doom-2016

[worthy mantle]

Thinking of that one lmfao

And all the glorious zombie glory kills

[glad orbit]

"Your bones will never be strong if you don't eat your bones!!" - Slimecicle

[worthy mantle]

Although not all glory kills were created equally glorious

[devout mist]

The gore in eternal is doomguy stabbing stuff with that little blade on his arm. Then there's 2016 where he's not afraid at all to get his hands dirty and kill stuff in the most violent, over the top ways possible. The only aspect of the gore that improved in eternal was the destructible demons and even then it looks pretty uncanny with how the gore underneath looks compared to in 2016 imo

[worthy mantle]

Destructible demons was a massive improvement

Just made everything look cooler

[untold stirrup]

You can argue that the blade is there to improve efficiency

[worthy mantle]

No it isn’t it’s just there to be cool and it does it’s job very well

[sharp vapor]

the blade is there for more creative freedom with the glory kills

[sharp vapor]

Why does discord user ||*alexander*||#2668 have such bad eyesight

oh wait you're a troll

[glad orbit]

Any way to remove the black bars in the cinematic render mode?
I like how the rendering mode looks, but the bars are kinda annoying.

Ok, no, they march on my nerves, actually lmao

[tidal whale]

What I meant by realistic is in doom 2016 if you shot a demon it just blew up (lots of gore) but in doom eternal there body parts fly everywhere (just not as much gore)

[untold stirrup]

Tell me, it is more efficient to tear paper apart with your bare hands or to use scissors

Also the codex implies that it's there to improve efficiency as well

Paraphrased: "it cuts through ranks where standard weaponry is ineffective"

Chainsaw can cut through demons pretty well, even at full health so I suppose I can argue that point

(Talking gameplay here, not lore-wise) While the Slayer can smash in a Hell Knight's skull which clocks in to more than a metric ton of force, said Hell Knight needs to be staggered first, which means it must be weakened by weapon fire

Chainsaw negates that and just saws through the demon

[fair sky]

Any1. Tryna play snapmaps

[potent onyx]

Yo, any EU mp players here?

[devout mist]

"Creative freedom" = stab everything. 2016 had waaay more creative kills. There's the one for the baron where you rip off its horn and crack its skull like an egg with it, rip out a pinkies tooth and stab it in the eye, break a soldiers leg and curbstomb him with his own foot, etc.

[devout mist]

I care more for fun and satisfying than efficient

[untold stirrup]

Lore-wise, it'd improve efficiency

Eternal still has good glory kills

[elder meadow]

Seeing that Hayden betrayed doomguy was shitty

[glad orbit]

"Oh wow, I just broke all this guy's Mars toys and wasted decades, if not centuries worth of his research, how dare he betrays me!! "

[worthy mantle]

It’s still there to look cool

And there’s nothing wrong with that

And I am very happy it’s there

It does add a lot of variation to the glory kills though

[sharp vapor]

it gives doomguy's suit more personality i guess

[noble moat]

Anyone remember if you could play multiplayer with bots

[lofty pollen]

Yes, they have multiple difficulties

[noble moat]

Oh this could be spicy

[lofty pollen]

The MP is super fun even with bots

[noble moat]

Debating buying doom 2016 on steam purely for bot deathmatch.

$20 Nintendo online
Or
$5 2016 steam no online needed

[lofty pollen]

I mean you'd also get Snapmap which is also really cool

[noble moat]

That’s true

But I plan to get for steamdeck. Storage wise need to weigh my balances

[wispy verge]

yep and its pretty good

[proper perch]

Steam

[noble moat]

I mean I’ll be tossing it on the micro sd anyways. But still it’s like a 60gb game

[lofty pollen]

Ive got it on mine

[noble moat]

On storage or micro?

[lofty pollen]

Micro

[noble moat]

I don’t even have to question loading as I know switch takes 40-50 seconds per level XD

[proper perch]

You're getting the steam deck? I've heard some good about it, but most of it has been bad. I don't know, I wanted to get it but now I'm hesitant.

[noble moat]

Most bad? Might want to check out more reviews fam 👀

[lofty pollen]

I got one, its pretty sick. I dont have too many negatives so far personally

[noble moat]

Also I remember you can’t unlock some weapons without leveling up. When fighting bots u can’t level up can you?

[lofty pollen]

Heads up though Eternal seems to run smoother than 2016 at this point last time i tested

[noble moat]

Yeah eternal is more optimized

[lofty pollen]

Both are verified and work tho

[noble moat]

Same comparison on switch with eternal running better overall

But I assume u mean at 60fps

[lofty pollen]

Ye im not a fan of 30 for FPS

[noble moat]

I’m fine with 30 for everything

I will test doom tho

Just to see the difference for myself

Fps wise

[lofty pollen]

The main testing i want to do is see how it runs feels w/ a dock/small mouse/KB when i get those.

Been playing a lot of 2016 MP on PS5 lately and it runs extremely smooth.

And yeah you wont be able to level up in private matches unfortunately Bob

[noble moat]

Damn

Makes sense

[lofty pollen]

Which is a shame, 2016's customization is deep

[noble moat]

But damn

Yeah my go to in switch was making myself look like a sentinel

Is mp on pc dead?

[lofty pollen]

Imagine a "next gen upgrade" for 2016 that had RTX

[lofty pollen]

Theres still people that play, depending on the time you can sometimes get full matches.

[noble moat]

Sounds perfect

I usually used the bounty rune anyways for faster exp gain

[lofty pollen]

And you can switch regions to hunt for lobbies if you dont mind a lil of the ol' funni latency at times

[noble moat]

Ha I play on switch

Latency is my middle name

Actually surprisingly 2016 mp on switch was stupidly buttery smooth

They paid for them premium servers

[elder meadow]

No my doom just wasnt rendering good

[lofty pollen]

Certain Affinity does pretty great work. They also worked on some other huge franchises

[green vault]

DOOM 2016 takes place on Mars, so there is an unavoidable falseness. It also took a 3-hour tour to Hell. Eternal takes place on Earth and is VASTLY more detailed than 2016. For me it is more like the comparison of the original Alien film with the follow-up Aliens. The first is intense and detailed, the follow up is over-the-top and sticks the landing.

[rich merlin]

Hey guys why is remote det considered so OP in 2016?

[untold stirrup]

It stacks bleeding damage

And the explosion radius is pretty big

Lock-On rockets only do 400 damage, total

A single unmodded rocket does 480

Since explosion radius can be upgraded and bleeding damage added on, the damage gets extremely high

Maybe up to the 1000's? Not sure because I don't have an exact way of measuring

All I know is that it's possible to kill a Hell Knight with 2 rockets from Remote Detonation(Or even 1 from mastered Remote Detonation) compared to 8 rockets from Lock-On

Lock-On damage-wise pretty pathetic in 2016, although it is good for chaining quickswap combos

[rich merlin]

Got it. I see now. I had no idea about that

So is remote det very superior to Lock on?

[untold stirrup]

Damage and utiility-wise, I'd say yes

If you're into quickswap combos though I'd recommend Lock-On

I switch between the two during combat since they're good for different situations

But I prefer to have Remote Detonation on most of the time

[rich merlin]

Yeah lock on feels very fast. I also kept killing myself with remote det

[elder meadow]

does anyone still play the multiplayer at all anymore?

[last ferry]

no

[elder meadow]

😔

[untold stirrup]

timing the rocket is pretty important after all

also for some reason it does extra damage to summoners and fodder

I understand summoners....

but extra damage against fodder?

anyway, mastered remote det also shoots 2 rockets for the price of one

I think theoretically you might be able to kill a baron of hell with 6 remote detonated rockets, or 3-2 from mastered remote detonation

which is absurdly low

[royal chasm]

quickswap all day erry day

[elder meadow]

Hey can anybody help me for the online trophy in Doom 2016?

[fair sky]

Wym

[robust mural]

Yo does any have this game on switch I wanna at least level up so I can play practice mode better

[prisma nova]

Anybody still play the game on PS4?

[halcyon bear]

Yes

[lofty pollen]

yes, there is a discord for 2016 and BM if you would like an invite?

[prisma nova]

Oh, yes please

[elder meadow]

I Must reach Level 5 online for the Last trophy

[olive abyss]

can i have one

[barren pasture]

No dash make me sad

[hasty helm]

can you actually set custom keybind for weapons?

in doom 2016?

[hasty helm]

I mean true

still challenging tho

[lofty pollen]

Whats yalls favorite MP weapon to use? Lately ive been having fun w/ the Reaper

[untold stirrup]

Yes, obvs

[twin oyster]

I can’t seem to find a match in doom 2016

[tepid jolt]

Most people just play single player

[twin oyster]

Oh

[tepid jolt]

I’ve been unable to start the game (PC). Is there a way to help my computer run it or do I need to just get a refund?

