Hi, idk why but i play the game before, uninstall and now i want to replay but when i try to launch on steam a blue windows open for like 0.5 seconde close and the game dont launch
#doom-2016
lucid surge
Hi slayers, only need the 2 online trophies. I ask for assistance please 👽
Username: lourens_jvr
I'm currently online and will help in return
I'm up for it bro..
I also need it and will help in return
Username: lourens_jvr
frosty juniper
I'm up for it bro..
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velvet pelican
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Could you add me too, my psn is animefanj
frosty juniper
Could you add me too, my psn is animefanj
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lucid surge
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I added you aswell
sleek tangle
Hi, idk why but i play the game before, uninstall and now i want to replay but w...
Please help
hollow belfry
does anybody know why doom 2016 src still isn't out despite it being a decade old?
noble moat
does anybody know why doom 2016 src still isn't out despite it being a decade ol...
Src?
hollow belfry
source
noble moat
I mean…..most games don’t give that out
hollow belfry
doom did so for the first 3 games
and one of the first one games to do so (doom 1993 src seems to be released on dec 23 1997
noble moat
Yes but this isn’t back in the day anymore. Source code is way more closely guarded now.
And it was common back then for developers to share engines and source and more because it was a race for innovation and making the dev world a better place
halcyon herald
Can you find a match rn?
I think I mightve ignored people on accident, would that break the queue?
edgy kindle
Hello
cosmic iron
it was awesome
Hell yeah! What was your favorite level and or like setpiece?
Mine was the entirety of Lazarus Labs
uncut oyster
hell yeah! whatcha thunk?
versed sorrel
topaz hemlock
Is it bad that I cant beat the Cyberdemon's second phase?
obsidian dirge
Is it bad that I cant beat the Cyberdemon's second phase?
No, it's definitely harder than the first one. Keep going, you'll get it! 🙂
topaz hemlock
No, it's definitely harder than the first one. Keep going, you'll get it! 🙂
Thx I keep trying and almost defeated him once but I didnt pay attention to my health.
obsidian dirge
Thx I keep trying and almost defeated him once but I didnt pay attention to my h...
what are you struggling with the most if you could pinpoint it?
topaz hemlock
I wasted my ammo for the BFG in the first round and dont have the firepower in the second.
I also ignored the signs to stock up on ammo.
obsidian dirge
Gotcha. When I get home later I can try to do a video to see if it helps if you want? I have an old one for the first phase where you can save your bfg
topaz hemlock
Sure
obsidian dirge
I appreciate this
ofc, keep me posted
obsidian dirge
I appreciate this
Wanna add, if you can dodge his projectiles and just keep shooting him nonstop in the second phase he tends to chill on his attacks
keen mist
Just started it
sonic stratus
Is it bad that I cant beat the Cyberdemon's second phase?
nah he's tough
what attacks are usually killing you?
rancid glacier
Second phase is hard, I struggled my first playthrough on it
halcyon herald
Bro no one to help me?
Idk how
tough wasp
Doom 2016 100% achivements going to be a lot painful for me, Multiplayer are straight sweats
tough wasp
Bro no one to help me?
What u want I might able help
sleek tangle
What u want I might able help
When I try to launch the game on steam a blue windows open for 0.5 sec and close and the game don't start
tough wasp
When I try to launch the game on steam a blue windows open for 0.5 sec and close...
I think ur PC might be bad not to offend
sleek tangle
I already play before with no problem, but when I reinstall the game this problem appear idk why
tough wasp
Oh-
sleek tangle
I think ur PC might be bad not to offend
Honnestly not that bad, he run most of game with minimum 60fps for the biggest
Srry for my bad english
tough wasp
Try verify the ignerity files on steam propoteries?
sleek tangle
Already did, I update all drivers to..
I try to find a solution on Google, other guys already have the same problem but can't find how to do
tough wasp
Try run it as administrator?
Go to inside doom 2016's file right click doom.exe then press run it as administrator it works prob
@sleek tangle that's all I know I'm sorry if it doesn't work
sleek tangle
Go to inside doom 2016's file right click doom.exe then press run it as administ...
I will try when I go back home, thks for trying to help me
tough wasp
Np
hardy burrow
My game glitched when i almost got the bfg 9000 , then it didn't appear, now what do I do
obsidian dirge
My game glitched when i almost got the bfg 9000 , then it didn't appear, now wha...
reload checkpoint
hardy burrow
Okay
hardy burrow
Nah leave it I beat doom 2016 without the bfg
topaz hemlock
Nah leave it I beat doom 2016 without the bfg
If you do that you will break the game. The ending has it where defeating the final boss you NEED the BFG9000
hardy burrow
If you do that you will break the game. The ending has it where defeating the fi...
It was a cutscene bro
hardy burrow
Itndient for me
obsidian dirge
I've done it several times, it doesn't and you don't need it
shadow escarp
im playing doom 2016 for the first time after beating doom eternal
brave cloak
remember, dash is crouch now
shadow escarp
remember, dash is crouch now
for me crouch is c and dash was shift tho?
shadow escarp
-# I’m a console player so-
what console has a c button?
brave cloak
dash is a for me in both games
I thought you had the same dash button
shadow escarp
dash is a for me in both games
I thought you had the same dash button
your good
brave cloak
oki
lost helm
you can get weapons early and upgrades
shadow escarp
you can get weapons early and upgrades
i think i did get the plasma rifle early
shadow escarp
ive heard that remote detonation is good in doom 2016 why is that?
shadow escarp
also im in the fourth level and the mod drone started flying away that was very rude
brave cloak
What’s the level name?
shadow escarp
argent facility
brave cloak
Ah..yeah, it does that
tough wasp
Hey guys
I never noticed this but why pressing/holding shift key slows you down instead of making you run faster??
lost helm
its like that in the classics too
sand thorn
tough wasp
How do I get "On track" achivement
rigid vale
Wsg
neon narwhal
ive heard that remote detonation is good in doom 2016 why is that?
It does a lot more damage for your rocket
true laurel
i am the only guy who feels empty the doom 2016 after pass it?
delicate quarry
fringe minnow
i am the only guy who feels empty the doom 2016 after pass it?
i have 95 hours by now
and i'm not stopping that soon
old flume
i need help for archivements multiplayer on steam, sorry for my english i speak spanish
true laurel
i need help for archivements multiplayer on steam, sorry for my english i speak ...
con que logro?
cual en especifico
old flume
cual en especifico
todos literal, son como 20 logros de steam del multijugador de doom
wild nova
Please English so everyone can understand each other and everyone could benefit 🙂
old flume
i need people for play multiplayer to do 20 archivements steam
tough wasp
i have 95 hours by now
Hey nice i have 85 hours
tough wasp
i need people for play multiplayer to do 20 archivements steam
İf you are PC player sure i can play
coral mirage
does anyone know why my fps just completely tanks whenever i open up any menus? happens with the pause menu, the map overlay, codex, runes, everything
weak galleon
Hi everyone, I just finished the dark ages (twice actually) and came back to 2016 after many years (planning to play eternal as well after). But no dodge or block is hard..although the slayer is fast, but the deamons shoot fireballs at me, and if I am in close range it's almost a definite hit..
potent mountain
gotta just keep moving and jumping. no time to stop
torpid grotto
but please stay aware of surroundings
weak galleon
Thx guys. Yeah..can't stop even for 1 second
torpid grotto
what are you playing on? difficulty
weak galleon
Ultra violence
torpid grotto
Yeha i struggled on that as well. What level are you on?
weak galleon
I noticed that I didn't maxed out the combat points after a chapter, remind me how that works?
weak galleon
Yeha i struggled on that as well. What level are you on?
