eternal-modding

[hasty oyster]

not sure what that means. But all 5 of them inherit from the OG caco so right now do the almost the exact same thing. You can easily change their projectile and its effects, damage, HP for each ... at least I think you can. I will be back at these later but right now i am trying to make the OG hell knight using parts of the gladiator skin(s).

[empty bobcat]

I see id use a lot of additional lights in each area, open or close. I used additional light to light up dark shadowed places on my map. I don't know how probes, work but as manual says you use it after full bake.

But still don't understand what do they do. When I was deleteing probes on ref maps there was a slightly difference with lighting, but when I put a new probe light and delete it (without any bake) it didn't take any effect.

looks awesome

what are these stairs? I need some for my map, but I couldn find.

[empty bobcat]

great thanks!

Oh, I see you did checkpoint? How did you make them? My don't want to work.

[dark swallow]

Cool

[tight hinge]

there's three things you need to make a checkpoint, a trigger, a player start and a layer change (whatever it's called)

[empty bobcat]

yes, but it doesn't work for me, I had to screw something.

[tight hinge]

did you give it a checkpoint name?

[empty bobcat]

no, I don't remember that

[tight hinge]

you might need that

inside of layer change

[empty bobcat]

one sec I'll fire up idstudio...

ok

so, I did like in manual:

and it doesn't work

[exotic badge]

Set checkpoint name

And do this for the very first player start

[empty bobcat]

so this player is initial:

and here I put a name:

[tight hinge]

correct

[empty bobcat]

should the trigger reffers somehow to the checkpoint name?

[tight hinge]

no need

[empty bobcat]

so what for we had to name checkpoint layer?

[tight hinge]

just put inside of the targets the name of the layer_change

that is required if you load a level from a new game for example

to specify which checkpoint you want to load

[empty bobcat]

ok, I'm bit confused 🙂 Let's check it

YEAH! WORKS!

so the different was only to name this checkpoint layer, and set the "first" player as initial!

[tight hinge]

the inital one isn't necessary per se but you should put it

[empty bobcat]

Thank You guys! @tight hinge @exotic badge!

[tight hinge]

it's the checkpoint name that is needed

[vital lichen]

Ooh neat. I thought you wrote a custom ai from the grounds up and I was wondering how you did it

[tight hinge]

usually you use another demon as a base for custom AI

otherwise you would spend months making one 💀

[empty bobcat]

this is checkpoint map, maybe it will help someone 🙂

[tight hinge]

yeah always good to have community prefabs, they are very useful

[empty bobcat]

I'm making tutorial maps for myself, cause probably I forgot how did I do that tomorrow 🙂

awesome, I learnt two things today 🙂

[tight hinge]

these can also be imported into other maps as a prefab btw

its awesome

[hasty oyster]

oh no, that is beyond my skills, i can barely make custom AI function in GZDOOM and even then its janky

im just giong to be making many variants of hell knights, caco's and pinkies. The biggest project will be making the 2016 summoner. I might be able to inherit most of the archvile for it, but ... not sure. the AV and Summoner do have a lot in common on how it works at least

[tight hinge]

While I like the idea of elemental versions of demons, what difference would they have in gameplay?

[hasty oyster]

well im working on that, but yes it will be more than visual differences. Giong to take some real skill to change some of their attributes. But Ice: immune to ice bomb, ice attacks slows player down for a few seconds (purple goo like), changes to the HUD display, maybe the ice bomb even heals the caco or enrages him. Fire: immune to flame blech, fire attacks make slayer vulernable (take extra damage for a short while), hud changes. Just some of my idea's

[night heath]

looks great. How do I access it???

[tight hinge]

Hmmmm that's a neat idea

[exotic badge]

You can find it in the mod browser

[tight hinge]

I can help you with these if you need

[night heath]

no I mean like inside the game

Its still downloading for me

looks like its a big map

[tight hinge]

I made the Cybercaco, shouldn't be too hard to implement those

[hasty oyster]

yes you did! i looked at him in idstudio to learn how to implement a new monster thanks

[exotic badge]

About 1gb

[night heath]

hmm, ig my internet speed is slow

[tight hinge]

wait were you able to import the .pk5 there?

[hasty oyster]

yah sorta

[tight hinge]

oh shit I thought you couldn't do it yet

[hasty oyster]

you can't i had to download the nexus ZIP and import in idstudio.

[tight hinge]

oh that version is a bit outdated

[hasty oyster]

yah, but its all i had to go bye

[tight hinge]

but that still works as a base

my version had custom gore

same with lean manc

[hasty oyster]

yah cant wait to inspect all the updated ones. I learn best with seeing how other do things

[tight hinge]

custom goreContainers were a mess

the studio needs to generate a binarygorecontainer file otherwise it doesn't work properly

[hasty oyster]

what is the gorecontainer again? I made green bloodied hell knights and i can't remember

[tight hinge]

gorecontainer specifies all the gorewounds of a demon

[hasty oyster]

like the chunks that fall off? or whats left over on the model?

[halcyon stratus]

I'm so happy to see new mods being uploaded on a daily basis.

[oblique dirge]

Fr

[tight hinge]

gorewounds hide the mesh and then spawn destructibles

[hasty oyster]

i have like 10 mods i need to finish, each one bigger than the last

[tight hinge]

destructibles are the chunks

[hasty oyster]

idStudio will keep me busy till TDA

[tight hinge]

yeah seeing the community pop off is awesome, wish I could work faster on my level too

will take me months probably

wanted to build a full prequel level between 2016 and Eternal, maybe even a whole DLC

[oblique dirge]

Good thing’s take time

[tight hinge]

yeah I know

[hasty oyster]

we do need a DLC for the events between the games. I have always had hope 2016 would get a mini expansion with the final boss being the Blood Priest Nilox's guardian.

2016 assets in idstudio would def be welcome too - but probably a very TALL order

[tight hinge]

yeah I wanted to make a level explaining how he got out of hell and how he got the fortress of doom

[exotic badge]

Has anyone imported the models into editor? I did it but material is missing. Tutorial does not help

[karmic musk]

Did samuel hayden send him back to hell via portal at the end of 2016? I thought he was just locked up by the tethers that samuel hayden trapped him in.

[tight hinge]

I think he gets sent to hell

[karmic musk]

would be cool to see a continuation after that interaction regardless

[karmic musk]

makes sense, its a teleporation system he's on.

[tight hinge]

My idea was he is meant to go to hell and while he is in hell something unexpected happens, he gets teleported by an unknown entity (intern) back to earth except he fucks up and puts you into space

[hasty oyster]

my guess sends him back to a sentinel world that has been absorbed by hell. From there he finds a star destroyer (or whatever they are called) and that becomes his new home/hub

then he hunts down the first blood priest guardian

[tight hinge]

In the base game he says it's an honor to finally meet you personally

So we don't know how he even knows him

Think it would be a neat idea

[empty bobcat]

lol - my whole DOOM became blank black

I had callphone and when back and wake up screen I got this

in game is total black

[hasty oyster]

i had that happen on retail, maybe a graphics card pooped out for a second.

[empty bobcat]

yeah, probably - there in the corner is group of pixels that working 😄

ha checkpoints work 🙂

@exotic badge your map is real solid and I mean gameplay, geo and how you manage with all functions! Best of all maps at now in handling all functions.

[normal badger]

definitely the best so far yeah (though, maybe I have a soft spot for the E1M1 remake)

[tight hinge]

Would be sick if he made a full level from it honestly

[normal badger]

I think the length is fine, not everything needs to be 30 minutes

or an hour

I think the only real feedback I have for it is the lighting, and the super linear layout, it'd be cool to have more open maps where you can get key cards and stuff 🙂

[exotic badge]

Thanks you all guys, glad you like it ❤️

[normal badger]

or at least layouts that loop in on themselves

[empty bobcat]

E1M1 looks awesome.

[normal badger]

but not every map needs to be that either lol

[exotic badge]

Yep, next time I'll try to do something with ambient light. Idt how to find it

[tight hinge]

yeah more non linear levels would be pretty good

I was going for 3 different directions you could take or something

[halcyon stratus]

I'm going for a nonlinear map for mine.

[normal badger]

yeah I was looking for it and couldn't find it, I guess the only option is to do it more manually with point lights that have a low lighting level

[halcyon stratus]

I really like classic Doom's progression.

[normal badger]

my original plan was to remake one of my doom maps, but honestly, I'm more interested in messing around with the possibilities now

[empty bobcat]

OMG I didn't know you can kill Marauder with berserk! One hit!

[normal badger]

yeah

that's what I ended up doing because I didn't feel like fighting two at a time

[exotic badge]

I didn't know too 😄

[empty bobcat]

yeah, DOOM maps are cool, but in DE you can use new movents on total different style maps 😄

[reef citrus]

Grimy Waifu in DE when

[normal badger]

do you mean doom or doom?

[empty bobcat]

DOOM I/II 😄

[normal badger]

that fight is brutal if you don't save the zerk

ending off with two marauders is mean haha

[empty bobcat]

am I only one who hate Marauder's wolf? 😄

[normal badger]

no

[empty bobcat]

Yeeeahh!

[exotic badge]

Idk, It's fine for me. Just use this pattern: couple of shots, run, couple of shots, run...... 🙂

[normal badger]

I only have 100 hours in eternal, I'm not a difficulty guy lol

it is not nearly as hard as the world spear master level

[empty bobcat]

I played it on nightmare and it was tough, but I'm not gid gud

[normal badger]

the world spear masterlevel is messed up

especially the encounter with the spinning laser beam

[exotic badge]

it's really tough level..

[halcyon stratus]

I really need to look into model editing so I can make this happen.

[normal badger]

that looks awesome

[halcyon stratus]

Fuck, there's so many things I want to do and I have very little an idea where to begin.

[empty bobcat]

oh, is that deluxe version skin? That's fun cause I can't change to this skin in idstudio, but I got in vanila.

