eternal-modding

[lethal plume]

Just thought it was odd that it does not have this option

at least on my install

[pallid marlin]

you can not move to x:/idstudio

i have uhd display res and uhd resolution with 175 resolution scale and when picking launcher -> mods -> grid to 50 it breaks the drawer for that browser 🙂

and overall each run it unlogs be from bethesda

shout out to the alpha testing team ;}

[pallid marlin]

you're clicking it wrong apparrently

[lethal plume]

dunno, I dont need to move it just weird i didnt have the option. I have eternal/idstudio on one drive and all the other directories mods/idstudio mods/asset packs on another drive. No crashes since i freed up hd space and started launching idstudio from the launcher.

[pallid marlin]

so how did you move studio to proper location

[lethal plume]

click select folder

[pallid marlin]

sorry, english is not my main language: how did you moved idstudio steam installation folder

i know how to point it to the launcher i don't know how to make steam use other path than the one it usually uses to install jazz downloaded from steam

[lethal plume]

i didnt move the steam install

just where mods and assets are stored

[pallid marlin]

https://tenor.com/view/mmmkay-mr-mackey-south-park-s20e1-member-berries-gif-20603930

[lethal plume]

Steam apps on other drives will have the same directory structure. The only different structure would be on a windows drive under program files (x86) \steam and then steamapps\common\gamename

[pallid marlin]

indeed, so you see that is in contradiction to that description from 'save path' screen

[cyan quartz]

So idStudio is just blank every time I open it. Anyone know what to do about this?

[pallid marlin]

wait for it, it's big 🙂 use debugview :]

[cyan quartz]

I just wanna get all my mods prior to the update transferred over lmao

[cyan quartz]

How do I do that? I legit have no idea what I'm doing

[pallid marlin]

so just wait, should open - even on my power horse pc it takes like 30 seconds to transition to next window

[cyan quartz]

That took, like, 2 minutes

Now just to figure out how to import the old mods

[lethal plume]

got Q2 Remaster map made in Trenchbroom in idstudio

[cyan quartz]

Gonna try to get this skin imported

If anyone would like to let me know how to do that, that'd be appreciated, since, again, I have no idea what I'm doing

[lethal plume]

I used this method to convert q2 maps it worked great

[tough torrent]

Alright guys see you in 1 Year when the Doom Eternal modding tools install

[shy elm]

Guys how do I search for mods? And how do I add them

[pallid marlin]

there are additional 500gb of asseets too ;))

[pallid marlin]

https://www.youtube.com/live/Dw7dSvzsiNc?feature=shared&t=4793 tutorial

[shy elm]

Thanks! I play on steam. Where is this so called Doom eternal launcher

[pallid marlin]

you need to change to beta branch

mods are beta

[shy elm]

okay thank you

is nexus better right now? or should I use this

[pallid marlin]

whatever floats your boat i guess

[pallid marlin]

haha that's save location not the studio itself god damn

[cyan quartz]

I'd say with the offical modding still being in beta, and not having anywhere near as many mods, maybe wait and use Nexus. However, with time, the offical modder will definitely become superior

[limber terrace]

Yo Soma, fancy meeting you here...

[pallid marlin]

you were right, still downloading paks and gathering all the scaterred info that was not said during streams and is not in docs

[limber terrace]

backwards and incomplete - but lets let the kids have their fun

[lethal plume]

Does anyone know what the max step height for Doom Slayer

If i hit them just right he walks up

[valid yacht]

oh fuck me, i do know this, as i recently adjusted that value ingame, lemme try to remember/find it

[lethal plume]

I should have measured them before shutting down editor

[cyan quartz]

I just wanna know how to port over my old mods prior to the update

[valid yacht]

There u go @lethal plume

Based on the ingame CVAR:
pm_stepsize | maximum height the player can step up without jumping {{ units = m }} | "0.3048"| float

Excel spreadsheet with 7397 CVARS - In case anyone needs to lookup values:

It contains:

• All default + extra CVAR's (thanks to meathook)
• Descriptions (if set by idSoftware)
• Current values (i had in my live game)
• CVAR Type (bool, float etc.)

Needs some office software to be opened (MS Office, LibreOffice, OpenOffice etc.)

[lethal plume]

Thank you! That will come in handy.

[cyan quartz]

Need me my cosmetics, weapon tweaks, and removed 1-UPs

Or at least the removed 1-UPs

[pallid marlin]

was this asked?? can the modes me used in de "multiplayer"

[valid yacht]

You should not play battlemode with any modifications/mods/alterations.
As this can/will lead to a permanent ban. While some mod's are market as "Multiplayer Safe", i wont recommend playing Multiplayer with anything than a clean, nonmodified, installation.

[pallid marlin]

damn that's like giving someone nice car but without keys ;]

[valid yacht]

More like "not giving dum kids the keys to a nuclear reactor"

[pallid marlin]

kids did preety well with quake mods, et mods 🙂 but i get your point

[valid yacht]

cheating in DOOM 2016 is already a massive problem, that at least for me, killed it on PC

[stiff plaza]

And it's already dead pretty much everywhere else

[valid yacht]

yeah :/

[stiff plaza]

Unless you use TA, as I mentioned before, but that's off-topic

[limber terrace]

Anyone remember ÜberTools?

[plush thicket]

use clips brushes

gimme a sec, I will record video

[empty bobcat]

that's nothing comparing to size with armor steps in Hangar 😄

btw. how did you import QUAKE 2 map?

I copied my DOOM 3 hangar to DE map txt file :D, but D3 map was like 100+ meters size, I had to scale down it by hand, not great not terrible.

[valid yacht]

[plush thicket]

thats look great

[empty bobcat]

I have full geo, just need to texture it and grid some places. I built it in 2015 I guess 😄

[empty bobcat]

oooh, pro clipping

nice work

[plush thicket]

Reworked the the first arena

[empty bobcat]

real cool

[plush thicket]

this how official maps using clips

[empty bobcat]

I can't decide - making this hangar as original geo or make it in DE style.

I'm hardcore DOOM fan, I like original one 😄

[plush thicket]

people will like both

[empty bobcat]

I even found some fancy stairs for in assets:

[plush thicket]

those the hub stairs

[valid yacht]

Bring in some own design decisions maybe, that arent a 1:1 copy, but make people go "OHHHHH i recognize that!"

[karmic musk]

I like seeing levels coming together. :p I decided that re-creating unreal tournaments rankin as a horde/arena map should be a nice project.

[tough torrent]

Hey I have a question about save files

so how can I switch to use my normal save files and the ones for modding?

[plush thicket]

doom eternal have two executable, both have separated settings, saves slots, if you want play without mod click play doom eternal in menu

[lethal plume]

For that one I decompiled the q2 remaster version of The Edge opened up 2 instances of QUARK one in q2 and the other doom 3 copy pasted into doom3 saved .map and used that new converter. I also have been using TrenchBroom as long as it is not valve 220 and doing the same.

[empty bobcat]

ah, how to use that converter, I'm not familiar with such things. I downloaded it but dont' even know how to use it.

[empty bobcat]

Are curves/patches in idstudio?

[plush thicket]

curves ??

[cyan quartz]

Anyone know how to bring preexisting mods over?

[lethal plume]

Make sure you have .net 8 installed. After that just drag and drop a doom3 .map and it spits out a converted version that works with idstudio.

[empty bobcat]

like in QUAKE 3 and DOOM 3

bezzier's curves

[plush thicket]

there a table editor

[cyan quartz]

Please, I just wanna know how to do this. I know it's possible, cuz a lot of the mods I've seen came straight from Nexus

[empty bobcat]

ooh! Thanks

"table" what a name 😄

I found I got some assets thumbnails upside down 😄

[tranquil hull]

Anyone else having issues logging into bethesda.net to actually browse the mods?

[cyan quartz]

depends on what you mean by that

[empty bobcat]

works for me

[tranquil hull]

Like, in the launcher, every time I enter my user and password -both of which are correct-, I get an "invalid credentials" error.

[cyan quartz]

Yeah, I ain't running into that. i do have to re log-in every time I launch it, though

[frail orbit]

anyone know of any reason why I wouldnt be able to get idStudio to launch??? Any time I click launch in steam it turns blue for a few seconds and says stop, but then turns to a green launch button after awhile.

even in the new launcher I go to idstudio and click creat new mod and it attempts to load idStudio and then stops

[empty bobcat]

are you downloading assets maybe at that time?

I couldn't run idstudio when I was downloading assets

[frail orbit]

I am actually. I'll let this last one install and before doing the next one I will attempt again. Thank you @empty bobcat

[stiff plaza]

DOOM MARINE is the hero of this channel

[empty bobcat]

I was confused for the first time too, but than I found it's because I was downloading. Now I have them all 😄

[fluid hatch]

The keys to Snap to Grid don't seem to work right. it just turns off grid to me. How do we snap to grid?

[empty bobcat]

Do you use ctrl+G?

[fluid hatch]

ill try that ty

[empty bobcat]

best in 2d view I guess

[fluid hatch]

i was using 2d view

[empty bobcat]

I clicked ctrl+G here

are your brushes snaping to grid when you panning them?

[empty bobcat]

also:

https://idstudio.idsoftware.com/worldbuilding/editor-and-camera/world-editor-grid#using-the-default-grid

When you spent too much time in idstudio:

Do you know how undo texturing?

wip:

[halcyon stratus]

Yeah, the geo scale is all wrong and needs manual editing since it's raw data.

[halcyon stratus]

Looks great, love the hexagon floor tiles. Are those from the in-game assets?

