#doom-2016
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then it would've really looked like holo-swapping, but was just proving a point to the community when i made the vid
Very well done
there's normally a half-second cooldown before firing each shot
if you understood the game's meta you'd understand how powerful it could be when used in real games
but it really is done in a similar way now that i think about it. a lot of tfc classes have special abilities, but the soldier doesn't, so they just made his special key a basic weapon reload. except for some reason, only that soldier's special reload key allows a glitch to reset the firing delay when swapping weapons. no one figured it out for like 20 years because most people just use the standard reload key (or more accurately, everybody just uses an auto-reload script). so instead of the hologram resetting the delay, it's that special soldier reload key in tfc
Oh damn that's actually a pretty interesting strategy
I can attest to that tbh, i assume most of the people who use the ssg the entire game has not played on nightmare
Nightmare forces you to swap weapons depending on the situation
it's the same as any game really, people tend to play the lower difficulties and think they know how to play, but really it's just that the game is so forgiving that it doesn't matter how they play at all
You basically summed it up
it's like in left 4 dead or back 4 blood where people get used to being able to run around like headless chickens on the starting difficulties, and then they join the real players on the real difficulties and instantly die over and over while always putting the team in danger
and then complain about the game/difficulty
Its basically admitting you only played up to UV
Nightmare or UN has no room for shit like ssg only
It has high damage sure but even tightening the cone won't increase the range
Don't forget about sniping imps
And then when people try to play the way they got comfortable with on the lower difficulties then switch to the higher ones expecting the same, they complain about the game being too hard
It's not too hard, you have no room for flexibility and to adapt
Or it actually is too hard, in which case just play a lower difficulty and stop complaining, or actually yknow try differentiating from your usual style
Yep then we hear the nightmare mode is broken argument which is pure bs
You clearly gave up early game
I believe this is what Eternal players call "forcing you into the FUN zone" lol
Hahahaha exactly. And anyone I've known that went to nightmare never went back
"It isn't restrictive, your playstyle is restrictive"
Nightmare is really hard to me and the sniping imps really are bullies, but it's fun to see the difference and accept the challenge
nightmare wakes you up pretty fast as to the deficiencies in your playstyle
The damage differences between UV and Nightmare are pretty darn hugh
So better adapt
i wasn't quick-swapping until eternal kinda forced all players to, which then made going back to 2016 and attempting UN much easier
it wasn't really a thing in OG doom, so i didn't approach 2016 like it either, though via the design of the weapons and perks you see how it made sense all along
Quick-swapping to maximize DPS or just swapping weapons in general and not sticking to one you prefer by lowering ammo
I think lowering ammo really was a good move
Not really quick swapping but swapping sure. Quake definitely does though
i don't think i even used the stun bomb in 2016 the first time through, all that much
Never used it at all at first
And people complain about the chainsaw not being insta-kill but I mean... did you forget crucible? Sure you get it late game but it's essentially the same thing
mostly just micro-missiles and lock-on bursted like all the other newbs
Sniping imps alone are a reality check
^
Glory kills 6 time for 40hp
IMP snipes me from a different level
LMAO
I had 87 health 3 armor
Imp just kills me 1 hit
It's rough but it changes you
You need to be more erratic in your movement and move around way more that you need to compared to UV
Actually that’s 2 imps working together
When 2 imps snipe you that’s game over. 100hp gone
i think i died the most in the foundry in that one gore nest in the room that used to be on fire / that you need the hand print for
I think it was a charged imp blast that killed me
You don't have to move worth shit in uv
Foundry is the cultist base of D2016
2016 UV
Pretty easy
2016 nightmare
Unbalanced as shit
imps and hell razers spawning all around you, limited areas to move around to, etc. i suppose i could've booked it for the balcony, but meh, i wanted to take them out on their own turf, heh
I quite enjoyed 2016 nightmare difficulty. But man they dropped the ball on s of the balance
yeah the charged imp blast does 90 iirc
Balance is for the weak
45 sounds right
Tfw imp fireballs do the same damage as cyberdemon attacks on UV
Nah see in 2016 you can only get so good. After that it’s all the game screwing you over

Trust me once you play eternal nightmare. You will see that game only further improves your skill nonstop.
You will enjoy eternal nightmare since you love 2016 nightmare
2016 un does too, it's just a different mindset in terms of tactics and what to watch out for
I've said a few times 2016 nightmare is definitely my favorite. I find no joy in uv
Twice as many demons at once. Larger arenas. Much faster movement.
