#doom-2016

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left wing
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Oh hellguards are a good boss battle, yeah

gray tapir
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the mastermind boss fight overall isn't enjoyable for me
but it's a good challenge

left wing
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nearly forgot about them

gray tapir
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hell guards were probably the best new demon added into 2016 IMO

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i never can get enough of that boss fight

halcyon bear
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I think the baalgar fight was a good time. Kinda predictable but still really enjoyed it

noble moat
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Agreed

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Wasnt a hard fight by any means

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But was cool

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Especially how at the start he has the audacity to throw you across the room

halcyon bear
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And then you do that super hero slide and you don't fall.... fuck yeah

noble moat
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Yep

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Not hard, but cool presentation

civic blaze
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does anyone here want to play some snapnap?

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not sure where to ask so i'll ask here

gray tapir
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i love the hell guards in every aspect

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design wise they ever so slightly lose out to the cyberdemon because

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well COME ON
if the cyberdemon doesn't look good to you then something is wrong with you

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but overall i felt like the hell guards had the most innovative boss fight

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and having 2 at a time was a good challenge especially on uv or nightmare

halcyon bear
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Remember the first time you beat one and 2 pop up and I was like fucking kidding me hahaha. Great memory

willow charm
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Cyberdemon is cool but Eternal’s is cooler

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or the Tyrant ig

gray tapir
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@halcyon bear when I first saw them I was like
“1 was pretty tough, I know I’m doom guy but 2 at the same time?!

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?!”

quaint brook
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that was me when I had to fight two doom hunters at the same time

elder meadow
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2 Doom hunters?, spams Super shotgun and plasma rifle on Doom hunters.

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then uses homing rockets when their shield breaks

elder meadow
abstract isle
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I prefer the 2016 cyberdemon and yeah wasn't a hard bossfight but still good fun, and you love to see a second health bar

hoary goblet
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i speedrunned lazarus lab in 4 minutes

sly bloom
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is there a console command to choose maps

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i got a mod that changes kadingir sanctum but i dont want to progress through a save file

clever ember
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you can replay lvls

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or play in arcade mode

sly bloom
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i got a mod

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you know what you are talking about, right?

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devmode locks normal mode saves

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and arcade mode doesnt work with mods

clever ember
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oof

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shame

clever ember
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lol

abstract isle
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Bot?

clever ember
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idk, you have to verify to get in

elder meadow
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is there any place for DOOM Eternal?

clever ember
elder meadow
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oh sorry did not notic thnx

static palm
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The doom hunter isnt in 2016 right?

gilded cipher
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Nope

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He debuted in Eternal

static palm
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alright

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i heard eternal is too hard on controller

uncut berry
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I have some objections.

static palm
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is it at least playable?

kindred summit
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It's easy when you get used to it

uncut berry
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I am an Xbox player and have done both Eternal and TAG on UN. It is very much console friendly.

static palm
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cuz i cant switch to kb and mouse

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alright

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just gotta get used to it huh

kindred summit
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You'll get used to it when you are nearing the end

static palm
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all these youtubers acting like its hell when using controller

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Wow

noble moat
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Yeah you tubers full of it

flint dune
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It’s not. I’ve beaten Eternal on UN, and it’s DLC with a controller. Just takes practice

noble moat
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They think all controllers players play like Dean

flint dune
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Pft

kindred summit
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Easy to learn difficult as fuck to master

gilded cipher
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True

noble moat
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Eh if you are used to controllers it’s a pretty easy thing to master

kindred summit
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Yeah I guess

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But choosing what works best may take a few playthroughs

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Because you may try something for a few playthroughs and try using something different another playthrough and it works like a charm

noble moat
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Imo every controller user should do 2 things

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Change their sensitivity

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And custom button layout

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Sadly 2016 doesn’t have custom button layout. But it also has less buttons so it’s fine

gilded cipher
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Definitely; because the default settings are quite sloppy, in my opinion

flint dune
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Eh I used the default settings. I’m used to them.

kindred summit
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Next time I play imma make the ads thing left stick

noble moat
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Yeah took me awhile to change sensitivity, look smoothing, turning off aim assist

flint dune
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Yeah all that stuff needs to be adjusted

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For a smoother experience imo

elder meadow
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Doom big epic

halcyon bear
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You can get doom 2016 smooth as butter after a few adjustments. Love that

gray tapir
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even without the custom button layout, the design for 2016's buttons wasn't horrible

left wing
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I wish in flight mobility was default in Snapmap

gray tapir
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i wish hell knights had eyes in 2016

clever ember
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meh

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I find the eyes weird in Eternal

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and even weirder in D3

left wing
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@gray tapir maybe they're from the same region of hell as in DOOM3

near aspen
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ps4 technically has custom layout with the remapping thing

gray tapir
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idk man hell knights look way better with eyes imo

halcyon bear
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Nah I like the no eye look. Reminds me of the 3 version. Looks creepy as fuck

left wing
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I'd prefer they had horns too

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No eyes, all horn

gray tapir
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nah they wouldn't look good with horns

halcyon bear
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I agree

main pine
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I wander if the 2016 hell knights had squishy heads like a beluga whale

gray tapir
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are you trying to go back to doom 2 when hell knights were just recoloured barons

left wing
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I saw some versions of them in the Eternal Artbook, I miss the horns

halcyon bear
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They do if you crush them

main pine
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Tru

left wing
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It's a nice touch @gray tapir I love me some horned demons

gray tapir
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i mean you don't squish their heads in any glory kills

clever ember
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that version of the Hell Knight is the Gladiator

main pine
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I kinda wanna poke it

gray tapir
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you either punch their head off, rip they jaw off, smash their head into the ground

left wing
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They don't have to be protruding like the barons, maybe on the top of the head like the Gladiator

main pine
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You smash head

gray tapir
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They don't have to be protruding like the barons, maybe on the top of the head like the Gladiator
still wouldn't look good

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hell knights look way better without horns

main pine
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I kinda with barons were as big and tanky as the cyberdemon

gray tapir
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they would be too big

clever ember
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no

gray tapir
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the hell are you on about

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barons are already like 2, maybe 3 times the size of doomguy

main pine
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Idk why tf not

halcyon bear
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The design is perfect in eternal now. Altered from 3 to 2016 to now. Looks good

clever ember
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yes

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the eyes tho

gray tapir
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The design is perfect in eternal now. Altered from 3 to 2016 to now. Looks good
@halcyon bear which demon

clever ember
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Hell Knight

halcyon bear
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^

main pine
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Cyberdemons are too rare imo

gray tapir
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well the species is extinct except for the one you fight

halcyon bear
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Well you kill the last baalgar cyberdemon in 2016

main pine
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Yeah, but the glory kill is the most satisfying one by miles

clever ember
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the gladiator one is also very nice

gray tapir
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hAK7eIaQwhs
baron of hell is 4.5m
then look at him compared to doomguy

Doom & Doom Eternal Demons size comparsion video.
A video without some demons.
I'll make it perfect later.
If you liked the video, please subscribe and like it.

