doom-2016

[idle badge]

Still slow

[limber shoal]

But as i said idrc im just enjoying myself

Think im rank IV

[idle badge]

What

enjoying games

[limber shoal]

Lol

[idle badge]

I mean the multiplayer isn't bad but I'd personally would like to spend less time on it

[limber shoal]

The armor piece achievements are unnecessary but the others are fine

[idle badge]

Agreed

[limber shoal]

10 kills as pinkie...10 kills as harvester..10 kills with peestol

[idle badge]

those are fun

or at least simple

[cold root]

yeah, that was the one

got the achievement

[idle badge]

Nice

[cold root]

just imagine if there was an achievement for beating the game on ultra-nightmare

[idle badge]

Still would be better than the armor piece one

[cold root]

I missed 3 datalogs. one in the vega processing, one in kadingir sanctum and one in lazarus labs

even worse, the vega processing and lazarus labs one were in the last parts

[idle badge]

Yo I did exactly the same thing

It's one for olivia, one for the cyberdemon and one for some enviroment

[cold root]

honestly, the codex entries of characters would be better if it showed their models in their idle positions, not an image of them

’’demonic presence at unsafe levels’’

how there’s safe levels of demonic presence?

[limber shoal]

Only "a toe into madness"

[idle badge]

I mean if they experimented on some

[cold root]

the runes I use are rich get richer, savagery and armored offensive

[idle badge]

I use vacuum, armored offensive and In-flight mobility

[cold root]

super shotgun and gauss cannon combo with rich get richer, hell yeah

that rune is like a cheat that is a collectible

unlimited ammo for weapons if your armor is 100 (75 when it’s upgraded) or more

[idle badge]

Ah yes got the achievement for getting all runes

5 days after getting the achievement for upgrading all runes...

It's a bethesda game alright

[cold root]

I got literally every single player achievement on my first playthrough, except butcher and a toe into madness

[idle badge]

And the data log one

unless you count using mission select as the same playthrough. This games sometimes decides it doesn't view it that way

Welp time to grind mp for 10h so I can finally let myself play doom eternal

[cold root]

I like how you can play earlier levels with mid-late game weapons

[idle badge]

Yeah that's cool

Btw which mastery challenge was the worst for you? Mine was the remote detonation one

[cold root]

any that you have to do 25 or 30 times

even though I really like Doom 2016, it barely has anything in common with Classic Doom in terms of gameplay

aside from key hunting

[idle badge]

I mean it had to evolve in some way

And evolve it did

[idle badge]

and demon infighting I guess

[cold root]

it plays more like Serious Sam

being locked in arenas and enemies start spawning everywhere

[idle badge]

true

I never played classic doom

[cold root]

lol

[idle badge]

Earliest shooter for me was quake

But serious sam I remember very well

that was my childhood shooter

[cold root]

the Pinky in this game is like a Werebull

[idle badge]

But much more annoying

with it's armor

[cold root]

fun fact: when I staggered the Spider Mastermind, I had literally only 1 hp left

and no, I wasn’t using the saving throw rune

[idle badge]

For me spider mastermind was meh

was a breeze, no spectacular climax

[cold root]

I used the bfg weapon wheel trick on every boss

[idle badge]

really?

[cold root]

yes

[idle badge]

And they still got you to 1 hp?

can't you like kill spider mastermind with 2 shots like that?

[cold root]

well, it didn’t dealt as much damage as I thought

[idle badge]

I just shot it normally with the bfg and then spammed turret mode and the g canon

[cold root]

iirc the Spider Mastermind had a quarter of her health when I depleted my bfg

[idle badge]

had to do the pillar dance once

[cold root]

I like the Revenant glory kill where you squash its head with its rocket launchers

[idle badge]

I like the one where you make a soldier kick himself in the face

[cold root]

the Spider Mastermind glory kill is so brutal

putting it to her mouth then firing, causing her head to blow up

[idle badge]

Meanwhile I go "Wait we still have ammo?"

[limber shoal]

Funny fact with the spider mastermind

The ammo boost rune can make u cheese tf out of the fight because it drops bfg ammo....the pillars the spooder makes has a chance of dropping bfg ammo :)

[limber shoal]

And i was unaware of this trick till this year

[lavish crescent]

BFG makes mastermind useless

I’ll try killing it on nightmare without bfg

[limber shoal]

I love to use the bfg on it after its done shocking the ground

With cyber demon when he has a lock on me...i can never dodge that or make em falter

[cold root]

what do you guys think of this game’s multiplayer mode?

it’s the only part of the game that usually gets criticized

[lavish crescent]

It’s nice enough, but there are some weapons that get implemented weirdly

[cold root]

finishing Doom 2016 made me want to replay the classic games for some reason

[limber shoal]

I really love it....glory kills...demon transformations...level up system...i find it nice

Only bad thing i see is the lack of anti cheating

[elder meadow]

i cant play 2016

[lavish crescent]

big zad

[cold root]

play it on I’m too young to die then

ultra violence in this game is easier than the one in Classic Doom

[cold root]

is there way of making enemies not attack the player in the snapmap?

I want to take screenshots of them in their idle positions

[abstract isle]

I think you can put them on a team with the player

[dusty oyster]

gonna play doom one last time before uninstalling for storage space

[grizzled glen]

Yes

[hot palm]

Doom 2016 is better than doom eternal

[lavish crescent]

both are good in their respective ways

[oblique mason]

bruh

[cold root]

made my own test snapmap in minutes

mainly so I can take screenshots of enemies without them attacking

the demon designs from this game are my favourites

I like the designs of the Pinky, Cacodemon and Baron

Spiderdemon also

[turbid sleet]

Spiderdemon has an incredible design in 2016

[untold stirrup]

cheese at the max

[tawny plank]

I explained it to my little brother since he was struggeling with the spiderdemon. But i never used it inside a run

[elder meadow]

true but the boss fight is the easiest for it being the final boss.

