speedrunning

[onyx turtle]

And I did 48 sec too on E2M1, is it good?

On console, ultra violence

[thorn cape]

https://youtu.be/-K5QAXJa8OI

[onyx turtle]

Thanks

Bruh this is exactly my route 😂 but I always messing up the end

Btw I know it's cringe but can somebody help me, what channels does speedrun.com could use for proof? I did 7 sec in DOOM II MAP1 and on console, that is the first place, but I can't upload youtube videos for God knows why

[thorn cape]

7 seconds is 1st place? 🤔

What SRC leaderboards are you using

I assume the unity port page

WR on doom ii map01 on unity (UV) is 5.23 or something

[onyx turtle]

Xbox and I using speedrun.com, as I said

On xbox it's 7 sec

Bruh as I see, only 3 people submitted a run 😅

7 seconds is a world record only on xbox

[thorn cape]

oh I'm not sure

I run PC and use the DSDA, as most runners use

https://youtu.be/9OMle8q2zes

[vapid cloud]

@thorn cape

Just compiled the launcher for windows

It looks like shit, but tomorrow ill post it

[thorn cape]

sick

Lol it does look clunky

But its good enough 🙂

Definitely will be 1000x better than powershell

would rather have functionality over looks

[vapid cloud]

ill polish it up before posting

[thorn cape]

Aight

[atomic ridge]

The end part is so aggravated

[vocal basin]

[stiff turret]

Windows launcher pogur

[onyx turtle]

Yes like I can't even go down, but I'll go sleep now

Idk what's the time at y'all but it's 2 in the morning at me 😂 so good night guys

[atomic ridge]

Gn

[pseudo belfry]

aha i have wiggled my fat ass into the gap on underhalls

wrong channel

well ig not technacly

[loud arch]

Nice job

[stiff turret]

Pog

[wispy hawk]

me :attempting to speedrun
zombie man: don't mind me I'm just gonna block your path regardless of where you turn

[atomic ridge]

It's always fun to successfully do it

It's like fitting your dick inna cherrio tho

[golden stream]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=93xYWtFgldA

just dimensions map 31, nothin special

[vapid cloud]

This map is just ez peezy

[golden stream]

https://youtu.be/6YYmojCrh_Q

Obviously not world record, but im still proud that i got it, im sure i could do better

[golden stream]

just watched, nice job!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tcqao-xeAXI

[golden stream]

:D

[ionic quarry]

HI guys, not a speedrun really --- actually one monster in particular really slowed me down, but this is No Damage Completion on Ultimate Doom's E3M7 Limbo. Enjoy! https://youtu.be/zB24L6T-6U8

[ionic quarry]

Well done! If you want a tip to improve, I've seen some speedrunners drag the imps to one side in the final room to get past them quicker. The cacodemons are very annoying on that map, though.

[thorn cape]

nice

also, I swore e3m7 was called "gate to limbo", and not "limbo" 🤔 :p

[loud arch]

yeah it is gate to limbo

i think he just got it wrong

[ionic quarry]

Hi, there is some confusion over the name - Doom Wiki refers to 'Limbo' but the end screen says 'Gate To Limbo'.

[thorn cape]

weird 🤔

[loud arch]

Huh

[vapid cloud]

Like “O of destruction” and “Circle of death”

[magic scroll]

Automap says Limbo, win screen says gate to limbo pretty sure

[vapid cloud]

Just wanna announce that DSDA has been updated. If you posted a demo in doomworld on the past 1-2 months, it should now appear in dsdarchive.com

[stiff turret]

Woaj

[golden stream]

damaging floors and all? outstanding

[ionic quarry]

Hi Gingleheimer. Since so many suits are provided there is just the trip to the caco + 4 suits room to make. In 2019 I had to hope to get lucky but in 2021 tic counting made it risk free (except when I made mistakes).

[golden stream]

tic counting, looks like we got ourselves a doomgod over here! Amazing job!

[thorn cape]

https://youtu.be/3NFG5BrsV90

doing some MSCP as a side thing :^)

[vapid cloud]

Since decino started his playthrough of MSCP, Ive seen a lot of speedruns of it

Nice run!

[thorn cape]

thanks

main thing I'm working on is plutonia ep1 NM100s (progress is slow as I'm consistently dying to map04, lol, but I'll be practicing it more now)
Also been trying for 8.7X e1m1 NoMo, I have 4 8.83s

and even 2 8.97s with a headbump at 2nd door LOL

[thorn cape]

https://youtu.be/LEPAYke-6B0

[loud arch]

Plutonia episode 1?

[thorn cape]

1-10

[loud arch]

Ok

[loud arch]

What about 11

[thorn cape]

I said 1-10, which doesn't include 11 :p

[loud arch]

Why not do 11

[vapid cloud]

archies, archies everywhere

[loud arch]

One day you’ll uv Tyson it

Like decino did

[vapid cloud]

he did?

absolute chad

no one since 2012 has been bothered to try it

Am I dumb enough to try?

[loud arch]

Yeah in his plutonia playthrough videos

He just sort of says “they don’t give us any weapons here which is really strange”

And plays through with just his fist

Even when there’s a super shotgun right at the entrance

[vapid cloud]

But with beserk right?

[loud arch]

Probably

But still

[thorn cape]

Why should i?

the goal isnt to get as far as possible right now

[loud arch]

Because it would be funny

[thorn cape]

Its to do the 3 episodes individually

[vapid cloud]

He was just making a joke about Plutonia map11. aka: Hunted

This

[thorn cape]

https://youtu.be/sgcJdCDoWMA

lol

[stiff turret]

Lmao

blame Karl for the E1M1 hype

[thorn cape]

deprav told me I should close the second door on my head to keep it open on the way back from the shotgun 🙃

I guess I should do 13 tomorrow 🙃

hmm I probably won't but maybe, I'm just sick of e1m1 🙃

[golden stream]

🙃

[stiff turret]

E1m1 just hurts to speedrun in general lol

[thorn cape]

https://youtu.be/HWydylQUgVk

[vapid cloud]

Stop bullying e1m1

Whats next? NM100s?

[vapid cloud]

Oh, thats a WR. Very nice 👏 👏

[thorn cape]

Thanks :)

I'm going for 8 on NM-Speed

maybe sub 18 NM100s at one point :p

[stiff turret]

what the

confused why torture yourself with more e1m1

[thorn cape]

someone has to do it 🙂

[lime radish]

Lol too many doomguy avatars

[loud arch]

https://tenor.com/view/spider-man-we-one-gif-18212100

[golden stream]

anyone tried e1m1 with 100% secrets?

[loud arch]

To speedrun?

Are there 100% speedruns?

