doom-2016

[halcyon bear]

[jolly geyser]

He's wearing John Carmack's Oculus Rift, what a great reference

[tall forum]

yes it is!

I think. I only played campaign but it seemed like the other options were available

[sweet glacier]

Is there a chat room where I can look for people that wanna play doom or is this it?

[jolly geyser]

if it's Doom 2016, I think you came in the correct place.

[last rapids]

um

came in?

[amber frigate]

Yes

[dark vapor]

[rocky summit]

I died to an imp at close range cuz it doomguy decided to load his super shot gun ONE SHELL AT A TIME

[fiery yoke]

https://youtu.be/75u0AQE-29I

Here's your answer

[rocky summit]

That's awful

That is worse than anything hell has thrown at me

[fiery yoke]

No but it makes sense, plus the extra detail for the animation being interrupted is nice

[jolly geyser]

Weird, never happened to me.

[rocky summit]

It wasnt even an imp fire ball, it was a claw swipe 😭

I like how your pfp is Hugo doing the pistol only run

[jolly geyser]

Imps are like, the least dangerous enemies for me. I kinda don't get why people say that they're unpredictable and super powerful. Ye they deal a ton of damage but they can be easily avoided. The only enemy that I find threatening as fuck is the Cyber Mancubus.

[rocky summit]

Am I the only one that likes the dry bones Wasteland hell? Maybe if it was partially Wasteland and partially lava, hell fire castle and gore

You know combined hells from 2016 and eternal

And maybe sprinkling a little bit of Doom 3 hell

[rocky summit]

It's because it's caused by usually one tiny little mistake for one tiny little thing

[jolly geyser]

I only had around 3 deaths to Imps in my 4 NM runs and more than 20 to Cyber-Mancubi

[rocky summit]

For me was the soldiers and the hell-raisers early game

[jolly geyser]

Soldiers are noobs

[rocky summit]

I always seem to get caught and their charge to blast or their lasers at the wrong time

[halcyon bear]

[slim pebble]

My first death was from a soldier lol

[rocky summit]

That exactly how I felt

[jolly geyser]

playing doom 2016 while in bad mood will make your mood even worse, the bad mood legit made me play like shit in the past week and made me die 20 times in a row in an arena I never died to before

[rocky summit]

Thats

Weirdly true

It's very easy to die and doom 2016

Especially when your mind isn't completely there

[jolly geyser]

yeah

when I was in good mood, I literally played like a fucking lightning and was basically unstoppable, even had the balls to play UN until I died due to a platforming fail in Foundry

[rocky summit]

You know I think I prefer the chain gun in 2016 then the chain gun in eternal, it looks better and has a more satisfying sound ya know.

2016 chain gun sounds more nice and meaty

[jolly geyser]

never played Eternal so can't judge. but I think the Chaingun in 2016 feels so satisfying to use especially with mobile turret mod, and it's more friendly to the original Chaingun design from Classic DOOM

[rocky summit]

But you've at least seen the weapons im eternal right?

[jolly geyser]

Yeah

[rocky summit]

Cuz the plasma gun on the other hand...

Got a major upgrade

[jolly geyser]

I kinda feel like the Plasma Rifle from 2016 is better in terms of design, but Eternal's Plasma Rifle in terms of power probably

[rocky summit]

Design?

[jolly geyser]

How it looks, and sounds

[rocky summit]

What do you like about its looks because I completely hate how it looks in 2016

[jolly geyser]

I like its sleek and advanced look

[rocky summit]

I guess I can understand they were going for a more realistic plasma gun

[jolly geyser]

It also looks like a bit like the Plasma Gun from DOOM 3, but more advanced and white

[rocky summit]

If the Doom Eternal plasma gun didn't have all the shiny purple lights on it, would you like it?

[jolly geyser]

It almost works exactly the same like in DOOM 3, but it's more powerful in DOOM 2016 due to mods

[jolly geyser]

In fact that is what I like about it lol. I just feel like the rifle itself is made from plastic

[rocky summit]

Can we just talk about who made the rocket launcher from eternal

It looks like it was made in hell with Argent energy.

[jolly geyser]

ah yes... the almighty rocket launcher that uses hell energy

I personally love it very much and the SFX are way beyond awesome

it makes me hungry

I like Eternal's Combat Shotgun design over the one in 2016 as well

Don't really know what to say about Ballista, I'd say it's more unique than the Gauss Cannon but both are equal in my heart

[rocky summit]

It seems like in 2016 the RD explosion is more powerful than the actual rocket itself.

[jolly geyser]

remote detonation is fun to use

[rocky summit]

What about combat shotgun

[jolly geyser]

only use lock-on burst when there's a summoner or Cyber-Mancubus, or a boss

[jolly geyser]

almighty

I also have an unpopular opinion that people would call me as a heretic for expressing about.

I find the Combat Shotgun (Modded) more fun to use than SSG.

[rocky summit]

As a full auto fan Eternal combat shotgun is my go-to just for looks

[rocky summit]

Again as a full auto fan I agree

Plus the combat shotgun in 2016 is a little too fat for me

[jolly geyser]

Thiccness is important when it comes to weapons

Ignore those who care about the gigantic cheeks of the Hell Knight. I care about the thiccness of the Combat Shotgun and HAR

[rocky summit]

Without mods, CS in 2016 is just as bad as the CS in Doom 3

[jolly geyser]

Yeah, it's fucking ass

Barely dealing any damage to enemies unless you kiss them in the face with it. Not saying that it is bad but not really fun to use.

One of my complaints about this game is the insta-death when you fall off the map in 2016

Also Impact Compensation, annoying as fuck

Cutscenes are good but I wish if they were skippable

[rocky summit]

I was a little disappointed that Eternal didn't have the unique deaths by demons, instead you just explode or stun your toe and fall

[jolly geyser]

Death scenes in 2016 were really good

[rocky summit]

He made the demons seem more dangerous

[jolly geyser]

Dying to the zombie and seeing him eat my flesh makes me feel like shit, man...

[rocky summit]

Especially with the skinny boney Revenant just ripping your arm off and beating you with it.

[jolly geyser]

It's a good way of punishing you for playing bad

[jolly geyser]

"Oh so you died to a zombie? Fucking watch him eat you alive."

[rocky summit]

What does the imp do again

[jolly geyser]

I think it just removes your heart or something.

Dunno, barely died to Imps in all of my playthroughs

[rocky summit]

I wonder what it would look like if the mancubus had a unique death animation

[jolly geyser]

Face sit

[rocky summit]

He would melt you with this fire

You know I actually have a Theory about mancubi

[jolly geyser]

Go ahead

[rocky summit]

So you know that hugo stated that the demons in 2016 and in Eternal are in the same hell.

[jolly geyser]

Yes

[rocky summit]

The mancubus arm cannons are completely biological in 2016

[jolly geyser]

Men in Black 3 moment

[rocky summit]

But the mancubus in eternal has mechanical arm cannons, do you think that species of mancubus isnt born with arm cannons and given buy the UAC

[jolly geyser]

hold on, lemme read the codex

"Mancubi have taken their disgusting physical condition and turned it into a weapon. As they reach maturity, a chitinous growth begins to form over each hand, creating a hard sheltered "barrel". As the flesh inside decomposes, a noxious effluvium begins to leak from the barrel. The Mancubus can spew this discharge from the barrel over a remarkable distance. The volitale goo ignites under the tremendous pressure, creating a highly effective biomechanical flamethrower."

[rocky summit]

do you think maybe that the mancubus in eternal is actually a younger 2016 mancubus?

One that hasn't gone through the whole natural biochemical weapon in armor phase yet?

