#doom-2016

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neat solar
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Classic revenant is good, just classic

hollow temple
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Like its just a bigger zombie

jolly geyser
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I mean, weakpoints are a good thing for balanced difficulty I suppose. In Doom 2016 you just had to spam guns. In Eternal you can fuck enemies up by just shooting their weakpoints

jolly geyser
hollow temple
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Well the pinky in doom 2016 has a weakpoint

sweet mesa
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yeah I thought that 2016 got a bit repetitive after awhile

jolly geyser
sweet mesa
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while eternal has variety to combat

hollow temple
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They just dont tell you. Or atleast i didnt see a tutorial

jolly geyser
stuck brook
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Pinky has the same weak point though in both games

sweet mesa
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pinky is annoying ngl

silk acorn
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The tail

neat solar
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Classic pinky is good

stuck brook
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I watched a pinky kill itself after hitting a wall and falling back down

sweet mesa
hollow temple
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You see doom 2016 is really cool but if you are to rank missions on their looks. I am afraid to say but you cant really

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They all have the same general look.

neat solar
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Depends, classic enemies are just good

hollow temple
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But to be honest it helos build that eerie atmosphere

neat solar
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Woops forgot to use reply

halcyon bear
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Pinky does what a pinky is supposed to. It's demon food that runs around and tries to make you move wrong

hollow temple
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Helps*

sweet mesa
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classic doom is still fun and that's how you know it's good

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if it holds up years later

jolly geyser
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Pinky you just need to be like those Spanish guys.

Bull fight in other words

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Wait for it to charge onto you then go Spanish style

sweet mesa
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2016 got quite repetitive imo

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fun

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but repetitive

hollow temple
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I mean the classic doom games are repetitive but for its time you cant blame it

neat solar
stuck brook
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So what happened to Samuel he got fucked up in eternal but in 2016 he’s a whole robot

jolly geyser
halcyon bear
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I'm thousands of hours in doom 2016 and still love it. Fresh for me every time

stuck brook
sweet mesa
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Aight ima go before eternal spoilers

hollow temple
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Yeah he did this thing where he went hulk mode

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But instead he got teared to bits

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He tried to do a doomguy but failed

jolly geyser
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Yeah and he had the crucible in his possession but guess that it didn't fucking help him

neat solar
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Proof that Doomguy is a legend

hollow temple
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And then doomguy comes along and the demons shit their pants

jolly geyser
hollow temple
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Like he just comes in the middle of the invasion and the demons are like "uh oh someting is really not right"

stuck brook
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Also did the demons take over the UAC as in 2016 is owned by Samuel but in eternal it’s looked as terrible I don’t know to much lore

neat solar
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All of that because of a rabbit

hollow temple
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Well samuel ended up only owning arc pretty sure

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Uac satanists took over

stuck brook
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Oh

hollow temple
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As far as i know

silk acorn
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I'm compelled to believe it's more than just daisy

stuck brook
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I know he owns arc

neat solar
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Yeah, true

hollow temple
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He had a family

neat solar
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More than a rabbit

hollow temple
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They destroyed his city

stuck brook
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I gotta read up on lore

hollow temple
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They destroyed his people

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They destroyed his sanity

neat solar
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True, but he also had some sick music playing while killing them

hollow temple
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I like how just one man with some badass music can destroy hell

stuck brook
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Multiple times

halcyon bear
neat solar
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If DoomGuy were listening to the music, which he probably is, he could kill quite a lot

stuck brook
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I gotta play anicent gods

hollow temple
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Ok if you gave doom guy infinite ammo all the guns he needs sentinel armor litteraly every upgrade and weapon mastery he would kill every demons in hell maybe even actually destroy it

neat solar
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And two wrist blades doomguy_grin

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That would be badass

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Double the ripping and tearing

stuck brook
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He wouldn’t need the chainsaw but I say also give him a chainsaw

neat solar
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A double chainsaw, like doom 64

sweet mesa
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give DoomGuy a super shotgun, 9 slugs and some slayer playing and he will somehow find a way to destroy hell

hollow temple
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Actually no. Dont give him anything just him ass naked and fists. That when the real fight begins. And its gonno be a scary one

neat solar
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Give him a shotgun and some armor

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That's all he needs

hollow temple
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No he doesnt need it

neat solar
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True

hollow temple
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He smashed a demons head in dook 2016

sweet mesa
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nothing but some headphones and metal playing

neat solar
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Just armor then

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And badass music

hollow temple
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Ok doomguy only uses the guns to have fun

neat solar
hollow temple
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Its like when you are playing a ragdoll game

stuck brook
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Yeah

hollow temple
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You can kill your stickman with nothing

sweet mesa
hollow temple
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But once you get some weapons it starts to get fun

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In fact doom guy will most likely get bored of killing demons non stop

rigid bridge
sweet mesa
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someone said that master chief would win against doomguy but we all know that that's bullshit

rigid bridge
stuck brook
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Isn’t Doom guy fused with a god dunno if that’s true

rigid bridge
stuck brook
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Ok

sweet mesa
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idk much about doom lore tbh

rigid bridge
sweet mesa
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spam

stuck brook
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Wouldn’t be surprised if he was tbh

rigid bridge
neat solar
rigid bridge
sweet mesa
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you cannot kill doomguy

rigid bridge
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Goddamn I’m gonna overdose

halcyon bear
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Master chief probably couldn't even kill an imp lolll

rigid bridge
neat solar
rigid bridge
neat solar
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Blue bottle

hollow temple
rigid bridge
stuck brook
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Alright

neat solar
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"Hey satan we killed that rabbit hopping around." -demons

jolly geyser
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Epic Gamer's got addiction to health potions

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That's a good sign

rigid bridge
hollow temple
rigid bridge
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That’s ten in the past hour or so

halcyon bear
neat solar
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DoomGuy- "You what?"

rigid bridge
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And I didn’t just grab every message mentioning eternal I tried to grab the different ideas about it

stuck brook
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What about a rabbit?

hollow temple
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11 shots

rigid bridge
sweet mesa
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would doom guy be able to kill a puppy tho

hollow temple
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Yes

sweet mesa
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i don't think he'd be able to

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he'd find it too cute

hollow temple
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Listen the demons broke him so much to the point where he just doesnt care he just wants to kill them

sweet mesa
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yeah but a puppy isn't a demon

neat solar
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Yeah

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Puppy cute, demon ugly

jolly geyser
halcyon bear
rigid bridge
rigid bridge
sweet mesa
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I joke

hollow temple
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What i find funny is that the humans struggle to kill demons and doom guy is here just casually taking a walk through hell and demons shit their pants even when they hear his name motherfucker has his own boss music

rigid bridge
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Got me

halcyon bear
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It only happens here too. If you tried to talk about 64 in classic you would be burnt alive

hollow temple
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Ok doomguy is the definition of badass

neat solar
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Yes

jolly geyser
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Well they talked about Eternal so I added my opinions

hollow temple
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Like he completely destroyed a dimension spoilers ||urdak||

rigid bridge
neat solar
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Can we just respect the fact that Doomguy literally killed thousands of demons as a human marine with guns

hollow temple
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Like doomguy might be like the most feared person to ever set foot in hell

jolly geyser
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He deserves his titles and power

hollow temple
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In the next doom game i would love a cutscene of doom guy walking through hell and you can see all the demons running in fear or getting down on their knees or praying etc. Like land just falling around him

halcyon bear
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He wasn't just a human marine. He's got the blood of bj in his veins

hollow temple
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Like the dimension itself fears him

neat solar
jolly geyser
hollow temple
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Or like you can hear a demonic voice warn the demons that he is here