[stiff turret]

UV Max technically

but e1m1 uv max is shit to speedrun

e1m1 is shit to speedrun in general

[thorn cape]

@stiff turret when will you get 9 pacifist

😠

[stiff turret]

e1m1 intensifies

[thorn cape]

theres NoMo 100s and NM100s

but, if you mean UV, then no, theres no UV 100s category

[stiff turret]

^

[vapid cloud]

Yeah, in UV max you need to kill all enemies and collect all secrets. A new UV 100s category would be unnecessary

[stiff turret]

UV 100s! It's UV Max, but better, get it for 9.99

[stiff turret]

cringe

get outta here

[thorn cape]

🤔

[stiff turret]

op deleted their message

[thorn cape]

haha, what was in it

[stiff turret]

"That run looks a bit sussy"(Talking about your NM 9.09)

and then a gif of spongebob twerking 🤮

it was mega cringe

[thorn cape]

oh my god, lol

[desert path]

Bruh

[ionic quarry]

Hi guys, I've been enjoying Map 01 of Doom 2 In Spain Only --- this video includes a cautious No Damage demo followed by speedrunning the challenge. How good is my Personal Best for UV Max + Reality + Items? Outtakes and commentary included. Enjoy, amigos! https://youtu.be/ogfEttiEM0M

[golden stream]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CnDYX4OgLg0

[ionic quarry]

Hi guys, not exactly a speedrun but 'Suburbs' is one of my favourite Doom 2 maps and I've recorded a No Damage Completion, with Live Commentary. This video includes every attempt. Enjoy! https://youtu.be/Orah2zcTZNs

[stiff turret]

Ey, still counts as a reality run! Not an official category but a category regardless

[vapid cloud]

Its a subcategory of UV

Pacifist is also a subcategory that was so popular that got its own category

Ballerina is another subcategory that is just a meme

[desert path]

I kinda forgot to mention that my PB of 13 seconds was UV pacifist

[stiff turret]

...

casually speedran entryway trying for a d2all

i cant fucken believe it

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/854794877594501143/876535070347886654/Screen_Shot_2021-08-15_at_2.37.20_PM.png

[loud arch]

Id that good

[stiff turret]

I've never gotten a 6 casually running

all the monsters literally moved away from the path

if i had used SR50 i would've gotten a lower time

[loud arch]

What is sr50 anyway

[stiff turret]

just a faster way of moving

[thorn cape]

you have learnt doom II UV-speed?

nice
I wanted to do that at one point but dont know rn

currently I'm just working on plutonia ep1 NMS and also just random stuff

I got a 17.37 on doom II map02 NoMo today, really bad 16 fail

I started shaking after a really fast glide and my movement suffered a lot, lol

[stiff turret]

that sucks

:(

well shit I messed up a PB too

i got one of the fastest glides I've ever performed then proceeded to get stuck on every door

[vapid cloud]

mf50 means “move forward 50” its the fastest you can go moving forward.
sr40 means “strafe left 40” its the fastest you can go strafing left

sr50 is using 2 input options at the same time to strafe left (strafe left button and turn left + strafe button). This way you can bypass the 40 cap and get 50

[loud arch]

So it’s just a really fancy way of saying “straferunning”

[marble drift]

is a mf50 in the original game even possible?

[vapid cloud]

No its like “strafe running +”

[vapid cloud]

Yes. Just hold “w”

For sr50 you need to hold down 3 buttons, and you cannot rotate while doing it. Thats why its so hard

[marble drift]

i thought the number stands for doomlengthunits/s. am i wrong here?

[vapid cloud]

50 map units per second

[thorn cape]

@stiff turret got lv02o17.29

closer to 16 :^)

[stiff turret]

Noice

[golden stream]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xPK8J4jY0kQ&t=10s

[loud arch]

gingleheimer congrats on getting into the decino video

[vapid cloud]

Absolute chad

[thorn cape]

17.20 and 17.14 on lv02o now

lol

16 is

[vapid cloud]

Are u going for a WR or just sub 17?

[thorn cape]

Sub 17

if I get 16.97 I ain't complaining

WR on DSDA is 16.80, but looper has a 16.66 which he didnt submit

[vapid cloud]

oh damn

[stiff turret]

👀

16.66

[thorn cape]

lol

also, I got 2 more 17s today, heh

17.94 (really bad ending, but it wasnt good enough for 16 anyway :p) and 17.6

I had a couple runs in which I got stuck for the glide very quickly, but I always accidentally changed angle when moving forward 🙃

[stiff turret]

oh nice

[thorn cape]

I dont think any glide will top this one, though, it was so lucky :p

16 fail because of very bad movement in the end :/

[stiff turret]

yeah ive had pbs fucked because movement at the end too 😂

got nervous after a quick glide

[thorn cape]

heh

[stiff turret]

wow that was basically an instantaneous setup

[thorn cape]

I don't think that was the fastest glide I've done? but its the luckiest for sure

[stiff turret]

muscle memory?

[thorn cape]

I mean, I have muscle memory to land pretty much in the centre of the gap a bit to the right, but that was pure luck :p

[stiff turret]

ah

[thorn cape]

but, I do have 2 indicators for when to start moving forward:

doomguy gets "stuck" in the gap, or I am in the centre of the gap and the very few light pixels on the brown wall to my right disappear

[stiff turret]

welp fucked up more movement 😂

fastest glide i've ever done too rip

[thorn cape]

damn, could I see the demo?

what's your best, btw?

[stiff turret]

i wasnt recording a demo atm but i really should rn

[thorn cape]

🤨

[stiff turret]

best I think is a 25 because both movement and glide was fucked

[thorn cape]

record demos, lol
you could get a PB just like that

[stiff turret]

yeah I really should lmfao

[thorn cape]

What was the time when you made the glide, btw?

that was what I wanted to check

just give a rough estimate or something

As soon as you went through, the time then

[stiff turret]

i think around 13

[thorn cape]

hmm, not bad

thats about 19-21 pace

For 16 you need to get the glide at about high 8-low 9

Also, my first sub 20 also has an insane glide.. :p

movement was TERRIBLE but the glide was hilarious, ill send the vid

[stiff turret]

alr 👀

[thorn cape]

https://youtu.be/sgjr-wxaR1k

I only used W. 🙃

I didnt use strafe on, I didnt use VMM
Only W...

