#doom-2016

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rocky egret
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Oh wait

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Nvm

strange dove
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pocket long range crucible with more ammo genuinely

rocky egret
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Killed the big bad spider demon and saved the whole world (kinda), and in a few days ill be able to get doom eternal and doom the dark ages

potent mountain
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very based

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theyre all great games for different reasons

rocky egret
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Honestly doom 2016 feals like what halo infinite could have been if it was mabe by a competent company

olive tendon
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hope you enjoy them bro. love the doom games.

rocky egret
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What it should have been

rocky egret
olive tendon
# rocky egret Me too

they’re so fire. couldn’t get enough of them. started wolfenstein 3d bc of them 🔥

autumn barn
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I wish more than anything that Halo was like DOOM

rocky egret
autumn barn
olive tendon
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glory kill in halo would be dopee

rocky egret
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Doom slayer is actually the grandson of the wolfenstein mc

olive tendon
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yea fount that out bc someone ive became friends with started telling me the whole lore while we were boosting 2016 😂😂

rocky egret
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Nice

olive tendon
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pretty cool. pretty cool.

rocky egret
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For guns

autumn barn
ocean grove
maiden urchin
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on the topic of Halo, apparently Doom 2016 multiplayer was handled by the same people who made Halo 4 multiplayer

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which is interesting to say the least...

jaunty elm
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Does anyone know what is the best course of action to get all of the multiplayer achievements now times?

honest umbra
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And regarding more gore beyond the Flood and exceptions like that, Bungie tried to make it work again and again but it just doesn't work with Halo.

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Although I wouldn't mind a spin-off not connected to the mainline games that does some of that and tries new things too.

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A DOOM 3 style game where you play as a Marine on a Flood-infested UNSC ship would be pretty rad.

brave cloak
hasty beacon
random osprey
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Is this so you don't fall asleep during Samuel's dialogue?

brave cloak
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Samuel is so boring. He deserved to be destroyed in eternal

random osprey
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True

random osprey
hasty beacon
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samuel hayden i love your design but

brave cloak
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STOP. TALKNG.

hasty beacon
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please

random osprey
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Very tough

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I'll keep quiet

hasty beacon
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im find with replaying the mission itself since

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ive got a super shotgun mastery to farm for

random osprey
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I love using the super shotgun along with the Gauss rifle

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I LOVE THAT

brave cloak
lament girder
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Bro did nothing but yap on and force you to sit through unskippable sections.

brave cloak
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When a normal dude is like a monster or smth

lament girder
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He singlehandedly kills the pace everytime he appears in 2016. I hate it.

brave cloak
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yep…

autumn barn
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I mean I like his voice, so I’m fine with it

strange dove
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his character was better but it is undeniable that it was annoying to sit and listen to him talk idfk what they were thinking with that

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Eternal also made this mistake in Nekravol as they force u to listen to his yap once more

lament bison
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Hi again guys....

mild wave
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Anyone who knows?

gritty trail
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If the file is corrupted it's gone

lunar nexus
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We all should know doom 2016 is the best version yet

random osprey
lunar nexus
maiden urchin
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Jesus Christ

random osprey
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You really are the expert.

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I love doom 2016

lunar nexus
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Same

random osprey
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In my opinion, the best.

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I also have a Nightmare save file at level 100%

lunar nexus
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When i beat the game 150 times im finna do ultra nightmare

random osprey
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Besides, in my opinion, it has what I call "absolute perfection" in its soundtrack.

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The OST is a mix of metal and electronic music.

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It is ETERNAL

oak lion
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I'm currently on my FIRST playthrough of the game. Yes I realize I'm 10 years late to the party but better late than ever. I'm not the greatest at first person shooters but after years of putting it off I really wanted to dive into Doom. I'm in a sci fi/horror/action mood lately. Its the perfect weekend to play it too as the northeast is getting clobbered with a winter storm right now. Rip and Tearing all weekend

random osprey
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DESTROY AND TEAR UNTIL YOU'RE GONE WITH THEM ALL

hasty beacon
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apparently something very funny was made in 2020 that i have somehow never heard about until a friend told me about it like an hour ago

hasty beacon
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embers of armageddon
a port of doom 2016's weapons, combat mechanics, and upgrade system to gzdoom

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it's so stupid (endearing)
i love it

random osprey
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*we love

maiden urchin
wild notch
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today I discovered you can center your viewmodels in 2016

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didn't know that

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thought that was only in eternal

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how do I actually take a screenshot, does photo mode work?

rocky egret
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Do we ever get an explanation to where doom guy stores all his guns?

gritty trail
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Hammerspace

brave cloak
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Wrong, he stores it up his asshole, pulling it out with ease

autumn barn
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I’m guessing in this one he stores some of them on his belt, and the more high tech ones can collapse into the Praetor suit

rocky egret
autumn barn
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Well the entire game is from a first person perspective pretty much, so use your imagination

sonic stratus
rocky egret
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Does the game get fuzzy and weird whenever invisible pinkys show up for anyone else?

autumn barn
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Maybe don’t look through the spectres

tacit summit
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Ummmm does anyone want to play doom 2016s multi-player on xbox if you have it or are interested

olive tendon
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r u trying to play for fun or are u going for achievements?

tacit summit
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Ummmm I guess going for achievements

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We could play free for all

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We might need some more people though

olive tendon
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they in a group on xbox. and half of them double box. idk what mode they do now but they was sector boosting when i was in there. my friend can add u in there they pretty active.

tacit summit
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ok

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My xobox name is meep master 777

olive tendon
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ok my friend gaston is going to add you. him and 2 others are playing the game rn i think. ill probably join off my 2nd box

elder meadow
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Anyone want to play Doom on Nintendo Switch?

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Doom 2021

brave cloak
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doom what

elder meadow
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Doom Nintendo Switch

brave cloak
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Uh-

obsidian dirge
rocky egret
rocky egret
autumn barn
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DOOM 2149

olive tendon
karmic herald
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hi, just bought doom 2016, i hope i enjoy it

stark parcel
long dock
sick lotus
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Does anybody play the multiplayer anymore for 2016? I used to love it but last time I tried I couldn’t find any matches

lunar tundra
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i wanna 100% it

sonic stratus
rocky egret
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Gotta say, for all people are like "don't turn on ray tracing" the steam deck handles it fine

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Until you encounter a partly transparent enemy

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Then it loses its mind

glass verge
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The music for this game is great

maiden urchin
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the fact that it can even run the latest Doom game is just as insane

honest umbra
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Valve and id's technical magic combined...

maiden urchin
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Yeah but the performance loss and battery consumption on Steam Deck there isn't really worth the trouble

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especially since 2016 aged so well visually

wicked jasper
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multiplayer for playstation? queue up 😝

snow scaffold
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anyone want coop on steam?

ocean grove
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the endings to all these games are abrupt

ocean grove
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main game Eternal is very abrupt, DLC isn't as much but still kinda is

potent mountain
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idk i felt like eternal's story was simple enough and concluded well

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2016's ending kind of confused me

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and the gap between it and eternal confused me too. how he got the fortress of doom and why he was even out of the tether in the first place

maiden urchin
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Won't surprise me if they decided to cut that part early when making Eternal

potent mountain
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yeah i saw that

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how was the tether thing explained?