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Whole of hell crumbling down because of him

neat solar
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DoomGuy doesn't really have a true name does he?

jolly geyser
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In Doom 2016

rigid bridge
rigid bridge
halcyon bear
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It was changed to blaze

rigid bridge
hollow temple
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I mean if there is a cutscene like that @jolly geyser

rigid bridge
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Unless he changed it back doomguy_grin

hollow temple
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From*

neat solar
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What about the password on the computer in the slayers room, which is Flynn Taggert

halcyon bear
rigid bridge
halcyon bear
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Hes his ancestor

rigid bridge
neat solar
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Ah, the comics

rigid bridge
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Speaking of which are they any good should I read them

jolly geyser
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Imagine a randomized mechanic that makes demons frown and flee from combat if you fuck up their brothers in an arena fight

rigid bridge
jolly geyser
neat solar
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Oh, there's novels?

hollow temple
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So it seems its passed down generations

jolly geyser
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The novel was funny and badass

rigid bridge
hollow temple
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Nazies feared his ancestors and demons fear him

jolly geyser
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Doomguy is stuck in his eternal suffering, and for that he must makes the demons suffer with him, until it is done

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Chillguy

neat solar
hollow temple
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I mean i have a feeling that once hell is fully gone that doom guys rage will all go all his grief etc to the point where he is finally gonno feel calm and its gonno have such a big impact to the point where he is overwhelmed by this and just dies

neat solar
jolly geyser
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Doomguy chilling in his own handmade heaven

hollow temple
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Honestly i really thinl that the next doom game will be about doom guy destroying hell

neat solar
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Yeah

jolly geyser
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I just bought Doom 2016 on Steam and cant wait to download it after Doom 3.

hollow temple
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Have you played doom eternal

jolly geyser
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Nope, never

neat solar
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I have only played the classics

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But have watched eternal walkthroughs

hollow temple
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Well dissapointment from what i have seen. Doom 3 and doom 2016. Are very distantly to connected to the point where its just a different dimension

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So it wont make sense to you

jolly geyser
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I played Doom 1, 2, 64, 3, 2016, and RPG. But I lost the copies of both 2016 and 3 and only played them temporarily

hollow temple
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It will make sense if you played doom 1 2 and 64

neat solar
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I understand the seperate dimensions thing

jolly geyser
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And just bought both of them now on Steam

hollow temple
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For it to make fully sense is you need to also play eternal

jolly geyser
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Including Doom 3s Rose DLC

hollow temple
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Eternal explains doom 2016

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But doom 3 is well related but not

jolly geyser
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Hugo said that Doom 3 is canon but it belongs to another Earth dimension from what I remember?

hollow temple
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Yes

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So its not related to doom 1 2 64 2016 and eternal. But its canon

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What i mean by related i mean by the fact its related to the story of these games

jolly geyser
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Also I heard that Doom 2016s MP is kinda inactive

silk acorn
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Depends on your region

jolly geyser
silk acorn
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I've got a few matches before

jolly geyser
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Doom 3s dimension is luckier because the portals to hell were opened way after the timeline of Doom 1 and 2

jolly geyser
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I care mostly for the campaign tbh

silk acorn
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But do beware, it's mostly full of experienced players

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So expect to get wrecked your first few times

jolly geyser
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I just hope that there is anti-cheat

silk acorn
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Of course there is ^^

azure pawn
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You don't have to spam HealthBonus every time

rigid bridge
azure pawn
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but you do have a choice

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I know that was a reference but still

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you can just ignore the conversation

rigid bridge
azure pawn
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That being said, I agree with what Ztub, Draculina, and Zehrid were talking about

azure pawn
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how does that quote fit into what I said there?

rigid bridge
neat solar
neat solar
silk acorn
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Samuel Hayden was better in 2016, change my mind

neat solar
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Yes

rigid bridge
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Never mind don’t answer that question kappa

silk acorn
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Yup

azure pawn
queen ridge
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Though he did tell me not to destroy argent energy

silk acorn
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He was a lot more serious in 2016

halcyon bear
silk acorn
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Ikr

neat solar
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Yeah

silk acorn
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He felt like an actual character then an exposition bot

jolly geyser
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I can't kill you, but I won't have you standing in our way

neat solar
silk acorn
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But daily reminder that doom 2016 is still great and shouldn't be compared to Eternal unless it's a fair comparison

jolly geyser
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Yeah comparisons like
"Doom 2016 is greater hurr durr" or vice versa is just boring and we've seen too much of that already

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In almost every channel

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If it's a Doom game, then it is a good game. (with kinda an exception of Doom 64 because I didn't really like it much - but that's just me)

neat solar
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How do you do the crossed out message

jolly geyser
neat solar
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Thanks

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I needed that

jolly geyser
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Np

queen ridge
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why the spider mastermind 3x bigger than in classic doom

ember orchid
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the og doom games are better than the new ones and cant change my mind

sullen wagon
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nobody wants to change your mind no one cares

halcyon bear
exotic garnet
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I noticed something else i prefer 2016 over to eternal. No green eyes. Like for the crucible fight you watched for body movements a lot

halcyon bear
exotic garnet
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now I really wanna replay 2016 NM instead of practising eternal ( I still cant do Eternal NM)

abstract isle
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Fair point, boss mechanics are different and have less obvious telegraphing

azure pawn
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Yeah

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Plus

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No big tutorial popup, you gotta figure out the boss yourself

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And you can figure out the hell guards quite easily

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“When attack shield goes down”

lyric ridge
muted hornet
versed cipher
# silk acorn But daily reminder that doom 2016 is still great and shouldn't be compared to Et...

I personally feel like 2016 can be compared to Eternal to a certain point since they both obviously still have their similarities. 2016 has the same gameplay loop as Eternal, go into arena, kill demons, pick-up powerups, propel yourself up with one of the jump boosters, etc. But 2016 is far more simplistic and slower than Eternal, and Eternal does more to the gameplay loop by changing the pacing of it completely from “regular demon shooter you can shut your brain off to” to making you think about your every move and every action in the game, thus making Eternal almost completely different from 2016.

Which is why I don’t get why people love to compare them so much like it’s a war. Both games serve their purpose and do a great job on doing so.

halcyon bear
# versed cipher I personally feel like 2016 can be compared to Eternal to a certain point since ...

