doom-2016

[abstract sage]

default keybinds are good; standard WASD-type thing

maybe change melee and grenades

[tepid jolt]

I’m pretty sure Steam awards are for new games, not 7 year old titles that are still great

[abstract sage]

Doom 2016 is available in the Labor of Love category as a nominee

This is specifically why I brought it up

And, given the fact that there's still a relatively active and numerous playerbase, it's worth a shot

[olive wren]

Nahh, i mean like... the weapon, cuz idk about the keybinds. The default one

[winter stream]

It makes no sense to me why it was nominated for labor of love. The developers haven't given this game any attention for the last 4 or 5 years. All they've done is not shut down the snapmap and mp servers gooood job

Its been left to mod tool makers and modders to make any semblance of a content update for the game since then

[weary flame]

W game

[abstract sage]

Mp still works and this might give the game some attention

And the game is still played by lots of people

[winter stream]

Labor of love award is specifically for older games that have been continuously supported by the developers with updates to this very day

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/827412960665403432/1177649262595686461/Screenshot_20231124_083720_Steam.jpg?ex=65734657&is=6560d157&hm=a31606cd12e55b997a873b3f525e1dd7de388e666e96940d737617bae0579e7a&

[abstract sage]

Yeah, I know. It's a fair point. Still, wouldn't it be ironic to see it win?

[junior stratus]

Hey everyone, I managed to do a cool interview with Garrett Young(General Manager on DOOM 2016) for anyone thats interested
https://youtu.be/Qok_8fknZBo

[wispy hedge]

Doom Eternal, take it or leave it

I absolutely have a skill issue when it comes to Eternal, but it was more enjoyable than 2016

2016 imo was kinda boring and too easy even on UV

[tepid jolt]

Doom 2016 is much more interesting imo if you ignore runes and weapon mastery. It becomes a proper challenge. After my first playthrough like this, I started playing Eternal this way too and playing this way also made it more fun too

[smoky valve]

well did you play de first?

[wispy hedge]

no

I played 2016 first then Eternal like a normal person

[lost forum]

yellow tape around his body

[grim gyro]

Going from eternal to 2016 was a wild change of pace

I wish there was a map creator mode in eternal

[magic idol]

i wonder if theres any ultrakill snapmaps

[winter stream]

I made a parry mechanic lol

In #videos

[magic idol]

is the map public?

[winter stream]

yeah, it's not fully finished but it's functional. RF8RW3KJ

[magic idol]

ooh okay

ill check it out later! :D

[winter stream]

Cool

It was kinda a collab project, I mostly designed the logic while the other designed the level itself

[magic idol]

oohhh

[tepid jolt]

Yeah a Snapmap for Eternal would’ve been fantastic.

[lament girder]

eternal takes place in mostly outdoors with less repeating geometry. wouldn't have worked.

actual mod tools for the next game would be best. people already had to mod snapmap to make it not trash, and it would be for the best if that was circumvented altogether lmao.

[rotund hatch]

someone can help pls

[alpine verge]

WASD is so overrated, try using ctrl, alt, f4, delete combo

[unborn delta]

just go the ultimate doom builder route and use ESDF

[hasty quail]

Use JIKL

[alpine verge]

what about running doom on some rat neurons

[hasty quail]

They will fry

[unborn delta]

okay left handed mf

[winter stream]

I mean, with the exception of a few setpieces, all of snapmaps' modules are not ported rooms from the campaign, they were made exclusively for snapmap, just with the theming of the Industrial, hell, and lab-themed sections. If the module system were to have been used again, I could see ruined earth buildings, phobos UAC facility, Sentinel, Urdak, and hell architecture being used as the themes to borrow from.

While official mod tools would be great, I've seen a few things that would suggest that they have no intentions to make modern idStudio publicly accessible for modders.
As for needing to "mod snapmap to make it not trash", every innovation to the editor thanks to snaphak, is only circumventing the limitations imposed by the editor's UI, not modifying the game's code or assets. So it's really just a matter of some additional dev time put into the GUI alone to bring it to the same level as it is currently thanks to mod tools.

[elder meadow]

Is anybody on switch

[lament girder]

it would still all be hallways with the occasional large room and one or two areas pulled from single player with some minor tweaks connected by doorways. and with how erratic demon speed and behavior is with the default navpathing, imagine how that would translate to custom geometry

also snaphak introduced enemies and bosses not available in vanilla snapmap along with added functionalities like replacing models entirely. if that's not asset modifying then I don't know what definition that falls under.

lastly even if their reasoning for idstudio employing 3rd party software rendering it unfit for public distribution were legitimate and not an excuse, it still shouldn't keep them from putting out something in its place.
just take snapmap's foundation, build upon it and make it so we can add fucking doors manually instead of depending on prefabs on a grid- or worse yet, having to manually put blocking volumes together by eyeball just to make a square room with minimal geometric detail that would take all of 20 seconds in gzdoombuilder.

[gloomy gulch]

I got weird problem
I couldn't find matches for the last week but today I found alot but it kicks me out of the lobby
It keep saying connecting even though that there is more than 6 players
When it kicks me back to the main menu it doesn't give me a error msg or anything
I tried to change the region alot and still same problem
Anyone faced it before ?
Or even have a solution?

[elder meadow]

The platinum for this is very hard

[ancient comet]

my god this OST is still so good

[elder meadow]

Tru that

[jaunty jetty]

I've been searching for an hour and nobody is on snapmap 😦

Sucks to suck

[hasty quail]

Technically right handed

[spring condor]

Anyone willing to play multiplayer to help me get the platinum trophy?

[waxen wadi]

Do u guys play doom eternal multiplayer

[winter stream]

"it would still all be hallways with the occasional large room and one or two areas pulled from single player with some minor tweaks connected by doorways."
Where is that coming from, since 2016 snapmap isn't like that. I don't see why there wouldn't be several dozen different types of arenas and setpieces across the various themes made exclusively for its SnapMap, just like in 2016.

"also snaphak introduced enemies and bosses not available in vanilla snapmap along with added functionalities like replacing models entirely. if that's not asset modifying then I don't know what definition that falls under."
SnapHak is just a tool that lets you manually edit the text in a map's save file. Every single thing that is made possible thanks to SnapHak is just telling the map to utilize assets that already exist in the game's files that the developers didn't put in the menus as an option, and using object properties that the game's engine already makes available to them, but weren't added as an options in the editor's menus.
For example, with model swapping, every single object in the game has a property that determines what model for it to use. Whether or not they make a menu that selects which one to use, is a different story. Some stuff even does have an ingame menu to select which model to use, but just limited to a specific list of models. All that is being done with SnapHak is just manually typing in the model asset name rather than have a menu fill it in for you. The model assets are not being touched when you get a specific object in a specific map to call upon a different one to use for its appearance.
The summoner was already ported to snapmap's assets, and all that snaphak does is just let you type in that asset's name in the place where the menu selection writes to it. Not sure where you heard about it adding new bosses. Cyberdemon, Hell Guards, and Mastermind were not fully ported over to snapmap's assets, and so it can't be added with snaphak alone.

If snaphak was actually modding assets, then maps made with it wouldn't work on anyone else's end without downloading those modified assets, but they do work. Even on consoles

[winter stream]

All I'm getting from this is that Eternal shouldn't have snapmap, but instead have an improved snapmap? I think when people say they wanted eternal to have snapmap, they're not saying it shouldn't have any innovations to come with it, that's just what would be expected from a sequel.

Why would you need to eyeball it for placing blocking volumes when there's grid snap that makes placement and alignment simple?

[lament girder]

1. because snapmap is like that. there's a good handful of rooms lifted wholesale from the base campaign with a couple touchups and a larger handful of completely original ones that are, frankly, mediocre. there isn't a lot to build around using just the bland-ass room-hallway-room format, which is why the more ambitious maps employ block volumes. as for grid snapping, that only works for snapping volumes to the floor and not against one another.
2. good lecture on snaphak, I stand corrected. doesn't make vanilla snapmap any less anemic, though.
3. in a perfect world, eternal would've shipped with a map creation tool on PC to allow the user to make mods and maps at their whim instead of depending on a cobbled-up idstudio offshoot addon built with console memory, logic and geometry limits in mind (which would've been enforced AND more restrictive for Eternal, no doubt). unfortunately, we live in the worst possible timeline where one game has an okay campaign, shit multiplayer and a lackluster map '''''''creation tool''''''', and its sequel has an excellent campaign, shit multiplayer and nothing else.