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i didnt see that

gritty trail
gritty trail
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Idk it felt appropriate to end it there to me, you're given an oh shit moment then kicked out to let it hit in

keen rampart
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Someone doom 2016 multiplayer on ps4?

craggy dock
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can anyone help me get the gold rating in multiplayer on pc? I am incredibly tired of finding a game only for it to be a hacker

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legit can't get close to gold if I die every 2 secs

rocky canopy
craggy dock
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yea thanks for the info. But I still feel it would be easier to just get 4 people and grind the achievment real quick

lost helm
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still my favourite of the nudoom trilogy tho tbh

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samuel is just so imposing and Dr Samuel Hayden is a really good track in the ost

primal laurel
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Hello
Is anyone able to help me get this achievement?

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"A Memorable Performance"

stiff birch
timid sable
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I’m new to doom , started playing doom 2016 … today I got the crucible

karmic sonnet
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Got doom 2016 running natively on my android tablet so i can play at school lol. Using gamehub emulator and getting a stable 55 fps. Not too bad for an Arm chip

digital bay
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Awesome

craggy dock
versed quail
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Anyone wanna play 2016 on Switch?

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HMU

stark parcel
elder meadow
tough cave
# ocean grove the endings to all these games are abrupt

With 2016, I can understand it in the sense of how slowly the game gives you your full arsenal.
By the time you hit Vega's level, you're on the second last level before the finale. And by that time you do have your loadout. Compared to how every other Doom game gives you your arsenal much more sooner.

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Maybe only other Doom game that slowly gives you your full loadout is Doom 3.
But even then I feel the only gun the game doesn't drop onto you till much later is the BFG.

obtuse storm
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Any one up for multiplayer?

long dock
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As usual, when a person calls for a multiplayer session, I am commuting or at work -_-

long dock
elder meadow
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anyone doing achievements here? pc ofc

long dock
craggy dock
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Kinda just woke up and need to go to university now lmao

craggy dock
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Anyone up to do some MP achievements this weekend?

meager depot
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If you play Doom 2016 mp on Xbox let me know. My gamertag is NiceGodzilla

versed quail
versed quail
craggy dock
karmic sonnet
# stark parcel Gamehub as in the gamesir app?

yeah, gamesir's gamehub. Im using a Lenovo Yoga Tab Plus for context, but It should work fine with any other flagship phone/tablet, starting at something like the legion tab. For lower end, i don't think it will run well.

stark parcel
stark parcel
maiden urchin
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nothing ever is supported by iPhones 👍

obtuse storm
dull musk
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hello!

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I'm brand new to gaming and have chosen Doom as my first game

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I'm not really sure about what settings to use/change

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can someone help me with it?

autumn barn
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Are you on PC or console?

dull musk
autumn barn
# dull musk PC

Honestly I think the default keybinds are mostly pretty good, I have weapon mod swap set to R and chainsaw set to X. As for graphics, do whatever your PC is capable of, but I always set my frame rate to 60 FPS. And Hurt Me Plenty is a good start difficulty

crude pollen
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Man i wish 2016 was easy to find a game still on xbox

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Used to love playing

dull musk
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and the graphics at ultra? PC was bought last year, 5060 and a Ryzen 7 250

autumn barn
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If it runs well, sure

dull musk
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but I'm so worried about dying and running out of ammo

autumn barn
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You have to be aggressive, use the tools the game gives you and you will get back health and not run out of ammo, while having a lot of fun

dull musk
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oh okay

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I will try and enjoy myself now, I was too worried about dying

potent mountain
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thats the other thing. this game is meant to kill you. dont be afraid of dying, its just a way to learn about what mistakes you made and how to improve

spark drift
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If anyone wants to run DOOM 4 multiplayer DM me. I'm on PS4. My PSN is in my discord description too!

dull musk
pliant cipher
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Are the multiplayer servers for ps4/5 down for anyone else?

pale heath
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HIDEO KOJIMA

elder meadow
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anyone wanna do doom 2016 mp? i need bowling for gibs, terderizing the crops and eat your vitamins

cloud canyon
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I completely forgot about DOOM 2016 since I finished the campaign

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I don't think I might be able to actually 100% the game since Multiplayer is not playable basically

craggy dock
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With enough people it is

cloud canyon
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But want to try to get all single player campaign achievements

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Just missing the all data logs cause I missed one on mission 11, all weapon mods, all runes upgraded (I already have all collected) and Level 1 in ultra nightmare

craggy dock
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Stuffs pretty easy to do. The multiplayer achievements can easily be done in a group, except the ones you need to grind xp for. But theres ways for that

cloud canyon
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Never played on that dificulty and it is the hardest one

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I will try playing mp but if it takes too long I just leave the game without the mp achievements

rocky canopy
craggy dock
# cloud canyon Is the ultra nightmare one easy?

I wouldn't say "easy" but if you got the basics of the game down good enough you can do it first try. I mean you only have imps and soldiers to worry about and as long as you hit and keep moving it's totally alright

craggy dock
# cloud canyon I will try playing mp but if it takes too long I just leave the game without th...

For the mp I'd say you try to get a group together. Me and another guy are currently looking for people too, since we only need a few more achievements. Grinding xp can be annoying but if you really don't want to grind, there's a mod that allows you to gain xp in practice (bot) matches and you can also turn the xp gain up. It's kinda cheating, like really, but since the multiplayer is as good as dead with the few people playing it being cheaters, I'd say it's fair game

cloud canyon
rocky canopy
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you just gotta know when the most active times are in your timezone

cloud canyon
craggy dock
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yea that's doable

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tho idk if mouse and keyboard might be easier

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never really played shooters on controller

cloud canyon
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So yeah...

craggy dock
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well you got the discord server here

cloud canyon
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Might be easier to use the mod

craggy dock
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As I said, I am currently looking for people

cloud canyon
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I only play at weekends and not much, cause I also play many many other games and do other stuff on pc too

craggy dock
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I think there's like 3 achievements that you can't do solo even with the mod. For me that was gold rating and detect 20 enemies with the threat pulse

craggy dock
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if you want ofc

cloud canyon
craggy dock
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oh arcade is easy. you just follow a guide and you can do all in one run. You basically play a level of your choice and focus only on fighting. Kills give you medals etc

cloud canyon
craggy dock
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yea dude I'm the same I feel you

cloud canyon
cloud canyon
craggy dock
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I think

cloud canyon
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Oh yeah just checked

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The rest is all mp or the ones I am missing from single player and snap maps that I presume are the easiest ones

craggy dock
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snap maps is easy, but just time consuming. doing the tutorials takes a bit and it's all boring af imo

oak solar
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Hey is anyone still doing the multiplayer thing?

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Cause like
Im going for the Playstation platinum
So um... is multiplayer still a thing people do for this game?

maiden urchin
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that's precisely the case, not as many play for the fun of it unfortunately

cloud canyon
cloud canyon
maiden urchin
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almost every time i open this channel it's "help with multiplayer achievements pls!!!!!!"

errant hornet
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hello guys, someone for playing on multiplayer ?

craggy dock
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I can see the irony here

errant hornet
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im really serious

craggy dock
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You playing on PC?

errant hornet
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nop ps5, that's not crossplateform

craggy dock
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A shame. I‘m on pc

cloud canyon
maiden urchin
gritty trail
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I wish this channel would get discussion past "I need help with achievements"

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This is one of the best DOOM games and has a lot to talk about

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But it just doesn't happen

maiden urchin
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i love how in early test footage they used Doom 3 hell skyboxes

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then in release , Hell skyboxes look more in line with it.