[jolly geyser]

The Mancubus, hulking behemoth of the demon world, bears notable differences from those of its kind first encountered by the UAC expedition team on Mars. Unlike its brethren which wore a naturally occurring armored carapace, this variation shows clear signs of pre-existing man-made modifications. Armor-plating augmentation to its exterior and a sophisticated arm-mounted weapon system indicate a clear intent to upgrade and weaponize the fighting capacity of the Mancubus, whose heavy stature and resilience make it a formidable threat in battle. This is Eternal's codex

[rocky summit]

Oh....nevermind

[jolly geyser]

So they were modified

[rocky summit]

They stole my idea

Now I feel a little stupid

[jolly geyser]

lmfao, thieves

[rocky summit]

But at the same time I don't because I was able to come up with that by myself

Without codex

[jolly geyser]

you knew it by heart

true doom fan spotted

[rocky summit]

Oh wait the codex indicates that they are a different species

I was wondering if 2016 was a more older Elder mancubus

Like maybe along with their whole bio armor metamorphosis their face sort of change as well

[jolly geyser]

That's possible

[rocky summit]

The summoner's are just extinct in eternal

Like they are all gone

[jolly geyser]

Well, they've become the Spirits

I think

[rocky summit]

Yeah you're right

[jolly geyser]

The ones you have to kill with that Plasma Rifle mod

[rocky summit]

You got to go Ghostbuster mode

[jolly geyser]

Imagine if they called it the Ghostbuster mod

I mean, it kills spirits

[rocky summit]

Thankful with the patche they reduce the amount of time it takes to kill them

With the microwave beam

[jolly geyser]

Nice. I find the Stun Bomb very good and useful in 2016 tbh

[rocky summit]

I think everybody does

Heatblast is so unhelpful in 2016

[jolly geyser]

But they probably didn't include the Stun Bomb as a Plasma Rifle mod in Eternal because you've already got the Ice Bomb

Which has the same effects from what I've seen

[rocky summit]

No

[jolly geyser]

never mind

[rocky summit]

Microwave beam is pretty cool too

Acts like stun bomb but only on one demon

And if you hold it on them long enough it makes them explode and faltered demons around him

[jolly geyser]

Yeah seen that in TAG 1's trailer

[rocky summit]

I like to just hit a baron in midair and sent him Crashing Down

[jolly geyser]

Eternal looks pretty cool. I seriously can't wait to try it out someday

[rigid bridge]

You haven’t played doom eternal?

[jolly geyser]

Not yet

[rigid bridge]

Damn I thought you did

[jolly geyser]

I wish, I'd need a new PC for it though which I won't get anytime soon, but all I can do is hope.

so far I tried every DOOM game aside from DOOM RPG 2, Final DOOM, and Eternal

those three motherfuckers. also DOOM VFR

but that one is already hated so

[rigid bridge]

why is doom vfr hated

[jolly geyser]

dunno, I just see people criticizing it all the time

not judging it myself though, cause I never even tried it.

[rigid bridge]

lol

[prisma forge]

tbh I rarely use microwave beam's explode

[sour owl]

if you don’t have a PlayStation controller, it’s really awkward to play

[royal chasm]

why do i read stuff like this

[hoary quest]

that makes 2 of us now

[vagrant moss]

hello guys

who want play with us in doom multiplayer

we need one more player

we have 3 players we need one more

@everyone

[flint dune]

I still don’t understand why people think @ everyone would work in a server with 80k+ members. Or why they think it’s a good idea to even attempt it.

[prisma forge]

how else can you tell folks to join your amogus party of 13 yr olds

[strong scroll]

hello

[wispy verge]

amogus

[prisma forge]

pal why the sad face

[halcyon bear]

His name is literally vaj

[wispy verge]

butter

[loud ibex]

Why was it so fast to download on my computer but so slow on all of y'alls computers

[sweet glacier]

I can never find a single match 😦

[sour owl]

internet speeds vary between households

[loud ibex]

I know that but...

[loud ibex]

Did you just copy my swag

[sour owl]

yes

[loud ibex]

[brittle blade]

this game is better than eternal

[worthy sentinel]

Hey, I made some really cool 4 player Coop snapmaps back in the day, they are class based horde mode room progression and boss battle style similar to cod zombies, they are still very fun to play, does anyone still play snapmap on ps4? If so DM me, I wanna play!

[brisk osprey]

is it true that 2016 changed what BFG stood for?

[wispy verge]

I think yes

[brisk osprey]

oh

[flint dune]

I mean 2016 changed its name in the codex, but the community still refers to it as the Big Fucking Gun.

[elder meadow]

Morning lads

[halcyon bear]

I like how it describes the bfg 9000 as a weapon that boils the body fluids and body fat of its targets

Yum

[royal chasm]

it was originally designed as a rapid barbecue tool

[slim pebble]

And it only targets things with a trace of Argent energy.

[chrome basin]

would't that fry every electronic on base, then? along with Doomguy himself (and Samuel, etc.)

[royal chasm]

don't think about it too hard, you'll hurt yourself

[fiery yoke]

I'm pretty sure the BFG doesn't target the shooter

Sammy has that shield around him

[halcyon bear]

The older version of the bfg did fry everything. It was refined

[elder meadow]

Guys I can tell you an very easy way to beat the Cyberdemon

If you shoot the BFG beside the Cyberdemon and hold up the weapon wheel and you keep the weapon wheel up it will drain its health very easily and fast

[royal chasm]

Yes, this is why in Eternal the BFG damage is based on distance traveled and not time-in-air

that's a commonly exploited glitch

Well, not a glitch really. I guess exploit would be technically correct

[rigid bridge]

A bug

[untold stirrup]

yes

[rancid glacier]

Eternal is so good I would feel guilty using an exploit on purpose

[radiant crow]

are 2016s multiplayer achievements still doable or are the servers too empty at this point?

[halcyon bear]

Its luck for new players basically

[radiant crow]

yikes

[wispy verge]

when did it die though?

Around the launch of Eternal or way before that?

[halcyon bear]

Theres a reason they made battlemode and not a deathmatch

[jolly geyser]

well I can't even play DOOM 2016 MP because of a stupid bug

[wispy verge]

so way before the launch

[proper cargo]

is there a way to increase the mouse speed in the menu?

it is very very slow

[jolly geyser]

go to [MOUSE AND KEYBOARD] in settings

[proper cargo]

and change mouse look speed?

because that doesn't work

it changes the mouse look speed while in-game, but in the menus the mouse is still very very slow

[jolly geyser]

huh weird, I don't know about that...

maybe make it even faster?

[proper cargo]

I have found a couple of old steam threads of people complaining about the same thing but no solution

I just tried it out, the 'mouse look speed' option has no influence on the mouse movement speed in the menus

I set it to the lowest value and exited out of the menu, looking was very slow, I changed it to the max value, exited out of the menu, looking was dizzyingly fast, but throughout the mouse movement speed in the menus was unchanged

[rigid bridge]

what is your normal mouse speed set to

on your computer in general

[proper cargo]

in windows it is set to 16 out of 20

[rigid bridge]

but is it good

[fresh matrix]

sup

[proper cargo]

is what good?

[jolly geyser]

imagine if there were prowlers in the campaign

[mint monolith]

Harbingers

[flint dune]

Honestly that’d probably suck. You’ve got no way of safely dodging them if they teleport behind you.

[jolly geyser]

true that

[slim pebble]

A teleporting enemy is a great addition tbh

[dark vapor]

Penis

[worthy sentinel]

Hey guys! We’re two dudes playing snapmap, just need 2 more for a 4 player coop mission thats really challanging and fun! Dm me and lets fight like hell!

[jolly geyser]

What platform?

[dark vapor]

Ps4

[jolly geyser]

You're the other dude? Well that sucks lmao, I have DOOM 2016 on PC unfortunately

[wispy verge]

So I thought about doing a wrong mods only run

which was a fine idea until I thought about the plasma gun

I dont use it at all

So my question is, which is the more unpopular mod for it?