[winter stream]

I mean, I'm no fan of modules myself, mainly because I typically don't make doom-themed maps. But you made it sound like there were very few to work with beyond the modular hallways, turns, and intersections. As for the quality of the arenas, I have no opinion either way, other than that there are some oversights such as certain modules that enemies have occasionally clipped through the floor of, and some hell modules where there's holes in the geometry that the skybox is visible where it shouldn't.

Grid snap is along x,y,and (toggled by a certain setting) z, with configurable grid size. I'm not referring to the "Snap to floor" function.

And yeah, snapmap without snaphak, never going back lol, even if there was still plenty of untapped potential it had for custom game modes. But along with a lack of menu options they could have added, there's even some limitations that literally took more effort for the developers to impose than not to.

[boreal quartz]

I finally got doom 2016 on my pc and I have to say its much better than playing it on Xbox

The game feels different even though I already played most of it (I never finished the game cause I suck at it) on Xbox the huge difference to me is probably that it feels easier on pc since I get to aim with my whole arm instead of my thumb meaning I don’t die as much (I still die a lot not from demons but blowing myself up with the rocket launcher and somehow accidentally jumping off cliffs and ledges cause I’m an idiot).

Also I already played Doom Eternal (I’m actually decent at eternal and I have much better stats on it than 2016) and it’s hard getting used to which number key is which weapon (There have been times where I have almost been slaughtered cause I accidentally switched to the pistol)

So far I’m on kadingir sanctum btw

[untold olive]

2016 is a lot easier than eternal

[untold olive]

You seem to be a lot more comfortable on keyboard so that's why it feels different

[boreal quartz]

Yeah probably

[dense kettle]

I play on xbox cus i dont have a pc

[boreal quartz]

Better than playing on switch I own the switch version and I have died so much cause of joycon drift

I now own 3 copies of doom 2016

All for different platforms

[dense kettle]

Switch games should not have first person shooters

It just sounds like pure pain

[boreal quartz]

Yeah they run terribly

Also the Xbox version of Doom 2016 was my first ever doom game which I first played a little over a year ago

I’m technically a new doom fan

[boreal quartz]

It is much easier when you have more mods and runes but I’m too stupid to find any secrets or praetor suit tokens and sometimes they’re right infront of me and I don’t even see them funny thing is on Xbox I never found the second slayer testament and now on pc I just now figured out where it was

There’s honestly almost an infinite amount of reasons why I sucked at 2016

I’m even worse at the classic games somehow

Though I have been starting to improve

I don’t like the small pinky box room in Lazarus labs

On Xbox it was a nightmare

Also what is that weird effect on certain demons like the Mancubus whenever you shoot it you can see a weird force field effect same for when you shoot the armored plating part of the pinky

[winter stream]

Damage reduction

[boreal quartz]

ok

[elder meadow]

Plz anyone on switch

[ionic kestrel]

Hello, is there anyone who wants to play Doom online?

I'm just starting out and the queues for online games are eternal.

[spring condor]

I'm down but you need 4 people for a match to start

[elder meadow]

ill join too

[deft patio]

What platform?

[lean knoll]

👋

I'm still searching french players

Ping me

[surreal kite]

Does anybody even play doom 2016's multiplayer on Xbox anymore?

I kinda wanna have my (albeit terrible) attempt at making V1 from Ultrakill in the normal multiplayer, and not just snapmap

[lean socket]

Um i play it on 2016 but i dont have gamepass multiplater

multiplayer*

[surreal kite]

Oof no Live 😭

[coarse quail]

wanna hear a rhyme

[surreal kite]

Hell yeah I do

[coarse quail]

roses are red
people used to raid tombs
people like other games
but my favorite is doom

[elder meadow]

PC

[lucid raven]

why isn’t doom 2016 on gamepass for pc?

[winter stream]

games cycle in and out of it. Doom 2016 has been on gamepass a couple times

[winter stream]

Speaking of manually adding doors, I just found a way to make doors freely placeable without needing snaphak yourself to pick it up. Just another asset that can be copied from one map to another

[stark finch]

Hello, i am a french player, what do you want ?

[unborn delta]

https://tenor.com/view/fire-writing-gif-24533171

[soft anvil]

Doom 2016 hit diff

[plain merlin]

Real

[lean knoll]

@stark finch cool. I just want to test all multi modes. You can send me a pm if you want to play some games. It will be easier to speak french. Cya ! ✌️

[lucid raven]

but bethesda is owned by microsoft so wouldn’t it be on gamepass??

[winter stream]

it seems to be on xbox

but not PC gamepass

[lucid raven]

that’s stupid

[median karma]

would the DOOM 2016 engine ever be licensed under the GNU GPL just like the games before it?

[winter stream]

I'm doubtful of it

[candid hornet]

i doubt it

but i would like to see it too

[cyan temple]

I once played the entirety of this game without graphics or lighting

Pretty recently actually

I had played a bit off it before so I could access the full campaign even if it was not fully installed

It was weird ngl

[vague onyx]

I have some kind of problem With Doom 2016 not saving any data when i reopen it like i played the campaign for 6 hours and when i restarted my game my save file was gone and my setthings were also resetted please help! dm me on If anybody knows how to fix this issue.

[winter stream]

Which platform

[ionic cove]

Roses are red
Daisy is too
You will regret
When I meet you

https://tenor.com/view/bunny-cuddle-snuggle-snuggles-cuddles-gif-17747336

Imagine if Daisy was that big

[wispy hedge]

I actually wonder how big Daisy is considering the size of Doom 1 E3’s end graphic for the spike, and Romero’s head on the spike from Doom 2

[elder meadow]

plot twist daisy is a MASSIVE BEAST

[worthy juniper]

Does anyone still play DOOM 2016 multiplayer? I'm hoping to get the final trophies I need for the platinum

[tepid jolt]

Nonzero people, but very few and infrequently

[worthy juniper]

Makes sense

[trail snow]

hey i'm doing that too

i am going insane waiting in these dead lobbies

there are currently 2 people in this particular lobby, which leads me to believe that these are the only 2 people on multiplayer across the entire game

[lucid raven]

basically nobody plays it lol

[bold sun]

Uac master level by elizabethany
(Just wanted to showcase their mod)
https://youtu.be/jGmxDd3VyLE?si=PmH4Eu-O5WMvWeVJ

[elder meadow]

I have a question about the lore? Is the doom slayer actually catholic?

[vague onyx]

Steam

[bold sun]

Resource operation master level by elizabethany. (another showcase of their mod) https://youtu.be/Qik7J1PpDiA

[hot gazelle]

Wsp

[snow heron]

Whether he’s religious or not has never been stated or touched on so no he isn’t

[plush sky]

Я гей

[jagged summit]

Same with mine, if you mean it doesn't save your progress at the checkpoints if you reboot. I just thought that was a thing though. Eternal saves at each checkpoint though.

[winter stream]

It's supposed to save your progress at checkpoints

[jagged summit]

Sure but it only let's you spawn back to those checkpoints if you die. If you exit from the game and then reload it it doesn't restore my previous state, I have to start the level again from the beginning.

[winter stream]

Oh, well, I think it still saves collectibles or something because checkpoints still update the save file

[jagged summit]

Yeah, I've still got those. Not all of them mind you.

[trail snow]

hey is anybody down to make a group to do the multiplayer achievements? i am desperate

[vague onyx]

Ok so do you know to fix it?

Sad part is i just beat the Cyber demon boss for the first time and the game Made me go to the menu screen outomatically and i lost all of my progress

[deft patio]

@trail snow is this on xbox yh?

[vague onyx]

Every time i close the game all of my game data is like deleted or smth cuz it doesnt save my game progress doesnt save my Setthings Nothing

[trail snow]

no, it's on steam

idk if crossplay is a thing or not

[untold olive]

It's not

[deft patio]

Shame :/

[hollow night]

[jagged summit]

Same.

[bold sun]

Another master level mod.https://youtu.be/CHb34wBsHl0

[peak meteor]

for a while i was actually able to play multiplayer with others

i disconnected and now it seems dead again

[rocky canopy]

i love 2016, it would be my favorite game if only it just had more movement

atleast a dash ability would be enough to make the movement not feel as sluggish, moving from point A to point B, in and out of combat is just slow with the slayers base speed, especially with the lack of any platforming hurdles (i.e, doom eternals bounce pads [which are in the game but only in some areas], monkey bars, wallclimbing) sure theres bhopping but i feel that still doesnt compensate for the lack of any other mobility options imo

great game though
maybe theres a mod that adds a dash i need to look into

[winter stream]

there is one

[jagged summit]

Doom 2016's teaching you to walk so you can learn to run in Eternal.

