#doom-2016
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Other than that, it uses more ammo for vastly inferior damage
Hell Knights have 2000 health
Unmodded roclets do 480 damage, impact and splash included
Lock-On, which shoots three rockets, do 400 damage**
In comparison, Remote Detonation can kill it in 2 rockets if you have Jagged Shrapnel and Improved Warhead
1 if you have the mastery
damn
So 15 rockets vs 2 or 1 from mastered RD is pretty huge
Siege Mode great for damage, but I prefer to stay mobile and smooth with my combos unless I used DKSMS, which is something I'll probably never ever do
someone shared this with me, and the strat for moving and avoiding attacks really helped me : https://youtu.be/V2rowEtEGkU
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Remote Det is definitely for more advanced/experienced play which is why I recommend Lock-On due to how accessible it is for new players.
Stun is good
Honestly I don't over think like this. Just run around the arena like I own it and react to what situation I have to deal with
if you don't need the shoe, then you don't need to wear it
Wise words
I would argue though.. going into a series like doom and thinking one type of movement will make you a great player will set you up for failure. In my personal experience doom has strategy but instinct is equally important
@halcyon bear Dude asked for help with a boss and we gave him help. This isn't philosophy, it's "how do I kill cyberdemon" and we're trying to give answers that are better then "get gud"
Sure. But the boss projects it's attacks. You have the weapons and at that point you know how to use them. Other then dont go in the bright circles where you get hit in alot of games in general... it's practice and trial and error. Learn the pattern adjust your personal movement overcome the issue bothering you. I don't think there is a magical way to be good at doom but some tips to plant your feet are good
lock on burst doesnt even do 100 damage with each rocket
i think it does like 30 percent
so remote detonation is superior in 2016
Ayy i beat the cyberdemon :D
Damnnn that really epic 🥶 did you rip and tear the cyberdemon afterwards?
Lock-On, which shoots three rockets, do 400 damage
although that does include splash damage though
No, 70% damage for each rocket
Never understood that, I always wished it did normal damage

yes
anyone down to help me with performance issues?
What's wrong?
Doom (2016) running at 15-70 fps with massive stuttering, both visually and audibly. Have updated drivers, verified files in steam, disabled razer chroma, tried both vulkan and open gl at various settings. Even the menu is lagging a ton. I am trying to run the game at 1440p but it does this no matter the video settings. I have a r5 3600 and rx 5700 xt and doom eternal ran like a dream. as does like every other game. im at a bit of a loss
oh also horrible screen tearing
its like im trying to play on a hand me down all in one from 1995
after playing doom eternal, I tried beating the entirety of doom 2016 on nightmare and it was harder than I expected.
Try lower res
Also, DE runs good because it doesn't load the entire level's geometry at once
It loads 1 arena at a time
Vulkan is def the way to go for FPS
You could probably disable shadows, they don't do much tbh
@untold stirrup switching res didn’t help. It’s definitely not just the normal performance. It was causing all types of problems, like force locking res and fps cap among other things too. Benchmarks for my system are above 150 fps on 1440p ultra and i couldn’t get 60
I just uninstalled and reinstalled hopefully it helps
It's prolly a game issue then yeah, reinstalling helps
Bc I'm able to get stable 60+ FPS on a macbook of all things
@untold stirrup I’m thinking so, I went over and ran apex legends and was hitting a consistent 144 fps (which is more demanding)
Even while recording which should make it take a hit in fps but it doesn't
Thanks for the help regardless!
is that each, or all the rockets together?
Also, for getting demons into stun, how many times do you have to hit them, if there is a set amount of times to get them to enter glory kill status, and can they get put into glory kill status by other enemies?
Basically i'd just appreciate a more in depth explanation of stagger mechanics in general..
it's for all rockets together
How many times you hit them honestly depends on what weapon you're using and the health of the enemy
iirc the super shotgun can deal up to 960 damage if you land all the pellets
I don't think other demons can really get each other into a glory kill state, but I'm not totally sure
the glory kill stagger is achieved when you hit a value below zero, pretty sure
the demon gets gibbed if you go way beyond "just below zero" in terms of damage value
at least, I'm pretty sure that's how it works
Surely there is a certain cut off point where they become staggered no?
Since the vale changes based on demon health, do you know approximately the percentage of health the game normally considers 'ok you're staggered now' assuming you've been attacking the demon pretty constantly
Most definitely because they can get gibbed without going into GK state if enough damage is applied
And I think the game probably has to take all the damage values for each demon and record them, but I'm just talking possibility here
I know most of my technical stuff not from diving into the game code but from watching too many videos with bug exploits, AI behavior examination, etc.
I had an issue similar I think and the frame rate drop was due to my resolution in game somehow being changed. What’s your current resolution in game?
😟
Gibbed?
Blow up into pieces
Ah
Holla
Hola
Necesito ayuda,en el nivel del complejo de investigacion avanzada tengo un problema
Veran,me pase el nivel sin los secretos,y lo volvi a jugar ok? Bien,uno de los desafios era interactuar con las 2 tablillas runicas
Y cuando lo hago,me sale lo de q tengo q salir de la mision
Y no me cuenta el desafio
Ayudenme porfavor

Whar?
Speak english?
Im not
Ground Into Bits
sos la aimepetres
I have tried using both 1080p and 1440p res in game. I have a 1440p monitor
This too
How can i fast get max rank on multiplayer
I try to do 100 achivment and I must get cyberdemon armor
It's much grind
Yeah boi!!
sad that i literally cant play this game on a solid pc after hours of trying to configure
one day this game will be ported to cellphones
no one plays 2016 multiplayer on pc anymore 😢
4 player split screen would be fun or a good old Lan party
I'm surprise people still play 2016
No they still do. I was in a team deathmatch the other day.
I hope he doesnt mean single player or that might be the dumbest thing I heard today
No I mean multiplayer.
lucky

Why is it so hard to adjust to playing on an easier difficulty (hmp) after nearly completing the entire game on UN
because everything feels like a baby lol
Honestly cause the gameplay loop feels slower and less tense. Not as panicked as you normally would be when playing UN.