둠 2016과 둠 이터널 악마 크기 비교 영상입니다.
몇종류의 악마는 빠져있는 테스트버전 영상이에요.
나중에 시간이 되면 둠 시리즈의 악마를 전부 불러보겠습니다.
영상 좋으셨다면 구독과 좋아요. 부탁드릴게요...

▶ Play video
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don't even try to tell me that boh's should be the size of cyberdemons

main pine
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Kinda wish gladiator wasn't just a boss and was is fights

clever ember
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no

main pine
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Kinda like marauder but rarer

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Super heavies are fun tho

clever ember
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while the marauder got understandable for me I still struggle with him (on HMP)

main pine
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Just fighting a bunch of imps and prowlers iskinda boring

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Marauder is annoying when there are other heavies in the same fight

clever ember
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very

main pine
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Aka: the hell on earth cafe

flint dune
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Gladiator as a normal enemy? Ouch. I mean if it was just its second phase, yeah that’d be neat. But I prefer it to stay as a boss

gray tapir
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Just fighting a bunch of imps and prowlers iskinda boring
@main pine imps are merged in with doom, unfortunately

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there will never been a doom game without them

clever ember
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why wouldn't they be in it

gray tapir
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fireballs

main pine
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Yeah but hordes of them are boring

gray tapir
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they r rooted into doom

main pine
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I know

gray tapir
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they are not going anywhere

clever ember
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a flamebelch and SS solves that

main pine
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Ss doesn't make much sense for hoards

clever ember
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yes

main pine
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Grenade launchers are the best for the hoards

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With the scatter bomb rhing

clever ember
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I was about Eternal, but in '16 yeah

gray tapir
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best weapon for hoards is..

clever ember
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BFG

gray tapir
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excluding that

main pine
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Lol i guess

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Its the crucible OBVIOUSLY

gray tapir
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in 2016

clever ember
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the blast on the plasma

main pine
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Whakem imps

halcyon bear
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Best troll weapon for a horde?HAR heavy rounds

upbeat quest
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gonna start straming for a bit, anyone wanna watch?

elder meadow
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im just here because im too poor to get doom eternal 😦

grand arrow
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Especially it's super shotgun coolcaco

abstract isle
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Best horde weapon is just chaingun or plasma

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There weren't enough massive horde fights in the campaign but snapmap got me covered there

elder meadow
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Having fun with chainsaw and rocket launcher.

elder meadow
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Rip and tear until it is done

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they are rage brutal without mercy

stoic epoch
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When the doom guy becomes realistic
i'd say that would be doom 3-

elder meadow
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When the doom guy becomes realistic
@rich fjord sad devil noizes

simple stream
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I'm going back and replaying this and I feel like Eternal made me such a better player; discovering all the secrets on the first 2 missions so far that I never was able to get 4 years ago, lol

halcyon bear
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From what I heard itll feel alot slower for you. But just try to play it as it's own game and not compare to much and itll be a good time

gray tapir
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obviously

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you can beat 2016 with any weapon

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yes

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there are youtube videos on it, it's not impossible

flint dune
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That can’t be fun though

gray tapir
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no, just takes alot of practice

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and playing on the easiest difficulty

elder meadow
glad heron
elder meadow
elder meadow
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I found glitch in 2016

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but i don't think anyone will fix very minor glitch

compact hare
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Is DOOM 2016 worth getting?

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Should it be my first DOOM game to be bought and not watched

river bolt
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Yes its a good first doom game

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Really leads into eternal well mechanics wise

compact hare
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I can’t make up my mind between the 2 since they’re both good games

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But i need to get my first one

elder meadow
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@compact hare Coming from someone that loves classic Doom 2016 is a breath of fresh air as it goes back to what makes the series fun and improves on the formula. Well worth it.

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If you are sticking with reboots, I am not sure I can recommend getting classics as both Doom 1 and 2 are fully included in Eternal as an Easter Egg.

compact hare
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So it’s definitely worth it getting DOOM 2016?

elder meadow
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A big yes! It’s awesome.

compact hare
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Alrighty then

last rapids
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@compact hare but dont pay for it lmao
@halcyon hazel excuse me?

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Smh

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I play on PS4 so no piracy

lament kiln
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Doom 2016 and eternal are worth the money

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But honestly I don’t know why 2016 isn’t on Xbox gamepass

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I mean it’s not a big deal but it makes no sense

autumn prism
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Because it got taken off before Bethesda and zenimax got bought by Microsoft

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As is the case with alot of gamepass games not directly under Microsoft

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However it might be put back on

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Same with other doom and id software games

gray tapir
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yeah keep giving bethesda your money

for a 4 year old game with no real online play

but not 2016
first off, people still play online in 2016, doesn't take long to find a match
also, what is wrong with buying a 4 year old game?
i can guarantee you to this day people still buy zelda ocarina of time, which came out almost 22 years ago now
and, doom 2016 is worth your money anyway
not as balanced/polished as eternal, but still amazing
heck if overwatch didn't exist it probably would have won game of the year

compact hare
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I play on PS4 so no piracy
@last rapids SAME

clever ember
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Dude

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It has an excellent SP campaign

autumn prism
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I'd honestly say doom 2016 is more polished then eternal cause eternal has alot of annoying bugs at the moment

gray tapir
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it has online play what are u on

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just not as active as eternal's

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plus the majority of people will buy doom for single player, not multi player

compact hare
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buying a 4 year old game with no real online play is dumb
@halcyon hazel I’m not looking forward to play Online on it

clever ember
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2016 MP > Eternal MP

compact hare
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I’m just looking forward to the experience

gray tapir
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i've been playing 2016 and people do play online stop capping

clever ember
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I don't play much online anyways

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No

gray tapir
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but the main drive of doom is it's single player

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how is it dumb

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there are WAY older games that people still buy today

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take ocarina of time, that guy is over 22 years old now

clever ember
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Fallout New Vegas for example

autumn prism
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Current doom, i think alot of people forget classic doom multiplayer was the tits and is the reason other shooters have multiplayer

gray tapir
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and people r still buying and playing that

compact hare
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I wanna play it as it will be my first DOOM, i’m not looking for Online play, besides, DOOM is still playable offline anyway

clever ember
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Old game is never = bad game

gray tapir
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anyway, it's not "dumb" to buy doom just because it's 4 years old

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some people want to experience 2016 before eternal you know

clever ember
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Also I always buy games when they're older (DE is an exception) because it's cheaper

gray tapir
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so your gonna buy 2016 for multiplayer

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what the hell?!
doom is mainly about single player

clever ember
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Why wouldn't you buy DOOM for SP?

gray tapir
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the reason eternal is so popular is BECAUSE of it's single player

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no

clever ember
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For you perhaps?

gray tapir
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your literally telling me that buying doom for it's single player is dumb

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when single player is probably doom's most important aspect

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im saying its dumb because you are buying doom for its single player campaign
then what is this?

autumn prism
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Which he isn't tho

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He's buying it for the single player

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And buying a 4 year old game isn't dumb

clever ember
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it's also way cheaper

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full price is dumb imo

gray tapir
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how?

