eternal-modding

[obtuse arch]

music working in game

[shadow venture]

Simplest way to do big waves of enemies is to have multiple target spawn entities in a spawn group (Select spawn group entity and then target spawns and CTRL+J) and then use that spawn group in encounter commands that spawn multiple AI.

If you want to do a really big encounter with a lot of unique enemies you probably will still need a fairly long script

[obtuse arch]

Hi Kroniid, is there an easy way to see what music is available in eternal and what we need to enter into the various states to get specific tracks to play? thank you

[shadow venture]

Ah I used to be pretty familiar with that but it's been a while so I don't think I have a great answer for this one at the moment.

[oblique dirge]

ty

new map im workin g on

[obtuse arch]

no problem, I will see what I can find....

[shadow venture]

For the most part the Ambient Light and Heavy states should be most of what you need on any given level track

if you are trying to get something from a more niche part of the game than what plays during combat in the levels you likely will need to dive into some of the other states

[obtuse arch]

the "ambient" "light" and "heavy", are they in the Music_ghost_states?
like here I found "main_heavy"

[shadow venture]

Don't recall off the top of my head what the exact directory organization is unfortunately, I wasn't one of the ones to try out the modding tools and it has been a while since I worked on Eternal

[oblique dirge]

https://tenor.com/view/dog-blown-away-blown-back-gif-22009589

[obtuse arch]

No problem, I will do a bit of trial and error, thank you

[shadow venture]

I think that is most likely the case though

it sounds familiar

[obtuse arch]

main_heavy is definitely heavy, so we are getting somewhere haha

[empty bobcat]

That's a nice trick! 🙂

Thanks for movie clips.

[obtuse arch]

no problem!

[empty bobcat]

packaging

simple horde map

not great, not terrible, with even fun gameplay

[obtuse arch]

I haven't packaged anything yet, does it take a long time?

[empty bobcat]

yes

I bake map about 5 mins (it's small map)

now I'm packaging

and I hope it need only map file 😄

[obtuse arch]

ok I was worried about it being hours

[empty bobcat]

nah 🙂 but I used preset low. Ah I miss DOOM 3 times 😄

complex map took 1 minute

Packaging took also 5 mins.

[obtuse arch]

ok thats fine, i just worried cause i added a lot to my level

@empty bobcat I want to see the music entities used in Super Gore Nest, do you know how I can view these? This is all I can see

[lavish apex]

you need to go to the map manager and find the correct reference map, or you could control f and select search all refmaps

[empty bobcat]

let's try to find it!

[obtuse arch]

it all make a lot more sense why i couldnt see anything in these levels now... thank you

[obtuse arch]

im looking for the song "Massive Demonic Presence", and I know its in this map somewhat, unfortunately it seems this is the only way we can find what to type to get certain tracks in custom maps for now

bit of trial and error is needed

[lavish apex]

you could check the encounter managers and see if any of those reference a music object

[obtuse arch]

yeah it should be in one of those...

here we go

I will see if I can get it working in my map...

[empty bobcat]

oh you got it!

[obtuse arch]

maybe... seeing if it works

@empty bobcat it does work, not the exact track, but here is an example

i will adjust the state in encounter manager and see if i can find the track im looking for

according to the doom wiki its in there somewhere

[empty bobcat]

try what happens if player is not in trigger at start.

[obtuse arch]

ok

[empty bobcat]

I'm uploading but I forgot to make test after packaging 😅

[obtuse arch]

so with how its currently set up, it starts with one track from gore nest, then if i touch the trigger it chages to the heavier one

[empty bobcat]

OH! That's great!

can you put here test map with set?

[obtuse arch]

the transition is very clean like in the actualy game, so for moving from non-combat to combat this should work really well

[obtuse arch]

uh sure lets me see how to do this

[empty bobcat]

you can just take map file and put here, as I did with encounter tutorial map

[obtuse arch]

ok 1 sec

[empty bobcat]

no rush

[empty bobcat]

Great, thanks!

[obtuse arch]

if you step on the "button" it will transition to combat music

[empty bobcat]

of course map uploaded wrong ;/

I don't know the problem is in packaging or uploading

[obtuse arch]

someone the other day had problems with this too

[empty bobcat]

it was me 😄

[obtuse arch]

ok well someone as well as you haha

I am worried about reaching that part now

[empty bobcat]

ok, uploading once again

[obtuse arch]

@empty bobcat idk if you are still looking into checkpoints but i found this, could be useful

from gorenest

[empty bobcat]

damn it, I did like this on my map and it wasn't working. Thanks for screenshot James!

[obtuse arch]

np

[empty bobcat]

I'll test all new stuff on new map, I want next map done proper this time

[obtuse arch]

I just went through (I think) every encounter in Super Gore Nest:
There are 3 music states:
main_ambient
main_light
main_heavy

all activating the music entity in my earlier screenshot and test map.

[shadow venture]

Activating a change layer entity mid encounter would not save that the encounter has been completed, so it's likely that relay has a delay longer than the remaining time in the encounter before it activates the change layer entity for the checkpoint.

Given that looks like the last command in the encounter, there is likely a short delay even if less than a second

[whole cedar]

how can i make it so that the ssg pickup is fully mastered? it doesnt have the fast reload perk when picking it up

[obtuse arch]

you can give the player that upgrade, but not the weapon, so when you pick it up you reload fast etc

If you select, the deselect the player's spawn point, you will see this on the left

You want to edit devmap inv loadout

expanding 64, 65, and 66 will reveal that they are the perks associated to the gun, so in the case you would remove the gun from starting items, but keep the perks you would like the player to have

[whole cedar]

is it this one?

[obtuse arch]

yes that seems to be the one

I just removed things until I had my desired loadout.
You can also click the drop downs to change the starting weapon mods / runes

e.g. this give the precision bolt as your equip rather than micro missiles

and this would active air control

[whole cedar]

oh it worked! gonna have to start over tho i messed up something thank you!!!!!

[obtuse arch]

no worries

[obtuse arch]

Just went to test my mod after packaging. Safe to say that something went wrong

[oblique dirge]

what you guys think so far

[fluid hatch]

Nice i like it and the dripping down blood.

[lavish apex]

make sure you build it once without slowmode only checked

[empty bobcat]

Finally it works

I didn't check decls for env, cause I thought it's build in map but it's not. Each time I upload the map I had default shadows from 90 degress top. Finally it works.

[empty bobcat]

Also any stutter I had totaly vanished.

[slender iron]

Do these different index's run in parallel?

[exotic badge]

Congrats on release man!

[empty bobcat]

Interesting, but there is no Wait functions, so looks like they run the same time. But what for do this with two commands if you can do this with one and show which ai should spawn.

[empty bobcat]

btw. my entryway:

[obtuse arch]

I will check this out. Would you mind telling me how you packaged as I am also having issues. I built my map, tested it was working, packaged, and then the test of that was completely broken. Thank you

[empty bobcat]

sure

[obtuse arch]

thank you everyone for helping me make my map! it is finally finished

[oblique dirge]

Hey Doom , where do I find all the nekravol stuff

[empty bobcat]

the same path I showed you last time

[oblique dirge]

Oh Srry

It’s just weird to find it

[empty bobcat]

art/kit/ (and I don't remember) 😄

I don't know you use assets browser or you click right and trying to put a model

I think is better doing this from assets browser - cause you can drag and drop models

also you can set in filters in assets browser: models

so did you run my encounter_tutorial.map?

it's preety ready to play map, just slowbuild, nav, voluems and triggers

[oblique dirge]

Not yet I really wanna focus on building my map because I’m tired of not finishing the map

[oblique dirge]

all mappers good luck with your map. Have a blessed day.

[empty bobcat]

OMG:

[oblique dirge]

yooo

[muted crystal]

hello

[oblique dirge]

hi

[obtuse arch]

hmmmmmmmmm

[empty bobcat]

yes, but there is limit 32 ai spawned at once

[obtuse arch]

This is true, I mean I can barely run the original WAD on modern hardware, 3d models would never work.

I wanna see if a wave of each would be any fun, imps then pinkys then barons... etc

ok actually 32 is an interesting number, i have an idea

[empty bobcat]

are those kits part? What are their names?

[rich prism]

Is there any word about when "Graveyard" custom map that was livestreamed at QuakeCon is gonna be released to the public?

[empty bobcat]

I didn't see that, do you have some link to this?

[rich prism]

Here's the livestream: https://www.twitch.tv/videos/2220938245?t=01h52m40s it was made by some id devs and it looks pretty cool if short

[heavy torrent]

GW lawsuit inbound

[empty bobcat]

thanks!

[hasty oyster]

anyone know how ot attach custom destribiles to a new ai? new cacodemons have faceplates on their armor that can be blown off. Would be nice for that armor to match their reskin when detached

[karmic musk]

It's all under mars core kit. Abbreviation for assets are mc_

[empty bobcat]

ok, thanks 🙂 I'm just ripping corridors from nest 😄

[hasty oyster]

maybe gorecontainer wounds

[hasty oyster]

yep, works aobu t90% of the time

getting very strange inconsistienices. When i spawn a monster, it sometimes (instread of spawning the intended monster) spawns the same one i spawned bfore

granted, this is from its inhertied monster. So ai/heavy/cacodemon. I tried spanwing ai/heavy/cacolantern and it will sometimes spawn the normal cacodemon and vice versa

[tight hinge]

create a copy of the destructible and material remap it

[hasty oyster]

yah i got it figured out. Thanks. had to also add a new goreconainter and changed parts of the wounds

i think i have all the caco's working visual wise, now i need to start making custom projectiles and attributes.