Even for that lucky glide 17.37, I had to use VMM. For this, nope :p

[stiff turret]

oh damn that glide

i've only gotten that glide abt 2 times, one off demo and one on

[thorn cape]

honestly? with perfect movement, thats probably just barely a 15 pace

[stiff turret]

the demo sadly got corrupted but I got a video of it thankfully

[thorn cape]

Damn, I see

[stiff turret]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SiMdgspe6hA

quite shitty

also idfk why the gamma seems so high

[vapid cloud]

Thats not the gamma

Thats the color space iirc

You need to change it in obs

[stiff turret]

welp just got a 25.03 after sum fucked up movement

could've gotten a 23 or 24

[vapid cloud]

e1m1 is pain enough, I think I'll pass map02

[stiff turret]

22.94

93 attempts LMFAO

[vapid cloud]

nice

[thorn cape]

heh, well done

lets have a look at the demo

pretty good, going for sub 20? :^)

[thorn cape]

heh, that was lucky

glides can be 🙃

[golden stream]

@thorn cape do more tnt map 09 bunghole

[stiff turret]

[thorn cape]

lol

I'll probably end up doing it in time anyway :p

but I'm working on plutonia episodes NMS right now, ive not ditched NM, lol

progress in that is a lot more.. gradual and constructive, so those may take a while

[golden stream]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xUBq_QL2JXY&t=1927s

[thorn cape]

insanely tight run

scythe map31 NoMo secret exit 8.06

Trying for 7

[stiff turret]

Wow

[vapid cloud]

Heretic e3m1 seems very interesting. The WR uses some sort of archvile jump (But heretic does not have archviles)

^ This is the WR

So, the tornado attack of the Giant Stone Head (idk what it is called), launches you to the air

Im going to grind this map

[stiff turret]

i think it's called the iron lich

these right? They're pretty nasty

[loud arch]

Got damn this dude is creepy

[stiff turret]

they have 3 attacks, a tornado that throws you around, an ice attack that throws AOE shards, and I believe a fire attack

I need to recheck

[vapid cloud]

Yeah

I just got 27 👀

The WR is 26

[stiff turret]

yep, a blast of 6 fireballs launched vertically, ice balls that explode ice shards that spread out, and a tornado that both damages you and throws you around

they're nasty stuff and replace the barons from doom in the first episode

and you have to fight 3 of em

[stiff turret]

👀

[vapid cloud]

On casual play, Ive only beaten the first episode so far, and they are absolute bastards as bosses

[stiff turret]

yeah they are

the cyberdemon in the second episode I think is replaced by something called a maulotaur

[vapid cloud]

Hmm this is the wrong demo oops

[stiff turret]

and yeah its as bad as the name makes it

[vapid cloud]

This is the correct demo

[vapid cloud]

Havent faced them yet

But Im looking forward

[stiff turret]

i think in E5M8 they send uhh a whole arena of em at you

8 of them to be precise, just played the level

[vapid cloud]

Got another 27s and 3 28s. I’ll continue tomorrow. That wr is mine

[stiff turret]

this run is a complete RNG fest with that last iron lich :/

[loud arch]

Did you buy heretic for the sole propose of speedrunning it

[stiff turret]

nah

I bought it to play it too

[loud arch]

When

[vapid cloud]

I bought it 6 months ago for casual play. But then I discovered how much fun speedrunning Doom was.

[vapid cloud]

Yeah, but still the run is pretty good

[stiff turret]

i got it back then when I got most of the iwads, I didn't play it much back then because I was using choco doom and deemed it too dark for my liking

I played it every now and then but for the most part all I've played is doom

[vapid cloud]

Hexen speedrunning is a bit trickier

Have you seen what shows on dsda?

[stiff turret]

nope

[vapid cloud]

Only like 6 levels to speedrun

[stiff turret]

oh

[vapid cloud]

https://dsdarchive.com/wads/hexen/leaderboard

I have never properly played Hexen, so idk why this is like this

[thorn cape]

@vapid cloud @stiff turret plutonia episode 1 NM100s done

will be posted soon

[vapid cloud]

Yeah I saw it on the speedrunning server

You are crazy

Please dont grind it. Keep your sanity

[thorn cape]

Episode 3 next, heh

[vapid cloud]

👀

[thorn cape]

Already done some routing for it, 21-24 I've practiced a bit

Ep3 is probably a bit easier

90% of the difficulty is cramped into 23-25

[vapid cloud]

Plutonia map29 is actually pretty cool to speedrun

[stiff turret]

Wow

[thorn cape]

https://youtu.be/J98Juxy74wQ

Glides were quite slow, heh

[vapid cloud]

18 minutes of great content

I'll watch after doing some Heretic e3m1 runs

[thorn cape]

😄

A couple of the intermission screens are long, so be sure to +5 a bit in those :p

[vapid cloud]

Just got a 27.11 that I messed up

It could easily be a 26

[thorn cape]

rip

[vapid cloud]

Oh god the pain

Just got 26.57

WR is a few tics faster

My movement was shit. I could have gotten a 25

[weak needle]

[vapid cloud]

I was testing some changes I did to dsda-doom. I was making the ghosts respawn when the map is restarted.
And what better map to test this, than the map Ive been grinding for the past 2 days, Heretic e3m1
I got the WR when testing, but did not record a demo

[stiff turret]

:bobbed:

This is why you always record a demo

[vapid cloud]

I was testing using the terminal, not the launcher

Lesson learned. Never use the terminal

Im so pissed

The RNJesus trolled me

[thorn cape]

sad

[loud arch]

Trollsus

Wait that doesn’t quite work

[thorn cape]

Damn, plutonia ep3 NMS is quite fun :)

I'll enjoy this, even if 23-25 is RNG based :p

[vapid cloud]

Got the WR on Heretic e3m1 again

Its not as good as the one I got yesterday tho

Previous WR was 0:26.23. My time is 0:26.14

Could have gotten a better time with better movement, but I think Im done with this level

[thorn cape]

Haha, nice

How about e1m3 NMS now? :P

Waiting for coffee's run 👀

[vapid cloud]

Why do you have to hurt him this way

What about your Plutonia ep3 NM100s?

[thorn cape]

What about it? You mean, when I expect to beat it?

[vapid cloud]

Take your time

ik its hard

[thorn cape]

wut? I didn't mean that in passive aggressive way lol

I asked genuinely

[thorn cape]

[vapid cloud]

Me neither. Im just saying you that its gonna be a big challenge

[thorn cape]

Oh, haha

What's your next run going to be, anyway? 😄

[vapid cloud]

Something NoMo

Im tired of rng

But its probably going to be some Heretic level

[vapid cloud]

Just to let you know that Sigil e5m1 does not have any UV-speed demos

Seems like a good level to speedrun

[thorn cape]

🤔

I see
I may try it in the future but rn I'm focusing on plep3 practice and also the bs run that is sc31so in 0:07

[vapid cloud]

First try and I got 1:03

This is a pretty cool level to run

Down to 0:51 now

My goal is 40s

[thorn cape]

Noice

[vapid cloud]

0:43 now

[stiff turret]

They do actually but the standard WAD isn't demo compatible

That's why there are two versions, standard version and compatible version

The compatible version replaces E3 with Sigil

[vapid cloud]

If I search sigil in dsda, it only shows this

So could you explain that further

[vapid cloud]

Yeah thats what I saw

Is there another page for sigil demos?

