#doom-2016
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is there any kind of command that allows me to cut through the last mission and make me fight spider master mind agaiN?
Yes, it’s called the level select
Just fully upgrade ssg, siege mode on the gauss cannon, micro missiles, and stun bomb on the plasma gun
g_freezetime 0
and g_freezetime 1
it freezes time and turns you into a spectator, which allows you to clip through the level
just fly through until you get the the spider mastermind hole, then do g_freezetime 1 to unfreeze yourself
do it high in the air though, because if you unfreeze yourself on the ground you'll clip through and die by falling into the void
I've done this before to skip the long ass samuel hayden cutscene in Advanced Research Complex
Just came on the leaderboard for the "Demon Destruction" mini game ;D
Just finished doom it was (redacted) Amazing
You thinking of purchasing eternal?
Began a Nightmare Run, this is hard af, any tips?
Equipment is very important.
i don't have the reflex to use grenades that's so infuriating
Watch enemy movements, anticipate their attacks and dodge them. Situational awareness is also important
Who's doing what, where they're coming from, resources around you, etc
Target Hell Knights, Barons and other pressure units first
and Arch-Viles Summoners ofc
Yes on winter sale
Only Glory Kill if you know it’s absolutely safe to do so. You don’t get IV frames after an animation finishes, making you a perfect target. I can’t tell you how many times I’ve taken massive damage or died after performing one on NM.
K
Unless you have the Savagery rune or Blood Fueled, only GK when necessary
I see
And what runes are good for you guys ? I'm honestly addicted to "Rich Get Richer" and "Air Control"
Savagery, Seek And Destroy, and Ammo Boost
Rich Get Richer is way too cheesy for me
all it needs is just Equipiment Power II and then you have infinite ammo forever and then you just spam stuff :/
Rich Get Richer is really fun
What does equipment power do exaxtly
since I play aggressively and quickswap often(And I've recently gotten into No HUD) I use Savagery and Seek and Destroy to either chainsaw a fodder to get out of a sticky sutuation or to top off my health
and since I burn through ammo with quickswaps and I have no HUD I top off my ammo with chainsaw, thus Ammo Boost
boosts equipment power
Oh.
with it upgraded, it's one of the cheesiest and worst runes imo
I thought it'd be something... more
with each siphon grenade you throw, you get 35 armor per demon
oh trust me, it is more
More... in MORE?
with upgraded RGR(75 armor only to get infinite ammo) all you need to do is throw it into a group of 3 fodder, bam infinite ammo
:/
Ammo Boost is also one of the cheesiest runes in the game if you frequently use the BFG
upon death, any demon has a chance to drop BFG ammo
in each arena I've played, I've noticed I get more than 5, every time
but I don't use the BFG at all sooo
¯_(ツ)_/¯
with each siphon grenade you throw, you get 35 armor per demon
when not upgraded, it still causes siphon grenade to suck up more health
Pretty sure it decreases the cool down for equipment
If only
Ammo Boost + RGR + Equipment Boost

The ultimate no-brainer
canon slayer build
i need help with this slayer challenge
what are some good setting for this challenge
nightmare mode pistol only
For if you want to just troll something.
Still waiting on that snapmap "Weird Craigslist Ad" sequel
question how do you beat the bosses on nightmare mode using only the pistol?
Really just shoot them. Not really any tricks
If your exclusively using the pistol anyway
Otherwise Siphon Grenade and Hologram are pretty nice
Saving Throw Rune and Air Control Rune are very useful
im doing a nightmare mode pistol only challenge
Godspeed
Beat doom 2016 for the first time yesterday for the first time, it was also my first doom game and it was a ton of fun
Gfg man
nice
Some people really like it. I think it's boring as balls though
pew pew for 8 hours
I have decided to do a pro gamer move and play 2016 without HUD, and only “realistic” weapon mods, so nothing that changes a bullet into a guided missile or stuff like that
Am I the only who thinks that the 2016 Pinky is... cute? 
No HUD is tough in the first arenas
I didn’t have too much trouble, probably just luck though
what difficulty?
I’m on UV though, that’s probably a big part
if not on NM, then I can see
ah yeah
first arenas no HUD on NM is brutal
tired of the low value pickups on NM and UN
but I’m also going without explosive shot, micro missiles, stun bomb, siege, and rl mods
what game
This one pistol only
im trying to get slayer rank on advanced research complex UN but its literally impossible ive gotten a slayer rank on every other mission except for that one how do i do it
im sorry
but ive just played 2016 and right after it i played eternal
and its just better imo
2016 is still really good
but eternal is perfection
Mhm
After completing eternal on nightmare my brain thought hey let's do 2016 soooo I did and I fucking miss the dash
I always manage to just Crouch mid-air
Sucks ass
Just takes time getting used to. I won’t lie. Returning to 2016 after playing Eternal for a while, I crouched mid-combat a lot too, heh. After you get through the initial 3 levels of the game, you’ll get back into the flow of it.
People do. But don't at the same time
Foundry really is where you get back into the 2016 groove after playing Eternal
why does snap map mode take so long to load
how can I import/export saves in the Steam Version?
I’m just trying to know why every demon dies the soon as I turn my camera to them without shooting
Death from immense fear
bendivio a la DOOM I guess
No mas pantalones.
Man, I just starting playing DOOM 2016 again for the first time since DOOM Eternal launched and man, this game hasn't aged well.
Like, I could list many reasons why, and it's still not a bad game overall, but so much of it feels off
Can't compare the 2 games. They're completely different. Just work on your muscle memory issues
I think it's aged like fine wine
You kinda can though, at it's core the combat is largely the same doom eternal just has additions to it
Eh, I don't know about that. There are several things I think are objectively worse like the much slower progression and weird balancing.
