doom-2016

[tranquil bolt]

seige?

[elder meadow]

dead chat xd

[wispy verge]

what

[tranquil bolt]

how is it dead though

[elder meadow]

BFG, freshly fried bullets

[tranquil bolt]

[wispy verge]

[halcyon bear]

Bio force gun

[wispy verge]

Big Friendly Giant

[halcyon bear]

Bio force gun https://imgur.com/a/mBPnVYb

[wispy verge]

what even is the movie about lmao

[halcyon bear]

A friendly giant. That's like friends with a little boy

[wispy verge]

that doesnt sound good

[ornate basin]

I read the book a long time ago
I remember the ending he kills all his friends

[vocal kite]

really?

[ornate basin]

He like puts them in a pit and they starve

[vocal kite]

wow

[ornate basin]

I’m pretty sure Its been like 7 years since I read it though

Wether or not they starve he does put them in a pit for the rest of their lives

I think he and the president come up with this plan

[ancient temple]

my game is broken .-.

I got the IDDQD trophy but not The Circle Is Complete

[ornate basin]

Is that beating all mission challenges?

[ancient temple]

how’d I upgrade all the runes if I didn’t get them all?

[ornate basin]

Oh

[ancient temple]

imma just close it and reopen .-.

...nevermind apparently I have to do the ENTIRE CAMPAIGN AGAIN

I didn’t even do them from the menu, I went into every mission and found them

[dusty herald]

.

[halcyon bear]

Tricky little trophy huh?

[tranquil bolt]

oh no

does that mean if i get rich get richer through the mission select, the achievement doesnt get got

[ancient temple]

I think so

[ancient temple]

ye this one and the UAC on UN Trophies are hard for me

the Mastery ones aren’t that hard cuz I just need Weapon Points and I can get the completing every Mission Challenge Trophy doing that and the Collectibles should be easy (cuz I think that it’s just Codex and Modelguys)

[halcyon bear]

Only real issue would be the multiplayer trophies honestly

[ancient temple]

I already got them all 👌

(I just need the ones from the base game, no expansions or updates)

[crisp badger]

MP is dead unfortunately

[halcyon bear]

Right on. I worked on those ones first as well. Get them out of the way

[indigo ocean]

Anyone up for doom 2016 on ps4, online?

Like, hide and seek or maps

Why did everyone stop talking sudennly?

[ancient temple]

idk

[halcyon bear]

Having issues with UN?

[ancient temple]

ye I got to the last major fight on The UAC then I got blown up by a random barrel and now I can’t get back to there lol

[halcyon bear]

Imps giving you issues?

[ancient temple]

Nah I’ve died to Soldiers more than anything

[halcyon bear]

On un ? Interesting

[ancient temple]

yep

I died to Imps (directly) about twice, they’re either from barrels caused by Imps or the Soldiers

[crisp badger]

I played a fair amount of eternal b4 playing the UAC on UN
was very helpful

[ancient temple]

Somehow I’m really good at Eternal but I’m horrible at 2016 .-.

[crisp badger]

I'm the oppo lol but I did get the achievement
main thing is the imp windup cycle; good time for a shotgun shot

get the first modbot and get the bombs

[fiery aspen]

I

[indigo niche]

when was the release date of doom (2016)?

[ancient temple]

idk man, I think it’s in 2009

[ancient temple]

Ye I just run around until the Imps or Soldiers start charging a shot and then run at them with the Shotgun lol

🤔

[elder meadow]

May 13 2016

[halcyon bear]

Yes you are correct

[crisp badger]

it takes a couple runs to get it right

[tranquil bolt]

hmmm

[halcyon bear]

They're just going for the achievement not actual un or no death nightmare @tranquil bolt

[tranquil bolt]

What

[halcyon bear]

^

wHaT

[tranquil bolt]

oh

I said hmmm in response to “when did doom 2016 come out”

[halcyon bear]

Ohhh 1998 obviously

[tranquil bolt]

I heard it came out in 1975

[empty goblet]

Is DOOM 2016 multiplayer still active on Nintendo switch?

[polar lake]

From what I've heard, not really. You may get lucky every now and then, but I wouldn't count on it

[empty goblet]

Ok that’s fine

I plan to mainly just play campaign anyway

[indigo ocean]

Wait, wasnt the game released in 2016?

Doom (2016)

Or is it only the year that the game is taking place

[noble moat]

The switch version is doom 2017

[ancient temple]

it was a joke lol

[random hull]

Can anyone help me with a snapmap problem?

[elder meadow]

lmao

[sonic creek]

Doubt it, but playing Doom for the multiplayer is like getting a Porterhouse Steak dinner and eating the side salad.

[elder path]

It is

No one plays it thugh

[ornate basin]

Wouldnt that mean its not active

[elder meadow]

I’m getting this game again

Never got to finish it

[halcyon bear]

Best decision of your life

[tranquil bolt]

[elder meadow]

[wispy verge]

[rose marsh]

Spider Mastermind was stoopid easy

[wispy verge]

Im a noob then

[rose marsh]

bruh

To be fair I only played hurt me plenty

Cyberdemon killed me twice
Hell guard fucked me over completely
Spider didn't get me once

[frail gust]

I just finished the spider mastermind on nightmare yesterday

I wouldn’t say it’s easy

If you are playing an easier difficulty then ultra-violence then like idk I don’t think you should be making sweeping statements how an easy a boss is when you are playing on a easy difficulty

On nightmare the hell gaurds was hardly a challenge for me but I think alot of it boils down to how well upgraded you are going in

going through the game collecting all the runes, praetor suit tokens, and argent energy upgrades can be pretty game breaking in the last third of the game

I find this last play through with practice and ensuring I got as many upgrades as possible made the game much easier to manage

[tranquil bolt]

fax

I spent like 10 minutes in every mission trying to find all secrets and upgrades and finished the game with maybe 1 more praetor upgrade

and I had almost every rune, and was set up to never die, always have a shield, and to always have bfg ammo

and of course. It was literally impossible for me to NOT be able to upgrade the mods I used on my weapons since every level gave me 5 upgrade points

[silk acorn]

Including 5 from secrets and challenges

[torn marsh]

just finished for the first time

SO GOOD

[tranquil bolt]

[torn marsh]

last boss fight was quite similar to its classic Doom counterpart ngl

[elder meadow]

Of course

[torn marsh]

loved it nonetheless

[clever ember]

Is it just me or would I love to play the "DOOM 4" pre-alpha or see the concept being worked out into a full game (where you aren't the Slayer but it takes place during Eternal)

[tawdry light]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/emojis/245206566054133760.png?v=1

[elder meadow]

Arcade mode is hella fun.

[halcyon bear]

That would be why. My grandma can probably dominate on hurt me plenty. She only has 2 fingers on 1 hand

[cursive pebble]

I mean that’s all you need to use a mouse

[halcyon bear]

Also she is blind

[cursive pebble]

Oh.

[halcyon bear]

And has no nose

[cursive pebble]

Are you sure she isn’t dead?

[halcyon bear]

I mean she did beat the spidermastermind just now in front of me on hurt me plenty but I think you're right. She ded

[vague onyx]

f

[elder meadow]

Why is Goblin Slayer here? Is it because he's basically the anime version of the DOOM Slayer?

[halcyon bear]

[wispy verge]

why not

[compact hare]

“Mick Gordon” in the style of Big Chungus Song

Gordon Mick Gordon
Mick-Mick-Mick Gordon

[timid ingot]

[elder meadow]

[verbal umbra]

[elder meadow]

[inner sinew]

So guys, we all agree that the Glory Kill sound affect is one of the reasons we like to enter arcade mode

Right?

