eternal-modding

[crimson gulch]

skibidi

[vital lichen]

behold. my first arena

[lethal plume]

Just need some Beyblades

[vital lichen]

right now

[polar nexus]

if the mods are filled with brainrot content being published, then i might lose faith in humanity

[empty bobcat]

no worries, it's like classic DOOM - you had tons of goofies mods and tons of great mods 🙂

[unborn ingot]

I just found this in the files💀

found some for the cut blood harvester map lets gooo

[polar nexus]

aight, nice

[unborn ingot]

I'm going to sleep hopefully when I wake up I get an awesome mod idea

[vital lichen]

anybody knows why does enviroment not cast a single shadow from the sun?

there's shadows in the 3d world. why not in game?

nvm. fixed it

[empty bobcat]

what did you do? Bake?

Man I need to check Exultia second part, I like this hellis style. I'm playind D4 now and diablo hell reminds me DOOM hell. My two fav games 🙂

Look at this - would be cool having something like this in DE

[vital lichen]

nah, world entity

"env decl"

[lament sky]

Help people, it won't let me read the mods in the installed folder, when I change tabs and come back, they are put back in the non-installed folder, even if I start the game with the option to play with mods, they are not saved
[15:54]
Yes, I have several mods that I put on the first day of release of the mod system that I can use, but it won't let me put them in the uninstalled folder, the same thing happens that when changing tabs or entering the game, they they put the installed

[lethal plume]

I would check settings and make sure it didnt reset your directories settings

[lament sky]

sorry this is in spanish

[turbid steeple]

ever seen the left 4 dead 2 steam workshop?

[polar nexus]

nah i haven't

i'll go check rn

over 100 000

and there r a lot of weird ones

[lethal plume]

sometimes you gotta turn all of the dragons into Thomas the trains to get no loading screens entering into major cities in skyrim lol

[empty bobcat]

Exultia is mine of hellish things

[polar nexus]

been here a lot of times in ultra nightmare

[oak geyser]

If you could turn that purple goo into extra bhop friendly mountain dew, that would be really nice - thank you 👍

[empty bobcat]

welp

[unborn ingot]

Why did it crash

[karmic musk]

I like this concept

I think my favorite hell enviro in all doom games is Doom 3's.

[empty ferry]

yall people keep sending friend requests from here, Im guessing its bots but

[hasty oyster]

only thing i seem to need help on right now is figuring out the blood from gibs dropping (i was able to edit the gibs themselves) and the chainsaw blood stream. Still can tfind the asset to edit or attach

nevermind i fucked up another thing

some nuggets shared with other montsers, work load just went up

[hasty oyster]

so when i duplicate a object, sometimes when changing the dupe, it changes the OG.

[karmic musk]

how are you duplicating?

If it changes the OG, that's because you are copying it as a instance. All instances will modify the same. If you scale on instance, it will scale ALL instances.

[hasty oyster]

just right clicking like a noob and pressing duplicate ...lol

see the gore for some monsters is shared, i need ot create a new set of gore for that monster.

[hasty oyster]

"report this to the mods on discord if you see this" okay ... it was just a message

[hasty oyster]

seems like this is a issue when i try to make a backup mod. I sont see any where that has a save as feature

[mossy violet]

Anyone else have a memory leak from doing basically nothing in the editor? I have asked before but trying to see if there's a solution. I would like to start using the editor. It's weird because when I first used it, it was okay i could make a room out of brushes, made a starting point, added textures...but i think when i changed the window layout, it started running out of memory 40gb+ eaten in less than 1 min) from just creating a couple brushes.

[visual drift]

i booted up idStudio for the first time and I can't see anything cause of the slayer's vaping addiction

tried screwing with the ingame video settings and no luck

[midnight hedge]

@visual drift it will only look that way for the menu. The rest of the game looks fine if you did not make custom levels. Otherwise it will go by the settings of those levels.

[halcyon stratus]

How do I run the Dead Simple map? Is it related to mod load order? I'm getting a notification on the console saying the map doesn't exist in the current package.

[indigo forge]

Hello again. I have been following the website for idStudio and there is this one part that's bugging me, a LOT. On the part for making checkpoints, it says that there is a folder named "layerstates" in "target", with an entity named "layer_state_change", and that is how you are supposed to setup a checkpoint. However, once I follow those same instructions and try to find the folder "layerstates", it is simply not there. The only thing closest to that is a "change_layer" entity, but when I follow the same instructions with that entity instead, it spawns the player there instead.

Basically, I ain't got a damn clue how to even setup layers, nor if I am even doing this right.

Basically, I am asking for help on actually building a checkpoint

[hasty oyster]

I’m still trying to figure out how to save as. Must yes memory leaks are happening too

It is beta

[slender iron]

This is gonna be beautiful

[lament sky]

People, can you install new mods with support for Doom Eternal mods or is this disabled?

[halcyon stratus]

Anyone?

[slender iron]

i'd definitely check the load order. what other mods do you have?

[halcyon stratus]

Yeah nah, it's just not working for me. Almost like it just doesn't exist.

I think I found the problem. The map uh, only consists of two files. 'deadsimple.lightdb' and 'deadsimple.rawdb'.

No .pk5, nothing.

[primal jay]

So, if I run the launcher and start up the base game, I have no issues and everything runs fine. But if I go to "Play DOOM Eternal with mods" and start it without any mods active or installed, I get an Access Violation error. I don't exactly know what this means or what I might be able to do to fix it. Any ideas or information?

[halcyon stratus]

That's fucking weird. Just tried myself and the game boots up fine. Probably reverify files on Steam?

[primal jay]

Will do. I did do a full reinstall already just to make sure I got rid of the old Mod Injector.

As far as I can tell from research it might have something to do with a RAM requirement that isn't specified. Maybe the modded version requires 32GB like the new dev tool? Even then, my system does have 32 GB of RAM, so minus basic system processes it has the resources. Plus a paging file.

Only other piece of information that jumps out to me from the crash report is mention of "PRISMSHADER" and an AMD related .dll file that produces some kind of error involving said thing.

Oh and just to check I did download IDStudio. Same error occurs with it too.

[slender iron]

i remember the idstudio documentation mentioned some kind of amd issue but i cant remember what that was, it could be completely unrelated

https://idstudio.idsoftware.com/known-issues

[primal jay]

Could be my drivers being out of date then maybe. Guess I'll go through that tomorrow and see how it goes. Thing is mine crashes on startup on a black screen, but it's worth a try.

[halcyon stratus]

The mod loader mentions mods are loaded in the order they appear in the list, but what order is that? Maps seem to work best for me when placed at the very bottom of the list, with cosmetic mods at the top.

[vital lichen]

thinking about this. should I make it bigger? twice as big

[empty bobcat]

yes

[empty bobcat]

it's normal

[empty bobcat]

ok, a little break from Hangar....

hehe, I have no part to place in here

[vital lichen]

F

Are you using male/doomguy as a size reference?

[empty bobcat]

zombie guy 😄

[vital lichen]

hahaha

I use "guy reference"

[empty bobcat]

but still this only fun play, not 1:1 scale from DOOM II

[empty bobcat]

yeah I saw this model 🙂

[vital lichen]

pretty chill. i like him

[empty bobcat]

so I used DE corner

it won't be like original DOOM than

[vital lichen]

Lets go 🗣️

There are a bunch of brushes I still need to know what are they for

[empty bobcat]

ah scale is bad, and everything is bad, looks like DOOM imitation

[vital lichen]

Hahah

I was testing grid measures yesterday

With the orange grid texture

Looks like 6 cells wide is a ok size for a corridor

[vital lichen]

wait a moment. you can do a working cpu in doom.

with logic designer you can make alu, regs, rom ram and all, it's easy.

and wait!

you can also change textures, so you can end up building a display. and you can play sounds.

and...

...make DE run Doom...

...in theory.

just thinking out loud

Well, the hub already has a computer playing doom, but that's just easy. imagine a whole new computer made from gane logic running a doom clone...

[empty bobcat]

but in DOOM Eternal there is already working pc with DOOM game 🙂

[empty bobcat]

yeah this 😄

ok, I just changed the shape and now reminds a bit more Entryway

[polar nexus]

doom in ultrakill 👀

[vital lichen]

Hell yeah

[empty bobcat]

10 hours and we got this 😂

[polar nexus]

u mean u spent 10 hours creating this?