Kinda weird to call a sequel to a game that follows the same combat system and general mechanics "completely different"
Not really for those that play eternal back to 2016. You'll hear alot of valid issues however I can play classic doom new doom then 64 then wolf and zero issues. I'm able to enjoy the games for what they are what they offer and what they achieved and added to the franchise. Some people can't and that's fine
I mean, I can appreciate some of things that DOOM 2016 did, namely how it reintroduced the series to a modern audience. But like, I remember Hugo saying that it's hard to go back to DOOM 2016 after playing Eternal and for me personally he's absolutely right
I feel it's more if a issue for people that can't really unplug from eternal. This is usually 90 percent of the people that don't enjoy visiting 2016 again. They are unable yo appreciate what it did for new doom and what it added and how it saved the franchise. Eternal built and perfected 2016 but to poop on what it brought to the table is silly and short sighted
For me it would be like saying I can't go back to classic doom after playing 2016. Just doesn't make any sense
They all offer something special when it comes to doom
That's like saying Destiny 2 is completely different from Destiny, which it isn't really. Doom eternal isn't all too different, it does what nearly every single sequel does and keeps the core gameplay but either modifies it or adds more to keep it interesting/improve the gameplay. Eternal being more fun than 2016 has nothing to do with the games being similar or not, they more in common than they don't eternal just has a bigger focus on strategy and more interesting tools
I'm not saying that DOOM 2016 is a bad game or that it didn't contribute positively to the franchise. In fact, I think it's a good starting point for the reboot series or DOOM in general. I'm just saying that some of it feels a bit archaic or unpolished compared to its successor.
Not at all. You cant say doom 2016 aged badly and at the same time say it's not different from eternal
That's a contradiction
I never said it aged badly what? The game is good, eternal is good but that doesn't mean 2016 is bad. I had the same issues with 2016 before and after I started eternal lmao
Doom eternal adds alot of aspects and loops mechanics that is completely different from 2016. Destiny does not come close
The argument wasn't with you
You kinda just jumped in
Then why did you reply to my message....
Because you're adding on chemo then saying he's wrong now so yeah
I'm not even arguing with chemo
And wdym I wasn't part of the argument I was literally the 3rd message sent in this chain lmao
Just stop dude. Anyways yeah eternal added on 2016 but I still love 2016 for what it did and did really well. Also love the asthetic. It sucks people can't go back and enjoy older games sometimes. It's kinda sad but whatever that's not everyone
Nah I'll die on this hill, doom eternal is more similar to 2016 than it isn't. It's quite literally a sequel, doom eternal is just an addition to the already made concept's of 2016
Anyone who looks at doom 2016 and then eternal and goes "what? These are entirely different games they have nothing in similar..." Needs to get their eyes checked
No one's going to string you up for how you feel
It's not really an opinion though, almost every mechanic that's in 2016 is also in eternal. It's verifiable
Nothing similar would be dumb. But people and I've been here a very long time 90 percent of people can't go back to 2016 because the mechanics from eternal are missing and it makes it unplayable for them. This means they were too different for them. I'm sorry but that's just pure fact not your magical opinion
I do find it odd how people legitimately “can’t” go back to 2016. I still find it a ton of fun despite preferring Eternal.
💯
It's always unplayable no dash
Meathook
Ect
I don't see how a game aging poorly and sharing elements with its successor(s) are aspects that are mutually exclusive. Like, if you make a sequel to a platformer that has more variety and more satisfying physics, of course it's going to make its predecessor look quaint.
And like, DOOM 2016's problems go beyond the lack of dash or meathook, I've said this already.
Nor did I say that the game is unplayable or unfun
Do you believe saying a game aged poorly comes off as anything other than saying it's unfun. Or do you not know what aged poorly means
" oh man this game is fun... it's aged poorly.. wohooo"

No one thinks 2016 is perfect but it's qualities far outweigh it's issues. Doesn't stop it from being one of the best doom games and one of the best fps games ever created. Thinking otherwise isn't really something I agree with
I really don't think your argument and flip flopping has a leg to stand on so typing a story isn't really going to change my opinion or 2000 hours on 2016
All the best though
When I think of games or other media that's "poorly aged", one of the types I think of are just those that have its aspects outclassed by future works and/or more obviously flawed. There can still be fun to be had in them, nonetheless.
Like who said that "poorly aged" always equals "bad"?
Hell, I think Super Mario 64 hasn't aged very well in a number of aspects (namely the camera and level design), but there's still much I can appreciate about it.
time to play D16
after getting used to Ultrakill
this'll be uh.. interesting
ah right I forgot that levels refuse to load
🍞
🥔
I honestly don't know how DOOM 2016 is being compared to Ultrakill lol... no offense.
when was I ever doing that though 🤨
Read the bread above
going to play 2016 after like 2 years i hope i enjoy it after playing eternal for so long
the lighting is FUCKED everything is black oh my god
help how do i fix this
sell your pc buy a ps5
point a flashlight at your manitor
i literally am playing on xbox lol
Turn the brightness up
might be missing textures because i can see some things fine
Reinstall the game
that takes hours
Then suffer
it might be like this because its still installing lol
yeah it does stupid stuff when not 100% installed, even some voicelines go missing
xbox 1 S
oh well that explains alot
im glad i don't have the original xbox model jesus christ
ikr? xbox 360 tho... absolute spit in the face in the name of gaming
the 360 was actually quite good its just that the interface was... horseshit
54% of them broke down
and once you got it "fixed' only like 9% of them broke down again
that happened far after the console lifespan
OK pls don't hate me for this I'm just curious. Do people actually prefer doom 2016 over eternal. Like I know doom 2016 has the superior art style, but the gameplay in eternal is just something else.
a lot of people prefer it which is actually more than you would think
Well I still like to believe they somewhat prefer eternal more. I sometimes don't like to know the truth
they are both good
Saying Doom 2016 has the superior artstyle is totally subjective. Although id agree it has the superior atmosphere. But Eternal is full of personality - which i prefer
I dont think either are better. Id Software themself said they wanna make every doom different. So they all are self-contained and good in their own - Games. Ofc both have weaknesses and Strenghts. But neither compare to Doom RPG. Its just is the best. Everything else is kinda trash compared to it.
Eternal has the better artstyle but 2016 has a stronger atmosphere
Good way of putting it
I dislike how everything in Eternal looks like it's made of plastic
bn
Every doom has something to offer.