[turbid sleet]

yeah

[idle badge]

Cyberdemon was the only boss that killed me only because of the flame wave attack and the fact that it is undodgeable if you double jump

[cold root]

I should do the boss fights legit

with that trick they couldn't do literally anything

[limber shoal]

Pretty sure the dolls are models for this

[cold root]

what about enemies that don't have those

[limber shoal]

I think they all have those 🤔

Atleast they should have

Just a suggestion since your looking to get a better view of em

[cold root]

Lost Soul, Hell Razer and most of the Possessed: are we a joke to you?

[limber shoal]

No hell razer?!

[cold root]

yes

my boi doesn't has a collectible that unlocks his model for viewing, what a crime

[limber shoal]

Lol

I find em abit easier than the normal enemy...i hate the ball attacks

Its been a while since i paid attention to the models...i havent focused on em at all honesty.....did know there were some missing

[cold root]

''Get some slayer!''

[limber shoal]

I think im missing one....missed it by the guardians cuz im an idiot

[cold root]

Revenants in this game are a fucking joke

they barely do anything

even Doom 3 Revenants are more of a threat than the ones from this game

[limber shoal]

From 2016 up revenants threat level dropped...the lock on missiles were the worst

Its what made em such a pain to deal with

[halcyon bear]

New doom in general

[limber shoal]

Yupz....well idk i cant recall 64

Are there even revenants in it?

[cold root]

no

[limber shoal]

Lol

[halcyon bear]

64s new revs are great

[limber shoal]

New revs?

[halcyon bear]

Yeah

[cold root]

no Chaingunners, Arch-Viles and Spiderdemons either

[limber shoal]

Thank hell....

[cold root]

which is good because Chaingunners and Arch-Viles suck

99% of enemies in Plutonia are Chaingunners, Revenants and Arch-Viles

[halcyon bear]

Like doom 1 and 2 source ports we have new maps and enemies

[limber shoal]

Oh no

[halcyon bear]

Nah

[cold root]

the Revenant sort of exists in Doom 64

[limber shoal]

Is the revs added in doom 64 now or is it like a mod thing?

[cold root]

it's now some generic wall texture

[limber shoal]

I always find myself laughing when i see an empowered revenant in doom eternal

I always question how the fk they died to that....esp considering there are tyrants...mancubi and other annoying demons there

[halcyon bear]

The Rev is a thing now if you know how a computer works

[cold root]

id should have made the Doot Revenant skin replace enemy Revenants in the campaign too

it would be perfect

[limber shoal]

Like a cheat code in doom eternal

Remove berserk add Doot!

[halcyon bear]

Id should have predicted being 16

And dumb as bricks

[cold root]

what

[halcyon bear]

Did I stutter

[cold root]

the fuck are you talking about bruh

[halcyon bear]

Well right now your inability to understand English

[limber shoal]

Im just lost by this

[halcyon bear]

Do you want me to explain the fact you don't have the ability to understand

[limber shoal]

I really dont understand but egh just leave it

[cold root]

Classic Doom Spiderdemon: a big joke that can be easily tricked into fighting other enemies or killed with 2-3 shots with the bfg

Doom 2016 Spiderdemon: a very challenging boss that has a wide variety of attacks, can take a lot of damage and can easily kill the player

[tall girder]

argent energy tower

thats it

[nimble briar]

Yes the Argent tower

[tall girder]

so easy bro totally didnt die 20 times

[nimble briar]

What difficulty are you Playing on?

[tall girder]

hurt me plenty

i just got it no too long ago

[nimble briar]

Oh ok nice

[crisp sparrow]

Door

I absolutely love how this became a boss

[vague oak]

How fun it would be to get RT support for 2016, the game will look amazing.

[elder meadow]

i think it can easily happen for 2016's 10th anniversary. just have a next gen patch for the game. dont need to repackage it cus its already backwards compatible for both ps5 and xbox series x

https://tenor.com/view/savingprivateryan-ww2-old-soldier-matt-damon-gif-4203998

mfw when mfs who grew up with doom 2016 as a kid are now adults in their 20s

[shut marsh]

2016 was 42 years ago

😔

[lavish crescent]

Year 0 was 1864 years ago 😔

[cold root]

completed the uac on ultra-nightmare

died like 2 times

it says something that quite a bit of the markers showing the killed players are in the first arena of the game

[elder meadow]

kids born in 2006 are now 26 😔

[idle badge]

I mean the first level could be considered harder than some of the later ones if you factor in the fact that in the first levels you barely have any tools and in the later ones if you min max you will have quite an arsenal with all the upgrade points and hidden weapons

[cold root]

yep

also I stopped playing after finishing the first level and the save file got wiped, of course

those Possessed Soldiers are a pain elemental on nightmare

[idle badge]

I love how they can sometimes perfectly time that charged orb of theirs and hit me as soon as I finish a glory kill animation

[cold root]

Possessed Security are even worse

their shield recharges quickly if you break it, and they can deal a big amount of damage if they are close to you

[limber shoal]

Grenades are your new bff...also just chainsaw the mf if your out of options

[lavish crescent]

Stun bombs bruh

[cold root]

the rocket launcher's lock-on burst fire mod makes Summoners a joke

[lavish crescent]

They already are a joke

Top 10 video game characters that went through the most suffering

[cold root]

the virgin Summoner vs the chad Arch-Vile

[lean wolf]

Summoner is lowkey a devolved imp lol

[lavish crescent]

That’s exactly what it is bruh

[limber shoal]

They come back in tag for revenge

[lean wolf]

Simce in 2016 they were deadly in like one fight and that’s it

[limber shoal]

Wich fight?