[barren salmon]

Doomguy Going into (Doom Zero) and coming out of (Doom 2016) The Sarcophagus
https://youtu.be/4bfIgL4JZM4

[halcyon bear]

Wasn't the biggest fan of doom zero

[barren salmon]

No? I played through maybe a third of it, I enjoy it for the lore as you can see

[halcyon bear]

Boss fights are great. Some fights. But the puzzles... kinda slows the pace

[barren salmon]

It is puzzley

[robust mural]

Bro please tell me there is someone bon switch who can play online with me I just want to grind and level up I paid fourty bucks for this game basically just for multiplayer mode and no one plays it 😭😭😭

[fervent dirge]

2016>>>>>>>>>Eternal

[robust mural]

In the case of multiplayer mode I would have to agree but the doom eternals story mode is unbeatable

And the multiplayer isn't bad just not as good

[elder meadow]

Is anybody Here still Play Doom 2016 online? I Must reach Level 5 online for the last Trophy.

[robust mural]

On what I do like all the time@elder meadow

[sudden vigil]

I am playing in Xbox, is double xp coming back?

[elder meadow]

@robust mural It doesn't matter, the main thing is that I get to level 5

[rich merlin]

Hey guys are there any spreadsheets or documents on weapon damage for 2016?

[robust mural]

@elder meadow yeah I mean but it's not cross counsel like what do you play it on

[elder meadow]

@robust mural ps4

[robust mural]

Riiip that's like the one thing I don't have it gor

For

[glad orbit]

The DOOM Wiki might be your best shot for knowing exact weapon damage numbers.

[woeful shell]

Hi 👋🏻

Is it normal that the matchmaking takes so long for lvl 1?

[noble moat]

It’s a dead mp from 6 years ago

[woeful shell]

xD

[crude bluff]

Did you buy it on steam?

I got in the game very easily

What's it saying to you?

[zealous spindle]

Is snap map back?

[tepid jolt]

I refunded it but it wasn’t saying anything. It just got stuck loading forever. I think my PC just can’t handle it

[dim berry]

Sup

[elder meadow]

Who want to play multiplayer

[crude bluff]

Quick question, so the game runs perfectly fine for me but sometimes when I open the map menu it starts lagging. I have a really good pc so I don't know if it has something to do with the game

It barely happens but in some spots of maps it lags

If anyone has experienced this before is there a fix?

The game runs perfect btw

It's just the map does it sometimes and there was once where the menu for options started having terrible frames but that was just once

[elder meadow]

I do not know what to say about that

[crude bluff]

I found that having Razer Chroma on makes the frame pacing bad

Gonna turn it off and see if that fixes it

[zealous spindle]

Is snapmap back online?

[robust mural]

Does literally anyone in this server have the game for switch I am very determined to play this with people

[halcyon bear]

There's a few

[robust mural]

@halcyon bear WHERE

Guide me to them

[halcyon bear]

@noble moat

[torpid saddle]

I think most of us hang out in the eternal chat.

[robust mural]

Wait so you have 2016 on switch@torpid saddle ?

[torpid saddle]

I do. I’ve done 2 play throughs of eternal since I played it last so I’m not enthusiastic about going back to it haha

[robust mural]

@torpid saddle do you know anyone else and would you be interested in an online match sometime

[torpid saddle]

I recommend you hop into the eternal chat and ask, someone might be interested. I’ll consider it

[torpid saddle]

Shoot me a DM so I don’t forget your name

[dark quail]

Lmao the switch online is empty i'm crying

So many players says "muh eternal online suks, need the good ol' deathmatch" but nobody comes

Dunno if there's still people on other platforms but still

[zealous spindle]

Whats your platform

[dark quail]

Switch

not the most popular but they were people once

[fair sky]

I get.into matches on thw afternoon

[glad orbit]

To any mad soul who has 100%'d an UN campaign here:
How do you even upgrade the Saving Throw rune?

The upgrade requires you to use it 10 times, and the rune's effect requires you to die in order to be restarted.

[halcyon bear]

Never used it so wouldn't know

[snow heron]

I haven’t beaten 2016 on UN but I have heard of exploits that reset the rune so maybe they used that? Or there good enough they simply don’t need it?

[real abyss]

you dont die when saving throw pops. you go to 1 hp. similar to how an extra life works in eternal

but what you do is go into a tight corridor with the BFG, let the demons pop saving throw, and shoot your BFG the moment they pop it

the easiest way ive personally found

[tall wraith]

You don't have to die for Saving Throw to activate, rather it briefly stops hp loss once you reach one health. The upgrade challenge requires you to kill ten demons while the rune has activated, so what you can do is use the BFG to kill as many demons as possible, preferably areas with a lot of low tier demons.

[slim pebble]

Thankfully Lazarus Labs will reset ST as it's split into two parts

[glad orbit]

Oh bruh I actually completely forgot the actual upgrade requirement.
Ok, I was being stupid. Thanks. xd

[narrow shadow]

I had to delete doom for a tiny bit

[runic zinc]

so uh

is there a way to fix 2016's terrible directional occlusion yet

mods cvars anything

[dawn tapir]

A

[elder meadow]

hey uh

so i was just like

chillin replaying 2016 before i get eternal

and i got to hell like today

about idk like at most 10-15 mins ago

and there's that arena where you have a summoner

but for some reason none of the demons spawned?

the game was working just fine beforehand

just wanted to know if anyone has also had this happen to them maybe?

[worthy mantle]

They ran away

[snow heron]

I assume a Checkpoint Reload would fix the issue

[elder meadow]

i wish i were as good as the slayer

[elder meadow]

i'll check soon, thanks

sorry for delayed responses

[halcyon bear]

[halcyon bear]

https://imgur.com/a/9LOeDOT

[scenic osprey]

dioe fish is in doom 2016

dope

[narrow shadow]

Don’t worry

I’m back in the demon slaying habit

[glad orbit]

Okay, so, lore question: How in Mastermind's name could the Elite Guard chips be used for the Praetor Suit? I can understand Hayden being able to upload that teleportation Tether thingy onto it, since we can assume he's been studying the suit, considering that he brought back the Slayer only as a safegoat in case Olivia went mad, but why would the chips that Olivia's Elite Guards use be able to upgrade the capabilities of the suit? I don't think Olivia would've wanted her tech to be compatible with the stuff used by the dude who can ruin all of her plans according to herself.

Like, y'know, just saying. Ik plot is secondary backseat stuff for DOOM, but seeing how tightly the lore stuff like codex entries are written, you'd think they have some explaination for that.

[ancient comet]

I mean there is probably some explanation but
the simplest way to explain it is
"it works because doomguy needs to kill demons"

or maybe idk

when i played the game i just thought that the praetor suit is compatible because it wasn't originally made for the doom slayer

because it was right next to doomguys

um... bed? whatever

and i mean they wouldn't be stupid enough to put doomslayer's own suit right NEXT TO HIM huh?

but i guess that isn't the case

[glad orbit]

The logs and tablets that the UAC found with him and his tomb show him clearly fighting with the suit. And the first codex entry explicitly mentions that no-one has managed to activate the suit, with the codex's writer assuming that only the Slayer can do so.

[ancient comet]

still doesn't explain why wouldn't they just idk trash the suit and not leave it right next to him especially because they didn't want for him to ruin their plans

[zealous spindle]

The demons trying to go back to hell: let me in! LET ME IN!

[mossy palm]

because they are hoping he goes full Hexen obviously

O sorry vega

Read about Avernus

If you're interested in PnP RPGs or just a different perspective , check out Zariel

She's an angel who went to hell to wage war and basically became everything she fought against

The classic attempt of hell to corrupt a warrior

Except it backfired because doomguy is a lot more badass than them

||Assuming he's not afraid of Nightmares obviously||

[glad orbit]

Again, Hayden brought the Slayer back because he was afraid of Olivia's plans going out of hand (which they did). Although it seems like a cheap excuse, I'm willing to believe that Olivia just went "Nah it'll be fine. He won't wake up lol xd" and just left it be.

[tall wraith]

What really annoys me about the mastery for the Super Shotgun is that it lets you fire twice before reloading, but the weapon only has one hammer???

[slim pebble]

Anyone else love the designs of UAC soldiers and Elite Guards?

[untold stirrup]

Inconsistencies, I suppose

And yeah 2 shots is op too

[untold stirrup]

Where would they trash it though, they tried all kinds of tests and found it virtually indestructible to their known methods

[ancient comet]

huh really?

i didn't know

but maybe hide it in some kind of pit

the entirety of the uac base is placed near a chasm after all

and based on the technology they had they could just build a elevator or something along those lines and get there and then back up

and hope that doomguy wont fall down there and survive

wait no nvm he would not be able to breathe because we are on mars

yeah so don't even destroy it just put it somewhere away from where doomslayer is and hide his suit OUTSIDE

yeah if olivia pierce had like 2 more braincells the entirety of doom 2016 (and doom eternal) would not be able to happen

[halcyon bear]

He basically has a argent shield that activated after the trap that protected him and kept him alive. There was no way to kill him. He had to be locked up

[untold stirrup]

^

Also, if he can surivive the vacuum of space in Doom Eternal, I cannot see why not in 2016

His suit simply enhances his abilities further

He's a pretty damn broken character

If scaled realistically he's universal+ to low multiversal

With wank, low complex multiversal

[elder meadow]

In doom 2016 most of the glory kills is just the slayer punching the demon once or twice while in eternal doomguy is literally tearing and slicing demons apart like a true Slayer should

[halcyon bear]

Theres a few really good 2016 glory kills. Personally I like the pinky

[scenic egret]

Hey, do any of you guys play on ps4? I'm trying to get the multiplayer trophies and I'm wondering if anyone here wants to play?

