Yeah I had found a pretty consistent way to kill the Hell Guards. The second round of the fight against two of them at once is over in 60 seconds if you target down the one that uses the staff with the SSG. Then it's only a few hits on the melee one until it's over.
#doom-2016
untold stirrup
The second phase was actually pretty piss easy because I holo-swapped(albiet very inconsistently LMAO 
) through it with RL, Gauss, and SSG as well as explosive shot
also, PB or SM?
polar lake
Seige Mode all the way. I always save up 9 upgrade tokens so I can instantly start working on the mastery
Took me until my second playthrough to realize how broken that mod is
Basically a mini BFG
Should call it the BFG-8000
untold stirrup
It's always Siege Mode with people I find ;-;
seems as if no one appreciates PB these days
polar lake
Don't get me wrong, I actually love precision bolt, but I can't deny that I usually find seige mode to be more effective. I wish I could have two Gauss Cannons just so I could use both
halcyon bear
Seige mode melts if you know how to time it
elder meadow
@untold stirrup so I did a thing with the Cyberdemon track
And ran it through a spectrogram
Towards the portion that plays in-game at the UAC Facility before you rip out the Argent Accelerator in its chest and go to hell, I played the song and it shows 666 and a pentagram as far as 4, maybe 8 times in counting.
untold stirrup
that's interesting
elder meadow
I have the screenshot as proof
fiery yoke
Ever hear of Slad3?
quartz nebula
Ever hear of Slad3?
I was gonna say this the second I found someone talking about DOOM mixes
snow heron
Towards the portion that plays in-game at the UAC Facility before you rip out th...
If I'm not mistaken this isn't new. This has already been discovered before. Not saying that it isn't cool but it's not new
jolly geyser
wispy verge
Ever hear of Slad3?
nope
elder meadow
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/898609404633546773/898611596761366559/8c1...
I like how doom 2016 mancubis has obesity and in eternal he completed a weight loss program
elder meadow
Anyone knows the fastest way to find players in multiplayer ?
untold stirrup
well...
I completed DOOM 2016
Ultra-Violence
I probably will go back to get all secrets
before starting a Nightmare run
and then after a few NM runs, then UN
elder meadow
Nice
wispy verge
Anyone knows the fastest way to find players in multiplayer ?
such a thing doesnt exist
elder meadow
🧐
halcyon bear
and then after a few NM runs, then UN
Should be good after 2 or 3 I want to do a third first
viral garnet
now that's a channel i gotta add to my list, i like SLAD3 and SPC
which song in particular makes you feel that way?
fiery yoke
I need help getting in a secret room
Go on
fiery yoke
Ah ok
royal chasm
which song in particular makes you feel that way?
I'm basic as hell. I love BFG division, or if we're talking Eternal then I fucking love Meathook
Oh, and The Only Thing They Fear as well as Harbinger
halcyon bear
Cant go wrong with harbinger
frozen wave
How do i get the blue skull
flint dune
How do i get the blue skull
You’re going to have to be more specific. A few levels have skull keys.
fiery hearth
How do I play online? I have the switch.
wispy verge
Ever hear of Slad3?
I dont know man, I just dont like how he puts multiple stems in at the same time
sounds weird
untold stirrup
sounds weird
Sometimes I feel like some parts are gragged on for a bit too long, but Koma is good
I'll listen to metro's mixes rn
frozen wave
You’re going to have to be more specific. A few levels have skull keys.
Can you help me
So in mission 6, that area where you first encounter the Baron of hell
There is a part of the map hidden behind a wall i can't get to
Do you know how to get their
untold stirrup
Do you know how to get their
You could try looking at a yt guide
royal chasm
Do you know how to get their
I do in fact know how to get there
There's a little dark cave nearby with a lever. Pull it
frozen wave
Already did that
royal chasm
Then it's open lmao
frozen wave
Like i said i already did all that
untold stirrup
Is there anyone else who has sucessfully finished UN No HUD besides ChocolateVanille and Byte Me?
No crosshairs too
royal chasm
Probably many who aren't like on YT or whatever
halcyon bear
Go through all that for your own personal glory. I dig it
untold stirrup
Probably many who aren't like on YT or whatever
Most likely
Seems like an interesting challenge
But to actually do that you need to do a few NM no hud runs first
halcyon bear
I'll do that for my third practice. See what it's like
halcyon bear
I did it with wolfenstein for the engima unlock. It's bascailly 100 times more cinematic
untold stirrup
Probably gonna start my first proper NM run tonight
Or should I first get all secrets on my UV run first
I think I skipped a secret in VCP and all secrets in ADN
That last train room in VCP is pretty hard tbh
wispy verge
Is there anyone else who has sucessfully finished UN No HUD besides ChocolateVan...
Not UN but NM personally
It was interesting for sure
viral garnet
I'm basic as hell. I love BFG division, or if we're talking Eternal then I fucki...
lol don't worry about being "too basic" in tastes
it saddens me that there are people out there who look down on that side of doom music fans and gatekeep anyone who doesn't listen to the more electronic+experimental side
wispy verge
I cant aim to begin with and having no crosshair didnt help
viral garnet
I dont know man, I just dont like how he puts multiple stems in at the same time
lol true, it works sometimes but sometimes its just...noise
wispy verge
for me it never really sounded good
wispy verge
Or should I first get all secrets on my UV run first
Go for all secrets NM
untold stirrup
Sure
If I wanted to spice it up I could also do No HUD
100% NM doesn't seem too hard
I know all the secrets in the first 3 levels I think
Just gotta commit to memorizing pretty much the rest
wispy verge
Love how I remember every secret once Im in a level, but I cant remember anything said on a math lesson
untold stirrup
Not UN but NM personally
Oh yeah there are people who have done UN No HUD, I just asked because I could only find 2 people on YT who did it
I could try doing that as my ultimate goal for 2016, buuuut i do want to see if I can get Eternal to run on my default MacBook settings, and if I can, play through that and get through UN
Maybe UN on TAG 1 and 2 as well
wispy verge
Because of the fact that I havent really been able to play Eternal, Im just gonna begin my first actual playthrough on Nightmare
hopefully I get there in the next 50 years
untold stirrup
I'm not totally sure if I can actually even get eternal to run
Because I've seen errors about drivers with Eternal
And the first time I booted up 2016, I was in the 10-20 FPS range
But I mean I had to go into game to adjust the settings
While eternal just has em on the starting menu
halcyon bear
Or should I first get all secrets on my UV run first
Id get the secrets then focus on nightmare and your strategy
untold stirrup
Alright then
Since I didn't get any secrets in Argent D'Nur I can retouch up my skills and actually not kill the Spider Mastermind using the BFG Cheese
Actually, I might master MM and use Siege when I reload a checkpoint to see how much of a difference it makes against the mastermind
Since well...
Sylar did manage to delete a cyberdemon in 7 seconds with double tap BFg tech, RL + Siege and SSG
Alright wtf... ByteMe's FPS Academy strats are so cheese
I love it tbh
autumn tree
But I mean I had to go into game to adjust the settings
Campaign > Any game slot > Settings
You don't have to make a game first. It's just in a weird place
halcyon bear
Since I didn't get any secrets in Argent D'Nur I can retouch up my skills and ac...