They should add a golden praetor suit for eternal as a reward for beating UN in doom 2016
Some sort of reward like that would be awesome
but i really want them to add a "safety nest" just like eternal
when a killing blow leaves you with like 5 hp
amen
Doom 3 was a beast of a game back in the day, but now it can run in phones just fine, I’m sure the same thing can happen to 2016 in the next 5 to 10 years.
But I guess it’s already possible now if you consider game streaming services such as xCloud, that you can play anywhere on every supported device, phones included.
Damn right
same
I finished doom eternal a week ago i think
in the first mission, all i did was punch every possessed demon 2 times to stagger them
and then i proceeded to glory kill them afterwards
Do people still play multiplayer on ps4 lmao
The "reach level 5 on multiplayer" seems a bit impossible to me.
I've been scowering from region to region and nothing.
Sometimes. If you get lucky honestly
Just keep trying at random hours. You might stumble on to a party
What are the best hours most parties are online
I like 
I finished doom 2016 three weeks ago, and doom eternal one week ago. Both 10/10 in my book
ok
How do I avoid the cyberdemons dumbass blazer attack
move to the other side at the last second
I did not understand for a long time until I looked how
hello i am your
Wait until sound cue for firing laser
Move to the side
Or you can gauss boost out of the way
Quitting the game is anoyher option
Before he fires shoot your gauss to the side
Jump then fire*
The force pushes you far enough away
Anyone here?
ye
Always
Finally beat doom 2016 today
Well done 
👏 nice
im trying to get the steam 100% and multiplayer is so hard to find. And you need to much exp for cybernetic armor or whatever the hell it's called
E
w+
I agree! It gets really hard when 100% "old" multiplayer games as there is only a few people who play multiplayer.
mhm
Doom 2016 doesnt have the hook of super shotgun right?
Nope
sad
What can i do if my game files are corrupted
The multiplayer is fun, but gets old quick
If u feel like a asshole remember that there was a game dev who made a arch vile
And there was another who decided to put a few in an already deadly maze
The slayer wasn't Spiderman back then
He had the meat hook a long time before doom 2016
It was hidden from him
Canonically yes, he engineered that while in Argent D'Nur
Which reminds, interestingly, it seems like the Argenta gladiators started manufacturing and learnt using the shotgun after his arrival
at least the design is cool
Doom 2016.
Good game.
Literally freeform jazz type of gameplay.
strand type game?
don't those require social interaction within the world?
which is entirely true in a way 'cause the social interaction is pure hatred and I HATE THE DEMONS.
Tbh in eternal theyre sick in classic thry make me smash my whole setup
someone forgot about gex 2
gex enter the gecko was a gex type game though
Idk
Also hell guards feel like a fucking skylanders boss
Anyone wanna play deathmatch with me?
I have to ask bc there is litterally no one online
Bruh
skylanders 
Yo, what snapmaps should i try
Hi, how can fix the bug of the trophy THE CIRCLE IF COMPLETE, in PS4?
Someone can help me please?
Start a new file. Usually happens if you use the same one. I just redid all of them
If I remember right you just need to do the trial that didn't unlock it. There could be a easier way but that's what I did
@halcyon bear ok i would try, thanks very much
No worries
ok i got doom eternal now, cya suckaa--...
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Imagine not being able to play another doom game just because a new shiny ones out lol
Fucking sad
no point in using a bike when you've got a motorcycle amirite fellas?
Nah
All the doom games have something to offer
well i just refunded doom cause i was missing 10 dollars for eternal so...
That's fair.
Good god I love this games main menu theme. Never before have I sat in the menu of a game just listening to the music for 5+ minutes until doom 2016 came along
im sad,i have a big problem,my dpad down key (i play on ps4) doesnt work so i cant make a functional map
Eternals menu music sounds like something out of the x-files. It doesn't really fit doom but then again there's not a lot about eternal that does fit doom to me
Doom Eternal feels a lot more akin to Doom 2.
Doom 2016 feels like a mix of the classics and Doom 3.
Imo.
Both are great in their own right.
Great way to put it honestly.
Ill friend you later a bit late of a response tho
ID is recreating the main installments in rebooting the franchise, everything they do is meant to be old-school fan tribute. I'm 60% sure the next game would be revamped Doom 64 with hellified Khan Makyr as the mother demon.
Working on the multiplayer achievements is probably the worst idea I’ve ever had
@winter vortex someone agrees with u
I just had a max level dude insult the hell out of me like people are still taking this game that serious
Do people still play multiplayer in this game..? I try to get into one but im never able to find one
depends on the time of day
at least on NA servers
normally you can fill one team play lobby during peak hours
Its just that the achievements arent even hard
Just takes a while of farming
Incredibly boring
Multiplayer trophies in general aren't the best
I’m just turning on a podcast and enduring having to level up so much
I managed to get them a while back thankfully
Imagine doing the train room at the end of Vega Core pistol-only, no upgrades, and no hiding
On Nightmare
That would be a power move 😂
I think going pistol-only gets you good at not taking damage. The pistol doesn't have much DPS, so you have to stay in the arena with lots of enemies for much longer than normal.
The magical part of Doom 2016's combat is that if you move/dodge well enough, you can generally stay in an arena with lots of enemies indefinitely without taking damage.
From what I've heard pistol only is just not fun. Nevermind difficulty
Yeah, I can definitely see where it would be boring
need some help guys
does anyone know the name of the combat theme in argent d'nur?
i've tried looking for it but i can't find it
I think it's Damnation but I'm not sure
Ah
Loading screen: If it has a head, it's a weak spot!
Pinkies: am i joke to you
Technically yes. They didn't even bother to name it in hell
The nameless
What's up y'all
Im good
That's good
TBH Doom 2016 is probably gonna be one of my easier platinums on Playstation
As long as you play the game normally you should earn a good amount of trophies as is
All the other trophies for stuff like the collectibles or weapon upgrades and stuff like that really aren't difficult, if anything it's really fun
Not only is it a really fun shoot em up as is, it's also has really fun secrets to find
Who the hell is the artist of this masterpiece
Oh, the name's in the image...