[normal badger]

why did they make the dev texture so detailed lmao

[empty bobcat]

probably used some random material with grid

[vital lichen]

I don't think I can keep up with modding by the moment :/

[oblique dirge]

Why

[vital lichen]

Hitting this moment of the year in whivh I don't have much spare time already. I think I will make a comeback in a couple of months

[normal badger]

how do you adjust texture alignment?

[exotic badge]

Here

[normal badger]

uhhh

I can't find that

[normal badger]

lmao this thing is unintuitive, the nudge doesn't seem to be doing anything

[exotic badge]

Yep, the first part of the panels in the Windows/Editor and the second part in the WorldEdit/Tools...

[normal badger]

but its not letting me adjust it

[exotic badge]

Are you trying change it on the prefab or brush?

[normal badger]

brush.

[exotic badge]

Hmm, it works for me

[normal badger]

no I want to adjust where the texture is

I want to shift it, to pan it

[exotic badge]

Hmm

[normal badger]

I want to move the texture, I want to use the trim texture like a trim

[exotic badge]

Now I understend

[normal badger]

I get it now

[exotic badge]

like this?

[empty bobcat]

you can also use shift + arrows when face is selected

there is no snap to edge I guess? 😦

[exotic badge]

WOW, thanks man, I din't know about it

[normal badger]

its really weird but I get it now

[exotic badge]

For selecting edges you can use Shift+Ctrl then click on the surface

[normal badger]

yeah

[empty bobcat]

there is no possible easy panning - like select and pan with mouse

[normal badger]

doing it in the surface thingy is actually not too bad

[empty bobcat]

I would like to see - snap to surface/stretch with surface 😄

[normal badger]

oh by the way, how did you split something and keep both sides again?

nvm I remembered: shift-enter

can you copy and paste alignment properties?

[exotic badge]

Select surface(Ctrl+Shift+Click) then click(midlle mouse btn) on another surface

Don't forget holding Ctrl+Shift when you're doing the second step

[normal badger]

gaaaah

the alignment keeps messing up and the texture just turns grey

that took way more effort than it was worth lmao

[hasty oyster]

izzy demon when?

not to forget about the hordes of flesh fiends, balrogs and those maggot beasts.

oh and undead knights and wraith like ghosts

but please no gloams, fuck those things

[empty bobcat]

oh, and I'm very happy with this pillar combined with hooks 🙂

[gaunt ether]

Looks nice af

[eager ginkgo]

are those model kits from nekravol asset pack

[normal badger]

attempt at some phobos type architecture

[empty bobcat]

I like the vibe.

[normal badger]

mars core is my favorite level, I love the techbase stuff

[empty bobcat]

Generally I like all maps, just some maps are a bit boring for me cause I saw them too much time 🙂 Like first part of exultia (I love it, but I saw it so many times). But hell part of exultia is one of my fav hell style.

[normal badger]

hey guys is there any way to rotate your entire selection by an exact amount of degrees?

like I have a bunch of shit selected that I want to flip

[exotic badge]

I guess you can use these fields when rotation is activated

[empty bobcat]

I use just "E" and shift when rotating objects, those all icons are so tiny I didn't even see that

sentinel kit has so many great models!

[normal badger]

found the exact material that matches with this mesh and its so satisfying

[exotic badge]

looks great!

[empty bobcat]

I'm setting stairs on the map 🙂

[oblique dirge]

https://tenor.com/view/capybara-let-him-cook-gif-11999534059191155013

[cobalt cipher]

It's me, I'm back. With another potentially obscure issue for me to eventually figure out myself a few days later 😅

[oblique dirge]

what is it

[cobalt cipher]

These are the options for the Maintain AI Count inside the Encounter Manager.

Presumably, this should respawn the fodder endlessly until it's told to stop with the "Stop Maintain" command.

But if I replicate these settings, nothing spawns.

They only spawn if I have a Max_Spawn_Count value higher than 0, but then the respawns are limited to that number.

Discuss

[oblique dirge]

hmmm

[cobalt cipher]

(This is from an Encounter Manager made by ID for the level)

[pearl junco]

Set max spawn count to -1 for unlimited respawns

https://wiki.eternalmods.com/books/5-level-modding/chapter/event-calls Here's the community modding wiki for encounter manager event calls

[cobalt cipher]

I hear ya, but that hasn't worked 😭 I'm reading through the docs and I can't seem to figure out why.

Helpful though, I had no idea this Wiki existed so thank you!

Hey @shadow venture, your bio said tagging is ay-okay! Any advice on this?

[pearl junco]

The modding discords would probably be the best place to go for encounter manager-related advice

[cobalt cipher]

Where can I find those? Could you DM me some invites if you're a part of them?

[karmic musk]

Messed around with the kits, specifically mars core for my theme. After blocking out a room/area and testing around until it feels good, I'll replaced the bsp brushes with actual kit models. Start of the level has you in a vent in which you drop down into this room.

[shadow venture]

Gecko is correct, -1 as the max_spawn_count will get you your desired result

[south wasp]

I haven't checked too many encounters from the SP maps, but is maintain with a max of -1 how the zombie/imp chainsaw fodder is generally handled for larger encounters?

[shadow venture]

Yeah, pretty much every encounter that has fodder maintained until all the heavies die or some other condition is met will have that.

[cobalt cipher]

Hey! Thanks for getting back to me! Any idea why this wouldn't be working in the Id Studio Mod Tools? All of the Encounter Managers with this set up appear to have the Max set to 0, so perhaps this is a bug with our build?

[shadow venture]

That's odd- I am not entirely sure why they would be set to 0 but I have complete confidence the fact that if you want to do it yourself you are going to need to use -1.

[south wasp]

Did you also copy over the spawn group that's defined in your screenshot?

[cobalt cipher]

Okie dokie, I'll try it again in the morning with fresh eyes but the -1 was working for me earlier is all!

I can always just set it to 999 if I can't get it to work the other way - that's not going to cause any performance issues I hope 😅

[shadow venture]

Inputting a large number shouldn't have any effect on performance. 999 isn't even that large in the grand scheme of things

If -1 doesn't work there is likely a problem elsewhere in the setup, or a problem with the build- hopefully not the latter

[cobalt cipher]

I have my own spawn group set. The maintain works with a number higher than 0, but doesn't with the -1 is all.

[south wasp]

ahh, gotcha

[cobalt cipher]

Yeah idk, the fact that all the other encounter managers on Nekroval have 0 set as Max kinda makes me suspect it's a build thing but that's complete guesswork.

As for the numbers, I'm glad to hear that 😅

[cobalt cipher]

Quick follow up - Just checked Exultia and they actually have the -1 set up.

So it's possibly an issue exclusive to Nekroval PT1 somehow?

I know you're a designer and not an engineer, but maybe you've got something to make sense of that idk 💁🏻‍♀️ 😅

[oblique dirge]

The map is almost done and then I can get to the AI and other things

[prisma vector]

I'm doing the I'd tutorial simple box map. I built it using slow map. But the engine tab is missing. How do I get the engine tab back?

[vocal moat]

my doom eternal modding doesnt work :(

every I drag and drop the mods into the active mods folder they snamp back into installed mods when I click off

[fickle glade]

Original map or map remake?

[empty bobcat]

Diablo 2 inspired map.

[fickle glade]

Oooh!

[stone terrace]

can you load multiple mods? ex: gameplay mod, map

[broken nest]

What would name should this guy have?

[vital lichen]

Doing great!!

[halcyon stratus]

Is this a custom enemy?

Neat if so, we haven't seen custom enemies or weapons yet.

[empty bobcat]

Cybones, cyberbones

[tight hinge]

boners

[empty bobcat]

that was my first thought XD

[karmic musk]

Boned

[thick sail]

https://tenor.com/view/bender-were-boned-were-fucked-up-gif-16162520

[empty bobcat]

can you confirm something for me, guys? Does idS and mod work only for deluxe version with both dlc, or it works with DOOM Eternal without addons too?

[oblique dirge]

Ye you can

[empty bobcat]

you got vanilla or deluxe?

[oblique dirge]

Deluxe

[solemn orbit]

How are people enjoying idStudio?

[empty bobcat]

for old DOOM maniac is like constant Christmass 😄

[bright bane]

I don't understand how to set up an encounter, and that pisses me off
I mean, yeah there is the documentation page, but it doesn't explain how to set up the encounter via script, it just throw me a bunch of commands which i don't know anything about

Otherwise, it's cool

[tight hinge]

Awesome, but still unfinished

It's a beta after all

[empty bobcat]

yeah, that's fun - there are function and just use them 😄 Gimme a sec and I'll make a simple tutorial map with encounter if you like.

[bright bane]

That would be very nice, but do it only if you want to, i don't want to annoy you

[empty bobcat]

ok, let's do it

[south wasp]

Good but doesn't run well on my home PC. Well, runs smooth until I start editing geometry, or adding entities, then it stutters and eventually freezes

Works fine on my work PC though

[brave wadi]

Loving it. Documentation could be better, but I'm building a custom level and having a lot of fun figuring things out and getting it working

[lavish apex]

Terrible documentation but so much fun to play with and see how the game works

[empty bobcat]

You should see QUAKE III official manual for radiant 🙂 (but it wasn't bad)

[empty bobcat]

you need to build in build menu: and slowbuild ofc

in encounter manager you can see:

remember you can spawn only ai you got this in that queue!

you can't use command spawn ai marauder - cause he is not in queue - so he will not appears

you can experiement with commands - you can add time all kill count

in this tutorial I'm spawning 32 max possible ai at once - so your pc can stutter for a 1-2 second (but probably depends on RIG)

[bright bane]

Wow, that was fast
Thanks a lot !

[empty bobcat]

tested, working

[bright bane]

Work for me too, but only on your map

I set up the encounter manager on my map, nothing happen
I probably have done something wrong when following the tutorial

I'll start again from 0

[empty bobcat]

you can make it exactly like in idS documentation, and than just set as you like in encounter manager script

remember to make nav for ai

you can copy everything from my map to your map - but remember about nav

also check don't you have by accident switched off some of those

[prisma vector]

@solemn orbit well it is beta so it crash,freeze,errors etc. But It's OK so far.

