doom-2016

[light sierra]

The one where the marauder resists momentarily, but you stab it in the eye

[granite jackal]

I like the archville one

[elder meadow]

Mine is the one on the earth zombie where you bonk his head in

[sleek herald]

I like the one where you shove the whiplashes arm in the back of its throat

[snow heron]

The one wear you rip the Prowlers spine out along with it’s head

[granite jackal]

Nice.

[granite jackal]

I have a challenge for you all

Figure out who my avatar is without looking it up.

Good luck.

[rigid bridge]

Is it the looney tunes Martian

[granite jackal]

No.

[rigid bridge]

Damn

[granite jackal]

Close, but no.

You see I'm a boomer so I was alive when this show was aired

[rigid bridge]

King Martian

[granite jackal]

I give up on asking.

Just google him.

[rigid bridge]

Lol

[granite jackal]

e

[unreal sigil]

Doom 2016 is actually the best doom game i think

[eternal spruce]

why?

[granite jackal]

Eh..

[unreal sigil]

Idk it was my first doom and it was so… idk it made me happier by killing the demons than the other games

[granite jackal]

DOOM 2016 is good but Eternal is way better, because it improves on everything else.

[eternal spruce]

also my first game but i prefer doom eternal

[eternal spruce]

agreed

[granite jackal]

Indeed so.

[unreal sigil]

Idk its just like my first game and i always think my first games or soundtracks are the best lmao

[eternal spruce]

thats just a nostalgia thing really..

[unreal sigil]

Soo

I didnt play eternal so much but i will and then maybe i can agree with u 🙂

[eternal spruce]

sure thing

[lethal bison]

At least y’all aren’t like ABritishPotato, saying bs like DOOM 2016 is just a bad prototype for DOOM Eternal and that it’s Overrated.

[rigid bridge]

Not everything

[eternal spruce]

what really?

[lethal bison]

Highly disagree with that Youtuber on that point

[eternal spruce]

someone said that?

its overall more casual

[unreal sigil]

Btw who else loves doom soundtracks

[eternal spruce]

prob everyone here

[unreal sigil]

I just joined this dc server and i feel so comfortable with u guys who like doom

[lethal bison]

Yeah this guy named ABritishPotato, in his video talking about clockner. He says that DOOM 2016 is bad because “unbalanced weapons, platforming, and bad level design” which is wrong on so many levels

[eternal spruce]

why?

[unreal sigil]

Idk… i got a few friends irl and they dont play doom just some mainstream shit like apex (apex is not shit but mainstream for me) and its just new for me having ppl around me who r like me

Sorry if my English is bad im from Austria

[eternal spruce]

well youre welcome

[lethal bison]

Your English ain’t bad but yeah I know what you mean, none of my buddies play DOOM, and the few that do hardly played it, so I’ve decided to just get in touch with DOOM Dudes on Discord that do like it

[granite jackal]

Most things

[rigid bridge]

Sure

[granite jackal]

I love DOOM

[eternal spruce]

me too

[unreal sigil]

Yeah its great having ppl who r like me

[granite jackal]

Most of my friends play DOOM

[unreal sigil]

U got luck

Mine r just so mainstream and they call themselves gamers

Does somebody of u know Serious Sam?

[eternal spruce]

still a gamer

[unreal sigil]

Yeah but… just mainstream yk

I actually hate being mainstream

[eternal spruce]

me too kinda thats why i like feet

[unreal sigil]

Haha

[granite jackal]

Ok.

[unreal sigil]

Idk how its called in english.. maybe foot fetish?

[eternal spruce]

yep

[granite jackal]

UHHHH

[unreal sigil]

Haha okayy

[granite jackal]

Footfetishes?

[eternal spruce]

yes

[granite jackal]

what the hell?

[unreal sigil]

I dont got one

But ther r ppl who have

[granite jackal]

Strangely I'm attracted to GhostFace.

[eternal spruce]

like me

[unreal sigil]

Do yall like death metal

[granite jackal]

Yes.

[unreal sigil]

It is great

A question: would u see me as a kid

Nah nvm

I wish having a friend irl who plays doom

Or is psycho

[granite jackal]

I like Dead By Daylight.

[unreal sigil]

Yeah i like it toooo

Do u know Duke Nukem

Okay nvm guys i think i will go to bed soon

[jolly geyser]

It's my favorite DOOM game but I didn't play Eternal yet

[unreal sigil]

Same here

So i played but only for 5 min or so

[jolly geyser]

what I like about DOOM 2016 is that it's extreme popcorn-gore

so much power once you master the game

[unreal sigil]

Yeah

[jolly geyser]

Like it's literally the kind of game that makes you feel satisfied as fuck and not feel ashamed of it when you see gore, unlike survival horror games and such

[unreal sigil]

Yeah

[snow heron]

Yeah. Sucks the newest installment Duke Nukem Forvever is garbage both gameplay and visual wise.

[unreal sigil]

Yeah

[halcyon bear]

It really is horrible

[turbid relic]

i'd say that doom eternal takes a dark souls kind of path

with more complex gameplay mechanics and just being a harder game overall

whereas 2016 just starts you out as pretty powerful and lets you just paint blood on a white canvas to make your own playstyle and strengths as doomguy

so in terms of gameplay and overall merit i like 2016 better although eternal was also a great game

although eternal's new mobs and tougher platforming make for a fun challenge

eternal feels like you're playing master level versions of 2016

[slim pebble]

Dookie Nukem Snorever

[jolly geyser]

Kick Nookie

[remote spoke]

duke takem forever

[viral garnet]

i had a dream about a new duke nukem game and the dream was so good that im going to steal the features from the dream and hopefully develop them into their own game

the final boss was randy pitchford

[snow heron]

Good luck with that man

[viral garnet]

it had a really weird meta plot where duke nukem forever was released in-universe and utterly destroyed the duke's reputation leaving him as a washed out has been lmfao

and randy pitchford was an alien in disguise ruining duke's reputation on purpose so that the earth couldn't defend itself

my dreams are wack

the most unrealistic part of it all is that gearbox would touch the franchise ever again

[snow heron]

Duke can’t be saved. He can’t

[viral garnet]

i can dream okay 😭😭

[unreal sigil]

Soo guys

Ik i hit up the duke nukem thing but that’s still a doom server lmao

[stone tapir]

@turbid relic stfu

[unreal sigil]

Umlaut

German

[snow heron]

Technically Duke Nukem 3D runs on the Build Engine which is based off of the id Tech 1 Engine so it’s connected to Doom and thus is relevant to the the Doom discord

[turbid relic]

uhh ok?

[halcyon bear]

No duke has no place here at all

Love the game though

[slim pebble]

Duke Nukem Forever got infected by "modern shooter" plague

[queen monolith]

hey anyone willing to help me with something

[jolly geyser]

hmm?

[queen monolith]

so i try to enter cheats into console but it says set cvar devmode_enable to enable dev mode for cheats what do i do

[jolly geyser]

you need to enable dev mode first, either as a custom parameter for the shortcut or in the properties in steam

[queen monolith]

ok how do i do that?

[jolly geyser]

you have it on steam?

[queen monolith]

YE

sry caps

sorry i just wanted to mess around with cheats

[jolly geyser]

https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=686972243 this might interest you @queen monolith

[queen monolith]

thank you

[jolly geyser]

np

[queen monolith]

sorry if im bothering u but why wont the command cvarAdd g_permaInfiniteAmmo 1 work?

[upper musk]

the reaper was doom 4's take on the doom 64 unmaker lol

[rigid oxide]

I like the eternals unmaykr

As a doom 64 fan it made me happy to see it back

[sleek herald]

It sucks balls though

theres literally no reason to use it over the bfg

[royal chasm]

I've seen some arguments about it... but yeah no it sucks. If the spread was just a little bit less it would be amazing. But it's a shit weapon

[snow heron]

The Unmaykr is kind of underwhelming. You do the Slayer Gates to get a new super weapon and all you get is a spread gun that uses ammo for your other super weapon that already barely gets ammo. It’s hyped to be stronger than the BFG in a video by UnderTheMayo he says that in TAG1 you can use the Unmaykr to focus down on heavies and super heavies and while that’s true just unloading a single BFG shot is just better as it can hit multiple targets anyway

[rigid oxide]

Its great for the icon of sin fight

And super heavies you just don't want to deal with

But if you're getting rushed down by fodder while trying to focus a heavy a bfg shot is better

I typically don't use either The BFG or the unmaker

[snow heron]

I personally like dumping tons of bullets into a super heavy seeing the flesh fall off

[sleek herald]

But the bfg can do that too

And it kills everything else too

[rigid oxide]

BFG only kills fodder and maybe heavies

In eternal

2016 that thing is ridiculous

[royal chasm]

BFG clears the map except for super heavies

[snow heron]

Still boggles my mind how that BFG exploit was left in the game

[royal chasm]

for real, how did they not ever patch it out lmao

[snow heron]

I’m not complaining though lmao. So fun to melt a boss with it or to cheese arenas

[royal chasm]

Kill 30 fodder demons with the rune that makes them drop BFG cells

[snow heron]

I have like 30 hours on DOOM 2016 and I didn’t know that existed. Am gonna need to get me that.

