doom-2016

[smoky snow]

guys does one of u play mp 2016 on console?

[elder meadow]

I do

Bc it’s fun

[burnt stream]

Battle mode 2.0 was better

https://tenor.com/view/doom-doom-guy-twerk-gif-25604234

[spice forum]

[stark carbon]

way easier

i recommend going on nightmare

but that depends on the person

[peak meteor]

is it really??? ive never used it over lock on burst cuz its so op so i always assumed it was inferior

whenever i switched to the rocket launcher, i would shoot once, lock on burst, then shoot again

would basically melt almost every enemy

either that or i would cycle between the ssg, rocket, and gauss

[fierce cipher]

Yooo you're just like me and even Clockner fr

There's a trick with meleeing where you can shoot atleast like 8 rockets with lock on burst too.

[fierce cipher]

Yeah it's super busted. Even two hits pinkies.

[spark sonnet]

Anyone wanna play the Muliplayer?

[peak meteor]

[fierce cipher]

Hi Archie

[spark sonnet]

Can someone help me I completed all the mission challenges but I didn't get the trophy for it and in mission select it says they're all completed

[crimson summit]

did you double check if they are completed

[crimson summit]

2016's remote detonate when done right can have rockets do more than double damage per rocket

(assume mastered)

[elder meadow]

Are snapmaps still broken on PS5?

[spark sonnet]

Anyone wanna play the Multiplayer I can't find a match and I need the trophies 😭

[peak meteor]

i dont think youll find any luck here for console mp

[lusty pollen]

Hey y’all! I’m working on my first playthrough of doom and was wondering if anyone knew of a video that showed off how to do different glory kills? I know I’m supposed to be aiming at specific parts to get different kills but I was curious if there was a video explaining how it’s determined which kill is triggered

[west crag]

it really just depends on what angle you go for the glory kill at

it is kinda irritating sumtimes

[wispy hedge]

Looking at a staggering demon at a different angle = glory kill. For example, look at a possessed soldier's legs, and glory kill it to see the "Sweep the legs" animation.

Mainly just play around with looking at a monster in different locations while they're staggering for a different glory kill, but be smart about how you do it and not waste time to leave yourself vulnerable.

[spark sonnet]

😭

[lusty pollen]

@west crag @wispy hedge that’s what I’ve figured out already, but is it dependent on what direction the demons are facing? I’m working on the sweeping the leg mission and it says to look at the right leg but it keeps triggering the “grab the leg, trip, and twist” instead of “sweeping the leg”. Is that just me simply angling the wrong direction?

[winter stream]

Some angles might make it easier due to less things obstructing the view of the desired spot

As well as where their stagger animation is at

I recall sweeping the leg most often when facing one of their sides, rather than the front

[lusty pollen]

That’s what I was wondering. I’ll have to mess around with it some more to see if I can get it to trigger properly. I’ve been trying from the front as well so that might just be my problem

[winter stream]

I also just realized, it's possible the "right" leg could either be referring to your right or their right - opposite legs if they are facing you. I don't recall which interpretation they are using.

[lusty pollen]

Oh my gosh I didn’t even think of that 🤦‍♂️ That might just be the deciding factor. I’ll add that to my experiments list

[winter stream]

I only know internally, they use their left and their right when it comes to naming parts and joints, but that doesn't necessarily have any bearing on what convention they use for the player's side, where the perspective is with enemies facing you 99% of the time.

[wispy hedge]

its dependent where you look

[slate anchor]

i just heard a hellrazer say dim sum💀

bro was asian when he was human

[flat veldt]

sure

[elder meadow]

I heard one say "Get this, Slayer" and then he successfully killed me with his laser.

[peak meteor]

hellrazers were cool

[elder meadow]

They should be in the next game.

[peak meteor]

that would be cool

[flat veldt]

what match is the most playable? like i've been waiting 5-10 min for each game.. no players :c

[wispy hedge]

I agree, shame they were not in Eternal

[peak meteor]

what are u playin on

[smoky snow]

bro I'm trying too

and I have a friend ho can play with us

we just need someone else

[flat veldt]

pc

i'm actually just trying to get the achievements, i want to get the game on 100% completion

and to play for fun of course, but literally no players :c game seems kinda dead?

[fluid dew]

I need help with a level I’m working on in Snapmap. The ID is E7TRRC4N, so people can find it, then look at it in the editor.

I’m not really experienced at all with FPS games, let alone Doom specifically, so I need a pair of eyes with more experience using Snapmap to help diagnose what’s wrong here. My current issue is with my spawn points in this level; the various spawn points are supposed to be activated and deactivated as the player progresses through the level, but for some reason, I, along with my classmates (This is for a school project), have noticed that deactivated spawn points are still being used at completely random (I wonder if part of it could be that I’m missing pieces of logic to activate and/or deactivate a certain part of the level; I’m pretty certain I am, since I’ve long since lost track of my logic in general). What am I doing wrong here? Is there a different way I need to go about this?

[winter stream]

hm, I can take a look

school project, huh

[fluid dew]

Yes. I’m in a level design class, and our last project for it is to create a level in an FPS of our choice. I picked this game because a few classmates recommended it for a first-time FPS player.

[fluid dew]

Thank you so much.

[winter stream]

by the way, you can keep better track of logic connections and objects in your map by using Logic Chain Mode (V on a connected object and wasd to select/navigate connections) and Find Next (F on an object), which will go to the next object of the same type in your map, which you can keep scrolling through by repeatedly using F

Is the map non-linear or something? Where the order you activate certain respawn points depends on which direction you go in the map?

[peak meteor]

pc side def has players, just depends on the time your playing

i live in EST and i usally get matches 7 pm or later

im pretty sure someone has linked a group dedicated to finding mp games

here it is

[winter stream]

My recommendation if the map is non-linear is to completely centralize the spawn point disabling so that you basically have a "disable all player spawns" function you can run before enabling the desired spawn point. This will make it a lot less tedious to manage and less prone to error, as you'll only have to worry about which spawn you want to enable, rather than having to think about which spawns the player may have enabled before this one to now disable them.

and to clarify what I mean by centralizing it, I just mean having only 1 node in the map to disable spawn, connected to every player spawn in the map.

[fluid dew]

It is non-linear, yes.

[fluid dew]

I might try this. Thank you.

[fluid dew]

What node would I use for this? Is there a specific one I need to use?

[winter stream]

the Disable node that you're already using to disable your player spawns

[fluid dew]

Okay.

[fluid dew]

I just had a thought - If I have all of the spawn points disabled by the same disable node, which is linked to all of the “On module enter” nodes, would that even work? I’m not sure how the system goes, but if you have multiple conditions linked to the same node, does that mean all of those conditions need to be fulfilled at once for the node to activate?

[winter stream]

no, multiple inbound connections just means any of those conditions will activate it

[fluid dew]

That makes me wonder something now. What I just described is how I have my boss door set up, and based on what I learned just now, just destroying one of the Gore Nests is enough to unlock it. How do I set this up properly to require all the nests to be destroyed to unlock the door?

[winter stream]

You're correct, only 1 would unlock the door in that case. You could use a Count object under the Flow category. Set Max Count to the number of gore nests that need to be destroyed, Add to count for each Gore Nest destroyed, and then unlock door On Count Reached

[fluid dew]

Okay.

[winter stream]

lmk if you need clarification on anything

[spark sonnet]

I have someone else but I can't get on till Friday

[smoky snow]

no problem bud, can wait

accept friend request

[slate anchor]

Wtf

But just imagine a hell razer say "Dim sum" then fucking dies

[neat plinth]

Yo anyone wanna help me get these acheivements on doom 2016? multiplayer stuff is hard in this game. I play on pc

especially with no one online

Dm me if yes

[flat veldt]

[spice forum]

[storm acorn]

is this a good rune setup?
vacuum
rich get richer
armored offensive

[fossil barn]

does anyone still play doom 2016 multiplayer?

[sand flax]

The Steam charts says 640 players were playing it, don't know how many of them were playing the multiplayer.

[quaint hinge]

Could I still get a weapon after missing it?

[winter stream]

nice youtube meme, from 2010

[winter stream]

yeah, you can replay levels, and their pickups will also show up in later ones

[storm acorn]

i have 2206 kills on the super shotgun
rookie numbers

[slate anchor]

https://youtu.be/re0A23CSvpw w banger

[peak meteor]

does the vacumn rule allow you to pull armor from farther?

[storm acorn]

yes i believe so

[peak meteor]

then yes, the setup is good

though if it turns out that vacumn doesnt affect the armor dropped from glory kills, i would put savagery in place of it

those animations can lock u in a position where an enemy has enough time to hit u with a damaging attack after you finish the glory kill (possessed solider and imp's charge attack)

so savagery can come in clutch

[fierce cipher]

LOL, I'm listening to the Andrew Hultshult remix of this song, and I see this post right after I put it on.

[storm acorn]

i mainly use vacuum because it also works with ammo and health pickups, thats the main reason why i have it

rich get richer is self explanatory

[fierce cipher]

I'm sure most of you here in this server probably have 2016 as their favorite Doom , but what's 2nd for y'all? Is it Eternal?

[storm acorn]

eternal wins in gameplay
2016 wins in atmosphere and story

[fierce cipher]

They're both your #1 favorites in the series?

[storm acorn]

yes

tbh they are all good

[fierce cipher]

Nice.

What armor you prefer?

Judging by the pfp, I'm guessing the 2016 Praetor

[storm acorn]

definetly

same with 2016 mancubus, hell knight, cyberdemon, and soldier

[fierce cipher]

Does 2016 win aesthetically, SFX, and music wise?