I wish I could go full cheese but since I'm recording I'll have to do it with some honor
chrome basin
double bfg is legit imo since it's utilizing intended mechanics. quickswap exploits and such are the true cheese
double bfg is an easy tactic that makes a lot of boss fights trivial, for sure though
using the weapon wheel after firing the bfg on the other hand is so shameful you could never come back from that, lol
halcyon bear
Absolutely shameful. Quickswap takes some skill at least
urban ice
rich merlin
I finally got all my runes and all weapons. Rich get richer and Gauss Cannon are just fucking Op
untold stirrup
I finally got all my runes and all weapons. Rich get richer and Gauss Cannon are...
pair that with equipment power
rich merlin
Now I understand why people talked so much about the Gauss Cannon. Such a cool and powerful weapon
untold stirrup
and probably vacuum, the range of health it caan absorb is frankly pretty good
Ammo Boost is obsolete with RGR
unless you have the mastery rune
which gives BFG ammo
Seek And Destroy is also a busted rune
need to get away from a baron and you see an imp across the room? pull out the chainsaw and chainsaw it lmao
its range is actually busted
well then, time to grind the spider mastermind fight or just get the final secret in VCP and the secrets in ADN to complete DOOM 2016 UV 100%
rich merlin
I just feel like 3-4 weapons are really good and the rest are ok. Maybe I just like too much the micromissiles, SSG, rockets and gauss
untold stirrup
I just feel like 3-4 weapons are really good and the rest are ok. Maybe I just l...
Explosive shot
Stun bomb
Mobile turret
Stun bomb + Siege is busted
Also, BFG increases damage factor against demons for a short time
For those that survive the bfg impact
Like boss monsters
halcyon bear
Stun bomb + Siege is busted
I'm glad you like it 
rich merlin
There's so much i still have to learn to be honest. First playthrough right now. I just finished Titans Realm 😊
untold stirrup
Especially when you pair it with DKSMS...
Sigh
DKSMS, so good yet so bad
It's a love hate relationship
jolly geyser
Because I've seen errors about drivers with Eternal
yeah that shit happened to me
frozen wave
I just finished doom 2016 trying to get as much secret stuff as i could
Now I will move on to Doom Eternal
untold stirrup
Tried to take down the spider mastermind as fast as possible with maximum cheese
took me 1:14 :/
if only I abused the double tap and bfg cheese properly
oh shit i just realized im missing all secrets in necropolis
spice shard
is anyone else really bad at navigating
halcyon bear
No
elder meadow
Well done, now beat it on a harder difficulty
red adder
Guess so lol
Had an absolute blast though, so once my adrenalin levels return from the dangerously high state they're in now I'll start a harder run
snow heron
I think I’m gonna start a DOOM 2016 Brawler Mode run for the hell of it. A new challenge should be fun
supple willow
I have a question for any and all who have the answer
chrome basin
what is the question, heh
untold stirrup
I have a question for any and all who have the answer
what's the question?
supple willow
So I’ve been revisiting DOOM 2016 and I was trying to access the photo mode
I looked in the settings where it should be but it’s not there
supple willow
My question is how do I get it?
untold stirrup
I uh neven messed around with photo mode so I can't really help you, sorry
fiery yoke
Gotta replay a mission to do photo mode
supple willow
Alright that makes sense thanks
fiery yoke
Albeit the photo mode in 2016 is super primitive so don't expect much cool stuff, or any slayer shots as it hide the player model.
halcyon bear
Well done, now beat it on a harder difficulty
steep vector
hello
is there anyone who still plays doom 2016 multiplayer? If so how do I get invited to a server? I tried the "find match" thing but it just rang out.
untold stirrup
is there anyone who still plays doom 2016 multiplayer? If so how do I get invite...
there's basically no one on the multiplayer servers
and for those that are, they're hardcore sweats
snow heron
there's basically no one on the multiplayer servers
I remember when I first got 2016 it was on my Switch so the multiplayer has felt dead to me for a long time
harsh cave
it’s a shame, fun multiplayer
inner raven
Do people still use snapmap at least? I'm shocked that didn't come back for eternal
Anyway, I finished 2016's campaign yesterday. Just need three more weapon masters (Gauss cannon and the remote detonator for the rocket launcher) and finish the challenges and secrets for the last level
flint dune
Do people still use snapmap at least? I'm shocked that didn't come back for eter...
Yeah, but it’s not very lively either. Still fun checking out the cool maps people make, or making your own either way.
It wasn’t included in Eternal because the Developers wanted to put more focus into additional campaign content. Such as the DLCs and Master Levels.
untold stirrup
Anyway, I finished 2016's campaign yesterday. Just need three more weapon master...
remote detonation op
but lock on is better for burst combos
inner raven
Yeah, I used lock on more often.
Just gotta find a good level to grind the masters out. Im having trouble finding a good place tonget three monsters to one shot with it and the gauss cannon
fluid mica
Just gotta find a good level to grind the masters out. Im having trouble finding...
Mid game levels have lots of low level enemies
Otherwise I think there are 3 zombies in a row in the second level, you might need to coax them a bit
inner raven
Yeah. Honestly, this is when the challenges got annoying, you have to wait and line up shots to get them to count
untold stirrup
Just gotta find a good level to grind the masters out. Im having trouble finding...
you know you can reload checkpoints right
you can cheese the masteries because it's saved there individually
it's not part of the level
so just find a good place like in advanced research complex last arena
and then cheese it
that's how I got both the double shot and increased payload masteries
I could've also easily gotten Siege mastery but I don't like Siege
I might make exceptions on either NM or UN though
srsly...
I'll try PB first out on NM
I like it better anyway, I just have to get used to implementing it in combos
it's funny how you can get it in argent tower which is the 4th mission iirc
halcyon bear
If you want perfect vr then 3 is where its at
royal chasm
I heard that didn't adapt well either but it is on my list as well
I don't have oculus because fuck FB but they say you can mod it to work with the Index
halcyon bear
I heard that didn't adapt well either but it is on my list as well
Its perfect with the aim controller
royal chasm
idk what that is
halcyon bear
idk what that is
Its basically a gun
Yeah
I've been playing that shit every day since I got it
Like 3 weeks ago
The fist time I literally just looked out windows and looked at pipes and stuff 
snow heron
It’s the little things in VR that can fuck over a game or make it better
royal chasm
It’s the little things in VR that can fuck over a game or make it better
Oh very much so. Phasmophobia's VR hands are terrible. They are fully static, and the fingers never ever move, and the hands very often do not align with your real hands
Still a fun game but wow it needs a QoL overhaul
snow heron
Oh very much so. Phasmophobia's VR hands are *terrible*. They are fully static, ...
Recently tried VR for the first time I played 2 games one of which was Half-Life Alyx. The level of immersion man…
royal chasm
Alyx is the best VR experience, full stop
snow heron
Alyx is the best VR experience, full stop
I love throwing bottles at source 2 pigeon
royal chasm
Have you ever hit it
untold stirrup
Alyx is the best VR experience, full stop
or Doom 3
royal chasm
I haven't played Doom 3 VR but I am willing to bet a whole dollar that a game specifically designed for a specific headset specifically for VR that has no nonVR option is gonna beat a port of a 2004 game
A nonVR Alyx would be a thoroughly mediocre game
And the player would be wildly OP, because you can move MUCH faster with a mouse and keyboard than you can with VR controllers
And because with mouse and keyboard you can aim way way better
No crosshairs in VR
halcyon bear
I haven't played Doom 3 VR but I am willing to bet a whole dollar that a game sp...