[empty bobcat]

Gorre planet

[karmic musk]

Super Gore Planet

[whole cedar]

update: so after testing the map again turns out that the ssg's upgrades dont activate after picking it up, they do after loading checkpoint though

[hasty oyster]

alright time to make new projectils for fire caco, this might take a lot of work

one of them needs a tracer and a quick stun effect, not sure of the latter is possible

[oblique dirge]

https://tenor.com/view/ken-ken-carson-freestyle2-ken-music-video-ken-carson-freestyle2-gif-27394137

[tight hinge]

Wouldn't a damage over time effect work better?

[oblique dirge]

love it!

[hasty oyster]

Yes i want to do that as well

going ot do fire first, so probably a DOT, maybe a debuff during that time that increase dmg taken? not sure how far i can go

[tight hinge]

Should be easy to do

[hasty oyster]

going ot make all the projectiles first. seems to be going okay.

[obtuse arch]

ah damn, very odd. I wonder if there is either a different ssg pickup entity or a way to edit the pickup entity

[whole cedar]

after more testing with different weapons ive realized that i dont even need to load checkpoint, just swap weapon mods, shame the ssg doesnt have weapon mods 🥲

[hasty oyster]

i probably should of worked on one cacodemon at a time, eeeek,

[pearl junco]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1271883689722118255/1279962883500937350/image.png?ex=66d659d3&is=66d50853&hm=436e5172c70124da3dffa16ebded74acf1f258fc75fbb1010caecb88fd852f5e& https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1271883689722118255/1279962884289462452/image.png?ex=66d659d4&is=66d50854&hm=959a3798f04bd0fe6a0e311a8bbe706878eeb8d6a6ec16095491708787ab543c&

I love classic doom's impossible wall geometry

[hasty oyster]

Ice Cacodemon, i want to give him a ice grenade projectile. Bad idea?

does freeze or do damage. obviously. Now to find those variables. I have a feeling you can't freeze the player traditionally

make a new impact efft, player hurt effect?

[oblique dirge]

Hey guys, I was wondering how do you end A-level?

[hard tapir]

are you asking how to physically add a level exit, or how to naturally bring your level to a close in terms of level design

[oblique dirge]

Like when I’m done with all the waves the level ends

[hard tapir]

oh wait shit i thought this was the classic doom channel

I'm sorry I don't know how to do that in doom eternal lmao

but im guessing you put something at the end of your encounter manager that triggers either some sort of level end entity, or activates a logic entity that ends the level

[karmic musk]

I drew up a non-canon concept on paper where the demons accidentally open your sarcophagus. Your arsenal and upgrades are scattered through out the level (which is palace located in hell). You start out with only your fists initially for this first arena, and then the shotgun will be acquired after. The idea is to make this play a like classic mode on paper. This video is just a blockout/concept of the idea of using blood punch initially as a intro to the mission.

Might make the pillars that have blood punch recharge under them crushers.

[empty bobcat]

it's upside down, but still I like it 🙂 here is the texture in classic DOOM

[pearl junco]

It's right side up, I just haven't written the code to vertically shift the textures correctly.

[quaint moth]

Do any of you guys do YouTube tutorials or do twitch streams on this stuff I very new to it but would love to learn

[cobalt cipher]

Now, I don't know how plausible this is - but if you want my two cents, I would make the ice cacodemons a proximity threat! If you're within (x) meters of them, disable the players ability to dash or move fast.

There are two ways I would think about doing this, but they are guesses. The first being the Cursed Prowler effect that prevents dashing - you'd need to modify this to only apply to the player when they are within range of the caco - the second is somehow attaching the Sludge volume to the cacodemon (Which is the volume used to apply the purple goo effect)

[cobalt cipher]

Has anybody else encountered an issue where the launcher appears to be running on Steam and on Task Manager but the application isn't visible anywhere?

[tropic oasis]

Yeah I got the same issue last night (and it's still like that)

[cobalt cipher]

I've resorted to reinstalling it

I've done all the other things that should work

[plush spire]

So THAT'S why startan was upside down in the 2016 classic areas!

[tropic oasis]

Hopefully that works! I also tried a bunch of stuff, the non-beta launches fine but i guess there was an update yesterday

[cobalt cipher]

I can't see any sign of it having updated yesterday - my only other suspicion is that it's trying to communicate with servers and there are issues with those

But idk if that makes any sense

[cobalt cipher]

reinstalling worked fyi

[oblique dirge]

Does someone tell me how to end a level, please?

[cobalt cipher]

Let me have a look for you, one sec

[tropic oasis]

Nice thanks for the update, I'll try that as well

[cobalt cipher]

before you do

Can you try something else for me, if you haven't already!

Could you go into Steam Settings - Downloads - Clear Download Cache. Then see if it launches okay?

I didn't try that before reinstalling it, and I wonder if that might work

[oblique dirge]

Ok

I’ve been trying to figure it out for a while

There’s no way no one can just tell me how to do it right😔

[tropic oasis]

Didn't seem to work unfortunately

[oblique dirge]

All I wanna do is when the wave ends it just ends the level

[cobalt cipher]

So it looks like you're going to want one of these.

Set it as a target of a trigger volume, or an activator inside your encounter manager.

Inside the Level Transition, set "Display Stats Screen" and "Return to Main Menu" to true.

[cobalt cipher]

I'm gathering this from looking at how it ends on Nekroval and putting the pieces together, it might not be exactly how to do it but it should hopefully set you along the right path (Although, I don't see any reason why this wouldn't work)

[cobalt cipher]

Ah that's fine then! At least I didn't just waste time reinstalling it 😅

That first screenshot isn't very helpful, try this one 😅

[tropic oasis]

Did you only reinstall the game or also idStudio? The former didn't work for me yet

[cobalt cipher]

Only the game

idStudio still loaded for me even when the launcher wasnt opening so I didn't bother

[tropic oasis]

Ok thanks, I'll just have to keep trying other solutions

[pearl junco]

Implementing vertical texture alignment is a painful process https://doomwiki.org/wiki/Texture_alignment

lot of conditionals that I'll need to sift through, and modify the texture plane in response to

[obtuse arch]

If you select the two things that you want to texture, then select the texture, it will automatically tile them, not useful in all cases though

[pearl junco]

idStudio and it's surface inspector is not precise enough for you replicate classic doom texture alignment and scaling by hand....and attempting to do so manually would be an incredibly painful process. You're much better off writing code that can compute and construct the brush definitions correctly

[hasty oyster]

Looking to add multiple projectil types to the cacodemon. Is the AI attackgraph the decl i should be looking at?

[tropic oasis]

Verifying idStudio got everything finally working again. It had also launched fine for me earlier when the game launcher didn't, but apparently something was terribly wrong with it, 823 files failed to validate

[obtuse arch]

Does anyone know how to create nav mesh for flying demons?

[tropic oasis]

I don't but remember seeing this, did you try it yet? (edit: cursor not visible, i mean that "flight" checkbox)

[tight hinge]

aiBehavior probably

[obtuse arch]

Yeah, but for some reason they die a couple seconds after spawning...

[tight hinge]

flight volume

you need to do it manually I think

[obtuse arch]

This volume yeah?

I will give it at test, ty

[tight hinge]

dunno if it's that one but try it out

[empty bobcat]

I got flying demons and they behave normal even without any of nav.

[obtuse arch]

how strange....

Well I added the volume and now they work perfectly

[empty bobcat]

I didn't know there is volume for flying ai

[plush thicket]

Make sure guys when you make a checkpoint make sure the first player start entity like when the level begin, have the initial parm in the player start entity checked on like this in pic

and every player start entity must have it own change layer entity

If you wanna trigger anything when you load a checkpoint bind the thing you wanna trigger only to player/start entity not the change layer entity

[hot agate]

if/when ID mod distribution service inevitably gets shut down, will that take down all ability to download/use mods or is it possible to package them for traditional distribution in a zip archive?

[hasty oyster]

yah studding this decl now thanks

i see projectile remaps.

[oblique dirge]

yo

[oblique dirge]

How do I update my map?

[cobalt cipher]

Hi Y'all!
Is there a way to disable the AI used for the Spawn Parent - my problem is that the Spirit is possessing enemies at the start of my level and I don't want it to

[empty bobcat]

So you use SpawnAny? Will not help making a spawn list and spawn the Spirit in next encounter?

I just asking. You have probably more experience in this than me, but I'd do this that way, but I can be wrong.

I found Archville can summon ANY ai, even what I do not want.

any from vanilla game except bosses

[cobalt cipher]

No, so you know how you have to do this to set up the spawn parent target?

Well the Spirit in that line was finding active AI and possessing it

But I solved it, I just placed it way way way way out of the range so it can't possibly possess anything in the map

[oblique dirge]

its up

[cobalt cipher]

You can customise this - if you use the "Spawn Archville" command, you can set which template it uses.

I don't know how to create those templates yet, but I'm sure that's easy enough to find

[empty bobcat]

For example I got this like that, for the first wave to prevent other ai from the queue:

if I set Spawn Any - it will random spawn all enemies from queue

[cobalt cipher]

Nice! I'll give it a look in a lil' bit! 😄

[empty bobcat]

But in 3rd wave I used this like that:

my waves are very simple, and thanks to help from Saleem I got now full working checkpoint in mid fight between waves.

Or! Maybe it's even better idea - you can spawn Spirit after some time, or some killcount?!

