wasp
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So the laptop has a base 2060, not a 2060 Super?

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Also a 2060 in a laptop uses the same chip as a full desktop 2060.

rotund abyss
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guess i need to upgrade

signal mica
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When I open Doom Eternal, I get the message "incompatible driver" and the game closes. What can I do?

night idol
hybrid anvil
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Hey guys. I wanted to play Doom Eternal on my RTX 4090 laptop before the release of Dark Ages. I installed it yesterday.

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But I am experiencing severe crashing. It runs silky smooth at around 250FPS for a few minutes, and then just shuts down. I remember playing it on my 1050ti without any issues, 4 years ago. I have tried every setting. Any solution will be greatly appreciated.

olive dawn
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do you think I could play the first Doom on this?

drifting blade
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The person to start the "can it run DOOM" meme must be really proud

candid cape
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Hey guys I want to open a new app while playing doom but I can't get the mouse out of the game screen any solution?

hasty sierra
candid cape
hasty sierra
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Alt Tab usually works

candid cape
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I tried alt tab didn't work

hasty sierra
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Check if it's in borderless, I guess?

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I don't have Eternal installed atm so I can't fully assist

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like maybe you could pull up task manager to trick it?

candid cape
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Alright 👍 will try later

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Thanks for the advice

hasty sierra
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I sorta doubt it'll work but it's worth a try

merry magnet
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got a question, has anyone been able to install doom resurection in anything yet? am trying to install the files on a jailbroken iphone 4s with ios 9,3,5

torn elm
torn elm
torn elm
torn elm
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@tame oyster hey lets talk here

tame oyster
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It's getting late and I'm going to sleep we should talk tomorrow 👍

torn elm
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sure, cya tomorrow 👍

hasty sierra
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Plus the fact the older gen consoles have been dropped, there’s literally zero reason for developers to have to be stuck on older hardware.

torn elm
hasty sierra
torn elm
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They can

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But their RT cores are far behind in complexity and design than nvidia cards are

gritty oak
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Im worried about my cpu underperforming, I don't know much about computers, but a i7-11800H is decent right? (Along side a 3070)

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It ran Doom Eternal like a dream before my laptop slowed down from age and a ton of use

torn elm
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when was the last time you updated your drivers

gritty oak
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Recently, like 2 months ago when it started slowing down

prisma wasp
# gritty oak Im worried about my cpu underperforming, I don't know much about computers, but ...

It's a solid CPU, even by todays standards. A lot of the slow-down can be due to windows bloating itself over time, it could also be a cooling issue, or storage might be starting to slow down due to age, but the CPU itself should still be pretty strong.

I'd recommend giving your fans a blowout, in case it's simply slowing down from heat, using crystaldisk to check the speeds of the drive (Slower drive speeds than what the drive is meant to be capable of can be an indicator of a dying drive), and maybe look into doing a completely fresh Windows install.

gritty oak
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I've cleaned my fans, but crystaldisk and reinstalling windows is new. I'll try those. Thank you

rotund abyss
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i currently have a 2070. do you think id be ok to use that to run dark ages or should i upgrade to a 5070?

unborn walrus
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I would get the 5070 when it drops

prisma wasp
unborn walrus
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$549 ain't a bad price tbh

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for the 5070

prisma wasp
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I'm looking at about $1400 for the ti, but that's.. not too bad for AUD.

unborn walrus
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what do you have atm?

prisma wasp
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But I'm overhauling my entire system, and I can put the 3070 in something else, so I'm just gonna pick up an entirely new current-gen GPU.

unborn walrus
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neat

gritty oak
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Would it be worth trying to upgrade a cpu in a alienware laptop? Or should I just shelve it and get a better device?

unborn walrus
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get a desktop

prisma wasp
gritty oak
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Dang it, okay thanks

tame oyster
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@torn elm ok so I gotta know which game monitor should I get if I want to play games that r like 4k, 720p60, 1080p60, coloring is good. Because I plan to play games from PS5, Xbox, PC. Ratchet & Clank Rift Apart has a setting where u can put ray tracing, performance.

torn elm
tame oyster
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I know it depends on budget but I'm probably gonna buy expensive stuff because I want to keep up with new games coming out. And honestly I don't know which game monitor to get that will allow me to play old PS2 and 3 games, PS5, Xbox Series X, and PC

empty patrol
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first PC build, and deadass, I dont understand PC stuff so sorry if the parts suck or wont work with eachother

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its for GZDoom btw so i dont need super high end parts

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ight thank you

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alright

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this case any better?

weary tendon
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Or a RX 6400

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Or not, nevermind, this one is too little bang for the buck, the RX 580 is better

torn elm
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@empty patrol try getting this case, it has preinstalled fans and super easy to build in, the fans are based on the phanteks d30's which are considered to be some of the best pc fans on the market, and plenty of size and space to build in

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correct, also if you can save that 25 bucks on not buying a cooler, then you could direct that into buying a 5600 new even since it costs 100 dollars give or take but has huge benifits

torn elm
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Oh what, that didn’t load, sound advice on your part then

broken dagger
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Hi all, I am having this strange problem in Doom Eternal in my new build, getting these regular CPU latency spikes that cause a stutter in game. 9800X3D with RTX3080Ti all latest drivers. I've tried many many things but can't get this to go away. Anyone ever dealt with something like this? Thanks

broken dagger
torn elm
broken dagger
torn elm
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Try running a cmos reset then

broken dagger
torn elm
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Ah alright

broken dagger
vast forum
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Hello, I recently got Doom eternal on steam
First run went fine but the next day when starting i get a blackscreen , i tried everything online to solve it and nothing works. (I am on a laptop connected to a monitor) , if i disconnect the monitor the game works on the laptop, but when the monitor is connected it doesnt start up and just freezes my screen

night idol
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Can you check, if this problem is on another game aswell?

vast forum
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no other game

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only on doom eternal

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It has something to do with my monitor but i have no idea why , first time i played it runned flawless, i set all graphics to ultra and textures to nightmare, ive read somewhere that for some people running on higher settings causes this, but i dont understand why it would

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now when i try to run it, it shows the loading thing in the bottom left, shows 75 fps in the top right corner, and freezes black, only way to move to another window is to ctrl alt del and end task

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i hear the music tho

vast forum
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so update if anyone has also encountered this, i disabled nvidia overlay and set it to windows 7 compatibility

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this didnt work before but now it did?

ornate forge
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Hello I remember playing Doom Eternal around maybe 2020-2021, but dropped it on like the chapter after you unlock BFG or on the chapter you get it. I got all unlockables on all the maps before that and played on nightmare. I still think I have my save on PC but it wont register on my Doom Eternal game. Does anybody know of a way to either import a save from a specific chapter online or from here, how to fix this or do you just recommend playing through the game from the beginning (incl dlcs).

quaint copper
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La caca

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Wait which is better. The 3060, 3080, 3090 or 4060 :d

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Im not good in thus

candid cape
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Well I got a Evga 3090 ti so I choose that 1.

torn elm
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and its not even close

torn elm
quaint copper
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wrong reply mb lmao

torn elm
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all good, but, theyre very expensive right now, are you looking to build a pc?

hollow mango
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what´s better a SSD and a Nvme or just a Nvme?

hasty sierra
hollow mango
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Play and maybe edit some videos, i have been running a long time with just a HDD, so it's time for an upgrade

torpid cypress
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hello hello. wondering if anyone can help cause I can't see anything online. I have a 3080ti, i5-13700k, 32gb ram, 165hz 2k monitor and I get this very weird and ugly shaders/textures artefacts. tried the following:
disable HDR, match refresh rate and fps, clean driver install, vsync on/off, messing around with graphic qualities. This doesn't happen in any other game

sharp vale
# torpid cypress hello hello. wondering if anyone can help cause I can't see anything online. I h...