I've played it non stop and like is said I've gone to a few vr arcades. It's better than those
royal chasm
a whole dollar I will bet on this
royal chasm
I'm almost done doom 2. then doom 64 and then doom 3 vr
halcyon bear
The pc version has mods and visual upgrades but the ps version is all around designed in a way that keeps me coming back. I doubt I'll be able to play normal doom 3 again
Anways doom 2016 is my baby
snow heron
Have you ever hit it
Sadly no
polar lake
made it back to Kadingir on UN. Let's see if things go better this time
untold stirrup
nice
halcyon bear
made it back to Kadingir on UN. Let's see if things go better this time
Don't forget to take a break or 2 if needed
polar lake
Don't forget to take a break or 2 if needed
just beat kadingir. furthest I've made it in an UN run. Got here three times before and lost the run. Def time for a breather
untold stirrup
just beat kadingir. furthest I've made it in an UN run. Got here three times bef...
you quickswapping?
polar lake
Oh yes
polar lake
What's holo swapping?
untold stirrup
the fastest swapping method in DOOM
People have deleted first phase cyberdemon in 7 seconds with it
polar lake
Is that the thing with getting the instant charge on siege mode?
untold stirrup
it's so fast that the internal weapon cooldown hardcoded into the game is surpassed by the weapon swapping speed
untold stirrup
Is that the thing with getting the instant charge on siege mode?
that's DKSMS, or Instant Siege Mode
here's the video
polar lake
Thanks! I'll take a look at it and give it a try while I'm practicing the next level
untold stirrup
practice in an empty level or field
and make your you have proper ammo too or have Ammo Boost to chainsaw a foder next time
with the swapping speed, it can chew through ammo
baron of hell deleted in like 2 seconds with holo and mod swapping
at 3:56
steep vector
there's basically no one on the multiplayer servers
it woudl be great to play a multiplayer where everyone is a player, i tried the demon matches in eternal but they require too much extra learning
halcyon bear
Doom 2016 honestly took my controller skills to new levels
Need to start that un recording soon. Keep getting distracted with classic
harsh cave
What's holo swapping?
have you heard of our lord and savior the DKSMS?
gentle mortar
Where do I self promote?
untold stirrup
have you heard of our lord and savior the DKSMS?
he knows about it
viral garnet
Where do I self promote?
#artwork #videos
gentle mortar
thanks
fallen pond
hello im new to this game
molten olive
cool
opal bison
People have deleted first phase cyberdemon in 7 seconds with it
Nice
Bro i keep coming up a few points short for gold no matter how many combos i pull off. Any tips for arcade?
Like literally i came up by 100 points short of gold yesterday
Ive tried everything i can think of.
untold stirrup
Bro i keep coming up a few points short for gold no matter how many combos i pul...
gold? wdym? like in Arcade Mode?
oh yeah I see now, in arcade
I've never actually fiddled with arcade before, but are you supposed to kill demons as fast as possible?
halcyon bear
I've never actually fiddled with arcade before, but are you supposed to kill dem...
If you pull off string combos you get more points
modern rivet
holoswapping out of dksms provides amazing linking potential
royal chasm
holoswapping is too much for me. I'm not THAT into doom lol
modern rivet
it's just one extra input
halcyon bear
Yeah its not that complicated
modern rivet
1 extra input and you get to do this https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/504714848194527236/900046210436571226/hs.mp4
halcyon bear
Melt
chrome basin
been a while since i did arcade, but i know you can get slayer (hidden rank higher than gold) without any cheese, and with simple normal quickswapping
don't use bfg since you won't get more than one bonus medal from all those kills, and if you kill everything at once it'll stop new stuff from spawning i think
and if you're about to finish a section before moving on to the next one, try to leave something alive near the exit and then stack the speed runes before glory killing it, then you'll have more time to speed to the next section to continue the chain bonus on the next smallfry you see
i did my slayer run on UN and without any exploits, so it's certainly possible
you get more points on higher difficulties, you want to get as many medals as possible for each kill (which usually means stunning and headshotting them, iirc), you want to get the relic bonuses immediately for max points (there's a glitch where they can pass through walls/floors at max fps, so limit your fps to 180 at the most via rtss or something), and you def want to keep your chain bonus going
halcyon bear
Actually haven't tried it on UN. Smart though. I think I'll give it a go in a bit
elder meadow
So, I've been playing doom 2016 for a while, and I wanna check how long I've been playing, but, not only xbox doesnt track the playtime of this game, but I checked in the save file and it only says at what date I last played, but it doesnt say how many hours ive been playing this (and exophase doesnt track that, either). What can I do to check the playtime of doom 2016? 🤔
halcyon bear
Honestly for console I kept personal track. I'm sure I'm still off a 100 hours or so when I forgot. I think the new consoles tell you though. Other than that I think you're out of luck. Maybe try to remember how many playthroughs you've done
royal chasm
I have about 100, maybe 150 hours in doom 16. Fuckin love that game. But I'm coming up on 300 in Eternal now lmao
halcyon bear
Nice ! Love to see it
untold stirrup
I think I have about 24 hours into the game
royal chasm
The combat loop in eternal is just nearly perfect
halcyon bear
Last time I remember it was maybe 1800 but I'm off by alot either for or against because I did a binge with my cousin one weekend
untold stirrup
holoswapping is too much for me. I'm not THAT into doom lol
it's not too complicated but on UN it could make a really big difference, it's just getting it consistent
royal chasm
It took me a solid year just to figure out weapon swap at all
halcyon bear
I've been playing 2016 since 2016. I played once a week since then except this little while with my classic stuff getting in the way
halcyon bear
It took me a solid year just to figure out weapon swap at all
First time I started playing I barely switched at all
royal chasm
My first playthrough I got the mastery for mobile turret and said "ok cool I'm done"
Now I never even touch mobile turret, I hate it lol
Actually I never use the chaingun in '16 at all
halcyon bear
There's a few things in 2016 you don't really need to use but are pretty fun. Chaingun is one of them
fluid mica
Yeah, honestly I will never care to minmax how I play
I just want to play to have fun
royal chasm
I was so embarrassed. I was playing Eternal on nightmare and died twice in cultist base. Deleted the save file and restarting that run lol
fluid mica
I’ll beat ultra nightmare having fun, not gaming the system
When I started eternal I wasn’t having fun with the ammo stuff so I just bumped down the difficulty, which I think actually made it less enjoyable rather than fix any of my problems
royal chasm
One of the biggest issues transitioning from 16 to Eternal is that in 16 the chainsaw is the Crucible and not an ammo source, because ammo pickups are so plentiful
But if you just forget the idea of chainsawing Heavy Demons and only do like imps and stuff, you'll be fine
fluid mica
Yeah I figured that out, I just don’t really like it
But eh, not much we can do about it now
royal chasm
One real strength of Eternal though is that you get all the weapons and mods by Taras Nabad
So you have nekravol, nekravol 2, urdak, and final sin all as a god tier slayer with like, only 1 or 2 masteries you haven't finished
In 16 I felt like I was still grinding runes and weapon masteries right up until the last level
fluid mica
That’s an RPG argument lmao
Specialization for the whole game vs jack of all trades by the end
scarlet pewter
Hey I really wanted to try the multiplayer. Whats the best way to actually find a match?
fluid mica
Buy a time machine
scarlet pewter
Damn rip
jolly geyser
lmfao
halcyon bear
Truth
wispy verge
that is indeed the truth
untold stirrup
So, tried UAC Nightmare today
Apparently imp fireballs can do 80+ damage
Lmao
Had like 87 health 3 armor
1 shotted by a fireball
Yeah, this really is the "i fucking hate imps" difficulty
torpid swallow
I beat the game on Nightmare with only the pistol. Took hundreds of deaths and over a year lmao.
Also, I'm trying to get the last of the mp achievements and I need a fourth. If anyone's up for it sometime this week, @ me.
halcyon bear
I beat the game on Nightmare with only the pistol. Took hundreds of deaths and o...