^
Necropolis no HUD is getting annoying at this point :P
especially the "kill a mancubus with a pistol" challenge...
and considering that I can't upgrade siege mode to have both outer beam and faster charge time, I'm also at a loss at the part with the 3 cacodemons
i've died there like 5 times :/
not unless I use DKSMS but I refuse to go that route
I think going for completion kinda defeats the purpose of no hud bro. It really is a blast if you just blow through game and enjoy the atmosphere no hud brings
I suppose so, I mean I did do Titan's Realm No HUD with the challenges done beforehand
with the ammo cap in the beginning, it was a bit annoying to do
So you prefer doom 2016 over eternal just because of how bad it looks?
2016 was the better doom game
No
Eternal is the better overall game
Yes
Doom eternal is the better doom experience
2016 has the atmosphere of a doom game, eternal is not the same, it doesn't touch on the suffering of the average person of the world
eternal has a happy vibe
2016 is doom and gloom with high points
Idk nekravol from eternal was anything but happy lmao
Also do you prefer doom 2016 over eternal
2016 is the better Doom game, it fits the franchise better
Eternal is the better overall video game
Ok I get it, doom 2016's art style is superior and all. But you can't deny that eternals gameplay destroyes doom 2016. I find it hard to believe that people actually prefer doom 2016 over eternal, like how lmao
Eternal is more fun
Which is why it's the better doom experience
can we just stop arguing about this and let people enjoy what they want
it's not that hard
I feel like the people who say doom 2016 is better than eternal are lying or haven't played eternal all too much
favoritism is subjective
I apologize I said this question before oops
ha, no
Eternal butchers the serious aspects of the franchise
Yes. I dislike how everything looks like a Funko Pop, takes out the atmosphere of it. Also they butchered Hayden, something that I don't see myself forgiving anhtime soon.
I admit that I have yet to play Eternal, but it is true that the gameplay looks absolutely bonkers levels of amazing
To be honest that plasticity look can be applied to 2016 models as well. Eternal just has spotlights on its enemies so they’re easier to see whereas 2016 does not.
I think both games look graphically fantastic, personally. The level of detail in Eternal’s environments and the atmosphere of 2016 
iD has some killer artists and game designers.
^
If you want to be precise eternal actually deviates quite a bit from the doom experience
At least in the traditional sense
I just have a small grudge against Eternal because of the treatment of Hayden.
All in all both games are very different and each played for different reasons, kinda like arguing oranges are better than apples
Both games have the Mobile Turret BRRRRRT so I'm happy
These are facts
MT unfortunately is heavily underused to everyone claiming shield superiority
“But they’re both fruits so they should be compared.”
fortunately, I am a pretty big connoisseur of underrated weapon mods
Don't remind me! 
Don’t. Make me burn the fruits
Instead of comparing Apples and Oranges why not have a nice fruit salad of both?
i think we can all wholeheartedly agree that gatling rotator was absolutely the most useless mod in 2016
Yes
If I had one argument it would be eternal has more replay ability
BUT that’s cuz switch didn’t get snap map
Ah see? Exactly.
gay facts
Damn it didn’t? Though that does make sense. I’d imagine it wouldn’t transfer over very well at all.
people who say tac scope or triple burst is useless are forgetting about gatling rotator
Burst is good come on
The optimization woulda been a nightmare
Yeah, definitely
I have yet to play Snap Map.
why just have it spin and shoot with poor accuracy when you can engage mobile turret and fire it instantly, as well as having almost pinpoint accuracy
like seriously
pinpoint
Strong words here chief
Not bad but not great imo
To be honest it’s pretty fun to play around with. And there’s quite a few good community maps.
Although a good 70% of them are…not so great.
mb Vega
accuracy and precision are different things
Go on
accuracy is like being able to shoot all 9's and 10's on a shooting range but having a space in between all of your shots, but precision is like being able to shoot only 5's and nothing higher, but landing all of your shots in the exact same place
in our case for the mobile turret, it has high accuracy and low precision
It's eargasmic to me
I see, thanks for the refresher
since most of the shots are usually centered in the middle of the screen, where a smaller crosshair would be
but where the shots exactly land in that small range are varied
np, it irritates me sometimes when people use precision and accuracy interchangeably
it also annoys me when people refer to any rotary cannon as a "minigun"
like OH MY GOD
English isn't my main language so I still need a refresher or two sometimes.
I get that tho
Also I wanted to ask out of curiosity, what caliber does the HAR and Chaigun shoot? I might be totally wrong but I feel like the Chaigun shoots .50 cal
realistically, the HAR shoots a .50 BMG
Oh GOD
however, in the codex it's stated as ".50 FMJ"
Which is?
The chain gun says 15mm tungsten or something
the chaingun on the other hand, shoots a 15mm tungsten slug
even though that sounds strong, we don't know the length of the round
realistically it can only be compared to a 14.5x114mm round
it's quite big
lemme just try to remember where the info comes from
so yeah, the D-12 chaingun can be most compared to an anti-tank gun that belongs on an aircraft or land vehicle
to give you an idea of what the chaingun is most likely shooting, here's an image of a 14.5x114mm Russian which seems to be the most comparable round
HOLY
yup
GOD DAMN
here are some good calculations made by a fine man called l2edshift on spacebattles.com
just remove the space
Got it
Well you should also know that gun powder technology has changed for modern machine guns. The cartridge design is already looking dated and new machine guns have the cartridge small compact but made of the powder itself. Which is pretty epic
if we bend logic and just disregard the laws of physics, then apparently Hell Knights are able to fully withstand the automatic fire of anti-tank rifles from WWII
and that's in Eternal, where the chaingun already possesses faults
Really feel that wouldn't be it considering the description of the weapon and its the future. Those types of rounds recoil would be pretty insane
Ohh it uses tungsten
my mind is just dead after trying my first bottle of 5-hour energy trying to stay awake in school
That is sick
tungsten with a DU coating, if the upgrades are anything to go by
I believe tungsten is what they're using for the rods from God weapon
But eternal is the superior game
Bruh I really hope you are joking tbh. There's no way you prefer doom 2016 over eternal
Doom eternal is the definitive experience because it makes doom 2016 look and feel like a tech demo tbh. Doom 2016 doesn't have meathook, dash, icebomb, blood punch, falter system, smart ai. Doom 2016 is still a good game on its own tho, but when compared to eternal, doom eternal blows doom 2016 out of the water tbh
people have different aspects of what they like
sure, Eternal may be more complicated, with more mechanics, and other jazzy stuff, but 2016 is simpler and has an art style that many people love
the grittiness, the immersion, and atmosphere is what gets them
and 2016 gameplay-wise is still fine
The classic games have none of the things Eternal does. Are they next?