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I wonder where did the decision to make hell go from yellow to orange/red came from

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plenty of hell concept arts had that yellow/greenish hue

ocean grove
maiden urchin
ocean grove
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I think the lava in the Foundry was also yellow but like I said, it's genuinely such a non-issue to me, I don't know why people complain about it lol

gritty trail
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It's just set in Mexico

autumn barn
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Remember, this is the same planet/asteroid belt that has Nekravol, The Forsaken Plains, The Blood Swamps, The Harbor of Souls, and Immora all as geographically distinct parts of Hell

tough cave
# gritty trail This is one of the best DOOM games and has a lot to talk about

One main component I wish Id would keep intact across the modern doom games was keep the level of immersion/interactivity.
Upon playing Doom 2016 again, seemed like a perfect mesh of classic Doom and Doom 3 as inspiration.
You can see plenty of Doom 3 influence throughout the UAC. Tbf, also helps that the lead environment designer is the same person that did Doom 3.

gritty trail
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I wish Eternal would keep 2016's atmosphere

tough cave
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One of my complaints for TDA being how it can strip away player involvement in favor of cutscenes.
Would've loved to climb into the mech myself, run up that staircase in the cosmic realm section, and other moments I'm probably incapable of remembering atm.

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Like Dead Space, Doom 2016 is a game with nearly no cuts.
You're entirely in control the whole time. Never any disconnect from you and Doom Marine.

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Outside of immersion.
Snap map always seemed cool, but I never experienced it during its prime. And I don't know how well the mode works for what the devs wanted to gift the playerbase

maiden urchin
gritty trail
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SnapMap is awesome to create in

tough cave
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I do know playing the multiplayer of Doom 2016 makes me wish Quake Champions did succeed. Eventually make console ports, implement crossplay, become big in esports if they wished, so forth.

autumn barn
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Same

tough cave
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The games I ever had the most fun with when it comes to PvP is TitanFall 2 and Quake Arena Arcade.

gritty trail
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I'm not big on QC, I'm fine with it fading away personally

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Rare Quake Arena Arcade mention?

tough cave
gritty trail
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I appreciate the music and the Doomguy skins but that's about it really. And more of Blazkowicz's voice is always great. I prefer 2016's MP by far

oak solar
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Ik achievement hunting can drag down an experience but they put it in for a reason
And im doing it for that it may be fun and achievement hunting
Two demons, one bullet

hasty beacon
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steam clip sharing isn't allowed?

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guess im not posting that

lost helm
warm idol
hasty beacon
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which means i'm outta luck for 100%ing that mission

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unless i want to restart the WHOLE CAMPAIGN.

lofty charm
grim iron
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how do i get good at this game? 50h and im still dying instantly on nightmare

potent mountain
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got any clips of you playing the game?

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otherwise you gotta make sure youre constantly moving

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use shotgun and remote det rocket launcher and siege mode gauss cannon

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and stun bomb on plasma rifle

tough cave
tough cave
true furnace
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Haha! I just beat the Cyberdemon :3

hard glade
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Hello, I've made a steam group for D2016 to help players find multiplayer lobbies. The premise is simple, all you have to do is join the steam group and anytime you or someone else is in a lobby, it will be visible on the group page and people can join you. It also has a pickup feature to ping other people when players are needed.

https://steamcommunity.com/groups/eternal-damnation

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i would really appriciate it if you shared this with your friends aswell

elder meadow
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i'm on pretty much all the time anyways

hard glade
elder meadow
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i'm from the US so i can somewhat find lobbies easier i try doing the bowling for gibs like two days ago and give up since it was annoying asf

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i give up doing that since like 2024 but now coming back trying to finish the last 5

elder meadow
hard glade
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im trying to get the word because the more people join the steam group the better it will work

elder meadow
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i see gotcha

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well gl

trim lark
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Hello guys, i’m looking for some people to help me get the multiplayer achievement on doom 2016, i’m on PlayStation.

If someone is interested pm me please
Thanks
Have a nice day

exotic fractal
hard glade
exotic fractal
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Yeah haha it's not letting me fucking join

hard glade
exotic fractal
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Yeah sure I'm on mobile rn although

elder meadow
exotic fractal
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Wait how lol or am I just dumb

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😭

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I'll try it later from my PC I guess on mobile it's fucking weird

elder meadow
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can you not see "join group"?

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was about to post a screenshot but guess i can't but there should be a option there

exotic fractal
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Naw from my mob I can't see that option I'll try it in a bit from my PC

elder meadow
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odd

exotic fractal
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But unfortunately I can't

elder meadow
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lmao

exotic fractal
elder meadow
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i got like 5 mp achievements for doom i got some people but waiting for them if they're ready probably the weekend anyways

hard glade
elder meadow
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np

exotic fractal
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I'll join in too zombie I ain't gonna betray ya xD

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From my pc

exotic fractal
elder meadow
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i do not have a mic just to let you know but if you wanna be in one that's fine you play on steam correct?

elder meadow
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k

polar leaf
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Anyone on PlayStation down to play

brave cloak
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The battle for the final wraith soul is KILLING ME

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Anybody got tips?

brave cloak
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IVE DONE IT

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I BEAT DOOM ON UV

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@obsidian dirge ik you said to really stop with the pings but…RAAAHH THIS IS AWESOME

native moth
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W

brave cloak
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I’m collectible hunting now

elder meadow
rare basin
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HI

tall anvil
tall anvil
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Anyone down to play before my Plus ends today

obtuse storm
tall anvil
obtuse storm
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Yes

autumn barn
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Guys did you know that Sean Bean was one of the lead producers of DOOM, and he didn’t even die during the game? Look it up

autumn barn
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Oh, never mind xd

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That’s hilarious

balmy bough
formal mulch
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I find the UAC kinda stupid.

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I know it's meant to be satirical and shit, with enthusiastic recorded messages talking about stuff like "human resources" and the fact that they were messing with hell portal shit but the only thing I find weird is the UAC Standard-Issue Pistol.

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The recoil is ludicrous even for the Doom Slayer.

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Also, he needs 2 hands to use the alt fire with still a lot of recoil.

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How does Samuel Hayden expect scientists use this shit?

gritty trail
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All the budget went into making it have infinite ammo I guess

formal mulch
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The gun ejects shells?

lofty charm
formal mulch
lofty charm
cinder cobalt
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@lofty charm good to see you! Any new mod ideas yet?

lofty charm
cinder cobalt
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How did you crack empowered demons? Missed that news.

lofty charm
# cinder cobalt How did you crack empowered demons? Missed that news.

I only finished 60 out of 210 variations for now. But all current variations are working.
About them: 2 are speed variations (Haste, Slowmo), 2 damage variations (Berserk, Quad), 2 health variations (Mega and Invulerability), 1 Regen, 1 invisible (basically fully T0yOta one, but with additional enemies), 1 protection (Environmental), 1 Unkillable.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WPLzbNcWOps

Showcase of work in progress Grand Doom 2016 Overhaul Final new empowered demons.
Empowered demons are based on T0y0ta's Buffed Demons and Spectre Demons, have effects and auras from powerups and have chance to drop related powerup.
Tests were made on Easy Difficulty Stats.

Enormous thanks to @ T0yOta (https://www.youtube.com/@T0yOta/videos) fo...

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cinder cobalt
lofty charm
karmic prairie
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just finshed doom 2016

brave cloak
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Also

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I’m missing two collectibles

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The fourth one on the first page, and a yellow one on the second page

brave cloak
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uh

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yey

karmic prairie
brave cloak
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it’s fine

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I’m looking for someone who does..

karmic prairie
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How are u replying so fast

brave cloak
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cuz

karmic prairie
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Are u from id software

brave cloak
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no

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I’m just online

karmic prairie
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Oh

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Nice to meet u cyclone 🌀

brave cloak
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ye

cinder cobalt
brave cloak
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Gentlemen…

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I have all the collectibles now.