[leaden tinsel]

Unfortunately I don't have doom2016 anymore so

[halcyon bear]

Your best bet is it keep trying at different time.

[scenic egret]

True, I suppose it is getting late,

[devout mist]

No...? Like 3 quarters of the glory kills in eternal are repetitive, drawn out stabbing animations. I can think of just 4 decent kills involving that blade. I already gave some examples of just how creative and brutal the kills usually are in 2016. It also helps that 2016 has more glory kills per demon. Don't get me started on the berserk powerup, they utterly butchered berserk in eternal

[halcyon bear]

https://imgur.com/a/eKYdkAR

[devout mist]

https://tenor.com/view/doom-eternal-doom-glory-kill-gif-18709574

[halcyon bear]

Really like the eye stab

[untold stirrup]

I mean yeah they only used it once so not exactly a top priority

And the glory kills aren't exactly bad with the doomblade, just repetitive

Same thing goes for glory killing in 2016 too

It's great dome once in a while for health pickups if you need them

But done constantly they get old

That's why I have Savagery on tbh

I am a constant glory killer as I play pretty aggressively so glory killing is a big part of my gameplay when it happens, but I'm not gonna sit through a 2 second cutscene

SaD, Savagery, and AB does it for me

Constant quickswapping, lots of chainsawing, lots of glory killing for extra topped health

If I pick up berserk, I use SaD, AO, and BF to run around at basically light speed

[torpid saddle]

Hey is there splitscreen multiplayer on 2016?

[heady bear]

where is DOOM 2016 on Xbox Game Pass?

[uneven thistle]

Damn

[left wing]

I saw that snapmap's online features are fixed!

[halcyon bear]

Finally yeah

[vague escarp]

hi, i'm looking to try and beat doom 2016 on nightmare. any good tips for strats and key bindings?

[elder meadow]

Do people still play Doom 2016? or has it been hard to connect to multiplayer

[winged ferry]

bruh multiplayer is dead lmao I've been in a lobby for 15 minutes and nothing has happened

[glad orbit]

It's really just a "Git gud" type of thing lol

Although there Ultra-Nightmare guides on Steam, maybe you can use them as reference for a Nightmare run?

[elder meadow]

That is kinda gorey tho

[elder meadow]

Eternal has that same animation

[ornate basin]

ALL HAIL THE MIGHT TAIL SLAP

The eternal pinky glory kills suck so much

[vague escarp]

cool, thanks

[halcyon bear]

Makes sense. It's a good one

[tall wraith]

I mean 2016's preator suit looks more or less airtight, so I don't see any problems with him then. Eternal's suit is a whole different matter.

[tall wraith]

The thing about Doom 2016's and Eternal's glory kills is the fact that the majority of "death from above" glory kills are some variation of pinning them to the ground and crushing their skull with your foot.

Even the duper heavies.

[halcyon bear]

With that you can cop out with the argent shield argument

[hard peak]

dude i couldnt find a single lobby ive just been doing practice in multiplayer

2016 is dead but i dont wanna spend $60 on eternal

[halcyon bear]

Just the multiplayer. The single player will always be amazing

[elder meadow]

Now don't try to make doomguy look like a bad guy

He just did what he had to do

[glad orbit]

Eh, it's just funny to paint it that way lmao

[tall wraith]

So, what's the best way to master all the weapons without replaying levels?

[elder meadow]

Collect all secrets and complete every challenge

[tall wraith]

I mean is there any order I should get mods in, if I should dedicate all my points to one mod at a time or spend tgem on individual upgrades, etc.

[glad orbit]

There are speedruns out there where they master all weapons, find all secrets and do all challenges in one sitting. Maybe you can watch those and see what strats they use.

But yeah, finding secrets and doing challenges is crucial, since they're your main lifeline for getting weapon upgrade points.

[tall wraith]

I mean I've already been playing for all items so yeah.

If I had any balls I'd speedrun 100% glitchless

[halcyon bear]

It's really depends on your playstyle.

[glad orbit]

Honestly, I don't mind replaying levels.
Unless you don't want your immersion scratched by the fact that you can carry your arsenal through previous levels where you didn't have them.

[halcyon bear]

True. That's never bothered me either

[tall wraith]

It's been three levels since I bought all the improvements yet I still couldn't master the ssg

[untold stirrup]

Just find groups of fodder

It's easy to master it that way

And if you don't care about cheese, you can reload certain checkpoints to master mods faster

[tall wraith]

I thought Double Trouble would be the hardest mastery, but now that I'm in the Titan's Realm, I see my next great challenge: External Payload.

[tall wraith]

I mean I do kinda care about not cheesing, but if I die, so be it.

[untold stirrup]

I find the hardest mastery is probably... the pistol

because no one uses the pistol since it's so trash

but to be serious, external payload is one of the hardest mods to master imo

but once you do, it's so worth it

you can kill a hell knight using 1 rocket

[halcyon bear]

Only time I used the pistol was to finish off a potential glory

[ocean ether]

Doom 2016s style is eye candy to me

[ocean ether]

I can play it with you tomorrow

[halcyon bear]

The grit is definitely real

[ocean ether]

It is

[abstract isle]

The MP's still around, had a few good rounds last night

[odd elbow]

been playing through levels again to get the secrets i missed and i seem to be unable to get no. 4 (the secret plasma rifle in maintenance) and i think it's because i already have one, what do i do

[untold stirrup]

if you already have a gun, picking up a dupe gives ammo

so make sure you deplete some ammo first before picking it up

[odd elbow]

i can pick it up but it's not registering as a secret

[untold stirrup]

perhaps you already picked it up

items don't count as secrets after all

the area they're located in are the ones that are tagged as secrets

[late elbow]

i just beat doom 2016 on Nightmare

[elder meadow]

Bro i told my friend to get doom on his pc and that idiot downloaded doom 2016 instead of doom classic luckily doom 2k16 isnt a bad game

[lofty pollen]

what platform you on?

[tall wraith]

Actually I find that devoting all of your points to it early on you can have it mastered by the end of the Foundry.

Might actually make a list of mastery challenges, their priority, etc.

And if I'm etraordinarily lucky, it might even get pinned.

[halcyon bear]

Let's take a look

[tall wraith]

Just an idea that I'll work on after the obligatory Easter visit to my relatives.

[tall wraith]

Alright, work is being started

[tall wraith]

So the way I'm organizing it is:
Starting the name of the weapon mod
What the mastery does
How early you should work to get it
And how/why you should do it.

[hollow mist]

2016's multiplayer is still way better than battle mode in eternal

[sharp vapor]

nah eternal battlemode is pretty cool

i have yet to try either though

[tender orchid]

Is the precision scope mod any good? For the assault rifle?

I feel like it sorta gets outclassed by the missiles

But I do like how it feels

[tall wraith]

Uhm

It's not even the best scope, I think.

Micro Missiles are definitely better.

[tender orchid]

Exactly

Even with devastator rounds

Just been thinking about micro missiles

Cause like in eternal the missile are really outshined by the scope, but there the missiles are better than they are here!

[tall wraith]

Although with my testing and a little afterthought, I actually recommend not bothering with upgrading the micro missiles until the very end

[tender orchid]

I found bottomless missiles to be unbelievably broken with the rich get richer

Infinite micro missiles lets me fucking SHRED everything

It's the cheesiest cheese I've tried in this game and it made me feel simply dirty

[tall wraith]

So here's why:
The mastery challenge has you stick four different demons in five seconds. You don't actually have to kill the demon, so just do it whenever you want.
Not having the ammo efficiency upgrade makes mastering Vaccuum and Ammo Boost a little easier.

[keen minnow]

So I have a slight out of bounds question for the Lazuras Labs level...while messing with photo mode, I stumbled upon a cube above where the Summoner right before The Cyberdemon is...my question is, what is the cubes purpose?

[crude bluff]

Assault Rifle isn't the best in this game, micro missiles are better

Precision Bolt is so awesome though

[exotic quiver]

Bro I actually never used micro missiles in 2016, I always went for the scope and I fucking love it, I actually like it a lot more than precision bolt in eternal

[pseudo coyote]

whats up slayers

[dim inlet]

Anyone still playing this game on xbox

[warped tapir]

I think one of my Steam achievements is bugged. I completed every challenge in every level plus maxed every rune, but neither achievement unlocked. I took a look at the mission select screen and it turns out that the "interact with two rune stones" challenge in the Advanced Research Complex level is only halfway completed, even though I touched both stones and loading into the level autocompletes the challenge.

