#doom-2016

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chrome basin
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i coulda thrown more rockets in, heh

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then it would've really looked like holo-swapping, but was just proving a point to the community when i made the vid

halcyon bear
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Very well done

chrome basin
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there's normally a half-second cooldown before firing each shot

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if you understood the game's meta you'd understand how powerful it could be when used in real games

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but it really is done in a similar way now that i think about it. a lot of tfc classes have special abilities, but the soldier doesn't, so they just made his special key a basic weapon reload. except for some reason, only that soldier's special reload key allows a glitch to reset the firing delay when swapping weapons. no one figured it out for like 20 years because most people just use the standard reload key (or more accurately, everybody just uses an auto-reload script). so instead of the hologram resetting the delay, it's that special soldier reload key in tfc

halcyon bear
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Oh damn that's actually a pretty interesting strategy

untold stirrup
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I can attest to that tbh, i assume most of the people who use the ssg the entire game has not played on nightmare

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Nightmare forces you to swap weapons depending on the situation

chrome basin
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it's the same as any game really, people tend to play the lower difficulties and think they know how to play, but really it's just that the game is so forgiving that it doesn't matter how they play at all

untold stirrup
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You basically summed it up

chrome basin
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it's like in left 4 dead or back 4 blood where people get used to being able to run around like headless chickens on the starting difficulties, and then they join the real players on the real difficulties and instantly die over and over while always putting the team in danger

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and then complain about the game/difficulty

halcyon bear
untold stirrup
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Nightmare or UN has no room for shit like ssg only

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It has high damage sure but even tightening the cone won't increase the range

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Don't forget about sniping imps

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And then when people try to play the way they got comfortable with on the lower difficulties then switch to the higher ones expecting the same, they complain about the game being too hard

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It's not too hard, you have no room for flexibility and to adapt

Or it actually is too hard, in which case just play a lower difficulty and stop complaining, or actually yknow try differentiating from your usual style

halcyon bear
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You clearly gave up early game

untold stirrup
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I believe this is what Eternal players call "forcing you into the FUN zone" lol

halcyon bear
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Hahahaha exactly. And anyone I've known that went to nightmare never went back

untold stirrup
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"It isn't restrictive, your playstyle is restrictive"

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Nightmare is really hard to me and the sniping imps really are bullies, but it's fun to see the difference and accept the challenge

chrome basin
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nightmare wakes you up pretty fast as to the deficiencies in your playstyle

untold stirrup
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The damage differences between UV and Nightmare are pretty darn hugh

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So better adapt

chrome basin
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i wasn't quick-swapping until eternal kinda forced all players to, which then made going back to 2016 and attempting UN much easier

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it wasn't really a thing in OG doom, so i didn't approach 2016 like it either, though via the design of the weapons and perks you see how it made sense all along

untold stirrup
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Quick-swapping to maximize DPS or just swapping weapons in general and not sticking to one you prefer by lowering ammo

chrome basin
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aside from the chaingun existing

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to maximize dps / use in combos

untold stirrup
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I think lowering ammo really was a good move

halcyon bear
chrome basin
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i don't think i even used the stun bomb in 2016 the first time through, all that much

halcyon bear
untold stirrup
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And people complain about the chainsaw not being insta-kill but I mean... did you forget crucible? Sure you get it late game but it's essentially the same thing

chrome basin
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mostly just micro-missiles and lock-on bursted like all the other newbs

noble moat
untold stirrup
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^

noble moat
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Glory kills 6 time for 40hp

IMP snipes me from a different level

untold stirrup
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LMAO

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I had 87 health 3 armor

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Imp just kills me 1 hit

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It's rough but it changes you

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You need to be more erratic in your movement and move around way more that you need to compared to UV

noble moat
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When 2 imps snipe you that’s game over. 100hp gone

chrome basin
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i think i died the most in the foundry in that one gore nest in the room that used to be on fire / that you need the hand print for

untold stirrup
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I think it was a charged imp blast that killed me

halcyon bear
untold stirrup
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Foundry is the cultist base of D2016

noble moat
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2016 UV
Pretty easy

2016 nightmare
Unbalanced as shit

chrome basin
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imps and hell razers spawning all around you, limited areas to move around to, etc. i suppose i could've booked it for the balcony, but meh, i wanted to take them out on their own turf, heh

untold stirrup
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Heh, same with Classic DOOM

noble moat
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I quite enjoyed 2016 nightmare difficulty. But man they dropped the ball on s of the balance

chrome basin
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yeah the charged imp blast does 90 iirc

halcyon bear
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Balance is for the weak

untold stirrup
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Wow a perfect 90

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Imps are super heavies confirmed

chrome basin
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i think it's 45 in uv?

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been a while since i checked

halcyon bear
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45 sounds right

untold stirrup
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Tfw imp fireballs do the same damage as cyberdemon attacks on UV

noble moat
untold stirrup
noble moat
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Trust me once you play eternal nightmare. You will see that game only further improves your skill nonstop.

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You will enjoy eternal nightmare since you love 2016 nightmare

chrome basin
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2016 un does too, it's just a different mindset in terms of tactics and what to watch out for

halcyon bear
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I've said a few times 2016 nightmare is definitely my favorite. I find no joy in uv

noble moat
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Twice as many demons at once. Larger arenas. Much faster movement.

chrome basin
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less damage, far more forgiving comeback mechanics

untold stirrup
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I wish difficulty was like classic doom

noble moat
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Eh some attacks can still shred you. But while overall damage is lower there is also hella more attacks coming toward you

untold stirrup
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Lower difficulties, less monsters more items

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Higher difficulties, more monsters less items

halcyon bear
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Gets the blood flowing

untold stirrup
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And keep the damage changes between difficulties

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That'll surely spice things up

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What're yall opinions on 7 fuel chainsaw

chrome basin
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2016 becomes pretty easy after, hmmm, what's the last hard bit. maybe the argent tower

untold stirrup
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Good or stupid

chrome basin
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yeah, after that you face bigger bads and have the gauss, and it probably throws less imps at you in exchange for the variety

untold stirrup
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That remind me, I've never used chainsaw on anything higher than a hell knight or summoner

chrome basin
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plus more health/armor and such. i never died once i got past 6