Sounds good for me. @cobalt cipher

[cobalt cipher]

I'm not sure we're on the same page 😅

[empty bobcat]

ha, sorry, maybe, yes. You got wave 1 - you want to spawn spirit after some demons died?

[cobalt cipher]

No 😅

Do you have a spawn parent set up in your level? Where you have to attach all your AI to and then you attach that to the spawn group

[cobalt cipher]

Yes exactly that! So I have a Spirit in that line up - but the AI is active and it's attaching to stuff 😅

[cobalt cipher]

But I fixed it anyway

[empty bobcat]

You mean this group:

not this?

My last question before going to bed - do you know maybe how to change player speed and step size?

[halcyon stratus]

That Precipice map is awesome. Easily the best looking custom map so far. If anyone were to tell me it was official content or a BM map I wouldn't double guess it.

I don't even mind that it's endless at its current stage. Kinda wished it wrapped up at some point though, but no harm done.

[obtuse arch]

woah

[cobalt cipher]

Some notes and feedback! Take whatever you want from this, it's entirely up to you and it's your project!

Level Art - Beautiful, great reuse of the assets from the campaign to make a unique space

Level Design - I enjoyed the wide open space, not an awful lot of cover available which is challenging.

Gameplay Design - Very therapeutic on lower difficulty levels, utterly impossible on harder difficulties 😅 I love the idea of replacing fodder with the Maykr angels for easy ammo and that's inspired one of my own encounters for my master level, but I'd maybe not have quite so many of them around 😅

Pretty fun start, I can't wait to see how it goes as you develop it!

[obtuse arch]

There are A LOT of Maykr Drones, it's true haha

[cobalt cipher]

I thought I solved it, but it persists. Any advice, @shadow venture? I can't find any settings that look like they would work

[obtuse arch]

What is the issue you're having?

[cobalt cipher]

The Spirit AI that exists in the level for the purposes of the Spawn Parent, is possessing AI during encounters that it shouldn't even be present in

[obtuse arch]

Is the spirit attached to a spawn parent at all?

[cobalt cipher]

It is

A seperate spawn parent to the one being used in all other encounters

[obtuse arch]

Is the "spirit spawn parent" attached to the incorrect spawn point / spawn group volume?

[cobalt cipher]

I'll reopen the editor and check, two seconds

[obtuse arch]

I'll take a look too, I'm curious now

[cobalt cipher]

Nope, so you can see here that the Spirit is only attached to one Spawn Parent, and that is only attached to the three spawn groups of an encounter half way through the level

[obtuse arch]

Sorry my internet went out

ok i can see the issue

You need something like this setup

[cobalt cipher]

Explain what I'm seeing here?

[obtuse arch]

I have 2 spawn parents:

parent1 looks after the spirit only.

parent2 looks after 5 different AI:
archvile, marauder, tyrant, doom hunter, and baron.

[cobalt cipher]

Okay, does that work? Have you tested it?

Because the Spawn Parent that the Spirit is attached to currently is a totally different one from what I'm using in the other encounters so I'm not sure what difference that would make

[obtuse arch]

Oh I see the issue

Ok so, parent1 must look after ONLY the spirit.

You gotta disconned his pals there (even though they are connected to another parent also)

[cobalt cipher]

So this is the Spawn Parent being used for all the other encounters in the level

The other one is only being used for one single encounter

Okay, but have you actually tested it because I don't wanna go around breaking a load of links that I'm gonna have to rebuild if it doesn't work 😅

Like, I hear what you're saying but logically that's technically already what's going on here. The Spirit is totally disconnected from the encounters that happen at the start of the game but it's still being spawned

[obtuse arch]

I will test it now, one moment

So I spawned a group in, with no spirit,

Then I stepped on the button to summon the spirit later into the fight

Only issue is spirit animations aren't present, might be because I set the spawner to "teleport" idk

[cobalt cipher]

Okay that's promising, does your group spawn in quite quickly after the game loads?

[obtuse arch]

I pulled a switch to spawn them

had to cut start of that cause of discord file size limit

[cobalt cipher]

When you load into the level do you hear the Spirit? Do you hear it scream?

[obtuse arch]

no

i can double check, but i dont think so

there finally got the file small enough, you can see that the spirit only shows up after i hit the trigger, all that is missing is animation

Ok so interestingly,

If you use samur_spirit, it will spawn like this, rather than starting inside the closest enemy

idk if any of its other properties are different or not

[cobalt cipher]

set up

spirit

[obtuse arch]

the selected thing is a spawn parent entity?

[cobalt cipher]

yep

[obtuse arch]

is this the only spirit ai in your world editor?

[cobalt cipher]

Yes

[obtuse arch]

did you build triggers/volumes (might work idk)

[cobalt cipher]

It's 1am my time so I think I'll just wrap it up for now and see if Kroniid has any suggestions on how they actually did it. Thanks for your help tho, I appreciate you taking the time to try and figure it out.

[obtuse arch]

no problem

[cobalt cipher]

Apologies if I came across as being short with you btw, absolutely not my intention

[obtuse arch]

Not at all, you're all good! 😎

[plush thicket]

spaghetti everywhere

[obtuse arch]

tell me about it.... ends up a total mess haha

[plush thicket]

That not even a miss that actually organized LMAO

The gameplay part the most fun part to do

[obtuse arch]

I like the gameplay part and some of the decorating parts most

[plush thicket]

I mod levels for 3 years I was using the notepad++ we were only modify the entities file which most the times took months to make a level, but right now we have the studio we can visualized everything much better then note editing lmao

[obtuse arch]

Yeah its a very nice app, even if it does crash sometimes

[karmic musk]

Yeah, i can't believe some of the crazy stuff yall came up with prior to the tools.

[shadow venture]

I don't believe the spirit entity should spawn automatically if the spawn parent has it on its target list- are you completely certain it is on there?

[cobalt cipher]

You're not gonna believe this...

I'm so dumb. Litterally the moment I read that I realised what I had done - which is that when I was first placing the AI, I was doing it in the wrong layer. And I didn't delete them from that layer when I corrected the mistake

@obtuse arch I'm sorry 😅

[cobalt cipher]

Thank you for coming to my aid to help fix a problem that was entirely of my own creation... again

[obtuse arch]

Don't be sorry, we are all learning haha

[oblique dirge]

https://youtu.be/xau0zu7m-B4?si=1YB8IGsd9N6-1j60

This mod is not by me I’m just a showcase

[fickle glade]

Does anybody know if the string editor in idstudio works now?

[halcyon stratus]

Know what- the more I played with Nikkman's delighter mod, the more I realize how important the highlights are. Enemies are either pure black depending on lighting or blend in with the background entirely.

[plush spire]

Is there a way to have one map look at whether I start it from 'Main Campaign' 'DLC 1' or 'DLC 2?' And activate certain triggers or loadouts based on that?

The idea being that one selection can have a default 'slow-roll' Campaign styled experience, another can be an Arcade mode where you start with basic ish (reset across multiple levels even) and a Master Level Variant where you're a fully loaded Slayer, but the kitchen sink is thrown at ya.

Basically to prevent mod filesize bloat resulting from three instances of each map.

[obtuse arch]

Anyone managed to successfully update their mods? I have tried several times and keep recieving this error,

[oblique dirge]

What did you do

[oblique dirge]

Did you tast it

[obtuse arch]

Yeah all tested, works well

There are 17 files needed, it gets to 8 and then stops uploading, with the error message I posted above

[oblique dirge]

Upload in id when you package it

That’s how did my lvl

[obtuse arch]

You updated it or just uploaded it?

[oblique dirge]

Ye

That what I Idid

[obtuse arch]

You updated your mod through the studio software?

[oblique dirge]

Ye

[obtuse arch]

hmm I will try this later, wasted too much time trying to update this already haha

[empty bobcat]

hmm, I think it belongs in here:

[oblique dirge]

lol

[obtuse arch]

little nut 1? 😮

[hasty oyster]

okay so lots to do for editing projectiles and adding new attacks for my caco's

i need to make a nice spreadsheet. I am not sure if i can figure out all this by myself.

[hasty oyster]

where can i make it so a monster can't be flame belched or frozen by grenade?

I also want ot add a "buff" like the totem when that happens until the monster dies. Don't be throwing ice at the cacolich

or try flaming the cacolantern. bad things happen

also wnat ot take weak points for the purple guy. I think i know where to look for that...

[cobalt cipher]

A new thing I need help figuring out!

Rebuilding the collision on the map for triggers ect. has broken the Kalibas fight, it's projectiles are colliding with something and I can't for the life of me figure out what, or how to undo it.

I've verified this by creating a new mod, loading up the map and testing before and after rebuilding collision (no other changes made)

[oblique dirge]

https://tenor.com/view/lets-go-the-rock-rock-go-rock-lets-go-lg-gif-18455293

[oblique dirge]

By the way, I meant let’s go at this

[karmic musk]

I'm currently looking at Nekrovol in the editor since I'm gathering concepts and info on what set pieces it uses...I'll check out the Kalibas area and see what I can find.

[oblique dirge]

You’ve been making pretty good progress. I love that. Please keep it up.

[cobalt cipher]

Ty, let me know if you figure anything out!

[cobalt cipher]

What's really weird is that the player projectiles still work perfectly fine, you can still damage it and only when the shield column is down so idk why or how it's getting in the way of the eyeballs projectiles

[karmic musk]

I don't know what can be affecting that...But I loaded up maps/game/sp/e3_m2_hell_game. Looked at the eye blaster cage and didn't really see anything that could cause that to happen. Collision or whatever. Don't know if the dummy projectile field as anything to do with it...Mostly because it's unchecked.