[royal chasm]

Aw damn I got like 150 hours lmao

[snow heron]

I have more hours on my Nintendo Switch since that’s where I played the game first I only have 30 on my Steam account

[fierce remnant]

ive tried 20 minutes of the multiplayer on d2016 and found it quite fun, any good resource I should read before jumping in?

ive played Q3 Arena, CS:GO and TF2 a fair bit but there seems to be lots of things to learn in this one

lol

[royal chasm]

that was actually written years and years after the fact. Early 00's I think

[fierce remnant]

what are the popular multiplay modes? FFA seems to take forever to queue

[noble moat]

Man people get way too bent out of shape over some emotes

[royal chasm]

Seriously.

[noble moat]

[pearl raft]

what happened?

[sleek herald]

Big ass argument

I wouldn’t bring it up again

[pearl raft]

alright cool

[elder meadow]

So anyone (re)playing 2016 atm? Started another run a while back but only at Foundry, Eternal sucked me back in...

[sleek herald]

I started on uv about a month ago but the eternal event got me back

ill probably start up again cause the event is over

i think i was on kadinger

[elder meadow]

Nice. Truth is even if 2016 is very "vanilla" compared to Eternal and slower it still feels good to play.

to me

plus it's cool to try out weapon combos in 2016. When I played it 5 years ago had no idea that was a thing 🙂

Btw have to say heavy AR in 2016 feels better to fire than heavy cannon in Eternal

[sleek herald]

Oh for sure

and its hitscan

[vocal remnant]

I miss beta Doom Eternal

It have more ammo and realistic view

[old gust]

is anyone hosting multiplayer nights for doom 2016? I can't find a lobby and want to level up my multiplayer level to at least try out other guns in practice mode. I just bought the game, so everything is locked (custom loadouts, demons, etc.)

[eternal spruce]

You have infinite ammo with the chainsaw in doom eternal

[elder meadow]

You sure? I thought it's projectile but just a lot faster. But yeah faster bullet and headshots meaning more is the thing I think.

just feels better

[sleek herald]

No its hitscan theres no time between trigger and damage

the new one is projectile which i hate

[elder meadow]

projectile 🙂

[sleek herald]

Oh right

whoops lol

[elder meadow]

I generally prefer projectile but the heavy cannon just both fires too slow and has too slow projectile speed.

Granted you use the mods 99 % of the time but still

[sleek herald]

Yeah i dont really like that speed of projectile

its too fast to be used like a rocket where you predict, but its too slow to be effectuvely used as a hitscan

[elder meadow]

yeah combined with low damage it's near useless. Plasma rifle or chaingun just make it redundant.

codex says should be good against imps in particular but meh.

as if there aren't about a hundred ways to kill an imp

[sleek herald]

two shots stagger fodder

used that against the dark lord

[elder meadow]

You used heavy cannon against the dark lord? Omg

(im kidding)

[viral garnet]

doom 2016 feels slow after playing doom eternal, which is why im going to stop playing eternal until i've finished the slow hell that is dark souls, then play doom 2016

[elder meadow]

First time playing Dark Souls?

[royal chasm]

No, please do 🙂

[sleek herald]

Bro do you want to get kicked

[royal chasm]

Why would I get kicked?

[sleek herald]

bob purged the messages, he doesnt want us to talk about it

we’re lucky we didnt get warned

[royal chasm]

I didn't say anything rule-breaking, I was making a very simple argument that Doom has a lot of political undertones and y'all got real mad about it

[elder meadow]

at least take it to #general or better yet Resetera this is Doom2016 ffs

[royal chasm]

But i am talking about doom 2016

[fierce remnant]

look at Steam charts and time yourself with peaks in your timezone, lobbies are quick in the evening at least on eastern standard time. I get teamplay lobbies in sub 1 minute

@royal chasm splitgate is real fun man i'll hit u when I get back on

[royal chasm]

hell ya

[fierce remnant]

do u play ranked?

[royal chasm]

hell na

[fierce remnant]

haha ok im from LoL im rankd driven af

[royal chasm]

Yeah I don't play ranked anything

I'm not willing to put in the effort to get Actually Good at most games

[fierce remnant]

I have countless hours put in FPS and was always driven by competition

im old af, played Quake 1, Quake 2 and 3 : arena alot

[royal chasm]

I am putting in the work to get Actually Good at Eternal

I find Eternal absolutely fascinating

Sometimes I go back to2016 and think it's simplistic, but I sure as fuck didn't think that when I played it the first time lmao

[trim bridge]

Ive been trying to master the gatling rotator for like 20 mins and it won't work?

[royal chasm]

Go replay early levels and do it on fodder demons

[trim bridge]

its the kill 5 demons in 5 seconds challenge and i've definitely killed more than five in less time

im on lvl 2 killing possessed

[royal chasm]

oh my

[trim bridge]

yh i have no idea whats going on :/

[royal chasm]

you are haunted

[trim bridge]

check videos

thats 5 in 3 seconds....

[royal chasm]

Aha

There's your problem

1. That's not gatling rotater. That's mobile turret
2. For the mobile turret upgrade, I'm pretty sure you have to do it without overheating

[trim bridge]

....#

thank u so much i literally didnt ever realise :///

[royal chasm]

I gotchu fam

[trim bridge]

aaand done 😒

[royal chasm]

i knew you could do it

Now do gatling rotater!

[elder meadow]

Yeah it's funny how 2016 changes when compared to Eternal

[royal chasm]

When I did 2016 the first time, I got weapon mastery on the mobile turret, rich get richer, and then only used that for the rest of the game

I died a lot, because that's an awful way to play

But guess what I went and did that with Eternal too and it took me like 3 hours to kill the Icon, holy fuck

Now I understand weapon swapping

[elder meadow]

Lol yeh Eternal certainly pushes you from spamming just one weapon. And I adore it for that, it breaks convention and rewards mastery.

[royal chasm]

The thing about Eternal that's so brilliant is the regenerating chainsaw pip

that changes everything! That, plus the dramatic boost to glory kill health, and flame burp, means that a battle can last as long as a player can concentrate

There's no hard limits on anything, because it can go on forever

Sure, this is true in like titanfall 2 because your health regens to max all the time and you have to pick up your slain enemy's weapons... but that and like halo just don't feel as good

[halcyon bear]

I tend to be able to unplug and enjoy every doom game for what they bring to the table. I feel bad for people with issues that come with muscle memory

[elder meadow]

what do people in this server think about DOOM 2016's SnapMap?

[royal chasm]

I think, conceptually, it's fucking excellent. Community content has long been a component part of DOOM, and so that's wonderful

That said I've literally never even tried one lmao

[halcyon bear]

They're a good time

[azure pawn]

My only complaints about snapmap is that it has the hit marker noises and effects from the multiplayer, and that not enough people make stuff for it anymore

[elder meadow]

SnapMap is good but as someone who created levels for og. Doom with DEU back in the day (way back) I think it should have been similar, not just building blocks.

[royal chasm]

SnapMap wasn't wildly popular, so it was not included in Eternal though they had originally planned for it. Maybe we'll get lucky and they'll add it in later. Eternal is much more update-driven than 2016

[chrome basin]

i found it really disappointing and limited in terms of what it could do. i come from the half-life engine where you could make levels and mods just as good as (and better than) the original game and/or official maps, so for snapmap not only not to allow that, but for the gameplay it offers to be mechanically different from single-player, was an immense letdown.

same deal with og doom map creation back in the day, the sky was the limit

[woeful fjord]

hey is there some extra costumes fpr doom 2016

how to unlock?

[fierce remnant]

multiplayer

[fierce remnant]

yes. multiplayer challenges / awards unlocks various pieces of outfit and armor

[woeful fjord]

Oh thanks

[neon kestrel]

Guys I got doom 16 for the switch again

[halcyon bear]

A new doom game with the capability of prodeus is what they should strive for. Snapmap on steroids

[royal chasm]

That would be nice. i suspect the reason for snapmap's limitations is engine problems. They can only handle so much

[chrome basin]

or targeting consoles, or attempting to avoid ppl designing maps beyond certain players' specs

[trim bridge]

ive seen ppl talking about only using super shotty for 2016? i swapped weapons all the time just to see what did what lmao

it was so fun not caring about getting a level complete or how to do something i could just… shoot

i watched a review about eternal and idk if wanna play it tbh but i don’t wanna replay 2016 lol

[halcyon bear]

Prodeus will be coming to consoles with pc creators maps being fully available at launch

So that shouldn't be a reason

But your other reasons make sense

[jolly geyser]

Fantastic, I love many snapmaps and they're really fun to play with friends

[snow heron]

Pretty cool. The stuff you can make with it is unique and the levels you can find are pretty neat.