[chrome basin]

Heat Blast easily

Stun Bomb is one of the best mods in the game

[wispy verge]

mm ok

yeah I probably wont use it anyway

[chrome basin]

Heat Blast requires you actually use the rifle, hence why it's bad. Stun Bomb you just add to your sequence of weapons switches, to stun and lock down whatever you're fighting before you tear it apart with your other weapons

it's basically 2016's Ice Bomb

[velvet stump]

Unfortunately?

[wispy verge]

ah

[jolly geyser]

well because I can't play with them lol

[wispy verge]

haha get it console bad

[halcyon bear]

Blame device not your lack of skill

Pure Chad move

[halcyon bear]

Absolutely necessary In nightmare especially early game

[jolly geyser]

if it wasn't for you, I would have never used it tbf.

stun bomb helps so much especially when there's a shithead that got too close to you, or a Cyber-Mancubus

[halcyon bear]

Its actually criminal the plasma gets no love for this.. as much as it should

[wispy verge]

*completes multiple nightmare runs with only using the plasma rifle for spraying stuff early game*

[jolly geyser]

I'm currently doing a NM run without ammo upgrades, I'll be fucked for sure

20 shotgun shells aaaa

[velvet stump]

I hate it when people say that in 2016 you just just one weapon and stuff, cause I be quick swapping like crazy in 2016

Favorite combo for Caco's is
Shotgun
Shotgun bomb
Gauss cannon
And maybe a super Shotgun Blast if it isn't dead
(I think this is how it goes, since during a fight my body just kinda does it automatically without me putting much thought into it)

[mint monolith]

my favorite weapon for everything no matter what it was was

Remote Detonation

[velvet stump]

That's actually my least favorite mod 💀

[mint monolith]

I have no idea why that would be because Lock On is useless

[velvet stump]

Nah I use lock on and it works wonders

[mint monolith]

not nearly as much wonders as jagged shrapnel and double explosions

[velvet stump]

Ngl the remote detonation just doesn't match my playstyle

[mint monolith]

my playstyle is to kill everything

[halcyon bear]

This is absolutely true. You know how to use it it will shred

[velvet stump]

Why yes, I do also enjoy killing everything

[mint monolith]

it destroys everything in the game for one rocket

two explosions one rocket and jagged shrapnel to stunlock them or for things like Hell Knights they run at you and stagger

[velvet stump]

Also if you don't use punch on zombies you're crazy

[green mist]

should I play doom 2016 or just jump to doom eternal ?

[velvet stump]

2016 first

[green mist]

thanks

[velvet stump]

No problem

[chrome basin]

yeah i remember the days when i wouldn't punch zombies

what a buffoon i was, trying to line up pistol headshots

[velvet stump]

You have grown me boy

You gotta use punch on them fodder demons, especially zombies and imps

Great for getting them glory kills

[chrome basin]

idk that i've ever tried to cold glory an imp. i think it only works with the unarmed possessed fodder, where you can basically glory kill them instantly for free

[velvet stump]

I do wish that eternal had punch damage like 2016

[chrome basin]

punching imps still works, but usually gotta mix it up with at least some firepower

[velvet stump]

Yeah

3 punches alone can do it but it's better to do shotgun and then punch

[chrome basin]

yeah, i'd do that on my UN runs if my shottie wasn't stronk enough to one-shot them close-range

[velvet stump]

Also I remember I got this one glory kill on a possessed and possessed soldier

Can't seem to get it again

Where you just straight up snap their neck

Not the one where they get on their knees and you neck snap

[chrome basin]

i rarely recall specific glory kills, so i won't be much help there

[wispy verge]

huh strangely Ive been enjoying this wrong mod only run more

shredding shit with charged burst is so good

remote det is also poggers

same with the HAR Scope

[wispy verge]

Dont tend to enjoy early game much but damn, its been fun

[mint monolith]

the remote det was never the wrong mod in 2016

lock on is.

there is absolutely no reason to use it

[jolly geyser]

I feel like it's really useful in DOOM 2016, I swap mods because Remote Detonation is hella useful in multiple situations too though

[mint monolith]

I never used Lock on in Nightmare

[jolly geyser]

I always use it in my NM playthroughs

I'm doing my 4th NM run and I have prohibited myself from doing ammo upgrades

[wispy verge]

I never actually read the upgrades and the mastery

the name sounded underwhelming as hell

so yeah, thats why

[jolly geyser]

I'm probably the only one who finds the codex entries in 2016 fun to read

[mint monolith]

the mastered remote det explodes on demand but the rocket actually keeps going, so you detonate it near the monster and BOOM BOOM bigger explosions too and then they get filled with shrapnel that keeps hurting them

all for ONE ROCKET

vs wasting 3 because you never learned how to aim

even the summoners fall to remote det, you'll see them teleport and stagger right after

[wispy verge]

yeah

kinda surprised it made it to release tbh lmao

[mint monolith]

Eternal ruined it to make lock on usable

[wispy verge]

though Rich Get Richer did too

[mint monolith]

it doesn't even do more damage than a regular rocket in eternal

[jolly geyser]

lock-on burst really helps me much against heavies in 2016, I love it, but apparently that's just me

[wispy verge]

Kinda struggle to lock on sometimes

[jolly geyser]

You just need to focus on aiming while using it

[wispy verge]

I suck at aiming so thats probably just me ):

[jolly geyser]

no I suck at aiming too but

[halcyon bear]

And just feels satisfying as hell

When you time them right

[chrome basin]

you don't even have to det the remote-det for the 2x damage effect. you can simply fire and forget, and if it hits, 2x damage. makes it super useful for weapon quickswitching

so it doubles as both the best way to deal with fodder at a distance (especially for the ammo cost), and it deals great damage quickly against bigger bads without having to worry about activating its mod inbetween weapon combos

every starting player assumes lock-on burst is where it's at, but yeah, once you master quickswitching, there's very few uses for it compared to better kill or control methods

[halcyon bear]

New players will definitely go for the easier option

[jolly geyser]

I just use Remote-Detonation for low-tier demons like Zombies, Imps, and all those mfs. Lock-on Burst for heavies such as Mancubi, Cyber-Mancubi, Barons, and bosses.

Also Remote-Detonation, I find it a necessity in Argent Facility level. Lock-on comes in handy later.

[mint monolith]

Lock on never comes in handy as no matter what it is remote detonation kills it

[jolly geyser]

well from my own preference it's actually useful, perhaps just for my play-style though

[chrome basin]

lock-on's handy for summoners assuming one isn't simply camping their spawns with foreknowledge to delete them the instant they appear

especially before getting the guass/siege. and especially especially since argent facility / tower / kadinger are the best time to achieve lock on's mastery challenge

[mint monolith]

Remote detonation for summoners.

[jolly geyser]

chainsaw for summoners

too bad, I can't kill them with the chainsaw in my current playthrough because I got only 3 fuel cells and I gotta save them for the zombies.

no ammo upgrades be like

[halcyon bear]

Dev rounds

[jolly geyser]

best for VEGA Core level

[tepid plover]

Wish there was more crosshair customization

[jolly geyser]

that could have been nice

[verbal berry]

ive been having problems with the steam port of DOOM 2016 and like 5 minutes into a game my pc will crash and no error screen pops up and my spec are decent i

have saphire 5500xt with 2700x with 16GB of ram clocked at 3200 can anybody help

[jolly geyser]

try validating your game files

[verbal berry]

i have as well as clean my registry

[jolly geyser]

you can atleast make it to the settings in the game, right?