Finishing the level does not update the menu, so the challenge is perpetually unfinished no matter what I do.

[tired ruin]

yo guys how do i mod doom?

i want the glory kill mods

[untold stirrup]

It's pretty damn good

Many top players use it, extremely useful for sniping long range assailants

Micro Missiles are medium range at best and can only lock onto targets if you actively had your crosshair over them when you fired the missile

They also do excel at weapon swapping combos

The only mod I find somewhat useless is gatling rotator

[ebon rivet]

hi

[untold stirrup]

Hello

[dim inlet]

If anyone wants to play this game again. Im trying to get people for lobbies so we can all get xp. Message me. Btw this is xbox servers

[warped sluice]

2016 musoc be like ||“ahour ahour ahour ahour”|| fr fr

[halcyon bear]

🔥

[tall wraith]

Yes

[dim inlet]

Damn

[tall wraith]

(Old lady voice) i even have the game on disc, sonny.

[halcyon bear]

Physical is the best

Love the steel book

[dim inlet]

Same. Just re installed it today

[noble venture]

I just found out that you can skip all the stupid blue keycard searching in the foundry by reloading your game at a certain point. Damn, that probably saved alotta time on me

[marsh valve]

just beat doom 2016, now I will play eternal

[abstract marten]

lfg on multiplayer

[worldly rivet]

Which multiplayer mode that has most player?

[abstract marten]

not entirely sure, how about we form a party to play some matches?

[worldly rivet]

Can I join you from asia?

I'm in Thailand

[abstract marten]

oh hey asia gang

[worldly rivet]

Yo sup

[abstract marten]

shall we form a little gc then?

[tall wraith]

Micro Missile staggering on early game "fodder" enemies
1 missile staggers possessed, imps, and unwilling (can outright kill zombies)
3 missiles staggers soldiers (more testing needed on security guys)
4-6 missiles staggers Hell Razers (they seem to have higher damage resistence to explosives than soldiers)
For early and mid-game game usage only, mastered Intimacy is Best not accounted for.

I'll do some more Micro Missile studies after my college design classes are over.

[elder meadow]

I has a question... Why doesn't doom 2016 on switch have a "download snapmap" feature? Kinda ruins the shelf life of doom 2016

Also, I really would love to see the DOOM 4 beta be it's on thing, like it could be a sequel to DOOM 3's storyline, <w<

[rose oyster]

Oh... Its not just me

I was kinda thinking it was a "I have poor mans interwebz" thing so I didnt ask

[elder meadow]

like when I saw it got scrapped I was like, "WTF..?"

I mean, I love DOOM 2016 and how it is now but..

Why not make that into a seperate title?

like spin-offs are a great way to advertise games (like final doom, but nobody liked final doom from what I remember)

[dim inlet]

Anyone eanna join on multiplayer. Xbox one

Were trying to get people to start lobbies for xp

[noble moat]

The switch can’t run it

[elder meadow]

Wut

Is it that weak? QwQ

[noble moat]

Weak? Do you realize how many restrictions snapmap lifts

[elder meadow]

I don't have any other console so no

[noble moat]

Snapmap as is already takes forever to load and such on standard consoles.

[elder meadow]

Damn...

Makes sense

[noble moat]

They barely managed to optimized the set map pieces in the campaign

Now imagine snapmap, with lifted restrictions larger maps more things going on etc

[elder meadow]

But that worries me a bit, cuz I'm thinking of getting doom eternal on switch (with dlc) do they cut anything from the switch version?

[elder meadow]

Yeah I get it, too overwhelming

[noble moat]

No

Eternal has everything

[elder meadow]

Well that's good -w-

[noble moat]

Eternal as a game is more optimized

[elder meadow]

I mean, as a developer, you do have to learn from your mistakes

[noble moat]

They had developed a whole new engine for eternal

So while maps are bigger, better, faster, more enemies, etc, the engine allows it to all work

[elder meadow]

<w< welp I'm satisfied

[tall wraith]

Final Doom had way too many pinkies and chaingunners.

[elder meadow]

Yeah, harder than TAG1

Lmfao

[tall wraith]

I had to use the buddha cheat to beat it lmao

[elder meadow]

Buddha

Wut

[tall wraith]

Buddha cheat prevents your health from going below 1

[untold stirrup]

That's strictly ZDoom cheat I think

[tall wraith]

Oh

[elder meadow]

Wait, but your health never reaches 1 or zero

I think

[elder meadow]

hey me again

so like

my overlay isn't working ;-;

help

[snow heron]

No levels from the base game or DLC are cut I’m not sure if the game has every Master Level (Excluding Cultist ML) though but I think it does

[halcyon bear]

But why would they make a sequel to 2016 improving some of its shortfalls?? Whyy

[elder meadow]

Why does the Bethesda sale always occur on the worst time possibleeee

[pearl fulcrum]

What do you mean by that?

[odd void]

cyberdemon on nightmare is goofy af

[elder meadow]

lmao what

[elder meadow]

https://tenor.com/view/doom-slayer-carlton-dance-moves-grooves-gif-16257196

[tall wraith]

Hey so does using the BFG still validate the "Hold Still" challenge?

I mean quad-damage and Seige Mode gets the job done so nevermind, I guess.

[glad orbit]

It does.

That's the recommended method for doing Hold Still simply for how easy it is with the BFG.

Just make sure both Barons are in your line of sight and press T and go brrrr.

[devout mist]

I like how the death sounds for the pinky are ripped straight from half life 2

[halcyon bear]

Right....

[devout mist]

Don't believe me?

[halcyon bear]

Just think you have hearing issues. Not to be mean or anything

[devout mist]

https://youtu.be/8OFgioKYNIU

[devout mist]

Go to 0:16, it's literally the same sound

[halcyon bear]

Hahahaha fucking guy. You're actually right. Nice catch

[young reef]

best doom game

[elder meadow]

you guys there?

[shell loom]

sooo...the sound effects arent stock sound effects like the classics?

[halcyon bear]

No

[tall wraith]

I just wanna mention that I love the little music stings that play in some levels when you do a glory kill

[slim pebble]

Glad they got rid of the HL2 zombie death sound for the Pinky in Eternal

[ornate basin]

Tfw eternal removed the pinky tail slap

[dim inlet]

Anyone wanna join on xbox

We doing mp

[quasi prism]

Im here

[grizzled glen]

Batman arkham origins is here

[worthy mantle]

Batman Arkcum Asylum

[elder meadow]

Anyone wanna play multiplayer on Nintendo switch?

[tall token]

On nightmare, it seems like doomguy is made of duct tape and toothpicks lmao

One imp fireball can do like 60 damage

It's giving off Halo 2 Legendary vibes 😑

[abstract light]

it possible to enable the dev console in the DOOM 2016 Demo?

[snow heron]

There’s a demo?

[abstract light]

sure check on steam

[snow heron]

I got the game on sale for 5 bucks so never played the demo. Though I do now entering dev mode in the full game can corrupt a save file (Happened to me) dunno if it does that in the demo

[abstract light]

it costs for me like 79 buck

[snow heron]

Yeesh

[abstract light]

because i have it in PLN

[fathom osprey]

I beat the game 2 times in 3 months

masterpiece

[untold stirrup]

Yep, 90 damage max

Imps are the super heavies in NM

They will 1 shot you from literally the other side of the arena

[halcyon bear]

If you're not always moving. Rookie mistake

[untold stirrup]

always moving erratically*

moving in predictable motions will still get you sniped

[halcyon bear]

Who the fuck moves In a straight line in doom anyways

That's a given

[untold stirrup]

People who've never played NM

It's a huge jump that'll immediately point out your bad habits like it did for me when I started playing NM

One of them being moving, but not moving properly

[devout mist]

I love nightmare and especially UN in this game. With how unforgiving it is, you feel like you're just one minor error away from death at all times. Just a non stop adrenaline rush

[blazing horizon]

I play a lot of DOOM 2016, more than I do Eternal, because I experiment with one game before the other, I have played Eternal and have finished it, I just don't really play it as often as I do 2016.

[abstract light]

Ok so can you enable fucking cheats in 2016 demo?

[grizzled glen]

I'm sorry, what kind of cheats?😳 😳

[abstract light]

like idkfa iddqd, idka, ida

[grizzled glen]

That's not the type of cheats you requested 😳 😳 😳

[sharp vapor]

no horny in doom server

[abstract marten]

lfg to play multiplayer

[lofty pollen]

which platform?

[abstract marten]

pc

[untold stirrup]

you can do that using the dev console pretty sure

[abstract light]

but how?