[vapid cloud]

To play them back only?

Im confused. What do I need to do?

Also, Sigil appears as a 5th episode in dada-doom

[stiff turret]

You need the compatible sigil version which makes recording demos with it compatible

The compatible sigil version is a separate waf

[vapid cloud]

I have it. But only recorded with the sigil.wad

[stiff turret]

Wdym recorded only with sigil.wad

[vapid cloud]

Didnt use the compat wad

4shot said that dsda-doom doesnt need the compat wad

Im still very confused

[stiff turret]

Actually yeah it doesn't have a uv speed strange

So wait dsda-doom recorded with the standard wad and not the compat one?

I need to test this when I get home

[vapid cloud]

And this happens, so it maybe has a umapinfo lump

I will open it in Slade later

I have the 1.2 version btw

[vapid cloud]

So 4shock told me that to be uploaded it "needed" (The rules are not well defined) to be with the compat wad

Im happy with this (39s)

Time for e5m2 I guess

[golden stream]

Am I allowed to post speedruns of the add-ons for the unity port here?

[stiff turret]

Definitely

[golden stream]

Ok cool, thanks for letting me know

It’s not UV, but this map is pretty much identical on all difficulties
https://youtu.be/Ocr8xCBo9kI

[stiff turret]

Wow that glide is smooth af

And dw about difficulty on Unity because Unity is the only one with Any% actually

Which means you can do ITYTD speedruns on it

[golden stream]

ty
that glide was a pain to do quickly

[golden stream]

it just feels wrong to post any% runs because i assume that most people in this server are source players, so any% isn’t very popular

[vapid cloud]

Unity speedrunning is weird

How does that glide work? I thought Unity didnt have shorttics

Maybe the hole is bigger than 32 map units

Also does that map not have any enemies in ITYTD?

[golden stream]

there are monsters in this map, but with the route i take, they can only spawn in when i shoot near the end. and i need to shoot, or the door won't open. if the shot is timed well, you shouldn't get blocked at all on every difficulty

and the hole looks bigger than 32 units to me, but im not 100% sure

[vapid cloud]

Oh cool.
btw, are you in the Console Doom Speedrunning server? I think that thats the place to talk about Unity. You can still post you runs here, but they probably wont get as many atention

[thorn cape]

yeah he's a regular in there

[thorn cape]

@stiff turret @vapid cloud

8.00

[vapid cloud]

What wad?

[thorn cape]

scythe map31 secret exit nomo

[vapid cloud]

Also 3k attempts holy shit

[thorn cape]

1.7k about because of double restart, not 3k

but its still a lot 😛
this run is stupidly tight

[vapid cloud]

Oh, still

I never double restart

[thorn cape]

no one has 7 yet, i might add :p

record is currently 8.00 by deprav :^)

and me now, i guess
but the best on dsda is 8.14 by shock

[vapid cloud]

Damn your movement is 🤌 🤌

[thorn cape]

😄

Practiced some more plep3 today, too

I'll be going for that pain elemental secret in map26, it's very easy :p

[vapid cloud]

I never found that secret myself

But it looks so cool

[thorn cape]

That secret is the teleporter to the megasphere

[vapid cloud]

ik

[thorn cape]

Oh lol

Yeah I mean the secret is optional but I feel bad not getting it 🙃

[vapid cloud]

Im still waiting for ZM to find a way to trigger that secret in e4m3 iirc

[stiff turret]

Niceee

[vapid cloud]

Im getting demolished in Sigil e5m4

I already did e5m1 to e5m3 with pretty good times, but I cant even finish e5m4

[golden stream]

yeah, m4 sucks. the main reason why i never decided to run sigil

maps 1-3 were good though

[vapid cloud]

m6 is doable until I reach this one room where Romero unleashes hell on me

[vapid cloud]

e5m4 is still kicking my ass so I decided to check the runs made on the Unity port, but they are all made in ITYTD.
Which means that the route they take is not doable in UV speed

They are concerned on going fast, I just want to finish the level

My first exit. Doesnt even feel like a speedrun

[ionic quarry]

Hi guys. I've been speedrunning Scythe Map 14 'Power Outage' for No Damage, after doing the challenge slowly and cautiously. By how much did I beat Cyberdemon531's Reality record of 1:44.97? Watch to find out... https://youtu.be/t9XtHOU5RGE

[stiff turret]

hm lemme try it, is it honestly that bad

[vapid cloud]

Its hard af

Watch my run to see my route

I think its the best possible route, but Im not sure

[stiff turret]

one thing you can improve

there's a secret soulsphere near the crushing ceilings in the room before the blue key

grab that instead of the soulsphere in the red key room

there was a teleporter than was nearer that you could've taken

i think I may be able to get a better time idk

3:16

[thorn cape]

nice

I kinda wanted to do sigil NMS at some point

[stiff turret]

I wasted a lot of time due to 2 stupid mistakes

I waited too long at one of the crushers and took the wrong teleporter at the final arena

I could've saved I would assume... 5 or more seconds

[thorn cape]

maybe I can improve on ZMs NMS single segment run idk

rip

sub 3 maybe?

[stiff turret]

most probably

if i fucking yolo everything 😂

yeah im gonna throw everything out the window to get a lower time

sub 3 here I come

[thorn cape]

lol, gl
any time on DSDA?

[stiff turret]

hitscan is painful

i got a couple of runs where all the imps and pinkies moved out the way then proceeded to get knocked off the bridge to the red key by shotgunners

[vapid cloud]

Im also trying e5m4 rn

I want to get a 2:90 maybe

[stiff turret]

I'm very sure that red key first is the best route

[thorn cape]

also, I'm planning to optimize a lot of scythe 2 nomos

after scythe 1 map31 secret exit NoMo in 7, of course

like 4shock did a lot of scythe 1 nomos, I'll do a lot of scythe 2 :^)

He told me there was some nomos that were slower than pacifists, heh

Don't think many scythe 2 maps have good nomos

[vapid cloud]

3:10

Made a lot of dumb mistakes

[stiff turret]

man I had such a good run until i got killed by a baron

[vapid cloud]

relatable

[stiff turret]

i skip the first shotgunner or the first two if I get lucky

[vapid cloud]

I forgot to grab the yellow key in this run. Wasted a solid 15 seconds

[stiff turret]

then I have to depend on RNG for the imps and pinkies to move out the way

then I straferun through the entire bridge to the red key

if I think I don't have a clear path I have to kill some shotgunners

[vapid cloud]

Is red key first really faster?