[empty bobcat]

yes in textures I used "hex" or "hexagon". I don't know now properly cause I've just crashed, so for now I back to Prodeus editor 😄

It's from DOOM 2016 in my Prodeus map :>

[mossy violet]

I found an easily reproducable memory leak. Create a new mod, new map. Editor sits at 12gb RAM used. It can sit there for however long. As soon as I create a single brush, my RAM is eaten over the course of less than 1 minute. So I go from 12gb used to 40gb in 1 min or less. I have 64gb, I submitted the crash report. The editor is unusuable for me given this.

[empty bobcat]

I had about 20+ crashes for now. I'm 32 gigs

[mossy violet]

yeah but as soon as a brush is created? that seems like something isn't right

[empty bobcat]

Totaly random. Few times only when rearanging windows, when scaling models, when just watching 2d view. I got now all assets, I thought it's the cause I had lack of them. I dunno. I never had problems with QUAKE 4/D3. RAGE liked crashes too.
There is no option to turn RT?
I made sexy puddle but it has only SSR

yeah it's gray out:

[tough torrent]

huh weird

[halcyon stratus]

People need to remember these tools are still in beta for a reason.

[tough torrent]

Yeah, hope this could get this fixed later down the road

I'm gonna check out the other stuff in the editor

[cyan quartz]

Yeah, I'm just gonna downgrade until everything is ported over

[indigo forge]

Hey, weird question. I understand the idea of "kits" but I am confused on how to use them. Are they a texture that you apply to a brush or are they an entirely new model? I have tried to find them in the kits folder but I had no luck.

[cobalt cipher]

Hey guys - How would I go about opening a campaign map file in the editor? I am looking and looking and looking and I cannot find anything

[tough torrent]

did you already download a campaign map?

[cobalt cipher]

Do I need to? I just want to look at making a master level for a map from the game, so is there a way to do that?

[cobalt cipher]

Oh I see it's in the asset packs in the launcher 🤦🏻‍♀️

[frail orbit]

Well after letting the last few I had qued up install without anything installing its still not letting me launch idStudio. ANy other ideas DOOM MARINE

[cobalt cipher]

Is it installed on the same drive as the game?

[frail orbit]

Yea I made sure of that right away

[lethal plume]

set up beta version in steam?

[frail orbit]

I opted in for the beta version and get the new launcher up. But when I click on creat new mod, it turns the button blue and says stop, but then a few seconds later it turns back to a green launch button

thanks for all the advice so far guys

[lethal plume]

Do any mods show up already under the create new mod in idStudio button?

[frail orbit]

Not currently.

[lethal plume]

If you launch the studio stand alone does it make it to the create a new mod pop-up?

[frail orbit]

No. Trying to launch it from steam standalone, It acts like it wants to launch. The Green Launch button turns to blue and says stop. But thats as far as it gets. A few seconds later it turns back to a green launch button just like when using the new launcher

[lethal plume]

The pop-up hides behind other windows if that helps. I dont think i ever seen it actualy show up without hunting it down

You could try to launch it (idStudio) with the parameters. Just replace the directories with the ones you set in the launcher.

[frail orbit]

awwww dang. I was really hoping thats all it was haha. No I cant find it anywhere either.

[cyan quartz]

Ok, does ANYONE know how to port over custom skins?

[plush thicket]

Did add any light probe ??

[cyan quartz]

here's just a couple skins I want to port over, and I can't find anything on doing so

[versed herald]

hope that one dark lord master level mod is ported

would be nice to have

[cobalt cipher]

RE: Campaign Maps - so far as I can tell, the map file appears to largely be locked down. I.E, existing triggers, models ect cannot be moved or altered. Can anybody confirm this for me?

[frail orbit]

Not going to lie you lost me there. I do see that same window pop up that you showed in that picture. each time i try to creat a new mod. But that little window doesnt pop open to name the mod and it doesnt go anywhere

[forest flame]

do you guys know a way that the mod launcher can remember you account credentials?

[lethal plume]

I have only looked at sp tutorial couldn't even select anything and the Hub you can select most brushes entities and volumes in it.

[modest obsidian]

Check this out, it might help you. Maps are arranged in layers. Youll need to find the layer that contains what you want to select. https://idstudio.idsoftware.com/worldbuilding/map-manager/index

[lethal plume]

Ah

[dark edge]

does modding doom in the new manager disable anything

[indigo forge]

To my knowledge, it only disables online services. However, your skins will work perfectly fine, along with most of the stuff. In-editor engine removes access to major video changes like Ray-Tracing, along with skins and the already disabled online services.

[astral kernel]

is a new mod injector being made?

[empty bobcat]

Someone here said he hasn't got full version of Eternal (he had only base game without dlc/deluxe) but I can't confirm it will help you and I don't know aren't you already deluxe owner. For now using tool is very frustrating mostly because random crashes.
@plush thicket For this scene I didn't. I tried to play with probe in test, but there was no difference for me in view. I need to look at reference map to learn something more from them.

[maiden mica]

Hello, I wanted to ask if anyone has gotten the modPortal to function correctly on the Steam Deck? For me it seems no mods download and get stuck on 0%, is it like a visual bug or steam deck filesystem issues

[empty bobcat]

Oh, hi! Full respect for you ma'am. I realy liked what you shown during QUAKECON. As many people in here we are with DOOM for a long time, and I was waiting a long time for new tool to play with in my fav series game ever. We need to learn new things comparing to DOOM 3 or RAGE idStudio and hope to see more in future. I crashed a lot during this weekend in idStudio, but I hope it will be fixed later.
I'd like to thank You and whole id software for this tool and all work you did for us in all game you did! Thank You a lot!

[halcyon stratus]

I think it would be for the better if those outdated mods were ported over using the new tools.

[empty bobcat]

@plush thicket can we somehow save part of ref map? Like this:

OH IT'S WORKING!

[waxen nymph]

this has been a CRAZY week

I wanna try these mods!

unfortunately my game is bugging out and everything is 30-40fps with choppy frame rates :(

[polar nexus]

yo, how is it going creating with the mods so far?

[valid yacht]

I absolutely adore the thought of more id software dev's pop in here from time to time to give us some tips or just chat about making stuff

only if they got some spare time and want to of course*

but man, thats honestly some next level for the community/developer love 💛🫂

[pallid marlin]

i don't like this that much - it's fun to chat with people working on it every day but i'd rather have all the 'tips' in the documentation or on they id yt channel with tutorials 😄

[valid yacht]

this is a chat app afterall no?!

[shrewd shard]

why not both?

[pallid marlin]

it's never both

i wish it was

[cobalt cipher]

Thank you so much, that helped me figure it out 🫡 😊

[unborn ingot]

I was loading up Idstudio and it blue screened my pc thank god its okay 😭😭

[polar nexus]

those developers did really a good job 👌🏾

[polar nexus]

damn…

[cobalt cipher]

It's in beta, give them time to polish any unknowns

[empty bobcat]

I hope a lot they will improve it. Probably they tested it only on their workbenches. Notice - maps are build only from models, not from brushes (they use them only for clipping/colision/shodow).

[unborn ingot]

It's just a problem with my pc only having 16gb of ram💀 also if you don't close the tools using steam I still notice some lags so I bet when I opened idstudio from the doom launcher there was another one in the background

[cobalt cipher]

What do you mean RE: maps?

[polar nexus]

one question; is it easy to create mods or no?

[cobalt cipher]

What do you want to make?

[polar nexus]

nah, i'm just asking how it goes

[cobalt cipher]

Well I think that probably depends on what you want to do. But these are the tools they made to make the game.

The documentation is helpful enough to onboard you, but it's definitely advanced

[polar nexus]

comprehensible. thx for telling me

[plush thicket]

You guys need to understand id software haven't release any tool for decede, the idstudio idtech 7 such a big heavy program we need to patience I know the devs working hard in this and they try their best

[lethal plume]

Those couple of tutorials in the documentation are nice. I made a bunch of tiny arachnotrons that were super fast and a purple bag lol

Bfg

[cobalt cipher]

Omg mini arachnotrons 😂

[lethal plume]

The gibs and glory animations are full sized

[empty bobcat]

yes ref maps, they are built from models not from brushes and models like DOOM 3/Q4

[empty bobcat]

sounds great 😄 post some screenies here 😄

[unborn ingot]

Anyone know how I can make my map open using the menu by clicking new game on dlc2

[lethal plume]

thats 10 .25 sized arachnotrons firing at 3 times their normal speed. it was blinding.

[lethal plume]

I did figure out how to use the environments. that is hell default env on an untextured conversion of Q2dm1 The Edge

[empty bobcat]

omg, it's something like in RAGE id studio, I guess

there was function - when you put them on map they chaged totaly visual effect

[empty bobcat]

how did you that? Via Decls?

[lethal plume]

i guess i did it right. made a big volume and yeeted the old sky brushes

[empty bobcat]

I have no idea how to make skybox - I can't find texture that acts as sky.

[lethal plume]

yeah, in the docs there are a few tutorials and changing size and speed of an enemy are there

[empty bobcat]

in id manual?

[lethal plume]

it is in the docs search for sky or environment'

[empty bobcat]

I read it but skipped parts about what I'm not interested in like animations and particle editor.

[lethal plume]

you can just right click and at the env volume

then go to env editor and set everything

[empty bobcat]

ENV EDITOR 👀

I liked in RAGE idSTudio you could paint with foliage (but it liked to crash)

[lethal plume]

Never messed with RAGE

i was old school QUARK and didnt start back till q2 Remaster last year and TrenchBroom

[empty bobcat]

it wasn't bad except ai didn't work (so couldn't make proper gameplay), totaly lack of assets (only few), no basic function, crashing and HUGE compilation times.

