#doom-2016
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pocket long range crucible with more ammo genuinely
Killed the big bad spider demon and saved the whole world (kinda), and in a few days ill be able to get doom eternal and doom the dark ages
Honestly doom 2016 feals like what halo infinite could have been if it was mabe by a competent company
hope you enjoy them bro. love the doom games.
What it should have been
Me too
they’re so fire. couldn’t get enough of them. started wolfenstein 3d bc of them 🔥
I wish more than anything that Halo was like DOOM
Im gonna do that next
Especially if it had something like the glory kill system
Exactly, I’ve been saying the same for a while now
awesomee! someone in here told me to do it.
glory kill in halo would be dopee
Doom slayer is actually the grandson of the wolfenstein mc
yea fount that out bc someone ive became friends with started telling me the whole lore while we were boosting 2016 😂😂
Nice
pretty cool. pretty cool.
Or like the mod swap system
For guns
Everything, including that yes
Nah. Halo is Halo and DOOM is DOOM. Both have their own unique spin on the FPS concept at the end of day
Halo was actually an evolution of Marathon, hell it even follows a lot of similar story beats, not to mention the myriad details that are on thin line between being simple references and very interesting implications of them being connected...
on the topic of Halo, apparently Doom 2016 multiplayer was handled by the same people who made Halo 4 multiplayer
which is interesting to say the least...
Does anyone know what is the best course of action to get all of the multiplayer achievements now times?
Idk, I think Halo's gameplay and style is so distinctly "Halo" with the two-weapon limit, recharging shields, and very specific combat and weapons sandbox that trying to DOOM-ify it would just make it a DOOM game with aliens.
And regarding more gore beyond the Flood and exceptions like that, Bungie tried to make it work again and again but it just doesn't work with Halo.
Although I wouldn't mind a spin-off not connected to the mainline games that does some of that and tries new things too.
A DOOM 3 style game where you play as a Marine on a Flood-infested UNSC ship would be pretty rad.
Assassinations
https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/1348278282767831044/1464958747154579486/image.psd1.png?ex=69775ca6&is=69760b26&hm=3a85932e6970251e8fce4514a90e3ffffd52e08e1ce5b332dce98aa2a95ec768&animated=true mhm yep haden i understand argent tower mhm yeah yerp i get it
(i have had to watch this scene like five times after fucking up Double Take oh my GO)
Is this so you don't fall asleep during Samuel's dialogue?
Samuel is so boring. He deserved to be destroyed in eternal
True
absolutely
Damn, what a shocking image, a scene from Family Guy and a Subway Surfers gameplay video
samuel hayden i love your design but
STOP. TALKNG.
please
im find with replaying the mission itself since
ive got a super shotgun mastery to farm for
Sammmeeeee
People often talk about how Eternal 'destroyed his character' and while I hate the Samur reveal his character in 2016 was just boring.
Bro did nothing but yap on and force you to sit through unskippable sections.
The samur reveal feels like smth outta Percy Jackson ngl
When a normal dude is like a monster or smth
He singlehandedly kills the pace everytime he appears in 2016. I hate it.
yep…
You get me?
TRUE
I mean I like his voice, so I’m fine with it
his character was better but it is undeniable that it was annoying to sit and listen to him talk idfk what they were thinking with that
Eternal also made this mistake in Nekravol as they force u to listen to his yap once more
Hi again guys....
Anyone who knows?
If the file is corrupted it's gone
We all should know doom 2016 is the best version yet
I DEFINITELY AGREE WITH YOU
I beat the game 113 times already I've been counting
Jesus Christ
Same
When i beat the game 150 times im finna do ultra nightmare
Damn
Besides, in my opinion, it has what I call "absolute perfection" in its soundtrack.
The OST is a mix of metal and electronic music.
It is ETERNAL
I'm currently on my FIRST playthrough of the game. Yes I realize I'm 10 years late to the party but better late than ever. I'm not the greatest at first person shooters but after years of putting it off I really wanted to dive into Doom. I'm in a sci fi/horror/action mood lately. Its the perfect weekend to play it too as the northeast is getting clobbered with a winter storm right now. Rip and Tearing all weekend
Enjoy it! You'll have a great time!
DESTROY AND TEAR UNTIL YOU'RE GONE WITH THEM ALL
apparently something very funny was made in 2020 that i have somehow never heard about until a friend told me about it like an hour ago
Interesting
embers of armageddon
a port of doom 2016's weapons, combat mechanics, and upgrade system to gzdoom
it's so stupid (endearing)
i love it
*we love
Don't worry , you'll get hang of it in the process. Whole ass 14 hours of savagery and very atmospheric environments
today I discovered you can center your viewmodels in 2016
didn't know that
thought that was only in eternal
how do I actually take a screenshot, does photo mode work?
Do we ever get an explanation to where doom guy stores all his guns?
Hammerspace
Wrong, he stores it up his asshole, pulling it out with ease
I’m guessing in this one he stores some of them on his belt, and the more high tech ones can collapse into the Praetor suit
Where?, mass doesn't just go away
Well the entire game is from a first person perspective pretty much, so use your imagination
the only correct answer
Does the game get fuzzy and weird whenever invisible pinkys show up for anyone else?
Maybe don’t look through the spectres
Ummmm does anyone want to play doom 2016s multi-player on xbox if you have it or are interested
r u trying to play for fun or are u going for achievements?
Ummmm I guess going for achievements
We could play free for all
We might need some more people though
they in a group on xbox. and half of them double box. idk what mode they do now but they was sector boosting when i was in there. my friend can add u in there they pretty active.
ok my friend gaston is going to add you. him and 2 others are playing the game rn i think. ill probably join off my 2nd box
doom what
Doom Nintendo Switch
Uh-
If you're on pc it's the F12 button
Doom 2016?
No doom games were released in 2021
DOOM 2149
sorry went to cook dinner and eat and stuff. did u get in the lobby and play with them??
hi, just bought doom 2016, i hope i enjoy it
It’s peak, trust
Congrats, you're about to experience exquisite and piece of art content.
Does anybody play the multiplayer anymore for 2016? I used to love it but last time I tried I couldn’t find any matches
yeah i was about to ask for people
i wanna 100% it
99% of the people who play 2016 multiplayer are either achievement farming or cheating
yep
Gotta say, for all people are like "don't turn on ray tracing" the steam deck handles it fine
Until you encounter a partly transparent enemy
Then it loses its mind
The music for this game is great
tbh given the specs it performs way above expectations
the fact that it can even run the latest Doom game is just as insane
Valve and id's technical magic combined...
Yeah but the performance loss and battery consumption on Steam Deck there isn't really worth the trouble
especially since 2016 aged so well visually
multiplayer for playstation? queue up 😝
anyone want coop on steam?
the endings to all these games are abrupt
main game Eternal is very abrupt, DLC isn't as much but still kinda is
idk i felt like eternal's story was simple enough and concluded well
2016's ending kind of confused me
and the gap between it and eternal confused me too. how he got the fortress of doom and why he was even out of the tether in the first place
Won't surprise me if they decided to cut that part early when making Eternal
I felt that way only for Eternal personally
Idk it felt appropriate to end it there to me, you're given an oh shit moment then kicked out to let it hit in
Someone doom 2016 multiplayer on ps4?
can anyone help me get the gold rating in multiplayer on pc? I am incredibly tired of finding a game only for it to be a hacker
legit can't get close to gold if I die every 2 secs
if you find a cheater just put down the multiplayer and play smth else for a bit, the cheaters in this game are usually pretty active so when they hop on they wont hop off for a while, you just gotta find a time when they arent on
yea thanks for the info. But I still feel it would be easier to just get 4 people and grind the achievment real quick
still my favourite of the nudoom trilogy tho tbh
samuel is just so imposing and Dr Samuel Hayden is a really good track in the ost

Got doom 2016 running natively on my android tablet so i can play at school lol. Using gamehub emulator and getting a stable 55 fps. Not too bad for an Arm chip
Awesome
You still up for it? Cuz I need it too
Gamehub as in the gamesir app?
yo, you doing any still? i just need bowling for gibs/terderizing the crops and eat your vitamins i will worry about the level grind
With 2016, I can understand it in the sense of how slowly the game gives you your full arsenal.