[snow heron]

I want DUSK and ULTRAKILL to get a level editor, I know ULTRAKILL’s is in development but I don’t think DUSK will ever get one.

[glacial lichen]

Would anybody be interested in hopping on and playing some multiplayer on PlayStation? Would love to get my plat done.

It’s seeming like it might not happen

[late scroll]

They REAAAALLY updated it since launch though and you can almost do anything you want now. It used to only be hallways.

[jolly geyser]

You can even make a flamethrower in snapmaps lol

[earnest tide]

lot of people now on switch doom 2016... come on..!

[teal storm]

great game lads 🙌🏽

[elder meadow]

Just get Eternal, it's on sale pretty often. Idk what review you watched but don't trust any that say too hard / forces your hand / etc. There's a learning curve but past that it blows 2016 out the water. Imo.

Also on lower difficulties you can play it way simpler, the added mechanics are more optional than mandatory there. And I def recommend start with low difficulty, the game is about 1000 % more enjoyable that way.

[untold stirrup]

Just started playing Doom 2016 with a Boot Camped macbook air 😂

all settings on low and few game modifications make it run on smooth 40 or so fps, even with intel iris plus graphics lol

playing on ultra violence, but may switch it up to nightmare later 🤔

[trim bridge]

yeah that helps, tbh i’m a lil sad about some stuff like the helmet being off but i’ll give it a go

thanks

[elder meadow]

Np! Truth is I was initially frustrated with Eternal but these days it's my favorite game by far. So give it time, it may not click immediately.

[trim bridge]

it’s kind of a shame about the harder difficulty though, i quite like games on hard

[elder meadow]

Trust me, once you learn the combat loop you'll want to play it "properly" and with higher diff

[jolly geyser]

good luck, I started with ITYTD lol

[sleek herald]

Yes

[dusty compass]

Anyone got all achiwmwnts/ platinum in Doom 2016? ive got them all

[halcyon bear]

I used to start with UV until I found my lord a savior nightmare

[native star]

Best runes for 2016?

[halcyon bear]

Best not broken ones

[trim bridge]

how did u do multiplayer ones i match made for like 15 mins yesterday

[untold stirrup]

I can say IFM def helps, otherwise other runes you'll have to customize to your playstyle

IFM is In-Flight Mobility iydk

[dusty compass]

i can help you

add Jimmyboysnoopy on psn

[trim bridge]

ah, is it cross platform?

sorry should’ve mentioned i’m on pc

[dusty compass]

i really dont know

https://tenor.com/view/doom-logo-doom-video-game-logo-gif-14624225

[simple plinth]

[muted lintel]

Anyone still play this on PS4?game seems dead when I try to get a matchup online

Sucks too as I prefer the Doom2016 multiplayer over Eternals

[left wing]

as far as multiplayer is concerned, I do believe people still play the 2016 multiplayer. Either they are new players or pub stomping Prestige Level 50s

I've played a couple games and had a blast, certainly worth checking out

[muted lintel]

I'll give it another try tonight. In the meantime if anyone wants to add me my PSN is Dj-Starscream90 thanks
for responding

[left wing]

I'm on steam, not so sure if it's cross platform.

[muted lintel]

I just checked no crossplay for either Doom game

[left wing]

[muted lintel]

I've got Quake which has crossplay it's technically part of the doom universe? Lol

[native star]

This is stupid my mission 8 for my new campaign save is broken wont let me press a panel when it is meant to show the hologram of them talking…

Ffs there was a zombie all the way at the beginning…

[left wing]

I hope you used it to get the neck snap mission challenge

[native star]

Whats that

God i hate watching the cutscenes in 2016 no skips

[cloud field]

The challenge to get the weapon point i think

[native star]

Finding secrets in this game is a pain

My first playthrough i missed half the weapon mod drones

[chrome basin]

the secrets were ez to find imo. a good compromise between wall thumping in the og games and how braindead obvious they were in eternal

[native star]

Maybe thats why i think they are hard because i played eternal first lol

[chrome basin]

and i like exploring, so i enjoy scanning over the maps in general

yeah eternal's were way too simple imo

[native star]

There is no fast travel in this game right?

[chrome basin]

no fast travel in 2016, correct

that's one of the downsides i guess

[native star]

Thats so annoying

Imagine doing 100% run and u forget a secret at beginning

[chrome basin]

yeah, though as rpg players know, it's nothing compared to missing an item in those games and having to play dozens of hours over again, heh

[native star]

Rip

[chrome basin]

if you get the exploration suit upgrades, it makes finding secret easier, aside from the hidden classic doom areas

[native star]

Also i feel like the map in eternal is more simple which is easier for me to understand compared to 2016 and i can use it to find secrets easier

[chrome basin]

yeah. i'm one of the ones always talking about how i prefer 2016's level design exactly for those reasons, as like i said, i love exploration. again, it's another way that 2016 is a better compromise compared to what classic doom used to be, as the og games were basically FPS dungeon crawlers

[native star]

Yea i guess if you liked classic doom a ton u would like 2016 a lot as well

I feel like eternal just guides the player better

[chrome basin]

yeah. eternal's good too, certainly, and amped up the adrenalin and combat a lot

eternal's pretty linear, so yeah

[native star]

I dont like how u instantly die in 2016 if u fall off map

[chrome basin]

only really an issue in ultra nightmare imo. going back a few mins to a checkpoint isn't a huge deal tbh. i prefer the "realism". i didn't like how eternal felt more like an arcade game. but i get how people prefer the way eternal handled it. 2016 has far less platforming so it's not quite as huge a deal

[native star]

Ye i suck at the platforming in 2016 and if u miss a ledge u just die

And that the crouch is pretty useless

[chrome basin]

yeah i think i crouched once in all my years of playing 2016

i think they only time you really need is getting into one or two secrets, and avoiding one of the final boss's attacks

[native star]

Yep the cyberdemon boss

[halcyon bear]

Theres a pattern of stupid complaints and the first doom game ever played being eternal

[pearl raft]

what does penetrating targets mean

[chrome basin]

bullets go through them and hit targets behind them as well

[pearl raft]

thanks, whats the better upgrade for t he mobile turret

[chrome basin]

not to use it. 😄

idk, i guess the mobile turret

[native star]

Is the chaingun even good in 2016

Its one of the weapons i never use

[jolly geyser]

it's meh

not bad, not good, and not necessary for you to win the game

HAR's Micro-Missiles mastery has far better dps

[elder meadow]

dude, why can i even get a scope on the rifle in 2016, mf this aint CoD, what would you even use it for

if it zooms in on things you will see less around you, and this a movement shooter, and you probably move your camera slower while usin it

[jolly geyser]

with all upgrades it deals high dps than usual and you can use it to shoot caco eyes for example

[native star]

I hate pinkies in 2016 really annoying

[tender bobcat]

Anyone remember the really cursed Doom 2016 Pop Funkos

I'd send a picture bit I don't have the permission to

[left wing]

I have one of the Praetor Suit

It's not that cursed

[tender bobcat]

This was before Funko really upped their body mold game so the Slayer was stuck in that awkward sumo pose holding the super shotgun

Though the Cyberdemon one actually looked pretty good ngl

[left wing]

Oh, I copped an updated version at a Good will still in its box

[native star]

[heady bear]

DOOM 2016 keeps crashing every time i try to launch it

[native star]

[halcyon bear]

Dev rounds slap

[left wing]

multiplayer is rad, play it

[remote spoke]

damn the chainsaw in this game is POWERFUL

[untold stirrup]

Sniping? Far away enemies you can't reach at a cheap cost. With the upgrades is does extremely high DPS too...

[pearl raft]

wow i finished and this game is GOOD

gonna take like a week before i start eternal

[halcyon bear]

You melt hellknights with dev rounds. Only if you have that aim though

Plus it's alot of fun

And on nightmare it messes up wall imps

[untold stirrup]

I'm at argent tower rn, and sheesh that ammo boost rune took forever to me but mainly because I think my aim sucked and I couldn't find the last Unwilling

Sucky aim comes when you're using default laptop graphics and downgrade em to potato mode

so you can run the game at 60 FPS

[keen minnow]

Unsure if this question goes here or not, but during the Cyberdemon fight...after you pull out the accumulator are you supposed to be able to control the camera?