Well, artifacting is usually a sign that your Graphics Card is on its last leg, but the fact that it doesn't happen on any other game rules that out. Another offender could just be that your game install itself is botched or something, However, even though I haven't played the game before, from the bulk of the weapon and the general surroundings (plus the little bit of sky poking out from the left side of the image), I don't think that you've just started the game, which means it can't be a botched install, else you would have reported it earlier. In other words: I am unable to help, I am sorry for wasting your time.

torpid cypress
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lol thanks for that. That is actually the first level. I guess I'll wait for Dark Ages since Eternal is a bit too HC for me 🙂

sharp vale
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If you want a look at it, here's the code: TY5DAE8N

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I feel obligated to send this aswell

torn elm
torpid cypress
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No, I used NVCleaninstall

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but I'll try that. @torn elm thx

torn elm
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All good, do try DDU

whole vale
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Does anybody know if it's possible to remove the meat hook and lock on burst reticle? I've already lowered the hud opacity. Cheers!

winged shard
clever marsh
quaint copper
quaint copper
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Xd

clever marsh
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I’d say go for above 3090 and below 4060

quaint copper
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When i get enough money i will build my own pc

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Im going to get a, 4060, 2 ddr5 64 gigs, Ryzen 7 7800x3d fans yes,

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And new case

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The problem is i dont have enough money yet

torn elm
torn elm
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get a 3080 or a 3090 but a 4060 is a waste

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also you dont need 64 gb of ram for gaming, for other stuff yes but not gaming, id say save that money and put that 100 extra bucks into your gpu

quaint copper
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Oh. Im not good at those stuff so the higher the better? And my budget is 1000$ and idk what to get

hot estuary
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i need help with doom eternal, i genuinely cannot get past the first level on pc, everything runs fine and i can actually beat the level and get to the end no problem, but once i pick continue on the results screen, it just says "saving please wait" and then it all freezes except for the music

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i verified the game files integrity on steam, that didn't fix anything

torn elm
gritty oak
torn elm
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ooooof

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you shoulda consulted a tech enthousaist my guy

gritty oak
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I finally got a upgrade though so im happy

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I asked for assistance in a lot of places and no one would really give me advice,I decided to go for cheap and upgrade later

torn elm
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ah i see

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when did you buy it? and what were you upgrading from?

gritty oak
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I got it Friday, pre built pc from best buy

torn elm
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ah okay, what are the total specs m8

gritty oak
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The 4060ti ofc, i7-14700F, 16 gigs of ram and 1tb ssd, for $1,300

torn elm
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not bad actually, not bad

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USA right?

gritty oak
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It was on sale from $1,800 so im happy, and yes USA

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I upgraded from a alienware x17 r1 with a 3070

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I7-11800H (I think)

torn elm
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oh?

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you may not notice much of an upgrade, apart from the cpu of course

gritty oak
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Oh no, it's been massive. I had a lot of issues with the laptop

torn elm
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ah

gritty oak
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I don't think it was pasted correctly or something, heating issues like crazy

torn elm
gritty oak
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I had it for 4 years 💀

torn elm
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oh boy

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you got a good deal though, is it liquid cooled?

gritty oak
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It was impossible to do though unprofessionally, I was watching the Salem technician or whatever his name was and his advice was "don't do it" lol

gritty oak
torn elm
gritty oak
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As a newbie I was overwhelmed, I picked that thing out when I was 15 and should have done research other than "OOHHH PRETTY"

torn elm
torn elm
gritty oak
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I don't remember exactly but I know it hasn't been over 170, at least everytime I check

torn elm
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170?

gritty oak
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I rounded up because it was jumpy, at the same time though I could have it confused with something else because the alienware control panel is goofy and switches a bunch. (It was a alienware rebuilt lol)

torn elm
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id suggest you do this:

  1. Go to youtube and figure out how to download msi afterburner
  2. Check your temperatures in games

(for example, this is the overlay i have in all of my games)

gritty oak
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My dyslexic butt probably read it wrong, it hasen't felt hot at all

torn elm
torn elm
gritty oak
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Okay

torn elm
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like, over time youll notice crashes, and less performance

gritty oak
torn elm
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if your temperatures arent kept in check

gritty oak
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I really wish I took better care of my laptop, this last year I finally bought a stand to keep it off the desk and I should have started with that

torn elm
torn elm
gritty oak
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I appreciate any help, thank you. I'm sorry if I came off as rude I was trying to be funny, re reading what I sent looks mean

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Im definitely downloading the afterburner, thanks for that

torn elm
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nono absolutely not, you didnt come off as rude at all, but absolutely check afterburner, your pc is ready to handle the dark ages for sure

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and hey, if in the next 2 months you can get enough cash to spec out a monitor, id say go for it lmao

neon flume
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Guys I have a question:
how do i abuse 2016 gauss cannon siege mode? I heard there is a trick when quick swapping.

slate brook
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I think it is about holding the charge while swapping

neon flume
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Is there a video or something demonstrating because I am kind of struggling to pull it off

slate brook
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but not sure

neon flume
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Should I ask in 2016 chat?

sharp vale
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yet...

gritty oak
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I accidentally bought a ethernet cable thats a foot long it can't reach anything 😭

slate brook
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damn

versed mauve
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Thinking about taking a simpler source port and porting it to Ruby in a “will it run doom” kind of way. Anyone got suggestions on where to start?

gritty oak
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How bad is this for my PC airflow?

warm girder
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absolutely will not cause any issues

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your lego might get warm, though.

gritty oak
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I saw a Lego melt the other day on reddit I might should think about that lol

quaint copper
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which is 2k total

torn elm
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Just build your own pc my guy, it’s more cost effective and it’s also more fun

quaint copper
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nah im not that good at building

torn elm
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No one is initially, but a pc is like a car, you’ll feel proud of yourself that you did, also prebuilt pcs really do tend to be scams since they either use bad/slow ram and storage OR they use low end motherboards with badly branded power supplies

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A 2k pc can be amazing if you make it yourself

quaint copper
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well yesh but i want this one

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i found it on Nzxt so im not sur

torn elm
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Oh Jesus please don’t buy that lmao, nzxt prebuilts suck, their stuff (other than cases) are flimsy and break.

How bout I make a list of parts for you, and you can have it made by a tech shop near you. It saves you cash, and time

quaint copper
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sur

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i was going home from school and saw a tech shop with a 4090 in it today

torn elm
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Oh jeez

quaint copper
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shall i get it or go for the 4060, 70 or 80

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or the 4090 \

torn elm
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I sent you a list, it has the 5070 in it, without the 5070 it has about 800 dollars worth of GPU you can fit in there, so if you can find a card that’s better than the 5070 (like a 4070 ti super) then get it. It should be about 800 bucks

But obviously 4090 is the best card out of all of them, don’t get a 5090 yet. It has safety issues

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It’s in your DMs if you were wondering

quaint copper
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okkk

granite river
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Ok, I pretty new to this Discord.
I'm also a PC noob.
Will my current PC be able to handle DooM The Dark Ages.
See below picture for specs, yes it's a pre-built...

hasty sierra
prisma wasp
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CPU doesn't have enough cores/threads but the GPU is good enough for Minimum.

olive geyser
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All the 9070xt GPUs were out of stock and 150$ more so I got this

torn elm
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Niiiiice

torn elm
torn elm
prisma wasp
torn elm
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I hope he can still squeeze by with a 5600x tho, despite the core count not living up to it. Since the 5600 and the 3700 perform the same

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Maybe if he makes a custom built instead he could put a 5700x3D in there to get him comfortably in the clear

prisma wasp
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It's doubtful. Core count is pretty important and if it's not up to par, it simply won't function.