less damage, far more forgiving comeback mechanics
I wish difficulty was like classic doom
Eh some attacks can still shred you. But while overall damage is lower there is also hella more attacks coming toward you
Lower difficulties, less monsters more items
Higher difficulties, more monsters less items
Even with classic. Maybe I'm just into a little bit of aids risk in my doom
Gets the blood flowing
And keep the damage changes between difficulties
That'll surely spice things up
What're yall opinions on 7 fuel chainsaw
2016 becomes pretty easy after, hmmm, what's the last hard bit. maybe the argent tower
Good or stupid
yeah, after that you face bigger bads and have the gauss, and it probably throws less imps at you in exchange for the variety
That remind me, I've never used chainsaw on anything higher than a hell knight or summoner
plus more health/armor and such. i never died once i got past 6
whereas i died quite a bit in 1-3
Never really liked just cheesing a baron with a single tap of a button
i don't think i ever chainsawed a baron either
Its hilarious though
i just never think of it considering what an attractively large target they are to welcome all my bullets
I only ever used the chainsaw like in doom eternal
For when i run lower on ammo count or to get away from a fight using IF's and SAD
I'm not saying "low on ammo" because it's kinda dumb when you've got 60 shells in your pocket
even in un, i feel bad if i instantly cheese a summoner by waiting at its spawn location to instantly delete it. whenever i do a UN run i intentionally let the first one in the argent facility summon some stuff to give me a challenge, lol
That is how it should be. Honor 
I even had it bound to C for a time before I changed it to MWheelDown lol
in my 100% UN run, i almost screwed up getting the final map achievement, 2 barons with one shot, because even at that point in the game i refused to abuse dksms, lol
i lucked out and recovered though, thankfully
I feel like if new players learn DKSMS then they'll just start using it right away as it basically is really easy to master and makes the game way easier than it should be, maybe that's my bias against Siege Mode
So yeah it's mostly my gripe with DKSMS more than just Siege Mode itself
yeah like i said, it's actually pretty balanced if you use it as intended
That would have pissed me off
Noice
I still see people just spamming siege and rocket launcher mindlessly tho, which i mean play however you want but i still have a deep disliking for it 😒
it was right here
Final level + credits. I played sloppy, but got the job done. No save scumming, shortcuts, or bugs/glitches/exploits utilized throughout the run. Nothing special. =x
timestamped
i didn't want to abuse their spawn points either but wanted to approach it like it was legit, and then i didn't think i had the shot. though i think the radius is so huge it prolly woulda hit the one on top and bottom at the same time, but i didn't trust it / want to risk it in the moment
Your movements clean I didn't notice anything sloppy
After Nightmare i feel like I should try either UN or NM no HUD
Both seem equally as hard except for the checkpoint part with NM that's excluded in UN
idk i think i played pretty bad, but not complaining since i finished UN
i'm used to being able to float like a butterfly in team fortress classic, heh
UV no HUD and no crosshair was also pretty difficult too when I tried it
Id love to give that a go. I might just record that instead. It seems intense
Yeah no way to keep track of health, armor, ammo, and no pointers with the compass

Better memorize the level and the secrets
And also for some odd reason I seem to be able to play nearly as well with no crosshair
lack of crosshair would be the main thing, i feel like the rest wouldn't be so bad, but it's not like i've attempted it (don't really have the desire to either, honestly)
does 2016 offer weapon models in that straight-ahead pose like in classic doom?
that helped know where you're aiming in classic. that and no verticality
I think I have it pretty down hahahaha
plus it was pretty easy tracing your fire or bullet holes
Yeah I don't mind no crosshairs
yeah
there's the classic weapon pose
I honestly use it in most of my playthroughs
there is but I switched it out
i guess it's just me having a natural instinct about where the center of my screen is
😂
time to continue UAC Nightmare tonight and get this done
question who had trouble with the first cyber demon?
me, I died like 6 times
i actually had 4 months of fighting whit this guy to beat him on im to young to die and on a switch
on fase 2
oh yeah I did my first few playthroughs on switch. definitely a bit different play style
damn, hell guards done in two minutes, that went way smoother than I thought
I guess I just forgot how OP slayer is at the end of 2016
so just played some more UAC Nightmare
tried doing the classic doom map secret, except when I enter it my screen becomes completely black and I can't see shit
has that happened to anyone
and so far, not counting the classic map deaths, i have 6
nope, not even me
Gotta say though, the classic level room in the first level is absolute bullshit
man I hate those fucking soldiers
Those big balls that explode after some time are so BAD
Well then...
I've done up to foundry on Nightmare
I think I've died like 60 times so far
6 times in UAC and not counting the ones before, quite a few times on resource... I'd say maybe about 20 times
Actually maybw more like 46 deaths so far
Also found a pretty nifty combo against hell knights
Stun bomb -> 1 barrage of micro missiles -> 1 rocket -> 1 explosive shot puts them in a GK state
I honestly hate how nightmare can feel so cheesy at times especially with the imps
But it's super fun
I think I've gotten a little better at manuvering around arenas at least
And my aim improved somewhat

hi
Hello
Pistol!
the way they L I N G E R
how do I uncorrupt a file
Singlehandedly the funniest thing I have read today
how do I corrupt a file
Idk take it with you into hell and hope it gets corrupted
For some reason I just dont like it
Thats fine. Whatever suits your playstyle
Smoke some Argent Energy with it
Anyway, now that I've spent enough argent cells into health as to not get 1 shot by imps, nightmare is becoming more and more fun by the second
Turns out that a barrage of micro missiles, 1 remote detonated rocket, and 1 explosive shot is also enough to put a hell knight into a GK state
So no need to use stun bomb anymore :D
I also have a feeling that vacuum will also be very useful now
Because im gonna be on the move constantly, having items being grabbed from further away really helps
I might go for ammo boost and SAD after this as a rune setup for Nightmare
SAD
Just like the Metallica song 
but true musical
its just better than doom eternal i dont make the rules
bruh Im so good at 2016 multiplayer Im being harrassed and called a cheater XD
I didn't even play Multiplayer
I went to the multiplayer menu cuz i wanted to try it but the first player that joined me was some chinese bish so i left and never entered multiplayer again
group up?
what
group up in doom 2016 multiplayer to play
i dont know what mode did i choose i just clicked the first option that i saw
which game you talking about
if anyone plays doom 2016
watch out for this guy. Thinks that I am aimbotting
I shouldnt be concerned right? This literally the first time I was reported for playing to good
should be fine
Yeah cause this guy even reported me

????