They usually do it because eternals marketing was fantastic and I'd say a huge if not insanely huge number of eternal players are new to the franchise and their first experience with doom was eternal. After loving the game they decided to play the other game after and so the second experience is 2016... believing 2016 would be near the same as eternal they can't help but compare the large differences in the games instead of enjoying them for what they are.

silk acorn
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I'm just glad i started with doom 2016

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Sure, i didn't start with the classics, but that doesn't really matter too much

halcyon bear
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Even though I started with the classics and for me I switch between modern and classic easily because of some of the similarities in enemy acquisition and it being a fast paced shooter they all play differently and I'm able to unplug and play each for their own qualities

silk acorn
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I don't care how much better eternal is to doom 2016, doom 2016 will always be in my heart (It sounds cringe, but it's true)

rigid bridge
exotic garnet
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Holy shit I'd forgotten 2016's hardest encounter

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The very first gore nest

silk acorn
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Imps intensify

exotic garnet
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Yeah single heavy demons are easy. Massed fodder demons are hard and really test your multitasking

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Until you get stickies heh

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And the sticky mastery

fiery yoke
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Mfe people call the explosive shot 'stickies' after Eternal despite the fact it's a single impact grenade

silk acorn
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The mastery in 2016 turns it into a cluster bomb

fiery yoke
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God I love it, I can't stress how useful that extra damage is
(Nice pfp btw)

silk acorn
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Thank you ^^

chrome basin
# versed cipher I personally feel like 2016 can be compared to Eternal to a certain point since ...

not really. if you're shutting your brain off in 2016, you're playing on a difficulty that isn't challenging you. one could argue eternal is the one that requires less thought, considering how easy the devs make it to recover from mistakes by refilling up the bulk of your health/armor/ammo whenever you want, and giving you an easy tool to maneuver around to do so. in 2016, you have to work hard to prevent making those mistakes in the first place, because if you lose a significant amount of your health and especially armor, you're likely not going to be getting it back in that particular fight. and despite all the ammo you have, when below the armor threshold for infinite ammo, it's easy to lose track of how much you're using in the final arenas, where you might've blown all your gas 1-shotting tougher demons, and then you're hosed in that department as well

fiery yoke
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^

chrome basin
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there's a ton of stuff that can be cheesed in 2016 though, like infinite ammo, easy bfg ammo drops, or glitching the gauss (for those that exploit unintended glitches), but 2016's combat is still complex and thoughtful at proper difficulty

silk acorn
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This is true

fiery yoke
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Unupgraded siege mode gang

chrome basin
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i think the reason why i prefer classic doom and 2016 is the same reason why i like earlier resident evil games. 2016 excels at pacing, resource management, and where area control is the key during combat. it's more contemplative (like RE before it became a shooter). eternal is a lot more telegraphed and forceful in how it wants you to play, more streamlined for people who need explicit guidance (explicit weak points, extra visual incentives like landing sticky bomb shots, etc., even how simple refilling resources is where it can easily be done anytime during combat). the game is designed to make players feel more rewarded for their actions, but one could argue in superficially-manipulated ways. either way, it accomplishes its goal of putting players in that particular fast movement / reward-based adrenaline flow state better than 2016, but the end result is that many of the encounters feel repetitive, especially since every arena is large and round to facilitate movement and infinite fodder, and always feature monkey bars and boosters to keep the player mobile. but imo the more the game is streamlined, the more locked in i feel to the intended flow state, and the less agency i feel i have, especially when part of what the game counts on is the player getting beat on often, and constantly being able to recover from those mistakes

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idk, i'm writing too much, sorry, lol. but for me, personally, i prefer better pacing and more contemplative gameplay, but i get why many prefer the faster, more twitch-based, but imo more locked-in gameplay of eternal.

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(now everyone can take their massive morning shots) HealthBonus

abstract isle
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I'm shotting that but that was a good deep dive, cheers HealthBonus

halcyon bear
fiery yoke
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Fucking finally someone made a comprehensive reasoning why they prefer 2016 over eternal

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That isn't just 'atmosphere good'

silk acorn
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Someone else who thinks eternal is more linear and forced, my man

fiery yoke
silk acorn
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I wanted to say that I believed that, but I was afraid that I would be hit with backlash or something

fiery yoke
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Honestly all opinions are welcome in this channel for some reason

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also arcade mode is hella underrated

chrome basin
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i didn't like arcade mode at first, since i'm not usually one to enjoy grinding points, and i prefer immersive gameplay-based incentives to shape gameplay (rather than arbitrary scoring decisions), but i have to admit arcade forced me to use weapon combinations and tactics i wouldn't otherwise have during the real game

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like i finally used the scoped assault rifle with devastator rounds to score headshots much more often, and tried finishing bigger stuff with remote det rockets to score both direct hits and headshots for more medals, and then there's not just spamming the bfg on the later levels in order to score more points (UN vega central processing was really fun/challenging trying to maximize score/medals while stunning/headshotting everything)

full pelican
cobalt hazel
chrome basin
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yeah, you have to be much more aggressive to keep medal chains going

fiery yoke
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I like the fact it relieves the burden of having to find secrets during missions, plus the fully upgraded kit basically gives a new game+

cobalt hazel
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^

chrome basin
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yep. i always upgrade ammo before health and armor in the main game, but arcade forces the argent cell upgrades in a more balanced order, so i had to be much more conscious of my ammo earlier on in arcade than i normally was, too

fiery yoke
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The game tells you to go full doomslayer on them and I just love it.

Oh and seeing the ratings pop up as you're decimating everything is satisfying asf

cobalt hazel
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I'll always love hearing the medals stack up oh and the headshot sound is also satisfying

fiery yoke
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(protip: use the stun mod on groups of demons and toss a frag or blow up a barrel. Ez points)

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Damn you vega

cobalt hazel
fiery yoke
chrome basin
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one complaint is that it didn't seem like the secondary stun caused from killing a stunned demon, counted as a stun medal for the secondary stunned target

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that threw me off a bit

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plus the relic bonuses from exploding the mines kept clipping through walls and floors for me, but then i realized that was only happening because my fps was uncapped at 200ish. i saw someone mention that capping it fixed that problem, so i capped to 180 fps and then they worked fine

fiery yoke
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I used to believe it didn't give points either, turns out it's just a very small kill window

chrome basin
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ah, i'll have to try it again then

fiery yoke
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I got Slayer on all missions UV, it's the little tricks you learn that matter

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Like how the demons spawn in the helix arena allowing you to group them up and kill them effortlessly

chrome basin
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yeah you're right about the stun, gotta be really quick to kill em on the secondary one

fiery yoke
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;)

rigid bridge
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HealthBonus cheers

neat solar
halcyon bear
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It ain't doo in this game either

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Trust me

jolly geyser
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what do you mean by doo doo

azure pawn
halcyon bear
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I love all doom games because I have the ability to not compare everything. It's a rare thing these days

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I just unplug and enjoy the game I'm playing for the award winning Master peice it is

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Exactly

azure pawn
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Yeah a lot of people have been shitting on 2016 because so many people are comparing the two

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On YouTube

jolly geyser
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And people comparing Doom 3 with every single Doom game

flint dune
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This is just like when a ton of new Doom players that were introduced with 2016, started shitting on Doom 3 without even playing it.

jolly geyser
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I wonder if anybody has actually used the Tactical Scope mod for HAR, kinda felt like it's useless

azure pawn
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“Hey you guys, before we continue with this video I just want to say I really loved 2016, Eternal’s just way better in every way”

jolly geyser
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Micro-missiles all the way

flint dune
fiery yoke
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I only use the scope on the tower bridge

azure pawn
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But wasn’t due to technical limits

halcyon bear
sullen wagon
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I use the scope for lost souls sometimes

elder meadow
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i just finished doom 2016 today

versed cipher
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But I still think Eternal is the better game anyway imo.

silk acorn
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It's mainly just a case of, do you prefer more open, comtemplative gameplay, or linear, guided gameplay?

fiery yoke
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Quite frankly I like both, although 2016's more open gameplay lends itself to making your own power fantasy rather than following Eternal's forced power fantasy

sullen wagon
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i think its less of a case of 2016 being linear or guided, you still have tons of options, 2016 is just more laid back

fiery yoke
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Eternal: 5 star restaurant and everyone wants something different
Doom 2016: all you can eat buffet

halcyon bear
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If the same argument keeps happening its going rip a hole into time and space.