[empty bobcat]

yeah XD

still raw:

[polar nexus]

good luck 🍀

[runic eagle]

Looks so cool

[karmic musk]

You are doing a really good job with the artstyle and lighting. good work!

[lament sky]

Help people, it won't let me read the mods in the installed folder, when I change tabs and come back, they are put back in the non-installed folder, even if I start the game with the option to play with mods, they are not saved

Yes, I have several mods that I put on the first day of release of the mod system that I can use, but it won't let me put them in the uninstalled folder, the same thing happens that when changing tabs or entering the game, they they put the installed

[unborn ingot]

Maybe swap back to normal doom eternal then go back to the beta

[charred frost]

I want to see ultrakill maps ported into doom eternal, that will be very cool

[charred frost]

Looks very promising, can't wait to play full doom 2 in doom eternal xd

[empty bobcat]

how to drag edge in camera view? 😄

[lament sky]

But you can download mods and install them like I try and they stay in the active mods folder or is it just me?

[unborn ingot]

It's just you

[vital lichen]

Like vertice mode but in 3d?

[empty bobcat]

yeah but vertices drag is real bugged, you need to restart render to see result

and I did it exactly that way

[vital lichen]

I only do vertices in 2d

I wish I knew how to delete vertices

[empty bobcat]

what a mess:

[vital lichen]

Hell yeah

[pearl junco]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1271883689722118255/1274003802776928390/image.png?ex=66c0ac00&is=66bf5a80&hm=9f5568737432c9dc6b9398fbe9c66cd65134d4ccac8eae0285046d43c97e2699&

This was not hand-sculpted

Still need to handle some special / degenerate cases for floor/ceiling generation, but the majority of sectors should be good to go for any given map

[empty bobcat]

oh, that's good, so I don't need to this 😄

[pearl junco]

well, it may be a while before this thing is fully operational. And hand-placed static model geometry will definitely look better than brushwork

[empty bobcat]

yeah, I'm fighting with such method in Entryway. I use models instead brushes, still much of work, and some things must be done by hand from brushes.

[white lichen]

Someone should remake nuts.wad

it would most likely be unplayable but it would be a pretty funny feat

[pearl junco]

Here's what I get with Entryway so far. ....really not sure why a brush will just acquire infinite length like that...noticed that in another map as well

[empty bobcat]

that's cool, what method did you use to get them to DOOM Eternal?

[pearl junco]

I programmed a convertor over the last 3 days

[empty bobcat]

ah 🙂 awesome

they look like lwo, not from QUAKE remakes

I'd like to play with your converter 🙂

or if you want you can post ready to open maps

and each of us could make his own DOOM maps in DE 😄

[empty bobcat]

well, I ported lwo files to prodeus via blender. But prodeus works with 2d planes. QUAKE/idStudio is brush thing (polyhedrons)

[pearl junco]

Will probably have this on github in a day or so - no guarantees the terrain issue will be ironed out

[empty bobcat]

still less work than making geo from zero

[unborn ingot]

Someone needs to make a mod that makes the supershot gun shoot 1 ammo at a time and reloads after 2 shots

[vital lichen]

And does half the damage

[hasty oyster]

ill ask again, is there NOT a way to make back ups? I try copying the files and storing them into another folder. Is that the only way?

No Save As option found, since it shares the mod ID, so opening it up, opens ALL mods with the same MOD ID and leading to a crash

[unborn ingot]

just make a new mod delete everything in the new mods folder and copy and past the mod you want to back up

[south wasp]

'change_layer' is the entity you want to use. Trigger that to activate the checkpoint. You also need to point it to a player_start to respawn at.

Beyond that, you'll also need to handle any logic to make sure it's consistent on a map reload. eg. ensure triggers still work, preserve the state of objects like doors that you might want

[hasty oyster]

that is what i am doing now, i have all back ups on another folder. However the issue is, touching the file name path corrupts it. SO i have to make a new folder for each back up. Even having it say doom-mod-1234567 - copy, seems to break it, even if i go and try to remove that word. Not sure if im making sense

[unborn ingot]

I mean go into the original file and copy everything and paste it into a different mod with a different mod id

[hasty oyster]

that might work, just create a bunch of blank mods and copy its contents into the folder

[empty bobcat]

using lights with shadows that overlapping itself cause they are flickering

bake doesn't help

I got the same in game

also:

[south wasp]

Looks like SSR artifacts, it might well be rendering the light entity's in the reflection, culling them as you move around

[empty bobcat]

look at those boxes - the shadows are flickering

when I do not overlap light it works, but how the hell I can use only one light for room? 😦

[hasty oyster]

that seems to break it again, within the folder is ID under the base or ... somewhere, copying that now corrupts it toos.. FUCK

it could just be my computer, or being beta, not a feature not supported

[unborn ingot]

Try bake the lights that might fix it

[empty bobcat]

I made test, didn't help

I know idea about this

for now I'm just making rooms with 1-2 shadows light :/

[unborn ingot]

I think it's because it's using a brush and making it gets the right angle where it thinks the player can't see the reflection so it stops rendering it bt I don't know

[vital lichen]

What quality are you baking?

[empty bobcat]

I think it's brush problem, cause id didn't use brush to anything except clipping

[vital lichen]

Try doing a full map build

[empty bobcat]

I did test on high

[vital lichen]

Huh

[empty bobcat]

I saw on ref maps flickering lights too in HUB where is the room with trophies - the shelves shadows can flicker, also chair shadow

too bright:

and those boxes looks real heavy, that's when you make maps without scale

a bit better:

[unborn ingot]

I still need a life

[empty bobcat]

no life for the wicked! DOOM is ETERNAL!

lol this - it's a sign XD

[unborn ingot]

💀💀💀

Dose this change like almost everyday

[lethal plume]

Like the google banner

[vital lichen]

what's the difference between "clip" and "clip no areas"?

(and "player clip"=

[unborn ingot]

Dose anyone know how to change how much ammo the player has

[hasty oyster]

Gore for a single demon touched so many parts of the game. I might being doin it all wrong though.

[full jacinth]

Hi, Im looking into modding Doom Eternal but looking at rebalancing rather than map creation and the documentation is quite limited in describing the depths of what you can change. Is there a relatively simple or engine friendly way to change the damage to add randomisation such as by typing in a function (e.g. =28+RAND(0,10)) or by changing the item type from float to tabledecl so the damage value can be inherited from a graph? (see other pic as an example).

I don't know if what I want to accomplish is a bit too out there and requires programming knowledge which I don't really have. Mostly trying to learn through experimenting.

[empty bobcat]

I was trying to make door that opens and close normally. I failed 😄 They work, but do not close or do not appears on start, or appears but are no solid 🙂

so I get a break from DOOM Eternal and play other game like

[vital lichen]

How did you make the hud? Looks cool

[empty bobcat]

but, but it's DOOM RT not Eternal 🙂

if you didn't try it yet - you have to DOOM 2 RT

on moddb (it's not that prboom rt) it's path traced (I guess) DOOM 2 - it's real goat!

[vital lichen]

ah damn

didn't know it existed

[empty bobcat]

it's total new thing

[chilly pasture]

I really hope they add the ability for the launcher to remember your Beth login. Kind of annoying to have to keep logging in.

[empty bobcat]

omg - you don't need to make door, specially if you like to use DOOM model door - you just:

and voila full working door - you can even scale them as you like

what was the code? 😄 to play

[atomic bay]

For Doom 2? "FLYNNTAGGART". (Doom 1 is unlocked by collecting all cheat code pickups, which isn't as easy (edit: as fast/immediate) in a playtest map.)

[fickle glade]

Just put all the cheat disks in a map

[empty bobcat]

there are panels from D16

full working, but no textures

[lethal plume]

thought they were toilets at first lol

[empty bobcat]

hahha, yeah 😄

[hazy glen]

I'm really enjoying that RTX mod. Its amazing

[halcyon stratus]

Looks beautiful, great job.

[empty bobcat]

what you thinking guys, which version is better? (there are still no stickers):

or this:

[lethal plume]

i think if the bottom floor was darker it would look good. just a lot of light.

in my memories those fixtures cast a rectangular spot light lol

[last python]

I agree that it has, indeed, a lot of light. But this one it's perfect!

[empty bobcat]

This one was my first idea. So it stays 🙂

There is no possible to change color for models?

Or even textures. I saw you can change emissive color for models, if they have some lights.