Just finished the foundry (3)
torpid grotto
I noticed that I didn't maxed out the combat points after a chapter, remind me h...
beating up demons and i BELIEVE secrest
torpid grotto
Just finished the foundry (3)
Nice! The demons are really fast. Imps seem to be the ones with the most speed for me at least
weak galleon
beating up demons and i BELIEVE secrest
I found all secrets but still one of the circles is the combat section was not complete.. should I do this chapter again?
Is it critical?
I want to max out everything
torpid grotto
if you want to max out everything, do it again. Weapon points are nice
weak galleon
if you want to max out everything, do it again. Weapon points are nice
Yeah that's probably best.
I am not in a hurry. Need to git gud
torpid grotto
real
weak galleon
I kinda want to upgrade the pistol even if it's trash LOL
Its good for the lesser deamons
torpid grotto
mhm. also doesn't use ammo
potent mountain
(its doodoo)
coral mirage
does anyone know why my fps just completely tanks whenever i open up any menus? ...
update to this
it's ONLY when i move my mouse in menus
i don't even know how this happens
loud mesa
This game is the only game that managed to make the cyberdemon scary among the modern trilogy
jovial linden
I was very disappointed to see that 2016 isn't in the gamepass
and 20€ on steam
however eneba saved me it's only 4€ there
versed ridge
guys tips for the game
versed ridge
cyberdemon
versed ridge
thank u soo much
obsidian dirge
thank u soo much
yeah if you have more questions you can ask in here
versed ridge
holy shi i killed him
versed ridge
yeah if you have more questions you can ask in here
thankkk so much bro it really helps hehe
keen depot
Hell yeah! What was your favorite level and or like setpiece?
i liked going to hell
the entire design is beautiful i have so many captures from cool statues and such
i think i will replay it and take more in & try to get trophies
keen depot
holy shi i killed him
bet it felt so good!!!! 💯
obsidian dirge
holy shi i killed him
Great job!!
cold root
to people that were around when the game first came out: how different was the multiplayer compared to it is now?
I know it used to have something called hack modules
versed ridge
i think i will replay it and take more in & try to get trophies
yeeeeeeeh
it felt super good
tough wasp
does anyone know why my fps just completely tanks whenever i open up any menus? ...
İ know actually
İdk why happens but i only know the solution
İ personally turn off Anti aliasing and v sync
true spade
I hear this game is pretty good
torpid atlas
swift bear
You bet your ass it is
burnt badger
Yeah it's not bad 
stable cave
Platinumed on PS4 and halfawy on PC
lyric musk
anyone else here attempting Ultra-Nightmare?
true spade
Jack you’re in the wrong server
full lance
No no no, I'm in the right server
maiden stirrup
Pretty good
tender shadow
Cool. Update of channels
true spade
This isn’t wolfenstein, or is it?
burnt badger
@lyric musk Yes. Well not attempting, I've completed it many times
full lance
I think slaying demons is always right, no matter if day or night
silver rune
Its the right thing to do
elder meadow
I've only completed it 2 times out of god knows how many attempts
That's just me being trash though
sweet solar
i can't even beat the first level on UN lol
im terrible, i'm doing a run on UV though
native grove
The earlier levels are the hardest on UN, you just gotta keep tryin and you'll get it
Theres plenty of skips too if you wanna cheat it a bit
native grove
You gotta 
sweet solar
native grove
First level ain't too long too, so dying and having to reset doesn't feel as bad
sweet solar
im probably gonna practice my skills in prep for DE
its way harder from what i've seen
native grove
I think actually, with a skip you only have to do the first arena, after that you can just walk past the other demons and jump over a trigger for the last fight
Also, I recommend you try the first level on just nightmare first to prepare for UN
burnt badger
Yeah in the first level you can just run by loads of stuff, there's not many lock-downs 
native grove
indeed
scarlet gorgeBOT
Indeed!
sweet solar
that revenant emote reminds me of the photo of the revenant with the caption "the ride never ends"
burnt badger
I don't know that But this is my most used emote in here
native grove
I gotta see that picture now
sweet solar
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/602076215582392339/671695033669517322/IMG_20200118_110404.jpg this one
native grove
Oh yeee
sweet solar
its so hard to find on google lol
solemn shuttle
sweet solar
i had to look through my phone to get it
nocturne basin
revenant is lucky, he can open his jaw pretty wide, my jaw can't!
sweet solar
i love that mod
native grove
Perfect for a shotgun
true spade
Hows the chainsaw soky?
native grove
In doom 2016? Godly
nocturne basin
revenant is one of my favourite part in Claycat https://slayersclub.bethesda.net/en/media#2qO4iX2DawkdPAGV6Q1Gae
true spade
Oh wrong chat, meant for doom 3
sweet solar
the revenant is such a "doom" enemy though
native grove
ah
ruby crown
doot
elder meadow
i can't get past foundryy
ruby crown
have you tried not falling in lava
sweet solar
leaden marten
plank samuel hayden
true spade
Imagine that sammy taking your crucible
elder meadow
itd be impossible to take him seriously as a character
crystal orbit
Yeah his final design was perfect
true spade
He looks like hes wearing sandals
burnt badger
Plankuel Hayden
burnt badger
I like how his face has an automap
elder meadow
there's no way that samuel hayden design would've survived the hell expedition
crystal orbit
Kinda looks like what I might expect if someone for some reason made a kids version parody
native grove
He would survive by folding himself flat so the demons dont see him
crystal orbit
i am not a threat, please move aside
please do not step on me sir
native grove
burnt badger
Folds into a deck-chair for a Hell Knight to chill out on
nocturne yarrow
Plank Samuel Hayden reminds me of roomba Samuel Hayden
crystal orbit
excuse me sir my carry weight is not listed to support more than 400kg
burnt badger
@nocturne yarrow There's an image / video for that? Please let me see
nocturne basin
Yeah I liked Samuel's final design
nocturne yarrow
I can’t embed the link
elder meadow
you mean this? https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/596539806041767962/671717571665461269/IMG_20200128_140522.jpg
burnt badger
Welcome, I'm Dr. Roomba Hayden. I'm the janitor of this facility.
I believe we can work together to clean this facility in a way that benefits us both.
karmic flax
Oh my god
elder meadow
just wanna clarify i didn't make this image though
burnt badger
Interestingly though in that exact area of the game, there's an information panel that has a model of Samuel on as a helper robot or something like that
elder meadow
i swear in that area of the game sometimes the possessed are bugged and are able to be glory killed even when they aren't staggered and have a permanent glow
if this is where I think it is
burnt badger
It's in ARC, just before the gore nest fight that precedes Samuel's office
And yeah I think I've seen possessed do that before
elder meadow
I feel like it should've just been part of the game by default by being able to insta gk possessed
burnt badger
Well you kind of can if you're fast with melee
But if they GK in just one melee it would be less threatening I guess
crystal orbit
ARC sometimes bugs for me, usually in arcade mode. Seems to be when I kill everything too quickly and some of the enemies in that room notably a few soldiers and the hell knight don’t spawn, so the door remains locked
burnt badger
Yeah I've heard that before too
elder meadow
That happened to me two days ago when I was doing UNM in vega core on the part where you break the four cooling things
crystal orbit
Had that one happen a few times too
burnt badger
Yeah that area is notorious for it, unfortunately
elder meadow
Had to task manager the game and do the whole fight again
crystal orbit
Less punishing in arcade but yikes, near the end of the ultra nightmare run that’s gotta hurt
elder meadow
If you're on console/switch yikes
burnt badger
Supposedly if you take out three of the filters, clear all enemies, then damage the last filter, you shouldn't have the problem
It will either finish the area or give you one Baron to finish with
However you can actually jump the exit fence, if you gauss jump off the jump pad near it
Kinda tricky to control, but it can be done
crystal orbit
I always seemed to get that problem when I instantly broke all the filters and just went to town on the demons. Never if I destroyed them in intervals
burnt badger
Yeah that's the thought, that breaking all the filters too fast can glitch the spawns
crystal orbit
Again seems like a similar cause to the one in the ARC, doing everything too quickly
I wonder how many speedruns it’s ended
elder meadow
Would you guys consider using task manager to reset to a checkpoint in cases where you just get stuck in UNM cheating
burnt badger
100% speedrunners I've seen all know the fence jump trick, since they're experienced enough
And any% speedruns have skipped that room for a long time, I think
And no, if you get stuck I don't see a problem with force quitting.
