#doom-2016
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Imp hit scans you for 35 damage
You proceed to do 6 glory kills, each one barely giving 5 hp. You now get 30 hp back
Imp proceeds to hitscan you for another 35
And that’s assuming only 1 imp hits you
oh the glory kill system is horrible, yes
And don’t get me started on how scarce armor is
Eternal's damage system is quite bad too in that the game loves to create some "drama" by scaling damage like an idiot but 2016 does that same shit for glory kills and a lot more agressively. Game just wants to keep you at 100 hp
And when you do find it you get almost none because “nightmare = less from armor and health pickups”
So 2016 forces you to waste pretty much all 3 slots on armor and health
yeah, armor is weird with those values
At least in eternal almost anything you do gives health and armor back
So while you constantly take Damage, you heal it just as quickly
Meanwhile good luck healing anything in 2016
honestly I hope that sometime in the next gen a remaster that rebalances stuff will happen
chainsaw should give you armor
and yeah in Eternal even if you get into a bad spot a glory kill can save you if you're smart
glory kill the big guy, blow some flames on him too and if you were very low you get like 150 hp and 30 armor
So I should say for 2016 nightmare a UN was thrown out there more as a joke than a viable game mode to enjoy and challenge. Although I really enjoy nightmare a few tweaks would really make it fantastic especially since 2016 difficulty is just stupidly easy on lower difficulties
Yes but I was refering to only nightmare difficulty
Heals and armor pick ups grant basically nothing in return
And there are almost no armor pick ups
It really expects you to just not get hit
Which isn’t too good when imps have aimbot
If imps didn’t have the insane aim, it would have been better balanced
Yeah and you're tripping balls about doing a glory kill or not the whole time. Still it's my favorite difficulty. It just needs some work for sure
Yeah my only issue is nightmare has unbalanced mechanics
But UV is too easy
Yeah I just cant enjoy it on uv so I'm stuck
yeah, that's the problem really, whenever I replay 2016 I always want to play on UV just so that it would be a bit less annoying but then I just go with nightmare because UV is a snoozefest
Truth
also: the machine gun crosshair's opacity...
You like using the heavy rounds to troll too?? Thought I was the only one lol
to troll?
Like rocket peg a baron and then quick swap to HAR round and head shot it for the kill
oh nope, I don't really use the scope, especially not since Eternal made micro missiles kind of unviable, in 2016 I need my comfort micro missiles 😄
2016 has so many mechanics to cheese with that you can sort of pick your poison 😄
I'm trying to make a compilation and its hilarious. I'll upload it when it's done
Micro missiles makes sense heavy rounds is for the laughs hahaha
to me the craziest thing always was how you can just nullify ambushes with the siege mode
you see the red spawn signs? okay, let's switch to siege mode so it's charged by the time they spawn in
heavy dude's coming and I have a corner near me? okay let's jump there and start setting up siege mode while in mid air
weapon's basically broken
it's just so weird that they thought siege mode behavior and damage was fine, like even a baron is done if you hit him with it, sure you have to do some additional damage for the kill but he's done after all that damage
Once seige mode allows you to be mobile you basically have this insane more versatile bfg
and you don't even need that since you can just start charging it mid air and that always gives you a bit of mobility
That's hot hahah
Why the dark lord look's like the Slayer? Did I miss some codec's?
nah they haven't explained why yet
upgraded SSG is SOOOOO GOOOODDDD

Hey
Guys I need someone to play doom online with
Who ever wants to dm me
I don’t even know why it’s dead, its so satisfying
lmfao asking the real questions here
Basically all I use anymore except for a certain encounters, lol
I remember struggling whenever I would face more than one pinky before I got it fully upgraded with the mastery
I literally shouted "MY BOOMSTICK!" when I realised what I'd picked up
But now it's just like, nah, I'm good
I'm going 100% on my playthrough, upgrading stuff at the start of each level
SSG and Gauss Cannon are basically all I use at endgame
when I picked up SSG, I had 11 weapon upgrade points
Once I finish this UV run I'm gonna go back and do a 100% run on Nightmare
so it got upgraded as soon as the level ended
Oh damn! Lol
oof nightmare
The mastery is what really puts it over the top though
but yeah, this my first playthrough
Oh nice!
Hm I'm working towards that
I'm actually about to finish my first playground as well
neat!
What platform you playing on?
PC
I started on UV, got wrecked and stepped down to HMP, and I'm considering going back to UV now
ah lmao yeah, I remember playing one level on a friend's playstation
was tough
The only real issue I'm having is aiming. I struggle so much trying to precision aim while standing still (for one or two weapons)
I usually rely on strafing to line up my shots
Aiming is crucial though, soooo
Luckily I'm fine enough with how it is, but it's just if I use a scope or one or two specific weapon mods, it's tough
How are in are you?
Oh nice
Got it just 2 days ago, as a Christmas gift 😅
merry Christmas indeed, because another person decided to buy me Eternal Deluxe edition as a Christmas present too
Oh damn!
so yeah >:D
That's awesome
I think I'll wait a while to get eternal
I really want to try and do everything I can in this one before I move on
I might wait on Eternal until the second DLC drops
Gonna "attempt" an ultra nightmare run eventually, but I feel that it's going to be absolutely brutal, especially being on console with a controller
well, good luck on that
Thanks!