[untold stirrup]

everything on low, a few more modifications to remove as much lighting, shadows, and shaders possible, and 4:3 ratio on 640x480(I think) resolution, fullscreen

sometimes I get some buggy graphics on the edges of the screen or I get framedrops but that's all solved with the good old Goldeneye strat of looking down at the grindstone and hauling ass

[untold stirrup]

Don't think so? I think it stays fixed on the cyberdemon until he revives and pulls out the rocky spikes from the ground.

[keen minnow]

Well then I broke doom a bit...but that seems normal with me

[native star]

I only play 2016 on UV atm

[untold stirrup]

I may or may not try UN on my laptop...

In case anyone wonders how potatoey my game looks and how I'm struggling a bit with default macbook graphics, here ya go:

[snow heron]

Try updating your Nvidia game drivers you can do this by downloading the Nvidia GeForce Experience app on your PC. If that doesn’t work try validating DOOM 2016’s files on Steam. You can do this by right clicking on DOOM 2016 in your game library, select properties, click on browse local files and hit validate game files then it should check if any missing files and replace them

[untold stirrup]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/797132178563530805/889257308360687626/20210919_171046.jpg

[snow heron]

I thought this was a Nintendo Switch for a split second

[untold stirrup]

UN will definitely be an experience

I need as much cheese as possible

[snow heron]

I use an ASUS A15 laptop for gaming an DOOM 2016 for me jumps between 40-60 FPS to 100-150 FPS sometimes 200 if I’m lucky.

[untold stirrup]

2016 usually runs at 60 fps with the mods I made, it drops if it starts rendering a shit ton of things on the screen

But then I just gotta look at the floor to render less things and regain fps

Playing goldeneye in doom

[snow heron]

I used to have an issue where DOOM 2016 and DOOM Eternal would drop to 15-25 FPS for a while and I found such a strange fix. I needed my laptop to be unplugged and I would get 30-35 FPS which is stable enough that it’s playable. Then a changed a VSync setting in DOOM Eternal and got my 60-150 FPS back and DOOM 2016 just sort of fixed itself afterwards

Plugging my laptop in before the fix dropped back down to 15-25 FPS again. This no longer happens but actually lags if I unplug it so idk anymore

[untold stirrup]

Hm vsync fixes screen tearing which I think I still have a tiny bit... but imma try turning it off

[snow heron]

Try keeping your Mac plugged in and you m i g ht get 30 FPS

[heady bear]

i tried both of those one of them worked

[native star]

Lmao technical stuff

[untold stirrup]

I get like constant 60 fps lmfao what're you talking about

The picture shows 27 because it's rendering all that sky and background

I tried turning off vsync and I could get up to 100 with goldeneye strats

[jolly geyser]

Play with maximum fov now

[untold stirrup]

I am lol, 130 fov

[jolly geyser]

oh makes sense

[untold stirrup]

I tried 150 earlier, it was ugly as fuck

I could see the ends of doomguy's clipped arms

Let's be honest, default fov won't be enough in midst of your ripping and tearing

[snow heron]

Ah that makes sense my bad

[halcyon bear]

Center that shit!

Center above all

Amen

[jolly geyser]

Classic weapon pose ftw

[elder meadow]

just finished the campaign with 35 avg fps 💪

more like 20 but whatever, still had a blast

[jolly geyser]

good work pal

[ornate grove]

DOOM 2016 Multiplayer anyone? I play on switch, plz DM me if do you wanna play

[amber frigate]

So switch

[native star]

I'm on switch too

[elder meadow]

nah pc, somehow..

[sleek herald]

Switch is 60fps

For eternal and 2016

[warped tundra]

Isn't it 30?

[ornate grove]

Ok, so you wanna play multiplayer or not?

[native star]

Soon maybe

[native star]

You’re in the same server for me for 2016 multiplayer

[violet vector]

https://youtu.be/U-3kJcBfQ9w

music

[ornate grove]

Ok

[neon pollen]

i cannot get over the mancubus glory kills, I haven't played doom 2016 in quite some time but he just fucking stands there

thank god eternal lets him fucking EXPLODE

[native star]

Mancubus glory kills kinda simple

[snow heron]

He explodes in DOOM 2016 as well. He gags on his heart in 2016 while Eternal he just looks surprised before exploding.

[neon pollen]

my memory is terrible but the I remember impression of the mancubus just standing there before basically just quietly having a slight malfunction falling apart slightly and the ragdoll basically just sitting down

and then the one where you disconnect his seemingly unpressurized tubes and he also just takes a lil nap on his fat ass

[snow heron]

Yeah I’ve played 2016 last weekend and he gags on his heart before exploding. The tubes glory kill is exactly as how you describe it though more or less

[azure frigate]

Anyone else got their save corrupted after doing lazarus lab?

[halcyon bear]

[jolly geyser]

the cyberdemon curse

[remote spoke]

Holy shiiit

There’s a bunch of environment UN deaths

this is tragic

[chrome basin]

i almost flubbed a jump in the final level. i noticed a helmet there of someone who had

rip

[remote spoke]

i wish eternal had the see other player deaths feature

[jolly geyser]

Yeah ikr it's kinda funny when you see it tho

[elder meadow]

i wanna do ultra violence perma death

can i do that?

if its a mod or something

that adds permadeath to any difficulty

[abstract isle]

Another mp game, another hacker

ah well

[untold stirrup]

oof

[elder meadow]

Restart if you die 🙂

[untold stirrup]

ye basically

falling in doom 2016 really sucks

I can't imagine how many UN runs were ended because of one small mistake

[elder meadow]

Yeah Eternal was definitely an improvement there, just a small HP penalty and teleport back.

Instadeath is pretty rough

Even without UN

[molten olive]

i still wonder why when falling off the map the slayer gets exploded

[hasty quail]

Game logic maybe?

[elder meadow]

Hi

[azure frigate]

should i try to do this game again since my savefile got corrupted ||after the cyberdemon bossfight||?

[molten olive]

if you want go for it

[azure frigate]

i'm at know your enemy

[night ermine]

I'd love for Doom 2016 to get an fps boost to 120 fps.

[azure frigate]

for me if its bigger than 19 fps its good

i get 41 fps and thats more than enough for me

[halcyon bear]

Hilarious hahaha. I've never had a single death like that in my 2000 hours of playing

Maybe a barrel once or twice early on

But man the un ones are just.. Can't even imagine the rage

[remote spoke]

it’s even worse especially after doom eternal

i forgot that it instant killed

[native star]

Dying my barrels is stupid

[primal nacelle]

Charged burst deserves more love

[native star]

I like using it

[jolly geyser]

I think canonically he falls to the deepest bottom and he starts climbing back up there again. Maybe idk lmfao

[untold stirrup]

iD seriously went the right way with doom eternal, making falling not a death

I might attempt UN once I get better(on a MacBook Air no less ) and I already know I might die quite a few times to falling, I've already done so

[royal chasm]

impact compensation

[native star]

Dont u guys hate it when ur playing 2016 and fall under the map

[royal chasm]

that has not happened to me

[elder meadow]

Which doom game has aged better doom 2016 or the eternal doom

[royal chasm]

your mother

[sleek herald]

Eternal hasn’t really had time to age yet

[royal chasm]

is behbeh

[elder meadow]

Well I mean which doom game is more flued and has more refined mechanics in its gameplay that make

[royal chasm]

that is an entirely unrelated question

[sleek herald]

Well eternals movement is definitely more refined, but honestly I prefer 2016

If we were to have a combination of the best bits of both that would be the perfect doom game

I hope it goes something like 2016 is the prototype where they try new stuff and it isn’t great at everything, eternal is where they stray a little bit too far away from what made 2016 good, then for the third game it’ll be the best of both games

[untold stirrup]

Falling off the map? Only falling from great heights results in death.

[sleek herald]

With the movement and combat mechanics of eternal, with the level design and theme of 2016

[sleek herald]

You can fall off the map and die you just need to be really low health

[untold stirrup]

That'd be cool but unfortunately... I'm not sure if that could totally work, although you can emulate the grittiness and general feel though.

Having the mobility features of eternal in the more cramped rooms of 2016 would possibly be a godsend or something that results in your death.

[royal chasm]

taras nabad master level

[untold stirrup]

Only if they make the levels really hard from the beginning.

[royal chasm]

nah

gotta make the game accessible. master levels are for actual masters. THat's why I've only beaten taras nabad ml once

because I'm like, really good but not THAT good

[untold stirrup]

I don't think anyone would replay the taras nabad master level for fun

It's punishing as fuck

[royal chasm]

My goal is to get good enough to beat it on UN

And THEN I will go back and beat the campaign on UN

[untold stirrup]

Campaign is probably worse than a master level

At any point you die, you have to completely restart what could've been hours of progress

[royal chasm]

yes

[elder meadow]

Wait what about doom eternal did you not like. I thought doom eternal was a perfect game.