there is no concept of "better" when it comes to games
it's all opinions and therefore, subjective
You know what fine I admit it. I don't like doom 2016 that much because I didn't grew up with it, I wasn't allowed to play it when it came out :,(
I wish I was a bit older to enjoy doom 2016, but I have eternal
so you're biased
And yet that “definitive experience” is not doom
If only I was 17 when doom 2016 came out maybe I would've preferred it
yeah its fucking quake lmao
^^^^^^^^
The Quakening
which is fine because i love quake as much as doom
Although I do hope the new quake is darker and less colorful. Love me the colors but darker I feel will help more with the gritty feel
since quake got a refresher, I really hope quake gets a soft reboot like 2016
Not less colorful, less vibrant
I guarantee it does
I admit it doom eternal is not the definitive experience. It sucks I wasn't allowed to play it when it came out. And only now am I allowed to play it. I guess doom 2016 is the superior game all along
First they re release quake on every platform
With crossplay
And death match
Then machine games helps make the horde mode
Are there any trophy hunters in this discord chat
A new mode / update for the old game
And add ons
Neither game is superior
They are too different
But in terms of traditional doom
2016 is that
we all know the most superior and its turbo turkey puncher 3
While eternal deviates quite far
Idk man. I just wish I was 18 when doom 2016 came out so I could play it.
U can get steam on that?
I guess I'll just stick to eternal, the game that's not as good as doom 2016 :,(
2020, Intel i3 dual core, Intel Iris 1536 MB, 8GB ram
they're both good smh
i got 2016 running on this somehow 
So am I considered an og doom fan if I didn't grew up playing doom 2016 but instead eternal?
Eternal was my first doom game
although 2016 is definitely much less graphically intensive compared to Eternal
og doom fans go back to the 90's lmao
people shit on 2016?
Idk people on reddit say you are not a true og doom fan if you didn't grew up playing doom 2016
vulkan, everything on low, 4:3, 600p, and console commands to remove shadows, decals, water, and lod_bias 20 to make it run at 60+ FPS
those are redditors.
Eh I still sometimes wish I was 18 when doom 2016 came out. Stupid mom didn't let me buy doom 2016 :(
I seriously wished I had a beefier computer but nooooo, "Apple is better" my family said
I do have doom 2016 now. But it just isn't the same, like I would prefer playing doom 2016 the year it came out.
OOOF
How would it be OG on 2016 when the real og is Doom 1993 and Doom 2 in 1994
I would do anything in my power to go back to the year 2016 honestly.
doom 1993 and doom 2 are so fun
literally only me and my dad have an android and a windows laptop(Although his runs like an ancient version of windows and got a virus LMAO)
everyone else is apple supporter
No because not only was doom 2016 a good game, but reddit was better, memes where better, p*** was better, just about everything from 2016 was better
every doom game is good in their own way
yes even doom 3
Idk man 2016 was just a nostalgic year.
hahaha, reddit
if you seriously use reddit hahaha
sometimes playing a newer release of a game and then going back to an older one can make some people feel like something is missing or "lacking" compared to the new one, which they got used to
Man there’s like 7 doom games that came before that fam
and that might discourage them from playing it
Doom came out in the 90s
Doom 1
2
3
Final
64
Ressurection
RPG 1-2
Yeah but people say doom 2016 is the definitive doom experience. And they say that only true ogs can like this post if they grew up playing doom 2016 when they where older smh my head tbh
Cope, seethe, cry
I use it because it's addicting
Imagine having an opinion! EWWWWW!
TRUE
I'm not a redditor tho
Well I use it for p*** as well and thats addictive. Also something about the post that people make in reddit are interesting idk. Also I try not to embarrass my self most of the time when I'm on reddit
=/ how old are you
17
Checks out
Uh oh
Idk doesn’t act nearly that old
Did I embarass my self
I think I got too carried away, sorry
Should've not revealed my age. But it's whatever, I'm turing 18 in 2 months oh well
Also why does that matter. How old are you lemme guess 27 lol
Bruh how old do you think I am, why would I be lying about my age smh
I am several centuries old, AMA
I was 14 3 years ago, but ok ig
What was it like living before fax machines
I asked cuz as a moderator I need to ban and report anyone under a certain age, you had numerous red flags hence why I asked
isn't the ban age like under 13
Oh I apologize, I should've acted more mature. I promise not to embarrass myself again.
Correct
we were spittin fax ourselves my boy, not like kids these days...
It’s part of the child protection act of the inter webs
yeah i remember seeing 9 year olds on discord before
Well I'm turning 18 soon and all of this won't matter right?
oh god
Correct you are above 13 so you are safe from ban
Just take my word for it. I apologize for not acting my age, I should've known better. I am still trying to improve myself
I'm white and American sadly
Oh well I just try not to embarrass myself when I'm on online that's all
Hopefully I did not embarrass myself
You are all good. All part of learning internet communication skills
Comes with practice
Thanks. Honestly I just get too carried away with my own opinions that sometimes I need to stop and think about my own actions that can have consequences.