[elder meadow]

I'm still working on it

[clever ember]

👀

[open phoenix]

https://youtu.be/yc9ji1SiGB4

Why did they take those off? They were perfect

[wispy verge]

they dont really fit with the others

like, imagine getting that argent energy kill

before knowing argent even exists

[left wing]

berzerker force crush isn't very violent

[ornate basin]

I’m pretty sure the one in thumbnail was left in as a joke

[eager ocean]

plus it'd create some questions like, why doesn't the slayer just use argent magic outside of glorykills

some kind of spell system would've been cool

now that I think about it

[tranquil bolt]

in my opinion, the majority of those cut glory kills look exactly like ones that are in the game, but are slower

[tranquil bolt]

you have a spell system, and its classified as GUN

[eager ocean]

aye

fair

who needs magic when you have bullets

[tranquil bolt]

theres actually a spell system

[eager ocean]

perhaps they were just old versions they forgot to remove

[tranquil bolt]

punching demons and stealing health and armor

as well as chainsaw to get ammo

[wispy verge]

Syphon grenade go magic

[eager ocean]

powerups

[wispy verge]

powerpoops

[tranquil bolt]

the only powerup that matters is berserk

[eager ocean]

kinda missed berserk in Eternal

[tranquil bolt]

but theres like 3 of them

[eager ocean]

only Arc complex

though there's only like one animation per demon

kinda feels like an afterthought

[tranquil bolt]

thats like the number one complaint ive been reading

no diversity of glory kills

[eager ocean]

probably the best kind of complaint

[silk acorn]

It is justified

[eager ocean]

more ripping and tearing is always welcome

[silk acorn]

2016's glory kills had a lot more variety

[eager ocean]

yea

[silk acorn]

90% of eternal's involved the doomblade

[wispy verge]

well uh, the game was delayed once or twice.

unlike 2016

[eager ocean]

Id probably just focussed more on the rest of the game

[wispy verge]

luckly

[eager ocean]

the zombie bonk is pretty damn good

[wispy verge]

funniest glory kill

[eager ocean]

yep

[silk acorn]

Bonk

[wispy verge]

https://tenor.com/view/doom-doom-eternal-glory-kill-doom-glory-kill-doom-eternal-zombie-gif-18694440

and that sound effect lol

[eager ocean]

hopefully someday a mod will release that changes the ingame sound

[ornate basin]

Pinky tail slap is my favorite

Biggest flaw with eternal is that they removed it

[tranquil bolt]

tail slap?

[ornate basin]

You you rip its tail off and smack then in the face with it

[tranquil bolt]

ive never seen that

[ornate basin]

Its the behibd glory kill

[tranquil bolt]

but then again i was too busy trying not to die to notice

[wispy verge]

I didnt really judge 2016's glory kills

but my favourites would be the head stomp kills and when you tear an imp apart

[tranquil bolt]

head stop was cool if it was against the wall

[wispy verge]

https://tenor.com/view/doom-guy-demon-2016-gif-10925418

[wispy verge]

yesssss

those are so good

[tranquil bolt]

honestly, my favorite glory kills were the ones for cyberdemon, pinky, and barons where you straight up tore their horn off and cut them

[wispy verge]

the baron chainsaw kills 👀

[tranquil bolt]

i dont think i ever chainsawed a baron

[wispy verge]

Me neither really, I just melted them with the Siege and SSG or something

[tranquil bolt]

lmao

[wispy verge]

They are pretty weak honestly. At least they are on UV

[tranquil bolt]

i just did mini missiles and lock on until i could glory kill

UV was

easier than i expected

[wispy verge]

for my first playthrough it wasnt easy

especially with the amount of frames I was getting

[tranquil bolt]

oh lmao

[wispy verge]

and like

I had this adaptive resolution scaler thing

and I couldnt see shit most of the time because it was always set to like 1

[tranquil bolt]

was that a default setting

[wispy verge]

No, its a mod

[tranquil bolt]

oh lol

sad

[wispy verge]

indeed

[scarlet gorge]

Indeed!

[wispy verge]

then I realised integrated can run it too, and it does so a lot better

:|

[tranquil bolt]

lmao

[mossy mist]

:/

Indeed

[scarlet gorge]

Indeed!

[mossy mist]

indeed

[scarlet gorge]

Indeed!

[ornate basin]

Well it is 2016

[tranquil bolt]

bruh

i had never played it before

[ornate basin]

Its still easy

[timid ingot]

Talk about a splitting headache

[wispy verge]

yes

[torpid relic]

indeed

[scarlet gorge]

Indeed!

[wispy verge]

indeed

[scarlet gorge]

Indeed!

[covert wing]

I got doom 2016 and I'm gonna play it when i get home, what should I expect?

[cursive pebble]

What other Dooms have you played?

[covert wing]

Eternal

[cursive pebble]

Eternal’s gameplay is much more fun than 2016s, but 2016 has a better story, if you care for that.

[covert wing]

Ok

How long is the story?

[cursive pebble]

After gitting gud at Eternal I honestly can’t go back

Same length as Eternal’s, 13 levels

But the levels are shorter

[covert wing]

Ok

[cursive pebble]

There isn’t any important lore for the most part, just kill demon

[fallow thicket]

You'll have fun playing Doom 2016, though it's not as "fast" as Eternal

[cursive pebble]

If you want to have fun I recommend not using the gauss cannon because that thing is fucking busted

[fallow thicket]

yeah that thing is broken as hell

[cursive pebble]

The game’s second half isn’t as good because the difficulty drops off HARD

I’d say after level 8-9 the game starts to become too ez

[covert wing]

Are you able to customize your slayer like in eternal?

[worldly phoenix]

no

the multiplayer has a customizable character but not in single player

its like halo

[open phoenix]

Dude we know nothing in the beggning of the game, not knowing something is fine on Doom lol and all the other glory kills are great

[open phoenix]

In Doom Eternal we have a knife and we just use it for glory kills. Any problem with that?

[open phoenix]

What glory kill is this? Berseker mode?

[wispy verge]

Yes, Berserk

[open phoenix]

Pretty sure you can't

[ripe fox]

Yea it’s berserk

[wispy verge]

You can if you have enough fuel

in 2016 its different

[tranquil bolt]

you can chainsaw a baron

[open phoenix]

So I think super heavies can't be killed with it. I gotta see

[tranquil bolt]

i just never do it

[open phoenix]

Oh we can. Great

[tranquil bolt]

lmao

[open phoenix]

https://youtu.be/tAKs85sRxg4 lets be honest Doom looked better

[wispy verge]

which

lmao

[tranquil bolt]

you cant just say doom looked better

[silk acorn]

Some models in 2016 looked better

But some models in eternal looked better

It's a win win for both

[smoky inlet]

Perfectly said

[open phoenix]

I can. I did

[open phoenix]

To be it was a minority

[open phoenix]

When we say just Doom we mean 2016

[tranquil bolt]

no?

when we want Doom™️ we say 2016

[open phoenix]

@tranquil bolt see the title. It's easy to know what I am talking about

[open phoenix]

Whatever it depends on contest

I just like Cyber mancubus more bcs the 2016 version was weird AF. But the normal 2016 mancubus is hands down the best for me. Cacodemons were also way better on 2016. They were scary and looked so dangerous. On eternal they are the cute demons which eat bombs
Barons are more badass on Eternal but they looked better on 2016, more satanic

[cursive pebble]

2016 cyber-manc had the oculus quest

[flint dune]

Agreed

Some demons in 2016 looked like mutants more than demons though. Possessed Soldiers are a good example.

[cursive pebble]

They are mutants

[flint dune]

Honestly I like both art styles

Eternal’s demons are more expressive.
2016’s demons are more horrific.

[urban shale]

Which demon frustrated y’all the most?