First encounter is nothing since quad dmg

[cold root]

they aren't dangerous, yeah, but are very annoying

they sometimes spawn Hell Knights

not to mention they sometimes teleport right when you are about to shoot them

[halcyon bear]

Summoner is just a old imp

[lavish crescent]

theyre a variation of imps

[halcyon bear]

Yup

[cold root]

for some reason, the multiplayer achievements don' t unlock at all

I killed a player more than 10 times with the grenade launcher and the achievement for that didn't unlock, same with winning a match

are the multiplayer achievements broken or what

[wraith tangle]

I had that and it eventually proced afterwards

[limber shoal]

Probably assists

I fricking hate that so much...take out all his armor and like 70 hp then one guy shoots his foot and he gets the kill 💀

[cold root]

well, a friend of mine tried to help me with getting some mp achievements

but as I said, none of them unlocked

what's also strange is that the xp I got in the matches weren't added to my level

[wraith tangle]

the game records in-game how many kills you have. I forget exactly where, probably the weapons or stats tab, but it'll tell you how many kills you have with each weapon

[limber shoal]

Ohhh

[untold stirrup]

I mean, Lock-On does increased damage against summoners and fodder

But its normal damage is just abysmal

480 conpared to the 2000+ Remote Detonation

[wraith tangle]

is there some big google sheets with a bunch of damage values like that

[untold stirrup]

Don't think so, but maybe someone did compile something like that

The increased damage thing is just something I heard before in this channel

[wraith tangle]

do you get a different result rocketing a summoner 3 times vs lock on

[untold stirrup]

Those numbers were pulled randomly from what I remember so I had to check again

Normal unmodded rockets do 480

This is what DoomKrakken says:

"In DOOM (2016), rockets deal a total of 480 damage (130 impact + 350 splash). Lock-On Burst rockets each deal 325-400 damage (300-375 impact [depending on the monster] + 25 splash)."

[cold root]

did someone ever found out about how much hp enemies have?

[devout mist]

I remember seeing a list for enemy hp and weapon damage but it was for snapmap. I imagine the vast majority of it is still accurate for campaign too

[normal sky]

Hey. Some of you still playing the Multiplayer? On the eu server i cant find matches. Tried DM and TDM. Im on Xbox

[limber shoal]

Ik the dmg in mp/snap map is vastly different but im unsure about the hp...for example 1 punch in campaign staggers zombies but in snap map it takes 2 .....idk if this is because nerfed punches or more hp

1 point blank ssg staggers hell nights and cacos in snapmap....again unsure if this is due to hp or weapon dmg

[lean wolf]

Basing snapmap on the multiplayer ruined its balancing also pinkies are worthless due to missing armor and summoners are missing despite the game’s already small pool of enemies.

Cool idea terrible execution, outside of nodes which were pretty well done I will say.

[limber shoal]

I saw one snap map with summoners

But they are broken af

[hushed vault]

https://youtu.be/Sxd7JVibP_s?t=467
alternate timeline where 2016 was still stupidly dialogue-heavy like this clip from 2014 or so they showed at QuakeCon 2016

[tawny plank]

hp of monsters can be modified in snapmap, but yeah, i think the damage of weapons are modified

[limber shoal]

Ah i see

[elder meadow]

damn i had no idea more beta footage of doom 2016 existed. this is new to me

[hushed vault]

I wonder if the QuakeCon 2014 gameplay used that early orange HUD
I hope that surfaces one day

I wonder if it used the actual early Doom Hero suit design too
the blue one

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/691316769813692428/1010345086032298094/unknown.png

there's an unused Praetor Suit helmet model in 2016's files that matches the concept art

I've seen the Night Sentinel armor in early 2016 test footage (that's so early it straight up uses the Doom 4 player model as a placeholder) so I wonder if that was just made with the intent of it being generic UAC trooper armor like the other MP skins and it got repurposed for the Slayer lore when they got around to doing that because of how it looked

legit I wish Eternal had a blue 2016 Praetor skin exactly like this
I think I even Mandela'd one into my mind before

I think the early footage above might've used the blue design but I can't tell because of both the monitor quality and the in-game lighting

I'd really love to see what kind of plot 2016 had before the Slayer stuff started, if they had anything at that point beyond the obvious "kill demons"

[paper prairie]

guys

someone to play the multiplayer?

[lean wolf]

Broken how? I know what they summon changes depending on the encounter. Though there’s only like one encounter in the whole game where summoners are genuinely dangerous.

[wraith tangle]

kad sanctum has the only scary summoner imo. For whatever reason, they're always in powerup fights elsewhere

[lean wolf]

Yea that was the one I was referring too either there’s a powerup and/or they summon fodder in most other encounters.

[wraith tangle]

it wasn't until my last playthrough that I even found out that they could summon other stuff

[lean wolf]

They summon hell knights in that particular encounter and there’s two of them

[tawny plank]

Wait, summoners can be placed in snap map?

[lean wolf]

No

[tawny plank]

Well, trying to build up a decent boss fight, but somehow of the 4 %hp triggers is only the lowest one working, so is there anything i can do to fix it?

[lean wolf]

Idk maybe your nodes are bugged? Look through your nodes for mistakes.

[tawny plank]

I mean, it could be a thing that i modified the hp of the baron i'm using and so i increased the other ones over 100% as well.

The triggers*

[devout mist]

Yeah, there are spawners for them in some modded asset maps

[limber shoal]

Yea saw one map that had em but its abit buggy....like if you kill them they duplicate...one body explodes and the other one just stands there for a while

[tawny plank]

kk

[charred minnow]

Are there good Snapmaps that play like the campaign? If so, I'love to see some recommendations

[mighty dome]

PS4

?

[paper prairie]

truly is pc my man

on ps4 i just had the eternal

[olive cedar]

Is glory killing a weak demon/zombie like the demon u meet the first level gives you more health?

[wraith tangle]

yes

[worthy wolf]

hello, does anyone know how to fix the corrupt file?