crystal orbit
Been a while since I’ve watched a full 100% speedrun, might have to rewatch byte me’s soon
Yeah, it’s not a death so I see no problem with it
burnt badger
I actually thought I was soft-locked once, so force quit. Turns out later after seeing someone else in the same area, there was an AFK imp hanging on a wall in a hard to see area I missed
elder meadow
Gotta confess that sometimes I've used task manager when I'm about to fall to my death in a platforming section
burnt badger
But anyway, because I died in Res Ops earlier in the run and restarted from there, it decided to put Res Ops as my checkpoint, not Titan's Realm
So these days if I die in UN, I don't restart from the death screen, I quit and create a new save
Well in terms of the morality of that, it's up to personal preference
crystal orbit
I am all too familiar with the UAC level
burnt badger
Sometimes you can fall from a ledge grab that didn't work when it was supposed to, so
elder meadow
There won't be many falling deaths in UNM in eternal I think
burnt badger
I take the majority of jumps slowly and carefully in UN just to try and avoid problems
crystal orbit
Earlier today on the first gore nest in res ops I jumped onto the box and tried to jump away from an imps fireball and just vibrated for a second before I was incinerated
First time I’ve ever had it happen
elder meadow
I had the most bs death in arc grabbing the bfg a few months ago which resulted in me straight up uninstalling game
My memory is fuzzy but I think somehow I grabbed the bfg, the whole animation with the elevator played but I didn't actually move with the elevator
So I ended up suspended in the air and died from falling even though the lasers were gone
crystal orbit
Look on the bright side at least you’ve never died to a possessed
elder meadow
i have....
burnt badger
Yeah I had someone have pretty much the same problem
elder meadow
hold on I found out what actually happened by looking in a dm
burnt badger
After the BFG inspection animation finished, it sent them back up to where the BFG was, and then they died from falling damage
elder meadow
yeah that's what happened to me
burnt badger
This person has had plenty of weird falling glitches too
elder meadow
it's funny, when I did my first two playthroughs of doom 2016 (uv then nightmare) and ended up putting in like 34 hours, I never saw any glitches
but as I put in like 300 more hours of just trying to do ultra nightmare, I've seen so many glitches
burnt badger
Like in Tower, they fell through the lightning kind of things nearer the top, where those imps snipe from long range. They also fell through the rising rocks after the dual summoner area in kadingir. And finally, they even fell through the crusher in titan's realm
And yeah as the game has gone on in time, more glitches seem to have appeared
elder meadow
it's to be expected, no game is entirely glitchless
burnt badger
yeah but I feel like some glitches may even have developed through updates
elder meadow
actually the worst thing happened to me a few months ago where my game crashed and I lost all of my progress in singleplayer
cloud haven
oof
nocturne basin
oh yeah when I watched doom 2016 speedrun, I didnt know you can get up top floor instead of using lift!
elder meadow
i have a love-hate relationship with doom 2016 tbh
burnt badger
Like at the end of Foundry, everything was fine, then after an update at some point, most of the time Olivia is like a mime-artist because the animation on the window doesn't initiate
nocturne basin
I have love-only relationship with 2016 😄
elder meadow
my love for doom 2016 overwhelms the few problems i've had with it though
nocturne basin
Mmm
burnt badger
And then for some reason the shutdown panel for VEGA just stopped playing out most times too. And I think that was even after that Razer Chroma update or whatever it was. So how the hell that works I don't know, but I never saw it happen before for me or anyone else
Since back in July 2018 someone pointed out that the Doomguy's face appears on that panel really briefly, so I made a video of it
Then sometime later that year or maybe the start of 2019, I hardly ever get the animation there anymore
nocturne basin
Oh yeah, you are right, I have few problems with glory kill, you got out of bound map few times
I laughed off and damnit
burnt badger
Yeah that can happen too, speedrunners actually use that sometimes to go out of bounds deliberately
nocturne basin
he he he
elder meadow
recently in foundry, the area where you get the rocket launcher early I got stuck inside of the pipes and was unable to attack any of the demons outside
cloud haven
oof
elder meadow
i tried to use micromissiles to stagger a possessed that was walking towards me to get back in bounds and ended up exploding myself
burnt badger
Oh yeah, I never GK the possessed down there, it's so easy to get yeeted into the pipes
cloud haven
damn
elder meadow
that was on an ultra nightmare run too
cloud haven
oof
nocturne basin
ouch
cloud haven
I am so sorry man
elder meadow
it's alright
cloud haven
that is awful
nocturne basin
I guess you have try again from start
elder meadow
nah I ended up finishing that attempt
nocturne basin
good
cloud haven
huh
nocturne basin
I thought UN don't do save, only one life right?
cloud haven
yes
elder meadow
yeah
nocturne basin
I guess I can't do lol
elder meadow
you have to restart from the first level every time you die
burnt badger
Yes, but if you force quit it will send you back to the checkpoint sometimes
nocturne basin
Yeah
burnt badger
So for game breaking bugs, you have a chance sometimes to continue your run
cloud haven
*sometimes
nocturne basin
oh i see
elder meadow
task manager is way more reliable
nocturne basin
REALLY? lol
burnt badger
I've force quit so rarely I've not tried alt+f4 vs end task
I just know, as I said earlier, that once I got sent back to Res Ops because I restarted from the death screen there
So I ensure now if I die, I always create a new save so that it hopefully overwrites anything existing
elder meadow
i think im gonna do a un run again soon
the only reason I failed so many times is because I wasn't fully focused and half the time I was playing I had some podcast or video playing and the game half-almost entirely muted
at the same time though i want to play doom 3 and 64 since I haven't completed either of them
eternal anvil
my last Ultra nightmare run i got the spider-mastermind down to a fucking sliver of health and then it all of a sudden did a 180 and kept turning around and i was trapped in the random undodgeable lasers and died
cinder juniper
i cant believe that they made 2016 doom games
elder meadow
they really wanted to outdo bethesda making 76 fallout games
noble moat
Doom 666 was my favorite, followed by doom 1879
elder meadow
doom 2005 was awful
noble moat
Can confirm
elder meadow
anyways fun fact: you don't actually need to play all the way up to kadingir sanctum and finish it on nightmare to unlock ultra-nightmare, you can just load it up it in arcade and finish it there
noble moat
Good thing it was free if u owned 232, 290, and 2000
Nah thats cheating.. beat it all on nightmare
elder meadow
im saying this more for people who are maybe switching platforms and have already completed nightmare there
noble moat
You can never have enough nightmares
elder meadow
because honestly you really shouldn't jump into unm without having beat the game first on nightmare
noble moat
I play nightmare for fun and i still havent beaten UN
Definitely my goal before getting eternal
But rn I’m sick af so UN run is on hold
elder meadow
get well soon
noble moat
Thx
vocal stratus
i did!
noble moat
U got well?
elder meadow
no I think he's saying he went into ultra-nightmare before having finished a full run on nightmare
noble moat
I’m just joking around
vocal stratus
it was brutal and awesome...
past delta
i got stuck on first level on nightmare don't hate on a noob lol , i think ultra violence is a fine balance for me
noble moat
No hate for any slayer, not everyone is good at harder difficulties. Thats why there are 5 to choose from
faint quest
^^ We joke about the lower modes being for f i l t h y casuals but really just play however feels best to you, be it HmP or UN
elder meadow
Why tf is the community who literally just wants to rip demons in half endlessly...the most wholesome one...
faint quest
we focus all our anger on the demons
prisma quartz
Also, one way of playing may not work for you. Try another!