I don't really see much under the sorting_eye.map prefab in the logic designer either

[cobalt cipher]

No I've not changed anything to do with that, and there are little gaps where the projectiles do actually get through and hit the player - but they are tiny, and not how it operates normally

[obtuse arch]

Mars Core music entity, for anyone that needs it. States are,

main_ambient
main_light
main_heavy
mars_core_pain_elemental_reveal

and possibly more that I missed, these maps are huge

Taras Nabad Music Entity:

[cobalt cipher]

Could you source Arc Complex for me 👉👈

[obtuse arch]

sure

[cobalt cipher]

Also do you know how to grab the Meathook track?

[obtuse arch]

I don't know how to select specific tracks I'm afraid

[cobalt cipher]

I think it's the track used for most of the Slayer Gates, if that's any help

I've been meaning to look myself, just haven't gotten around to doing it yet

[cobalt cipher]

Ah yes! Ofc it's Exultia's combat music as well

[obtuse arch]

The issue is I can only seem to set a music state, usually Ambient, Light or Heavy.
I don't know how to select a specific track

The states appear to select essentially different heavy/light tracks that use similar motifs, at random

I will find the entities, but idk how to select specific tracks, or if it can be done

[cobalt cipher]

No worries if not! I'll let you know if I make any discoveries myself

[obtuse arch]

Arc Complex

Exultia

weirdly exultia uses the same switch state as taras nabad...

idk what's going on there tbh, I'm probably missing something

[cobalt cipher]

I imagine they probably use the same music

Which makes sense, Exulita is such a short level and the music hits pretty hard

It's also the same location (or near abouts)

[shadow crown]

Thanks for this! This will help me save a lot of time. I haven't been able to fire this much the last couple of weeks.

[obtuse arch]

This is also possible

[pearl junco]

https://wiki.eternalmods.com/books/5-level-modding/page/idmusicentity Just use this wiki page

it has all the states listed there

[cobalt cipher]

Ah @pearl junco, do you have any idea what this is about??

[pearl junco]

No

[cobalt cipher]

Fair, worth a shot, you seem like you have a decent amount of know how

[obtuse arch]

Woah, I didn't know this existed

[pearl junco]

I have a fair amount of understanding and experience with commonly explored areas of modding - though in-depth level modding isn't something I'm experienced in

[cobalt cipher]

No worries 😊

[empty bobcat]

I'm going to run idS on 16 gigis i7 2600 and 1080ti 😄 wish me luck 😄

working 🙂

but: XD

[empty bobcat]

Do env decls work without assets downloaded? Cause I got real weird effect.
In game looks properly, but in engine not:
Ingame:

engine:

but, hey - it works 😄

now it works:

[oblique dirge]

Oh hell no

[tight hinge]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1220696817088462888/1280866538601320520/Untitled.mp4?ex=66d9a36c&is=66d851ec&hm=98b0fe385f3653ce8ac0576ec0fd85ca1b0590f0d6228577107ad41a0b391d92&

Current progress so far

[karmic musk]

https://tenor.com/view/jack-nicholson-funny-gif-24793899

[brave wadi]

Very nice! How do you have those screens working? As far as I can tell, those monitors are a model with a swf on top. Unless I'm missing something, we don't have access to the swf files.

[cobalt cipher]

Quick fire, how do you set up a level to start when you start a new game?

[brave wadi]

Modify the dev menu option decl. Set it to your map instead of hell on earth, delete the HOE layers, and save it

[oblique dirge]

Does anybody know what the flying thing is I need for my lvl

[cobalt cipher]

tysm

[brave wadi]

You're welcome!

[oblique dirge]

Anyone

[cobalt cipher]

I'm looking for ya, hold on a sec

[oblique dirge]

Ty

[cobalt cipher]

Okay so it's not a simple prop, it's actually an amalgamation of a few different objects

[tight hinge]

I copied the swf files from mars core

[cobalt cipher]

Honestly it might be easier for you to download the level and copy and paste it into yours instead of me trying to break it down for you

[prisma vector]

5⁵@oblique dirge Gargoyles are imps with wings. Do you mean them?

[brave wadi]

Got it. I'll have to play around with copy and paste then. I've solely used the asset browser so far

[oblique dirge]

Ok

[oblique dirge]

I thought I can’t touch anything in the original levels

[cobalt cipher]

You can, everything is just in layers so you'll have to make sure you're in the right one to interact with what you want.

Double click on a layer in the map manager to make it the active one.

You can make it easier to find what layer something is in by toggling the visibility of each layer

[oblique dirge]

Ok ty

[empty bobcat]

you got it? I have this model, but without lava, nonanimated.

[oblique dirge]

Do I need to animate myself?

[empty bobcat]

ofc

it's mover or spline

if you want to move it around

plus lava fx/emitter

[oblique dirge]

Is there a rotate trigger in the game?

[empty bobcat]

for sure, but I didn't use it yet

[oblique dirge]

Do you know what it’s called? It’s very really easy to

[oblique dirge]

Ty

I’ll do it when I get home

[oblique dirge]

Do you know how to group stuff together so they can both move together?

[empty bobcat]

you can select something - click right

but if you shift click any of it - they will be separated

if you mean merge, I do not know how to do this

[oblique dirge]

How do I make a move at the same time?

Like I have a block and there’s another block they’re not the same, but the move trigger will move both of them

[oblique dirge]

If you can tell me that would be a big help

What nvm

[empty bobcat]

@oblique dirge 👆

[oblique dirge]

My map is gonna shock people

[obtuse arch]

love the skybox, and walking out into space

[empty bobcat]

challange accepted :>

[oblique dirge]

Indeed

[cobalt cipher]

My Nekroval Master Level Playtest Demo is ready to play!

Please, if you have feedback, take 5 minutes to fill out the form on the Mod's Description page

[obtuse arch]

I'll take a look.
They should really add a comments section for feedback imo

[empty bobcat]

also - there is no search in mods, right?

[oblique dirge]

I will play when I get home

[cobalt cipher]

There is, it's just awkward

[empty bobcat]

I mean in here:

even filter like latest would be cool, I can't find your map that I downloaded

[cobalt cipher]

Oh to search through the mods you've already downloaded you mean? Yea unfortunately not

[cobalt cipher]

I don't think it will appear until it's finished Downloading

[empty bobcat]

but it's downloaded

ok, got it

[empty bobcat]

How did you do to start map from menu?

[oblique dirge]

New save

[cobalt cipher]

Like this

[empty bobcat]

there are some pitch black walls and floors

[cobalt cipher]

In the level? Send screenshots?

[empty bobcat]

I can restart map, maybe it's some on my site

[cobalt cipher]

Oh that might just be down to the bake setting on the lighting, I'll address it for the proper release

[empty bobcat]

or bake, yes

[cobalt cipher]

Oddly never noticed it on mine though, so I'm not sure why you're getting it

[empty bobcat]

those heals are not set on ground:

[empty bobcat]

hmm, I'm runing in background another instance, maybe that's the cause

[obtuse arch]

Ok, I only played the start so far, but one thing of note, is it possible to add a checkpoint here after the first lock in at the steps?

[empty bobcat]

@obtuse arch can you confirm those black walls?

[obtuse arch]

ill take a look

here?

[empty bobcat]

@cobalt cipher hey pls do not worry about things I found (I always worry when people finding bugs on my map, but this help me to fix it 😉 )

[cobalt cipher]

It's possible - I'll see how it goes in broader playtesting though, it's meant to be a stamina challenge but it's too harsh then I can look into it

[empty bobcat]

map author never see his own bugs on map 🙂 best are fresh testers 😄

[cobalt cipher]

Oh the feedback is great, I don't want buggy or misplaced things yk so it's always good to have that to address

[cobalt cipher]

or hers

[empty bobcat]

yes! 😄

[cobalt cipher]

Okay that's deffo a bake issue then, I'll note it down

[empty bobcat]

btw. you are first woman I know who mapping 😄 that's real cool 🙂

[obtuse arch]

did you do full local bake?

[cobalt cipher]

Yep, maybe I didn't package it properly

[empty bobcat]

ok, later I see black walls too

[next hinge]

Did you also only learn to play doom eternal by the 70th hour, or am I the only one?

[empty bobcat]

let's skip it for now than

[empty bobcat]

what you mean learn? Learn to play a game or idStudio?

[obtuse arch]

My first playthrough was on Nightmare, and that was pure hubris, I should have started on UV, took many hours to learn haha

[next hinge]

Learn how to play the game

[next hinge]

Hah

[cobalt cipher]

Yea it's all part of the same issue, I'll see if I can fix it! Lmk how you find the rest of the level's gameplay once you've hit the end point

[empty bobcat]

I played normal or UV, don't remember. And than on nightmare. I'm not git gud. Nightmare is challange for me and UV I'm deatch incarnation 😄

[obtuse arch]

packaging/uploading is brutal, I want to upload an update to my level, but it fails every time, hoping a patch will come shortly

[empty bobcat]

I've just died in totem encounter 🙂

btw. when encoutner begins one door closes and immediately opens but there is arena portal to prevent player to walk out

[cobalt cipher]

I don't understand, sorrY?

[empty bobcat]

this door - when encounter with totems begins - they are closing, and after they closed - they opens again.