[last python]

I think there is, i saw some stuff of colors in AI's maybe there's models too

[empty bobcat]

here I see emissive color:

so it's cool to change lights (like in prodeus :D)

there is parameter geo decal tint

but it doesn't change color the wall "skin"

maybe it's for some signs/logos

[halcyon stratus]

That texture has always reminded me of STARTAN for some reason.

[halcyon stratus]

It's crazy that the entirety of Doom 1 and 2 is relegated to a simple interactable.

[empty bobcat]

DOOR1

I like this texture (from previous screen) in DE

reminds me DOOM I style

man, if I only learn exporting FBX and properly import it to DE I can remake any DOOM original map

I need to try 🙂

https://idstudio.idsoftware.com/working-with-art/importing-content#static-models

[hasty oyster]

i wonder who is going to be the first to make snap map 2.0 Eternal edition

[lethal plume]

I followed the docs and exported thwomps castle to DE out of blender just with no materials

and then found iot easier to export a quake map and convert it to brushes and convert to DE

[empty bobcat]

I made a FBX model, I put it to folder: E:\IDSTUDIO\doom-mod-1613565479\base\art\models, but when I trying to open it in game I can't. I copy this path, but nothing happens

maybe I should restart idstudio?

[lethal plume]

that show i have mine. does it show up if you right click to add model?

restarting couldnt hurt

my giant thwomps castle was sideways but other than that it loaded fine

[empty bobcat]

I can't even open this folder in idstudio, I copy full path and hit enter and nothing happens

I'll restart ids

[lethal plume]

in windows?

[empty bobcat]

in idstudio

[lethal plume]

i manualy created the folders in the base directory

[empty bobcat]

yes:

[lethal plume]

so if you right click to add model is that model folder there?

[empty bobcat]

so now if I put this to idstduio:

[lethal plume]

just right click in one of the editors

[empty bobcat]

in here?

[lethal plume]

yeah from the add model option

[empty bobcat]

nothing

[lethal plume]

ill take a screen shot of mine in a min when i go upstairs

[empty bobcat]

great, thanks 🙂

[lethal plume]

but i just righ clicked new model and opened up the directories and my custom model was there

[empty bobcat]

I didn't use any material for this model in blender

[lethal plume]

same

its on my long list of shit to figure out lol

[empty bobcat]

I got something

I just searched by name

I got this abomination, I think it is that, it's super huge and hard to navigate

and it's not shown in world

but if I select:

looks weird from sides

it is

[hasty oyster]

i find my self obsessed, even if i can't make shit, i can't stop messing around with idstudio. what is wrong with me

[empty bobcat]

me too ;/

hmm, but how to edit this

ok, I genereated decl with util

[lethal plume]

Yeah thats how my castle looked

but converting it into brushes seemed better for editing

[empty bobcat]

it's possible to convert it to editable in idstudio?

[lethal plume]

I dont think so

[empty bobcat]

ok, so no "quick" converting whole game to DE 😄

[lethal plume]

Theyb are just static models but scalable and what not

[empty bobcat]

yeah

good for some prop

[lethal plume]

yeah export out of blender as a .map and then conevrt to doom 3 and then doom eternal lol

[empty bobcat]

oh

[lethal plume]

Has anyone tried copy and pasting out of radiant?

[empty bobcat]

I had brush version of Hangar, so I copied from text map file whole brush section, and copied it to the DE map file

but I had to scaled it (I learnt today there is function scale, and I do not need do this manualy)

maybe this trick works with other QUAKEs

well 😄 I need to find my QUAKE map resource

[lethal plume]

i convert it to doom 3 map format by copying and pasting between 2 instances of QUARK

[empty bobcat]

ah

ok, lets check START.map from Q

ah, no I see this txt is built totaly different. In DOOM 3 each brush has name, in Q1 not.

[lethal plume]

well just tried to paste q2dm1 from NetRadiantCustom to IidStudio and it crashed

but it had a spinning wheel

[empty bobcat]

you copied geo in QUARK or txt file?

[lethal plume]

in quark

[empty bobcat]

yes in quark

[lethal plume]

yeah the blender exporter is quake 1 formatish

[empty bobcat]

I remember nothing from QUARK 😄

how to zoom out? 😄

[lethal plume]

i still use it for weird stuff

open a doom 3 instance and just copy paste map structure and save the doom3 map file and then use that new converter

[empty bobcat]

ahahaha

[empty bobcat]

got it

how to save in D3 instance as DOOM3 map, there is only QUAKE map, it's the same for QUARK names?

[lethal plume]

you have to open a quark in doom3 mode

[empty bobcat]

I got it, copied map from Q1 to D3

this is D3 instance

so I save as map

quark calls it QUAKE map file

ok, I got the file. I have no idea how to use D3 to DE converter.

[lethal plume]

it is drag and drop

[empty bobcat]

it's this?

[lethal plume]

it will drop a converted file with converted added to filename

[empty bobcat]

in this exe?

[lethal plume]

yeah go through bin

bin/debug/net8

that is where the exe is

[empty bobcat]

I drop but looks like nothing happens

[lethal plume]

The .net 8 framework needs to be installed also

[empty bobcat]

hmm, maybe because this

[lethal plume]

yeah it wont do anything if .net 8 is not installed

same happened to me

[empty bobcat]

installing

[lethal plume]

one it is converted it just opens right up in the new editor

[empty bobcat]

I got the file

[lethal plume]

surprised how easy it was

[empty bobcat]

so now it's just a mpa for DE?

groovy

startmap from Q1 🙂 Great thanks for help!

converted map if someone like 🙂

[lethal plume]

someone already converted it didnt they lol

[empty bobcat]

😄

[lethal plume]

ugh i forgot i was gonna mess with textures tonight i need some beer lol

[empty bobcat]

there is full DOOM 1 first mission for QUAKE (but for remake, I'm not sure QUARK can open it)

[lethal plume]

i do any editing in TB first just for ease of use lol

[empty bobcat]

I have somewher converter from bsp to map (those new remake maps)

[lethal plume]

the new ericw tools have a decompile built in

[empty bobcat]

I used to TB few years ago before QUAKE remake

can blender drop DOOM 3 maps?

or at least Q1?

I got some skill in Prodeus, it would be easy to put prodeus emap to blender and export it as QUAKE/D3

but it's theme for another day 😄 I'm going to sleep, great thanks again!

[lethal plume]

you can export in a map format

[halcyon stratus]

I'm pleasanty surprised by how much ID7 resembles TB.

[lethal plume]

yeah if you can get anything into blender there is a way to convert to doom eternal .map

I got really excited when it seen the old radiant clipboard lol

[empty bobcat]

for Q1 or D3?

[lethal plume]

that would have been a huge shortcut for converting

[vague bronze]

I just found out you need to connect to the internet to play mods you already have installed, anyone have similar experience or no?

[lethal plume]

it has a doom3 map option i just noticed that

that skips quite a few steps

the blender exporter plugin

[empty bobcat]

yes

I'm not sure can you run idstudio without Internet

ok, now seriously I need to go to sleep 🙂 Goodnight gentlemans, and thanks again 🙂

[lethal plume]

and yes it looks like one at a time for textures unless i make a script that creates the decl

[hasty oyster]

bought the Art of Doom Eternal Book, JUST in case i get good enough with idstudio to make my own monster models. I can barely sprite ... but you never know....

i just learned what a targa file is yesterday

[lethal plume]

i have added 1 material so far. lol

[hasty oyster]

also downloaded blender, need to get use to using that as well. So much to learn.

[lethal plume]

just start with a donut lol

[hasty oyster]

nah, im going straight to hell knight

doughnut can wait

[lethal plume]

But you wont learn how to use geometry nodes to put sprinkles all over its body.

[hasty oyster]

i htink blender only does the model part, not the graphics, that i will have to do in adobe i htink

THAT part i can actually do

[lethal plume]

Blender can do everything

if needed

[hasty oyster]

so if i ever get far enough, this variant of hell knight will actually shoot green balls of poison plasma, as well as behave much like the eternal one

[stiff plaza]

Please make it bleed green if you can

[hasty oyster]

That is literally the mod i am trying to work on right now, i am running into issues though

i will also do the same for the guardian and the dread knight

[stiff plaza]

Baron?