When Doom 2016 dropped, I got the PS4 version as I prefer playing games on my couch. I'm normally decent at console FPS games, but I was getting utterly destroyed and it took me forever to get through the game. I LIKED the game, but couldn't figure out why I was having so much trouble. A year and a half, I picked up the PC version on deep discount in the Steam Summer Sale. I absolutely blew through the game; arenas that would take me days to clear on PS4 got cleared the first time around on PC.
That's why I preordered Doom Eternal on PC. 🙂
noble moat
I first played on the switch. And beat it on UN, hence why I’m getting eternal on switch and doing nightmare too ‘
noble moat
I hate gyro
It’s terrible
I dont play any fps games on the switch with gyro. Gyro is soooo baddddd
elder meadow
well i hope you're willing to wait extra long to play eternal on the switch
One of my pals can achieve PC-tier reflexes with gyro
noble moat
I just amp up the sensitivity
And use the Joycon sticks
It’s not that long a wait for eternal on switch. And besides its not like i have much of a choice. I’m not fortunate enough to own multiple systems
prisma quartz
Heh, if I traveled more I'd definitely invest in a Switch.
elder meadow
I can't beat doom without dying infinite times on any controller
Controller and FPS just ain't for me
i haven't touched a controller since my childhood after getting a pc
craggy rune
Controllers and twitch shooters like DOOM just... shouldn't
noble moat
🤷♂️ beat Nightmare handheld mode on switch. Doesn’t seem like a problem to me
tawny jay
now do ultra nightmare
noble moat
I made it to the first level of hell and got stuck on nothing while running
Instantly died
burnt badger
I did UN with a controller, and I basically never play shooters on a controller
But I was carried by having done UN on KB/M many times, so I learned all the cheese tactics 
elder meadow
I play on PS4 but that’s because I’ve grown up playing console since the first gen
limber mist
Is it just me or is the upgrade challenge for RGR absolute bullshit
burnt badger
How so?
It'll upgrade automatically with megahealth or armour from cells
And if not, just get to full armour, then damage yourself slightly before picking up some shards
limber mist
The "get to full armor" part isn't exactly easy on Nightmare
burnt badger
If you have equipment power mastered, you can use the siphon grenade to farm armour from enemies too, especially a group of possessed hanging around
elder meadow
you can cheese it by slightly damaging yourself and picking up armor pieces/siphoning from possessed
burnt badger
Indeed
scarlet gorgeBOT
Indeed!
burnt badger
One of my favourites is in Titan's Realm
limber mist
I think I'll do Lazarus Labs, actually
Because 1) there's a megasphere very early on
burnt badger
If you take armour from the cell in the toxic area, you can just dip in the toxic for 1 hit, and then pick up a shard
limber mist
and 2) I fucking forgot to actually grab the siphon grenade
limber mist
Streaming my efforts to farm and then some
Going through nightmare campaign for shits and giggles, really
elder meadow
equipment power can be done as soon as you get the hologram since you can just jump on ledges and spam press while you're climbing them
although in hayden's office you can just spam it infinitely
burnt badger
Indeed, or just use holograms as normal since they work well
limber mist
4/5 cells on armor is 150, right?
eternal anvil
125 i think?
burnt badger
Yeah 125, 150 is max
eternal anvil
*without megahealth
burnt badger
(well beyond picking up a mega)
elder meadow
if you're using a keyboard, F1
solid shadow
I've been trying to figure that out for 3 years lmao
Thank you
solid shadow
I typically don't use 'nades at all.
I just get the super shotgun and curbstomp everything
fleet schooner
Doom on the switch is a horrible experience compared to other platforms. The input lag is crazy. Doing nightmare on it sounds scary xD.
Got a slow motion vid of the input lag if anyone wants proof
nocturne basin
my fav levels are all Hell levels
solid shadow
DOOM is bliss on PC.
Just pure bliss.
true spade
I play on nightmare 😳
solid shadow
I'm curious
Do you guys play with classic view models, or the default?
elder meadow
classic viewmodels
eternal anvil
Default
true spade
Both
solid shadow
I do classic personally.
burnt badger
@fleet schooner Well considering it runs at half the frame rate, that's to be expected. If it goes beyond that, then it's a shame
true spade
I mean from what i played there’s no obvious delay unlike stadia
eternal anvil
Yeah my only issue with the switch port is the fuzzy graphics, which I get are necessary to be able to fit the whole game on the switch but they give me a headache
magic phoenix
i'd like to bring up that doomslayer is essentially someone's oc in a free for all dnd campaign
lol
noble moat
Graphics seem more than adequate for me. And I don’t notice any input lag 🤷♂️ everyone onto their own. I don’t expect 4k 60fps+ pc players to play on the switch
fleet schooner
There is input lag I'll show it in showroom
noble moat
Not saying there isnt any. Just. Saying there is non ive noticed/ doesn’t hinder the game
fleet schooner
Yeah, it's still very much an enjoyable experience but it's defenitely noticable for me.
noble moat
U play on pc yes?
fleet schooner
yeah
and switch
that's a pretty bad comparision
input lag is noticable no matter the platfom
platform*
noble moat
You are also wireless. Wireless mode has more input lag than handheld
true spade
Maybe its cause i use pro controller?
noble moat
Oddly enough my life isnt in slow motion so i dont notice input lag
fleet schooner
I can show you both handheld and pro controller too if you want
noble moat
Personally dont care. Even if i see it i still play the same
I never denied the existence of input lag. Just said i never noticed it/ never bothered me
fleet schooner
I just showed off how much input lag there is to show you that there is a noticable difference between the platforms.
I still admire panic button for porting it to begin with though. It really is amazing to able to play doom on the go.
noble moat
Ah
burnt badger
Well the only way to really compare is to do other versions and measure the time difference
fleet schooner
I can cap my pc to 30 fps and play with the joy con wireless there aswell and record if you want to
burnt badger
You could, but in my experience PC has superior latency anyway
My point more is if compared to the other consoles it's just the latency difference between 60 FPS and 30 FPS, then it's expected
If it's more then yeah it's got bad latency
But generally consoles have more latency than PC even at the same frame rates, for whatever reason they have more processing
Still if it looks significantly slower than PC with a 30 FPS v-sync then yeah it's not good
fleet schooner
Yup
burnt badger
Just after the vacuum rune trial, you go into a hallway with hanging gore and a pentagram on the floor, and there's a dead guard with it there
It's hard to miss it
hushed vault
I still wish 2016 had an actual medium difficulty
fleet schooner
Hurt me plenty is medium
long hazel
@fleet schooner he talked about this yesterday
he finds UV and lower too easy, but NM and UNM too hard
fleet schooner
@long hazel Ok
hushed vault
I think Steam 2016 should have a prompt appear when you press Play that asks you to start directly in either Campaign, MP, or SnapMap mode
instead of having to start in Campaign and then having to restart in MP or SnapMap
burnt badger
I didn't find the jump from UV to NM that bad. When I went to UN from HMP in my first playthrough though... that was madness
burnt badger
Honestly I think it's just learning the game properly
I mean it's like the original DOOM, UV is easy, and NM is on a different scale
In fact I'd say much more of a jump than 2016
elder meadow
I feel like enemies start turning into bullet sponges that one-shot me
But I'm playing UV right now and there's not much of a challenge
burnt badger
You can't play the original on NM without knowing all the maps properly. Kinda the same with 2016
Nah 2016 enemies have the same health whatever difficulty
But yes you take more damage, enemies are more accurate and aggressive, and health and armour pickups give less HP
burnt badger
Yeah imps are the bastards of nightmare difficulty
elder meadow
Not like I can switch to nightmare anyways
I'll finish this run and see what I can do
burnt badger
Them and soldiers make the start of the game pretty tricky. But as you gain upgrades, the game gets considerably easier
elder meadow
Yeah that's part of the problem I think
I wish I could switch my full save from UV to NM
burnt badger
Yeah I'd advise to keep with UV anyway, when you get used to it things might get easier in NM
elder meadow
So I could ramp up the difficulty but only as Endgame+
What's the difference between Nightmare and UN other than the hardcore thing
None afaik
burnt badger
@elder meadow Well you kinda can, if it works properly
burnt badger
If you play arcade mode on nightmare, your most recent save might well change difficulty to nightmare too
prisma summit
How's the multiplayer population doin for this game? Can you still find a match relatively quickly?