I should learn more eng than spending time in idS 😄

[cobalt cipher]

Huh, they should lock 🤔 I'll look into it, but at least the barrier is there to stop you

[cobalt cipher]

Hey no don't worry! You're doing brilliantly

[empty bobcat]

yes, that's I thought - cause it looks cool when they closes

I like this idea with totems 🙂

Maybe it would be cool to have save/checkpoint after Marauders kill

[cobalt cipher]

There is a reason why there isn't - because if you leave the marauder encounter on low health / ammo / armour then you're potentially screwed forever

But if you get a chance to beat the Marauder again and come out of it better, then you're not soft locked.

But that's just my justification, if the feedback is consistant with other people then I'll look at changing it

[empty bobcat]

ah, your are right. I'm dead again 😄 I forgot what skill I choosed XD

[obtuse arch]

I died a bit on UV, I will give it another go a bit later, haven't beat a master level since like 2020 so I'm out of practice

[cobalt cipher]

No worries! I appreciate you having a go, thank you very much! Let me know if a second attempt goes any better!

[cobalt cipher]

Which difficulty are you playing at btw?

I've playtested it and beaten it on Nightmare, so it's definitely finishable - but I have the advantage of knowing how every encounter goes, so I don't need to science it

[empty bobcat]

I don't remember which I choosed :/ I think UV, but feels like nightmare

[obtuse arch]

This is an issue I had making a rebalance mod for Doom 3, once you know enemy spawns too well, it becomes very hard to playtest your own mod

[cobalt cipher]

Yea! Exactly why I'm handing it out at this stage so I can get a gauge for if I've made it too easy or too difficult

[cobalt cipher]

You can check in the settings!

[crystal path]

Man I kinda wanna.....do something music related for modding for DE. Not exactly metal genre but if you've played a SEGA genesis....that soundchip can do some very unsettling sounds for instruments xD

as well as Sound effects

[next hinge]

moderators, there is nothing in this photo that can violate the rules of this server

[empty bobcat]

UV

You like marauders I see 😉 in here

[cobalt cipher]

We love marauders

[hasty oyster]

is there a way to show metrics or numbers? testing damage stuff, but i just diej too quickly to get input. i need ot see the damage

[cobalt cipher]

There must be a debug command you can run, but I'm not sure what it would be. You'd have to check the wiki

[empty bobcat]

well, it was hard for me 😄 but I did it 😄 but I'm not git gud

[cobalt cipher]

Nice! Congrats, and thanks for playing and providing feedback!

[obtuse arch]

"boben"

[muted bobcat]

ill happily play it and give some feedback!

[cobalt cipher]

This community is so nice aha 😅

[obtuse arch]

google translate is either drunk or this is nonsense

[oblique dirge]

Does your map have any special things besides being a master? Lvl

[cobalt cipher]

How do you mean?

[oblique dirge]

Does it have any new things in it? The level didn’t originally have

[cobalt cipher]

Yes! But that would be spoilers 😅

[oblique dirge]

Hmmm ok

[obtuse arch]

It has some different stuff right out the gate

[plush thicket]

@cobalt cipher I played the your level, the combat pretty good love it so much ,I like the use of the marauders in second big arena but I think you should add checkpoint after the marauder fight then trigger the second wave, I wanna ask you a question did you full baked the map before you package it ??

[cobalt cipher]

Thank you so much!

The checkpoint, are you referring to the marauder fight before the Totem encounter?

I did perform a bake, but I'm wondering if I didn't package it properly or if I baked it on a low quality setting. I'm going to look into that tonight and hopefully get it patched.

Can I ask you a question - How did it compare to other master levels, if you've played any? Was it easier, harder or just right?

[plush thicket]

The combat It feel like official master level combat, but about baking you don't need to fully baked the level when make a mod like this all you need just build the triggers in the build wizard, I think you bake the lightmap here, but ambient nodes it not working in your mods because they need to be added after you bake the light maps, if you see in this pic these area looks kinda washed, like this in pictures, because the texlod ambient nodes not working

next time, you make a master level mod for any level create a layer for it and put all stuff you add like encounter manager,commit trigger,user flag trigger,spawn group.

when you edit the devmenuopt decl but your master level layer in active layer

If you need help feel free to ping me, or dm me

[cobalt cipher]

I couldn't get the purple goo to appear in the map without baking it - but perhaps I was doing something wrong! I will definately DM you when I look at it later this evening (BST) or tomorrow!

[cobalt cipher]

Thank you so much 🫡

[plush thicket]

For these stuff all you need just rebuild collisions

Yeah when try to build a trigger, collisions, volumes go to world edit/build hover over the build it show you all these stuff

[cobalt cipher]

I will bear that in mind! This was early, early days for me in the devkit when I was trying to do that.

[plush thicket]

Yeah, I understand, learn the idstudio will take you a while I was lucky I was in alpha tester group I got these tools very early

[cobalt cipher]

Oh shoot really! Nice! I'll definitely come to you for even more advice in the future then!

[plush thicket]

There will be a demo for my level gonna try to release it today, can't wait to show you guys my 6 month of work

[cobalt cipher]

I will certainly play it whenever it comes out! Looking forward to seeing what the Pro's do!

[pearl junco]

https://github.com/FlavorfulGecko5/WadToBrush/releases/tag/alpha2 WadToBrush Alpha 2 is out

[obtuse arch]

6 months!

[cobalt cipher]

@plush thicket

[plush thicket]

mhh, I think there a dynamic shot clip there, I think it bind to the cage thing, that hide Kalibas eyes, but from what I see this clip won't move with the cage thing can you check what kind of clip is that, you find it in the clips refmap, I will check in my end

[oblique dirge]

Yo you see my map

[plush thicket]

I did

[oblique dirge]

What did you think

I know it was mad bugs

[plush thicket]

visually look's amazing, but you need to rework the combat

[oblique dirge]

Oh yeah, I made a cut scene by myself

[plush thicket]

Nice

[next hinge]

No, it's just that in Russia it's sad.

[oblique dirge]

My map is gonna look way different the visuals are gonna look even more better

There will be different parts of the arena, lava and acid and blood

There will be a lot of cool details so much that people might like the visuals instead of the combat😅

[plush thicket]

If you can see there a player clip, I think the projectile hit it, can you check if this brush material change to another type of clip

[cobalt cipher]

Nope, still Player Clip

[plush thicket]

that weird, can try to change the material again in these brush

[cobalt cipher]

Change the Player Clip to something else you mean?

[plush thicket]

can you try monster clip for example

like select this brush, search for any material

you don't need to build after you change it

[cobalt cipher]

Only changing the material yes? Not the actual clip type?

[cobalt cipher]

No change, unfortunately

[plush thicket]

mhhh

[cobalt cipher]

I just moved them out of the way and the projectiles are still colliding into something

[plush thicket]

Let me test by myself

[cobalt cipher]

Okie dokie! Good luck, and thank you for looking into it! 😄

[plush thicket]

Can you try to remove this clip brush entirely, but make a backup for mod, we don't want to break another thing, we need to make sure it happen because that thing

[cobalt cipher]

Just completely delete the player clip?

[plush thicket]

yep

[cobalt cipher]

No change 🤦🏻‍♀️

How do I find the projectile it's firing? Maybe it's something to do with the settings in there?

Because the player's projectiles still work fine

[plush thicket]

Mhh, I think the last thing you have to do, send me your mod folder maybe I will figure it out

[cobalt cipher]

Sure thing! This mod file is like 12gb btw which feels bloated, what do I actually send to you?

[plush thicket]

Make sure to make a backup, remove the generated folder

[cobalt cipher]

do you need the dvdpc folder as well? That's just the package right?

[plush thicket]

only the base folder remove the generated folder from it

[hasty oyster]

i think im giong to have to scale back my caco's because i want to already move onto my next mod. First ill be doing the classic noble trio (Hell Knight, Baron, Ogre). They will be all the same. Right ther eisn't a way for someone to expand on a mod and make it better?

[cobalt cipher]

https://tenor.com/view/doctorwho-hi-gif-7297611

@shadow venture I was holding off reaching out over something potentially silly again but something seems really weird and I promise you, I have no idea what's causing this

I've not done anything to this arena yet at all. All I can tell you is that it works fine on a blank mod but as soon as collisions are built it breaks.

[karmic musk]

https://tenor.com/view/dooku-star-wars-looking-foward-been-looking-forward-to-this-gif-18360410

[brave wadi]

Here's a weird one. Map start teleport prefab doesn't do anything, but map maykr start teleport prefab plays the animation as expected. Is the other prefab no good?

[plush thicket]

unfortunately it not gonna happen today, tomorrow for sure

[karmic musk]

All good either way 😄

[hasty oyster]

bvfiles or wahtever it is. thats what imploding my mods with files of garbage

[empty bobcat]

Are there curves in idStudio? Like curves (Bezzier's curves) in QUAKE 3.

[empty bobcat]

How add selection to new refmap?

[tight hinge]

the logic entity is not working properly in that one

the things that are being referenced have different ids

[brave wadi]

Gotcha. Do you know how to fix it so that I can have the normal teleport animation? I tried just changing the FX on the maykr prefab, but the orientation of the animation is wrong. Maybe I can load up hell on earth and copy from the map?

[tight hinge]

I think a better solution would be to send you my prefab for it

[brazen jacinth]

would mods from nexus installed with the modinjector still work? or are they all completely broken now with the new version of the game?

[tight hinge]

Some might work others might not

[brazen jacinth]

ah so ig i just have to get lucky then

[tight hinge]

yeah it's a coin toss

[brave wadi]

That would be great! You can DM me if you need to. No rush or anything. I spent a lot of time trying to figure this out last night. So I greatly appreciate the help

[tight hinge]

Sure thing, how is your progress on your level?