[opal hollow]

Like litteraly, you can walk and crouch in 2016
None exist in Eternal

[rocky canopy]

i started playing eternal before 2016 since i knew id like eternal more

i dont really care much about the story anyway

[rocky canopy]

you cant walk in eternal?
man i must be using a mod that enables wasd

[jagged summit]

You can, but why when you can run, dash and vault?

[jagged summit]

Yeah, it's tricky if you play the newed game first, since it's superior in that sense. It's like playing Sonic 2, 3 & Knuckles first and then going and playing Sonic 1 and realising you can't do the super spin thingy.

[rocky canopy]

i mean even then, if i happened to play 2016 first, my optinion that the movement seems sluggish wouldnt really change, because i already knew from the start that 2016 didnt have any sort of dash ability like eternal

[opal hollow]

I don't think so

[rocky canopy]

also i like that 2016 actually had the bfgs default bind not being a number key, ive had a couple of times in eternal where i wanted to pull out my chaingun, accidently pulled out my bfg and wasted a shot

now i remember that i can just change my bfg bind so its out of the way

[opal hollow]

For keyboard I must say, muscle memory do feats sometimes, 'cause I pretty know what key leads to what guns, but it's often the [2] key that gets in the way, so I pretty much always use the shotgun...

Damn I was disapointed in Eternal that there was no pistol

Or at least, something that does not recquire ammo

[frigid warren]

@trail snow Check EU servers around noon if you're in the US. Switch to US around 6-8 CST (keep switching locales until you find people) Also, "team play" yields better results. You're forced to play all the game types, but hey. Once I started doing this, I found decently filled lobbies.

[jagged summit]

But I mean ammo was pretty much a free commodity as long as there was fodder to farm it from with the chainsaw.

[bold sun]

There's a mod that adds dashes

[silk grail]

I've been thinking about writing an essay about 2016's (and maybe Eternal's) soundtrack and how it works, the work put into it, and Mick Gordon

[jagged summit]

I prefer the classic soundtrack personally. The 2016/Eternal OST was so-so.

[silk grail]

Yeah i could see that. Ive played all of the games and i think my favorite soundtrack is 2016's

Doom 2 is a close second

[jagged summit]

I enjoyed the more mellow stuff from 2016/Eternal.

[silk grail]

Im partial to super heavy, loud, fast stuff so Rip and Tear and all that jazz is right up my alley

[jagged summit]

The noisier stuff is okay while clearning a huge arena, however I can't listen to that sort of stuff casually, like while I'm commuting etc, it's just too head-jarring.

[silk grail]

Ah i do that pretty often

i'll put it on while writing or walking through campus

but heavy metal and rock is something I've always enjoyed

[fathom dove]

Hiii..I'm looking for people to boost doom 2016 multiplayer PS4 :0

[rocky canopy]

eternal has a pistol, you just need to enable it in the console

but i mean theres a good reason why eternal doesnt have a pistol in the base game, its because there arent any uses for one
sure if you run out of ammo you can use it, but eternal is entirely about ammo management, if you run out of ammo, thats on you
theres always fodder to chainsaw and chainsaw fuel everywhere

[opal hollow]

True

[wraith tangle]

the way it works is that the mixing is too low so I don't hear it at all

except in repetitive memes

[elder meadow]

i finished the UAC misison on ultra nightmare, now if i actually go and try to do the whole game on the same difficulty will it send me back to the very first level if i die?

[bold sun]

Yes.

[elder meadow]

oh man

not gonna tempt fate then xD, i died a lot in the gore nest battle in resource operations on nightmare

[wraith tangle]

with some platforming you can skip it

[wispy hedge]

That’s what Ultra-Nightmare is

It’s the same as nightmare, but you only have 1 life

Think of it as hardcore mode for Minecraft if you’ve played that difficulty

[elder meadow]

Massive respect for mfs who beat 2016 on un, the platforming kills you instantly and you cant even customizw your keybinds(atleast on controller)

[wraith tangle]

least xbox has built in mapping but it only goes so far

[rocky canopy]

a little over 10 hours into 2016, gotta say, its grown on me, though kinda sad its taken this long, 2016 just seems to have a fairly slow start compared to just about any other doom game (except doom 3) and youre stuck with some basic weapons and basic enemies for a while

but now that i have the full arsenal and the game ramps up the enemy count and gives stronger enemies more often, it finally feels really enjoyable

[peak meteor]

i suck ass at platforming

[pliant dove]

honestly i like the early game more than the end game of 2016

difficulty drops off around kadingir even if the game throws bigger enemies at you

[bold sun]

Kadingir sanctum proly my favourite level

[bold sun]

https://youtu.be/je-pwr-RXtw

prolly the best master level, in terms of difficulty and fun (also this is a mod by elizabethany.)

[desert otter]

hi i search people to get the tropie in ps4 of win 1 parti in multiplayer

[echo wraith]

Finished replaying the game, the hell guards are easier than I remember.

[peak meteor]

they were easier for me on pc than console

[potent kestrel]

I dont have all guna

Guns

Should I start again?

[boreal quartz]

I dislike the pistol as I find it useless

[untold olive]

I've only seen speedrunners use it but only against fodder demons during the first few missions

[jolly shoal]

i need help

with 2016

it wont run on steam

🥺

[feral plume]

G

[shy sun]

Yoo

[left basin]

[agile lily]

Does doom 2016 have to do anything with doom remake 4?

[echo wraith]

Upgrade your graphics card and drivers, that’s usually the problem with pc games that don’t run

[echo wraith]

DOOM 4 was originally supposed to exist but was remade into the DOOM we know today

[tiny ferry]

anyone trying to play multiplayer?

[grave flint]

No.

[tiny ferry]

[kind shore]

What's the fastest anyone's beaten the Hell Guards?

Because I managed to do it in around 5 minutes and 30 seconds

[spice forum]

[peak meteor]

i forgor

[tulip wadi]

Yooo anyone wanna hop on multiplayer?2016

[lethal bear]

Just finished the campaign, onto Eternal which I've never played through before

[smoky valve]

have fun

[rustic ice]

Does anyone play multiplayer and more

[winter stream]

I mainly use snapmap

[tulip wadi]

Yeah, I play snapmap and multiplayer.

[elder meadow]

[storm finch]

Have any of all beat 2016 on ultra nightmare

[compact jacinth]

Eternal better

[peak lily]

I can't get lobby's but yea

Just got doom 2016

[storm finch]

what kind of snapmaps you guys be making

[kind shore]

Ayo I just beat the Mastermind in like 3 minutes

p gud I think

[polar lake]

ultra nightmare beckons me yet again

[winged flicker]

I was stuck on the boss that summons giant walls of stone to box you in for so long. Finally after years tried again, continued to finish the game.

Only on hurt me plenty but whatever

Going for 100% all the levels to try nightmare

ain't gonna try ultra nightmare

[polar lake]

haha yeah those walls can be annoying

[winged flicker]

I kept being a dumb-ass and instinctively double jumping immediately with his 3 vertical slice things

so I kept jumping into the second one

finally learned to time my jump better

[polar lake]

oof yeah them blades are rough

lost many a UN runs to those

[winged flicker]

I did get a top of the line IPS monitor where now doom fps cap is the limiting part

[polar lake]

nice! i bought my computer specifically so i could play doom on pc lol

only had my switch to play it on previously

god Nightmare difficulty on switch was a pita

[winged flicker]

I haven't tried it bot even on lowest difficulty it seems a giant pain

30fps cap with drops and tiny range analog sticks? yikes

[polar lake]

i honestly don't remember it being laggy, and I've got a release day switch, but yeah the analog sticks made it veeeeery difficult. there were times that I had to switch to motion aiming to be able to line things up properly

[winged flicker]

I was able to play FPS with a controller in the past, but getting used to MKB + high refresh rate ruined that for me

[scenic current]

hello

[hoary hound]

hi :]

[fierce rain]

Does anyone play doom online

[echo wraith]

Rarely

[fierce rain]

All servers are completly empty :(

[echo wraith]

I usually play the campaign 99% of the time

[fierce rain]

Yeah me too or the online practice mode

[echo wraith]

DOOM Eternal actually helps a lot with 2016

It makes eternal look hard

[fierce rain]

Yeah going from the retro doom games to the 2016

2016 seems very easy

Mostly since every enemy gives you health

[bronze kernel]

if anyones playing battlemode, they're probably playing doom eternal instead lol

[bronze kernel]

oh

[bronze kernel]

maybe you'll be more likely to find someone on battlemode on nintendo switch c:

yeah i was partially joking

its sad

i have every single doom game on both steam and switch

if you want, i can 1v1 you. i've never really played much but yeah

im kinda only a classic doom player but i've been trying out eternal and 2016

[deep galleon]

Helo

[storm finch]

hi

[jagged summit]

Yeah, I can only imagine how easy 2016 must be for those that use the dash mod.