[lethal plume]

https://youtu.be/EGgATcQce8k?si=c2Zvb_aLB8CaoWxp

great things will come of this lol

[empty bobcat]

oh, yeah QUARK is real old thing, I only used it to extract some things.

[lethal plume]

yeah it is a good pak explorer for some games

[unborn ingot]

I don't have a life

[empty bobcat]

and good! DOOM is life 🙂

51 hours in weekend and part of friday 😄

I had about 20+ hours 😄

[tough torrent]

most normal modder playtimes

[grim bronze]

life is temporary DOOM is ETENAL

[lethal plume]

i only have 26hrs in the studio but i think the launcher is still running on another computer it is at 49hrs right now

[polar nexus]

can u add custom music to it as well? bob-omb music for example

[lethal plume]

I have the music for that level in at least a dopzen places on this computer lol

[polar nexus]

does it work? i'll prolly be surprised if it works

[lethal plume]

im guessing you can add any sound you want to a map

[exotic badge]

Does anybody know how to implement an end level trigger?

[zinc crypt]

Are there any brand new level mod made with modding tools? Apart from those 2 levels that were already there.

[unborn ingot]

there is a prefab for that

[exotic badge]

Can you please help me where can I find it?

[unborn ingot]

on the asset search bar search prefabs and I think its under gameplay or just search level end or something like that

its near the player start in the prefabs part

[exotic badge]

Ok, thanks, I'll try to find it

[tough torrent]

Is there a tool that can easily mass export png textures to tga? The Auto Heckin' Texture Converted link is dead

nvm found a link to it through doom wiki

[tough torrent]

okay how do I like import my tga textures?

[modest obsidian]

https://idstudio.idsoftware.com/working-with-art/importing-content - Materials

[tough torrent]

already looking at that, it's not really helpful as my model didn't import the tga files.

[lethal plume]

Sweet i can put my chain shield in the game

[atomic bay]

Is there a tool that can easily mass export png textures to tga? [...]
Supposedly something like ImageMagick can batch-convert lots of images at the same time?

[...] The Auto Heckin' Texture Converted link is dead
Auto Heckin' Texture Converter produces Doom Eternal-style BImage files (with the ".tga" file extension, because that's what Doom Eternal calls them), while idStudio uses standard Truevision TGA/TARGA images. Auto Heckin' Texture Converter doesn't work in tandem with idStudio, unfortunately.

[tough torrent]

ah

[lethal plume]

Wally is the fastest way I know to convert thousands of PNGs to TGAs.

[slender iron]

Maybe stupid question but why are fodder enemies immediately dying when i spawn them in? Do i have to set up some kind of encounter

[lethal plume]

You need to set up the Nav

quick answer is to grab all the floor faces and put them in a group called nav

The docs have the rest of the info i will look for a link

[prisma vector]

anyone know a good tutorial for learning modding in idstudio

[lethal plume]

https://idstudio.idsoftware.com/gameplay/ai/navigation-mesh

same link look in the Tutorial section

it has making enemies larger faster changing projectiles and particles basic my first mod stuff

[prisma vector]

thanks

[lethal plume]

np

[crystal path]

So after a lot of trial and error It's so much easier to just replace the tentacle base assets with floor assets that blend in lol. Less issues that way xD

[crimson void]

anyone tried to make the Battlemode demon skins usable in singleplayer?

[lethal plume]

I thought the battlemode assets were still locked away in a pak for now

[fleet gyro]

someone know how to use fov scale on weapons since mod injector doesnt work?

[lethal plume]

hands_fovScale ?

i dunno just seen it in the cvar list]

#eternal-modding message

[fleet gyro]

yea thanks

[empty bobcat]

Hmm, I'm struggling a bit with movers (I used radiant 15 years ago last time). I'm reading right now idStudio documentation, but my mover doesn't work, and more - I got an error when saving a map. Can someone explain me how the mover works?

[pseudo jasper]

Anyone else having the issue of the id studio install not showing up in the eternal launcher? I installed it but the launcher is still telling me that no installation is found

[plush thicket]

Anyone having problem with diamond_plate material not working, install hell on earth assets should work

[empty bobcat]

let me check I got all assets

[slender iron]

This image from the documentation is interesting. Is this like an older version of idstudio for the original doom 4 or something?

[plush thicket]

that doom 2016

[empty bobcat]

this one?

[plush thicket]

yep

[empty bobcat]

I found I got some missing models assets (but I forgot whichone).

But I have all assets downloaded too.

[empty bobcat]

looks like I got them all

[empty bobcat]

in light docs there are shots from Wolfenstein 2 🙂

[lethal plume]

i could see them but not apply them so i just used other materials

I do not have all the assets downloaded.

or did not at the time. I think i have Hub and Hell on earth now

[empty bobcat]

did you guys find any DOOR texture? I mean tech base style door? I couldn't but at least I found some door model.

[empty bobcat]

no, sorry

holy moly, I accidentaly made a sky 😄

[lethal plume]

NIce. I was very happy when i deleted the roof off of Q2dm1 and could see the Hell sky for the first time.

[empty bobcat]

I was playing with Environment Editor, but I was inside buididng, and I thought something doesn't work, now I just go out and found this 🙂

[empty bobcat]

Can you see sky in map when playing from game menu/campaign? I only see it in editor. In game I have black.

[lethal plume]

Yeah i can

did you add the volume?

[empty bobcat]

oh, yes I forgot, I deleted it.

[lethal plume]

https://idstudio.idsoftware.com/worldbuilding/map-building-blocks/environment-areas#create-an-environment-area

if you are flying around in noclip once you are out of the volume it will disapear. I havent played with multiple areas yet.

[empty bobcat]

I was doing this tutorial, but I was inside, cause I thought it's some kind of env probe like, so after I saw no different I deleted volume, but environment editor was set.

[pseudo ferry]

hey, quick question but idk if it will be answered. will our save data and cosmetics etc. be able to be brought over into modded gameplay? I would like to have access to everything to make modding easier in general and so I don't have to go through everything again.

[lethal plume]

I am guessing the answer is maybe. If the mod doesn't conflict with save data. I have loaded saves as I made changes to the game and no problems so far. It is still early.

[pseudo jasper]

is there a way to close the engine tab so i dont have the mod running in the background?

[lethal plume]

good question

i just hit escape and pretend it is not there lol

That has got to be a lot of resources idling there

[pseudo jasper]

yeah

ideally i wouldnt want to have the game running while im editing things because of the performance cost

[lethal plume]

if you quit to desktop does it close the editor?

[pseudo jasper]

yeah

[lethal plume]

I enjoy haveing it running. i just click the tab and reload the map

nice to instantly test map and game changes

It would take so long to start up each time. Not a problem with old games even the quake remasters start in single digit seconds with the right launch parameters.

If i could close it i dont think i would. But thats just me and going by like 4 days of workflow.

[vernal dagger]

does anybody know why static lights appear to not affect doors? (or am I doing something wrong)

[cobalt cipher]

It might require you to build the lighting, I'm not sure though it's just an educated guess

[vernal dagger]

I've already built the lighting

just doesn't seem to be working with the door for some reason

[lethal plume]

any light options in the entity browser for the door model?

[vernal dagger]

There are but they don't seem to be necessary, I looked at some of the doors on the makyr level and they didn't have anything other than default settings

[valid yacht]

Anyone can recommend or found a basic tutorial video yet?

[lethal plume]

The tuts in the docs are pretty good but not much beyond making a room and changing some enemy and weapon attributes.

[white lichen]

Same issue for me. Nothing wants to download and it's stuck at 0%. Still waiting for someone to figure out how to get this working on Steam Deck.

[maiden mica]

Although it's not a native release, maybe id will still look into it

[karmic musk]

perfectly normal chaos with godmode on lol.

[crystal path]

Okay after much trial and error I have a perfect workflow for removing the tentacles from the campaign maps. Now comes the ultimate question. Is it possible to make one mod that applies to all maps in idstudio without destroying my RAM or would it be best to just make each mod seperate due to how big the map assets are on the RAM?

Also I went to change the games resolution and this happened how do I restart the engine tab?

[cobalt cipher]

You probably could do it and I doubt it would have much impact on the tools performance honestly. Just open one map up at a time and do what you need to do.

When you package the mod, it should save all the changes you made to each map.

But you really don't like the tenticles, huh? 😅

[vernal dagger]

I've noticed this happens with a lot of the graphics settings atm (happened when I turned off Vsync) I just restarted the editor entirely

[crystal path]

Nope. Those things pop out so suddenly it's the only thing that makes me jump really badly rofl

[crystal path]

Thinking about it....can we even edit the rendering pipeline for DE in the editor?

Unless the rendering settings that the game offers aren't on a pipeline level

[hasty oyster]

Need to test a mod, what do i do? I am just making edits to a hellknight. i need to download a level asset first?

oh wow look at all these videos, looks like my week and weekend is fucked

[forest flame]

is the raytracing requiered for the idStudio?

i got this error

[hasty oyster]

Hell Knights Bleed Green! I need to also edit some other parts because it isn't all green yet.

i should probably check out the caco too see a clue how it works. Also spurts of blood from chainsaw and blood punch need to be looked into

[lavish apex]

does anyone know how to make new campaign use a custom map instead of hell on earth?

[forest flame]

i have this exact same problem, anyone knows why?