My gaming backlog is so huge that it won't be difficult to put Eternal off at all
Haha, that's how I am too
I have 73 games in my backlog 👀
including but not limited to - Metro series, Arkham Trilogy, Alan Wake duology, GTA V
All very good choices
:D
I know I'll need to play through my list before too long, cause once the new Zelda game drops (whenever that is 🙄), I'm not gonna play anything else
I have time
I get to buy myself games only once a year, and that's with a small budget. Plus, gifts are rare
at best I get to spend what, 12$ on video games per year
I'm in a different country, so regional pricing comes into play, but yeah
Who agrees with me that the preator suit in this game looks way better then Eternals suit is!
I like both, but I prefer the 2016 one, yeah
I like the 2016 design but never loved it honestly, to me it feels a bit like this weird transition between Doom and Halo
the design in Eternal is much more in line with a modern Doom marine suit to me
but still in Eternal I "main" the classic suit because that's how Doomguy looks like to me ever since I've seen the cover for the original game 😄
now all I need is a Doom 3 suit for absolute happiness
I sry doom guy but doom eternal predator looks cooler but the one in this game looks cool
It's a great suit but eternal is better. They made a good choice
do people still play multiplayer?
hell yeah
The eternal suit gives me vibes of like... doomguy took this suit he was given and really made it his own with his own mods and stuff
decided to scrap my save
I was on my first playthrough, but I scrapped it
and started over on UV, HMP was getting too easy
i just switched back to doom 2016 after playing doom eternal and im not used to not having the meat hook, dash, and double jump even though double jump is in the 2016 version
Yeah just play doom 2016 as it's own game and you'll be fine. It's not eternal
When I play Doom 2016, I can get anywhere from like 6 FPS to like 30 FPS and it's hilarious
I've been surprised at how consistent the FPS is on Switch
Probably the only issue it has are bottlenecks at like 3 key points in the game
Aside from that I agree, very solid port
this is why I'm saving up some money to get my own PC with decent parts, not that my laptop isn't good.
any idea if 2016 is coming to the bethesda launcher?
I've never had any bottleneck in my 10 hours
Oh you have
If you are on switch you 1000% have experienced bottlenecking
Level 1
Argent tower
And Lazarus labs 10000000% have bottlenecking
Well obviously
However I was talking to the other guy who was talking about the switch version
Yes 
My stubbornness with ammo is going to be the end of me
Indeed!
Vacuum, blood fueled and whatever the name of that one rune that gives armor after glory kills is
nice
Ooh mines ((I don’t know the names)) increased air control, longer glory kill states, and the last one I change from speed boost on glory kill and faster glory kills
I usually have it on the speed boost because I use glory kills and chainsaw animations to scratch my nose lol
the one that gives armor after glory kills is called armoured offensive btw
Other runes I just find quite useless if I’m honest but just my opinion
Rich get richer, armored offensive and air control are my favorite runes
Air control is a must have imo
ofc
Anyone wants to play online??
I would've loved that armored offensive stayed in Eternal
Indeed
Indeed!
That rune was really op
True
Rich get richer only exists to cheese the game. Pretty broken
It wouldn't be so bad for ultra nightmare for example
rich get richer + armored offensive = win
Air control must have? Going to equip it then
I’ve only recently found out about upgrading weapons too... lol
Is it worth playing doom 2016 after doom eternal ?
I recently completed the game of nightmare on ps4 and I never played doom 2016
Should I buy it or not ?
Most people feel like it's a bit of downgrade when you play eternal first
Does doom 2016 feel like a different game or a downgraded version of eternal ?
different experience but overall inferior
It’s still worth checking out even if you’ve played Eternal before it. Much more of an atmospheric experience. Though I will say the first few levels are a bit of a drag. Picks up around level 5-6
Slower start
Ps plus is free this weekend, is anyone up for some deathmatch?
Shouldn't compare it to eternal since its basically it's own game completely. Would be like saying you cant play halo because you played 2016. Just play it as it's own game and enjoy it for what it is and you'll have an amazing time. Definitely one of the best shooters ever made
I might actually try it out
I highly recommend it
cough keep your distance from the multiplayer tho cough
My little sister just started playing the doom 2016 soundtrack on our family Alexa
That’s how you know she was raised right
What... that was the campaign? Felt a bit short
Depends on how you played through it. Playing on a harder difficulty and exploring for secrets pads its run time.
Hurt me plenty and I did explore for secrets after I learned how to play lol
I’ll be replaying it on harder difficulty and to complete achievements though
Hurt me plenty doesnt do the game justice I'd reccomend UV for first time players. I personally prefer nightmare
Well... I still nearly died lmao
I had the same question, the answer I got was YES, and I can say the same now I've played both
@halcyon bear I find nightmare in 2016 to be very unforgiving
Today, my frame rate was consistently higher than 6 FPS, unlike yesterday. I was getting around 20 to 30 sometimes 40 FPS while playing
UV is the sweet spot tho, I can agree on that
and then I accidentally pressed the sleep button on my computer and then it went back to 6 FPS
Uv is the sweet spot for every doom tbh
Yeah, challenging enough to not be a cakewalk, but not as annoying when you make a mistake
I do feel like 2016 has flaws that Doom Eternal corrects
But both games go for different things I would say
also the super shotgun is just too busted in this game, but who am I to judge
Dude, I love the super shotgun, I'm trying to get the 50 multikills challenge. I just finished level 5 with about 11 or 12
Gonna be honest between 2016 and eternal I like 2016 more
I'm loving 2016 so far, I can't wait to get to Eternal though
Both are good games, but have a distinctly different feel
2016 is definitely a nice change of pace, considering I came here after playing all the main HL games except for Alyx
2016 feels more like putting you in the world of Doom 3 while being an utterly mad badass who makes monsters considered to be terryfing to be... well, terrified.