Congrats
torpid swallow
Thank you. The worst enemies were cacodemons and cyber-mancubi. Everything else you get used to dealing with pretty easily.
halcyon bear
I hope you got a caco spin death or 2
untold stirrup
speaking of cacodemons...
when you drop down the skull in necropolis, if you don't double jump to cushion your landing, you'll play the impact compensation animation while the cacodemons are still shooting at you, so there is a high chance you might die
happened to me the first time
I was so annoyed
halcyon bear
Pin that message for UN playthroughs hahah
river oriole
I hate archvile
Most hated enemy
Wait this is the 2016 chat
I'm pre-ordered 2016
languid sparrow
I don't remember anything from 2016
halcyon bear
I don't remember anything from 2016
You have guns. Kill demons
languid sparrow
Oh that's right
untold stirrup
ye
or for a totally accurate summary, a robot named sussmuel gayden starts experimenting with hell, it fucks him over, you have guns and you kill invading demons until sussmuel gayden betrays you and takes the weird red lightsaber which is apparently an infinite source of hell energy
shy creek
Unpopular Opinion: I prefer Doom 2016's praetor suit to Doom Eternal's praetor suit
untold stirrup
eh not really unpopular
quartz mauve
I think everyone likes the 2016 suit better
shy creek
ok then
here's a slightly more unpopular opinion
Doom 2016 soundtrack > Doom Eternal soundtrack
faint cradle
what level are you guys I am only 24 in multiplayer
untold stirrup
I think everyone likes the 2016 suit better
not really, there are some who like the eternal suit
untold stirrup
Doom 2016 soundtrack > Doom Eternal soundtrack
that may be pushing it a bit but understandable
shy creek
but keep in mind, its only a smidge better cause both are incredible
halcyon bear
Both suits are great
Classic 64 2016 eternal. They all are amazing suits
Eternal suit is 2016 mixed with predator. Can't go wrong with 2 things I love
shy creek
and also some elements from the classic suit
i just prefer the shade of green from the 2016 suit
halcyon bear
Oh it's a great green color for sure
shy creek
Always prefer darker shades of green
wispy verge
when you drop down the skull in necropolis, if you don't double jump to cushion ...
Never happened to me personally
They were always just starting to peek out from behind the rocks
shy creek
Rip and tear is the best music in video james
wispy verge
Ill have to disagree ngl
fickle spear
so i reinstalled doom 2016 to play its multiplayer but im running into problems and would like to know if anyone can help,
- If I use Vulkan my screen flashes white but i have constant 200FPS
- If I use OpenGL the performance is more than just poor around 40FPS
- If I use either one and then pick up the Demonrune my game goes down to 5FPS
shy creek
Go for the 2nd option
shy creek
...o
fickle spear
1 with vulkan 2 with opengl and 3 with either one
and as you can imagine none of those are good for the multiplayer
wispy verge
DDU your GPU and install the latest driver maybe?
viral garnet
Doom 2016 soundtrack > Doom Eternal soundtrack
i mean there is no doom eternal soundtrack so
wispy verge
;-;
wispy verge
we dont talk about that
fickle spear
DDU your GPU and install the latest driver maybe?
updating my driver didnt work sadly
do you have other ideas how i can fix it?
viral garnet
https://imgur.com/a/rDJsWLE
not real
viral garnet
https://imgur.com/a/rDJsWLE
"lossless" 😭 we lost more than music quality
halcyon bear
not real
How is it not real. And the quality is amazing. Trust me. Me and my speakers know
Would have been better as a USB like sigil though
viral garnet
How is it not real. And the quality is amazing. Trust me. Me and my speakers kno...
mixing
ancient comet
Doom 2016 soundtrack > Doom Eternal soundtrack
yes
ancient comet
not really, there are some who like the eternal suit
i like the eternal suit more cuz it looks more cocky and '90 i guess
spikes are cool
But you know what nobody likes about doom eternal?
The beggining speech
Y'know king novik 'n' stuff
But really it was so boring
The doom 2016 was simple and short, and that made it so menacing and savage.
"They are rage... Brutal... Without mercy... But you... You will be worse"
Are words that make you fall from your chair
Followed up by rip and tear until its done
shy creek
Doom eternal may be the better game, but I like aspects of doom 2016 a little bit more
Such as the way secrets are spread in the levels. They feel more part of the world as opposed to doom eternal’s more cartoony question mark secrets
ancient comet
Overall they scratched the whole horror from eternal
There is nothing scary about it
Doom 2016 had still some horror aspects
shy creek
Ain’t necessarily a bad thing, cause doom is more known for its action than its horror
ancient comet
Yeah
shy creek
Can be scary sometimes tho
ancient comet
Like i played doom 3 today and i see exacly what they were mainly going for
Which is horror and not action
Vice versa for doom '16 and eternal
ancient comet
Such as the way secrets are spread in the levels. They feel more part of the wor...
Tho secrets are kinda dum in '16
shy creek
Yea, but they feel more like a part of the world
ancient comet
True
shy creek
I also find the animations in doom 2016 a little bit better than eternal
ancient comet
In what sense? Do you mean glory kills or cutscenes? Or both?
shy creek
In what sense? Do you mean glory kills or cutscenes? Or both?
Glory kills and death animations
Especially the berserk animations, my god
ancient comet
Ohhoho yeah don't even get me started on this
The only thing that eternal does better then 2016 is the gameplay
And that an important thing
The most important thing in a game is gameplay offcourse
ancient comet
Yeah skins are in eternal now lol
But they are not stupid dumb shid like in fortnite where you buy cosmetics for real money
shy creek
Well you can now, but those were old skins that couldn’t be accessed again after the season ended
Plus, it’s optional and purely cosmetic, so it’s fine
crimson shoal
@late olive
ancient comet
Mhm i guess ur right
crimson shoal
I’d like to inform you that there is a discord using your games logo as their logo
shy creek
ok, but why would you ping an admin?
crimson shoal
ok, but why would you ping an admin?
Idk
late olive
- They're allowed to do that? 2) I don't even have any ownership of Doom?
late olive
shy creek
...o
late olive
Please don't ping me for that
crimson shoal
Sorry boss
ancient comet
hm well that was interesting
sleek herald
Whaat
halcyon bear
viral garnet
But they are not stupid dumb shid like in fortnite where you buy cosmetics for r...
flashes back to doomguy dabbing in doom 2016
viral garnet
https://tenor.com/view/doom-dab-doomguy-gaming-knee-dab-gif-16618904
genuinely saddens me that this is real
viral garnet
lord
untold stirrup
languid sparrow
A sad fate for such a fun multiplayer
native star
Lol
clever stone
A few days ago, I started playing Doom 2016.
viral garnet
god
clever stone
It's not too hard, but it's a really good reimagining of Doom!
viral garnet
It's not too hard, but it's a really good reimagining of Doom!
have you played eternal yet?
clever stone
I ran it just to see how it looks and runs on my new computer.
viral garnet
lots of people complained about 2016 being easy on release
clever stone
I think I'm about halfway through 2016.