Liking something = good
As vektor states saying anything is better than something else will always lead to some argument, fact checking a and other stuff,
Perfectly fine to love eternal, it’s a superb game, but saying 2016 is a worse tech Demo
Inside of doom 2016 chat
Will likely lead to vultures 😅
Honestly I don't like to get into drama. Im just not able to handle it tbh
Same I hate drama
Anyways if you like eternal look into 2016 snap map, some solid created levels with stuff like dash and monkey bars
Yeah especially when you are talking with people who are older than you. That's where it gets intense tbh
I'd much rather get into drama with someone my age tbh. It just feels scary to be into drama with someone that is twice as older
Eh age doesn’t mean much in an argument unless they have used those years collection information about what you are arguing
Pretty sure the average age of this discord is like 17 actually
seems young
2016 and especially eternal brought in a lot of younger members
They are fantastic modernized versions of doom reimagined I agree,
Best is debatable
Actually quite a bit of lore in the classic dooms
Just not crazy out of the world lore
Literally
Like eternal does with dimensions and multiverse and such
Every mainline game is connected except 3
3 exists in a separate multiverse
Tell that to the lore chat…
Rather not go there
Don’t blame you
It’s
Hell
Truly, lol
He said it’s canon in a separate multiverse
Which means it’s not canon
It is and isn’t
It is in the sense that all hell is connected
It isn’t in the sense that nothing about it connects anyways
Tbh 3 still had the best hell
Mighty shame eternal hell concept arts didn’t happen
Had modern versions of many of doom 3 hell locations and looked absolutely badass
Og is still on steam
Goes on sale often for like $1
Same with roe
Don’t forget to get lost mission mod afterwards too
Sadly the console versions only have the BFG Edition available. Which is still good, but many argue the vanilla experience is better.
Eh and ye
Not really
People argue too much ammo but tbh it’s not like you needed to really save In og
Doom 2 base game still worst doom
No rest for the living > base doom 2
The main thing BFG takes away from the original experience, are the darker sections allowing you to fight whilst having your light on. Now personally, I like that you can fight and see at the same time. But I understand those sections lose a lot of their tension because of it.
A bit?
Dis why I don’t use the flashlight
Problem solved
Mostly
Barrels O’ Fun, The Chasm…egh.
Ah, nice. That does fix it for the most part 
Anything after the menu screen
Some of 2’s Master Levels are painful too.
Doom # also had the master levels
Yes
The first master level is good
Then they did whatever the hell the rest was
Honestly haven’t beaten plutonia yet
The final Master Level was bizarre…
Tight rope arena with tons of Revenants, Mancubi-
Then you had to fight another Icon of Sin in the most awkward way.
But map design is already better from what I played so I’ll say yes
I played Plutonia through UV, was a lot of fun imo. It does kind of drop off in quality for the later levels but still, much better than TNT Evilution. Again, imo.
I still can’t get myself to finish TNT. Almost done with it. But after the Habitat map. I had no desire to keep going.
Doomy Turnal
There’s some peaks. But the lows are real low.
I get that vibe too
From what I’ve seen. A majority of the newer fanbase started with Eternal. So naturally, when 2016 isn’t like its successor, they shit on it. Same thing happened with 3 honestly.
The beginning of Doom 3 is the only reason people drop it
Super slow and it feels like nothing is happening
Yep. Tbf games should make good first impressions on players. So I can’t really blame those who drop it before actually getting to the real parts of the game. Still though, doesn’t deserve the hate.
It's worth to get through the opening though, later sections of Doom 3 and especially Hell make up for the slog you had to go through. If only it's ending didn't feel so flat
Agreed
It's strange and sad people can't unplug their muscle memory or just play games that came before. I don't even know how this disorder occurs in the brain lol
Yeah, no clue 
Technically it's a official " dlc or expansion back in the dayI guess but better than base game yeah
Yeah I agree with that as well
how does doom 2016 run on a nintendo switch?
Pro Controller 😩
I honestly never use equipment
I used to holo-swap but I got off that
I find siphon grenade too cheesy
and the grenade just sucks balls
one of them is the Pin that pops the balloon right
thats whats important
dude, when i got the rune trial with killing 30 Zombies with the supershotgun on my first try on one save file I cried
because that rune trial is so damn hard
second rune trial on Argent Tower
forgot which rune it gives
Nightmare with give you a damn hard time
Ammo Boost
i only get those runes for the sake of having 3 slots
what rune combos yall use?
Nightmare is a huge jump from UV, btw
armor shards and health vials give only 1 instead of 3, imps become super heavies(They do like double damage, imps can hurl 90 damage fireballs :P), stuff will scam you sometimes, and other shit
Ohik
why what, those runes are good
SaD is honestly broken
you can literally chainsaw an imp that's a few meters away from you
use it to get out of sticky situations
yeah
savagery for obvious reasons... etc
if I get a berserk, I usually equip AO, SaD, and Savagery
armor galore
or if I want to be a crack-addled spider monkey, I use BF
zoom
Blood Fueled
makes you faster after glory kill, very synergistic with Savagery
that reminds me, I gotta do Necro No HUD
yo ik this is going to sound dumb but my friend made a game in this dog shit game called fortnite and it looks exactly like the first lvl of doom 2016 and he said he didnt copy it i need some one to play the game and tell him that its a coppy pls
dm me
That's my total doom 2016 time so that doesn't explain it
Go back into classic and it plays like a dream
Mastered super shotgun got me like 
I finally got doom 2016 running on 4gb of ram
Cool
thanks
would anyone be willing to help me 100% doom 2016?
I want to get the multiplayer achievements but it's practically dead lol
I’d help if I could, but can’t
pain
@fervent jewel an easy way to do it btw is with Quad DMG
Shoot a single zoomed in SSG shot for tight spread, then start shooting the head
I've killed a mancubus in a single charged pistol shot to the head that way
It wasn't even full iirc

any tips for mission 4 (if i remember)? im in this giant horde of ememies and these jabba the hut looking mfs keep killing me
nvm its mission 5
pick up the quad damage powerup
will make things easier
although it spawns in more enemies
i got it
i found the quad dmg thing
and just spray and pray with the plasma rifle
how do i quick swap
i have not played eternal
ps4
alright
oh that sounds helpful thx
i love how this game proves i can kill hoards of demons that are literally from hell but cant do some simple platforming
@somber wasp did you try secret hunting?
On Argent Tower, you can get the Gauss Cannon
It'll make things in the future so much easier
i got the gauss cannon in ||hell||
Stun seige 🔥
I'll never stop promoting it
All my data is gone for no reason 😔
Yo I'm thinking of replaying the Doom series for the 5th time or so but was wondering if it is worth it to do for example a 100% run , or how can I keep it enjoyable
2016 specifically or all of them?