Eternal is more like putting that same madman in a more detailed version of the world of the first 2 DOOM games while every other character feels like they were auditioning for a dark souls game because of all the lore
Mind you, I like Eternal more tho, if only because I found the story to be just serious enough for me to get invested while also not afraid to be silly and campy
I prefer eternal because it’s nightmare difficulty is actually balanced
But I like doom 2016 for its darker atmosphere and darker feel, even if nightmare isn’t balanced
Yeah, I felt that too cuz I was halfway through a nightmare playthrough in 2016
And when I started said mode in eternal game was incredibly easier the moment you started getting a few upgrades
I think it's because you have so many tools to keep enemies at bay now and get resources back that you feel you are always going balls to the walls
The problem I had with 2016 was the fact the overall design and style felt a bit "bland", probably because of the color palette
2016 has the best Hell maps though exactly because it has some leftover environmental design ideas from Doom 3
well that and the fact that there they actually tried to emulate the feel of old school Doom level design so you get more of that abstracty weird feeling from Hell
After playing the game 200 plus hours it just isnt enjoyable for me on anything lower
2016's Hell does feel like a place where a lone space marine can enter and end in a parallel dimension million years in the past, Eternal not so much
Yeah I like 2016 hell but It doesn’t hold a candle to doom 3s hell
Doom 3's Hell is cool but it's just one map and it's mostly visuals
it's still just a linear corridor
2016 on the other hand does try to confuse you and misdirect a bit
not enought though compared to the classic stuff
Lost missions has a nice little arena fight but they could have added a higher demon count in my opinion
Doom 3 hell
Roe hell
Lost mission hell
Is what I refer to when referencing doom 3 hell
River styx is a fantastic look
if I count mods and stuff too then I think SIGIL has my favourite Hell overall: dark, atmospheric, abstract, unforgiving (and there's Buckethead music :D)
Yeah sigil has a solid hell vibe
Just beat the campaign for the first time. Awesome game. Gonna give Nightmare a try now.
The most fun mode in my opinion
UV got pretty brutal at times, but I definitely feel like I can handle taking it up a notch
If you have your movement and swapping down you'll be fine. Taking damage really punishes so you should just not get hit 
so you should just not get hit
Sounds about right, lol
Think I'll need to be a bit more strategic in some of my weapon mod and rune choices too though
I still like doom 2016 and intend on beating it on nightmare even after eternal
I'll probably wait a while before getting Eternal. Wanna work my way up to UN at some point
I replayed 2016. Man it’s such an unbalanced fun game. One hundred percenting it is way harder than Eternal
Can someone please guide me through how the hell am i meant to beat the cluster fuck of demons on vega control processing
Im on xbox
Even after finishing doom eternal its hard
Shoot them until they die
That level gives you a shit load of powerups and bfg ammo
I know but there sso fucking many
Biggest thing for me was being strategic with the BFG and chainsaw.
The furthest i got was right now with the mancubus
I keep forgetting what bfg ammo looks like
Was stuck on that level for a while. You really just gotta brute force your way through it
What difficulty?
Hurt me plenty
Where are you stuck?
Dealing with the billions of demons
Like literal billions of them
Should i just dm u the place
Have you gotten to where you destroy the cooling units yet?
Oh yeah, that's where I struggled for a while
:|
Where you have the two Barons of Hell, right?
Yes
What I did was use the Gauss Cannon with siege mode to take out the two Cacodemons while the train was still taking you into the room
Yeah i do that a lot
Then there is a platform on the left that I would get on and wait for the Barons to come and kill them there
But the fucking pinkys i hate them
Ive played this part 10 times i know all the things people usually do on there
Yeah the pinkys are rough and going to the ground level doesn't leave a lot of room to maneuver
All I can say is try and get it to wear you can take out the two Barons and at least one or two Mancubus while you're still on that platform to the left when you first come in
Cyber you're in the train arena correct?
And then try and let most of the remaining enemies spawn and use BFG to get as many of the remaining Mancu, pinkys and Cacodemons as you can
i legit cant move what the fuck man
That really is the toughest part of the level imo
Summoner might spawn also so watch the downstairs
Yeah i go for the summoner with the chainsaw
Or maybe I just didn't notice
Also try and save the chainsaw for when you're low on ammo
Dude I've beat eternal
You probably just killed it fast, I know one spawns there
Yep
Alongside about 2 cybermancs and a crap ton of pinkies
I swear the Lost Souls are what would kill me more than anything
I cant quick switch and i hate it
Your weapons?
Yes
Console?
Is there not a button for it on Xbox?
Xbox
You can quickswitch, just tap the weapon wheel button
Or just use the weapon wheel really fast
Was about to say, that's what it is on Switch
I mean as in switching without the weapon wheel
Grenades are pretty useful in this fight too, since you get so many enemies that group together so closely
Tap it
Or use the holo thing to distract enemies when there is a big group
Then you can straf around and get some good hits in with Gauss or Rocket Launcher
Ohhhh right almost forgot about the siphon grenades.