[brave wadi]

Thanks again! My level is slowly coming along. I'm working on the first arena. The block out, collision, and encounter manager are mostly done. Working on the traversals and art next.

[valid yacht]

Hey you legends! Just throwing this question into the round:
Are there any links to resources that need link-whitelisting?
Or are we golden so far?

[brave wadi]

https://idstudio.idsoftware.com/

https://wiki.eternalmods.com/

These are the only two links I've needed thus far.

[prisma vector]

I have a question about idstudio. Can I turn doom slayer into my OC?

Zekar Galapollo

[valid yacht]

Ahh cheers!
Should anything come up that needs whitelisting, we can most certainly look into it.
Just give us a ping you champions

[brave wadi]

Will do! Thanks Kex!

[prisma vector]

Nevermind I could

[obtuse arch]

Unrelated, but are staff aware that there are some issue updating mods sometimes?
I consistently have random files fail to upload, and there is no option to upload individual files when updating, you have to do they whole batch, if a file fails you have to delete and start again.
Thank you!

[cobalt cipher]

Is there an official bug reporting page?

[valid yacht]

We can't assist with anything beyond this discord server, im afraid.
As we are only volunteer mods, helping out in our free time.

But known problems are listed here:
https://idstudio.idsoftware.com/known-issues

[valid yacht]

That is a good question honestly, i was just browsing but couldnt find anything that is dedicated for idstudio

Would be super dope to have something like a github page

[obtuse arch]

You can send crash reports, but idk if there is official bug report somewhere

[prisma vector]

is anyone convinced that this is part of the official doom eternal mods?

[valid yacht]

Hey @modest obsidian or @shadow venture (sorry for the ping),
but maybe you absolute legends could give us some pointers on how to report bugs/problems/issues/feedback regarding idStudio?
As i couldn't find any official way to do that on https://help.bethesda.net/ or https://idstudio.idsoftware.com/

Would greatly appreciate it

[prisma vector]

It came from the bethesda website

[valid yacht]

Will inform the admins right away, that should absolutely be whitelisted!

[obtuse arch]

hahaha

[prisma vector]

whitelisted is that a good thing?

[valid yacht]

The link @prisma vector posted:
https://mods.bethesda.net/en/doometernal/details/1d2961c8-ff41-4e1e-8a8a-b62901e1ca7e/SteamHappy_Slayer

[obtuse arch]

that is an important mod

[valid yacht]

For context, all links except the whitelisted ones are blocked on this discord.
Otherwise we would be flooded, daily, with malicious links to phishing/scam websites.

[prisma vector]

Kex?

Are you able to make custom playable characters in doom eternal?

now that it has mod support?

[empty bobcat]

Custom? Like not slayer and not demon?

I'd like to edit slayer walk speed and height step

[prisma vector]

I mean turn slayer into another character

[empty bobcat]

Funny thing. I'm building some map and I put just like that archvile, but I didn't build nav and... he is alive 😄

I used template from my previous map, but I deleted everything, nav too 😄

[glacial schooner]

not exactly mod but how to i bind a key to inspect animation? i wanna use it for some GMV's im wanting to do, i need the command strings for current build DOOM Eternal and DOOM 2016

[obtuse arch]

Archviles are beyond the confines of id Tech 7

[empty bobcat]

I was seriously suprised. I spawned by him waiting as he instantly die, but instead he made a shield and start attacking me 😄

[hasty oyster]

so one of the caco's launches a ice bomb, but it really doens't go far. I been trying to increase the range but not succefful. Is there something i am missing?>

[empty bobcat]

Ice bomb - cool idea. What about dragon breath 👀

And blood dripping from the body. There was such eye in gzDOOM if I good remember. It was leaking when flying 😄

Do I good remember shadow texture works like caulk?

[empty bobcat]

Guys - can we make Bezzier's curves?

damn, he is realy tall!

[oblique dirge]

How are you guys

[oblique dirge]

What’s this for?

[obtuse arch]

This is cool, seeing a more domestic looking area in Doom Eternal

[hasty oyster]

well eventually i want it to freeze the player but THAT is something ill have to figure out on a latter build. I need to get this out and start my Baron and Hellknights.

i need to learn blender AND i will need to make the OG cover demon because why not?

it will be a hell knight variant

[south wasp]

It doesn't seem like curved brushes/patches are in use anymore

[empty bobcat]

https://tenor.com/view/yes-excited-gif-22851753

[empty bobcat]

how make than rails and other stuff like that?

[south wasp]

It's a shame, they're handy for blockout/prototyping

[south wasp]

models/meshes

[empty bobcat]

I don't want waste time making them in blender 😦

[south wasp]

I'd suggest you use existing ones in the game

[empty bobcat]

yeah, I take whatever I can 😄

I used curves for terrain, arches and flats in DOOM 3/QUAKE 3

[south wasp]

Yep, it's definintely a different workflow when compared to something like Doom3/Prodeus. From what I've seen, the pipeline very much seems like Level Designer does the blockout, Env Artist covers it in awesome meshes without messing up the flow too much.

No more 4-sided cylinder railings haha

[empty bobcat]

yes - it's not like QUAKE or prodeus where one person made a whole level and gameplay

[south wasp]

Nope. Env art, lighting, effects are all full time jobs to produce a shipped Eternal level

[empty bobcat]

that's I meant - it's not one person map, this is team to make a map

[obtuse arch]

This doesn't surprise me after trying to add decoration to my tiny map, it is an enormous task

[south wasp]

Nope was meant to be in agreement, that no it's not like quake anymore 🙂

[empty bobcat]

I spent two days putting decals and models on my little last map 😄

[obtuse arch]

I was thinking today about how many of the most popular TF2 / CS:S maps didn't even have textures and barely any models, like this one

[empty bobcat]

yo! 😄

[obtuse arch]

That was literally my favourite tf2 map haha

[empty bobcat]

ah, I thought it's your blockout in DE 😄 I'm not familiar with TF2

[obtuse arch]

oh no that's not my map haha

[plush thicket]

almost done just testing some stuff, gonna drop the demo very soon

[cobalt basalt]

im making an ultrakill map, this is what i have so far

[empty bobcat]

looks cool

[oblique dirge]

LOL I love it

[full sedge]

Coming along very nicely, nice job! (in similar endeavors, I'm trying to replace Doomguy with V1)

[oblique dirge]

🤨

[oblique dirge]

Nice

[empty bobcat]

XD

I forgot to check this grass has no collision I hope 😄

yes, I forgot to switch off collision XD

ok, maybe it's a bit to dense

[obtuse arch]

Pink fleshy man scares me

[lusty pelican]

I've seen a few maps that requires the use of a console command to load. This generally isn't a good idea because it will overwrite your latest save. You can make it so players only need to create a new save slot by following this guide.

Full guide here:
https://wiki.eternalmods.com/books/0-idstudio/page/how-do-i-create-idstudio-mods

[plush barn]

Omg this is amazing, are you going to make the entire stage? Is it possible to make a new mob from scratch for example: V2 boss fight would be so cool..?

[plush barn]

"recreation I meant btw"

[brisk mauve]

That's very impressive, ngl and very "helliflyingly" awesome.

[plush barn]

I would definitely play this mod and it would be insane with a lot of quickswitching skills if there were V2 boss fight

[brisk mauve]

oh yeah that's very true.

[hasty oyster]

why are cusotm codex entries not sticking to the codex? after it place it in it disapears after saving

[brisk mauve]

It's a glitch in the matrix.

[hasty oyster]

okay, so no custom codex till bug fix?

hmm, some times it works ... strange

[cobalt basalt]

Ive tried messing with custom ai and managed to import the model of a stray but the only thing i managed is to crash the editor in ways i dont even understand

maybe i'll try when i have the map finished

[hasty oyster]

yah i need to learn that, are u attaching or using a base zombie or anyting?

[cobalt basalt]

ive tried using a imp as a base and doing a new ai, and both crash the game and the editor

[hasty oyster]

does it crash without using the custom skin stuff?

[cobalt basalt]

i didn't test without the model but any of my attempts only gave me crashes

[hasty oyster]

i woudl try just getting your imp copy to spawn first

[cobalt basalt]

ill try that

[hasty oyster]

basic cheat sheet ive been using for myself, THere is a lot more too it but it kinda helps

[oblique dirge]

https://tenor.com/view/dog-blown-away-blown-back-gif-22009589

[cobalt basalt]

thx

[hasty oyster]

imp has a LOT of parts too it, cacodemon is much more simple

[cobalt basalt]

ooh, thx(again)

[hasty oyster]

ur just goni to need ot look at every part, inherit and connect each properity

[cobalt basalt]

thats why i want to make the level first, is easier

[charred frost]

Looks very cool, i was waiting for someone to port an ultrakill map into doom eternal

[plush thicket]

THE DEMO HAS BEEN RELEASED

[halcyon stratus]

Any tutorials on how to make the Automap work?

[halcyon stratus]

Playing it rn. Really enjoying it so far.

[vague bronze]

I just played the demo and I am very impressed. But at the arena after the platforming section, the game just brought me back to the main menu in the middle of it, is it a bug or is it just the end of the demo? (It did it for me twice)

[plush thicket]

No it actually the end of the demo, I forget to make it a smooth transition

[vague bronze]

https://tenor.com/view/sigma-gif-10192275506264900776

Ok, but awesome level btw, very nice

[cobalt cipher]

I will give it a run tomorrow or over the weekend!! What's it called?