[storm acorn]

aesthetically 2016 wins
same with SFX

[fierce cipher]

I love the 2016 Manc so much. Especially the Cyber one

[storm acorn]

eternal did manc dirty

same with cyberdemon

[fierce cipher]

Yeah 2016 guns sounded a lot heavier and louder and punchier than Eternal's.

Eternal did have some pretty good gun sounds, but they sounded a bit lasery and plastic toy-ish in comparison

My second favorite gun sounds is 64/PSX

I love the Chaingun

Oh yeah the glory kills in 2016 also sounded a lot crunchier

[storm acorn]

most notably the heavy cannon
despite its godlike glow up in doom eternal, it got rid of the sfx that made it sound like a gun

[fierce cipher]

Yeah I get they wanted a callback to the classic design, but 2016 Mancs were too good

[storm acorn]

and they were actually threatening

so were barons

[fierce cipher]

The Chaingun and SSG also had huge downgrades in the sounds.

Eternal's Chaingun just sounds like a plastic laser toy from a dollar store or something lol

[storm acorn]

dollar store is wild

[fierce cipher]

And Revenants

And Pinkies

[storm acorn]

fuck pinkies and lost souls

[fierce cipher]

True, just was really disappointed in Eternal's Chaingun sounds compared to 2016 and 64 lol

2016 Chaingun with Quad Damage is the best sound effect ever

[storm acorn]

it got a glowup with the energy shield mod, but at the cost of sfx

[fierce cipher]

Yeaaah

[slate anchor]

pinkies are annoying

[storm acorn]

in terms of being effective almost all guns got buffed in eternal

except the pistol

[slate anchor]

double jump over them you still get trampled on

[fierce cipher]

Not the Gauss/Ballista.

Siege mode was the most broken thing ever

[fierce cipher]

What's funny is 2016 aren't even the worst Lost Souls.

That'd go to 64

[storm acorn]

fr tho

i mean ballista is still good, destroyer blade is kinda broken, arbalest is mid tho

[fierce cipher]

Also boss fights and music IMO

[fierce cipher]

Arbalest is amazing against flying enemies

[fierce cipher]

Don't even get me started on D64 Pain Elementals

[fierce cipher]

I think it's because Doomguy's feet will still touch their super spikey backs during the double jump

[storm acorn]

spider mastermind in doom 2016 is an actual threat

meanwhile the clones of the megamind spider: are dumb asf

[slate anchor]

yeah the hitbox is weird

[fierce cipher]

Hell Guards were my favorite boss, but I love all 2016 bosses

The only Eternal boss I liked was Gladiator

[slate anchor]

kid named bfg glitch:

[fierce cipher]

Yeah that shit was nuts

[slate anchor]

doom hunter boss was cool but gladiator is goated

[storm acorn]

i hated hell guards

[slate anchor]

khan maykr is a joke while icon of sin is just ring around the rosie

alright whos better

[fierce cipher]

Yeah Doom Hunter pretty cool, but I think Hell Guards did the double boss thing better.

Especially since both Hell Guards had different movesets and tactics to each other

[slate anchor]

MOOD slayer or DOOM slayer?

[fierce cipher]

WOOD Slayer

[storm acorn]

cyberdemon from doom 2016 is the best boss

[slate anchor]

lol

[slate anchor]

weak asf

tbh

[storm acorn]

they got nerfed in eternal

[slate anchor]

how much hp does the cyberdemon have

[fierce cipher]

He's the best Cyberdemon in general.

In the whole series.

Design, fight, environmental aesthetics. Everything.

[slate anchor]

(2016)

[storm acorn]

i swear no tyrant could ever come close to the 2016 cyberdemon

[fierce cipher]

Even the way he looks is my favorite Cyberdemon

[fierce cipher]

It's funny how Tyrants are a copy and paste of the Classic DOOM Cyberdemon design, but the Classic DOOM Cyberdemons were scary as fuck, and could fuck you up at any second.

Tyrants got the look of a Classic Cyberdemon, but they don't got the threat factor. They've gone soft

[fierce cipher]

Idk tbh.

[storm acorn]

yea because precision bolt, crucible, meathook

[fierce cipher]

I think Classic Cyberdemon took like idk...60 rockets, but Eternal's Cyberdemon takes 13 rockets, which is really fast and easy with lock on burst

[storm acorn]

eternals cyberdemon just gets bullied due to the amount of combos these mfs be pulling

[fierce cipher]

Just checked. Classic Cyberdemon is like 40 rockets, but still

I know how to blood punch chain Tyrants to death, and they take like 12 blood punches.

You're so overpowered in Eternal lol

[fierce cipher]

What do you think of Eternal's Icon of Sin?

I think he's kinda cool at first, but he gets tedious and a bit of a slog

Also I don't really like how his arenas look that much lol

[storm acorn]

i like icon of sin, massive improvement from the previous ones

i dont like the dark lord tho

just a marauder with more health

[fierce cipher]

Nobody likes him

Also I was hoping he'd fight more like Doomguy considering he looks like him

And I was hoping he'd fight without some mech

[fierce cipher]

Yeaaaaaaah. DOOM II's Icon of Sin was....rough

[opal radish]

ive seen a mod that gives tyrants the 2016 design, looks a little scuffed tho cuz theyre still way smaller than the boss

[fierce cipher]

2016 demon mods look scuffed in general in Eternal.

They look so weird and bootlegged in Eternal's lighting and rendering.

I've seen a lot of people use 2016 Baron mods for Eternal and it looks so wrong to me

Also when people mod in 2016 weapon sounds for Eternal's guns, they also sound scuffed and mixed poorly.

[opal radish]

2016 barons looks slimy, ljke slightly dried up bubblegum

[fierce cipher]

In Eternal mods?

Yeah

[opal radish]

the only 2016 design i can see fitting would be hell knight cuz its the same design just remove the eyeballs

[vivid sequoia]

Hellrazer would probably still fit in if it had been kept in

[opal radish]

2016 Cybermancubus looks awesome, i like that they reused the summoner for the spirits in TAG

tho i would like to see summoners alongside arch viles, they would just have to give them new abilities to differentiate them

[fierce cipher]

Though in actual 2016's graphics, rendering, and lighting the 2016 Baron is my favorite Baron in the series.

Basically the classic Doom Baron on steroids.

[opal radish]

i didnt really like barons in 2016 i think it mightve been the lighting but they always looked weird to me

[fierce cipher]

The lighting made them look scary and threatening as fuck to me.

Anyway that's a very unpopular opinion. 2016 Barons are generally a fan favorite.

[opal radish]

hell razers were cool asf

barons arent a terrible design i just prefer the knights theyre way scarier cuz of their charge

[fierce cipher]

Eternal Barons are my least favorite in the series though.

The grey and fire look bad to me, and they look a bit plastic and cheap in Eternal's lighting and rendering.

Also they look more like a giant Dread Knight rather than a Baron

[fierce cipher]

They both charge. Well the 2016 Barons on Ultra Violence and Nightmare charged waaay more than Eternal's though.

The Eternal one doesn't charge that much

[opal radish]

the knight class in general is kinda disappointing in eternal im pretty sure they all have the exact same animations so you deal with then all in the sane way

[fierce cipher]

Dread Knights feel buggy and wonky in their programming. I don't really like them

[opal radish]

theyre just not different enough to be their own enemy type

[fierce cipher]

They're literally Hell Knights with blades and some Baron attacks

They're so unoriginal

[opal radish]

a modder could make a dread knight by just adding a mancubis ground pound effect to a hell knight smash

[fierce cipher]

Doom Hunters are pretty original on the other hand

[opal radish]

i feel like knights are scarier in 2016 cuz theres less movement options

u can dash pretty easily out of their range but theyll jumpscare u in 2016 if u arent ready for them

[opal radish]

i like that theres lot of different ways to fight him i personally never go for the shield unless i really need to

plus they place him in a lot of spots that make it act like a turret u gotta weave in n out of

Doom hunter fits 2016s style more than it does eternals from aesthetics

[fierce cipher]

2016 Barons too IMO. Especially their fireball and jump attacks can one shot you on Ultra Violence and Nightmare

In Eternal, chaingun shield, dash spam, and air abuse makes you untouchable to Barons

[opal radish]

only thing barons are really good at is quickswitch practice lol all the other enemies die in a couple switches

[fierce cipher]

Also 2016 Barons are REALLY accurate.

So the Argent D'Nur fight with 3 Barons at once, a bunch of Mancs and Cyber Mancs, some Revenants, a respawning Caco, and many imps is a really tough fight

[opal radish]

is it worth it to reinstall 2016 if i've been playing eternal

[fierce cipher]

And just like the imps they're extremely good at reading your movement

[fierce cipher]

In my opinion, yes.

Though 2016 has a rough beginning IMO

Also it takes so long to get air control in 2016

[opal radish]

it takes 4 levels to get double jump iirc

so jumping feels like youre playing castlevania

[fierce cipher]

Yeah Map 5: Argent Energy Tower is when you get double jump.

... and Lazarus Labs is when you can unlock air control.

So you spent most of 2016 having a single jump and no air control and it feels pretty crappy ngl lol

But that's why it's super fun to replay missions when you have air control and double jump unlocked

[opal radish]

still cant believe air control isnt just default movement, they were so confident in it they reused it for the next game

just feels cheap to waste a rune slot on what should be basic movement

[fierce cipher]

I guess some people don't like it according to the Eternal server

[opal radish]

whats not to like it makes your movement objectively better

its not a necessary rune like a lot of people say it is, but once u get it you just wonder why the whole game isnt like this

[slate anchor]

dingir sanctum fr

[fierce cipher]

I don't know. Even a high level professional on the Eternal server was saying he didn't like air control and called it gross

[fierce cipher]

Oh yeah that was the only Hell level you disliked in 2016?