[cursive pebble]

Carcass

Oh wait this is 2016

[urban shale]

I’m talking about doom 2016 lmao

[cursive pebble]

My hatred is immeasurable

There isn’t a demon in 2016 that causes any trouble once you get the gauss cannon and SSG

[open phoenix]

But they aren't real demons. They are mutants

[flint dune]

Meh it was just an example. The Mancubus also looks weird to me.

[flint dune]

Imps on Nightmare

[polar lake]

wait berserk isn't in eternal???

[smoky inlet]

I like the Hell Knights, Barons, Pinkies, imps, and Mancubi and Revenants of 2016 more

[elder meadow]

yes but its scarce

idk how to spell that

[shadow harness]

doom

[smoky inlet]

Some of them are mutants, the others though are actual demons

[eager ocean]

Berserk appears only once in the campaing

hence

[elder meadow]

yeah in the arc complex

[polar lake]

Dang. That just seems so odd

[open phoenix]

What version?

[halcyon bear]

Imps on nightmare are pretty bad in you're first few attempts but once you get movement down and no how not to get sniped it isnt ti bad. What I learned on my last playthrough

[flint dune]

2016’s Mancubus.

[open phoenix]

@flint dune from 2016 or eternal?

[flint dune]

The Mancubus from 2016. The one with one eye.

[halcyon bear]

Yeah any version of cyber demon though looks awesome to me. The concept is just awesome imo

[flint dune]

True but they’re the only demons that pose a threat to me on UN, and the only ones who’ve successfully ended my runs. So I hate them for that.

Yeah, the Cyber demon in this game looks great especially

[open phoenix]

That dude was so amazing to me. So scary. He looked so strong. With armor and everything, his teeths, now the Eternal version looks a monster from a movie I've already seen. I can't even bring the normal mancubus seriously on eternal

[halcyon bear]

Its just a remake of the classic mancubus. Most classic doom players really appreciate it's new look

I do like the 2016 mancubus as well though. Has a real mutant quality to it

[open phoenix]

@halcyon bear Idc. Let's begin with, the news dooms have nothing to see with the classic ones. An angry dude killing demons? Now it's a mix of Halo/GoW/Destiny, and idc if something is classic or not, I want it to be better. I see 2016 cyberdemon and the tyrant and idc, cyberdemon is more badass. And I mean, are there so many OG Doom players?

[halcyon bear]

The cyberdemon in 2016 is a different species that doesnt exist anymore

[open phoenix]

I know. So the Mancubus of 2020 and 2016 are different species

[halcyon bear]

Dont really mind the classic spin for some demons in eternal I have to admit. Look pretty cool to me. I do like the revs and the baron more in 2016 though

[open phoenix]

I guess we can't stay happy bcs some stuff on Eternal look more classic but the game itself has nothing to do lol. The new dooms are another games. They already followed another path. And to me, Doom is satanic stuff, violent stuff, I think it shouldn't look cartonish like Eternal does. Even when the demons are covered in blood on eternal something looks wrong to me, it's like they are painted with shiny red. Demons to me were supposed to look scary, so does hell, bcs, well, it's hell

[halcyon bear]

Nothing wrong with honoring the past and the franchise that built the foundation's for the future. Also the demons in classic are iconic for many doom fans.

[open phoenix]

@halcyon bear I know, I'm just saying there isn't much sense in celebrating it. If I was an OG fan I would be pissed bcs it doesn't look the OG Doom, just a few stuff

[halcyon bear]

That's a nearsighted way of looking at things. You can love the past gameplay and still appreciate the way the game has evolved and became today. I can safely say I love all the doom games with alot of passion. Modern or classic even 3. Enjoy each game for their own contribution and individuality but still enjoy the throwbacks here and their acknowledging where things came from

[noble moat]

Eternal looks more like classic doom than doom 2016 does

[karmic flax]

It doesn’t have to be 100% original doom, you don’t just make the same game twice and call it a sequel

[noble moat]

Heck 2016 doesn’t even look like classic doom at all aside from the Baron

[karmic flax]

By taking classic design elements but putting them into new environments, they made eternal feel like a real sequel to the classic games

And yeah

[noble moat]

As an OG fan eternal is fantastic BECAUSE it looks so much like classic doom

[tranquil bolt]

UN in 3 days

[final mountain]

(in distress) the longer the bfg projectile is in the air, the stronger it will become

[smoky inlet]

I like the atmosphere of 2016 more since it's more realistic, darker and scarier

[wispy verge]

youre doing a UN run?

[tranquil bolt]

yes

[wispy verge]

good luck boi

[tranquil bolt]

i want 100% and flex properties

[wispy verge]

Ill never be good enough to do a no death run in any game

[tranquil bolt]

lmao

[wispy verge]

I have no idea how people do it honestly

how do you not fuck up at least once

you know, just fall off a cliff or some shit

[smoky inlet]

And honestly Eternal doesn't look like a sequel to 2016 at all, the graphics are so different that they just look so different

[wispy verge]

Eternal wanted to be different

so um

[tranquil bolt]

i dontn either. im about to find out though

[wispy verge]

It succeeded

[smoky inlet]

Yea and that's why both games look like as if they aren't connected at all

Even though they are

[wispy verge]

[wispy verge]

point is, dumgui and his gunz go pew

Im calling him dumgui from now on

[tranquil bolt]

dümgui

[wispy verge]

DÚMGÁJ

[tranquil bolt]

lmao

[halcyon bear]

Did you do your practice nightmare yet ?

[tranquil bolt]

no

[ornate basin]

Do that

[tranquil bolt]

[wispy verge]

well uh

have fun with imps

[halcyon bear]

Yeah definitely do that first

[wispy verge]

Ill just tell you that

[halcyon bear]

I wouldnt try un until you do a deathless nightmare run

[tranquil bolt]

oh no

[halcyon bear]

Or at least learn which areas you're having trouble with in the first place so uh.. you can not get dead when you do un

[tranquil bolt]

the only area i had problems with is skipped

[ornate basin]

Also tip for res ops
If your not going for 100% kills you can skip the gore nest by jumping onto the fence

[halcyon bear]

Itll be different on nightmare

[tranquil bolt]

the area i have trouble with is skipped in UN

[halcyon bear]

I'm saying you'll have more difficult areas on nightmare mode. Something that wasn't difficult in uv

[tranquil bolt]

[hearty knoll]

me on mondays

[tranquil bolt]

me every day

except for the weekends

[hearty knoll]

me on weekends

[random pond]

Holy crap, im playing doom 2016 for the first time on my pc and have the graphics on ultra, no problems

[tranquil bolt]

i know that feeling

i experienced the same thing like a month ago

its wonderful

[wispy verge]

meanwhile
https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=2336542638

[tranquil bolt]

get a new screenshot lmao

it looks fun though

[wispy verge]

I cant get my ass to play the game

Im like
"yeah I wanna play DOOM, wait, I dont"

and I dont play DOOM

[tranquil bolt]

play classic doom then

[wispy verge]

Ive been spoiled by 2016

I dont wanna go back to them 👀

especially DOOM 2

fuck the city levels

why do they suck so much

[tranquil bolt]

just play 1, 3, or 64

[wispy verge]

They are probably fine, but theres something about them that makes me hate them so much(city levels)

[wispy verge]

Havent played 3 yet, but It doesnt seem like my cup of tea

[tranquil bolt]

:(

[wispy verge]

I actually really liked 1, and 64 was fine

but then I couldnt start the game and lost my saves

[wispy verge]

Ive felt like this towards multiple games, and its so weird. Sometimes I just say fuck it and start that game, and as soon as I actually get to play the game, I love it

[tranquil bolt]

lol

[wispy verge]

Im just weird I guess

[wispy verge]

https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=2335824564

[tranquil bolt]

wtf

[wispy verge]

grafiks

[tranquil bolt]

i thought it was a snow cave

and i wasnt confused why were was a white monster

[halcyon bear]

Just play the thousand upon thousands of insanely amazing never ending wads available in classic doom literally laughing out loud at you. My dog is scared now

[wispy verge]

Im not really good for those wads

[smoky inlet]

That is What I love about 2016's hell

[wispy verge]

sometimes it was even worse
https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=2334643054

[smoky inlet]

Those scary and unsettling statues with blood and all that is what Eternal is missing but I still love Eternal

[halcyon bear]

Not to mention the rotting titan

[smoky inlet]

Yea

2016 hell is the best

[ornate basin]

You dont like good things?