Salty reporting is never good
armored offensive is pretty helpful
Armored offensive is best
Yeah, I reported him with the messages he sent me
It's pretty much overshadowed by equpiment power siphon grenade and it requires 2500 armor points to upgrade, which only yields 3 extra armor on top of the 3, making it 6
So i don't think it helps very much
And in nightmare and ultra nightmare you have no time to glory kill
A single glory kill can result in death from a charged up imp fireball
So yeah i think armored offensive is kinda useless
There's better runes like Seek And Destroy, Ammo Boost, Blood Fueled, Equipment Power, etc
RGR is not a good rune
At least imo
The idea is good but the execution is bad
Its functional in early fight on nightmare but I don't know. Not really worth it
Pretty much
You've got so much ammo anyway
Why have infinite when you already have more than enough
RGR + Equipment Power Siphon Grenade and Siege Mode may be my least favorite combo
It just seems... so unskilled and so cheesy, and I'm not talking about Siege Mode
Its definitely cheese
Siege Mode on nightmare is fine because the movement penatly will punish you for standing still
And even if you get the movement mastery you're still moving at a slower pace than normal
Its high risk high reward which I appreciate
PB combo sounds are just still too good to make me switch mods 
Hahahah I know exactly how you feel
I need to get regular and mod switching down because i want to try a game with no holo swapping
So i need to how to properly interrupt a weapon combo with CSG or HAR to make it flow smoother
Plasma rifle rate of fire combos are pretty nice tho
Same with micro missile combos
People who don't appreciate tac scope say that you're playing doom like cod and you need to "git gud" and stop sniping in a doom game :/
Like alright, not my fault you only stick to 1 weapon mod and don't know how to use both in a good situation
Those are morons. Dev rounds shred if you have any sort of aim
And like seriously, what are you gonna do against far away imps
Basically rip imps fast
Micro missile them? They only lock on if you're close
Tac scope is way better
And precision bolt in eternal is literally the same
Quickscoping
You can clear the snipers really quickly then focus on heavies
And this is something I do often
Scope has a clear purpose. If you're only using micro missiles then I don't know what to tell you
It certainly does
Micro missiles are great for combos, but tac scope has range
And range helps way more in doom than you'd think
mastered micro missiles + overdrive = 
I'm devastated
first, the cooling unit room in Vega Central Processing bugged out on me and wouldn't let me complete the level, even though all enemies and cooling units were gone
force closed and retried four times
same results each time
and then I got killed by a cyber mancubus from it's shock wave attack as it was being killed by the bfg
RIP Ultra Nightmare
Fr
Mastered micro missiles have no business beig that op
I actually never use the heavy cannon in 16 at all lol
I probably should use the MM mod a little
I like how everybody says that everyone who played 16 overused micro missiles, explosive shot and super shotgun but then i come in with triple shot, tactical scope and not using the supershotgun that often lol
yeah, I just over used micro missiles because they were op in eternal
at least at my first playthrough
you mean 2016?
so, I assumed they would be op in 2016 too, yeah, they were, but, not as op as they were in eternal
no
they are op in eternal? From when? PB is way better but you know already c'mon we are on a official DOOM server
what's PB again?
ohh, precision bolt, sorry
like, there's an upgrade that multiplies their damage which shreds through everything
the micro missiles turn red too
buffed micro missiles
PB is a combo tool
PB + Rocket launcher + PB and so on
i really don't think i need to tell you
and it deals like a billion damage
the combo
it's a bit hard to execute but super good
yeah, Ik
but, PB isn't in 2016, kinda
like
there's the PB ballista mod
and, the siege mode
yeah in 16 it was tactical scope and it just added a scope to your gun
nothing else
no, like, Precision bolt was a mod for the gauss cannon/ballista
oho yeah the one that i didn't use for some reason in my first playthrough
yeah for the guass precision bolt
but for heavy cannon it was tactical scope
yeah, it was replaced by the destroyer blade
which I think doubled its damage or something
idk
i think for the better tho
yeah how the ballista turn into a f*ckin' crossbow
slicing enemies in half though, lmao
yeah, aeroblast
aeroblast is the greneade thing that one shots cacos
I heard that quick switching is faster in 2016 than eternal
yes
yep
F
quickswitching in 2016 work with everything
like in doom 2016 SSG + Ballista is slow so its not good
btw, the changes made to the eternal chaingun are the best
oh
in 2016 ssg gauss cannon is op
I mean, they removed the thing where the chaingun has to have time to start spinning or something
and, replaced that early spinning mod with the shield
the shield is the best
lol
i didn't understand the chaingun in 2016
i mean it starts shooting before it spins up
yeah
and you need to get a seperate weapon mod so you can have spinning before shooting
like tf thats dumb
its something that should be there from the start
yeah, unless you use a mod, but, it's not worth it if you have the other mod
ikr, that's why eternal did that better
turret mode is the best
and the mobile turret looks like a powerhouse that destroys everything in seconds but its really not that good
but
in eternal, the buffed micro missiles seem better than the mobile turret for some reason
¯_(ツ)_/¯
so micro missiles got buffed, huh? Just like full auto
this was how I beat NM the first time... it was very hard
with mobile turret, that is
i still have to beat nightmare in 2016
no, like, if you kill an enemy, e.g. a zombie, with the heavy cannon base fire, the micro missiles glow red for a limited time, and, within that time frame, they do about 3 times damage or something, so, it's almost like quad damage but, if you keep killing any enemy with the base fire from time to time, it lasts forever basically
i just don't play 16 very often
same
wasn't it that kills from PB boost micro missiles damage?