Forget frags, this'll keep you alive
I forget about the siphon grenades all the time, but yeah
Stronger equipment rune also
SO MANY
But yeah, try not to let it get you too frustrated @nimble wagon, this was one of the hardest fights I had, definitely the hardest of this level
after this does it get harder?
Oh yeah, what runes do you have active?
Uhhh
Before taking the exit search around the elevator, there are secrets
Not really imo
Awww man..
Well, it's just different
The next levels fights are definitely hard, but for different reasons
The problem with this fight is the room layout
I never really did rune stuff
The last level is Basically just eternal's arenas
So i only have vacuum 2 active
Get all 3 equipped
Oh should replace it with dazed and confused?
@fiery yoke no as in the slots are closed
Don't replace, use a slot
I only have 1
Oh
Yeah i never really liked doing runes
Some are easy
Yeah, definitely recommend going back and trying to do the rune challenges
You can get really good powerups with them
Armor from glory kills
Speed boost on glory kills
Better air control after double jump
Pretty much any rune in eternal is from 2016
Think those are the three that I use
@nimble wagon do you have the Super Shotgun mastery yet?
It definitely makes things significantly easier if you can get it
Super shotgun, but 2x more ammo
NICE!
Search around the elevator for secrets @nimble wagon
Did you already complete the level?
Yes.
Ammo crate nearby
There's an area down there
Do i call the elevator down there?
No, just secrets
Ok
You can just jump down
Elevator moves automatically
Will the next part be VERY hard?
Well samuel said it'll be a proper fight so
The next level yeah
Oh, you mean the next part of the level?
Yep
Then yeah, you're good for now
Whats the next part that'll be as annoying as the vega processing part i just did?
Well the next level does have some tough fights, but they're honestly just different
Much more open in the arenas
As in...?
Very open.
Many resources.
How hard will it be in terms of how many demons
Whereas this fight was much tougher in where you could go
Lots of demons, but mostly lower level demons
Im in the well now
First combat arena is numbingly easy, berserk orb
True
Some secrets in the next area
Also, my only other advice for this level is to try and save your BFG ammo for the final fight
Yep
If i were to be a reviewer of doom 2016 I'd give it a "i fucking hate pinkies/10"
Lol
They def gave me a lot of trouble at first but I found that they weren't too bad by the end. Just gotta not waste your ammo shooting them head on and wait until you can hit them in the back
But they're still tough when you've got more than 2 of them a time
Especially when you're dealing with Spectres (or whatever the invisible ones are called)
Thats what they're called yes
DAMN PINKY
Lol



Spectres have no frontal armor
So they're easier to kill?
It's weird how eternal was is factually harder than 2016 but i found it kind of easier all together than 2016
Oh dang I never knew that
Most don't, spine still takes extra damage but a point blank frontal SSG blast will kill it
I'll def keep that in mind for when I start my Nightmare run
That explains why the super shotgun made then mincemeat.
Tbf SSG makes most things mincemeat
Fully upgraded it just cheeses the game
What was it that they dropped on Doomguy after he was trapped in the sarcophagus?
that's one thing i feel doom eternal corrects pretty well: every weapon has a purpose in the game and you don't really feel any of them are useless, whereas in doom 2016 the super shotgun is just a jack of all trades and the starting weapons are rendered completely obsolete the moment you get chaingun and gauss cannon
I dont think ill ever go back to 2016, theres no reason in my mind to go back to it other than relive some great moments
Why is that
Eternal is just simply better at everything except maybe atmosphere and multiplayer for me
Well that’s true and hopefully the new updates in 2021 will get better multiplayer
all i want is a zombies horde mode type of deal, i know every doom fan has beaten this to death but battlemode just aint it
U right needs to be more modes and the ones that are in the other games
And should have minigames
I think the temple, right?
Yeah I thought that as well, but was unsure if it was a titan
Remember Lost Souls?
I try not too, lol
Their screams pierce my weak little ears
Waahhehha
They’re sort of smaller in Eternal than in 2016
Def get some anxiety when I hear that scream but don't know where it's coming from
They’re not that scary anymore in Eternal because of how small and niche they are now. In 2016, it was one thing we all feared
2016 multiplayer?
I know it's memed to death but 2016's multiplayer was genuinely good
The one thing I fear in 2016 is the fucking barons
Yeah they're great
Nah, they do their job.
Fun to kill too
There not nearly as scary tho
Nothing is scary in eternal
Except spirits and blood maykrs
16 is really a horror game especially with snap map
Yeah, had some great times with snap map.
I’m on it right now
Got as intense as eternal sometimes
Yeah
Big slaughter maps with a nice flow between arenas are my favorites
Some people like story.
Some people like innovative.
I like combat
Its really hard to point out flaws in 2016 sometimes
It is a slow game when you compare but when 16 came out that was fast pasted glory
Some story based stuff in snap map is incredibly well done
Using demon animations and timing them with teleports?
Chefs kiss
I love going on arcade mode to try and Beat my friends records
I gotta go back and top off my Achievements for 2016
Same
How did doomguy put his suit on so fast?
Just beat it on ultra violent for the first time and now im onto Nightmare
This comes to mind often when I play Doom https://youtu.be/iQwwPzuirqk
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I usually make snapmaps with 6 Barons of Hell, if i didn’t have that, it’s not a snapmap level
he was rushing because he had a date with the spider mastermind but then he was late so the spider mastermind tried to kill doomguy
is multiplayer dead completely?