"reach level 5 on multiplayer" trophy is impossible.
fr
I do plan on getting DOOM 2016 and Eternal on PC since I already have all the other games on PC and PS4
Epic 🔥
I just finished Doom 2016, going back and getting the rest of the trophies
I'm getting Doom Eternal for my birthday coming up however
I just play the older Doom titles on an emulator at school on the computers when I'm finished with my work
@naive lintel This video might help you out
https://youtu.be/Pnw4sCPBgoU
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Thanks
yo is anyone up for multiplayer
ive tried before but the servers are kinda dead loll
I didn't even know there was a Doom 2016 game!
There's a first halo game too
Thanks man thats gonna help me a lot
so glory kills right now isn't working?
i don't know why
Gonna try to hit new game and see what happens if it’ll let me do it before I go back to my other save file
God I’m almost done with multiplayer
How bad are the multiplayer trophies?
They’re not difficult. The problem is that it’s hard to find a match and most of the players you do get matched with, are likely veterans of the game.
I basically got my trophies and bounced. I'm not a big fan of online shooter play
You’re forgetting the rampant cheating and hacks

Even though it has no support from the devs, even though it’s full of cheaters and a bunch of people I know because we’re the last ones to play it, the Doom 2016 multiplayer is so much fun, it’s not the main attraction for sure, but it is a good multiplayer
Okay, there was NO FUCKING reason for you to insult me like that. I was just behind on gaming news and updates because I've been on hiatus for a while,.
Why do you have to be an asshole?
I was on hiatus. That's NOT A REASON, you jerk.
I didn't even know there was a Doom 2016 game.
Wow... seriously? You both wanna be fucking assholes?
Yeah, I just learned about it recently and was very excited about it. And I'm NOT dumb. Seriously.
I just was away and busy with other things.
So fuck you both.
I don't tolerate assholes being jerks.
Sorry, got you both blocked so not seeing any messages. Ah, much healthier. Boundaries.
Can't see anything. Ha ha.
Your gaslighting is not gonna work. Keep trying. I'm not gonna see any of your blocked messages. Losers.
Yeah, I'm excited about it.
I was just on hiatus for a while is all, so thanks for taking care of that shit.
Eternal is a bit too different at times it feels
Definitely getting that soon.
It eventually wore on me but I was proceeding through classic with pistol starts. Of course now Elden Ring is about to release.
Oh, yeah, I just heard about Elden Ring.
Got it preordered.
Last time I played 2016 I finally did Nightmare. Never assume which weapon mod is better-everyone tends to to for Lock On on the rocket launcher but Remote Det is superior
Thanks for the tip. I'll keep that in mind.
Lock On costs you three rockets for what you could solve with better aim. Remote Det gets shrapnel that does damage over time, a bigger explosion, ad the mastery lets you get two explosions or one big one, for ONE rocket
Similarly Rotator sounds worse than Mobile Turret but the reality is the mastery does more damage for less bullets which mobile turret eats through
On the other hand Siege Mode is simply better than Precision Bolt. Fully upgraded it serves the role of the classic BFG since the new one is a superweapon
Got it. Cool beans. Will check into all that.
Playing on Nightmare, which 2016 will lock you into when you choose it (Eternal doesnt) had me learn which mods made enemies more dead for less ammo
I still remember Eternal on release day when they had not yet explained the combat loop the game was supposed to have
There wasnt much the popups were actually telling you
Hell back on release the ||Archvile||didnt even have a popup when it first showed up. Very confusing fight.
It took longer than it should have to realize a change from 2016 was the chainsaw was no longer semi optional and there was a reason it regenerated one unit
Instead people complained about low ammo caps
Don't sweat it. I'd just do me
Agreed. I'm done with that now, so had them blocked.
In fact, I don't even see their messages anymore.
Yeah, I'm curious about that.
;)
Siege mode is where it's at
You also cant kill Super Heavies with it anymore, though what those are has changed a little. You can still get up to three units to kill heavies, but it doesnt give more ammo or anything
The loop of Eternal has changed all the cool things you coulddo in 2016 to being necessary. You need to glory kill to heal, you need to chainsaw for ammo, and when you get the shoulder mounted flamethrower, you need to burn things to get armor
It also made your melee pathetically weak but added an early upgrade you can build up through glory killing called Blood Punch which unleashes a shockwave
But then, in some ways I wouldn't say it was the sequel I expected. It's not exactly 2016 2
You could say it's a modern version of what changed between Doom and Doom 2 but there were more actual changes to the game than those had
Ah, interesting.
Well, definitely changed a lot for sure.
For example Cyber Mancubi which you encounter in 2016 arent super heavies anymore but now have a weakness to blood punch that lets you punch all their armor off, not that getting close is safe
That's a little bit to much eternal talk moloch
Yes I know not in the Eternal channel
Obviously not, because ya know, if you were to go in and punch someone, it's like... boom. You're running the risk of death.
But she really should know and not have the completely blind experience that made me almost not like it
Yeah, let's keep it to 2016 anyway. But the eternal stuff, let me know.
In the enteral channel. Thanks.
More because they dont set their toxic bile on fire and it instead leaves nasty acid goo everywhere and they're willing to do it point blank
It best to unplug your muscle memory and go into it like it is its own doom game. Just like going back and playing any other doom game. I don't go into doom 2 with 2016 expectations and so on
That's CRAZY!
Yeah, I always went into Doom 1, 2, etc. with no expectations, but the Doom 3 definitely got me frustrated because there was no subtitles.
You cant go into 2 with Doom 1 expectations either it wants you dead early
This is true
Even if you enter nightmare mode. That's gonna be hardcore.
Be ready for anything. I hadn't played Doom since Doom 3, so getting back into everything all over again was good.