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whereas i died quite a bit in 1-3

untold stirrup
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Never really liked just cheesing a baron with a single tap of a button

chrome basin
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i don't think i ever chainsawed a baron either

halcyon bear
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Its hilarious though

chrome basin
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i just never think of it considering what an attractively large target they are to welcome all my bullets

untold stirrup
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I only ever used the chainsaw like in doom eternal

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For when i run lower on ammo count or to get away from a fight using IF's and SAD

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I'm not saying "low on ammo" because it's kinda dumb when you've got 60 shells in your pocket

chrome basin
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even in un, i feel bad if i instantly cheese a summoner by waiting at its spawn location to instantly delete it. whenever i do a UN run i intentionally let the first one in the argent facility summon some stuff to give me a challenge, lol

halcyon bear
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That is how it should be. Honor justright

untold stirrup
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I even had it bound to C for a time before I changed it to MWheelDown lol

chrome basin
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in my 100% UN run, i almost screwed up getting the final map achievement, 2 barons with one shot, because even at that point in the game i refused to abuse dksms, lol

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i lucked out and recovered though, thankfully

untold stirrup
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I feel like if new players learn DKSMS then they'll just start using it right away as it basically is really easy to master and makes the game way easier than it should be, maybe that's my bias against Siege Mode

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So yeah it's mostly my gripe with DKSMS more than just Siege Mode itself

chrome basin
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yeah like i said, it's actually pretty balanced if you use it as intended

halcyon bear
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Noice

untold stirrup
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I still see people just spamming siege and rocket launcher mindlessly tho, which i mean play however you want but i still have a deep disliking for it 😒

chrome basin
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it was right here

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timestamped

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i didn't want to abuse their spawn points either but wanted to approach it like it was legit, and then i didn't think i had the shot. though i think the radius is so huge it prolly woulda hit the one on top and bottom at the same time, but i didn't trust it / want to risk it in the moment

halcyon bear
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Your movements clean I didn't notice anything sloppy

untold stirrup
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After Nightmare i feel like I should try either UN or NM no HUD

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Both seem equally as hard except for the checkpoint part with NM that's excluded in UN

chrome basin
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idk i think i played pretty bad, but not complaining since i finished UN

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i'm used to being able to float like a butterfly in team fortress classic, heh

untold stirrup
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UV no HUD and no crosshair was also pretty difficult too when I tried it

halcyon bear
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Id love to give that a go. I might just record that instead. It seems intense

untold stirrup
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Yeah no way to keep track of health, armor, ammo, and no pointers with the compass

halcyon bear
untold stirrup
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Better memorize the level and the secrets

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And also for some odd reason I seem to be able to play nearly as well with no crosshair

chrome basin
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lack of crosshair would be the main thing, i feel like the rest wouldn't be so bad, but it's not like i've attempted it (don't really have the desire to either, honestly)

untold stirrup
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Maybe it's msucle memory kicking in from classic doom

chrome basin
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does 2016 offer weapon models in that straight-ahead pose like in classic doom?

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that helped know where you're aiming in classic. that and no verticality

halcyon bear
chrome basin
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plus it was pretty easy tracing your fire or bullet holes

halcyon bear
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Yeah I don't mind no crosshairs

polar lake
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dang i forgot how easy titans realm is

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But also super fun

jolly geyser
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there's the classic weapon pose

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I honestly use it in most of my playthroughs

untold stirrup
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i guess it's just me having a natural instinct about where the center of my screen is

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😂

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time to continue UAC Nightmare tonight and get this done

languid surge
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question who had trouble with the first cyber demon?

untold stirrup
dense vortex
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i actually had 4 months of fighting whit this guy to beat him on im to young to die and on a switch

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on fase 2

polar lake
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oh yeah I did my first few playthroughs on switch. definitely a bit different play style

polar lake
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damn, hell guards done in two minutes, that went way smoother than I thought

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I guess I just forgot how OP slayer is at the end of 2016

untold stirrup
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so just played some more UAC Nightmare

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tried doing the classic doom map secret, except when I enter it my screen becomes completely black and I can't see shit

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has that happened to anyone

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and so far, not counting the classic map deaths, i have 6

wispy verge
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Gotta say though, the classic level room in the first level is absolute bullshit

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man I hate those fucking soldiers

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Those big balls that explode after some time are so BAD

untold stirrup
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Well then...

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I've done up to foundry on Nightmare

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I think I've died like 60 times so far

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6 times in UAC and not counting the ones before, quite a few times on resource... I'd say maybe about 20 times

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Actually maybw more like 46 deaths so far

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Also found a pretty nifty combo against hell knights

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Stun bomb -> 1 barrage of micro missiles -> 1 rocket -> 1 explosive shot puts them in a GK state

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I honestly hate how nightmare can feel so cheesy at times especially with the imps

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But it's super fun

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I think I've gotten a little better at manuvering around arenas at least

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And my aim improved somewhat

halcyon bear
elder meadow
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hi

polar lake
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Hello

viral garnet
nocturne escarp
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how do I uncorrupt a file

fiery yoke
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Singlehandedly the funniest thing I have read today

jolly geyser
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how do I corrupt a file

wispy verge
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Idk take it with you into hell and hope it gets corrupted

wispy verge
halcyon bear
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Thats fine. Whatever suits your playstyle

untold stirrup
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Anyway, now that I've spent enough argent cells into health as to not get 1 shot by imps, nightmare is becoming more and more fun by the second

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Turns out that a barrage of micro missiles, 1 remote detonated rocket, and 1 explosive shot is also enough to put a hell knight into a GK state

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So no need to use stun bomb anymore :D

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I also have a feeling that vacuum will also be very useful now

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Because im gonna be on the move constantly, having items being grabbed from further away really helps

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I might go for ammo boost and SAD after this as a rune setup for Nightmare

jolly geyser
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SAD

halcyon bear
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Just like the Metallica song daisy_f

wispy verge
elder meadow
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its just better than doom eternal i dont make the rules

unborn glacier
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bruh Im so good at 2016 multiplayer Im being harrassed and called a cheater XD

ancient comet
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I didn't even play Multiplayer

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I went to the multiplayer menu cuz i wanted to try it but the first player that joined me was some chinese bish so i left and never entered multiplayer again

unborn glacier
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group up?