burnt badger
it's a common glitch with the game. But I can't say it will work for sure.
burnt badger
@elder meadow Yeah no change between NM and UN except the permadeath, and only being able to save and quit at the end of each level
prisma summit
Cool, thanks.
glass fox
Isn't it great that there is going to be no bullshit microtransaction nonsense in doom eternal?
elder meadow
It isn't because it's supposed to be the standard practice to not put money-above-consumers bullshit in games
tawny jay
yea but here's the thing, it's not standard practice tho. not with the way the game industry is in right now
long hazel
when not having microtransactions is a selling point
crystal orbit
I feel like they’re going to bring out new cosmetics and stuff but lock them behind challenges you have to complete which I’m down for
long hazel
sort of like the 2016 MP
crystal orbit
Nah I mean like for example you beat the game on ultra nightmare you get a really special Slayer skin
noble moat
@fleet schooner I see what you mean now. It seems that the switch wireless mode has lots more latency than handheld
elder meadow
Technically I should have my 2 most used weapons on my mouse buttons since I don't need to stop moving to hit them right?
I meant to say take my fingers off the movement keys
noble moat
2 most used or 2 most important sounds about right.
I know Jimmy_Bacon said one of those will be reserved to dash
On his setup*
Don’t remember what he said his other button would be
elder meadow
Ok so I should put shotgun on one right?
Bc it's the most used/most needed in a jam?
And also what's the deal with the "next/previous equipment?"
I thought u could bind one grenade to a key and another to another key?
tawny jay
honestly i know most people don't use it but i just use the weapon wheel
elder meadow
@noble moat
burnt badger
No, unfortunately they didn't give separate equipment selection binds
noble moat
Yeah it’s 1 button to switch grenade types
elder meadow
Is there a use for switch weapon mod?
noble moat
Hmm, shotgun, super shotgun, rpg, or plasma rifle would be the best bets imo to use there. Reason being
Shotgun has thst stick grenade perfect for breaking special parts.
Super shotgun has meat hooks, u can swap to it and easily hook away or towards enemies
Rpg is the heavy hitter/ crown control. Granted grenades might be able to do thst too
Also plasma rifle seems much more useful for Shields. However not sure how often shield type enemies will appear
There should be a button that allows for switching of weapon mods yes. But I’m not sure how often you would be switching mods. Since this time around all the mods seem pretty balanced, so it would be more so for preference
elder meadow
I got it: switch grenade type is wheel up, switch mod is wheel down
noble moat
Ah even easier then
noble moat
Hmmmmm in doom 2016?
elder meadow
Yea
noble moat
If you max out the micro missiles, it lets you shoot infinite micro missiles until u run out of ammo
Which is pretty helpful. Sure chaingun is super good, but u don’t really want to stay in place for very long shooting it
elder meadow
chaingun is kinda mediocre until you get mobile turret
noble moat
Which again sure it shreds, but vs multiple enemies leaves you vulnerable
elder meadow
yeah I use it to quickly take down one single target
Ok so I have shotgun on mouse 4 and plasma rifle on q
Thoughts for R?
tawny jay
Run 🙃
elder meadow
R = RPG
F = Shotgun
V = SuperShotgun
X = Gauss
C = HAR
Z = Plasma
B = Minigun
this is the setup I use, I bound mouse4 to melee/glory kill
also fun fact if you bind your jump to scroll wheel up you jump slightly higher
Wtf? Lol
Maybe then I won't miss the bloody ledges and fall 2 levels or into a kill zone
median geode
I've just got a gaming PC for the first time in over 10 years, installed doom 2016 (i played it on ps4 a few years ago), and damn I am having a heap of fun with it all over again
noble moat
Oh yeah when u scrol.. it inputs jumps rapidly, giving the slightly higher jump, I remember reading about that
burnt badger
Yeah the scroll jump thing is big for speed runners
I kinda have set weapons on my mouse buttons, but I'm not sure why
Pretty sure RL is the thumb one because it was an important weapon in Q3
Then I had up and down dpi for some reason to MG and BFG. I guess since in Q3 they're not very important, and on the MX518 those buttons weren't placed so well
I normally have grenades on the forwards thumb button, or grenade launcher for games that don't
Oh and now I have an extra button from the G402 I use that for melee
Honestly though I feel like I should rework this setup. I kinda feel like dash would be very useful on a mouse button for Eternal, to ensure I don't have to reduce keyboard inputs to use it
Like if you're moving, it'll be kinda hard to switch weapons and use dash in any direction quickly
violet hinge
I use my two main extra mouse buttons for the SSG and RL, Q for Gauss, R for Plasma, 1 for Combat Shotty, 2 for HAR
I'm swapping a few binds so I can get used to the Doom Eternal binds before it releases
burnt badger
yeah that's decent for 2016, easy to rotate SSG / RL / Gauss
I kinda feel like flame belch should replace my grenade button too, as it's probably my useful. But equally that will becoming confusing
violet hinge
I have 5 side buttons on my mouse, so I may put some extra guns on it
burnt badger
Like mainly I keep a very set layout to have very little acclimatisation between games
Yeah I have 5 extra on the G402. Though I don't actually use the scroll wheel, I kinda consider that unreliable, even though it's not really, it's just a harder click
I should probably use it for something
violet hinge
we have the same mouse
the two easiest buttons to hit are my SSG/RL, I'll probably use 2 more buttons but they can be harder to reach than just pressing the mouse4/mouse5 with my thumb
actually I have the g502, but there isn't much of a difference
burnt badger
Indeed
scarlet gorgeBOT
Indeed!
burnt badger
I like that they moved the top buttons away from the wheel area and next to the left mouse instead
They're perfect to use for anything that doesn't require firing at the same time
violet hinge
yeah, I could potentially use one of those for my interact key
I'm using middle mouse for modswap
burnt badger
Mind you I should really consider switching my entire keybinds. But it's so much effort to learn a whole new scheme
(I use arrow keys as a right hander, for context )
violet hinge
I've considered listening to Byte and trying TFGH rather than WASD, but it's too much effort to learn lol
elder meadow
violet hinge
it feels so weird to use TFGH rather than WASD
burnt badger
I feel like I'm better off skipping WASD anyway
violet hinge
must be kind of hard to setup binds as a right hander
burnt badger
I'm so used to using my pinky, it would make sense to go at least ESDF, if not RDFG
elder meadow
What the hell
violet hinge
I'll always stick to WASD, probably.