If you haven't Resurrection of Evil is 3s expansion and I'd say it was better than base
I'm confused by it not having any CC
@elder meadow apologies for the unnecessary comments the other users directed towards you
Thank you. I do appreciate it.
Me too. I was getting it through Game Pass, and I was just confused, so Doom 3 was just... whaaaa?? But if I just purchased the actual full game, it'd have CCs for sure?
Er no
Neither official doom 3 has CC
Might be a mod out there but that assumes you have pc
I did read about the mod, so I'm checking to test it out soon. Fingers crossed.
I never have modded any game before
Hopefully it works
So if this works, I'll play it with captions finally.
But the previous games, I don't need CCs, because I had too much fun just running around and shooting all sorts of demons and monsters LOL
XD
Cool beans. Thanks again, Bob.
Np

Does anybody know how the difficulty is measured in this game?
Uv is hard. Nightmare is very hard mode
I meant what's the difference in the difficulty
Enemy damage, reaction speed, how well they can track your path,
And when you get much higher, health and ammo drops count for much less
Thanks

hey question if a doom tournament was held for xbox with a 1000.00 usd prize who be intrested just trying to get an idea
not doom 2016 lol
Doom 2016 multi-player was ass
I just don't like the movement in that game
The movement in eternal was amazing
Guys I have a problem run with a map on snapmap(DOOM 2016) error says: an error occured while connecting to DOOM services.
How so
I just started playing this game, and came here from doom 1993 and it is so much better lol, i was just wondering what the best weapon mods/upgrades are?

How is it so much better
So many different mechanics and the games are so different, thus they should not be compared
They literally have a 23 year gap apart for fuck's sake
If you want a modern feel for classic doom just download GZDoom and turn on freelook and jumping

Best mods:
Shotgun: Explosive Shot
HAR: Micro Missiles(Tac Scope for advanced users)
Plasma Rifle: Stun Bomb(Heat Blast is more for advamced users)
Rocket Launcher: Lock On Burst(Remote Detonation is harder to use fot beginners)
Gauss Cannon: Either is good, but I'd recommend Siege Mode for beginners
Chaingun: Mobile Turret, no exceptions, Gatling Rotator is absolute trash and should be excluded from choices
A bit defensive are we?
Gatling Rotator is better
Lock On Burst bad
LoB is good for 5 burst rocket combos, and gatling rotator objectively sucks
All it does is simply rotate the barrel and nothing more
It doesn't do anything to fix the chaingun's base accuracy and precision(which is super poor)
With upgrades it's better, but Mobile Turret is superior in every way
It triples the firing rate for a higher DPS and both massively increases the accuracy and precision of the chaingun
Mods or 2016 being better than classic doom?
Probably the latter
But in all seriousness comparing the old and new games is like comparing apples and oranges, whicb was why I was so angry
He wasn’t even comparing them and you just kinda went off
Preference =/= comparison
It's both, he's stating that he likes 2016 more than classic which is essentially a comparison
Preference would be "oh I kinda like 2016 more than classic" not really "2016 is better than classic"
I probably sounded too defensive there though so I apologize for that
The key word here is probably "better" and how it was used
Rotator makes each shot do more damage
Lock On Burst doesnt do anything remote detonate cant
Even Summoners cant take shrapnel
It still has poor accuracy and precision, and sure damage boost is good but tripling firerate still does that
Remote detonation uses some skill to use so I don't recommend to beginners
It's superior for damage and practicality, but LoB is easier to use
Mobile turret has just never given me what I wanted while rotator does good enough with less hassle
I'll do test runs later with mastered chaingun mods
Also the shiny blue sparks it makes
After you get the mastery
It also gets the same Uranium Coating
So its able to pierce targets the same while doing more damage per individual bullet
I don't remember it slowing you down either but its been a while
I would say that 3 bullets fired per 1 from gatling would even it out, but until I do test runs that theory remains a mystery
I think the stagger from turret makes it a bit better because of the follow through combo. If you wanted to go that route
More importantly
I actually haven't tested turret then seige yet actually. Going to give it a few tries when I get home
There isn't an actual reason to use the chaingun anyway
Mobile Turret cant compete with Remote Detonation or Siege Mode
Basically just for fun factor which I mentioned way back
But even scope is more valuable
And the Gatling Rotator was more fun
And fun in my opinion
Spinny and shiny
Mobile Turret is more or less wasting scope and micro missile ammo
Rotator can do controlled bursts
Devastator sound and smoke trails
Controlled bursts of high damage piercing shots no less
I like how turret opens up and just sprays hate. So damn satisfying
I dunno, I just stopped being impressed by it
Anything you could have used it on you already had other things to use on them
It's more of a personal thing. Can't really dictate what others find satisfying. Just opening up and making a demon Swiss Cheese feels amazing to me
Rotator also I am pretty sure doesnt slow you down, but I cannot remember
It definitely felt like more of a help when I was playing on Nightmare
I did quick tests in EOA as of so far, but I'll soon have to open up the actual game and test both mods out as EOA isn't 100% faithful
That just comes down to neither actually being better than the other
Well turret is more accurate also. Personally I find rotator boring and it doesn't do anything over special to make me want to use it
Which still means Rotator isn't bad
That just describes the entire weapon
In tests, they both managed to GK a Baron in about the same amount of bullets (around 176-173) however this is in EOA which still probably has small differences from the real game
No because I said I use it for fun
So I wouldn't use rotator if it doesn't add even that
Let alone any drastic performance
Eternal doesnt even have it and no one believes in Mobile Turret in it
I mean yeah cuz shield bash too op :p
Then they ruined remote detonation
MetaDoom was only going to pick one mod from each weapon
Because it also has heat blast instead of stun bomb
I need to figure out the commands for keeping enemies still or spawning them in with the restored 2016 console if they have commands like that so tests can be accurate
Testing it out ?