[stiff turret]

not too sure but I'm positive since it's the key with the shortest route

the yellow key has the really long door and the blue key has you wait for crushers

AWH NO

fuck elastic collision

i've had like 15 or more runs die so far due to elastic collision

[vapid cloud]

Oh yeah fuck elastic collision

[stiff turret]

a decent time to nab the red key is under 19 seconds I think and thats with good rng

goddamit elastic collision again

[vapid cloud]

2:39 xd

I guess I'll try to get 2:30

[stiff turret]

i originally also had an idea to skip the baron guarding the last switch at the end

just something to consider

[vapid cloud]

That works if the rng makes it work

[stiff turret]

rng

[thorn cape]

How about e5m4 NoMo 🤨

[stiff turret]

🤔

[vapid cloud]

e5m7 NoMo is cool

Lets try e5m3 NoMo

[stiff turret]

I wonder... how much time can you save if you don't pick up the rad suit

my route is so heavily rng based lmao but its because im cutting as many corners possible that skill is barely factored into the equation anymore

[vapid cloud]

My best e5m3 NoMo is 1:33 so far

TomatoTom has a 1:25 in this run

Im going to try beat that

[stiff turret]

i find it difficult to perform that zero press lmao

[vapid cloud]

Whats a zero press?

[stiff turret]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J0hh-6eGHOs

here are some examples

[vapid cloud]

So a zero press is pressing a switch across a wall?

And where does that apply in e5m4?

[thorn cape]

a zero press is when you are able to press a switch over 64 units away from you

examples: pl04, lv07, lv15, lv17, ev10, sc03

[vapid cloud]

I saw this video but really dont understand it. Could you give me a timestamp where ZM does it?

Other than lv07

[stiff turret]

not e5m4

oh wait were you talking about e5m4

[thorn cape]

https://youtu.be/Zhb7pV4PP4U

[stiff turret]

because earlier you said e5m3

[thorn cape]

him pressing the exit switch, that's the zero press

[vapid cloud]

Oh I meant e5m4

And how do zero presses work?

Just ramming into the wall?

[thorn cape]

no

you need a specific angle and a precise position

not really sure about technical description, all I can say is that I know how to do them and all you have to do is get your angle and try your best to get the position fast while spamming use 😛

the angle you need for them generally is the angle you have when going for a glide or whatever, just so that you are slightly drifting to the left

[vapid cloud]

Seems painful to grind that

[stiff turret]

e5m3 has such a press

https://youtu.be/hqvd75JXSQI?t=75

hm so it seems like blue key is faster huh

WAIT WTF

WHAT

nvm its an old version of sigil

[vapid cloud]

You cant do that bar jump now right?

[stiff turret]

nope the bars are further away and higher now

[vapid cloud]

I just did a linedef skip that killed my run :(

[stiff turret]

OOF

which did you skip?

[vapid cloud]

The one that activates the crushers

They were all stoped, but suddently started and killed me

[stiff turret]

ah

rip

[vapid cloud]

Did another linedef skip. To open the yellow key switch

[thorn cape]

rip

[stiff turret]

time to get back to e5m4

[stiff turret]

ooooooh geez

finally after about i think 150+ attempts I got a 2:40.14

my heart was pumping because I think I had 6% health left

I could've saved so much more time with the cacodemons and if I pressed the switches correctly instead of looking around like an idiot

[sharp flume]

Can’t believe there’s no submissions for nightmare on some of these levels

[thorn cape]

On sigil?

[sharp flume]

I’m just referring to Doom 1993

[thorn cape]

Oh

[sharp flume]

Hell, I should submit my nightmare run of 1-6 and get an easy wr 😂

[thorn cape]

Every level has been done NM100s 😅

Literally every iwad level has been done NM100s

[sharp flume]

What’s that?

100 seconds to beat the level?

[thorn cape]

NM100s = Nightmare 100% secrets

[sharp flume]

Ohhh

People don’t seem to wanna submit tho

[thorn cape]

There's only 2 runs in the iwads that haven't been done NM100s:
TNT episode 1 and TNT full game (single segment, no saves, I mean)

No, there is lots of demos on the DSDA

I assume you are looking at speedrun.com, which isn't the official leaderboard for doom

[sharp flume]

Ohhh, yeah I’m just going off of the link in the channel description

[thorn cape]

Ah, that's doom unity ports

Yeah I don't think many NM100s have been done on the unity ports 😛

I don't think many people are interested in NM in that community

[sharp flume]

Unfortunate 😟

[vapid cloud]

dsdarchive.com

This is the site we use for speedrunning

[thorn cape]

sc31so makes me want to smash my keyboard in half

[stiff turret]

how to go insane 201

[thorn cape]

@stiff turret got 3 8.00s today

I decided to have another session of grinding

2 8.00s were within 15 minutes, got another later

that's gives a total of 4 8.00s, yay!

[stiff turret]

wow rip

[thorn cape]

Practiced 21-28 of plutonia ep3 NM100s

Will learn 29-30 tomorrow, and then I'll revise and practice the whole route before attempts :)

@burnt crystal @opal coral

[opal coral]

👍

[golden stream]

such a slow time, but im happy with it https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G6SEgaIYMv4

[thorn cape]

At least it isn't another 1;06, gg 😄

[golden stream]

yeah i got that run right after complaining about getting only 1:06s lol

[thorn cape]

heh

[stiff turret]

E1M3NS grind starting now :)

[thorn cape]

👀

[vapid cloud]

👀

[golden stream]

👀

[stiff turret]

oh my god lmaooo

i was being stupid and not using the chaingun sigh

my hand were also super fucking shaky from actually getting past the soulsphere and rocket launcher since that was the furthest I've ever gotten

wow I walked over a shotgun 3 times and it refused to be picked up

quick death after that

another death at the o ring due to stupidity and walking over the edge 🤦

my god

[thorn cape]

Rip

Getting close 🙂

once you get the chaingun and rocket launcher pretend the shotgun doesn't exist 🙂

Once you get the chaingun, chaingun everything until the o ring, and there it's best to shoot a few rockets towards the enemies on it, then chaingun back out and proceed

[stiff turret]

i think I can push out a few more minutes of grinding before I get to work

[thorn cape]

@stiff turret @vapid cloud

sc31so007 done

[vapid cloud]

Ohhh 👏👏

[thorn cape]

https://youtu.be/c0cqurfjB5Q

[stiff turret]

POG

I think that at the rate I'm pregressing E1M3NM100S will be a piece of cake

The starting room i feel like is the roughest part

Once you get the chaingun most things are pretty much a ok

NM Speed is also denoted with a - right

[thorn cape]

no

NM-speed is denoted with n
But make sure you do ns :^)

[stiff turret]

Ah i see

Yeah im doing ns

[vapid cloud]

https://youtu.be/oYVlPv5s8Uc

[fallen dome]

Anyone wants to torture themselves and help me get that Doom 2 trophy through shareplay?