[verbal berry]

yeah it only crashes while im in game

[jolly geyser]

if so, try changing the graphics driver, if it's VULKAN you should perhaps go for OpenGL, if the opposite then you should reverse

[verbal berry]

ok ill try that thank you so much

[jolly geyser]

no problem. I just want to know if it'll work

[verbal berry]

It works thank you I’ve beaten the game on Xbox but I really wanted to play it on pc I appreciate ur help

[jolly geyser]

glad to help. 👍

[analog tapir]

Are there still people who play multiplayer in 2016?

[analog tapir]

Do people in this discord ever like make custom games to jsut play?

[royal chasm]

valve hacked the world and got the infinite money glitch. those servers will outlive humanity

[elder meadow]

ÜWÜ

[karmic nebula]

Hello I finished the game in ultraviolence

[jolly geyser]

good job man

[loud ibex]

I working on that I havent died yet but granted I am only on the 3rd or 4th mission I dont remember

[halcyon bear]

Hell yeah

[karmic nebula]

The game is large af

[desert coyote]

Nah

Very short

They should add more fights

[desert coyote]

Nice

Its not hard if you get the gameplay

[flint dune]

Game’s 5 years old, they aren’t going to do that, heh.
Unless you beeline to the finish, I don’t really find 2016 all that short. It’s decently long for an FPS campaign, in terms of gameplay, and the incentive on exploring helps lengthen the experience.

Once you know the game you can casually finish it within 5 hours or less though.

[jolly geyser]

I have around 70 hours and planning to spend even more. I'm already doing my 4th NM run without ammo upgrades

It isn't boring at all

And the best thing is that you don't have limited ammo or anything, but if you like a challenge, just don't pick up upgrades

[flint dune]

Agreed. Doom 2016’s campaign has great replayability, though the unskippable “cutscenes” ruin that factor a bit. Like Samuel locking you in a room for a good five minutes.

[jolly geyser]

Agreed, I truly wish if they were skippable but eh, I'll forgive all that since it's an amazing game.

[fiery yoke]

I just use the unskippable cutscenes for a food break

[jolly geyser]

Lol that's a good idea

[fiery yoke]

Because if I play 2016 it's when I can go for extended periods uninterrupted

[fallow swift]

You can go and get mcdonalds before they finish lol

[prisma smelt]

I've come to this server in hopes that someone can finally fix my issue with the game after many months.
the issue is that i cannot play the game. I click the play button on steam nad the game boots up, but only as a black screen. it also shows up on my second monitor and not my first. the only way to close out of it is to open task manager and in task manager it says the game is not responding. please help me

[jolly geyser]

did you try validating the game files?

[prisma smelt]

I’ve tried everything I can think of which includes that

[jolly geyser]

maybe try changing your display resolution

[prisma smelt]

I’ll try that tomorrow since I’m in bed

[wispy verge]

for the first time in my doom 2016 career, the level geometry failed to load

[jolly geyser]

lol rip

[wispy verge]

at least the bucket loaded

[wispy verge]

Wrong mods only run finished

was a lot more fun thats for sure

ya'll right, fuck lock on lmao

although the gatling rotator and precision bolt didnt convince me of ever using them at all

dont have anything to say about heat blast cause I barely used that

the HAR scope is kinda decent I guess? I still prefer micro missile though

charged burst is really awesome too

Decided to not use the BFG in the 3 big fights in Argent D'Nur

I was not ready for the 3 barons which I thought to be only 2 + the mancubi and whatever

[maiden dirge]

What's the best set of runes?

[wispy verge]

I always use In Flight Mobility, Armored Offensive and the one that makes demons drop BFG ammo when mastered

dont know the runes' exact names

[maiden dirge]

That's fine I know what you're talking about

Ty

[wispy verge]

Ammo Boost

Vacuum, Dazed and Confused, Seek and Destroy, Savagery, Blood Fueled and Intimacy is Best seem utterly useless

[fiery yoke]

Nah most aren't useless

[maiden dirge]

Seek and destroy is great for getting out of bad situations

[sour owl]

if I hear someone talking shit about seek and destroy again imma start ripping and tearing

[wispy verge]

yep all still seem useless

[hidden idol]

enter an arena
jump around and accidentally spam shift
realize it isn't doom eternal
fall off and die

[elder meadow]

true

[wispy verge]

same but without the trying to dash and the realisation part

until I get In Flight Mobility at least

[hidden idol]

i got too used to the reset system in eternal lmao

[wispy verge]

Im really glad they added that

[maiden dirge]

What reset system?

[wispy verge]

imagine dying in a UN run because you accidentally fell off a ledge

[wispy verge]

if you fall off it puts you back up and takes away some hp

[maiden dirge]

F

[maiden dirge]

I fuckin love that addition

Best improvement

[hidden idol]

ikr

2016 had a longer loading screen so it was a bit annoying when you died

[maiden dirge]

Yeah, like the rune trials (which I'm angry they removed) take so long to load for these short attempts

Namely armored defensive, difficult as hell

[wispy verge]

oh so its not just my slow HDD?

Thought they loaded so slow because of my drive

[maiden dirge]

No it's not

God if you think it's bad on pc imagine having to do it on switch

(Like me)

[wispy verge]

OOF

[hidden idol]

and the main menu looks like a f2p game

[maiden dirge]

On switch?

But yeah it does

[prisma forge]

ye 2016 loading times are a big reason why i dont boot it up too much

[wispy verge]

does anyone else have ammo crates and preater point people appear white for a split second?

[maiden dirge]

No...

[prisma forge]

https://youtu.be/rrlZ1Yas8PA

[wispy verge]

is it just me or the Hell Guards fight is poggers

Best boss fight imo

[flint dune]

They’re my favorite Boss in the franchise.

[wispy verge]

I can see why

[halcyon bear]

Yeah who would have though a fight with a worm would be that epic

[wispy verge]

yup

[jolly geyser]

I don't use Armored Offensive anymore, it's so useless on NM imo.

[wispy verge]

I take a lot of damage, I glory kill a lot

[chrome stag]

Glory Kills on NM are pretty much suicide in the more heated arenas

[jolly geyser]

Yeah

[chrome stag]

No I-frames after glory kills in 2016

And those pinky bastards dash faster than you can hit the space bar

[jolly geyser]

Totally agreed.

The runes I main in my NM playthroughs are:
In-Flight Mobility - Vacuum - Ammo Boost

[chrome stag]

I barely slogged my way through 2016 after playing Eternal

Trying to stick to a somewhat-Eternal playstyle was really stupid

So I took all those glory kill runes foolishly and stubbornly

[jolly geyser]

I never used the glory kill runes in any of my NM playthroughs

[chrome stag]

Yeah I realized those were a mistake too late into the game

[wispy verge]

eh, Ive only had that happen a couple times throughout like 4 runs

plus I dont really care anyway

its part of the fun

[chrome stag]

It hurts so much to admit I was stuck for like two hours in the Vega complex arena lol

[wispy verge]

the last arena of it?

Today was the first time I tried clearing it without the BFG

Was definitely a lot more fun and challenging

somehow beat it first try

then I went onto die in the last arena of Argent D'Nur multiple times

[chrome stag]

There was so much BFG ammo just strewn around that arena but I was too stubborn to use it

[wispy verge]

yeah the bottom part is just use the BFG now fool

[chrome stag]

I ended up using it on the pinkies then siege mode on the trio of barons

[wispy verge]

While on the topic of the Gauss Cannon, does anyone use the Precision Bolt mod over Siege mode?

had to use it in this run and it was just kinda meh

the mastery was kinda cool but other than that, Siege mode every day

[chrome stag]

I used it once for the two-birds-one-stone objective

[wispy verge]

kill two cacos with one shot, in Necropolis?