ancient comet
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what

unborn glacier
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group up in doom 2016 multiplayer to play

ancient comet
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i dont know what mode did i choose i just clicked the first option that i saw

unborn glacier
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which game you talking about

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if anyone plays doom 2016

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watch out for this guy. Thinks that I am aimbotting

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I shouldnt be concerned right? This literally the first time I was reported for playing to good

wispy verge
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should be fine

unborn glacier
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Yeah cause this guy even reported me

halcyon bear
unborn glacier
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????

halcyon bear
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Salty reporting is never good

supple finch
unborn glacier
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Armored offensive is best

unborn glacier
untold stirrup
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So i don't think it helps very much

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And in nightmare and ultra nightmare you have no time to glory kill

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A single glory kill can result in death from a charged up imp fireball

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So yeah i think armored offensive is kinda useless

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There's better runes like Seek And Destroy, Ammo Boost, Blood Fueled, Equipment Power, etc

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RGR is not a good rune

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At least imo

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The idea is good but the execution is bad

halcyon bear
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Its functional in early fight on nightmare but I don't know. Not really worth it

untold stirrup
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Pretty much

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You've got so much ammo anyway

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Why have infinite when you already have more than enough

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RGR + Equipment Power Siphon Grenade and Siege Mode may be my least favorite combo

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It just seems... so unskilled and so cheesy, and I'm not talking about Siege Mode

halcyon bear
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Its definitely cheese

untold stirrup
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Siege Mode on nightmare is fine because the movement penatly will punish you for standing still

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And even if you get the movement mastery you're still moving at a slower pace than normal

halcyon bear
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Its high risk high reward which I appreciate

untold stirrup
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PB combo sounds are just still too good to make me switch mods justright

halcyon bear
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Hahahah I know exactly how you feel

untold stirrup
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I need to get regular and mod switching down because i want to try a game with no holo swapping

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So i need to how to properly interrupt a weapon combo with CSG or HAR to make it flow smoother

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Plasma rifle rate of fire combos are pretty nice tho

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Same with micro missile combos

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People who don't appreciate tac scope say that you're playing doom like cod and you need to "git gud" and stop sniping in a doom game :/

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Like alright, not my fault you only stick to 1 weapon mod and don't know how to use both in a good situation

halcyon bear
untold stirrup
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And like seriously, what are you gonna do against far away imps

halcyon bear
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Basically rip imps fast

untold stirrup
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Micro missile them? They only lock on if you're close

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Tac scope is way better

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And precision bolt in eternal is literally the same

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Quickscoping

halcyon bear
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You can clear the snipers really quickly then focus on heavies

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And this is something I do often

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Scope has a clear purpose. If you're only using micro missiles then I don't know what to tell you

untold stirrup
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It certainly does

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Micro missiles are great for combos, but tac scope has range

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And range helps way more in doom than you'd think

wispy verge
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mastered micro missiles + overdrive = satisfacdoom

polar lake
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I'm devastated

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first, the cooling unit room in Vega Central Processing bugged out on me and wouldn't let me complete the level, even though all enemies and cooling units were gone

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force closed and retried four times

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same results each time

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and then I got killed by a cyber mancubus from it's shock wave attack as it was being killed by the bfg

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RIP Ultra Nightmare

elder meadow
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Mastered micro missiles have no business beig that op

royal chasm
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I actually never use the heavy cannon in 16 at all lol

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I probably should use the MM mod a little

ancient comet
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I like how everybody says that everyone who played 16 overused micro missiles, explosive shot and super shotgun but then i come in with triple shot, tactical scope and not using the supershotgun that often lol

cinder panther
ancient comet
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at least at my first playthrough

cinder panther
cinder panther
ancient comet
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they are op in eternal? From when? PB is way better but you know already c'mon we are on a official DOOM server

ancient comet
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the second weapon mod on the heavy cannon

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the scope

cinder panther
ancient comet
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ah yeah shit i forgot how it was called for a second

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xd

cinder panther
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the micro missiles turn red too

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buffed micro missiles

ancient comet
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PB is a combo tool
PB + Rocket launcher + PB and so on
i really don't think i need to tell you

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and it deals like a billion damage

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the combo
it's a bit hard to execute but super good

cinder panther
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yeah, Ik

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but, PB isn't in 2016, kinda

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like
there's the PB ballista mod

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and, the siege mode

ancient comet
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yeah in 16 it was tactical scope and it just added a scope to your gun

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nothing else

cinder panther
ancient comet
ancient comet
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but for heavy cannon it was tactical scope

cinder panther
cinder panther
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idk

ancient comet
cinder panther
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looks cooler too

ancient comet
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yeah how the ballista turn into a f*ckin' crossbow

cinder panther
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slicing enemies in half though, lmao

cinder panther
ancient comet
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aeroblast is the greneade thing that one shots cacos

cinder panther
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I heard that quick switching is faster in 2016 than eternal

ancient comet
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yes

cinder panther
ancient comet
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quickswitching in 2016 work with everything

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like in doom 2016 SSG + Ballista is slow so its not good

cinder panther
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btw, the changes made to the eternal chaingun are the best

ancient comet
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tfu

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fuck i wanted to say eternal

cinder panther
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oh

ancient comet
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in 2016 ssg gauss cannon is op

cinder panther
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and, replaced that early spinning mod with the shield

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the shield is the best

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lol

ancient comet
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i didn't understand the chaingun in 2016

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i mean it starts shooting before it spins up

cinder panther
ancient comet
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and you need to get a seperate weapon mod so you can have spinning before shooting

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like tf thats dumb

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its something that should be there from the start

cinder panther
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yeah, unless you use a mod, but, it's not worth it if you have the other mod

cinder panther
cinder panther
ancient comet
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and the mobile turret looks like a powerhouse that destroys everything in seconds but its really not that good

cinder panther
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but

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in eternal, the buffed micro missiles seem better than the mobile turret for some reason

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¯_(ツ)_/¯

ancient comet
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so micro missiles got buffed, huh? Just like full auto

royal chasm
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with mobile turret, that is

ancient comet
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i still have to beat nightmare in 2016

cinder panther
# ancient comet so micro missiles got buffed, huh? Just like full auto

no, like, if you kill an enemy, e.g. a zombie, with the heavy cannon base fire, the micro missiles glow red for a limited time, and, within that time frame, they do about 3 times damage or something, so, it's almost like quad damage but, if you keep killing any enemy with the base fire from time to time, it lasts forever basically

ancient comet
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i just don't play 16 very often

cinder panther
ancient comet
cinder panther
cinder panther
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but, there is the mod switch time though

ancient comet
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ok maybe its just that i don't use micro missiles at all

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like litterally i like to use MT (mobile turret) in Eternal just to style on frozen enemies

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at least that
but micro missiles? nothing

cinder panther
cinder panther
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you don't need to remove the slead or the shields first

ancient comet
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oh no we get into DLC enemies

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i don't have DLC

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yet so can we not talk about it

cinder panther
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but, anyway, micro missiles are the doom hunter's weakness

ancient comet
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Anyway Doom Hunters?