[limber shoal]

Lower your hp more hp demons drop also

[elder meadow]

glory kills are fire but my favorite is death from above kills

hello, does anyone here play doom 2016 on nintendo switch?, i have been able to play multiplayer and im really wanting to try it out

[limber shoal]

Pc here sadly but make there are some switch players der

[abstract isle]

eye of horus

I think psychotron

[elder meadow]

anyone here play on playstation?

[elder meadow]

The sanctum is like the only tough summoner because it likes to spam spawn hell knights everywhere else it just gets triple rocketed

[lean wolf]

Yea it felt like the only encounter where thought was put in on how to properly use that enemy.

[limber shoal]

Sanctum is first time in hell?

[strong moon]

https://tenor.com/view/dying-monkey-dying-gif-13123180

[lavish crescent]

Nah doomguy has been in hell before

[limber shoal]

Ik but i mean in doom 2016 is it your 1st time in hell?

[lavish crescent]

Ye

[limber shoal]

Ah...yea summoner is kind of a pain there....but i always kill it first so was never a problem for me

[lavish crescent]

summoner is just sad

[halcyon bear]

Really enjoy the design though. Some cool lore there

[lavish crescent]

Absolutely, I just think it’s kind of a shame how underpowered it is compared to anything else

Hell normal imps would scare me more than summoners

[wraith tangle]

I disagree. main reason summoner has the reputation that it does has now to do with nearly every encounter with them having powerups

[mild horizon]

anyone cant take a screenshot in doom 2016 too

in steam

[snow heron]

One lock on rocket shot staggers a Summoner btw easy way to glory kill them

[limber shoal]

Oh interesting

[snow heron]

Makes doing the challenge for the rocket launcher easy as wel

Even though I find multi lock on pretty useless for the most part

[limber shoal]

It is...

[paper prairie]

but this game not had a crossplay?

[wraith tangle]

nope

[elder meadow]

Summoner just gets locked on burst

[lavish crescent]

Is the rune with making demons more stagger friendly a viable rune choice?

[elder meadow]

I use in flight mobility equipment power + ammo boost

[lavish crescent]

What exactly does equipment power do?

[wraith tangle]

it depends on the equipment. For siphon, it'll give you armor as well

[wraith tangle]

if you love glory kills -- but with how risky GKs are, and the fact that that rune makes them come out of stagger with more health can make it dangerous to use

[untold stirrup]

it increases the power of equipment

[lavish crescent]

Gee whiz, why didn’t I think of that

[untold stirrup]

I think grenades do more damage, holograms last longer, and siphon grenades also give armor

Equipment Power is busted

it's in the Cheesy Runes setup

[untold stirrup]

Yeah, Savagery is a better choice if you like GKs

[wraith tangle]

I remember something about holograms doing damage with their plasma with it? idk, don't use hologram it's cheeeeese

[untold stirrup]

Maybe paired with Blood Fueled, but not ure

Holograms do very little damage I remember

besides being cheese as a distraction, it's also a key component in holo-swapping

[wraith tangle]

holo swapping?

[untold stirrup]

easy to learn, hard to get consistent with(especially in battle), but once you get it down it's busted

[untold stirrup]

holo swapping gets rid of weapon cooldown + swap time entirely, including mod cooldowns

[wraith tangle]

does it work in MP?

[untold stirrup]

you can basically swap to another weapon in a fraction of the frames it usually takes

not sure if it works in MP tho

Here's Sylar's video on it

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_4vQ7yYvB4s

[halcyon bear]

Always had skill issues with doing this with a controller

[mystic vapor]

Doom 2016 is better

[hushed vault]

I wonder if a hypothetical 2016 remaster could have the Destructible Demons thing from Eternal ported over
I think that'd require making a lot of new assets tho

[devout mist]

All I'd really want from a possible remaster for this game is a faaar more fleshed out version of snapmap

[hushed vault]

also for the love of god fix the sound mixing
in addition to making it actually work right with headphones, make the zombies less ear-piercing dammit

raytracing would be cool too

also I have a Ryzen 5 and there's still noticeable texture pop-in for longer than half a second

[lean wolf]

What isn’t busted it’s 2016, everything in that game is trash or broken

[untold stirrup]

true

[lean wolf]

2016’s balance is so bad it’s impressive

[hushed vault]

also in general I don't really like the way the SSG sounded in 2016, shit sound mixing or not

it just felt weird and weak

[lean wolf]

The sound mixing in both games is bad, you can barely even hear equipment recharges in Eternal and most of the equipment sounds similar.

[hushed vault]

at least I can hear enemies that are right behind me in Eternal

[lean wolf]

Also Eternal needed more hud customization there shoulda been a custom preset that let you change hud colors for specific hud segments.

That and I think chainsaw fuel shoulda been under ammo like it was in 2016

[hushed vault]

I lowkey with the Revenant had the Lost Soul's scream in 2016 like the E3 2015 trailer made it seem

[lean wolf]

They coulda also put equipment and bloodpunch there and gave them all distinct colors

[hushed vault]

I wish Eternal kept the HUD it had at QC 2018

[lean wolf]

Idk I think it was overrated personally

The Eternal revenant is the worst revenant in the series and the devs forgot about the lost soul.

The lost souls pain elementals shoot in that game is a glorified projectile

[prisma anvil]

how do i get full combat rating in argent facility (destroyed)

[lean wolf]

Make sure your not missing enemies

Honestly the only level in that game with a hard combat rating is foundry

That lvl requires you to miss like no enemies

[limber shoal]

Im sorry what?

I never knew the armor thing lol

[violet plume]

hey anyone on xbox?

[crisp storm]

this may be surprising to some but I hardly used an of my frags/siphon grenades when I was playing doom 2016

[turbid sleet]

there were nades?