[fierce cipher]

If I'm remembering right

[opal radish]

only argument i can think of is its too jerky to switch directions like that

it can feel kinda weightless sometimes

i think the enemies were designed with default movement in mind anyway, plus dashes feel more deliberate since theyre your only way to redirect your momentum in the air

[fierce cipher]

They might think it makes the game too easy.

But I disagree, the games are still challenging with air control.

[opal radish]

i do wanna learn how to move without it so i can get an extra rune but its such a big learning curve after playing with it the whole game

[fierce cipher]

I do think Eternal's air mobility is a bit TOO busted but that's mostly because of the meathook, dashes, and jump pads

I seen people abuse overpowered air time even without air control

[opal radish]

oh yea i didnt think about meathook

[fierce cipher]

Maybe I should try playing without air control so I can experiment with different runes.

I'm going to hate it though

I've been using Air Control, Savagery, and Blood Fueled for the vast majority of my 1,400 hours of Eternal

I used to use the slow motion one when I first started, but I hate it now.

[opal radish]

its hard but pretty fun from the small bit i experimented, i get really mindless with my jumping which you cant di as much without AC

[fierce cipher]

Yes I'm a FAAAAST boi lol

[opal radish]

i just started usung savagery cuz i realized a lot of glory kill animations are so long demons just use that time to corner you

[fierce cipher]

True, and Blood Fueled gives you a ridiculous speed boost after glory kills and chainsaws too

Blood Fueled's speed boost in 2016 wasn't nearly as extreme as Eternal's

[opal radish]

speed boost after chainsaws is so busted i love that they count them as glory kills

[fierce cipher]

It's weird because Blood Fueled counts it as a glory kill...but Savagery doesn't count chainsaws as a glory kill, so you still have a slow chainsaw animation

[opal radish]

i think its cuz they want you to use chainsaw as giving yourself a moment to regain composure but idk if it justifies how slow it is

especially with how theres only 2-3 animations per enemy type and theyre all slow asf

[fierce cipher]

Ew I just tried playing without air control right now and I can't stand it lmao

[opal radish]

i like the arachnotron one where he rips through the metal plates

mancubus one is cool too

[opal radish]

its really jarring after having it for so long but something tells me if a player gets through the curve they wouldnt even miss it

ima see if i can do a level without it

not sure what to replace it with, probably blood fueled iron equipment fiend

tried to airstafe right, hit a wall with a rocket

loving this already

[fierce cipher]

This guy biting Doomguy's dead body after he self rockets

[fierce cipher]

https://tenor.com/view/doom-doom-external-doomguy-doom-slayer-raised-eyebrown-gif-24765324

[slate anchor]

well

honestly i like all of em'

if i had to choose my least favorite hell mission it would probably be

no wait all of them are good wtf

[fierce cipher]

Oh. I think it was a guy with a Doomguy pfp that hated Kadingir Sanctum

[fierce cipher]

What's your top 3 Dewm games?

[slate anchor]

eternal #1
doom 1993#2 (never played it but looks goated)
doom 2016 #3

all are good though

other than doom 4

[fierce cipher]

Aka RAGE

[fierce cipher]

I'd rank for me:
#1 2016
#2 Doom 64 or Doom 2 especially with wads are tied
#3/4 Doom 3 Resurrection of Evil

Not sure where I'd rank them after that.

Eternal used to be a top tier for me 1-2 years ago. But I kinda soured on it and got burnt out over time.

Lol

[slate anchor]

fr

[fierce cipher]

Final Sin and Arc Complex still are bangers tho

[slate anchor]

arc complex is my favorite mission

absolutely goated

[fierce cipher]

Yes. In Eternal, yes

Though my favorite level in all of the games is VEGA Central Processing

The train battle is like the best thing.... period

[slate anchor]

goated mission but necropolis is my favorite imo

resops is cool

foundry and argent facility are eh

but argent tower is where the fun begins

[fierce cipher]

I love Argent Facility a lot

[slate anchor]

no actually argent facility is fine

[fierce cipher]

Though it's mostly the Destroyed version I love

[slate anchor]

the combat is good its just the navigation

[fierce cipher]

Oh I love the exploration on Argent Facility

Though DOOM 1993 is quite mazey, and Argent Facility kinda reminded me of Classic Doom

[slate anchor]

first time i played doom 2016 on ps5 argent tower was confusing for me

tbh

argent tower i meant mb

[fierce cipher]

Argent Energy Tower was a really weird level.

I noticed there were like platforms that floated up and flew, and I was scared to jump on them because I thought they'd kill me

On my first playthrough

I eventually found out you're supposed to ride them lol

[slate anchor]

lol smae

[fierce cipher]

I really liked Foundry

The first level. Which is The UAC is pretty average though.

Despite the amazing intro, the level itself is not as strong as Eternal or 1993's first mission.

[proper ermine]

oo yeah it looked dull

[fierce cipher]

Yeah there's that too.

Hell on Earth looked crazy, and The UAC looks kinda bland

[proper ermine]

de's first level can kiinda be seen as dull too with broken cities but the hellish flames def make it stand out a lil and the palace thing at the end was awesome

[fierce cipher]

The backdrop, chained castle, and Titans walking around looked awesome.

[proper ermine]

true

[fierce cipher]

1993's first mission isn't too special aesthetically, but it has a nice charm to it

[proper ermine]

the UAC is just a facility, not much to play around with. I will admit doom eternal handled the UAC atlantica great tho

[fierce cipher]

I just meant the level called The UAC.

[proper ermine]

oh

[fierce cipher]

Which is the first mission

But I love 2016's general UAC aesthetics. I think it was the best in the series for that. Followed by Eternal.

DOOM 3 was pretty cool UAC too because of the cool lighting effects

[storm acorn]

too easy, just long, boring, and slow

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=VTJWMJCMt5w&pp=ygUic2lzeXBodXMgcHJpbWUgZmlnaHQgbm8gY29tbWVudGFyeQ%3D%3D

i wish dark lord were more like this mf, would have fit better

[storm acorn]

i feel like a fool for underestimating remote detonation

[crimson summit]

lock on burst in 2016 sucks

remote detonation very strong

[fierce cipher]

Lock on burst very strong.

Remote detonation overpowered

[storm acorn]

nuh uh lock on burst shreds big enemies

[opal radish]

lock on is OP in both games, probably even better in 2016 cuz of higher ammo pools

[fierce cipher]

2016 lock on also much faster, and you can even shoot before it's fully locked on

Sure 2016's lock on does less damage, but you can shoot a rocket right before and right after a lock on burst to shoot 5 rockets really fast

[opal radish]

id imagine the fire rate makes up for the damage, especially with that trick

plus less self damage so spamming it is less risky

[neat plinth]

Does eternal also feel a little more cartoony then doom 2016 or that just me

[fierce cipher]

Though there is that Sylar Lock on burst tech that's really OP in Eternal

[fierce cipher]

That's intentional. Hugo Martin said Eternal was going for a Saturday Morning Cartoon

[opal radish]

probably the lighting, 2016s is really muted compared to eternal

plus the weapon designs are over the top compared to 2016

[fierce cipher]

Eternal demons are a lot goofier compared to the more realistic and threatening designs of 2016

Also the Marauder has a straight up Looney Tunes stun effect and animation

[opal radish]

just look at most of the glory kills

[fierce cipher]

Like the Cacodemons

[smoky valve]

look at my boy hell knight

they added eyes 😢

[fierce cipher]

Cacodemon glory kills are straight up Looney Tunes stuff, even the sound effects

[opal radish]

its such a small change but it makes them a lot less scary

[fierce cipher]

I don't like how they're more purplish in Eternal

But I don't like the added eyes either

[smoky valve]

everything in 2016 was more demonic

[opal radish]

i would like to see a dlc that bring you back to phobos and has all the oranges and browns

[smoky valve]

eternal makes them more classic and changes them to be more monster-like rather than demons

revenant probably got the biggest downgrade

[opal radish]

even hell is cartoony, i miss all the fog 2016 had

[fierce cipher]

Hmm. It was like 50/50 of 2016 looking more demonic....or looking more space alien. Depending on the demon

[opal radish]

mancubi were cursed but i loved them

[neat plinth]

2016 had better visuals overall in my opinion while external better gameplay

[smoky valve]

mancubus got an upgrade, theyre beefier and more threatning

[opal radish]

2016 was my first doom game so i got a soft spot for most of the designs

[fierce cipher]

2016 has my favorite aesthetics in the series, yeah

[neat plinth]

I like Mancubus much more in 2016

[opal radish]

2016 is better visually but i feel like Eternal has more varied areas

[fierce cipher]

I liked Nekravol. Though it didn't compare to 2016 Hell still

[opal radish]

youd never see an exultia or Urdak in 2016

[neat plinth]

Imagine next game has 2016 visuals with enternal gameplay

[smoky valve]

nekravol was classic hell where everything has pentagrams and metal accents

kadinger sanctum was like a medieval hell

[obtuse yew]

Are servers dead I’m even trying to connect to eu and haven’t found a match yet

[fierce cipher]

Same. Especially the Cyber Manc

[neat plinth]

Revenant took the worst road possible tho

[fierce cipher]

Oh. 2016 Revenant were my favorites

[opal radish]

arachnotrons probably fit 2016s style more than eternal

[fierce cipher]

Or do you mean Eternal downgraded them?