[untold stirrup]

but I'm not sure if you can install mods into the demo

[abstract light]

I mean cheats

[untold stirrup]

console is activated by pressing the ~ key

[abstract light]

i'll try

[untold stirrup]

yes exactly, you have to enter them into the console although I'm not too keen on what cheats are available anymore on the dev console, but it does unlock a few other commands that are pretty useful

I know for sure god is one of the cheats as I've used that before

and technically g_timefreeze would count as noclip

[abstract light]

doesnt work

[untold stirrup]

are you pressing just the key or shift + `?

[abstract light]

yes but i trrigers an discord

i'll try now

nope, well i will just need to buy full version

[untold stirrup]

looks like the only code that works is god mode in 2016

apparently the others are disabled

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/854794877594501143/967475920136978522/Screen_Shot_2022-04-23_at_1.21.48_PM.png

[woeful wind]

do people still play this

[untold stirrup]

2016? absolutely

[halcyon bear]

Hahahaha... " do people still play one of the best fps games ever made just because it isn't shiny and new anymore "

[tall wraith]

Totally.

The music stings in Kadingir Sanctum are timeless

[rocky dome]

Does anyone have images of the echelon ranks from multiplayer

[sullen galleon]

El multijugador está chido

[lime robin]

hi, i am using doom 2016 from steam. i have 2x 2T samsung 970 evo plus ssds on this laptop and it runs windows 11. if i get doom 2016 installed on ssd that is not the one that has OS installed (lets call it data drive) - loading times become way too long. it just freeze at checkpoint reload without % counter. if i move it to another ssd that has OS installed (lets call it system drive) - it goes to % counter immediately during reloads. is there a workaround? crystaldisk mark have similar performance on both ssds

[sullen galleon]

Idk

[rocky dome]

Have you verified your game files

[lime robin]

yes, nothing wrong with them

oh, it is a vulkan to blame. something reset it back from opengl

[rocky dome]

I'm thinking it would be an issue with Windows 11, I'm on Windows 10 and have no issues with storing the game on external storage devices or internal

[rocky dome]

Ah ok

[lime robin]

i am using mobile rtx 3080 and no idea why vulkan cause so much trouble with doom 2016. it even permanently freeze or cause game exit/quit (crash?) from time to time

[atomic horizon]

https://youtu.be/iSP20kCD5es
I did not know this…even Doom 2016 has a feature that punishes circumventing UN players.

In Eternal, cheating on UN (Alt+F4) causes you to spawn with all of your weapons and equipments removed.
2016, copying save files in the difficulty and loading it causes your health to rapidly drain upon spawn.

[torpid grotto]

Does the Summoner from Doom 2016 remind anyone else of the Angel of Death from Hellboy ii: the golden army?

[halcyon bear]

Yee

[torpid grotto]

Ikr! I really want to draw a combo of the two

[halcyon bear]

Go for it. I'd love to see that

[torpid grotto]

Ight!

[fossil island]

Just practice on Nightmare

[halcyon bear]

Yeah. What I do is play a nightmare run until a get a couple no death runs. Then un it

[atomic horizon]

Some question, can you earn A Toe Into Madness by completing The UAC in the Arcade Mode; which has the UN difficulty, or do you have to finish it through an actual campaign?

[halcyon bear]

For me I played base campaign and make sure you start a new game on un

[tall token]

That's a horrible way to lose so much progress

[tall token]

What about a game genuinely crashing?

Anyone else go through the game mostly using the Gauss Gun & Super Shotgun?

[delicate robin]

Is anyone up for multiplayer?

[elder meadow]

hi

[elder meadow]

hey

[abstract marten]

yes

[abstract marten]

pc?

[elder meadow]

yeah man super shoty is the best man

[slim pebble]

Vortex Rifle is such a sexy looking gun

[untold stirrup]

Eh, if you mean use it in combos a lot sure then maybe since it is the meta

But exclusively? No, takes little to no skill to spam them

[tall wraith]

Those were actually my least used weapons on my latest playthrough 😂

[sharp vapor]

how do doom 2016 combos work

[tall wraith]

Get the weapon swap praetor upgrade ASAP, for starters

[sharp vapor]

i see

but like

is it just because quick switching ignores reloads

so you do damage faster

or are there specific mechanics behind combos

[snow heron]

Not so much reloads yet more so the short cooldown between shots and when regularly swapping between weapons.

[sharp vapor]

i see

my wording was off

but thank you

[snow heron]

I’ve seen people use the Siphon Grenade during combos and pair that with combos like Micro Missile x SSG or Gauss Cannon can melt Cyber Mancubi and Barons

[tall wraith]

2016's Micro Missiles are probably the best mod in the game. Sure, Seige Mode has raw firepower, but Micro Missiles have utility.

[snow heron]

I wouldn’t say the best mod in the game due to the fact their only really useful when you make them Fire endlessly otherwise Siege Mode, Mobile Turret, Stun Bomb are so much more useful

[tall wraith]

Ooooh yeah how could I forget? Mobile Turret my beloved <3

[untold stirrup]

Mobile Turret >>> Gatling Rotator

[tall token]

Mobile turret go brbrbrbrbrbrbrbr

Weapon switching on controller is so annoying in 2016.

Well when you need to switch to something on the wheel

I wish it snapped like in eternal. There have been a few times when I accidentally swapped to the bfg and didn't want to.

[elder meadow]

Dunno why does the gatling rotator even exist

[sand veldt]

Does anyone know if Multiplayer still works on xbox? I cant find any games

[snow heron]

Not really, I first played DOOM 2016 on Switch before getting a PC and in my experience quick swapping on controller or keyboard ain’t all too different

You can just tap the button for weapon wheel on controller and it’ll switch to your last used weapon

[slim pebble]

I like the Gauss Gun more than the Ballista

[halcyon bear]

Seige

[untold stirrup]

I mean the damage actually is somewhat comparable since I somewhat tested the two mods but besides that gatling rotator still has poor accuracy and precision

At leasy mobile turret increases both accuracy and precision

[slim pebble]

Yeah, for that exact reason

[untold stirrup]

Siege is good but on the lower difficulties it's basically broken

[cloud mountain]

I play 2016 on Xbox too I thought the game was just abandoned but I might think it could be a bug or something not allowing console to cross play or something

Idk I got myself back onto 2016 after a while

[hard peak]

switch

[crude bluff]

This is facts

They are very useful as well early on if you're playing on a difficult mode

[tall wraith]

1 missile staggers an imp, three staggers a soldier, and four missiles staggers a hell razer.

[strange stirrup]

Does anyone agree that 2016 is better than eternal?

[pulsar bear]

They both gud in my opinion

[flint dune]

Agreed. Both are great.

[untold stirrup]

Some people. Most are in consensus that both are good

[fast trellis]

both are good but 2016 doesnt require a bethesda account to play so that encouraged me to buy it

[slim pebble]

2016 has better weapon and demon designs but Eternal has a wider variety of locations and is very fast-paced so it's sort of a 50/50

[worthy mantle]

I feel like the weapon designs of eternal were better

Demon designs in 2016 were cool asf though

They butchered the revenant in eternal

[tall wraith]

Here's my comparasion of 2016 and Eternal, which I think are both good.
2016: chainsaw ammo upgrades, csg and ssg firing sounds, grittier version of hell, Damnation + Rip and Tear are amazing soundtracks, snapmap had some potential.
Eternal: stricter ammo economy encourages more variety in weapon choice, multiplayer is unique and difficult to master, master levels have really fun classic modes, weapon mods all have some kind of use.

The pacing and chainsaw system in Eternal are really good, but I will say 2016's sound design is my favorite in the series.

[slim pebble]

I like how Eternal gave enemies weak spots that affect their attacks (Mancubus cannons fire slower and weaker fireballs, Revenants resort to melee, etc.)
2016 gives too much ammo and Eternal not as much, which is a bit of a double-edged sword.
Also, demons could glory kill you in 2016 which was removed in Eternal for some reason.

[untold stirrup]

I feel like some people didn't like how long it took for the demons to kill you

[abstract light]

Doom 2016 is my best and most favorite game on hole steam. Cheap, Snap map, more interesting weapons Eternal: Very expensive for me, no smap map

[halcyon bear]

Snap map was a great time. Cool to see all that creativity

[cloud mountain]

I would spend hours on that one snap map where you had to fight a baron of hell with your fists

[slim pebble]

I wish it returned in Eternal. Lots of possibilities with the new demons

[halcyon bear]

I think everyone does honestly. It just needed some refining

Not scrapping haha

[slim pebble]

^

[elder meadow]

Was up

[dim inlet]

Whats down

[elder meadow]

Hell

[thin meadow]

Does anyone know where I can ask about how to resolve a technical issue with Doom 2016? I've been having problems with trying to get it to run properly on my gaming laptop.

[vague laurel]

Does anyone know any good maps in doom 2016?

[snow heron]

Like levels or SnapMap?

[atomic horizon]

Bethesda support?