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2016 chat is the groundhogs day of doom server

silk acorn
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Indeed

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But i'm glad it's been getting more attention anyway

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When 2016 comes up in eternal chat, it's just like, "Hey, eternal is so much better, play 2016 first though, you'll hate it after eternal"

jolly geyser
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Would be nice to see people just talking about Doom 2016 and its awesomeness, and content and not compare it with other games all the time

halcyon bear
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I was just thinking about the cybermancubus and it's construction and all those specimens being worked on. I just love the UAC lore of 2016. That's just one random thing on the top of you head. Revenant program just another

jolly geyser
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Weaponizing demons for a better tomorrow

jolly geyser
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sup fellow Doom enthusiast

elder meadow
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Is 2016 any good

jolly geyser
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Definitely

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It's one of the best games I've ever played in my life

elder meadow
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I was asking because I am gonna start playing it soon

jolly geyser
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Fast-paced and has an interesting storyline despite not being important that much. And it's adrenaline rushing 99% of time

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One word to describe the game:
Badass

jolly geyser
elder meadow
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Yeah

jolly geyser
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Nice

silk acorn
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Ignore the 2016 haters

jolly geyser
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Yeah, cause you'll encounter many of those lol

scarlet jewel
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I have never found one

jolly geyser
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I have, but I would rather not talk about that because it'll start another comparison argument I'm pretty sure

flint dune
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Most people who hate on 2016 played Eternal beforehand, and have this bizarre expectation that it should play similar to its predecessor. No idea why people can’t just enjoy the game for what it is instead of drawing comparisons.

azure pawn
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I lose like 5 braincells every time I see one of them

silk acorn
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Most of the time, it's just about the dash and meathook

jolly geyser
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I'm losing braincells already remembering that

hollow temple
jolly geyser
hollow temple
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Now that i am playing eternal more often its a tie

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But if i started going on a doom 2016 spree again i would like it more

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Vfr?

steel moon
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There might be something to be said but perhaps eternals combat is too intense for some at times?

Especially once you have to juggle everything rapid fire.?

jolly geyser
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Never played it myself so I can't really judge

hollow temple
#

Oh

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I played doom 3 but it just wasnt for me

jolly geyser
#

I see

hollow temple
#

Its not very rip and tear

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It gives a good atmosphere for its times

#

I mean we are talking about doom games

#

You started talking abt vr doom

azure pawn
#

And we’re in the 2016 chat

jolly geyser
hollow temple
#

I have seen a common trend upon thos channel where i see people comparing doom games

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So i decided to compare the looks of doom 3 to doom 2016

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And for its time doom 3 did a good hob

scarlet jewel
#

I played 2016 DOOM first

hollow temple
#

Job*

azure pawn
scarlet jewel
#

I played Doom 3 but I found it boring

hollow temple
#

First doom game i played is. Doom 1

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I foujd out abt the doom games at like the beggining of this year or last year

jolly geyser
#

My first Doom game was Doom 3

hollow temple
#

And i thought it would make sense if i played doom 1

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But nothing made sense i just killed demons and got stuck on levels for 15 minutes so it was fun

scarlet jewel
#

Nah

hollow temple
#

I havent unlocked the classic levels yet

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I want to though

jolly geyser
#

Most of them had almost no enemies, so I can agree with you on that

chrome basin
#

yeah, 2016's classic levels simply weren't made/balanced for 2016's mechanics

azure pawn
#

You can 2 shot them with the charged shot

chrome basin
#

they actually did a better job of replicating them in snapmap

jolly geyser
flint dune
#

Indeed

scarlet jewel
#

Does anyone else miss Snapmap?

hollow temple
#

So it was bassiacly like the meme format "when you do a lvl 1 quest when you are lvl 99"

azure pawn
flint dune
#

Yes, and what sucks is that 2016’s Snapmap is pretty dead now.

hollow temple
#

Snapmap is cool and would be cool for eternal

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Though idk why they dont wanna add it

azure pawn
#

No I mean like

chrome basin
#

well, facing pinkies in the narrow halls of the damned is quite obnoxious

azure pawn
#

People recreating them in snapmap out of the snapmap rooms and stuff

scarlet jewel
chrome basin
#

officially they remade e1m1-e1m3 i think

flint dune
scarlet jewel
chrome basin
#

lol, it was so unmemorable i had to strain to remember they actually included tower of babel

halcyon bear
#

Thats because it's a different species

hollow temple
#

I mean battlemode is cool and all

#

Though 2016 multiplayer would of been cooler

flint dune
#

I used it a lot revenantshrug

halcyon bear
#

No it won't fight like a tyrant

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Because it's different

hollow temple
#

What is invasion

flint dune
#

Was fun to mess around with. And a lot of people made some pretty good maps.

halcyon bear
#

Like comparing a pinky to a imp

chrome basin
#

i've been getting into snapmap the past few days. the logic options seems alright, but they really should've allowed players full control over geometry

flint dune
hollow temple
#

I mean when i go to snapmap today i still see levels being made and played and some of the levels have like thousands of plays and so on

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Also snapmap is a good way to practice

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Like just making a empty room where you can spawn in demons

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I am pretty sure there are a few maps with like a milliom or 2 plays

flint dune
#

There’s a lot of maps with millions of plays on them, but maps being made now don’t get a lot of traction.

hollow temple
#

I cant remember

flint dune
#

Yeah, a ridiculously long amount of time.

halcyon bear
#

Ah I'm saying it isnt really the cyberdemon so it wouldn't function the same. But you're talking about snapmap?

chrome basin
#

it takes forever to load on my brand new nvme ssd

hollow temple
#

I mean on xbox it dont take tooo long

halcyon bear
#

Ah

scarlet jewel
flint dune
#

Wouldn’t be surprised if someone were able to implement the Cyberdemon into Snapmap. Someone got the Summoner in there, and a lot of campaign assets.

halcyon bear
hollow temple
#

Like if doom eternal could just have a thing where you have a room and decide what theme it has but you can choose difficulty enemies etc

halcyon bear
#

Instead of baron boss fights

hollow temple
#

So you can experiment and practice

flint dune
scarlet jewel
#

Whatever happened to the Summoner in Eternal? Did they replace it for the Archville?

flint dune
#

Yep.

scarlet jewel
#

Damn

#

I really liked the Summoner

flint dune
#

Summoners all died in 2016 apparently and their spirits come back in The Ancient Gods expansion for revenge. Didn’t make this up it’s in the codex entires, heh.

halcyon bear
#

Snapmap had a ton of potential. A future with prodeus type map creation would have been fantastic

hollow temple
azure pawn
#

HAHA

hollow temple
#

Posseses*

flint dune
#

Yeah it’s a bit dumb lol

azure pawn
#

Didn’t they do that with spectres too?

halcyon bear
#

So much for imps evolving into summoners

flint dune
#

But who cares it’s DOOM

azure pawn
#

Like aren’t they also ghosts now

hollow temple
#

Yeah ik i did a typo

#

Typos are a thing but toi late now

#

Too*

azure pawn
#

Even though the spectres were established to be a failed UAC experiment

halcyon bear
hollow temple
#

My keyboard is small

#

My phone is pretty small

#

Its a samsung s7

halcyon bear
#

I've got a Samsung too. Not ideal

hollow temple
#

I have been using it for now 4 years

#

And i have gone through 2 screens already

#

And the back is cracked

#

My battery is probably on the edge of explosion

#

You see samsung is cool. I just need a bigger phone

#

But not too big

#

Just the right size

halcyon bear
#

Invest in the future. Invest in a PDA

hollow temple
#

Though i dont want a iphone either

halcyon bear
#

Anyways. Make a snap map with just summoner and barons and a baalgar at the end. Man that would have actually been intense haha

tiny sail
#

I just bought Doom 2016 for 37 TL (4-3$) and i dont even have a pc

halcyon bear
tiny sail
#

i dont know man in turkey we hot some stores like you pay for internet and pc per hour and i dont think they have doom already downloaded and it must take so long to download one