[hasty oyster]

If someone adds the 2016 baron ill do that too, Fireborne baron bleeds fire because its .... fireborne

so it may sense imo

[stiff plaza]

Ah yeah forgot it's a new kind in Eternal

[hasty oyster]

there IS a 2016 baron skin in the mod section, but i really want to rip the 2016 one out and attach gorekit to it as well. But that is something ill have to learn from the start

thankfully the models are pretty close

[prisma vector]

Gore kit?

[foggy rock]

Hmm, the fire here seems to be made of fire.

[hasty oyster]

i dont know what to call it, the destructible parts

[prisma vector]

Oh okay

[hasty oyster]

i also want to add in the SUmmoner and its AI, it will also need destrucibles too, and i remember the people at iD telling me it takes a long time to get that right and working

[prisma vector]

Honestly I think the head would make sense for destruction, that weird thing on it's head

[halcyon stratus]

I wonder how long til we see the first proper model replacement mod, with proper rigging and animations and the like. 2016's models shouldn't be too hard to do. The armature and rigging work is already done and it would be easier to port them over, the tricky bit would be the gore bits.

[hasty oyster]

yah it is def out of my level of skill

the only modding i have ever done is GZDoom/iDtech 1 lolololololol

this is all new territory for me

iDtech 1 -> iDtech 7: It is only a difference of 6. np

[hot agate]

how broad is the variety of gameplay changes you can do with the modding capabilities? You can obviously make new maps, but could you create outright new game modes? could you do a sidescroller / platformer?

[prisma vector]

how do you change your keybinds through the debug menu? i saw a guide on it but still dont really understand

Don't need debug if you're talking not modding

[prisma vector]

I thought to just ask here because im trying to run mods w doom eternal
i dunno where id ask this because i dont think id get an answer from #doom-eternal chat

You can go to the settings, go to controls and go to Customize Slayer Controls

[indigo forge]

It says in the console that it does save as a checkpoint, but for some reason, it starts the player at the checkpoint rather than the intended spawnpoint.

Bruh. Solved my issue. When it comes to layers, turns out, to set a layer up, you are supposed to append "(map_name)/" when the prompt to create a layer pops up. I thought I was doing something wrong because it would let me create one. You all have fun while I bang my head against the wall for being dum dum >:(.

[prisma vector]

I dont know whats with my game but for some reason whenever i click any of the bindings with my mouse, it doesnt even give me the option to even bind to another key

for some reason doom eternal doesnt let me toggle off any settings, heres a clip to show

[fathom topaz]

is there any way to replace brushes with kits in idstudio?

[languid remnant]

is it possible to have more than one 2d world editor?

[halcyon stratus]

Dead Simple map was reuploaded and it's still missing files.

[halcyon stratus]

Do they play sound and the interactable animations?

[halcyon stratus]

IIRC it's recommended to install idStudio in the same folder/drive as DE, correct? Would it be possible to install the assets in a different drive, like an HDD so as to save up space some?

[maiden mica]

You've ever tried idtech4?

[fathom topaz]

how do you open mods/maps inside of idstudio?

[empty bobcat]

no animations, but got sound

[halcyon stratus]

That's something at least. I've always liked the sound those switches made, it's the classic SFX with something else layered on top.

[golden tiger]

So have any mods been made using the tools they released?

[halcyon stratus]

Yes.

[golden tiger]

What are the best ones?

[halcyon stratus]

Take your pick. Boot up the game and see for yourself. There's quite a few gameplay changing ones, a big handful of custom Master Levels, and another handful of cosmetic ones.

[south wasp]

It's recommended to install assets on the same drive as idStudio, presumably because a lot of the stuff included in the tools will be mixed in with the stuff in the asset packs

[halcyon stratus]

Bummer, only have a spare 1tb HDD. Guess that'll have to do. I do have a 500gb M.2 which has barely enough storage space for idStudio alone, and I already use it to for my art files so that's a no-go.

I also only have 16gb of RAM, so RIP every other program running in the background. This is absolutely gonna suck, but hey, what can you do. :P

[pearl junco]

I've published what I have so far and made it useable via the command line.

https://github.com/FlavorfulGecko5/WadToBrush

[empty bobcat]

I'm totaly unfamiliar with this - how to use it?

[pearl junco]

Run it from the command line. Download it from the releases page, unzip the executable. Run it in powershell

[empty bobcat]

ok, where is executable? Sorry I have no idea about this.

I guess it's not .exe file

[halcyon stratus]

I remember back when I had issues figuring out GitHub also.

[empty bobcat]

I see this like that:

[pearl junco]

Releases, right column

[empty bobcat]

ok, now I see, thanks 🙂

ok, another stupid question - I need to use wad with ONE map, or I can drop full DOOM.wad?

ok, I see

can you tell me what scale do you use?

[pearl junco]

run it multiple times if you want multiple maps. Anything >= 10 should be suitable

[empty bobcat]

I need to use quotes for level names?

[pearl junco]

no

match the name of the lump header

[empty bobcat]

Trinity help!

[empty bobcat]

Last big room left, two outsides, end room, and 4 tiny rooms

scale is not 1:1

but it was made to learn working with models. I thought it will be easier just to snap models to get a map, it's not easier 😄

[vital lichen]

It certainly makes your map look better, but it takes a lot of time if you want them to look rrally good

I'm making a map based with the same theme as the slayergates and they only use a couple of assets (sentinel_ancient), but it really takes effort to place all of them in a creative way

[empty bobcat]

I totaly know, I'm making it real dirty way, I just want to see it working. And more I use it to learn than real good map.

this room is total broke in scale for example

at least jump to secret trigger is ok

[halcyon stratus]

Fuck, I need to move DE to the HDD as well. Launcher is bitching about it not being able to find an idStudio installation on disk.

[pearl junco]

Damnit, I fucked up the args prompt

Ignore [Output]

[halcyon stratus]

Rude. I know I'm an artist but you don't need to call me that.

[pearl junco]

Uploaded a new zip onto the releases page...it will now actually tell you how to run the program correctly

[empty bobcat]

I can't run it. I'm not sure I'm doing this correctly.

[pearl junco]

huh...are you sure the path to the wad is correct?

use tab completion to be sure

[empty bobcat]

it looks like that:

[pearl junco]

wadtobrush.exe DOOM2.WAD MAP01 10 10

[halcyon stratus]

Wait. Do I need all 500gb asset files?

Can't I just install a couple of them for the textures, props and whatnot?

[empty bobcat]

hmm, no still doesnt' work

[pearl junco]

This suggests that it's not able to read the wad file for some reason

[empty bobcat]

there is no matter wad version?

[halcyon stratus]

I don't get it.

[empty bobcat]

all assets I downloaded are for me 248 GB

[halcyon stratus]

Wait, that's all the assets in storage size?

I recall the guys on stream saying the entire thing would be upwards to 500gb.

[empty bobcat]

all of them

[halcyon stratus]

Huh.

[empty bobcat]

yeah if he only read id page on steam 😄

[halcyon stratus]

So that was a lie. Along with the mininum requirements listing 32gb of RAM when 16 works just fine.

[empty bobcat]

lol this:

[atomic bay]

No. You only need to download the asset packs for maps that you want to modify or use models/textures from. Depending on what you want to do, you might get away with just one (or even zero) asset packs.

[halcyon stratus]

Got it, thanks.

Can't wait to dive feet first into this. I'll look up some tutorials first thing tomorrow and get to doing custom geo stuff as soon as I get my bearings.

Then, depending on complexity, I'll do some monster and weapon recolors. In due time of course.

[empty bobcat]

Great thanks to @pearl junco for his new converter!

[empty bobcat]

rock room in Entryway:

still wip

[lethal plume]

nice

[empty bobcat]

Imagine you could copy rocks from Exultia to the Edge

[lethal plume]

Yeah i think it would look good with some models thrown in

[empty bobcat]

2nd part of Exultia is my fav Hell style in DOOM Eternal

I love original geo (I mean DOOM and QUAKE) probably I'll build raw original geo too with full gameplay.

But I wanted to try use all this stuff they put to idstudio (models assets)

so now we can port DOOM and QUAKE maps (Thanos meme here :D)

[lethal plume]

yeah i think there is a path for just about every games geometry now. older games.

[lethal plume]

3 textures down 41 left lol

[empty bobcat]

looks great!