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I'd also highly recommend just getting a base 5700x; the 3d runs slower than the stock, both base and boost clock, as well as uses significantly less power.

torn elm
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If this pc is strictly gaming, 5700x3D is the way to go. The extra V cache really helps with asset loading

torn elm
prisma wasp
torn elm
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Based on every benchmark I’ve seen the 5700x3d averages about 20 fps more than the base model in games, with a max of 35 fps more. And…as someone that repairs pcs….they’re fine tbh, getting a shit bin shouldn’t matter as long as they’re not running PBO or undervolting or anything…which they probably won’t be.

But yeah, new cpu

granite river
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Thanks for the input

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I'm looking into getting a better CPU.

torn elm
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on your current build?

sick marsh
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will my 3060 ti be able to run the dark ages at 1440p

tame oyster
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Hey I heard that next gen Xbox is coming out 2027, if it does should I wait or get the series x

torn elm
sick marsh
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144 hz, intel i3

torn elm
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What specific i3? Can you check by going into task manager -> performance -> cpu

tame oyster
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Which brand is better for gaming: Razer or Logitech. In terms of mouse, keyboard, webcam, etc. Or should I look for a cheap and affordable game mouse and keyboard that last long.

torn elm
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how cheap?

tame oyster
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I don't know like 50 - 70 bucks

torn elm
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for the mouse AND keyboard?

tame oyster
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Yes. For webcam I'm thinking razer kiyo.

torn elm
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wait so, is 50-70 bucks for the keyboard and mouse and webcam combined or is webcam a seperate thing?

tame oyster
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Seperate

prisma wasp
tiny lily
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because as brands in general theyre both good id just go with logitech bc i prefer the look

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im just thinking abt mice though idk how their other peripherals stack up

tame oyster
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I have no idea. The only brands I can think of r good r Logitech and Razer

prisma wasp
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Honestly? Logitech. Razer quality is abysmal and their software is garbage.

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Logitech will last a hell of a lot longer.

orchid belfry
tiny lily
orchid belfry
tiny lily
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i dont remember but ur pfp's kinda familiar

orchid belfry
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Yes, its my cosplay

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But I do not have this one either lol

prisma wasp
# orchid belfry Im not gonna contradict you about Logitech, but I do not know any other software...

Out of the 200+ people I've spoken to, maybe 3 of them have said they've had good experiences with Razer.

Generally the build quality is easily among the worst ever seen, and the software is broken, buggy, barely functional, and while it may have many feaatures, it doesn't fix the fact the software is coded so unbelievably badly, you'd think it was made in less than 30 minutes.
iCUE is probably the better option, but Corsair mice are large, where-as Logitech mice are simply far, far superior; significantly better wireless performance than anything else on the market, incredibly long battery life, and better weight customization than pretty much anyone else on the market.

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People can certianly buy razer but it's a 70/30 chance you're either getting lucky with a razer product that might've actually been built well for once, or you're getting garbage that's dead in two months tops. It's just safer to go for pretty much any other brand.

orchid belfry
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maybe im just too careful with my stuff, I've heard stuff about PS5 controllers or switch drifts, never had a problem

prisma wasp
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Potentially; I haven't had any issues with controllers because I simply don't use them. I think the only issues I've ever had have mainly been pretty much anything from razer, or one of EPOS's headsets, which pretty much solidified never using either.

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Used to have a naga for WoW, and then mid-Mythic it completely died on me nearly 3 months after I bought it, picked up another because I needed an MMO mouse, and it lasted just as long.

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I'd honestly say for a good mix of incredible mouse quality, and never really needing to ever use software, Logitech's G502X is probably the best mouse on the market.
Incredibly low minimum DPI, insanely high maximum DPI, ridiculously good sensor, a few extra buttons, two for DPI, and two for forward/back in browsers, or using as push-to-talk keys, and if you get the wireless version, you have up to 120 hours before needing to recharge it.

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Insanely good mouse, little expendy but honestly, insanely worth it, it'll pay for itself.

orchid belfry
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Yeah, I've been told similar things about Logitech, no negative feedback whatsoever.

tame oyster
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So I should go for Logitech. I'm thinking I should go razer for only a webcam.

torn elm
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i own a viper v2 pro, the only razer item ive been daily driving, honestly its been fantastic so far

prisma wasp
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12 gig they can do 1440. 8 gig? No chance in hell.

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Also they said they have an i3, and lol that's just not happening, period.

torn elm
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the 3060 ti specifically is an 8 gb card

prisma wasp
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Yes. Again, there are mutliple versions of the 3060ti in 12 gig.

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Either way, they're not pushing 1440p.

torn elm
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i am yet to ever see a single 12 gb 3060 ti. But for 3060, there are 12 gig models for sure

prisma wasp
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CPU is far too weak for such resolution, and given they have an i3, I doubt they have the good version, so they'll probably have the 8 gig card which means they don't meet VRAM requirements for 1440p either.

torn elm
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correct, 12 gb is reccomended

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unless they want to specifically run on the lowest possible settings

prisma wasp
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This, ladies and gentlemen, is why you don't buy i3's.

torn elm
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i3's are really not that bad

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idk why people dog on them so much, like, yknow theres other numbers after the i3 too right? like generations?

prisma wasp
#

They're fine for anything that isn't heavy operation. Browsing, youtube, emails, sure, go for an i3. Anything beyond that? Get an i5.

torn elm
prisma wasp
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i7 if you want higher end, i9 if you have the money to burn.

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i3's simply aren't it, especially if you're trying to push 1440p. 1440 is minimum mid-to-top end i5.

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Even more-so if you want good settings.

torn elm
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Nyx you do know the difference between this naming scheme right?

prisma wasp
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I'm quite aware. I3's exist because they don't have the silicon to match higher end components.

torn elm
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at 1440p youll need a good gpu to back it as much, cpu tends to matter less and less as the resolution increases

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you become very uh, gpu limited, but regardless of that, the 3060 ti is really going to struggle on 1440p

prisma wasp
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They're the bottom end for a reason; they simply don't perform to the requirements you'd need for 1440p. They're not pushing 1440 on an i3, that's just not happening.

The GPU's enough for 1080, if they want 1440 they're looking at a new GPU and especially a new CPU; either mid to high i5, or an i7.

torn elm
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a 13600k is an amazing cpu surprisignly lmao

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i5's across the board tend to be amazing, even the 12400f

prisma wasp
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It is, very good chip. I will never, ever willingly say people should be buying i3's however.

torn elm
#

bad expereince with em?

prisma wasp
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Consistently dogshit chips.

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Across 10 different generations they've had the absolute shittest performance, zero capability in lasting more than two years without running into severe issues with them being just bad chips.

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I'm pretty sure Intel have outright given up on making i3's, either because their build process has improved to not have such weak chips come out, or because they don't care to build such low end chips because it isn't cost effective anymore.

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At minimum, even for budget systems, I'll never recommend someone buy anything less than an i5.

torn elm
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they do in fact, have the least amount of active sectors lmao

prisma wasp
#

Even the lowest end i5's still demolish i3's in pretty much everything, and the price difference is so negligible it isn't worth not going for an i5.

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Granted, I also firmly believe people should spend good money on their first system, because spending to have it last for 5-8 years is far better than buying a new part every year or two, but alas.

torn elm
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well, yeah, the instruction level parallelism really does prove to be better

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also i5's tend to be the sweet spot for cache hierarchy for budget especially

prisma wasp
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I'd always recommend if people were on a budget, either the 12400 or the 12600K.

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Or whatever Ryzen equivelant there is, I don't really look at AMD.

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I guess it's the 5600X that'd be a 12600K equivelant.