[flint dune]

Taras Nabad’s difficulty comes from its enclosed spaces. For both the campaign and master level.

[royal chasm]

literally nobody said that

[elder meadow]

Was it the purple goo, the platforming. All those minor things can easily be avoided and do not ruin the pace of the game

[royal chasm]

nobody mentioned those things

[flint dune]

Huh. I just realized this isn’t the Eternal chat.

[sleek herald]

It’s a bit too cartoony, the levels and story seem really random, and I just prefer the dark and grisly theme of 2016

Not saying eternal is a bad game or anything there’s definitely feature I prefer

[royal chasm]

2016 felt like it could really happen. Eternal went bizonkers

[sleek herald]

Agreed

[native star]

Bruh i literally fall down the map and die its happened at least 3 times

[royal chasm]

I'm okay with escalation- Look at Marvel and the Loki series. Loki was fucking insane, and never would have flown with a mainstream audience ten years ago. Marvel had to warm us up to that concept. I just think Eternal hit the gas a little too hard

[native star]

I really like doom 2016 since its different to eternal and different mechanics

[elder meadow]

Well do you play doom 2016 more often than eternal. Not to be rude or anything but I barely know anybody who always dedicate time into playing doom 2016's campaign over and over. Not saying doom 2016's campaign is bad, it's just that doom eternal has way more replay value. He'll I don't know anyone who has beaten doom 2016 all throughout out imo.

[royal chasm]

And Eternal Lore fucking sucks.

[native star]

True but not true

[flint dune]

Eternal’s lore, surface level, is pretty cool imo. When you start looking into it, trying to piece things together, that’s when things start falling apart.

[sleek herald]

The only reason I play eternal a bit more is cause of the events

I just find 2016 levels more enjoyable

And I’ve beaten it like 3 times

[flint dune]

Doom 2016 was more of a full experience. Just my opinion.
I adore both games though.

[royal chasm]

it feels so much more grounded... but I also love the Dash so goddamn much. Flying over the levels with dash and yeethook is so goddamn fun

[sleek herald]

And there’s only two main locations, hell and Mars, which helps the story come together

[native star]

Who likes doom 2016?

[sleek herald]

Me

[flint dune]

Me

[royal chasm]

everyone in this channel. why even ask

[native star]

Me

[native star]

Just curious

[sleek herald]

It felt like there was a purpose to where you were going and what you were doing

[flint dune]

Unfortunately some assholes like to bait others by shitting on one of the games in its dedicated channel.

[native star]

[sleek herald]

In eternal I feel like it’s like Skyrim quests where some dude is like “go kill that guy and take all his money” and you go ok and then the same guy goes and says “go help that old lady cross the road” and you go ok

[flint dune]

I’ve seen it happen here quite a lot.

[elder meadow]

What i wasn't doing any of that

[flint dune]

What? No no I wasn’t implying you were at all. Sorry if it came off that way.

[sleek herald]

There’s no consistency

[halcyon bear]

Hating on one of the best fps games ever created just makes you sound stupid though. That would be like hating on ice cream

[flint dune]

True

[nocturne escarp]

how do i recover corrupted files

i tried to turn on cheats

and when i turned them off

file was corrupted

[dull wind]

I need the MP achievements on xbox 😭

[elder meadow]

Both new Dooms are great games! Personally prefer Eternal though and actually by quite a bit purely for the gameplay.

I actually like the locales variation too, Mars, Earth and Hell have been done to death by the series anyway.

Lore is really out there but I respect the attempt to diversify the Doom universe, especially as the series really needs new place to go.

[errant bloom]

I agree. I just wish they didnt fully went with the comic-like aeasthetic.
Im fine with blop and bop sound for headshot and stuff as it indicate you did a headshot - integral to the gameplay. But fucking spinning mario fire chains is a bit excessive isnt it?

[sleek herald]

Yeah those platforming sections are shit

I like the meathook and the monkey bars cause those are used in combat

And I’m not saying that doom 4s was better it was shit

It’s just a different kind of shit with the mario chains

And I like the sound of the headshot pop and the weakpoint kling

[lethal bison]

.-.

Man so according to Vega you can’t say “I don’t like 2016, I love it”.

[royal chasm]

I don’t like 2016, I love it

[errant bloom]

I think you misunderstood. The platforming is better than in 2016 no doubt. Im just talking how they look.

[sleek herald]

No I hate how they look

There’s literally no reason for hell to put spinning mario chains

It’s just for show

[errant bloom]

Exactly lol. But i can live with it

[sleek herald]

I don’t like it

[royal chasm]

they're scary

and hell is here to torment humans

[errant bloom]

OoooooOOOH scary spinning fire chains OOOooooh

[sleek herald]

I’m pissing my pants

[royal chasm]

good

[sleek herald]

Just thinking about them

[royal chasm]

very good

[errant bloom]

🗿

[royal chasm]

now drink that piss, because there's no water in hell, and get to moving

[errant bloom]

Its good im wearing my brown pants

[royal chasm]

rip and tear

[chrome basin]

2016's platforming was better, imo (what little of it there was). because it fit and enhanced the existing immersion, and felt practical, rather than something that felt out of place and tacked on just to pad time

it makes sense that one would have to scale a tower when the lifts are out of service or locked, it makes a lot less sense that there's some random floating mario obstacle course every few hundred feet in hell (and elsewhere)

[errant bloom]

It was immersive i agree. But when i think of the Argent Tower section in 2016 - i just wanna skip that. Hugo said they added those Platforming sections so we dont only fight the whole time. We need those little breaks inbetween to admire the view, maybe, or just practice with weapon mods on little guys. So it wasnt tacked on. But how you view them is up to anyone. I dont really care. Im never bothered by those anyway in both games. But some keep bashing them. Maybe because they have a minor case of ADHD and only need fights.

[glad fable]

I like several parts of Doom 2016 better than Doom Eternal:

• Enemies don't have gimmicky weaknesses.
• Plasma gun stun bomb = awesome
• I liked the visuals & sound effects of the gauss cannon way more than the ballista.
• SIEGE MODE !!!
• Combat shotgun charged shot + SSG combo is fun AF. Weapon-switching between a shotgun and another shotgun is awesome, but Eternal's combat shotgun is kind of anemic.
• Ammo boost rune, use favorite weapons moar
• Upgraded ammo boost rune, RECREATIONAL BFG just because
• Rocket launcher looks more like military hardware instead of weird cultist-y skull thing?
• 35 rockets. That's a lot of kaboomboom.
• Revenants scream at you less

[chrome basin]

boiling down critique or opinion to adhd is lol

i think a lot of people feel 2016 had much better pacing than eternal, and it accomplished it without mario platforming sections. there's certainly many ways to control pacing

[errant bloom]

The ADHD part was not serious at all. So dont be like that now. Also i think no one mentioned the platforming sections in 2016 because - as you said they were immersive - and do not appear as often. Now that they more straight to your face in Eternal people keep talking about them in a negative way. Their right to hate them. I just dont think going from 1 arena to another arena by multiple straight floors all the time is fun either. 2016 had a good balance. Im not trying to downplay any game now. I just say what i think.

[halcyon bear]

Vega isn't the only reason

[chrome basin]

yeah, i get it. 2016 broke up large battles with exploration, detail, plot exposition, smallfry, etc. eternal does the same along with the platforming, though i feel 2016 accomplished it better, especially in terms of immersive cohesion. one thing i dislike about eternal is it was a lot more linear than 2016, even though 2016 was still pretty linear. but look at the 2nd level for example, even before getting to more open levels like the foundry or the argent base. the path you have to take to get the yellow key is linear, but it's cleverly disguised with proper map design, including a lot of verticality and exploration. once you get the yellow key, you can simply traverse to the next combat arena, or find a whole ton of secrets stemming from that central mini-hub where you continue to explore the vertical maze to find ways to access the other areas you can see but can't yet access

2016 had tons of intelligent map design like that

[glad fable]

I do wish that Doom 2016 had dashing, rechargable chainsaws, the lightsaber, glory-kill-invulnerability, the doomblade, blood punch, shoulder-flamethrowers, and a reasonably-accurate chaingun without needing alt-fire.

[errant bloom]

I FULLY agree with that. The foundry was excellent

[lethal bison]

The way foundry introduces the Hell Knight was ingenious tbh

[halcyon bear]

You really just need to shut down your muscle memory and just play 2016 as it's own game.

[errant bloom]

Im sad SGN wasnt the foundry of eternal

[halcyon bear]

Which it is

[lethal bison]

The heaviest riff begins to play as the Knight chases you down.