I play using the PS4 so I've never use the mod personally, but it's just as Hugo said in my case, they build a game that would make me not want to play 2016 anymore and it's been a long time since I've touched it after the release of Eternal.

[elder meadow]

After reading the majority of this chat in hopes of trying to find others to enjoy multiplayer lobbies again on Xbox I’ve concluded that majority who didn’t like it have one thing in common…. Skill issue 🤌🏻

[jagged summit]

I enjoyed 2016 multiplayer.

[elder meadow]

But you're on PS4

[high cargo]

Game

[bold sun]

https://youtu.be/I7HFrkdxS5U?si=Irw8mZVDdQHfFKOZ

[short spindle]

There's no one in Doom 2016 multiplayer 😭

[untold olive]

Yeah nobody plays it

[storm finch]

fr

[untold olive]

You might be able to stumble upon a few achievement hunters though

[storm finch]

I usually just play snapmap

[jagged summit]

Ahhh Snapmap.

[short spindle]

Guys, want to play?

It I'll be fun

[jagged summit]

Play what?

[short spindle]

Doom

[jagged summit]

Team Death match?

[short spindle]

Yeah

[jagged summit]

Honestly I don't even have it installed at the moment.

[short spindle]

I reinstalled Yesterday to remember good times

But no ones play it

[faint monolith]

DUDE DOOM 2016 HAS GYRO CONTROL IN STEAM DECK HANDHELD

[untold olive]

ok

[short spindle]

Someone to play team deadmatch?

[leaden valve]

I like more 2016s brutality than eternals

[leaden valve]

it runs well on the steam deck yes

eternal is ironically better optimized tho

[leaden valve]

yeah sadly

[faint monolith]

https://tenor.com/view/aloarmy-alo-daniell-ok-donald-trump-gif-25764458

[random axle]

ive been playing and found quite a lot of people

find a almost full match in 5 to 10 seconds

[main geode]

how do I get the game to stop feeling like it's in slow motion

[untold stirrup]

Wym slow motion?

As in the gameplay feels slow?

[main geode]

I've played on console before, everything is so much slower in terms of animation speed.

[untold stirrup]

Perhaps it may be an fps issue?

[main geode]

Should the game be running at 30 FPS on an AMD Ryzen 7 5000 series?

[untold stirrup]

Uhhh... no

30 fps is... very low

So that's why everything is slow on your end...

[main geode]

I even have it set to the lowest graphics

How in Hell is it so slow-

[untold stirrup]

Try turning the processor to vulkan

It's better for low-end devices

[main geode]

Gotcha.

[untold stirrup]

Also, shadows take a suprisingly large amount of processing to render

This is PC, right?

[main geode]

ASUS Vivobook, I can't afford a full PC.

[untold stirrup]

In that case, you can access the game console with the "~" key

[main geode]

Windows 11, 12gb of ram

[untold stirrup]

There's a command for getting rid of shadows, if you don't mind playing without them

You should also turn off v-sync, as all that does it limit the hertz rate

You'll get some light screen-tearing but it's nothing too drastic, I certainly didn't notice anything on my bootcamped Macbook

[leaden valve]

how

[untold stirrup]

Which definitely has worse specs than yours

And I was able to hit 100+ FPS

[main geode]

THE ENGINE JUST FUCKIN CRASHED
WHAT IN AN IMPS ASSHOLE IS HAPPENING-

[untold stirrup]

Oh no

[main geode]

Fuck it I'm gonna verify the files

[main geode]

what do you mean oh no

has this kind of thing happened before

[random axle]

idk im EU if that matters

[untold stirrup]

No, I was just reacting

Hasn't happened to me ever

[main geode]

Alright. It's loaded.

[untold stirrup]

Aspect ratio can also affect FPS, as well as small things like decals and anti-aliasing btw

[main geode]

well nevermind the bloody bastard just pissed itself because of a windows pop up to allow networking.

[untold stirrup]

Oof

[main geode]

Ok yeah it's much better
Thanks, Coffeeguy

[untold stirrup]

No problem 👍

[stone quartz]

whats the MP population like these days?

[elder meadow]

Depends on the system you’re on. I’m trying to find people on Xbox.

[winter stream]

#videos message This is stuff that I'm working on

[storm finch]

damn that's really cool. I currently got my own snapmap campaign in the making, it's got some modded content and also the dash ability from eternal

[winter stream]

that's cool

[storm finch]

How do you implement all of that stuff in snaphak?

[winter stream]

different methods for different things

some more complicated to explain than others

[lapis chasm]

Sadly I don't own this game

[stone quartz]

PC in OCE (usually a tall order to get a lobby)

[wooden knot]

any1 tryna play? pc NA

[wispy kernel]

Doom works perfectly fine for me, idk why people say it doesnt work good

[elder meadow]

Online is a wasteland on PS5

Anyone willing to help me get the online trophy? I only need 1 win lol

[elder meadow]

No one?

[elder meadow]

good luck man. Wish we could get a cross platform update.

[elder meadow]

I can't find a single person to help me lol Just one private match to get the trophy and it's done

[elder meadow]

I'm on xbox sorry bud

It's alright 😦

I guess I'm Doomed

[elder meadow]

I am on Xbox and currently searching for a multiplayer game if anyone would like to join or attempt at searching too lol

[tropic quest]

I’d be willing to help! I want the platinum

[elder meadow]

I found out that private matches don't count! But I managed to find some people playing online and I got the trophy.

[tropic quest]

That’s good to hear! There is hope then

[elder meadow]

Yeah but it was frustrating. I had to win legitimately since they were random people lol

[orchid sphinx]

Anyone willing to help with multiplayer trophies?

[nova echo]

Xbox or PlayStation???

[orchid sphinx]

Ps

I just cant get a win cause im playing with 200 ping

I have to play on Na servers when im in Australia

[wraith tangle]

if you keep going north you'll end up in in Australia

[jagged summit]

I honestly didn't know that the 2016 multiplayer server was still online. I had to cancel my PlayStation Plus for my own social wellbeing.

[nova echo]

I’m always looking for people to play 2016 with, lmk if you ever want to play

[elder meadow]

Doom 2016 is like one of those games you would've been scared to death playing as a kid. but later come to appreciate it, when you give it a second playthrough as a teen or adult.

Gen Alpha grew up with the best of doom

[winter stream]

what

[jagged summit]

I was scared of classic Doom as a kid but more so of Heretic.

[echo wraith]

Nice pun

[untold olive]

Make a group post and start a party

That's the most efficient way since most ppl here don't play and aren't guaranteed to be on Xbox

[nova echo]

I’m on Xbox too, shall we form an alliance lol

[elder meadow]

I added ya back on here

[elder meadow]

Tried that to no avail and the one club on Xbox that has a discord code is no longer active.

[wispy kernel]

Love doom 2016. Started playing doom 2016 and it is really good.

[crimson summit]

worst enemy in ultra nightmare runs: platforming

[smoky valve]

tell me about it

[ancient comet]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yc9ji1SiGB4&ab_channel=elizabethany if these would be in the game, sweet jesus

would make it more brutal than how it already is

that kick to the chest though holy sh
it should have been in

i've always thought doom eternal slayer in comparison to the doom 2016 slayer were wayy different just based on the glory kills

in doom 2016 they are raw and fucking brutal as fuck
in eternal they felt way more, idk pulled back?
like the slayer stepped on brakes
instead, there they are more technical and thought of

and there were wayy less of them
in 2016 it felt like no matter the angle i nearly always got a different glory kill, especially because of the wall glory kills as well

[jagged summit]

Why? Just asking because I don't think my system's ever experienced anything more than Ultra Violence difficulty.