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though the wraith is.. gross, to be nice.

torn elm
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yknow this reminds me of the whole 14th gen debacle, a majority of the problems came from little kids buying 14th gen i9's for 600 dollars and never bothering to open the bios and actually tune their cpu lmao

torn elm
torn elm
prisma wasp
prisma wasp
torn elm
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at that point just get a console lmao

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people spend 400 dollars on the 5800x3d when the 5700x3d costs like 200 and performs only 5 fps less

prisma wasp
torn elm
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im currently running a 14700k, honestly, top class, tho a 14900k obviously is king in that department

prisma wasp
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Meanwhile, everyone I know that bought a 14th gen chip already had a strong motherboard for it, and they had zero issues.

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I'm only on a 13700K atm, upgrading to an Ultra 265K at.. some point.

torn elm
prisma wasp
torn elm
prisma wasp
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Told a friend that wanted an i9 if they bought a cheap motherboard I'd pipe bomb them.

prisma wasp
torn elm
prisma wasp
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"I bought a 4090 and it runs like shit, this is why nvidia is a scam!" meanwhile, they're using it on a 3.0 PCI-E slot.

torn elm
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hahahahaha yeah oh my god dude ive seen that happen a lot

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theres this other cope chamber where people think that nvidia and intel have bad business practices but amd is like a godsend for some reason

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as if AMD literally didnt make the 7000 series gpus (RDNA4) suicidal to begin with

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and as if the 9000 series cpus arent just repackaged 7800x3ds

prisma wasp
#

Genuinely the people that parrot "AMD is perfect in every way!" are the people I cannot stand the most.

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Was talking to someone about Intel's B580 cards, and how they were fantastic options for budget, and some AMD fanboy turned up saying "Nah fuck that buy a Radeon card" based on nothing other than "AMD is better."

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I don't hate AMD, they make solid shit and competition is good, but my god does that company have the literal worst fans.

torn elm
#

im in a lot of tech servers, and i have to deal with so much AMD cope honestly, its like getting a voluntary lobotomy

prisma wasp
#

There's no nuance to comparing things, it's just "amd better" and it's fuckin irritating.

torn elm
prisma wasp
#

Anyway, I'ma stop bitching about AMD and actually go do something with my afternoon. Have a great whatever time it is for you!

torn elm
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You have a good day too, haven’t had a good AMD bitch sesh in a while

torn elm
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exactly lmao, its a very impressive chip but gamers dont like it because "new gen needs moar fps"

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though, the 15th gen i9 has the best cinebench score ive ever seen out of a consumer gpu, derbauer made a video delidding the 15th gen and it got like 50k in cinebench or something stupidly high like that

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thats a shame, i thought windows liked intel

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regardless tho, new tech, more efficient, im all for it

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hmmmm, i suppose so

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yeah they've managed to make it easy for OS devs and game devs with their architecture, and zen5c does also perform better than intels E cores

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and with slightly less L3 cache

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nono you're right, and you were clear i was just adding to what you were saying

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yep

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i still do like the big.LITTLE design if im being honest tho, i dont know if its the fact that i like having larger execution units, or the better branch prediction, or if im just biased. or maybe a little bit of everything

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well, also cause of AVX-512 support

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basically its just Vector Processing for aiding in video editing, encoding, and AI

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yeah exactly lmao

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yknow its actually a pleasant surprise that people in a DOOM tech channel are more well versed than actual tech servers

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refreshing to talk about actual tech instead of bullshit video games all the time

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yeah fr lmao

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unfortunately, the community has changed

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and for the worse, now all they do is read off of techpowerup and call it a day

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whatever happened to looking at pin blueprints

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i aint saying its bad, im just saying they skim the website and just regurgitate what they read, not what they understand

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it definitely costs a few hours of sleep and a lot of digging to find pinouts for stuff thats even a couple years old

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oh yeah framework

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that shit linus keeps trying to promote lmao, jesus christ hahaa. Poser central

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fr, have you seen their latest pc? all the marketing is about it being a 3000 dollar mini pc with 4060 performance but "HEY ITS AN APU SO YOU GOTTA BUY IT" and all the customizaiton is basically sticking magnets to the case

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thats it

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basically just Apple in disguise

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atleast apple doesnt shy away from forcing you into their ecosystem

#

yeah true, having a pinout loses its value if its about some hyper niche connector that you might aswell build on your own

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its good for repairs, but not when those repairs are braindead

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well i wasnt gonna spend the downpayment of my car on this shitass pc, but NOW, that makes it worth it

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like, how much do they think they're going to get away with on this

#

similar scenario with intel 14th gen (idk how i looped back to this topic but here we are), like when they were catching shit because of poor default LLC settings and thermal saturation in the silicon substrate, literally everyone was dogging on them even though the microcode Tau was fixed a few months later

but when AMD's RDNA4 architecture has MCM desings that lead to DVS issues and high stall cycles, and not to mention the suicidal nature of Infinity Fabric's insanely high voltage requirement. Nobody bats an eye.

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what a disaster

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well, thats definitely a silver lining, im thinking of buying either a zenbook or a zephyrus G16 for my parents, beacuse they could care less about any of this copius shit. They care about peripherals, including an OLED display, cool temps, long battery life and good speakers

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yeah RDNA4 is really weird, despite it being a monolithic design, the core clusters are huge, so are the SEC's. So theres a lot of intra - GPu scheduling issues

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oh yeah the Acer 185h, i have a buddy that owns one too, no issues so far

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yeah its just that intra - die IF causes a lot of VRM strain, and also has to run at higher clocks to counter the intra die latency issues. Plus the cheaper RDNA4 manufacturers use really crappy polycaps, instead of MLCC's like high end Asus and Galax gpus do

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oh holy shit i thought you were joking, i forgot that Vega had the exact same compute units as the 9700xt

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hahaha holy shit

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if your talking about the 9070xt, i think thats because for some reason they dont have proper power gating yet, and cause it relies on GDDR6 more than infinity cache

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wtf lmao, is he legally allowed on planes

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ah okay

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oh... hmmmmm, i mean in theory you could just cut a hole through the bottom.. and through the pcb (cough cough)

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oh you're going pure workstation huh?

hasty sierra
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They’re apparently removing them

torn elm
#

me when im going to make an educated purchase but linus tech tips/Jayztwocents/Gamers Nexus/Zach Tech Surf/Meta Pc's/ Marques Brownlee tells me to follow the newest hypetrain

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yeah the 10750h is a good laptop

torn elm
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Yeaaa

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I don’t, i have to still deal with people regurgitating their babble whenever I have to help repair something or reccomend hardware

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Phawx eh? I’ll give him a look, the only competent guys I’ve seen are derbauer and hardware busters so far

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Interesting interesting

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Hey thanks man, you’re fun to talk to aswell. I’m in pchelphub mainly. And the other ones are just tiny cope chambers I go to sometimes

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I don’t think I’ve had an indepth conversation like this in legit months

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Really? It’s got 100k members

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Oh god buildapc, fuck that place with a passion

#

Yeah they are, I had some “tech advisor” tell me that some bullshit Chinese SSD was the same as a 990 pro Becuase of the read and writes. Despite the IOPS being literally 1/4 of the 990 pro

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Jeez, good decision man, you can get lucky occasionally. I was friends with a chip architect I met there. He’s a nice guy, knows a lot

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Ooooof, you should defo look into getting an sn580 blue if your on a budget in the future, it’s sturdy, and it’s got good firmware

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Ah I see, for mobile storage hmm? I’ve been looking into monitors as of recent, OLED is actually quite fun to look into

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Hydrocarbon semiconductors are really really fuckin cool

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Really? It only costs 50 bucks yknow

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Really? You think so?

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I mean I won’t disagree they’ve kind of devolved it into just a marketing term but really?