By the time you hit Vega's level, you're on the second last level before the finale. And by that time you do have your loadout. Compared to how every other Doom game gives you your arsenal much more sooner.
Maybe only other Doom game that slowly gives you your full loadout is Doom 3.
But even then I feel the only gun the game doesn't drop onto you till much later is the BFG.
Agreed.
Any one up for multiplayer?
As usual, when a person calls for a multiplayer session, I am commuting or at work -_-
I wish I could join you, mate.
anyone doing achievements here? pc ofc
And ofc. Done all paperwork, waiting for more clients while chatting in discord
Yeah, I‘d be available to do them this weekend. I really only need the gold rating
Kinda just woke up and need to go to university now lmao
alr
Anyone up to do some MP achievements this weekend?
If you play Doom 2016 mp on Xbox let me know. My gamertag is NiceGodzilla
What platform?
What Platform?
PC
yeah, gamesir's gamehub. Im using a Lenovo Yoga Tab Plus for context, but It should work fine with any other flagship phone/tablet, starting at something like the legion tab. For lower end, i don't think it will run well.
Ok, I have it too but I’m on a fairly old iPhone, so I can’t emulate😭
Like, at all. Emulation is not supported on iPhones
nothing ever is supported by iPhones 👍
Playstation 4
hello!
I'm brand new to gaming and have chosen Doom as my first game
I'm not really sure about what settings to use/change
can someone help me with it?
Are you on PC or console?
PC
Honestly I think the default keybinds are mostly pretty good, I have weapon mod swap set to R and chainsaw set to X. As for graphics, do whatever your PC is capable of, but I always set my frame rate to 60 FPS. And Hurt Me Plenty is a good start difficulty
oh okay
and the graphics at ultra? PC was bought last year, 5060 and a Ryzen 7 250
If it runs well, sure
okay.I hear people playing the game by being ruthless
but I'm so worried about dying and running out of ammo
You have to be aggressive, use the tools the game gives you and you will get back health and not run out of ammo, while having a lot of fun
thats the other thing. this game is meant to kill you. dont be afraid of dying, its just a way to learn about what mistakes you made and how to improve
If anyone wants to run DOOM 4 multiplayer DM me. I'm on PS4. My PSN is in my discord description too!
true. I was slinking around the edges to hide from mobs :p Died a couple of times but then realized stuff like throw nade at groups, hit the shield guy from behind and so on
Are the multiplayer servers for ps4/5 down for anyone else?
HIDEO KOJIMA
anyone wanna do doom 2016 mp? i need bowling for gibs, terderizing the crops and eat your vitamins
I completely forgot about DOOM 2016 since I finished the campaign
I don't think I might be able to actually 100% the game since Multiplayer is not playable basically
With enough people it is
But want to try to get all single player campaign achievements
Just missing the all data logs cause I missed one on mission 11, all weapon mods, all runes upgraded (I already have all collected) and Level 1 in ultra nightmare
Stuffs pretty easy to do. The multiplayer achievements can easily be done in a group, except the ones you need to grind xp for. But theres ways for that
Is the ultra nightmare one easy?
Never played on that dificulty and it is the hardest one
I will try playing mp but if it takes too long I just leave the game without the mp achievements
if youre on steam from my experience the multiplayer is very much playable
I wouldn't say "easy" but if you got the basics of the game down good enough you can do it first try. I mean you only have imps and soldiers to worry about and as long as you hit and keep moving it's totally alright
For the mp I'd say you try to get a group together. Me and another guy are currently looking for people too, since we only need a few more achievements. Grinding xp can be annoying but if you really don't want to grind, there's a mod that allows you to gain xp in practice (bot) matches and you can also turn the xp gain up. It's kinda cheating, like really, but since the multiplayer is as good as dead with the few people playing it being cheaters, I'd say it's fair game
Very nice to know then!
you just gotta know when the most active times are in your timezone
I play on Steam but with PS4 controller
yea that's doable
tho idk if mouse and keyboard might be easier
never really played shooters on controller
I don't have any irl friend that plays Doom 2016
So yeah...
well you got the discord server here
Might be easier to use the mod
As I said, I am currently looking for people
I only play at weekends and not much, cause I also play many many other games and do other stuff on pc too
I think there's like 3 achievements that you can't do solo even with the mod. For me that was gold rating and detect 20 enemies with the threat pulse
yea same here, you don't got nothing to worry about. We can do it some weekend
if you want ofc
I also remembered about arcade mode don't even know what is that lol
oh arcade is easy. you just follow a guide and you can do all in one run. You basically play a level of your choice and focus only on fighting. Kills give you medals etc
Yeah sure, I play like a lot of games and want to buy even more, like ts is really crazy I have games I bought that I still haven't played and today want to buy 3 more but you gotta understand me cause I buy games I want when they are like 20€ or less so yeah but I have been playing 1 online game rn to finish some other solo games/games I want to get 100%
yea dude I'm the same I feel you
Oh ok I saw it has like 10 achievements maybe less
❤️
arcade actually only has 3
I think
Oh yeah just checked
The rest is all mp or the ones I am missing from single player and snap maps that I presume are the easiest ones
snap maps is easy, but just time consuming. doing the tutorials takes a bit and it's all boring af imo
Hey is anyone still doing the multiplayer thing?
Cause like
Im going for the Playstation platinum
So um... is multiplayer still a thing people do for this game?
that's precisely the case, not as many play for the fun of it unfortunately
if you find people to play yes
I have played for the fun and I believe everyone starts to play for the fun, but after finishing the campaign you start to want to get all and it starts to get more boring
I really want to believe that but achievement hunters tend to treat that as checklist of things to do rather than part of the experience they can enjoy
almost every time i open this channel it's "help with multiplayer achievements pls!!!!!!"
hello guys, someone for playing on multiplayer ?
I can see the irony here
im really serious
You playing on PC?
nop ps5, that's not crossplateform
A shame. I‘m on pc
Bro multiplayer is dead if you play it is for the achievements
Dunno about that, i just jump into team play matchmaking and stay there for few matches sometimes because it's fun
I wish this channel would get discussion past "I need help with achievements"
This is one of the best DOOM games and has a lot to talk about
But it just doesn't happen
i love how in early test footage they used Doom 3 hell skyboxes
then in release , Hell skyboxes look more in line with it.
I wonder where did the decision to make hell go from yellow to orange/red came from
plenty of hell concept arts had that yellow/greenish hue
It was harshly criticised for it iirc. People just don't like the "piss filter" because any game with yellow apparently looks bad I guess.
I never had a problem with the original yellow colour of 2016's Hell personally, if anything it just made it more unique
It's really funny then because piss filter implies everything is yellow but it was actually just fog and sky box.
I think the lava in the Foundry was also yellow but like I said, it's genuinely such a non-issue to me, I don't know why people complain about it lol
It's just set in Mexico
Well in Kadingir Sanctum, it literally turns red during the last combat encounter, and the Hell locations in this game are in a completely different region that the ones we see in other games
Remember, this is the same planet/asteroid belt that has Nekravol, The Forsaken Plains, The Blood Swamps, The Harbor of Souls, and Immora all as geographically distinct parts of Hell
One main component I wish Id would keep intact across the modern doom games was keep the level of immersion/interactivity.
Upon playing Doom 2016 again, seemed like a perfect mesh of classic Doom and Doom 3 as inspiration.
You can see plenty of Doom 3 influence throughout the UAC. Tbf, also helps that the lead environment designer is the same person that did Doom 3.
I wish Eternal would keep 2016's atmosphere
One of my complaints for TDA being how it can strip away player involvement in favor of cutscenes.
Would've loved to climb into the mech myself, run up that staircase in the cosmic realm section, and other moments I'm probably incapable of remembering atm.