no, since when have two mods interacted like that?
the only thing I can think of is the quick charge destroyer blade glitch
if it was pb it would be easier
since pb is higher damage than base fire
but, there is the mod switch time though
ok maybe its just that i don't use micro missiles at all
like litterally i like to use MT (mobile turret) in Eternal just to style on frozen enemies
at least that
but micro missiles? nothing
lol, it's fine, but, you should try it from time to time
they're much more powerful than the full auto mod before it is buffed
micro missiles shred through possessed enemies, also, micro missiles bypass through the doom hunter's shields, killing it instantly
you don't need to remove the slead or the shields first
sorry it's basically like, uhm, enemies made powerful by buffed totems, but, they can't be frozen for extra damage by the ice bomb
but, anyway, micro missiles are the doom hunter's weakness
"You learn something new everyday"
Anyway Doom Hunters?
just PB Rocket launcher its sled or full auto it
and then when he goes "CRITICAL DAMAGE" triple rocket and death
i used to first break its shield and then attacking but that is a waste of plasma gun ammo unless you use heat blast
oh look its 1 am
so its my time to go to sleep
bye fellow Doomers
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well i will add it to "to watch" playlist and go bedtime
like, halfway through they show the micro missiles going through the doom hunter's shield
see ya tommorow
and remember: RIP AND TEAR
thx
Its okay man. Don't give up. Every failure makes you stronger
You won't get far depending on just 2 weapons with a un or nightmare run but yeah they have power
Thanks! Think I just need a break for a bit. That kinda killed the motivation. I know the time will come soon though.
Its all about practice. All my hours in 2016 came from attempt after attempt until i made the game my bit*h. You got this. A small break and practice the arena that got you until you know it by heart. Every spawn order and target priority then restart
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what does this mean?

Doom 2016 best doom in my eyes while doom 3 was great it was too realistic and the old dooms just dont do it for me, doom is a game where I can relax in a way of like taking my rage out on such hell spawn as the cyber demons to the imps and the doom hunter and the Khan maykr it helped me so much through the dark times as for helping me take my anger out, thank you ID, Bethesda, and just to doom thanks for existing you will forever be remembered eternally
rip and tear and bfg division best sound tracks lol
only with proper holo and mod swapping
in Eternal they have special code to both cancel and interrupt weapon cycles
Eternal didnt do it for weapon swapping
but due to the fact that both mod animations and hologram animations can be overwritten, they can reduce weapon swapping to just a matter of frames
that tech isn't possible in eternal
What's ur favorite soundtrack
mastermind, harbinger, damnation, bfg division, vega core, ADG, and RDAG
Harbinger all the way
Dose anyone wanna play snap map with me on doom 2016 my username is SupremeKermitOG

16
why?
Dose anyone wanna play snap map with me on doom 2016 my username is SupremeKermitOG
yes.
Is Mick Gordon an instrument
is mayonnaise an instrument
ask under the mayo
Fight like hell 
ok I will sir
Is it me or did 2016 levels feel longer?
But fun
yes
reached 100 hours woo
and I suck at this game
like Vega Processing and Argent D'Nur are really not that hard
and past me would have agreed 100%
but I was choking so hard right now
legit had to go at the last Vega Processing arena like 10 times
Maybe its just the fact I havent played in a few days
Might be because a majority of the levels are non-linear. More open to exploration.
Personally I feel 2016’s missions are, for the most part, shorter. If you don’t consider exploration.
It definitely has a few lengthy ones though. Lazarus Labs, Titan’s Realm and Vega Central Processing are the main ones that come to mind.
Foundry can also be long if you don’t know where to go.
Vega Processing is pretty short imo
Is my memory bad or are there only 2 arenes?
with some corridor combat inbetween
It is a bit short now that I think more on it. Just has a lot of major fights, and that one room where you have to destroy the 4 filters can be long if you don’t know their exact locations.
You drop down, fight some Imps, opening arena has 2 fights. Some corridors, then you’ve got that filter room. Then you jump on the train and fight a huge horde at the end.
oh yeah, forgot about the switch room
That ending fight is one the most hectic encounters in game, imo. A shame the level gives you so many BFG charges though. With the right timing you can easily wipe out that room.
yeah probably
The last arena in Argent D'Nur is a close second
Although what makes that fight easier is how much more open the arena is
and the fact that there isnt a cyber manc at every other step, jesus christ man
fr man. i think that might be the hardest and most memorable fight for me
All of doom 2016 is really memorable for me really
for either being amazing or not as amazing
Im talking about you, challenges
you can suck a fat one
👍
really though Im poo poo
life
life
lol
:|
I keep getting softlocked at this one part in the necropolis
which part?
turns out that it was because I didn't do something right 🗿 whoops
wait, photo mode is bound to \ ?
thats Altgr Q for me and it just doesnt work
time to edit the config I guess
doesnt seem like its editable in there
whatt
harbringer is awesome
You can't say you suck until you lose an un run to a door :fluffy:
wait how does that even happen
did the door crush you or smthing?
if so, that's really, really sad
theres that small lift in resource operations, after one of those train things
you can get crushed in there, and someone did
they were on UN so their death mark will remain there forever
damn
Oo, you get to go toe Argent D'nur in 2016? That's a good reason for me to get it
I wouldnt say thats the best reason to get it
its just a solid game overall
if Argent D'Nur is your thing then sure I guess
there is no question.