[neat plinth]

Yeah

I miss scary demons

[opal radish]

imagine before it gets introduced u can see its shadow climbing up cielings n stuff, be like something straight outta dead space

[fierce cipher]

Agree. Revenants and Barons got the biggest downgrades

[neat plinth]

I was so sad when I saw a zombie

That was devastating

[fierce cipher]

DOOM 64 were my second favorite demons behind 2016

[opal radish]

might be an unpopular opinion but i prefer eternal revenants

[fierce cipher]

Extremely unpopular

But to me Eternal Revenants looked like plastic toy bootlegs of the 2016 ones

[opal radish]

ill say the hazy eye effect is cool in 2016 but itd look weird with the new style

[neat plinth]

Although doom 2016 did have some cons

[fierce cipher]

The Pain Elemental in DOOM 64 is extremely fucked up in its design

[neat plinth]

Like multiplayer achievements

[opal radish]

both new dooms have mid multiplayer in general

[neat plinth]

Well doom enternal doesn’t have half of its achievements towards multiplayer so that’s nice

[opal radish]

dont get me wrong battlemode is super underrated but regular deathmatch wouldve had much better reception

[opal radish]

i just remember there being loadouts and two weapon limit which feels kinda counter to deathmatch

[fierce cipher]

DOOM II demons look better than their Eternal counterparts to me.

They had more of a charm and threat factor with their 90s graphics.

They get kinda lost when remade into modern graphics IMO

[neat plinth]

Doom 2016 multiplayer is fun if you can some people to load up

If not it’s wait in the lobby simulator

[fierce cipher]

Yeah I thought 2016 Multiplayer was pretty cool.

Eternal's multiplayer sucked though

[opal radish]

i think they did really good on spiders and pain elementals only thing i would change is make mancubi have darker skin

[neat plinth]

Wish they kept the multiplayer from 2016 just got rid of the achievements

[fierce cipher]

I prefer the DOOM II Mancubi faces over Eternal's.

They changed the face too much

[neat plinth]

I like Mancubis face from 2016 more then enternal

[opal radish]

battlemode is sick if you learn it demons just dont have the same appeal cuz you only get one weapon

[fierce cipher]

Agreed

2016 followed by DOOM 3 have my favorite Mancubus.

DOOM 3 Mancubus was the perfect hybrid of an Eldritch horror and the classic Mancubus

[opal radish]

is there a lore reason they look so different or is it just the new aesthetic

[elder meadow]

Different demon breeds.

[opal radish]

like different areas of hell make them mutate differently

[neat plinth]

Kinda funny how you can start from 2016 and have basic knowledge on doom lore

[smoky valve]

i.e. fireborne barons (de) are a dif breed than the 'classic' barons (1993, 2016, etc)

[opal radish]

i never read codexes and i only played it twice when i was a kid

even now i dont really read them i get all my lore from youtube videos

[fierce cipher]

I think they mean that playing only 2016 still gives you a good grasp on lore

[elder meadow]

Doom 2016's Mancubi are visually implied to be a sort of Cacodemon breed.

[opal radish]

oh that makes more sense

[elder meadow]

Compare with Cacodemons and you'll see 2016 Mancubi faces are literally identical.

[fierce cipher]

Also unpopular opinion but I really like the DOOM 64 Mancubus.

They're the most hated Manc designs from what I have seen

[opal radish]

they kinda give me high fantasy orc vibes

[fierce cipher]

Also 2016 Cyberdemon being a different species from Tyrants

[opal radish]

or trolls

[fierce cipher]

They look kinda cow-like

[elder meadow]

Personally I don't care for them because they, along with certain other designs, contribute to Doom 2016's bestiary feeling same-y and not very like Doom.

[crimson summit]

gauss cannon pb was arguably decent

[neat plinth]

Was the final boss easy for any reason?? For doom 2016

[elder meadow]

There isn't enough of an emphasis on flesh-and-metal combination, and the demons all look too much like generic aliens.

[crimson summit]

not as good as instant siege mode but it was decent

[fierce cipher]

Can't agree at all.

[fierce cipher]

It was really good, just overshadowed by Siege.

[opal radish]

i remember just spamming the scope on the heavy cannon and heat blast

[crimson summit]

scope spam is very funny after all

[fierce cipher]

Wait I said D64

[elder meadow]

Oh, I misread your message.

[fierce cipher]

I think people like 2016 Mancs, but hate 64 Mancs

[neat plinth]

Idk he does look a little goofy

[fierce cipher]

True. He's the goofiest looking Manc

[crimson summit]

spamming the scope is busted on the heavy assault rifle (once again there are better alternatives as you upgrade your arsenal)

[fierce cipher]

The DOOM 3 Mancubus is the creepiest one

[crimson summit]

honestly i just go nuts with it on tougher demons early on

[opal radish]

it might be the proportions, his legs are tall compared to all the other designs

[opal radish]

just spam PB and heat blast

and ssg once u get it

[fierce cipher]

It's ironic because 64 demons are usually some of the creepiest ones, but the Manc is an exception

[neat plinth]

Mancubus in doom 3 looks really scary

[fierce cipher]

I like PBing and then meleeing into an instant regular Gauss shot

[fierce cipher]

Yes. For sure

[crimson summit]

already beat the game

[fierce cipher]

He also looks more like the classic Mancubus compared to 2016. But like a scary version

[fierce cipher]

The Revenants?

[neat plinth]

Back there I was talking about multiplayer and saying that the designs were its biggest pro to the game

[fierce cipher]

The Eternal Zombies were kinda funny looking atleast. But I did prefer the 2016 ones

[neat plinth]

Doom enternal zombies looks like a enemy from a old school cod zombies

Really trash

[fierce cipher]

Tru

What do you think of DOOM 3 Zombies?

[neat plinth]

I liked how they could wear different clothing

So they were varied

[fierce cipher]

Speaking of creepy

DOOM 3 Pinkies were WTF

[neat plinth]

Yeah that wasn’t fun

Pinkies looked crazy

[fierce cipher]

They had robot legs too

[neat plinth]

They were really big as well

[fierce cipher]

I think DOOM 64 Pinky was the best at looking scary , but still looking like a DOOM Pinky

DOOM 3 Pinky didn't even look like a Pinky lol

[neat plinth]

He looked like a clay animation in 64

[fierce cipher]

Yeah but very creepy and mean looking

He'd rip the DOOM 1993 and DOOM II Pinky in half

But 2016 and Eternal are my personal favorite Pinky

[fierce cipher]

Instant siege mode was something else

[crimson summit]

instantly kill 75% of demons instantly

[fierce cipher]

Instantly twice?

[opal radish]

2016 is 50% downloaded

hate having such a slow wifi but at least ill get to play a good ass game once its done

[tiny moon]

I made a mod so bad it crashes your game

[fierce cipher]

Based

[fierce cipher]

Replayed VEGA Central Processing and it's still my favorite level in any video game.

[fierce cipher]

They cooked with this masterpiece

I'm not sure if I would Argent D'Nur or Necropolis as 2nd doe

[storm acorn]

i just beat necropolis without losing any health

fastest hell guards kill

[fierce cipher]

GOATed boss

[storm acorn]

nuh uh spider mastermind better

hell guards took way too long

[fierce cipher]

Tbh Spider Mastermind feels a bit longer to me

[fierce cipher]

Atleast it isn't Icon of Sin length lol

[storm acorn]

i liked icon tbh

[fierce cipher]

Top 3 level.

Probably my favorite Hell level out of both new Doom games

[fierce cipher]

Along with Argent D'Nur

[fierce cipher]

He feels so drawnout and tedious and doesn't really feel like a boss fight, and more like an arena of infinite enemies where you shoot at a still cardboard wall

[storm acorn]

doom 2 icon with extra steps

[fierce cipher]

But DOOM 3 has the best Hell levels and depiction IMO

Especially the Hell on Lost Mission

Have you fought Plutonia Icon?

[full panther]

Would anyone be down to play multiplayer? I wanna 100% and need the achievements. Dm me if you’d be down, and I play whenever

[peak meteor]

console or pc

[full panther]

Console. I’m on Xbox

[peak meteor]

ough, thats rough

from what ive heard, console side is barely active

maybe look for groups online

i know theres one for steam but idk if there is one for xbox or playstation

[obsidian relic]

Im just chilling on Arcade mode rn

[deft patio]

I'm up for that. I would also like to 100% the game. Only have mp left to do

[obsidian relic]

Me too. But I don't really care for the multiplayer

[deft patio]

Think of it this way, sooner they are done, sooner you can enjoy the main focus of the game and NEVER have to touch the mp again

[full panther]

Exactly, I wanna 100% and I finished the campaign but I don’t want to do everything else if I can’t do the multiplayer achievements with anyone

[neat plinth]

Dude I love doom 2016 multiplayer, so for me I just grinded the achievements sense I was having fun

[rigid jasper]

been grinding UN and been going for lockon but a lot of people seem to swear by remote det- i don't really see what the benefit is, if someone could illuminate?

also if anyone knows a way to make the game not pause on alt tab thatd be great

[wispy hedge]

With remote detonation you don’t really need to have good aim in order to use it

For example you can aim for the side of a cacodemon and miss your shot, but when you RD it you can still hit it with the blast radius

[fierce cipher]

Have you fully upgraded it?

[high jetty]

Hey can anybody give me tips, I'm doing a nightmare run, but keep dieing in that mini industrial fight, where we fight like 3 of those hell knights, but keep DIEING to them because they oneshot me

[slender nymph]

Anyone getting on multiplayer?