[solemn orbit]

Thank you all for your responses. My overlord will be pleased.

[empty bobcat]

THERE IS UPDATE!

[hasty oyster]

update? doom 2016 assets?

just giong to hope for the moon on that...

[empty bobcat]

for DE and idS about 150 megs

[hasty oyster]

prob bug fixes then, maybe next time

[empty bobcat]

yeah 🙂

[hasty oyster]

i ave reported almost every crash. Most of the time it happens when editing TGA files and saving them while they are displayed on idstudio

[obtuse arch]

@empty bobcat I played your Dead Simple map yesterday, I have a question if you don't mind. How did you trigger the walls to lower after the Mancubuses are all dead? Thank you

[empty bobcat]

I'll show you....

the walls are a one mover:

in encounter manager I used that:

[obtuse arch]

ah so when 8 enemies die the first trigger goes off?

[empty bobcat]

yes, I forgot there is a counter too, yes

if count 8 - do - mover goes down

[obtuse arch]

ok amazing, ill give it a try, thank you!

[empty bobcat]

Yesterday we talked about checkpoints - and it worked - I even made tutorial map - today I can't force it to work on my new map. Maybe because that I copied it.

[obtuse arch]

like auto-save point?

[empty bobcat]

yeah

on my test map works, on my new doesn't

[obtuse arch]

something must have not copied over...

[hasty oyster]

tonights project is to finish the caco attacks and try to add elemental effects. I wonder where i can "hint, hue, add watermarks" to the slayer hud. Like being hit by a frost attack and have your screen turn icy for a few seconds.

i also need to slow the slayer down for that duration. Or make him vunerable, or jsut do about anything i feel like. Depending on the element

[empty bobcat]

yeah...

[empty bobcat]

ok, now working, but I still don't know what was wrong.
How to prevent AI climbing models like this?

should I set it as nav?

[lavish apex]

you can add a monster clip texture, it will let you walk there but not let monsters

monsters also wont jump long distances unless you place traversals (info on wiki) so you might not have to do anything to prevent it

[empty bobcat]

yes, I know about clipping for monster (funny cause this model has clipping for monster) but I don't want build clip for each model on map.
Also I found after checkpoint respawn I can activate again trigger for encounter ;/ How to set trigger as ONCE only?

ok, found

the question is - if player dies - the encounter is still in game or it's over and I need to restart it from first script?

[lavish apex]

Im not positive but I think there's a way to create a prefab

[empty bobcat]

ok, looks like checkpoint store only info about player, all killed demons I have to kill one more time

maybe it worked like that in DE, I don't remember 😄

A little tip: more than one Archvile on map is a carnage 😄

I can't beat my own map 😄

wait a second - archvile can spawn marauder?!!!!!!

[eager ginkgo]

how do you guys even figure out skydomes 😭

[empty bobcat]

you can just use model (but I don't know how to set other texture on that) or copy from ref map

[pearl junco]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1271883689722118255/1278069254553468969/image.png?ex=66cf763f&is=66ce24bf&hm=96f9ef5101b843315dfaa69120556d29a650739c626bdeb62e74f8db1bdd7c32&

flat --> material2 exporter

[empty bobcat]

Guys, do you know how can I change skydome texture? Manual Material remap doesn't do anything.

[hasty oyster]

looks like im going to have to learn blender ... anyone use that here?

[empty bobcat]

donut build time

[hasty oyster]

yah .. but im going to make these eventually ...

really going to use the basic hell knight base, but i still need to add shoulder and chest "armor" onto the model

not to mention new texturing, which will be another challenge i must learn

also want ot make the alpha 2016 imps, but im hoping thse will get released IF we get the 2016 asset pack

[empty bobcat]

I liked this imp a lot!

[hasty oyster]

there he is, yes!

[south wasp]

That from the early e3 trailer?

[hasty oyster]

i would HOPE its model exists somewhere. Be a shame to purge it like they did with the 2015 QC gameplay demo they showed behind close doors while i was taking a ~dump dealing with other things

[south wasp]

Oh you know it's on a HDD somewhere haha

Guarantee the high poly's of older rage/doom3 or even early quake stuff would be backed up

[potent onyx]

a version exists on one of the MP maps!

specifically the one that has all the monsters inside the cryo tubes

[empty bobcat]

DOOM 2016 alpha was superior alpha, it had all models showed in preview, they didn't use those models in mulitplayer test, but they were there

there was imp, caco and cyberdemon for sure

[modest obsidian]

https://idstudio.idsoftware.com/release-notes Release notes for the build update today. This is the first hotfix for the DOOM Eternal Launcher and idStudio. This version fixes the login to BNET issue we noticed users were facing, and some QoL and other bug fixes and improvements to both the UI of the Launcher and idStudio.

[brave wadi]

Thank you!

[fickle glade]

Woo!

[hasty oyster]

so where do i change or add a monsters projectile?

[tropic oasis]

Is there a chance downloaded mods will be playable offline in the future? Sorry if I misunderstood something as I only did some reading so far, but it doesn't currently seem like the most robust strategy to maintain a library of mods and a modding community if it completely relies on the BNET login for years and decades to come (compare with e.g. Quake or HL2)
Edit: I guess the question is not relevant as there were some mods even before the idStudio release.
Anyway many thanks to everyone who made the release and documentation of these tools happen if you see this, and ofc everyone who made the base game!

[plush thicket]

it getting blooder here

[empty bobcat]

guys, do you know how to change texture on sky, I even did, but the texture is weird stretch on sky dome.

[hasty oyster]

so packaging my mod, i have to click every box or else it doesn't work. 2 gigs. it is what it is

[empty bobcat]

what's the difference in building nav if we select or not select in wizzard "flight"?

[pearl junco]

That is simply not true.

I know what mod you're talking about. It's possible there are some unique files needed for green blood - but I refuse to believe it's 2 gigabytes worth

How exactly are you achieving the green blood effect?

[hasty oyster]

yah ive had hate mail about it already

depends on what part, i replaced the hell knight wounds, stuff specific to the hellknight, ... BUT lots of FX had to be inherited and changed via color. Had to do the same for the gorekit and nuggets, then remap materials for that HK. honestly can't remmeber all the changes i made

[pearl junco]

So there are texture changes...alright that definitely will bump up the size for sure

But again, follow the packaging guide here https://wiki.eternalmods.com/books/0-idstudio/page/what-files-should-i-package-for-my-idstudio-mod - If you're just "clicking every box" and packaging your art folder, at a minimum you'll be doubling the size of packaged textures for no reason

[hasty oyster]

its my first mod since classic doom so i got more learning

learn good!

[pearl junco]

When it comes to packaging FX / gorekit stuff, there are definitely some unique files that need to be included beyond decls. I don't think those are documented yet in the packaging guide - possibly generated/cooked/ ? If you figure that out do let me know

However, for decls and textures, the packaging process is fully understood and documented on that wiki page I linked. For everything else - you'll have to do a process of elimination and search through the contents of the different folders in generated - try and figure out what files seem relevant, and which aren't

[gaunt ether]

shirt

[vital lichen]

Why does this happen

[broken nest]

YES! making this boi custom just trying to figure out everything lol!

question how close is this editor to idtech 4's editor?? could some tutorial from back then be helpful on this version??

[valid yacht]

Cheers! I can not express how awesome you guys are

[tulip horizon]

holy shit beating me to it

praying on your downfall

[empty bobcat]

wednesday

[vital lichen]

my dudes
it's wednesday of pink t-shirts at the office

[empty bobcat]

brush building is the same (plus vertices bugs)

[cobalt cipher]

I figured this out, incase anybody else needs this at any point!

Maintain AI's appear to stop when the encounter manager reaches it's last command. Regardless of the fact that it doesn't have a "Stop Maintain AI" command in the chain. Useful to know for those who are building and testing an encounter wave by wave.

[halcyon stratus]

So exactly what changed about the Bnet login for the launcher? It still asks me to log in again every single time.

[halcyon stratus]

Awesome.

[potent onyx]

started messing around with the map editor 👀 just trying to feel my way around it, takes a bit of getting used to

[plush thicket]

I see in maintainaicount in max_spawn_count you use 999, set it to -1 It will make the demons respawning infinitely, until you use the stopmaintainai eventcall

[cobalt cipher]

Hey! Yea that was my initial attempt to fix the fact that the Maintain AI wasn't working. The second screenshot is the current one, and is correctly functioning using -1

[plush thicket]

oh yeah I didn't see the pic in right

[plush thicket]

did you use group label because It will make your life easier you don't have to set the aitype in wait commands eventcalls

[cobalt cipher]

I haven't used those but I will give it a look, thank you!

[oblique dirge]

Yo can I ask you guys some thing

[gaunt ether]

not sure if you got this yet but here is how you can change it

pretty funny to watch lol

[hasty oyster]

i tried that but it didnt change. but my monster is unique AI that inherited from the caco

i htink it is in AI compenent, but for some reason that isn't doing it too

[plush thicket]

the background music 💀

[gaunt ether]

ahh i see, wouldnt know about it with changes to the mob itself, this is basically default only ig

[gaunt ether]

young thug - with them

[obtuse arch]

I have but a humble request, does anyone know how to trigger a level exit? Is there like an entity volume that triggers exit on entry or something like that? Thank you

ok i found it, it is called a "Level Transition"

you can connect a switch to it

[bright bane]

@empty bobcat i successfully managed to create an encounter 🎉

I just have one question : how did you enable the dash, blood punch, equipment launcher, etc, in your map ?
I don't see any command for that

If anybody knows, you can tell me

[oblique dirge]

That ez

[south wasp]

for testing:

For ship, I believe it was covered by saleem up above. IIRC you can add equipment on level start via a logic designer script. Haven't sorted that out on my end yet though

[oblique dirge]

Ty I’m busy

[bright bane]

Thanks a lot !