[elder meadow]

https://tenor.com/view/doom-doomguy-helmet-animation-gif-18175357

I'm going to play doom for the thousandth time

[smoky valve]

2016 felt more brutal and straight to the point while maximizing pain
eternal was stylish and made gks feel rewarding, even if they're not as brutal

but eternal still had some pretty kickass kills, like prowler gks

[fervent bone]

do you get like a skin for playing doom 2016

or somethin

[wispy kernel]

No

[fervent bone]

doom 2016's environment's are a lot more brutal

[wispy kernel]

I don't think so

[fervent bone]

cause there was like a trumpet skin in the starter menu or somethin for the revenant

[fervent bone]

while doom eternal feels like it is a platforming game sacrificing environment for gameplay

[crimson summit]

you instantly die if you fall

thats literally the only reason why

this does count as a death in ultra nightmare

so it instantly ends the run

[sacred linden]

platforming game and arena shooter*

[maiden urchin]

you guys say that when Doom 2 had a lot of pseudo platforming as a result of very experimental level design

[elder meadow]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b2Hx8RGxiPI

is it possible to translate this level into doom2016 engine

would need a custom bfg too

big thx to doom 2016 producer, great value for price

[winter stream]

the engine doesn't allow for anywhere close to that many ai spawned at once. And even if it did, you'd be running at like 1fps

[elder meadow]

not even with highest end rig ?

i dont believe that sry

lowest setting and lowest resolution and highest end rig not doable ?

consumer rig*

theres optimization stuff nowadays, i think u can do it np

maybe use nvidia now or whatever its called, that game streaming service, but u would need the admin to up the farm on it

render farm - > add few libs to run this > run gg

nvidia farm big

[winter stream]

It's the ai behavior and nav that would most likely be what takes up most of the performance. Unless you also dumbed down the AI to classic doom's

[sacred linden]

u would need a NASA supercomputer to run doom 2016 nuts for 15 fps

[untold olive]

It's the ai limit

Even If you manage to get on the lowest settings and resolution there will be an ai limit

[elder meadow]

lol

okaaay

[elder meadow]

i didnt now know this, okay

[smoky valve]

honestly, the movement system is so apeshit I love it

[elder meadow]

https://tenor.com/view/alixx-attention-seeker-attention-seeking-attention-please-bernie-gif-25204169

People on Xbox, lets get a lobby together.

[hybrid relic]

does the multiplayer still works

[elder meadow]

As far as I know

[flat warren]

How much would someone give me if I got doom 2016 to run on my school laptop

[unborn delta]

i ran doom 2016 on my laptop with i3-10110u and integrated

it ran fine at low 720p

[nova echo]

Ill be on in a bit

[fervent bone]

same

[elder meadow]

does d2016 support gamepads ?

[crimson summit]

what

like a controller????

[elder meadow]

yeah

[crimson summit]

the obvious ones are xbox controllers and playstation controllers

yeah it works with controllers

[hybrid hound]

[nova echo]

@elder meadow wanna play 2016???

[elder meadow]

Binging monarch

[nova echo]

Ohhh, gotta lmk how it is

[sacred linden]

is there any use for the Gatling Rotator mod

[ancient comet]

It deals more damage i think

[elder meadow]

Fuego

[crimson summit]

does more damage when mastered

from what i can tell about 2x damage at full speed

[echo wraith]

Tip for hell guards phase 2: play hopscotch with the gauss cannon siege mode weapon mod

[elder meadow]

i just started the last level does anyone have tips

that may be useful

[winged flicker]

finished all the levels on ultra violence

I can finally scrap Doom from my backlog

onto the next game

[jagged summit]

If you're not going to 100% it on Ultra Nightmare, then the next game should be Doom Eternal.

[gilded obsidian]

bro i got the instant load for the shotgun explosive shot, but it still needs to reload. ??? why

fix this broken game

[winter stream]

there is no "instant" load

it still has the delay of switching to the launcher

[jaunty cape]

Hey guys, just wondering if any of yall would like to boost xp in DOOM 2016 in XBOX some in these days if anyone could help me get this achievement 🥺

[lament girder]

i feel like both games had an equal amount of showy and concise GKs. like a big handful of 2016's are just a punch to the face and eternal's are a stab or punch to an already downed enemy

that being said 2016's berserk kills feel on par with eternal's normal GKs in regards to brutality, while eternal's berserk is just flatout disappointing.

also 2016 had some of the lamest glorykills across both games like pulling on the manc's tube, the summoner's glory kills having no weight due to it floating or the pinky buttslap which is just unintentionally goofy

[waxen kayak]

i think both the games glory kills are disappointing. 2016s dont feel weighty and punchy.
i think eternal’s are worse though because it’s just slicing and cutting without any creativity for the most part

brutal doom 2 has the best glory kills

[elder meadow]

I disagree. Eternals are great but I kinda wish we had more thats my only complaint. They are cery creative tho

The prowler alone is a perfect example of it

[iron raft]

Hi

[earnest mist]

how do you glory kill in brutal doom?

[bronze kernel]

get berserk

then punch the demons

[keen charm]

Hi all guys,
as you know it's the thirtieth anniversary of doom and I wanted to participate in the competition, but they excluded Italy for some reason😫 . so I wanted to share my story anyway.
I started playing doom this year, because I wanted to learn how to play fps. I was completely sucked into this amazing world, there's no going back. It was tough at first, but in the end I managed to complete Nightmare difficulty 100%. But doom awakened something in me, a desire to play video games in a certain way, a way that at 32 years old I thought I had lost. So I decided to open a YouTube channel to share my passion, which I have always experienced alone, with others. I created a trailer for my series, I'd love to know what you think. This is my first act of love towards doom. Thank you.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m7ElizINkYI

[maiden urchin]

what good game does to man

[keen charm]

Ahh yes! It's a piece of art.

[vital ravine]

That bone pop to the face is BRUTAL

[candid silo]

Anyone here still play multi-player and watching to play?

[candid silo]

Wanting*

[peak meteor]

good luck trying to get a full lobby

[azure glen]

good luck even getting A lobby

[untold olive]

Also specify platform cuz there isn't cross play

[candid silo]

Ps4 or ps5 apologies

[fast oar]

You are on PlayStation? Than yes, still active and good matches. So hop on around this hour and you will find enough players. Europe servers and USA will do.

[candid silo]

Awesome thank you

[haughty rivet]

Ello

[bronze kernel]

anyone even think about touching battlemode on switch?

[bronze kernel]

doom eternal battlemode actually has people playing it on switch sometimes

uh

its fun

im usually way better than any of the other players

and in like an hour everyone hops off because i keep winning every match

and theres no more than like 4 people playing

okay sure

i uninstalled doom eternal for storage though on my pc

cuz i cant use any external hard drives cuz my usb ports dont work

but i have 2016 installed

okay lol

ok

i dont have any friends wanna play snapmap horde mode maps co-op?

snapmap is like

custom mapping

and has coop stuff

and coop campaign like stuff

i've never played it with anyone though i've only played by myself lol

i literally only have one friend and she doesnt have doom 2016

and i have a boyfriend who also doesnt have doom 2016 and is too depressed to do anything

ok

im planning on gifting my boyfriend and my friend doom 2016 this christmas when i get my steam gift card money

i really hope it goes on sale this christmas

because i might not be able to afford it for both of them if its not on sale

thanks

thank you

give me a bit though i gotta give my boyfriend therapy

time

[elder meadow]

Doom 2016 multiplayer still alive

Well kinda but I wish more players where in it

Idk why doom eternal multiplayer sucks

I wish they made a full multiplayer only Doom game

With a lot of costumization like 2016 did

I know people will enjoy it a lot of they ever made a only multiplayer doom game

I wish I could give my idea to the creator of doom

[bronze kernel]

play classic doom deathmatch in public servers and stuff

theres a lot of cool things people are doing probably

[elder meadow]

You talking about Doom 2015 multiplayer?

[bronze kernel]

no. classic doom.

[elder meadow]

There's multiplayer on that?

Doom 64? Im Confused lol

[spice cedar]

no they mean Doom and Doom II

although I'd totally play Deathmatch on Doom 64. sounds like fun especially with the Unmaker involved

[jagged summit]

I hear that, Doom 2016 was so much better and resembled more traditional multiplayer games, hell id even invented Deathmatch. I can't get into the Eternal multiplayer, but I love the campaign.