Eh, it'd be neat to be able to go there. Is that after the time you failed to save it in the past? I remember Samuel Hayden saying in Eternal, that you failed to save it, despite all the rage and power you have
you WILL get doom 2016
Eventually
Im not into the lore in the slightest, but it seems like way after that
i like 2016 and eternal about the same
Anyway, I just need to share some cursed doom gaming
was streaming to some guys without having my low spec mod on(maybe people who have epilepsy should watch out)
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/878761958508200006/902620433952682014/Xi3nGlaXVp.mp4
intel hd graphics go brrrrr
when you throw a nade and your PC explodes instead of the demons
pain go brr*
looks like Ultrakill but way worse
Ultrakill looks amazing, change my mind
mister u dont say those words like dat.
its more of the fact that lighting is just broken for me
Imagibe having HD lmao
I have Intel Iris
Doom looks good on any graphical setting except for that extremely pixelated one ig
actually yeah
oh look it's DOOM 3
That's mine except I got rid of the central doom grip
Not bad fps but it really drags down when I'm starting to render a lot of things
Getting rid of shadows helps tho
And setting the right amount of threads and aniso
I usually get about 60-100 fps
On really big arenas I get 30-100
Like argent tower 😒

Second to last arena of argent tower surprisingly I think I only had about 3 deaths
And I was playing trackpad
Last arena I just stalled until the tower exploded
Kadingir Sanctum just hurts rn bc my frames were dropping and I forgot to set shadows
I really need to setup a .bat file that'll run all the console commands
So i don't have to do it manually when i boot it up
mad skills
Nightmare is fun
Except for well the sniping imps
But tac scope helps deal with that
excuse me, you were doing WHAT?
you can do exec filename.txt
you can put all your commands in there
it has to be in the base folder
heres mine
vt_lodBias 1
r_skipLights 1
r_skipDecals 1
r_skipParticles 0
r_skipWater 1
r_skipShadows 1
// Dynamic resolution
rs_enable 3
// For 30 FPS
rs_dropMilliseconds 31.0
rs_raiseMilliseconds 30.5
// For 60 FPS (Uncomment these)
// rs_dropMilliseconds 14.5
// rs_raiseMilliseconds 14.0
rs_dropFraction 0.10
rs_raisefraction 0.05
rs_minimumResolutionScale 0.3
rs_forceFractionX 0
rs_forceFractionY 0```
I assume you have the mod that unlocks all commands already
yeah iris is quite a bit better
harbinger intensifies
ye trackpad 
you sir are an epic gamer
it'd be funny if I did ultra nightmare with a trackpad
nah, but there's basic default commands that can do a pretty good job too
I might look into installing that mod though
seems super helpful
Man, rocket -> Lock on -> rocket is so fun to do
Doom 2017 when
I can't get used to not being able to dash
thats one of my least favourite things about playing eternal, i just can't enjoy 2016 the same way anymore. Doom doesn't feel right without the dash, ice bomb, flame belch, weakpoints, meat hook and basically everything else in eternal after spending hundreds of hours playing eternal
or conversely eternal might not feel right to those who've been doom fans for 25 years
I believe there is a dashing mod, but that's it
i don't think things like ice bomb can be coded into a mod
and flame belch is basically siphon grenade + equipment power II rune
so it's flame blench but both worse and better at the same time
siphon is basically just flame belch but for health instead of armour
it also does armor too, yknow
it does??
if you have max health it can go up to 35 armor points per demon
wow I haven't played 2016 for ages
oooh, that'll be what I was thinking of
I didn't really pay attention to runes in my playthroughs of 2016
so yeah it's not as good without the equipment power rune, which is why I said it's both simultaneously worse and better
it takes up a rune slot but it gifts both health and armor
oh boy, wait until you see the power of Seek And Destroy
that rune is so stupidly overpowered it's not fair
need to get away from a sticky situation or a strong enemy?
chainsaw a fodder that's literally half an arena away
Ammo Boost, when upgraded to Ammo Boost II, can cause demons to drop bfg ammo
bfg ammo
now
still not as bad as the rune that gives you infinite ammo when your armour is over...50? 75? i forgot which amount
75
the point is that it essentially becomes seige mode: the game after that point
It's only good when paired with equipment power
Otherwise, only useful in certain situations
Armor is so hard to come by in 2016 it's virtually useless without equipment power siphon grenade
And same with siege mode
You won't be siege moding everything if you're playing nightmare
Nightmare has no time for that bs
isn't intel iris good ?
oh wait ig intel iris xe is good
huh so intel iris is actually better than intel hd
of course it is lmao

ok I got some cool shit to happen last time I played without my config
Thanks Vega
playing some 2016 PC multiplayer if anyone wants to join
enters with an HD3000. Although I don't play 2016.