[hasty oyster]

ugh still cant change the projectile, getting frusterated

[south wasp]

change that to whatever you want

Have you verified your custom caco is the one that's spawning? it's not spawning the ai type your inheriting from, is it?

eg. custom caco spawning, not base caco

[cobalt cipher]

What is the name of the grapple hook asset/entity featured in TAG2?

(the thing you shoot the meathook at and go weeeeeee)

[karmic musk]

I'm trying to figure out how to change the state of two doors (front and back) of a room to 'locked' when a player crosses a volume and activate a encounter, and then changes the state of the doors to 'unlock' when all demons are killed/encounter completed. Does anyone have a good example/reference for that?

[cobalt cipher]

Yes! I do!
Okay so you want to look for the "Start Lockdown" command in the Encounter Manager. It will want a reference to the door you want locked

[empty bobcat]

it's made from two things, one sec I'll recall it...

and

[cobalt cipher]

Sorry I'm really bad at remembering to actually reply to people so they get a notification.

So read above.

The lockdown node should do what you want. It works on the energy barriers, so I imagine it should work on the doors

[empty bobcat]

but do you need to put those energy barriers by the hand, I guess?

[karmic musk]

nice, alrighty. I'll check it out.

[karmic musk]

I'd prefer to not have the demon barriers...if possible

[cobalt cipher]

You do, yes!

[cobalt cipher]

I'm pretty sure it works on any door-esque thing. If I recall, Nekravol only uses doors and not hell barriers, and they work the same way!

[cobalt cipher]

Wonderful! Thank you so much!

[empty bobcat]

I'm trying to make this scenario: 1 encounter - encounter 1 ends - save checkpoint and start 2nd encounter, 2nd encounter ends - save checkpoint and start 3rd encounter

[cobalt cipher]

Need advice? I've literally just made that so I can help you out if you want!

[empty bobcat]

oh, cool! I made something like that, but it do not working

if you can just copy encounters to new map and put it in here

with all linked entities

I can't finish my map because I want player can save his progress, but for now each time he back to start and first encounter

[cobalt cipher]

Show me what you have and I'll guide you in the right direction, I'm away from my PC atm making food so it will be a little while before I can make it for you

[karmic musk]

would i add a startlockdown node for each door? There's only 1 activation target. Sorry, I'm still trying to figure out encounter manager, scripting, etc....I'm more of a level artist trying to figure out this kind of stuff 😆

[cobalt cipher]

I think so - Unless there is a way to link all the door actors to one actor, and you send the Lockdown to the latter.

[cobalt cipher]

Also don't apologise, it's all good! It's what this community is here for!

[karmic musk]

thanks, ill test this out right now

[empty bobcat]

ok, gimme a sec I only set entities on map

what is the difference between Ctrl+J and Ctrl+K?

I'll check in keys 😄

[cobalt cipher]

J links and K connects.

I couldn't tell you why those two things are different though

[karmic musk]

didn't seem to work, do I need to link the door to the encounter manager perhaps?

[empty bobcat]

almost ready

[cobalt cipher]

I've ran upstairs to get some screenshots for you! Hopefully this helps.

1. You need a User Flag Trigger (found in Encounter - Trigger). Edit the User Flag variable to whatever you want to call it.

Connect these to the two encounter managers.

2. In your first encounter manager, create the node "Raise Event Flag on External Script".

The Encounter Script parameter needs a reference to your next Encounter Manager.
The Event Flag needs to be "User Event" and the Userflag needs to be whatever you called your flag.

Also (not pictured) add a "Disable Script Manager" at the end of the Encounter Manager, to make sure it doesn't trigger again when the player respawns.

3. In the next Encounter Manager, add a "Wait for Event Flag", set this to "User Flag" and then select the flag you made earlier.

Also not pictured - Trigger all of your encounter managers at the start. When the Userflag gets activated, create the checkpoint at the beginning of that Encounter Manager.

Sorry that's longwinded, I hope that can help! I will be more available later if it doesn't

[cobalt cipher]

Are you sure you are using a door and not a model?

[empty bobcat]

omg! Watching! I've just set encounter, but didn't test it for sure

[empty bobcat]

ok, studying

[karmic musk]

yes, these are doors added by new entity > interact > doors'

[cobalt cipher]

Show me the set up?

[empty bobcat]

oh! I'll back in while - it's not easy to set it, but I'm on the way by your guide @cobalt cipher

[karmic musk]

Sorry, I was looking at some examples on the base maps. I saw some interesting stuff with target/relays and such so I'm going to try those out real quick.

[karmic musk]

I'm not sure if anyone remembers the digital foundry video from awhile back. But it's cool to see idstudio being showed here. Lots of cool stuff with toggeling geo decals and such. https://youtu.be/UsmqWSZpgJY?t=415

[cobalt cipher]

Nice! Share with the group if you figure that out!

[empty bobcat]

I guess, I did something wrong 😄

[quasi dagger]

For some reason, I thought that was made with bezier patches 😂

Not sure if ID Studio has support for bezier patches tho

[empty bobcat]

Table editor? But I didn't touch it

[quasi dagger]

That would make it a lot easier for me to write a map converter tho

[karmic musk]

Okay, I figured out how to incorporate locked/unlock doors for a encounter. You will need a target/relay + target/interact_action for each action. In this case unlocking/locking

1. Create a target/relay node
2. Create a target/interact_action node
3. Click on the target/relay node and under 'targets' add the target/interact_action node
4. Click on target/interact_action node
5. Under targets, add the doors that need to be locked/unlocked during the encounter
6. Scroll down or search for 'Action', set this to locked
7. In your encounter manager, add a trigger command > activate target, place this at the top of the encounter so the doors lock.
8. In args > target, make sure this is set to the target relay for 'locked doors'

Repeat the above steps, but for 'unlocking' the door after the encounter is completed
Added steps for this in encounter manager:

1. Add 'Wait AI remaining: 0' at the bottom of the encounter script in encounter manager
2. For the Activate target for unlock doors, make sure it's at the bottom.

[quasi dagger]

Never heard of that, but I've been thinking of writing a map converter from different Quake-based engines for Doom Eternal, so I need to investigate the file formats and everything

[karmic musk]

@cobalt cipher figured it out 🙂

[cobalt cipher]

Brilliant! Nice work! I'm saving that now so I can refer back to it later!

[quasi dagger]

Does anyone happen to know anything about the .map format? Is there any documentation about it?

[karmic musk]

Did my basic art pass and got he encounter setup for the ambush area. Glad I figured out how to lock the doors in this area. 🙂

[cobalt cipher]

Looks great! Can't wait to play it!

[karmic musk]

thanks, lots of stuff planned but I think it should go quicker the more I learn idstudio lol

[cobalt cipher]

Oh yea likewise! I'm currently working on a Nekroval Pt1 Master Level and I think I'm finally at a point where I can get through it quicker now! I've literally only "finished" the first zone today

[karmic musk]

Can't wait to play that!

[cobalt cipher]

I'll let you know when I'm ready to playtest! I think I'm going to aim for the first tests to be once I've completed the Kalibas fight! Which I'm aiming to have done by next week!

[karmic musk]

Can't wait to see what you do for the Kalibas fight, for some reason I always get beat in that arena. Those pain elementals....

[cobalt cipher]

Oooooooh you're gonna hate this 😅

You gotta cheat it slightly, weaken all the turrets without destroying them so you can take them all out really quick and not get harrassed by the Pain Elementals - but that's the only advice I'm giving 😅

[karmic musk]

aww jeez

[south wasp]

Has anyone noticed a way to set the move gizmo to use local rotation, not world rotation?

Trying to work out how some of the shipped geo was snapped together while using arbitrary rotations.

[cobalt cipher]

The ' key

[south wasp]

ah ha, thank ya. I couldn't find it anywhere in any menu's

[cobalt cipher]

However, it's buggy. If you duplicate a rotated item, it's local rotation will become identical to the world rotation

[south wasp]

Hrm, interesting. Will def keep an eye out for that

[cobalt cipher]

Yea it's frustrating! I don't know if it's a bug that can be fixed or only happens occasionally. I'm mostly doing gameplay design so I've not have to move stuff around too much

[south wasp]

Gotcha. I just did some random test to duplicate some geo and it seemed to work fine. Guessing I'm doing it slightly differently, or it's not 100%. Guess I'll find out in time

Any idea how geo like this was placed accurately?

The meshes aren't snapped to the grid, however they are aligned relative to each other.

I could imagine building the section on grid, then rotating/positioning them as a group, but that's not at all ideal.

Taken from e1m4_boss

I know GZDoom Builder has variable grid rotations and such, allowing bridgeburner to commit all kinds of crimes, but I'm not familiar with anything similar in radiant... idStudio

oops, aged myself hah

[hasty oyster]

Cacolantern WIP, will aslo add textures to all horns and teeth. Used something from the internet but im going ot change it to a etenral texture

looking at tiles right now, anyhone have suggesetions for somethjing molten in fire?

[cobalt cipher]

I'm not sure, but what does the "Align work plane to selection" option do?

Ignore the arrows - I took this image from the documentation

[south wasp]

oh snap (pun not intended), aligning the work plane does the trick

[cobalt cipher]

Neat!

[south wasp]

Aligned vs default

Alrighty, it all makes sense. The catwalk in question was built at a rounded angle (30 degrees). So presumably the workflow is to place your initial mesh/entity, rotate it as desired, then build from there based on it's rotation.

[cobalt cipher]

Makes sense! Glad it worked 😄

[south wasp]

Yah, worth noting, the align work plane button will be greyed out if you have multiple entities selected. That's why I missed it originally I think

[obtuse arch]

Does anyone know how to get music working in a custom map? (For some reason the main menu music just continues playing) thank you

[fast plaza]

You need to place a music entity and change the state in an encounter

[shadow venture]

I would generally recommend going into the entity properties on geo like this and turning the player and monster clip off on the entity, and then using brushes with the clipNoAreas or monsterClipNoAreas material to make a simpler, smoother shape resembling the geo (that would go in the nav group). Doing that is what helps prevent the player and AI alike from getting caught on geometry and giving the game that "Skate Park" feel without anything interrupting your flow in these situations.