Like Dead Space, Doom 2016 is a game with nearly no cuts.
You're entirely in control the whole time. Never any disconnect from you and Doom Marine.
Outside of immersion.
Snap map always seemed cool, but I never experienced it during its prime. And I don't know how well the mode works for what the devs wanted to gift the playerbase
that would have been just scrapped Doom 4
SnapMap is awesome to create in
I do know playing the multiplayer of Doom 2016 makes me wish Quake Champions did succeed. Eventually make console ports, implement crossplay, become big in esports if they wished, so forth.
Same
The games I ever had the most fun with when it comes to PvP is TitanFall 2 and Quake Arena Arcade.
I'm not big on QC, I'm fine with it fading away personally
Rare Quake Arena Arcade mention?
I know it did some things differently from literally every other iteration.
Remember there being character stats like speed, health, armor
I appreciate the music and the Doomguy skins but that's about it really. And more of Blazkowicz's voice is always great. I prefer 2016's MP by far
Ik achievement hunting can drag down an experience but they put it in for a reason
And im doing it for that it may be fun and achievement hunting
Two demons, one bullet
So true
Uhhhh are these from the same mission?!
yeeep
which means i'm outta luck for 100%ing that mission
unless i want to restart the WHOLE CAMPAIGN.
Did you pick up coliectivble marines and are they gone? If so, yeah you may need to restart.
Never seen such bug. Weird.
how do i get good at this game? 50h and im still dying instantly on nightmare
got any clips of you playing the game?
otherwise you gotta make sure youre constantly moving
use shotgun and remote det rocket launcher and siege mode gauss cannon
and stun bomb on plasma rifle
Love stun bomb.
Literally one of your best utility tools, aside from decoy and siphon.
Remote detonation is supreme.
Two potential rocket explosions with AoE shrapnel DPS.
Usually fire off a remote detonation on higher tier demons before I start swapping between SSG and Triple burst mod for Combat shotgun.
Haha! I just beat the Cyberdemon :3
Hello, I've made a steam group for D2016 to help players find multiplayer lobbies. The premise is simple, all you have to do is join the steam group and anytime you or someone else is in a lobby, it will be visible on the group page and people can join you. It also has a pickup feature to ping other people when players are needed.
i would really appriciate it if you shared this with your friends aswell
the hard part is setting up times so people can actually help i only got 5 mp achievements left for 2016 half was gotten without boosting solo i just need 3 dif demon kills/bowling for gibs i will just worry about level grinding since i mainly play games solo
i'm on pretty much all the time anyways
it can be used for scrims but its more for casual players. instead if queuing up and waiting a half hour, you could just look at the steam group and join someone elses game
i'm from the US so i can somewhat find lobbies easier i try doing the bowling for gibs like two days ago and give up since it was annoying asf
i give up doing that since like 2024 but now coming back trying to finish the last 5
and also you got anyone else that wanna do doom 2016? i got some people but waiting for them to be ready most likely the weekend
this isnt like an event people can do pickup games any time
im trying to get the word because the more people join the steam group the better it will work
Hello guys, i’m looking for some people to help me get the multiplayer achievement on doom 2016, i’m on PlayStation.
If someone is interested pm me please
Thanks
Have a nice day
How do I join in lol, I tried but I can't
oh ill check it out, it should be public
Yeah haha it's not letting me fucking join
thats weird, its set to public, can you send me a screenshot of the page?
Yeah sure I'm on mobile rn although
i just join without a issue
Wait how lol or am I just dumb
😭
I'll try it later from my PC I guess on mobile it's fucking weird
can you not see "join group"?
was about to post a screenshot but guess i can't but there should be a option there
Naw from my mob I can't see that option I'll try it in a bit from my PC
odd
Haha yeah I was about to post mine here too
But unfortunately I can't
lmao

i got like 5 mp achievements for doom i got some people but waiting for them if they're ready probably the weekend anyways
tysm
np
Oh sure I am up for it! And it's better if we can voice chat, it's just makes it way easier
i do not have a mic just to let you know but if you wanna be in one that's fine you play on steam correct?
yeah correct dawg
k
Anyone on PlayStation down to play
IVE DONE IT
I BEAT DOOM ON UV
@obsidian dirge ik you said to really stop with the pings but…RAAAHH THIS IS AWESOME
W
I’m collectible hunting now
is there a achievement i need to beat the game on hard? i haven't bother with sp yet since i'm trying to get the mp done
HI
No but there's one map which is the first one
k
Anyone down to play before my Plus ends today
Yeah
We need two more right?
Yes
Guys did you know that Sean Bean was one of the lead producers of DOOM, and he didn’t even die during the game? Look it up
Never even realized that the string of text under the casualty count were names
I find the UAC kinda stupid.
I know it's meant to be satirical and shit, with enthusiastic recorded messages talking about stuff like "human resources" and the fact that they were messing with hell portal shit but the only thing I find weird is the UAC Standard-Issue Pistol.
The recoil is ludicrous even for the Doom Slayer.
Also, he needs 2 hands to use the alt fire with still a lot of recoil.
How does Samuel Hayden expect scientists use this shit?
All the budget went into making it have infinite ammo I guess
Another thing about the infinite ammo
The gun ejects shells?
W
Yeah, I also found it weird. It's explainedl in a dossier, but I deleted shells, anyway.
Can you tell me how to do it? I'm a pedantic perfectionist and I get annoyed when there are continuity mistakes.
Previous post got deleted
I mean, it's not mistake, but still weird that infinite ammo Pistol has shells. Also in dossier it says it recharges from player movement, like of MP/Snapmap weapons.
I don't remember exactly how to delete it, since I did it in 2020, but I assume:
generated/decls/weapon/weapon/zion/player/sp/pistol.decl
You need to remove whole "shellEmitter" code in this file.
@lofty charm good to see you! Any new mod ideas yet?
Glad to see you too!
No, still working on Overhaul Final. Currently making empowered enemies variations.
Wanted to make teleporter grenade, but got stuck with it, even though it's sort of working.
How did you crack empowered demons? Missed that news.
I only finished 60 out of 210 variations for now. But all current variations are working.
About them: 2 are speed variations (Haste, Slowmo), 2 damage variations (Berserk, Quad), 2 health variations (Mega and Invulerability), 1 Regen, 1 invisible (basically fully T0yOta one, but with additional enemies), 1 protection (Environmental), 1 Unkillable.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WPLzbNcWOps
Showcase of work in progress Grand Doom 2016 Overhaul Final new empowered demons.
Empowered demons are based on T0y0ta's Buffed Demons and Spectre Demons, have effects and auras from powerups and have chance to drop related powerup.
Tests were made on Easy Difficulty Stats.
Enormous thanks to @ T0yOta (https://www.youtube.com/@T0yOta/videos) fo...
Idk
That's hot bro. Im proud of you and your work.
Thank you very much for your kind words and support! 🎉 ❤️
just finshed doom 2016
Amazing job!
Also
I’m missing two collectibles
The fourth one on the first page, and a yellow one on the second page
I actually don't know what are you talking about 😅
How are u replying so fast
cuz
Are u from id software
ye
Love your work man. Makes my weekends amazing every weekend. Thank you
How active is the multilayer of this game 10 years since launch
If you're lucky you may get into a full lobby thru team play matchmaking
sometimes
Oh wow it really has been 10. Hi I’m new here new to the doom server and new to the doom universe, but I am learning I promise.
relatively active on steam, atleast in the eu
US is still active which i am from think i try EU once, you can still get people from there i play on steam so not sure how active playstation is
i played a few i believe 2-3 days ago was able to find some lobbies and that wasn't even on weekends
RIP and Tear
Until it is DONE
I heard a while ago about a Legacy mod or something that would allow me to get most of the multiplayer achievements by playing against bots? Is there anyone who could help me on how to download/install it? I have no idea how to mod the game
Combat encounter animation pre-visualization from id Software's unreleased DOOM 4. There we can see more of the original sound effects and the realistic combat design in development for the lost DOOM game!