You should
I have a 4600... Im pretty sure the game only starts because I once started it with a GPU that does actually support at least one of the rendering APIs lmao
oh boy
Doom + Doom eternal= VEGA
4GB ram and an HD 3000 isn't a great combination for newer games
anyone who play valorant
Doing quickswap in this is fuckn broken
huh
Pretty much yeah
But you haven't seen broken yet if you only do super shotgun gauss
What’s the most broken combo then
Holoswaps
opening weapon wheel after firing bfg 🙄
I did SSG with launcher and Gauss with assault rifle scope
Wrong server buddy
This. No honor
If you're including exploits, anything involving holo + mod swapping and the gauss cannon
This is probably the worst thing you could do unless you're purposefully cheesing things for fun and not for legitimate gameplay
Anyway, continuing on from this, barons can be deleted in basically 2 seconds and the cyberdemon first phase can be done in 7 seconds with holo and mod swapping
It's utterly broken when both are done consistently to a degree
Like, my holo swapping isn't super consistent but if I really tried I could do cyberdemon phase 2 in under 25 seconds(my current PB), or even possibly 20 seconds
Gonna be able to attempt more NM run attempts tomorrow, if I don't get any interruptions
And also my new phone arrives tomorrow too, so that's also a plus
Do you guys think id Tech 6 will be used for anything else?
Seems like wasted potential for the engine to be used for 1 game
Potentially wolf 3
Maybe the quake reboot
Nah quake would be 7. I'd guess wolf 3 maybe
Since they have the newer engine, I dont think there would be a point in going back to the old one
should i get 2016?
And 3 has been in development for a while.
Yea
Or Wolf would also be 7
Yeah looking into the development time
Definitely 7
100% 7
suppppppppppp
does anyone here play the 2016 MP?

Used to. Then I got all the multiplayer achievements and scrammed.
is doom 2016 harder than eternal
were are all players in doom
i want play this multiplayer and there is nobody playing :(
Yeah, seems like they moved on to Battlemode.
On PC, only a few people play the MP in DooM.
im bored what multiplayer should i play eternals or 2016
Eternal
Yes
Bruh
I beat the final boss at a school lock-in yesterday
of course it was right after my friends left the gaming corner to play frisbee
lol
also it was my first attempt yesterday
doom
doom
doom
Doom
Minecraft
doom
no
yes
What’s wrong with Minecraft?
This is doom server we don't talk about minecraf there
Halo
2016 it’s so much better
doom 2016 graphics are better then doom eternal
Do you mean art style? I can see why a lot of people may prefer it. I think both work for their respective games, though I wish Eternal toned it down a bit.
In terms of graphics, if you examine the models from both games, it’s obvious Eternal has higher texture resolution and detail on most of its models, backgrounds and maps.
that's totally subjective
I wouldn’t really say graphics are subjective. In terms of textures and detail. Art style is part of a game’s graphics though, and yes that definitely is.
2016 multiplayer is dead
I found bots more fun
cause they didnt obliterate me instantly even on the highest difficulty
ye the bots are fun
animations in doom 2016 were more brutal and had some environmental ones, i think everyone can agree with that especially with the chainsaw kills
although thats basically impossible with doom eternal with how fast you're basically zoomin'
if i want gameplay, i play doom eternal
if i want animations, i play doom 2016
doom 2016 was more ass kicker
eternal is more fun though
Doom 2016 shouldn't be compared to eternal. If you dont want to play a older game because a new versions out then I don't know what to tell you. If it's a muscle memory issue then yeah. That's a individuals problem not the games
doom 2016's aesthetic was pretty good
eternal's has a different vibe but for what it's going for it's really good
that's my take
don't try to compare the two games because they're fundamentally different
doesnt matter what matters is that you have fun
True
Just curious, but where is that "gore nest of truth" arena?
I heard this name being said quite a few times
never heard of that
I made another "impossible" level on snapmap anyone who wants to try it out heres the code
SQ69CRQ8
"Impossible" how
its very hard
Ah
Do it nightmare no balls
could you spoil a tiny snippet of it?
mhm ok
so you only get a normal shotgun and a chainsaw
and like 15 barons
and thats the level
theres a hidden bfg
how am I supposed to get it if I cant even get out of spawn?
bruh lmao
its called impossible for a reason
yea I'm kinda new to snapmap making so
so it aint impossible in the end 🤨
just make it impossible for the player to exit by removing the exit panel or smth idk lmfao
yes
yes
yes
yes
yes
Not classic pose minus 666 point
not trash graphics, -69420 points 🗿
Nice
very nice
I wonder if the ability for revenants to fly was inspired by the way they were coded in doom 2 to pop up off the ground for a split second so the rocket would come out near their torso rather than their legs because of projectile height launching being consistent on all demons
Or maybe that was just an unintended bug and id just thought randomly "hey they got missile launchers, why not put a jetpack with that"
Well classic revs are reanimated long dead demons with rockets strapped on while new doom revs are mutated humans through the revenant program backed by the UAC. So canonically speaking they are completely different.
No it was a specifically coded thing, they wanted to make the missiles look right
Oh yeah it was
The cyberdemon has no such code, making his rockets come out of his knees
Probably because the only times i heard, it was about ultra-nightmare/speedrunning
Although i might be just imagining things without even knowing it
@halcyon bear you did some UN right?
Just 2 nightmare runs no death. Not UN yet
@untold stirrup do you remember the ssg reload hit glitch? And how long did it take for patch?
they patched other bugs but not the BFG weapon wheel bug?