[chrome stag]

Yeah that one

[wispy verge]

yeah I ended up not doing some of the challenges

[chrome stag]

You can probably just siege mode them but I thought it would be more fun to line them up and PB them

[wispy verge]

other than the ones that are the do x of a specific glory kill

[wispy verge]

Definitely easier with Siege

[jolly geyser]

I completed it once without the BFG but that was

Hell

[wispy verge]

was actually pretty pog

I wanted to write good but wrote pog

[jolly geyser]

Yeah

You did it on NM?

[wispy verge]

Yes

Im nowhere near even decent tbh

[jolly geyser]

Good job

[jolly geyser]

Quit lying to yourself. VEGA Core is the hardest level in the game

Also the hardest arena I ever found, was that coolants room

Where everytime you shot one of them, a horde of demons spawn. I found it pretty hard but I managed to do it without the BFG

[wispy verge]

oh yeah

[halcyon bear]

Its really all about timing

[wispy verge]

Dumbass me quickly shot out all cells and got myself cornered by a baron and other foes

[jolly geyser]

Same, I did it intentionally though

[jolly geyser]

It really is. It depends on where you are and the types of enemies around you

With a Cyber-Mancubus near you, it's truly a suicidial task

[wispy verge]

also a Cyber Manc just disappeared in the middle of a glory kill

[jolly geyser]

Bug

[halcyon bear]

! Teleporting cyber manc!

[jolly geyser]

It's not impossible since it is supported, assisted, and blessed by the VR Oculus Rift designed by the almighty John Carmack

[wispy verge]

we should just start referring to the Cyber Manc as the gamer

[jolly geyser]

That's actually a good name

[wispy verge]

I mean they even shoot acid that sticks to surfaces

perfect match

[jolly geyser]

Toxic gamer it seems

[velvet stump]

I use the Gauss Cannon on them, and boom, instant glorykill

[mint monolith]

I used remote detonate on summoners

[wispy verge]

Anyone use Gatling Rotator?

[mint monolith]

I found it better than mobile turret

[wispy verge]

it seemed weaker

but maybe thats just because of visuals and sound

[mint monolith]

Per hit bullets do more damage and it doesnt burn ammo as fast in the one where refilling is not a guarantee

Also I liked the effect of the stronger bullets

[wispy verge]

might have to test them more closely

[velvet stump]

The seperate Gatling is definitely my favorite

What

Dude that bot is so annoying

[jolly geyser]

Gatling is actually useful? Well I'm a dumbass

[maiden dirge]

Is the super turbo Turkey puncher 3 arcade machine thingie useful?

Does it do anything?

[velvet stump]

Mobile Turret X10 better

[velvet stump]

For fun

[maiden dirge]

And that's it?

[jolly geyser]

Well it'll help you in getting weapon points

If you find all secrets

[maiden dirge]

I'm just looking for the secret classic lvl lever thingie in lvl 8

I cannot find it for the life of me

[velvet stump]

The startup for Gatling takes too long

Mobile Turret instantaneous

[mint monolith]

Well no its actually instant too

[jolly geyser]

Lazarus Labs isn't it?

[mint monolith]

Once you have the mastery the stronger bullets happen if you just start it with the rotator

[maiden dirge]

No the one before it, the facility

[halcyon bear]

[velvet stump]

Also Mobile Turret is SATISFYING

[halcyon bear]

Although I don't use it much moloch has a point

[mint monolith]

For 15 seconds its satisfying and then nothing big dies fast enough

[halcyon bear]

Basically dev rounds but a shit ton more of them

[velvet stump]

Fun on groups + heavy demons

[mint monolith]

Rotator is fun in the same situations though

[maiden dirge]

Do you know where it is?

[velvet stump]

Yeah but it's a bit slowe

[mint monolith]

It never actually felt slower

[halcyon bear]

You're still getting more damage though

Even if it is

[mint monolith]

More damage per bullet for sure

Without burning through them all

[jolly geyser]

You know that circular door that opens temporarily?

[maiden dirge]

Yeah

[jolly geyser]

Ok don't get inside but instead jump on the the structure that the door is built into, then go right and climb the ledges

[maiden dirge]

Ok

[jolly geyser]

You will find two secrets in that location, one is mega armor I believe which is inside a mini cave, once you get outside that mini cave you should look on your left and you'll find the lever

[maiden dirge]

Ok ty

[jolly geyser]

Then you'll have to do a strafe jump

In flight mobility rune is preferred for getting to the lever

(I'm not too good at explaining stuff but that's what I could do lol)

[maiden dirge]

I found it ty

[jolly geyser]

Np

[velvet stump]

I wish they kept the doom 2016 Design of the zomhies

I know there's a lore explanation why

But still

[nocturne escarp]

guys how to beat cyberdemon second level

first level was pretty easy i just jumped around and shot him with micro missles + gauss cannon

[jolly geyser]

Just SSG + Gauss Cannon

[nocturne escarp]

Ok

[wispy verge]

just like phase one? lol

[nocturne escarp]

I tried but failed

[wispy verge]

how though

[nocturne escarp]

I used micro missiles + gauss cannon

[wispy verge]

imagine not throwing all of your stuff at it

[sand tinsel]

Shoot it untill it dies

If he shoots the rockets at you while the walls are up, just move left to right

[nocturne escarp]

Ok

[sand tinsel]

What difficulty are you on btw?

[royal chasm]

be nice, not everyone understands quickswapping

[wispy verge]

joke

[jolly geyser]

Reached Kadingir Sanctum in my (no-ammo upgrades) NM run. God I'm already scared of what's coming in VEGA Core

[royal chasm]

Kadingir Sanctum scares me much more than vega core

[jolly geyser]

Kadingir Sanctum is piss easy imo

VEGA Core is the problem unless you spam BFG

[wispy verge]

gotta be one of my faves

[royal chasm]

it's the hardest level lmao

[jolly geyser]

weird

[sand tinsel]

Kadingir sanctum becomes easy as hell (pun intended) after you get the seige mod

[jolly geyser]

I don't get siege mode by Kadingir Sanctum lmfao, yet it's still easy

[sand tinsel]

Yeah only place where its hard for me is on the last arena

Started a no mods, suit up grades, argent ball upgrades nm run and currently on argent facilty

[royal chasm]

yall are out of your minds. the game is a cakewalk after the sanctum

[sand tinsel]

Except vega core

[royal chasm]

nah vega core aint so bad

[sand tinsel]

Its harder than kandingir sactum for me

[royal chasm]

they give you enough platforming options that you can dodge most everything

[sand tinsel]

¯\_(ツ)_/¯

[jolly geyser]

It isn't bad but way more difficult than any other level if you decide to ignore the BFG

[jolly geyser]

are you following the rules of the brawler mode?

[sand tinsel]

Wait what

I was just doing a (stuff i said before) nm run

[jolly geyser]

https://www.reddit.com/r/Doom/comments/evd7k2/how_can_you_make_doom_2016_runs_feel_fresh_again/ I really don't like this but I thought you were following it

[sand tinsel]

Yeah i wasnt doing that

I was thinking of taking runes but now i think ill wont take runes aswell

[jolly geyser]

this is a suicide lmfao

[sand tinsel]

Lol

I havent got much more to do in the game and un seems harder than this

[jolly geyser]

I'm already doing a no ammo upgrades NM run and it's way harder than before. Much more fun because I use the chainsaw and my tactical thinking in the arena though

[sand tinsel]

Yeah even last foundry arena foundry was a bit harder without the lockon

[jolly geyser]

So I mostly use the chainsaw on Imps, soldiers, and zombies because they only require one fuel cell. Chainsawing a Hell Knight isn't a good idea IMO because it will take 3 fuel cells I think, which is all you've got with no ammo upgrades

[sand tinsel]

Yeah

[royal chasm]

almost like it was designed with the bfg in mind

[sand tinsel]

Lol

[jolly geyser]

of course it was lol, there are tons of BFG cells in the arenas

[royal chasm]

whoa you don't say\

[jolly geyser]