[crisp storm]

yes

[lavish crescent]

I kind of forgot about equipment as well, so you’re not alone 😅

[crisp storm]

yup same

[halcyon bear]

Siphon is actually pretty useful for when you fuck up in nightmare / un

[lavish crescent]

i fucked up many times in nightmare and i barely used it, gotta git gud

[halcyon bear]

Ya ya definitely do

[untold stirrup]

Yeah, it can go up to 35 armor per demon with Equipment Power 2

Ammo Boost, Equipment Power, Rich Get Richer, the Cheesy Runes setup

spam BFG and Siege, and throw siphon grenades when needed

game completes itself

[limber shoal]

Never knew that...then again im playing with no HUD

[halcyon bear]

That's fantastic. I love no hud! Just when I want to soak things in

[limber shoal]

I got use to it...i can't play with it on anymore

[paper prairie]

guys someone to play today?

[abstract isle]

My eyes have been opened slayer

[turbid sleet]

berserk marsuder kill should be to dig your hands into his head above and below his eyesocket and try to stretch them out wider, but you accidentally rip through his skull

[elder meadow]

doom 2016 is...

[steep garden]

Good

[frail saffron]

Hey I know I'm a bit late to reply but I play on switch

[grand phoenix]

tru

[turbid sleet]

doom 2016, though not as fun, is a much more immersive and satisfying experience. The dark atmosphere and the music really capture the feel of hell and the darkness in the UAC, while the experience playing through eternal is pretty much driven just by the adrenaline from the music and not really the environment around you

sometimes in 2016 (especially when that damnation post-battle choir would kick in), I'd enjoy just taking in the map design and the scenery while in eternal i dont think i spent much time focusing on anything besides ripping and tearing

[halcyon bear]

It's absolutely just as fun in its own right. No reason to say one games more fun than the other since both bring something unique to the table. Most cases that's just eternal first new to doom players with jank muscle memory who compare the both in that way. If you have the inability to switch games and enjoy them for what they do that's just .. feel bad for em

I do agree with the atmosphere though

[turbid sleet]

I'm just stating my opinion, I believe all the special unique gimmicks make the game more enjoyable combat wise. Doom 2016 had much more simple combat and later on in the game it got kind of annoying for me

[halcyon bear]

Yeah eternal did perfect the gameplay. But not being able to enjoy 2016s because of eternals just doesn't make much sense to me. Considering it's still one of the best fps games ever made. Saved the fast paced shooting genre. For example calling it annoying or simple 2016 to 2020( before eternals launch) would have gotten you laughed out the room

[tawny plank]

Yeah, 2016 is a good/near perfect game. The whole atmosphere is better, and some models/lore parts are better (e.g. revenant), soundtrack too. But eternal got the better combat and movement, and overall better enemy-design in point of quality from the ai, weak points, faulters, etc...
So both games got their benefits and both are good games.

[halcyon bear]

Absolutely

[tawny plank]

But somehow it was easier for me to get decent in the combat of eternal than to get into the combat of 2016.

[turbid sleet]

fair point

[elder meadow]

nice

[proud lantern]

Playing through this Gem again and i got to the demon destruction game. Does anyone know the controls for it? there's a bunch of videos online but no one explains the controls...

[abstract isle]

iirc it’s point and click or drag

[proud lantern]

nothing with the mouse is working 😦
not a big deal in the end, just a small pain lol

[hushed vault]

what if a 2016 remaster in 2026 had weapon skins added

and you got a special SSG skin for having Eternal installed

[halcyon bear]

I'd just like options for added monsters or new monsters in the campaign maybe the harvester something that adds spice

[charred minnow]

Honestly weapon skins are the last thing I need in Doom 2016. I'd love to see master levels from Enternal, maybe even in the arcade mode.

[atomic horizon]

A very final major content update for 2016 wouldn’t be bad.

They could add in things y’all mentioned above and other QoL features.

[hushed vault]

MP skins being usable in the campaign I guess

Imagine if they add a skin based on the Doom Hero concept art Praetor

I would main that shit 24/7

[wraith tangle]

would make next to no difference. 2016 has continuous first person for the full campaign

[hushed vault]

The arms

[broken light]

Reccomend me best coop campaigns from snapmap?
No horde morde or otehr arcde shit tbh

[inner hinge]

New SSD 1To --> Installing Doom 2016 on laptop Gtx 960m--> 59 Go to go --> 2mo /s (adsl power) --> 😵

[halcyon bear]

Gert

[jaunty rampart]

Hey uhm im playing the doom campaign and i have a question why did doom 2016 skip some monsters? Such as the arachnotron and pain elemental.

[hushed vault]

honestly I don't know

[jaunty rampart]

Yeah i was excited to see the pain elemental

its still a great game though

[halcyon bear]

A bit more than great. But I do agree more monsters would have been fantastic

[jaunty rampart]

amazing game

But yes i wouldve loved to see the pain elemental as in Doom II It annoyed me but was funny that i couldnt kill him through all the lost souls that dude spat out

[halcyon bear]

Oh yeah.. always a good time going at them with rockets

[jaunty rampart]

Definitely getting eternal after im done with the campaign

[halcyon bear]

Highly recommend it. They basically perfected doom 2016s combat and loop

[jaunty rampart]

I have heard it is hard though

[halcyon bear]

2016s nightmare mode is harder. Eternal is pretty balanced

[jaunty rampart]

Also if i want to replay a mission because i missed the hologram grenade do i have to do the whole thing again?

[halcyon bear]

You can just find them later on

[jaunty rampart]

I've also missed alot of field drones im stupid should I go back to get those or will alot appear later

[halcyon bear]

If it's alot then I'd go back

[jaunty rampart]

Will I keep my weapons in the level

That I got from later levels?

[halcyon bear]

If you complete the game and redo the campaign you can

[grim remnant]

Should I post here if I’m trying to find people to play doom 2016 multiplayer?

[shy blaze]

Yeah this is the right place to do that

[grim remnant]

I keep getting this “Unable to find dedicated server” error, am I doing something wrong, or am I just unlucky?

[lean wolf]

Are the servers even still up?

[halcyon bear]

Yeah

[hushed vault]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cYjR5UzhcZA
the Vine Boom kinda ruins this trailer now

[atomic horizon]

Lmao

Can't unhear it now.