I decided to start on nightmare difficulty.
viral garnet
lots of people complained about 2016 being easy on release
presumably john carmack's soul possessed hugo martin at that point to make eternal harder than sandy petersen when he sees a squid
clever stone
I've just been doing a level or two a day. It's fun.
lone nova
guys can anyone give me tips to increase fps in doom 2016 ?
clever stone
What are you running it on?
lone nova
integrated graphics (dont judge)
clever stone
Well, what kind of processor?
steel moon
gotta work with what you got after all
untold stirrup
every setting on low is an easy way to get fps
steel moon
Intel?
lone nova
ye , I have already done that stuff like lowest settings , vulkan , 720p
lone nova
third, use console commands
oh
untold stirrup
ye , I have already done that stuff like lowest settings , vulkan , 720p
720p not low enough
viral garnet
ye , I have already done that stuff like lowest settings , vulkan , 720p
isn't vulkan more graphically intensive than open gl
steel moon
you'll probably need to force it lower than 720
untold stirrup
isn't vulkan more graphically intensive than open gl
NOPE!
lone nova
isn't vulkan more graphically intensive than open gl
I had read vulkan gives more fps
untold stirrup
Vulkan is a much better processor than OpenGL
viral garnet
oh wait im on drugs my bad
lone nova
you'll probably need to force it lower than 720
hmm ik but the problem is the black bars
untold stirrup
then get used to em, oh well 
lone nova
lmao
viral garnet
also is it just me or does doom eternal run better than 2016
steel moon
is borderless windowed mode a thing on eternal
lone nova
also is it just me or does doom eternal run better than 2016
no not for the ppl using intel lmao
lone nova
is borderless windowed mode a thing on eternal
ye ig
clever stone
I run Eternal with RTX, so I can't comment. Runs worse on that front.
untold stirrup
also is it just me or does doom eternal run better than 2016
it has a purely vulkan processor from the start
no OpenGL
viral garnet
also is it just me or does doom eternal run better than 2016
i've noticed it makes my pc heat up a lot less than 2016 which is the universal measurement for graphical intensity
untold stirrup
and to give yall a bit on insight, this is my game, run on all default mac settings, everything on low, + a few console commands and vsync disabled
steel moon
if it is you maybe able to force the game to fill the screen if the res js still 16 by 9
untold stirrup
steel moon
worth it
lone nova
if it is you maybe able to force the game to fill the screen if the res js still...
ohhh yes I forgor there is an option to keep the aspect ratio the same 💀
untold stirrup
also, use these console commands
vt_filter 0
vt_maxaniso 1
jobs_numthreads 4(or 2, it depends on how many cores you have)
r_shadowAtlasWidth 32
r_imageAtlasMaxAniso 1
steel moon
for that much fps I'd sell my soul to the super shot gun when I get eternal
lone nova
vt_filter 0
vt_maxaniso 1
jobs_numthreads 4(or 2, it depends on how many cores y...
ok thank you
untold stirrup
decreasing the shadows can really help
which is what r_shadowAtlasWidth 32 does
it gets rid of most shadows
and it doesn't affect the game much at all aesthetic wise
clever stone
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/854794877594501143/891666637646876709/202...
How did you send an image?
untold stirrup
How did you send an image?
send it as a discord link, which then embeds it as a message
untold stirrup
hm, destroyed facility, correct?
clever stone
Yeah
wispy verge
The giga chad way of playing
left flint
I am probably the only person that uses demo
wispy verge
yes
open girder
just installed 2016 on xbox one. here we go
elder meadow
Anybody else on PC/Steam had issues with screenshotting in the game? When I pressed the F12 button the game just went weird and its like all the lighting in the scene went off lol
polar lake
Just beat ARC on UN. Think this may actually be the run
polar lake
I'm taking it nice and slow. Gonna practice the rest of the levels a lot before I make a real attempt on each of them
halcyon bear
Great idea. You got this
unborn glacier
anyone still play the multiplayer of 2016?
languid sparrow
If I still had 2016, I would be
elder meadow
well, I was trying to get all the achievements recently. got lv 200 in 6h today. (and enough for almost all mp achievements, except that 2 that need a lot of xp grind)
there were some people on the european server, also after a while (like, 2 hours ago) i found some guys on the american server
dusk dirge
Doom 2016 is on gamepass should I get?
elder meadow
yes
wispy verge
doom
brisk coral
Anybody else on PC/Steam had issues with screenshotting in the game? When I pres...
happened to me
olive acorn
@brave gate
visual willow
Not sure if this belongs more in this channel or eternal’s channel but if I am correct 2016’s last update was 6.66?
So does that mean 6.66 may be the last update for eternal too or was that just a coincidence or sumn
Sorry if it’s a stupid question or already been disclosed by Bethesda because I don’t really keep up to date on development a lot
royal chasm
So does that mean 6.66 may be the last update for eternal too or was that just a...
Eternal is much much more popular than 16 was, and it's much more replayable. As long as id is making money, they'll keep updating
viral garnet
the next doom game is gonna be in a super-duper long time anyways so i expect the service for it to last significantly longer
halcyon bear
Then there's me who can keep playing 2016 like it came out yesterday
jolly geyser
Me too
wispy verge
we dont even know if their next game will be doom or not
Tbh Id rather have a Quake remake right now than another Doom game
halcyon bear
Id put money on that
wispy verge
I really want to see what id would come up with for it
flint dune
I agree, I’d like to see iD shift focus to another IP for a bit. As much as I love the Doom franchise.
jolly geyser
Yeah it would be cool if id shifted its focus on Sonic
wispy verge
yes 🗿
viral garnet
catacombs 3D 2 WHEN id???
halcyon bear
I agree, I’d like to see iD shift focus to another IP for a bit. As much as I lo...
Maybe work on the next doom take your time but have the next release quake reboot
flint dune
Yeah, that’d be nice.
polar lake
Got the Cyberdemon glory kill bug earlier practicing Lazarus Labs. I swear if that happens during my UN run...
untold stirrup
so it wouldn't glory kill?
smoky tinsel
My bad
modest jay
@unborn glacier I’ve never gotten to play with real people
I don’t have a eternal I’ve Beaten the campaign and I don’t know what to do I really enjoy 2016 but no one plays the multiplayer anymore
unborn glacier
<@335896288396574731> I’ve never gotten to play with real people
Then wanna friend up on steam to play?
modest jay
Yes
I don’t have a mic that works though
So i cant vc in Anything
Even the mic on my phone doesn’t work
But yes
@unborn glacier What is your user name you can DM me
Um ok
unborn glacier
sorry was in a game
unborn glacier
<@335896288396574731> What is your user name you can DM me
same name
modest jay
Ok
polar lake
so it wouldn't glory kill?
Yeah, it's leg flashes and when change color when I'm close enough, but I never get the action prompt nor does using the actual key do anything, so you can never kill it. I've seen clips of it happening on the Mastermind but never experienced it before.
polar lake
Yeah, after about 10 or so seconds
untold stirrup
breh
polar lake
And staggering it again didn't fix
untold stirrup
that's so annoying
polar lake
Thankfully it was just a practice run on a different save file
untold stirrup
can you reload checkpoints on UN? I'm pretty sure not
untold stirrup
smh
elder meadow
@unborn glacier oh it was you 
i was playing with you like 10 min ago
I rejected your friend request sorry
halcyon bear
Luckily by the time you're doing un the game won't take you to long anyways
modest jay
@unborn glacier are You still up to play
unborn glacier
Kinda tired but Ill send you a message later or tomorrow
flint dune
Got the Cyberdemon glory kill bug earlier practicing Lazarus Labs. I swear if th...
Yep, happened to me with the Spider-Mastermind on UN. I just force closed the game. I’d say that tactic is justifiable when the game unavoidably screws you over. Any other time I’d be against it.
If you didn’t know. Force closing on UN acts as a crash, so your game will be saved to the last checkpoint.
Again I wouldn’t use this unless you get softlocked or something. It’s better to do UN legit, cheesing it brings no satisfaction.
untold stirrup
cheesing
holo-swapping?
flint dune
Well, if you consider that cheesing.