[ebon python]

Hi

[peak meteor]

yea its still good

[peak meteor]

what level is it?

if you have trouble dealing with hell knights, use stun bomb mod from the plasma gun

but keep your distance from them

[slender moth]

New to DOOM here, I just got every upgrade on the combat shotgun’s explosive shot and now I’m clueless as to what I should spend the rest of my weapon points on. I’ve only got the tactical scope and micro missiles (with no upgrades) as the other weapon attachments I have too. Any ideas? (I have the rocket launcher and plasma rifle aswell)

[wispy hedge]

For Plasma Rifle upgrade Stun Bomb

Locks monsters in place for a few seconds when used and allows you to target them easier

Stun Bomb in 2016 is your saving grace, especially on NM and UN

[fierce cipher]

Stun bomb plus mobile siege mode wrecks everything

[high jetty]

Ok thank you guys!

[spark sonnet]

anyone want to play the doom 2016 multiplayer need 1 more person

[storm acorn]

fr?

[wispy hedge]

Yes, it’s really effective even if it’s just a few seconds

It wasn’t even brought back into Eternal mind you

[storm acorn]

is it just me or is plasma rifle just kinda useless

[wispy hedge]

Plasma Rifle is good for Stun Bomb

Primary fire? Not so much

[fierce cipher]

The mods are fucking ridiculous.

Not even just stun bomb, but the heat blast as well

Heat Blast charges passively, unlike Eternal. Takes significantly less shots to fully charge, and can be used after any shot, instead of Eternal where you fill up a certain bar to heat blast

It also does a lot more damage and has significantly more range than Eternal's heat blast.

Heat Blast is bonkers in 2016, and it's already pretty good in Eternal despite being nerfed a lot.

The only bad thing about 2016's Plasma Rifle is the base fire. But the mods make it the most useful plasma rifle in the whole series.

[bold sun]

https://youtu.be/Rshoq-kOA58 made a comp u can rip, tear, and study to (not really)

[bold sun]

stun bomb is broken

[fierce cipher]

Good old Necropolis. The best Hell based mission IMO

[bold sun]

Yeah, it’s tied with kadingr sanctum as one of my favs.

[fierce cipher]

I love all the Hell levels.

I think Argent D'Nur would be my second favorite Hell map

[fierce cipher]

Though my favorite level in the whole game, beyond just Hell is VEGA Central Processing.

[bold sun]

Vega central has the best arena in the entire game, the train arena.

That arena is like a master level in itself.

[bold sun]

Oh yeah argent dnur is amazing, but I think I have kadingr sanctum as my favourite only because I was introduced to doom 2016 through clockners kadningr sanctum gameplay

[fierce cipher]

Clockner is awesome. I know he hated Eternal though

Have you watched FatMetro? He's sorta similar to Clockner but has some Eternal videos as well as 2016.

[bold sun]

Who discovered quickswitching in doom 2016? Was it clockner?

[bold sun]

Oh yeah, loved his necropolis gameplay

[fierce cipher]

I don't know. It's kinda ironic because Hugo Martin based Eternal's gameplay based off of Clockner's speedrunning but he still hates Eternal and doesn't see it as a real DOOM game

He likes the meathook and music though

[bold sun]

Oh yeah, he'd had that entire community post ranting on the game

[fierce cipher]

And he thought UAC Atlantica was cool

He liked how UAC Atlantica was a return to the gritty 2016 aesthetic

[fierce cipher]

Yes, also posted a picture of TAG 2 and asked "does this look like DOOM to you?"

[bold sun]

Yeah uac is one of my fav levels in doom eternal, the ost and arenas are great.

[fierce cipher]

He had a point though. TAG 2 felt and looked like a Marvel action movie

[bold sun]

Bruh 💀

[fierce cipher]

But I liked TAG 2, atleast Reclaimed Earth

World Spear was okay. Immora had a few cool encounters.

[bold sun]

Haven't actually played tag 2 lmao, only did tag 1

[fierce cipher]

For TAG 1, I liked UAC Atlantica and Blood Swamps, but didn't like The Holt too much, even though it was pretty

I know FatMetro didn't like Blood Swamps though, which is understandable

[bold sun]

I prolly prefer uac over blood swamps personally

[fierce cipher]

For Blood Swamps, it takes waaay too long to get to the two cool arenas

Most of it is kinda tedious down time and fog sections and stuff

But the two arenas near the end are really cool

Still a cool level though, just a bit tedious to replay at times

[bold sun]

The possessed barons upon first time playing kicked my ass bruh
But I got the hang of it

[fierce cipher]

I prefer UAC as well, especially since it has the killer Slayer Gate

[fierce cipher]

I loved freezing the possessed Baron as he spawns in, before the spirit takes over and then blood punching and punch swap comboing him

Also fun fact, if you kill all the waves before destroying the buff totem, the spirit will end up getting a Carcass instead of a Baron lol

[bold sun]

I always used to deal with barons using quick swaps and shield bashes 💀

[bold sun]

Demn.

[fierce cipher]

Also for some reason, a lot of times if you freeze him before the spirit gets in him, when he gets unfrozen he'd still behave and look and falter like a regular Baron, and the spirit will only show when you kill him

It's so bizarre

Like the game thinks he's possessed but not possessed at the same time

[bold sun]

They didn't patch this?

[fierce cipher]

I did a few weeks ago. So nah

Was it an old exploit?

Eternal's a weird ass game lmao

[bold sun]

Idk never found it until I heard it from u lmao

[fierce cipher]

Funny thing is, if Hugo learns about it, I doubt he'd even get the team to patch it anyway.

Considering they seem finished with Eternal

Also he likes seeing the speedrun exploits and finds them funny anyway

[bold sun]

Do u think id's next game is gonna be doom or smth else?

[fierce cipher]

I guess this isn't necessarily a speedrun exploit but still

[fierce cipher]

Probably DOOM tbh, but I hope it's Quake or something

[bold sun]

I hope its quake too, cuz I want doom to get a break

[fierce cipher]

We have a lot of DOOM games, and we have a lot of custom content with WADs, SnapMaps, and mods

DOOM's already Eternal enough as it is

[fierce cipher]

More custom content than any FPS really

[bold sun]

Agreed, it will always be so

[fierce cipher]

Yeah plus I got super burnt out from Eternal, even though I still love Arc Complex

[bold sun]

Doom 1 and 2 itself prolly have more custom content than any other fps, withh all the wads

[bold sun]

How many hours u got in eternal and 2016?

[fierce cipher]

They're like the Super Mario World and Super Mario 64 of FPS

[fierce cipher]

1,400 hours in Eternal. Idk how much in 2016

I'm guessing 300-400 hours for 2016

But it's funny because I'm not burnt out from 2016, only Eternal

Also I find Eternal too easy at this point with my mastery, but 2016 still kicks my ass

[bold sun]

DEMN. I don't have doom eternal in my pc but I do know that on doom 2016, I got like at least 200 hours on ps4 maybe, and 75 on pc

[bold sun]

Kb and mouse or controller?

[fierce cipher]

Controller on Xbox One S

Not Series S though, just regular Xbox One S

[bold sun]

Ohhh nice

[fierce cipher]

So DLCs and Master Levels can have really bad frame drops especially World Spear

[bold sun]

Oh, also, fav gun in doom 2016?

[fierce cipher]

Hmm. That's tough. I love all the guns.

Probably the Heavy Assault Rifle because of the super sexy sound and micro missiles.

I also love the scope as a finisher or clean up headshotting fodder.

It also just looks awesome

[bold sun]

Me personally, gauss cannon. Pure power behind every shot, don't get me started on seige mode

[fierce cipher]

I prefer it over Eternal's Heavy Cannon for sound effects, design, and even function

[fierce cipher]

I love Precision Bolting into meleeing to do an instant regular Gauss shot afterwards

The rocket launcher is also one of my favorites. As I love shooting a regular rocket into a lock on burst into another regular rocket for 5 extremely fast rapid rockets back to back

And I love the sound effects it makes when doing that

Also a trick with combining melees at the same time to do like 8 or more rockets really fast

[bold sun]

Yo I love doing that, one of my fav combos is 1 rocket, into lock o rocket, into 1 rocket, to gauss cannon, then ssg

[fierce cipher]

I know you probably seen FatMetro and Clockner do that a lot

[rugged zephyr]

yeah the sound effect of the normal shot of the heavy cannon always bothered me

it sounds like a toy gun

[fierce cipher]

Yeah the Heavy Cannon base fire sounds like a stapler.

Same for the micro missiles when you don't activate the buff

[bold sun]

Yup, I learnt that trick, and also learnt that summoners go into glory kill from one lock on

[rugged zephyr]

with the buff tho

[fierce cipher]

The Precision Bolt sounds pretty damn good, but I prefer the way the 2016 scoped shooting sounds. It sounds like a fully automatic .50 cal

Also extremely echoey

[rugged zephyr]

😙👌

[fierce cipher]

Yeah sounds amazing with the buff. Though I still prefer 2016's micro missiles sounds and explosion effects oddly.

Full Auto Shotty sounds amazing too

[rugged zephyr]

I dont remember but youre probably right

[fierce cipher]

Yeah the only Eternal gun I liked aesthetically and sound effects-wise more, was the Plasma Rifle....lol

[rugged zephyr]

maybe the ballista too

[fierce cipher]

Though 2016 Plasma Rifle with Quad Damage power up actually sounds better than the Eternal Plasma Rifle

[bold sun]

Classic plasma rifle 🔥

[fierce cipher]

Classic Plasma Rifle and DOOM 3 Plasma Rifle are my favorites

Well 2016 Plasma Rifle with quad damage might be my favorite Plasma Rifle sound effect, but you can't get that all the time lol

[bold sun]

Barely get power ups, except if its haste. Haste>>>>

[fierce cipher]

I think Gauss Siege mode sounds better than Destroyer Blade, and Gauss base fire sounds better than Ballista base fire, but Arbalest beats the Gauss Precision Bolt sound effects

I'd say I prefer the Gauss Cannon aesthetically as well and the way it looks when charged

With the blue

I prefer blue over orange

[rugged zephyr]

eternal got the bottle sound effect for the headshots, so who is really better here...