#

i hope someone got one

halcyon bear
#

Ahh. This actually makes sense. Pc cafes ?

tiny sail
#

yeah

halcyon bear
#

You bought a hard copy of it ?

tiny sail
#

i bought an official one in steam

#

you know the steam is on sale rn

#

and i think 70 percent is a huge amount of sale

halcyon bear
#

Well that's very cheap I think it was worth the buy for sure

tiny sail
#

yeah i will buy eternal too 6-7 dollar if you translate to dollar

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from turkish lira its 67 tl

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im shamed from borning here

#

well its 00:39 for me i will try to find and cafe that has doom already in download tommorow

halcyon bear
#

I'm sure you will. It's a very popular and award winning game

tiny sail
#

yeah i know but a lot of my friends are just some online gamers like spend 10 hour to valorant and they just pay money for gwtting skins for valorant

#

they dont even have an idea what is doom

halcyon bear
tiny sail
#

turk teenagers are just online gamers skin buying dumbasses

halcyon bear
#

That is why no one will remember their names

tiny sail
#

i love mick gordon mick_gordon

azure pawn
#

We all do

neat solar
native star
#

Yo guys just beat argent tower

halcyon bear
azure pawn
#

what's y'all's favorite 2016 level?

#

For me it's probably Necropolis

#

since it plays one of my favorite tracks, references DOOM 2 twice, and has a sick boss fight

jolly geyser
neat solar
#

I am getting doom eternal, any other games I should get?

sturdy dew
#

Is doom 2016 worth buying in 2021

neat solar
#

Idk

#

It's on sale on steam

sturdy dew
#

Well i got the eternal on the sale

#

But not this sale

jolly geyser
#

Yes it is, the game is absolutely phenomenal and rushes your adrenaline

sturdy dew
#

Alright

#

I might buy it

#

I hope its not expensive tho

neat solar
#

6$

sturdy dew
#

I live in turkey and everything is expensive

jolly geyser
#

It's 6 USD like Doomguy said

neat solar
#

Yeah

sturdy dew
#

6 dollars is like 56 dollars in turkey

jolly geyser
sturdy dew
neat solar
#

I don't know Turkey money well sorry

sturdy dew
#

oh fuck then i cant buy it

#

Well shit

#

U guys are lucky

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To not live in turkey

#

Wait no its 29 dollars on steam rn

#

And i have 24

#

Im gonna fucking cry

neat solar
sturdy dew
#

Im serious bro this is my only chance of buying it man

#

Ima cry for real

neat solar
#

That is sad, I feel bad

sturdy dew
#

ur so lucky gamers

#

Untill next time i guess

#

I cant believe something 144 dollars is like 30 dollars in ur country

#

Just wow mane

neat solar
#

Wow, I feel bad

#

I am lucky to be in America

sturdy dew
#

You sure are

#

I hope u enjoy doom eternal

halcyon bear
azure pawn
#

We get it

#

That wasn’t even a comparison

visual narwhal
last ridge
#

I feel that 2016 flows better than Eternal

elder meadow
last ridge
#

I feel like im forced to always play by the rules that Eternal has enforced, otherwise I feel like im being punished

#

Cacodemon are a good example, where ideally you would always want to put a grenade in their mouth and then glory kill them

jolly geyser
#

Cacodemons got a funny weakpoint in Doom 2016, their eyes

last ridge
#

Yup, I always gauss cannon their eye

#

Does shooting their eye cause more damage in Eternal? or no difference?

silk acorn
#

Shooting the eye counts as a headshot?

jolly geyser
#

the cacodemon itself is a flying head

#

so everywhere counts as a headshot

#

shooting the eye would count as an eyeshot though, I think

last ridge
#

But does it cause more damage?

#

in Eternal I mean

rugged dawn
#

(2016)

#

its eazier to understand the flow of it

#

than doom etenrla in my opinion

#

but in my honest opinion

#

if you get the hang of doom eternals flow and know how to move,shoot,and chainsaw things in unison than the flow of doom eternalcan be pretty satisfying

sturdy dew
#

i got the hang of doom eternal pretty fast to be honest

#

i wish i could play doom 2016 tho

last ridge
#

I think it's a case of which game you started out with

#

I just finished doom 2016 a few weeks ago and bought Eternal on sale and having a bit of a hard time adjusting

#

Mainly I dont understand why the game wants you to keep using the chainsaw for ammo, What's wrong with having ammo and health scattered on the maps and in secret places

sturdy dew
#

i see zombies as ammo packs

last ridge
#

And if I kill all enemies without chainsawing anyone, how will I get back my ammo for the next encounter?

fiery yoke
#

Eternal wants you to use the chainsaw for it's intended purpose rather than only using it to kill heavies like in 2016

jolly geyser
fiery yoke
#

(even now with my preferred playstyle I can't help chainsawing a baron occasionally)

halcyon bear
#

Just hanging there

halcyon bear
fiery yoke
halcyon bear
#

Chainsawing a baron is one of the most satisfying things in the game

elder meadow
#

I just bought doom2016 Because it was on sale, even though my laptop cannot run it

last ridge
#

even at the lowest setting?

fringe hill
#

I just beat the boss with the 2 guards

elder meadow
#

Yep

fringe hill
#

shit, I spoiled a part of the game

last ridge
#

it's a super old game and nothing to spoil anyway

elder meadow
#

I bought it just so in the future when i can afford a better pc i will have the game ready

last ridge
#

there is barely any story in 2016 so dont worry

fringe hill
#

Oh

#

Anyway, I beat the boss with the guards

#

Before you get the skull stick thing

last ridge
#

what guards?

elder meadow
#

The twins

#

And the demonic crucible

fringe hill
#

The hell guards

last ridge
#

oh the spinny guys

fringe hill
#

Ye

elder meadow
#

Rolly and Polly

fringe hill
#

Now Im back at mars

#

Wait, whats the point of doom 2016?

last ridge
#

I have to admit, I dont really know boss patterns, I always just spam all BFG ammo at them then supershotgun spam

fringe hill
#

To get out of mars?

fringe hill
last ridge
#

BFG can take out a good chuck of health

elder meadow
#

Stop invasion, cause as much pain on demons

fringe hill
#

Im playing on ITYTD mode too lol

last ridge
#

The only thing I dont get is the ending of 2016

elder meadow
fringe hill
#

I just wanna beat doom 2016 because my brother would only let me have doom eternal if I beat doom 2016

last ridge
#

Samuel Hayden betrays and trap you but Eternal doesn't start from there

fringe hill
#

Cuz eternal is the sequel to 2016

last ridge
#

I know, but how did he got out

cobalt hazel
elder meadow
elder meadow
#

Ending spoiler: ||Sammy wanted to continue working on Argent energy and he knows the Slayer wont allow it, he did destroy all the ergent filters and stop its production, Sammy doesnt want to fight the Slayer cuz he cant beat him so he just said good bye and sent him away for the mean time||

native star
fringe hill
#

My older brother got me into doom by telling me to play doom on PS4. I bought scott pilgrim vs the world complete edition, and had 3 bucks left, and coincidentally, doom 1 was on sale for less than that. After playing E1M1, I instantly loved it,

#

And to this day, I still love doom a lot.

elder meadow
#

Hi does anyone know how to fix the frame rate problem on PC, I got a RTX3060 and it's dropping frames ever since the second level

last ridge
#

Really? Im using RTX2060 it runs super fine on 2016 and Eternal

fringe hill
#

Have you ever tried lowering the graphics?