I think so
damn
It really was a fucking blast
I struggle to find a match myself
i only want to get a few levels for the loadouts
You mean doom 2016 ?
He means the multiplayer
Was pretty fun when it was active
Is there not an achievement for completing Ultra Nightmare?
Milestone, yes. Achievement? No
Although it's probably different per platform
I just thought since there's one for completing the first mission they'd make one for the whole thing
I kinda gave up when I died half way through the second mission and realised they meant you start the WHOLE way back. I thought it was just to the start of each mission.
Can the "kill 8 demons with a single shot" challenge be done with the bfg?
I am here my bretheran
Hey guys. Let me just “duck” real quick in Doom 2016 
WOW, Hell in DOOM 2016 looks AMAZING
I just finished Kadingir Sanctum
I love the amount of thought put into the reasons why all of the demons are the way they are and the backstories of Olivia Pierce and Samuel Hayden is incredible
Seeing titans realm always gets me hyped
The Arcade mode is actually really fun. It’s more fast paced than the campaign
ah ok
A Reboot can't really be a sequel 
Except it can
It’s a new story
New Arc*
It's a new story
Same universe
Same background
So no Reboot :skull_green:
A Reboot will change a lot of thing
But actually nothing change since 64 and before
Haha got you 
Flat is kinda right actually
Doom 2016 falls into the same boat as God of War (4). They’re part of the same universe/timeline, but with a new story to follow along with reimagined gameplay.
Whatever this isn’t a hill I choose to die on
yeah but still no a Reboot but okay fine
Doom 2016 is doom 2016
There is a term for these: Soft Reboot
Doom.
Question of anyone knows. If you get killed in a rune trial on an Ultra Nightmare campaign, does that count as dying during the campaign?
Nope
Awesome. I figured that was the case but wanted to make sure
HAHAH Roblox
So is 2016 mp still alive?
Is the corpse in the alleyway next to 7/11 still alive?
Anyone still play snap maps I'd love to try some co-op ones 🤔
Anybody ever tried a Samual Haydenn impressions?
Everytime I shower
I probably sound like shit but his quotes are so much damn fun
“That is a Weapon, not a Teleporter...”
you can find matches
i wish they had made a normal multiplayer for eternal too
doom literally started deathmatch eternal should have it too
which game mode is most popular in mp
The team play mode, it has all the team based game modes, I found a game in about the ranges of 30 seconds to 3 minutes max
Playing with friends shortens this sometimes
damn thats alot faster than i thought
Yeah but it can randomly disconnect you, and sometimes it takes like 10 minutes, if it takes anymore than 5 minutes just reque and that should fix it
alright i'll try
hi
does anyone play multiplayer on doom 2016 on the switch
I have it on Switch, but haven't done multiplayer yet. Plan to get into it soon though
FC is SW-4938-5496-4385 if you want to add me
“You can’t just shoot a hole into the surface of Mars”
dOeS aNyOnE pLaY 2016 mULtIPlaYeR aNyMoRe
I meant like a voice impression god
there's a guy on twitter who's really good at voice impressions, samuel and vega included
I REceNtlY trIED it AnD tHE anSwer WIll disAppOInt U sinCE itS BetTER ThAN etERNals MP
What’s doom 2016 multiplayer
good stuff kinda
Nice hope you had a good time. I enjoyed it actually
i couldnt i saw only 3 ppl playing snapmap was pog tho
Yeah some snapmaps were pure gold
Ditto, i wanted to try that and kinda hoped it'd be a later optional download or a separate thing to download on its own... From what i gather it's a simplified map maker like Mario Maker or something
it sounds simplified but people make ludicrously complex scripted things with it
Shame us Switch players missed out... I might be in the minority wishing multiplayer was removed in favor for snapmap
If I was on switch I would feel the same
It wasn’t a storage issue
Removing multiplayer wouldn’t have allowed snapmap
You can’t regulate snapmap
There is no way to optimize and port a creation tool to vastly inferior hardware
That's fair
i have to make such a hard decision
wether to buy doom eternal or gta v cause i want gta v to play with my friends but i also enjoy doom
Friends are temporary... doom is eternal
Xd
anybody else notice that the plot to Doom (2016) is essentially the same as Half-Life?
except instead of aliens, you have demons
I think you mean the plot of half life is essentially doom
it's there, but what i'm saying it wasn't the same
-company opens portal to bad place
-employee of company kill enemy from bad place
-bad things come to earth, killed
-go to the bad place and kill the mastermind at the end
^
that goes for ultimate doom too
Basically
except it wasn't stated that UAC experimentation caused the demonic invasion in DOOM 1
it was just an invasion
No it was a teleportation experiment
i thought it was opening a portal between mars' moons
hmmmmm
the UAC were not thinking with portals
well if that is the case, then Half-Life was inspired by DOOM
but DOOM (2016)'s plot is a lot closer to Half-Life
or not, the plots pretty generic
Most of the great fps games took something from the original doom
yeah i guess
Doom 2016 is a exact sequel to the classic games and they just elaborated and added some things from the orginal story
Like argent energy and all that
I don't think it's an exact sequel tbh
maybe the protagonist is the same, but it takes place in another dimension
or there's some sort of weird time travel going on there
annoying this about doom lore is, reading the codec mid level makes me forget what im doing, and i dont want to do it in between bc i want to go play doom
so i have no clue whats going on half the time
It actually is. Doom1 doom 2 ( final doom) doom 64 doom 2016 doom eternal. That's the order and the story is the same and the character is the same
well the main argument I have for my point is that the Doom takes place in an alternate (from our timeline) 2022
The BFG 9k was a prototype
Hell is in a dimension away from space and time so things are distorted there. So after 64 when you stay in hell alot of things are possible
or real 2022, seeing how well this decade started
i mean we don't really have portal technology 😕
Hugo said no multiverse
It’s the same earth
yeah, but if that is the case then it makes no sense
The BFG 9k was a prototype in the year 2022. Now, in the 2100's, it is still a prototype and has the same version number
its like the dolphin emulator if youve used that
Old doom BFG used tracers
While new prototype uses tendrils
theyve been on 5.0 for 4 years
if it's a new prototype, why is it still the BFG 9000?