Non-playable Character Animator: Eric Webb
"ZION® © 2011 id Software LLC, a ZeniMax Media company. Bethesda, Bethesda Softworks, Zeni...
Well it feels punchy, sure
But when your primary targets are imps with small hit boxes, the lack of damage and bad spread makes it a real pain
Just finished argent facility on UN
Started my first doom 2016 run yesterday on ultra-violence yesterday, ive beaten it before but I really want to 100% it
(I would've done a harder difficulty but my last saves from a decade ago got lost)
Miracle of miracles, I didn’t fall in argent tower
Three classic maps down…ten to go.
Without spoiling anything
How would I go about finding obscure secret areas in the campaign?
Look at anything climbable or interactive
Random levers buttons screend can work
Some needd backtracking scarred getting keys
hey guys i need some help with doom 2016, it just stutters and doesnt stop stuttering, my pc is a ryzen 5 5500 rtx 3050 gpu 16gb ram and its installed on a 1tb ssd
if anyone can even look at the issue im having, that would be greatly appreciated
look around for interactable stuff
not sure if anyone is a tech expert here
alr time for some more UN attempts
GL!
The question is whether my laz labs run yesterday was legit or if I’m gonna go back to dying in the first 3 levels again lol
Finished the res ops gore nest with 18 HP 
That fight is so damn hard man
tagging you in to #general cuz I g2g for now
Wow that’s 2 runs in a row that have made it past foundry
I think that’s actually the first time I’ve ever done that 
Quick question, do y'all prefer the normal doom 2016 mancubus or the cyber-mancubus
Definitely the regular mancs
Just got to advanced research complex
It simultaneously gets both easier and harder from here
bro since when can the cyberdemon one-shot you from full health
what is this nonsense
I had 195 health and his frickin weird blade attack instakilled me
did it somehow make contact with my hitbox twice? no idea, but I'm dead now 
well there's 4 hours down the drain
Since, there is absurd damage multipilier (3.0 or something) it's expectable, in my opinion. I remember blade and especially laser deals a lot of damge.
Most funny thing - when I did Pistol run here, I got killed by his wall. 😅
It's 40*3 with player damaga 1.0, which mean 120 damage per scythe attack. So, while it shouldn't kill with 195 probably it can kill with a bit less.
So yeah it may be a bug, like with Pinkies insta killing with charge attack.
un attempt number 4 in the past 3 days and I've managed to make it out of kadingir 3x in a row
I sure as hell hope I'm not gonna die to the cyberdemon three times in a row also lmao
My doom 2016 jus constantly stutters on my pc, and ive tried every possible fix and nothing works, it jus stutters even tho my pc runs other games flawlessly
idk maybe check settings for graphic or something
Im acc gna commit certain atrocities to myself if i see this bullshit please never utter such stupidity again
idk maybe check settings for graphic or something
Did u jus fuckin copy and paste it
maybe :3
Bruh i wanna play doom 2016 so bad but cant what the fuk
what graphics card do u use cuz i have theroy
I have rtx 3050 (8gb version)
maybe its like sonic racing transformed where it cant handle rtx graphics cards
But that doesnt make any sense tho man
best i can think of i aint a tech guy
maybe ask somewhere else
Hard to determine, try Vulkan API in settings and see how it fares
Alr tried it
It actually may have sense, since some modern graphic cards may have issues with older games. And I already heard about such issues for owners of most recent RTX cards.
Usually (not related to cards) it was issue with Vulkan or OpenGL, in some cases it was related to drivers (too old or too new).
Does it have any message spam in in-game console?
Good luck with it! Hope you'll be able to beat it - if I remember correctly I beated it once and I definitely won't return to UN ever again. Really don't like permadeath/1 life thing.
The cyberdemon is dead
Fuck that guy in particular
Guy still almost managed to kill me but thankfully I didn’t use up saving throw
If you're running it with discord open , try disabling the discord overlay
then I'm afraid your best bet is contacting the Bethesda tech support, never experienced issues with this game
What about Steam overlay?
The only other solution is to lower all setting, see, if that helps and add 1 by one to see, which may be a cause.
It also may be something related to other programs or FPS non-capped or graphic card is OC.
Jus assume ive alr tried everything
Then Bethesda tech support is your best way to go. Mention everything you tried just in case, if you plan to contact them.
the only issue i experienced is that after i glory killed a jetpack demon guy my game crashed
The summoner needs to be removed
It's absolute buns
It sucks booty and it spams shi
Me beating titan’s realm without taking any hits 
And I only used the BFG once I think
Ugh time for Vega core
My nemesis
But I’m actually using the BFG now so it should be ok
Honestly, they are very rare and quite weak in my opinion. Damage and speed are fine, but summons can be good or useless and Lock On is instant death to them.
Archviles are cooler, even though I like Summoner design and idea a bit more.
got boxed into a corner lol
lost my megahealth and died in about 2 seconds
3 unavoidable soldier charged plasma bolts and a baron hulk smash, and boom, dead
💀 🫂 🫡
Well, good try, anyway, since you were able to go so far. If you try again, hope you would be able to finish UN run fully.
I also sometimes died in 2016 and especially in Eternal, when I got swarmed or cornered, so I try to avoid it by any means at this point.
I could have gotten out of the situation if I just used the bfg
but I'm not used to using it at all so I took too long to find the hotkey 
Did you try Nightmare run not long ago before or do you want to go through UN without it?
are you playing ultra nightmare? if you play wolfenstein 2 gl doing it 💀
This is UN in 2016
gotcha nice
i haven't even done it yet since i'm still on the old blood in order since i do achievements anyways
Guys…. Pinky’s suck
But without pinkies, your hand grip will be ineffecient

Pinkies are M-M-M-MID
Nah screw mid, they’re awful
Chat y'all fw the new pfp
yeah it's unique
Is there a specific way of going about the private matches in multiplayer? I'm trying to invite my friend so I can get the last 2 achievements but it just keeps saying "connection timed out" for him when he tries to join me
and its not like either of our internet is bad either, we can join and play fine on any other game, just not this
Anyone here mind helping out with mulitplayer achievements sometime? ^^
Anyone here mind helping me not choke my UN attempts 
Once I get to that achievement, I think my strat will be to pick a health number, say like 30. And every time you get down to that number, reload the last checkpoint since death will be likely at that point
You can’t reload checkpoint in UN
Plus there are a fair number of attacks that can instakill you even from 100+ health, so odds are if you’re at 30 health, it’s already too late
Like the cyberdemon, for example—his blade attack deals 120 damage and in his second phase he tosses out 3 of them in quick succession
I mean for this game if you're doing UN simply for the experience (literally zero rewards) you might as well commit and just play without reloading saves
Ohhhh you're doing more than just the UAC UN achievement mb
Yeah I’m doing the whole thing
Beating the first level on UN isn’t that bad
If you do end up dying it’s pretty much always in the first arena when you don’t have a weapon mod yet, so a restart is basically just doing the arena again
I'd be down to help a little for the gold medal/detect 20 players, those are the only 2 I need
I BEAT DOOM 2016!!
Nice!!
Hey guys im getting the doom 2016 on my birthday
have fun!
its kinda better if you get doom the dark ages but ok
Don't kill vro's excitement like that, 2016 is peak
if im on cyber demon fight how close am i to giving olivia 2 shells to the face???
A few levels away, you're basically in the third act of the game I'd say
oh ok
yeah, all three of these modern Dooms like to end-load their boss fight
probably to make sure you're fully kitted-out
I think Dark Ages was particularly silly about it though
22 missions and no actual unique bosses until mission 20
and then you just basically get all of them at once
i think it was fine
lots of mini bosses throughout with the leaders and then also the agaddon introduction
made the build up to the actual boss fight feel very earned and worth it when it finally happened
i mean im not gonna @ the guy in the other channel just to respond to his point
i mean im just saying that there's channels for these conversations
I can help
What console you play?
I'm on PC
I cant help ya then
But im sure there are others that can
We should organize like a mini community for multiplayer doom
The Doom invaders
Ooo yaya :0
Do you think i should do that?