[hasty oyster]

next stage of evolution

[static sleet]

Did they ever say what the full release of the mod tools will be? If so will we have access to the multiplayer side of the game?

[tough torrent]

I dunno
gonna assume it will move out of beta once all the asset packs for the dlc and maybe battlemode are available to modders, plus the editor oddities get ironed out and user qol updates.

[hasty oyster]

I hope they add doom 2016 assets in some form. It would be a bitch to get them ported to idtech7 but worth the effort imo

[empty bobcat]

there are not lot of interest and it will for decrease in next weeks. Idstudio YT channel has less than 200 subscribers. I just hope they will not abandon us 🙂 Meanwhile - fast texturing:

For now there is no proper lighting, I just need strong light to see what I'm doing 🙂

[halcyon stratus]

More like not everyone has the patience to learn their way around the SDK or meets the hardware requirements in order to do so. It's a whopping 500gb for all the assets required to fully deck out a level. It's not a compromise everyone is willing to make bar the tech know-how level required for entry.

We've also got people working on a Doom 3 to idTech7 map conversion tool, another one for Quake 1/2 maps, a handful of Nexus mods being ported over and ready to download on the launcher, and a fucking WIP 1:1 recreation of Bob-Omb Battlefield, all in the timespan of 3 days after the tools were released. I don't know what you'd consider 'a lot of interest' but I'd say we're lucky if anything that we've already come this far.

[slender iron]

man i cannot get models i import to display the right material
the material preview works and the material .decl definitely matches the name exported from blender

[empty bobcat]

A lot of interesting is 100k subscribers to YT channel

not 200. You understand no company will work for 200 or 1000 people for free, right?

[halcyon stratus]

No way you seriously believe the success of ID's efforts is measured in subscriber count lmao.

They have... 12 videos that barely cover 5% of what can be done with the editor by reading up on tutorials.

[hazy glen]

Whats the Channels name?

[stiff plaza]

Check the pins

[hazy glen]

Thanks man👍

[unborn ingot]

Well Id studio can't be abonded there isn't any big issues with it and if your struggling to run it well just deal with it they won't update it much

[hazy glen]

They probably won't have update the editor as much cuz Doom Eternal is complete I'm guessing?

[vital lichen]

It depends on how many players actually do modding

If they see it gets a lot of attraction, they might want to keep it updated

Write better documentation, open other parts of the engine, optimize idstudio...

And if it goes well, they might release modding suport for Doom The Dark Ages at launch or shortly before

Keep in mind that modding is one of the most important aspects of the Doom franchise after all, historically speaking

Just a fun fact, Doom Eternal got official mod support before Minecraft. Guess which one of both sold more copies

[lethal plume]

I used the doom3 to eternal converter for both of these The edge and Thwomps castle.

Thwomps castle was obj >q1 map>q2 map> q2 bsp > q2 map > doom3 map> doom eternal map lol the bsp step was not needed just testing something.

[waxen nymph]

Is there a way to add a mini map for these custom levels?

[lethal plume]

There is a way to produce an svg of quake1/2 bsps i dont know for eternal yet

[vital lichen]

The dev wiki doesn't say anything about minimaps

Kinda barebones yet

[unborn ingot]

I hope when it comes out of beta they will release blood harvester map it would be so awesome

[pallid marlin]

don't forget multiplayer and demo scene, but mostly multiplayer - ability to take pc to your friends house and play on lan or make a lan turney at school [even i made and participated in few] do overall esports

and for quake custom servers were what made it really "eternal"

[prisma vector]

Yall I'm so confused

Didn't steam release workshop for doom eternal?

When I look up doom eternal workshop, nothing comes up

[wary estuary]

Under tools my dude.

[atomic bay]

No. Doom Eternal's official mods are hosted outside of the Steam Workshop. If you opt into the PC Mod Preview beta branch on Steam, then Doom Eternal has a new launcher; navigate to the "Mods" tab, sign into your Bethesda.Net account, and then you can browse for and download mods.

[lethal plume]

Is there a place to set the default brush material? If i wanted to make all created brushes with shadowcaster material.

[empty bobcat]

QUAKE 1 map E1M1 almost full ported and playable! (but I can't run it)

Can we edit downloaded maps or mods?

[hazy glen]

Daaam I wish they could Doo a steam workshop at some point, oh well

[vital lichen]

yeah

[midnight hedge]

How do you edit the textures of demon's or weapons? I can recolor the .tga of them and have the edit appear in the model viewer but when I test the mod they just appear without any edits.

[lethal plume]

im not sure yet. i have only changed particles and projectiles so far

were you testing in the editor engine or packing up the mod and launching full game or sandbox

I think the mod files are stored in dif locations. Acticve mods and what not

if that even makes a dif

[vital lichen]

good theory

[midnight hedge]

packing the mod and launching it with the test mod button. the idea was to make the shotgun base have a red hue to it instead of gunmetal grey. It appears when I am using the animated model viewer. But that's it.

[lethal plume]

check it out in the editor engine tab

make a little test box map

[midnight hedge]

Ok

[pseudo narwhal]

Has anyone had any luck importing textures? I just get these errors in console when trying to select the image in the material editor

Generating image:art/meowcat/metal046b/metal046b_2k-png_color2.tga$streamed$mtlkind=albedo:NONE into generated/image/art/meowcat/metal046b/metal046b_2k_png_color2.tga$streamed$mtlkind_albedo.bimage
WARNING: Couldn't load image: art/meowcat/metal046b/metal046b_2k-png_color2.tga while loading generate:art/meowcat/metal046b/metal046b_2k-png_color2.tga$streamed$mtlkind=albedo from image:art/meowcat/metal046b/metal046b_2k-png_color2.tga$streamed$mtlkind=albedo
WARNING: image:art/meowcat/metal046b/metal046b_2k-png_color2.tga$streamed$mtlkind=albedo:NONE Couldn't load image: art/meowcat/metal046b/metal046b_2k-png_color2.tga while loading image:art/meowcat/metal046b/metal046b_2k-png_color2.tga$streamed$mtlkind=albedo
WARNING: container entry defaulted image:art/meowcat/metal046b/metal046b_2k-png_color2.tga$streamed$mtlkind=albedo:NONE: Couldn't load image: art/meowcat/metal046b/metal046b_2k-png_color2.tga while loading loadBinary:art/meowcat/metal046b/metal046b_2k-png_color2.tga$streamed$mtlkind=albedo from image:art/meowcat/metal046b/metal046b_2k-png_color2.tga$streamed$mtlkind=albedo```

[lethal plume]

before making the decl or as you are making it?

https://idstudio.idsoftware.com/working-with-art/importing-content#materials

I havent tried importing materials yet

[midnight hedge]

So maybe the reason my texture mod for shotgun was not appearing was due to having no level to test on. Hence why the test mod reverts to the original state. If true that means I have to download the hell on earth map asset before any modification works.

[lethal plume]

I think there are some asstes already loaded

i had already made some rooms before dl any asset packs

[pallid marlin]

my tin foil hat theory is that after de dlc and some more re-releases of antics will come next id game that will be esports focused [hopefully new proper Quake] with full mod support from the start and they are giving now the id community the heads up on the tools - plus since that twt https://twitter.com/ID_AA_Carmack/status/1308069857913720832 i hope this will happen with JC and Romero on board with NIN soundtrack ofc 🙂 tin foil hat out 😄

[shrewd shard]

idk if I agree with that, but it's an interesting theory.
I can see a new Quake game in the future, in fact, it's the thing I wish for most, but I don't see them going back down the route of esports/multiplayer focus. QC has performed awfully, and no matter the why's and wherefores, I don't imagine they want to entertain that kind of thing again too soon.
I can kiiiiiind of see Carmack returning to play in the sand for some future AAA stuff, and Romero perhaps doing something else, although less likely imo, but I don't see them teaming up any time soon lol
NiN however? That'd be a god damn dream!

[hasty oyster]

of all the quake games, i played 3 and 5 the least. Why? no campaign. If there is a campaign i find a need and want to play the MP

[lethal plume]

lets just port over all the q2 levels to eternal and call it quake 6

[empty bobcat]

Like QUAKE 2 in DOOM 3

[lethal plume]

q2 maps plus q4 textures with eternal lighting

[empty bobcat]

QUAKE 4 resized texture pak (this, if I good remember 40 gigs pak 😄 )

[lethal plume]

My first goal is to get the scale correct on q2dm1 and figure out getting custom materials to work.

[empty bobcat]

still lights leaks, cause shadows works only in blue bulbs

[lethal plume]

Had to fix my brothers transmission onhis truck last night and didnt get to play with the editor.

[halcyon stratus]

Looks great!

[lethal plume]

yes

i like it but i also drive a black truck with black and red interior and a big deadpool sticker on the back lol

[empty bobcat]

at least this one screenshot 😄 There are a lot work with other rooms.

no mountain vista 😄 but at least I got an armor

[pallid marlin]

they've ousourced quake to saber, it could not end different

[shrewd shard]

well yeah that was for QC, but I don't think the next "mainline" game will be outsourced. My guess is that it's already in pre-production at id and will be the next game after TDA

[empty bobcat]

only Machinegame could handle proper some id game

[pallid marlin]

that's why it failed, plus it was not idtech, well idtech partially - anyways that's too much offtop 🙂

[shrewd shard]

I don't completely disagree

[halcyon stratus]

QC could've saved itself if it had embraced community content.