[wispy verge]

what I meant is that Im trash at classic mood

[ornate basin]

Play a wad call deathless its on the easier side of things but its still amazing

Great starting wad

[open seal]

Is there any way to make the chainsaw refill like in doom eternal?

The only thing I hate about doom 2016 is that aspect

[noble moat]

Picking up cans

[open seal]

I meant like a mod

[hearty nova]

ive been playing eternal for a couple months and its because i played 2016 back on the xbox gamepass in feb, is it worth getting 2016 now whilst its £15?

[halcyon bear]

It's always worth it

[hearty nova]

legit tho i dont want to waste money

[smoky inlet]

Absolutely it is amazing trust me

[hearty nova]

yh i played it almost a year ago and i loved so yh sod it y not

[elder meadow]

Its often on sale for under 15 bucks so try waiting for the next sale

[tranquil bolt]

^^

[compact hare]

They were really strong on me, and i was on ITYTD

Keep in mind Doom 2016 was my first Doom game

[unkempt star]

What’s a good multiplayer load out

I’ve been using vr heavy assault rifle and threat pulse

[elder meadow]

Same

[elder meadow]

I like using super shotgun, rocket launcher and frags

I’m going to get this game again

[steep gazelle]

is ultra nightmare hard

[flint dune]

The beginning is a challenge to pass, but after that it’s pretty stable in terms of difficulty scale

[steep gazelle]

ive only ever made it to the second level or sumetin

[elder meadow]

On nightmare the game gets easier after level 4

It has a weird reverse difficulty curve. 1-6 are super hard, then the rest of the game gets progressively easier

[elder meadow]

Especially since the last 2 levels give you an overabundance of BFG ammunition

[halcyon bear]

I'd suggest a couple nightmare runs first or if you nail a no death run you'll know you're ready

[steep gazelle]

ive done a nightmare run before but i died quite a lot cause it was my first time playing doom lol

[tranquil bolt]

imagine using level bfg ammo

i straight up had the dumbest set up

armored offensive, ammo offensive (i think its called), and intimacy (demons stagger with less damage)

cant top that (unless you replaced stagger with rich get richer)

[strange fern]

Anyone want to help me get the online trophies?

[sand tinsel]

Well the last level is very long so it makes sense for it

[wispy verge]

I wouldnt say the last level is long

[ornate basin]

I’m pretty sure vega core and dnur are some of the shorter levels

Dnur only has 3 fights

[wispy verge]

yes

[tranquil bolt]

the bfg ammo is redundant because of ammo offensive

[lethal glacier]

When you get a berserk and you start speaking in old tongue: "I shall split your skull in twain"

[tranquil bolt]

[open phoenix]

Titan?

[tranquil bolt]

yes

in the titans realm

[polar lake]

You mean right at the start of the level?

[open phoenix]

Idk besides gameplay I like 2016 overall more

UI, level design, design of everything, the bloody aspect, scary aspect

[misty python]

Okay, but one question
Who asked?

[open phoenix]

Who called you here?

Same answer

[tranquil bolt]

you legit came to the 2016 chat

[misty python]

Yeah because he made another (same) message why he prefers 2016 over eternal
I don't mean that his opinion is wrong
But how many times do I need to read the same message about blood being different in eternal?
Also his message looks like a response to question that's why I made my message
I don't want to be mean
I just can't

[tranquil bolt]

then dont come to the 2016 chat

[misty python]

But he was arguing on Eternal chat

[unkempt star]

Anyone here wanna group up on MP?

Add me on psn Ugotcrabs_

[open phoenix]

Lol I wasn't. The last time I talked about that on eternal was yesterday many hours ago. If you don't want to read it so don't come to discord. Ignore it. I'll say what I want since the rules let me do it

@misty python learn to have education

[zealous plaza]

I asked

[lament granite]

im doing a 2016 playthrough, does anyone know the best way to deal with lost souls, they're rlly annoying

[elder meadow]

shoot them, normally they'll die

[lofty walrus]

Heat blast

[ornate basin]

Har

[lament granite]

ok fair enough lol

thanks

[lofty walrus]

They normally show up in groups so I just use the heat blast I have on standby and run in lol

[lament granite]

its just bcs when i shoot them they dont always die

[ornate basin]

Melee them if your cool

[lofty walrus]

Yeah a lot of time the bullets miss because of their small hit box and how they move

[lament granite]

oh that's fair ig

ok thank you

[ornate basin]

Btw they only charge you one at a time

[tranquil bolt]

assault rifle works well

[lament granite]

yeah ive been using that from now on and it works rlly well ngl

[tranquil bolt]

i figured that out

and havent died to a lost soul yet

[lament granite]

nice

[tranquil bolt]

pinkys, however

[wispy verge]

pinkies bad

sometimes I manage to jump over them, sometimes I get bonked

[tranquil bolt]

yes

[wispy verge]

PiNkIEs Be LiKE

[halcyon bear]

Titans realm has a dead titan.

[polar lake]

pinkies are precious bois and you leave them alone

[wispy verge]

takes out SSG

[tranquil bolt]

[polar lake]

http://cdn.ebaumsworld.com/mediaFiles/picture/872200/81576294.gif

[faint plinth]

Have you not seen the blood swamps in Eternal?

soom

Nice

[smoky inlet]

I don't have an issue with that but just asking why?

[smoky inlet]

Yes but 2016 Hell is better

[faint plinth]

Hmmm yes I do agree with you on that one

The kadingir sanctum in hell was really beautiful

[open phoenix]

Why what?

Hot take: the original pinkies were scarier

[open phoenix]

@smoky inlet the why

[smoky inlet]

Why do you prefer 2016's gameplay?

I'm just asking

[open phoenix]

I said the opposite lol. I prefer 2020 gameplay

[smoky inlet]

Oh I see

[open phoenix]

I said, besides gameplay I prefer 2016 overall

I guess I said right, right?

[smoky inlet]

Yes and I agree

Better graphics

[noble moat]

2016 has worse graphics

The term is artstyle and atmosphere

[smoky inlet]

Nah it has better graphics

[noble moat]

Again

The term is artstyle and atmosphere

2016 has worse graphics than eternal

It does however have a different art style and atmosphere

[flint dune]

2016 has better lighting within its interior levels, and much like Doom 3, the amount of darkness shadows over the lower resolution textures. Eternal has flatter lighting, so things are brighter. Objectively Eternal has better graphics. Id tech 7 is a big improvement over Id tech 6.

[elder meadow]

Killing mancubus with pistol

how

[noble moat]

Dedication
Sheer will
And insanity

[wispy verge]

just damage it until its in the glory kill state and finish it off with the pistol

[elder meadow]

did. I tried multiple reg shots and charged shots and it lived

maybe damage it a bit more when staggered?

[wispy verge]

maybe

[halcyon bear]

So fluffy

Pistol only madman

[ornate basin]

I think its 8 fully charged headshots to stagger a manc

Once you max out the pistol that is

[wispy verge]

never

[polar lake]

wth somehow I missed a secret and some enemies on Advanced Research Complex.....