#

That usually works

last ridge
#

But he is using RTX3060 and im using 2060

#

Im not a GPU expert but that would mean his card is stronger right?

cyan vine
fringe hill
#

Did you have any applications open?

last ridge
#

Anyone else thinks the pistol is a fine weapon?

#

Obviously it's not suppose to be great given the unlimited ammo

#

I just feel people bash it unfairly

jolly geyser
#

It's not bad but I find it useless

halcyon bear
#

Its fun to troll with occasionally

fiery yoke
#

Pistol is fine tbh, barely use it now but for little things like shooting barrels or a single zombie sure why not

last ridge
#

Another reason I dont understand why Eternal cant have the pistol

halcyon bear
rigid bridge
halcyon bear
#

After the first part I only used the pistol to kill glory kill enemies because it's funny. Wasn't something I thought needs to be in the game

rigid bridge
#

Which is why eternal did away with it entirely it’s not really a core part of the doom combat loop

halcyon bear
#

Could have been a funny glory kill though

rigid bridge
#

Lol

last ridge
#

Pistol have saved me a few times before

elder meadow
last ridge
#

and you can sorta snipe with the pistol with the charged burst

#

for imps

elder meadow
halcyon bear
#

I've never had a issue with ammo and I enjoy the HAR scope dev rounds for that

elder meadow
last ridge
#

Something in the settings is making you lose frames

fringe hill
#

so how'd it go @elder meadow? (sorry for the ping if it annoys you)

elder meadow
#

Is this an easy game to platinum?

#

Call me stupid, or just an overmedicated completionist, but if the game is unrealistically hard to platinum, I have a hard time getting into it

#

My main problems are required extreme difficulty trophies with like one hit kills or timed challenges

#

For ps4

#

Getting all of the trophies/achievements

#

Oh, is that still active?

#

Can you exploit it by just farming friends and such?

#

Like joining a friend game or couch co-op

fiery yoke
elder meadow
fiery yoke
elder meadow
#

But even then, as long if it's not like the Wolfenstein one hit trophy, then I'm good

fiery yoke
#

Although there is an achievement on Xbox, don't know if this applies to PS, for beating the first level on UN
@elder meadow

elder meadow
#

Oh, that shouldnt be too hard

#

Is UN like ng+? Like can you start it after beating the normal mode with all of your upgraded weapons? Or do you have to start fresh?

sturdy dew
#

yoo lets go i finally bought doom 2016

neat solar
#

Nice 😃

elder meadow
#

I just beat doom 2016 now imma get all the trophies

jolly geyser
#

Congrats

elder meadow
#

It was so fun

fiery yoke
elder meadow
latent kayak
#

The Slayer's testament is badass, so I'm listening to it

halcyon bear
#

In the first age. In the first battle

hollow temple
#

And those which tasted the might of his blade called him, The Doom Slayer.

#

I hope it went like that 🗿

#

I really cant be bothered to get my ass up from bed go to my xbox open doom and read the testament

fiery yoke
#

Why read it when you can just open YouTube

#

Davoth reads you a bedtime story ASMR

azure pawn
#

In his ravenous hatred, he found no peace. And with boiling blood he scoured the umbral plains, seeking vengeance against the dark lords who had wronged him. Tempered by the fires of Hell, his iron will remained steadfast through the passage that preys upon the weak.

fringe hill
#

And then he died cuz he forgot he had ultra-nightmare on.

halcyon bear
#

Speak for yourself doomguy_god_hd

pine bear
sturdy dew
#

Yoo my doom 2016 is at 58 gbs lets fucking goo

jolly geyser
#

I'm downloading it already heh

#

Should be finished in around 4 hours

rigid bridge
#

They added 12 new levels

abstract isle
jolly geyser
#

Multiplayer

slow fog
final dagger
#

hey guys

#

whats your favorite level in doom 2016?

flint dune
#

Hmm, probably Vega Core or Necropolis.

fiery yoke
#

Hard to pick a favorite in all honesty

daring smelt
#

I have 3, Titan's realm, Vega core, and Lazarus labs

halcyon bear
#

Yeah titans realm hands down

flint dune
#

Oh damn, how did I forget that level. I’d have that tied with Vega Core and Necro. Like Classic said, hard to pick a favorite. Most of the levels in 2016 are great.

fiery yoke
#

Honestly whenever I feel like playing campaign I just start a new save

azure pawn
frigid topaz
#

Am I stupid or is snapmap meant to look like a map editor for the classic games?

rigid bridge
#

That was a lie

jolly geyser
#

Anyone getting the bug in Doom 2016's Multiplayer where it tells you "Connecting" until the match starts and it takes you back to the main menu? Kicking you out of the server?

#

I have it on PC

twilit pilot
jolly geyser
#

Yeah I'm currently doing a NM run and the Imps fucked me a couple of times

halcyon bear
jolly geyser
#

For the Plasma Rifle, right? I should do that in the mission after Foundry

#

Never used it myself but I should def give it a try

#

Thanks for the tip tho

halcyon bear
jolly geyser
#

Mod quickswapping intensifies

halcyon bear
#

Trust me man with those 2. You'll see what I mean

#

How I did my 2 deathless nightmare runs

jolly geyser
#

That's damn neat.

I was also wrong about the tactical scope, it really helped me in the very first missions.

#

It isn't useless

#

Is Remote Detonation worth getting at first?

halcyon bear
# jolly geyser It isn't useless

Not at all and beside fun it can be a game changer if you hit your shots in the right place dropping hellknights fast even. It's just the rockets are stronger

jolly geyser
#

Yeah, I totally agree. Tactical Scope is cool

naive imp
#

Just started my Ultra Violence play through on the Switch, any tips?

neat solar
jolly geyser
#

Yeah, it was a really cool animation in Doom 2016.

jolly geyser
#

They're useful and might get you very good weapons in the very first missions.

naive imp
#

Got it!

#

Also, does anyone else play with Gyro controls on?

#

I remember watching a video about some steam controller and how gyro controls are better than mouse and keyboard once you get to learn them a bit more

paper quail
#

the 2016 doom only has 3 missions?

flint dune
#

Er, no? It has 13.

torpid charm
#

I beat the Cyber demon without having to change the difficulty

#

I had a lot of trouble in my first play through but I haven't needed to change the difficulty this play through

fiery yoke
#

I have boss health bars turned off in '16 and eternal so I can purely focus on just killing

agile oxide
#

Hello everyone

halcyon bear
#

Just in games in general. So you focus on the fight and keeps it exciting

fiery yoke
#

I always smile when seeing the cyberdemon

halcyon bear
#

The baalgar is a thing of beauty. Shame they all dead doomguy_grin

fiery yoke
#

"hey big boy, ya miss me?"