[empty bobcat]

I mean of course except id 🙂

[shrewd shard]

they should work on it together tbh

[final python]

Where would I start if I wanted to change gameplay? IE scripting and such

[versed herald]

praying someone ports this to the official launcher 🙏

[hasty oyster]

i hope machine games is working on one. Also i have hope wolfenstein 3 isn't ... dead

the other big project at iD is the idtech 8. Who knows what game will come to that first

personally, I just want ... more Doom. hahaha trigger alert sorry

[lethal plume]

Changing weapon behaviors is as easy as searching asset browser right click and edit. I havent done much more than that so far.

[final python]

How in depth is editing it? I'm looking for nothing short than being able to actually script behavior

[lethal plume]

https://idstudio.idsoftware.com/tutorials/change-a-weapons-projectile

[final python]

Basic enough if I want just a projectile swap

[lethal plume]

I have only increased AI speed and scale so far

[final python]

I'm looking to see if I can remake one of my gzdoom mods for Eternal, and not really something I can do if I can't dig my fingers deep into some code

[atomic bay]

You can't "actually script", but you can tweak many values/settings of many different things related to a weapon to change its behaviour. I can't really give any more specific tips than "look in generated/decls/weapon/, and any other decls referenced by the weapon", though. 🤷

[final python]

That's unfortunate

People are wondering when "Gardevoir Has a Praetor Suit" is going to be a thing

[lethal plume]

Does that mod work with the newest gzdoom quest team beef launcher?

[final python]

Dunno. I refuse to get a quest

[lethal plume]

My kid loves pokemon and he loves doom

[final python]

if it's up to date with GZD 4.10, it likely will run

but any errors you do run into, I'm not going to fix for a device I don't own

[hasty oyster]

it would be nice, the day AI can just take our GZDOOM Megawads and magically convert them into perfect Doom Eternal levels

at the least, i would think mapping out the vertices and sectors could be done today

with 1 pixel = 2 inches or something

BOOM you got a map

[halcyon stratus]

Man, I just now realized something- if modular mods like Demons 2016 were uploaded to the portal, we'd end up with some like 10-15 mods for each demon skin.

[lethal plume]

I gotta figure the q2 to doom3 to DE scale dif tonight lol

One of my maps is too small but Doom Slayer still cant walk up steps lol

[halcyon stratus]

I wished there was a way to enable a selector for those kinds of mods, so you could tick whichever submods you'd like to enable. For instance I like 2016's Baron of Hell skin, but don't like the Mancubus or Former Humans. Then I'd be able to tick some boxes and suit the mod to my taste before I download it.

[halcyon stratus]

You could do that, or use a clip brush to make a ramp that goes over the staircase.

[lethal plume]

Yeah i think that would be the easiest way

[halcyon stratus]

Uh... wrong channel?

[keen reef]

errm no

[final python]

Yeah? You think so?

[keen reef]

¯_(ツ)_/¯

[maiden mica]

Why AI

[hasty oyster]

why not? having a human convert the blue print of a megawad into doom eternal by hand would take years. The tech doen'st exist either way

speaking of coverting maps. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PtNYO712wck&t=80s

[lethal plume]

i figured out my scale on q2md1 working on it now

It needed scaled about 1.2 times after going from q2 to doom 3 to DE

[halcyon stratus]

Oh yeah, there's some scaling issues with the map conversion process. Doomguy be smol.

[south wasp]

Question I can't seem to work out from looking into encounters/enemy spawns. How do you trigger the teleport effect? I have no trouble spawning individually or via encounter, but no teleport vfx

[pine venture]

i can't log into the new launcher for some reason

my username and password are correct, i've checked and reset my password, but it still says that "something went wrong"

is anyone else having this issue?

[south wasp]

figured it out. The spawn_target needs to have Spawn Editable -> AI State Override set to Teleport

[cobalt cipher]

Tysm for figuring it out and then telling us how 😊

[south wasp]

No worries

[hasty oyster]

dont know what i did but mod just decided to stop working

most lieklky probalby miss clicked a part on the screen which deleted osmething and i dont know where

so im going to have to start all over

is there a way to detect changes to vanilla?

[versed herald]

eternal ™️ gratitude

[slender iron]

awesome idea:
turn the fortress of doom into peaches castle

jump through paintings to go to levels

[hasty oyster]

where are those pink parts in id studio ... the search

and having adobe up with idstudio ... computer slow and DE jsut doenst wnat ot open sometimes

cant sem to find chainslaw splatters as well, must be in a nother part of the fx

[lavish apex]

https://tenor.com/view/thats-it-yes-thats-it-that-right-there-omg-that-thats-what-i-mean-gif-17579879

[hasty oyster]

update my video driver and it made ALL a fonts in idstudio too small to read ... fuck i can't work anymore

[lavish apex]

can you turn on windows scaling?

[hasty oyster]

yah nothing seems to do antying. font is like siz 3

i have to plant my face onto the monitor

another unhandled exception, cant even report it, need ot force close. definently beta testing hard here

It is highly recommended that you save your map to another
filename in case it is already corrupted or this process fails. - but you can't

[empty bobcat]

that's the AI I would like to see, not magic "AI clock, AI washmachine, AI toothbrush" etc

[empty bobcat]

do you guys have an idea how to prevent light leaking? Light is with shadow ofc.

[unborn ingot]

Don't place 80 million point lights

[versed herald]

oddly enough it doesnt seem to contain the actual master level from the og mod

[empty bobcat]

why? look at id map:

those table light are all with shadow, there are not only here made like this

[versed herald]

regardless of the master level not being there I do appreciate someone porting it

[empty bobcat]

look here:

[unborn ingot]

Danm💀 maybe try bake lighting

[empty bobcat]

no, it doesn't help

I have no idea what is the problem, that's why asking

I need to take a look more on ref maps... maybe I'll find something similar

But I always bake in LOW, maybe that's the cause

my pc will explode in higher probably XD

[unborn ingot]

When did they change it

[unborn ingot]

Nah don't worry to much I did I final bake on my pc that has 16 gb of ram and it just took a while like an hour and a half

[empty bobcat]

oh! I didn't restart steam I just put them to sleep, maybe there was an update!? I bake with medium and I got the same.

[hasty oyster]

so what is the ocmmand to load up the big box map? it isnt working on my side

and i need the command ot spawn monsters, those are not working either, did they change ?

[empty bobcat]

from console?

[hasty oyster]

yes

[unborn ingot]

Also ain't it supposed to say doom eternal at the top

[unborn ingot]

I'm guessing it has had an update

[empty bobcat]

one sec I need to restart steam

[empty bobcat]

hmm, I've just restarted steam but I don't see updates possibility...

what is your last update for idstudio in setting for id studio in steam?

I'm still 9 august

[unborn ingot]

same here

[empty bobcat]

ok, let's fire up this

[unborn ingot]

dose the build Id mean anything

[empty bobcat]

oh, yeah we got different builds

hmm, but app id also 😄

ok, I got pink shirt

[unborn ingot]

I wonder why its changed

[empty bobcat]

how to stop this command float loop in console?

[lusty pelican]

I have the mod packaged. However, the aifsmmanager appears to be broken, so we need to wait on an update before the mod can be published.

Also, please please please package the mod correctly.
https://wiki.eternalmods.com/books/0-idstudio/page/what-files-should-i-package-for-my-idstudio-mod

[empty bobcat]

game dev/bigbox

[hasty oyster]

Uknown command

[empty bobcat]

oh

[hasty oyster]

map dev/bigbox

[empty bobcat]

yes

[hasty oyster]

well it loaded nothing, or its still loading

[empty bobcat]

sorry, ma fail map dev/bigbox

[empty bobcat]

it's still loading for me too, you need to wait

working

[versed herald]

ah alright thanks for the answer ill wait 👍

[karmic musk]

Does anyone know what property on the AI makes the demons aware of the player right away? Rather than just standing still when spawning until something happens?

[hasty oyster]

well that jsut froze my shit up

having adobe, blender and idstudio up at the same time, i need a better pc

[empty bobcat]

it took me almost 1 minute

[hasty oyster]

i was frozen for 4

[empty bobcat]

oh ;/

[unborn ingot]

how to open this texture so I can view it

[vital lichen]

That floor and wall texture, how is it called?

[vital lichen]

Some people discussed it over here. Afaik, enemies have a few states, can't name them, and can't tell you how to do it. Maybe Spawn Parent?

[hasty oyster]

crashing like crazy, and it wont let me send in the report too

[empty bobcat]

brown_grid

and gray_grid on walls

I see new mod is here 😄

[vital lichen]

Thanks dude!!

[storm aspen]

anyone got a good guide on doing asset replacers? Im making models to replace the pick ups but wasnt sure how to do it with Idstudio (if you can)

[fierce oriole]

omg too many shotguns mod in doom eternal

[unborn ingot]

I keep getting this error trying to play doom eternal

Nvm I think its because the SSD that has windows on it is full

[valid yacht]

nope, its because you have a laptop with integrated graphics

or a PC with integrated*

Also: #community-support would be the better channel for this, has nothing to do with #eternal-modding

[unborn ingot]

ah yeah sorry I tried to send it in eternal chat but didn't let me so I sent it here my fault

[slender iron]

Is there a material that makes a surface not render?

Like the source engine nodraw material

[vital lichen]

Shadow caster

[slender iron]

Cheers

[quasi dagger]

Is shadow caster the same as caulk? The editor seems to apply shadow caster when I try to auto caulk

[deft crown]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_bxIF-Sb89c is this mod available on the official modding launcher?