I’m mostly talking about game breaking glitches and bypasses.
halcyon bear
If the game fucks you I don't see a cheese as a bad thing in that circumstance
ionic mesa
Does anyone have any idea how to equip the bfg9000? I managed to kill the spider mastermind without the bfg but now it won't let me do the glory kill because it won't let me equip the weapon.
languid sparrow
...you don't need to equip the weapon
It's scripted that Doomguy gets the bfg out and kills the Mastermind
ionic mesa
But he won't let me kill him !!
I mean, it's stuck there and I hit the e and it doesn't kill it, it doesn't do anything
Oh god it's resolved, restart the game and it's unlocked
God made me sweat for a moment
🤣
Thanks also
wispy verge
Got the Cyberdemon glory kill bug earlier practicing Lazarus Labs. I swear if th...
One time I had to kill it like 5 or 6 times because I was a dumbass and kept pressing E instead of F
didnt die though pog
untold stirrup
I mean, it's stuck there and I hit the e and it doesn't kill it, it doesn't do a...
You do realize that E is not the glory kill button right?
It's F
Unless your rebound it to the E key
And the BFG 9000 cutscene happens automatically
You don't need to equip the BFG for it
Idk where you got that idea from
jolly geyser
that's honestly weird
halcyon bear
I must have a blessed copy of 2016
jolly geyser
the only bugs that I encountered throughout the game were:
- Imp firing balls from behind a wall
- Wicked Cyberdemon - Pretending to be in the idle animation until I get real close to him
- Confused Imp - Stuck in the middle of the battlefield for no reason and can't reach you
halcyon bear
the only bugs that I encountered throughout the game were:
1. Imp firing balls ...
Number 2 is my favorite scenario. I've got my own head canon for that
jolly geyser
lmfaooo you don't know the disappointment I felt when it happened, but at the same time it was incredibly funny
halcyon bear
wispy verge
the only bugs that I encountered throughout the game were:
1. Imp firing balls ...
I would love to see the second lmao
polar lake
If you didn’t know. Force closing on UN acts as a crash, so your game will be sa...
What, with alt f4?
chrome basin
aside from the railing boost bug killing me a few times before i realized to stay away from railings, and clipping through the floor once while going too fast (glory kill speed/distance runes) on arcade (i managed to save the run by glory killing a new target to clip back through to solid ground), the main bug i recall is a specific hell knight in the last level often having absurdly high health in like 1/3 of my runs
would take like 3 minutes to kill. i was worried it would happen during my 100% UN run, but it's not really dangerous, just time-consuming
flint dune
What, with alt f4?
Any way of force closing. So yes.
wispy verge
only used it once lol
its better to try to not get yourself into shitty situations
dying is like one of the things that lets you know you just got into one
polar lake
Yeah I really just wanted it for security during the boss fights
Four more levels and the torment will finally be over
Think I've spent the last 100 in game hours attempting UN
I'm so tired 😩
wispy verge
Think I've spent the last 100 in game hours attempting UN
I have around 48 minutes to go until I get to 100
polar lake
oh youre doing UN?
Yeah, it's been rough
But the drive has been strong lately
I feel good about this run, but it's still stressful
wispy verge
yeah I get why you would want saving throw there lmao
what other runes do you use normally?
halcyon bear
But the drive has been strong lately
Don't forget about those breaks super important
polar lake
what other runes do you use normally?
Equipment Power, Ammo Boost, and In Flight Mobility
Also Rich Get Richer
Will swap out In Flight Mobility for it for certain fights
polar lake
Don't forget about those breaks super important
Oh no doubt. I had taken about a month long break from Doom at one point
Also important to get mastery for all of them
Since you get BFG ammo from demons with the Ammo Boost mastery
And the siphon grenade combined with equipment Power makes it easy to get full health and Ammo quickly to exploit rich get richer
wispy verge
Equipment Power, Ammo Boost, and In Flight Mobility
I usually use like almost the same set, I dont remember what I usually use instead of Equipment Power though
In my current run I started trying out more runes and got a more health oriented set down. (Equipment Power/Savagery/Seek and Destory) Kinda want to make it my full time set now ngl
Seek and Destroy is just straight up OP
polar lake
I really like the rune that gives you a speed boost on glory kill, but I just don't glory kill enough in UN to make it worth it
Can be great otherwise. Basically perma-haste
halcyon bear
Definitely not worth it on un. If I do glory kill its when I know I have the arena secure anyways
polar lake
Yep
halcyon bear
Rich is cheese for sure. That's a good plan if you're just trying to smash un
polar lake
Yeah I still find myself preferring in flight mobility over rich get richer
wispy verge
my main issue with RGR is that I just cant keep myself above 100 armour
even with siphon
although I just started using that
polar lake
It's pretty easy to get the mastery shortly after getting it though. Can use a single possessed soldier and let it clip you, then siphon until full
Rinse and repeat 12 times
untold stirrup
Seek and destroy is literally broken
You need to get away from a baron? Chainsaw that imp in the distance lmao
wispy verge
Seek and destroy is literally broken
I feel like doom 2016 as a whole is
halcyon bear
my main issue with RGR is that I just cant keep myself above 100 armour
Thats were target finding is super important at the start of a fight especially on nightmare. You want to clear those easy targets fast with rich and get those pick ups before you take any damage
untold stirrup
I'll finally be able to play some more tmr and continue my NM run from UAC
polar lake
Niiiiice
untold stirrup
Imp are literally super heavies with the amount of damage they deal
halcyon bear
I'll finally be able to play some more tmr and continue my NM run from UAC
Nice! Yeah I finally have free time again too
untold stirrup
They're like the revenants of D2, absolute fucking glass cannons
halcyon bear
Dev rounds man. They have a actual purpose when it comes to imps
Its not a popular choice I know
polar lake
Imp are literally super heavies with the amount of damage they deal
So many UN runs lost to sniping imps
wispy verge
I'll finally be able to play some more tmr and continue my NM run from UAC
The achievements are killing me
where the fuck are those 1 or 2 codex entries I missed
lets not even talk about the challenges, ugh
untold stirrup
So many UN runs lost to sniping imps
At least in Eternal they only lead shots when the movement becomes predictable after a while but in 2016, no
They literally take the player's next position immediately and automatically throw their fireballs
1 or 2 seconds of moving left? Fireball thrown to the left
halcyon bear
If you stop you're fucked. You need to keep moving and have the arena movement planned. You'll get snipped so fast if you stop to think of a plan
untold stirrup
Yeah
I might just cheese NM the way I'll cheese UN
Or maybe not, since I do have checkpoints
halcyon bear
Well I mean you're not recording it or anything so why not
untold stirrup
Or maybe I am 👀
wispy verge
oh yes I want to see that juicy low quality 4:3 gameplay
halcyon bear
If you are make sure to post it when you're done. Love to see runs and how they're different from me
untold stirrup
oh yes I want to see that juicy low quality 4:3 gameplay
More of that coming lol
untold stirrup
Like that first cyberdemon fight that I posted
Died to an overextension of melee attack LMAO
wispy verge
Shamelessly skipped the first gore nest on Resource Ops
oh god I actually cant remember it
wispy verge
Died to an overextension of melee attack LMAO
gotta love random deaths
halcyon bear
Like that first cyberdemon fight that I posted
I subbed to you already right?
untold stirrup
Think so
polar lake
oh god I actually cant remember it
Lots of explosive barrels, still only have your Shotgun. So many fireballs and soldier charged shots flying around
untold stirrup
I might actually try to practice UAC several times over and post a no death run of the full level
Once I get it down
polar lake
Nah, I'll just jump on this rail and climb up to the next area
untold stirrup
Explosive barrels...
wispy verge
Lots of explosive barrels, still only have your Shotgun. So many fireballs and s...