2016 and eternal are the only ones I played
But is there a way to check % accomplished ? I can't really remember
as it never was a goal before
Ummm yeah I think so
Well Eternal anyways
Don't know about 16 because I've barely played it
oh I can check 16 out myself as I have it installed , thanks 🙂
oh damn, nvm I don't anymore. Welp, if anyone knows 🙂
you can check if you've done all the mission challenges and found all the secrets in the level select screen, aside from that no idea
okay guess that would be enough
So I know I asked yesterday but I know some ppl didn't see it
Since multiplayer is pretty much dead, does anyone wanna create a lobby for ppl that want to do multiplayer achievements?
Definitely
anyone here want to play the doom 2016 multiplayer? i'm trying to get a squad together, on ps
Nah... let's go bowling though?
sure, roman, just this once
Lmao we have a full dang squad on nintendo switch doom 2016 multiplayer
We gonna play a crowded match
should i buy the game again for my pc?
If you’re comfortable playing with KBM, why not? Up to you though.
ok, thanks
Also you can always just....hook a controller up to PC if you do want the controller experience
True. I should have mentioned that.
guys what do i do im almost completely out of ammo and have no fuel for my chainsaw
Well, killing demons in general will give you a small amount of ammo if you're nearly empty, so you can always recover ammo from killing groups of smaller demons.
pistol?
pistol
also, why do you have no fuel for your chainsaw
unless you're chainsawing barons constantly, you shouldn't run out
I always leave arenas with at least 5 gas pips
even with quickswitching, I've never, ever had an instance where I ran out of chainsaw fuel unless it was in the earlier levels
If you're having ammo troubles, use Ammo Boost
Hey I haven't played 2016, but you got plenty of ammo, right?
So why can't you just lock on spam for constant damage?
Cause lock on is trash in this game
It’s decent. Does a good amount of damage. Especially for Summoners. Remote Det is better though, with the mastery.
I like how bizarre it is for someone who came from Eternal to hear remote det being better
They really thrashed the mods
Remote det is godly
I wouldn't even bother using lock on unless you're a new player
Idk if you can get it yet but if you can get the Rich Get Richer Rune if you armor is over 100 you get infinite ammo on all guns except the BFG and if you max the rune out your armor only has to be over 75
Once you have bleed the stack is just overkill
Lock down not as good as remote detonation
Remote detonation is op as fuck
Remote det can kill a hell knight in 1 rocket if the mod is mastered
Lock on... takes 6
Lock on is still good for combos though, but for pure dps remote detonation blows it out of the water
For enemies that are far away I'd probably start a combo with a 5 rocket burst
Aim directly at target or around, then press mod button to detonate a rocket mid flight
Usually like that since you can increase splash damage with one of its upgrades
And you can get Jagged Shrapnel, which will make demons lose health over time
Once mastered, it fires an additional rocket after you detonated the first one for the cost of 1 rocket
Turret
Mobile Turret, Gatling Rotator is absolute trash and has no use
I can't think of a single use for gatling
It just spins the barrel prematurely, and that's it
Mobile turret both triples your DPS and you can fire immediately without windup time, and increases accuracy to nearly pinpoint
Heavy cosplay
Least useful iirc next to pistol
I don't find it too useful but i think the high firerate can stun sometimes
It's hard to implement chaingun into weapon swap combos
Unless you're using it as a quick finisher
Which is why I don't touch it along with BFG unless I want to fuck around
I will never touch 2016 UN because so much of it feels like BS
NM is already BS in the first level
Trust me, you don't want to fuck around with imps
They are upgraded to super heavies in Nightmare
I have died more times in the first room of 2016 NM than I have my entire time playing Eternal
90 damage fireballs, fast as fuck and mobile af
Barons become imps
Play NM and say that again
NM stands for NutsM
I think NM just boosts damage and their accuracy against you, I don't think projectile speed is effected
Csg, explosive, then another shot to cancel mod weapon swap cooldown, Gauss, remote det, two ssg shots then takes care of a baron
Deleted in 4
Obviously I can take it to the next level if I try to holoswap, maybe 3 seconds
God tier
Or if I learn to properly modswap and holoswap, then baron deletion can happen in 2 seconds
Very good
2016's Ice grenade essentially
I prefer heat blast since it takes more skill to use
And heat blast is just good in combos and deals massive damage
Precision Shot for gauss is underrated
^^
Concerning this heat blast thing, after rewatching my cyberdemon video from a short to medium range away it does just as much damage as gauss cannon
And one mastered, the heat blast charges passively without using plasma
I mainly use it to quickscope heads for heavies or for combos
Btw, mastered precision shot makes demons explode when killed right?
So yeah concerning that
Something like that yeah
It doesn't matter how much you charge it
I think that’s for Eternal right?
It's a mod for gauss in 2016, it becomes a a hc mod in Eternal
Full or even minimal charge(just quick pull of mod button) can make demons hit by it explode upon death
Oh wait nvm I know what they're actually asking, It applies to both I believe
Mhm but in Eternal it's strictly limited to headshots
Yeah, you never really take enviro damage upgrades for granted until you play Nightmare
In Nightmare, first praetor suit upgrades are enviro upgrades
Don't even think about the others, not even fast hands
Not sure
OOF
Nice
True. Barrels can insta-gib you even if you’re 10 feet away.
Best difficulty
its because i used it a lot on the last mission
Anyone play multiplayer anymore
HELP PLS
I was messing with the graphics in 2016 and it crashed and I can’t open it anymore
Doom 2016*
Why is this game getting more addicting
I’m in the mission where the I find the helix stone and I have to find the crucible
Can someone tell me if I’ve reached the hard part yet
Or if what I’m playing through now is butterflies compared to the following missions
Oh no
oh yes
I just reached cyberdemon
I hope this things every atom ceases to exist
That his family will never see him again
He has no family
He's the last of his kind
should have turned it into a sandwich
Haha wow golly gee you got me again good heavens!
Who here agrees Doom 2016 should have been Doom 3 although the big argument is over Doom 64 being Doom 3 but I just feel as if '16 needed to be the third installment
Imo Kadingir Sanctum is when the game starts to take the training wheels off and Lazarus Labs is where the the wheels get fully taken off and thrown into the nearest wall.