[unborn ingot]

bruh

[slender iron]

Just make a folder in the base D: drive called mods or somethin

[unborn ingot]

yeah thats what as my mod would not upload

[south wasp]

You can add a command in the encounter manager, or I'm sure there's a node in the logic designer that'll do it.

That should cover you based on either encounter or direct spawning

[hasty oyster]

seems the chainsaw blood comes from a different part in idstudio, i wonder how i edit that

[unborn ingot]

how do you package your mod

nvm found it

[hasty oyster]

where the hell do you find the spawn commands. the steam thread mega thread has most of them wrong

[maiden mica]

No spaces

[lethal plume]

https://idstudio.idsoftware.com/gameplay/gameplay-framework/encounter-manager/create-an-encounter#set-up-an-encounter

[hasty oyster]

looks like you cant spawn monsters in dev mode or doom eternal, have ot find the monster in the camp or build one in a custom map like bigbox

[lethal plume]

yeah i think they have to be preloaded

even placed outside map and teleported in maybe. Not sure havent got that far yet.

[vital lichen]

does anybody know wich .decl controls when demons are staggered?

[lethal plume]

good question. I know there is some good info about the staggering stages in a GDC video about moving forward encounters or something

havent ran across anything in idStudio yet

https://youtu.be/2KQNpQD8Ayo?si=e5hABzG4tkRhAI4Z

[vital lichen]

cheatcode_one_shot_stagger might be a place to start

[hasty oyster]

going to have to hang up on modding for awhile. My computer just can't seem to get it to run at a rate im satiffied with. just goin to wait till i get a new computer, and by then idstudio should be more polished

[lethal plume]

they do a good breakdown of the staggering mechanic and how it is used it may be helpfull or mention someother key words you can search for

yeah running idStudio on my laptop really makes me wanna build a modern desktop

[hasty oyster]

2080 rtx is struggling, esp with adobe open

could just be my computer, ive had it since 2019

[lethal plume]

lap top is a 10th gen I5 and 32 gb ram 3060 and it can barely run it

I think it likes ram

[unborn ingot]

its idstudio on an ssd or harddrive

[unborn ingot]

its probably not a ram problem mine runs pretty well with 16gb

[lethal plume]

i have idStudio on one nvme drive and the assets and mods on another

[vital lichen]

i think i just found it, literaly called "stagger"

[vital lichen]

it is not

[empty bobcat]

you can change path for assets and copy them manualy (do not need to download them again)

[lethal plume]

i have all the directories set to a doom folder on my c drive

and just left the steam app on my other drive

I only see a slow down when i open other editors blender/trenchbroom quark alojng with it

but it closes and launches quick so no real issue

[south wasp]

Current ram/cpu use with e2m1 open

[empty bobcat]

HUB

[south wasp]

Wouldn't worry about the CPU usage %, I'm on a workstation

[empty bobcat]

I've just slow built hub map (I was curious how long it will take) it was about 1 minute 🙂

shadows flickering, and some areas need some miliseconds to appear, but it works under editor

I was curious why my shadows leaking and flickering, so it must be cuase of compilation/baking

[south wasp]

As in you're seeing lighting/shadow artifacts in a shipped level when building with slow map?

[empty bobcat]

yes. I can't record it with standard w10 recorder ;/

[vital lichen]

i give up.

[empty bobcat]

look the shadow under chair:

[south wasp]

ah, probably just a result of the lower quality compile. Presumably with full settings and a longer time to bake it'll be fine

[empty bobcat]

yes, I tried with my hangar map with medium settings but shadows still leak geo

[unborn ingot]

wait is your ram usage at 18gb

[south wasp]

shipped maps will be at full quality, try that to eliminate compile settings as the culprit

[empty bobcat]

frame shadow:

[unborn ingot]

quick mod I made

[south wasp]

I mean, it literally doesn't matter if there are artifacts while in a dev environment, if the ship compile fixes it 🙂

[empty bobcat]

you can hurt with melee? Great!

[empty bobcat]

yeah, but the question is how long compiling take. You saw option in build - compile in cloud 😄 In documents there is info baking full map in computer data cloud takes one day. One day for data center 😄

And Eternal for my pc XD

[unborn ingot]

I full baked a small map I made it only took an hour and a half so just leave your computer on all night and that should be fine

[empty bobcat]

Two things in Eternal would be cool - as you made - melee hurt, and fire should burn demons too!

[unborn ingot]

might make that a mod now lol

[south wasp]

Yah, well, that's a compile you're only going to do rarely. If it fixes your issues with leaks/quality then it's kinda the point 😛

Compile quicker, dirtier to work, and take longer to release

[half hollow]

I got a warning: Runtime Config tag unknown.
I was following this guide: https://idstudio.idsoftware.com/tutorials/build-a-simple-box-map
Anyone knows what is the problem?

[unborn ingot]

if it dose not fix it am sure you can use a brush that blocks lights with a texture or something like that and you can see it in game but im not 100% sure

[half hollow]

Oh yeah when I tried to apply material to a surface, it is all white. Not sure if it is related but when I launch the idStudio I got this message

[unborn ingot]

Do you have the player start entitie in your map

[empty bobcat]

I even put inside the brush another brush with shadow caster, but that do not prevent light leak

[unborn ingot]

Some textures might be cut but still have thumbnails in Idstudio

[unborn ingot]

Probably try less lights or full bake

[empty bobcat]

I'll need experiment with that

[unborn ingot]

Put them in a group so you can just hide them so you don't have to delete them

[half hollow]

Yes I have it

[south wasp]

Yep, telling ya, full bake to test.

As I queried above, if you're doing a quicker bake on an official map and seeing issues, it's likely the quality of the light bake that's causing it.

If you don't want to bake a full map, that's all good. Make a test map, see if you can simulate the issue, then try different bakes in that controlled environment

[vital lichen]

sometime idstudio becomes buggy and I can't resize a brush, just move it

[south wasp]

try Ctrl+Q

https://idstudio.idsoftware.com/getting-started/idtech-basics/idstudio-key-commands

Move selection only ( No resizing ) | Ctrl + Q | Move selection only ( No resizing )

[vital lichen]

oh thanks it's that, missclick

thank you!!!

[vital lichen]

what did just happen

all my brushes. invisible

I was changing ""material remap" for the skydome and suddenly every brush became invisible

fixed

[lethal plume]

where is material remap located? i Could not find it yesterday.

i was looking in the entity window for dif skydomes and could not find it

[vital lichen]

you cans earch names here

[lethal plume]

ah ty

[vital lichen]

can't get enviroment to work

now it does!! ignore me

[vital lichen]

How do I set the player statts and mods to full? Docs explain nothing :/

[empty bobcat]

that's the good question, also how to set player with shotgun only on start or with specific load

[vital lichen]

gonna reverse engineer a map

[empty bobcat]

that's right!

ok, let's run idStudion again 😄

[unborn ingot]

like have the map start with a loadout

[unborn ingot]

There is a give item entity

[cobalt cipher]

Best thing to do would be look at any of the post SGN Master Level Maps and look for the logic scripts in there. the Classic Mode might give you at least a bit of a clue of how to do it

[unborn ingot]

There are already premade loadouts you can use I just need to load up dev tools

[vital lichen]

hmmmmm

[empty bobcat]

activate load, hmm

[unborn ingot]

Are you sure that's for weapons and not for a check point

Sp stands for spawn point

[lethal plume]

not single player

?

[vital lichen]

that's for everything at start

but I think I've got it

it might be a logic entity

[unborn ingot]

Probably that to be fair

[empty bobcat]

on each map there are such thing with enemies, it looks like they use them to spawn function?

[unborn ingot]

maybe the ennoucter thing can only spawn ennimes that are on the map and they just forgot to remove them or did not care to

[lethal plume]

Yeah i remember seeing in docs they need to be in the map. or outside map

q1 style

[unborn ingot]

There is also an ai enitey limit on maps for some reason so you have to use the encounter thing if you map is big

[vital lichen]

it's easier for game engines to have them already in the map to draw them when spawning them

[lethal plume]

im guessing you can use the same enemy over and over again at dif spawns

[vital lichen]

ok guys I got it. it's a logic entitity:

literally just this

the logic entity its activated by the player itself (target)

[unborn ingot]

Well I don't think they will use a command but a decl or whatever its called

[vital lichen]

but it works!

[empty bobcat]

it looks like this?

[empty bobcat]

how to get this?

[lethal plume]

is there a start_items

[vital lichen]

Nope

[vital lichen]

It's in logic designer

Power went off at home ffs

[unborn ingot]

I found it

[vital lichen]

When power is back at home I can set a simple logic to share with y'all

All mods, habilities and etc

[empty bobcat]

yes, teach us master!

[vital lichen]

Because dash is not set from the beginning

[steel dock]

Hello. I wanted to download a few mods for Doom Eternal and even mess around with the map editor, but for somereason I cannot download any mods... Does anyone have an idea why is this, or did this even happen to anyone?

[unborn ingot]

it might just be really slow

[steel dock]

Idk, I kinda waited sometimes a lot and still didn't gotten up by 1%

I also feel like this has to do with it something

[unborn ingot]

wait a bit loger the dowload speeds are pretty slow and a map is kinda like 3gb I think

[steel dock]

Ok, I give it 30 minutes...