[fierce cipher]

I think Eternal's Sticky Bombs sound better than the 2016 Shotgun grenade mod

[bold sun]

Can agree with that.

[fierce cipher]

Eternal also had much better sounding frag grenades

[bold sun]

Wish the sfx for doom eternal, were beefier.

[fierce cipher]

Eternal's frag grenades when it activates the scatter bombs scares the shit out of me sometimes.

They really nailed the grenade sounds

[fierce cipher]

Indeed. There's a few cool sounds like the blood punch, grenades, and the temporary red heat mode of the Plasma Rifle though

But a lot of it sounds like light feathery plastic toy guns tbh overall.

2016 sounded really heavy, metallic, and powerful.

[bold sun]

U finished doom 2016 on ultra nightmare imma guess?

[fierce cipher]

Biggest downgrade in sounds were SSG and Chaingun.

Like holy

[fierce cipher]

No actually. Have you?

[fierce cipher]

I remember FatMetro also thought Eternal's SSG sounds terrible lol

But the Chaingun is even worse

[fierce cipher]

I like that sound too yeah

[fierce cipher]

I also think the remote det sound of Eternal's rocket launcher is pretty good, actually sounds better than 2016's remote detonation

[neat plinth]

anyone willing to boost multiplayer 2016

[brave palm]

Anyone wanna doom 2016 multiplayer Xbox

We have 3

[fierce cipher]

Did somebody delete their posts?

[deft patio]

@fierce cipher u up for xbox mp?

[fierce cipher]

I gotta sleep soon. Also I don't really play multiplayer

[fierce cipher]

Sorry

[brave palm]

Wake your ass up soldier it’s time to slay some demons🐦‍🔥

[twin ore]

Is it cross platform? I play in steam. I've been craving this game for a long time. I don't even remember how to play it xD

[maiden urchin]

no crossplatform multiplayer unfortunately

[neat plinth]

You wanna play I’m on steam

Trying to get these achievements

[bold sun]

Nope. I play mostly on uv lmao

[rigid jasper]

why do summoners shoot straight through walls

[fierce cipher]

2016 I beat on Nightmare once or twice, and sometimes replay missions on Nightmare, but I mostly play UV because imp and Baron fireballs are often way too cracked on Nightmare lol

Vast majority of my Eternal play time was Nightmare though.

[fierce cipher]

Summoner are kinda broken lol

[bold sun]

Imps in doom 2016 are scary as hell 💀

U barely noticed their existence in doom eternal, until u needed ammo

But doom 2016, gotta make sure u don't get surrounded or sniped across the map with a fireball

[bold sun]

Nah, spawncamp using rocket launcher lock on, and ur good to go

Tho if u don't kill them in time

Then it's a problem

[fierce cipher]

Just talking about their attacks.

Their wave attacks are super cracked and clip through and scale and climb everywhere

Also one shot kills you on Nightmare if I remember right

[fierce cipher]

Them on the VEGA train battle when they teleport and hide everywhere. Like holy fuck

[bold sun]

Doom 2016 nightmare is broken

I like playing on uv, balanced difficulty, can be challenging but still fun

[fierce cipher]

Summoner wave beams still do ridiculous stuff on UV, though they don't seem to one shot you

Foundry on early game Nightmare is one of the most ludicrous difficulty spikes in history

Even Cultist Base wasn't nearly as ridiculous of a spike

What are your least favorite levels in 2016?

[bold sun]

I remember myself having trouble on foundry first time playing.

[bold sun]

Prolly lazarus labs

Just too many close spaces

Tbh the best levels in the game are hell levels (vega core is an exception, cuz that level is just pure fun).

[bold sun]

Tho cool boss fight

[fierce cipher]

I used to dislike Lazarus Labs, but I love it now

I'd say the worst level is probably the first one lol

Maybe Resource Operations as well

[fierce cipher]

The Hell levels are peak. VEGA Central Processing is the straight up GOAT.

Also love Argent Facility Destroyed, Argent Energy Tower, and Advanced Research Complex.

[bold sun]

Just remembered that level exists lmao 💀

But yeah, honestly bottom 3 (for me) are lazarus, uac and resource ops

Top 3 for me is kadingr sanctum, necropolis and vega

[fierce cipher]

Foundry is pretty great too.

2016 had a lot of really cool exploration. Especially with Argent Facility and Foundry that Eternal kinda dropped unfortunately

[bold sun]

Yeah argent tower is amazing

[bold sun]

Foundry, in a first playthrough, is both fun and challenging, def one of my favs

[fierce cipher]

It's my favorite platforming type level in a DOOM game

Argent Facility and Argent Facility Destroyed I think are my favorites of the more mazey/Foundry/explorative type maps

Especially the Destroyed version

I love the Baron battles in the interiors too

[bold sun]

Yeah true, there are some great arenas in argent facility (destroyed) and argent tower has one of the best arenas in the entire game

[fierce cipher]

Not to say Eternal didn't have some degree of cool exploration. Super Gore Nest was pretty cool exploration just not nearly as much as something like Foundry or Argent Facility

[fierce cipher]

The ending to Argent Tower is godlike and the way you explode to Hell is legendary.

[bold sun]

Agreed, Foundry has ALOT of exploration

[bold sun]

Yeah, that final arena is one of the best in 2016, made me realize how amazing argent tower was lmao

[fierce cipher]

I also would get lost a lot in the Argent Facilities when I went for 100% lol

[fierce cipher]

Yeah underrated level too, as I see a lot of hate for it.

Even Clockner dislikes it because he doesn't like all the platforming lol

[bold sun]

I think one of the reasons I don't replay that level much is because of that platforming, but the arenas are great nonetheless

[fierce cipher]

But I thought the platforming was super cool. It felt larger than life and had super cool verticality, atmosphere, and world building behind it

Also BFG Division ambience, build up, and combat

[bold sun]

Me personally, not much of a platforming kinda person, but good arena = good level

[fierce cipher]

I like 2016 platforming because of the strong sense of place, history, and interconnectivity...

But I didn't like Eternal platforming where it was just random floating stuff tacked into the world that had no logic, history, or atmosphere behind it

But I prefer arenas as well as exploration over platforming

[fierce cipher]

The aesthetic is one of my favorites too. It's so damn cool looking

[bold sun]

Doom 2016 has really good ambience and aesthetics, sometimes even better than doom eternal in some areas imo. I like both renditions of hell. I love both he gritty rendition of hell in 2016, and a more colourful vibrant rendition by eternal

[neat plinth]

Any doom 2016 multiplayer boosters? (Pc only)

[fierce cipher]

I preferred 2016 aesthetically over Eternal

But Eternal still looked good

[brave palm]

Anybody doom 2016 multiplayer Xbox

[deft patio]

Need 1 more

[bold sun]

https://youtu.be/mQZiVni9HBI prolly the most badass thing ive created, also happy birthday doom 2016.

[storm acorn]

combine doom 2016 aesthetics and doom eternal gameplay and you got the perfect doom game

[rugged zephyr]

I dont think one aesthetic is better than the other, both can coexist

[wispy hedge]

In my personal opinion I feel like both can coexist in terms of aesthetics

Not like other games though, for example as you can never get the true vanilla feel of Doom when playing modded for example

Or maps (unless you’re John Romero with Sigil 1 and 2, then that’s an exception)

Why I bring up modded classic Doom? It’s to compare that people have different art styles that kinda clash together while with 2016 and Eternal, they’re similar enough

[fierce cipher]

2016 and Eternal play so different that I wouldn't really call that concept an upgrade really.

[peak meteor]

lol imagine gauss cannon in eternal

[spice cedar]

Isn't the Ballista basically Eternal's Gauss Cannon though

[storm acorn]

how do i use command console

[storm acorn]

it got nerfed really bad in eternal

[storm acorn]

too op

[wispy hedge]

*Balanced greatly

I mean you have to admit

Gauss Cannon is absolutely broken

Especially with the quick swap to immediate siege mode bug that somehow never got fixed

[maiden surge]

Nekravol in eternal has a very 2016 feeling to it.

[peak meteor]

so true, plus ballista mods are actually balanced and both have their pros and cons whereas the gauss cannon has one op mod and the other mod no one cares about cuz siege mode completely overshadowed it

[minor sky]

chat, what’s the best way to deal with the cyber mancubi when surrounded by cacodemons?

[peak meteor]

bfg

or stun bomb, siege mode on the cacodemons and circle around the mancubi

use lock on mod from rocket launcher, gauss cannon and ssg

its the go to combo, pretty much kills everything

but make sure to take advantage of the stun bomb mod from plasma gun

[storm acorn]

bfg if lazy
kill c-mancubus first if not, then take down cacodemons

[fierce cipher]

With punch swapping, punch swap Ballista boosts, bunny hops, and double shot Dblade or Arbalest tech, Eternal's Ballista is arguably more broken.

It's just 2016's Gauss was easier and more accessible to take advantage of the overpoweredness

[fierce cipher]

I'd say it's more D64 and maybe Doom 3 rather than 2016

[fierce cipher]

Siege mode the Cacos lol

[minor sky]

👍

[brisk junco]

I wish Doom Eternal kept 2016's customization, esp since it appears in the campaign. But like man its customization is so good it's almost like halo

[maiden surge]

But the weird robot woman is there as a statue! So it’s a little 2016 vibes.