BFG makes the game piss easy so I just choose to ignore it. but on this run I'll for sure need it because of the very limited ammo

[sand tinsel]

I usually use bfg if im low on health and if theres tons of demons

[jolly geyser]

I use it for the challenges

[sand tinsel]

I dont do the challenges most of the time

[jolly geyser]

I do them for the delicious weapon points

Also this no-ammo upgrades run is surprisingly making me play better than ever before

[sand tinsel]

Lol

I havent even played eternal but after eternal iv gotten better at 2016 lol

[jolly geyser]

I didn't play Eternal tbh

[sand tinsel]

Im waiting till we get wifi and then get enternal for pc

[jolly geyser]

good thing about 2016 is that it gives you so much freedom. you want all upgrades and the ultimate 60 shotgun shells? sure go ahead. you want to use your tactical thinking more instead of relying on few weapons for almost every task? just don't pick up certain upgrades

[sand tinsel]

Playing without air mobility feels very weird

[jolly geyser]

agreed

in-flight mobility is a very good rune

[sand tinsel]

Yep i have it enabled everytime

[jolly geyser]

Armored Offensive is really useless on NM imo

Because you rarely glory-kill

[sand tinsel]

Glory killing is very risky on NM

[jolly geyser]

And you don't even get that much armor when you glory kill with armored offensive on NM

[sand tinsel]

Vacuum is a very good rune aswell

[jolly geyser]

Glory kills with satisfaction until you find out that a Hell Knight was already charging onto you.

[sand tinsel]

Oof

The thing i hate most is imps clinging onto walls

On early lvls

[wispy verge]

legit unhittable

[sand tinsel]

Yeah

[jolly geyser]

eh, Imps were never a threat for me.

I only hate the Cyber-Mancubi

[sand tinsel]

Cyber mancubi arent that much harder than regular mancs for me

[jolly geyser]

I find them the hardest enemies in the whole game

[sand tinsel]

Two seiges kills manc and cyber manc so they arent much of a threat if you take them out early

Or rockets and one seige kills em faster

[jolly geyser]

I don't use Siege-mode because I find it kinda risky without the mastery

[sand tinsel]

True

But mastering it is pretty easy cuz of the abundence of possesed on research complex and lazurus

[royal chasm]

for cyber mancs I use mobile turret and BAM done

[maiden dirge]

What's the point of the remote detonator launcher mod?

[chrome basin]

to be awesome

#doom-2016 message

[halcyon bear]

You're really not getting hit anyways. Well when I playv

[sand tinsel]

Very good for small enemies

[halcyon bear]

You really should. It depends on when you use it and situational awareness

[maiden dirge]

So you're just gonna use the rocket launcher on an imp?

[halcyon bear]

Remote det is the best rocket mod

It shreds

[maiden dirge]

How?

[halcyon bear]

I'm guessing you use lock on ?

[maiden dirge]

Yeah

[halcyon bear]

You literally can one hit hellknights if you time it right

Lol

[maiden dirge]

I'm just stuck on the rune trial for rich get richer

[maiden dirge]

How does timing it make a difference to just hitting them?

[halcyon bear]

You can hit targets further plus with Jagged Shrapnel they keep taking damage and then with mastery you have a even more powerful hit. It's basically a huge damage boost compared to just a lock on function of a base rocket

By timing I mean your skill with it. If you're a new player then lock on is definitely easier to use

[maiden dirge]

Ohhh, I didn't take into account the upgrades/mastery. I'm on my first playthrough and I haven't gotten that mod yet

Lock on mastery is bs

[chrome basin]

to master all the weapons, you basically have to pre-plan the order in which you'll unlock and level everything up for the entire playthrough, or simply spend time replaying levels

mastering lockon is best done in argent tower/kadinger since you encounter a lot of summoners

without berserk powerups and without a ton of other stuff trying to kill you

[maiden dirge]

How do I do the micro missle mastery challenge?

[chrome basin]

easiest with a bunch of possessed/unwilling all slowly shambling around at once, but you can tag 4 (5?) enemies at once in any situation where you let them converge on you

[sand tinsel]

Wait it said 5 different demons?

[maiden dirge]

The challenge description makes it sound like you need to hit 4 different kinds of demons

[sand tinsel]

Yeah

[chrome basin]

i think it's 4 different ones in 5 seconds or something

[maiden dirge]

Yeah

[chrome basin]

well, to be clear, they don't have to be different TYPES of demons

[sand tinsel]

Ohh

[chrome basin]

just different demons

[maiden dirge]

Ohhhh

[sand tinsel]

I got it somehow and i was wondering how lol

[chrome basin]

yeah, 4 different types in 5 seconds would certainly be unreasonable

[maiden dirge]

Ok that makes more sense

[sand tinsel]

They could have just said 4 demons in 5sec lol

[chrome basin]

probably yeah

[sand tinsel]

Would have made it less confusing

[chrome basin]

anyway, but yes, using remote det is usually the best option against smallfry at mid to long range throughout the game

their movement is usually predictable so you just lead the shot a little bit, and have a large window to exploderize them with minimal effort

beats taking the time to try to snipe them with the assault rifle or waste plasma with the gauss cannon

[halcyon bear]

And with larger enemies the chip away at the health doesn't hurt but at close range lock on should do the trick

[chrome basin]

and then once you upgrade it to do 2x damage, it's awesome within weapon combos to deal max damage as quickly as possible (without worrying about wasting time for the lock on to activate). and note that it'll do the 2x damage without even having to manually remote det the rocket, you can simply fire and forget and when it hits it does the 2x

[halcyon bear]

I really enjoy a damage boost more than anything. It's just what i prefer

[viscid badge]

I've been playing a bunch of doom 2016 lately. I haven't played doom since like 2004 lol

It's really awesome

[wispy verge]

not really

[maiden dirge]

Any tips for the rich get richer rune trial?

I've been trying it for two hours

Well right after I said that I completed it

[royal chasm]

get armor

[wispy verge]

bruh

[wispy verge]

Pick up the armour shards laying around and rip & tear

also just dont die lmao

[jolly geyser]

Yeah that's why I find it useless a bit.

[jolly geyser]

Hmm I might give it a second chance

[maiden dirge]

There were armor shards?!?!

[wispy verge]

yes?

[maiden dirge]

Fml

[wispy verge]

rip

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/716611500801916930/871438885442445352/hello_chat_mastermind.gif

[maiden dirge]

So for one of the objectives in Lazarus Labs is to play a game of demons destruction. What does that mean?

[wispy verge]

theres a panel with a doom themed swipe game in the room where theres a hologram of doomguy and his death box

press E on it and play a little

[maiden dirge]

Ok ty

[wispy verge]

you also get a health recharge and armour

[jolly geyser]

T-pose Doomguy

[maiden dirge]

Wdym death box?

The tombstone?

[wispy verge]

the thing you wake up on in the beginning

[maiden dirge]

Ok

[toxic igloo]

Should I try UN on this game after doing it in eternal?

I’m scared I’m gonna fall off a ledge lol

[maiden dirge]

Fair lmao

[wispy verge]

Eh, theres no real reward for it like in Eternal(at least as far as I know)
Id just try to do deathless NM

just in case yknow

Dunno, the concept of only having one life is just not really fun for me

I suck though so thats probably one reason why

[toxic igloo]

I did ultra violence after not playing for a year and had very little problems past the first couple levels

Just spammed ssg, rockets, and gauss

Literally baked every demon from halfway through the game and on

[maiden dirge]

How'd you have gauss in first couple levels?