And I see if one of the maps downloaded

[vital lichen]

I'll do it tomorrow, tired rn

[unborn ingot]

its fine you can just enable player inv from the entity inspector

[vital lichen]

This might be it

[empty bobcat]

https://idstudio.idsoftware.com/gameplay/gameplay-framework/logic-designer/tutorial-hello-world there is something about how to use it

[vital lichen]

I forgot about the world entity

[vital lichen]

Yes, it's just basic stuff

[unborn ingot]

okay yeah this is it

[vital lichen]

Finally

[empty bobcat]

manual says: "You should now see a blank graph. Right click anywhere on the graph and select the Game / Begin node from the menu."
But I don't see any blank graph after put logic func

[vital lichen]

second icon starting from top-left, select entity logic in world editor

[empty bobcat]

ok, got it

[vital lichen]

you can set your own logic here

[empty bobcat]

yeah, I'm trying to play with it with tutorial 🙂

[vital lichen]

for full player at start:

[unborn ingot]

That's only for devs

You have to manually add everything😭

Unless you find another way

[steel dock]

It seems it still didn't gotten up by 1%... Sorry if I may come of as agressive, I just realy wanna solve this

[empty bobcat]

hmm, I dunno - player starts with all guns now (except super heavy)

I don't see "give weapon", there is receive, but player already has all guns

[vital lichen]

you can use it anyways

i tried it and it works

[empty bobcat]

there are some things

[atomic bay]

devInvLoadout is used whenever you load a map without an existing inventory, whether starting a new save slot or using the map command (which doesn't preserve your previous inventory) - not when you progress naturally from map to map when finishing a level, though.
That is to say, you're given E1M1's devInvLoadout when you start a new Campaign save, E4M1's devInvLoadout when you start a new The Ancient Gods - Part One save, and E5M1's when you start a new The Ancient Gods - Part Two save.

If you want the player to start with everything (and the Sentinel Hammer), simply make the map start with E5M3's devInvLoadout.

[empty bobcat]

let's see do I get crucible

[vital lichen]

what about /pvp/complete?

[empty bobcat]

nah, I didn't

WORKING!

Look, I added rocket mod to shotgun:

[karmic musk]

What are your guys thoughts on a level built around classic mode vs having all weapons at start?

[empty bobcat]

I'd like to have control. For example I'm making Hangar so would be cool to gather weapons as in original/classic game.

[atomic bay]

I don't know what you get from it, but I know that "pvp" refers to BattleMode, so you probably wouldn't get Runes and such. If you want absolutely everything, I'd suggest E5M3's devInvLoadout - or you can copy E5M2's devInvLoadout decl and change the "weapon/player/hammer" item to "weapon/player/crucible" if you want the Crucible instead of the Sentinel Hammer.

[empty bobcat]

But I don't know how to take all guns from player 😄

[vital lichen]

cool. thanks!

[steel dock]

So this is still not working...

I'm realy sorry if I'm much

[empty bobcat]

try restart steam, are you the same disk as DOOM Eternal? It's pc, not steam deck?

[steel dock]

I'm no Steam, and I kinda redownloaded Both Eternal and idstudio for like 3 times

Yeah, I'm kinda in a pickel with this one

I guess I never going to mod this game then...

[plush thicket]

modify the dev inv loadout decl you find it in the entity inspector make sure you select the main refmap

[empty bobcat]

Ok, I now how to delete guns without touching this decls

I removed RL:

Begin -> Modify Inventory -> Items to modify - I selected weapons/base/rocket_launcher and set Desired Count 0

I removed all guns with logic designer:

so I got base shotgun as I wanted 🙂

[vital lichen]

Yeah!!

[empty bobcat]

could be pinned if mods like 🙂

Would be cool to have player more faster than default. I realy like how Slayer walk with haste mode.

got it, but would be good without all hud effects

[crystal wolf]

how can i open the editor? i always just get an error message when i try to start it

[lethal plume]

not an error

just steam letting you know there are custom arguments

like if you launched a quake game with set game to a mod folder

if you change mods in the editor it will do the same except have some extra arguments pointing to whatever mod

[hasty oyster]

please brain, dont convince me to buy a new pc just for idstudio, please dont impulse buy, help wallet run run run run

fucking run bitch

[empty bobcat]

64 gigs + 4080, 2TB NVME, 9800x3d, yes yes 😉

[vital lichen]

Take a pic at that monster

[hasty oyster]

im loooking at those empowered PC's. They had them as rentals at quakecon and where very ncie and face. I had the top of the line

Panorama RTX 4090 Gaming PC (i9-14900KF, 192GB, 4TB SSD)

5k$$$$ ..... NOPE!!!!

[vital lichen]

do modding on a raspberry pi

[hasty oyster]

its like buying a brand new car, do you REALLY need to pay the extra 40%+ on it being the latest and greatest ... just for 6 months

[empty bobcat]

Don't limit yourself - look at this: AMD Ryzen Threadripper PRO 7995WX

[hasty oyster]

that is 10k. jesus my wife would divorce me

[empty bobcat]

what price do you see? XD

[vital lichen]

go for it. doom is eternal, remember

[hasty oyster]

with modding, yes it actually is now

[fervent spruce]

wtf are you even doing with a 10k pc

[empty bobcat]

baking light 😄

[vital lichen]

discording

[hasty oyster]

nothing a 3k pc can't do

[fervent spruce]

try <2k lmfao

[vital lichen]

But seriously, is this onyl your hobby or do you work with this monster?

[hasty oyster]

well i need the extra boost because ill running blender, idstudio, doom eternal AND adobe photoshop all on 3-4 monitors

[vital lichen]

Mine is <1500€ and is more than enough

[hasty oyster]

oh, and discord,

[empty bobcat]

no, I don't have such pc 😄 I just say buy this like 😄

[vital lichen]

Ah

[fervent spruce]

yeah <2k was more for the very fancy PCs

[hasty oyster]

well my 2090 rts just can't cut it with idstudio right now, im geting memory issues and having to restart my pc

[vital lichen]

the rgb pc™

[fervent spruce]

you can put rgb on a cheap ass pc

[vital lichen]

Mine has no rgb other than the leds i cannot rip off the motherboard

[vital lichen]

I hate rgb. In this house we hate rgb

[empty bobcat]

I'm sad cause my 4070ti start hot in some cases 😦 I need to check UV, maybe I accidentaly broke curve in afterburner, but probably it's dying

[fervent spruce]

pretty lights tho

bro your 4070 is starting to die???

[vital lichen]

yeah, right

[empty bobcat]

that's why I'm sad

[fervent spruce]

rip

[vital lichen]

how the fuck you burn yoir 4070

[empty bobcat]

it's 1,5 year gpu

[hasty oyster]

my 2080 form 2019 is still running great i think

[fervent spruce]

i had like a decade old gpu that just died playing slime rancher 😭

[empty bobcat]

I didn't I even UV it. I have no idea what is happening.

[vital lichen]

Mine is older than yours and still alive

[empty bobcat]

I got 1080ti in 2nd pc and it's ok

[vital lichen]

F

[empty bobcat]

pool ready 😄

[lethal plume]

still trying to figure out water

[vital lichen]

Yeehaw

One of the fsnciest things about idstudio is that you don't need to close your maps like in Source. No more visleaks

[empty bobcat]

ah volume, not texture - you think, right?

[lethal plume]

last thing i tried last night was adding the deep water entity and then changing its model to water and scaling it

it looked good but i dont thinkn that is correct lol

[empty bobcat]

func water works

oh, you can texturing it!

now it's like QUAKE 1 water

[karmic musk]

keep pumping out content @empty bobcat love to see it. 😄

[empty bobcat]

hmm, somehow in bake (+light) map I have no this pool, but when playing in editor it works 😦

"play game from here":

[lethal plume]

I didnt ecen notice there was a func water lol

[empty bobcat]

you can texturing it - but texture is visible only on top of box

[lethal plume]

maybe i should wear these new glasses

[empty bobcat]

hmm, now game doesn't see any new brush when I try it with devmap, but works in editor

[karmic musk]

Anyone know if you can view/open battlemode maps with the toolkit? I'm needing to look around to get a sense of layout/scale on the maps. I can only see the campaign maps and tutorial maps.

[empty bobcat]

looks like there is no battlemode:

[karmic musk]

damn

maybe there are top down images online somewhere

[empty bobcat]

but in prefabs there is "level_stage_podiums.map"

but it's not a real pvp map

what does it mean this error in console?

[lethal plume]

I think i read somewhere battlemode assets are coming eventually

yay water

[indigo forge]

Is anyone else having trouble with textures? I don't know if the "blockout" textures in the material2/art/tile/common folder are stored in different assets packs or what, but I don't think they would do that.

[indigo forge]

Yes. Once I select the texture though, it just doesn't show up. Console says that it couldn't find the texture.

[empty bobcat]

ah, ;/ it's standard texture without need to download any ref map. Closing and opening not helping I guess. Integrity check in steam or downloading idStudio once again? Also...

[hasty oyster]

Is there a simple way to just isolate all assets for a demon. I to filter but it doesn't really work since most of the lumps get filtered out as well

[steel dock]

I still wonder if I can attempt at making a map...

At least that would be enough for me.

I guess I try it tomorrow

[fluid hatch]

Got the hell on earth asset downloaded,but how do we build the map to edit it?

[plush thicket]

why do you use more then on begin node, use a sequence node like this

[vital lichen]

You can open the map in idStudio > open map >

[vital lichen]

That big white ass arrow there. How do you do it? How do you remove it? id's custom logic has a ton of these and makes it difficult to read

[plush thicket]

Select the sub graph the blue square go to node details and delete comments

[vital lichen]

Ah damn. Thanks!

[chilly pasture]

So lets say I start a file for the Master Campaign mod. If I then want to play a different mod that requires a new file, can I just deactivate the master campaign mod, but keep the file I made that for if I want to go back?