[obtuse arch]

thank you for the response, I will try this tomorrow as it’s late now, it’s one of the last things I need to add to my map

[hasty oyster]

i found a texture i like but is there a way to extract it as it is in the preview?

[hasty oyster]

Next stage of caco evolution. lots more to do

[gaunt ether]

nice

[empty bobcat]

Great thanks for advice! I thought about this, but it's lot of work now (I should do this on the start and just copy, now I got so many object to fix 🥲 ). Hail to id!

[prisma vector]

thats sick

[quaint moth]

hi guys i notice that for some reason the usage of ram on the editor will jump almost to 80 thousand then it will crash is anyone else having this i have 128 gigs of ram and all i have done is a add a model of earth building and a floor and then boom ram shoots to 80 thousand

[prisma vector]

Wow that's a lot of ram. Not sure why but editor will crash,errors etc.

[quaint moth]

yea its super crazy

one thing i noticed that drops it back to more usable is if i move one of the windows in the editor

then goes for 65000 to 17000 but if i dont then it goes to 80000 then crashes

super strange

ohh and it repeats

so if i dont move a window in time i am screwed

[prisma vector]

Weird.maybe try a different layout.

[quaint moth]

will do i was using id default

ill test the others but def some mem leak of some sort

[prisma vector]

I like I'd standard. But the editoressed up on me again, where I can't use it right.

[quaint moth]

also is there anyway to open editor without opening doom eternal

[prisma vector]

Probably hope I'd fixes it soon.

I don't know, maybe they do.

[empty bobcat]

I got most crashes when I got Preview window active

[empty bobcat]

what do you mean? If you run only idS from steam you need to make a new mod project each time, so it's for now best idea run it from the launcher. Running idS doesn't mean you run DOOM - you run engine inside the idS.

[quaint moth]

where is the laucher part of the file

cause i been doing from steam then opens the editor then doom eternal starts playing as well i wasnt sure if this was normal i come from doom 3 editor days when we got into editor via console cmd

lol

ok i figured out what you were talking about thank you now to just gewt this dang mem leak solved

ok further testing id og was the reason of the leak not sure why but standard works like it should

[empty bobcat]

you ofc opt in beta, right?

[agile lily]

Any mention of mod support for PlayStation?

[atomic bay]

[...] IIRC you can add equipment on level start via a logic designer script. [...]
You should use Devmap Inv Loadout instead. Despite the name, it gets used whenever you load a map without an existing inventory, whether starting a new save slot or using the map command (which doesn't preserve your previous inventory).

Every vanilla devInvLoadout from E1M3 and onwards includes the "ability_dash" item. If you want the player to start with everything (and the Sentinel Hammer), simply make the map start with E5M3's devInvLoadout. You can also make or edit a devInvLoadout in the Decl Editor if there's no vanilla devInvLoadout with the exact weapons/upgrades that you want.

[prisma vector]

@agile lily ATM its steam/PC only.

[halcyon stratus]

Man, that Praetor Ward level.

Is it only me or you can't grab onto... anything?

[oblique dirge]

Guys, I haven’t been getting much progress on my map to the school this weekend. I will show some progress.

[tight hinge]

looking awesome, let me know if you need help with stuff

[halcyon stratus]

Okay, so this Praetor Ward level looks decent, but gameplay wise it's really rough. Poor collision, no runes, way less crystals and suit abilities than you need to get by, enemies randomly dying from getting stuck on geo and ledges, overall awkward arena design, etc.

The description states it's the author's first effort at working something out with the editor, so I'm not too pressed about it. What bothers me is they expect proficiency from the player with close to no tools and force them to work around unreliable traversal. Kudos to them, but I'm skipping this one for now.

[tight hinge]

Currently reworking the intro part of my level, still needs some work but it's starting to get some shape

[brave wadi]

As someone that's currently making a UAC base level that looks super ugly. Do you mind if I ask where you're getting your assets? I've been pouring through the browser folder by folder. I found those consoles. But where did you find screens that display stuff? Or that teleporter thing? And lastly, how did you make that door frame have a green light? Mine doesn't light at all and I just realized that it should lol

I'm not sure if my asset browser skills suck, but I find it takes longer looking for models than it does doing anything else

[tight hinge]

I got those assets from Mars Core

Mind showing what you got so far?

[brave wadi]

Are you going into the Mars Core level to grab stuff or just the asset browser folders?

I'll post screenshots when I get home. I'm currently at work. I basically just have 2 rooms made out of brushes with some consoles and office chairs to the sides. So visually it's not great.

Most of my time thus far has been on the first encounter. I have the doors lock, music state change, portal animation with sound effect, baron charges through and some other AI spawn. After the encounter, doors unlock and checkpoint triggers. So I got the gameplay for the first room done, but now I need to make it look good. Then I'll continue to expand the level.

[tight hinge]

Going to Mars Core level directly. Also you are right it does look a bit bad rn. Might have to change more

[brave wadi]

Wait, I said my level looks bad. Not yours. Yours is looking great.

[tight hinge]

Oh lmao I misinterpreted

[brave wadi]

Yeah no, I'm jealous of how good yours looks compared to mine lol

[tight hinge]

Btw to answer your questions, for the teleporter I used a bunch of models, don't remember the exact ones tho. For the green light you get one light model and you change the emissive color and emissive scale

[brave wadi]

I'll try going into the Mars Core level directly when I get home to find some stuff.

Okay that makes sense. I will play around with the lights when I get home.

Thanks for the help! I really appreciate it. And again, your level is looking great! I look forward to seeing what you do next.

[tight hinge]

I'm actually still debating whether I should making the lighting red or not, but I'll have to test it once I get home

[brave wadi]

My lighting plan is to do some rooms white and some red. I'll probably do some blinking red too. (you can create a logic info entity and set up light fading through nodes in the logic inspector) My first encounter room is white and when the encounter starts the encounter manager turns the white lights off and turns red lights on. When the encounter ends the encounter manager turns the red lights off and the white lights back on. I think that's a pretty cool effect

[south wasp]

Neat. Was def going off the name and assumed that for ship there was something separate. That's much more straight forward though. Cheers!

[slender iron]

tracing the gm construct map with brushes for navmesh 😷

Still need to do some roofs and underground bits

[tight hinge]

The definition of pain in one image

[slender iron]

It's been hours

[tight hinge]

brush gaming

[hasty oyster]

tonights goal is to package like a genius and not like a idiot. If only I kept track of every decl i altered

[south wasp]

Wouldn't modified ones be saved to your mod dir?

not sure if it creates a copy if you edit a base game decl or not though

[tight hinge]

are you creating new ones or replacing?

[hasty oyster]

mostly replacing or iheriting from the OG

i had to edit the base ones for the green blooded hellkngihts, since some demons shared the HK's explosive effects such as the whiplash blowing up into green mist

so i gave the whiplash the gargoye FBG(or whatever) thing ... lol

[tight hinge]

well if you are creating new cacos there's no need to replace stuff

[hasty oyster]

yah nothing has been replaced or edited in caco's, its all inherited from the monster.

[tight hinge]

oh gotcha

so new decls for materials, projectiles, etc?

[hasty oyster]

Yes, but it does say inherited from the cacodemon/whater/decl. That shouldnt be a issue right?

I havn't figured out projectiles yet, it will not let me attach it to the actual caco i need it too. I looked deeply into your cyber caco and you must of did something i can't see

[tight hinge]

Think not, that's how you are supposed to do it actually

To change projectile you need to go to the aiComponent_Cacodemon or something

[hasty oyster]

yah it gives me all the basic properties without having to put them in manuelly

Yes i changed it ot the imp fireball for all three "attacks" or whatever. Still pulls the cacoball out

[tight hinge]

projeciles also need a projectile_ent entitfydef

hmmm strange

[hasty oyster]

ill mess around it more when i get home, there must be someting im not doing correctly. I have a few theories thanks

[tight hinge]

you can always send me your decltree and I'll look at it

[hasty oyster]

if only i could open up idstudio at work! this work laptop can barely run doom 2016

[south wasp]

You got me curious. So I gotchu.

Don't edit the aicomponent for the caco, that'll apply to all variants of it. You want to edit the ai behaviors to override the default attack projectiles.

1. Check AI Component which defines 3 attack projectiles (pictured)
   2a. Create an inherited entityDef for each caco variant
   2b. Create an inherited behavior decl for the caco variant
2. Remap the projectiles in the behavior decls

tbf - dunno what the levels of caco bile does or how they're triggered. But I got a caco variant firing rockets without overriding the vanilla version

[hasty oyster]

thanks for the research, ill look more into when i get off work. Maybe ill just leave early so i can do more modding

[brave wadi]

I understand the urge to leave early to do some modding. I just keep re-reading the documentation during downtime at work lol

[hasty oyster]

i have the bank coming in for a "inspection", have to wait for that at least. But I do certainly have a sniffle ... i need rest

[valid yacht]

pro tip, change the file output format to .mp4 in OBS, so it embeds in discord*

[solemn orbit]

Out of curiosity, would making a status face mod be possible? I'd love to see modern Doomguy doing the eyebrow raise and everything else

[quasi dagger]

If it's only brush data, it should not be hard to convert the original map to id Studio's map format

[lethal plume]

if you can get the map file open in TB or Quark there is a path to idStudio through converting to a doom3 .map

[brave wadi]

@tight hinge This is my shame lol. Goal for the weekend is to work on the visuals for this room so that it's not just a box brush and a couple things here and there

[tight hinge]

not a bad start, one tip tho, use a scale_guy model so that you have a point of reference

room might be a little too large right now

[brave wadi]

Yeah the ceiling definitely has to come down. I'm spawning a baron in the room. So I need some space for him, but it's definitely too much right now

[south wasp]

Alternatively, add some verticality, use the space provided by that high ceiling

[tight hinge]

if it makes you feel better this is how I started lmao

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/1229883807537172623/1271931946963963944/image.png?ex=66d22eef&is=66d0dd6f&hm=3abc8f6ac21a5c1abb4ebc971314746afc81580bfc7e551b7d9ab71090a5f3a6&=&format=webp&quality=lossless&width=766&height=671

[hasty oyster]

AI Behavior -> DECL. That is what i was missing thanks. i really need better glasses

[brave wadi]

That helps lol. Btw sorry to ask again, but do you mind screenshotting how you got your door frame light? I have looked everywhere and I don't see it

[quaint moth]

Can guys recommend any good tutorials or are you guys just brutue forcing it ?