why not the BFG 9500 or something
Cuz BFG 9500 sounds stupid
a hell of a lot of beta revisions
And it appeals more to the audience to keep it as 9000
that is true, but doesn't make sense from a story context
maybe that's why the UAC is failing all the time. they don't keep track of their version numbers to make revisions lmao
facepalm I was specifically talking about the plot.
NOT the gameplay.
Obviously, Source was a modified Quake engine, so the gameplay was definitely inspired by DOOM and Quake.
And I was also talking specifically about DOOM (2016) and Half-Life, not DOOM 1.
But Doom 2016's plot isn't even remotely similar to Half-Life's.
are there still people playing online doom 2016?
hi
i recently got doom 2016 on my pc and its so laggy
does this mean i have to upgrade my comp or something
It means your comp has demonic corruption of at least 90 percent
great
my comp's processor is an intel core i-5 so yeah that probably can't handle doom 2016
so i just recently started playing doom and was working through easy when my friend told me i should be doing ultra violence. ive died once and i havent even finished the first heart core
The game gets easier as you go. You get stronger, and you’ll get better.
i know
i did like the first 3 levels on im too young to die"
but im switching to ultra violence and im dead
UV is the best difficulty to play on for your first run. Unless you’re very new to shooters. If you are then I’d recommend Hurt me Plenty.
im both new to shooters and not new to shooters lol
Ah. Is this your first Doom game? If so then yeah Hurt me Plenty sounds like the right difficulty
my "first" doom game was the classic one (the ultimate doom)
im so glad i didnt do nightmare
Well, tbf 2016 plays much differently. I’d keep trying with Ultra Violence then. If it’s too frustrating then bump it down to Hurt me Plenty. Play at what suits you best.
ill keep going with ultra violence even though im bad
and its not about frustration for me. im kind of tired of taking the "easy" way out
if you aren't comfortable with high difficulties go slow and steady, there's no need to rush
UV is very satisfying imo. Perfect level of difficulty.
It's a little to easy for veteran players
it's the normal difficulty imo, the way it's meant to be played
It gets stale after 200 plus hours or so but yeah you should definitely start off UV. That's the base experience
Yeah, I guess I should specify that it's great as the first run through of the game. Definitely gotta crank it up after though
100 percent agree that UV is the mode everyone should experience 2016 on though
not just 2016, all doom games
The old Doom 2016 just got a new mod that can allow for ultra low graphics and dynamic resolution for low end PCs like intel hd 520, intel uhd 620 or intel hd graphics 620. This can allow near 30 FPS gameplay on some really ridiculous setups!
#Doom2016 #IntelHD #LowSpec
The mod: https://community.pcgamingwiki.com/files/file/1817-doomlegacym...
this worked for me and i cant rly run doom 2016
i gwt like 60 fps
with every low
looks like a map screen model in eternal
like of those giants
I’m not comfortable because I never played them lol
Besides. What better way to learn to get good than with doom?
Also, why is everyone saying they should upgrade their cpu to play this game? I’m just curious since theirs are newer than mine
personally id say this game is super well optimized, especially next to most pc ports
my few years old mid range pc can play it fine
Their cpu is better than mine
whats your cpu
And there are people with i5 saying they need to upgrade
i dont really keep up with pc parts, i just buy whats new ish when my pc becomes bad
Understandable
I finally won’t have to upgrade my pc for a long time tbh
Except for maybe the monitor l
i mean same maybe? i dont really play modern games all that much
once i tried to play warzone bc friends got it and it was a crashing mess
F
ig it wasnt a good port?
I don’t really play modern games either. I will occasionally grab some that are interesting cause I like them
But overall my pc was bad and all I needed was a gpu upgrade
Anyway, there’s nothing wrong with upgrading the cpu, but I was just curious why they went to cpu and not say the gpu
is anyone having a problem with the game crashing?
it runs good at high setting but i keep on getting a bluescreen for memory management
On PC?
Think it's time to start up a run on Nightmare for the first time
Dou it
I tried a Nightmare run and i couldnt be bothered so i went back and did it on ultra violence lol
To each their own my dude. Personally nightmare is the way to go for me
Nightmare in 2016 is a mixed bag
If I'm just playing generally, yes I want the extra damage
But there's a lot of kinks to it that are super lame
Specifically the health system, and extra accuracy
This becomes a LOT more clear, and much more frustrating during Ultra Nightmare
Imp Fireball does 70 and glory killing gives max 20, usually 5
Late game it's much easier but this is 2016, that's the rule of the show
Well after 200 hours or so UV is laughably easy and just not interesting for me. Once you have your swapping , movement and map knowledge down it's pretty easy to destory hordes without taking damage. Also adds that bit of challenge. So that's why I prefer nightmare now
Hmu if you wanna play custom levels co op
Don't know how I went through my entire first playthrough without finding a single classic map, lol
What exactly happens in the doom 2016 multiplayer?