Heat blast works great in later game nightmare like a dream
I thought it was supposed to be worse than stun bomb
I find it pretty useful especially in large fights where you can get the charge really fast
I'm gonna test out turret vs rotator for damage and practicality in battle if I have time
And yeah Heat Blast is pretty good if used right
At medium range in the cyberdemon fight it actually did a pretty decent amount of damage, so it have decent range and pretty good damage
I don't know I still think turret will take the win but let me know
I see, thanks for the info
Being able to look around on more than one axis for started
Cba with trying to finagle mods onto xbox
Free look with auto aim isn't the best though
Doom 2016 no free look challenge
He's talking about classic doom
And that isn't worse for not having freelook
He likes the movement of 2016
Which you dont even remotely need to play it
No? I was just stating how different and improved doom 2016 is over doom 1993, a simple observation of improving technology, nothing more
That's pretty funny since alot of 2016 is based off of classic. Movement speed lack of cover. Engagement speed.
And 2016 still feels like it's the one missing something that classic had
Yeah ive noticed a lot of its similar, but glory kills werent in doom 1993…
Alot of doom 3 in its DNA too
And that is?
Interesting
For me I transition super fast from classic to 2016.
I don't feel anything off really
Atmospheric music? The music in 2016 (what i have heard if it so far) has been awesome, but hasnt really enhanced the atmosphere like some of the tracks in classic doom
Honestly i feel like 2016 fits in with the classic doom feel more than eternal does
In comparison to classic eternal feels like its own thing to me
All the midis in doom 93 are based off of heavy metal
But I know what you mean
Ik, but some are spooky, and make the levels spooky
All?
There was one in e2 that was a good example of this, but i cant remember which one exactly
Definitely agree but only because of the added mechanics. But after you get those down it's like a glove. This is all my opinion though. I know alot of people struggle with muscle memory when it comes to eternal and then playing other doom games
Whats the best weapon across all doom games? Besides the bfg
You know what I'm trying to say. Semantics
I think it depends on which doom game you're playing and what encounter you're in
Because the best weapon in one encounter can absolutely screw you over in another
Personally I can play classic then 2016 and then eternal and it still is DOOM. Sure they are different games but the core is in them and I can get in the groove relatively quickly
Yeah I will
doom eternal the first doom game to say “hey play like this or die”
every other doom you can kinda just vibe your way to the end
This is probably the most bs statement I've heard since my parents tried to tell me the easter bunny is real
Eternal is probably the easiest doom game just above doom 3 on veteran
idk, i struggle with doom 2 but eternal is ez
also, ur saying on vet, isnt that one of the hardest modes?
Nightmare I'd say is hard veteran isn't that big of a difference from marine
ok
Since everyone in my family is now sleeping, I can now conduct tests 
I'll do 10 kills on a Hell Knight with Mobile Turret(To Glory Kill state), average the bullets used, then do the same with Gatling Rotator
Hm, so for Gatling Rotator, the average seems to be about 20 rounds to GK a Hell Knight
Mobile Turret surprisingly shows nearly same results
This test isn't concrete and done sort of rushed so all data collected may not be 100% correct, but I would say these two mods are pretty much comparable and optimal
i didn’t say it wasn’t easy, i said it has a specific play style that it wants the player to master in order to progress efficiently
resource management, combos, specific weapons for specific body parts of priority demons
reaction based demons
eternal certainly isn’t the easiest doom for me because it’s the only one i had to actually pay attention to & master a specific play style for
i don’t play 2016, 1993, or doom 3 anything like i do eternal
and the ancient gods part 1 was the most challenging bit of doom content i’ve ever encountered
2016s nightmare is alot harder and less forgiving. As for classic doom play something like sunder and you'll change your mind pretty fast
I can probably name 20 wads that are harder just off the top of my head.
okay so i’m replaying doom 2016 rn for the first time in a minute
and i’ve noticed that it’s a lot more rigid than eternal
and it’s design is a lot less considered, which is to be expected
but i’m shocked at how many times i have to hunt for samey looking enemies in a background in which they all blend into
i never ever had to do that with eternal, probably because the enemies hunted you down
Not sure how far you are but the demons definitely attack you pretty hard in this game also. As for the look yeah it's more gritty. The cartoon aspect of eternal does help with gameplay though which is why they decided to change it
And honestly not one demon in 2016 looks the same. I have no idea where that is coming from
2016 is way too easy
Play un then champ
Uv is definitely pretty easy. But anyone saying nightmare or un is easy is just full of shit
Unless you've already played this game 50 times on UN or you're ByteMe
true
I've played of ton of nightmare and I still have to be sweaty
Nightmare in this one locks you into it I noticed and Eternal doesnt
Probably one of the reasons the text was red
I have a technical issue that's been preventing me from playing for months:
My game (on steam) crashes whenever I it up, before the main menu.
It crashes on "LOading Title Storage" with the Wifi on, and then if the Wifi's off, it crashes on "Profile".
I've tried reinstalling it multiple times and even updated my PC and nothing's working :C
Anybody got any tips for the final boss?
Kill it
Better advice use bfg
||wtf why did robot man become a dick at the end? And why did he get the cool sword, he didnt deserve it. Do we get to kill him in eternal?||
||We almost do, but that's after eternal going into the DLC||
||And well he got the sword because he forcefilly took it from you so yeah ||
K
oh
muh argent energy, bottom text 🗿
💀
sam hayden is still one of my favorite game characters though
mhm
lmao i have a friend that hates the marauder even though he's playing on switch and in i'm too young to die difficulty
he's considering it as a boss...
Is it still possible to publish snapmaps on the PS4?
Yeah I believe so
I think the issue is he’s playing on the damn switch. No hate against switch players but there are quite some hinderances to it
Ye
tore through cyberdemon on ultra-violence
i'm having more trouble with pinky's than the first boss lol
Yeah I'd definitely just restart on nightmare
Not that the fight is any harder
Just find it more enjoyable overall
I'm no god teir player, but Marauders on Ultra-Violence is pretty easy. And I play on switch
Its really about practice not what you're playing on
I'm definitely still not as proficient in quick-swapping as I'd like though
Looking back let me re-say my original statement
I think that dudes friend is just bad at doom
needs more practice ya know?