[shadow venture]

Back when I started, I too, started with a box There is no shame in your first box

[fluid hatch]

in more ways than 1 right Kroniid

[hasty oyster]

im starting with making new demons, its all i want to know at the moment. ive had my fill in map design for classic doom. I hope to finish my only megawad this year, its been 10 years in the making

[south wasp]

Box map, followed quickly by a recreation of your childhood home, then ???, then profit

[shadow venture]

By the way if you run into any more problems like this you can use the cvar encounterScript_debug 1 to view any running encounter scripts to see what step they are on and get debug information on them. If multiple encounters are running at the same time you can use Page up and Page down to swap between them. If your encounter ended early as it did here you simply won't see an encounter.

[hasty oyster]

able to change projectiles that exist. Creating a new one still escaping me.

[hasty oyster]

yes got it, it was under entity def, i missed that

now to give it elemental effects, hmm, not sure how crazy i can go

[empty bobcat]

There is no possible to unlock whole refmap at once in editor, right?

[cobalt cipher]

That's super useful to know, thank you!

[brave wadi]

I was up late last night turning my big ugly box into a pretty hallway. The pretty part is still underway, but it's getting there. This weekend I'm going to work on the next room which will be a big arena. Would it make sense to have the arena on a refmap? I want to keep the arena stuff separate from everything else to make it easier

[tight hinge]

I'd recommend having different parts of the level on different refmaps

Also inside of those refmaps I separate geo, navmesh, decals, particles, etc...

[brave wadi]

Okay thanks I'll go forward with the refmaps then. I've been using groups for the various things in my hallway so that I can easily ghost and hide things I'm not currently working on.

[obtuse arch]

Does anyone know how to play spawning FX (visuals and sounds) when spawning in monster AI? thank you

[bright bane]

Where are the health properties of the demons ?
I can't find them, not in entitydef, not in damage, not in aicomponent, ...

[obtuse arch]

is this it? i haven't tried changing it myself

@bright bane

[bright bane]

Well, i thought it was this, but the editor tell me that this property is "read only"
So, either i have to look somehere else, either i have to change some editors parameters

[obtuse arch]

hmm, all AI seem to have value of 100, so it must be 100% of a number defined elsewhere

not sure if adjust values here in behaviors/ai_name/default helps?

[tight hinge]

in the idTarget_Spawn entities there is a parameter that you need to update to AIOVERRIDE_TELEPORT or something like that

either there or on the spawn settings in the idAI2

[obtuse arch]

I will try this now, thank you

[bright bane]

Yeah, but does it have an health property ?

[tight hinge]

in the ai entitydef there is a health component

[bright bane]

Yeah, but when i try to modify it, it tells me that the property is "read only"

[tight hinge]

what about in the idAI2?

you should be able to change it there

[bright bane]

What is idAI2 ?

[obtuse arch]

under class it says idAI2, I'm not sure how to edit it yet, I'm gonna make a coffee then take another look

[bright bane]

Actually nevermind, the health property is editable, don't know why i cannot modify it earlier, but now i can

[empty bobcat]

I'm so sick for 2 days that I couldn't even make simplest encounter today morning 😦 I just can't focus 😄 @cobalt cipher sent me how to make checkpoints between encounters, but I can't force to work this. I hope I'll be better at weekend to back to this.
I was looking at horde encounter, but there is even combined logic (real complex built). I need some simplier to play with to learn. Would be cool if we could unlock whole map, cause searching in ref map for specific part of map is a bit hard specially if it unlock only part of gameplay. If someone has box map with simple horde encounter I'd be grateful.
I just want to make 2-3 waves and saves between those waves. So simple example would be fine.

BTW. how do you guys bake master/horde map? I mean what kind of bake do you use after you make some changes on ref maps.

[obtuse arch]

Is there no way to trigger a checkpoint in encounter manager?

[tight hinge]

you can use activate target on a change_layer

[empty bobcat]

that's what I did, I put in encounter manager Activate target (I'm not at home now), I don't remember. I did like this MAP07 - when I have Activate target and the walls go down. But with checkpoint it doesn't work.

[obtuse arch]

You could bind a commit trigger to a mover that is triggered by an encounter manager (its probably not a clean way to do it but it might work)

[empty bobcat]

yes exactly this - I just "show him" activate this, but looks like it doesn't work.

[cobalt cipher]

Nekroval activates checkpoints in the encounter manager, I recommend downloading and looking at that if you want to see how it's done

[empty bobcat]

I remember you said you work with nekrovol. I thought about check this too.

[cobalt cipher]

As for building changes to a base map, you will need to do a full light bake build (I can't remember exactly what it's called right now). They take a very long time and eat a lot of resources so I would recommend only doing so when you're sure you've got everything in place

[empty bobcat]

I got all assets downloaded.

[empty bobcat]

btw. did you make for this encounter some logics? I mean logic functions.

[cobalt cipher]

Otherwise you can preview your map changes using the slowmap command

[cobalt cipher]

I'm not sure I understand, sorry! Could you explain further?

[empty bobcat]

Sorry, my brain doesn't work great now 😄 I mean Logic Functions - did you use any of this combined with encounter did you show me last time?

I looked into horde map and in Logic Editor there were encounters scripts, but I didn't understand anything from that.

[cobalt cipher]

Oh I see! No I haven't, I'll look at doing it later if I have time to! Or at the very least making a flow chart so you can see the logic laid out easier

[empty bobcat]

I was real angry for myself today morning, cause I wanted make quick simple encounter + this what you showed me (I tried that 3 times already), but even simple encounter from manual didn't work for me.

😂

[cobalt cipher]

Progress takes time! It's all good!

So have you managed to get any sort of encounter working?

[empty bobcat]

I got only my basic encounter in my new hell map - it works like this: wave 1 - spawn weak 32 enemies, wait untitl count 32 (after this I put trigger layer, but doesn't work) after this go to 2nd script - spawn heavier 32 ai, wait for count 32 (checkpoint), and 3rd spawn badass ai and the same.

Everything works except checkpoints and music (I put there set music on start). Also I found when I spawn 32 ai at once I got stutter for 1-2 seconds.

I had stutters in my MAP07 in first iteration, but later I rebuilt encounter and this stutter vanish - so 12 arachnotrons spawn super smooth without any stutter.

But I don't know what was the cause of stutter in old version of my MAP07.

[bright bane]

Does the weapons have a anim rate scale, like the enemies ?

It's because i want to change the fire rate of the shotgun, but idk how to do that, i didn't find any anim speed related property for the weapons

Anybody ?

[tight hinge]

in the weapons decl there should be something related to delay after fire

[bright bane]

That, right :

[tight hinge]

yeah that

I haven't messed around much with weapon decls but you can definetly change fire rate

[shadow venture]

The encounters don't save part way so if you want to save a checkpoint you would need to let the encounter end, save, and then immediately start another encounter. Also you can avoid the stutter you got by using a Staggered Spawn Command

[obtuse arch]

Does anyone know a way to tell a sound effect to only trigger on first activation? thank you

[obtuse arch]

I also cannot get music working

[empty bobcat]

Great thanks for response!

[empty bobcat]

So, I made my encounter series like this:
1st encounter:

I used Activate Target trying activate next Encounter

the 2nd is almost the same:

and 3rd is the same as 2nd

It's from wednesday, I didn't implement in this version Kroniid sugestion yet.

[obtuse arch]

does the music trigger in your map at all? I tried something similar looking to this and it was either main menu music or silence

[empty bobcat]

no, it silence

[obtuse arch]

damn

[empty bobcat]

accidentaly I had menu music in my entryway

but I realized day after published, cause mostly I do not use music in games

[obtuse arch]

hmmm, I have tried lots of ways to get this working today, but nothing is working yet

I will take a look at your entryway level, I'm curious now and I love that level

[empty bobcat]

I just put music entity choosed a music. I need to check what music it should be there...

[empty bobcat]

This:

you see - there should be rip and tear music

[obtuse arch]

Yeah this is similar to what I did, set the initial state, then told it to active in an encounter

[empty bobcat]

and in editor when playing - I got no music, any, even from menu

oh wait! Maybe there should be sound volume?! I used sound volume for my new hell map and on entire volume I got nice hell ambient. Maybe it works similar?

Look:

and it plays this sound

[obtuse arch]

oh so maybe it has to be attached to a volume of some kind

[empty bobcat]

yeah, maybe, I'll try

[obtuse arch]

I like your entryway map, it's interesting to see the original maps made in much more advanced engine,
im gonna see if I can get the music working as well now

[empty bobcat]

You know that I almost delete it 🙂 I thought it looks bad cause wasn't 100% accurate as original. I started to build first map E1M1, but I was struggling with basics cause last time I used radiant was before 2010. So I switched to idea - build map with models. I thought it will be easy, but it still wasn't such easy as I thought. Also I had no template for scale and size for this map, and I was building it just watching DOOM II in a little window. When I almost finish it, I started to make MAP07, cause I didn't like this entryway. And than E1M1 came out on mod site and it was built same way I was building my entryway, so I decided to finish it.

Such entity doesn't work either:

[karmic musk]

Is it possible to change the challenges for mastering weapon mods? Like, lets say I want to change the 'destroy 25 arachnotron turrets challenge' to '25 mancubus cannons' instead?