I think that'd work out well yea
I could use the help if ur on PS and still up for it
Indeed I am
Though I will be busy for a few days
However it can be used to build the entourage
I mean can you imagine being able to manually host a entire multiplayer branch of the doom server?
kinda true but i didnt rly notice it that much
the champions across the game kinda help in that regard
I really liked those guys and I kinda wished there were more
maybe the DLC will have an Archvile champion 😄
it feels like... you've got the different demon species as always, but now within those species there are certain demons who are more skilled than others. which is just really cool
i play doom 16 and i love the various weapons
Super Shotgun
Lemme know when yall get a pc multiplayer game going on, i litteraly just want to get to level 5
I wanna get all the things 😅
Howdy folks, just finished TDA, super awesome playthrough. I haven't bothered to look it up but I wanted to get in with the community, but I was curious:
The scene where the slayer wakes up in hell and is detaching himself from the pile of corpses back in 1st person, that's definitely a callback to the opening of 2016, right??
yeah it is
I knew it, no way it was a coincidence. Loved seeing that.
Ye
Guess who just got doom 2016
I have gotten all achievements except multiplayer ^^
Are u by any chance on PS? I also am trying to get the achievements and I have 1 other guy willing to play
But we still would need 1 more so anybody else willing to help? Pls
Noo I'm on PC


How far into doom 2016 does it get good
I find that most doom games start off slow and then get really fun when you unlock most stuff
Main menu
Ok but like seriously
No that is my serious answer
Good is subjective, I started digging the game as soon as the fleshy fire menu came on
Oh ok lol
Also I just wanna flex the fact I own the entire doom 2016 soundtrack on vinyl
Not the DOOM games I’ve played
I find eternal a bit slow to start with before you unlock the dash or the super shotgun, and dark ages was a bit slow at the start as well before I unlocked the flail
2016 is basically the same
I don’t think slow is the right word
I think boring might be a better word, as soon as I unlocked the super shotgun in eternal it got really fun
I was struggling with zombies before that on the highest difficulty bc I couldn’t go that fast
I guess 2016 isn't necessarily slow at the beginning on nightmare, it's just ball-bustingly hard
because fodder all deal ridiculous amounts of damage and you've got basically no health to speak of
I kinda dig that
I like when Nightmare is actual bullshit to keep up with what DOOM 1 set in stone: it's meant to be an absurd challenge only for the top of the top
I think I got up to the part where I got my first mod for my shotgun, I was struggling quite a bit with most fodder demons
Eternal and TDA feel rather weak in that regard but I know liking BS NM is a hot take
ehhh
nightmare in OG doom is essentially a planning/RNG challenge
not exactly what I'd call enjoyable
I see it as more of an endurance test mode than a real difficulty to complete. D3 and D2016 hit the sweet spot imo of being both absurd and doable
the thing about doom 2016 is that the player power gets really out of control very fast
so you've got a ridiculous early game combined with an end game that isn't that hard
The first few levels are hard enough to make up for the latter half I feel
Getting that Toe Into Madness achievement was agony
How do you get that achievement?
beat the first level without dying on UN
Ive beaten 2016 before, but i guess my data didnt save or something, I don't mind beating it again and unlocking everything including the 2 harder difficulties
Yesterday I played Rich get richer rune trial like 20 times (out of failure
) before I had to go
I'm on UV because I just assumed there's probably an achievement associated with it, if not I enjoy the difficulty
I'm online on PC if anyone wants to join a public match ^^
I do think Eternal shoulda given you the dash in the first level, there was really no reason for withholding it. The level basically teaches you about weakpoints and then leaves you alone -- there's plenty of space for one more thing
Similar feeling about the shield throw in TDA, but at least in that case the first level was already teaching a lot so it made some sense to pace it out
Even then there’s a few end game rooms that can end you id you don’t tackle it proper.
Should DOOM 2016 get a next gen update
No
hey guys
can someone help me with some atchievemnts pls
i cant find a match in doom multiplayer
Doom 2016 was actually my personal favorite
same problem
Try changing the region, that worked for me last night
how?
Olá gringos
Click on the multiplayer option on the main menu and I believe your region is at the very bottom
Olá brasileiro
tem brasileiro aq?
English only please
okok
thank you 🙂
does anyone know if the multiplayer servers are still up?
because i wait like an hour to join a party but theres nothing
does anyone still play doom multiplayer or am i the only one?
Prob only one
i was playing yesterday and oly works when yoou change the region
wich region
just try all
you want to make the achievements?]
what do you mean
i see
europe is usually the only spot with active lobbies anymore
yeah
got it
but you will play with the same peaple evry match
ill test it out now if it doesent work ill get back to you guys
ok mate
if you want you can call me too and we play together
i aint good at this game
same
dont worry aim doesnt matter much if you just spam the static cannon lol
it sorta works
i went on every mode
but it keeps saying connecting and then waiting for 3 players
yeah team deathmatch is usually the only one people still play
stick to team deathmatch on europe servers, it just takes forever to fill up
nice one, hope you get a full match going
fck sakes i give up ive been in a lobby for 20 minutes an theres no one
try in a different time
like
8 pm
stick to team deathmatch, it's usually the only mode with people playing anymore
ok
try team death match too
do you guys think a gtx 1650 can run doom the dark ages?
not sure tbh but i think it might struggle since it's next gen only, maybe on low
yeah maybe. might have to turn off hdr and some other graphics settings in the games files
You need an GPU with RT capabilities
well about that
i kinda have it
i think
because when i play god of war on high graphics wich has a lot of ray tracing it works fine
tbh 1650 doesnt have actual rt cores so it might struggle, just use fsr if it supports it
technically you could get it running thru some stuff with an GTX 1650 but it will be neither pretty nor run well enough
it will not
the game requires a GPU that is capable of ray tracing, so you need a 2000 series nvidia card there
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what
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uhhhh
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I'm Russian and I'm here. I don't plan to play MP, though.
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You can direct message me, if you want, but I don't know what would be a reason, if you don't have Doom 2016.
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If you are about piracy - it's not allowed here.
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If you want to buy Doom 2016, I'm pretty sure there are options - just use Yandex search.
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There is also a GOG release, but I do not know if it is available in Russia
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Even, if it's available, I'm not sure you can buy anything there, since GOG doesn't do commercial transactions with Russia, unlike Steam.
https://www.gog.com/ru/game/doom_2016
Yeah, available, but you most likely won't be able to buy it.
I recommend to go to VK (aka Vkontakte) and search for other players - they may give better suggestions.
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Get region free keys for steam, i got mine for Eternal DLCs , Wolfenstein and Quake games on platimarket
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alternatively switch steam region to elsewhere
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that honestly doesn't matter, i switched regions twice by now, first to Turkey and then to Kazakhstan , you just don't need to buy stuff immediately after region switch
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If you're that afraid of the ban just buy region free steam key for the game
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It's not free obviously, and price depends on whoever sells the steam key
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then i hope you will find some way around this problem on your own 🫡
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Are u on PS by any chance?
no
no
my friends give me DDA
but doesnt runs
Replaying this game rn and I fucking love when the Doom 3 music starts playing mann
It's peak
yeah mick really nailed that remix, hits so hard
I wish the DOOM 3 part was a little longer
true, that remix is such a tease for how good it is
multi for playstation? hop on/dm me
no offences
but I have a question for girls here
How did you fall in love with DOOM franchise?
I thought girls love games with deep story like witcher 3 or last of us
again no offences
its just to achieve something in my project
well basically i played doom and it was fun
M1 I didn't know you were a girl lol
It's the same way guys do. That's it.
I don’t think you have to be a woman to think that question is weird
well yeah
For me my big sister who teach me to play doom, and turok 2, hexen
If anyone wants the platinum send me a dm
The better question is how could anyone not like DOOM?
for free ??
Unless the project is how to not interact with members of the opposite sex, let's keep these kind of questions out of the server.
aaaanyways
shameless plug
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IVtVkP46kjs
Yes, I did some DKSMSing. No, I'm not sorry.