[glacial schooner]

I wish i had enough space on my computer for the whole thing, i would love to create a map pack for DOOM Eternal

[plush thicket]

Levitation - Ascend v0.4 (Demo)

[glacial schooner]

hey if i can get the stuff running on my computer anyone wanna help me with my map pack? I'm in no rush so i won't set a release date until we're 90% done and just need finishing touches and i don't mind delaying i just really wanna get into level design

feel free to dm me ^^

also is it possible to add custom soundtracks into a level or do we have to use select tracks from DOOM Eternal?

[cloud glade]

is it possible to add doom mods on xbox?

[glacial schooner]

not yet, since this whole mod support thing is still in preview it may be a while until xbox or playstation get support or some form of workshop, i imagine a small team is working on it like maybe 10 people at most

[cloud glade]

dang well if they do add a workshop or something then ima be happy for like some custom maps and stuff

[glacial schooner]

even though i don't play on Xbox anymore, i would be so happy to see console players play custom maps but for now it's not possible hopefully ID software or even bethesda gives us updates on mod support every once in a while but with the Dark Ages coming out next year it could be a while

[cloud glade]

yeah although once the dark ages comes out ima be spamming that chainsaw shield🙏

[glacial schooner]

i feel like the chain shield will have a cool down on some of its functions but yeah same XD

[cloud glade]

if they add the little cheats into the game like in eternal ima be unstoppable with the new weapons🙏

[glacial schooner]

that'd be cool

[cloud glade]

fr

i got a good screenshot btw

[glacial schooner]

nice!

[cloud glade]

new wallpaper

still making more in the game

[glacial schooner]

nice , i usually make GMVs or well i did but i deleted them cause they were trash, once i get my skills back up i'll start making em again with better editing and such

[glacial schooner]

this is still an offer up if anyone wants to contribute or help out in anyway so dm me if interested

[plush thicket]

Check the id studio docs it have tutorials

[glacial schooner]

i saw a playlist of Tutorials on youtube

i just wanna collab with peeps that's all ^^

[plush thicket]

That will be cool, pretty sure alot of people will like that

[glacial schooner]

maybe you'd like to join?

[plush thicket]

There 2 other project other then my map sorry i can't, but feel free to ping me or dm's if you have any questions about maps

[glacial schooner]

ok well since i have your attention for now i must ask cause i've been dying for an answer, can you import custom soundtracks on maps or do you have to choose between tracks already in game

[plush thicket]

Yes you can

[glacial schooner]

awesome!

[plush thicket]

Going to sleep rn cya

[glacial schooner]

ok! cya around!

[maiden mica]

gore

nice work

[oblique dirge]

ty

[oblique dirge]

yo you up can i ask you someing

[oblique dirge]

Do you know how to make lava hurt you? I’m gonna try to figure it out for my flying thing.

[empty bobcat]

no, I haven't touched it yet

[oblique dirge]

Dam I need to figure it out

I looked on the wiki, but it’s very little information

[polar nexus]

i tried ur mod and it looks better than i expected 👌🏾

[brazen jacinth]

just played it, easily one of my favourite and probably the best map so far, good job! super fun too, but my only real problem with it is that the arenas are quite dark, so it can get hard to actually see the demons. making it just that little bit brighter would be really nice

[tight hinge]

Salami men cookin

[obtuse arch]

I think you need to use a Volume, but I'm not certain.

[tight hinge]

Can confirm you need a volume for damage

[oblique dirge]

I think it looks fine

[oblique dirge]

What do you guys want in the map

[final python]

What happened in here?

[atomic bay]

@ galapagos02 asked what people want to see in the map, and @ CORY standard-internet-humourly responded with "[I want to see] na­ked wo­men [in your map] 🤩" (unless there was a very bad message in between that I didn't see). There was at least one deleted message later, but I don't know what it said.

[final python]

I was pinged here, but I guess another mod took care of it

[atomic bay]

That was probably the "deleted message later", then.
(Thank you, mystery moderators/administrators. We appreciate your work. 💙)

[tight hinge]

3p is third person

there are different anims for third person (used primarily for multiplayer)

[obtuse arch]

Fully clothed demons

[oblique dirge]

Did I do something wrong?😔

[oblique dirge]

I got you

[oblique dirge]

What do you mean be volume though?

[obtuse arch]

To make lava damage the player, I think you need to look in New Entity->Volumes

But I'm not sure, might be some other way

[oblique dirge]

I’ll try when I get home

[hasty oyster]

going to finish my codex for the caco's and upload hopefully this weekend. ill have to add the elemental effects at a later date since I am having trouble making it work

and there is a lot to add and do. Ugh

[obtuse arch]

Does anyone know if there is a way to combine multiple brushes into a single brush?

Or is my only option to group them>

[runic moth]

if they are on the same grid size and are capable of being merged, LSHIFT + M will merge the brushes

[obtuse arch]

yeah I tried this and it doesn't work for some reason...

[runic moth]

It means your brushes are incompatible with being merged, the more cuts your brushes have, the more likely they cannot be merged. Additionally, all brushes being merged must be on the same grid size. CTRL + G will snap the selected brushes to whatever grid scale you have selected

[atomic bay]

See @ id_Dylan's response - but note that you can't combine those brushes. Brushes must be convex, so you can't combine brushes forming an inside corner.

[obtuse arch]

I guess they are incompatible

[obtuse arch]

I see, ok thank you both for your help

[runic moth]

BTW if you're trying to make a perfect circle or octagon or whatever, idstudio has options to streamline this. Under the "Brush" tab in your world editor you can make a selected brush have any number of sides, and make it hollow. The edges of the hollow brush will also snap to the grid size selected.

[hasty oyster]

so the ice bomb, i gave it to a cacodemon. it lobs when it fires but i need ot increase that range. Anyone have ideas? it must be some setting with gravity or i dunno...

[runic moth]

Unsure if you already knew that but it looks like you manually created that hollow shape

[obtuse arch]

Yeah I made a large 30 sided shape, then a slightly larger one which I hollowed out, so the shape itself should be what I want, just wondered if I could connect all the brushes in a clean way

[tight hinge]

you might need to create a new ice bomb template it and remove anything that has to do with gravity

[hasty oyster]

I did iherit/copy so it woudln't effect the players. I had to add damage to it which does work now. However yah i can't seem to find the property that effects gravity and/or its range

but it isn't unlikely that i am blind. So many properties are obvious once i find them

I see range, but that doesn't seem to change anything - propably because it is effectd by gravity. I need to change the laws of gravity for this one object

[obtuse arch]

Relating to my earlier issue, you can select several brushes and then change the entity to a single mover

[glacial schooner]

anyone wanna help me figure out a name for my map pack? in fact anyone wanna help me with my map pack in general? a sort of collab? dm me if interested!

[tight hinge]

could you send me the raw decl file?

[hasty oyster]

sure i can do taht when i get home. there is a projectile and projectil_ent decl i beleive

[tight hinge]

only the projectile one is needed

[obtuse arch]

request for this alpha image to be an emote pls, it brings me great joy

[plush thicket]

Want to ask anyone who play my map how the performance in the map,like the fps ??

[oblique dirge]

I can get 400 so your fine

[empty bobcat]

What? You have 400 fps? What rig, what res?

@plush thicket how to pass those laser barriers? I'm shooting this red trigger but it doesn't work.

ok, got it

[plush thicket]

This part has been reworked

[karmic musk]

Aw man, I need to play this when I get home.

Reminds me...Would be cool to have a resident evil type of laser room.

[empty bobcat]

I like how you handle music.

[polar nexus]

one question, how long did u spend making an entire mod? the one u uploaded recently

[empty bobcat]

And how long did you bake it?

[plush thicket]

it been like 5 months, I reworked alot of parts in this map

[plush thicket]

30 min's

[empty bobcat]

not terrible

I thought it took much more time

[plush thicket]

High quality settings, I also baked the shadow culling, And add the ambient nodes

[polar nexus]

30 mins isn't bad but 5 months is nearly a half a year

good effort 👌🏾

[glacial schooner]

man if it took you 5 months to make one map it'll take a good long while to make my own map pack, btw do you have any suggestions for a name for my map pack? i kinda wanna make it story driven like classic map packs similar to plutonia

[plush thicket]

you can make a map like in one week, or even less, but I try my best to make look the level like an official level, I pay attention to details

also spent alot of time balancing the encounters, logic entities, puzzle parts

[glacial schooner]

maybe, but i wanna make sure my map pack is challenging but balanced

btw is it possible to make custom cutscenes or no?

[empty bobcat]

yes, Saleem's map starts like that

[glacial schooner]

awesome!!

[glacial schooner]

does anyone know how to bind the weapon inspect animations? i saw how it's a command but the command doesn't work for me

[hasty oyster]

all my codex entries just got wiped out, not sure what i did

in fact my8 entire codex strings or whatever the fuck they are called ... gone

[halcyon stratus]

Worked wonders. The end result is phenomenal.

I only really wished the last arena on the cradle didn't box you in with invisible walls. Other than that, loved it.

[hasty oyster]

speaking of mapmakers, i need to change all cacodemon spawns to randomize a new cacodmeon. I was told it is under idTarget_Spawn. Is that something found in map settings?

[glacial schooner]

nvm got it working

[wanton flint]

Quick question, do I need the correct Revision of Update 6.66 to play certain mods?

[plush thicket]

You go to ur idTarget_spawn, go to targets add a normal cacodemon id2ai, and your custom cacodemon idai2

[plush thicket]

Switch the beta branch to pc-mod-review

[empty bobcat]

not great, not terrible:

[empty bobcat]

Can we somehow make brush Phong shading/smooth shading?