Unless another another alternate UAC finds it’s corpse and rebuilds him for some fucking reason
Not me. Doom 64 is integral to the lore of 2016 and later Eternal
Something I never understood
i really dont have good memory but honestly it gets harder
when they continue to stack more enemies on you
you have dodge way more
A splitting headache
Doom 2016 was not made for weapons switching
and may we never need him again
I use a controller
Very doable
Especially with bumpers
Would anybody like to play Doom 2016? I've never played before and would like some guidance on it. I am on Xbox
get on multiplayer
I just got it on Xbox today, I was max level on multiplayer on ps4 before they gave the dlc to us for free, it's still really fun, just sucks it's long to find games
🙂 😦
Has there been any news on the crossplay issue for xbox players on snapmap?
The demons defeated Doomslayer by dropping a temple on him. How did they get his armor off? Was he actually defeated (dead or unconscious) or just too pinned to move??
glory kills should be considered asmr
What
get on Doom multiplayer,
I only had one more mission
But Christmas vacation called
And so for a whole week I’m going to have to live with the fact that I don’t know what’s gonna happen next
If hell can invent teleportation I’m sure that they figured out a way to do all that with a big ass temple
Definitely not dead. Probably just unconscious or a plot hole
Edp
Does anyone play 2016 on doom with online switch
Should I buy doom 2016 first then eternal?
it is cheaper lol, I need to get used to the playing mechanic
Both games play quite different from one another mechanic-wise. Keep that in mind. They’ve got the same principles, but Eternal builds off of 2016’s design philosophy. So yes, it would be better to start with 2016 overall. Imo
Story would also make more sense if you go this route too, if you care about the story
^
I feel like 2016 before Eternal is better for new players
if you get used to Eternal's mechanics before playing 2016, you may not enjoy it/appreciate it as much
ok thanks
Lol, is there actually a minor playing Doom?
Probaly yes
As in children? This community is full of them
doom guy was knocked unconscious
if you connect it to the other games
in doom 64 closed the portal in hell and stayed there then pretty much got ambushed
I feel like the game that saved doom has a sequel that perfected mechanics and gameplay

What are you talking about? 2016 just released
I find myself enjoying 2016 waaay more than eternal
whenever i try to boot up doom 2016 whit vulkan an error pops up can you help me?
(with)
Does anybody plays Doom on the switch anymore? Redownload the game recently and the multiplayer servers are fully empty
Like really no one
The multiplayer is mostly dead on every platform.
Yeah no problem. A shame no one really plays it anymore. It’s good fun.
Very true that
Well thats true but dang it that was fast xD
Its been almost 6 years
Oh ._. I haven't got it that long,had it since like 2 years lol
yeah servers are dead i just want to get to level 2 again so i can make custom classes and go back to bot matches
U on Xbox?
yes
Wanna do some multiplayer? (Not sure how many people we need, though)
we need like 6
I don't think that's right, would be dumb if you need 6 people to start a simple match.
Wanna give it a try?
its actually 4 people i checked
I can make a "Looking for Group", and see if we have enough people by tomorrow.
Are you up for it?
yeah i got stuff to do soon though
I'll post one for tomorrow, around this time. If you're not able to make it, then that's fine!
Besides, I'm not even sure if we'll get enough people, but it's worth the shot.
There we go, it's posted.
ight
oh crap i won't be able to play for like a week lmao i completely forgot that for Christmas I'll be at my grandparents for a week
and i leave tomorrow
Ooh, alright! Not a problem!
Merry Christmas! ^^

anyone have any tips on how to platinum this game since you need mp trophies
mp sessions are non existent
Hello?
Just got doom 2016 yessir
Enjoy
Since it's Christmas I just realized it was last year a few days before today that I played DOOM for the first time, starting with this game. 
If anyone is on lmk via ping I would like to jump into some matches 👍
It would be cool if Doom 2016 got an fps boost like tf1 and tf2
Help i just got doom 2016 and i got this helmet thing stuck on my scenn please help
Are there any trophy hunters in here
Which is the better gift. Doom 2016 or eternal
I personally enjoyed Eternal more; the movement is faster, it has more replayability, more cutscenes, better graphics, DLC worth 6 levels (+1 boss level), active multiplayer community (for the time being),...
If you can, get the Deluxe Edition, it includes the DLC - it's really worth it!
Keep in mind: the DLC in Eternal is very, very difficult, especially if you stuggle at the main game.
Yeah, but I've got the game on Xbox. I assume you have it on PlayStation, since you refer to them as "trophies".
why are the snap map weapon reticles so dang big
doom 2016 multiplayer servers dead
are the expansion packs free?
I'd say 2016 has a lot more replayability than eternal, with the possibly thousands of maps made with snapmap, much more expansive multiplayer and arcade mode. Plus if you're getting somebody into doom for the first time 2016 would be the better game to start with to know the story and have it basically serve as practice before jumping into eternal with its deeper combat system
is Doom 2016 Turing complete?
Anyone playing multiplayer team deathmatch
is Doom 2016 Turing complete?
Idk
What does this even mean
I have no clue lol
C
someone have proven classic doom is Turing complete
True, snapmap is really cool! But there's one issue, though, if Bethesda shuts down the servers, it'll be unplayable.
And the multiplayer, is... uhm... dead.
I like both games, but I personally prefer Eternal! :P
what modloader is good
can I post clips here?
Anybody wants to Play the Multiplayer from Doom 2016
can someone help me
verytime when i start doom up the screen becomes small plx help
idk what to do i bought it yesterday
chug it
how plz
i dont understand much
no lapotp
gaming laptop
can u come call maybe
Make sure game is set to your display's resolution in video settings.
yesterday i didnt had this problem
Check it anyway
a
Wut
Do it soon, because it's a 70% off on steam rn. That is how I got it for $5.99 for my laptop.
How do I activate security station?
replaying the campaign on UV right now
man it breathes in a lot of new life with the gameplay
dont the game glitches
the only glitch I came across was a Mancubus despawning right in front of me once. sad to see y'all got worse
Thank god you weren't playing on Nightmare or UN
That would've done way more damage
If a hell knight teleported there on un and killed me On un I wouldve uninstalled right there
While cursing everyone who has ever worked on the switch port
This would happen to you
Any general tips for this game. For cotext, I already beat Ultra nightmare on Eternal a few times.