[chrome basin]

well i was talking about ummm, what's the 2nd level, uh... resource ops? right after you get the painsaw, the area with the locked yellow door, and the trams coming and going

but yeah, foundry is great too

[errant bloom]

Yeah. I just think foundry shouldve been the idea for a few lvls in eternal. Like SGN and Cultist Base had perfect layouts for that

[lethal bison]

Agreed, especially in SGN, a more non linear design would’ve been nice.

[errant bloom]

Not all of them have to be open. But a few that give you the freedom to engage the area like you want is what i wanted

Hugo said they didnt make the best doom yet. Maybe if they combine 2016s and Eternals strength we might reach peak modern doom, eh?

[lethal bison]

Yeah SGN with the three keys to get into the Big Gore Nest was a good way to set up a non linear level, but oh well what we got is what we got.

[chrome basin]

some ppl complain about getting lost or not being able to find secrets in 2016, especially coming from eternal, but that's because they're so used to having their hand held and being guided through the experience, rather than being used to or even appreciating full agency in terms of exploration or genuine problem solving. modern gaming unfortunately has catered a lot towards this style of design, which is sad for those of us from prior generations, growing up with more freeform games like the original doom, which was almost an fps dungeon crawler

[lethal bison]

Probably.

[halcyon bear]

Thats pretty strange considering how good the map is.

Literally shows you everything

[chrome basin]

there are people who are blown away by learning that there's a super shotgun in level 4

[lethal bison]

Yeah idk how people got lost in 2016, like there are some significant landmarks to let ya know where you’re at sort of, Plus you have an automap for fucks sake.

[chrome basin]

which is pretty easy to find if one resolves to explore the majority of the maps they traverse through

[lethal bison]

It’s not like some levels in Classic DOOM which have similar styled textures, and even then those old levels had often had something to signify that you’ve been or not been in that room before (especially since corpses stay on the map).

[chrome basin]

but they just wanna get to the next pew pew. it's sad because while these people are probably the loudest, and therefor the dev team might've taken cues to try to cater to them by making eternal more linear, i know there still exists a huge portion of gamers who still appreciate genuine agency and the responsibility to earn their way through teh levels / finding secrets / etc.

[halcyon bear]

Even with classic the maps are easy to read.

I mean. I don't know. I don't understand the confusion

Also I don't mind exploration and seeing some cool details in a map for my own

[errant bloom]

What if Doom turned into a 3D Metroidvania? Like Dark Souls 1?

Combat and everything is the same but you can freely explore

[lethal bison]

agreed. 2016’s exploration felt very natural honestly, like finding the SSG in the 4th level, you got enemies in your way in that little area leading to it, which kinda signifies something may be back there.

[halcyon bear]

Thats why I have my doom 3 vr. Uac base in all its glory

[chrome basin]

i love that og doom had so many areas that weren't even necessary to progress, but were simply fun to explore and find resources / more stuff to fight for its own sake. i get that modern development means that it's harder to justify the costs to create areas that a large portion of gamers will simply ignore, but there can still be a happy middleground between linearity and endless exploration. 2016 struck that middleground fairly well, imo. every doom game should have at least a FEW freeform levels requiring intelligent exploration, imo, to stay true to its roots

as Murican said, the foundry was pretty great, in that it was fairly easy to follow the map/radar/whatever to find the gore nests to unlock the final door to the final battle, and the map was well-designed and visible to keep track of where you are / where the goals are, etc.

so it struck that balance quite well

simple, but it still made the player feel responsible and empowered by exploring and figuring the map out. whereas a lot of maps, especially in eternal, you're just holding forward the whole time through guided hallways

or platforming, which are still a form of guided hallways, imo

since they're still linear

[lethal bison]

sad but true.

[halcyon bear]

Well I see it this way. You want the doom 2016 experience doom 2016 isn't going anywhere. You want map immersion and exploration atmosphere.. 2016 has you. You want tension and feeling like a normal person against hell you have 3 if you want raw pure action you have eternal and so on. Every doom scratched a itch and doom games age like fine wine

[chrome basin]

yeah, i'm just saying that going forward, it'd be nice to continue to see a compromise between what doom once was, and where eternal has been taking it. a game with great combat AND great level design/exploration is what i'd like to see in the future

there's been a resurgence of retro fps titles in recent years, often coupling great gameplay with great map design, like DUSK, for example

[errant bloom]

We dont want doom 2016 2. We want a doom that has like strengths of different doom games combined. Maybe its impossible - but i believe ID still put out a unique banger as always.

[chrome basin]

so there's still a market for the whole package

[steel moon]

I'm not sure they can actually raises the bar any higher

Eternal kinda already took the combat system to its logical extreme

[errant bloom]

We are not talking only combat here. Maybe you should read the messages in the past minutes before

But yeah i think they peaked with the combat

[steel moon]

Okay i figured it was because well that's doom 2016 and eternals centerpiece

[halcyon bear]

I believe alot of people love doom eternal and would just want some shine on some of the mechanics as well as added new ones. So I doubt anything more than that

[errant bloom]

It is. But only a game only centred around only combat would bore me to hell. I want some agency in gameplay/exploration.

[chrome basin]

i was surprised there didn't end up being a mecha-piloted moment in eternal. i was dreading it if it ever came to be, as i think most of us prefer the idea of ripping and tearing with our own two fists (and shotties of course), but it was strange seeing the mechs littered everywhere, and one in doomguy's own ship, never for them to be used. it was chekhov's gun, but never fired

[halcyon bear]

But hey halo had a odst. Who knows. If doom took another go at that I'm sure it would have all the things you're asking for. But I doubt it. Quake will most likely solve some of the issues though

[steel moon]

Hmmm something I feel was lost abit on eternal

The levels are alot more straightforward with not alot of wiggle room for exploration

When I think of modern doom there's something i miss

Classic dooms penchant for chaos

[errant bloom]

Yeah thats what i mean. Doesnt really ruin the games for me in anyway.

[halcyon bear]

I'm sure horde mode will hit the spot when it comes to this

Anyways I need to drink a health potion because I broke my own rule

[errant bloom]

What did you do

[chrome basin]

i wish they'd at least stay grounded in heightened realism. the meathook and all the airborne mechanics might be stretching it a bit, but then adding in arcade elements like 1-ups and flaming mario chains and whatnot really starts upsetting the balance

[steel moon]

A different mode wouldn't be good enough I'd want that woven into the game itself onto the normal levels

They also removed one of dooms most iconic thing in terms of game play and that's infighting

[errant bloom]

Yeah og doom had kind of a sandbox in a sense

[chrome basin]

yeah i miss infighting

[halcyon bear]

Mostly my rule is not to talk about eternal in 2016 because they are fundamentally different games

[errant bloom]

True

[steel moon]

Now with eternal everything is so heavily scripted its just not the same

[chrome basin]

it was cool seeing some scripted instances of it in 2016, but it was rare for them to ever actually kill each other, aside from the imps exploding the possessed engineers in the argent facility

[errant bloom]

Is doom 1 and 2 for you different aswell? Because when i think about it its the 2 games with the most identical aesthetic and gameplay.

[halcyon bear]

Infighting would work with a higher enemy count. Not when you're basically the physical form of pure death and fury

And there 50 enemies In a room

[chrome basin]

doom 1 had much better level design, though doom 2 really heightened the demon threat level. both were great, and doom 2's potential was really taken advantage of by better mappers in the modding community

[halcyon bear]

Plutonia for sure

[steel moon]

Doom 2s potential... Made me instantly think of Valiant

[chrome basin]

it's been well over a decade since i last played Final Doom, but i recall liking both expansions. iirc people disliked Evilution. I think i recall liking Plutonia more, but i played all the custom pwads of that era, so even Evilution was probably better than average

i miss those days, the wild west days of creation, where i could appreciate even the less stellar stuff

[paper nimbus]

anyone else having problems connecting to the doom 2016 servers?

[amber frigate]

No not really

[paper nimbus]

huh, guess its just me

[native star]

[jolly geyser]

you connect then get kicked out automatically every time, huh?

[delicate bobcat]

I just 100 percented all the levels in doom, every secret, every challenge, every collectable. Now to complete all the multiplayer achievements

[sleek herald]

Good luck

[left wing]

be careful, the usuals there are all 50 ranks

They're the local pub stompers

[jolly geyser]

Good job, and good luck on the MP achievements bro

[delicate bobcat]

Thanks

[halcyon bear]

It doesn't take long if you know what you're doing

[delicate bobcat]

Multiplayer isnt working, it said something like failed to load title storage

[rancid marten]

Justice for imps

[halcyon bear]

https://imgur.com/a/LiA224T

Here's your justice

[fiery yoke]

Little shit can burn in the same hell it came from

[snow heron]

fuck Imps in 2016 little bastards hit like a truck and are tanky as fuck on a wall for some god damn reason

[elder meadow]

my game broke at the worst time possible

[native star]

I hate pinkies in 2016 they rush you before you can react

[left wing]

remote detonate with Jagged shrapnel

and hologram

[native star]

I would usually just stun bomb them?