[maiden urchin]

sucks that there's 2 weapon limit in multiplayer

but it kinda makes sense since they released quake champions literally next year after that

[peak meteor]

it was fun when i was able to play

i liked the addition of the heavy demons

when u got the demon rune it was fun to play as like a baron and glory kill enemies

[severe oxide]

[crystal crown]

how to play doom classic multiplayer

[bronze kernel]

just please look it up, its pretty simple

i dont want to explain right now, sorry

[crystal crown]

ok

[crystal crown]

my best multiplayer shooter games is battlefield and doom 2016

[normal bison]

Y a t il un français qui veux voc avec moi

[spice cedar]

Sorry man, this is an English-only server

Also there are no more voice channels here

[normal bison]

Oh im sorry

Excuse me

[sage trail]

keys

[iron raft]

Прив

[azure glen]

Anyone on PS4 wanna play MP (on Europe servers)?

[normal bison]

I finish doom 2016

[azure glen]

I can't express how much I fucking hate Computing with Style and Beauty is Pain. I hope whoever decided for trophies that REQUIRE you to grind the multiplayer gets rolled down the longest flight of stairs in a barrel

Both challenges for Robo armor suck ass.

Glory kills are finicky in the sense that you either kill the enemy before you even notice they're glory killable, or you die before you can actually glory kill them, and headshots are damn near impossible when the lobby is full of XI 50 sweats

[winter stream]

Multiplayer achievements aside from basic progression should be kept out of games where mp isn't the main focus

[warm shoal]

Just got 2016 on PC today because of steam discounts. God, it’s so much better on PC than console.

[lament girder]

traditional multiplayer games didnt force a loadout and didnt have a high TTK

its a lazy ass halolike thats missing 90% of the cool things from the campaign but also doesnt have its own identity. snapmap multiplayer whoops its ass 7 ways to sunday

[elder meadow]

Does anyone still play doom 2016’s multiplayer on pc? I want to try n get all those mp achievements

[elder meadow]

Or is the multiplayer dead? I hope it isnt

[maiden urchin]

it's not completely dead but there's not a lot of people playing so good luck finding a match

[peak meteor]

it isn't, i was able to get a full lobby a while ago

but like he said, its rare to find a match

[ancient wadi]

I made Discord channel so we can help each other with multiplayer achievements.

Server code is
fnQS3gvhGm

[ancient wadi]

I made Discord channel for DOOM 2016 multiplayer

Server code
fnQS3gvhGm

[ancient wadi]

I agree.

[winter stream]

There's already a d2016 mp server

[ancient wadi]

Do you have link?

[winter stream]

GQ8pdqGKF6

[ancient wadi]

Thank you. It looks like I need to be approved.

[winter stream]

Just have to react to the rules

[ancient wadi]

Yea. It took a second to be approved.

[elder meadow]

Im in a multiplayer lobby rn on pc if u wwnt to join

[elder meadow]

Still on, I want to be on for a long while on multiplayer if anyone is on. I am waiting with nother in team deathmatch

[peak meteor]

have you been waiting for a match for 2 hours

[elder meadow]

Xd we need 1 more player

We had several matches but the guy had to leave

[fallow river]

holy shit it is the quale

[lament girder]

I LOVE QUALE!!!!!

[fallow river]

we live we love we quale

[eager trout]

Just came here to ask the same thing. Playing deathmatch for the first time tonight

[elder meadow]

Hmu if still on

[twin niche]

Anyone on PS I’m trying to play in about 40 cause I’m trying to unlock prowler demon in some 1v1 private matches cause you still get xp

[twin niche]

Okay sigmas no response

[elder meadow]

You gotta remember the multiplayer is nearly dead for this game. Its not lost planet levels of dead but its not great.

And trust me when I say, trying to find a multiplayer lobby in Lost Planet1 or 2 is HELL. You NEED to organize an event basically. You are never gonna find a match otherwise its so damn dead

[twin niche]

DAYM alrigh

I was just gonna do 1v1s

[fresh frost]

[fresh hull]

yo i would like to join someone on pc multiplayer

[elder meadow]

That was last night but if you still up gimme a hour

[shy creek]

i dont like using rich get richer

makes things way too easy

ill only consider it if im doing an UN run

[graceful pivot]

Which one is that?

[shy creek]

the one that gives you infinite ammo when above 100 armour

(or 75 armour when fully upgraded)

[graceful pivot]

Wait what. Is it a rune? What is this whole operation

[shy creek]

yea its a rune

[graceful pivot]

Huh. Usually the runes i go for are the one that drops armor on glory kills, the one that gives you a speed boost after glory killing, and the one that lets you glory kill from farther away

[woeful musk]

im playing on ultra violence, any tips? it's my first time and it's soul-crushingly hard

[hardy topaz]

Uh, turn down the difficulty if it's your first play through and you're unfamiliar with the mechanics

[woeful musk]

i thought about it but i really don't want to

im at hell

struggling at a part where there's 2 summoners

[graceful pivot]

Wtf are you doing on UV on your first playthrough?

It took me years of playing Doom 2016 before i was ready to even touch that difficulty mode

[hardy topaz]

He's the main character, obviously

[woeful musk]

clinically insane

so any tips?

they made the summoners so tanky

[hardy topaz]

Here's a tip

Turn down the difficulty, you will hate yourself if you don't

[graceful pivot]

Ironically, i think 2016 UV is shockingly well designed but it is for people who are experienced with the game

[woeful musk]

i already do

guess i'll just keep repeating the same section until i win

worked so far

[hardy topaz]

It's the equivalent to bashing and iron head against a concrete wall

It'll work.... eventually

[woeful musk]

i've done that

not an iron head but

[graceful pivot]

K then

[woeful musk]

alr thanks tho

[hardy topaz]

There's no saving this man
Prepare the lobotomy

[woeful musk]

ok the wall is breaking before my head, the trick is to use the lock on mod for the rocket launcher cause it oneshots them

[hardy topaz]

He's beginning to believe

[woeful musk]

ok it sometimes oneshots them

at least i can farm for double trouble since there's some possesed

[hardy topaz]

He's having fun on ultra violence

Most sane doom fan

[woeful musk]

maybe.

i cleared every single enemy and died to a hell razer

2 summoners and 4 of the big boys i forgot the name of

[hardy topaz]

Mancubues?

[woeful musk]

i just need to spam the rocketlauncher

[woeful musk]

buff big boys

hell knights

[hardy topaz]

Ohhhh

I am artistic

[woeful musk]

i never knew the rocket launcher was so op

i love the rocket launcher

friendship with super shotgun is over

[hardy topaz]

JUDGEMENT

[woeful musk]

game crashed

it knows im getting too powerful.

i've dumped 15 hours into this game

[hardy topaz]

Cringe

[woeful musk]

true

i don't have the brain power to be funny

ok i cleared it by memorizing where the summoners spawn

the indomitable human will gets another win

[hardy topaz]

Shhh

[spice forum]

[fast stirrup]

yo

i'm gonna need help with this game i'm doom casual and got stuck my first time trying 3 years ago

[jovial topaz]

2016 is fun

[gilded obsidian]

yo

who wanna do the multiplayer thing

[jagged summit]

It just takes practice. Start on an easier difficulty setting and by the time you're finished, it should feel easy and you'll be ready to turn it up a notch.

[silver magnet]

what do you guys think of the train (monorail) arena in VEGA central processing?

To me I find it hard; don't have much room to run around and is too reliant on the BFG to finish.

Not to mention that you have a 90% chance to die if the enemies pushed you to the lower part of the arena or accidentally fall onto it.

Unless you know what to do on that part or at least know how to get back up immediately to the surface, you're screwed, as in that part of the arena, you can get cornered easily especially by the Cyber-Mancubi or Hell Knights.

[jagged summit]

When you get on the monorail after the arena where you have to destroy the four cylinders?

[silver magnet]

yep

[jagged summit]

You get used to it but the once I destroyed all of the enemies but one must've gotten stuck in a wall or something because the forcefield wouldn't open.

[gilded obsidian]

yo

if i get to a checkpoint and leave the game

i can return to it?

or i gotta start the level from the beginning

[maiden urchin]

you start from checkpoint after getting to one

[crimson summit]

hell knights instantly die to a precision bolt headshot at max power

[elder meadow]

I remember when I first played Doom 2016, the first time a hell knight popped up, I was terrified, like I got jumpscared. I tried so many guns but they didn't seem to affect it. Now after beating it and going back to levels, it's pathetic, even against a regular shot gun

[crimson summit]

when i first played doom 2016 the cyberdemon was where my roadblock was

[silver magnet]

Cyberdemon? I find the Monorail arena in Vega Central Processing, and the final arena of Argent D'nur to be the biggest obstacle in Doom history.