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It is done.

hoary quarry
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How active is the multilayer of this game 10 years since launch

potent mountain
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its not

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you have to basically organize with ppl in here to get any matches

maiden urchin
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If you're lucky you may get into a full lobby thru team play matchmaking

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sometimes

strong yarrow
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Oh wow it really has been 10. Hi I’m new here new to the doom server and new to the doom universe, but I am learning I promise.

rocky canopy
elder meadow
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i played a few i believe 2-3 days ago was able to find some lobbies and that wasn't even on weekends

whole fern
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RIP and Tear

civic dust
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Until it is DONE

jolly terrace
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I heard a while ago about a Legacy mod or something that would allow me to get most of the multiplayer achievements by playing against bots? Is there anyone who could help me on how to download/install it? I have no idea how to mod the game

maiden urchin
sonic stratus
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Well it feels punchy, sure
But when your primary targets are imps with small hit boxes, the lack of damage and bad spread makes it a real pain

lament girder
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Wait I meant to post that in Doom 3 fuck.

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The 2016 shotgun is ass nvm.

sonic stratus
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Just finished argent facility on UN

sleek coyote
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Started my first doom 2016 run yesterday on ultra-violence yesterday, ive beaten it before but I really want to 100% it
(I would've done a harder difficulty but my last saves from a decade ago got lost)

sonic stratus
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Miracle of miracles, I didn’t fall in argent tower

brave cloak
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Three classic maps down…ten to go.

sonic stratus
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choked against the cyberdemon TheIntern

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ain't no way man

native moth
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Rip

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I’m so bad at 2016 it’s crazy

oak solar
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Without spoiling anything
How would I go about finding obscure secret areas in the campaign?

noble moat
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Random levers buttons screend can work

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Some needd backtracking scarred getting keys

young flame
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hey guys i need some help with doom 2016, it just stutters and doesnt stop stuttering, my pc is a ryzen 5 5500 rtx 3050 gpu 16gb ram and its installed on a 1tb ssd

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if anyone can even look at the issue im having, that would be greatly appreciated

limber dune
limber dune
sonic stratus
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alr time for some more UN attempts

noble moat
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GL!

sonic stratus
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The question is whether my laz labs run yesterday was legit or if I’m gonna go back to dying in the first 3 levels again lol

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Finished the res ops gore nest with 18 HP doomguy_dead

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That fight is so damn hard man

obsidian dirge
sonic stratus
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Wow that’s 2 runs in a row that have made it past foundry
I think that’s actually the first time I’ve ever done that kekw

primal lion
#

Quick question, do y'all prefer the normal doom 2016 mancubus or the cyber-mancubus

sonic stratus
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Just got to advanced research complex

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It simultaneously gets both easier and harder from here

sonic stratus
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bro since when can the cyberdemon one-shot you from full health

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what is this nonsense

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I had 195 health and his frickin weird blade attack instakilled me
did it somehow make contact with my hitbox twice? no idea, but I'm dead now doomguy_dead

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well there's 4 hours down the drain

lofty charm
# sonic stratus well there's 4 hours down the drain

Since, there is absurd damage multipilier (3.0 or something) it's expectable, in my opinion. I remember blade and especially laser deals a lot of damge.
Most funny thing - when I did Pistol run here, I got killed by his wall. 😅

lofty charm
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It's 40*3 with player damaga 1.0, which mean 120 damage per scythe attack. So, while it shouldn't kill with 195 probably it can kill with a bit less.
So yeah it may be a bug, like with Pinkies insta killing with charge attack.

sonic stratus
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un attempt number 4 in the past 3 days and I've managed to make it out of kadingir 3x in a row

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I sure as hell hope I'm not gonna die to the cyberdemon three times in a row also lmao

young flame
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My doom 2016 jus constantly stutters on my pc, and ive tried every possible fix and nothing works, it jus stutters even tho my pc runs other games flawlessly

limber dune
young flame
limber dune
young flame
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Did u jus fuckin copy and paste it

limber dune
young flame
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Bruh i wanna play doom 2016 so bad but cant what the fuk

limber dune
young flame
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I have rtx 3050 (8gb version)

limber dune
young flame
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But that doesnt make any sense tho man

limber dune
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maybe ask somewhere else

maiden urchin
lofty charm
# young flame But that doesnt make any sense tho man

It actually may have sense, since some modern graphic cards may have issues with older games. And I already heard about such issues for owners of most recent RTX cards.
Usually (not related to cards) it was issue with Vulkan or OpenGL, in some cases it was related to drivers (too old or too new).
Does it have any message spam in in-game console?

lofty charm
sonic stratus
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The cyberdemon is dead
Fuck that guy in particular

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Guy still almost managed to kill me but thankfully I didn’t use up saving throw

maiden urchin
young flame
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Hmm

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Alr done it didnt work

maiden urchin
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then I'm afraid your best bet is contacting the Bethesda tech support, never experienced issues with this game

lofty charm
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The only other solution is to lower all setting, see, if that helps and add 1 by one to see, which may be a cause.
It also may be something related to other programs or FPS non-capped or graphic card is OC.

young flame
lofty charm
limber dune
primal lion
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The summoner needs to be removed

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It's absolute buns

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It sucks booty and it spams shi

limber dune
sonic stratus
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Me beating titan’s realm without taking any hits ultrakappa

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And I only used the BFG once I think

sonic stratus
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Ugh time for Vega core
My nemesis

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But I’m actually using the BFG now so it should be ok

lofty charm
# primal lion It sucks booty and it spams shi

Honestly, they are very rare and quite weak in my opinion. Damage and speed are fine, but summons can be good or useless and Lock On is instant death to them.
Archviles are cooler, even though I like Summoner design and idea a bit more.

sonic stratus
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got boxed into a corner lol
lost my megahealth and died in about 2 seconds

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3 unavoidable soldier charged plasma bolts and a baron hulk smash, and boom, dead

lofty charm
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💀 🫂 🫡
Well, good try, anyway, since you were able to go so far. If you try again, hope you would be able to finish UN run fully.
I also sometimes died in 2016 and especially in Eternal, when I got swarmed or cornered, so I try to avoid it by any means at this point.

sonic stratus
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I could have gotten out of the situation if I just used the bfg
but I'm not used to using it at all so I took too long to find the hotkey doomguy_dead

lofty charm
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Did you try Nightmare run not long ago before or do you want to go through UN without it?

elder meadow
sonic stratus
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This is UN in 2016

elder meadow
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gotcha nice

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i haven't even done it yet since i'm still on the old blood in order since i do achievements anyways

misty pollen
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Guys…. Pinky’s suck

uncut tundra
#

But without pinkies, your hand grip will be ineffecientArchie Archie

primal lion
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Pinkies are M-M-M-MID

sonic stratus
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Nah screw mid, they’re awful

primal lion
#

Chat y'all fw the new pfp

obsidian dirge
jolly terrace
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Is there a specific way of going about the private matches in multiplayer? I'm trying to invite my friend so I can get the last 2 achievements but it just keeps saying "connection timed out" for him when he tries to join me

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and its not like either of our internet is bad either, we can join and play fine on any other game, just not this

past heart
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Anyone here mind helping out with mulitplayer achievements sometime? ^^

sonic stratus
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Anyone here mind helping me not choke my UN attempts ultrakappa

past heart
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Once I get to that achievement, I think my strat will be to pick a health number, say like 30. And every time you get down to that number, reload the last checkpoint since death will be likely at that point

sonic stratus
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You can’t reload checkpoint in UN