Thats what I'm trying to figure out
id please give us one last doom 2016 update 🙏
No, I actually frankly don't know what you're talking about :-;
And yeah crazy that the BFG weapon wheel thing wasn't patched
But i mean it's a 5 year old game and with how successful Eternal is, I doubt that they'd return to 2016
I don’t know what either of these are lmao
Okay. You shoot the ssg. But preform a melee hit half reload which would prompt a full reload then fire and repeat. The patch being trying to do that gives your ssg a one shot at a time reload instead of a double reload
Oh so inserting 1 shell at a time when reloading?
This is from my friend noodle
All I can think of is a punishment for a hit reload attempt
I rarely see that animation but its so cool
also that one where he waits a little and then does the reload
You've seen it before?
I've never seen it ...
Blowing my mind because I've put in time in the game and I've never fucking seen it before
It has to have something to do with the hit after
I've seen it.
Multiple times before
Saw it alot while recording last arena of Argent D'Nur
There is a mod called "DoomLegacyMod" which allows players to use all of the console commands the developers removed.
The mod can be found here: https://www.reddit.com/r/DOOM2016Mods/comments/ahfv2q/doomlegacymod_v201901_updated_for_the_latest_doom/
By using the console command below, I can play the unused reload animations for each weap...
How does it occur???
I really like that SSG one ngl
I tend to always hit the melee key after finishing a combo, anticipating a glory kill but if the demon dies then I just do that double shell reload
I swap before reload then swap again but even before I did this woah. Can't believe I missed this animation. Or even didn't notice it
So yeah I think it's just hitting the melee key after spending all shells in the ssg
Ahh so when you don't swap basically?
Yeah think so
I think it happened in the argent dnur recording I uploaded
Just gotta find it, or actually see if it happened in the first place
Yeah man. Hahaha you know you've been playing 2016 for a while when lol
Nope, no instance of it
Rip lmao
It definitely happened with my failed recordings though
Having that one shell at a time reload
I did some snapmap today and noticed some stuff
Weapons and their mods look and feel different in some places
like the UI is different, explosive shot for example seems weaker, animations are different
on the topic of animations, am I the only one who feels a little sorry for the SSG?
Doomguy just folds the thing like the lock never existed
Kinda yeah lmao
He just forcefully breaks the barrel open, never considering the lever
Just treats the thing like paper 
@wispy verge For some reason values are changed in Snapmap. Pinkies for example, have significantly less Hp than in the campaign.
Although I don’t know what you mean by animations, personally I never noticed anything different there.
Oh, huh. How strange.
yeah its weird
some stuff is done so weird in this game
Like the settings or the switching between SP/MP/SnapMap
never understood why the game has to relaunch for snapmap
and take ages while doing so
finally able to play some 2016 tonight
nice
Sometimes I wish this game had third person cutscenes like Eternal
Me too tbh
I like doom 2016 demon models more than doom eternal models
I only prefer the Revenant in 2016
Everything else just looks to Alien to me
Hellrazer look dope tho
#BringBackTheRazer
The Razer was really cool
We need those bullshit laser snipers
There more gritty and demonic while DOOM Eternal looks like a cartoon
Not that that's a bad thing neccesarily
nah we play the old multiplayer doom
The baron was superior. Hellknight is basically the same. Balgaar design was fantastic. Imps meh spidermastermind Olivia is dope
hellborn barons imo look better
that pink baron in such a gritty game just doesn't... bode well
it looks like something more out of Eternal with it's bright colors
with the darker color of the hellborn baron it'd fit right in
at least that's my take
Yeah the hellborn ones look way cooler imo.
I just disagree. The classic baron look is iconic and should have been kept
And considering eternal brought back classic design as a artistic goal it should have had a place
I think the gore system Eternal has makes the Baron look real fantastic when it’s wounded. Aside from that though, when it isn’t damaged, the model itself does look a bit dull. Yeah.
2016 already used the classic design though, so it would've been a little lazy ig
Damned if you do damned if you don't
hey so i bought doom sometime around august this year but when i tried to play it now again it doesnt work.
» DOOMx64.exe 0x6b8d2524 GetGameSystemInterface, DOOMx64.exe 0x6ad84681 GetGameSystemInterface, DOOMx64.exe 0x6ad8344c GetGameSystemInterface, DOOMx64.exe 0x6ad82b12 GetGameSystemInterface,
Game Crashed!
if someone knows a fix for this then please ping me! :D
Exactly but I mean keeping it as a base baron then bringing out the more powerful version would be fantastic
(everytime i try to load my save file it stops at around 80-90 and says Not Responding in task manager)
And a great reveal
Wet dream right there
Quake reboot
Y’know what they could have done is used the 2016 Baron model for the Armored Barons. Instead of it just being a Fireborne one. Although, the gore system would likely cause complications with that.
Very true
Why is there a jumpscare early on in the game I just got scared by a demon when I grabbed a keycard
it's just for the giggles, not fear.