[tight horizon]

Y’all still play doom multiplayer

[stray flax]

I want to try multiplayer on PC, I know it's still fairly active on Xbone, but I feel like I'm just gonna have to stick with Quake Champions for deathmatch

[cold root]

I'm gonna play Kadingir Sanctum for some demon slaying

uh, why the game shows a black screen when starting it?

nothing happens

[cold root]

is it because I updated my amd drivers

[halcyon bear]

That wouldn't do anything

[cold root]

I wonder why the game just shows a black screen

previously it worked as it should be

[meager cobalt]

Does it still work? I haven't been able to use it

[tight horizon]

Yes it should still work

Well I play on Xbox and no one is there soo sad

[meager cobalt]

Yeah I'm on switch

[stray flax]

@tight horizon that is sad. Last time I played it on Xbox there was still pretty short times to get into a lobby

[tight horizon]

Yep once tried for like half an hour I don’t know wether it’s because of the region I’ve chosen or the time I play in my country

[stray flax]

@tight horizon if you have a PC quake, quake live, and quake champions are all extremely active, amd they run on my cheap Lenovo laptop so it doesn't take much. That's where I've been scratching the deathmatch itch

[tight horizon]

Aw yeah I’ll have to check those out then

[boreal matrix]

Hi

[boreal matrix]

Me too :/

[tight horizon]

But I do not own a PC

[arctic smelt]

I’m on Xbox one

[stray flax]

@tight horizon well quake is still available on Xbox, idk how active it is tho

[wraith tangle]

the lag is unplayable for MP quake deathmatch, least for xbox. So it's mostly for coop imo unless you get local or ig lan

[stray flax]

Oof. I'm so glad I have a laptop lol. It's definitely not a "master race" PC but it does a lot

[cold root]

can anyone help me in regards to the issue I have?

I tried to do literally every solution on steam (like that api command or installing c++ 2015) but none of them fixed it

[halcyon bear]

It's pretty easy finding a match on pc the 2 times I tried

[cold root]

I also verified the game files, reinstalled the game and rollbacked my drivers, but still this piece of shit just shows a black screen

[arctic smelt]

Half of the time I can’t see anything why doesn’t Doomguy have a flashlight I need it

[cold root]

someone help me with fixing this please

[untold stirrup]

Turn up the gamma

Easy fix

[cold root]

I'm also having problems with the fucking CLASSIC DOOM GAMES

Doom 1 and 2 don't show their proper title screens and nothing happens when I try to start a campaign, and Doom 64 doesn't launch at all

[broken light]

Someone reccomend me best coop snapmap maps that not horde mode

or raid

[elder meadow]

I DO I DO

[tight horizon]

Yooo

[tight horizon]

What’s your Xbox

[grim remnant]

I feel like I gotta get lucky to find enough people to start a match

[stray mauve]

This is one the best doom games in my opinion.

Maybe the best one

[hushed storm]

i think the title of best doom game goes to doom 3

but yes this is the second best doom

[pure meadow]

hiiii

how/where can I send a screenshot? I need some help

[halcyon bear]

Screenshot page below

[eternal canyon]

anyone have any tips for 2016 ultra violence?

[wraith tangle]

be violent

[eternal canyon]

100 iq

[wraith tangle]

spam gun

[rough rivet]

Get that one thing that gives you infinite ammo and spam siege mode

[eternal canyon]

thx a load

[halcyon bear]

Sin

[eternal canyon]

🙂

[rough rivet]

Make sure to get the double shot SSG

That thing is op

[halcyon bear]

Remote detonation is your friend

[rough rivet]

Each single shell now does the same damage as if you didn't upgrade the ssg

[snow heron]

This plus mastered Siege Mode Gauss Cannon

[charred minnow]

wait remote detonation is useful?

[nimble briar]

Don't conserve too much, use your artillery. Use chainsaw on heavies

[halcyon bear]

It's one of the most powerful weapons in the game

[charred minnow]

i always use the other mod, the lock on burst

I just cant get used to the remote detonation

[halcyon bear]

That's good for new players but remote detonation is just 1000 times better

[tawny plank]

Specially in eteral its helpful for hard faulters or just for people who struggle with the marauder, since he doesn't block explosion damage from behind.
Or just for a health/armor pool in both games after you unlocked the rune giving you armor in 2016. Since you can use it blow up large groups of low health enemys.

[wraith tangle]

rem det doesn't hard falter

[tawny plank]

Not that lock on burst is bad, personally i play with both, but it has some more benefits

[wraith tangle]

except on barons and I think cyber mancs

[tawny plank]

I thought it was an upgrade thing in eternal, but you can be right as well

[wraith tangle]

the upgrade is just to give it the soft falter

[tawny plank]

Ah

[wraith tangle]

try rem det on a hell knight twice in a row. only the first will falter it in DE

[tawny plank]

Yeah, i remember.

Took a break from DE, used to play the classic games for the last couple of months

[wraith tangle]

even classic doom has a surprisingly deep falter/stun/pain state system for such a simple procedure: random chance determined by monster per instance of damage

[tawny plank]

Ik, its based around pain chance, but its based upon rng, so not really comparable with current faulter systems

[untold stirrup]

Once you get used to it, you won't change back

From what I remember, it takes 8 lock on rockets or less to kill a hell knight, but 1 from remote detonation

[lean wolf]

Remote det in Eternal is only good for falters and pinkies due to its terrible damage falloff. It’s more effective to shoot aoe at a marauder’s feet than use remote det.

[wraith tangle]

don't forget the real use for rem det: avoiding using lock on cuz lock on is OP(it is actually pretty decent in battlemode though)

[lean wolf]

In Eternal yea lock-on and remote det basically switched places in terms of usefulness.

Though lock-on in 2016 was great for summoners.