I don't think it counted super turbo turkey puncher

[elder meadow]

Yeah I dont think turkey puncher counts towards your secrets, that's purely an easter egg

[polar lake]

well I still apparently missed something

and i was following a guide too

oh well, I'll just have to go back and find it later

[haughty sedge]

i like how i used to play doom like a casual player of just using one gun

and then once i started switching weapons, i started killing everything in like 3 seconds lol

i literally switched from “Hurt me plenty” to “ultra violence” bc it was too easy

[flint dune]

Yep

Man replaying this game makes me miss the atmosphere Eternal did away with.

[noble moat]

Game is $24 on
US eshop

[buoyant perch]

Doom slayer wants to let you know that you’re beautiful

[halcyon bear]

Thanks

[haughty sedge]

idk why but doom 2016 feels so lonely

guess its cuz the only form of life seen is you, samual, and vega

and also olivia but we never see her lol

[mint monolith]

It's because the base is short over 65,000 people, though you do in a way meet most of them

[halcyon bear]

In a way

[tranquil bolt]

[polar lake]

Even on Nightmare I really only use the Super Shotgun. Occasionally pull out the Gauss Cannon or Rocket Launcher

[mint monolith]

I mained detonation rockets

[tranquil bolt]

i only used explosive shot until i reached kadinger sanctum

[halcyon bear]

It's more enjoyable and devastating fast swapping different combos my opinion

[tranquil bolt]

then i switched to lock on burst

[mint monolith]

It could be, but what jagged shrapnel does never lost its luster

[haughty sedge]

i spam rocket launcher, and gauss cannon, and supershotgun upclose

i rarely use anything else besides micro missiles

and also occasionally stun when baron is about to one shot me lol

[solemn kernel]

Yo I need a lil help on one of the levels

Cooling turbines is kicking my ass

This is my first time playing the game and I'm on nightmare

Ugh

The last 2 big ones are the problem

Oh nvm, I just used my chainsaw and won

[vagrant furnace]

why is doom 2016 so god damn expensive on nintendo switch

the only other way i have to play it is pc and even then it runs at like 15 fps on my pc

nevermind it’s on sale for 24 smackaroos

[solemn kernel]

i got mine for 5 bucks on pc

during the fall sale

[tranquil bolt]

got it for $6

[haughty sedge]

more like

why does doom 2016 take 5 hours to download

while eternal is like an hour

[vagrant furnace]

prolly compression

idk man ID can choose if they wanna compress their games or not

[indigo ocean]

Anyone up for some online doom 2016?

[faint ridge]

On sale on switch right now

[halcyon bear]

Everyone yet no one

[buoyant perch]

Hey y’all

How we doin

[vagrant furnace]

i don’t think it was a good idea to start out with ultra-violence difficulty on my first playthrough

[mint monolith]

no, start on Nightmare

[indigo ocean]

Ultra nightmare is better i think

[mint monolith]

I don't think you can do that on a first playthrough

[indigo ocean]

Bet

[mint monolith]

No I mean I think it's locked until you beat the game. Don't remember.

[indigo ocean]

Oohh

[ornate basin]

No you literally cant you dont unlock un until kadingle berry sacntum

[indigo ocean]

What

Oh nevermind wrong channel

[halcyon bear]

This guy is my new friend

[mint monolith]

I made myself do nightmare after not touching the game for years. It was riveting, and even near the end you can't afford to screw around or get too cocky.

[open phoenix]

I guess 2020 graphics may be better. The difference isn't big imo. But with the better lightning, different art style and atmosphere, how our friend Elemental said, makes it look better to at least us. It's the same with Batman Arkham Knight I guess. More lightning. Dark. Realistic graphics (not cartoony)

[halcyon bear]

You should have your movements and swapping down for nightmare. Map knowledge. I cant go back to UV now

[ornate basin]

Uber violence

[mint monolith]

no what I had was thinking the controls were like Eternal or trying to pretend I could dash

because Ancient Gods never left me

[halcyon bear]

Yeah wolf on uber now too hahaha. That's just how I role

[open phoenix]

Switching weapons may make 2016 baby play at least on Hurt me plenty

[open phoenix]

Fuck I wanted to chainsaw her so much

[mint monolith]

I miss the jagged sharpnel. The lock on in 2016 is actually a joke compared to the remote

[ornate basin]

I thought it would be hard to switch my brain from eternal to 2016 mode when I replayed it for the first time
But it was no problem

[mint monolith]

no the worst part is

I tried playing Eternal on Nightmare right after I was done

Pressing F instead of E

Actually, speaking of, 2016 doesn't give you anything for beating Nightmare even though it locks you into it

[halcyon bear]

I never understood how some people can't get used to one game after switching to another. I basically switch from modern and classic and never have a single issue. Probably because my brain takes the games for what they are instead of comparing them

[open phoenix]

I wonder what someone who played Eternal first would think about 2016, some might find it slow and boring (I heard a mf saying it once). But the simple gameplay, the atmosphere of the game and the art style may still conquer an Eternal player

[mint monolith]

I'm not comparing them, really. I play a wide genre of games and different platforms but I get so hyper focused into one that I start stumbling through another

hence me trying to play Eternal like 2016 right after I just got through 2016

[halcyon bear]

It takes me maybe like 15 minutes max before muscle memory kicks in

[mint monolith]

15 minutes of dying in Eternal man

[haughty sedge]

i used to mainly play fast paced zombie shooters like l4d2, but doom is getting me into these classic shooter game genres

[open phoenix]

Lol my first run on Eternal was so painful. Until SGN at least. On Doom Hunter mission I was fucked so bad bcs I didn't know how to play right

[mint monolith]

besides, I hadn't played Eternal itself at all since beating Ancient Gods the day it came out. That was probably the REAL problem, and not just confusing the controls

[haughty sedge]

isnt eternal like stupidly buggy or something

i hear it is

[open phoenix]

I used to complain the ammo was very slow, but I wasn't thinking that chainsaw gives a lot of ammo and that chainsaw recharges on eternal. Also, I wasn't using flame so much. But the thing is that glory kills are harder to do on eternal with folder enemies. Most weapons may kill them b4 glory kill stage, while in 2016 I put them on GK stage with melee

[open phoenix]

Nah lol it has bugs but not this bad

[mint monolith]

best part of the flame belch is upgrading it to that red fire. Don't remember which upgrade that was, I think the one that makes it hurt Super Heavies more

[open phoenix]

Tbh I guess it isn't an upgrade. Or is it? I just know the fire really looks red on dlc. In the main game the fire didn't look so red

[mint monolith]

No, it does, its one of the upgrades you get on it.

the dlc starts you with everything unlocked

[open phoenix]

@mint monolith but isn't the fire on dlc more red also?

I felt like Baron was in a different color. More red/pink than lava/orange

[mint monolith]

I'm actually not sure, you don't really get time to stare

[open phoenix]

I feel ya. Eternal looks game friendly next to 2016

[mint monolith]

2016 sets up just enough to completely suck you in to what's going on

you didn't know for sure who the Slayer was, other than he was the baddest dude of all time

they had me thinking he was an alien from Argent D'nur. Think about it, the Elemental Wraiths are enough reason for him to smash up the Argent processing

before Eternal went into him knowing what it REALLY was all along, and that he's absorbed enough argent to be the living embodiment of human suffering

[open phoenix]

@mint monolith 2016 had more personality (I mean the game itself, it was more unique) while Eternal gives me some Halo/Destiny vibes

Jumping from portal to portal in every mission

[mint monolith]

Ancient Gods actually brings it back around for me, if they nail Part Two

I never saw... well, you know, as being what he is and the fact that he also wanted the best for his people

he's the only villain in the series that has a completely understandable motive that went horribly wrong

[open phoenix]

Well the 1st tag mission just reminds me of Just Cause 3 dlc lol the map is pretty similar

[mint monolith]

reminded me more of Doom 2016

[open phoenix]

Who is he?