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please clearly explain that to me

autumn prism
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I fail to see how

clever ember
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for a game mainly about it's campaign it 100% isn't

autumn prism
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If the money is still going to the devs

compact hare
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Why do you think that main priority of buying a 4 year old game is multi player?

gray tapir
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i really don't understand

clever ember
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MP doesn't drive DOOM so don't buy it for it

autumn prism
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If its a decade year old game and the money isn't going to the devs anymore

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I could see your point but thats not the case

gray tapir
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this guy is dming me now

clever ember
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lmao

compact hare
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This is my first DOOM and people start singleplayer before multiplayer, being mad at me for buying it without playing multiplayer is insane

clever ember
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@halcyon hazel you coward, PM'ing rlly?

autumn prism
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Take dead space for example if i could buy that game to support the original devs i totally would again, but since the money now only goes to ea, yeah no thanks

compact hare
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In fact, let me just quote your original message

clever ember
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B r u h

gray tapir
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this guy just said "imagine buying a 4 year old offline game"

compact hare
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“buying a 4 year old game with no real online play is dumb”

clever ember
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pulling the suicide card, really?

gray tapir
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do you have a problem with games that don't have online or something

clever ember
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^

gray tapir
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this guy is literally trying to tell me that there is no point in giving bethesda/id more money by buying their 4 year old game

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which mind you, is very fun

clever ember
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if the main driving point is a SP campaign

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then it's worth the money

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(if it's a good campaign)

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in '16s case it is

gray tapir
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and doom's campaign is good

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from the story to the gameplay

clever ember
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especially the gameplay

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I have no problem myself with piracy of old games BUT I always try to buy those games later

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Fallout New Vegas is an example of that

compact hare
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Thanks for defending me with this one guys, i don’t know how buying a 4 y/o game not for it’s online player is dumb either way lol

gray tapir
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doom's main drive is it's single player anyway

clever ember
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^

gray tapir
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whenever i ask people why they bought doom, most of them say
"for it's campaign"

clever ember
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bcs that's DOOM driving force

gray tapir
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which is why this guy is annoying me

clever ember
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also, don't play the MP without knowing how the SP works

gray tapir
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jesus where is bob or suter when you need them

compact hare
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I’m buying DOOM 2016 for the campaign, as it’s my first experience of playing a DOOM game, yes, i started late

gray tapir
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exactly

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the majority of people buy doom for it's campaign, not it's multiplayer

clever ember
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I always recommend people to play 2016 FIRST

quartz drift
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I think if you play 2016 you will undestand Eternal more both in gameplay and Lore

clever ember
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^

compact hare
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I’ll get Eternal when i want to, i’ll be happy enough with 2016

clever ember
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very good

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2016 is such a blast

gray tapir
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bfg would agree

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literally

last rapids
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Honestly doom 2016’s graphics just looks so damn good tho compared to the games in that time

clever ember
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^

halcyon bear
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Aesthetically it was definitely superior. It also brought back that speed and movement from the classics with a modern injection on top of it all. Just all together perfect blend of mechanics, aesthetics and gameplay. Also had alot of room to grow.

untold swan
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I'm Dr. Samuel Hayden

ornate egret
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Are you the head of this facility

elder meadow
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Hello head of the UAC facility Dr. Samuel Hayden

lament kiln
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Who will you be working together with

autumn prism
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Yeah he'd be the hell gaurds

elder meadow
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wtach me play doom now

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watch me play doom 2016 in voice 1

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now

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@here watch me play doom 2016 in voice 1

versed cipher
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What the fuck was the conversation above?

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That guy was a moron.

fresh oar
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Should i buy doom 2016?

errant bloom
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No.

fresh oar
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Why?

noble moat
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He said no as in “why go to the doom server and ask if you should buy doom, who would say no?”

fresh oar
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I have some doom games

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Just not doom 2016

errant bloom
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Well. Doom 2016 is incredible. Its literally critically acclaimed and praised. Idk what we should tell you

fresh oar
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Ah whatever imma buy it

errant bloom
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Good man

real haven
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Yo anybody PS4 2016 Multiplayer?

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Ping if

gray tapir
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They do

halcyon bear
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Imagine hating on doom 2016 bahahahahahahahah jerryondrugs

copper talon
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i like doom

cloud ivy
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Anybody on PC Wanna Play Doom Team Deathmatch It Is Impossible To Find People

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If you wanna play multiplayer go to voicechat 2

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i will brb

static palm
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Ps4 owners big sad rn

cloud ivy
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ye

plush widget
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@fresh oar buy it. It's basically a different game from eternal. Whether it's map layout, weapons, art style, or combat.

clever ember
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meh

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don't agree with everything
They feel quite similar

halcyon bear
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Ps4 owners big sad rn
@static palm took me 3 days to get all the multiplayer achievements. Theres still active lobbies. Occasionally

atomic frost
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yo is there new game+ in doom 2016?

clever ember
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what do you mean by that?

atomic frost
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new game+ means you restart the game but with all the weapons and upgrades unlocked

clever ember
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that doesn't exist BUT you can replay levels

gray tapir
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no ng+, but you can replay any level you want
but you can't start a new campaign with all your equipment and all that

elder meadow
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^

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Any other doom eternal players coming back to this game feel that Doom 2016 is slower? Or is it just me

halcyon bear
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It is but it's still great. Play it as it's own individual game and enjoy it. No use comparing them

elder meadow
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Yeah you're right

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But sometimes i find myself missing the dash and fast travel

fresh oar
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Ok I'ma going to buy doom 2016...imma buy the slayers collections which has doom, doom 2, doom 3, and doom 2016.
For 30 bucks. This is awesome

elder meadow
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Yeah, it's awesome

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I would recommend using that WAD of Doom and using a source port for PC to play brutal doom

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I'm still surprised at how VEGA can fit onto a USB stick

halcyon bear
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I'd avoid playing brutal doom. Especially since it's your first playthrough. But I'm a purist so whatever. Feel like you should experience the classics the original way

uneven vale
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I'm still surprised at how VEGA can fit onto a USB stick
@elder meadow Welcome to the future!

elder meadow
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I'd avoid playing brutal doom. Especially since it's your first playthrough. But I'm a purist so whatever. Feel like you should experience the classics the original way
@halcyon bear That's fair, i just really love brutal doom lol

halcyon bear
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Hey man if you like it right on. Do what you enjoy

elder meadow
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Thanks!

arctic horizon
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Guys

elder meadow
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what

dull jackal
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@uneven vale bruh ur not real vega

uneven vale
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I mean, no, I am not the bot

iron fox
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VEGA is real VEGA...

stuck berry
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well at least there is a element of truth to the power required to run amd VEGA

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needed a nuclear power plant

near aspen
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lmao, you right

stuck berry
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still running a rx 580 here, blasts eternal on ultra nightmare on 1080p. got better over time

near aspen
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my r9 390 died so i had to get a 2060 back in late august

stuck berry
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scared to buy new hardware now. everything pre console seems obsolete

clever ember
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just wait until the RTX 40xx series/AMD equivalent comes out

near aspen
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Waiting for the rx 6k embargo to lift to see how they really perform

last rapids
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@real haven Ps4 multi?

compact hare
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it’s happening, DOOM 2016 is midway installed on my PS4

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I’m about to be a slayer

elder meadow
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Nice! Good game by the way.