Part of one of my UN attempts where I unfortunately choked in VEGA Core.
No BFG, equipped runes were Vacuum, Blood Fueled, and Armored Offensive.
this was from one of my UN runs
man i should probably get around to trying to do doom 2016 un, though im not sure how much harder it is compared to eternals
@obsidian dirge you’ll be happy to know I DKSMSed a few times 
I will say it’s really helpful in UN especially
Because you can just save 6 combat points by ignoring the faster charge upgrade and only getting outer beam
Which lets me get remote det mastered sooner
Was actually a game changer in my runs
Definitely contributed to me making it past the halfway point of the campaign so often
Because I could get the cluster strike mastery, then remote det, then the double tap ssg mastery without having to worry about siege mode mastery at all
idk how people can UN 2016. Propssss
Well I haven’t done it yet 
what are you on now? Level*
well my most successful run is to vega core
the video is from a couple runs ago
I'll probably get another attempt or two in tonight
I believe my total number of failed runs (including my old runs which weren't optimized as well) is 27
but of the 5 runs I've done most recently, 4 of them have gotten past foundry and 3 of them have gotten to the cyberdemon, which is farther than any of my old runs got
Need more people to join got 3 atm
Is the offer still actual?
Doom gotta be the most not hated game on earth
Like 20 bucks for doom 2016 is worth every cent
Even dark ages that's like 60 bucks
Yeah I've got a group chat for it but there is only 3 people including me
here we go again
I love how the best policy in like 90% of these early encounters is to play it like a tactical shooter
Using the tactical scope mod to get the imps before you enter the tower feels like you’re the sniper on a cod team
my route has me grabbing micromissiles instead of the scope
they also work well in the tower because the missiles have tracking
I got both mods but at that cost never modded the plasma rifle on my first run
well I'll end up getting both mods just because why not
but early game I stick with MMs
Same here
The explosive shot mod for the combat shottie is better than the multi fire one honestly
Bruh Samuel’s cutscene at the end of res ops gets so old 
I just noclip right through the end room.
For the Argent Revisited tram cutscene I just use a timescale toggle. I hate Samuel so much in this game.
Stop wasting my time twin.
alr just beat argent facility destroyed
I'm honestly dreading lazarus labs
just can't seem to figure out a consistent way to beat the cyberdemon
he always seems to pull out some kind of bullshit out of nowhere
beat the cyberdemon
easy peasy
finally realized that all it takes is to stun him with the bfg once in his first phase and 3x in his second phase and burst him down with damage while he's stunned
used all my bfg ammo but who cares
good job!! Hardest one behind you
it's finally over
last level was probably the most nervous I've ever felt playing a video game lol
28 times is the charm, apparently
4 hours and 54 minutes
Congratulations! Really big thing! Glad that you achieved it!
Completely understandable! 😄 Same - I probably finished it once and never want to return again. I don't have enough patience to die somewhere in the end and then start over again. You have really strong dedication for sure.
YAYYY GG!!
thanks lm
hows the multiplayer servers been lately?
Dead
Opa, bom dia, algum BR?
tbf doesn't the game just hand you those like it's nothing
who are you, an ultra nightmare survivor to deny the using what the game provides
also stellar work I could never UN 2016
Yeah kinda
But I also didn’t have ammo boost upgraded
UN 2016 is actually pretty easy for the most part. It stops sucking after you max out HP.
eternal and 2016 for some fucking reason having the hardest parts be the third level 🤝
Foundry actually isn’t terrible
If you struggle the BFG's right there.
The res ops gore nest is by far the hardest part of the campaign
Every fight is pretty winnable normally though.
fall damage and falling death are absolutely ludicrous
Except for maybe VEGA Core.
Yeah but it sucks balls before you get the BFG
Hence why only 4 runs out of 28 tries actually made it to the cyberdemon
2016's praetor suit is so funny. You have this cool outfit that does fuckall for you during combat, doesn't help you survive long falls, doesn't target enemies or do anything cool or useful, and random third parties like VEGA and Hayden can just install bullshit on top of it.
I think the Praetor suit allows you to have armor and convert demon guts into health
The former was still doable even before we had the Praetor suit
In the old games sure, but you still need some kind of armor suit to have armor
I love how inaccessible armor is in 2016
Even the classic suit from the Slayer’s past had some protection
???
Every single DOOM game has the player character wearing some form of protection
The floor here is made of fucking floor dude
The Praetor suit having armor is a quality not unique to it whatsoever, it's the bare minimum, so yeah, I don't think it redeems it
2016's got bad balancing, this we know
I don’t even care about the rest of this conversation, it’s just squid going “you need armor to have armor”. Like no shit dude.
well his point about the suit allowing you to get health back from killing demons is true
He seemed to be able to do it without it in TDA just fine.
Both Eternal and TDA also show he's more than perfectly capable of surviving harsh environments like space vacuum and potential radiation waves without any form of protection covering his skin so it kinda begs the question what does the 2016 suit ACTUALLY do.
Look cooler than the Eternal one
Ehhh I don't know.
I think that's where the qualities end
The chestplate is kind of fugly.
I also don't care much for the covered biceps. If it took after the Eternal suit in some ways like the little access port bits and the mini battery compartments then yeah sure.
I also like how beefy the TDA suit makes him look. 2016's looks emaciated.
I don't like the vomit colors and oversized helmet on the Eternal one
TDA and Eternal don't follow 2016 in 1:1. Also about vacuum thing - it's absurd. Generally speaking there are quite few things in Eternal, which are absurd (like Slayer shooting himself like projectile and other stuff). I generally dislike a lot desire to show Slayer "cooler than Chuck Norris" after 2016. Sure, in 2016 he was also like god-like, but it was way more grounded. But must admit it's funny, when Slayer does all these things in Eternal and then can't melee zombie and dies from it.
From what I remember all upgrades and abilities are related to suit in 2016: health, armor, ammo, suit upgrades, argent cells upgrades and runes. Maybe even Glory Kills. That's why at the start of a game, Slayer can't GK or get health.
The only issue I have with suit thing in 2016 is that it somehow gives ammo, like if non-argent weapons would work on argent stuff thing. But that's like why there are human weapons in Titan's Realm. Maybe I forgot and humans or human like species were there, but not sure about that.
Also regarding previous things:
It does help survive long falls, but only for certain height. All Runes and Suit upgrades do useful things. Same for Eternal with only difference it has now separate upgrade for grenades, flaming belch and dash (and it has blade for visuals).
We do love our bicep windows
Also want to add, that it's fair to say that outside of specific predetermined cases fall protection isn't very big.
noGroundKillPlayerFallDist = 1500; Which is like x17 Slayer height, which is like 34 meters with taking 2 meters height of Doomguy (?).
I find the goofy Slayer cool guy antics in 2016 more fitting since we weren't 100% sure if he was an old character by then. With Eternal, if you try to beef him up AND make me believe he's the same guy as from the originals, then I'm struggling to follow
The absurdity of Eternal and TDA aren't the least bit related to how useless the 2016 suit is in the context of Doom 2016. You're constantly limited gameplay wise by it with shit like fall damage, the geriatic runspeed and the pitiful amounts of HP regained from killing enemies which the suit is supposed to assist you with. Narrative wise, you have VEGA nonchalantly climbing in without your authorization and the whole affair with Samuel's tethers.
I just fail to understand how someone blessed by a literal angel and fabled to be strong enough to kill titans with his own hands in lore would need a hitech suit to survive human environments, and also manage to be completely defenseless against a swarm of small imps.
Just saying, but if I woke up after centuries of slumber only to find someone was able to strip off my hi-tech mega indestructible powersuit, I would think twice before putting it on because God knows what the fuck they did to it. And 2016 is chockful of reasons why.
We're talking a dude who punched out an army officer, jumped into a teleporter at the end of the Phobos anomaly, was killed and sent to hell, rappeled down to the surface, made it out alive, then went on another rampage after finding out killed his literal pet rabbit.