I’ve never played it so idk what goes on
One of the best arena shooters
Thanks
I’m doing a pistol only run :3
Well..a pistol and maybe add in an unmodded combat shotgun. I’m not a complete masochist after all
Pistol is probably stronger than the unmodded combat
Wait this is doom 2016
Fuck
The pistol was essentially not even a water gun, it was a droplet gun
Just a random question, did Doom 2016 support OpenGL 4.3 a few years ago?
What difficulty?
why does doom 2016 crash on me when using the vulkan renderer and reaching cutscenes or waiting for a certain amount of time?
Have you tried turning it off and on again?
i tried closing doom 2016, restarting my pc and jumping between the renderers
but the vulkan renderer still crashes on me
how could i fix it?
I’m too young to die cause, again, I’m not a masochist
Besides it was hard ENOUGH to fight the final boss with all the guns on hurt me plenty, I don’t wanna do that with only a pistol and unmodded shotgun
That's what I assumed. Couldn't imagine getting to do a pistol run on anything else
Lol
I’m gonna be honest, when I started ultra violence, my brain wanted to just do pistol only. That idea got shut down right as I died
I just bought both doom 2016 and doom eternal is there any advice someone can give me going into the games?
uh
->
in doom 2016 just use the op weapons only like supershotgun and gauss cannon spam to make ti ez and also keep strafe moving like w+d or w+a
never stop moving
in eternal just read every tutorial and listen to what the game says but do it better and f as t e r to go gamer pro
Nice
Wait, so to find the super shotgun, I’m guessing it just appears when playing?
the game basically tells him that so i didnt really say just keep moving cuz when i tell ppl that they always go w only but they dont dodge shit with that
What about in the ancient gods dlc?
its really really hard
:v
i recommend beating doom on UV if u want to beat ancient gods
Not as hard as I was when I bought it
Just get into the fun zone 
i that i beat doom eternal campaign on nightmare had trouble with ancient gods im too young to die
not anymore but yeah its a real real step up of difficulty
I’m guessing I can find these weapons while playing the campaign?
yeah man
u dont unlock them or some shit this isnt cod or fortnite
you just play the game and you find them
Cool
some weapons like the plasma rifle and gauss cannon can be gotten earllier as a secret in a level
another tip @gaunt matrix ☝️ if u search for secrets you will be rewarded.. alot
The secrets are pain lmao
yea but the weapon ones actually werent hard to find
The map makes it hard tbh
its b ig and confusing sometimes but thats how it should be
It’s not the size
it cant just be an open hole and say here its a secret!!! ⏫
It’s just hard to navigate the map in 3d
yeah
Plus I found a secret but I couldn’t figure out a way to open it
a classic doom level secret?
Probably lol. I was looking at the map and there was clearly a path (found a map downloader that showed the entire map) but I just couldn’t figure out how to open it
Yeah, that's a classic map
cuz in order to get those you have to find a switch before u do or else it just aint open
There's a lever hidden in each level that will open the path
I’ll probably figure it out on my like 10th playthrough
And I’m not even trying to find levers. There’s already too much going on
pfft who doesnt
but i dont use it while i play normaly cuz thats for pusi e s
Plus I’m also busy appreciating this game
I mean. I’ll be doing that in the future lol. It’s hard to do 100%
its impossible to do 100%
if u dont want to spend 50+ hours playing a 5 hr long game
without a walkthrough? Depends on the game
You underestimate my patience lmao. I spent like 6 weeks only playing portal 1 every day for like 2-5 hours
Not for 100% but just to play it
im sorry what
how does that even happen not calling u bad at portal 1 gaming
but how? did u like sniff every wall look at the walls have fun with portals then do the test chamber 10x times slower than the world record for slowness is?
Speedrunning
i can legit beat portal 1 in prob less than a hour
Game itself takes like 2 hours to do casually
with enough bhop and glitches
Again. 2-5 hours a day just speedrunning the game and practicing
oooh
shit u got all the radios?
Yea
Admittedly it only took 2 and a half hours
The 30 minutes was just me doing a normal playthrough/speedrun
Finding the radios and putting them where they needed to go were fairly easy, with the exception of like 3 of them
damn
when will this be available on series x?
wat available
doom 2016
well if its a 2016 game prob not soon jacket from hotline miami
oh gosh darnit, im gonna go kill soke russians now
go as americans we have to stay the best ones by being the only ones
Y E S
except that im not an american and im proud im not
Its available now. Series x is backwards compatible
love when stuff like this happens in games https://twitter.com/ThatHomestar/status/1341983107713540096
100% run definetly doesnt take 50 hours
And game is also longer then 5 hours just playing without secrrt hunting
MobaMouseToday at 4:59 AM
100% run definetly doesnt take 50 hours
And game is also longer then 5 hours just playing without secrrt hunting
Dude cmon its clearly a joke
is that for digital or just disc copy
Both
From what I can find, doom 2016 should work. Would it hurt to put the disc in and test?