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Plus there are a fair number of attacks that can instakill you even from 100+ health, so odds are if you’re at 30 health, it’s already too late

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Like the cyberdemon, for example—his blade attack deals 120 damage and in his second phase he tosses out 3 of them in quick succession

gritty trail
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I mean for this game if you're doing UN simply for the experience (literally zero rewards) you might as well commit and just play without reloading saves

past heart
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Ohhhh you're doing more than just the UAC UN achievement mb

sonic stratus
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Yeah I’m doing the whole thing

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Beating the first level on UN isn’t that bad
If you do end up dying it’s pretty much always in the first arena when you don’t have a weapon mod yet, so a restart is basically just doing the arena again

jolly terrace
chilly juniper
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I BEAT DOOM 2016!!

noble moat
low onyx
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Hey guys im getting the doom 2016 on my birthday

maiden urchin
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have fun!

gloomy ermine
gritty trail
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Don't kill vro's excitement like that, 2016 is peak

karmic scroll
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if im on cyber demon fight how close am i to giving olivia 2 shells to the face???

gritty trail
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A few levels away, you're basically in the third act of the game I'd say

karmic scroll
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oh ok

keen isle
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yeah, all three of these modern Dooms like to end-load their boss fight

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probably to make sure you're fully kitted-out

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I think Dark Ages was particularly silly about it though
22 missions and no actual unique bosses until mission 20
and then you just basically get all of them at once

potent mountain
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i think it was fine

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lots of mini bosses throughout with the leaders and then also the agaddon introduction

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made the build up to the actual boss fight feel very earned and worth it when it finally happened

obsidian dirge
potent mountain
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i mean im not gonna @ the guy in the other channel just to respond to his point

obsidian dirge
oak solar
past heart
oak solar
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I cant help ya then
But im sure there are others that can

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We should organize like a mini community for multiplayer doom

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The Doom invaders

past heart
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Ooo yaya :0

oak solar
past heart
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I think that'd work out well yea

autumn ore
oak solar
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Though I will be busy for a few days
However it can be used to build the entourage

oak solar
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I mean can you imagine being able to manually host a entire multiplayer branch of the doom server?

lost helm
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the champions across the game kinda help in that regard

keen isle
#

I really liked those guys and I kinda wished there were more
maybe the DLC will have an Archvile champion 😄

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it feels like... you've got the different demon species as always, but now within those species there are certain demons who are more skilled than others. which is just really cool

gusty bison
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i play doom 16 and i love the various weapons

civic dust
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Super Shotgun

thorny sentinel
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Lemme know when yall get a pc multiplayer game going on, i litteraly just want to get to level 5

past heart
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I wanna get all the things 😅

woeful sphinx
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Howdy folks, just finished TDA, super awesome playthrough. I haven't bothered to look it up but I wanted to get in with the community, but I was curious:
The scene where the slayer wakes up in hell and is detaching himself from the pile of corpses back in 1st person, that's definitely a callback to the opening of 2016, right??

potent mountain
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yeah it is

woeful sphinx
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I knew it, no way it was a coincidence. Loved seeing that.

jaunty wing
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Guess who just got doom 2016

past heart
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I have gotten all achievements except multiplayer ^^

autumn ore
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But we still would need 1 more so anybody else willing to help? Pls

elder meadow
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xD

jaunty wing
#

My name finally has an actual meaning

spiral frigate
wild pike
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Would anyone like to help each other to get multiplayer achievments?

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I need 3 more

visual scarab
weary cedar
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How far into doom 2016 does it get good

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I find that most doom games start off slow and then get really fun when you unlock most stuff

gritty trail
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Main menu

weary cedar
gritty trail
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No that is my serious answer

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Good is subjective, I started digging the game as soon as the fleshy fire menu came on

weary cedar
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Oh ok lol

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Also I just wanna flex the fact I own the entire doom 2016 soundtrack on vinyl

autumn barn
weary cedar
sonic stratus
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2016 is basically the same

autumn barn
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I don’t think slow is the right word

weary cedar
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I was struggling with zombies before that on the highest difficulty bc I couldn’t go that fast

sonic stratus
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I guess 2016 isn't necessarily slow at the beginning on nightmare, it's just ball-bustingly hard

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because fodder all deal ridiculous amounts of damage and you've got basically no health to speak of

gritty trail
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I kinda dig that

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I like when Nightmare is actual bullshit to keep up with what DOOM 1 set in stone: it's meant to be an absurd challenge only for the top of the top

weary cedar
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I think I got up to the part where I got my first mod for my shotgun, I was struggling quite a bit with most fodder demons

gritty trail
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Eternal and TDA feel rather weak in that regard but I know liking BS NM is a hot take

sonic stratus
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ehhh
nightmare in OG doom is essentially a planning/RNG challenge

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not exactly what I'd call enjoyable

gritty trail
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I see it as more of an endurance test mode than a real difficulty to complete. D3 and D2016 hit the sweet spot imo of being both absurd and doable

sonic stratus
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the thing about doom 2016 is that the player power gets really out of control very fast

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so you've got a ridiculous early game combined with an end game that isn't that hard

gritty trail
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The first few levels are hard enough to make up for the latter half I feel

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Getting that Toe Into Madness achievement was agony

weary cedar
sonic stratus
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beat the first level without dying on UN

weary cedar
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Oh right

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I might try that some day

sleek coyote
#

Ive beaten 2016 before, but i guess my data didnt save or something, I don't mind beating it again and unlocking everything including the 2 harder difficulties
Yesterday I played Rich get richer rune trial like 20 times (out of failuredoomcry ) before I had to go

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I'm on UV because I just assumed there's probably an achievement associated with it, if not I enjoy the difficulty

past heart
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I'm online on PC if anyone wants to join a public match ^^

keen isle
slim prawn
dusky escarp
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Should DOOM 2016 get a next gen update

gritty trail
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No

wicked mauve
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hey guys

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can someone help me with some atchievemnts pls

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i cant find a match in doom multiplayer

verbal ibex
#

Doom 2016 was actually my personal favorite

wild pike
past heart
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Try changing the region, that worked for me last night

warm pecan
#

Olá gringos

past heart
# wicked mauve how?

Click on the multiplayer option on the main menu and I believe your region is at the very bottom

soft lily
wicked mauve
#

tem brasileiro aq?

obsidian dirge
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English only please

wicked mauve
#

okok

obsidian dirge
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thank you 🙂

cerulean vapor
#

does anyone know if the multiplayer servers are still up?