Yeah, probably. Though, I learned the game through taskmaster like tactics. I watched people and learned from them
Corrupted by the crucibles power
.”I am not the villain in this story. I do what I do because there is no choice.”
- Dr. Samuel Hayden
I must admit, I’m still struggling to beat 2016 on Ultra-Nightmare, BUT it’s still a hell of a rush and good time!
Keep at it. You got this
Shoot untill he-s dead
She
im on the destroyed argent facility mission on ultra nightmare. does it get harder later? its sort of boring so far
oh definitely
okay cool! thanks. i guess its still earlyish in the game then?
VEGA Core Processing last arena is going to be your biggest halt in your journey if you even reach that arena
it's easily the hardest in the entire game
argent facility if I remember correctly is... mission 7?
yeah 7 seems about right. its jsut after the first time you go to hell
as long as you have a good handle on what exactly you're doing UN is no different from NM, but obviously with the exception of having only 1 life
it's just the stress of knowing you only have 1 life during a sticky situation that might trip you up
oh is that like 1 life for the entire game?
that sounds like the right level of hard lol. maybe 1 per mission or 1 per game
yeah ultra nightmare, you die once your entire save is deleted
and I'm pretty sure you can see the deaths of other people in UN runs
if you fuck up platforming, better kiss that save goodbye as it counts as instant death
ahh sounds sort of fun lol. thats definitely a challenge for sure. ive died plenty of times
ill give it atry after this run i guess. dont have it unlocked yet
oh so you're only playing nightmare, not ultra nightmare
had me confused for a sec
its listed as ultra violence. the 3rd/hardest one that you can play on the first play through atleast
anyways i gotcha
I struggled on hurt me plenty 😂
i struggled on im too young to die
Yikes
i play on a toaster
yea ime playing through again trying to actuly complete it
As someone who liked Doom 2016 on Switch, do you think I'll like Doom Eternal on Switch... what should i consider before buying?
Eternal refined movement and gunplay. Alot of people have issue going back to 2016 after Eternal. If you have muscle memory issues you'll be one of those people
Nightmare is the best mode
It's only unfair in early game
I tend to play HMP since I'm new to the game. Didn't wanna go all the way easy tho
should i swap to a harder difficulty? (im on hurt me plenty)
ok
They are rage, brutal, without mercy. But you, you will be worse. Rip and tear until it is done.
ah yes, the best part of Doom: dying to some BS
been stuck in resource operations but these shields idiots keep killing me. where's their manners?
Git gud
Hey, I'm new to this game. It'll get easier with more experience.
Use explosive shot when you can. Heat blast plasma
Close the distance
I don't have heat blast plasma yet
I just finished level 2, and I gotta take care of the foundry.
Sorry should have a comma there
Plasma
Concentrate plasma fire on the shield
the beginner gun?
I agree with you
Just beat it to unlock UN
tried UN got only to the third lvl
I don't have that yet
it's available as a secret in level 2, resource operations
grenades can help out a ton if you get it past their shields, and splash damage from firing the grenade a little past or next to them can help too
whenever I play doom on my switch, I always use my pro controller. just feels less weird in my hands, and more natural
Really? I feel like the switch as it is feels fine...
I love the 2016 plasma rifle
Yup
D-Pad is awful
i like the pro controller because of my chonky hands
It is, good thing I use the joysticks
guys what happen to the snapmaps?
snapmaps died bro
i mean im makin a map series on snapmap but its dead
So online service died?
yeah can't do shit anymore
i wanted to make a singleplayer campaign but im using basic template now
Cool
the single campaign was apart of the service so that dream died out fast
unless eternal gets a snapmap which won't happen im stuck on 2016
?
?
Gl with that
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A simple look at the various iterations of E1M1 track At Doom's Gate as well as the first tracks featured in PSX/Saturn Doom and Doom 64
is the video for the alternate version an actual trailer for doom 2016? or was it just something that the guy made for this video
is the multiplayer cross platform? if not anyone up to mby play it on switch?
Its not cross platform
aah that kinda sucks ig but ye
My ps plus ran out so I'm stuck with the campaign for a while (I'm fine with that anyways punching in demons heads)
How were you finding games anyways
Ay if anyone is on Xbox and wants to play multiplayer get on
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This was a mix Mick Gordon made before the prompt for the music changed to have guitars, back when they relied on synths. It was in the Quakecon 2014 prototype gameplay as the music for Foundry.
Also as a side note, the Praetor Suit was a navy blue instead of the deep dark green in the final product
no, i didnt mean the music itself. I meant the visuals that are in this particular video. is that an official trailer or is that just something that this guy made for this specific video
Oh. looks like it's from a trailer. Or some form of promotion
The trailer is the released trailer, and sadly the alternate version was never used in-game. Such a shame too, I prefer it over the main version we got
I kinda wished we had that as the main theme instead of Hellwalker, imagine being in 2016, booting up DOOM, and hearing that
can you link this trailer? i cant find it?
Sure.
DOOM is back! With a brutal single-player campaign, iconic fast-paced multiplayer, and the ability to create and play your own levels with SnapMap, DOOM delivers all the guns, demons and action you’ve been craving. It’s time to Fight Like Hell.
Watch the launch trailer now to prepare for the release of DOOM on Friday, May 13, for Xbox One, Play...
Turns out a different version of E1M1 was used, hm...
hi
also this is a different video
the one in the video i posted i dont think is an official trailer
its really cool though, the way that the music syncs with doomguy punching the imp in the face
Yeah I didm't watch the video, the guy who did it probably just put that section together for fun
yeah
Argent D'Nur
Been here tens of times
Proceed to die like 20 times at least on all arenas
Kill the spooder on your first try
nice
how do i complete rune challenge 6? i dont understand how to kill those demons so i could finish this challenge
HAIL
Deathmatch is supremacy. I am personally not compelled with battle-mode because I do not have faith in the competitive aspects.
Well battlemode is going strong and this mode died pretty quickly so there's that
YES FINALLY
Giga chads meet up
Are the servers dead for doom 2016?