His entire approach is 'fuck the rules'. The cannon scene may be silly but it's completely inline for him, as well as shooting a hole into Mars to spite Hayden. The problem I find in 2016's approach is that isn't particularly consistent with this. Doomguy wants to break the rules but then HAS to listen to Hayden ramble on for minutes to tell him where to go and what to do, only to get fucked over by him at the end of the game.
I get what you're asying but I think it's a veeery big leap from the originals to the new games still. He always was a badass, but I'm saying that instead of him being a fairly grounded badass he became a badass less grounded than a plane
It's very sloppy. It's like they wanted to play it both ways with Doomguy having an oldschool self-destructing rebel approach but then had to convince the newcomers that there was a story to follow that you should be invested in despite it being so simplistic and obvious at a glance. It kinda falls apart if you think about it longer than a second.
The demons had only managed to get the suit off of him because he was unconscious after they dropped a temple on him.
So I’d say the armor is still fine.
I mean was he ever really grounded? He has canonically done stupid hotheaded things before that stretched out plausibility. Starting and ending with fending off a whole Earth invasion on his own with a double barrel coachgun and 6 weapons on his person.
If anything I think groundedness has consistently taken a backseat after the 1st game in both classic and the new trilogies. The critical aspect that differentiates 2016 from DE and TDA is its smaller scope to set the groundwork for what was to follow. If they had never played it up it would've turned stale seeing him just do 'normal' things the entire time.
Also, if you look around in the Fortress of DOOM in Eternal, you’ll see pieces of the 2016 suit. He rebuilt his suit because of that tether. And also, he didn’t willingly let Samuel install it, Samuel surprise-installed it when Doomguy entered his office.
Yes, I think he was
Having to suspend disbelief for a bit with the classic games happens too but not to the level of Eternal where I have to basically suspend any idea of reality
Yeah, because he had to dismantle it after the events of 2016. My point is with how supposedly hypercapable and advanced the praetor suit is, seeing how easily Hayden was able to seize it and limit Doomguy's control of it is a little stupid. Overall the praetor suit in 2016 seems to have more downsides than upsides.
It just never really feels like it truly belongs to you.
I truly think that's less on the narrative aspect (which you're not meant to take at face value like the cannon sequence) and more on the approach surrounding every other aspect of the game's design. It's a modern game with modern sensibilities running on a modern engine that sorta attempts to look realistic but also doesn't, because the art direction suddenly decides it doesn't want to take itself seriously.
So when you have comedic scenes juxtaposed against the more 'realistic' backdrop of the game, it does look a little jumbled up and random.
He didn’t let Hayden do whatever though. Doomguy destroyed all the Argent production.
He was going to do it anyway. They were toying with literal hell energy.
That's a big no-no.
So you agree that he didn’t just let Hayden do whatever.
No because he didn't do it to spite him specifically. He did it because he needed to. Hayden keeps leading you by the nose regardless and you still carry out his bidding for him.
There's a difference between punching out an officer and explicitly going against his orders and choosing to simply not carry out the orders.
Whether or not it was to piss Hayden off, he did not let Hayden do whatever he wanted. Doomguy also doesn’t strike me as the type of person to do something like that solely to piss somebody off.
They are related because you compare 2016 and Eternal/TDA (in this situation or often in others), so they are relevant to our dialogue and expectations like vacuum and radiation. In this context survivng Mars atmosphere and Hell is a nice bonus from non-direct usefulness for gameplay.
fall damage
Fall damage is not fun gameplay wise, I agree, but more logical and grounded than teleportation in Eternal. There are limits to impact compensation. Doom 2016 went more for immersion, while Eternal for gameplay.
Runspeed is fair for Eternal too without Dash.
Amount of HP is balance issue not suit issue and it's only fair for 2016 Nightmare runs. where it's min/max balance.
VEGA/tethers aren't an issue of original suit, but upgrades, which were installed in it (hacked), while Slayer was unable to know, to oppose it or to have time to fix it (since invasion and stuff).
titans with his own hands in lore
That's issue with absurd lore as already said. There is constant run for coolness regarding Doom Slayer story, which I really dislike as I already said. And that severly escalated with Eternal.
Also he can't kill Titans with bare hands in any game, as far as I remember, so lore may be just part of tale about Slayer not "reality" about him.
would need a hitech suit to survive human environment
I mean with taking lore into account he does'n need weapons, health, armor either. Just kill everything with bare hands and call it a day.
and also manage to be completely defenseless against a swarm of small imps
Not completely defenseless in any game, but can be killed, yeah. But it's fair for any game including Eternal and TDA. Just as said in 2016 Slayer takes more damage on NIghtmare and has less health drops, which is balance issue.
I would think twice
Slayer didn't know about it and didn't have time to fix it. Suit is still better in 2016 than not having suit, since as I said it has a lot of upgrades and other benifits.
Well he didn’t just not do what Hayden said, he destroyed the majority of Earth’s energy production just as to remove Hell from the equation.
So you are agreeing he takes an implausible, impulsory, rebellious approach to solve a problem that bothers him?
Sounds like the DOOM Slayer to me
Yeah. I don’t know when I disagreed with that.
True. It's like pickups only and 1 Rune. Rune is really good, but still an issue, especially with Rune appearing only around the middle of a game.
Devs could make simple random drop from any enemy for that, but I guess they just overlooked some balance and gameplay aspects.
You did when you claimed he did it solely to spite Hayden and not because he needed to stop hell energy distribution. Hayden's wishes didn't matter in the least because Hayden is nothing but a mission dispenser.
I could concede that it did piss him off but that wasn't intentional. He seems indifferent towards Hayden.
I think you might be misinterpreting my previous messages. I did bring up the fact that he defied Hayden, but I wasn’t insinuating that he did it only to piss him off, it was simply a rebuttal.
I could also concede that it's the one time in the game where he did feel like the Doomguy of old instead of being all 'ok Mr Hayden I will retrieve the maguffin sword for you no questions asked'.
He carefully released the hinges his own way, because he doesn’t care
Yeah I get that. I think we can agree Doomguy is a cool dude. Eh kills demons and doesn't afraid of anything.
Why do you think Doomguy is subservient to Hayden or something?
He wants the demons gone too.
Doomguy is NOT like that with Hayden
He simply abides since he doesn’t care
It’s even mentioned in the game
That you don’t need his help
Hey what does it mean when
"This match is currently closed to joining"?
Im trying to play multiplayer with people and I can't join for some reason?
VEGA and the Intern play mission control too but they’re not in charge of Doomguy either.
'Well he needs weapons anyway and of course he can die because it's a game' isn't the thoughtful rebuttal you think it is. My argument is very simple. Both gameplay and narrative in 2016 are heavily insistent that Doomguy is super strong and capable, and yet none of his feats could be attributed to the fact he's wearing the praetor suit. Under scrutiny you realize it's actually a detriment for him to be wearing it.
I'm going to let you in on a little secret. The only reason the lore insists that it's mega important is because the game was rebooted from its original pitch. The original pitch for 2016 was a hard reboot of Doom 1, with the UAC base being overrun by demons. Doomguy's entire platoon wearing hi-tech armor and wielding Plasma Rifles gets killed off, while Doomguy is left with an old ass suit and a HAR to fend for himself.
They didn't want to ditch the suit, so they worked up some bullshit about it being ancient or whatever despite it being obviously human design and that's why he sticks with it. It's not actually special, they just say it is lol. It's some random ass suit.
Well I dunno dude why don’t you go fight a Hell knight without any armor and see how you fare.
Nah for clarification's sake I'm not saying the suit is entirely useless. It's just not 'indestructible' and 'helps him absorb enemy vitality' it's just a random suit. 2016 is just weirdly insistent that it does everything for Doomguy despite also establishing that he's superhuman.
Doom fans talking about the stories as if in the end their not just popcorn flick script turned into videogame story
even 2016, imo the peak, is just the ''this is fun but not that good'' story category
It may not be “indestructible” but neither is Doomguy.