[wispy verge]

you can get it in a secret in like level 6 I think

[maiden dirge]

Yeah

[toxic igloo]

Yea

I’m saying once I got it that’s all I did

[maiden dirge]

But I don't really count that in the first couple levels

[wispy verge]

level 5*

[toxic igloo]

The first few levels are tough

[wispy verge]

Im so glad the game gives it to you so early on

[toxic igloo]

I mean you get the ballista by level 5 in eternal too

[wispy verge]

just such a fun tool

[toxic igloo]

It’s definitely nice to have

[wispy verge]

chopping up meatballs with destoryer blade is probably pretty fun too

[toxic igloo]

its great

what was multiplayer like?

it wasnt like battlemode in eternal was it

[wispy verge]

I only really got to play it with bots

was fun battling it out with them on hard though

[flint dune]

2016’s Multiplayer is nothing like Battlemode, no. It’s deathmatch, mostly team-based deathmatch. There is a feature where demon runes spawn and the player lucky enough to grab it in time gets to turn into a demon and go on a rampage for a while.

[toxic igloo]

oh I see

honestly doom becomes significantly easier once I get double jump and get air control II

just fly around and nothing can hit me

[wispy verge]

you could even be a Baron once youve played enough ):

[flint dune]

Yep. Although I always liked playing as the Spectre or Prowler the most

Playing as the Spectre was OP to be honest.

[wispy verge]

well since I only got to level 5(or 4, I dont remember) I only got to play as a Revenant

dont know if theres a way to go past that in offline mode

[wispy verge]

I wish air control was default

would have one more slot for all the other stuff

[slim pebble]

Instead of red team vs. blue team, it's Charlie team vs. Delta team.

[wispy verge]

the point is that you get to glory kill fellow marines

[jolly geyser]

You can get it in Argent Tower

[slim pebble]

I wish Caco and Spectre were in SnapMap. It irritates me to no end how they left them out (along with so many other things).

[jolly geyser]

They aren't in Snapmap? How

[wispy verge]

dont know the exact order of the maps and such

[wispy verge]

I thought they were..?

[jolly geyser]

I played multiple snapmaps and they had cacos

[wispy verge]

Im pretty sure Ive seen them in snapmaps

[jolly geyser]

They are in Snapmap lol

[slim pebble]

I'm talking about as playable demons

[jolly geyser]

oh

agreed

Smh I legit thought the protagonist in this game was the Marine from DOOM 3 for four years

[wispy verge]

doom lore™️

[jolly geyser]

I still like to think that this game is a sequel to DOOM 3 although it isn't

[halcyon bear]

The growth of the base size and technology would make sense

[toxic igloo]

I wish doom eternal could have captured the darker feel that 2016 had

still a great game but imagine it with the vibe of 2016

[jolly geyser]

in the very early trailers it kinda did

watch the E3 gameplay reveal of eternal

[jolly geyser]

yeah

[chrome basin]

be careful not to accidentally rail boost off the side of the map (jumping forward near railings has a chance of flinging you forward). i did that on my first UN attempt on argent tower in the area with the first summoner. i just stared at the game like 😠

[toxic igloo]

lol yeah thatd be bad

I might not do UN since the early game is frustrating imo... we'll see

[chrome basin]

yeah the early game is tough. once you make it past the tower, it gets a lot easier with how OP you can become with upgraded super shottie, siege, endless bfg ammo, etc.

i died a lot from 1-5, then had one stupid death in 6 where i rocketed a mancubus corpse point blank after chainsawing it trying to max out vacuum/ammo boost runes, but then after that i never died again

[maiden dirge]

Ssg mastery cheeses the game so damn hard

I was having trouble with the final encounter in kadingir and then I farmed to get mastery for ssg and after that I first tried it

[jolly geyser]

agreed, but it's cool

[maiden dirge]

It is

60 ssg shots is op

[jolly geyser]

lol you did kadingir in the exact same time as me. I didn't finish it with SSG mastery tho

And I only have 20 Shotgun shells

[maiden dirge]

Damn

Gj

I suck at the game even after 20+ hours of playtime

[jolly geyser]

Well I had around 50 hours so it makes sense

[jolly geyser]

Thanks bro

[maiden dirge]

I have 55 hours in eternal and can't get past lvl2 of dlc1

[jolly geyser]

I assume Eternal is harder than 2016 tbh

also I heard that DLC 1 is difficult as fuck, so

[maiden dirge]

It's a lot more strategie based, knowing when to use what (especially only having 24 shotgun shells max)

But 2016 is just shoot stuff till it dies

[jolly geyser]

hearing more about Eternal's ammo limit inspired me to do this no-ammo upgrades NM run

because it actually makes me think way more than before while playing.

still scared of what's coming in VEGA Core

but I think I'll use the BFG this time

[maiden dirge]

Idk what Vega core is

[jolly geyser]

oh boy

[maiden dirge]

I've only just completed Lazarus in my first plsythrough

Cyberdemon was fun

[jolly geyser]

2016's Cyberdemon is my favorite Cyberdemon although it doesn't resemble much of the OG design

but it's so damn badass

[maiden dirge]

It feels so good to dodge his attacks

That's the first time I found crouching useful

[jolly geyser]

Glory-killing bosses in this game makes you satisfied as fuck

[jolly geyser]

woo you crouch?

[maiden dirge]

Outside of camped spaces for sectets

[maiden dirge]

To avoid the sword beam thingies

[jolly geyser]

Interesting

I just jump and his attacks always miss

[maiden dirge]

Ah

Is there any way to replenish ammo in that fight?

[jolly geyser]

BFG it I believe, or just shoot it too much

[maiden dirge]

Ah

[jolly geyser]

Dealing a lot of damage to any boss will make it shit ammo

[maiden dirge]

Chainsaw II

[slim pebble]

It's an anti-frustration feature.

[jolly geyser]

Hell Guards

[jolly geyser]

Ye you can call it that lol

[dark vapor]

[maiden dirge]

Uh huh...

[dark vapor]

Bored

[maiden dirge]

Get your ass whooped in UNM or smth

[jolly geyser]

UN

Argent Facility combat makes me wanna dance in real life because of Harbinger, it's such a good track

[maiden dirge]

Wearing bass heavy headphones while playing DOOM 2016 is one of the best experiences ever

[jolly geyser]

totally fucking agreed

[maiden dirge]

I bought a $30 headset off amazon last year, mic was really good quality and still works perfectly over a year later

Best purchase I've ever made

[jolly geyser]

my family hears the game while I'm wearing headphones because of how loud it is lmfao

[maiden dirge]

Are your ears ok?

[jolly geyser]

not at all

[maiden dirge]

Oh ok

[maiden dirge]

It's all fun and games until you have to wear 3 sets of hearing aids when you're 60

[jolly geyser]

eternal suffering

[maiden dirge]

Girlfriends may be temporary

But doom is eternal

[jolly geyser]

Doom infinite

[maiden dirge]

Halo eternal

[amber frigate]

Doom neverfinishing

[maiden dirge]

Doom unending

[jolly geyser]

doom doom

[amber frigate]

Doom ending’nt

[maiden dirge]

Lmaoo

Doom finishn't

[amber frigate]

So doom cyberpunk 2077

[jolly geyser]

LOL

[amber frigate]

Weak

[jolly geyser]

does your headphone sounds reach the whole street

[amber frigate]

It reaches the iss

[jolly geyser]

wow

[halcyon bear]

Those are rookie numbers you need to pump those numbers up

[coral lotus]

[sand tinsel]

My ps4 doenst even show how many hours i have

[jolly geyser]

True. Although those were enough for my 4 NM runs heh. And now, I'm doing another NM run without ammo upgrades and it's so damn fun

[wispy verge]

only for secrets and in the mastermind fight

I could probably just jump over the second laser spin attack but I find crouching easier

[sand tinsel]

I think ive never intentionally crouched in combat lol

[flint sky]

You can crouch?