[empty bobcat]

XD

[empty bobcat]

guys do you know how prevent rain drop inside interriors?

[oblique dirge]

@plush thicket hey I was wondering do you need to use logic detect for a cut scene or can you manually

Cause I almost haven’t figured it out. I just need to know. To know that one little thing.

[plush thicket]

You need logic entities to trigger the cutscene, also to make it skippable

check the other level cutscene see how they work

[oblique dirge]

Ok

[oblique dirge]

Is there Barney chance you can at least tell me the logics that you would need to use?

Because I know there’s a large variety of them, but some of them don’t seem to do anything

[plush thicket]

bro, still haven't understand the logics entity for cutscene that much sorry, you have to look at other level cutscene and to copy them

[oblique dirge]

Ok Srry

[oblique dirge]

Sorry, one more question how do I make it where I can touch everything and super gorgeous everything‘s is group together

[plush thicket]

what do you mean by saying "gorgeous everything‘s is group together" ???

[oblique dirge]

I messed up typing it. How do I select stuff in super gore

[oblique dirge]

Do you know how to do that?

[plush thicket]

You must select the right refmap to edit, or there a shortcut hover in things you wanna select and hold Shift+Alt+Ctrl and left click, that automatically will select the refmap for you

[plush thicket]

No familier with gore nest cutscene stuff tbh

[oblique dirge]

How do I select it? It’s not letting me.

I can select everything else except for that

[plush thicket]

check the cinematic refmap

[oblique dirge]

Wdym 😅 Srry

[obtuse arch]

@simple moth love your classic shotgun skins, just wondered if you planned on doing something like a classic chaingun where it is all silver?

[oblique dirge]

oh ok i got it

I just don’t know how to make the cameras move

[empty bobcat]

@simple moth how did you change slayer walk speed in your mod? It's just great!

[hasty oyster]

so my entire codex strings fucked up my mod, i cant read antyhing, its all messed up

i need a way to restore it

to factor settings

[wanton flint]

Is there no way too keep your save data when you switch to the pc mod preview?

[hasty oyster]

this is all there is in the string editor. Nothing works in game now

[hasty oyster]

many hours of work just went poof

DO NOT EDIT STRINGS, this is your warning

I tried adding codex entries for my cacodemons, and it must of fucked something up

going ot have to convert all my shit over to a new mod, which i will not be doing anytime soon.

I think im just going ot start a different mod

[fickle glade]

Is anybody having problems with downloading things on the mod portal? I keep trying to download new maps but they rarely progress past 1%

[hasty oyster]

well temp solution is to not pack strings and remove codex for the caco's

[fickle glade]

And no my internet is not the problem because I just reinstalled a game today and it's download speeds were fine

[empty bobcat]

you are not downloading some assets or in queue? I found last time when I was downloading in queue second assets pack just stopped in half, I had to restart launcher.

[fickle glade]

I've restarted the launcher many times at this point

Nothing fucking downloads properly

[simple moth]

someone already did that chaingun skin, I may or may not port it myself unless the person who made the original wants to port it themselves.

[simple moth]

if i remember correctly for most of the weapons there’s a base decl that you can set a movement speed value to whatever you want, chaingun has it’s own under “weapondatachaingun”, arbalest had it’s own in its weapon decl, dblade was a little weird and had its movement decl under “table”.

[empty bobcat]

but what about speed movement?

[simple moth]

everything I talked here was for movement speeds

[empty bobcat]

I mean player movement

[simple moth]

for almost all weapons there’s a base decl file that you can tweak the move speed for and it’ll effect almost all the weapons, but some like chaingun, or arbalest, or dblade, they got their own files for it.

[simple moth]

bruh

Im talking about player movement.

[empty bobcat]

ah, ok - so they are decalred in guns?

[simple moth]

unfortunately yeah, you can use 2 commands for it pm_sprintspeed and pm_walkspeed, and set those to about 16.66 or so to get a similar speed to my mod. So if you want a level you made to have that move speed you can just make your level do those commands when you spawn.

Problem is you will still slow down a bit when you use like full auto or like dblade or so.

[empty bobcat]

oh, thanks for info!

[simple moth]

ye no problem

@empty bobcat if you want kinda a basis for how to do it, on nexusmods I uploaded the same classic doom eternal mod, but you can download the mod file that only tweaks move speeds, unzip that, and using notepad (or better notepad++) you can take a look to what decls you need to tweak, so you know where to look in id studio.

[empty bobcat]

sure, can you send me a link?

[simple moth]

i gotcha

[hasty oyster]

all i wanted to do today was upload my mod. Just imposible now. Every time i try to test it i get a black screen

[empty bobcat]

did someone find texture or model for such metal sheet?

[hasty oyster]

i even tried loading up other mods i made and im still getting the black screen

if i unistall idstudio will it delete the asset packs too?

[empty bobcat]

I'd better make a copy

you will make copy faster than download it ;/

[hasty oyster]

well yah but making a copy would be torublesome since it is already 400gigs

[empty bobcat]

I know

last time I wanted make a backup via usb adapter on 2,5" hdd it said me 15 hours

[hasty oyster]

jsut sucks that i can't load up my mods in testing. i dont know what happened

[empty bobcat]

ah, nah, I was wrong - only 15 hours:

[hasty oyster]

well it says 102gigs required, looks like the assets are stored some place else

[empty bobcat]

I built my own trapezoidal metal sheet

[fickle glade]

Myhouse.wad in Eternal?

[hasty oyster]

going to upload a mod, someone please dl it and see it it works. I had to pack interesting things to make it functiall.

[hasty oyster]

published, see if it works for yall becaue the mod luancher lieks to slap

me in the face sometimes

[midnight hedge]

Is it possible to edit the single player campaign encounters? I want to add some custom monsters to the sp levels.

[brave wadi]

It works!

[hasty oyster]

thats good, thanks

[empty bobcat]

You are real Caco Master, Zemini

[empty bobcat]

Can we convert brush to model? It was something like this in DOOM 3 if I good remember.

[prisma vector]

Not sure.

[empty bobcat]

I built very complex brush model and game freezes for few minutes when I want to manipulate it :/

I'll cut it for smaller pieces

[prisma vector]

Bummer that sounds like it. Freeze crash etc.

[empty bobcat]

🙂

I guess those bolts detail killed that

[prisma vector]

Must of.

You gonna have a train, tram for the player to use? Or just scenery?

[empty bobcat]

Player will be walking here, but probably in parts with tense grass I remove those bolts.

[prisma vector]

Ok

[empty bobcat]

looks cool

[pearl junco]

All future versions of WadToBrush will be integrated into my fork of Ultimate Doom Builder. Currently porting over my existing code and I'm already seeing powerful results....I can now generate brushes for any complex sector floor/ceilings. Not to mention I no longer need to worry about all the different wad formats and can simply program one convertor for them all. UDB's codebase is quite powerful

[empty bobcat]

awesome!

[valid yacht]

All https://mods.bethesda.net/en/doometernal/featured-Links should work now (Added to the Discord Link Whitelist)

[karmic musk]

"Warning, the slayer train has entered the facility."

[obtuse arch]

Does anyone know how I could add a "wave counter" to the players UI?
Something where a trigger would cause the number to tick up +1? 🤔

[empty bobcat]

construction without details ready

meueheheheheh

I hope I saved that 🥲

[obtuse arch]

it really does crash a lot...

[empty bobcat]

Yeah 🙂 but it was my first crahs for 3 days 😄

map saved 🙂

[split thunder]

Dear Modding community,
I and my friends highly appreciate the efforts all of you are putting into giving the doom eternal player community content which is making this game truly eternal but I would also like to address an issue we are facing in regards to playing most of them which is not being provided a proper platform to address the issues when playing mods or in short terms a proper feed back system. So far the solution we can suggest in regards to that is either give your discord info on your mod page where people can private dm you about their problems or a better option would be to make a google doc forms where you can ask questions regarding difficulty or what improvements can be made regarding the encounter and that helps modders keep there privacy intact as well and hopefully give them more insight into the minds of the player community which in turn for sure help them make better mods in the future.

[obtuse arch]

I totally agree, and also hope that some kind of comments system will be implemented in future such as can be seen on Nexus Mods or ModDB

[oblique dirge]

Will do!

[prisma vector]

Id studio team got smaller since most went to work on dark ages.ATM trying to schedule for patches. Probably won't be anytime soon.

[quasi dagger]

Pretty awesome! You should consider adding support to export to original Quake format as well (and map things to entities if possible).

[noble coral]

bro what

isnt that from a school shooting

[prisma vector]

Yeah not cool.

[polar nexus]

that kinda reminded me of hello neighbour

[fluid hatch]

Yay i fixed it.Now id studio works like it should, still freeze and crash tho. Anyway i can now use my Linux mint pc with my 7950x, 32g of ram and 6900xt. Amd 5 platform, screw you microsoft windows.

[oblique dirge]

nice man

[wanton flint]

Umm, I tried the pc mod preview and now Doom Eternal refuses to load completely when I am starting with 3 mods (Brawler Mode, Custom UI Color Pack and Campaign Tutorial Remover in that order) I checked the FAQ and couldn't find anything on this issue. Help is appreciated

[prisma vector]

Can you try removing the mods to see if doom starts?

[wanton flint]

The game is still not loading even with no mods there

Is it cuz of the old mod loader I have?

[prisma vector]

Hmm try steam validating files.

Oh the mod injector? I would get rid of that if using PC preview. But I never used that.

[wanton flint]

Aight I'll do that and validate files

[prisma vector]

OK worth a try