[mint monolith]

the Dark Lord Davoth

[open phoenix]

Well I still gota read the coded but I know a little about him

[mint monolith]

I remember actually wanting to read every codex I got in the dlc

[open phoenix]

Yh I mean many Eternal stuff is about Makyr and Earth, medieval places (D'nur), it misses hell and everything doesn't look so demonic. I mean, even mars looked satanic and serious on 2016.

[mint monolith]

actually funny thing is, Doom 2016 took Hell very literally

the pissy tones and rock? That's just like sulfur pits. Sulfur being brimstone.

Sulfur also smells like ass, and I remember joking to hell and back with people about what that'd be like with no helmet

[halcyon bear]

I'd imagine hell wouldnt smell to good yeah

[open phoenix]

@mint monolith what's sulfur and how do you know how there smell lol?

[mint monolith]

sulfur? It's real life brimstone.

https://www.merghart.com/bcms/photo_thumb.php?id=2294&y=540&x=720

[open phoenix]

That may look like a lazagna but that's how I'd imagine hell

[worldly phoenix]

Use google

[mint monolith]

because people have to work in sulfur pits and they get to deal with the smell and the fact that it's poisonous

[open phoenix]

@worldly phoenix oh no don't annoy me now

[mint monolith]

https://media.gettyimages.com/photos/men-working-in-a-sulfur-pit-at-chevrons-tengiz-oil-operation-part-of-picture-id527004380

[worldly phoenix]

Im just sayong wikipedia can give a much better answer than any of us

[worldly phoenix]

Imagine working in the piss zone

[open phoenix]

The 2nd dlc mission ie cool but that doesn't look really hell. I mean I know hell is supposed to have many parts and that is supposed to be like that

[halcyon bear]

Yeah theres alot of places and lore that believe hell smells of sulfer so that's a nice touch

[mint monolith]

I wasn't talking about eternals hell, I was talking about 2016s

[open phoenix]

I prefer talking with people

[mint monolith]

https://guides.gamepressure.com/doom/gfx/word/354660457.jpg

[worldly phoenix]

Well im just saying its better than getting a half assed response on what sulfur is

[mint monolith]

beautiful pissy rocks with smoke coming off them

[open phoenix]

I was just comparing both hells on my head

[mint monolith]

ah, Eternal follows the classics a little closer. I like Doom 3's hell though.

[open phoenix]

Got it. The sky also makes it pretty cool

[open phoenix]

I like how 2016 adapted 3 but made it less scary. And made you feel like the boss while on 3 I feel like I have to run and take care with everything

[halcyon bear]

You're just a marine in 3 so it makes sense

[mint monolith]

if you play Doom 3 right it feels about the same as the classics, actually. Including what you have to do to survive Nightmare

[open phoenix]

True, but in the other Dooms this simple Marine broke every demon like the true boss

[halcyon bear]

I've been saying this for a while. You can push especially on nightmare but people tend to door fight in 3

[open phoenix]

@halcyon bear door fight?

[halcyon bear]

Hes got a pretty bad ass heritage. Not just a normal marine

[mint monolith]

the feeling of running right up to an imp is what I call the Shotgun Kiss

get it right, even tentacle commandos die in one hit

[ornate basin]

You can one hit revs and anything weaker then them

[halcyon bear]

Shotgun demon rectal exams is where it's at

[open phoenix]

Well Doom 3 is like way darker. But the gameplay is still similar. Stay away from enemies. Shot. They are dangerous

[mint monolith]

no, never stay away, you'll get shredded by Zsec if you don't aggressively bounce grenades into them

on Nightmare you take 350% damage so you can't even afford to fall wrong

[ornate basin]

Or just get the plasma and melt everything

Wait is it really 350%

[mint monolith]

yes, it is. Falling can get you dead.

[ornate basin]

Jeez carmack

[mint monolith]

while your hp constantly goes down until it reaches 25, and all the regular health items are gone, leaving only the ones on walls and the soul cube it starts you with

[halcyon bear]

4 foot fall is lethal lol

[ornate basin]

Ive beaten nm before but I had no idea the damage% was that high

[mint monolith]

Veteran it's already 170%

[halcyon bear]

I did my usual elevator jump skips and found that out the hard way

[mint monolith]

I've looked through Doom 3's def files more than you'd believe but haven't found the actual part where it does the skill settings. Found where it says what to spawn, and things like the first Hell Knights having 1400 HP instead of 900, but not that

[halcyon bear]

I have to admit I didnt know about that health increase

[mint monolith]

Can't imagine it's that simple to go rifling through the code of Doom 2016 or Eternal

I took a screenshot of it just so I could remember I'd finally found it

you can set the hp values around the same you can say what skill it spawns on, same entity data. Looks a lot like Decorate actually

[halcyon bear]

I really enjoy nightmare but there are a few things that could have been added. Maybe different enemy amounts and placements from veteran. A UN mode would be a blast

[mint monolith]

an Ultra-Nightmare like Rages, where it is actually harder and not permadeath

remember Rage? I was so disappointed

I preordered that thing

[halcyon bear]

Honestly havent played it but it was bad ?

[mint monolith]

it has no final boss

also it was before they patched it and it was badly broken. We're talking the pause UI streaking into the game and me eventually knowing when it was about to crash and save

[halcyon bear]

Yeah definitely won't give it a go then I'll stick to doom and wolfenstein

[mint monolith]

Honestly? I want Quake 2021

I've done Quake on Nightmare multiple times. I've even done the expansions on Nightmare, and HOO BOY.

[open phoenix]

R u an og player?

[mint monolith]

og player of Doom 3?

Oh I had someone force me to play it when I was a child

Doom is just one of my great loves along with Devil May Cry

[open phoenix]

I mean there are people who play the og games but I didn't know they make UN runs on them @mint monolith

[mint monolith]

the originals don't have an Ultra Nightmare

Nightmare was added to the first game as a joke.

[open phoenix]

Only 3?

[mint monolith]

no.

[open phoenix]

Oh no it's just nightmare right

[mint monolith]

Only 2016 and Eternal. Ultra-Nightmare started its life in Rage's Scorchers DLC, where it wasn't even a permadeath mode, but a setting harder than Nightmare that restricts you and makes even the RPG parts tougher by increasing prices and such

[open phoenix]

What is a Zsec?

[mint monolith]

Zsec are the zombie marines that have guns and talk.

[open phoenix]

@mint monolith I was seeing Doom 3 has many new demons right

[mint monolith]

it does, and it changes a lot of the old ones. For one there is no Baron of Hell, because the Hell Knight was buffed up to work like it.

See in Doom 3 most enemy fireballs have splash damage, even if it's tiny. The Hell Knights is huge though, and you have to treat it like a grenade since they're affected by gravity

[open phoenix]

Wdym by treating HK like a grenade?

[mint monolith]

no, treating his giant green fireballs like grenades. They have a big splash where they hit

[open phoenix]

But are affected by gravity?

[mint monolith]

yeah. They travel in an arc that adjusts for where you are

[open phoenix]

Wait HK had fireballs? Wow

[mint monolith]

yeah, and 2016 and Eternal use his design

[open phoenix]

I realized that. It was exacly the same from 2016

[mint monolith]

in Eternal they gave him visible eyes. He has tiny little beady ones in 3

[open phoenix]

My problem with some D3 designs is that many look mutants or monsters but not demons

[mint monolith]

they're made for actually being from another dimension that turns out to be Hell, they brought a Sci Fi author an board

hence things like Imps having 10 spider eyes; to see in the dark

in 2016 they brought the original Baron back, and having Hell Knights be just like them but weaker or even smaller wasn't going to work

so Barons became huge hell knights that actually have a ranged attack

[open phoenix]

Oh I see. So they were aliens from another dimension which people called hell, in the design idea?