[brisk junco]

Actually if it was just arms and then left shoulder n right shoulder (as opposed to it being left arm right arm, the shoulders being bundled in) it would be on par with halo 4 and halo 2 anniversary's customization besides having visors (although the better color/pattern customization more than makes up for that)

[maiden surge]

https://tenor.com/view/happy-dance-meme-gif-16875988117468559280

I just killed a mancubi

[fierce cipher]

What? I don't remember 2016 customization affecting Campaign, only SnapMaps and Multiplayer.

[brisk junco]

No I meant I wish Doom Eternal had 2016's armor customization, especially because eternal's customization carries into campaign

[fierce cipher]

Olivia Pierce at the very end, yeah

[fierce cipher]

Yeah , but only the weapons and Slayer's customization.

I wish the demon skins also appeared in the Campaign.

[brisk junco]

that would be cool too

[fierce cipher]

But I wish Eternal had 2016 armor customization too

But don't make the 2016 armor themselves come back, they all looked like Halo 4 and Halo 5 outfits LOL

[fierce cipher]

The multiplayer armor I mean.

I love the 2016 Praetor though

[brisk junco]

I like the armor

[fierce cipher]

Do you like Halo 4 and 5 multiplayer armors as well?

[brisk junco]

some

Mixed bag honestly

[fierce cipher]

2016 multiplayer armors looked much better than 343i Halo armor?

[winter stream]

343i doesn't know how to render metallic objects istg

The armours look like plastic

[fierce cipher]

The only good armor 343i did was Halo Infinite Campaign Master Chief

[winter stream]

Yeah that's about it

Mainly because the design of it alone makes it look like it can withstand a lot of damage

[brisk junco]

Halo 3 and ODST also have that tbf

I personally dig the look

[brisk junco]

I think Infinite has a lot of good armor, there's def some stinkers but a lot of gems

[minor sky]

I kinda wish they kept the revenant model. However they did cook with the models of almost everything else.

[orchid geyser]

Im going to try to beat my ultra-violence run of the game today because of the anniversary! Wish me luck!

[coral marlin]

I am having a mild issue. DOOM 2016 refuses to launch. As in, I click play, 3 seconds later, the 'stop' button goes away and it's back to 'play', with absolutely nothing opening. I've updated my drivers, manually added it to NVIDIA's control panel, verified integrity of the game's files, and full-on uninstalled and installed it again. I'd appreciate any help

[winter stream]

in your local game files, do you see anything called dinput8.dll ?

[coral marlin]

yes I do

[winter stream]

unfortunately, legacymod is not compatible with the april 2024 patch of the game

[coral marlin]

thank you 👍

[storm acorn]

heat blast or stun bomb

[fierce cipher]

Stun Bomb is more busted, but heat blast is more fun

[storm acorn]

i have more fun with stun bomb

[fierce cipher]

And heat blast is still stupidly good when maxed anyway

It's better than Eternal's heat blast

[storm acorn]

plasma rifle just sucks in eternal 💀

[fierce cipher]

They're both really fun IMO. Depends on my mood and the arena I guess

[fierce cipher]

It's good. They actually buffed the base fire.

[storm acorn]

i prefer stun bomb, mainly because i haven't found any use for heat blast other than killing fodder

• stunning barons, cyber mancs, and pinkies is really helpful

tho remote detonation is still the best counter for pinkies, whether it be eternal or 2016

and i think eternals heat blast is better

[fierce cipher]

Full charge heat blast does a ridiculous amount of damage.... and it takes significantly less shots to fully charge it compared to Eternal

[storm acorn]

mainly because it buffs the base fire

[storm acorn]

despite it not costing any ammo, you gotta stay dangerously close to an enemy for it to do damage

[fierce cipher]

That's about the only thing that's better. But you have to waste a shitton of ammo to activate the buff and it lasts so short that it's barely worth it

Meanwhile 2016 heat blast can be used after any shot .

Can be charged with significantly less shots.

Can charge passively or in your pocket, and it does a lot more damage and has a lot more range than Eternal's heat blast

[fierce cipher]

To me it felt quite long. Atleast when fully maxed

Further than Eternal's even

And Stun Bomb is of course better than microwave beam . No debates there IMO

[storm acorn]

when fully maxed you basically get free damage at the cost of no ammo, but the cooldown is kind of long, and you gotta be very close to an enemy

[storm acorn]

see, microwave beam looks cooler

[fierce cipher]

Yeah it's more stylish

[storm acorn]

plus i love cooking up imps for dinner

[fierce cipher]

I'm pretty sure swapping removes the cool down.

But the range is pretty far from my experience

Eternal's heat blast has no range though on the other hand

[fierce cipher]

I like how you can microwave beam multiple demons at once if they get in front of the demons you're already microwave beaming

I love the explosion sound of the microwave beam too.

Tbh the microwave beam sound effects actually remind me a lot of DOOM 3's Plasma Rifle

[storm acorn]

the range just seems too risky for me to use, and it cant really falter a mancubus, and the fact that it does not cost ammo isn't enough to convince me to use it, because rich get richer exists, and theres more ammo littered in this game than there is plastic in the oceans

[fierce cipher]

Yeah Eternal's heat blast does seem a lot better at faltering enemies come to think about it.

[fierce cipher]

I don't like using Rich Get Richer lol

[storm acorn]

rich get richer + armored offensive + seek and destroy is a devious combo

[fierce cipher]

Blowing up energy shields is satisfying with Eternal's Plasma Rifle, from microwave beam to heat blast to even the base fire.

[storm acorn]

base fire sounds better in eternal

[elder meadow]

hello evry1

if any1 still plays doom 2016 add me, want exp : D

[fierce cipher]

Yes. A lot better

2016 has the worst Plasma Rifle base fire in the franchise.

Both sound effects and even functionality.

[fierce cipher]

I like the Classics and DOOM 3 base fire the most

[wispy hedge]

functionality in 2016 is underestandable but the noise it makes? Really? I prefer it over the classics/64s

[fierce cipher]

Maybe over 64. As 64's sounded quite weak

But DOOM 1993/DOOM II Plasma Rifle sounded like a monster

[wispy hedge]

I mean yeah it did I'll give it that

but I prefer the more satisfying sounds

[fierce cipher]

2016's and 64's Plasma Rifle sound like plastic toy guns

Eternal's Plasma Rifle is pretty good,but DOOM 3's better IMO

[fierce cipher]

Base fire sounded so pathetic in 2016 and 64. Not satisfying at all.

It sounds amazing with Quad Damage doe

But you very rarely get Quad Damage unfortunately

[pliant pine]

Doom is god

Ww3 x 9 11

[elder meadow]

I hate that Melee and Gory Kills are [F] instead of being the same button as Use [E]

[vivid sequoia]

Eh, it’s alright once you get used to it

What’s wilder is the hitreg for them in multiplayer. So many hilarious deaths due to an obvious glory kill missing.

[wispy hedge]

you have glory kills as [F]? I have it as MOUSE4

[crimson summit]

armored offensive is goated in arcade mode imo

the armor drops alone are enough to nearly fill the entire multiplier bar

[elder meadow]

I'm using a normal mouse (Mouse1 + Mouse2)

and also F is default for Glorey kills

[leaden valve]

Hell choir hits hard

Best song

[brisk junco]

Funnily enough I'm the opposite, I don't like the use and melees being the same, I honestly think they should just be separate binds that you can bind to the same key

[echo crane]

Anyone has online groups for achievements or smt?

[storm acorn]

i actually like that, my mod button is E

anyway im gonna try to get used to not using rich get richer

its completely rewired my playstyle

[echo crane]

Feel free to ping me when looking for multiplayer

[amber ocean]

do you play eternal? or the ps4 version?

[echo crane]

2016

As the chat indicates

@amber ocean

[peak meteor]

lol

[cold root]

so, at one point, I was trying to get some of the multiplayer achievements with a friend of mine, but they didn't unlock at all even though I definitely got the unlocking requirements for some of them

could it be perhaps because it's a private match? private matches don't count towards multiplayer achievement progress or something?

[winter stream]

Correct

[cold root]

oh
so I have to play on public matches to get the multiplayer achievements?

[winter stream]

Yes

Unfortunately

[peak meteor]

always hate games that lock achievements behind multiplayer

[open delta]

anyone wanna do snapmaps

[calm mirage]

I am so angry right now. I have never had an issue before, but now when I start the game, it loads to 99% and then hangs. I have nothing interfering with it; hell, the only thing running when I try to play is Steam. I have tried all of the troubleshooting I could, and nothing works- verifying integrity, re-installing, clearing cache/shaders/etc. NOTHING works. It starts loading normally, then gets to about 85-90, then jumps BACK and then jumps to 99% and just sits there, dead. There is no activity in process. It's just dead. And I am NOT making an account just to report it to Bethesda. I don't need an account to report bugs to any other games I play. I'm not about to go giving data to a giant corp to scrape when there is literally ZERO reason for them to need me to do so. So if someone here could please help me with this, I would really appreciate it.
I'm running Linux: Fedora (40) KDE Plasma (6); AMD graphics and processor, 16 GB RAM, and a partridge in a pear tree. The game worked on Fedora 39, now it doesn't.

[elder meadow]

yearly appearance by me

[storm acorn]

cya next year

[elder meadow]

oki

ay i remember you

[dawn loom]

What region has the biggest amount of active players?

I want to get online trophies asap so i‘ll be insured that I can get my platinum at any time

[edgy arch]

If anyone ever wants to try play multiplayer on Xbox please lmk 🫡

[elder meadow]

Maybe it's one of your drivers?

I've seen driver updates that mess games up

[peak meteor]

idk if console side even has active players tbh

so you might be at a dead end for trophies unfortunately

[bold sun]

https://youtu.be/GZXlo9qwdG8 just wanted to showcase some skills (and some reshaders.)