who knows, maybe Eternal will make me use RDFG or TFGH
elder meadow
Lol use the num pad to move
burnt badger
Kinda interested why Byte has gone that far over mind you, since reaching tap or caps (if used) would be a fair stretch
violet hinge
He explained it earlier, it just opens up so many options I guess
burnt badger
Well, tab more so
Also seems like you'd need a very stable space bar, hitting it so far to the right
Using space bar for jump will be a massive task for me anyway, since I use right mouse
violet hinge
I think he just uses scroll for jump
burnt badger
If anything that was the hardest thing when I did a bit a WASD practise before the E3 demo
violet hinge
he said he has big hands so his thumb rests on right ALT
burnt badger
I don't ever use my thumb with my current layout, so that's why I guess
Oh that's interesting then
Guess it depends on keyboard size too, it's not like all layouts are the same anyway
And yeah they all use scroll to jump these days because of the advantage, I should have thought of that
violet hinge
you have like R, Y, ALT, J, U, N, E, D, (and more if you can stretch) with the TFGH
not to mention mouse buttons
burnt badger
I thought part of the idea would probably be to open up more keys to the left though
Anyway I guess I'll try some stuff in the near future... but that'll be the end of UN for a while no doubt
elder meadow
scroll for jump master race
burnt badger
It might be a nightmare to acclimatise back to other games though
elder meadow
It's hard to scroll and shoot at the same time
violet hinge
not if you just move your middle finger to mmb
granite venture
Ay yo quicc question:
Why is deathmatch dead
elder meadow
hey guys I'm having an issue with the audio in DOOM 2016. How do I make it so the sound doesn't mute when I'm tabbed out of the game?
Is there any reason I shouldn't switch to ESDF
Everywhere I've looked online people are happy that they switched
prisma gale
would've helped if DM didn't suck from the get go
Nothing was more demoralizing than blasting someone point blank with the gatling gun and seeing "5.5.5.5.5.5.5"... Then they pop you in the face with something and you die..
clever dew
The deathmatch mode was added in too late and the game's MP obviously wasn't geared for FFA deathmatch at all
It is really a team MP game where deathmatch itself makes COD's FFA superior just because, well, your enemies can actually die fast.
No really, if Doom 2016's MP had a lower time to kill and weapon loadouts wasn't as clunky as it is (or better, do it the old-school way), it would have been more tolerable
It feels like it takes forever to kill someone if you're not spamming explosives or using the shotgun loadout combo
fair sinew
the issue was that the multiplayer was running on arena mechanics but made with a loadout structure
so the gameplay was focused around map control without spawns
which I guess would be like driving a car without tires
its technically possible but its unpleasant as fuck
clever dew
I know Doom multiplayer is kind of uh dwindling past its prime, but Doom 2016 failed to recapture a new audience on what made deathmatch fun. And classic deathmatch wasn't in at launch. And CTF, while I know it's more of a Quake thing, isn't done traditionally (except on SnapMap) because we have a one-flag styled game mode with Infernal Run.
And I do not like the mode at all since it's on maps that aren't made with something like CTF in mind and the balance is poor on some maps
tired chasm
@elder meadow the sound mutes because the window isnt in focus.
elder meadow
Every time I open 2016, I remember how good it looks on my PC. Every time I close it, I forget and think my PC is a potato
I mean I'm not getting 60 FPS but it insn't really that much required as much as it is ideal
fleet schooner
Anything 0ver 25 is good enough
elder meadow
I’m steaming my first play through of any doom game with The 2016 release on stream rn
heady eagle
15-20 fps is the sweetspot.
sick arrow
Hello. I finally can afford a PS4 pro. Been wanting to play Doom 2016 since it was announced in 2014.
I’m so happy. I just got the game
Eternal is just few weeks away and the timing is just perfect
hallow prawn
So, you can play 2016 and Eternal almost in a row
sick arrow
Yes hehe timing is just nice
By the way I know Doom is a fast paced shooter but can I take it slow and take it all in?
Or will the game force me to still be fast
native grove
In combat you'll have to be fast unless you'll play on the easiest difficulty
worldly magnet
this friday, doom eternal will be exactly 7 weeks away
native grove
But after that you get all the time you want to oggle at the game
worldly magnet
@sick arrow between arenas you can take in the environment and look around for secrets
its not 100% fast paced
there are some nice environmental moments too
sick arrow
Ahaaa thanks! @worldly magnet
worldly magnet
even more so in doom eternal
native grove
Good luck
sick arrow
Thanks! I’m happy to join this community. Since Dead Space, I’m missing a space-setting horror game with a good story. I miss being absorbed in the lore.
worldly magnet
doom 2016 has a very good ammount of lore but doom eternal will expand the lore 10 fold
native grove
Doom isn't exactly horror, you'd have to go to doom 3 for that
Lore wise tho ye it's rich
worldly magnet
there is scary imagery in doom 2016 but nothing that is really horrific like in dead spacee
round garnet
welllll
i just happened to finish doom on nightmare
and i didn't suffer a lot but it was painful
should i just try UN straight away
or should i master nightmare first
round garnet
since UN is literally nightmare except no respawns
noble moat
Exactly, no spawns. So it’s recommended you master Nightmare first
noble moat
Also barons of hell cna basically one shot you. All bosses basically one shot you. Cyber mancubus will tear you a new one. Etc
Nice yuske, what difficulty?
noble moat
U gunna buy eternal?
elder meadow
UN is absolute nightmare then
noble moat
Yep. Beat the entire game with no deaths
Also Quitting st any point during a level corrupts the save Fire
It is however lenient on game crashing, once my game crashed but it understood and kept my save file
elder meadow
quitting won't corrupt your save file, it just deletes it
the only time you can save progress is at the end of levels
ruby crown
summoners are super piss easy to kill, you just whip out the launcher, lock on that b
tch the moment it's still, and fire on that mf like once or twice
noble moat
It says
And I quote
“File corrupt”
And then you have to delete it
burnt badger
@round garnet Depends how much you died in nightmare and where. If you died quite a lot, you might get frustrated doing UN by being sent back to the first level often
If you're serious on completing UN, my personal recommendation is to practise NM until you can do it pretty much without dying, then you will complete UN fairly quickly
tender shadow
Shit
After the update of Doom channel
There is so much active
I'm shocked
Only for this day there is about 1,5k messages or even more
I mean, including all chats
Shit, I'm wrong
Much more than 1,5k
2-2,5 I guess
tender shadow
Recently I've done with Doom 2016 on Nightmare
With all secrets
And all upgrades
ruby crown
and now for ultra nightmare
onyx portal
I don't get why some people would waste the chainsaw on imps or possessed
elder meadow
when you're in those very first levels before hell knights show up and only have 20 shotgun ammo, its sometimes necessary
noble moat
It’s more so for ammo than anything else
Also remember harder the enemy the more fuel it takes
barren wind
During a test run of 100% NM at AGDQ I ran into an interesting bug where I was able to slot a rune in the third rune slot, despite it being locked. Has anyone experienced anything similar?
worldly magnet
I have never heard of this until now, sounds like an interesting way to speed up a speed run tho
barren wind
The sad reality is that I have no recording of it, and have been unsuccessful in replicating the behavior. It's hard to tell if it was a one-off buffer overflow or what, but that would be a significant piece of speedrun tech if we could figure it out.
violet hinge
I’d be curious as to what led up to it, which level were you on, what rune did you equip, did anything happen before (like entering and leaving a rune challenge) etc
barren wind
It was Argent Tower, after acquiring the second rune of the level (where you unlock the second rune slot in 100%). After finishing the rune, I tabbed into the rune screen, and for some reason the cursor was on the second rune selection. I hit the down arrow followed by the enter key. I selected and slotted a rune in the third slot. I was then able to slot another rune in the second slot.