In this case, for sticky bombs

[tight hinge]

should be a property you can change in the upgrade decl

[karmic musk]

cool ill check it out

[tight hinge]

either that or a perk

[obtuse arch]

I liked it, seeing the modern ceiling lights and caver like interior was cool

[empty bobcat]

It's intro map entity music on refmap:

just copying it on my map does nothing

[obtuse arch]

hmmm

I'm taking a break for a bit, been messing around with sound FX and Music all day haha

[empty bobcat]

I put music to volume but it didn't work

[empty bobcat]

yeah, me too

[karmic musk]

Anyone happen to know the models for the sarcophagus box and lid? I can only find textures for them...

I tried 'find entities' when I right click, but it doesn't look like material is tied to anything :/

[eager ginkgo]

isnt the sarcophagus made out of brushes

[empty bobcat]

which level is this model?

I thought it is at the end of dlc

[karmic musk]

It is....I checked DLC folder too since there were some assets.

Only other models I can find are the doom hunter ones.

[empty bobcat]

we have no assets for dlc (except those horde maps), so maybe we can't find it

[empty bobcat]

man, painting is so fun. I was realy happy when they added this to the snap map

omg I've just discovered Paint editor! What happens if we paint some asset? Is it replacing the original one?

[obtuse arch]

Does anyone know how to put grapple points for the meathook into a map? I found the model, but no entity ? Thank you

[empty bobcat]

I know... one sec

the model:
entity:

[obtuse arch]

oooooh ok, thank you, couldn't find the entity

[karmic musk]

I was trying to figure that out too. Thanks marine

[hasty oyster]

alright for projectiles, where can one make them heat seeking? is there a way to adjust how heat seeking it can be like in classic?

and is there not a way to test sounds? i know we can't add or edit sounds at the moment

[obtuse arch]

just tried this out, placed the purple entity inside the model, it works perfectly which is great cause I love these things

[lucid trench]

Guys i need help

Is this normal that the demons are like theses?

well to be precise, like theses

[eager ginkgo]

no 😭

[lucid trench]

Anyone knows how to fix that?

[obtuse arch]

that is very odd, does it look normal in the editor window?

[obtuse arch]

you can right click sound FX and click preview, but i dont think it plays the whole thing if it's too long

[oblique dirge]

Hey guys, I was wondering how to make a wave system with enemies I know I asked this multiple times but does anybody know?

[obtuse arch]

Do you know how to create an encounter with spawning enemies?

[oblique dirge]

no

I’m gonna make a demo for my map. I at least wanna have something.

[obtuse arch]

ok 1 sec

[hard tapir]

https://idstudio.idsoftware.com/gameplay/gameplay-framework/encounter-manager/create-an-encounter

[obtuse arch]

ty haha, yes take a look at that first

then you can add a trigger to the encounter manager a bit like this, tell it to wait until you have killed however many enemies, then add more commands to spawn more enemies, and so on

so the second section there, instead of "active target" you want to have more spawn commands, and so on

Does anyone know why my monsters have no particle/sound FX when spawning, struggling to fix it

[hasty oyster]

thanks

[night heath]

as someone who completely doesnt understand modding

wouldnt it be cool if someone made american flag gun skins??

i wanna complete my american set!!!

[obtuse arch]

the 4th july set?

[night heath]

yeah

but for guns

but with like fireworks if it was possible

[obtuse arch]

that would be a fun touch

[night heath]

or the eagle

[obtuse arch]

rocket launch fires eagles

[shadow venture]

On the target spawn entity you use to spawn these, there is a property that is called "AI State Override" if I am remembering it off the top of my head correctly that has a dropdown connected. If you select Teleport in this dropdown they will use the teleport spawn effect as they spawn in

[obtuse arch]

thank you sooo sooo much

[hasty oyster]

well as much as i try to package my green blooded hellknights. I think it is just that big. It will not work if i dont put in certian parts of it. im willing to accept a badly builty mod, but i will not remake it at this time. perhaps someone can look at it. also Packaging is much harder than modding for me

i did lots of trial and error, several hours in.

i have custom cacodemons and hellknights to make. They are going to rock!

[obtuse arch]

what do you mean by packaging ?

[hasty oyster]

packaging for uploading into the offcial mod browser

[obtuse arch]

oh, this is something i havent done yet

[hasty oyster]

yah its tricky. You have a 2gb limit so anything bigger will be rejected.

[obtuse arch]

oh no

im worried now haha

[hasty oyster]

i think if you package and go to upload, look at the bottom it should show you how big it is

[eager ginkgo]

wait what

so if u make a map that is bigger than 2gb, u cannot upload it?

[hasty oyster]

yep, we still live in 2014

[obtuse arch]

you can probably upload it to external sites tbf, like moddb/nexus

[hasty oyster]

lol just kidding

but yah every time you touch decls and stuff, it may or may not generate it under your mod. So you need to comb through and remove those from packaging, or delete them from your mod folder. That is part of the problem and many not be intended

[obtuse arch]

but unedited assets from the game shouldn't take up file space?

[hasty oyster]

It would be nice if packaging had a better way to only use changed and new decl's and stuff. Maybe it does that ... maybe it is user error because i am very NEW to this

[brave wadi]

Update on my box. It's looking better. The only brush visible is the floor. I also got the scale under control, scale_guy ftw

[obtuse arch]

All I have left to do is music, if anyone knows a way to implement music in a simple manner it would be greatly appreciated, somebody told me it's done using the encounter manager, but I couldn't get it working. Thank you

[oblique dirge]

Ty

[tight hinge]

ye looks better

I also updated mine a bit, changed wall and floor texture and made better stairs

[obtuse arch]

Can't wait to see all the maps/mods people come up with

[fickle glade]

My first map is gonna be something similar to that room. Not the same, but generally like the Slayer's mancave

[obtuse arch]

As a bit hub-world enthusiast, I love the whole ship/mancave

[brave wadi]

Looks great! How are you doing collision on the stairs? Collision brush?

[tight hinge]

Just made basic full clip brushes

[obtuse arch]

This is good practice, Doomguy isn't great at going up regular stairs

[tight hinge]

Joe Biden staircase

[steel granite]

Wanted to ask about the argent music mod replacement, will that be getting added to the games official mod browser sometime? Currently whenever I try using it through mod injector I says it has the wrong MD5 hash, but I’m not sure if they updated the mod injector or if they’re moving it to the official mod browser now

https://www.nexusmods.com/doometernal/mods/1167

[obtuse arch]

The mod author is in this discord it seems. @lusty pelican

[lusty pelican]

idStudio cannot package the mus.pck file, which contains all the mixing data. So I cannot add it to the Mod Portal yet.

[karmic musk]

whats the purpose of these cover small boxes? I see them a lot by spawns.

[obtuse arch]

I think this is a place where AI can take cover

[steel granite]

I see, thanks for letting me know
Is this a problem for all music based mods in eternal now? Or just PCKs?

[lusty pelican]

Just the ones that use PCKs

[steel granite]

Would you be able to dm me if that ever gets fixed later down the road in the portal?

[lusty pelican]

If I remember, then sure.

[steel granite]

Thanks!

[hasty oyster]

snow looks all fucked up in the DLC< is that a mod doing that? strange

[oblique dirge]

Hey guys, I’m trying to make a wave system and Doom and somethings wrong

[fluid hatch]

Don't know but doom marine is making a wave system in his map too, so i'm sure he can help ya out.

do you mean wave of enemies or water?

[oblique dirge]

I’m just trying to spawn in some enemies, but it’s not working

I’ll probably figure it out tomorrow. I’m trying to release a demo for my map.

[fluid hatch]

dont ya have to use encounter manager?

[oblique dirge]

That’s what the wiki told me

This is kind of a lot. I don’t really use triggers. I’m new to them.

[fluid hatch]

thasts ok im a noob to editors too. i need to actually finish a map for once.

like i said ping doom marine and im sure he will help ya out.

[karmic musk]

I'm not sure what I'm missing. But I'm trying to spawn the player with only their fists ready. However, when I start the game, the player has the invisible gun holding pose.

wait, i think its because I don't have equip checked...

yep...it was because I didn't have equip checked lol

[fickle glade]

Joe Biden, wake up

[slender iron]

Is there a reason when i spawn an enemy from encounter manager, theres no particle effects or anything they just pop in right away

[empty bobcat]

Is there possible to listen sounds in editor?

[fluid hatch]

maybe or make a simple box map and play sounds in that.

[empty bobcat]

yeah, I can hear this in game, but it's not great to play each time to hear that sound I like is good

in manual there is play button, but there is not this in editor

preview doesn't work either

[fluid hatch]

hmm no idea

maybe extract the sounds or change to a different sound file to hear them idk.

[flint heath]

can you help noob out?
im not able to add levelinfo addon into my ashes 2063 game
ive put the levelinfo.pk3 into the bat file but it doesnt show up in the game

[empty bobcat]

ah, you are talking about gzDOOM?

[flint heath]

yes

[empty bobcat]

ah 🙂 We are here DOOM Eternal id studio channel 🙂

try here: https://discord.com/channels/162891400684371968/162899420013264896

[valid yacht]

#classic-doom-maps-mods would be the way to go mate

[flint heath]

thx

[empty bobcat]

I'm trying to force ai to rush player when they are few left on the map but zombies (except soldier hell) just standing and waiting when I approach them quite close. I tried to use command, but looks like it not helping.

Force all ai to charge player

btw. how you doint end map teleport animation: teleporter appears, player enters, end of map

I know how to make trigger + end, but not realy how to make portal shows up

Imps and soldiers are very agressive and attack player from far distance, but zombies not realy 🙂

[clever prairie]

is the steam deck (and/or Linux as a whole) ever gonna get support for the mod portal? as of now it cannot download mods. I'm trying to download a 385.97kb mod and it just gets stuck at 0%.