The one with the elevator after? yeah....
untold stirrup
I take Barrels O' Fun upgrade for serious granted
polar lake
The one with the elevator after? *yeah....*
Yep
untold stirrup
I stood just barely 1 foot outside of the blast range
polar lake
I take Barrels O' Fun upgrade for serious granted
Always upgrade that first
untold stirrup
Died due to barrel explosion
untold stirrup
Always upgrade that first
Yeah i spent my first token into environment upgrades
Environment damage is NO JOKE
wispy verge
The Lost Soul's charge sound is literally one of the scariest things in a game for me
untold stirrup
Chaos blitz?
Yep
halcyon bear
Gotcha
untold stirrup
I hate lost losts but they aren't as annoying than in classic to me
halcyon bear
Yeah but man I love 2016 lost souls so much more than classic haha
untold stirrup
At least you can blow em away eith a single shotgun blast
wispy verge
The Lost Soul's charge sound is literally one of the scariest things in a game f...
Im just having my fun then boom
an exploding skull in my face killing me/taking 3/4ths of my health
untold stirrup
And they're basically mobile barrels
Launch em into a group of fodder, explosion
Lost souls in classic though, absolute assholes
I can rant about them all day
halcyon bear
Truth
wispy verge
Launch em into a group of fodder, explosion
thats a thing? wow
untold stirrup
But D2016 lost souls? Nah, they're pretty fine
wispy verge
From what Ive seen, in Eternal its like Lost Souls dont even exist
untold stirrup
thats a thing? wow
Yeah, you remember that challenge where you have to kill another lost soul with a lost soul
wispy verge
always hated that
untold stirrup
That's bc explosions
wispy verge
never understood how I managed to get it
untold stirrup
I think even using blast damage from a lost soul to kill another lost soul is possible
To achieve that challenge
halcyon bear
From what Ive seen, in Eternal its like Lost Souls dont even exist
They definitely do and pain elementals too
untold stirrup
Since the blast is part of the lost souls's physiology
wispy verge
They definitely do and pain elementals too
From what Ive seen they get spawned in by them and do... nothing?
untold stirrup
From what Ive seen they get spawned in by them and do... nothing?
They explode as well
polar lake
Anyone else kinda feel bad for killing Pinkies in 2016? There like little puppies that just wanna play? Probably my favorite demon
untold stirrup
The pain elemental actually throws em from what i remember
One of the PE's attacks is throwing lost souls onto the ground to act as landmines
Get near one and boom, like 50 damage
halcyon bear
Anyone else kinda feel bad for killing Pinkies in 2016? There like little puppie...
Love their design but enjoy killing them. And specs
wispy verge
I dont know, probably the fact that I havent really played Eternal in ages
definitely not on anything higher than HMP too
polar lake
Love their design but enjoy killing them. And specs
Yeah it's definitely fun to out maneuver them
I could see Slayer keeping one as a pet
untold stirrup
Pinkies are easy to take care of using remote detonation
untold stirrup
I love remote det better than Lock On but lock on has its use in rapid dps combos
untold stirrup
Shoot a rocket, lock on, shoot 3 more rockets, then 1 last rocket
polar lake
Yup
untold stirrup
5 rocket barrage
wispy verge
Lock On is just more satisfying to use for me
untold stirrup
I wonder, how would playing the first arena in eternal like 2016 be
No mods at all, no double jump
wispy verge
especially because of those rapid fire combos, my god
halcyon bear
Rocket hit shotgun Nad hit troll with the dev rounds for fun fuck the glory kill
untold stirrup
Remote Detonation is better in terms of pure damage though, since lock on is actually weaker than standard unmodded rockets
halcyon bear
Remote definitely is superior
wispy verge
love my RL mod journey
lock on -> remote det -> situational
untold stirrup
The two mods are definitely situational
I'd equip remote detonation most of the time
Against a single tanky enemy like a baron i might use lock on for a rapid combo
wispy verge
Are there any mod swap animation skips?
ancient comet
Remote i use more frequently
untold stirrup
Are there any mod swap animation skips?
Yes, with mod swapping
Shoot a weapon, press the mod switch button, then immeditaly switch over to another weapon
The weapon you mod swapped on will have the next mod in line equipped
polar lake
Yeah I've learned the way of the remote detonation
untold stirrup
Like a CSG and plasma rifle combo
crude bluff
Remote Detonation is better in terms of pure damage though, since lock on is act...
Really?
halcyon bear
Bleed definitely helps and if it stacks you're in business
crude bluff
Wow
wispy verge
Shoot a weapon, press the mod switch button, then immeditaly switch over to anot...
iirc Eternal has this thing where you can swap mods from the Weapon Wheel
is that not present here?
crude bluff
Imma be honest I have never used remote detonation in both 2016 and Eternal
untold stirrup
It takes 6 locked on rockets to kill a hell knight
crude bluff
Lol
untold stirrup
With remote detonation and fully upgraded, it takes 2 to kill one
1 even if you have "External Payload" mastery
Which fires an extra rocket for the cost of 1
I tested this in foundry since I knew there were a lot of hell knights in that level
halcyon bear
I was going to say one should do it and even with out that a switch to shotgun can do the trick
ancient comet
for combos i always do triple shot from shotgun and ssg shot
i do that on revenants
untold stirrup
Micro missiles are best for finishers
You can just spam em on a demon and then focus on another one
Because it'll eventually kill it
polar lake
Mastered micro missiles plus rich get richer makes for a fun time
untold stirrup
True
untold stirrup
For revenants, I remember doing heat blast + ssg
Or explosive shot + SSG
Or rocket launcher + ssg
elder meadow
Oh my god why does the Snapmap feature take so long to looaaddd
crude bluff
Micro Missiles + SSG + Guass Canon
wispy verge
Mastered micro missiles plus rich get richer makes for a fun time
with some Overdrive mixed in(or whatever the power up's name is)
untold stirrup
Or even just DKSMS lmao
crude bluff
The Baron combo for me was always Micro Missiles + Guass + Rockets
untold stirrup
Automatically kills a revenant
ancient comet
Or even just DKSMS lmao
tf is a DKSMS
crude bluff
Hmm grenades as well
ancient comet
Donkey kong SMS?
wispy verge
for combos i always do triple shot from shotgun and ssg shot
That takes em out? I always just do double SSG + ballista
untold stirrup
Named after Dreamer-King, who was the one who brought it up to attention to the doom community
You hold down the alt fore button on another weapon
ancient comet
That takes em out? I always just do double SSG + ballista
it works for me at least
untold stirrup
Switch over to gauss cannon equipped with siege mode
Right before the gauss cannon finishes swapping, press the fire key
Automatically fires a fully charged Siege Mode shot
Without the movement penalty
ancient comet
holy shid
untold stirrup
I have examples of it's usage in one of my videos
wispy verge
it works for me at least
man Revenants in modern doom are fucking pathetic
ancient comet
truth 100
untold stirrup
wispy verge
mmm dat gameplay doe
untold stirrup
I use DKSMS nearly everytime I pull out the gauss cannon
halcyon bear
Switch over to gauss cannon equipped with siege mode
And that stun
wispy verge
I feel like doom 2016 as a whole is
.
ancient comet
good
wispy verge
doom 2016 but balanced wen?