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just PB Rocket launcher its sled or full auto it

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and then when he goes "CRITICAL DAMAGE" triple rocket and death

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i used to first break its shield and then attacking but that is a waste of plasma gun ammo unless you use heat blast

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oh look its 1 am

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so its my time to go to sleep

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bye fellow Doomers

cinder panther
cinder panther
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;w;

ancient comet
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well i will add it to "to watch" playlist and go bedtime

cinder panther
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like, halfway through they show the micro missiles going through the doom hunter's shield

ancient comet
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see ya tommorow
and remember: RIP AND TEAR

cinder panther
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sweet dreams

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<3

ancient comet
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thx

halcyon bear
halcyon bear
polar lake
halcyon bear
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Its all about practice. All my hours in 2016 came from attempt after attempt until i made the game my bit*h. You got this. A small break and practice the arena that got you until you know it by heart. Every spawn order and target priority then restart

elder meadow
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what does this mean?

untold stirrup
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:( rip

polar lake
worthy pine
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Doom 2016 best doom in my eyes while doom 3 was great it was too realistic and the old dooms just dont do it for me, doom is a game where I can relax in a way of like taking my rage out on such hell spawn as the cyber demons to the imps and the doom hunter and the Khan maykr it helped me so much through the dark times as for helping me take my anger out, thank you ID, Bethesda, and just to doom thanks for existing you will forever be remembered eternally

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rip and tear and bfg division best sound tracks lol

untold stirrup
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in Eternal they have special code to both cancel and interrupt weapon cycles

worthy pine
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Eternal didnt do it for weapon swapping

untold stirrup
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but due to the fact that both mod animations and hologram animations can be overwritten, they can reduce weapon swapping to just a matter of frames

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that tech isn't possible in eternal

worthy pine
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What's ur favorite soundtrack

untold stirrup
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mastermind, harbinger, damnation, bfg division, vega core, ADG, and RDAG

halcyon bear
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Harbinger all the way

untold stirrup
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you have 8 cores?

elder meadow
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Dose anyone wanna play snap map with me on doom 2016 my username is SupremeKermitOG

elder meadow
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why?

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Dose anyone wanna play snap map with me on doom 2016 my username is SupremeKermitOG

wispy verge
solemn anvil
#

Is Mick Gordon an instrument

royal chasm
jolly geyser
#

ask under the mayo

halcyon bear
jolly geyser
#

Fight like hell ripped

wispy verge
#

ok I will sir

wispy verge
#

fuck off vega thanks

#

anyway, lost souls suck

royal chasm
#

rip

#

(and tear)

mortal laurel
#

Is it me or did 2016 levels feel longer?

royal chasm
#

maybe

#

Khadingir Sanctum was long as fuck lol

halcyon bear
#

But fun

royal chasm
#

yes

wispy verge
#

reached 100 hours woo

#

and I suck at this game

#

like Vega Processing and Argent D'Nur are really not that hard

#

and past me would have agreed 100%

#

but I was choking so hard right now

#

legit had to go at the last Vega Processing arena like 10 times

#

Maybe its just the fact I havent played in a few days

halcyon bear
#

Keep at it

flint dune
#

It definitely has a few lengthy ones though. Lazarus Labs, Titan’s Realm and Vega Central Processing are the main ones that come to mind.

#

Foundry can also be long if you don’t know where to go.

wispy verge
#

Vega Processing is pretty short imo

#

Is my memory bad or are there only 2 arenes?

#

with some corridor combat inbetween

flint dune
#

It is a bit short now that I think more on it. Just has a lot of major fights, and that one room where you have to destroy the 4 filters can be long if you don’t know their exact locations.

You drop down, fight some Imps, opening arena has 2 fights. Some corridors, then you’ve got that filter room. Then you jump on the train and fight a huge horde at the end.

wispy verge
#

oh yeah, forgot about the switch room

flint dune
#

That ending fight is one the most hectic encounters in game, imo. A shame the level gives you so many BFG charges though. With the right timing you can easily wipe out that room.

wispy verge
#

yeah probably

#

The last arena in Argent D'Nur is a close second

#

Although what makes that fight easier is how much more open the arena is

#

and the fact that there isnt a cyber manc at every other step, jesus christ man

mortal laurel
wispy verge
#

All of doom 2016 is really memorable for me really

#

for either being amazing or not as amazing

#

Im talking about you, challenges
you can suck a fat one

halcyon bear
#

👍

wispy verge
unborn glacier
#

???

#

whats happening?

wispy verge
#

life

viral garnet
#

life

unborn glacier
#

lol

wispy verge
#

:|

coral marlin
#

I keep getting softlocked at this one part in the necropolis

unborn glacier
#

which part?

coral marlin
#

turns out that it was because I didn't do something right 🗿 whoops

wispy verge
#

wait, photo mode is bound to \ ?

#

thats Altgr Q for me and it just doesnt work

#

time to edit the config I guess

wispy verge
#

doesnt seem like its editable in there

cinder panther
cinder panther
untold stirrup
#

Also, tac scope is great

ornate basin
untold stirrup
#

did the door crush you or smthing?

