doom-2016

[fiery yoke]

Fun fact: in arcade mode, if a demon is in a state where they can't trigger a chainsaw animation; the chainsaw will still get glory kill medals and more interestingly can headshot

[elder meadow]

Is a good move to upgrade bigger bombs (combat shotgun) before upgrading decreased self-damage?

It's for a UN run

[kindred stratus]

2016 deathmatch anyone?

[dapper hearth]

Hey guys, what’s your favorite demon from 2016?

Mine is the Barron of Hell

[jolly geyser]

Cyberdemon, if we're including bosses in here

[halcyon bear]

It definitely counts

[elder meadow]

Same

[dapper hearth]

Bosses definitely count

[wet dirge]

mine is also baron

[azure pawn]

My top 3 because I can't pick one favorite are
Baron
Hellknight
Summoner

[elder meadow]

Lost souls XD

At least lost souls don't stand in front of you when you shoot a rocket, they explote in front of you for you

[jolly geyser]

Lost Souls had a good design in Doom 2016. But so far I liked the Doom 3 design more than the new one.

[elder meadow]

But they aren't as dangerous as other lost souls

Specially 64, those are much more aggressive

[jolly geyser]

I agree

[tender canyon]

Bruh

[summer hawk]

Is there anyway that exist for me and my friend to play the campain together?

[elder meadow]

how

[dapper hearth]

Dude the lost souls in doom 3 are terrifying, well, I take that back, all of doom 3 is terrifying

[jolly geyser]

That's why I liked its design very much

[dapper hearth]

Okay I see, you prefer the horror aspect of doom

As I prefer the story

[jolly geyser]

I'm a fan of the horror genre myself. What I really liked about Doom 2016, is that the game still had a bit of the horror vibe we felt in Doom 3, especially with the ambient music when you're wandering in Kadingir Sanctum. Doom 2016 was really dark sometimes as well.

[azure pawn]

yeah

Meanwhile Eternal is super bright

and the only areas that feel demonic are the ones in the overtaken cities and in hell

Something I didn't get is if Hell had invaded sentinel prime then how come there were still lush forests and relatively clean environments instead of flesh growths and blood everywhere and symbols and all that?

[jolly geyser]

Vacuum cleaner bro.

[halcyon bear]

The UAC facility in 2016 was designed after the doom 3 asthetic. Doom 3 really nailed what the UAC should be

[dapper hearth]

Yes I agree, even though the gameplay in 2016 is better, the UAC was a lot more mysterious and creepy in 3

[dapper hearth]

On argent facility (destroyed) I keep walking off the edge because of how hard it is to see, and I can’t even see the demons, is there a way to turn down the fog?

[next sparrow]

._.

[dapper hearth]

When I played on hurt me plenty it wasn’t as foggy

[echo kiln]

Ok, so I've been playing a nightmare run as my second playthrough (after my original uv run). So far, I'm stuck on the last fight in advanced research complex

[dapper hearth]

@echo kiln I haven’t played on nightmare yet but I will soon

Try to stay away from the demons, but don’t corner yourself

And use quickswap as much as you can

Watch your ammo

And preform glory kills whenever you can

Hope that helped

If not then ig I’m just stupid

[kindred stratus]

man i wanna do a bunch of doomin tonight like, hopefully some of y’all be around later for the stream

[dapper hearth]

Yeah I’ll see if I’ll be there

[snow dawn]

vega and doomguy are buddies

[tacit crest]

Yes

[snow dawn]

cyberdemon

[tacit crest]

I text RP as Slayer in a server I own, and he is paired with VEGA as if VEGA was alternatively saved to his suit as well as the fortress

[halcyon bear]

Yeah the balgaar is epic. Have its skull right beside me

[jolly geyser]

Fucking gigachad

[mellow seal]

pinkies (i think they are cute)

[exotic garnet]

I didn't like how they treated VEGA in Eternal

I feel like he should've just been an AI

[balmy prawn]

Genuine question: do people quick switch in 2016?

[silk acorn]

Of course

[next sparrow]

I just finished the game for the first time right now

turning at 30-50 fps

._.

[dapper hearth]

jesus

[next sparrow]

yes I have an intel core-I3

._.

[dapper hearth]

i tried watching the stream but it was flashing green

[next sparrow]

and I am on laptop

[dapper hearth]

god why would you do that

its difficult on console

cant imagine laptop

[next sparrow]

._.

it wasn't that hard

[dapper hearth]

what difficulty was it on?

[next sparrow]

knowing the fact that because I turn at 30 fps somtimes the game begin to be slower and its easyer to aim or other things

is like

the time in game is slow

also the sounds are not

[dapper hearth]

i started out with "I'm too young to die" i know alot of people dont like it when people do that difficulty, but im working my way up

im playing through the campaign on ''hurt me plenty'' rn

[next sparrow]

I was on nightmare

still died plenty of times

[dapper hearth]

oof\

[next sparrow]

I am gonna try the ultra-nightmare later

[dapper hearth]

nightmare on console is almost impossible

cause you cant turn fast enough

[next sparrow]

imagine it on my pc(laptop) but 10 or even 20 times worse

[dapper hearth]

so basically literally impossible to play

[next sparrow]

ik

[dapper hearth]

i put on ultra nightmare and i couldnt make it past the second mission

[next sparrow]

._.

hm

[dapper hearth]

then again i cant turn up the sensitivity

and i also suck

so

lol

[next sparrow]

I know that my pc even if the processor is just an intel core i3 can run games that can function with intel cor i5

so ...

maybe I can play doom eternal too

._.

[dapper hearth]

oof

[jolly geyser]

I finished it with 5fps

No joke

[dapper hearth]

boi why would you do that

[jolly geyser]

https://tenor.com/view/samuel-hayden-doom-doom2016-crucible-gif-19831506

[dapper hearth]

indeed

[halcyon bear]

Not even a little. I've done it 15 plus times 2 with no deaths and recording a un run. I use only a controller. Just because you can't use something doesn't mean it's unusable

[dapper hearth]

like i said

i suck

[jolly geyser]

Oof

[dapper hearth]

also my sensitivity is almost all the way down and i cant change it

[versed cipher]

https://tenor.com/view/disgusting-ew-ewwww-regular-show-gif-13979447

[dapper hearth]

I like playing doom i just struggle with it

[halcyon bear]

Try setting your Horizontal to 85 vertical to 80.

[elder meadow]

Do you think Id will ever make the bots for this game available offline?

[tired raptor]

My doom fps keeps dropping to 20 can anyone help ?

[azure pawn]

Don’t tell me you were using touchpad

[full cliff]

yesterday doom was fine ultra setting now today its very laggy

i dont know why

i got good enough hardware for this game

[elder meadow]

I've been playing on nightmare difficulty and haven't been having fun. Is it supposed to be a masochist difficulty or should I stick with it and get better?

[rigid bridge]

Nightmare is supposed to be unfair in doom 2016, even one of the developers said so I think

So if you want an actual fun challenging nightmare mode I’d head to doom eternal

And by “supposed to” I mean that I’ve heard that it is, not that it was the intention

So I think it’s just a masochist difficulty

[halcyon bear]

Definitely need to stick with it and get better. I've put in hours in this game and uv eventually becomes boring. Nightmare keeps it fresh and once you get the hang of things you'll love it

In my opinion nightmare is unfair early on but it's it's best difficulty in 2016

[stiff tide]

should i get doom 2016 if i already have eternal

its on sale

[flint dune]

Yes, just keep in mind 2016 is it’s own game. Don’t try to play it like Eternal.

[rancid quiver]

I just bought doom 2016

It was for 17$ pretty cheap compared to eternal

Can’t wait to play it

[flint dune]

Nice

[drifting gust]

I always forget that heavy rifle doesn’t have pb and gauss cannon does

In 2016

[snow dawn]

lore

[elder meadow]

I don't think that Nightmare is unfair but rather really hard

I think that UN can be considered unfair by almost all players

I've beaten it quite a number of times but it can still be unforgiving and annoying at times

The earlier levels especially tend to be annoying

[halcyon bear]

Yeah I feel like people give up early on and that's the main issue

[elder meadow]

If you can beat the second level on UN you can probably beat UN

you just need to put the time in and accept that you will die 20-40 times

[exotic garnet]

I don't think I have the time for that.