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hi,m one of the doors in Kadingir Sanctum is shut after i backtracked

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got through it, backtracked to do a rune and BAM, its sealed shut now

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PS4

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I have heard of that. Not a bug as that is intended after exiting and when you backtracked it shut you out. The only way to fix that is to restart mission. Items you earned already should be saved though.

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hmmm, how'd i get out of it them?

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man, that is annoying...

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Hit start button and choose restart mission.

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no no i mean, how did i get past that door if it was shut?

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not back in. how did i backtrack?

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or does it shut after doing the runes

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You can’t unfortunately on current playthrough to my knowledge. I think it shut when you went back to do rune.

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oh bummer. its such a long mission too. i guess its faster since ive found everything. oh well....

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restart it is. thanks

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I double checked for you. Someone else had same issue as you and did the same with Rune.

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a lot of people got the toher door shut. the one where you can railgun hop over

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i couldn't find anyone with this door but i get nothings posted because no one figured out how to get past it

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The other guy was on a Steam forum and re-doing mission seemed to help him. Frustrating though.

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aiite. i'll do that too. thanks\

eager saffron
#

Going back to DOOM (2016) after finishing DOOM Eternal is quite a challenge.

elder meadow
#

damit, all progress was lost

#

you need to finish the mission for the stuff to be saved

#

should invest in that suit to show where all the secrets are. all this backtracking SUCCCCKKKKKSS

#

Bummer. Definitely that tracking option for suit helps with secrets.

#

I feel you. You’re not the only one backtracking. Learning with save system and had to go back a few times on older levels to get secrets and stuff I missed, some of which had to be repeated a few times.

sullen cloud
#

Anyone want to jump into '16 NA Multiplayer? 3/4 in lobby

last rapids
#

Anyone PS4 multi 😩

edgy sinew
#

what is your guys favorite doom mod?????

stuck berry
#

abused plasma stun and gauss charge on doom 2016, also upgraded ssg makes the game ez mode

silk acorn
#

Gauss charge? The siege shot?

stuck berry
#

yeah

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then again havent touched 2016 since eternal

silk acorn
#

I chose the other one

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The one where you can still move around while charging

stuck berry
#

siege shot kills cacos on 1 hit

#

other one is scope yes?

silk acorn
#

Mhm

stuck berry
#

neither scope of heavy rifle or gauss were of value for my play style

silk acorn
#

What mod is better for the chaingun? Gatling rotator or mobile turret?

noble moat
#

Mobile turret not even a question not even a debate

#

Gatling rotator is insanely usless

silk acorn
#

What does the ultimate cooling upgrade do with the mobile turret then?

noble moat
#

Without it your gun overheats after a bit

#

With it you can fire forever

silk acorn
#

I see

halcyon bear
#

Usless but fun... I need to stop using fun usless mods

errant bloom
#

No u shouldnt

#

Point of a videogame is fun

halcyon bear
#

I like that answer. Guess I'll keep using HAR heavy rounds then

noble moat
#

HAR heavy rounds are super fun to use

silk acorn
#

Heavy Assault Rifle heavy rounds?

#

The scope ones?

halcyon bear
#

That would be it

silk acorn
#

The scope isn't useless ^^

halcyon bear
#

Nope. And its alot of fun too. Really beefy

noble moat
#

Both Scope and MM are quite useful

silk acorn
#

I have both

noble moat
#

I like scope more cuz it looks and feels cooler

silk acorn
#

Micro missiles are useful for weaker enemies

#

To finish them off quicker

halcyon bear
#

You get good with head shots with the heavy rounds you can fuck up demons fast

frigid spire
#

isnt that the box on the side of the gun?

silk acorn
#

Mhm

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The mini box with 6 missiles

#

What mods do you use for the rocket launcher?

noble moat
#

Lock on

silk acorn
#

Oh same

noble moat
#

Not a fan of remote det since you have to let it travel and activate when you could have swapped after firing

silk acorn
#

Plus lock on is more accurate

gray tapir
#

Not a fan of remote det since you have to let it travel and activate when you could have swapped after firing
remote det is way better and more useful in eternal

#

but i still prefer lock on in eternal cuz it kills hell knights instantly and puts dread knights into a glory kill state

noble moat
#

Lock on in eternal is broken

gray tapir
#

yeah bro

frigid spire
#

good broken?

noble moat
#

Ye

gray tapir
#

yeah, good broken

noble moat
#

It’s soooo overpowered

gray tapir
#

the ammo kind of nerfs it

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lock on + overdrive tho

#

you could legit get through the game with only the rocket launcher

noble moat
#

Eh ammo nerf isn’t much of a problem when you consider a lock on kills all medium heavies
And severely damages heavies

gray tapir
#

uh..medium heavies?

flint dune
#

It should just take longer to lock-on. Or lock-on should do less damage. It’s op in this game too.

gray tapir
#

i mean i'm fine with it 🙂

noble moat
#

In 2016 mediums are classified by demons that use less ammo than a heavy or super heavy

silk acorn
#

It does take longer, you can upgrade it to decrease the lock on time

noble moat
#

So I use the same classification for those in eternal

gray tapir
#

so are imps mediums?

noble moat
#

Hell knight
Caco
Dreadknight
Are
“Medium”

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Imps are fodder of course

gray tapir
#

i feel like dread knight is a proper heavy

#

but hell knight is a medium yeah

flint dune
#

@silk acorn No I mean when fully upgraded, it shouldn’t be able to lock-on that much faster. Either that, or have lock-on rockets do less damage.

noble moat
#

Nah issue in eternal is after firing a lock on, you don’t have to lock on again to fire another volley

#

In 2016 after you fire a lock on, it resets and you need to lock on again

gray tapir
#

yeah you can spam fire lol

flint dune
#

True

noble moat
#

Combined with eternal rockets doing massive damage, hella op

gray tapir
#

rocket launcher + overdrive = ez mode

silk acorn
#

What's overdrive?

noble moat
#

And quad damage

gray tapir
#

a powerup that makes ammo infinite

noble moat
#

And it applies Haste

gray tapir
#

add quad damage and even tyrants won't last long lol

flint dune
#

It’s basically haste combined with infinite ammo

gray tapir
#

turn on quad damage and overdrive
and only use the rocket launcher
and i'm confident that even on nightmare the game wouldn't be a challenge

flint dune
#

Probably not

gray tapir
#

overdrive is more op then in 2016 anyway
it's 2016's haste, combined with infinite ammo, making it much more viable

edgy sinew
#

why doom multiplayer is very dead?