[left wing]

that might work, but I don't use Stun bomb

[native star]

It works great for single pinkies but it wont hit multiple of them

[left wing]

Chain stun mastery could solve that issue,

You have equipment like the siphon grenade and hologram to distract enemy fire from you

[native star]

I still havent gotten all the mod bots in both of my saves

[left wing]

There's loads of playthroughs to go through

I recommend ByteMe's speedrun and sort of slow that one down so you know where he's going

[jolly geyser]

^

Makes them act completely dumb and vulnerable

[left wing]

thanks for clarifying. I stray away from most Overpowered mods and equipment just to still have a small challenge

[sleek herald]

Woah a splatoon fan

Cool

[molten olive]

but they literally stand in place before they charge while loudly roaring

[left wing]

Is there a command where I can move the viewmodel out further?

[native star]

But a lot of times there is other enemies around tryna kill u and u cant focus on pinkies

[molten olive]

i can see that

[native star]

Ye and pinkies are usually in front of u

And with other enemies tryna smack u its annoying

[molten olive]

i personally got caught like that around 3-5 times in the game

it is annoying

[rapid tendon]

Yo

Anyone playing pvp?

[delicate bobcat]

Anyone else's game say "Unable to obtain title storage. Please check your network connection and try again"? My internet should be fine, I played multiplayer on other games

[jolly geyser]

what platform?

[rapid tendon]

Pc

[rapid tendon]

.

[jolly geyser]

Hmm you want 1v1? Because apparently I can't join public matches because of a bug

[rapid tendon]

I mean why not, I suck though😂😂

Dm and gimme a minute cause I’m doing something

[jolly geyser]

Ight

I'll boot up the game

[halcyon bear]

Why I love my dev rounds

[tender vortex]

We

[elder meadow]

Tru

[turbid relic]

lol i just always used the shotgun grenades on the wall imps

if you shot in the right space you could hit 2 or 3 at once

[halcyon bear]

Dev rounds also chew them up in a few bursts but can't go wrong with nades

[turbid relic]

crippling a pinky with siege mode gauss was always fun because they'd just give up on life mid-charge

same for staggering a baron in three shots

does anyone else like 2016's gore gibs over eternal?

[rancid marten]

You are racist towards demons

[turbid relic]

LOL it's an imp

[native star]

I can agree lmao the imps just run away and climb on the walls super annoying to chase when u cleared the main demons

[snow heron]

I'd waste no time putting a shotgun shell through an Imps head

[rancid marten]

Ouch.

[snow heron]

As a Doomer I must slay any demons

Including Imps

[shadow bone]

Dose any of you want to play TDM

[turbid relic]

always fun when you've just killed 5 barons, 10 mancubi, and like 8 pinkys and there's just like 20-30 imps just scattered around the arena

kinda gives you ptsd of the first arena in the prologue

[halcyon bear]

Always remember the first imps yell was that of fear

[radiant crow]

is there any way to 100% this game still

[shadow bone]

Yeup that guy was scared shitless

[turbid relic]

as in beat all the levels?

or find all secrets, collectibles, sentry drones and elite guards, etc?

[radiant crow]

multiplayer wise

I can do the campaign stuff

[turbid relic]

not that i know of

but that depends on your definition of "100%ing" a multiplayer add-on

[radiant crow]

I mean I'm specifically talking about achievements

[turbid relic]

i guess just keep playing until you get them all

i haven't tried multiplayer so i'm the least helpful person right now sorry

[radiant crow]

lol all good

[shadow bone]

So any one Wana play multiplayer

[jolly geyser]

we can play snapmaps if you're on PC. I have a bug that doesn't let me play MP for some reason

[untold stirrup]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/854794877594501143/891666637646876709/20210926_083718.jpg

Having a blast playing, and also barons are so much easier than they seem lol

All ran on default mac settings

No extra bullshit

Yeah my game looks potatoey but who cares

It still looks fine imo and at least I get a high fps

[jolly geyser]

What a chad, he's apart of the classic weapon pose gang

[untold stirrup]

Gougaru ahem incouraged me to 👀

Looks good too

[rancid marten]

Seriously you guys are racist towards the mortally challenged

[jolly geyser]

You guys, Imps, are fine but seriously fuck the Cyber-Mancubi

[rancid marten]

Thanks I agree

[fiery yoke]

Yes.
Yes I am.

[jolly geyser]

It's not really like the original but still feels better to use than the default pose and also helps me to aim better personally

[fiery yoke]

Nothing wrong with using either pose

I used classic in eternal for a bit as an aim trainer

[jolly geyser]

both poses are good, I just prefer the classic pose

sometimes I use the default too.

yesterday I just discovered that armor unlockables in snapmaps are separated from MP. lmfao what a noob I am

[fiery yoke]

Snapmap let's you buy them directly with your earned points.
MP forces you to earn them.

[jolly geyser]

yeah. I just thought that it's so cool to finish challenges to earn points and buy armors since I didn't know that DOOM 2016 snapmaps had that. I'm currently using a Templar helmet.

aka night sentinel

[fiery yoke]

I went for the eternal UAC trooper look

For MP I use the Slayer

[jolly geyser]

Based

[fiery yoke]

And doompilled

[snow heron]

Out of all the demons the Whiplash, and Possessed Pain Elementals are my least favorite.

[fiery yoke]

I just hate demons in general

[halcyon bear]

Classic pose. This is the way

[harsh cave]

dont start a war

[halcyon bear]

I don't have to. There's only one way to play doom.

[harsh cave]

ok classic supremacist

[halcyon bear]

Nah I'm just kidding. It just makes me happy to play that way

[harsh cave]

ok good

[slim pebble]

If you like Snapmaps check out Horror Files

[halcyon bear]

Will do

[jolly geyser]

I was just playing snapmaps from a while. There's that farm one where you raise crops and feed the Mancubi hahah

And also use their goo for oil

[snow heron]

yes

[azure pawn]

This is the way.

[elder meadow]

this is definitely the way

[elder meadow]

lmao you kidding? The human race hates us!

[elder meadow]

Mate I'll shank all of hell like I did to the icon of sin in ultra violence.

[untold stirrup]

is it normal to kinda hate IFM when you first use it

I feel so awkward having this wide range of movement that I'm going everywhere

[halcyon bear]

But its pretty addictive

[hearty jasper]

It's weird, every time you say "DooM slayer" BFG division Starts playing

[shadow bone]

Well guys I'm going live on my YouTube channel

[turbid relic]

i'd say it's normal when i first got IFM i hated it i got used to it eventually but liked having the pickup radius boost rune more

[prisma forge]

man 2016 is so good
i spent the sunday playing thru the first half of it

this game gets me to play thru it once every 2 months and it feels just as good everytime

[fiery yoke]

Relatable

[turbid relic]

2016 is probably my favorite of all the doom games

i love classic but there’s something about 2016 that just makes it my go-to

[untold stirrup]

2016 is great

and hm... lemme see if I can get eternal to run on my laptop after I finish doom 2016

which won't probably be for another few months because I'm gonna plan on doing ultra-nightmare

[halcyon bear]

Make sure you do a nightmare practice run or 2 first. I still want to do 1 more deathless nightmare run before I record

[velvet stump]

The no gibbing challenge is really hard

You gotta not gib demons or do glory kills that gib

[untold stirrup]

yeah I know, I'm gonna practice quite a few times and i'm saying months because I don't have a lot of free time at all due to school and work

[halcyon bear]

I feel ya

[chrome basin]

do you restart the deathless nightmare run if you fail?

[wise oar]

Well yes, if you die the game automatically restartes and deletes the data

Oh shit lmao

Sorry I didn't read that correctly I thought you said ultra nightmare

[manic lava]

Check #videos you won’t regret it

[halcyon bear]

I replay the section I died in until I know I have it down then I restart the game and repeat if it happens in a later area and so on until you reach a no death

[chrome basin]

why not do the same thing with ultra nightmare and a separate nightmare slot?

practice the levels on nightmare as you go through teh UN run

if you successfully do it once on nightmare, then again on UN, you're effectively doing it twice, is all i'm saying. minus the credit for the first time

[shadow bone]

Well I'm going live on YouTube

[halcyon bear]

If you feel that system would work best for you give it a go. Personally I'm doing a un playthrough for my channel so a nightmare no death then a full UN works for me

[chrome basin]

ah, then cool cool

[untold stirrup]

Me: sees a field drone oh cool a new mod to add to my collec-

proceeds to fly away into the abyss

Me: fucking come back here you bi-

[turbid relic]

lol field drones are the doom equivalent of claptrap from borderlands

you hate them but also love them at the same time

[fierce mulch]

Guys, guess what: for the first time i beat Argent D' Nur on Nightmare without diying. 😈

[untold stirrup]

nice

[turbid relic]

congrats

[royal chasm]

that is a difficult one, well done

[fair stratus]

Does anyone know if 2016s battle mode servers will ever shut down?