I already have played Doom 2016 for 5.7 hours now, and I got it a couple days ago. Man it's such a fantastic game.
basically almost the same except you're a bit squishier in the beginning sequences
and the demons do ludicrous amounts of damage
after some years i'm thinking about buying Doom 2016 again but this time on pc. Though not for the campaign which i played over and over already, but for the multiplayer. Thing is i keep hearing that it's pretty much dead
Anyone can confirm so?
Yes. It’s dead on all platforms unfortunately.
You’ll rarely find a match, and the ones you do will likely be lobbies dominated by veteran players.
^
Thanks man
np
I just got doom 2016
Hello
balls
imma try doom 2016 on UV at my second playthrough, hopefully i wont rip and tear my hair off from anger
lol good luck

I'm currently on Hurt Me Plenty but it feels like there's no game balance.
Enemies are either too easy or easy and it's too easy to just die quickly many times.
It's becoming too difficult but is there anything I could do before lowering the difficulty?
Tell me your general strats and what you do during combat
And wdym by "it's too easy to just die quickly many times"?
Generally. moving around a lot
larger weapons for larger enemies.
Being cornered and overwhelmed a lot.
I've spent 10 hours so far on the game.
Keep movin’, keep shootin’
Good spacial awareness and knowledge of what’s most effective against each enemy is also viable. Look in the codex, especially for the Pinky, if you’re having trouble.
Though it’s true. Doom 2016 does have its balancing issues. Not just with difficulty scaling, but also how powerful certain equipment is. Even so, I don’t think these issues are as noticeable on difficulties outside of Nightmare. That is, until you begin to exploit unbalanced mechanics.
Doom 2016 just isn’t a very forgiving game. You’ve got to be smart about your decision making.
snapmap takes too long to load
Know the layout of the arena in order to prevent that from happening
If you're having trouble, you can learn how to quickswitch
Constantly jump while moving aroun(bhopping)
Use hologram if needed
Or siphon grenade
Just bought Doom 2016 after playing Eternal what can I expect?
You're squisher, the demons are slightly more accurate and deal higher damage, but otherwose it's the same
doom nightmare is literally imps overpowering you with aimbot in their fireballs which deal around 90 hp damage
And are there collectibles? I know there’s secret levels
Gameplay isn’t as hectic as Eternal’s, but it’s still very much fast-paced. Play it like it’s own game and you’ll have a good time.
And yes, there’s collectibles. Actually the secrets in this game are hidden quite well. Especially the throwback levels.
Is it normal for Doom 16 to run well on a laptop?
y e s
Cool. And a system requirements website said my computer could not run doom 16 at all. But they were wrong.
They're wrong about a lot of things actually
Even my macbook air 2020 can run 2016 with 60+ fps 
dual i3 1.1 ghz, intel iris, and 8gb ram
Yeah, my graphics card is Intel(R) Iris(R) Xe Graphics. And according to that site, I would be able to run doom if I had one of the graphic cards that steam says is the minimum.
Ultra nightmare is my go to difficulty for 2016. After playing eternal for a while 2016 starts to feel like a walk in the park at times
is there an area on the discord to invite others for doom 2016 snapmap coop?
Hi guys
I just beat doom 2016 and I’m taking my stab at ultra nightmare any advice for my run 🤨
I didn't get shocked by the only jumpscare in the game, but i screamed when i turned around to see a pinky behind me
no damage run
Hey, everyone! I'm new and haven't messaged in the server much because I'm playing Doom for the first time and I'm trying to avoid spoilers as best I can!
With that being said, I increased the difficulty last night because I think I started it too low. I was just wondering, does the game keep track of what difficulty you beat levels/the game at? Is there any reward or acknowledgement for harder difficulties?
There’s one achievement for beating the first level of the game on Ultra-Nightmare, that being a permadeath mode. Aside from that, no. Play at whatever difficulty you’re most comfortable with.
Although Eternal does have quite a few difficulty-related achievements in contrast.
Play a few nightmare runs first to get the hang of arenas
Practice them until you feel comfortable
Learn to optimize your quickswitching
Keep jumping around while you walk(bhopping)
Move erratically
Use equipment if you need to(hologram or siphon grenade)
Darn, I enjoyed the difficulty increase more but I just wanted a little stroke of my ego while I was at it. 😁
Hah yeah, understandable.
I personally don't for extra challenge, but then again I'm already not using BFG, siege mode, MM, stun bomb, no equipment except for the occasional grenade, and no HUD to top it off
That reminds me, I can continue my no HUD Necropolis run today
Should I do it with challenges complete or do them along the mission?
If I don't do challenges complete, I'm topped off on all ammo but I have to take space time to do extra stuff
If I do them complete, then I get an ammo cap for revisiting a mission :/
anyone know the song used for the DOOM VFR Argent Tower theme?
I suggest use the Holograms to confuse enemy AI in hectic fights, Saving Throw Rune to give yourself a chance to recover from a near death situation, Rich Get Richer Rune for infinite ammo, Air Control rune for better movement, and the Stun Bomb mod for the Plasma Rifle. Those will keep you going if you use them correctly
I wish there where more save slots in Eternal 😔
Ehh... In-Flight Mobility isn't that good of a rune imho because 2016 is claustrophobic a lot of the time and has structures closer together
I'd swap it out for something like Seek And Destroy
Ultra-Nightmare, Saving throw is recommended but not needed
RGR? sure, if you master it or use siphon grenades with Equipment Power
Otherwise you won't have infinite ammo for long
And I mean, both RGR and Saving Throw are the latest runes you get in-game
Anyone down for Deathmatch
Are the online features even still available? I tried getting into it once and it says the game can't connect.
Hot take: The Heavy Assault Rifle sounds way better than the Heavy Cannon
Is doom 2016 multiplayer still active?
@elder meadow, exclude the "yes"
Damn
Sorry I rarely check discord but yes the online features are still available