#

i love doom so much

#

thats my favorite game

#

but why is very dead???

halcyon bear
#

Jesus

noble moat
#

Because the majority of people hated it because they couldn’t appreciate a good gamemode if it was spoon fed to them

#

And it’s 4 years old

halcyon bear
#

It really is a blast

#

That's unfortunate

noble moat
#

Everyone complained non stop how bad they hated This multiplayer

Then eternal has Battlemode and sudden,y everyone wants deathmatch back

Pathetic. You reap what you sow

#

Very unfortunate

gray tapir
#

You can never please everyone

halcyon bear
#

One thing I have to say though is that snap maps was amazing. Everyone loved them. And they should have kept that feature

silk acorn
#

What are snap maps exactly?

#

Never tried them

flint dune
#

It’s a map builder, where players can make their own missions, mini-game ect.

silk acorn
#

Oh interesting

red flume
#

people want deathmatch back but they want good deathmatch. Not the Halo-lite style DM that 2016 had. Put weapon and megaHP/armor spawns on the map and the people complaining about Battlemode will be sated.

#

the reasonable ones anyway. some people just like complaining

left wing
#

@red flume you need not worry any more. If you have Roblox, ROOM II will be releasing next month. It's exactly what you are looking for.

#

The multiplayer, I mean, a sample of the campaign will release next year

gray tapir
#

sample of campaign will be there on release

#

100 robux

#

full campaign will be next year

elder meadow
#

in this video

latent heath
#

and i thought i was good

compact hare
#

Almost got stuck on a level, back-traced myself and found where to go lol

#

Thing i love doing in DOOM is when a demon is on somewhere i can drop down to, i always drop down and then shoot the demon with the shotgun head first

#

It drives me insane because of satisfaction

real haven
#

Yo

#

Doom 2016

#

PS4 Multiplayer

#

'GojiraMan25'

#

Get in losers

halcyon bear
#

You are the coolest kid on the block

real haven
#

This is true

elder meadow
#

Clockner is too good i wanna see him play eternal too

fathom trench
#

Yeah his wolfenstein and doom videos...are just wow

#

I'm trying to get all the medals for doom 2016

#

still haven't started eternal yet

drowsy phoenix
elder meadow
#

gauss cannon and ssg is hella op

tacit urchin
#

Is there a place for matchmaking for doom 2016?

elder meadow
#

no

wintry lava
#

I wanna replay 2016 in arcade mode, does anyone have any tips and tricks to how i can maximise my score??

dull yoke
#

why does the defibrillator make weird noises in 2016?

elder meadow
#

the gauss cannon is like the balista from eternal

willow charm
#

gauss cannon + ssg = you win

stoic epoch
#

the gauss cannon is like the balista from eternal
yes, but on steroids
siege mode tears through everything

jolly geyser
#

why does the defibrillator make weird noises in 2016?
@dull yoke what defibrillator

dull yoke
#

in the second level

flint dune
#

Some of the runes in this game are severely broken too (overpowered).

dull yoke
#

in the room you get the chainsaw

jolly geyser
#

Oh yes

#

Idk

stoic epoch
#

the armor and ammo rune comes to mind-

#

rich get richer, i think

dull yoke
#

its like its crying

gilded cipher
#

I wanna replay 2016 in arcade mode, does anyone have any tips and tricks to how i can maximise my score??
@wintry lava Crank up the difficulty either to NM or UN. Explore most of the levels, as collectible toys can give you 1UPs and therefore, points. Kill demons and destroy the "bombs" containing the relics as fast as possible. Item drops can help you keep your multiplier maximized

wintry lava
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@wintry lava Crank up the difficulty either to NM or UN. Explore most of the levels, as collectible toys can give you 1UPs and therefore, points. Kill demons and destroy the "bombs" containing the relics as fast as possible. Item drops can help you keep your multiplier maximized
@gilded cipher will do man, I'll keep my progress posted

silk acorn
#

Do people think doom 2016 has a more grim and realistic feel than eternal?

flint dune
#

It definitely does

noble moat
#

100%

silk acorn
#

I like that about it, the glory kills felt more real

vast citrus
#

I hope that future doom content gets the doom 2016 atmosphere again

clever ember
#

or a mix of both

#

or fully DOOM 3

stoic epoch
#

imagine a doom 3 styled game with the intern as the protagonist-

silk acorn
#

Also the doom 2016 demons had a properly scary look

errant bloom
#

No. I prefer Eternals Style. I just think the rotating firechains and pop sounds are a bit too much in Eternal. Eternal has the more expressive demons.

silk acorn
#

I like darker grim atmospheres personally ^^

errant bloom
#

Nothing wrong with that

vast citrus
#

I prefer eternal's demons except for the small zombie. I HATE the spinning weapons tho

silk acorn
#

The wind up ones?

errant bloom
#

Only revenant is a misstep in eternal

clever ember
#

both, both is good

errant bloom
#

Like wtf 2016 revenant was perfect

vast citrus
#

no like when you got to pick up the super shotgun its spinning

silk acorn
#

I loved the 2016 revenant

vast citrus
#

i prefered in 2016 when you pick the chainsaw up out of a half sawed corpse

silk acorn
#

Then they gave the revenant eyes in eternal

vast citrus
#

the eternal revenant shouldve looked like the classic revenant skin

silk acorn
#

But yes, both games are good in their own right

halcyon bear
#

Rev is more grim and dark in 2016 eternal has solid design in it's own right though

frank holly
simple stream
#

Replaying 2016 I'm always looking for a longer and more intense gore nest fight; I guess that's why Eternal did more to make the fights longer and where you need to actually use the chainsaw to maintain ammo throughout

compact hare
#

Alright guys, my DOOM 2016’s installation is fully complete

#

I’ve unlocked all secrets from Resource Ops and The UAC

flint dune
#

Nice

compact hare
#

So during installation, WI-FI went to crap

#

The PS4 was downloading 3 things all at once, a system software update, the DOOM 2016 update and the game itself

#

So i paused everything, waited for DOOM to fully install and then i resumed everything

#

And finally, i can now slay

stoic epoch
#

good luck on your journey

compact hare
#

Thank you

gilded cipher
#

Good luck, brother coolcaco

halcyon bear
#

Replaying 2016 I'm always looking for a longer and more intense gore nest fight; I guess that's why Eternal did more to make the fights longer and where you need to actually use the chainsaw to maintain ammo throughout
@simple stream you really should enjoy 2016 for what it is instead of comparing it. I'm sure eternals sequel will add more things... that doesnt mean eternal will be less enjoyable

silk acorn
#

I agree

#

They are both great games in their own right

final burrow
#

5_

leaden creek
#

bruh why do the specter’s have such a huge hitbox in multiplayer

#

like even if you use lethal thrusters and go above it it still kills you

elder meadow
last rapids
#

Why valorant

compact hare
#

What do i do with the collectibles?

noble moat
#

Nothing

compact hare
#

oh

#

why is it such a big deal to collect

noble moat
#

Most count towards in level progress and grant weapon points

#

Finding mor early helps upgrade weapons sooner

compact hare
#

Ohhhhh

#

Do old maps do anything? I already have DOOM 1 Hangar and DOOM 2 Entryway

noble moat
#

You can replay them through the menu

#

That’s about it

compact hare
#

Oh

noble moat
#

However most of the maps are not balanced well at all

compact hare
#

Yikes

#

How many weapons are there in D16?

flint dune
#

In the campaign: 9

#

I think there’s about 3-4 new weapons introduced in the multiplayer

gilded cipher
#

Do old maps do anything? I already have DOOM 1 Hangar and DOOM 2 Entryway
@compact hare I think they count to your secrets percentage; which grant you weapon points as well

compact hare
#

Oh

elder meadow
#

i

compact hare
#

I’m in Hell on Mars now

silk acorn
#

Nice

worthy kestrel
#

I'm on earth

#

Literally

#

Yes I know I'm a comedian

halcyon bear
elder meadow
#

I hope this is fine to say in an offical server

#

but is DOOM 2016 online dead?