[graceful pivot]

Argent D'Nur is the last level right?

[silver magnet]

Yep

[graceful pivot]

My tip is make use of the BFG, and save the powerup for when you really need it. You upgraded your powerup abilities with praetor tokens right?

If you have, then it should heal you and make it last longer

[silver magnet]

I did upgrade my powerup abilities. It's just that I struggle when moving from one position to another. Not to mention I couldn't aim properly most of the time especially on mid-air. Still though, I got through it and was able to finish the game.

[graceful pivot]

hmm

[wanton perch]

Anyone wanna play doom on playstation?

[graceful pivot]

Nah i don’t play FPS games with controller. Plus i hear they botched the soundtrack

[elder meadow]

I play it on switch

It's great

The soundtrack is the same...stop going with what everyone says, they have different tastes than you, even if it seems they like the same thing

Play doom 2, play doom 64, and play doom 3

[graceful pivot]

I might play Doom 3 at some point but i don’t plan on playing 2 or 64

[elder meadow]

Cus of what your friend said?

[graceful pivot]

And because i’m not a fan of old Doom

[elder meadow]

Fine

But at least try the mods, it changes everything, or don't, your choice

[graceful pivot]

Sonic Robo Blast 2 is a game i like yeah

[elder meadow]

Or Brutal doom

That's a neat one

Or the John wick one

Ok I'm hopefully done rambling

[orchid geyser]

I JUST BEAT IT ON HURT ME PLENTY!!!!

THE CAMPAIGN

[twin ore]

I miss matchmaking in Doom 2016

[gilded obsidian]

Anyone wanna play multiplayer

[plain merlin]

Slowly build yourself up to Nightmare

I did it one difficulty at a time and felt more than accomplished when I did it

[silver magnet]

The campaign on Ultra-Violence is a bit exhausting.

Still, it's worth it.

[graceful pivot]

I played 2016 ultra violence a few times before and i thought it was actually shocking how well designed the difficulty progression was. I’ll have to play it again sometime

[fair dragon]

Is there some way I can get a 360° view of the weapons in the multilayer screen without the UI in the way or nah?

Also I'm on multi-player FFA if any of yall want in

[young vector]

Why did my save corrupt?

[elder meadow]

Who thinks the 2016 doom music is better than eternals

[graceful pivot]

I think most people think that

[wary star]

alguem poderia me ajudar? esta dando problema ao eu inciar o Doom-2016, o erro chama FATAL ERROR: wglCreateContextAttribsARB failed

[graceful pivot]

Yeah Doom 2016 randomly crashes sometimes

[jagged summit]

Neither here nor there but neither are as catchy or memorable as the classic Doom music for me.

[sly condor]

The online multiplayer is now dead… cause I only found 1 person and that’s it…

[young vector]

I'm enjoying eternal's soundtrack better and I'm just starting the game

I don't remember 2016's soundtrack that much

[jagged summit]

I tend to just play my own music while ripping and tearing. The in-game music doesn't really hit the sweet spot.

[maiden urchin]

Rip & Tear is my absolute favourite from this game

although rest of soundtrack is great nonetheless

[woven trout]

One of my favourite is "hellwalker" and "Rust, dust and guts"

[inland prawn]

depends what region youre matchmaking i assume either that or its timezones cause all throughout the day im able to match into big lobbies but sometimes its pretty dead wont lie

only reason i joined this server was cause of multiplayer wanna talk to people cause its lonely lol and nobody talks in the text chats

but, team play is best for finding games from what ive found

[sly condor]

Yeah, possibly the timezones if I remember correctly.
Or I might just have to find the right time to get in the full lobbies (Only works when it's night depends)

[sly condor]

Same

[sly condor]

Yep, team play is definitely active there

[rustic sand]

I open debate: which DOOM 2016 song is the best

[sly condor]

5PM is the active time ppl get on doom online 👍

[opal hollow]

Vega Core got a damn step on the podium

This thing : dang
It's almost a shame the game isn't faster

[wispy hedge]

BFG Division

This is not even a debate here

[tall shoal]

bfg division intensifies

[rustic sand]

my favorite is BFG division

[smoky valve]

Transistor fist needs a place

[inland prawn]

ngl i like the entire ost cant choose but on multiplayer there aint music so i just wack on some reggae which surprisingly is really good at its job to say im killing people with pistols and shotguns an demons xD

[leaden valve]

It's easy. Play on nightmare

Or ultra violence 💪

[leaden valve]

Obviously Damnation or "Hell choir" on youtube, a better version of the song

[woven trout]

Play on nightmare, be real Doom slayer

[leaden valve]

You tried Ultra nightmare?

[woven trout]

Yea but it imposition for me

[untold olive]

I play on I'm too young too die

[leaden valve]

Its good

[leaden valve]

Huh

[untold olive]

Hellwalker

[leaden valve]

Also really good

[rustic sand]

Im about to finish it in ultra violence

[untold olive]

Nah jk I play on nightmare

UN is impossible

[woven trout]

Rust dust and guts

[leaden valve]

I like 2016's main theme too

In the elevator

[woven trout]

At the start ?

[leaden valve]

The song is brief but effective

[untold olive]

Hellwalker just sounds very good imo

[leaden valve]

But yeah damnation is one of the best

[woven trout]

Yea, this is sounds of chainsaw btw

[rustic sand]

wich song is the worst?

[untold olive]

yeah I'm aware

[untold olive]

They are all nice

[rustic sand]

yes they are but wich one is the less good

[woven trout]

Honest I dislike vega the most I think

[untold olive]

bfg division imo

overrated tbh

[rustic sand]

idk i like bfg division

[untold olive]

Nah but idk I don't remember the full ost

Bfg division is just overrated imo, I still like it, it sounds cool

[inland prawn]

i respec that

[rustic sand]

yea me too

[woven trout]

Soundtrack with cyber demon feels boring

[untold olive]

The best songs in all of the doom osts imo though are probably either E1M8 or Doom eternals title screen

Which the title screen music is just the icon of sin theme from doom 2 lol

[rustic sand]

good choise

[solemn path]

Español

[rustic sand]

hola

[untold olive]

hola

[solemn path]

Hola bto

[rustic sand]

quienes de aqui hablan español

[woven trout]

Yea I like this too

[solemn path]

Diho bro

Es que aqui puro chiken

[woven trout]

Hai amigo

[solemn path]

Hola

[untold olive]

Mande?

[rustic sand]

eres de habla hispana?

[woven trout]

Ehh I don't understand anything

[solemn path]

Oigan clmo se con sigue el doom de lava

[solemn path]

No de mexico

[rustic sand]

bien

[solemn path]

Pero como

[untold olive]

Les digo esto ahorita, este es mi último mensaje que yo mando en español. Los mods no permiten hablar español aquí porque no ay mods que entienden y que puedan moderar el chat, so porfavor no hablen español en este server. @rustic sand @solemn path

[rustic sand]

cual doom de lava

[rustic sand]

ok

[untold olive]

It's all good now

[solemn path]

No se ingles

[rustic sand]

dang

[solemn path]

A el dorado

Digo

Good

[rustic sand]

intenta usar el traductor lo mas que puedas

[solemn path]

Ok

the golden doom but easy

[rustic sand]

the funko pop i the game?

[solemn path]

I have eternal doom

[rustic sand]

the name stils doom eternal

[fast stirrup]

yo i'm loading into doom reboot rn

i'm on the 2nd or 3rd level

[orchid geyser]

Honestly from going to barely surviving Too young to die to absolutely destroying demons on hurt me plenty I felt pretty proud of myself.

[leaden valve]

Do you quickswap weapons and juggle equipment?

Take advantage of the blood punch, grenades, runes, and such

Use hordes of zombies to farm supplies

Such as ammo or armor

In addition use the meathook for platforming

[orchid geyser]

Im playing 2016, but I do quickswap and use grenades

[leaden valve]

Keep in mind all demons have weak points

[leaden valve]

I played 2016 and eternal you can quickswap in both yea

It just feels a little weird and jank in 2016

I also keep forgetting I cant dash

[orchid geyser]

Literally

I played an infinite arena mod for Eternal and once I played 2016 again I kept forgetting I couldnt dash

[leaden valve]

I forgot this was 2016 chat 🗿

lol well that's general advice for eternal

[orchid geyser]

Alright thanks

[orchid geyser]

Quick question about eternal tho

[leaden valve]

Yes?