[elder meadow]

becus the ballista is the nerfed gauss gun ofc youre gonna pick the non nerfed one

[vague laurel]

Snap map

[tall token]

What demon design do you like in 2016 more than eternal? For me: Cacodemon, Baron of Hell, and the Imp look better in 2016.

[elder meadow]

the imp barely changes

[slim pebble]

The Possessed. Better than 2016's zombies and their weird flesh-colored clothing

[tall token]

While yes that is true, I think it's a little too bright in eternal.

[elder meadow]

not much looked better in 2016 imo
especially the cacodemon. expressive caco best caco

[tall token]

Yea in general the eternal designs are better but to me there are a few exceptions. One standout thing to me though is that the cyber mancubus in 2016 looks awful lol

[elder meadow]

iirc theyre two different entities

so the mancubus didnt really change

but yes, the 2016 mancubus looks like a cake with 2 guns

[halcyon bear]

I think the alien crustacean look of the 2016 mancubus is pretty neat. And the lore around it

[devout mist]

All except the cacodemon and cyber mancubus

[tender orchid]

I love the eternal cacodemon combat design

They're way easier to cheese with arbalest or sticky bombs

BUT they are way more dangerous and aggressive

Spitting out a hail of fireballs from a distance or with their surprisingly long distance jump to bite you if they're close

[warped tundra]

[tender orchid]

I think it's a neat balance that they're way easier to kill but can also do more damage

Cause I never really felt threatened by 2016 cacodemons

But I rember in the super gore nest master level getting yeeted out of nowhere by all 5 cacodemons doing the rapid fire projectile attack at the same time

[tall token]

Good times lol

I finished doom 2016 on nightmare 100% today. Felt good!

While the first two missions were quite tough, the rest of the game felt easier than eternal

I now see why id software said they played it safe wrt the state of the game

Though I did use the bfg glitch on the spider mastermind lmao

And I wish I could have experienced doom 2016 when matchmaking was more active. I really hope they can make a good arena multiplayer for the next doom game.

[sharp vapor]

hell knight

[tall token]

You know, I could get behind that too

[sharp vapor]

i'm a sucker for the doom 3 demons

[tall token]

I actually gotta play the classic doom games

[worthy cloud]

doom 3 demons just show more fear rather than intimidation in their design, which it's pretty cool

[tall token]

I actually never played the og doom until after beating both 2016 and eternal and it was so cool hearing how the main theme was reinterpreted from the first game.

[sharp vapor]

classic demons are more recognizable but the doom 3 ones had interesting takes on making them creepier, which i like

[worthy cloud]

mhm, meanwhile doom 2016 and eternal made them look more intimidating, along with the weapon designs

[sharp vapor]

yep

[worthy cloud]

now which weapon designs do you guys like throughout the doom games?

[brave bolt]

pistol

its the weapon i used the most

about tied with super shotgun

[worthy cloud]

...actually it's pretty hard to pick, the super shotgun can deal pretty big damage, but it can chew through ammo pretty quick if your shots don't land

[sharp vapor]

doom eternal plasma rifle looks the coolest to me

[worthy cloud]

and the minigun is pretty fun to use, but it also chews through ammo...

well i think the super shotgun from eternal is the coolest

[abstract isle]

I think my favourite gun is heavy rifle with micro missiles, or the super shotty

Getting a haste powerup and micromissiles is so much fun, I wish micro missiles was in the mp

[little fractal]

I completely agree with you on that. Those two was just all I used 😅

[untold stirrup]

Super shotty broken with double fire

[little fractal]

Yeah

Nothing else I could say to that

[tall wraith]

Turning cacodemons into a glass cannon is honestly that bit of variety needed for the modern demon roster.

I do admit I greatly miss 2016's baron design.

[untold stirrup]

I think 2016's baron design edges out Eternal's design, but I do think they're both awesome

[tall wraith]

Interesting thought: since barons and hell knights have always been relatively close (Doom 2 knights were reskins of barons, Doom 3 used knights as a replacement for barons, 2016 and Eternal barons are essentially bigger knights with projectiles), would it be possible that hell knights could metamorphasize into barons of hell?

Well, that's what I meant

Also dread kights' flesh have the same tan coloring of the og hell knights, so do with that info what you will.

[leaden valve]

Doctor Samuel Hayden is the best bro. The intro is the best and most epic part of the game (I think). Cracking your knuckles, you are ready to face the evil you must fight.

[slim pebble]

I think the Possessed should've just been called Lazarites

[cinder matrix]

Is there anyone who would be willing to play online (PC) for achievements later?

[iron dagger]

Hey so i've noticed that you perform different glory kills if you are near a wall e.g. Doomguy kicks a possesed to the wall if you are near one then crushes its head against the wall.
Is this something that Doom Eternal has as well or is it just Doom '16?

[halcyon bear]

[red flume]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7IfIZ-iKJUI
My prefrontal cortex is activated

[untold stirrup]

just 2016

due to the open nature of Eternal's worlds, it would be very rare to kill a demon near a wall

[leaden valve]

Hmm i love the death from above on imps

[red flume]

that's a very polite way to say that id dropped the ball with environmental/contextual glory kills.
One of the many things that 2016 does better than Eternal.

[slim pebble]

^

[iron dagger]

Overall i think Eternal is a better game with it's movement mechanics and other stuff, but I feel really compelled towards Doom '16 anyway? Idk how to explain it

[halcyon bear]

You should just enjoy both games as there own unique thing and diving in. Comparing the 2 won't end up ending to well

[leaden valve]

The graphics for eternal look really nice

[iron dagger]

yeah thats true

[red flume]

My draw to 2016 is that it feels like a game that was crafted, whereas Eternal feels like it was developed. Polish and mastery came at the expense of reverence and expression.

[iron dagger]

I don't think any other statement could sum it up better

[sharp vapor]

i think that hell knights get promoted to the baron rank by some ritual and that's when they get their horns and stuff

[tall wraith]

Interesting and appropriately occultist.

[tall wraith]

I like how cohesive Mars is in 2016. Meanwhile in Eternal you're zipping up and down and all around Earth, Argent D'Nur, Hell, Urdak, and whatever the fuck is going on in Mars Core I mean it's my favorite level in the game but oh my god I have no idea where I am half the time 😂

Only totally unrelated point, anyone else notice that pretty much none of the official versions of Damnation have the hell choir segments unique to the version you hear in Titan's Realm?

[abstract isle]

I prefer the variety Eternal gives to the level design, 2016 was just Mars, Hell, Mars but a lab, Mars but outside, Hell again, Hell but with some castle bits

The MP maps show a variety of level design and themes and it's a shame none of it showed up until Eternal

[tall wraith]

Fair point. The variety of levels in Eternal shows just how much the demon's territory and influence has grown. It's kinda terrifying, actually.

[iron dagger]

Doom '16 has a linear structure, only taking place in Mars and Hell and reminds me a LOT of Half-Life 1 and surprisingly feels like a horror game?
Doom Eternal meanwhile feels like your on a cross-country holiday just exploring loads of places...and saving the world at the same time.

[tall wraith]

The Argent Facility levels use one of my favorite gaming tropes: returning to an old area with new abilities that fundamentally change how you play it.

[iron dagger]

Yeah that's true. Also Doom '16 feels really lonely

[tall wraith]

Funny how VEGA is the most humane character in that game.
Doomguy is just a killing machine the whole time
Olivia is of course the antagonist
and Samuel goes out of his way to remove the Slayer from the equation at the end of the game.
VEGA is just being polite and helpful to everyone.

He even appologizes and admits that he has regrets when you destroy his core. He does nothing to stop you, and even encourages and walks you through the process of effectively killing him.

[iron dagger]

VEGA might actually be the nicest character in the series, most other characters seem pretty cold/mean

[tall wraith]

It's almost like ID actually researched proper sci-fi and acknowledged the existence of Asimov's laws.

[elder meadow]

I really miss being able to just saw super heavy's in half with the chainsaw

[elder meadow]

I agree

[elder meadow]

Alongside the field drones lol

[solemn hollow]

If I die during a rune trial on ultra nightmare, is it gonna return me back to the beginning just like a normal death?

[flint dune]

Luckily death in rune trials don’t count, no.

[solemn hollow]

HELL YES

thats a relief

[elder meadow]

WHERE IS THE BLUE KEY IN FOUNDRY

[elder meadow]

I'm trying to find the blue key in foundry

[solemn hollow]

Search on youtube

It will help you the best

[untold stirrup]

^

[glad orbit]

So you know that gore nest that has a chainsaw pickup before you enter its room and has only a Possessed Soldier and a Possessed Engineer before you destroy the nest?
Once you destroyed the nest and killed everyone there, go up the stairs that should be in the room and the door that leads to the keycard should be to your right.

Then just drop down on the platforms right in front of you and you'll be back in front of the blue doors.

Also, extra tip: If you go left befote entering the door, you can find the Automap too.