[empty bobcat]

no info about this yet

[obtuse arch]

You need a nav mesh, there is a guide for this
https://idstudio.idsoftware.com/gameplay/ai/navigation-mesh

[obtuse arch]

Right click --> preview.

Edit: Nvm just seen that this didn't work for you... strange

[empty bobcat]

How to hide trigger volume and use it when we triggered it?

I want trigger volume hidden, and when triggered player can walk this volume and trigger other functions.

[obtuse arch]

I bind a lot of stuff to movers, you can do this with almost anything that isn't a static brush

[empty bobcat]

yes, that was my final idea, just bind all this and jsut call mover at the end of map. Generally - I just want portal showed up at the end of map, player enters, end of map.

I bound this way final switch in map07

old cool trick from DOOM 3 😄

[obtuse arch]

I have just tiny mover cubes under my map pulling all the strings haha

[empty bobcat]

haha 🙂 good!

yeah, it will be the easiest way, I'll do that the same 😄

lol - "you got stuff 666"

[oblique dirge]

Well guys, I’m gonna try to make a wave system day too

[oblique dirge]

how you do thart

that

[obtuse arch]

Good luck!

[oblique dirge]

So I tried it and it still doesn’t work they shouldn’t make it easier way to swarm these enemies because the Wookie is not really giving a good example of what you should do

My keyboard, I messed up my bad

But it shouldn’t be this hard to make a wave of enemies. It’s kind of stupid.

[oblique dirge]

I don’t mean to bother you, but is there easier way to make waves of enemies?

[obtuse arch]

Did you build a nav mesh?

[oblique dirge]

I did yeah, and they just won’t spawn in

[obtuse arch]

can i see a screenshot of what you have built?

[oblique dirge]

My game crashed this stupid software. Let me just build it again.

[oblique dirge]

this is what im useing

Let me set it up again, the slow ass process

[prisma vector]

@clever prairie Haven't tried my steam deck.but on my Linux Mint steam compatibility change to GE proton 9-11. Mod portal works and ID studio. But ID studio doesn't work right. I have to try get them on the same directory.

[empty bobcat]

@oblique dirge

slowbuild it, build navigation, volumes, triggers form Build menu

this encounter spawns 32 ai at once, it's limit

[oblique dirge]

Thank you, but do you know where the Gore objects are? I can’t find them I usually can.

[empty bobcat]

what kind of gore?

[prisma vector]

Gore nest?

[empty bobcat]

look here @oblique dirge art/kit/hell/gore

art/kit/hell

[obtuse arch]

@empty bobcat did you figure out how to get music working yet?
I find by default there is no music, but if I put music in with an encounter it plays the menu music, so there is something happening, just not what I want.

[oblique dirge]

What category is it in models or

[empty bobcat]

no 😭 I tried what I can, but it doesn't work

[obtuse arch]

damn, I even tried setting a box sound entity to music, and I just got nothing

[empty bobcat]

me too 😄

[oblique dirge]

Doom Marine have some sad news i’m remaking the map I was originally making. I ran into some issues so I will make this one since I’ve learned a lot of things and I will make it the best it can be.

[empty bobcat]

ok, that's look like interesting task 😄 I can get waste an hour for this 😄 Let's try make some music 😄

[empty bobcat]

nothing go waste cause you always learn something

[obtuse arch]

very true

[midnight zephyr]

Hi! I found out about IdStudio not so long ago. And so I want to make a remake of my map from DOOM2 for Doom Eternal. Can anyone suggest good guides to start?

[obtuse arch]

https://idstudio.idsoftware.com/tutorials/build-a-simple-box-map

I would start here with their box map guide, if there is anything you are struggling to find in there I would CTRL+F in this chatroom or ask in this chatroom

[oblique dirge]

good luck!!!

[midnight zephyr]

Thx! It's just that it's always hard to start a new editor from scratch. It would be trivial to get used to where and which buttons are located

[midnight zephyr]

Thank u mate!

[obtuse arch]

It's quite overwhelming, but people here, both other modders and developers, have been very helpful, as the tutorials only tell you so much

[empty bobcat]

@obtuse arch if you are in editor and fire up from engine window any campaign map - do you have music? I don't.

[obtuse arch]

I will take a look in 1 second, just testing something real quick

[empty bobcat]

I'm on urdak now, there is no music.

[obtuse arch]

how are you opening maps in the editor, because when I did it before I was unable to see triggers etc. ?

[empty bobcat]

Now I got music! I did like this: exit to main menu:

wait for menu theme start to play, devmap again urdak - and the music starts to play

so maybe the entity music works, but there is some bug to prevent to listen it

btw. where to find DOOM Eternal music?

[obtuse arch]

you open the map like this and then enter the command line from your first screenshot?

[empty bobcat]

no I don't open the map - I just run from console

[obtuse arch]

yeah i cant find the actual Doom Eternal music from the levels, just music from the hub

[empty bobcat]

so now I got music on my map... from urdak

but I didn't set it from Urdak

[obtuse arch]

this wont work for me, maybe because it's on a different drive on my pc... let me test

[empty bobcat]

from the engine windows in the console I just devmap original map from Eternal

and I have any music, after trick with back to main menu and start the map again I get music

but on my map I got like "last music played"

[obtuse arch]

ah i got it, i did a typo

[obtuse arch]

hmmm, hence it playing the urdak music now

[obtuse arch]

My in engine music is super loud

I wonder how the HUB handles music, as in the hub you can select and play music, which is not dynamic music that changes during combat

[empty bobcat]

yeah, I thought about hub too

[clever prairie]

I'll try that later. thanks!

[obtuse arch]

in the sameples section, this appears to be a list of the eternal music, but it is all under a section called Play_music_menu,
Maybe when the menu music is playing for me it is because i havent properly set the state, which is one of these here?

I will test

[empty bobcat]

in hub:

but it looks like function not button to speaker

[obtuse arch]

hmmm

[hasty oyster]

Okay small problem, i figured out how to solve this before, BUT i seemed to forgot how i did it. When i do the chainsaw, it reverts to the OG model.

[empty bobcat]

Some music entity on urdak:

[obtuse arch]

is it connected to an encounter?

seeing how they set the states is really useful, cause this is probably what we are setting to the wrong values

[empty bobcat]

I couldn't find. Is there posibility to unlock everything at once on refmap?

I copied it to my map, but now each time I got urdak music and I don't know it's bug or it works.

I'm restarting ids

[obtuse arch]

I have no idea, I can't get the in game maps to show me any triggers

I wonder if inital switch state maykr_music selects this pool of music?

[empty bobcat]

ok, after trick with main menu, I got urdak music in my map, let's try it to something else

James set your entity music like mine and test it

[obtuse arch]

oh my god ive done it

[empty bobcat]

omg and it works?

[obtuse arch]

Yeah, just booted my level and it stats with urdak music, before it was main menu music

Specifically this give it the music from the very beginning of the urdak level

[obtuse arch]

this screenshot was the missing piece to the puzzle, ty so much haha

So this list of music:
https://idstudio.idsoftware.com/audio/events/audio/sound-events/music_ghost.wwu#play_music_menu

Is the Doom Eternal music

[empty bobcat]

let's try than change it 😄 cause even if I switched off - I still got music

[obtuse arch]

You gotta Set Music State with Encounter Manager as well

[empty bobcat]

ok, let's do it

how did you get this?

it's not active for me

[pearl junco]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1271883689722118255/1279510556721545276/image.png?ex=66d4b490&is=66d36310&hm=f333712882d8c279b889fe29334298727e8e4e5d137b1ec52b36a320756d6658& This took more than a small effort. Still need to account for wall texture offets....then need to figure out how to grapple with texture pegging

[empty bobcat]

awesome!

[empty bobcat]

for me it's like this:

[obtuse arch]

click the drop down arrow

oh i see the issue, i had this the other day

try placing the music entity, then save and reboot idstudio, the drop down arrow should appear

sometimes it doesnt recognise new entities in encounter manager

[obtuse arch]

is the underscore in front of sound_musicentity_1 a typo?

[empty bobcat]

no, it's name of original entity music copied from urdak

[obtuse arch]

ok, save and reboot and i think it the drop box should appear then

[empty bobcat]

ok, restarting

but we have progress 😄

[obtuse arch]

question now is how to select a specific track haha

perhaps these files hold the key to what the tracks are called in editor? idk

[empty bobcat]

still the same 🥲

what is your entity name? It has underscore before name?

[obtuse arch]

maybe try placing a new musicentity and changing the parameters

[empty bobcat]

yeah! good idea

[obtuse arch]

I only changed the four options above, then set music state

and trigger for encounter

[empty bobcat]

hehe same 😄

can you show me full Soundstate param? I copy it manualy 😄

[obtuse arch]

if you paste

music_ghost_states/additional_levelstart

that should do it

[empty bobcat]

I'm blind it's already there 😄

ok!

[obtuse arch]

I hope it works now haha

[empty bobcat]

show me your entity music - is it like this?

with: Start When Spawned as checked?

[obtuse arch]

it is identical except

[empty bobcat]

ah

so the music for you start when you start encounter or when you start the map?

[obtuse arch]

hard to say, my encounter commit trigger is at the start of the map, let me check

[empty bobcat]

ah, ok

of course music doesn't work, but maybe I need to make trick with back to main menu

[obtuse arch]

did you build your map? i built volumes/triggers

[empty bobcat]

yes

[obtuse arch]

then im not sure why it isnt working....

[empty bobcat]

encounter works but music not, I'll try trick with back to main menu

[obtuse arch]

I gotta go now, but I will show exactly how I did this later when im back with screen record

[empty bobcat]

and now I got music on map start

[obtuse arch]

you did it?

[empty bobcat]

ok, thanks for help 🙂

[empty bobcat]

but it's the same as before I put it into the encounter

[obtuse arch]

ok i will screen record later and upload it

[obtuse arch]

@empty bobcat you can see in the video it didnt work at first, so i delete the event in encounter manager then replace it, and it let me select the option i wanted

[oblique dirge]

MM

you use obs