#

if so, that's really, really sad

wispy verge
#

theres that small lift in resource operations, after one of those train things

#

you can get crushed in there, and someone did

#

they were on UN so their death mark will remain there forever

verbal geode
#

damn

fervent niche
wispy verge
#

I wouldnt say thats the best reason to get it

#

its just a solid game overall

#

if Argent D'Nur is your thing then sure I guess

verbal geode
#

there is no question.

fervent niche
#

Eh, it'd be neat to be able to go there. Is that after the time you failed to save it in the past? I remember Samuel Hayden saying in Eternal, that you failed to save it, despite all the rage and power you have

verbal geode
#

you WILL get doom 2016

fervent niche
#

Eventually

wispy verge
verbal geode
#

i like 2016 and eternal about the same

wispy verge
pale cipher
#

intel hd graphics go brrrrr

#

when you throw a nade and your PC explodes instead of the demons

wispy verge
clever ember
wispy verge
#

Ultrakill looks amazing, change my mind

dapper lichen
clever ember
#

Ultrakill looks great

#

DOOM on very low doesn't

wispy verge
#

its more of the fact that lighting is just broken for me

untold stirrup
untold stirrup
clever ember
#

actually yeah

clever ember
#

oh look it's DOOM 3

untold stirrup
#

That's mine except I got rid of the central doom grip

#

Not bad fps but it really drags down when I'm starting to render a lot of things

#

Getting rid of shadows helps tho

#

And setting the right amount of threads and aniso

#

I usually get about 60-100 fps

#

On really big arenas I get 30-100

#

Like argent tower 😒

halcyon bear
untold stirrup
#

Second to last arena of argent tower surprisingly I think I only had about 3 deaths

#

And I was playing trackpad

#

Last arena I just stalled until the tower exploded

#

Kadingir Sanctum just hurts rn bc my frames were dropping and I forgot to set shadows

#

I really need to setup a .bat file that'll run all the console commands

#

So i don't have to do it manually when i boot it up

clever ember
untold stirrup
#

Nightmare is fun

#

Except for well the sniping imps

#

But tac scope helps deal with that

wispy verge
wispy verge
#

you can put all your commands in there

#

it has to be in the base folder

#

heres mine


vt_lodBias 1
r_skipLights 1
r_skipDecals 1
r_skipParticles 0
r_skipWater 1
r_skipShadows 1

// Dynamic resolution

rs_enable 3

// For 30 FPS

rs_dropMilliseconds 31.0
rs_raiseMilliseconds 30.5


// For 60 FPS (Uncomment these)

// rs_dropMilliseconds 14.5
// rs_raiseMilliseconds 14.0

rs_dropFraction 0.10
rs_raisefraction 0.05
rs_minimumResolutionScale 0.3
rs_forceFractionX 0
rs_forceFractionY 0```
#

I assume you have the mod that unlocks all commands already

pale cipher
royal chasm
#

harbinger intensifies

untold stirrup
wispy verge
#

you sir are an epic gamer

untold stirrup
#

it'd be funny if I did ultra nightmare with a trackpad

wispy verge
#

would definitely be an interesting run

#

Id definitely want a "mouse" cam on that

untold stirrup
#

I might look into installing that mod though

#

seems super helpful

wispy verge
#

definitely is

#

I mean I can play doom without getting epilepsy

#

kinda cool

wispy verge
#

Man, rocket -> Lock on -> rocket is so fun to do

autumn wadi
#

Doom 2017 when

neon kestrel
#

I can't get used to not being able to dash

eternal mauve
# neon kestrel I can't get used to not being able to dash

thats one of my least favourite things about playing eternal, i just can't enjoy 2016 the same way anymore. Doom doesn't feel right without the dash, ice bomb, flame belch, weakpoints, meat hook and basically everything else in eternal after spending hundreds of hours playing eternal

chrome basin
#

or conversely eternal might not feel right to those who've been doom fans for 25 years

untold stirrup
#

i don't think things like ice bomb can be coded into a mod

#

and flame belch is basically siphon grenade + equipment power II rune

#

so it's flame blench but both worse and better at the same time

eternal mauve
#

siphon is basically just flame belch but for health instead of armour

untold stirrup
#

it also does armor too, yknow

eternal mauve
#

it does??

untold stirrup
#

if you have max health it can go up to 35 armor points per demon

eternal mauve
#

wow I haven't played 2016 for ages

untold stirrup
#

if you have the equipment power rune on

#

otherwise, it'll only suck up health

eternal mauve
#

oooh, that'll be what I was thinking of

I didn't really pay attention to runes in my playthroughs of 2016

untold stirrup
#

so yeah it's not as good without the equipment power rune, which is why I said it's both simultaneously worse and better

#

it takes up a rune slot but it gifts both health and armor

untold stirrup
#

that rune is so stupidly overpowered it's not fair

#

need to get away from a sticky situation or a strong enemy?

#

chainsaw a fodder that's literally half an arena away

#

Ammo Boost, when upgraded to Ammo Boost II, can cause demons to drop bfg ammo

#

bfg ammo

shy creek
shy creek
shy creek
#

the point is that it essentially becomes seige mode: the game after that point

untold stirrup
#

It's only good when paired with equipment power

#

Otherwise, only useful in certain situations

#

Armor is so hard to come by in 2016 it's virtually useless without equipment power siphon grenade

#

And same with siege mode

#

You won't be siege moding everything if you're playing nightmare

#

Nightmare has no time for that bs

wispy verge
#

for me it does

#

you have no idea how quickly I melt through my ammo with that thing

lone nova
#

oh wait ig intel iris xe is good

untold stirrup
#

huh so intel iris is actually better than intel hd

wispy verge
#

of course it is lmao

halcyon bear
wispy verge
#

ok I got some cool shit to happen last time I played without my config

#

Thanks Vega

languid tide
#

playing some 2016 PC multiplayer if anyone wants to join

still geyser
halcyon bear
#

You should

wispy verge
#

I have a 4600... Im pretty sure the game only starts because I once started it with a GPU that does actually support at least one of the rendering APIs lmao

untold stirrup
#

if my macbook can support Vulkan then...

#

👀

#

i think I can run doom eternal

wispy verge
#

oh boy

untold stirrup
#

15 fps from the huge levels

#

and also a destroyed battery

wispy verge
#

who cares

#

Who actually uses a laptop on the move?