[royal chasm]

As long as 2016 is making money they'll stay up

[native star]

If we keep playing it yes

[fiery yoke]

Daily reminder that harbinger is a fucking masterpiece

[untold stirrup]

it is yeah

[royal chasm]

The ingame dynamic mix is better than the album mix. Album mix repeats itself too much

[elder meadow]

so you're saying the doom 3 intro is good

[fiery yoke]

Yes

[sleek herald]

Harbringer is from 2016

[flint dune]

Some parts are based off of the Doom 3 intro theme, iirc.

[untold junco]

Hello, i am a new doom 2016 player.
is there any way to farm EX with 2 Friends. I mean online is nearly dead? I have only three weapon classes.
Thx for help

[sleek herald]

Online is dead

there are probably enough people to do it here though

if you can get organised that is

[untold stirrup]

yeah

it is a 5 year old game after all, most people are more focused on eternal and if they aren't they're replaying the campaign

[halcyon bear]

You can find matches. But you'll be playing against sweat lords such as myself

[languid niche]

If u wanna play 2016 mp

Use the quick switch tactic like ssg and rocket launcher even the csg and ssg DELETES people

[untold stirrup]

sweats 👀

[languid niche]

Its the only way to actually not die a terrible death

[misty vigil]

yep, rockets to ssg is completely op

but very fun…. i will@never stop abusing it lol

[native star]

Rocket plasma

[slate raft]

Can you go back into a level to get secrets or no?

[jolly geyser]

Yes.

[slate raft]

Thx

Wasn't sure if it was different or not for 2016 compared to eternal

[chrome basin]

there's no fast travel, but you can revisit

[untold stirrup]

^

wait, the levels will be repopulated by demons again right

[royal chasm]

yez

[untold stirrup]

good

I can fuck imps up with micro missiles

damn bastards and their fireballs

[wise oar]

Dude, 2016 imps are the bane of my life

[untold stirrup]

their fireballs are crazy accurate with how slow and predictable a person can get

[mortal reef]

Fuck 2016 fireballs

Bottom text

I stopped playing Nightmare because of that shit

You too kid

[harsh cave]

you gotta learn to juke those stupid imps and barons

[untold stirrup]

barons are fine

I just stun bomb precision, ssg, precision, then remote detonation or micro missiles to finish em off

I would use the tac scope if my aim wasn't as potato because I like using underrated mods

cuz remember I play on a mac air

idk what's the big deal about siege tbh

precision is just as good

[rich merlin]

Does seek and destroy increase the range of the crucible?

[untold stirrup]

wrong channel?

but I think so?

you may have to try it out yourself

[rich merlin]

Oh crap I'm sorry 😊

[dapper hearth]

I’ve come back to 2016 because eternal got boring

So hello friends

[jolly geyser]

Welcome back to the family, son

[royal chasm]

We missed you.

[harsh cave]

more damage, just as fast, piercing, concussive blast on impact, aoe damage, only real drawback is movement speed

[royal chasm]

I'm really looking foward to it. I'm doing all the Dooms in order, which is why I did Doom 16-Doom-Doom II

Because I'm a fool who didn't think it through

mmm, master levels no. RPG maybe

I'm doing it for the "full story"

and I was gon skip the RPG but then I learned it was written by carmack

Is final doom canon? I'm pretty sure it's just levels with demons

I sometimes have a problem with carmack, but generally he is considered to be one of the best coders ever

Idk who asked that and deleted it

ugh fine I'll do final doom, too...

[snow heron]

God speed

[woven seal]

shoot wrong paste

https://tenor.com/view/doom-taunts-thumbs-up-doomguy-gif-19046636

[halcyon bear]

Id skip tnt

[royal chasm]

Y

[halcyon bear]

Alot of people straight up hate it. Map design. Enemy encounters. It's pretty boring. Plus you're not even playing as doom guy in tnt

[royal chasm]

Hm

[halcyon bear]

But hey you could be one of the odd ones that love it so who knows

[chrome basin]

i enjoyed a good portion of the master levels, iirc. it's not necessary for the plot obviously (though idk why you'd play any doom game for the plot), but there's crossover between the mappers of Doom episode IV and the Master Levels so it's an interesting play

[royal chasm]

#833975896196120626

[chrome basin]

i stand by my statement lol

[sleek herald]

Is there a lore explanation for master levels or is it separate from the lore like battlemode

[untold stirrup]

yeah its cool but why, siege is just the norm and boring as hell

sure the damage is good but not until you get the mastery you're always at risk of dying

[jolly geyser]

Precision Bolt > Siege Mode imho

[untold stirrup]

^^

Precision bolt is so much more fun to use

everyone shits on it but the arbalest is basically the same thing

[jolly geyser]

Probably because most of them don't play NM, and it's ultimately dangerous to use siege mode most of times on NM

But it's alright on lower difficulties

[untold stirrup]

my first baron was really underwhelming tbh

expected him to be more dangerous

but ssg, few precision bolts to the head, micro missiles, and he's dead

I'll most probably switch out the micro missiles and stun bomb to heat blast and tac scope sometime soon

I'm keeping remote detonation though

[jolly geyser]

I didn't quickswap in my first playthrough 💀

Now just did my fifth playthrough which is on NM, and I'm fucking melting the hell out of it. I already know the spawn locations of most demons by now.

I might try those Master Level mods to spice up the gameplay a bit

[untold stirrup]

i would be surprised if I can beat UN on my crappy laptop

but first the UV run, then a few NM runs, and then the UN run

[jolly geyser]

I did UN a while ago and died because of an accident lol

[untold stirrup]

I'll check out heat blast and tac scope and see how I can imlement them into my gameplay

but for UN, all bets are off and I'll use the cheesiest weapon mods possible

[jolly geyser]

And it wasn't even a demon lmfao

[untold stirrup]

lemme guess, falling?

[jolly geyser]

Nah, I was walking to the lift in Resource Operations and funnily enough, it was being pulled up while I was entering it.

So the ceiling crushed Doomguy's skull

Because I was in-between the lift and the corridor outside.

[chrome basin]

my worst death was farming a mancubus corpse for ammo rune upgrades and accidentally rocketing it point blank 🙄

[jolly geyser]

lol rip

[untold stirrup]

OOF

[chrome basin]

2nd worst were all the times railings glitch-flung me off the side of the map, before i realized what was causing that and never jumped near railings again

happened the first time i reached argent tower near the double-summoner area

[untold stirrup]

jumping on railings is super risky, I cannot recall how many times I've slipped off of them into the abyss

[naive imp]

Hey fellas, any way to optimize the game just a LITTLE bit further? I wanna get a smooth 60 frames (on a surface pro 6)

[untold stirrup]

every setting as low as possible, and a few console commands that I'll list

vt_filter 0
vt_maxaniso 1
jobs_numthreads 4
r_shadowAtlasWidth 32
r_imageAtlasMaxAniso 1

so set every setting in video to low, turn resolution to 50%, use Vulkan instead of OpenGL 4.5, use a 4:3 resolution on 640x480 scale on fullscreen

and those console commands

also turn off vertical sync

with this setup I can get up to 100 fps on default macbook air settings

These are my specs:

1.1 GHz Dual-Core Intel Core i3
8GB RAM
Intel Iris Plus graphics

[naive imp]

holy shit this guy is running on a fucking macbook air

[untold stirrup]

yeap

[naive imp]

christ this game is fucking optimized

why is it so optimized anyway?

[untold stirrup]

yeah just use those settings, and you're good to go

turn everything low as possible, if it has an off option turn it to that

[naive imp]

I am

still running at 1080p since I do want a better res

but thats it

[untold stirrup]

try 1600x900

it's still good enough, and use those console commands

they really do make a difference

to open the console hit the ` key

it's above the TAB key usually

this website can also help

www.tweaktown.com/guides/7757/doom-graphics-performance-tweak-guide/index.html

[naive imp]

I know, I play some source games

[untold stirrup]

as you can see, this is my game

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/854794877594501143/891666637646876709/20210926_083718.jpg

[naive imp]

JESUS

dude thats Doom 1993

all jokes aside, how old is that Macbook?

[untold stirrup]

yeah cuz I use 4:3 and 640x480 lol to really squeeze out every last drop of fps

[untold stirrup]

it's from 2020

[naive imp]

Christ

[rich merlin]

Hey guys what's the best mod for the gauss cannon?

[untold stirrup]

depends but imho it's Precision Bolt

a lot of people like Siege Mode tho, again it really depends on your playstyle