I can't seem to connect to snapmaps, I really wanna play the original levels remade
Yes and no
Battlemode is a lot worse than 2016's multiplayer but luckily i've started enjoying battlemode now with 2.0
I mean you think it's worse but 99 .99 percent don't
Which is my point
There's no spicy doom 2016 multiplayer discord
And the reason every day someone asks if this mode is dead
Which it is
I've seen a lot of people say they prefer 2016 mp over battlemode
I've seen more saying they can't find a match
That's a playerbase problem
Which would mean people don't like it
Tell me why you think Battlemode is better
Lol
I feel like I'd have a better chance of teaching my 3 year old neice piano than teaching you logistics

Basically if a game or game type last longer than another game or game type it means more people like it
Weird right
Alotta people would have preferred deathmatch PvP like in 2016
Never Said it was bad. Just that in 2016 after I bought the game the multiplayer matches were already getting bad a year later. Battle mode does not have that issue. Which means more people like it. A counter argument to me though might be that 2016 sold less copies ;)
Battlemode got 2.0
Whatever atleast i got a mode to enjoy because Halo Infinite is a shitty dumpsterfire
Actually?
❔
He's wondering is Halo Infinite is actually terrible
The campaign is great but the multiplayer is awful
So much content missing
Ah I see
The rune trials fucking suck
- I fucking suck at the rune trials
They're annoying sometimes but they're doable
Where my awesome doomers at?
dead
Suureee
mars
Lol
Yo I'm looking to get some people to play the DOOM 2016 Multiplayer
Is there anyone online at a given time or server? Is there a community run event weekly?
On my end its pretty dead unfortunately
Hey is it normal that i cant use snapmap?
Obv not, it works fine last time I checked
The thing says "there was an error connecting to doom online servives. Please try again"
Let me verify rn
So?
Fuck it doesn't work for me
Same message as you
I got into a couple of MP matches, I just waited to find players and we stuck together for a few rounds
To those that care, the 2016 SP is great so far
Can't wait to finish it to replay it on a higher difficulty 😄
What happened with the servers exactly?
Was quick switching in d2016 intended?
Yes and no
Yes, that some of it was intentional
No, that the developers didn't think we'd reach such high levels of quickswapping in D2016
Game certainly wasn’t balanced around it either.
I think part of a game sometimes is discovering tricks to beat it that the developers didn't necessarily think of, but that aren't really in "glitch" territory
Whats quickswapping already?
Switching weapons fast
yeah, basically
Who wants to do multiplay matches on doom 2016?
i have started a new run in the nightmare difficulty
pootis?!?!?!
What?
can you say pootis
pootis
why is microsoft teams on your playing status
if i were you i'd hide my shame from the world
Probably a TF2 reference due to your PFP
why is microsoft teams a shame
it's microsoft teams
ok
Where are the best places to work on weapon masteries that require multi kills?
Im installing it now super excited
Anyone remember how Possessed Security shields could block Gauss Cannon shots?
Maybe someone is up for mp aachievements grind?
What?
Oh i simply turned on my computer and every time it activates teams
I wish I could get in a deathwatch lobby
not you
im stuck
dont know where to find blue keycard, anyone wanna help me out? i can take photo of whole map
search it on the wiki ig
sorry for the ping i forgot to turn it off
all fine
Anyone else not able to get into snapmap? Keeps saying cant connect to doom online services
Yeah the servers are down
Ah ok, thank you
Me too
Its temporary right?
You can go back to maps after you have finished the level
Or restart the level
apparently snapmaps online features aren't working rn
I'm trying to download some snapmaps to play offline but I keep getting an error message shows whenever I try to download certain maps
Gunna elaborate or nah?
Is the multiplayer still alive? I keep trying to get into a match and it always says searching and unable to find a match
perhaps
nah its easier to just throw stuff like that in a chat and vanish
Am I the only one that thought it was insanely cool they put the “classic doom pose” option in the settings
i did too
but i sadly haven't played doom 2016 due to hardware limitations
i just watched some longplays and a lot of gameplay videos
Are the SnapMap servers back online?
No, I tried an hour ago, hopefully they get back online
I sure they will eventually but it's most likely not a priority
yo
i'm trying to upload a snapmap on PS4 and the servers are down. they've been down since i tried yesterday
Scrolls up oh lol
that's crazy
at least i'm not alone
deez nutz
i come back and buy a month of PS Plus to platinum this game and i can't even get the one snapmap trophy i need lmao
i'm sure the servers will be back up at some point, i just wanted to get this over with
so i could go back to gran turismo 7
I'd probably check back during a weekday some time
did you hear another doom is coming out
I wouldn't doubt it.
Really? 2 years after the last one thats fast
Oh so the snapmap issue is a problem for literally everyone here?
Yes, its just that the servers are down
Huh
How long ago? I've been wanting to download the "heavy Dreams" trilogy for a while
This is why you download snapmaps, everyone
@narrow shadow Okay, so, It's a bit of a tricky jump. I remember doing it on Switch a while back, but I think there's a Slayer Toy around the same area behind the pipe you jump around. You can probably go through that little divot where it hides, however.
If you plan on doing things the hard way, Argent Facility Destroyed has the Air Control Rune. I recommend getting it to Air Control II to help you through that segment.
Dude I already did it
And I got the collectible before
Why can’t I just switch to a different gun and keep the damn bfg
Question am I the only one who is overly addicted into 2016 during my first nightmare run
Fellow Slayers, I’m off to take on Ultra-Nightmare to serve the Gods, yet again.
You got this
I forgot that doom 2016 existed
Considering it's in your pfp and your about me ...that's pretty dumb
are snap maps working for anyone else? I keep getting that dumb "error connecting to doom online" message
Source? I know id Software is making a new game but I don’t recall them confirming it’s a new Doom game
Some maps work, not all, I just tried a couple out
Gotcha, thanks. I'll wait on Bethesda support
It's really just a guessing game on what maps work
Okey... Is it just me or why is Doom 2016 pretty boring in many things? I mean Don't hate me its just my Opinion, I dont hate the game, I think its great but just... Boring and slow...