[stiff turret]

You mean on nightmare?

[fallen dome]

I mean on Nightmare Co-op

It's just pain. I can't do it anymore. I was actually getting motion sickness from trying it

[stiff turret]

This requires unity right

I sadly don't have unity, I got my iwads off gog.com

[fallen dome]

It's on PS4, my guy

Another reason why it's hard. Controller aiming

[loud arch]

Yeah that’s the unity port

[fallen dome]

Oh yeah. It is

[golden stream]

i thought unity only had local multiplayer

or is that just the ps4 version?

[fallen dome]

PS4 has only local. But you can play the game with someone else's account

[vapid cloud]

Shareplay on ps4 lets you stream the game to another person and give control of one of your controllers to them

I used to play star wars battlefront like that

The other person does not need to have the game, only the person who streams it

[fallen dome]

Ohhh alright. That makes sense. I haven't used it yet so I didn't fully understand how it works. If anyone is interested in helping let me know!

[vapid cloud]

Maybe ask in the Console Doom discord server

I dont have a link for it tho

[fallen dome]

I did not know that was a thing lol

I'll look for it. Thanks!

[thorn cape]

finished plutonia ep3 NM100s learning

Will practice the harder maps and then start attempts by weekend

[vapid cloud]

@thorn cape @stiff turret are you gonna participate in the "100 table fillers month" ?

This is my first submission
amok.wad d2all nomo in 3:19 (Previous WR was 3:22)

[thorn cape]

you mean 1000 table fillers month?

nah, I don't plan to

not really keen on table filling

[vapid cloud]

Yeah 1000, not 100

[thorn cape]

@vapid cloud @stiff turret good news and bad news I have

bad news: my scroll wheel click, aka my strafe on key.. has completely broken.. I don't think I'll be able to do NoMos for a while..

good news: more time for plutonia. 🙃

[vapid cloud]

Why isnt "right click" your strafe key?

scroll wheel click seems much harder to press

[thorn cape]

because right click is my use key, lol

[vapid cloud]

Oh. I use space

[thorn cape]

I will probably rebind strafe on to a thumb key but idk if I'll have the same performance 😄

[thorn cape]

Yeah my performance is shit, I feel like my movement is now as good as it was 10 months ago

ugh
oh well
Plutonia NMS will be fine, but side runs will have to consist of something that isn't NoMo, maybe a max or something, I was thinking sunlust map28

[stiff turret]

He uses space for SR50 cuz its pretty ergonomic

I use Mouse5 button for "use" usually

Cuz i got too used to RMB for strafe on

[vapid cloud]

Mouse3 for Rocket launcher
Mouse4 for SSG
Mouse5 for Chaingun

[thorn cape]

how hilarious

[lilac ocean]

how do you get the ending where you fight the arachnotron

[thorn cape]

hm?

[thorn cape]

yeah what do you mean by ending

[lilac ocean]

its one of the ending isnt it?

[thorn cape]

ending of what exactly?

[lilac ocean]

ultimate doom

[thorn cape]

there's no arachnatrons in the ultimate doom, but a spider mastermind

You fight a spider mastermind in E3M8 and E4M8

[vapid cloud]

Its the ending of the 3rd and 4th episodes

[loud arch]

Did you get it?

[lilac ocean]

Yes

[loud arch]

Nice

Are you gonna do doom 2 now?

[lilac ocean]

Yes

[vapid cloud]

I just discovered that you can speedrun boomedit.wad

[loud arch]

What’s that

[vapid cloud]

A wad that showcases booms features

[loud arch]

Oh ok

Lol
I kinda wanna try it then

[vapid cloud]

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=d7WBQH5-1ps

[thorn cape]

ended up binding strafe on to LMB for nomos

looks like the nomo isn't dead
and LMB for strafe on is very comfortable

[stiff turret]

Makes sense

No need to shoot, right?

[thorn cape]

Mostly, no

For the runs I need to shoot, I could try binding shoot to scroll wheel click again, as it works to that extent

And I mean, I'd need to shoot for RJs, shootable switches, rocket boosts, whatever

[stiff turret]

True

[thorn cape]

will start scythe 2 NoMos I think, most are pretty unoptimized from what I've heard

[stiff turret]

New wrs 👀

[thorn cape]

:^)

also, I got a couple map23 deaths on plep3 :p

there's also that

[stiff turret]

Rip

[vapid cloud]

This is my second submission for the "1000 table fillers" month
This run is terrible, but it beats the previous WR by 1s

I died, but some mysterious force pushed me to the exit linedef

I'll take it, I guess

kssht.wad map27 UV-speed in 29s

[ionic quarry]

Hi guys - not a speedrun, although I will be speedrunning this challenge sometime later on. Map 02 of Sunlust for No Damage Completion: watch to find out how attempt number 1 went! https://youtu.be/3L908RXpfwM

[stiff turret]

Wow

[vapid cloud]

Sunlust no Damage 👀

[vapid cloud]

Forgot to post here the video for this run, so here it is
The movement is terrible, but that ending
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=01OsQRWLt-8

[stiff turret]

That death glide was smooth

[thorn cape]

nice

I got some 24s on scythe map17 pacifist today, which is another AVJ run

going for 23 which is really annoying to grind for

Probably will be a while before I do it, need to not be lazy with plutonia 🤔

I did a bit of plep3 today but I kept dying in 22, looks like I need to go back to the save states, lol

tomorrow I'll try to practice the shit out of everything, just want to get to attempts now without having to go back to practice something, heh

[stiff turret]

Nice

[thorn cape]

https://youtu.be/Qlb7ZYgxKGI

[vapid cloud]

Damn that run is impressive

[thorn cape]

hmm

I might try optimizing e3m8 pacifist

me and shock both have 58, but theoretically it can go down to 52 (realistically, I think 55 will be the limit)

[stiff turret]

52 👀

[thorn cape]

52 is never happening tho :p

I highly highly doubt it :^)

[stiff turret]

Maybe it's a job for almostmatt and his tas runs

[thorn cape]

a built TAS could go well below 52, saying a TAS could go to 52 is an understatement :p

shock had segmented a run in which every strategy went right, that was the 52

well, maybe omitting one strategy which could speed up the masterminds death.. don't remember

[thorn cape]

https://youtu.be/C16SKN69pWU

[stiff turret]

nice

[vapid cloud]

Plep3 too hard?