[storm acorn]

hottake: heavy assault rifle is useless in doom 2016

[fierce cipher]

That is a hottake. Because micro missiles are ridiculous.

[storm acorn]

but micro missiles use up way too much ammo, and mobile turret does more damage

tactical scope is just useless, even with the mastery

[fierce cipher]

Mobile turret is slower and slows down your mobility

Mobile turret also doesn't have mini explosions and splash damage

[fierce cipher]

It's extremely good at cleaning up fodder, or finishing hurt enemies.

If you want to full auto snipe a shitton of imps (who are arguably the most dangerous enemies in the game on Nightmare difficulty) you can do so with the scope

Base fire is okay, Eternal has a worse base fire tbh

[wintry stump]

hey, so im just starting playing, and i was wondering. can you play arcade mode iwth later game weapons? i was on arcade mode for uac and saw i couldn't equipt the rifle. chainsaw etc

[fierce cipher]

I think Arcade mode has a specific amount of weapons that's set depending on the level.

If I remember right

[wintry stump]

ah okay

thanks

[flint lichen]

one of the most underrated tracks
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3EPeyOiicvU

also why does the ost cut so much stuff

https://youtu.be/0R17jGipMOE?t=130
first of all, 666k views on this lmao, second, they take out that part at 2:10 that goes so hard

[crimson summit]

i more or less prefer tac scope over micro missiles

[bold sun]

Hell nah, micro missiles are great, especially with the mastery

[bold sun]

Tac scope is useless imo

[bold sun]

I use mm in the middle of combos, they do great damage

[bold sun]

Arcade mode levels only let you use the weapons u would have unlocked so far in the game.

Example, foundry arcade mode level, only let's you use the shotgun, assault rifle, pistol, and the rocket launcher.

Unless you use mods

[thorn anchor]

Anyone on? I am a new player and i wanna play multiplayer

[deft patio]

Yes

[brave palm]

Yea we need 1 have 3

[deft patio]

@thorn anchor join us

[brave palm]

We’re Xbox btw

[thorn anchor]

Is there crospllay?

I am on PlayStation

Dm me

[brave palm]

Na there no cross play sadly

[deft patio]

Need 1 more

[calm gyro]

Hey guys, I can't run doom 2016 from my steam. I deleted it few months ago and decided to play it again, but when I click "play" it just crashes after 2-3 seconds after clicking

[crimson summit]

while i am aware of this i mainly use it to increase the har's firerate

by literally spamming the mod button

[fiery hare]

Delete it. Delete download cache,go into steamapps folder and delete the doom folder along with saves on the hard drive. Or you can always try and go into steam,go to your library settings and click on fix library if I'm not mistaken. That should do the trick mate

[calm gyro]

nvm everything is okay now

[fiery hare]

Cool good to know!!!!

[calm gyro]

I deleted dll file for online xp farm I downloaded for achievements

that's why it didn't run

[fiery hare]

Ah yeah those files can be a problem at times😅

[winter stream]

It's because the April update broke that .dll file

[elder meadow]

I made a zombies map in SnapMap using the wave-based preset, I’m going to upload the video of me getting over 100,000 on it!

[elder meadow]

https://youtu.be/m11iqtdgBug?si=wWZLmGPxZTjSQmi0

[fiery hare]

Great stuff mate

[fiery hare]

But quick question and I mean no offense,what is that plane engine working in the background?? Is that the console or PC? I mean the fans were really loud😅

[elder meadow]

Console. I also have my mic volume to the max.

[real ferry]

this looks really fun

[elder meadow]

Thanks

[real ferry]

np keep it up bro makes me want to get back into 2016

[elder meadow]

I’m going to continue working on the map.

[fiery hare]

Oh that explains it😅I mean seriously the fan looked like a plane about to take off😅

[fiery hare]

What are the best times for the multiplayer everyone?

[neat plinth]

usually around noon or afternoon. Just dont put your region on asia-pacific. No one plays on that region

[rancid pier]

Honestly imo doom eternal is a lot better then doom 2016, fight me

[fierce cipher]

They're so different that it can be hard to say what's better.

The combos and movement you can do in Eternal is more satisfying though.

But 2016 has an official Custom content tool called SnapMaps and Eternal doesn't have any custom content tools

If anything, Eternal and 2016 complete each other, and where Eternal falters, 2016 succeeds, and where 2016 succeeds is where Eternal can falter.

Both games feel a bit incomplete without each other.

[muted matrix]

I thought your name said drake for a second

[dawn burrow]

Doom 2016 fans, hello

I just bought the game, and I'm nearly done with Eternal (ik I should've played 2016 first but it is what it is)

Difficulty and game mechanic wise, what can I expect that's different from Eternal?

Like
Are the controls different? Are there different mechanics? How difficult is it compared to Eternal?

[elder meadow]

you don't get double jump right away, different grenades, guns are sorta different

thats about it

[elder meadow]

It's easier, and more unbalanced. Eternal is a sequel to 2016, so it was iterating on what 2016 introduced.

[dawn burrow]

Alrighty, thank you!
So if I played Eternal on ultra violence, should I increase the difficulty on 2016?

[elder meadow]

No. UV is fine for 2016. Nightmare is unbalanced and isn't a great experience; makes the early game very punishing only to become monotonous by the time you get to the fifth level or so.

[dawn burrow]

Noted 🤝

[neat plinth]

Although doom 2016 is the easier game

So it would not be as bad as doing doom enternal nightmare

[dawn burrow]

Got it! Thanks a lot!

[storm acorn]

and barons are huge threats

[storm acorn]

i just started a nightmare run (im gonna die to an imp)

[rocky patrol]

Hey can someone be my friend

[fiery hare]

😅

[fiery hare]

We're all your friends 😁

[peak meteor]

i disagree, nightmare 2016 is way more punishing that eternals due to the fact that since you dont have much in terms of survivability other than some runes, the only thing you can protect yourseld with is the guns and while the guns are op, eternal gives you wayy more options with the flame belch, ice grenade, dash, etc

[neat plinth]

Doom enternal likes to introduce harder enemies in earlier levels. They also do a lot of damage, more than 2016. Nightmare is way worse in enternal

Those options you talk about won’t help much if your getting one hit by every enemy

[hoary nova]

is this game dead when i play it theres like none ever on it

i play on playstation btw

[peak meteor]

yeah console mp is dead

[peak meteor]

im pretty sure that isnt true, 2016 demons do way more dmg than eternals

[peak meteor]

nope, they def do help, they help alot as if you do not take advantage of those options you are putting yourself at a disadvantage (dodging attacks, regaining armor) whereas in 2016 those options dont exist

hell even glory killing was more of a hinderance in 2016, as doing so would only grant you like 5 hp if you were over 100 or so health, and armor is bascially nonexistent

you have that glory kill for armor but its still not worth it as even while uprgaded only gives around 10 armor which is useless when a possessed does like 50 dmg

[storm acorn]

moral of the story: nightmare is unbalanced

[steel vessel]

💀

Literally why it's called "nightmare"

[fierce cipher]

Yeah I'm surprised someone is saying Eternal demons do more damage. 2016 imps and Barons and Cacodemon bites basically one shot you

Same for the 2016 pinky charges and bites and Lost souls

[fierce cipher]

Also you could get trapped and killed very easily right when the glory kill animation ends in 2016, meanwhile in Eternal, you usually could dash away after the glory kill animation ends and be safe

[fierce cipher]

Fun fact; even Hugo Martin, lead director himself thinks 2016 Nightmare is harder than Eternal's.

He says it on the Cultist Base stream with Josh.

[peak meteor]

ive never been killed by a cacodemon, but ive seen videos on how insane their bite is

how much dmg does it do exactly

[fierce cipher]

They'd sometimes sneak up from behind and lunge at me during Argent D'Nur for example

[fierce cipher]

Looked it up and it looks 2016 Nightmare Cacodemon bites do 200 damage.

Their ranged spews do 105.

Eternal Nightmare Cacodemon bites do 150, and their ranged attack do 70.

[peak meteor]

holy shit

[vivid sequoia]

Moreso console MP is dead for pubbing. If we got a big enough group together, we could manage private matches.

[storm acorn]

moral of the story: stay the fuck away from cacodemons

[peak meteor]

achievement hunters seething because of this

[fiery hare]

In my "area" it depends. During weekdays,around 6pm I can get full lobbies. On Weekends, Saturday and Sunday afternoons are where it's at👍

This on PC. On PS4 it's even harder

[vivid sequoia]

Yeah, I mean for PS4, since that’s what I generally play on. I know PC has some holdovers, but I don’t want to re-unlock everything again, heh.

Been trying to compile people for a group to make for PS4 lobbies

[fiery hare]

Hey I'm down for it!!! Just don't expect top notch gameplay from me😅but for fun and giggles and some good frags you can count me in mate!!

[frigid siren]

Anyone wanna play some Multiplayer with me? Its my frist time trying mp

[storm acorn]

yall whats the cyberdemon code name in doom 2016? dr. hayden mentions it during lazarus

[winter stream]

Vega refers to it as Specimen CD-587 after you touch the helix stone

[latent stream]

I did cause a glitch by firing a bfg round and pulling up the weapon wheel and watch the cyberdemon's health bar drop fast

[winter stream]

yeah, because for some reason the tendril attack rate is not affected by the slow motion.

[wispy hedge]

unrelated but I find it weird that there's 2 different Cyberdemons that from my knowledge are unrelated from the mainline Doom series

There's the original Cyberdemon, which returns in Doom 2, Doom 64, and then eventually in Doom Eternal under the name "Tyrant"

I assume that's the same species, but then there's the Cyberdemon from 2016 which is similar but also different (and more powerful) at the same time

[umbral prawn]

Hi

Tugoma balls doomguy