[radiant remnant]

i find it pretty cool how humiliating the death scenes in doom 2016 are

[sharp quest]

Anyone on here still fuck with the 2016 multiplayer, me and my mate are looking to get back into it

[tawny plank]

Never played multiplayer, maybe in near future

[wraith tangle]

there are lobbies relatively often. sometimes you have to wait a few minutes, but if you go for team play at reasonable times eastern time, you'll find lobbies

[sharp quest]

I know, my question was, does anyone on "Here" still play the 2016 multiplayer

[vivid sequoia]

Absolutely. I am always looking for a consistent group to play PS4 lobbies with

Kind of spend more time playing SnapMaps since I rarely find people playing in pubs

[grim remnant]

Wish I could play with you guys, but I’m on PC

Also, when would the best time be to find people in multiplayer?

[halcyon bear]

It's all luck

[sacred cairn]

honestly. I tried to start a group but they never answered. kinda why i dont hop on multiplayer anymore

@grim remnant

[hasty crescent]

I’m up for some multiplayer on PS4, got a few matches last night but it’s dead this morning

[elder meadow]

am going to start playing for the first time

[wet halo]

Wtf
I just saw a pinky run off a high ledge and fall and die

am I imaging things and he died from splash damage or can they really just fall

[burnt harbor]

He knew he didn’t stand a chance
He had enough

That’s prolly why he game ended himself

[wet halo]

lol smart

finished the game on UV (first playthru), final boss first tried lol

[burnt harbor]

Yea icon of sin is ez

Also good job on finishing your first playthrough

[wet halo]

this is 2016 xd

ive beaten eternal like 4 times, on ultra nightmare too lol

considering 2016 ultra nightmare

[wet halo]

ty ty

[burnt harbor]

np

[burnt harbor]

Oop

[halcyon bear]

It's less balanced but very doable. It's a good time

[wraith tangle]

Killed by World

[snow heron]

I think they can? If they stray to far from certain areas they outright die. This is so that demons can’t escape out all over the larger maps. Imagine having to chase a single Imp around Argent Facility

[halcyon bear]

Killed by chair

[wet halo]

2016 gameplay is really inconsistent at times which sucks, like I'll kill 2 barons and 3 hell knights easily then 2 imps fireball me from half way across the map and I die

Eternal UN, if you die you usually deserve it

[snow heron]

Imps in 2016 early game are harder to deal with then early game Hell Knights

[vivid sequoia]

Honestly, pretty true for Nightmare runs

[wet halo]

oh my god im trying regular nightmare campaign to prepare and died 6 times on the first level

i beat eternal and both dlcs on UN so i thought hey 2016 nm gonna be the same right?

2 imp fireballs and you die bruh

[halcyon bear]

Yeah it's a harder UN in my opinion

[wet halo]

bruhh this is just bs how do i survive 2 shot imps

[elder meadow]

@slim pebble this was 5 months ago

And i wasn't saying that your statement was a comparison but this statement that I said: "It would be like you had the infinite ammo cheat activated"

[atomic garnet]

any tips for console

i cant aim

cant chain weapons either

[noble moat]

Practice

All about practice

[atomic garnet]

whats even worse the sensitivity is so low

i put at its highest

practise cant change that

[elder meadow]

You cant quick swap in 2016 on a controller

[atomic garnet]

im not good at it

because of the delay i keep on accidently moving my camera

[elder meadow]

Bro you cant quick swap in 2016 without a keyboard

Its physically impossible (If you dont have a hologram)

[snow heron]

It’s pretty simple for basic weapon combos. For example say you want to do SSG and Gauss Cannon combo right? The way I do it is open the weapon wheel and pick the SSG then open the weapon wheel again and pick the Gauss Cannon
-The weapons are now equipped , tapping the weapon wheel button instead of holding will switch you to the last equipped weapon
-Now fire a weapon then tap weapon wheel fire tap fire tap

[atomic garnet]

I know

[elder meadow]

Okay there is only two quick swap combos that work on console

[snow heron]

Still a combo

[atomic garnet]

when i first got the game i didnt know about anything i just used the shotgun

i just saw it for £4 and got it

[snow heron]

Glad Eternal makes it somewhat easier for more then 2 weapon combos to be possible for console

[elder meadow]

Gauss cannon with the quick scope mod or whatever it is with ssg and rocket launcher plus heavy cannon with scope

[atomic garnet]

fr eternal i think its worse because you cant rly bunnyop

[elder meadow]

Bro...

[snow heron]

Yeah I got 2016 for $5 on Steam great price for a game like that

[atomic garnet]

i found it in cex

game shop in england

they even got a gamecube

[snow heron]

Remote Det and PB are great and Ballista PB is also pretty damn good, still remember when SSG Ballista was thought to be the strongest for melting Marauders

[slim tide]

whats the way to get gud in 2016? i played the hell out of eternal and went back to this game and the way to avoid fire is different i cant read it

[elder meadow]

Also you don't have to always open the weapon wheel to switch your weapon if you didn't know already

[atomic garnet]

i know

[elder meadow]

But this is Doom 2016

[snow heron]

The closest game shop to me is a GameStop by an honestly semi shady part of the town I’m in it got broken into during the pandemic and now has these ugly wooden boards plastered on it.

[snow heron]

remote det and Gauss cannon then

Remote det in general not that bad

[atomic garnet]

but you take so much damage

actually killed myself trying

[snow heron]

From remote det?

[atomic garnet]

yes

[snow heron]

Well you won’t take any damage if your not setting the Rocket off in your face

[atomic garnet]

shut up i dont know to do it

[snow heron]

skill issue

[elder meadow]

Tbh and by all honesty i think Doom 2016 is better than eternal

[atomic garnet]

???