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Honestly I personally don’t care about the power consumption at all lmao. I installed solar in my house when solar was dirt cheap and now it’s basically free electricity

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The pixel response time and ghosting is literally perfect tho.

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Cause it’s individually lit and uses a current carrying pure electron signaling instead of just yknow, liquid crystals

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Yeah it’s definitely a bit wonky tho, your right, that’s why there’s that huge fuckass heatsink on the back of the panel lmao

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Oh yeah, it’s as much as a low end cpu

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What?…. Oh wait I’m thinking of SLI voltages haha

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With V sync or just normal fps capping?

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Very solid actually

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Thank Christ, v sync latency is atrocious

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Hmmm yeah, a 12900k would be a great upgrade

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Yeah, well, aren’t most games single thread tho?

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Oh I just said 12900k so you don’t have to change motherboards

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Same, they stretch the crap out of the prices where I live

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Oh yeah sorry, I forgor

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Yeah, wouldn’t be worth it compared to a 13600k or an i5 15th gen. I am so hyped for 16 gen

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i think theyll boost the performance off the 15th gen and use it as a good stable base with low power draw

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of course, i mean in terms of raw fps tho

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honestly im not sure how to feel if intel gets rid of the dedicated e core, i do like big.LITTLE architecture

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if they could use the stable and efficient power delivery of 15th gen with high fps i think i could start reccomending 16th gen to new builders again

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yeah? you think so?

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hmmm true, thats true, plus asus has this funny thing called advanced OC profile, where it boosts your p cores alongside your e cores in tasks and games and burns the fuck out of your chip

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yeah man see you, it was really nice talking to you, refreshing. Have a good lecture!

river night
#

Question: upgrading from RTX 3060 12GB to RTX 4060 ti 16GB worth it?

torn elm
tame oyster
#

Hey wat should I buy to recharge a Xbox series x controller and PS5 controller

torn elm
#

Just use a standard type - c cable

tame oyster
#

@torn elm so I should never buy battery packs

gritty oak
#

It fits inside the original thing too so it doesn't stick out or look bulky, I just have to plug in my controller and it charges the battery itself. Worth the $20

tame oyster
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@gritty oak wat kind of battery charger is it u have an image

gritty oak
torn elm
tame oyster
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@torn elm I want to buy a good charger that will last long either to charge battery packs or controller. Also to charge Series X controller and if it can charge Xbox Series X Wireless Controller.

torn elm
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Ah, well idk about those specifically mate, I’m sorry

quaint copper
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i have enough moneh for 4060, shall i swap my 1060 for it or save for 4090 lol (i have a ryzen 7 2700x)

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so does the 4060 does good performance with a ryzen 7 2700x?

torn elm
#

if you do have the budget for a 4090, you should get a 9800x3d and a 4070 ti or something, instead of getting a 4090

quaint copper
torn elm
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cpu low end

quaint copper
#

Oh

stuck cobalt
#

@orchid holly

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what gpu do you have

boreal dagger
#

Yeah I do think that's pretty odd

orchid holly
#

regular cpu dips that align with my whole pc slowing down
anyway enough info time for more info

orchid holly
stuck cobalt
#

what are all your pc specs

boreal dagger
stuck cobalt
#

because it could be a overheating or a general power issue

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or your pc aint powerful enough

orchid holly
hasty sierra
stuck cobalt
hasty sierra
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though, usually flucuations in the PSU lead to whole system shutdowns

boreal dagger
#

Maybe it's time to upgrade? Get a better power supply?

stuck cobalt
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how many fans do you have?

orchid holly
boreal dagger
#

Oh jeez

stuck cobalt
orchid holly
#

majority of things are non negotiable

boreal dagger
#

Maybe replace the battery?

hasty sierra
#

[insert my rant on why laptops are bad]

stuck cobalt
#

yea thats why

orchid holly
#

the graphics card cannot be changed, nor the cpu

orchid holly
stuck cobalt
#

not only are you using a 2060 but its the mobile version

boreal dagger
#

Laptops are useful imo

orchid holly
stuck cobalt
#

yea your laptop likely just aint powerful enough for DOOM

orchid holly
#

i've ran doom eternal on HIGHER graphics settings just fine

stuck cobalt
boreal dagger
#

Peculiar.

orchid holly
#

it works
and it WORKED on my first playthrough
its just started doing this recently

stuck cobalt
#

very strange

orchid holly
#

in fact on my first playthrough i had only 8 gb ram and it still didnt do this

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i only recently upgraded to 32 (which was massively fucking needed)

stuck cobalt
#

does it only do it with DOOM 2016 now or has it started with all games

boreal dagger
#

Curiouser and curiouser bobthinking

orchid holly
stuck cobalt
#

and are you attempting to run this game off an external drive?

orchid holly
boreal dagger
#

Odd

stuck cobalt
#

if youre running off an external hdd or even external sdd thats why

orchid holly
#

i'm not

stuck cobalt
#

this is a strange situation

boreal dagger
#

Odder and odder, curiouser and curiouser, how very interesting

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I'll ask around in some circles of mine

stuck cobalt
#

how much storage do you have left?

orchid holly
#

i'm so confused and frustrated because i wanted to 100% the game on ultraviolence but this is

orchid holly
stuck cobalt
#

tbh im a little lost here if everything else runs fine but DOOM im not sure

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maybe its just DOOM id say try completely removing it and re downloading it

orchid holly
#

i thought maybe it might be a setting i turned on but i'm really not sure

boreal dagger
#

It might be a file thing? Maybe verify file integrity

orchid holly
#

and i'm still so confused by the cpu thing

#

i think it's like
for some reason it goes to only using 11% when it needs to be using 50% in that moment
but the question is WHY

boreal dagger
#

That is very odd

stuck cobalt
#

and this only happens with DOOM 2016 not a single other thing?

boreal dagger
#

I'm gonna say restart the puter to see if that works 💀

orchid holly
#

and wait i shouldve mentioned this sooner
this started happening after an extended play session

stuck cobalt
boreal dagger
#

Hm

orchid holly
#

fully legit steam download

stuck cobalt
#

you said you have 32gb of ram

boreal dagger
#

One mate of mine suggested a driver issue

orchid holly
#

yet only now the issue is beginning to show up

boreal dagger
#

When was the last time you've updated them?

orchid holly
boreal dagger
#

Maybe check that out 😭

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It might be a cooling thing too

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When was the last time you cleaned out your laptop?

orchid holly
#

one moment
it was on the day we upgraded the RAM

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around feb 26th
possibly the 27th

boreal dagger
#

Maybe check if the fans are clogged up, there's a possibility that there's something there

orchid holly
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if that were the case i'd assume it'd happen on something that was more intensive than 2016 like helldivers 2
but it wasn't

boreal dagger
#

It might be a recent thing, looking at some forums it's kinda just telling me that there's a form of thermal throttling going on

orchid holly
#

the last time i played hd2 was yesterday and this issue has been happening since before then

dusk plume
#

have u tried unplugging it and plugging it back in?

tame oyster
#

Hey any gaming desks I recommend that can support PC and consoles, cable management, follow by 2 monitors, similar to Magnus pro

torn elm
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are you looking for a standing desk?