#

Certainly not gamers like us

elder meadow
#

Doom + Doom eternal= VEGA

still geyser
vapid inlet
#

anyone who play valorant

wispy verge
#

lmao

#

no

neon kestrel
#

Doing quickswap in this is fuckn broken

wispy verge
#

huh

untold stirrup
#

But you haven't seen broken yet if you only do super shotgun gauss

sleek herald
fiery yoke
#

Holoswaps

chrome basin
#

opening weapon wheel after firing bfg 🙄

neon kestrel
snow heron
halcyon bear
untold stirrup
untold stirrup
untold stirrup
#

It's utterly broken when both are done consistently to a degree

#

Like, my holo swapping isn't super consistent but if I really tried I could do cyberdemon phase 2 in under 25 seconds(my current PB), or even possibly 20 seconds

#

Gonna be able to attempt more NM run attempts tomorrow, if I don't get any interruptions

#

And also my new phone arrives tomorrow too, so that's also a plus

snow heron
#

Do you guys think id Tech 6 will be used for anything else?

#

Seems like wasted potential for the engine to be used for 1 game

halcyon bear
#

Maybe the quake reboot

#

Nah quake would be 7. I'd guess wolf 3 maybe

wispy verge
#

Since they have the newer engine, I dont think there would be a point in going back to the old one

halcyon bear
#

Basically

#

Wolf 2 was id 6 though

hallow isle
#

should i get 2016?

halcyon bear
#

And 3 has been in development for a while.

raven fjord
snow heron
halcyon bear
#

Definitely 7

snow heron
#

100% 7

autumn wadi
#

Doom 2017 when?

#

Wait

ripe ruin
#

suppppppppppp

frank fulcrum
#

does anyone here play the 2016 MP?

halcyon bear
frosty bluff
placid bone
#

is doom 2016 harder than eternal

ocean beacon
#

No lol

#

How would it be

stray ivy
#

were are all players in doom

#

i want play this multiplayer and there is nobody playing :(

dusty dock
#

Yeah, seems like they moved on to Battlemode.

#

On PC, only a few people play the MP in DooM.

split surge
#

im bored what multiplayer should i play eternals or 2016

native star
#

Eternal

elder meadow
elder meadow
viscid jungle
#

I beat the final boss at a school lock-in yesterday

#

of course it was right after my friends left the gaming corner to play frisbee

#

lol

#

also it was my first attempt yesterday

ancient comet
#

Hello fellow Doomers

#

what we talkin' about today

wispy verge
#

doom

royal chasm
#

doom

jolly geyser
#

doom

lucid raft
#

Doom

snow heron
#

Minecraft

wispy verge
#

doom

ancient comet
ancient comet
snow heron
ancient comet
#

This is doom server we don't talk about minecraf there

jolly geyser
sleek herald
stark owl
#

doom 2016 graphics are better then doom eternal

flint dune
#

Do you mean art style? I can see why a lot of people may prefer it. I think both work for their respective games, though I wish Eternal toned it down a bit.
In terms of graphics, if you examine the models from both games, it’s obvious Eternal has higher texture resolution and detail on most of its models, backgrounds and maps.

untold stirrup
flint dune
#

I wouldn’t really say graphics are subjective. In terms of textures and detail. Art style is part of a game’s graphics though, and yes that definitely is.

elder meadow
sleek herald
#

Use the bots

#

On insane difficulty

elder meadow
#

That's boring

#

Real people are more fun

wispy verge
#

I found bots more fun

#

cause they didnt obliterate me instantly even on the highest difficulty

limber whale
#

ye the bots are fun

wise pasture
#

if i want gameplay, i play doom eternal
if i want animations, i play doom 2016

elder meadow
#

doom 2016 was more ass kicker
eternal is more fun though

halcyon bear
#

Doom 2016 shouldn't be compared to eternal. If you dont want to play a older game because a new versions out then I don't know what to tell you. If it's a muscle memory issue then yeah. That's a individuals problem not the games

untold stirrup
#

doom 2016's aesthetic was pretty good

#

eternal's has a different vibe but for what it's going for it's really good

#

that's my take

#

don't try to compare the two games because they're fundamentally different

elder meadow
#

doesnt matter what matters is that you have fun

elder meadow
#

Just curious, but where is that "gore nest of truth" arena?

#

I heard this name being said quite a few times

wispy verge
#

never heard of that

autumn lantern
#

I made another "impossible" level on snapmap anyone who wants to try it out heres the code

SQ69CRQ8

untold stirrup
#

"Impossible" how

autumn lantern
#

its very hard

untold stirrup
#

Ah

autumn lantern
#

even if you find the hidden bfg

#

also I am doing a pistol only run

#

of the story

untold stirrup
#

Yikes

#

Nightmare?

autumn lantern
#

nah hurt me plenty

#

I'd like to keep my sanity

#

well

#

some of it anyway

sleek herald
#

Do it nightmare no balls

wispy verge
#

mhm ok

#

so you only get a normal shotgun and a chainsaw

#

and like 15 barons

#

and thats the level

autumn lantern
#

theres a hidden bfg

wispy verge
#

how am I supposed to get it if I cant even get out of spawn?

autumn lantern
#

thats the point\

#

stop being salty over a level thats meant to be hard

wispy verge
#

I was expecting too much I guess LMAO

#

this isnt hard

#

this is unfair

autumn lantern
#

again

#

thats the point

jolly geyser
#

bruh lmao

autumn lantern
#

its called impossible for a reason

wispy verge
#

huh

#

I ran to the end and pressed the panel and won

#

ok then I guess

autumn lantern
#

yea I'm kinda new to snapmap making so

wispy verge
#

so it aint impossible in the end 🤨

jolly geyser
#

just make it impossible for the player to exit by removing the exit panel or smth idk lmfao

wispy verge
#

thats probably necessary to make a level

#

tbh now I want to make a level

wispy verge
#

yes

errant bloom
#

yes

native flax
#

yes

elder meadow
#

yes

slow rock
#

yes

halcyon bear
#

Not classic pose minus 666 point

wispy verge
#

not trash graphics, -69420 points 🗿

halcyon bear
wispy verge
#

very nice

fluid mica
#

I wonder if the ability for revenants to fly was inspired by the way they were coded in doom 2 to pop up off the ground for a split second so the rocket would come out near their torso rather than their legs because of projectile height launching being consistent on all demons

untold stirrup
#

Or maybe that was just an unintended bug and id just thought randomly "hey they got missile launchers, why not put a jetpack with that"

halcyon bear
fluid mica
fluid mica
#

The cyberdemon has no such code, making his rockets come out of his knees

elder meadow
#

Although i might be just imagining things without even knowing it

wispy verge
#

@halcyon bear you did some UN right?