[vital lichen]

behold. 1 hour took me this

[empty bobcat]

it's custom model or from assets? 🙂

[vital lichen]

yeah

kit/sentinel_ancient

[empty bobcat]

cool. I'm so excited 🙂 DOOM editor, DOOM RT 😄 I'm switching between them 😄

[vital lichen]

detailing is my passion

[empty bobcat]

I love details and making details, but I learnt to not overdetailed - player will not see that 🙂 I remember when I was making in D3 corridor full of some buttons, cables, cracks - for one week. Nobody noticed that work 😄

[vital lichen]

in my case I need detailing, since the player will spend plenty of time in my arena

look at this. manual stone placement

[empty bobcat]

beuatifull! I love such things

[vital lichen]

I decidec I will only do manual stone placing over elevated surfdaces like this

for the ground, there's a tile big enough to cover it

[empty bobcat]

put few, copy together, repeat 🙂

[vital lichen]

already did!

but it needs to be big clusters in order to be duplicated, small clusters make repetition noticeable

[empty bobcat]

yes

[vital lichen]

it's taking shape!!!!

[empty bobcat]

yeah! Awesome!

[plush thicket]

that rock geo looks good just missing few details

[empty bobcat]

I've just crashed making walls

somehow idstudio has heavy start now ;/ It's stuck in "TELEPORTING"

[vital lichen]

@empty bobcat do you use clips?

[empty bobcat]

for now for steps, but probably later for geo, and I'm not sure how to make nav if the floor are models

[vital lichen]

Oh shit, didn't think about that

Maybe clips can be used as nav

I was wondering which clip would you use in each case, since the wiki explains nothing

[empty bobcat]

I thought about this too

[empty bobcat]

there are lots of clips, yes

[vital lichen]

Full clip, clip, clip player, clip monster, clip no are... help 😔

[empty bobcat]

what's the difference clip vs full clip?

I got almost finished last gameplay room, next outside areas + MEGA VISTA 😄

30 hours for map you can finish in 1 minute XD

I built so cool clip for those steps, and there is nothing, maybe I accidentaly deleted it 😦

[vital lichen]

I think full clip is a clip for everything. Clip only for players/ monsters

[vital lichen]

Damn

[vital lichen]

Sometimes i go into other maps and see when they use them. Usually clip is for ground

Full clip for walls, or clip no area

[empty bobcat]

moving vertices is total bugged

you drag vertices, but brush doesn't refresh, but if you move that brush it refreshing immediately:

there we go, almost done clip for steps

Step height for player is real low, it has problem almost with everything to walk

How many models would you like to use for rock wall?
Yes:

[vital lichen]

Everytime I finish moving vertices i ESC

[vital lichen]

Yeah my man

[empty bobcat]

Meshy:

[hasty oyster]

looking at new computers, obviously top video card is most important, think i should get more than 64gigs for memory to run idstudio better?

[empty bobcat]

got money, go nuts

you can buy 64 and always can buy more if need

Still not final:

entryway secret:

[hasty oyster]

ill start making levels at some point, right now i want to edit monsters and make new ones

[karmic musk]

Do it. Nothing better than new monster Variants.

[sand juniper]

cyber imp

[hasty oyster]

going to make a hell knight variant, but i have to learn a lot more before i gt there. first monster i make most likely since it will be easy, is a purple cacodemon

[empty bobcat]

this HK you showed last time? It looks bad ass

that

[hasty oyster]

form the art book yes, but like i said, i have a ways to go before i get even close to starting it. If all else fails, i just start up my own mod studio and take out a loan lol. It is going ot happen one way or another

im too motivated and obsessed

[empty bobcat]

https://tenor.com/view/archvile-intro-doom-eternal-demon-gif-16987418

still no outside ready

[karmic musk]

This reminds me. It would be cool if someone took the gladiator model, and removed the shield/morning star. Scale it, and have it use the animations of the baron. Almost like seeing classic Baron of hell in eternal.

[hasty oyster]

god damn it, now i have to do that too ...

and guess what, my wife just handed me my amazon package, which contains the eternal artbook

[plush thicket]

Another room finished

[polar nexus]

i'm impressed

[vital lichen]

Hell yeah my brother

Which kit?

[karmic musk]

Art style is very cool. It's like Doom 3/2016 combined

[plush thicket]

Mostly Mars core, few atlantica, Arc complex

[prisma estuary]

the lighting looks really cool in that picture

[prisma estuary]

now theres some blood and some props moved around nice

[vital lichen]

Looks cool

[vital lichen]

IMO, too much color, should try to get a more harmonic color palette

ie colors that are close to each other

[empty bobcat]

YES!

[plush thicket]

examples ??

[stiff plaza]

Try replacing yellow with green, as red and green are opposites

Or as jet said, colors that are closer together, i.e. pink and purple

[plush thicket]

have to remind you guys this a doom eternal map

[south wasp]

Check out how steps are done in some of the SP maps, there's clip and IK brushes AFAIK. You probably don't want a clip ramp, as the AI's feet IK will collide with, making it looks like they're floating.

[empty bobcat]

what does IK clip?

I'm exactly now watching this texture 😄

[fathom topaz]

anyone know how to open doors? I got one to unlock, but doesn't play the opening anim

[empty bobcat]

did you use ready to use door, or just model?

[vital lichen]

Orange, red and yellow are harmonics. The colors you placed in the map are triads, they form a triangle in the color circle

[fathom topaz]

I used a door from the interact entity

[vital lichen]

Triads generate a lot of contrast, distraction and grabs attention

Harmonics blend in space

[empty bobcat]

I've just closed idStudio, I can check this door. What is its name?

[plush thicket]

nvm

[vital lichen]

Much better now

[empty bobcat]

I liked this golden, and I like this one too (for sure I helped :D)

[vital lichen]

Or you could have all lights blue and change them when the encou ter starts. I think you can do it with triggers

[fathom topaz]

I'm using interact_doors_uac_large_02_1. I targted it to a console and followed the interact with door tutorial on the idstudio site, and the door unlocks but doesn't open

[empty bobcat]

ok, one sec starting id

[empty bobcat]

ah ok, now I got it

yeah, they will not open, opening doors is much more complicated now

[fathom topaz]

fuck

[empty bobcat]

let's make this door

in standard they open by themself

it's this, right?

[fathom topaz]

yeah the garage doors open by themselves

[empty bobcat]

this one?

[fathom topaz]

yeah that one

[empty bobcat]

I use them as open by themself

[fathom topaz]

is there a way to edit that in the inspector?

[empty bobcat]

yes, of course, there are REAL LONG list of params

look this only for door. Ok, lets make it!

[fathom topaz]

omfg

[empty bobcat]

1. Link switch with door. So you need know the name of the door.

[fathom topaz]

Ok i got that down. have it so it unlocks when a switch is pressed

[empty bobcat]

in my case

[fathom topaz]

also how did you oipen the surface inspector?

[empty bobcat]

I had this problem too 😄 in here

[fathom topaz]

oh damn thats nice

[empty bobcat]

so it's linked

[mossy violet]

is there any way to get the editor to always open the same mod instead of creating a new one each time?

[empty bobcat]

of course - you need to run it from DOOM Eternal launcher, not from steam as idStudio

[mossy violet]

ahhh okay thanks makes sense

[empty bobcat]

ok, starting game in editor (for the first time it takes long, later will be faster)

[fathom topaz]

got mine linked, what are the params you need to change to make it open?

[empty bobcat]

one sec, my ids "thinking" 😄

so, ok - my switch do nothing for now 🙂

[fathom topaz]

love that

hmm interesting, seems a bit more involved than i thought

[hasty oyster]

trying to figure out a way to edit the gib colors. I figured it out, but now i forgot

[empty bobcat]

that's normal 😄 I don't remember what I learnt yesterday :>

[karmic musk]

I had an issue with door switches. And I had to back up away from the door for it to open...not sure if it's a volume on the door or something. But I got stuck with that.

That was after unlocking via switch

[plush thicket]

use target/interact_action_door entity

what your interaction state in that door, select the door go to entity inspector open the interaction tab and check the inital state

[empty bobcat]

I'll try, thanks.
Btw. why I can't drag more than once link from Begin?

so for the perk I need to copy Begin?

I did that last time, but it's... weird

[plush thicket]

use sequence node

[empty bobcat]

yeah! Great, thanks for help!

so cool! I loved making waves maps (for DOOM 2016 and prodeus) I need to learn this in Eternal 🙂

[empty bobcat]

do you remember maybe how to add dash for player?

[plush thicket]

give dash what you mean ??