[hasty oyster]

is there a way to "save as" and make a new file name? it will make it easier to go back because im diong something at some point that breaks the shit

[vital lichen]

Yes

[hasty oyster]

right now im just creating backups manuelly,

[vital lichen]

Yes, that button exists

[hasty oyster]

i must be blind idiot then

is it normal that m mod is already a few gigs?

[chilly pasture]

Awesome! Thanks!

[hasty oyster]

also whne i use "show in folder" it literally creates the item in the folder. Is that what is happening?

[vital lichen]

Yeah

Right now it's "raw" data

[hasty oyster]

so if i click on "show in folder" for every item, it will be a terabyte

[vital lichen]

Huh?

[hasty oyster]

there is a "show in folder" button and/or right click. If i use it, the item populates in there. Like it just creates itself ... i know this because i did it to several items and watched my folder increase in files

i dont know if im making sense - might just be me

i think its adding that lump or whatever you want to call it because just touching it modifies it and it stores in the mod even though i do no changes

[vital lichen]

Maybe it's being copied to your working folder

[hasty oyster]

i think so too, which makes my mod unintentially larger if im not using that asset

[vital lichen]

Sure there's a way to clean it up

[halcyon stratus]

Is that a vanilla Eternal texture? Looks so much like the classic sludge one.

[hasty oyster]

okay, still can't find the Blood Spray for chainsaw, I found most others. WHere is it?

[hasty oyster]

think i found it, but how do i attach it to the HK, had to duplicate it

it isn't under FX, unless im blind

[south wasp]

presumably defined somewhere in the chainsaw decl. That or the hellknight, or perhaps a level above, generic demon/ai decl?

[hasty oyster]

ill look. fyi the crucible and glory kills are easily changed. But chainsaw has something else going on with it

but i could just be very blind

another thing im trying to do is make a new set of nuggets. Duplicating it doens't seem to work, i htink there is a parent because if i change the dupe, it changes the OG

[hasty oyster]

i think i figured out how to change the gibs collor for each monster, that is nice

i might just have to make a rainbow guts/blood mod

[primal jay]

Any ideas as to what might cause an Access Violation error from the sandbox .exe but not from the normal .exe?

[hasty oyster]

packing all sudden decided to take 15 times longer, hmmm

[empty bobcat]

it's vanilla. I used slime and above I put the water texture

[empty bobcat]

I was playing around with that, I'm not sure how the things working, also I couldn't drag more than one link from Begin.

[unborn ingot]

how long dose it take to get your mod verified to be published

[last python]

Hi, help. How do i look to these stuff in the editor?

Nevermind i cant even see it in the game LOL

[empty bobcat]

I did some test with light bake. So it's leaking even in high preset. So I have no idea how to make it proper. Maybe light just work like this with brushes.

low preset:

you need to resize screensthot to see light leak

Funny, because above there are few the same lights and they do not leak: also low preset

[turbid steeple]

how likely is it we eventually have doom 2016 maps remade? some would be easier than others for the base of them (uac, argent dnur)

[lavish apex]

I'm not sure about 1:1 functionality but you can probably get the geometry in fairly easy with all the 2016 exporters floating around

[waxen nymph]

i think some doom 2016 hell architecture was already imported

[unborn ingot]

What kind of mod should I make

[empty bobcat]

Gary Oldman: EVERYONE! 😉

I found the issue with flickering light shadows - if shadow light are big and overlap they have more chance to start flicker when player is moving.

[charred frost]

I have a question, it might be dumb, but do you think it's possible to modify doom eternal's UI with id studio ? Like create a whole new UI ?

[halcyon stratus]

In theory, everything should be possible now. It's a matter of... figuring out how to do it.

Probably with logic nodes.

[empty bobcat]

yes, I think it is possible

I even think it is possible to make whole TC like QUAKE or anything you want (if you have lot of time, or lot of people and time)

[charred frost]

I think the only thing we can't do in id studio might be netcode stuff (like multiplayer) (maybe i'am saying shit and it's possible xd), if it's not possible maybe they will add it, because it's only in beta for the moment i think

[vital lichen]

No, it's not. DE's UI it's not made with idStudio, it's swf, and it's a closed format (macromedia flash player)

[charred frost]

Ok thx, didn't know that

[halcyon stratus]

@regal marlin @runic forum Not sure which one to ping, my bad. Remember when you made the 2016 Baron skin you also made an alt with dark green gore, like in classic Doom? Would you happen to still have that handy?

[hazy glen]

How hard is the coding for making Doom Eternal Maps?

[vital lichen]

You can make custom logic events via the "logic entity", that uses a visual scripting language. It's easy to grasp even if you never programmes before

[empty bobcat]

https://idstudio.idsoftware.com/gameplay/gameplay-framework/logic-designer/tutorial-hello-world

at least with this tutorial you will learn how to open this editor

with right click you can find some interesting you stuff.

[vital lichen]

idstudio servers are slow af

[empty bobcat]

yes

[unborn ingot]

found this very cool

[vital lichen]

tardis!!!

[polar nexus]

seems like u get to create what ever u want like this 😏

[noble coral]

Yoooo

[empty bobcat]

I wanted to say we need a bus, but there is a bus 😄

found in mods:

hmm

[hazy glen]

Reminds me of Unreal's BluePrint visual Scripting language

[unborn ingot]

published my first mod

[silent ledge]

I started working on a map last night. Saved it of course, but when I tried loading it up this morning all my progress was gone. Does anyone know what caused this?

[unborn ingot]

Did you load up the map file

[silent ledge]

map file doesn't even show up.

[unborn ingot]

Where did you save it

I'm loading up the tools be a sec

you can click file and open

[lethal plume]

if the map file is outside the mod folder it gives a popup warning i think

i would look in the mod folder bas/maps i think. Not at my computer with idStudio right now

base

[empty bobcat]

is it on disk if you check folder?

not from idstudio, from windows explorer

[hasty oyster]

dont forget about monsters/weapons. I want to see how that AI translates in Eternal ... not sure how the code differs. Map geo much easier, but getting the textures to match will be a minor challenge for people smarter than me

people are already porting over the blueprints for quake 1 and doom 3 into iDstudio

and if you can convert q1 maps, that means you can convert WAD's into quake 1, then convert them into eternal.

[unborn ingot]

made another mod and published it

Made a spelling mistake to lazy to change 💀

[empty bobcat]

I need a little break, half of map is ready, but I need to know how to make triggers and doors

[polar nexus]

what could be worse?

[foggy rock]

I was literally just about to share this. 💀

[polar nexus]

lol

[foggy rock]

It's been only a week since we've gotten native mod support and we've already peaked.

[polar nexus]

imagine this gets a lot of likes

i'm guessing probably

[foggy rock]

No other mods are necessary. This is the only one we will ever require.

[polar nexus]

lol. i agree

[foggy rock]

Uninstall everything else.

[polar nexus]

unnecessary mods can be a waste of time

[foggy rock]

Which almost every mod now is, save that one.

[polar nexus]

basic slaughter map was the first mod i played and it was pretty fire

[foggy rock]

The only mod I use is randomized encounters. It's literally the only thing I would've ever needed to continue enjoying the game.

[polar nexus]

i'll be waiting for those creators to create something, like mindblowing?

[polar nexus]

nice. how's it going in doom eternal rn?

[foggy rock]

(And 100% mask opacity. That too.)

[polar nexus]

i recently came to taras nabad in ultra nightmare

[foggy rock]

Phenomenal in my opinion. You get all the unlocks from the very beginning so you aren't dicking around the map having to recollect everything after you've already completed the game.

[polar nexus]

ultra nightmare became a lot easier with all the unlocks

[unborn ingot]

they should remove mod support because of this

[polar nexus]

that mod has -10 000 aura points

waste of time

[foggy rock]

Update 6.66 Rev 4 patch notes: Removed mod support as it is no longer necessary. Toilet mod integrated into base game.

[polar nexus]

gen alpha kids r a lot likely to get that mod and play that cuz they're fascinated with skibidi toilets

[foggy rock]

There's probably at least one kid, not even in the double digits, who will only play at "I'm Too Young to Die" and with said mod.

[polar nexus]

they don't know anything better, they're just beginners

[unborn ingot]

Imagine someone makes a skibidi toilet mod💀

[polar nexus]

[foggy rock]

Can't be considered a beginner if you will only ever be a beginner.

[polar nexus]

that'll be fucked up and hilarious

[foggy rock]

"Imagine the inevitable happened"

[empty bobcat]

so it happens... skibidi mods soon

[polar nexus]

does that mean... we're DOOMED?

[empty bobcat]

yes

[polar nexus]

DOOM will be DOOMED

[unborn ingot]

I kinda want to make it a mod but to much effort

[lethal plume]

They better have fully animated glory kills

lol

[unborn ingot]

I'm just imaging the head getting flushed down💀

[lethal plume]

doomslayer flushes the handle and the head goes down and out comes a geyser of blood. Army of Darkness style

[empty bobcat]

I would like to see mod that makes chainsaw in classic way - like in D1/2/3

with no fuel need

[lethal plume]

q2 chainfist

i got a chainshield model somewhere that is animated

[empty bobcat]

ah, yes I forgot about chainshield from DDA

[lethal plume]

I used geometry nodes to place the teeth around a circle. so as you resize it it adds or subtracts teeth. I was very proud of that.

It just looked like garbage by the time i decimated down to enough polys to be used as a md5 or md2 for q2