ancient comet
i find myself dying more in doot 2016 then in doot eternal
idk what do people mean when they say "eTeRnAl Is HaRd"
if that's hard play '16 dude
at least before you get siege mode
and double ssg shot
but even then
glory killing is so fricking dumb
wispy verge
if that's hard play '16 dude
its not really hard doe
ancient comet
whn i glory kill for health instantly after the glory kill someone thorws a fireball at me and i fricking die
unable to defend myself
wispy verge
its not really hard doe
like me with my shitty aim and muscle memory can get along on NM with the worse mods fine
untold stirrup
unable to defend myself
Blood fueled or savagery, my man
Run away fast enough or not give them enough time to charge a fireball
ancient comet
huh
that works?
untold stirrup
Yeah
My rune getup is usually Savagery, SAD, and Ammo Boost
Since I play aggressively and with no RGR(I dont like it) i chainsaw regularly or to get out of a stick situation for IFs
ancient comet
Mine is Seek and destroy, Dazed and confused and Rich get Richer
untold stirrup
Yeah, Seek And Destroy or SAD as i like to call it for short
SAD is wack with its reach
You can chainsaw stuff like half an arena away
Blood Fueled also activates on a chainsaw kill
So if you have SAD and Blood Fueled, you can get some IFs to take a break, then get out fast enough to not get hit
ancient comet
I was thinking about the plasma rifle stun bomb being able to be combo'd when doing ssg + guass
like you ssg guass a baron and when he jumps at you you stun bomb him so you don't get hit
halcyon bear
Stun a seige is a great combo
polar lake
Stun a seige is a great combo
Stun a seige is a great combo
wispy verge
very
ancient comet
~~Stun a~~ seige is ~~a~~ great ~~combo~~
we know
wispy verge
siege headshotting Hell Knights is very poggers
halcyon bear
Thats hot
sleek knot
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polar lake
Seige makes me pog my pants
untold stirrup
I was thinking about the plasma rifle stun bomb being able to be combo'd when do...
Funny thing
Using the plasma rifle's rate of fire + stun bomb you can holo swap into DKSMS for huge damage
Then proceed to holo swap out of DKSMS
And absolutely destroy anything
untold stirrup
This is why I have a love/hate relationship with Siege Mode
Holo swapping is great tho
polar lake
Yeah I gave holo swapping a try. The only issue for me is the key bindings I have set up aren't optimal for that. Gotta stretch my pinky to get the equipment button, so don't that constantly would probably start to hurt after a while
And I'm worried about trying to mess with my bindings and then muscle memory taking over at the wrong spot
chrome basin
your issue is not with siege mode
it is with manipulating an unintended exploit for instant-siege fire
there's a difference
it's bizarre you complain about one such technique while worshipping the other
halcyon bear
This is why I have a love/hate relationship with Siege Mode
Its all love love here. The issue is not knowing when to use it
untold stirrup
it is with manipulating an unintended exploit for instant-siege fire
Even then I still don't like siege mode
Enemies are not physically mobile or fast enough to catch you if you stand far away and charge siege
untold stirrup
Yeah I gave holo swapping a try. The only issue for me is the key bindings I hav...
It's easiest if you have a mouse with side buttons
polar lake
Very true
untold stirrup
it's bizarre you complain about one such technique while worshipping the other
I'm not so much about worshipping holo swapping either
I'm not like "it's the only way to play"
Regular swapping is still completely fine and holo swapping has its downsides compared to regular swapping that's interrupted by CSG or HAR
untold stirrup
Like for example holo swapping doesn't take into account for internal weapon cooldown becausebof how fast it is
chrome basin
projectiles are pretty fast, as are the demons. the tradeoff to siege is that you're largely immobile while charging it in a game that's all about demons getting up in one's grill. siege is meant as a reward for powering it up and unlocking its mastery for at least a bit of mobility (not that you even need the limited mobility if you know when to use it and safely create some time and/or distance), and using it in place of a constant barrage of whatever else you have (or regular quick-swapping). that's intended design
untold stirrup
With holo swapping the gauss cannon is in cooldown so much of the time due to how fast it is
chrome basin
insta-siege isn't intended, but that's not a problem with siege, that's a problem with the dev team being unaware of the quick-swapping exploits found
holo-swapping is just as game-breaking
untold stirrup
It is if you really master it
But it is hard to get really consistent unless you're a god like sylar or fatmetro
It's just... idk there's something about siege that I don't necessarily like too much
chrome basin
dksms, heh
halcyon bear
projectiles are pretty fast, as are the demons. the tradeoff to siege is that y...
Exactly. Using it right requires you have situational awareness
halcyon bear
Kinda
untold stirrup
That not is not supposed to be there
chrome basin
holo-swapping seems pretty easy, if you have the nade-whatever key on an ergonomic key, like side mouse buttons
halcyon bear
Meanwhile In controller world
untold stirrup
It's easy to perform but it takes time to get consistent and you need to have some understanding of interal weapon cooldowns
Especially if you mix it with mods
And in combat
It's still quite broken though
chrome basin
definitely
untold stirrup
No excuse for that
untold stirrup
You can delete barons in 2 seconds when combined with mod swapping too
cold bison
Ok
chrome basin
it's a bit of a silly debate to be had anyway, what's cheaper than what, in a game where you can just infinitely bfg everything in sight most of the time
or stun/quickswap everything in general
untold stirrup
Soft faltering exists in 2016 pretty sure
halcyon bear
Exactly and than can be said for swapping in general. It really is personal preference
2016 is unique like that
untold stirrup
You have enough ammo to run through the game with the SSG
So if you wanna play like that, go for it
Jeezus christ my keyboard is faulty
And i don't mean that message in an offensive way
chrome basin
i never understood that. like the ssg is great and all, but mostly in conjunction with other weapons. i can't imagine why anyone would go through the game solely using it as their only weapon (outside of like, an intentional challenge or whatever)
untold stirrup
Anyway... i meant to say swapping seems to add more to the gameplay(just swapping in general) and make it more interesting so i like it
halcyon bear
You have enough ammo to run through the game with the SSG
I hate those runs I'm sorry. I don't see the joy in it
untold stirrup
i never understood that. like the ssg is great and all, but mostly in conjuncti...
Some people did that for ease of gameplay 
When DE released a lot of people complained about running out of ammo all the time
halcyon bear
Ssg can be made to be a beast I get it but I would never just use that alone
untold stirrup
Which I assume they're using the SSG a lot
Because you can cycle between weapons
So "running out of ammo" is kinda funny
You're not running out of ammo, you're running out of shells from using the SSG so much
untold stirrup
I hate those runs I'm sorry. I don't see the joy in it
Me neither tbh, seems boring
chrome basin
it's a bit ironic, for most games i avoid glitches and try to play as close to the way the devs intended. otherwise it just feels cheesy, and if i were to exploit holo-swapping i feel i'd may as well just rail-boost through half the game's levels. but one game i still play 20 years later is Team Fortress Classic, which is a game where the entire meta has been defined by exploiting unintended features, like bunnyhopping, ramp-sliding, hh conc jumping, etc. so when we discovered something similar to doom's faster swapping methods (was probably before doom 2016, though it was still a late discovery in the game's lifespan), it kinda breathed new life into the possibilities. but even for tfc it was deemed too powerful, and the community banned it
halcyon bear
I see the argument often. Doom 2016 isn't as good as eternal because you CAN use just the ssg. But truth is on high level play no not really at all and 2.. why would you
chrome basin
you won't really appreciate the context of how broken the technique in this video can be, and i imagine most ppl in this chan won't get over the dated graphics (though i use my own ultra-minimalistic textures and such), but this is similar in concept and execution
boring video since i don't include a showcase of dominating with it, heh
halcyon bear
Graphics mean nothing to me. Atheistic and gameplay . I'll check it out