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because i wait like an hour to join a party but theres nothing

cerulean vapor
#

does anyone still play doom multiplayer or am i the only one?

wicked mauve
cerulean vapor
#

wich region

wicked mauve
#

just try all

cerulean vapor
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i set my region to europe

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and north america

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and asia

wicked mauve
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you want to make the achievements?]

cerulean vapor
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what do you mean

wicked mauve
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multiplayer atchievemnts

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or just

cerulean vapor
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sure i guess

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but mostly play for fun

wicked mauve
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i see

carmine temple
cerulean vapor
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got it

wicked mauve
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but you will play with the same peaple evry match

cerulean vapor
#

ill test it out now if it doesent work ill get back to you guys

cerulean vapor
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im fine with it atleast i get to play with real people

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ok

wicked mauve
#

i aint good at this game

cerulean vapor
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ok

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im not good either

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my aim is meh

wicked mauve
#

same

carmine temple
cerulean vapor
#

it sorta works

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i went on every mode

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but it keeps saying connecting and then waiting for 3 players

carmine temple
cerulean vapor
#

yeah

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weird how its not working for me

carmine temple
cerulean vapor
#

right

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ok i got 1 player in my lobby thanks guys

carmine temple
cerulean vapor
#

fck sakes i give up ive been in a lobby for 20 minutes an theres no one

wicked mauve
#

like

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8 pm

carmine temple
cerulean vapor
#

ok

wicked mauve
#

try team death match too

cerulean vapor
#

yeah i did

wicked mauve
cerulean vapor
#

do you guys think a gtx 1650 can run doom the dark ages?

carmine temple
cerulean vapor
#

yeah maybe. might have to turn off hdr and some other graphics settings in the games files

maiden urchin
cerulean vapor
#

well about that

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i kinda have it

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i think

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because when i play god of war on high graphics wich has a lot of ray tracing it works fine

carmine temple
maiden urchin
#

technically you could get it running thru some stuff with an GTX 1650 but it will be neither pretty nor run well enough

sonic stratus
#

the game requires a GPU that is capable of ray tracing, so you need a 2000 series nvidia card there

ebon wedge
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brave cloak
#

what

ebon wedge
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brave cloak
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uhhhh

ebon wedge
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brave cloak
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Not to my knowledge

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Well it’s gotta be regulated here..

lofty charm
ebon wedge
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lofty charm
ebon wedge
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lofty charm
ebon wedge
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lofty charm
ebon wedge
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gritty trail
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There is also a GOG release, but I do not know if it is available in Russia

ebon wedge
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lofty charm
lofty charm
ebon wedge
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maiden urchin
ebon wedge
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maiden urchin
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alternatively switch steam region to elsewhere

ebon wedge
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ebon wedge
maiden urchin
ebon wedge
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maiden urchin
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If you're that afraid of the ban just buy region free steam key for the game

ebon wedge
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maiden urchin
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It's not free obviously, and price depends on whoever sells the steam key

ebon wedge
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maiden urchin
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then i hope you will find some way around this problem on your own 🫡

ebon wedge
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autumn ore
wild pike
#

no

wicked mauve
#

my friends give me DDA

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but doesnt runs

honest umbra
#

Replaying this game rn and I fucking love when the Doom 3 music starts playing mann

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It's peak

carmine temple
gritty trail
#

I wish the DOOM 3 part was a little longer

carmine temple
wicked jasper
#

multi for playstation? hop on/dm me

earnest geyser
#

no offences
but I have a question for girls here
How did you fall in love with DOOM franchise?
I thought girls love games with deep story like witcher 3 or last of us
again no offences
its just to achieve something in my project

tidal vessel
#

well basically i played doom and it was fun

sonic stratus
#

M1 I didn't know you were a girl lol

obsidian dirge
balmy bough
sonic stratus
#

well yeah

wild nova
#

For me my big sister who teach me to play doom, and turok 2, hexen

uncut minnow
#

If anyone wants the platinum send me a dm

autumn barn
#

The better question is how could anyone not like DOOM?

wild nova
obsidian dirge
#

Unless the project is how to not interact with members of the opposite sex, let's keep these kind of questions out of the server.

sonic stratus
#

aaaanyways

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this was from one of my UN runs

rocky canopy
#

man i should probably get around to trying to do doom 2016 un, though im not sure how much harder it is compared to eternals

sonic stratus
sonic stratus
#

I will say it’s really helpful in UN especially
Because you can just save 6 combat points by ignoring the faster charge upgrade and only getting outer beam

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Which lets me get remote det mastered sooner

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Was actually a game changer in my runs

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Definitely contributed to me making it past the halfway point of the campaign so often
Because I could get the cluster strike mastery, then remote det, then the double tap ssg mastery without having to worry about siege mode mastery at all

obsidian dirge
#

idk how people can UN 2016. Propssss

sonic stratus
#

Well I haven’t done it yet kekw

obsidian dirge
sonic stratus
#

well my most successful run is to vega core

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the video is from a couple runs ago

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I'll probably get another attempt or two in tonight

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I believe my total number of failed runs (including my old runs which weren't optimized as well) is 27

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but of the 5 runs I've done most recently, 4 of them have gotten past foundry and 3 of them have gotten to the cyberdemon, which is farther than any of my old runs got

uncut minnow
gray cedar
alpine wren
#

Like 20 bucks for doom 2016 is worth every cent

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Even dark ages that's like 60 bucks

uncut minnow
sonic stratus
#

here we go again

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I love how the best policy in like 90% of these early encounters is to play it like a tactical shooter

brave cloak
#

Using the tactical scope mod to get the imps before you enter the tower feels like you’re the sniper on a cod team

sonic stratus
#

my route has me grabbing micromissiles instead of the scope
they also work well in the tower because the missiles have tracking

brave cloak
#

I got both mods but at that cost never modded the plasma rifle on my first run

sonic stratus
#

well I'll end up getting both mods just because why not

#

but early game I stick with MMs

brave cloak
#

Same here

#

The explosive shot mod for the combat shottie is better than the multi fire one honestly

sonic stratus
#

Bruh Samuel’s cutscene at the end of res ops gets so old TheIntern

lament girder
#

I just noclip right through the end room.

#

For the Argent Revisited tram cutscene I just use a timescale toggle. I hate Samuel so much in this game.

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Stop wasting my time twin.

sonic stratus
#

alr just beat argent facility destroyed

#

I'm honestly dreading lazarus labs
just can't seem to figure out a consistent way to beat the cyberdemon

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he always seems to pull out some kind of bullshit out of nowhere

sonic stratus
#

beat the cyberdemon
easy peasy
finally realized that all it takes is to stun him with the bfg once in his first phase and 3x in his second phase and burst him down with damage while he's stunned

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used all my bfg ammo but who cares

sonic stratus
#

YES
beat vega core

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used 4 bfg shots in the last arena but idgaf

obsidian dirge
sonic stratus
#

it's finally over

#

last level was probably the most nervous I've ever felt playing a video game lol

#

28 times is the charm, apparently

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4 hours and 54 minutes

lofty charm
#

Congratulations! Really big thing! Glad that you achieved it!

sonic stratus
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thank you

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and now I'm never doing a 2016 UN run ever again lmao

lofty charm
#

Completely understandable! 😄 Same - I probably finished it once and never want to return again. I don't have enough patience to die somewhere in the end and then start over again. You have really strong dedication for sure.

obsidian dirge
sonic stratus
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thanks lm

barren pebble
#

hows the multiplayer servers been lately?

south pasture
rocky depot
#

Opa, bom dia, algum BR?

strange dove
#

who are you, an ultra nightmare survivor to deny the using what the game provides

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also stellar work I could never UN 2016

sonic stratus
lament girder
#

UN 2016 is actually pretty easy for the most part. It stops sucking after you max out HP.

strange dove
#

eternal and 2016 for some fucking reason having the hardest parts be the third level 🤝

sonic stratus
#

Foundry actually isn’t terrible

lament girder
#

If you struggle the BFG's right there.

sonic stratus
#

The res ops gore nest is by far the hardest part of the campaign

lament girder
#

Every fight is pretty winnable normally though.

strange dove
#

fall damage and falling death are absolutely ludicrous

lament girder
#

Except for maybe VEGA Core.

sonic stratus
lament girder
autumn barn
#

I think the Praetor suit allows you to have armor and convert demon guts into health

gritty trail
#

The former was still doable even before we had the Praetor suit

autumn barn
#

In the old games sure, but you still need some kind of armor suit to have armor

sonic stratus
#

I love how inaccessible armor is in 2016

autumn barn
#

Even the classic suit from the Slayer’s past had some protection

balmy bough
#

Every single DOOM game has the player character wearing some form of protection

autumn barn
#

Exactly

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Therefore the Slayer needs it to have armor

balmy bough
#

The floor here is made of fucking floor dude

gritty trail
#

The Praetor suit having armor is a quality not unique to it whatsoever, it's the bare minimum, so yeah, I don't think it redeems it

sonic stratus
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2016's got bad balancing, this we know

balmy bough
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I don’t even care about the rest of this conversation, it’s just squid going “you need armor to have armor”. Like no shit dude.

sonic stratus
#

well his point about the suit allowing you to get health back from killing demons is true

lament girder
#

He seemed to be able to do it without it in TDA just fine.