Chainsaw bait
I just had to spray my pistol until it died
you can literally just punch it once and it'll stagger, allowing you to glory-kill it
It's gotta get all the way up though
Oh right fists are actually good unlike eternal where it is like being hit by a marshmallow
I gotta try fist-fighting a hell knight someday. 🤖
I might go do eternal and fist fight the icon of sin until it dies (both stages)
bruh lol
Ok that didn’t work as planned
oof
someone should do a run with only melee
I fucking hate the environment holy shit
Skill issue
Senza
but I might try
unfortunately you can't perform the spam punch quirk since that requires you to shoot the pistol or any auto weapon
so it's just regular punching
removing the hell razer from eternal was a mistake on id's part imo
Yeah its weird. Wouldve made the combat puzzle/sandbox/chess even more deep
I think they think they fixed it with the yellow shield soldier
reader, they did not
I would like the yellow shield guys to be tougher
^^
they should take at least 2 rockets to 2 stickies to kill
or make them more accurate, similar to hitscan
they'd be better that way
replace them with those fuckers from Doom 3
the ones that whack you with a goddamn whip, make your screen shake, and then shoot you
god i hate those things
they were great
yeah same
at least they're immune to headshots
but other than that it's just stickies or remote detonation
it's pretty sad
at this point just make em hitscan or similar by having high accuracy and precision like doom 2 chaingunners so they're a real serious threat
like shotgunners but with long ass range
don't even need remote det, just shoot at the ground behind them
I used to love remote det but I hardly ever use it anymore
lock on rockets are weaker on barons than remote det actually
that's continuing on the conversation about eternal
ah yeah I don't use lockon for barons
barons just get a regular rocket-swap-ballista-swap-pbolt-swap-shield chaingun
and in 2016 remote detonation is just the superior choice for DPS and usability
but lock on is better for combos unless you could remote detonate rockets when on another weapon
repeat until you have to go pee
Honestly? I would like to see them fire EVER.
I didn't know they were chaingunners at first! They die so fast I never saw them using chaingun
Absolutely I understand lock on for new players though
what did the Samuel do with the doom guy at the end of the game?
Took him to a baseball game

but for real?
yeah at first glance lock on seems so much better
what people don't realize is the massive DPS upgrades for remote det and how lock on rockets are weaker than standard rockets
In 16 I prefer Remote Det but in eternal I prefer lockon by far
in eternal lockon got a massive DPS boost
in 2016 it took 2 lock ons to kill a hell knight
but in eternal it's just 1
Explosive shot
Its the bread and butter
^
next doom game should be like doom 2016 looking cause I think the realism makes the game@more good to look at than a game that actually looks like a game because in 2016 you feel like doomguy more than eternal
I mean you need commas and grammar and maybe adderall but I agree
who on 2016 mp?
Literally no one
^
No one
You have more luck finding people on PC than console
no
this thing ^
the way more open arenas are better for the options in eternal
not to say that 2016 doesn't have any but in eternal basically every arena is a huge one to compensate for the player's mobility options
Doom eternal has so many new abilitys that tight spaces wont work for them
Hi. DOOM VFR it’s a nice game or it’s just DOOM 2016?
It’s it’s own game but uses doom 2016 assets and some levels
And the game it’s little bad
What?
Glory kills are so suddently
Yeah cause how else do you do them in VR
It’s more easy than doom 2016?
well you can't compare a VR game to a fast-paced first-person shooter with traditional controls
VFR released without smooth movement even
And i need buy the PS3 guns
So i cannot play the game
i finished this on halloween
nice work
yes doom 2016 has a limited pace but the meathook on super shotgun in eternal is just buttering on bread lol
I have never even tried eternal I have just watched a few vids of it on yt cuz my pc can't handle it 💀
but in the vids I saw ppl go FAST AF AND HOPPING AROUND THE MAP WITH INSANE SPEED
Jesus stop comparing eternal and 2016. They're completely different games
Talk about what you love about 2016... your favorite moments... combos.. weapons.. art design. This is a page for the love of doom 2016. Not measuring the 2 games constantly
doom 2016 is so pog that if it was a human Id marry it
Right?
#doom-2016-vs-eternal-channel when 
admins, start taking notes smh
smh
DOOM VFR needs the PS3 gun?
I have PSVR
Never because this channel will be guaranteed to lose due to its skill issue.
Skill issue being 12 year olds who's first doom game is eternal vrs those that know better
Doom 2016 multiplayer is devoid of life
Why are you faxing me ?
📠
Is there a way i can get that figure of doomguy?
From doom 2016
That was on gaming heads
Yeah I think it’s still available, I know pinkguy and patriotguy are
It’s sold out at the moment but I can DM the link for it
oho yeah i would love to have one of those
Ive got one, they’re really nice
If I had one of those I would fist bump it when I wake up when I go to bed and every time in between
Absolutely
I have mine on my desk
I'm still hunting the 3 A figure
The what?
😩
I prefer this because it's design is amazing
And its pretty rare
New it sells for almost 3 grand
It's so fucking neat. Like man, it has the cool guns and the chainsaw! 
Its extremely detailed and it's box is the slayers tomb
seriously? the sarcophagus? man I need to get that shit
Yeah dude
Its wild
Od pay 3 grand for it if I could find it
13 inches tall too
Fucking VEGA, I just wanted to post the image...
Man.... its the holy grail of doom collection
Honestly
You can get a autographed sealed doom 93 before finding this thing
such a shame I don't have any video game collectible. everything that I have is frickin' digital.
But as long as I can play DOOM. 
Thsts what matters most brotha!!
God, I feel bad that my laptop can't run 2016 now.
Bruh did anyone else have a hard time in the train room from the vega mission
God I wish I had that
But I guess the figma doom slayer looks alright I guess
sheeeeshhhh
Thats too fucking awesome holy shit
Making the box the tomb is such cool feature
1000 percent. Great detail
damn, hopefully you'll get a new laptop soon, slayah. whatever it takes 
it's the most difficult arena in the entirety of DOOM 2016 imho