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you can try a mojo desk

tame oyster
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A desk that gamers use. But it has support PC, consoles, monitors, cable management

torn elm
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well, if im being honest with you any standing desk with cable management thats sturdy is a "gaming" desk

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tho why not just go for the magnus pro

gritty oak
#

When I put my monitor on 1440p the screen shrinks, how can I fix this? 2160p works fine I'm really confused

tame oyster
#

@torn elm u know wat and I may regrett his but I'm gonna wait out for Xbox 2027 console. Because if I buy the series x and the new Xbox is better with backward compatibility, more memory...well 😩

torn elm
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id say run DLSS or FSR to have the same performance but with similar sharpness

torn elm
tame oyster
#

@torn elm I prefer PC and console because I want to play old games from PS2 and PS3 like Ratchet & Clank Series, Sly Cooper, Call of Duty Series

torn elm
#

Which one do you prefer more? Pc or console?

tame oyster
#

@torn elm both

torn elm
#

Which one do you prefer more

shell fulcrum
#

is rx7700tx gonna be able to run doom tda?

quaint copper
#

Idk probably

prisma wasp
tame oyster
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@torn elm I prefer console more but the reason I want to try PC is because I want to buy games on steam and perhaps Xbox game pass and PlayStation

gritty oak
#

Is a faster hdmi cord a good investment? Like a display port cord?

dusk plume
#

100%

prisma wasp
tame oyster
#

Isn't a display port cord better than HDMI for gaming

prisma wasp
#

If you have the port on the monitor. You cannot use DP in a HDMI port, they are two different standards.

torn elm
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very comfortably

torn elm
shell fulcrum
# torn elm yes

Ty i was wondering if it could because of ray tracing needed for tda

torn elm
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I don’t think Ray tracing will be an absolutely mandatory factor, however even if it is, your GPU is already above the requirements so

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You don’t gotta worry

tame oyster
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Don't know

torn elm
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has it been?

#

thas gonna be a bit of a pain in the ass for amd users, especially considering their mesh shaders and ray accelerators arent very developed

torn elm
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oh wow interesting

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yeah it might be because of mesh shaders and BHV acceleration

torn elm
#

The ray accelerators are pretty basic

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So they’ll work but just, not great

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Bruh don’t delete your message I look schizo now

torn elm
#

yeahhh

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all good

gritty oak
#

Can someone recommend me a cheap display port cable? I dont trust all these random ones on Amazon

prisma wasp
#

Does your graphics card and monitor have a display port port?

gritty oak
#

My pc does so I'm assuming my graphics card does, and my monitor does too

prisma wasp
#

You need to be certain, it has a very distinct connector.

gritty oak
prisma wasp
#

Id recommend checking your graphics card ports to see if you actually have the ports available to you.

gritty oak
#

It's has both

prisma wasp
#

Does the monitor?

gritty oak
#

I just dont know if it's connected to the graphics card or motherboard

#

Yes the monitor does

prisma wasp
#

It should be connected to the graphics card regardless.

#

Anything by alogic is good.

gritty oak
#

It's a rebuilt, Alienware Aurora x16, with a 4060ti

gritty oak
prisma wasp
#

My condolences.

gritty oak
#

Condolences? Why sympathy? I'm not trying to be rude im just really confused

prisma wasp
#

Alienware has a notoriously abysmal track record.

gritty oak
#

Oh, well I've been using Alienware for like 5 years and haven't had any real issues that weren't my fault. I like the brand even though they dont have great support. It's me and my sisters favorite because we love aliens

prisma wasp
#

If it works, it works, but i cannot in good conscience support it.

torn elm
#

@gritty oak the real problem nowadays with Alienware in terms of desktop pcs is that it’s overpriced, however if you already own it you have nothing to worry about. Just be careful about your next purchase of pc, hopefully it’s a custom built

torn elm
gritty oak
#

Acer XZ270 X

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I want to use it on 1440p but it won't let me, it shrinks the screen and I can't find a way to fix it

#

I'm stuck with 1080p and 2160p

torn elm
#

Wait the monitor that you told me is listed as a 1080p

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Not a 4k

gritty oak
#

Huh

#

Okay im confused hold up,

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No you're right

#

Wtf im so confused what did I buy lmao

#

When I first used it, like first time out of the box and hooked up it was on 2160p, I thought it was 4k

slate brook
#

💀

gritty oak
#

I'm new to this idk what im doing 😭

slate brook
#

yea well so am I

#

I'm saving for a pc

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right now

gritty oak
#

Don't make my mistakes

slate brook
#

I already know what monitor t get

#

only thing Ion know is what gpu to get

#

I'll just see what I should get then

gritty oak
#

I got my monitor before my pc not doing any real research

#

I was a Lil stupid

torn elm
#

You should see your monitor model

torn elm
slate brook
torn elm
#

4k???

slate brook
#

for the whole thing

slate brook
torn elm
#

Oh you mean, monitor included and peripherals got you

slate brook
#

ye

torn elm
#

When do you think you’ll save enough?

slate brook
#

a year from now I'll have the money, I'm in college and I have a new laptop so

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I also do not care what it looks like, I don't want rgb or anything

torn elm
#

Oh, yeah dude, don’t worry about the tech specs right now at all, think about this stuff 2 weeks before actually buying it

#

Prices change all the time, and new models come out. No point in racking your brain over it

slate brook
#

ye and I got friends that know more about it

#

also do I need a aio for 9800x3d

torn elm
#

No you don’t, but it would look cool and keep your cpu cool

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But in a year you probably won’t even be thinking about the 9800x3D

slate brook
torn elm
#

It would still be a good cpu yes

slate brook
#

or do u mean the price

torn elm
#

I mean performance, till a few months ago the 7800x3D was the “best” gaming cpu

slate brook
#

yeah but I'm not going to get the next best one, or maybe I will

torn elm
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Who knows dude lmao, just wait till you have everything saved up, then we talk

#

I can make you a 4k euro list rn but it would be a waste

slate brook
#

ye and I have about the idea

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on what to get

torn elm
#

I assume it’s just for gaming right?

slate brook
#

I also were thinking that I'd get a 2k oled monitor, but after seeing the prices I was like hell nah

#

I have a 8K oled tv for wathching stuff

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and I got a laptop for other stuff

torn elm
#

Honestly it’s worth it, OLED 2k gaming monitors are actually perfect

#

I ordered one for myself, it should get here in a few days

slate brook
torn elm
#

They have 0 smearing or ghosting, 240hz and actually feel snappier than a 360 hz IPs or VA…also it’s OLED

torn elm
slate brook
slate brook
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hol up I'll check real quick on jimms what the prices here are

torn elm
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Sure

slate brook
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ok I did find one thats 800 so umm The Good

torn elm
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Yeah that’s a good price

slate brook
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honestlly now I'm reconsidering oled

torn elm
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Ideally

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2500 : PC
800 : Monitor
200 : keyboard and mouse
500 : audio system

slate brook
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audio systems?

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also I gotta use wi-fi so theres a thing

torn elm
torn elm
slate brook
torn elm
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Like what things

slate brook
slate brook
torn elm
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Then use Ethernet no?

slate brook
torn elm
torn elm
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Even the cheapest ones support upto 500 mbps

slate brook
slate brook
torn elm
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If that’s the goal then, you should spend the money on an amazing pair of 500 dollar headphones

torn elm
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I want to get a dac and amp for my own pair of headphones, I’ve heard it’s legit like buying a whole new pair of headphones

slate brook
torn elm
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That’s alright

torn elm
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Yup

slate brook
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I litrelly get a free gym in this home complex (maybe not the right word) and my parents can cook really well plus 8k tv

torn elm
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Niiice nice

slate brook
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and my parents wanna move at some point so I might just keep on living here then

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home is next to everything

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best home fr fr

torn elm
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Wow that sounds amazing

slate brook
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it is, Finland best place (the rent is though like above 300)

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but I mean the perks

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and it's in a nice and calme place

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but maybe I should not "brag" more about my life, people might get a bit angry, dunno though u also mihgt not want to hear me speaking about it more

orchid holly
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me laying an external keyboard over my laptops built in one

boreal dagger
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Ahh

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Makes sense 😭

gritty oak
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Okay so my monitor somehow just fixed itself, I am now gaming 2160p with 120 fps. It just... fixed itself? Idk what I did lol

tame oyster
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For dark ages I plan to play ultra 4k and I want to use GeForce Nvidia probably ROG 5080. But I don't know wat parts I will need when I build my own PC that goes with Geforce, got any idea

torn elm
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What is your budget?