[mint monolith]

No, it was a place they were exploring in Delta that they didn't realize was Hell. The logs mention things like them talking about demons feasting on souls, or returning only to start screaming in Aramaic and other dead languages

[open phoenix]

Barons on 2016 were too much cooler..m

The mancubus was also so ugly. Scary. But somehow that doesn't look a demon so much

[mint monolith]

they even thought the zombies that the ones returning alive became was some kind of virus

[open phoenix]

They were strong on sci fi ideas. Werent the other 2 games like this?

[mint monolith]

well, quite a lot, yes. They meant to have more fantasy.

[halcyon bear]

First game was potentially going to be a aliens game

[mint monolith]

though if you noticed, the first Doom only had the BOSSES be cyborgs

[halcyon bear]

Alot of inspiration from hg giger

[mint monolith]

and from their dnd campaign

where Romero sold out the world to the devil for the daikatana

read Masters of Doom. It is a trip.

[open phoenix]

I haven't seen much of Doom 1 yet

[mint monolith]

at one point they basically go to an island in the middle of a lake just so they get no distractions while making Doom

[open phoenix]

Is it a book or what?

[mint monolith]

a biography of sorts about the two Johns with history of the game and what happened after

[open phoenix]

Was cyberdemon a boss or just mini boss? (Super heavy)

[mint monolith]

John Carmack made thermite to break into school and steal an Apple II. He got caught and told if he applied himself in class he wouldn't be turned in

so John became the myth and legend

he wanted the worlds in his heads to be seen on screen

that's why he was never done. When Wolfenstein was done, Doom began. Before that Hovercraft 3D. After Doom 2, Quake began, but he actually needed help making real 3D happen. Brought in a famous computing celebrity that became his best friend. After Quake, not good enough, need particle effects and better lighting, Quake II happens.

in the first Doom the Cyberdemon was the second boss. The first was two barons called the Bruiser Brothers internally. The last was the Spider Mastermind, but she was essentially a mistake

[open phoenix]

A mistake?

[mint monolith]

she's gigantic, and the perfect bait for the BFG because of how it worked. She actually has 1000 less HP than the Cyberdemon. And while she had a Super Chaingun that was like the Shotgunner attacking on full auto, the Cyberdemon could always kill you in a single volley.

[open phoenix]

We didn't have arachnatron? I forget what was the real name

[mint monolith]

no, Arachnotrons were added in 2

[open phoenix]

So we did not have mastermind on 2?

[mint monolith]

nah, there's a few of them in 2, but not many and they're in the wrong place to be a threat

[open phoenix]

So they werent the same?

Then it was basically Mastermind from 2016 compared to DE's arachnotrons

[mint monolith]

Arachnotrons are like tiny masterminds that had plasma rifles, versus the giant one that started as the final boss of Doom but went on to become basically the weaker of two super heavies

because she's hitscan masterminds will fight each other, and in fact that's mostly why they're never a real threat

any situation she's in you can distract her with minions, or point blank BFG shots to get her to absorb every tracer

it doesn't work as well on the Cyberdemon because whatever is annoying him will die fast

[charred bone]

Making a Survival Horror map in Snapmap

[mint monolith]

how would one do that

[charred bone]

Idk but I’m gonna try

Just a slower paced map?

[mint monolith]

I never did go into snapmap but I'd have the idea of things like roaming barons if that's a thing

[charred bone]

Probably

[mint monolith]

Since Foundry did that roaming Hell Knights thing, I ran into that on my recent nightmare run. Ran into the end of a fight and killed me once, didn't show up the next time

[charred bone]

No longer a survival horror map just a map now

[halcyon bear]

That was fast but expected

[charred bone]

I’m not sure how to do that I’m better at making action pew pew

[supple gulch]

Everyone has a fucking Slayer pfp

The average doom player

[wispy verge]

so?

[elder meadow]

ye

[lament granite]

Lol I'm doing my first playthrough and just got to the part with the first pinkies

I don't like them very much

[frail gust]

You can use splash damage to stun them by launching a rocket over them and remotely detonating it from behind them

you can also double jump over their charge

[open phoenix]

@lament granite blood punch them

[lament granite]

That's true

[native niche]

in snapmap when i pick up a new weapon it removes my currently equipped one. also 'allow dropping weapon on pickup' is off. why is this happening?

[native niche]

nvm found out how

there was a weapons count limit

[open phoenix]

It's like Arkham Knight. Have you already seen it?

[crisp badger]

You have to double jump them super fucking early because

1. They accelerate like a fucking dragster
2. Their front hit box is larger than they are
3. Your hit box does not shrink much when you jump

One or two super shotguns up their booty will fix that, but again their “soft spot” is super tiny and even being a tiny bit off will cause you to waste time
Thankfully they balanced them for eternal and they are nowhere near as much of a pain

[flint dune]

Nah I haven’t

[halcyon bear]

Yeah but mines dead

[cursive pebble]

Slayer pfps are almost always hella annoying

[halcyon bear]

Thanks weird guber face pfp guy

[cursive pebble]

Zombie slayer isn’t even a good skin

[halcyon bear]

That's a horrible take

[cursive pebble]

Your mother is a horrible take

[halcyon bear]

Are you mad because I made fun of your track suit Ukraine man with cancer profile picture? It was just a joke

[crisp badger]

being mad about slayer pfps in a doom discord

[halcyon bear]

You can also let the dumbasses run into a wall. That's always fun

[worldly phoenix]

theres nothing wrong with slayer pfps but i have seen a surprising amount of idiots with them

like 2 of them trying to bait getting banned

[crisp badger]

Yes that’s the point
The issue is what I outlined above
Their acceleration and hit box size make them a pain to avoid to bait them to smash into a wall

[halcyon bear]

Hmm never had any issues with that. But I'm glad you found a way to make it easier for yourself. I could see how that could be annoying

[worldly phoenix]

just me or does the rgb keyboard stuff on D2016 really lag

just found it odd

[cinder dust]

Im replaying doom 2016 on nightmare, and sometimes enemies drop like a single ammo pickup. I dont remember that in my last playthrough, is that normal?

[wispy verge]

yes

[crisp badger]

If I remember right there’s a rune that increases that rate
Or it’s bfg ammo maybe

[halcyon bear]

nightmare starves you a bit honestly. Thats normal

[cursive pebble]

Apologies for being a prick in the doom discord.

[cinder dust]

Oooh, so enemies drop ammo every once in a while? I dont remember that, maybe im just used to eternal 🤣

[crisp badger]

Yeah you don’t have to chainsaw every 3rd demon to keep yourself from running out of ammo
It’s great

[cinder dust]

I love the chainsaw mechanics in eternal. BUT i will say, we need more chainsaw animations like 2016, with how much we HAVE to use it in eternal

[crisp badger]

It bugs me that it’s the same animation each and every time

And because the chainsaw is really only viable on the 4 fodder enemies it’s really just 3 animations lol

[elfin flicker]

Anyone tryna play? I’m on switch

[wispy verge]

Oh man. I just got the micro missiles mastery and its ABSOLUTELY INSANE

is it also unbalanced in eternal?

I now have another go to weapon

[zenith pebble]

plasma gun wierd

[wispy verge]

I fucking love this thing

Man, mastering the micro missiles made the game so much more fun

I kinda use the siege mode less now

getting this game was a really good choice lol

is the mobile turret mastery worth it?