[empty bobcat]

perk - dash

[plush thicket]

you mean the dash abililty ??

[empty bobcat]

I did yesterday, but can't find today :/

[plush thicket]

oh you don't want to give the player everything from the begin ??

[empty bobcat]

yeah, I already took his all guns except shotgun, but I want allow him to dash

hmm, I think I got this saved on some other map

[plush thicket]

you can use pickup entity

[empty bobcat]

many things in idstudio is not intuitive 😄

[plush thicket]

let me fire up the studio very quick

[empty bobcat]

got it

it's Inventory item

I thought it's perk

[plush thicket]

👍

[empty bobcat]

works like charm 🙂

probably I forgot again 😄

[empty bobcat]

do you know maybe - can we use models as nav for ai? I have floor made out of models, so I don't know I should group it to nav or make a clip.

[plush thicket]

yes, add the model you want to group named nav

[empty bobcat]

ah cool! Thanks for answer

[plush thicket]

but prefer to use clip brush as nav

[empty bobcat]

yeah I thought about it too

[fathom topaz]

how do you give the player all mods and all weapons at the start of a level?

[fathom topaz]

@plush thicket trying to set up a door rn, can you explain this?

[plush thicket]

so how you want the door to function like you wanna open by switch for example

[fathom topaz]

yeah, trying to set up where hitting a switch opens the door

[plush thicket]

ok that we need to do, click in door and find the interaction dropdown in the entity inspector switch the inital state to interactables/door/normal/start_locked

you follow ?? @fathom topaz

[fathom topaz]

Let me try that

[fathom topaz]

also do you know how to start the player off with all weapons, all mods, and all abilities?

[plush thicket]

select the main refmap go to devmap inv loadout and use any dlc decl like e5m3_hell you find in the devinvloadout/dlc

[atomic bay]

Change the worldspawn's devInvLoadout to "devinvloadout/dlc/e5m3_hell". This will give you all weapons, upgrades, Runes, Support Runes, and the Sentinel Hammer.
If you want the player to start with the Crucible instead of the Sentinel Hammer, then either copy or edit "devinvloadout/dlc/e5m2_earth", and change the "weapon/player/hammer" item in it to "weapon/player/crucible".

[eager ginkgo]

hey, im used to the source hammer editors but not this one, how do u select an individual face of a brush on this one?

[fathom topaz]

Shift+Left Click

[eager ginkgo]

i swear i did that and it selected the entire cube brush

i think, one sec ima launch it

[fathom topaz]

how did you pull up that menu?

[eager ginkgo]

yeah im pressing shift + left click and its just instead selecting the entire cube instead of just one face of the cube

[plush thicket]

click in devmap inv loadout

click in null box

[fathom topaz]

what entity is that for?

[plush thicket]

it should give all the upgrades and weapons, but it will give the hammer, look at zwip message should tell how to remove it @fathom topaz

[fathom topaz]

awesome, thanks a lot!

[karmic musk]

Beautiful, good to see the complimentary colors there. 🙂

[plush thicket]

I will start make tutorial vids tomorrow, I will try lmao

[eager ginkgo]

saleem

could you help me out if you dont mind g, how do you select an individual face of a brush

[night heath]

Hi, need help regarding modding. no mods work, I put them into the active mod folder but they just dont load up, is there anything i missed? I wanna play some modded master levels as ive played through all of them but i cant get it to work

instead of modded doom its just vanilla doom

[eager ginkgo]

did u click the green button above

[night heath]

yes.

[eager ginkgo]

uhm disable the rocket rebalance mod and see if the other one works

there could be a small chance that one is like messing up with the other one somehow

[night heath]

also im under the impression that you turn on these ml by just turning on the level normally, if im wrong and they instead need to be loaded up like normal ML mods, I fold and I am restarted. but i dont think they should be

[atomic bay]

Does your Windows username contain any non-A-Z characters (such as accented letters, like Ö or Ñ)? If so, try to go into the settings at the top(?) and changing the mod installation folder to something like "C:\DoomEternalMods".

[plush thicket]

You mean like this ???

[eager ginkgo]

yeah, it keeps selecting the entire cube

so i cant apply texture individually

it just applies texture to the whole brush

oh wait what i have to hollow it? that so awkward, in the source hammer editor you could just apply texture to individual faces and keeping the brush intact

[karmic musk]

no

its ctrl + shift + left click

[eager ginkgo]

omfg

[plush thicket]

YEP that one

[eager ginkgo]

why did i not try that hotkey combination, thank you so much

[karmic musk]

here's a list of hotkey combos on the wiki. https://idstudio.idsoftware.com/worldbuilding/map-building-blocks/brush-geometry#blocking-out-levels

[eager ginkgo]

my hero

[karmic musk]

that's specifically for brushes

there are different sections for different hotkeys on the wiki

you can even select edges and vertices which is super handy

[night heath]

YIPPEEE IT FINALLY WORKS

god i love when a thing doesnt work and you ask someone for help and it magically starts working

HUGE W

[eager ginkgo]

so lets say i want to add a static prop into my map, do I have to install the asset pack on the front page of the mod launcher? because rn i cannot find a prop folder

[karmic musk]

assets are under the asset browser. I don't think the vanilla editor comes with assets and you will need to download the specific ones you want from the missions.

[eager ginkgo]

also do props already have collision or do i have to manually add a collision box to each prop like in the bo3 radiant tool

[karmic musk]

Most props from what I've noticed already have collision boxes around them.

[eager ginkgo]

nice, one last question
lets say i want to hop into my level to see if the size dimensions of a room is correct etc, how would I go by doing that? is there like a "test mod" thing I'm not seeing or do I have to package the mod every time?

[lavish apex]

btw some props have funky collision when walking over them so you might want to remove their clip models and add a brush with the clip texture

build the map in the worldview tab, and type slowmap MAP_NAME in the console

[eager ginkgo]

so like

slowmap MAP_NAME {insert map name here}

[lavish apex]

no, slowmap {insert map name}

[eager ginkgo]

thank youu

[eager ginkgo]

oh thats fine, i dont think you ever walk on a prop in the actual game anyways

i love brushes 😋

[lavish apex]

it's just incase you up replacing things like floor brushes with actual models of floors/bridges/etc.

[eager ginkgo]

true, thanks for helping

[eager ginkgo]

just to be 100% on the same page, are u refering to the "Build" tab into ----> "Slow map build only [Default]"

[lavish apex]

yea, slowmap will build the geo (and is the fastest to build), otherwise you can use the build wizard if you need to build things like navmesh,lightmaps,etc.

[eager ginkgo]

cool cool

[fathom topaz]

how do you replace burshes with meshes?

[lavish apex]

you just add models from the model browser and remove the brushes

[fathom topaz]

is there a way to move the edge/face of a brush to make ramps?

nvm, ctrl+e fo anyone who needs it

[hasty oyster]

so i am trying to replace the descructable gibs texture. I found one called Nuggets, but it changes everything else. noob question but how do i attach a texture to the model? am i making sense?

the generic nuggets apply to to the same gibs for multiple monsters

it jsut wont let me change the surface

[hasty oyster]

"Displays all of the surface information (materials, textures) related to the model; click these to manipulate individually" but it dont work

[karmic musk]

there's a mod that replaces the eternal revenant with the 2016 version.

[halcyon stratus]

It's not a straight port, which I prefer. I do like Eternal's shoulder launchers better. The skull ornaments are metal as fuck.

[south wasp]

As mentioned, IK is used for AI feet to touch the ground properly, so they don't look like they're floating on steps. Invers Kinematics, check it out, it's a cool technique

[keen urchin]

hey can someone help me with a modded multiplayer issue I've been having?

[south wasp]

Thow out your issue, see if anyone can

[valid yacht]

IDTECH sure had a long way huh?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MmJ8NVLji84

[astral kernel]

is there a way to transfer nexus mods to the new doom mod launcher?

[halcyon stratus]

What's that? Edit the .decl?

[zealous wharf]

Any recomendations on master level mods?

[versed herald]

i think you should try changing it

[halcyon stratus]

Is the floor brush meant to be non-selectable after you build the navmesh?

Okay... so I deleted every brush, but the floor brush refused to go for some reason. I couldn't select it either and it wouldn't show up in the World Editor. The nav group also didn't exist apparently (?), so I tried 'select > all brushes' and the SDK crashed with no error prompt.