halcyon bear
wispy verge
#

oop

#

well then the "gore nest of truth" shall remain a mystery

halcyon bear
#

@untold stirrup do you remember the ssg reload hit glitch? And how long did it take for patch?

wispy verge
#

they patched other bugs but not the BFG weapon wheel bug?

halcyon bear
#

Thats what I'm trying to figure out

wispy verge
#

id please give us one last doom 2016 update 🙏

untold stirrup
#

And yeah crazy that the BFG weapon wheel thing wasn't patched

#

But i mean it's a 5 year old game and with how successful Eternal is, I doubt that they'd return to 2016

fluid mica
#

I don’t know what either of these are lmao

halcyon bear
untold stirrup
#

Oh so inserting 1 shell at a time when reloading?

halcyon bear
#

All I can think of is a punishment for a hit reload attempt

wispy verge
#

also that one where he waits a little and then does the reload

halcyon bear
#

I've never seen it ...

wispy verge
#

I dont think Ive experienced it myself

#

But Ive definitely seen other people have it

halcyon bear
#

Blowing my mind because I've put in time in the game and I've never fucking seen it before

#

It has to have something to do with the hit after

untold stirrup
#

Multiple times before

#

Saw it alot while recording last arena of Argent D'Nur

wispy verge
halcyon bear
#

How does it occur???

wispy verge
untold stirrup
#

I tend to always hit the melee key after finishing a combo, anticipating a glory kill but if the demon dies then I just do that double shell reload

halcyon bear
untold stirrup
#

So yeah I think it's just hitting the melee key after spending all shells in the ssg

halcyon bear
untold stirrup
#

Yeah think so

#

I think it happened in the argent dnur recording I uploaded

#

Just gotta find it, or actually see if it happened in the first place

halcyon bear
#

Yeah man. Hahaha you know you've been playing 2016 for a while when lol

untold stirrup
#

Nope, no instance of it

#

Rip lmao

#

It definitely happened with my failed recordings though

#

Having that one shell at a time reload

wispy verge
#

I did some snapmap today and noticed some stuff

#

Weapons and their mods look and feel different in some places

#

like the UI is different, explosive shot for example seems weaker, animations are different

#

on the topic of animations, am I the only one who feels a little sorry for the SSG?

#

Doomguy just folds the thing like the lock never existed

untold stirrup
#

Kinda yeah lmao

#

He just forcefully breaks the barrel open, never considering the lever

wide crown
#

Just treats the thing like paper doomcry

flint dune
#

@wispy verge For some reason values are changed in Snapmap. Pinkies for example, have significantly less Hp than in the campaign.
Although I don’t know what you mean by animations, personally I never noticed anything different there.

wispy verge
#

the HAR while firing micro missiles just stayed stationary

#

normally it moves

flint dune
#

Oh, huh. How strange.

wispy verge
#

yeah its weird

#

some stuff is done so weird in this game

#

Like the settings or the switching between SP/MP/SnapMap

#

never understood why the game has to relaunch for snapmap

#

and take ages while doing so

untold stirrup
#

finally able to play some 2016 tonight

wispy verge
#

nice

wispy verge
#

Sometimes I wish this game had third person cutscenes like Eternal

jolly geyser
#

Me too tbh

wary crow
#

Who wanna play doom 2016 multiplayer

#

I'm bad at it doomguy_god_hd

#

😏

formal canopy
#

I like doom 2016 demon models more than doom eternal models

errant bloom
#

I only prefer the Revenant in 2016

#

Everything else just looks to Alien to me

#

Hellrazer look dope tho

wispy verge
#

#BringBackTheRazer

jolly geyser
#

The Razer was really cool

wispy verge
#

We need those bullshit laser snipers

snow heron
#

Not that that's a bad thing neccesarily

elder meadow
halcyon bear
untold stirrup
#

hellborn barons imo look better

#

that pink baron in such a gritty game just doesn't... bode well

#

it looks like something more out of Eternal with it's bright colors

#

with the darker color of the hellborn baron it'd fit right in

#

at least that's my take

errant bloom
#

Yeah the hellborn ones look way cooler imo.

halcyon bear
#

And considering eternal brought back classic design as a artistic goal it should have had a place

flint dune
#

I think the gore system Eternal has makes the Baron look real fantastic when it’s wounded. Aside from that though, when it isn’t damaged, the model itself does look a bit dull. Yeah.

fiery yoke
#

2016 already used the classic design though, so it would've been a little lazy ig

#

Damned if you do damned if you don't

young junco
#

hey so i bought doom sometime around august this year but when i tried to play it now again it doesnt work.

» DOOMx64.exe 0x6b8d2524 GetGameSystemInterface, DOOMx64.exe 0x6ad84681 GetGameSystemInterface, DOOMx64.exe 0x6ad8344c GetGameSystemInterface, DOOMx64.exe 0x6ad82b12 GetGameSystemInterface,
Game Crashed!

#

if someone knows a fix for this then please ping me! :D

halcyon bear
young junco
#

(everytime i try to load my save file it stops at around 80-90 and says Not Responding in task manager)

halcyon bear
#

And a great reveal

fiery yoke
#

Wet dream right there

jolly geyser
#

uh

#

wut

wispy verge
#

Quake reboot

flint dune
dense kestrel
#

Why is there a jumpscare early on in the game I just got scared by a demon when I grabbed a keycard

jolly geyser
#

it's just for the giggles, not fear.

dense kestrel
#

Oh

#

Well not funny when I have no ammo for my shotgun

fiery yoke
#

Chainsaw bait

dense kestrel
#

I just had to spray my pistol until it died

jolly geyser
#

you can literally just punch it once and it'll stagger, allowing you to glory-kill it

fiery yoke
#

It's gotta get all the way up though

dense kestrel
jolly geyser
#

I gotta try fist-fighting a hell knight someday. 🤖

dense kestrel
#

I might go do eternal and fist fight the icon of sin until it dies (both stages)

jolly geyser
#

bruh lol

dense kestrel
#

Ok that didn’t work as planned

jolly geyser
#

oof

wispy verge
#

someone should do a run with only melee

wispy verge
#

I fucking hate the environment holy shit

fluid mica
#

Skill issue

untold stirrup
#

but I might try

#

unfortunately you can't perform the spam punch quirk since that requires you to shoot the pistol or any auto weapon