[elder meadow]

It was about an 100 hour commitment for me

[exotic garnet]

Yep, I don't have the time for that. Would probably take 1000hours for me as well.

I'm getting trashed on NM

[halcyon bear]

If you're not having fun theres no shame in lowering the difficulty

[elder meadow]

I died on Nightmare like 10 times on the first run

UN takes time and slowly getting better to complete

[runic valley]

I still have trouble on Ultra Violence

[halcyon bear]

Never even contemplated a UN run until my no death nightmares

[exotic garnet]

I've already died like ...I don't know how many times.

To the point where I'm just like: fk this shit I just wanna complete it and go home

[elder meadow]

Do you want to know how many times I died on the first level of UN

80 times, That's how bad I was at Nightmare

[runic valley]

I don't see why the game should be overly challenging, it doesn't even make sense in the story for doomguy to die in 3 hits. I think you're supposed to feel powerful without running around the map hiding from the demons.

[elder meadow]

I have beaten UN numerous times now so it goes to show with enough time and improvement almost anyone can master 2016 and do UN

[exotic garnet]

Already getting exhaustion and headaches every encounter

[runic valley]

I just don't think Nightmare is fun.

[elder meadow]

Because Classic Doom had overly challenging difficulties

[halcyon bear]

You basically are supposed to be good enough to avoid damage completely which is doom guy

[elder meadow]

and also people like doing hard stuff so they would want a challenge

[runic valley]

Honestly, classic doom was easy in my opinion.

[exotic garnet]

Not only am I slow, but my computer starts lagging when I quick switch

[runic valley]

I think Classic Doom is way easier than the remakes.

[exotic garnet]

I quick switch, press fire

[halcyon bear]

Thats a huge statement. I'm guessing you're not including the wads out there

[elder meadow]

Doom 1 is very easy compared to lots of things out there

[exotic garnet]

And nothing happens.

[runic valley]

Doom was easy, Doom 2 was challenging, Final Doom was pure hell.

[elder meadow]

Playing Plutonia for the first time on UV is a wake up call that you are trash

[halcyon bear]

Nah final doom is fine. Honestly it's like the junior high of classic doom.

[exotic garnet]

Don't need a wake up call. Been trash me whole life

[elder meadow]

Plutonia II kicked my ass even harder and made me realize I was bad at Classic Doom

[runic valley]

I will never play final doom ever again.

[exotic garnet]

I only play Doom because I can't play multiplayer games

I can only play singleplayer

[halcyon bear]

Its just like your modern progression. Just need to put time in

[runic valley]

Doom was fun, but Final Doom is just a test to see how many cyberdemons you can cram into one hallway.

[elder meadow]

I don't know how much more skilled I can get though

Plutonia II is very hard and it's basically considered easy by modern standards

[runic valley]

I hated Plutonia.

[elder meadow]

I saw a list of WADS ranked in difficulty from 1 to 10 and Plutonia was 2 and Plutonia II was 3

[runic valley]

What's a WAD?

[halcyon bear]

Classic doom is definitely more challenging than my 2016 playthoughs. But it's just a adjustment. It becomes second nature just like your 2016 growth

[halcyon bear]

Its 99 percent of what makes classic doom amazing

[elder meadow]

"Where's All the Data" which is the file that contains the information for a mod

[runic valley]

Ah, cool!

[elder meadow]

IWAD's are the main games: Ultimate Doom, Doom II, TNT, Plutonia

[runic valley]

I love Brutal Doom and Project Brutality.

[halcyon bear]

If you started to play the maps and creations out there people made right now it would still take you until forever to play them all

[runic valley]

Yeah, there are a ton.

I've even seen a Doom II mod called Brutal Minecraft, they made absolutely everything.

There's even that one hentai doom which we must never speak of.

[halcyon bear]

Hell you can play 2016 through classic. Pretty insane

[elder meadow]

Probably because half of them would take you 10000 attempts

[exotic garnet]

Saw that on Oyff's channel

[runic valley]

You poor soul.

[elder meadow]

Ah yes I totally enjoy entering a room with 30 chaingunners

[halcyon bear]

Nah it's just practice. I'm about to be the first person ever to complete sigil uv plus fast. And it only took a few months

[runic valley]

Chaingunners are the worst.

[elder meadow]

Wow congratulations

[runic valley]

They aren't even all that challenging compared to the others, they're just so annoying.

[elder meadow]

Now do it on Nightmare noob

[halcyon bear]

Only 2 maps left and I'm in the books

[elder meadow]

jk

[runic valley]

Well, time to speedrun sigil on nightmare...

[halcyon bear]

Nightmare is more about speed running. Uv plus fast is insanely more focused on having great combat skills. In form of combat uv plus fast is more difficult

[elder meadow]

Nightmare is so much harder than UV Plus it's not even funny

and UV Plus is like 2.5x harder than UV

[runic valley]

Why are we still talking about classic doom on the 2016 server?

[elder meadow]

UV Plus is if you want a fair challenge but not actually unfair challenge

[exotic garnet]

Bruh I get stuck on encounters for like, 10h

[elder meadow]

Nightmare is just cruel tbh

[halcyon bear]

Not in my opinion. You'll notice that there is dozens or even hundreds of nightmare runs. But uv plus runs have maps that are simply believed to be unbeatable

[elder meadow]

Explosive shot is good for longer range on early levels does lots of damage and large damage radius

[halcyon bear]

For example my friend gingle was the fist person ever to beat uv plus map 22 plutionia the other day

[elder meadow]

UV Plus is really hard but

Nightmare just takes it an extra step into kinda being unfair

[halcyon bear]

And I should mention this is no saves 100

[exotic garnet]

Dude it's not the weapons. I have all the upgrades except mastery at this point and I'm still getting trashed

I'm really just a slow person

[halcyon bear]

And I'm just stating the fact that these are things no human on earth has done yet in comparison to things 1000s have on nightmare. That alone is all the proof you need

And as someone who has done nightmare doom 1 and 2 I don't believe it is harder

[elder meadow]

Why has no one done it on UV plus but 1000s have on Nightmare

that doesn't make any sense if UV plus is easier than Nightmare

[halcyon bear]

Some maps are considered to hard or unbeatable. Some are extreme combat focused and because of this the map sets can be longer. Talking 25 to 30 minutes for a map that takes around 10 usually. Speed running is very popular in comparison. And since speed running focuses more on completing a level rather than kills its perfect for nightmare.

[elder meadow]

But if fast monster are already in Nightmare than Nightmare should be harder

Unless we are talking 100% are we?