[thorn cape]

heh

[vapid cloud]

But nice run 👏

[thorn cape]

I'm quite lazy with it, because it requires more commitment than ILs

I tend to gravitate more towards ILs.. not because I don't want to do plep3, but because I'm lazy

need to work on that :^)

I did quite a bit of grinding yesterday, got some map24 deaths, I'll continue tomorrow hopefully

[thorn cape]

Thanks :^)

[thorn cape]

https://youtu.be/n0weDJcVGts

was going to grind plep3, but I'm leaving the house for a while now

Hopefully I can when I get home 🙂

[sharp flume]

https://dsdarchive.com/wads/doom2/leaderboard?category=NM+100S&level=Map+29

Is there actually nobody who’s done it or just nobody will submit?

[thorn cape]

@sharp flume there's no secrets in map29

[sharp flume]

Ohh

Also I for just the NM-Speed I can’t seem to access the top players video

I’m on mobile btw, would that not work?

[thorn cape]

yea it's a demo file

if you see the play button next to the time, then it's a link to the video

but doom runs are recorded via demos

[sharp flume]

Hmmm, so I can’t watch it?

[thorn cape]

You can, like this:

let's say you are using dsda-doom as a source port or whatever (can't watch on unity port, gzdoom, etc)
make a .bat file with the following:
dsda-doom.exe -iwad (iwad).wad -file (pwad).wad -playdemo XXXX.lmp

[sharp flume]

https://tenor.com/view/pedro-monkey-puppet-meme-awkward-gif-15268759

[thorn cape]

for an easier way to do it, right click the lmp file and click "open with"
Look for the .exe of dsda-doom, select that

[sharp flume]

My small brain is not understanding lol

[thorn cape]

Then you can double click it everytime, but this will only work with prboom+ and dsda-doom demos

if a demo is recorded on another source port, then double clicking won't work

[sharp flume]

Interesting, I appreciate the help

I just wanted to watch it because I can’t fathom people beating that level pistol start

[thorn cape]

https://youtu.be/YYzwx18fUAs

found a yt link to the record

[sharp flume]

Thank you 🙏

Holy shit

That is insane... I can’t believe it’s such an old record too. Guess the community still hasn’t beat a lot of records from back in the glory days of Doom

[thorn cape]

looks fairly beatable to me

but it's a good time, don't think it'd be beaten by much

[stiff turret]

...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XyN51uZCO5c

first ever level completed on Nightmare! difficulty with 100% Secrets

next level... most probably the strenuous grind for E1M3 NM100S

[sharp flume]

Nice one man

How come you didn’t just do E1M1? Lol

Also there’s that one missions with the glitched exit door button press. You can finish it very quickly

[stiff turret]

e1m1 is insignificant and it still sucks

[sharp flume]

Oh, well anyways, good luck on E1M3... looks very tough to pistol start it

[stiff turret]

it very much is

this so far was the furthest I got

I messed up by not always using the chaingun

[thorn cape]

gg

can't wait for the e1m3 :^)

[stiff turret]

yeah :^)

[thorn cape]

I was grinding plep3 today but the power had to go, lol

Since it's really hot I definitely wouldn't have had the energy to grind more, so I decided to try pl24ns since David mentioned it

Record is 1:19 by him, seems to me that I can do sub 1, but it's quite hard

had a couple 1:03/1:04s which died right at the end due to cyber

[stiff turret]

oof :(

[thorn cape]

@vapid cloud @stiff turret

well, im considering trying ev09ns again
lol
I'll do plep3ns first then we will see if I start grinding it again before plep2ns
gonna put more effort into ep3 now so I can get it done

[onyx nexus]

bro
low quality man

can't even see shit

[vapid cloud]

Oh no ev9
Are you eager to get the all ghosts glitch again?

[thorn cape]

hilarious

[thorn cape]

:^)

[stiff turret]

Oh no not ev09

[thorn cape]

did 24-30 on plep3ns today

time to not be lazy and actually beat it, 24-30 didn't even take that long

[stiff turret]

Nice

[thorn cape]

https://youtu.be/VLCNDhUHBjk

[ionic quarry]

Hi guys! This video is nothing but speedrunning on E3M8 'Dis'. New World Records are made for UV Max/Reality, NM Max/Reality (non-standard, I know) and NM Speed/Reality. Enjoy! https://youtu.be/TdkIXPpLLiA

[thorn cape]

got a few map25 deaths on plep3ns now

almost there, just need to work on map23 consistency then the run is not that bad

After map25, the run is almost free, but 21-25 is tricky

[thorn cape]

@stiff turret @vapid cloud plep3ns done in 19:02

uploading YT vid soon, demo is on doomworld/HoE server

[vapid cloud]

[stiff turret]

[thorn cape]

https://youtu.be/8Uv3AjcWC84

[vapid cloud]

Im going to watch it later when Im having dinner
Ty for entertaining me :P

[thorn cape]

:^)

[stiff turret]

linedef skip at 1:11?

just curious, what was that?

[thorn cape]

@stiff turret yeah, linedef skip

it prevents excess mancubi from lowering down in the green pillars

I've had runs pass 22 after failing the linedef skip, but it's a bit silly to not go for as it makes the red key part more RNG than it needs to be

[stiff turret]

ah

[vapid cloud]

Damn! Amazing run.
That failed jump in map29 was heartbreaking. Nice recovery tho
Next time I play Plutonia, I'll try remembering some of the strats you used. Didnt know Plutonia was so cheesable

[thorn cape]

Heh, thank you :)

Yeah honestly the whole of my 27-29 sucked

I mean, look:

JCDs time, 19:17, passes map25 with a time of 11:06
My time, 19:02, passes map25 with a time of 10:26

Definitely had a bad time loss :/

Like, a 1:22 split for map27 is really bad :p

28 was alright, made that mistake with the arach and lost some time

I'm overall happy, though. Will get a faster time in the future :^)

[thorn cape]

ev09ns has been revived

did 100 attempts today, 2 waste room deaths and 1 post rocket launcher death

need to repractice some parts for sure

[stiff turret]

oof

[golden stream]

https://youtu.be/T4sGCJd5pRE

[vague coral]

Oh god

[thorn cape]

2 more post rocket launcher deaths on ev09ns today

im so much more consistent, lol

[vapid cloud]

[thorn cape]

when I used to grind: 7 post rocket launcher deaths in 4000 attempts
in the past 2 days: 3 post rocket launcher deaths in 160 attempts

🙂

[vapid cloud]

Nice!
And how many attempts per All Ghosts bug?