This could help with sub 2:20 tactics, for sure. Although, my PBs are clocking me at 2:18 at the moment.
violet hinge
So it’s triggered when unlocking another slot in your rune selection, probably bugs out and unlocks both. I’ll try playing around with it later. Did it still look locked? Like was the locked symbol still over the third slot?
barren wind
I just need to get acclimated to the new binds before I can start making serious attempts.
It was still locked, and once I mastered the rune in the third slot and removed it, I was unable to slot another rune in it's place.
If during your tests you wouldn't mind seeing if the home/end or page up/down keys contribute, I would appreciate it. I won't be home until Friday, otherwise I'd give it another try.
violet hinge
Yeah I’ll try testing that later, it’d be pretty cool to consistently replicate something like that. Would definitely save some time.
barren wind
Being able to start out equipping vacuum to the second rune would have a significant impact.
violet hinge
I assume your mouse position caused the 2nd slot to be hovered already?
barren wind
That is a possibility, but in my attempts with using the mouse to highlight the second slot, I was unsuccessful in replicating the behavior.
violet hinge
The UI reacts really weirdly with mouse positions, so I’ll have to try that
barren wind
If my memory serves me well, when I pulled off the glitch, the mouse was barely moved, and my key strokes on the keyboard were quite slow.
violet hinge
The menu does react to previous mouse position, so if you were aiming and shooting, wherever the cursor ended up seems to affect the menus
barren wind
That is very possible, too. I did perform a 180 to turn around before tabbing into the rune menu.
violet hinge
at least that’s what I’ve noticed in my hours, the mouse position has affected my upgrade menu and whatnot.
barren wind
That could be the key - if during the 180 I moved the cursor to the left-mid portion of the screen, that could be why the menu defaulted to the second rune selection!
violet hinge
Yeah, it makes sense. My mouse always messes with the menu like that
barren wind
For replication purposes, I would need the cursor to default to the same location when loading back into the level from the rune trial.
Otherwise, you'd have to sink the cursor into a corner and blindly navigate to the rune slot from there.
violet hinge
Huh I might have just figured it out
Have you ever seen the bug where you purchase an upgrade despite not even going to that menu? It’s because of mouse position
barren wind
Yes
violet hinge
Maybe because your mouse is on the second slot, but then you use the keyboard to move to the third, it basically does the same thing that happens with the praetor menu
because we know that we can access different menus despite not even touching them and that’s how the upgrade bug happens
this could just be the same thing, but on the rune menu
I’m definitely gonna test that later
barren wind
We need to sync up on voice, if you have time this weekend. I'd love to pick this tech apart with you.
violet hinge
I might be able to this weekend, I had some flooding in my house so I might not be able to because we’re currently sorting that out lol
I’ll let you know if I can replicate it tonight; I think it definitely has to do with mouse positions so I have an idea of how to get it to work
barren wind
We've started handling menu in a different, more hands-off-the-mouse manner, in order to avoid the area scanning upgrade bug that you referenced. It makes perfect sense if the cursor location is stored before tabbing in.
violet hinge
It’d be great if we could get some others to test this too, someone will eventually get it
barren wind
I sincerely appreciate it, @violet hinge ! This tech could have a big impact on the 100% route if it is replicable.
violet hinge
Yeah it really will, just in time for Eternal too lol
worldly magnet
oh man i cant wait to see it if this actually works
barren wind
Here's hoping that back-to-back 100% runs of DOOM and DE are quicker than 8 hours xD
violet hinge
Would really shake up the run
worldly magnet
doom 2016 is a buggy game
Its all in the mechanics
barren wind
Amen ^
worldly magnet
oh god doom eternal runs 100% i hope arent too long
violet hinge
I can’t wait for back to back runs 
worldly magnet
difficulty settings are different in doom eternal as well so definitly speedrunning will be a bit different from 2016
violet hinge
I’m gonna guess 6-7 hours for NM 100% in Eternal
worldly magnet
first 3 levels are about 3 hours for normal playing
so probably about 45 minutes to an hour for a speed runner
barren wind
The dash mechanic is going to shake up the muscle memory profiles across the two games
worldly magnet
timing dashes between combat arenas is going to be tough
violet hinge
I’ll be interested to see how the new engine affects the run too
Wonder what new bugs we’ll find
worldly magnet
i just gotte say, the runes in doom eternal look way easier to get than the doom 2016 runes
well it recharges super fast on the ground
so i dont think hopping is a great idea
i doubt they would leave a glairing glitch like that in this game
violet hinge
Have we seen rune mastery in Doom Eternal? I don’t believe we have right? That’d save some a lot of time seeing as how there is a lot of focus on getting all the runes mastered
the doom 2016 run would be significantly faster if rune mastery wasn’t a thing
worldly magnet
rune acquisition is better
i havent seen rune mastery
im not sure they do have masteries
violet hinge
yeah I think it’s gone
Yeah there’s a lot of upgrades like that now, but mastery’s would take longer than collecting praetor tokens if Doom 2016 is anything to go off
noble moat
Rip and tear and tear and tear and tear
bold trench
wish there was a cheat code for perma berserk
or at least a cheat code that gave you berserk, the original doom 1 and 2 had them, why couldn't doom '16?
noble moat
Could fuck with achievements
bold trench
well, even then, is there a way to make fists available and selectable?
noble moat
Does it do normal melee damage
bold trench
hmm
so what if
you modded the game so that there is no loadout
one guy made a fists only mod of doom '16
i'd think of just deleting the guns
but i don't think that'll work
and, when i repack it into a .resource file doom gets a ton of errors on startup
and dev mode is activated
bold trench
wish the dude actually
you know
made the thing public
he says he's planning on releasing it when it's finished
that was over a year ago
still nothing
how do you even compile a mod in the first place?
i tried what i did, recompiled, didn't work
i reverted the changes, recompiled, and it still didn't work
do the files have some type of signature?
#644801803355029514 is about id tech 1
doom '16 is id tech 6
elder meadow
@bold trench
There is a 2016 modding discord. Want me to drop you a link?
bold trench
yes, please
fair sinew
Okay so ill be honest, this game had too much upgrade bullshit
It interfered with the game imo, most of the weapons were already strong enough from the start
once fully upgraded the game was hardly even challenging anymore
elder meadow
Oof
ik you're not asking me but I'd be interested to join it
If anyone else wants invite
Just ask in PM
Remember it is not that active
fair sinew
I kinda miss how in the classic games, the enemies were more of a threat
in nuDoom you can spam weapon mods to takedown the strongest enemies easily
and the BFG is less of a skillful weapon like it was in the classic games and more of a get-out-of-jail free pass
noble pike
I watched an interview with hugo Martin talking about that. He pretty much said that they tried to steer eternal into a spot where you more need to utilize the right tool for the right demon essentially
fair sinew
even though it didnt have weapon mods the super shotgun in this game had some ridiculous upgrades
faster reload? double shot? pierce enemies? wtf else weapon do you even need unless youre out of shell ammo?