#

I take it the mutiplayer trophies are easy to get

flint dune
#

It isn’t quite dead. Depends on your region and your platform. You’ll have a tougher time finding matches on console than on PC.

elder meadow
#

I take it the dlc thophys are easy?

#

I got the sequel as well, the PS5 works with my wifi better and I got my first online for the PS for Bugsnax

simple stream
#

mobile turret with infinite cooling and unlimited rounds waaaat

elder meadow
#

Also do most gamers even care about acivements much? I guess I should plantium Last o fUs 2

halcyon bear
#

I got those trophies in 3 days. Definitely not dead at all. Depends on the time

merry skiff
#

@simple stream dude, when you get the mastery for Gatling Rotator, it’s actually good

#

Mobile turret is better for hordes of zombies and junk

elder meadow
#

What is the most popular DOOM 2016 mutiplayer mode?

ocean stump
#

probably TDM or soul harvest

silk acorn
#

The incendiary bullets mastery?

merry skiff
#

Yeah, that’s better use of ammo for larger enemies

silk acorn
#

Now i don't know what to go for first ;-;

clever dew
#

DLC trophies require you to reach Prestige 8 and finish a challenge that involves killing the MVP 5 times in a single match. Which also means you need to play 4 more matches too for that

#

Ranking up is fast, but it's still a grind

#

Also it'll take way more than 3 days if you don't play for 5 hours straight every day

halcyon bear
#

Maybe. But I did it

#

So its doable

#

In 3 days

#

Really wasn't that difficult

modest zealot
#

I like how the Cyberdemon and Spider Mastermind themes are basically dance raves

elder meadow
#

nightmare is not fun

halcyon bear
#

Other than the imps its probably the most fun difficulty

compact hare
#

i have 2 trophies and i’m in fricking Hell on Mars

compact hare
#

I’m pretty sure i'm missing something

compact hare
#

Eh, i don’t care, Argent Tower was a pain in the ass, i literally needed to find a walkthrough so i could get somewhere

brittle grove
#

why doesn't the cacodemon have a pupil on his eye

compact hare
#

Idk

#

Ask one of the people online right now from Id Software

halcyon bear
#

It also have shriveled up legs... probably an evolutionary trait .. also it looks cool with a green eyeball

brittle grove
#

it had a green eyeball in doom classic

#

they don't look like strawberries anymore

#

now they look like shriveled up raw meatballs

#

and that's ok in my opinion

halcyon bear
#

They use their eyes though. That's for sure. Because if you shoot them enough in the eye they spin around because they are blind before they explode

brittle grove
#

so cacodemons are blind now

#

how do they sense doomguys presence

halcyon bear
#

I didn't say that at all

brittle grove
#

because they are blind before they explode

#

oh wait you blind them oh wait fuck im dumb

halcyon bear
#

If you only shoot them in the eye in 2016 they spin around like they're blind before they explode

brittle grove
#

oh yeau

#

also isn't there a glory kill where you rip out its eye

worthy kestrel
#

That's all the glory kills for it

compact hare
#

There’s 1 glory kill for 1 demon each

gray tapir
#

Nope

#

Multiple glory kills for each demon beside bosses

spice socket
#

Just mainly depends on where you execute it from, the front, sides or back

silk acorn
#

Also what part of the body you target

#

Right leg, left leg, arms, head, chest

spice socket
#

^ for like barons of hell, there are several ways you take it down based on position

silk acorn
#

I've only got the up front horn glory kill

spice socket
#

Oh I’m thinking of eternal for several baron kills

#

Yeah, 2016 only has the one where you rip it’s horn off I tink

silk acorn
#

Ahh

spice socket
#

No wait

#

Damn it’s been a while since I played 2016

#

And if I remember correctly there’s another front glory kill where you shove it in it’s face or something like that?

silk acorn
#

Yeah

spice socket
#

I was gonna redownload 2016 but it’s not on gamepass anymore doomguy_angry

silk acorn
#

Oof ;-;

elder meadow
#

The baron Front glorykill is kinda meh imo

#

It doesnt bring that Energy

#

It surely is heavy, but seeing as the slayer carries so many weapons, some of them constructed for mounted use or even for demons, he should be able to swing that horn harder

#

Still can't find anybody on mutiplayer sigh

elder meadow
#

Wouldnt be surprised if quake or classic doom had more people play multiplayer

elder meadow
#

Im allways gaming on the go so switch is my go to platform, I know xbox, pc versions are superior....but Im on switch, so looking for help hete, eventually friends to play with. Thanks to everyone willing to help

#

Hi guys, new here, is switch multiplayer active?

dapper shadow
#

I have a question about Doom 2016 Switch version.

halcyon bear
#

I agree the baron kill could be a little more beefy but I still love bashing those fuckers in every time

elder meadow
#

Doom Eternal glory kills> Doom 2016 glory kills change my mind

silk acorn
#

It's subjective imo

#

2016 glory kills feel more satisfying to me

gray tapir
#

Glory kills in 2016 really made you FEEL like doomguy

brittle grove
#

imagine if there was a glory kill for the lost soul

#

where doomguy grabs the soul, pins him on the ground, and crushes it by slamming his foot onto it

#

they are just flying skulls after all

silk acorn
#

Doom eternal glory kills are mostly stabby stabby unless you have berserk active

limpid spoke
#

I love 2016

#

It’s the best interpretation of doom guy

#

Badass

brittle grove
#

eternal gave him sooper power which seems kinda out of character for doomguy

jolly geyser
#

Credits scene in Doom 2016 was unique

#

Most games doesn't have something like it

#

The only credits where you don't get bored from reading or watching it

flint dune
#

2016 glory kills were more brutal. The animations aren’t as polished as Eternal’s though. Also I agree, Doom 2016’s credit scene was pretty cool.

noble moat
#

A man who can run full speed hella fast nonstop while holding like 7 guns
He’s been having sooper powers
Since 1993

silk acorn
#

He has super strength

#

Iirc

#

He has a variation of super speed too

limpid spoke
#

Also quick time events aren’t gay like cod

brittle grove
#

that does explain how he can hold the bfg and run at max speed

#

the bfg must be hella heavy jesus christ

jolly geyser
#

the problem isn't heaviness

silk acorn
#

Imagine the chaingun

jolly geyser
#

the problem is where does he put all those guns on his back

limpid spoke
#

It’s a video game

jolly geyser
#

ikr

#

I just find it interesting

limpid spoke
#

Ye

obsidian parcel
#

Pockets

gray tapir
silk acorn
#

True

elder meadow
#

Gonna punch someones skull in today

gray tapir
#

"Hey bro."
"What's up?"
"Nothing."
grabs and punches skull in

gilded cipher
#

Everyone else at the playground:
😳

wintry lava
#

I just passed 2 000 000 in UAC arcade mode, hell yeah

gilded cipher
elder meadow
#

ok so

#

advanced research complex

#

thing called "BFG prime lab", theres this object you need to get, but when you enter the room it goes on lockdown

#

rayshields block the object and lazers on the floor kill you and ones on the ceiling come down and up

#

how tf you supposed to do this?