#

And then I go full Dante on his ass

twilit pilot
#

why does the melee teleport me behind zombies half the time glarethink

fiery yoke
#

2016, like eternal, has a bit of a lunge to melee attacks

rich grove
#

Yeah

fiery yoke
#

Difference is that eternal cranked it to 11 but 2016 atleast has a responsive GK system

rich grove
#

In my opinion, 2016 in just a LITTLE better than eternal.

fiery yoke
#

Yeah I like it more tbh, just personal preference really

rich grove
#

I really like Eternal, but 2016 has so much more

fringe hill
#

GUYS

#

Im now at the final boss

#

At least I think it is

rich grove
#

Is it white

fringe hill
#

Its the spider mastermind but olivia

rich grove
#

Okay that’s the final boss then

fringe hill
#

REALLY?!

rich grove
#

Good luck

fringe hill
#

Yeah

rich grove
#

You’ll need it

fringe hill
#

I got him at like 1.8/4 of its health

rich grove
#

Oh dang

fringe hill
#

But then I died from blue electricity

#

And I’ll take note of this one quote from the game: “it isnt called the BFG for nothing.”

fiery yoke
fringe hill
#

Okay, Im out of ammo and my health is double-digit.

#

But her health is low

fiery yoke
#

Shoot anything you have

sturdy dew
#

How do i use other grenades in doom 2016

fringe hill
#

Oh shit it gave me a refill on ammo

#

And gave me HP

#

I have hope that I’ll win this round.

sturdy dew
#

Can someone answer pls

fiery yoke
fringe hill
#

oh shit, I won!!!

#

I beat the game!

#

And samuel haden is the bad guy

sturdy dew
fiery yoke
#

Check the controls

sturdy dew
#

I did but it doesnt say anything about other grenades

#

ill check them again

left otter
#

can i change the lighting? checked everything but i am stupid so must've missed smt

fringe hill
#

”when times are tough, and when people cannot help you, google is your friend.”

halcyon bear
jolly geyser
#

Anyone knows about the bug where you have to restart your bluetooth headphones everytime you reload checkpoint?

#

Because it's kinda annoying ngl

cunning steppe
#

hey

#

Im new and buy the DOOM 2016 what can you say before i play ?

fringe hill
#

well, good luck on the later areas, even on ITYTD mode. you might need it.

rigid bridge
cunning steppe
#

Thanks, good nightmare

fringe hill
#

oh and dont always rely on the punch just because its powerful in the early areas, and just because the plasma gun was powerful in the classic games doesnt mean it'll be powerful in this game

cunning steppe
fringe hill
#

oh and make sure you use the shotgun the second you get it. dont make that same mistake I did.

twilit pilot
#

pistol bad lol

fringe hill
#

and one last note, when you beat the game, play eternal

#

its the sequel to 2016

twilit pilot
fringe hill
#

just keep away from pressing the punch button unless you need to use something or do a glory kill

jolly geyser
fringe hill
#

yeah, and make sure to get gun mods

#

they'll help you destroy enemies easier

#

and remember to join the slayers club if you're interested!

#

oh and use the snap-map tool, its cool even though I havent used it.

halcyon bear
jolly geyser
#

And the Plasma Rifle in Level two (Resource Operations) doomguy_grin

cunning steppe
twilit pilot
#

lmao im probably missing all the weapons. i finished climbing the tower should i have ssg and gauss by now?

chrome basin
#

from secrets, yes

dapper hearth
#

Alright back from doom eternal

#

It was an interesting experience

jolly geyser
halcyon bear
#

Alright I'm back from Lego star wars

#

It was an interesting experience

jolly geyser
rigid bridge
halcyon bear
#

This is the way

rigid bridge
hollow depot
#

im thinking about refunding the game, its just not right for me after ive beaten everything on ultra nightmare in eternal, the game feels super slow and clunky, anyone else felt like this?

rigid bridge
halcyon bear
jolly geyser
#

But the question remains, did you atleast get halfway the game?

rigid bridge
halcyon bear
#

Nah. Probably not. Remember what I said. The newbs just think doom 2016 is eternal but came out before. Their brains explode without dash and meat hook

rigid bridge
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If it’s too slow compared to eternal then don’t compare it to eternal

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halcyon bear
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I just don't understand how anyone of these people play a video game again after eternal since other than eternal 2016 is one of the fastest games

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So do they just not play a game again ?

jolly geyser
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Yeah, not like he only plays Eternal and it's the sole game in his library. But if he wants to get a refund, then there's no problem. It might not be for everybody. revenantshrug

halcyon bear
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Definitely

hollow depot
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it just feels clunky and boring, in eternal almost everything made sense cause its so fast paced, i played games like half life hundreds of times and never was bored but here nothing clicks for me, confusing UI, bullshit deaths, everything clipping into eachother etc

halcyon bear
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Hell if I went into 2016l thinking it would be like the sequel but wasn't I'd want my money back

hollow depot
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ive played a ton of slow paced games but i feel absolutely nothing playing 2016

halcyon bear
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Well if you don't like it you should get a refund

hollow depot
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btw the award winning game is kinda a bs statement, we have tlou 2 and theres a huge majority who hated that game and won hundreds of awards

jolly geyser
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Then at this point you should get a refund. If you don't like the game

halcyon bear
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Dont let us nerds say otherwise

jolly geyser
hollow depot
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alright, just wanted to hear some opinions on that

halcyon bear
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But it should be noted this game is one of the fastest fps games ever created by man

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One multiple awards

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And is considered one of the best fps games ever created

hollow depot
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i think ima just watch lore videos, and spend the money on dusk or ultrakill

jolly geyser
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I feel like it's very fast, maybe has some bullshit deaths like in platforming but it's just fun to overcome the challenges and learn the game mechanics to avoid falling into mistakes again.

hollow depot
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im not saying the game is bad

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at first it felt really enjoyable but something in my ape brain just doesnt click for me

jolly geyser
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I do get what you mean

halcyon bear
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You just can get into 2016 if you started with eternal

jolly geyser
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It's opinions after all

halcyon bear
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Its rare

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They have this muscle memory they can't break

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And I guess that's understandable

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Which fucks with them

hollow depot
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the biggest problem for me was health

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the glory kills feel almost useless

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how much id love to play with the gauss cannon, i just dont think im able to get in the game properly

jolly geyser
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Not really useless, but you shouldn't 100% count on glory kills on NM because they barely give you any health, which is good for a challenge.

hollow depot
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how do you even get health in this game?

halcyon bear
hollow depot
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i know its spread around the game and stuff but it just feels like im one shot from an imp

jolly geyser
hollow depot
halcyon bear
jolly geyser
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It's not necessary to glory kill them for health, sometimes just killing them gives you more health really.

hollow depot
jolly geyser
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oh

halcyon bear
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Weird

hollow depot
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it feels like the huge ball from soldiers is a one shot

jolly geyser
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One-shot by Imps on UV? Yeah that's weird

halcyon bear
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So 2016 is very punishing. It does not baby you at all

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If you're not having fun fuck it though

jolly geyser
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Yeah, just get a refund

hollow depot
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yeah its all about the fun

jolly geyser
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But personally I like how Doom 2016 punishes me because it makes me better at the game

hollow depot
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thanks for not being dickheads about me refunding it and actually giving very valueable info whether to refund it or not

jolly geyser
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np my man

halcyon bear
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Shit when I did my first no death nightmare. Literally not a better feeling on earth

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Felt like a god

hollow depot
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damn, that seems like an achievement

halcyon bear
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Just practicing for the un

hollow depot
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also other big problem i had with the game was that i knew every boss and the ending so there wasnt any big surprises

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..besides the kickass intro which was far better than eternal tbh

halcyon bear
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Yeah see that's what happens when you play the sequel first haha

jolly geyser
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Heh, I knew the whole lore of Doom 2016 before playing it already

hollow depot
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the very first video from doom eternal ive ever seen before being even interested in id's games was the marauder fight

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so that ruined a lot for me sadly

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and while playing eternal ive watched almost any vid about 2016 cus i thought id never play it and now here i am

halcyon bear
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I bet by the time the game after eternal comes out abysse will be explaining the same thing to kids who skipped eternal and went to the sequel saying it was janky spooky

hollow depot
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lmfao

chrome basin
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how can half-life not bore you to tears or feel slow as fuuu, yet 2016 does?