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And when will you buy the parts?

tame oyster
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@torn elm probably not like in 2 more years. Because I plan to save money on buying the new Xbox console in 2027 but it depends on wat specs it has.

torn elm
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okay....so why are you planning 2 years in advance?

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prices will be completely differnet in 2 years

tame oyster
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@torn elm I want to know wat to expect in the future like wat PC parts, gaming monitors, console, will come out.

prisma wasp
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It's really not worth trying to plan two years in advance.

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We don't know what's coming out other than what we're told is on the table. We can make estimations, but it's never going to be enough to actually plan around.

tame oyster
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@prisma wasp well first I need to save money. I posted the image of dark ages requirements and I plan on getting ultra 4k requirements

prisma wasp
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That's fine, but like I said, it's not worth planning two years in advance because we don't know what'll be available in two years.

torn elm
tame oyster
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@torn elm ok so wat should I think about

torn elm
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nothing, make money first

tame oyster
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@torn elm yeah I know that, I wish there was a site as what PC parts r compatible with one another whether they r expensive or cost less

prisma wasp
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There is, pcpartpicker.

torn elm
tame oyster
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@prisma wasp hmm is a really helpful site for when u want to check PC parts that r compatible especially when new parts come out

prisma wasp
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Yes, it's designed to be that way.

torn elm
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My guy what’s with the “.” 😭

prisma wasp
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?

torn elm
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the period at the end of every sentence

prisma wasp
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That's.. just how I type?

prisma wasp
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Also, don't refer to me as "my guy", or anything masc for that matter, thanks.

clear spoke
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Does anyone in here experience any problems about fps and vsync?

torn elm
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Well, vsync increases input lag so

torn elm
tame oyster
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I'm seeing in gaming monitors it has USB port gen 1 type a, b, c. Monitors have 2 out of 3, which is important to have.

torn elm
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Why are you thinking so much about this stuff so much in advance

tame oyster
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Really?

gritty oak
hasty sierra
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The whole reason screen tearing happens is because the GPU is pushing more frames than the monitor can actually display

gritty oak
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That makes a lot of sense, thank you

hasty sierra
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I personally start at my monitor’s refresh rate and slowly lower it if absolutely needed

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Keyword slowly

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No reason to lower your max FPS more than you need to

gritty oak
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Ive been exploring the GeForce optimization thingy and It's messed up a lot of my stuff

hasty sierra
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I do suggest just optimizing stuff yourself tbh

gritty oak
gritty oak
hasty sierra
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Yeah, all of those “optimizers” rarely work

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All you can do is just do trial and error

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Like I found out borderless windowed usually gives me more FPS on my rig for some reason

gritty oak
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I dont remember what game it was but it wouldn't let me go full screen for some reason and I wonder if that's why

prisma wasp
torn elm
sick marsh
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cause thats really all i need

torn elm
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maybe with DLSS but i dont think so

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not natively

sick marsh
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what card would you recommend getting for this game

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thats a good upgrade from a 3060 ti

torn elm
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youll be able to get 60+ fps with a 3060 ti at 1440p with DLSS

sick marsh
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thank you

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dlss saved me in doom eternal, too. atleast nvidia is alright when it comes to that stuff

torn elm
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Nvidia is pretty good in general

torn elm
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DLSS is dope, especially the newer verssions

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Tho @sick marsh before you spend 70
Bucks on doom the dark ages, I’d reccomend you get a cpu upgrade first

sick marsh
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yup im working on that rn matter of fact

torn elm
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Oh awesome

sick marsh
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probably gonna get an i5 or i7

torn elm
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If you can save up 130 bucks I’d say go i5 10th gen

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10600k is a pretty good cpu for the budget

fiery yarrow
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This is old tech but

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Should I get doom for it :3

torn elm
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yes bro

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i love old tech this is dope

slate brook
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holy

torn elm
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My guy…

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You gotta understand that AMD GPUs don’t have well made ray tracing cores or good A.I. cores

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Ray tracing is very unstable on AMD

sterile slate
torn elm
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Yep…

clear spoke
# torn elm Well, vsync increases input lag so

Who gives a damn in a singleplayer, I've had no issue playing this game at 144hz and then later somehow without me touching any setting, game locked itself to 60fps even tho with vsync enabled both in game and in the control panel

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Can someone help me plz

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I'm locked to 60 fps literally

torn elm
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very fast paced game, you should give a damn lmao

torn elm
torn elm
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and nvidia control panel?

clear spoke
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I have like 80 games, none of them have any issues with Gsync except DOOM and yes it is turned on on the panel

torn elm
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do you have a g sync capable monitor?

clear spoke
torn elm
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then use VRR

clear spoke
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I stopped playing since 2023 cuz of this, and now back to it with the same issue

torn elm
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why are you using v sync, v sync is poopy

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use g sync with VRR

clear spoke
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Whether turned on or off, it is still 60 even changed from OpenGL to Vulkan with the same issues

clear spoke
torn elm
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doom eternal right?

torn elm
clear spoke
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Literally in the game rn with this shit issue

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When I started at first, it was 144 fps literally locked then 60 out of all sudden

torn elm
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go to C:\Users\YourUsername\Saved Games\id Software\DOOM\base

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open Doomconfig.cfg

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find this, and if its missing then add it

seta r_maxfps "144"

clear spoke
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It's on the D drive but ok

clear spoke
torn elm
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just copy and paste it in the cfg file

clear spoke
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I opened it via Notepad

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The only command with r is r_swapInterval "0"

torn elm
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yeah just copy and paste what i sent

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seta r_maxfps "144"

clear spoke
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alr

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@torn elmThat didn't help at all, matter of fact the command clears itself after launching the game

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I did copy paste it right below the interval command

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And it's just gone after playing the game, made sure it save changes of course

torn elm
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did you press control + s

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okay, idk then lmao just verify the game files

clear spoke
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I see there's an advanced option to choose the frame lock

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A random post on Steam forums, maybe that's the issue but even then it's just dumb af

clear spoke
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I did check advanced tf

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Lemme make sure, still verifying files

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THIS OPTION DOESN"T EXIST FOR ME AT ALLL

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IT's like I'm running a cracked version of DOOM, HUUUH

torn elm
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jesus christ lmao

clear spoke
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NVM the max fps is a beta thing for DOOm, they removed it. so now nothing works gg

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ANYONE ELSE CAN HELP ME?

clear spoke
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@drifting blade@torn elm

torn elm
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what

drifting blade
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Yes I am waiting for you to report back

clear spoke
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ITS FIXED

torn elm
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great

drifting blade
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What did the trick

torn elm
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probably the read only

clear spoke
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IT FIXED ITSELF TF HOLD UP, the gpu usage was 20% not it's 50-60%

torn elm
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good

drifting blade
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The classic trick of just waiting it out

clear spoke
torn elm
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higher the gpu usage the better

clear spoke
drifting blade
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Feels like rotating a USB stick until it goes in or plugging it in and out

torn elm
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just turn on g sync, and VRR

clear spoke
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it's actually off and I'm getting 143

torn elm
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yucky gross V sync

drifting blade
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What's wrong with V-sync

torn elm
clear spoke
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What's the reason I'm getting 9 fps on the menu ONLY when I move the cursor HUHH