Guess I should leave the nav mesh for last, seems a fair bit finnicky. At least I hadn't made any real progress with my map yet.

[heavy torrent]

I have a sudden need to change it, should I?

[empty bobcat]

can you select it by clicking on group?

[halcyon stratus]

Potentially dumb question- why are some of the material2 assets appearing as pure white/not applying when I select them? Is it because I didn't install all the asset packs?

[halcyon stratus]

I just deleted the whole thing. I'm starting over which I needed to do anyways :p.

[empty bobcat]

can we use IK or clip as nav mesh?

we can't extruding brushes, right?

moving vertices is PAIN

what happend to this geo here XD

I wanted to cover this are with nice clipping brush, but it's not fun if you can't extrude faces

[heavy torrent]

hold a vert and press ctrl + g to snap it to grid

[empty bobcat]

those bunch of vertices there don't want to snap

[heavy torrent]

that is why you need to select them before using the shortcut

[empty bobcat]

how to select group of vertices?

[heavy torrent]

hold alt and drag

[empty bobcat]

doesn't work with alt

I'm holding alt in here, and when I'm outside the brush nothing happens, when I'm above it I just move whole brush

the cross cursor is becoming invisible on video

and when moving single vertex geo likes to tear

and after dragging I got vertices on edges

[heavy torrent]

yeah just checking, they sure did change controls since idtech4, my bad

snapping to grid will still work when you are dragging a vertex

[empty bobcat]

yes, I remember it works normal in DOOM 3, but here I'm struggling with it and wasting a lot of time. I should get ready this map long time ago 🙂

[halcyon stratus]

Why are some kits just flatout not showing up?

[empty bobcat]

notice they are often out of center even few meters away

[halcyon stratus]

This is what I'm getting everytime I place like, 80% of them on my map.

Just a tiny box of nothing.

[empty bobcat]

sometimes it reminds me ancient technology - where you need to figure out what is this for, and how to use it 🙂

I know how to build this in prodeus or CSG Unity or in old radiant, but here doesn't work 😄

would be just easier to set Slayer much higher stepsize, hmm.....

[halcyon stratus]

Oh. I was dragging in stuff from the Model Assets folder, not Model FILES.

LOL.

[halcyon stratus]

How can I resize/stretch a kit? I want to stretch this hallway horizontally and vertically so as to fill up the whole space. The tutorial on the site mentions it's doable as 'the level scale standards are based on powers of two, the kit pieces should fit together easily' but I can't find a function.

[unborn ingot]

Press R to scale it

[halcyon stratus]

God bless. Must've missed it on an earlier step because I couldn't see that mentioned in the kit article page.

[empty bobcat]

cool kit - full corridor with sides and top/botto. What is its name?

Sometimes when I switch to decals editor, in assets browser I have no decals to use 😦

it should switch to decals assets, but it doesn't

and if I go there manualy, they don't work

refreshing folder doesn't help

[halcyon stratus]

art/kit/hell_earth/uac/super_pipehall_a

Unfortunately I've no place for it right now as I'm putting my starting area together using another series of prefabs, maybe another couple rooms ahead.

Not bad, tbh.

I'm thinking of a map with classic Doom 1 style progression. Nonlinear, keyhunting, incidental combat, no weapon mods, mostly fodder and moderate ammo amounts. No SSG.

I wanna figure out how to recolor things like walls and stuff, maybe in due time. Only picked this up today after all.

I only now realized I'm slightly ripping off the start of Doom 2's MAP10, lol. Not intentional by any means, just something I found funny.

[empty bobcat]

looks cool

[empty bobcat]

I didn't find option to recolor it, only emissive materials.

[empty bobcat]

I love Refueling Base 🙂

[unborn ingot]

its looking really good

[vital lichen]

what in hell is this big-ass thing?

nvm, its a teleporter

it's a teleporter for a "invasion" thing, could it be the that never implemented mode?

[empty bobcat]

how to make wet surfaces? I thought if we set rain on map it will affect everything.

also rain drop in interriors too 😄

[empty bobcat]

did someone built skybox? With GI?

or how to build skydome with Global Illuminaton light?

[tight hinge]

I made a custom skybox for my level with GI I think

[eager ginkgo]

does doom eternal DLC reuse assets? because I'm going through the assets to download for the editor and there aren't any for the DLC maps

[empty bobcat]

yes, there are no assets or maps for dlc to download, probably they share something

[empty bobcat]

looking cool!
BTW. how to change mode for mancubus? When I put on map mancubus I got cyber mancubus, I want noncyber mancubus version.

[tight hinge]

I haven't spawned demons yet since I'm still working on the beginning area

[empty bobcat]

ok, I see there are "fire" and "goo" mancubus

yeah 😄

[tight hinge]

btw here are some interior pics

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1165007159231262773/1273420431105200219/image.png?ex=66c329f1&is=66c1d871&hm=58bee22fac2d07c03abf40a7f9ba762370061d70ac45a1af525a635b1d129975&

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1272624741848715279/1273424309733556306/image.png?ex=66c32d8e&is=66c1dc0e&hm=d446980c31de4e8fb69d403afe1b9a4e405edcab8dcbb71b739a935651b3e900&

[tight hinge]

btw this isn't how you are supposed to do it, you aren't meant to have multiple idAI2 entities, you are supposed to use spawn entities and spawn groups

[eager ginkgo]

im new to this, what is he doing wrong, is he suppose to use spawn group nodes something similiar to doom snapmap?

instead of having individual mancubus entity

[tight hinge]

yeah pretty much, you only need one idAI2 mancubus entity and then you would create idTarget_Spawn entities that reference that idAI2

that way you can use the spawners multiple times

[empty bobcat]

oh, I didn't now that

[empty bobcat]

where is this function?

[tight hinge]

new entity: target/spawn

[empty bobcat]

ok, what next?

seriously even such easy thing like spanw enemies must be complicated? 😄

I used spawns, target mancubi, now mancubi vanished and nothing happens

so I have to this that way? https://idstudio.idsoftware.com/gameplay/gameplay-framework/encounter-manager/create-an-encounter

[karmic musk]

I believe you only need 1 mancubus. And you put a spawn box in the locations where you want a demons to spawn. There you can tell the spawn box to tell which demon to spawn. At least from what I understand.

[eager ginkgo]

oh so the 1 mancubus is like a template for every mancubus in the level?

[karmic musk]

You don't have to have the AI in the map, it can be floating around somewhere. Basically it's just there as a reference for the spawn box/group/whatever

[karmic musk]

I believe for each area/encounter

I'm not 100% sure, but that's what I get from looking at the maps.

[eager ginkgo]

yeah like an arena encounter

[karmic musk]

yep

[empty bobcat]

yeah, I saw that. Maaaaannn, why like this 😄

[eager ginkgo]

thats how games do it

[karmic musk]

Resource usage lol

[eager ginkgo]

I love the dev textures, the gray/orange grid combination

it just goes so hard

[karmic musk]

I think your right about this. I wanted to double check with cultist base. But I see mostly just 1 demon ai floating around. They do have them separated into groups though. I think 1 set is for the master level and the other is for the regular level? Who knows, but I think your right about just having the spawn reference just 1 AI for the same demon for the whole level.

makes sense from an optimization standpoint

[eager ginkgo]

and its just easier to organise instead of having multiple individual entities with its own properties scattered all over

also how do you open the campaign levels in the editor?

i wanna see how they done it

[vital lichen]

it's easier for engines to draw them once when the level loads and later duplicating it rather than drawing it everytime

do you guys think my level needs more closed areas?

*arena

i think it's too open

[eager ginkgo]

that looks so good! is that all brushes?

like the arches

[vital lichen]

I made a blok-out of the map with brushes

now I'm replacing everything with assets

[vital lichen]

here's how it looked with only brushes

[eager ginkgo]

oh thats cool

[maiden mica]

Nice work, reminds me of The Dark Mod

[vital lichen]

Haven't seen this one

[maiden mica]

It is a Doom 3 TC where you play as a medieval thief

[vital lichen]

Looks cool, ngl

still gotta a lot of work to do, haven't even touched logic yet

[empty bobcat]

pretty cool sky, how did you do that?

[vital lichen]

it's a cloud skydome + slyers gate 2 enviroment

[hasty oyster]

back to figuring out how to change the surface of the destructibles, eeekkkkkk

[vital lichen]

hell yeah my dudes

[hasty oyster]

how do i get my custom nugget targa, onto the destructible chunks!! This is making me go mad

[unborn ingot]

That's looking so good

[empty bobcat]

awesome vista

[eager ginkgo]

Are the floating rocks part of the “skydome” ?