[inland rune]

I literally dont even remember what it was

[wispy verge]

you can fire without having to stop

it wont overheat

[inland rune]

Hmmm

[wispy verge]

the mobile turret melts everything, so I would guess its worth it

[inland rune]

Yeah it'd prolly be useful for something
Dont take my word for it tho

[wispy verge]

Ill just go for it I guess

@tranquil bolt did you try that no textures mod out?

[tranquil bolt]

no

I can’t yet

[wispy verge]

oh, okay

well thats kinda sad

[tranquil bolt]

I gotta do nightmare and UN

or I could just play no textures UN

[wispy verge]

no HUD, no textures, super low mod, UN

I dont think youd see shit lmao

[halcyon bear]

That sounds fun

[wispy verge]

honestly, you can barely see stuff with no textures

if you activate the super low mod as well....

it disables light and particles among other things

So I dont know if you would see anything other than black

would be challenging for sure

[flint dune]

Hm, got softlocked in Vega Core. That’s new.

Yep, gotta restart the mission. Damn

[halcyon bear]

Shit didnt even know that was a thing

Damn

I swear I'm the only 1 with a functional doom 2016 sometimes

[wispy verge]

My experience with 2016 has been pretty bug free

though Ive only played for 38 hours so

Super low mod + no textures
https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=2362932829

I expected worse

[tranquil bolt]

I’m here

[spare jewel]

I forget, is chainsawing for ammo a thing in this game?

[wispy verge]

yes

At least I do it to get ammo pretty often

though while playing nightmare its more like

"hey imp, I need health, goodbye imp"

[spare jewel]

It seems like you don't have to chainsaw as much as in eternal

[wispy verge]

You definitely dont have to chainsaw as much

[spare jewel]

I only played this game a on hurt me plenty which is the one above I'm too Young to die

[wispy verge]

Havent played that difficulty yet, but you probably dont have to chainsaw much

if at all

went straight to UV lel

[tranquil bolt]

you really don’t need chainsaw

I just do it cause I’m a rat that won’t change weapons

[wispy verge]

Im just trash

though Im relying on the chainsaw less now

it can get you killed pretty easily on Nightmare

or even UV

[flint dune]

I play on Nightmare, you don’t really need to use the chainsaw that much. They give you so much fuel too, that you can stack up and save it for a Cyber-Mancubus or Baron. That’s what I do.

I haven’t played this since Eternal released, you definitely don’t need to use it as frequently as you do in that game

[wispy verge]

I mean, max shells in 2016 is 60, and in Eternal its 24

[buoyant perch]

When doom slayer is Haram

[spare jewel]

It's hard to go back and play this after Eternal

[flint dune]

Eh, it is for the first four levels. I started to enjoy it again once I got to Argent Tower

[mint monolith]

I just did it on Nightmare and it keeps the thrill the whole way through on that

[spare jewel]

Argent Tower is the one before Hell

[halcyon bear]

Wheres the fun in that

[polar lake]

Doom

[mint monolith]

In 2016 you can punch fodder hard enough for staggering

[open phoenix]

Wait BUT Eternal released a long time ago you dont-

[open phoenix]

I miss that

[brave rock]

Today I got the rich get richer rune, mastered the micro missles, and defeated the cyber demon in about 2 minutes .

[halcyon bear]

Busy day

[tranquil bolt]

[elder meadow]

hello friends

[keen plaza]

Sup

Bought doom 2016 yesterday

I have a question

Tô enter on doom you need Internet?

[brave rock]

You can go in to steam offline mode

[brave rock]

I don’t think you need internet

[keen plaza]

Thk

[halcyon bear]

You dont need internet to play the single player

[inland rune]

doom 2016

[elder meadow]

You need internet only for Multiplayer

[brazen harness]

anyone still playing multiplayer on ps4?

[wispy verge]

you get to shoot your shootgun more I guess

[ornate basin]

Doom 2016 is 4:99 on ps4 rn

[cursive pebble]

onic

[pastel matrix]

Question

My PC runs doom eternal somewhat badly - are the specs for 2016 lower?

[mint monolith]

technically, but its also not as optimized.

depends on the specs

[pastel matrix]

GT710, 8GB RAM, i5 @ 3ghz

[mint monolith]

hmm. I'd say it could be done, what settings in Eternal are closest to working for you?

the problem is you'd probably have to have everything on low

[wispy verge]

what specific i5 do you have?

but honestly, the 710 will be the bottleneck unless you have like a celeron or something, which you dont

[halcyon bear]

No I mean using a chainsaw is always a good time

[wispy verge]

groovy

[halcyon bear]

[wispy verge]

[pastel matrix]

4the generation

[pastel matrix]

I do have everything on low, with console stuff to get anti aliasing and other stuff off

[wispy verge]

Thats still not very specific

[mint monolith]

You get anything better out of Vulkan or does it not support it?

[wispy verge]

you can try these for 2016 and eternal
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RNctBga6Low
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iFQIbD1FZHc

[wispy verge]

Do I get the "A toe into madness" achievement if I try to do it in the Arcade?

[halcyon bear]

I dont think so

Never tried

[wispy verge]

shit

[supple gulch]

Introducing a new speed run,
Doom 2016 Closed Casket%

You gotta play the whole game as fast as you can, while destroying every human corpse as fast as you can

Like blow off the legs and shit

[wispy verge]

you know whats the real challenge?

playing like this
https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=2362948961

without the HUD

[supple gulch]

Hu h

I don't see no correlation

[elder meadow]

just got the game on switch today

[polar lake]

Nice!

I've got it on Switch too

[lament granite]

I finally completed my first playthrough, really good game ngl

The spider mastermind fight was pretty cool tbh

But the cyber demon was way too easy

I was playing on hurt me plenty and beat him first try

[lament granite]

Enjoy lol, it's a great game. I got it for £3 on eneba which is good bcs I'm used to playing on Xbox so this is the first proper game I've completed on pc.

[gilded cipher]

It is a pretty good game

[brave rock]

If you get rich get richer, master micro missles, and have full armor. You can defeat the first boss in like 2 min

[fleet crown]

One of the best storyline games I've ever played I LOVE the glory kills and I will always remember the last boss

[halcyon bear]

You have great taste

[fleet crown]

Thanks

[elder meadow]

what.

[surreal pelican]

Super late reply, I guess its your GPU. My spec are: i5 4430, GTX 1060, 24 Ram. I run Doom Eternal fine

[sand tinsel]

Doom is like mega no
omega omtimized

[fringe widget]

just bought doom 2016

[soft bronze]

Ever played it?

[dusty herald]

Honestly, I prefer the tone and atmosphere of 2016 more that eternal

And I think the default praetor in 2016 looks cooler than in eternal

[soft bronze]

Agreed

I also prefer the glory kills in this game as well. So much more depth IMO

[solemn gyro]

I completed this game for the first time like 3 days ago, it was on Ultra-Violence should I try it on Ultra-Nightmare? 😳

[soft bronze]

I spent a whole 2 days doing nightmare, i wish you luck with ultra nightmare haha

[pastel hemlock]

hi guys

what

[solemn gyro]

So far I prefer Doom 2016 rather than Eternal just because its making me re-install Doom Eternal for whatever reason -_-

[pastel hemlock]

as i was saying i n mission 11 i need to use the bfg for a mission

but i ghave no bfg ammo do you remember if there is one in there?

[soft bronze]

Which part are you up to!

?*

[pastel hemlock]

i'm in the beginning, i just got the yellow key

[soft bronze]

I never needed the BFG at the start so I can’t help you there

[wispy verge]

Theres a big difficulty difference between UV and UN

do nightmare first