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Both Eternal and TDA also show he's more than perfectly capable of surviving harsh environments like space vacuum and potential radiation waves without any form of protection covering his skin so it kinda begs the question what does the 2016 suit ACTUALLY do.

gritty trail
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Look cooler than the Eternal one

lament girder
#

Ehhh I don't know.

gritty trail
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I think that's where the qualities end

lament girder
#

The chestplate is kind of fugly.

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I also don't care much for the covered biceps. If it took after the Eternal suit in some ways like the little access port bits and the mini battery compartments then yeah sure.

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I also like how beefy the TDA suit makes him look. 2016's looks emaciated.

gritty trail
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I don't like the vomit colors and oversized helmet on the Eternal one

lofty charm
# lament girder Both Eternal and TDA also show he's more than perfectly capable of surviving har...

TDA and Eternal don't follow 2016 in 1:1. Also about vacuum thing - it's absurd. Generally speaking there are quite few things in Eternal, which are absurd (like Slayer shooting himself like projectile and other stuff). I generally dislike a lot desire to show Slayer "cooler than Chuck Norris" after 2016. Sure, in 2016 he was also like god-like, but it was way more grounded. But must admit it's funny, when Slayer does all these things in Eternal and then can't melee zombie and dies from it.

From what I remember all upgrades and abilities are related to suit in 2016: health, armor, ammo, suit upgrades, argent cells upgrades and runes. Maybe even Glory Kills. That's why at the start of a game, Slayer can't GK or get health.
The only issue I have with suit thing in 2016 is that it somehow gives ammo, like if non-argent weapons would work on argent stuff thing. But that's like why there are human weapons in Titan's Realm. Maybe I forgot and humans or human like species were there, but not sure about that.

Also regarding previous things:

It does help survive long falls, but only for certain height. All Runes and Suit upgrades do useful things. Same for Eternal with only difference it has now separate upgrade for grenades, flaming belch and dash (and it has blade for visuals).

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# lofty charm TDA and Eternal don't follow 2016 in 1:1. Also about vacuum thing - it's absurd....

The absurdity of Eternal and TDA aren't the least bit related to how useless the 2016 suit is in the context of Doom 2016. You're constantly limited gameplay wise by it with shit like fall damage, the geriatic runspeed and the pitiful amounts of HP regained from killing enemies which the suit is supposed to assist you with. Narrative wise, you have VEGA nonchalantly climbing in without your authorization and the whole affair with Samuel's tethers.
I just fail to understand how someone blessed by a literal angel and fabled to be strong enough to kill titans with his own hands in lore would need a hitech suit to survive human environments, and also manage to be completely defenseless against a swarm of small imps.

Just saying, but if I woke up after centuries of slumber only to find someone was able to strip off my hi-tech mega indestructible powersuit, I would think twice before putting it on because God knows what the fuck they did to it. And 2016 is chockful of reasons why.

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# gritty trail I find the goofy Slayer cool guy antics in 2016 more fitting since we weren't 10...

We're talking a dude who punched out an army officer, jumped into a teleporter at the end of the Phobos anomaly, was killed and sent to hell, rappeled down to the surface, made it out alive, then went on another rampage after finding out killed his literal pet rabbit.

His entire approach is 'fuck the rules'. The cannon scene may be silly but it's completely inline for him, as well as shooting a hole into Mars to spite Hayden. The problem I find in 2016's approach is that isn't particularly consistent with this. Doomguy wants to break the rules but then HAS to listen to Hayden ramble on for minutes to tell him where to go and what to do, only to get fucked over by him at the end of the game.

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I get what you're asying but I think it's a veeery big leap from the originals to the new games still. He always was a badass, but I'm saying that instead of him being a fairly grounded badass he became a badass less grounded than a plane

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It's very sloppy. It's like they wanted to play it both ways with Doomguy having an oldschool self-destructing rebel approach but then had to convince the newcomers that there was a story to follow that you should be invested in despite it being so simplistic and obvious at a glance. It kinda falls apart if you think about it longer than a second.

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So I’d say the armor is still fine.

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# gritty trail I get what you're asying but I think it's a veeery big leap from the originals t...

I mean was he ever really grounded? He has canonically done stupid hotheaded things before that stretched out plausibility. Starting and ending with fending off a whole Earth invasion on his own with a double barrel coachgun and 6 weapons on his person.

If anything I think groundedness has consistently taken a backseat after the 1st game in both classic and the new trilogies. The critical aspect that differentiates 2016 from DE and TDA is its smaller scope to set the groundwork for what was to follow. If they had never played it up it would've turned stale seeing him just do 'normal' things the entire time.

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Having to suspend disbelief for a bit with the classic games happens too but not to the level of Eternal where I have to basically suspend any idea of reality

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It just never really feels like it truly belongs to you.

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# gritty trail Having to suspend disbelief for a bit with the classic games happens too but not...

I truly think that's less on the narrative aspect (which you're not meant to take at face value like the cannon sequence) and more on the approach surrounding every other aspect of the game's design. It's a modern game with modern sensibilities running on a modern engine that sorta attempts to look realistic but also doesn't, because the art direction suddenly decides it doesn't want to take itself seriously.

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So when you have comedic scenes juxtaposed against the more 'realistic' backdrop of the game, it does look a little jumbled up and random.

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That's a big no-no.

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There's a difference between punching out an officer and explicitly going against his orders and choosing to simply not carry out the orders.

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lofty charm
# lament girder The absurdity of Eternal and TDA aren't the least bit related to how useless the...

They are related because you compare 2016 and Eternal/TDA (in this situation or often in others), so they are relevant to our dialogue and expectations like vacuum and radiation. In this context survivng Mars atmosphere and Hell is a nice bonus from non-direct usefulness for gameplay.

fall damage
Fall damage is not fun gameplay wise, I agree, but more logical and grounded than teleportation in Eternal. There are limits to impact compensation. Doom 2016 went more for immersion, while Eternal for gameplay.
Runspeed is fair for Eternal too without Dash.
Amount of HP is balance issue not suit issue and it's only fair for 2016 Nightmare runs. where it's min/max balance.
VEGA/tethers aren't an issue of original suit, but upgrades, which were installed in it (hacked), while Slayer was unable to know, to oppose it or to have time to fix it (since invasion and stuff).

titans with his own hands in lore
That's issue with absurd lore as already said. There is constant run for coolness regarding Doom Slayer story, which I really dislike as I already said. And that severly escalated with Eternal.
Also he can't kill Titans with bare hands in any game, as far as I remember, so lore may be just part of tale about Slayer not "reality" about him.

would need a hitech suit to survive human environment
I mean with taking lore into account he does'n need weapons, health, armor either. Just kill everything with bare hands and call it a day.

and also manage to be completely defenseless against a swarm of small imps
Not completely defenseless in any game, but can be killed, yeah. But it's fair for any game including Eternal and TDA. Just as said in 2016 Slayer takes more damage on NIghtmare and has less health drops, which is balance issue.