noble pike
So less of just being able to rely on the ssg hopefully
hushed vault
they were going to add a variable choke option to it too
as the altfire
meaning that you could actually make it more accurate
fair sinew
I would have preferred if Eternal did away with upgrades entirely
hushed vault
sure, the SSG was basically the go-to weapon in Doom 2, but it wasn't that much of one
noble pike
Idk what you're talkin about that's all I used in doom 2 lmao
fair sinew
SSG in Doom 2 still suffered from a low rate of fire and large spread so it was still somewhat balanced
in doom 4 once upgraded its faster than the normal shotgun from classic doom
hushed vault
I think 64 actually made the SSG OP as well by making it faster
noble moat
You are gunna hate eternal. It has like 10 times the menus and upgrade options and such compared to 2016
noble pike
The thing about the weapon upgrades tho is you can opt out of that system if you really dont want them
noble moat
Well of course you can alwasy choose to not upgrade anything. The game will be much harder, but thats purely for preferred
Preference *
noble pike
Boutta beat doom 2016 with just the pistol and no upgrades real quick
noble moat
My condolences
fair sinew
no pistol in eternal anymore
noble moat
Thankfully shotgun start.
hushed vault
they pulled a Quake and started you out with the shotgun
fair sinew
so ur fuckt once you run out of ammo
hushed vault
well, I mean, that's what it looks like
elder meadow
when did u ever run out of ammo in 2016 though
noble moat
Tbh
noble pike
Yeah that literally never happened to me
fair sinew
they pulled a quake 2 with Doom2016 starting you with a infinite ammo pistol
hushed vault
Q2's pistol felt kinda weird IMO, the animation looked like he was pretending it had a shit ton of recoil
elder meadow
2016's pistol wasn't that bad actually but i just didn't like the sound
hushed vault
and it was what most peeps used to shoot out those red things
fair sinew
they eliminated the useless axe and replaced it with something that you may want to use
removing the pistol imo wasnt a good idea
elder meadow
you haven't played the game yet, how do you know that
fair sinew
all doom games have it
thats like removing the pistol in a wolfenstein game ohwaittheydidthat
elder meadow
??
violet hinge
nah, it was a good idea. it opened up room for more power weapons after the BFG was moved to the normal weapons
elder meadow
from what wolfenstein game did they remove the pistol?
noble pike
Imo they shouldnt just put something in just because it's always been done
fair sinew
Wolfenstein 2009
noble pike
Especially when there's no real point to a pistol in the more modern doom at all tbh
violet hinge
and to reply to your message saying that you're "fucked" if you run out of ammo now, that's not really the case. The chainsaw passively regenerates one pip so that you always have a way to get a little bit of ammo
fair sinew
Id rather have a quick-pistol button or something for a charged shot
its okay my mouse has 20 buttons
elder meadow
Pistols are always trash in Doom games
Good riddance
violet hinge
there was really no point to include the pistol in Eternal. They made the right choice when it came to that, I'd much rather have more power weapons now because of it
fair sinew
well its all the same weapons as doom 2016 anyway
elder meadow
Sort of
fair sinew
except maybe the sord
violet hinge
there are new weapons
fair sinew
more like new names for some of the weapons
elder meadow
You can notice an incredibly subtle but enormous difference for the Heavy Cannon to the HAR
As well as for the Ballista to Gauss
fair sinew
ye the heavy cannon fires projectiles
also why is it called heavy cannon, just call it "auto-cannon"
elder meadow
Not just that
The entire role was rethought
From Classic Doom's Chaingun, to Quake's Nailgun
And the micromissiles are very, very different
fair sinew
oh wait we are getting into #doom-eternal territory
elder meadow
Ah ye. Let's move
fair sinew
lets instead talk about how useless the HAR crosshair is in Doom 2016
why is it still not fixed
elder meadow
Lolno
It is one of the most OP things in very specific situations
fair sinew
?
elder meadow
yeah the HAR crosshair is impossible to see in most cases
the crosshair should really be more customizable
In Arcade Mode it works very well
noble pike
Never had any issues with it myself
elder meadow
Oh you mean the actual crosshair not the weapon mod
fair sinew
learn2read
elder meadow
30% of the reason I get micro missiles for HAR is to have a crosshair I can see
fair sinew
it shouldnt be though
it looks fine in multiplayer
I ended up using a post-processor that adds a dot crosshair
unfortunately its on all weapons
elder meadow
Them hax
fair sinew
it dont matter its not like I play the shite upon shite multiplayer mode
fair sinew
it wasnt that long, I already used it with other games
mainly ones that didnt have a crosshair on purpose
elder meadow
fair sinew
or maybe get the dudes to fix the shit crosshair already
just brighten it up
make it white instead of transparent grey
well then youre weird
noble pike
Tbh tho I never felt like crosshairs were that important in most games
elder meadow
idk in the killing floor games I don't use crosshairs but it just feels odd for any other game
fair sinew
hey just because you dont use crosshairs doesnt mean everyone feels that way
I want to use the fancy animated crosshairs because they are cool and they show me where my shots go
but the HAR crosshair is fucking shit
noble moat
Eternal has a massive menu, odds are options will be there
elder meadow
it's not a matter of not liking the color, it's about being hard to aim with
ehhh the crosshair options for eternal are just full, dot or nothing, which is fine.
fair sinew
when you increase the fov it becomes even harder to see
when you turn on simple crosshair, you cant easily see if your mods are ready to shoot, and the plasma rifle simple crosshair is tiny and becomes even harder to see when you turn up the fov
stone coral
I do not remember this song being in doom 2016 at all. was this an unused track or something? https://open.spotify.com/track/2AAzd5nBlG26ZZTjrFNcik?si=5Y7CNv45RPeH45r_LIsmJg
elder meadow
its in kadingir sanctum iirc
the start is not from the game though
with the female voice singing
stone coral
ok i definitely recognize it near the end. but the start of it was not in the game at all
elder meadow
yea
stone coral
weird
vast fable
Just for science
In Advanced Research Complex, when you activate those prototype BFG firing tests, standing in the middle of the tube and conduit during them WILL kill you
tribal rivet
anyone run ultra nightmare/100% or challenge runs?
worldly magnet
byte me does
tribal rivet
Oh yea I watch byte’s stuff 🤘
burnt badger
@stone coral Yeah, there are a few in the official soundtrack that I could never identify properly in game
Impure Spectrum, Residual and The Stench
And yeah the end of Residual is kind of familiar, but I never quite managed to link it to an actual in-game piece
Impure Spectrum has so little to identify with that it could be Kadingir ambient or something, I just have no idea
Pretty much the same with The Stench actually
native grove
I think I've heard bits of residual in d'nur
After freeing the wraiths, kinds remember those maicute singing
burnt badger
Really? I'll have to check that if I remember
Since I'd have thought that singing would be very obvious in game, considering how little vocalisation is in the soundtrack
native grove
Yeah I remember it somewhat vividly because of how weird it was to hear like, an actual almost angelic voice
vast fable
For some reason
The sound on PS4 loves to cut out at random times
And it's the ps4, not my tv because backgrounding it has the sound work fine until you go back in, then dead silence
Also something else I never realized, jumping with the chainsaw in hand, gives a different, more "shaky" jump
violet hinge
space them out rather than instantly pressing both
noble moat
Once u reach peak of jump jump again
Once you get the timing down it becomes instinct
elder meadow
Thanks doombros
elder meadow
is my pc going to be able to tank doom eternal?
true spade
We dont know yet, no system requirements have been revealed afaik
violet hinge
well you kind of have to post your specs for anyone to know that
long hazel
we know you need a GPU that supports Vulkan at least
violet hinge
you should be able to run it relatively fine, medium-high settings. We won't know for sure until we see how optimized the new engine is, which I'm sure id won't disappoint
elder meadow
i hope my cpu wont explode calculating all them real time physics for destructible demon giblets 😔
violet hinge
yeah I'd imagine this game will be much more CPU intensive compared to 2016. Although it seems like the gibs disappear relatively quickly
should move to #doom-eternal fyi
elder meadow
viscid lava
I hate Nightmare holy shit that's rough.