#

ive tried it like 20 times and cant find out how to do it

#

ah nvm got it

#

gotta destroy the red things that move the lasers

gilded cipher
#

So I discovered this by accident: when you try reaching the BFG don't jump, hug the wall and you won't fall. Then shoot those red things

#

It makes it much easier coolcaco

gray tapir
#

won't the lasers still get you?

gilded cipher
#

Nope xd

#

Stick to those walls as much as you can. Just be careful when walking sideways

halcyon bear
#

Well that's a neat trick

elder meadow
#

theres a line between fucking stupid and hard

#

and the first boss is fucking stupid

gray tapir
#

the cyberdemon?

#

it's not stupid

elder meadow
#

that fucking ball lazer shit attack does like 45dmg a hit and i cant fucking dodge ut

gray tapir
#

45dmg isn't that much

#

on nightmare it does like 100 lol

elder meadow
#

i only have 175 health

#

its like 1/4 of my health a hit

#

and when it fucking SPAMS IT

#

like why is it not fucking dodgeable

gray tapir
#

it doesn't spam it that often

elder meadow
#

is there no way to dodge it?

gray tapir
#

and it is dodgeable

elder meadow
#

how the fuc

gray tapir
#

just go the way the beam isn't

spice socket
#

Timing

elder meadow
#

it tracks me?

#

i move around and it tracks onto me

gray tapir
#

yeah but you can avoid it just before it fires

elder meadow
#

ive been doing that

#

i dont stop moving and it tracks on and whoops there goes 3/4 of my health

gray tapir
#

1/4

#

cyberdemon is literally the easiest boss

#

just use the rpg lock on
and then use the bfg with the siege mode

#

ez win

spice socket
#

Wait for the next boss doomguy_grin

gilded cipher
#

Tbh, I didn't feel the Hell Guards were that bad on NM; for me

halcyon bear
#

That boss is a good time and solid design. To bad that species is ded

gray tapir
#

bfg + siege mode
all you need

versed cipher
#

This game has a BFG?

spice socket
#

yes

versed cipher
#

I never saw it lmao

spice socket
#

there’s a song in the track based on it, BFG division

gray tapir
#

how have you never seen it

#

it's literally mandatory, you can't miss it

versed cipher
#

Well, 1. Never played the game.

  1. Never played the game.

And three... never played the game.

spice socket
gray tapir
#

oh

versed cipher
#

I'm planning on buying it though, so I'm gonna frequent in this channel for a bit

gray tapir
#

i see

versed cipher
#

Before buying it, I wanna play the demo again so I can get a feel of the controls and get used to it after playing so much Eternal

silk acorn
#

BFG division is amazing

#

I can tell you that much

gray tapir
#

it's in eternal too

silk acorn
#

Isn't that a remixed version?

gray tapir
#

no

#

just skips the opening part

silk acorn
#

Ahh

spice socket
#

It plays in the training room in the fortress right?

gray tapir
#

and shortens down the song too like 5 minutes

gilded cipher
gray tapir
#

but still the same song

silk acorn
#

I have yet to fight the cyberdemon, i'm at the start of lazarus labs

#

Just got the chaingun too

spice socket
#

Cyberdemon is great

silk acorn
#

Gonna go for moble turret

gray tapir
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go for it, the rotator is useless

gilded cipher
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Definitely

spice socket
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It really is

silk acorn
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Apparently once you get the incendiary round mastery it's not?

spice socket
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Even then, mobile turret is leagues better for whittling bigger demons down

gray tapir
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the what

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the mobile turret is way better lol

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you start off firing at full force with the mt anyway

silk acorn
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Ultimate cooling comes in handy too

halcyon bear
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Bfg devision satisfacdoom

spice socket
gilded cipher
spice socket
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That is a unique counter arguement

gray tapir
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you'll have to wait for it to rotate, for like a second or 2

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in doom a second or 2 of not shooting can cost you your life

silk acorn
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That is very true

gray tapir
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plus your not wasting ammo, your shots are still hitting something

silk acorn
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The mobile turret when active doesn't need to wind up

gray tapir
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and less ammo is used the slower the chaingun is firing

spice socket
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Mobile turrets the way to go bubba

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Whittles barons of hell down quick

silk acorn
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But until you get the ultimate cooling mastery, get ready for overheating

halcyon bear
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Overheats damn fast without it

gilded cipher
spice socket
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Turn super heavy demons into pieces quick

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Without the BFG while being fun

gray tapir
silk acorn
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But it does decrease your movement speed

halcyon bear
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I like to use the HAR heavy rounds for trolling demon purposes

spice socket
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Is it the eternal chaingun im thinking of or is it both games where there’s a weapon upgrade that increases movement speed

gray tapir
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the har without mods kinda sucks

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it takes so long to take down even a hell knight

silk acorn
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Micro missiles can be useful

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But then again..the scope is useful too

gray tapir
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without mods

silk acorn
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Oh yeah, it's bad without mods

halcyon bear
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You get good with the scope heavy rounds its useful for sniping imps and you can even take out hellknights insanely fast

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I guess snipe imps are more of an issue in nightmare

gray tapir
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true, but i find the rapid explosions of micro missiles to be better

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can really make a demon stumble, you know?

spice socket
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Bottomless micro missles are dummy fun

silk acorn
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What's the mastery challenge for bottomless missiles?

halcyon bear
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Definitely better. I just have fun running and jumping and then like killing a weak baron with a couple heavy rounds for the laughs

spice socket
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Multi kills or chain kills with micro missles?

gray tapir
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something like that

spice socket
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I think.

gray tapir
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then you get to fire them endlessly

silk acorn
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But it does cost quite a bit of ammo?

spice socket
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You have to kill like 3 demons at once with one round of micro missles a couple of times

gray tapir
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obviously

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each mm cost like 2 or 3 pieces of ammo

gilded cipher
spice socket
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That’s why the chainsaw exists

silk acorn
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True

gray tapir
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meaning at max ammo (210) you could fire like 70 mm's

spice socket
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Even then, that many mm’s are enough to turn a baron of hell into chunks

halcyon bear
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I'm going to make an HAR trolling compilation

gray tapir
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obviously

spice socket
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Then when you run out of ammo, ir chainsaw time

gray tapir
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and then onslaught them again

spice socket
gray tapir
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i generally really like the mm's