I would think twice
Slayer didn't know about it and didn't have time to fix it. Suit is still better in 2016 than not having suit, since as I said it has a lot of upgrades and other benifits.

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lofty charm
# sonic stratus I love how inaccessible armor is in 2016

True. It's like pickups only and 1 Rune. Rune is really good, but still an issue, especially with Rune appearing only around the middle of a game.
Devs could make simple random drop from any enemy for that, but I guess they just overlooked some balance and gameplay aspects.

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I could concede that it did piss him off but that wasn't intentional. He seems indifferent towards Hayden.

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I could also concede that it's the one time in the game where he did feel like the Doomguy of old instead of being all 'ok Mr Hayden I will retrieve the maguffin sword for you no questions asked'.

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He carefully released the hinges his own way, because he doesn’t care

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He wants the demons gone too.

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Doomguy is NOT like that with Hayden

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He simply abides since he doesn’t care

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It’s even mentioned in the game

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That you don’t need his help

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Hey what does it mean when
"This match is currently closed to joining"?

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Im trying to play multiplayer with people and I can't join for some reason?

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VEGA and the Intern play mission control too but they’re not in charge of Doomguy either.

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# lofty charm They are related because you compare 2016 and Eternal/TDA (in this situation or ...

'Well he needs weapons anyway and of course he can die because it's a game' isn't the thoughtful rebuttal you think it is. My argument is very simple. Both gameplay and narrative in 2016 are heavily insistent that Doomguy is super strong and capable, and yet none of his feats could be attributed to the fact he's wearing the praetor suit. Under scrutiny you realize it's actually a detriment for him to be wearing it.

I'm going to let you in on a little secret. The only reason the lore insists that it's mega important is because the game was rebooted from its original pitch. The original pitch for 2016 was a hard reboot of Doom 1, with the UAC base being overrun by demons. Doomguy's entire platoon wearing hi-tech armor and wielding Plasma Rifles gets killed off, while Doomguy is left with an old ass suit and a HAR to fend for himself.

They didn't want to ditch the suit, so they worked up some bullshit about it being ancient or whatever despite it being obviously human design and that's why he sticks with it. It's not actually special, they just say it is lol. It's some random ass suit.

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Doom fans talking about the stories as if in the end their not just popcorn flick script turned into videogame story

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even 2016, imo the peak, is just the ''this is fun but not that good'' story category

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Doom stories kind of exsist to add to the hype and aura and lunacy, not much more than that

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But it does absorb Argent through the gloves of the suit. It’s written in one of the codex entries.

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i wish this wasnt the case but it seems to be

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''waoh guys look at the cool shit the slayer can do wowowow''

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Yeah no the story inconsistencies in Doom are far, FAR less insidious than the ones in Scott Cawthons work.

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oak solar
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Hey how do I join someone in doom multiplayer?

strange dove
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have you ever heard of not giving a fuck, it does wonders

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much less over videogames

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I'm sure you know that.

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its just a videogame opinion, i will speak my mind and if it annoys them thats their problem

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and again you missed my point too, I dont dislike the modern doom stories

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i find them fun even if I dont think their fundamentally good

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and in the end the fun i get from watching the hype moments and aura trumps the dissapointment I get from a lackluster quality in the story when it comes to doom bc the games as a whole are a mishmash of hype moments and aura in gameplay too, so the hype moments and aura driven story adds to that in the end

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# strange dove how exactly, im curious

“Doom fans talking about the stories as if in the end their not just popcorn flick script turned into videogame story” you said it like you realize it’s bad and we don’t and it’s actually secretly terrible.

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Everyone needs to remember to be respectful, no name calling or such. If you can't communicate or disagree in a civil manner then you can take a break

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yeah idk what I did to be called a dick but oh well its the internet what am I gonna do about it

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# lament girder 'Well he needs weapons anyway and of course he can die because it's a game' isn'...

isn't the thoughtful rebuttal you think it is
It is.
Both gameplay and narrative in 2016 are heavily insistent that Doomguy is super strong and capable
True about narrative, but not about gameplay in any game. Sure, he's stronger than normal human in reboot and lore-wise I'm not sure that he can be killed unlike gameplay-wise.
Gameplay-wise:

  • In Doom 1 he's survives more thanks to weapons, health, armor and having luck of protagonist.
  • In reboot thanks to health, armor, weapons, ability to refill them and Runes, suit upgrades. Edited: and lore+luck of protagonist too, lol.

and yet none of his feats could be attributed to the fact he's wearing the praetor suit.
I said many times about upgrades, you just ignoring it. Suit doesn't do his work, sure, but helps on a journey. It's not useless. And lore-wise - sure, he doesn't need suit, but as I said, if we take "cool" lore into account than whole gameplay should be based on Berserk powerup solely.

Random or not this suit clearly not uselss. In both 2016 and Eternal it's way more useful gameplay-wise than orginial armor in Doom 1, 2 due to possible upgrades.

That's my simple argument.

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damn they were cooking this response for a while

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oh wait we are in 2016 chat i lowkey thought we were in TDA

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the biggest inconsistency I see with story and gameplay is the implied power of the Slayer, the story does it to hype you up which is good, but sometimes when comparing to the gameplay you get a little confused in retrospect when its evident that hes moreso a super soldier and expert marksman than a 100% melee unbeatable godlike creature. What makes the Slayer cool in the end for me is just how good he is at what he does that despite his vulnerabilites and even past deaths, he refuses to give in and pushes through

oak solar
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Hey I need help troubleshooting multiplayer

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I've been trying to play the game for a goddamn hour and a half

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Helllo?!

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late olive
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This isn't rocket science

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talking as someone with a gf here, there is a occasional tendency (probably born out of gender roles) like playing more story driven games with less of the male fantasy with guns aspect for example. This doesnt apply to all girls at all, to think so would be stupid, but due to the nature of gender roles and society there is a apparent divide between what girls and boys play sometimes, not always

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They activate the invite but no dice

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Sorry.

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# lofty charm > isn't the thoughtful rebuttal you think it is It is. > Both gameplay and narr...
  1. It isn't because you're stating the obvious.
  2. I'm talking purely in the context of 2016. Hayden and VEGA are easily able to graft shit on top of it. The scientists studying Doomguy were able to remove it from him. Seems a lot more basic than the lore insists that it is.
  3. Being able to swap weapons faster, hold two nades at once, ledge grabbing? Those are the upgrades? Are we for real? Runes would've been more fitting, but even then how can we be sure he needs the suit for it? The only one that ACTUALLY matters is explosive barrel invulnerability and even then Eternal's can do it too.

Again, I really hate that 2016 takes the angle of the suit doing all the work when Doomguy is so capable on his own and nothing about it is that remarkable. It's pretty dumb.

Anyway I'm done with the argument, it's boring, going nowhere and I don't think I'm going to be changing my mind.

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# strange dove okay rude

You weren't the one being addressed and frankly your opinion wasn't asked. I know you're heated about previous conversations but please stay out of this one.

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regadless, adieu

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@sonic stratus did you reserve the chainsaw for any particular demon in UN or not im curious

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How does the multiplayer work?
Im trying my best to play the game