Yea
No worries. RIP and tear
so im doing some doom and im seeing a collectable that i am not sure how anybody finds it
an edit. it found it lol
Yeah
Just did the first level of the campaign on ultra violence. It’s really not as bad as I thought it would be. I have learned to never use the pistol though, or I die
Fax lol pistol weak af
I mean, I have died like 3 times. And all 3 times were because I got cocky and was like “I can use a pistol”
Doom 2016 was an amazing game that payed tribute to the original so well while making it seem new :) the soundtrack is amazing also!
Doom music, no matter the game always slaps
@tranquil bolt The pistol is mostly an emergency weapon, something to get you out of certain fights in a pinch while not being strong enough to kill most enemies. Once fully upgraded it becomes more dependable tho
I definitely find some very niche usage for the pistol, but definitely not as a main weapon, that's for sure
I gifted my friend the gift of rip and tearing
But his wifi sucks
So he's gonna have to wait awhile. Steam says 4 days
Longest 4 days of his life
Lmao
He also got doom eternal switch
His pc kinda sucks
But that also needs to download
R08486
Reminds me of my college days with shitty dorm wifi
uh. i had like 63 health and i just suddenly died
Nice
Merry Christmas to me
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EqGyi2bVgAIM_xF?format=jpg&name=large
Noice
Had to pay for an imported copy of Doom because they just don't make them anymore I guess? Luckily it was at a local store, but it was $10 more ($89.99 instead of $79.99)
Thank you Nintendo for making the Switch region-free
I almost bought doom for the switch like a year ago cause it was in clearance with no price tag. It ended up being full price so I just said not today
British doom, i can say from experience that all guns are removed, but he does have the blade from eternal
Switch doom cover is the best one
Normal 2016 cover is shit just bc slayer is standing still
I do like the collectors edition art though with the rev
It's reversible on all other platforms to the same cover as the Switch one.
Do you mean it has a double cover?
Because I know that. They should have just gone with that cover though because it's amazing
Howdy
Whoever was in charge of that marketing decision...
hello?
i still didn't get a reply to my question from 2 days ago
it has to do with doom 2016 crashing on me after playing for some time, where it also very likely crashes when cutscenes start
it only happens with the vulkan rendering API (at least i think so)
opengl seems to be alright, but the performance difference is something i don't want to accept with my already weak 1050 ti on high settings
i completely wiped my graphics drivers and reinstalled them, but that was met with no success
is there any way i could prevent it from crashing and sometimes even stuttering?
im living that same problem either,still got no answer
seems like zenimax and id will need to look into this then
it crashed on me again, just that i was in arena mode and played the last level on HMP
after falling into a pit and dying, i tried reloading to my checkpoint but now its just the loading circle there with no numbers nor movement, whatsoever
it can't be my own pc since eternal runs on a very similar engine and the API is the same
i also removed all startup commands (the only one i used was the intro skip command)
any ideas?
?
do yall know of any good coop snapmaps
Are there any hidden minigames in 2016 like there is in Eternal?
i know there is super turbo turkey puncher and demon destruction
both are extremely stupid
the first one is u spam click to punch turkeys
second one is basically candy crush
but demons
@shut marsh
uh
The what
heard someone said turkey puncher sucked
We re here to chew ass and kick gum... and we re all out of ass
it is pretty pog tho
This is more of what I wanted to know. Can’t wait to stumble onto them :)
did you play doom 2016 yet or nah
I’m working through the campaign for the first time
Turbo Turkey puncher is a classic. Gain some class in your life
Had to restart to switch difficulty
what diffficulty u gonna play on
Ultra violence
good
also the classic maps are pretty well hidden usually
and arent shown on the mapp either
You need to find a hidden lever, for a secret door to open in order to unlock the classic level
basically
;-;
I’m already having a tough time finding the guards and collectibles, even with the map
I know lol
theres one in each level btw
I was doing I’m too young to die but my friend talked some sense (and guilt)
1 what?
1 classic map in each dooom 2016 map
Ohhh
i know ehre theyre at so if u can screenshare i can help you find em
Solid bro
I’ll probably do some screensharing tomorrow to talk to someone while I’m dying over and over
You should just dm them because they get a little pissed if you upload to much here
thats also what i meant
Lol
Nice
Overall I am enjoying this game. It’s just amazing and I can’t wait to buy eternal in the future
You can upload images and videos through links on here by the way
How you finding the difficulty?
Idk how to get images into links
It's fine
Overall ultra violence isn’t as bad as I thought. So far I’ve died like 20 times. But 3 of those were because I got cocky and tried to use the pistol. The other 17 deaths are because I keep getting some weird explosion that’s killing me
explosion?
Well it's your first playthrough thats understandable. Once you get the map layout and swapping/ movement down you ll be fine
shotguns explosive shot?
Not quite
I’m pretty sure what’s happening is either one of the fireball demons, or fireball machine gun demons are accidentally hitting an explosive barrel that I’m standing right by
The deaths are just almost unreal tbh
Just never stop moving. Best advice I can give you
Oh I am moving though
It’s a pretty unreal death that’s happening. I’ll see if I can get a video of it later
Yeah definitely record It. I'll take a look
hmm
It’s fine though. I’ll figure it out eventually
i would guess it's probably the imp (fireball demon)'s big fireball
He may be getting snipped yeah
or maybe its the posessed soldiers