[wispy verge]

why can you walk

like really, why

[sand tinsel]

Yeah found that out recently too

[elder meadow]

BFG Division is a solid and iconic ost from 2016

[sand tinsel]

Yeah

[maiden dirge]

Fax

[royal chasm]

it's some of the best game music ever. I don't know enough about metal to say best metal ever but it's definitely some of the best metal ever

[nocturne escarp]

What was this server like before eternal came out

[wispy verge]

very poggers

[sand tinsel]

Iv heard that this was an unofficial server turned into an official server but idk for sure so take it with a huge grain of salt also dont know when it happend

[flint dune]

As far as I know this became an official server about 2 years prior to Eternal’s release.

[halcyon bear]

I'm happy I fully converted you to the ways of nightmare. My job is done ...

[jolly geyser]

[wraith remnant]

Is there anyone willing to play a private match of 2016

[chrome basin]

i need multiplayer achievements for pc, and a number of other ppl keep mentioning the same (or simply wanting to play mp). i can't play atm now though. we should all schedule a time, like on fridays or the weekend or something

[jolly geyser]

Id do that but there's a stupid bug not allowing me to play MP

[jolly geyser]

Well I never do it in fights, just secrets

[nocturne escarp]

I'm having a super hard time beating phase 2 cyber demon

[jolly geyser]

Still don't know how to beat it?

It's pretty simple. Just keep jumping and spam SSG + Gauss Cannon

Hell, you can even end that fight with SSG only

But quickswitching is more effective

[nocturne escarp]

Ok

[austere tartan]

Multiplayer in this game is very good. No one is camping in the corner cuz everyone is walking in high speed

[elder meadow]

What's your opinion on the ost Rip and Tear

[jolly geyser]

It's decent

Just like BFG Division, both are decent but not amazing IMO

[mint monolith]

Harbinger best

[wispy verge]

koma's mixes best

[jolly geyser]

Fuck yeah

But tbf it's tied to me with At Doom's Gate

[flint dune]

One of the best combat tracks in the game. Along with BFG Division and Harbinger. Imo

[halcyon bear]

Don't be a hipster. Bfg is good

[jolly geyser]

Tbf it's not the same reason multiple people dislike it, aka their reason of "it's overrated so it sucks". I don't like it much because it's a bit tooo noisy. However it's still a very great track

Just not one of my favorites, but it's def good and innovative

[maiden dirge]

Whats the best rune set?

[wispy verge]

||the one that best suits your playstyle(Im sure you havent heard this a million times yet)||

[maiden dirge]

rEAlLy?!?

[wispy verge]

YeAh BRo

I DiDnT BeliEve It eitHer

[maiden dirge]

tHatS SOmE gOoD aDviCe

[wispy verge]

iNdeEd

[royal chasm]

sacrilege

[sour owl]

Fuck yeah love harbinger

[maiden dirge]

Haha

[prisma smelt]

that didn't work

[noble moat]

It is tho

[sour zealot]

doom 2016 is cool

[jagged cypress]

I played Doom Vrf for 15 minutes and loved it, it was my first experience with virtual reality

[jolly geyser]

Nice bro

[wispy verge]

I can just replay missions in an already complete save to get these achievements, right?
https://i.imgur.com/1prnBVe.png

[jolly geyser]

Yes

[wispy verge]

good

[royal chasm]

Yes with a caveat: You can't do this in UN or Extra Life mode. Normal campaign you can just replay till you finish

Wait. This is 16 not eternal. I think that still applies to UN though lmao so not completely wrong

[jolly geyser]

Bruh

Extra Life mode

[wispy verge]

wouldnt do a UN run anyway 🗿

[royal chasm]

I didn't realize which channel i clicked lol

[jolly geyser]

I mean Extra Lives are in Arcade mode in DOOM 2016

[wispy verge]

I just find arcade mode annoying with all those pop-ups and shit lol

[jolly geyser]

It's delicious

[smoky inlet]

A missed opportunity to not have it in Eternal

[elder meadow]

Eternal is an arcade mode.

[jolly geyser]

I always main [ Ammo Boost - Vacuum - In-Flight Mobility ] in my NM playthroughs

[halcyon bear]

It really is

[maiden dirge]

Did you know aimbot exists within this games code?

Just equip seek and destroy 2, grab a beserk powerup and go to fuckin town

[inland shoal]

Anyone on PS4 wanna play some 2016 multiplayer?

[elder meadow]

Any reward for beating 2016 on UN?

[halcyon bear]

Pride and God tier respect

[elder meadow]

lol nothing wrong with that.

[jolly geyser]

The ability to brag about it

[elder meadow]

Lol that's too bad

[halcyon bear]

You don't have to brag just do it and record it. Let them bask in your glory

No bragging needed

[jolly geyser]

Yea I was kidding lmao

[high turret]

I just started playing Doom 2016 for the first time today. 🙂

[jolly geyser]

Welcome to the world of DOOM 2016, marine

[high turret]

I really like. It handles a lot like Bioshock IMHO. So far my favorite parts are being able to punch demons to death and the music lol

[jolly geyser]

Interesting. I never played Bioshock myself

Glorious to hear that you liked DOOM 2016, though

[high turret]

I played bioshock a couple years ago. It was really fun.

Also, why is Doom Guy kind of a dick? I love it, but he didn't seem so mean in the earlier games.

[jolly geyser]

Not really, he's just mad at the UAC for fucking up Mars again

[high turret]

I get that.

[jolly geyser]

Because this isn't the first time an invasion happens

And everytime an invasion happens, it's because of the dumb UAC members and officials

[high turret]

That what I thought. People were telling me this is a remake, and I kept thinking, then why was he in some weird coffin?

[jolly geyser]

Lorewise it isn't a remake

But gameplay wise, it is.

Lorewise it's just a sequel of DOOM 64

[high turret]

so was Doom 3 a stand alone, or nah?

[jolly geyser]

DOOM 3 ain't canon

I wish if it was, though

So basically the timeline is:
DOOM 1 > DOOM 2 > DOOM 64 > DOOM 2016 > DOOM Eternal

[high turret]

It feels like the imps in 2016 are modeled after the teleportation demons in 3.

[jolly geyser]

2016 was heavily inspired by DOOM 3

It feels like a spiritual successor to DOOM 3 more than anything

[high turret]

That makes sense.

[jolly geyser]

Even the UAC design

[high turret]

I don't remember seeing anything about the UAC before 3, but I could be wrong. IT was hard to pay attention to anything but not dying in the early games.

[jolly geyser]

There was UAC in every DOOM game

But DOOM 3's UAC is the most notable in all of 2016's prequels

[high turret]

Damn. I know I missed a lot... of secrets haha

[jolly geyser]

Heh. Secrets in the Classic games didn't have any story information tbh

They were just equipment and stuff

[high turret]

Until now I was playing through the Xbox game pass and 2016 is the only one that isn't on there, so now I have to play on steam.

[jolly geyser]

Damn

2016 also has some of DOOM 3's horror elements, including a jumpscare but that was funny honestly.

[high turret]

That being said my experience may have been different if it were on steam. (probably not)

[jolly geyser]

I play it on Steam

Bought 2016, DOOM 3 and RoE during summer sale and never regretted it

Finished four nightmare campaigns since back then

[high turret]

whats RoE?

[jolly geyser]

Resurrection of Evil, a DOOM 3 DLC

[high turret]

I just finished all of those

[jolly geyser]

Yeah me too

I also finished Lost Mission

Lost Mission was amazing

[high turret]

I've been playing them in order of release. After 2016 I move to Eternal

https://tenor.com/view/worriedface-gif-4425173

[jolly geyser]

Couldn't play Eternal because of my specs lol

I refunded it because of the driver issue

[high turret]

oh no. Now I'm worried

[jolly geyser]

Nah I'm pretty sure you don't have an old PC like mine