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if i need to stagger a demon i can always rely on them

halcyon bear
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They are more useful but heavy rounds are more fun

gray tapir
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it really helps with demons that like to engage you like hell knights and boh's

spice socket
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The easiest way to get the endless mm’s is to just group together a bunch of fodder demons together

silk acorn
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What mod do you prefer for the combat shotgun?

gray tapir
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grenade

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EASILYYY

spice socket
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Sticky bombs

halcyon bear
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Grenades all it's good for

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Shotgun alone is a bit poopy

gray tapir
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in 2016 the other mod just sucked

spice socket
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Full auto kinda just wastes ammo

silk acorn
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The charged burst?

gray tapir
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ye

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in eternal full auto is better but
the reason the combat shotgun is the 2nd most used weapon (kills wise; in eternal)
is because of the sticky bombs

halcyon bear
gray tapir
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the mastery for it gives you like 10 shotgun shells back

spice socket
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I mean it’s good if your an up close kinda player

gray tapir
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it can be useful

spice socket
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Can do dummy damage if you hit most shots

gray tapir
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but like the mm and heavy rounds in 2016
stick grenade has more uses

halcyon bear
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I tend to just quick swap for the grenade damage. That's about it

gray tapir
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not to mention cacodemons are just out from sticky grenades

silk acorn
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Gauss cannon is useful too, but i went for the scope blast, although i've heard the siege shot is better

gilded cipher
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The siege mod is God

gray tapir
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siege mode is WAYY better

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hell knights, cacodemons etc
all one shotted by it

halcyon bear
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Seige mode is godly

jolly geyser
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What is the second type of grenade called?

gray tapir
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and with bigger demons like mancubi and boh's it does big big dmg

spice socket
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Siege mode or bust

gray tapir
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there is the default, siphon, and hologram

jolly geyser
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Ah yes Siphon

gray tapir
jolly geyser
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Never used that one yet because i don't know it's key

silk acorn
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i will once i find another field drone

halcyon bear
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That baby might as well be a bfg

gray tapir
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hell knights are just obliterated

spice socket
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Siege mode kicks serious ass

gray tapir
silk acorn
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But you have to stay still to use it?

gray tapir
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if you master it you can move

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plus if your good at the game it's not hard to know when to use it

spice socket
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Do the mastery and become a mobile machine of death

gray tapir
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you could literally get through the whole campaign with siege mode provided you have ammo

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that's how good it is

silk acorn
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The mastery literally negates the negative effect of not being able to move

gray tapir
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yeah

spice socket
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Siege mode is BROKEN with mastery

gray tapir
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the only demons that cna survive a single siege mode blast are
bosses (ofc), boh's and mancubi

halcyon bear
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It's not super broken. Only thing I'd say is broken is mastery ssg

gray tapir
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if i missing one let me know but

gray tapir
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the amount of demons you can clear out with 1 shot

silk acorn
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Being able to fire the super shotgun twice is broken?

gray tapir
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like 80% of all demons can't survive a single shot

halcyon bear
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Still need to switch though. You can beat the entire game using just the ssg

gray tapir
halcyon bear
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Which is lame

spice socket
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Because the SSG is dummy powerful

silk acorn
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It does stagger demons easily too

spice socket
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Well not dummy but it is relatively powerful

gray tapir
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mastered ssg is unfair lmao

gilded cipher
gray tapir
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you can save ammo while also doing way more damage

jolly geyser
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SSG is great

spice socket
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You can duo the game with siege mode gauss and ssg

halcyon bear
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Yeah it definitely is. To the point I sometimes avoid using it altogether

gray tapir
jolly geyser
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I mostly used three weapons the whole game
Rocket Launcher, Super Shotgun and Gauss Cannon

gray tapir
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same with me

gilded cipher
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Same

halcyon bear
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Orginally I did but I swap now constantly as a habit plus plasma stun is useful and fun

jolly geyser
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I didn't use chainsaw most of the game for ammo too

gray tapir
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but i lightly dabbled in some HAR
and plasma rifle/chaingun if i felt like messing around

spice socket
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The gauss cannon and super shotgun are the sole reasons why hell fears the slayer

jolly geyser
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Lmao

silk acorn
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Plasma rifle stun shot isn't bad

gray tapir
silk acorn
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7 in total?

gray tapir
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yeah

jolly geyser
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yeah ikr

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But i barely used it anyways

gray tapir
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you could chainsaw a boh and still have enough for like 2 more imps

spice socket
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Using the chainsaw on bigger demons use like 3 pips of fuel

gray tapir
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and each fuel pickup brought back 3

jolly geyser
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I instead looked for ammo

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in the map

silk acorn
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i use the chainsaw very often

gray tapir
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for the fodder it was 1
heavies 3
boh's and mancubi 5

spice socket
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And even still you can get mad ammo with 7 pips against imps

halcyon bear
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I'm one of those people that never use the bfg because im always trying to save it for something insane and then I forget to use it altogether

teal lichen
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hello there

gray tapir
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i used the chainsaw when i either need ammo or needed to get rid of a troublesome demon quickly

jolly geyser
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hello

gray tapir
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i used the bfg pretty often, especially on nightmare

jolly geyser
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Well i was afraid of losing it's ammo before encountering a boss fight

gray tapir
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if i felt overwhelmed i always just fired a bfg shot and problem solved

jolly geyser
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and i didn't know where are bosses at that time

gray tapir
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the only boss fights are in lazarus, the necroplis and argent d'nur

halcyon bear
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That would be its main purpose for sure

silk acorn
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Cyberdemon, Hell Knights, Spider Mastermind

gray tapir
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hell guards

jolly geyser
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Hell Knights aren't an issue

silk acorn
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Yeah, that

gray tapir
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hell knights are not a boss
and are in fact extremely common in the later part of the game

jolly geyser
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yeah

silk acorn
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I know, i was supposed to say hell guards ^^

jolly geyser
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oh ok

gray tapir
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your trusty siege mode obliterates hell knights lol

silk acorn
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None of the bosses seem inherently difficult

jolly geyser
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Ikr it's amazing

silk acorn
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But i am playing on hurt me plenty, so..

jolly geyser
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I really want to replay Doom 2016 so bad but i need to learn some tweaking

gray tapir
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it's funny just watching them realise
"NO my arm is gone, guess i'll just fall and die"

gilded cipher
halcyon bear
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Always been a doom issue lol

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Steam rolling bosses

silk acorn
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What about eternal's bosses?

gray tapir
gilded cipher
halcyon bear
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I honestly only cared about imps on nightmare

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Bosses are straightforward

gray tapir
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imps were annoying AF in 2016

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they always threw fireballs at the worst moments

jolly geyser
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^

halcyon bear
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Snipers ... imp snipers hahaha

gray tapir
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like i'm about to go gk for some health
nope an imp throws a fireball there's the end of me

jolly geyser
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Snipers were my main target everytime

silk acorn
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And they were hard to get a hit on

gray tapir
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exactly

silk acorn
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Since they are so nimble

gray tapir
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they always run or climb on walls

jolly geyser
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I leave imps and go for Hell Razers instead

gray tapir
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imps, despite being so weak were easily some of the biggest challenges when paired with strong demons