[halcyon bear]

No uv plus isnt just fast monsters. It's co op monsters enabled. So double or triple the enemy count and as an example a room having a pinky it'll have 5 pinkies and a cyber and archvile. This is the increase we re talking. Nightmare is basic placement and enemies that are fast and double ammo

[elder meadow]

Oh shit wtf

UV+ on Steam Version is just UV with Fast Monsters so I thought that's what we were talking about

[halcyon bear]

So sigil map one on nightmare or uv fast has a hot start with 4 imps. On uv plus it's 9

[elder meadow]

I don't even know how there would be enough ammo to do that

[halcyon bear]

No no bro

[elder meadow]

I usually only a small amount of ammo at the end of each level on UV but never really run out. I don't understand how it can be done on UV Plus

[halcyon bear]

So its balanced for ammo for the most part because it has co op placement. Basically it's for 2 or more players to play but it's just you

[elder meadow]

ok so it's basically harder than Nightmare

[halcyon bear]

Well yes and no. Uv plus is focused on combat. Nightmare is mastery of map knowledge and movement. Honestly id say both are pretty ball breaking in their own right. I just had more of fight with uv plus

[elder meadow]

I would think that UV plus is harder considering the higher enemy count

It would be very easy to just get trapped in rooms by pinkies or something and die

[halcyon bear]

Its not just the count either its the enemy change up. So Map 22 impossible mission blue key on uv and nightmare has a couple chaingunners and a hellknight. On uv plus it's 8 archviles 2 cyber demons a hellknight and a baron

[elder meadow]

Ok wtf

[exotic garnet]

I know what pro players would say: just git gud and dodge and shoot

[elder meadow]

Pro Classic Doom Players: Demons only take up 80% of the room that's more than enough space for you to get around and kill everythiing

[halcyon bear]

I love classic and modern doom though. I can transition from classic to 2016 no issue. Something just translates for me

[elder meadow]

Classic Doom and 2016 feel very similar

2016 feels like it took Classic Doom and tried to evolve it further

which it did in some ways but also changed things

and Eternal tried to take 2016 and make it evolve further into something completely new

[halcyon bear]

Couldn't agree more

[elder meadow]

It's hilarious that I can have more fun playing Classic Doom from the 90s than AAA FPS games in 2020s

A couple of guys who knew how to innovate created something better than most products that spawned from their genre almost 30 years on

I think there are only about 4 FPS games that are actually better than Classic Doom

and that just shows how good Classic Doom is that after 30 years there's only 4 FPS games I think surpass it

[halcyon bear]

Its honestly some special sauce that went in to make classic doom which no one can ever recreate. But modern doom is real damn close

[elder meadow]

I think modern doom is better as someone who came into the series blind and had no nostalgia or bias for any of the games

But it basically took Classic Doom and grew it more so Classic Doom is entirely responsible for 2016 and Eternal's success

and Eternal is the best FPS ever made imo

But it also wouldn't exist without Doom which is obviously the most important FPS

Doom is quite possibly the most important video game ever made.

I think quite a case can be made that it is

[exotic garnet]

Imo old games are fun because they're less formulaic and have lots of innovative stuff

Like I still have fun with the old Halos

Compared to 4

[elder meadow]

they also don't have things hindering them like slow movement and reloading

[exotic garnet]

I don't think it's precisely that

[elder meadow]

sure Call of Duty on Veteran is fairly realistic to real life but it's not fun

[exotic garnet]

Halo has reloading

But it's more cover-y than Doom.

[elder meadow]

yeah but generally I feel it's better without reloading

[exotic garnet]

I think is just different games with different strokes.

And I think the real gem was when we never argued about reloading, because game devs genuinely went to think if these would be fun additions to the game

[elder meadow]

like looking back on Call of Duty

I have no idea how I once found it to be fun

[exotic garnet]

That's just your preferences. I played MW2 on my friend's PC (the only place I could play games on lol, too poor) and I found it a blast.

I think CoD was great early on and now it's not.

[elder meadow]

It's unfair on harder difficulties, the tactical nature of the game doesn't allow it to be super fun, and you have to constantly hide behind cover and wait to fire on enemies

I think some of them are fun

[exotic garnet]

That's the nature of the game that's fun tho

[elder meadow]

but just nowhere near doom

[exotic garnet]

Doom is great for not having those, but it doesn't invalidate having cover and all

[elder meadow]

like Black Ops and Black Ops 2 are tons of fun

but Doom is just much much better

[exotic garnet]

Because not having it suits Doom, but doesn't suit other games. Halo was fun with cover.

[elder meadow]

Halo was fun with cover

It also was done better than CoD

[exotic garnet]

Fair point.

[elder meadow]

I think that CoD's main problem was a lack of innovation and copying the same formula

Halo differed a bit but worsened over time and didn't really ever make it back to how it was before

Specifically Halo 4 and 5 were not well done

[exotic garnet]

For 4 yeah

2 and 3 were fantastic imo

Really expanded on the whole combined arms warfare thing

[elder meadow]

2 and Reach were the best for sure

3 is close behind them

[exotic garnet]

4 was so bad I didn't even finish the game

Combat was so boring.

[elder meadow]

4 was the first Halo game I played

I was not pleased with the game

[exotic garnet]

The cover shooter style in 4 is exactly why cover gets a bad rep.

[elder meadow]

I understood people hated it though and the others were much better so I played them immediately

and 5 is just... shit

[exotic garnet]

Yep

343 completely ruined it.

[elder meadow]

still better than a lot of stuff though

[exotic garnet]

Not a very high bar tho

[elder meadow]

Fallout 76 and other stuff just question like how Bethesda didn't get a class action lawsuit for making a game that wasn't sold as advertised

[exotic garnet]

Lel cos Bethesda isn't a studio anymore, it's more akin to a holding firm

[elder meadow]

more or less

[exotic garnet]

Not gonna work lol, the amount they pay is peanuts to the amount they get through....pre-orders, DLCs and micros

That's why Doom was such a breath of fresh air coming from Id under Bethesda

[elder meadow]

I think at the time 2016 was the best FPS game

I think the only competition was Half Life 2 and that is a close call

but I think 2016 is a bit better than Half Life 2 as much of a masterpiece as HL 2 is

[exotic garnet]

Yep doom really was the best I think. I never had much fun with all those new fangled BR games.

And cod BR was such an infuriating game to download. Ran smoothly on an older PC like mine but had tons of hidden game crashing bugs

[elder meadow]

I think that Half Life 2 was objectively the best FPS before 2016

2016 is slightly better

Eternal is the best FPS and up in the running for best video game of all time

If ID Software can make a better product than Eternal they could quite possible make the greatest video game of all time

[exotic garnet]

I really wanna play Eternal, but I can't run it

[exotic garnet]

Hugo keeps talking about making a better game thi

He says Doom has a long way to go

[elder meadow]

I don't even know how they would do that

Eternal is far above every other FPS already

[exotic garnet]

That's the fun part. It'll literally be glorious beyond imagination

[elder meadow]

I'm skeptical if they can pull it off

as long as it is as quality as 2016 and Eternal I don't care

[exotic garnet]

Imo I'd rather they do something else then come back

[elder meadow]

topping Eternal would be kind of hard so idk how it would be done

[exotic garnet]

Doom slayer being put in the coffin is pretty indicative of his status

[elder meadow]

Hugo hinted at a possible Quake reboot

[exotic garnet]

He's a big fk all stick Bethesda pull out to save their asses from the fire

When they're done with him they put him back reverently and hope they never need him again

[elder meadow]

I think that it was a cool ending how they did it

I understand why some people dislike it but it's kind of symbolic that he came out of the coffin and then when it ended he got back in

The Coffin almost represents the state of the series

Doom was dead and the slayer woke up from the dead and now it's going to sleep until doom is brought back to life again

[exotic garnet]

Yep pretty much, the corrax is pretty literal in that Doom Slayer is just there to save the studio by re-animating the series

[elder meadow]

I like that the doom bible thing they're planning can fix the lore though

[vestal arch]

god i wish

[boreal dome]

That would be so awesome.

[ocean oasis]

if a quake reboot got announced i would cream my pants

hopefully it would be the quake 1 kind of quake

or perhaps make it both quake 1 and quake 2/4

by somehow tying the universes togetherr

i was brainstorming last night about how they could do that but ive forgotten now

[exotic garnet]

I got a stupid bug

Can't get past VEGA because bug

After destroying 4 coolants

Game doesn't count it as an encounter cleared

Must destroy coolants one by one.

Tried classic doom weapon pose. Works much better than normal pose

Clears up screen clutter and I don't have to rely on the cross hairs

[winter stream]

I found classic pose cluttered my screen more

As it covers a more essential part of my screen

[karmic meadow]

HL2 was an ok game, too much of an engine showoff at times, everybody has differing tastes, but calling it the objectively best FPS until d2016 seems like a massive stretch.

Wolfenstein TNO has HL2 beaten on all fronts for me

[exotic garnet]

stun bomb on the plasma rifle is the bomb. Saved my ass many times. Stun the demon, PB, lock on, sticky, mobile turret.