[leaden valve]

Nice

[dire blaze]

Can anybody possibly help me win one multiplayer match for the platinum trophy?? I actually need to hit lvl 5 as well but id be very thankful for just one game

[cinder matrix]

I've been needing to play online for steam achievements, so if we can get a room going today I'd be willing to play

[slim pebble]

Anyone else notice the dead Possessed in Foundry? I wonder who killed them.

[elder meadow]

Probably from infighting. They could've been bullied by other demons

[steep tulip]

Yeeeaaah
I can attest
In my playthrough imps are always bullying the shit out of possessed/unwilling

Actual demons rarely ever fight

[elder meadow]

Poor possessed

Demons are so fucking racist

[steep tulip]

Aside from a few specific encounters like the mancubus and revenant pair

Spoilers

The revenants won

[elder meadow]

Yeah in Kadingir lol

[left wing]

Revenants are still human possessed demons, not of hell origin. They are a result of a program designed to subject super soldiers to lethal levels of Argent Energy [or Lazarus Waves, as the document suggests]

[steep tulip]

To be fair, they can actually defend themselves

[steep tulip]

But yeah

So demon on demon fights are even rarer than I thought lol

[left wing]

pretty much

[grizzled glen]

In 2016 and eternal can demons in fight naturally or just in the specific moments when they're required to fight

[noble moat]

Only specific moments

In 2016 they can at least however damage each other if they walked in front of a fireball

Eternal they don’t do damage

[elder meadow]

I love the more enviromental based glory kills in 2016 like if you push an enemy up against a wall you'll get a different glory kill

[weary elk]

Ikr

[elder meadow]

Time for fatal falls in argent tower

[noble patio]

Nice name sir

[sonic kraken]

I never actually beat 2016, I'm still stuck on the cyberdemon boss fight

I can get through it's stage 1 without hassle, but I always die on stage 2

[elder meadow]

does anyone still play the multiplayer more Doom 2016?

oof

[halcyon bear]

What difficulty?

[sonic kraken]

i haven't played in a bit, but i think 'hurt me plenty'

[halcyon bear]

Try sticking to your gauss bolt and rockets

Bfg for second stage and repeat

[leaden valve]

Try ultra violence or nightmare

[leaden valve]

Mostly eternal. Rip 2016 multiplayer

[cinder matrix]

If you are up for it I need to play some multi-player

Not right now, but any other time

[elder meadow]

sure, when?

[cinder matrix]

Well right now for me it's 12am so any time this evening Saturday.

We need to have a minimum of 4 players iirc though

[elder meadow]

sounds good

[cinder matrix]

Someone else was asking about multi-player earlier

[elder meadow]

Who?

[cinder matrix]

@dire blaze

[elder meadow]

okay

[broken stratus]

will core 2 duo e7200 X GT 1030 OC handle doom 2016?

[ancient comet]

Geforce experience my ass
I clicked optimise game so it could run better and now it looks worse and runs worse then before with 25fps max when before i swear i had 40 at least

[sharp vapor]

the geforce experience

[ancient comet]

The game looks so fu ing terrible now i can see the pixels and once again it doesnt even make the game smoother it just makes it lag way more

Its unplayable and i quit after before i finished the first level and im pretty sure i cant revert to the old settings anymore

[broken stratus]

it could set different renderer

[untold stirrup]

Da fuq, if the person said they can't get past cyberdemon phase 2 on hurt me plenty, how do you think tey'll do on ultra violence or nightmare

[halcyon bear]

Probably not a good idea if he's having issues on hurt me plenty

[steep tulip]

Does anyone notice how the 2016 mancubus and cacodemon look quite similar?

[tall wraith]

Here's the trick: in phase two, as long as you can still jump, powerful weapons that are usually hindered by enemy mobility (like lock-on burst and mobile turret) are very good against the cyberdemon's hallway attack.

[halcyon bear]

I'd just stick to bolt and rocket to be honest.

[broken stratus]

why does vulkan renderer option prevents game loading after loading with percents

when DOOM sign disappears, and begins next stage of loading, it just doesn't respond

help

[exotic quiver]

For the cyberdemon I just spam remote det on phase 1 and he dies in like 15 seconds lmao

Phase 2 is dangerous tho, dont give him any chances and just burn all your BFG ammo from the get go

[halcyon bear]

Remote det! Yeah great option. Still think bolt is important though

[quiet tendon]

Hi everyone. I want to play doom 2016 multiplayer on the ps4, but the lobby is a ghost town. I want to get the two multiplayer trophy; win a single match and reach level 5. Anyone interested, add me on psn at AfroDizzyYack92

[cinder matrix]

So I'm doing practice runs (nightmare) in preparation for bearing the game on ultra nightmare. In the 3rd level foundry, I went to the gore nest right above all the lava on the walkways before I got the red key. Is there any way out of that area if you don't have a red key or are you just fucked? I've walked around this area and most exists make it mandatory to have a red key

[abstract isle]

The gore nest in the middle of the map?

[cinder matrix]

Yes

[abstract isle]

If you take the walkways round, there should be a jump pad taking you near to the starting walkway

[cinder matrix]

Ohhh the doors are locked until I destroy the gore nest

So if I go down there I can't golet out until I kill the gore nest first

Just checking to get the best stiluff in the area before I do the major stuff

[eternal oak]

i'm very happy to be playing doom for the first time ever recently! i was a big fan of bring me the horizon's post human: survival horror which was partly produced by mick gordon... i'm now obsessed with the soundtrack for both doom 2016 and doom eternal and i've begun to play the former. it's so fun and action packed and i can see myself really falling down this rabbithole

[halcyon bear]

That's awesome! Never let your passion die!

[eternal oak]

🤘

[fossil bone]

I agree

[broken stratus]

please...

[onyx wagon]

Same

[buoyant pulsar]

I just played the DOOM 2016 demo

And all I can say is…

HOLY CRAP

[fossil bone]

Nice

[buoyant pulsar]

I’ll buy it on during the steam summer sale

So that I can save money

Also because it coincidentally starts somewhere around my birthday lol

It’s sorta fitting.

[noble moat]

On average I think I see it go on sale for like $5-10 so sale def good

[elder meadow]

the xbox store has frequent sales, i got the slayer's collection for 15 bucks

[elder meadow]

Where is the secret gauss cannon in argent energy tower

[broken stratus]

is it secret?

I just found it randomly

[broken stratus]

guys, I didn't get help anywhere, so I came here. help with DOOM 2016 doesn't responding in "loading title data" loading stage.. I really need help, I didn't find it anywhere.. I tried to install runtime, update drivers, find help on any resources but didn't find any solution except just fallback to GL

[halcyon bear]

Rip

[slim pebble]

There's a secret super shotgun in Argent Tower

[halcyon bear]

Before

[slim pebble]

👀

[buoyant flax]

Ok who thinks doom 2016 multiplayer is better than eternals

[golden fable]

Me

I played doom Eternal multiplayer more but 2016 is og shit

Really reminds me of halo

[abstract isle]

2016's mp is better imo, feels more like a standard mp than the "boxing match" thing eternal has going on

Becoming a demon is much more fun when it's a rare powerup

[sharp vapor]

battlemode looks like a lot of fun

i think i can play it with my friend on his switch when he gets doom eternal

[leaden condor]

Fall down the elevator before the end, and hold w

[slim pebble]

Argent Energy Tower seems to be the only place in campaign where you can die from fall damage.

[elder meadow]

I feel they should add like y'know the zombies mode on CoD? but DOOM, cuz like the doom 2016 died for me too quickly I want mroee

[scarlet sky]

yeah a zombies (demon hoarde) mode would be real fun

[halcyon bear]

I have a good time with it

[devout mist]

There's already a lot of cod zombies style maps in the snapmap mode

[elder meadow]

Yo

So can I ask something?

[solemn hollow]

If there's something I love about doom 2016 more than eternal is how insanely angry the soundrack is

Dont get me wrong, eternal has a lot of good osts

It's just that osts like rip and tear and skullhacker really scream "outrage to me"

I just love it

[elder meadow]

YEAH man those sound tracks give me rage vibes so i could play much more violent

[elder meadow]

I'm on switch

[elder meadow]

Agree

[solemn hollow]

yup

[elder meadow]

Lol

[tall wraith]

At the part where you shoot down the elevator, fall down the shaft a ways and as long as you're hugging the outermost wall Doomguy should catch the ledge where it's at.

[tall wraith]

Don't forget Damnation and BFG Division.

[cinder matrix]

If anyone wants to try to play doom multi-player today or tomorrow I will be free at almost any time

[zealous spindle]

Platform?

[cinder matrix]

Pc

[zealous spindle]

I play on PS4, sorry

[abstract light]

me too, i acctually exploded of joy when i saw doom demo

doom 2016 is for me more SCI-FI and og better graphics PL sounds, PL texts, PL everything Every language is supported

[strange verge]

how do pinkies mate?

[halcyon bear]

?

[granite hedge]

Is doom 2016 multiplayer dead? On Xbox trying to get the remaining PvP achievements

[granite hedge]

Does PC have cross play with Xbox?