[orchid geyser]

How do you kill those purple and grey imps?

[leaden valve]

I think they are called spectres

Before they teleport quickswap super shotgun to ballista and you can double tap them

Or super shotgun to the face and glory kill them instead

[orchid geyser]

Does chainsaw work against them?

[leaden valve]

You need 3 fuel they are considered heavy demons

[orchid geyser]

oh

Well thats good to know

[leaden valve]

Usually farm ammo from lighter demons like zombies, imps, or possesed soldiers

[orchid geyser]

Alright

[leaden valve]

Every now and then if you accumulate fuel you can chainsaw a hell knight for instance

You can do that a lot in the level before Final sin

Because there are makyr drones which drop ammo when killed from a headshot

Anyway any questions on 2016?

[orchid geyser]

Yeah

Whats an easy way to dodge the cyberdemons attack when it charges up a powerful laserbeam?

I keep dying to that

[leaden valve]

Keep moving and double jump I think I don't remember I played 2016 a long time ago

Worst case scenario zig zag and last minute pick a side I think works

Just keep in mind he has 2 phases

[orchid geyser]

Yeah

[leaden valve]

Don't worry there is a checkpoint

[orchid geyser]

I played him like 5 times

I memorized every other attack but that one seems to kill me the most

[leaden valve]

You can kill him very easily by quickswapping

Or you could cheat by using the bfg and the weapon wheel

It's a bug they never took the time to patch

[smoky valve]

I just switch sides right before he fires, it's a set time before he 'confirms' the location

[leaden valve]

The bossfights are better in 2016 not gonna lie

Except for the icon of sin in eternal

I liked that boss a lot

[solid otter]

I feel like the boss nobody asked for was possessed security, and for Doom Eternal, for sure the marauder

[leaden valve]

The marauder is shit

I hate that miniboss

I would rather fight an archvile or a titan

I also used to hate tentacles but they actually arent that bad

At least their not as annoying as the barnacles in half life

Not only are the barnacles scary as hell but make the game a lot more slow paced so you don't get sucked into the ceiling

Glad something like that is'nt in doom

[solid otter]

yeah

I still have some trouble with the archvile, but I'm getting better with it. I'd just recently beat Doom Eternal and bought the year one pass for The Ancient Gods 1&2, so now and then I'll replay missions for Doom eternal y'know? When I was first playing doom eternal, the tentacles scared the shit outa me too tho.

[leaden valve]

Yeah but have you played half life?

Barnacles are disgusting

They are the reason why I never beat half life

How do speedrunners never get caught by one of those if their going to fast

[solid otter]

no I have not, so I'll try it out.

[leaden valve]

Half life is okay I recommend you play the original game however with the classic 3d models and weapons

The "hd" models suck

[solid otter]

i own all ''Dooms'' but not the wolfenstien stuff, or quake

[graceful pivot]

Half life is so overrated imo

[solid otter]

i havn't tried it yet

[graceful pivot]

Honestly i don’t recommend it.

If you do want to try an older more obscure shooter, i’d recommend Quake (1996). The new Doom games took a lot of inspiration from that game, tho it is still a bit dated. It’s one of those shooters where they expect you to quick save, and the way forward isn’t always perfectly clear on a first playthrough

And it happens to have been made by Id Software, much like new Doom

The gameplay is great imo, but i will warn you, i think the visuals are just fine but nothing more, and the soundtrack is ass

[solid otter]

alright, thanks

[graceful pivot]

Has anyone here heard of/played Quake btw?

[solid otter]

@leaden valve , which doom is half life on?

[graceful pivot]

It’s not in a Doom game

[solid otter]

oh...

is it quake or something?\

[graceful pivot]

It’s like $10 on Steam

[solid otter]

aight

[graceful pivot]

No. It has nothing to do with any Id game. It was made by Valve. Tho there are rumors circulating that they stole the Quake engine and slightly modified it to make the game

[solid otter]

so it's its own game?

[graceful pivot]

Yes

[solid otter]

oh cool thanks

[graceful pivot]

And not one i’d recommend, personally

[solid otter]

thanks.

I think I might as well try it since it's been introduced to me tho

[leaden valve]

Half life is a seperate game

I compared the tentacles to the barnacles

[leaden valve]

I agree

Games I want to play rn are Turbo Overkill, ULTRAKILL, and Trepang 2

Especially Turbo Overkill

[leaden valve]

Quake is decent I remember how traumatized I was after quake 4's disturbing sequence late game (I played when I was 8)

I liked quake 3 arena the most

[untold olive]

Half life isn't doom

[solid otter]

thanks i learned

[snow heron]

Obscure is the last word I’d use to describe Quake

[wispy hedge]

Quake is also huge wdym

sure not as huge as Doom but like the Quake series ia also amazing

I have a necklace for crying out loud

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/703639413648916530/1190328165348946040/IMG_0574.jpg?ex=65a1667d&is=658ef17d&hm=a7dc4947354eca1969cf0cd5f79cae6d0e961926875cbcf33a426bf7d1d73182&

[graceful pivot]

The first game, at least

[graceful pivot]

Ask any average non gamer if they know what Doom is, they’d probably be able to tell you it’s an old shooter about demons. Ask that same person what Quake, and they’d probably have no idea what you’re talking about

[graceful pivot]

I played Quake 2 for like 20 minutes before deciding it’s dogshit and deleting it offa my computer

And then i hear they just str8up forgot to make a singleplayer campaign for Quake 3

[wispy hedge]

no

Quake 3 was multiplayer focused

Could they have added a campaign? Yes I think they should have

but it is what it is, deal with it

[graceful pivot]

Ok

[snow heron]

If you asked any non gamer they would probably be able to mention games that have been popular in the past like 10 years if they can mention any game at all since yknow keyword “non gamer”

[fallow river]

how is one so wrong smh

[fallow river]

quake's obscure? 😭😭😭😭

[fallow river]

it's not circulating john carmack gave them the quake source code to make the game

[graceful pivot]

Compared to other shooters, yes itis obscure.

[fallow river]

no it isn't, it's literally the first polygonal 3d shooter (like, not really but you get the gist)

want something actually obscure? look for descent

[fallow river]

@graceful pivot gabe newell literally worked on doom's windows port

[graceful pivot]

Port? Was it not a PC game to begin with?

[wispy hedge]

DOS

It played on DOS back in the 90s directly

but because Doom was 16-bit it couldn't run on newer systems, hence why source ports exist

They not only allow the games that are run under Doom's engine (specifically idtech 1) to be played on newer systems

[graceful pivot]

And yet they managed to port it to Steam just fine

[wispy hedge]

they bring QoL features too

[fallow river]

holy shit this guy 💀

[wispy hedge]

my guy

DOSBox

in 2019 they rereleased it when Nerve made the Unity wrapper for it, allowing a better experience on newer computers and consoles

[maiden urchin]

yeah, even original shadow warrior comes packed with dosbox on steam

[fallow river]

the codebase is based off the bfg edition ports

[wispy hedge]

I know, but that doesn't matter

[fallow river]

yeah but those has id tech 4 as the wrapper and id tech 5 as the networker code

[wispy hedge]

they brought it back and made it better than what BFG edition had by just a little bit

Sure, I prefer PrBoom+

[fallow river]

though idk if the network stuff is implemented

[wispy hedge]

Sadly not and it makes me mad

There is no online multiplayer which makes no sense

There is only local multiplayer and that makes me mad

but it doesn't matter

[fervent steppe]

Hellouu

[wispy hedge]

we have Zandronum and others for a reason

[wispy hedge]

hi

[fallow river]

yeah and unity is probably the best official version of doom

[fervent steppe]

[fallow river]

makes me mad bethesda are greedy bastards and won't let id release source codes to them

[wispy hedge]

well yeah because it's the official source port made by Nerve and Bethesda

[wispy hedge]

fr

[fallow river]

imagine the possibilities of a doom eternal source port

[wispy hedge]

Like can we just get Doom 2016's engine already if it's not being used anywhere else?

Like they're already move to what, idtech 8 after Doom 2016 for Doom Eternal?

[fervent steppe]

Alguien habla español?

[fallow river]

zenimax moment

[fallow river]

id tech 7