[karmic meadow]

METRO games also exist

[exotic garnet]

Metro is fantastic

One of the best atmosphere in games I've ever experienced

[karmic meadow]

Far Cry games are a thing too

[exotic garnet]

The game mechanics contribute to the atmosphere too

Frantically scrounging for ammo

[karmic meadow]

Lot's of stuff have been better than HL2 since it's release

I say this with absolutely no nostalgia involved

[exotic garnet]

Looking at the magazine of your AK and panicking as the rounds disappear

It all serves to create this feeling of being the prey

You pump so many rounds into mutants that it almost seems a surprise how easy it is to kill a Dark One.

[elder meadow]

I played Half Life 2 not knowing much about the game and I have to say it still holds up extremely well

The gameplay is fun, the atmosphere is great, and the graphics are stunning for 2004

The story is very good too but if you don't like it you will probably not enjoy Half Life 2 very much

[karmic meadow]

Hard disagree, I think games with better story gunplay and atmosphere exist

The only thing I like about it is the atmosphere

Gunplay feels like it’s lacking weight for me

[elder meadow]

Another factor for me when playing again is trying to imagine how the game would be rather than how it is now

[karmic meadow]

Wolfenstein has a better story IMO, but story is entirely subjective

[elder meadow]

Classic doom isn't really good by modern standards due to engine limitations and graphics but if you put yourself in the perspective of a 90s player it feels more amazing than it would just playing it for the first time today

[karmic meadow]

That’s probably my issue, I’ve tried really hard to enjoy the half life franchise, I’ve never had an issue with doom and quake and find them very fun, but HL is just alien (lol) to me

[elder meadow]

HL is more about the world and characters than the gameplay

But the gameplay is very good when valve wants it to be

The gravity gun is loads of fun and having some weapons have alternate fire modes rather than adding way too many weapons like the first game was a smart decision

[karmic meadow]

I think classic doom is amazingly solid and genuine good time without having to “pretend I’m in the 90’s”

It’s also a bit unfair to say stuff like “it was great for 2004” when trying to claim it’s better than any shooter until 2016

[elder meadow]

I mean Classic Doom is stuff more fun than most games today

[karmic meadow]

I like to see things exactly how they are

[elder meadow]

but that doesn't mean it's overall better as it's graphics and engine are both extremely aged

However i'd still say it eclipses most stuff even today

[karmic meadow]

Gunplay is Unironically better than most 3D FPS

[elder meadow]

If you told me I could play Black Ops and Black Ops 2 which are about the best CoD games or Classic Doom it would be Classic Doom every time

Unless we're talking about zombies which is actually rather fun and feels more like Doom or a faster type of shooter game

[karmic meadow]

I mean, it’s good that you enjoy the game so much, but if you wanna talk “objective” I can’t really think of anything HL2 does better than wolf TNO except maybe atmosphere

[elder meadow]

I think that the weapons have greater variety in Half Life 2

[karmic meadow]

Hmm

[elder meadow]

While the weapons are fun in Wolf there are only a few and dual versions

[karmic meadow]

I mean, the most “different” gun in HL2 is gravity gun

Which is ine of the few I actually like a lot

So you got me there

But Wolf has tons of variety with weapon mods and stuff

[elder meadow]

The RPG is also very fun in Half Life but it takes more effort as your manually have to aim the rockets

[karmic meadow]

Never liked it, source explosions aren’t the best

[elder meadow]

Maybe I'll replay New Order

I haven't played it in quite a while

[karmic meadow]

Source excels at creepy and misterious atmospheres

Which is why Ravenhold is the best part of HL2

Also why I love portal so much

But it’s never been the best for “stylish on screen action”

[karmic meadow]

Hell, maybe I’ll replay HL2

Maybe with some Gun mods tho to make them feel heavier

[exotic garnet]

Holy Wtf fk VEGA stage

The clamber surfaces don't fkin work on the last stage

Last encounter.

I get stuck on the edges. Can't move can't clamber

I really really dislike this encounter. Disliked it in UV as well. Very very hard to move at all. You constantly get stuck on gaps and just can't get out

Had to use 2 BFG shots just to clear this

[worthy lynx]

I had the same issue. There's meant to be more tech and mechanics around for the environment to feel more complex like VEGA.

But I also get stuck, on N and UV

[exotic garnet]

Need to get off of doom again

Exhaustion, headache, motion sickness and physical fatigue

I keep instinctively moving my whole body because I'm so scared of the demons. So my arm can't reach the keyboard because my legs are desperately trying to tear myself off of the PC lol

[rigid bridge]

What did we learn today?

You don’t call a completely subjective opinion “objective”

[elder meadow]

yes i am very stupid

[halcyon bear]

Forget last 100 lines of conversation. Replay doom 2016. It is better than all other options discussed

[ocean oasis]

im playing through doom 2016 for the first time (yes ik im late to the party)

[elder meadow]

its a good campaign. i personally liked doom eternal more but the campaign was still really fun. it had a really good multiplayer imo too

[ocean oasis]

well uh

i played with the volume off for the first hour of the game because i didnt notice it was off

so the story is completely lost to me

so now all i care about is the gameplay which is pretty good

[elder meadow]

its similar to eternal in the way its kind of based around argent energy. other than that, shooting demons is the entire story lmao

[ocean oasis]

yeahh lmao

story doesnt really matter in a game like this

when ive finished the game im gonna go back and replay it with the volume actually on

[elder meadow]

well i dont think 2016 had a super elaborate story, without spoiling too much of it, you just really need to figure out how to close a portal and kill a big boss at the end. i feel like doom eternal is a more story/lore focused game compared to d2016

[ocean oasis]

yeahh

[elder meadow]

correct

[kindred stratus]

i’d have volume on a little bit but only because of that awesome samuel hayden voice

[kindred stratus]

also if you wanted to compare games, for episodic aesthetic comparison Doom 2016: Doom Classic and Eternal: Hell on Earth

[open portal]

i need help

my doom 2016 crash when i put the graphics api to vulkan

[ocean tendon]

Dam

[exotic garnet]

Finally

Final boss on nightmare

It's been weeks since I first started NM

Funnily enough, when I used BFG for the final 3 barons of hell, they dropped enough BFG ammo to refill 1 bar of BFG

[dapper hearth]

Has anyone beat the "Cyberdemon" on Ultra-Nightmare, on console? i just beat it and i want to do it again, just want to know if anyone has a better tactic

[exotic garnet]

I think YouTube has vids

I've seen them before

[dapper hearth]

Alright ill check there

[exotic garnet]

Oh yeah I rmb now

Shirrako, on the PS4 I think

[elder meadow]

Yes it is quite possible to do

Proper BFG utilization and avoiding attacks will make the fight very possible

[halcyon bear]

Noice

[kindred stratus]

i have

[halcyon bear]

Its very doable

[exotic garnet]

Finally

First NM run done. Threw 4 BFG shots at spider

Was too crap to do direct counters to her attacks

[coarse light]

Hello guys

Are u guys playing doom-2016?

[versed cipher]

Nah, we’re playing the VR version.

[mortal reef]

5th year anniversary today!

[versed cipher]

Nice.

Still one of my favorite FPS games of all time.

[halcyon bear]

[lime star]

noice

[atomic horizon]

Happy 5th.

[dapper hearth]

I had no BFG ammo, the gauss canon and the rocket launcher were the only guns with ammo I had during that fight

[urban shale]

Happy 5 years of DOOM (2016)

[smoky inlet]

One of the best shooters ever made

[urban shale]

And will always be

Bless id software

[rancid coyote]

Honestly. When I first played the game, I expected it to be bad like everyone else was saying at the time, but I was very surprised. It was amazing.

Gameplay was fantastic, the story was great, just every single bit of the game has a lot of charm

[flint dune]

Yeah you shouldn’t listen to anyone calling Doom 2016 bad. It was critically acclaimed by both critics and players for a reason.