Doom stories kind of exsist to add to the hype and aura and lunacy, not much more than that
But it does absorb Argent through the gloves of the suit. It’s written in one of the codex entries.
the end goal of a doom story isnt to be good, its to be hype and cool
i wish this wasnt the case but it seems to be
Alright well I still enjoy it so I’m gonna enjoy it.
According to the lore he is, but then we'd get into a gameplay vs lore debate. Point is the suit in 2016 was never meant to be that important. It's why they ran it back for Eternal and TDA and just made it a random cool piece of gear that can talk.
''waoh guys look at the cool shit the slayer can do wowowow''
yeah I enjoy it too, its FUN at the end of the day just not really that good. Internet users cant make that distincion most of the time, much less doom fans
He’s not indestructible though. Look at all of the death animations in 2016 when the demons kick his ass.
something can be fun while being by certain metrics bad
Again that's what I'm saying lol. I'm just mentioning the inconsistencies in gameplay and story because after all there needs to be a game. And games aren't very fun if you win all the time.
Well there’s certainly worse than the DOOM storyline. cough cough fnaf.
thats not relevant to this discussion and low bar
''lore accurate doom slayer mod'' mfs when they play them and realize the game is boring now bc theres no challenge
Yeah no the story inconsistencies in Doom are far, FAR less insidious than the ones in Scott Cawthons work.
I always found it also cool that the Slayer takes a beating from his enemies, but gets back up anyways. Which is more accurate to the gameplay
Whatever. Just let me enjoy it. You don’t need to tell me how bad it is, I still like it.
your in the internet, by being here you willingly choose to expose yourself to opinions that disagree with your own, im not telling you shit, im stating my opinion. I care little for what you enjoy
Hey how do I join someone in doom multiplayer?
im literally just expressing my opinion and you think im specifically telling you something? Not the case. And even if i was, why do you care about what others think of something you like to such a degree where you ask people not to say their opinions?
have you ever heard of not giving a fuck, it does wonders
Yeah, sure, but also it’s kinda annoying when I say I like something (in the server for people that like that thing) and you go “oh well it sucks”.
grow a backbone, its how opinions work, you shouldnt be annoyed by people expressing themselves
much less over videogames
Well now you're being a dick. Asking people not to be annoyed at you is asking them to not be human. You're not putting forward opinions anymore. You're actively being unlikable.
I'm sure you know that.
i should have worded myself differently, I meant to say that I will still express myself regardless of their annoyance
its just a videogame opinion, i will speak my mind and if it annoys them thats their problem
It also wasn’t just “hey I dislike the story but that’s just me”. You were kinda gloating and acting superior about disliking it.
how exactly, im curious
and again you missed my point too, I dont dislike the modern doom stories
i find them fun even if I dont think their fundamentally good
and in the end the fun i get from watching the hype moments and aura trumps the dissapointment I get from a lackluster quality in the story when it comes to doom bc the games as a whole are a mishmash of hype moments and aura in gameplay too, so the hype moments and aura driven story adds to that in the end
“Doom fans talking about the stories as if in the end their not just popcorn flick script turned into videogame story” you said it like you realize it’s bad and we don’t and it’s actually secretly terrible.
that comment was mostly unserious but sure I can understand how it comes off as that, plus it also adds me into the mix bc I too talk alot about Doom stories
Everyone needs to remember to be respectful, no name calling or such. If you can't communicate or disagree in a civil manner then you can take a break
yeah idk what I did to be called a dick but oh well its the internet what am I gonna do about it
isn't the thoughtful rebuttal you think it is
It is.
Both gameplay and narrative in 2016 are heavily insistent that Doomguy is super strong and capable
True about narrative, but not about gameplay in any game. Sure, he's stronger than normal human in reboot and lore-wise I'm not sure that he can be killed unlike gameplay-wise.
Gameplay-wise:
- In Doom 1 he's survives more thanks to weapons, health, armor and having luck of protagonist.
- In reboot thanks to health, armor, weapons, ability to refill them and Runes, suit upgrades. Edited: and lore+luck of protagonist too, lol.
and yet none of his feats could be attributed to the fact he's wearing the praetor suit.
I said many times about upgrades, you just ignoring it. Suit doesn't do his work, sure, but helps on a journey. It's not useless. And lore-wise - sure, he doesn't need suit, but as I said, if we take "cool" lore into account than whole gameplay should be based on Berserk powerup solely.
Random or not this suit clearly not uselss. In both 2016 and Eternal it's way more useful gameplay-wise than orginial armor in Doom 1, 2 due to possible upgrades.
That's my simple argument.
damn they were cooking this response for a while
oh wait we are in 2016 chat i lowkey thought we were in TDA
But it’s not inconsistent with the story. He is beatable.
no its not
honestly I wanna make a game and I will make the character like Dante from DMC cause I will make it hack and slash
and then I thought "it definitely men will like it but how about girls"
the reason for thinking that is I wanna make my game memorable and beloved for everyone
We're not having this conversation. It's sexist whether you like to believe that or not. End of discussion.
the biggest inconsistency I see with story and gameplay is the implied power of the Slayer, the story does it to hype you up which is good, but sometimes when comparing to the gameplay you get a little confused in retrospect when its evident that hes moreso a super soldier and expert marksman than a 100% melee unbeatable godlike creature. What makes the Slayer cool in the end for me is just how good he is at what he does that despite his vulnerabilites and even past deaths, he refuses to give in and pushes through
Hey I need help troubleshooting multiplayer
I've been trying to play the game for a goddamn hour and a half
there is no any f*** sexual sh** in this
I didn't mention that
its just I dont know what girls like to play
the demons do land hits, but he gets back up and thats imo way cooler than outright unbeatable
Helllo?!
What makes you think that it's any different? The fact that you don't understand how you're being is actually mindboggling
I think the match you’re trying to join is set to private
Try asking later, now's a nerd talk paired up with mod talk
Can I?
The same shit dudes like to play, are you paying attention?
This isn't rocket science
talking as someone with a gf here, there is a occasional tendency (probably born out of gender roles) like playing more story driven games with less of the male fantasy with guns aspect for example. This doesnt apply to all girls at all, to think so would be stupid, but due to the nature of gender roles and society there is a apparent divide between what girls and boys play sometimes, not always
Try to message whoever’s match it is and ask if they could invite you.
its not rocket science like the other person said, anyone plays anything at the end of the day
They're trying
I doesn't let us join no matter what we do
They activate the invite but no dice
Ah. I don’t know how to help then. Maybe just start a new one.
Sorry.
Ok
Like public or private?
i havent encountered many girl doom players but many tf2 girl players for once
Please stay out of it
okay rude
- It isn't because you're stating the obvious.
- I'm talking purely in the context of 2016. Hayden and VEGA are easily able to graft shit on top of it. The scientists studying Doomguy were able to remove it from him. Seems a lot more basic than the lore insists that it is.
- Being able to swap weapons faster, hold two nades at once, ledge grabbing? Those are the upgrades? Are we for real? Runes would've been more fitting, but even then how can we be sure he needs the suit for it? The only one that ACTUALLY matters is explosive barrel invulnerability and even then Eternal's can do it too.
Again, I really hate that 2016 takes the angle of the suit doing all the work when Doomguy is so capable on his own and nothing about it is that remarkable. It's pretty dumb.
Anyway I'm done with the argument, it's boring, going nowhere and I don't think I'm going to be changing my mind.
so my fear is not real
its just my head is going crazy
Maybe try public.
ill oblige though, have fun
You weren't the one being addressed and frankly your opinion wasn't asked. I know you're heated about previous conversations but please stay out of this one.
im not really heated about the previous conversation at all, but your first point is fair even though someone else tagged in and you havent said anything to them either (unless they were in the convo before and I dont know lol)
regadless, adieu
@sonic stratus did you reserve the chainsaw for any particular demon in UN or not im curious
Doesn't work either
What am I doing wrong?
How does the multiplayer work?
Im trying my best to play the game