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Fixed a problem, new one appeared

torn elm
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unsure

clear spoke
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Wtf is this, was it a joke that people actually said doom is the most optimized game on pc

torn elm
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oh wait it could be that you have v sync enabled in nvidia control panel

torn elm
clear spoke
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The irony

torn elm
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good

clear spoke
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so? what's causing this abomination

torn elm
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you might also have v sync enabled

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in this panel make sure to check global settings so v sync isnt on

drifting blade
torn elm
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no it still has latency, i ran a lot of testing, even on a 60hz you should leave the fps uncapped unless your using a controller or getting a TON of screen tearing

clear spoke
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Wow man

drifting blade
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I'm on a 60hz and screen tearing was a crazy issue for me. Been fine with v-sync on ever since

clear spoke
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Game froze on me, had to force restart the whole pc, couldn't even alt f4, so optimized

torn elm
drifting blade
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What are the benefits to g-sync over v-sync?

clear spoke
drifting blade
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Did you set the text file to read only

torn elm
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less latency, less screen tearing

torn elm
drifting blade
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If I have none of either is the upgrade still worth it or would it bring identical results

clear spoke
drifting blade
clear spoke
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It's notepad

drifting blade
drifting blade
drifting blade
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It prevents anything from changing the file contents. Right click it, go to properties, should be there along the bottom

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By it I mean the file

clear spoke
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I did, relaunching the game, also frame still drops to 7 and gpu usage all the way down when cursor moves in menu

torn elm
torn elm
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same thing lmao

drifting blade
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Also keep in mind that if you set it to read only you'll need to uncheck read only to change game settings

clear spoke
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Different game not the same thing

drifting blade
torn elm
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sure

drifting blade
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@clear spoke You did add that r_maxfps thing before making it read only right?

clear spoke
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Nothing changed set it up to read only

clear spoke
drifting blade
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Yes

clear spoke
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I did

drifting blade
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I got no idea then

clear spoke
drifting blade
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Try putting it into the launch commands maybe?

clear spoke
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Why do I have to do all of this to be able to play the game that is so claimed "optimized"

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I don't have time for this, fuck Bethesda, sorry for wasting your time gbye

drifting blade
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High framerate monitors weren't the norm at the time

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id made the game not Bethesda

torn elm
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This dude complains a lot

drifting blade
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Oh well

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Thanks for that g sync tip again, see you around

torn elm
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all good, you too

fierce bloom
#

Hi all, the first time launched doom, and here in the menu freezes every second, other games work without problems, hint who knows, I would be grateful

sudden crest
#

hey anyone know why i loose all momentum ass soon as i hit the edge of a platform? im on pc and my fps is like 200+

potent mica
shrewd compass
#

i just have an overall question about both Doom 2016 and eternal wtf with the QA I just started playing eternal and now I cant use the tab button I have alt tab back in i have alt entered back into the game no. If this is how the game is going to be I am just not going to play it I dont get game companys who leave so many glitches in a game to this day. Doom 2016 I have experienced a plethora of bugs, rail glitch which flings me at mach 2, falling through geometry, enemies not spawning and others. Why do they leave these glitches in the game to this day and anyone know solution to tab button in doom eternel

gritty oak
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Go to the main menu and it should fix it

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It's happened to me twice and all I had to do was go to the main menu and then load back into whatever I was playing

sudden crest
sudden crest
gritty oak
#

Cable management sucks

fiery lichen
#

I'm learning doom builder X cuz I'm on dinosaur hardware can anyone give any tips?

hasty sierra
#

but in general, just search up mapping tips

fiery lichen
#

K thnks

bronze bone
#

So, it seems like the Doom collection pack won't work anymore. It said that the corrupt disk was dosbox, but that file doesn't exist anymore.

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Actually, never mind. Deleting the folder outright fixed the issue.

sudden crest
prisma wasp
vast cedar
sudden crest
vast cedar
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alr we'll see then ig

opal mulch
undone shadow
alpine peak
#

I have absolutely NO idea of programming or game developing so please don't bully me for this question

I saw that the new doom game is going to require RTX cabaple GPUs, my question is, is it possible to mod the game to make it so that it runs on non-rtx GPUs? I know it hasn't even released yet, but maybe someone actually did something like that with other game in the past?

prisma wasp
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It is not, a lot of their systems are confirmed to require raytracing.

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Modding the game to remove raytracing would require rebuilding the game from the ground up.

tiny lily
#

minecraft has raytracing mods because it basically has source-code level editing capability

empty patrol
#

yall whats a good budget pc for around 600 dollars that can run Destiny 2 at 1080p 60+ fps? first pc build and i dont know what im doing when it comes to picking parts, DM if you wanna takj

torn elm
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Sure

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@empty patrol your DMs are closed btw

sick marsh
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imo dlss just has no flaws i literally cannot see a difference between using with or without

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all games should just have it built in

torn elm
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Yup lmao

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Free fps

hasty sierra
#

Quality does take a major hit

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Higher setting also can be finicky. In some games it’s fine, in others it gives a negligible FPS boost

tardy moth
#

Hello, can someone help me?

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doom 2016 started in 640p for some reason, so i went to settings and changed it to my normal aspect. Then the game screen is now only a few pixels big on he top left corner of my screen and i can not see anything. I hear the music, i can hear myself going through the menu but i only see the desktop and a black patch in the corner. I verified game files, i reinstalled the game, didnt work. Any suggestions?

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if someone helped me go through the menu blind by showing me what is where maybe that could help

neon stag
#

Does anyone has issues when playing Doom Eternal on Linux (Mint 22) ?
My game run at 30-40 FPS, instead of an average 130-150 FPS on Windows
An i have a very weird and stupid bug, where the mouse click is instantaneous, which basically means that i can't remap the keys

torn elm
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on doom eternal its barely noticable, same with cyberpunk, especially with the transformer model

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other games however, very noticable

torn elm
serene palm
neon stag
#

And on ProtonDB, Doom Eternal is classified "Gold"
So normally, it should run well

vagrant carbon
#

am i cooked for dark ages? i really want the collectors edition but im afraid my 8gb vram laptop wont cut it. indiana jones runs amazing with textures and shadows on low/med tho

prisma wasp
#

Your CPU is only 2 cores short; you may be able to run the game 1080p/60, but it's a hard maybe. 8 cores may be a hard requirement. The GPU is sufficient.

vagrant carbon
#

i've seen that they state 8 core zen 2 as minimum. my cpu is zen 4. could that help a bit? i've seen benchmark videos where my cpu is comparable to the desktop version, the 8 core ryzen 5 7600

prisma wasp
#

It may be comparable, but the core count may be a hard requirement. Performance equal to an 8 core doesn't mean it's gonna run the game, unfortunately.

It's gonna be a maybe on whether you can run the game.

vagrant carbon
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oh, right, gotchu

prisma wasp
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If it works, hell yeah, if it doesn't, unfortunately there's no real solution aside from a new laptop with an 8 core CPU.

vagrant carbon
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well, i might just get it for the series s at this point. i also have a series s that i got before this laptop, at that time i had a really weak 1650 laptop that couldnt run anything properly. i might just go back to xbox at this point

prisma wasp
#

I'd say keep an eye on things and maybe wait a while until after release, that way you can see if people are able to run it on 6-core CPU's.

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Though Series S is definitely an option, at least with that it's essentially plug and play.

vagrant carbon
#

i have also seen that dark ages has play anywhere feature on xbox store, for example i can play it on both xbox/pc if i own the license on one of them

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so if i decide that i really want the collectors edition i could just go for the xbox version

prisma wasp
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I'd imagine so, Microsofts been pretty good with that.

vagrant carbon
#

i really wonder how they are going to scale this game for the series s. indy runs 60 on series s, im curious if this is gonna be the case too

prisma wasp
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I imagine they'd have made strides in having it run at 60, id are generally pretty good at optimising their games.