Unless you mean before it released and people were already making judgement.
Glad they were proven wrong.

[rancid coyote]

Yeah that's what I meant. A lot of people were already making opinions on the game before it was released.

[halcyon bear]

The 2 people that told you it was bad are morons

[kindred stratus]

yall must be at school 😄

[dapper hearth]

Homeschooled

And actually I’m waiting at a bus stop at an airport

[vestal arch]

critics' opinions don't matter, but doom 2016 is great and one of the only good fps since like 2007

[azure pawn]

I wish I could see their reactions when it turned out to be great

[flint dune]

That’s why I said both critics and players.

[flint dune]

Same, man.

[elder meadow]

I had no idea what Doom was but

As I was downloading it on steam the banner told me all I needed to know

I'm sure most people were happily surprised after the multiplayer was kinda bad and then they play 2016 to get their expectations curbstomped

[stone shadow]

Happy five year anniversary

[kindred stratus]

you get home safe?

[dapper hearth]

Nope I’m on my way to Cali

[kindred stratus]

ayy

eta?

[dapper hearth]

Around 4-5

Not sure since there is a gas shortage, so we might have to stop to get gas

[elder meadow]

Have any of you seen those third person videos of 2016

[kindred stratus]

okay, let me know when you get settled in man

[dapper hearth]

Will do

[elder meadow]

It's so funny seeing the Slayers legs running at like 10 steps a second

[flint dune]

Yep, looks weird

[dapper hearth]

exactly

[elder meadow]

It's shows how fast he is though

[kindred stratus]

bro that's nothing, look at doom classic deathmatch footage

[dapper hearth]

You run so fast in first person

And 3rd person just looks stupid

[flint dune]

It’s cool how 2016’s Glory kills could actually be viewed from a 3rd person perspective though

[kindred stratus]

yeah

[elder meadow]

Some of the Glory kills in third person look cool

[kindred stratus]

i love it when you get the knee in the MOUUFF

and you hear that crack

[elder meadow]

In one of them he rips a pinkies tooth out and throws it to the other hand then stabs it in the face

it's looks really cool in third person

[dapper hearth]

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=eUYcprmkfT8

[kindred stratus]

its great how he does the baron

[rigid bridge]

Oh yeah that looks ridiculous

[halcyon bear]

https://imgur.com/a/WWK47Yg

[dapper hearth]

It froze

[elder meadow]

Happy fifth doom 2016 anniversary :)

[elder meadow]

Every time I try to play doom I get too scared and close it

[runic valley]

I was at 60 health, can somebody please explain to me how a cacodemon killed me in one hit?

[flint dune]

You on Nightmare? @runic valley

[flint dune]

Really? It’s not intentionally scary. Bit of a horror atmosphere but that’s it really. Main tone of the game is being an unstoppable force, feeling like a badass, power fantasy and all that.

[snow sky]

thatll do it

[elder meadow]

I will try to be brave like doomguy 👍

[glossy remnant]

Yes. One element I love of the franchaise it makes you feel unstoppable

[karmic flax]

The purpose of the horror in doom is to overcome it by shooting it in the face and that’s how you get the power trip

Horror is very important as much as the action imo and that’s why a lotta people liked the atmosphere from 16

[cloud shale]

Yeah doom 2016 gave me more horror vibes than eternal.

The colors made all the difference in the world.

[karmic flax]

Yeaaa

I like eternal's colors but i think it could've used the really nice dark lighting from 16

[jagged jungle]

is 2016 DOOM capped at 60 FPS?

[elder meadow]

no

[jagged jungle]

because my doom is stuck at 60 FPS

[versed cipher]

On Google, they’re asking how to remove it

So I guess it is capped to 60 FPS.

https://youtu.be/GhhsmcoYybc Consoles are also capped to 60 FPS.

Similar to DE.

Well, not “capped”, it just averages 60 FPS since there are frame drops here and there. But you get what I mean.

[cloud shale]

I miss the rune challenges. I thought it was pretty cool.

[native niche]

5 YEARS OF DOOM 2016
happy bday

[velvet oxide]

Finally got my hands on doom 2016, it feels kinda slow at times

it’s honestly kinda average/mediocre

I personally prefer classic doom or doom eternal I guess

[rigid bridge]

Damn

[jolly geyser]

I personally prefer Doom 2016 over Classic Doom and Doom 3

Doom 2016 was a frickin' masterpiece

hot take, brother

Maximum Doom? More like, Minimum Doom.

I wonder why would someone put all of his effort and waste his time doing that

[exotic garnet]

I love Doom 2016 atmosphere. Just dislike some of the map layouts

Very restrictive because of railings, deadends and some crappy ledges that don't grapple properly, or trap you when you try to clamber on them

[jolly geyser]

I agree

[drifting gust]

I kinda need help with cyberdemon any tips

[exotic garnet]

Shoot it

Jk.

It has several attacks that can be countered or avoided.

Rockets are avoidable even with mobile turret slowing movement. Melee rush is telegraphed and dodgeable. Artillery is dodgeable since game tells you where they hit. Slashes are dodgeable. First one jump over it second don't jump third one jump again. Final attack is the laser. That one requires a PB to his head. It'll stagger him a bit

When he uses his rock walls, dodge in between his rockets Everytime you hit the wall. The slash attack is exactly the same

And that's pretty much it

He has no weakpoints other than head. No armour so anything other than a headshot deals equal dmg anywhere on his body

[flint dune]

For that laser attack, I also found that strafing to the right or left, and then changing your direction when the sound cue plays is a reliable way to dodge it.

[elder meadow]

what slow you say? maybe you haven't gotten the double jump yet

Makes the game a lot better after you get it

[brazen ridge]

i spammed the charge shot with gauss cannon, and i worked pretty well for me

[elder meadow]

BFG can stun it so use it when you want avoid an attack

Try to rocket Launcher and gauss cannon mainly but if you have Mobile Turret that is good

[solid spade]

Just made one of the best decisions of my life. I bought doom 2016

[elder meadow]

did anyone else think that the doomslayer was beatboxing e1m1 when he picked up the collectibles in 2016

[dapper hearth]

I think it was a speaker on the back of the models

[exotic garnet]

Or maybe VEGA playing it over the comms

That's why it sounds so tinny

[dapper hearth]

Maybe

[fierce mulch]

Damn, yesterday was DOOM's 2016's 5th anniversary and did nothing special for it. I say it because is my favorite game of the franchise.

[dapper hearth]

I made sunglasses on artwork for it

[fierce mulch]

Sounds awesome.

[dapper hearth]

But now I’m on vacation so I can’t make anything

[fierce mulch]

Well, enjoy your vacation, then. ;)

[dapper hearth]

Thanks, I will

[halcyon bear]

Definitely put in 3 hours for my favorite game for its birthday. Felt great

[karmic flax]

Still love 16

[tough ridge]

Does anyone know if there's a way to bind both use and melee to a key? I don't like switching between E and F all the time. I'd prefer it if I could just use E.

[dapper hearth]

Use Xbox

Lol

It has them as the same key but idk how PC works

[snow sky]

its the same for me, idrk how, im on pc

[tough ridge]

I have an Xbox, but want to try it out on PC.

[dapper hearth]

Yeah I don’t have it on PC sorry I can’t help

[native niche]

do people play the 2016 multiplayer anymore

[dapper hearth]

I tried

Not many people do

[native niche]

sad

[dapper hearth]

Not anymore

[native niche]

welp im getting eternal tomorrow so

[dapper hearth]

Well that sounds fun

I really wish that I had eternal

[dapper hearth]

Check videos

[rigid bridge]

It’s 20 dollars instead of 60 on steam until may 16

If you really want it you should get it now

[drifting gust]

rip my save file got corrupted

[rigid bridge]

Damn that sucks

[drifting gust]

time to start over

[dapper hearth]

I just can’t get it in general, my mother hates DOOM, and I’m sure she wouldn’t allow my Father to get it for me

[rigid bridge]

Rip

Well I haven’t seen much doom 2016 but eternal seems less brutal and impactful than doom 2016

You could say something about that

[dapper hearth]

No no, she hates DOOM as in like, she’s very Christian, she hates satanic stuff

[flint dune]

Eternal in general is more light hearted. That’s not to say it doesn’t have it’s fair share of brutality, and there’s still satanic imagery.