[stiff turret]

nice

[thorn cape]

:p

i think I've gotten 5 all ghosts on demo, 3 in practice

[vapid cloud]

It still hasnt happen to me

[stiff turret]

oof

[stiff turret]

you can get it on nuts

[vapid cloud]

I already know about the sprites troll on nuts 2

Its not fun to play it now

[true pulsar]

bfg shotgun

[vapid cloud]

Fake Mancubus and Chaingun Megaspheres

[true pulsar]

nuts 2 actually has some actual megaspheres

kinda wasted opurtunity to make those fake megaspheres mancubi

[stiff turret]

tru

the prophecy would've been complete

megasphere with a mancubus face is actually a mancubus

[true pulsar]

consume the mancubus jawbreaker

[robust oxide]

gives me a good idea for an eternal skin

[true pulsar]

lmao

[vapid cloud]

About the Go 2 It Nightmare run, just finished my first run using a shitton of rewind. The difficulty of this run is dodging faat cyberdemons rockets (Something I suck at).

[stiff turret]

Fast cybie rockets

[vapid cloud]

A go2it run consists of:

• Getting the yellow key (Spider mastermind)
• Getting the red key (2 fast cybers in close quarters in a row)
• Getting the blue key (Mindless run between dozens of high damage dealing enemies, including archviles)
• Pressing the blue key switch (Getting past a bunch of chaingunners and revenants, and then fighting 1 fast cyber in close quarters)
• Getting to the exit (Getting past a bunch of mancubi and Barons)

Getting the yellow key is easy

With practice, getting the red key can become somewhat consistent

Getting the blue key is managable

Pressing the blue switch needs an incredible amount of luck

Getting to the exit is easy (As long as the Mancubi and the RNJesus are nice to me)

So far, in recorded runs, I havent managed to press the blue switch yet

[thorn cape]

gl

[true pulsar]

the man is actually going to do this

[stiff turret]

Tf PBeGood4

You actually are-

I have no words

[golden stream]

https://youtu.be/_08Bwvt9_gA

Hmm, this map seems way easier in Pacifist. If you shoot, the game triggers some kind of script/event that fills the level with a huge quantity of monsters

Therefore, I can only believe that this map was intended to be played like that

I also don't know if I can do the void glide in that thing. Hell, I don't even know how to do that

Whoops, I mean, the glitch where you can pass through tight walls. Is it void glide? I don't know

[golden stream]

i think it's called a squeeze glide or something like that

Yeah yeah yeah

That one

[golden stream]

Also, that run was really tight. Thought that you would be like with 1% of life health at the end lol. I like some Tyson runs

[golden stream]

thanks. it was my first tyson run. i also did e1m1 but im not sure what map to do now

[shrewd siren]

I am learning to speedrun doom 1 episode 1, any tips?

[golden stream]

which difficulty?

[shrewd siren]

Hurt me plenty but I eventually want to do Ultra Violence

[stiff turret]

yeah, monsters in the background wake up and go through teleporter traps

and squeeze glides are possible in spaces that are 32 units wide

any lower than that, no.

also, you're gonna need to specify that it's 1k Line Community Project 2, not the original

[stiff turret]

hm, doesn't seem like you can do a squeeze glide between the bars

don't think it's possible due the the direction you're facing

[thorn cape]

my god

past 3 days on ev09ns have been so SHIT

[stiff turret]

also, gliding is harder in ZDoom-based ports than in other ports as well anyway and glides are only possible facing east or south iirc

[stiff turret]

feels bad :(

[thorn cape]

when in full consistency I usually get to berserk corridor once every 10-20 attempts

in the past 150 attempts I've gotten there 4 times

2 times with absolutely shit health

[stiff turret]

oof

[thorn cape]

LOL i just got there with 1 health

[stiff turret]

👀

[thorn cape]

I could tell my performance in that demo was better than before.. I guess we have those days :^)

I'll grind a little more today

[stiff turret]

good luck

[thorn cape]

Got to the berserk corridor a couple more times

sorry for being salty before, was just really annoyed

I'm fine now, kinda hyped to beat it soon 🙂

just need the endurance :^)

i started performing way better but now I'm tired, I'll grind tomorrow

probs grind a fair bit

I also did some e3m1 UV-max grinding today, managed to get 1:03 but still not beaten my 1:01.77

Also, my best save state ev09ns run is start of berserk corridor->exit.. so, every berserk corridor attempt means one exit attempt :p

[stiff turret]

nice

e3m1 seems so grindy tbh, so much infighting and rng-shotgun galore :p

[thorn cape]

yeah it is 🙂

but a lot of things are kinda interesting when your main project is ev09ns 😄

[stiff turret]

true true, anything is better than ev09ns 😂

[thorn cape]

after ev09ns I'll probably try to max sunlust map28 and start practicing plep2ns

[stiff turret]

oh wait map28 maxed is in 11:38?

pretty sure you could do better

[thorn cape]

uhhh no :p

11:38 is an insane time, nightterror even told me that sub 11 is probably not doable

[stiff turret]

how hard is it exactly

[thorn cape]

And for a long max, 40 seconds is not that long

idk, but it's very hard :p

you should watch the demo :p

Ill go for just a max, heh

Wait, hm?

I just checked, the max time is 9:36 🤔

Maybe NT told me sub 9 wasn't possible idk

[stiff turret]

lemme download it rq

handy to have that dsda tab on the dsda-launcher to dlownload demos :D

[thorn cape]

but anyhow, skywards is a really good maxer and I won't be beating his demos anytime soon :^)

that's a neat feature actually

[stiff turret]

it's 9:36 wow

[thorn cape]

windows version when tho :^)

[thorn cape]

for when I'm not recording demos I still use PowerShell :p

[stiff turret]

yeah it's pretty handy, I think PBeGood4 is also working on it so you only need the .exe and don't need to copy the files to the dsda folder

[thorn cape]

cool

@vapid cloud how's windows version coming along

[vapid cloud]

There is a pretty complete version available

[thorn cape]

🤨

[vapid cloud]

But its not 100% finished yet

[thorn cape]

never realized, lol
I'll download when it's finished, anyhow

[stiff turret]

upon watching the demo, I forgot boom no longer limits lost souls

[true pulsar]

i guess they would

[thorn cape]

ev09ns went well today :^)

1 waste room death, and also a post RL death

I didn't grind that much, though

I spent lots of time grinding e3m1m 😂

it's cool though, probs grind ev09 a lot tomorrow

[golden stream]

is there no dsda leaderboard for nrftl demos?

[stiff turret]

there is

[thorn cape]

it's called NERVE on DSDA

[golden stream]

ok ty

[golden stream]

https://youtu.be/KlTlqx7Fs6s

I think I can achieve 0:40 tho

Those megawads are insane

[golden stream]

does rekkr have a dsda lb?

[golden stream]

What is rekkr?

And what is dsda lb? Damn, I feel so illiterate lol

rekkr is a wad that i speedrun a bit

dsda lb = dsda leaderboard. dsda is where you post demos and stuff

[golden stream]

Oh ok

Now I understand lol