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doom 2016 combat certainly becomes faster and more frantic once you get more than an hour into the game. you get most of the same weapons as in eternal (though without meathook and the weapon mods differ here and there) so you can still try to quickswitch all the big bads that attempt to overwhelm you. the difference in combat aside from not flying around everywhere, is eternal allows you to be a bullet sponge and make up for your mistakes with easy health/armor replenishment, whereas 2016 is all about not taking that damage in the first place

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so if you were willing to get into the mindset to play 2016 at a slower pace but more strategically, you would enjoy it more

halcyon bear
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Yeah! See that's the appeal for nightmare to me. You clear a room without a scratch or hit. There is literally no better feeling. That is a true slayer feeling

chrome basin
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same can be said for the game's pacing and structure. it's an immersive game to explore and enjoy, whereas eternal is more pure arcade fragfest but doesn't really excel in anything beyond that

silk acorn
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And what do you prefer?

chrome basin
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yeah, i agree it's more satisfying to pwn the demons with flawless victories, rather than just counting on being able to clutch save yourself any time you run into trouble

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i've said it before, i prefer 2016 as it's a better balance of everything that doom has always been (great combat AND exploration-based level design / immersion)

halcyon bear
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You should also mention it has the best depiction of the UAC ever created

chrome basin
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if abysse is only an hour into the game and only at the second mod unlock, he probably hasn't even encountered hell knights yet, which is when enemy speed and pressure starts to ramp up

halcyon bear
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Other than 3 I mean

hollow depot
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as i said i did not dislike the game, it just felt demotivating playing it knowing all the story, and knowing i could be playing eternal which literally makes me sweat on ultra nightmare runs which no game before has ever made, i know 2016 shouldnt be comparable to eternal but playing 2016 just probably wouldnt even click for me when it would "pick up with the pace", and im not sure why to be completely honest.
i hate seeing the exact same door opening animation playing for 10th time, i really dislike the ui and it felt even slower than half life at some points
also about the how can half life not bore me, to be honest i dont know, i could play the whole franchise for hundreds of hours and i probably wouldnt be bored, most likely cause the game means a lot to me

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so yeah i sent my case to refund the game, i saw gameplay from later on in the game and it really didnt convince me enough

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might come back to it someday but for now id rather just get some other game especially on summer sale

chrome basin
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fair enough. personally, i found eternal infinitely more repetitive and boring than 2016

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and it was tough for me to get into half-life at the time considering how poor its combat mechanics were compared to og doom, quake, or even console hits like 007 & perfect dark

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plus i hate linearity

hollow depot
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i completely understand your point, i can see how half life can be boring to some people

chrome basin
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meanwhile i have ten billion hours on half-life mods, heh. tfc 4 lyfe

hollow depot
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in eternal i just really dig the skin unlocking concept, the fact you gotta think on the run and u cant really use one weapon only, the fact that every weapon and equipment has its purpose, and many more

hollow depot
chrome basin
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2016 equip is largely useless, especially compared to eternal. (though frag nades helps in early levels and hologram is often worth the half second to cast; siphon grenade, the last weapon/piece of equipment available, is bizarrely worthless aside from completing the armor rune mastery). but other than that and the chaingun, all weapons are used similar to eternal, though usually there's one clear winner in terms of mod usage. same with eternal though, which is why they artificially created demon variants to force the player to use some of those less popular mods in the DLC.

hollow depot
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the thing i heard about 2016 is that you can go through it only with super shotgun

chrome basin
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doom's always had great weapon/demon balance, for the most part, starting with the OG. that's another reason i don't like half-life though, those weapons were horribly designed and balanced in terms of specific usage, heh

hollow depot
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i really digged the black mesa remake take on the weapons

chrome basin
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super shottie is pretty op in 2016, no doubt. but so is gauss (siege or otherwise), plasma stun bomb, rocket remote det, and bfg

hollow depot
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doesnt bfg have like a ton of ammo in that game

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unlike in eternal where u can pick up only 2 cells

chrome basin
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idk, i guess someone could theoretically play the entire game with ssg, but idk why they'd want to

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yeah you can cheese bfg drops near the end

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it does make it a bit easier

hollow depot
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damn

chrome basin
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i wouldn't say it necessarily makes it less fun, and the player could always opt not to upgrade and use that particular rune that drops the bfg ammo

hollow depot
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interesting

chrome basin
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on someone's first UN run, they'll definitely want to abuse it though, lol

hollow depot
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lmao i can see why

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in the end, 2016 seems fun but just not for me

chrome basin
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i was disappointed, i'd finished my 2016 UN run a couple weeks ago, and was gonna revisit eternal to finally UN it with my new 280hz monitor and the new ray tracing update, but i only have a gtx 1080 and i guess eternal won't support RT on anything less than an RTX (i mean i get it, but pascal gpus were given the opportunity to replicate it for other games at performance cost)

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ah well. =x i'll still UN eternal soon anyway

hollow depot
hollow depot
chrome basin
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same with 2016 until you unlock enough stuff to become god (and even then, it can get dicey. i was going for a 100% UN, and almost messed up the final map challenge, lol. ^_^;;)

hollow depot
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in eternal even slightest mistake on final boss can be deadly which made my heart race at the end fight

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i did it in 3 attempts i think

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2 deaths were total bs, and one was due to a glitched dread knight

chrome basin
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what made it glitched?

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the invincible glitch? one hell knight often does that to me in the final level of 2016

hollow depot
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he started twitching and then deleted my full health bar

chrome basin
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ah

hollow depot
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it was in the level before final boss as well so i was more than slightly pissed

chrome basin
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well fun talking doom with you, sry you didn't like 2016 as much as us still in this channel haha. maybe some other time. anyway, gotta run ^_^

hollow depot
halcyon bear
frigid topaz
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Why aren't my snapmap maps publishing??

autumn quest
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Ey yo does anyone herer still play DOOM2016 Multiplayer?

tawny geyser
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bruh anyone else unable to jump lol

halcyon bear
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No

elder meadow
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I can't get the last 2 multiplayer achivements for doom 2016 and I can't get the platinum :(

flint edge
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hey guys

final dagger
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Hii

elder meadow
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I just started playing Doom and it's kinda confusing on where to go at times, and the ledge grabbing is really inconsistent, like in only certain circumstances can I grab a ledge

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I was kinda hoping for more mobility

elder meadow
outer fossil
keen snow
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the only thing that's really well hidden visually are the classic map levers

fiery yoke
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2016 is pretty good at hiding secrets

sturdy dew
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how do i use photo mode in doom 2016

fiery yoke
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I've been playing for years and I still don't know

sturdy dew
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lmao

eternal goblet