[dapper hearth]

It’s the satanistic topic that she hates

From every doom game

[rigid bridge]

How do all these Christians not get that the demons are the bad guys

When doom 1 came out it was a thing and still is I guess

[dapper hearth]

I am a Christian but I get it, you be killing the things we need gone irl lol

[rigid bridge]

I’m also Christian and it occasion embarrasses me to be one

[dapper hearth]

I know, I really can’t bring up that I play DOOM around my hardcore Christian friends

[rigid bridge]

Oh god

That sounds even worse than just a strict mom

I’m sorry

[dapper hearth]

Eh it’s fine

I have a few friends who love doom, it’s just hard to find people who enjoy the games I do

[snow dawn]

Christian family?

Just tell them you kill demons

Ez

[jolly geyser]

Yeah but, satanic imagery

[snow dawn]

Yeah but, you coat it in blood

[dapper hearth]

Lmao

[jolly geyser]

Most religions are against anger and say that it satisfies the devil himself

But it's a video game lol

Just tell them that

[snow dawn]

A video game where according to christians kills the devil with his own fuel

[dapper hearth]

It’s just the satanic imagery and pentagrams and shit like that

[jolly geyser]

basically, yes

[snow dawn]

Just say that doomguy’s one hell of a christian

[jolly geyser]

Because you aren't supposed to insult Satan himself in certain religions as well

[dapper hearth]

They don’t swear

[snow dawn]

Then say heck

[dapper hearth]

Christianity is fine with insulting satan

Well he did use the Bible in one of his “quests”

[snow dawn]

What about kicking him in the balls? Because that’s literally what doom is

[jolly geyser]

Say that Doomguy is a powerful christian that's completely against demons and his objective is to eradicate all of them

[dapper hearth]

Because they killed his pet bunny Daisey

[jolly geyser]

Hell, even in Eternal's ending the satanic symbols on Earth are supposed to be gone I think

Because when you see Earth from space, there aren't symbols?

I guess

[snow dawn]

Daisy*

[dapper hearth]

Yeah sorry

Wait afk

[snow dawn]

Ok

[jolly geyser]

Doomguy is also mad because the demons brutalized the rest of the marines in classic Doom

He saw humans getting brutalized and shit

If I was in his place, I'd be hella mad

Unless you hate humanity to an unimaginable degree

which isn't natural

[snow dawn]

No he’s just doing his job then he goes to earth and sees they killed daisy... rip

And tear

[dapper hearth]

I’m trying to let my mother get classic DOOM on my phone

[snow dawn]

Big brain time

[dapper hearth]

Lol

[jolly geyser]

The man was mad as fuck because his commander ordered him to shoot innocents

[snow dawn]

Doomguy had a fucking point, but then

[jolly geyser]

For sure he's mad for humanity too

besides his rabbit

[snow dawn]

You are going to brazil PHOBOS

[jolly geyser]

and family, I guess

oh no

[dapper hearth]

Who is doomguys family

[snow dawn]

His family

[dapper hearth]

wOah

[snow dawn]

I know right

Crazy shit

[dapper hearth]

Dude I had no idea

[snow dawn]

Who woulda thought he was related to his family

[dapper hearth]

I know right

[jolly geyser]

Probably Blazkowicz' descendants

[snow dawn]

Yeah he’s related to bj from wolfenstein

[halcyon bear]

Not the bj from the new order timeline though

That timeline is fucked

[jolly geyser]

It's the old BJ

From the classic games

Remember Wolfenstein 3D

[halcyon bear]

The nazis are so advanced they probably would have discovered a portal to hell and argent by the 2000s if the world wasn't going to end because of Hitler

[snow dawn]

No hitler ded

[halcyon bear]

Yeah. Him dying triggered a doomsday device that's ending the world

[snow dawn]

But that ded

[halcyon bear]

In the new order universe

[minor cloud]

I need help I install doom 2016 and it does not open

[tulip jewel]

Has anyone by chance seen a MattyOU818 in Multiplayer 😈

[elder meadow]

No

Come to think of it I never saw another soul on Xbox one doom 2016 multiplayer

[tulip jewel]

Mfw PS4 👀

[worthy hedge]

does anyone want to play multiplayer doom 2016 im trying to get achievements but the online servers are very ded

im on pc btw

[dull cargo]

Are there any problems story-wise with getting into doom by starting with doom 2016?

[worthy hedge]

from my experience no

[versed cipher]

Not really, Classic Doom doesn’t exactly put too much emphasis on the story and 2016 was the first Doom game (besides Doom 3 but excluding it because the game isn’t canon to the actual story arcs) to do more with the story portions of the game.

[left wing]

no, there's not much correlation to the Classic Games. any "relevant" backstory is explained through Slayer Testaments and Codex Entries.

Though I'd rather they stuck to what originally was there story wise in 2016 instead of connecting it to classic Doom for Eternal.

It was a nice gesture, but I don't believe it was necessary.

[rancid quiver]

Just played first few missions on doom 2016

One of the best games I’ve ever played

[halcyon bear]

You definitely should give the classics a go. You understand how long the slaughter was going on for if anything

[snow dawn]

Billions of years

[opaque dirge]

heyoo

[snow dawn]

chat dies

[elder meadow]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/784504270317289536/843161706246307840/unknown.png i just bought le game

[tulip jewel]

Authorization, Olivia Piss

[hearty knoll]

hes related to bj and keen, and the picture in doom eternals hints towards his family

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/466303839352651779/843184326182699028/9k.png

doom rpg confirmed some stuff but the picture isnt confirmed

[elder meadow]

someone get on multiplayer we cant find anyone its been searching for 20 minutes

[elder meadow]

Validate the files first

If that doesn't work restart your computer

[slender quiver]

#doom-2016 is there a way to bind weapons to tab? kind of annoying not being able to rn

[snow dawn]

Did you specify the game in it’s appropriate channel?

Odd ngl

[halcyon bear]

A shit one

[eternal perch]

how do i fix file corrupt

i tried to enter the foundry airlock but it just put me back on the main menu and when i tried to load the save again it said file corrupt

[fiery gull]

can you post videos here, or are videos only allowed in the videos section?

i made a 5 year anniversary video for 2016

[small crypt]

how so?

[vestal arch]

play the ogs first

they're short and easy if you've played some fps

[finite valve]

Are Doom 2016 multiplayer servers down on PS4?

[finite valve]

I get a message that says: can't find dedicated server, check internet connection and retry (or something like that)

[compact hare]

Do you have PS Plus? Because sometimes thats the issue, if you do have it then speedtest thru the console itself and see what failed

Sometimes its the NAT Type that fails

[finite valve]

Already checked, everything is working.

Btw, I did a quick research on Google and it seems like Bethesda is already working on the problem

[compact hare]

Oh

[worthy hedge]

does anyone on pc want to do multiplayer later cos im trying for achievments

[simple harbor]

i deleted 2016 long ago so cant

[worthy hedge]

F

[wraith tangle]

how do quick swaps work in 2016? In eternal, we use precision bolt which has the faster swap speed but in 2016, there is no PB

[elder meadow]

lol

[compact hare]

lock on, ssg, gauss cannon

[wraith tangle]

lock on is not a quickswap unless there's some really weird 2016 thing Ig

[compact hare]

you could just ssg gauss cannon and normal rocket launcher shot if your aim is good

[wraith tangle]

oh and explosive shot right

[compact hare]

yessir

[noble moat]

Explosive shot is very spicy

My favorite mod from 2016

[smoky inlet]

Explosive shot/Gauss/Rocket Launcher

Sometimes I had the SSG too at the end

[tight sinew]

anyone up for mutliplayer or snapmap ?