[vital lichen]

yeah

just a reference map

decidec to replace the ground layer with water. now it looks better

[tight hinge]

good stuff, is this only for one arena or a whole level?

[vital lichen]

one arena

i want to do more aneras

[eager ginkgo]

which folder are models found in 😭

[vital lichen]

"model Files"

[eager ginkgo]

model files into ---> "Models" ?

[vital lichen]

I think yes

Im away from the comouter so can't tell rn

[eager ginkgo]

found it

[vital lichen]

Nice

[tight hinge]

good stuff, mine is a whole level

actually, I was planning on making a whole prequel dlc between 2016 and eternal

[vital lichen]

My plan is to do my own horde mode

[vital lichen]

Amd are you going to do it?

[karmic musk]

probably just add some floating platforms in these areas.

[tight hinge]

I'll finish this level first then I will decide

Will take me months tho

[vital lichen]

I thought about it. Maybe I can add one on the lower side

[vital lichen]

My arena is taking me more than 20hrs and I haven't even touched logic nor enemies yet

[karmic musk]

Looks nice, glad to see a horde based map. I plan on making one as well.

skybox is perfect too

[vital lichen]

Hold on, this gave me an idea. Will try it tomorrow and we'll see how it fits. It's a bit linear now, I can change it

[tight hinge]

yeah my intro part took me 30 hours, mostly figuring out the map stuff

[vital lichen]

It's from the first slayer gate, for now it's just a placeholder but I plan on modifying it heavy

[tight hinge]

my idea was a level in space, and when you are outside of the facilities you have low gravity

[vital lichen]

Can it be done?

[tight hinge]

yeah I think so

[vital lichen]

The low gravity part

[tight hinge]

there are gravity volumes

[vital lichen]

Because last thing I saw, gravity is controlled by world entity

[vital lichen]

Oh cool, make it work!!

[tight hinge]

sure, maybe if possible I'll try an arena with zero gravity

that would be interesting

[vital lichen]

I'd like to see how it works

My first idea for a horde mod was a map that starts small but as you go making progress you unblock new map areas and ends up being a big arena

[tight hinge]

I also made a custom particle system to notify the player when gravity changes

[vital lichen]

Looks cool

[drifting rain]

hello there, does anyone know a fix for the pc mod preview? My game keeps crashing at the bethesda screen when i click on play doom eternal with mods. I can play the base game just fine but even wiyth no mods active it keep crashing

[prisma vector]

Try check files in steam. Are you on Linux or windows?

[drifting rain]

windows

[prisma vector]

There's your problem right there LOL.

[atomic bay]

Doom 2016 has a Multiplayer map in an open space station, with normal gravity inside and reduced gravity (and muffled audio?) outside. That should still work in Doom Eternal.

[hasty oyster]

you guys are doing cool shit, and im still stuck tryiing to change the gorestuff.

[vital lichen]

Never played Doom 2016 multiplayer, sadly, but good to see it's doable

[tight hinge]

it's 100% doable

offwine did it in his cultist base ml

always wanted a level that took advantage of that honestly

[vital lichen]

Fuck it, i'm gonna do it. After a couple of rounds, i'll make new islands spawn in there next to the main island

[eager ginkgo]

erm how do u exit the game engine window again

[karmic musk]

alt + tab

or even bringing up the console with ~

[eager ginkgo]

ok so im trying to hop into my map to see the size dimensions and all i see around me is a dark void

i imagine i need to put in some kind of temp light entity ?

[karmic musk]

did you add a player starting point?

Yeah, you need to add a point light as well.

f3 on the keyboard when in the 3d window to see your map, it will give you a realtime look of your map.

[vital lichen]

Tip, use "reference guy" to see how big is your map when you're editing

[eager ginkgo]

im using a t posing imp

[karmic musk]

you know whats funny. I've been scaling my horde map I've been working on with a tyrant. Mostly because I don't want them to get stuck or w/e.

I didn't even know there was a reference guy. That's good to know

[vital lichen]

Keep in mind imps are lower than the player

[vital lichen]

Hahahaha

It's a t-posing gray guy with less polygons than a half life 1 scientis

[karmic musk]

so we now have intern guy, and now reference guy.

[vital lichen]

low polygon guy

[eager ginkgo]

wait what how do u get the ref guy

is there a way to play the map without lights but still be able to see everything? for like quick testing etc

[vital lichen]

Set up a enviroment

[empty bobcat]

you can still play with bots 🙂

[vital lichen]

And link the enviroment in the wolrd entity

[empty bobcat]

yeah bringing down the console is the best

[vital lichen]

That's not fun... 😔

[empty bobcat]

better than playing with cheaters 😦

[vital lichen]

Assets browser, "reference", drag it into tje map

[vital lichen]

Yeah, true

Do still people play there?

[empty bobcat]

ladies and gentlemans I did my first encounter (I almost get mental doing this, but I did it :D)

Now I need arachnotrons, guns, lighting, sky, script for player and tons others 😄

[vital lichen]

Holy shit I wanna get there

[vital lichen]

You're getting there!!

[empty bobcat]

they killed me in 2 secs 😄

[vital lichen]

Damn

[empty bobcat]

original map is hard too 🙂 I wanted all monster same spawned as in original 😄 But Slayer is super slow comparing to DOOM Marine from DOOM II, he needs dash

[karmic musk]

make the slayer faster.

[vital lichen]

You can make enemies spawn after you killed a few and not appear all at once

[empty bobcat]

I don't know how

[vital lichen]

Logic designer (?)

[empty bobcat]

no, no, no - in original there 6 mancubus at once + 2 imps 🙂

[karmic musk]

or you can put in some haste/overdrive powerup I forgot what its called

[vital lichen]

Shit

[empty bobcat]

I can't find this player statement

[empty bobcat]

that I can do this 🙂

[karmic musk]

maybe put in multiple haste/overdrive powerups so you can keep cycling them when you run out.

Like 4 on each side

[vital lichen]

Oh

[empty bobcat]

in original there are invisibility spheres - I can replace them with haste! That's a good idea!

OMG I need to learn how to add custom music, so I can put original music for this 👀

Shawn's got the shotgun? THat was the name?

[karmic musk]

I would love to put metal: hellsinger music in, but pretty sure that would be DCMA lol

[eager ginkgo]

ermm there is no "reference folder" in the assets browser window

[empty bobcat]

well, DE music is goat too 🙂

[karmic musk]

'This Devastation' would be amazing to listen to while slaying demons.

[eager ginkgo]

nvm i found it, its "scale guy"

[empty bobcat]

Noted to check 🙂
Soon:

he is waiting for his "encounter"

[karmic musk]

The game is great, there are some level design elements from the game that could work good with doom eternal tbh.

[empty bobcat]

I'd love to see classic model for arachnie 🙂

When I first time saw DE trailer with those arachnotrons my jaw dropped down 😄 I love them so much (and hate too XD)

[halcyon stratus]

What map is that?

[halcyon stratus]

God that's cool.

[vital lichen]

That's where you first met the marauder, moments before the underground arena

[halcyon stratus]

Dang, I need that ceiling. Is it a kit?

[vital lichen]

Most certainly yes

[hasty oyster]

i did something bad, when the hellknight landed, it spawn zombies until the game crashed. there had to be 60 of them

And here is another question fo rthe experts, how do i change the blood spillage on the ground. What is that called exactly? The gibs that drop also do this as well as dead monsters

in classic doom, you see it when you shoot the monsters, blood decals i beleive

[empty bobcat]

So I got encounter, how to make another encounter and trigger after it ends...

[hasty oyster]

dreadknight has its own set of gibs, i will try to copy that for the normal hellknight, but it just isn't working. I think im going to post my mod regardless. hope i can solve this dilemna

[empty bobcat]

all scripts working 😄 Now I need sky and lighting 😄

and gameplay polish 🙂 Slayer is so slow

[hasty oyster]

some pretty coold 2016 models put up in the browser.

[tight hinge]

low gravity is working

[empty bobcat]

how ligt probe works in DE?

[hasty oyster]

going to put my WiP mod up. Here are the screenshots. I still can't edit certian parts of the monsters. Will need further investigations. Green Bloodied Hell Knights