Pretty sure it's just you
Yeah definitely not slow or boring. Calling the fastest fps for 2016 boring and slow is definitely just not true. Just another played eternal first kid
No one hates you for your opinion. It's just the equivalent of saying oxygen is overrated
People would just think less of what you think
not boring, not slow, probably better than eternal in many ways
Before 2016 games were basically just shoot around this fence move to another fence
you can approach combat how ever you want to in doom 2016, player freedom and choice in regards to how you wanna fight is at the forefront
the music is still yet to be topped as far as the overall soundtrack goes
the demon designs were very dark and less cartoony
doom 2016 in many ways is its own beast whereas eternal feels like a celebration of the doom franchise as a whole with emphasis on the earlier titles i feel
What really sucks for me is that it takes me a long time to find a match in DOOM Multiplayer
you just gave me a wonderful reason to play doom 2016
I didn't mean in the Sense of when the Game came out, I mean in the Present Time it lacks so much that its just in my eyes boring and slow
And in your sense you're wrong
That's like saying I think halo combat evolved is boring or slow or half life 2. Slower yes. But not slow and boring it's just a really silly opinion you have. That I doubt very many people would ever agree with. It's best to just move on and play whatever you enjoy. Whatever the hell that could be
After being sucked through the Hell portal on top of the Argent tower, the Doom Slayer beasts his way through demonic hordes to make his way back to mars. As always, have fun watching peeps.
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sLoW aNd bOring
Yea that would be like Comparing CoD with Animal Crossing, thy are Compleatly diffrent Genres, its you opinion and I respect that, just wantet to ask
The game is almost as fast as chairs
Chairs eternal
I think it only works on maps published with the game as example pieces and maps that you have downloaded, and that's it.
Can we no longer upload snap maps on xbox?
snapmap is down on ps4 too
really a shame. i pop the game in for the first time in years to do snapmap stuff and i can't
😦 why don’t i see literally anyone in lobby?
idk
Is there a group of ppl on pc that play the 2016 doom multiplayer? I really wanna try it but it’s so dead there’s no lobbies at all 😞
There’s a few on eu and NA, Asia pacific is dead
Do you by chance know where I could look for people to play with? I’m NA but after minutes of searching for a lobby nothing happened 😔
doom 2015
You need to wait for the busier times typically
I see, thx for ur help (:
is doom vfr a vr port of 2016 or a different game
New game taking place after the events of 2016
No you're playing more as a robot human so it's slow paced
It’s slower because you would be throwing up your internals otherwise
Pretty sure that's why they made the robot human thing
snapmap still down on ps4
Have you guys tried opening a ticket?
I can't play snapmap on steam too
Snapmap has been down before, submit a support ticket and see if they will look into it
Posting it over and over here in this channel will not help.
Again, open a ticket (https://help.bethesda.net/)
i did that and they just give you a boilerplate response
They give you a bot response lol, submit a ticket and you'll get a response, SURE.....
To add to my response, saying that snapmap is down here in the channel will probably help more because it lets other people know in the community that it's down and they in turn will "submit a ticket" and get a bot response, and HOPE you get a useful response
At least they become AWARE OF THE ISSUE

Are you on PS4 system?
You know those tickets will be forwarded to... idk... HUMANS?
Human sees, human tells other human, human fixes shit, done
Your response will be: A working snapmap mode
Devs will eventually see tickets for stuff like this you just gotta be patient
These so called "HUMANS" you speak of give no response and only give as ive said how many times now half assed responses. Many people have said something about snapmap not working and its been over a week. So your response to me is invalid . Your just butthurt because I called you out on this for saying that tickets don't work and all you get is bot responses, don't get me wrong though it takes time but only sending tickets go so far
A week isn't that long and unfortunately iD is paying more attention to Eternal which is what most of the playerbase is focused on, especially with the mod support that came recently
Oh definitely I agree on that
Still dont know why a "Response" in that case is so important for you. Notify them about the issue and they will eventually fix it.
I had this in the past, wrote a ticket and 2 days later it was fixed for everyone
Yeah it's most likely they don't know or they would make a public statement
they acknowledged the issue in my support ticket
Anyone for multiplayer on PS4?
Switch
Just beat the game and planning to check out multiplayer
How active is it on xbox
Finally got this game to download
Huge ass game
any one wanna play?
What is the best way to improve performance? My computer is 8 years old :kek:
Deadass died before the game intro 💀
quit all other running tasks in task manager i guess
as much as you can
you don't need onedrive sync, google crash manager, or the windows search thingy to run
anyone here play the switch version? looking to do some Deathmatch.
ultra-violent hell guardians are fun
Shits ass
you can add me on ps4. Im always tryna get into some multiplayer matches
Could I talk about doom vfr in here?
@sacred cairn @zealous spindle i have it on PS4, if you guys wanna party up at some point it would make things less of a grind lol
suprisingly, it hasn't been too bad getting into a game. but its always the same people lol
sounds good 2 me 👀
you can add me on psn if you want
and yeah i noticed on PC when i played that a couple years ago there were a lot of regulars
Didnt see the message at the moment
so a few days ago I found out that my PC can now run doom 2016 in 60fps, so I beat the game, unlocked a bunch of classic levels, and best of all...
mastered quick-switching
I managed to get the Saving Throw Rune in my most recent playthrough of Doom 2016. Mastery isn't so hard, all you gotta do is fire a BFG shot intto the arena before the Cyber Demon
And I don't even use that rune in my casual playthroughs, that and Rich get Richer
Can ps5 crossplay with ps4?
i think so?
anyway snapmap is still down
I was hoping to get the multiplayer trophies since snapmap is not an option
Can you get the trophies if you play with invited players?
grrrrrr
Is there anything on the Slayer's Club or the bethesda news site that mentions the Snapmap servers crashing or if iD has decided to drop support?
Yes
Wait, really?
Since when? It could probably explain why I could never use snapmap
yes
Hehehhehehehehehe

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