[elder meadow]

I really like snapmap, and the infinite berserk maps, INFINITE CARNAGE!

[tight sinew]

yeah

[elder meadow]

Also, Sure.

[tight sinew]

pc?

[elder meadow]

Mhm.

[tight sinew]

alr

[elder meadow]

Message me.

I'll send you my friendcode there.

@tight sinew Are you okay?

[tight sinew]

wdym

[elder meadow]

@tight sinew Since your not messaging me.

[tight sinew]

oh dang didnt relise

[desert coyote]

Why doom 2016 multiplayer its fricking caotic?

[halcyon bear]

[jaunty mountain]

[elder meadow]

guys look at my profile

[pliant urchin]

What if you wanted to go to heaven, but God said
Demonic presence at unsafe levels, lockdown in effect

[snow dawn]

What if you wanted to vibe, but god said
demonic presence threat level 5 entering facility

[urban shale]

I still can’t believe I beat Doom 2016 without getting all the weapon mods

First playthrough

[fallow raptor]

Oh shit, I did the same thing. I was on the lowest difficult though lol

[urban shale]

I was on ultra violence

Or hurt me plenty

One of them

[elder meadow]

doom 2016 is just so fking dead

[sullen wagon]

my first playthrough i didnt use any weapon mods at all because i wanted to play it like the classic games

ultra violence

[rigid bridge]

lol nice

[lime yarrow]

Does anyone else just think that the doom 2016 weapons are way better than the doom eternal ones

Like, the SSG gauss cannon is OP

[dapper urchin]

my ? sens they dont care about doom 2016 any more can ppl just make ther own mods for it

[worthy hedge]

anyone up for multiplayer

[tulip jewel]

I remember first playing doom and I couldn't make it past the cyberdemon so I quit but now that I picked it all up again and got back into games I can mow him down

[rigid bridge]

The plasma rifle is a pathetic, generic bubble blaster though

Eternal one is definitely better

[unkempt rapids]

q

[primal hedge]

Precision bolt

They definitely nerfed mainfires though I feel like

[halcyon bear]

Plasma stun is super useful and heat blast

[primal hedge]

Like, the plasma rifle without altfires (See: Brawler Mode) feels like a fucking toy

I think Doom 2016 might've been better if it had a revolver
Just like
Feels right for Doom 2016's slayer and playstyle compared to 1, 2, 3, 64, or Eternal
And wherever you can squeeze a revolver, you do
Might fit 64 too

It wouldn't fit Eternal because they removed stuff like grenade tosses and the EMG, things that feel a bit too small for the slayer. Also, main-fires in Eternal weren't nearly as valuable as alt-fires
Revolver is a main-fire centric weapon
I think it'd go well in 2016

[halcyon bear]

I think a shotgun slug switch would have also worked for what you're describing

[primal hedge]

Eh true

[halcyon bear]

Very cool idea

[primal hedge]

I think a slug switch could work as a mod though?

Hell, instead of having mods on the shotgun have a shell selection wheel
Something like Project Brutality's shell selection if they weren't boring and unbalanced
You select a fire shell, shoot, it's basically a backup flame belch

That could work if they wanted to restore the shotgun to a mainfire centric weapon

[halcyon bear]

I always wanted a way to switch shells in doom. It would be a neat mod

[primal hedge]

I think it could work as just like
Weapon wheel with shell types on alt-fire
Like how the meathook is the only thing on the SSG

[rigid bridge]

Oh I’m developing my own first person shooter

Yeah I was planning for the alt fire for my shotgun to be slugs instead of shells

[primal hedge]

I'm developing my own FPS too, actually, but none of the weapons have very defined altfires

It's basically Eternal if every mod applied to every weapon and you could only choose two weapons

[rigid bridge]

Yeah I’ve only really come up with one for the shotgun

And maybe the rocket launcher

[jagged jungle]

finally beat DOOM 2016 :)

[lime yarrow]

Doom 2016 is just modernish doom 3

I have it

And the models are just the same

Still fun tho

[rigid bridge]

It’s better doom 3

[lime yarrow]

Ik

But gun models and some demons, and the vibes of horror

[rigid bridge]

Yeah

[lime yarrow]

I swear I had to torn off all my lights to play some levels

I found myself shooting the pistol for light

[fiery yoke]

So do you think the 2016 praetor is insulated or not

[elfin flax]

honestly i dont like the 2016 suit like at all

like just design wise it isnt their best work

but yes it might be

but i mean like it matters the doom guy can be exposed to the vacuum of space

[smoky inlet]

2016 praetor suit is my personal favourite one

[fiery yoke]

2016 praetor is my pride and joy but the Eternal design is eye candy

[elder meadow]

2016 ssg feels weird now without the meathook

[halcyon bear]

Doom 2016. Game that saved the franchise. Introduces fast insane adrenaline soaked campaign never seen for a decade to a Market filled with cover shooters. Loved by all true doom fans. Inspires a sequel because of how amazing it is. Attracts new doom players that have no idea...... " doom 2016 wish it was as good as new eternal game "

[jolly geyser]

Agreed

[snow dawn]

noooo dont kill me

[tulip jewel]

[dull kite]

....

Ok first things first. Doom 2016 has a better story. But Eternal has better glory kills, better gameplay, and it’s just awesome.

Yeah that’s all

And doom 2016 has a low ammo problem

[elfin flax]

Lowkey I don’t like doom 2016, I feel like it disregarded and honestly disrespected the vibe of the prior games

It turned it into something it wasn’t supposed to be, a halo style game

I prefer doom feeing arcade like

[jolly geyser]

I strongly disagree

[elfin flax]

Everyone has their own preferences

I just prefer eternal for going back to the roots of doom

[versed cipher]

I'd say the multiplayer is more like Halo.

The campaign, I never got Halo vibes personally.

[elfin flax]

Yes but in eternal all the drops (ammo, weapons, extra lives, collectibles, armor, chainsaw charges, bfg charges, crucible charges, the works) are colorful and bright, and floating

In 2016 the same cannot be said

[halcyon bear]

Not sure why you pinged me. Just stated facts

[jolly geyser]

Doom 2016 reminds me of Doom 3 more than Halo, but faster and gives a bit of the classic feeling.

[elfin flax]

Honestly doom eternal to me just feels like classic doom 1 but with newest gen graphics

[halcyon bear]

These same morons are going to be hating on the sequel to eternal because of new shiny mechanics

Its actually sad

[versed cipher]

I do like Eternal better than 2016, but 2016 shouldn't be slept on even if you have played Eternal first. I played Eternal first and I still appreciate 2016 for what it is.

[elfin flax]

Ngl the 2016 armor looks better in eternal than in 2016 and I have my graphics on the lowest possible settings to keep steady frames per second

[elder meadow]

Why do people complain that Eternal has changes from 2016

[halcyon bear]

No shit. The new game built on the original. Come on now.. think about it ... what game brought back this no peak and shoot stuff. Let eternal exist. If you don't have the decency to even acknowledge that it's sad

[elder meadow]

If Eternal was the same game as 2016 there'd be no point

[elfin flax]

Both games are very different

Both games have different appeals

[elder meadow]

If it was just the same game then you could just play 2016

[elfin flax]

I like eternal more personally

I like eternal more, some people like 2016 more

[elder meadow]

I think Eternal is better but I like 2016 more

[elfin flax]

Hell some people think the best doom is doom 64

Some people say it’s the original doom

Everyone has a different opinion

[versed cipher]

It's...not the Original Doom though.

[elfin flax]

You wanna know what we all have in common?

[elder meadow]

I started with 2016 so i might be slightly biased

[versed cipher]

Original Doom is the Doom that came out in 1993.

[elfin flax]

We love killing demons

[jolly geyser]

But have you ever heard someone saying that Mighty Doom is the best Doom?