#

so it's just regular punching

royal chasm
errant bloom
#

Yeah its weird. Wouldve made the combat puzzle/sandbox/chess even more deep

royal chasm
#

I think they think they fixed it with the yellow shield soldier

#

reader, they did not

#

I would like the yellow shield guys to be tougher

untold stirrup
#

they should take at least 2 rockets to 2 stickies to kill

#

or make them more accurate, similar to hitscan

#

they'd be better that way

royal chasm
#

the ones that whack you with a goddamn whip, make your screen shake, and then shoot you

#

god i hate those things

#

they were great

untold stirrup
#

yeah same

#

at least they're immune to headshots

#

but other than that it's just stickies or remote detonation

#

it's pretty sad

#

at this point just make em hitscan or similar by having high accuracy and precision like doom 2 chaingunners so they're a real serious threat

#

like shotgunners but with long ass range

royal chasm
#

I used to love remote det but I hardly ever use it anymore

untold stirrup
#

lock on rockets are weaker on barons than remote det actually

#

that's continuing on the conversation about eternal

royal chasm
#

barons just get a regular rocket-swap-ballista-swap-pbolt-swap-shield chaingun

untold stirrup
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and in 2016 remote detonation is just the superior choice for DPS and usability

but lock on is better for combos unless you could remote detonate rockets when on another weapon

royal chasm
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repeat until you have to go pee

royal chasm
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Honestly? I would like to see them fire EVER.

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I didn't know they were chaingunners at first! They die so fast I never saw them using chaingun

halcyon bear
eager tide
halcyon bear
eager tide
eager tide
untold stirrup
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what people don't realize is the massive DPS upgrades for remote det and how lock on rockets are weaker than standard rockets

royal chasm
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In 16 I prefer Remote Det but in eternal I prefer lockon by far

untold stirrup
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in eternal lockon got a massive DPS boost

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in 2016 it took 2 lock ons to kill a hell knight

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but in eternal it's just 1

elder meadow
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Damn

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Explosive shot or Charged burst ?

halcyon bear
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Its the bread and butter

jolly geyser
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^

patent dove
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next doom game should be like doom 2016 looking cause I think the realism makes the game@more good to look at than a game that actually looks like a game because in 2016 you feel like doomguy more than eternal

fluid mica
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I mean you need commas and grammar and maybe adderall but I agree

crisp badger
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who on 2016 mp?

fluid mica
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Literally no one

untold stirrup
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^

mortal reef
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You have more luck finding people on PC than console

untold stirrup
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this thing ^

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the way more open arenas are better for the options in eternal

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not to say that 2016 doesn't have any but in eternal basically every arena is a huge one to compensate for the player's mobility options

abstract idol
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Doom eternal has so many new abilitys that tight spaces wont work for them

woven galleon
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yeah hello

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my multiplayer progress got deleted

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how can i get it back

lethal venture
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Hi. DOOM VFR it’s a nice game or it’s just DOOM 2016?

fluid mica
lethal venture
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And the game it’s little bad

fluid mica
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What?

lethal venture
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Glory kills are so suddently

fluid mica
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Yeah cause how else do you do them in VR

lethal venture
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It’s more easy than doom 2016?

fluid mica
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Hard to say

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Different types of difficulty

jolly geyser
fluid mica
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VFR released without smooth movement even

lethal venture
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And i need buy the PS3 guns

lethal venture
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So i cannot play the game

willow tundra
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i finished this on halloween

jolly geyser
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nice work

lone nova
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yes doom 2016 has a limited pace but the meathook on super shotgun in eternal is just buttering on bread lol

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I have never even tried eternal I have just watched a few vids of it on yt cuz my pc can't handle it 💀

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but in the vids I saw ppl go FAST AF AND HOPPING AROUND THE MAP WITH INSANE SPEED

fluid mica
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Challenge the ideas

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Or just make it good

halcyon bear
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Jesus stop comparing eternal and 2016. They're completely different games

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Talk about what you love about 2016... your favorite moments... combos.. weapons.. art design. This is a page for the love of doom 2016. Not measuring the 2 games constantly

wispy verge
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doom 2016 is so pog that if it was a human Id marry it

halcyon bear
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Right?

jolly geyser
wispy verge
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admins, start taking notes smh

untold stirrup
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smh

lethal venture
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DOOM VFR needs the PS3 gun?

lethal venture
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I have PSVR

frosty bluff
halcyon bear
elder meadow
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Doom 2016 multiplayer is devoid of life

halcyon bear
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Why are you faxing me ?

wispy verge
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📠

amber dirge
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Is there a way i can get that figure of doomguy?

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From doom 2016

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That was on gaming heads

fluid mica
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Yeah I think it’s still available, I know pinkguy and patriotguy are

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It’s sold out at the moment but I can DM the link for it

ancient comet
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oho yeah i would love to have one of those

fluid mica
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Ive got one, they’re really nice

snow heron
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If I had one of those I would fist bump it when I wake up when I go to bed and every time in between

halcyon bear
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Absolutely

fluid mica
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I have mine on my desk

halcyon bear
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I'm still hunting the 3 A figure

fluid mica
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The what?

halcyon bear
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This

jolly geyser
halcyon bear
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And its pretty rare

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New it sells for almost 3 grand

jolly geyser
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It's so fucking neat. Like man, it has the cool guns and the chainsaw! SuperShotgun

halcyon bear
jolly geyser
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seriously? the sarcophagus? man I need to get that shit

halcyon bear
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Its wild

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Od pay 3 grand for it if I could find it

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13 inches tall too

jolly geyser
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Fucking VEGA, I just wanted to post the image...

halcyon bear
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Man.... its the holy grail of doom collection

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Honestly

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You can get a autographed sealed doom 93 before finding this thing

jolly geyser
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such a shame I don't have any video game collectible. everything that I have is frickin' digital.

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But as long as I can play DOOM. doomguy_grin

halcyon bear
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Thsts what matters most brotha!!

still geyser
placid bone
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Bruh did anyone else have a hard time in the train room from the vega mission

shy creek
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But I guess the figma doom slayer looks alright I guess

lone nova
wispy verge
snow heron
halcyon bear
jolly geyser
jolly geyser