[cinder matrix]

It does not unfortunately

[strange verge]

you read that correctly

[halcyon bear]

No I'm just wondering if you know anything about biology

[untold stirrup]

Demons spawn infinitely, they have no need to do the deed

https://tenor.com/view/doom-doom-eternal-glory-kill-doom-glory-kill-doom-eternal-zombie-gif-18694440

[exotic quiver]

Man, that glory kill is so funny

[elder meadow]

U ain't wrong

[slim pebble]

Looks painful, even for a living corpse

[verbal siren]

His spinal column probs just shattered in many places.

[untold stirrup]

To punt a human head into the torso like that I'm pretty sure it was calc'ed to take a few metric tons

[strange verge]

wdym?

[strange verge]

it the data logs for the spectre implies that pinky demons mate

[untold stirrup]

No, mutations can happen :p

Archviles exist and could've replicated spectres, we'll never know

[halcyon bear]

Specs were made by the UAC using caco and pinky DNA

[tall wraith]

So from what I understand, gore nests allow for the spawning and creation of demons. According to Charles Darwin's theory of evolution, the generations will change based on which specimens are most suited for their environment. However in this case, evolution is embodied by the dark lord. Such traits he would deem desirable will be spawned into the next generation of demons, demons that are created by gore nests. Demonic consumption will usually involve the killing of indigenous species, creating material to make more gore nests, perpetuating the cycle provided the horde has a sense of guidance and direction. The gore material will form into demons, with the nest spewing the hell energy that gives life to the spawned demons.

So ultimately, pinkies reproduce more like fungus than an animal.

[quiet tendon]

Hi everyone. Need multiplayer players for the ps4. I just need to get to level 5 and win one match. Hope to find someone here. Add me on PSN AfroDizzyYack92

[slim pebble]

There were supposed to be weapon-specific glory kills. Kinda wish they stayed in the game.

[elder meadow]

Hí everyone my live in twich It's started if anyone wants to look at me then look for me HUNterTomX

[snow heron]

There’s a mod for the PC version that reimplements some weapon exclusive Glory Kills

[tepid jolt]

I’ve finally bought 2016 and am updating it! Verrrry slowly………

[keen slate]

has anyone else tried doom brawler mode that people posted onto youtube and reddit (rather old but I'm new to the community!)

[lusty crescent]

Hello everyone. I'm currently busy with a big project, which is creating my own black ops zombies map in DOOM 2016. It is faaarrr from done and since DOOM's snap maps are NOT made to create a game such as Black ops zombies, means that I'm in for a complex difficult time. And it is now soo much that the chance actually becomes bigger that I may overlook some things during creating by accident, despite all of the time I have tested it. In a few days I'm going to release a testing beta version of it, and I hope that some of you can test it out for me, and try to find out if there are any bugs/glitches or something that doesn't work all together as it was intended, or I still miss something important. Do note that a lot more WILL be added into the game eventually. So if you are interested, either message me here or in private.

[untold stirrup]

Nice

[indigo oar]

Hello I'm new to the server

[glossy bronze]

Me too

[flint dune]

Ah, welcome to the server then

[shut vault]

me too,im an old time fan of DOOm

i think its the best FPS game

[glossy bronze]

Yea

[shut vault]

the father of all the FPS and splatter games

[glossy bronze]

But I know doom on 2016

But i dont have money

[shut vault]

from how much time do you play DOOM?

[glossy bronze]

On doom 2016 mode nightmare uh

Wait some min let me check

105 hours

[shut vault]

so you dont have DOOM Eternal?

gg

[glossy bronze]

I just have doom 2016 and I will but doom eternal

[shut vault]

let me check for me

you play from ps4?

[glossy bronze]

Am play on pc

[shut vault]

oh

gg

what is your favourite doom 2016 boss?

[glossy bronze]

Mastermind

[shut vault]

mine is cyber-demon for estetic and Mastermind for the epic kill

[glossy bronze]

Cool man

[shut vault]

like today i played doom 1993

i beated the mastermind

and yesterday the cyber-demon

now i am at chapter 4 mission 2

[glossy bronze]

Jeez

[shut vault]

after doom 1993 i will play doom 2,doom 64,doom 3,i will restart doom 2016 and doom Eternal

i buyed it all

[glossy bronze]

Same I will buy all too but not now

[shut vault]

right now im at the hall of doom eternal

i completed 30 minutes ago the DLC: The Ancient Gods part 1

i think that tomorrow i will start The Ancient Gods part 2

[glossy bronze]

Then good luck man

[shut vault]

thanks 🙂

do you wanna play a game in doom 2016 with me?

[glossy bronze]

Sure but not now

[shut vault]

ok no problem

can i send to you the frienship request?

[glossy bronze]

Sure

[shut vault]

ok

i send it

[vague hound]

@glossy bronze @shut vault are y’all still on doom 2016

[elder meadow]

welcome

[hushed cosmos]

yo why does doom 2016 give me less frames and higher frame rate drops

[tepid jolt]

Relative to what?

Having come back to replay this game after Doom 3, I’m seeing the Doom 3 influences everywhere

[sharp vapor]

play all the notable classic doom megawads

oh and final doom obviously

[sharp vapor]

sunder is one of them i think

[sharp vapor]

valiant, ancient aliens, alien vendetta, sunlust, stardate 20x6, stardate 20x7, and back to saturn x are the ones i can think of off the top of my head

[tepid jolt]

What is the best way to kill the shield zombies? The only reliable answer I’ve found has been the chainsaw

[sharp vapor]

stun mod?

[tepid jolt]

Is that the bomb function on the plasma rifle?

[sharp vapor]

yes

[tepid jolt]

Thanks I’ll try that

[sonic niche]

i just joined this server and i feel like i belong

[flint dune]

Splash damage from the Explosive shot mod (Shotgun) and Rocket Launcher. Their shields are also weak to plasma in general. Still takes a bit to burn through but it’s significantly faster than with other ammo types.

[tepid jolt]

Okay thanks

[pale anvil]

what does this sp mean?

combat shotgun
DAMAGE INFORMATION
NORMAL DAMAGE
220-246 (SP)
AMMO INFORMATION
AMMO TYPE
Shells
MAX. AMMO
20-60 (SP)
40 (MP)

what is SP and MP ?

single player / multiple player ?

[scarlet dove]

Do we know who the demonic voice was in doom 2016?

The dark lord maybe?

When you first arrive in the kadinger sanctum a voice says "he is here"

That's who I'm talking about

[abstract isle]

Rockets, grenades, it's easy to take down shields

or chainsaws

[coarse kiln]

kinda annoyed, I was replaying through 2016 and found out that in the Foundry, when Olivia Pierce does her shenanigans with the argent tower - with the cool hologram animation - there's no hologram anymore and she's just moving her hands in the air like a mime.

Verified the game files but nothing was found.
Is that a known issue?

[sharp vapor]

i imagine a cacodemon cleared his throat and said it

[shut vault]

hey guys

who wants to play doom 2016 or eternal online?

[keen slate]

chainsaw is essential w/o ammo upgrades

[slim pebble]

I wonder who killed the Pinky that killed the scientist with the yellow keycard

[potent dagger]

Probably a guy as powerful as the doomguy

[wise cape]

or maybe they were capable enough

[thick lava]

Or maybe a hell knight

[keen slate]

infighting between demons

[wise cape]

I didn't know demons were like brutal family xD

[manic sedge]

Maybe the pinky committed suicide

[keen slate]

D;

[manic sedge]

Or he could be sleeping

While eating a snack

[untold stirrup]

yes

[tall wraith]

If you can move fast enough through the hallway leading to the room, (such as skipping the elite guard that's right there) the graphic that is used in the animation won't be loaded in by the time the cutscene starts.

[snow heron]

I’d assume so this weapons need to be balanced for multiplayer right?

[craggy apex]

im thinking about buying doom 2016 is it worth the money?

[sonic niche]

yes

[craggy apex]

k

[flint dune]

Definitely.

Fantastic campaign, decent Multiplayer (though it’s mostly dead now) and a pretty fun community map maker.

[crystal crest]

hello friends, i am trying to beat ultra nightmare, i will start the stream soon on my twich channel (keyboardless_tf2), if you are interested, please drop, all advice is welcome

[elder meadow]

idk if it's best but plasma rifle base fire destroys the shield just like in eternal, just takes a loooot longer than in eternal

[elder meadow]

oh that's the reason, cool. I thought it was the Vulkan renderer just being a lil buggy in 2016

although I'm p sure I didn't skip the elite guard...

[elder meadow]

Does anyone also like the more environmental based glory kills in 2016 (like if you glory kill an enemy facing a wall or floor you get a different glory kill

[flint dune]

Yeah they’re neat. Adds another level of interactivity and immersion to the game’s environments. The animations can be a bit janky at times though.

[snow heron]

Yeah, feel like the quality of the Glory Kills in 2016 where overall higher then Eternal

[elder meadow]

yo