[elfin flax]

That’s what everyone has in common here, anyone who likes any of the doom game can agree killing demons is fun

[elder meadow]

Don't let me catch you with a succubus

Otherwise your a traitor

[halcyon bear]

Spoiled and with no knowledge. 2016 was a slap in the face . The only game in a decade where you don't hide you run and kill the enemy and all doom fans loved it. Just because they built on that machine doesn't mean people should shit on it

[elfin flax]

I pretty much am a succubus

[elder meadow]

Doom 2016 didn't Slap

It Punched

[elfin flax]

Oh fuck off

I can’t say c*m?

Omfg

[elder meadow]

fuck u

stupid bot

[elfin flax]

Fuck off vega

[elder meadow]

what were you gonna say though

just censor it

VEGA watching chat RN:

[elfin flax]

I was gonna say that succubus’s hate demons too because demons use them as c*m dumps

So they are like the lowest level of demon and compared to every other demon would get no respect

This is why the doom slayer doesn’t kill them

He pretty much frees them from torment by killing other demons

[elder meadow]

Im glad that they made it canon that Lost Souls are the lowest kind of demon and all the other demons hate them

It's funny because that's basically how the community felt about them

[elfin flax]

Lol

[elder meadow]

Someone should make a mod of Eternal Pain Elemental with 2016 lost souls

[elfin flax]

Doom eternal lost souls literally die upon attacking

They Allah Akbar your ass

[exotic garnet]

Don't they glow?

[elfin flax]

In 2016?

[exotic garnet]

Yeah

[elfin flax]

I’d have no fucking clue tbh, it’s been quite awhile since I saw markiplier play it

[exotic garnet]

If you chainsaw the ammo drops glow

The normal ammo glows less but still glows.

[elfin flax]

Yea but doom eternal just feels like a classic arcade game

2016 feels too new age shooter

It feels reminiscent of halo

[exotic garnet]

Eh I don't think so

I started with Halo CE as my first, I don't think it is similar to 2016 at all

Halo punishes you for careless movement in open. Heck it punishes you for leaving cover.

[elfin flax]

I mean with styling not combat

[exotic garnet]

You have to use the environment to lower the amount of fire coming towards you, whereas in Doom you have to pressure the enemy or they'll pressure you.

Not close I think.

Halo is pretty bright and colourful

[jolly geyser]

Like I said, it reminds me of Doom 3 with its dark vibe and Classic Doom with its mechanics

More of a modern Doom 3 with classic Doom mechanics and brutality

[elfin flax]

Doom eternal remind me of doom 1 and 2

[jolly geyser]

With it style, yes.

[elfin flax]

Well yea every doom game ever has had different combat style

I also very much love doom eternal combat

So fluid and moving

Doom 2016 feels a little more clunky

[jolly geyser]

have you ever played Doom 3

[elfin flax]

Nope

[flint dune]

It’s even confirmed by Hugo that 2016’s art style was heavily inspired by Doom 3, so I fail to see how it gives off Halo vibes? But, I’ve never played a Halo game so I dunno. Regardless I love the aesthetic and tone of 2016, it’s great. This game is a very memorable experience.
I mean all Doom games are.

[compact hare]

In a few minutes i’ll send a snapmap id here of a new map i made, expect 7 barons.

• eternal-like ammo scarcity

[flint dune]

Ah, sounds neat

[compact hare]

Just playtested it and died at the first arena lol

[rigid bridge]

Fortress of mystery in doom 2016

[topaz heron]

Rock 11: finally back in hell where he should be

[compact hare]

Idk how to do checkpoints or give weapons to everyone so multiplayer may be broken

But asides thta you can play with friends, just avoid dying at the final part.

I’ll do one final playtest and then i’ll release it.

Alright so it’s out now, here’s the details:
Name: A Difficult Shooter
Creator: nautix_ultra, or Ultranautix Official.
ID: 3C2APXPT

With all that out, let me know what you guys think.

There we go, fixed the code

If it still doesnt show up then let me know because right now it doesnt say it’s published at all

Might be still publishing idk

[jolly geyser]

I totally agree with you, man.

[verbal gate]

It looked more like just updating the old monsters to new standards. I mean Pinky demon is not cybernetic at all

[worthy hedge]

anyone up for multiplayer?

i need 2 people for a match

2 more*

[dull kite]

Sorry if I offended you I was just feeling like you didn’t state all the things about DOOM 2016. And yes it saved the franchise I agree lmao

[rigid bridge]

Gougaru was just very defensive in that whole argument

[dull kite]

A man with passion

[rigid bridge]

lol

[halcyon bear]

This is true

[silk acorn]

2016 is still great, no matter how much better eternal is

[snow sky]

i agree, however i have trouble going back to doom 2016 as it feels so slow and groggy

i still love it and loved it at the time, and undestand why people perfer it but i really love the doom ernal movement mechanics

[silk acorn]

Everyone does tbh

[smoky inlet]

That's your opinion

[elfin flax]

i never said it wasnt

[minor cloud]

help

FATAL ERROR: idResourceManagerLocal::Init - index header bad magic 0

[cinder dust]

So im on 2016 arcade mode doing un runs, and it keeps switching me back to my chaingun no matter what i do. And when i try to switch to another weapon while the chainguns out it doesnt switch to anything, any help would be much appreciated ❤️

[exotic garnet]

It's also wrong. They do glow in the dark, so they're bright and easy to spot. Not as lit up as in Eternal, but still lit up.

[elder meadow]

Someone give me the entire lore of Doom 2016. Lol

[rigid bridge]

Big man with gun

Shoot little man

Also shoot more big man

[elder meadow]

Good

[snow dawn]

big man get big gun

and shoot spider

[rigid bridge]

Damn I forgot about that

[snow dawn]

slightly bigger man steal lightsaber

[rigid bridge]

Woah woah woah no need to get too deep into the lore here

[snow dawn]

then man become unicorn 5 years later

[rigid bridge]

[tulip jewel]

Big man fight

Big man strong

[snow dawn]

big man get hangover from tentacle man's bendaryls he gave him

big man dies

[halcyon bear]

Yeah.. never missed a pick up because It wasn't bright enough hahah. That's a new one

[cloud shale]

Basically some crazy woman decides to open a portal causing a demon invasion to kill everyone on Mars and the doom slayer wakes up and decides to clean up the place.

Stuff happens and we get to go on a tour in hell. It was overall a good time.

The doom slayer gets 8 weapons on despite having nothing to carry them so I can only assume he stores his weapons in his butthole. I will continue to believe that is canon until someone can explain where all of his weapons disappear to and reappear from.

[fathom trench]

multiplayer dead

[lime yarrow]

Bruh it's not even that bad if it weren't for the custom loadouts

I like the concept, an it's better than eternals multiplayer

And the way you can turn into a demon kicks ass

Yeah

I only play eternals multiplayer for the xp of events

Yeah

2016 jus needs no custom loadouts and everyone has the same demons, and it would be more fun

And more people playing deathmatch

[elder meadow]

I like that theory.

[cloud shale]

Of course it is dead. I'm surprised anyone still plays.

[minor cloud]

.

[rigid bridge]

whaddya want

[fathom trench]

last summer I tried it for the first time. Thought it was a cool enjoyable experience. Battle mode doesn't interest me at all. I wish Doom Eternal had a survival mode or something. Endless onslaught of demons. Those glory kills would be insane ha.

[cloud shale]

I agree

[vestal ferry]

bruh i tried the mulitplayer but its pretty dead

[fathom trench]

Ah well

[inner knoll]

DOOM 2016 multiplayer isn't dead, I played last night

[flint dune]

Depends on the region and time. For the most part it’s pretty dead.

[noble moat]

Dead means less than 1000 concurrent players

[fathom trench]

I'd go further and say less than 250

1000 players is multiple lobbies

[acoustic halo]

@fathom trench @cloud shale 2016 not dead. On every night rippin and tearin. Yeah there are some slow nights but always can get a match going.

[fathom trench]

I tried last night, could not find anything so just gave up

on PC

[opaque dirge]

who is up for doom