I rly want eternal

[snow heron]

I like 2016’s atmosphere and level design a bit more then Eternal’s but Eternals gameplay is better then 2016’s

Like combat wise

[elder meadow]

Yeah that's true

[atomic garnet]

the closest thing i have to eternal is eoa eternal a doom 1993 mod

[elder meadow]

Don't worry eternal is a good game but i personally prefer 2016 + if you're interested in the story of 2016 then you're going to want to buy eternal

[atomic garnet]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nwEuwQRRE0E

i dont rly care about story its doom

this mod is good thou

[elder meadow]

That actually looks pretty cool i might download it

[atomic garnet]

if you have eternal theres no point

[elder meadow]

It's eternal gameplay but in og doom levels

[atomic garnet]

https://www.youtube.com/redirect?event=video_description&redir_token=QUFFLUhqbkdEaG03Rm10NVdNcUFnLUdfN1A3NFVFWTMtUXxBQ3Jtc0traG5EMzNTNms4Y3FwcWhYakx5bXZPUjZQekhvX0Fuc3dYTmxzS3U0QkdBNERKYmQ1cFhqV3JWdGh5M3paeDhrc3R2U01JQzJTLWowUjFkVFA2cFhaSFZVa2R3eTlwVDNPWnFpOEtzcTJvY29qenl2aw&q=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.moddb.com%2Fmods%2Fembers-of-armageddon%2Faddons%2Feoa-eternal2&v=Dfm4zvcmfwI

[elder meadow]

Why not

[atomic garnet]

its just eternal

its not graet w/ og levels not designed fr it

[elder meadow]

It looks fun tho

[atomic garnet]

try if u want to

try it with eviternity

or a slayer map

a nice open map

[elder meadow]

Kk

[wraith tangle]

swaps are definitely possible on controller on console. They can be awkward sure, but they're definitely doable

[halcyon bear]

Eviternity is great on its own

[halcyon bear]

Just put in the hours like everything else

[untold stirrup]

ah yes, saying "shut up" to a person that's helping you will really want to make them help you out more

[fiery hull]

doom 2016 epik

[weak karma]

anyone down to help me with the multiplayer trophies for doom 2016

[fiery hull]

i wish i could

[atomic garnet]

I know it helps alot

[hexed karma]

hello

[wet halo]

man 2016 nightmare is BRUTAL

uv eternal to nm eternal feels like nothing compared to 2016 uv to 2016 nm

[elder meadow]

I have uploaded a couple vids of doom 2016 https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCCtRjEVBMNSrroDrRDYekEA

[elder meadow]

wait you are saying one of the difficulties on doom 2016 is more difficult than doom eternal.🧐 🥸

[wet halo]

for me it is

I beat eternal UN for base game and dlcs

but 2016s nightmare is so punishing

but im sure that after Kadingir Sanctum itll become easy once I have all the gear

but first 5 levels even imps can 2 shot

[elder meadow]

hmm I never have tried higher difficulties on 2016 but normal that I played on both the games, I can tell you this doom eternal was way difficult.

[wet halo]

In general Eternal is harder because its playstyle is unconventional

but I think Eternal nightmare is more about better reaction time so its fair

but 2016 nightmare is just "dont get hit" which is kinda dumb sometimes lol

[elder meadow]

I gave up nightmare on 2 level on eternal because I did not learn to quick swap, planning on another playthrough soon.

[wet halo]

try ultra violence if you're still tryna learn quickswapping, its not too punshing but requires you to pick it up

i directly went from normal to nm, died like 80 times first playthrough, then extra lives mode with 7 lives lost, then UN in about 4 attempts

[elder meadow]

yes I learnt to quick swap. I tried quick swapping on doom 2016 in one of my vids. You will see it soon enough on my channel.

Doom 2016 is not build for swapping it makes the enemies too easy. Very noticeably easy.

[wraith tangle]

Neither game is "designed" for quick swaps beyond maybe ssg ballista

[charred minnow]

can someone explain to me how people get these insane Highscores in Arcade Mode? It seems impossible to reach 700 Million when 3 Million is already the Gold Rating

[halcyon bear]

It's definitely alot easier than 2016 nightmare. Balanced better than 2016. 2016 nightmare was more of a test of game knowledge and movement you needed to master the game. Eternal is more of a mainstream title when it comes to its mass marketing. It make sense it would make its most difficult mode more accessible considering how many new doom players it attracted

[halcyon bear]

It's definitely made for swapping

Since you know. It invented for the series

Well players did

[elder meadow]

I decided to give 2016 another try last night

I’ve tried it 2 or 3 times over the years and never made it all the way through

Always been more of a Doom 3 fan

[untold stirrup]

Nerd emoji unecessary, also promo and videos go into #videos

[halcyon bear]

Never played above hurt me plenty in 2016.. game is easy lol

[ivory torrent]

Hello

[untold stirrup]

Exactly lmfao, he shouldn't have any say in how difficult 2016 vs eternal is

Other guy completed UN both base and TAG for Eternal

[ivory torrent]

I’m playing 2016 rn

[halcyon bear]

Honestly lol

[ivory torrent]

I have a hard time on hmp

Probably because I suck but

[untold stirrup]

You'll get better as you play more

It goes for basically every game

[elder meadow]

What are the demons with the glowing red spines called?

[vivid sequoia]

Think you’re talking about the Hell Razer

[elder meadow]

That’s my fav demon so far

[atomic garnet]

Just beat doom 2016🥳

didn't feel complete thou the ending meh and the bossfight was alright

[pure meadow]

one question

about achievements...

there are achievements like "obtain all of those things on one campaign"... can I replay the levels, obtain the things, and get the achievement? Or it has to be first try

[vivid sequoia]

I think it's pretty much agreed upon that the Baalgar (Cyberdemon) fight is better than Spider Mastermind, but it's still a decent final boss.

[vivid sequoia]

You can go back and do them.

[atomic garnet]

I'm not a completanist

[pure meadow]

yeah today I finished doom, it was a meh final boss, but a good final level with the 3 arenas that it had

[atomic garnet]

i will replay it thou

doing everything is more like a chore

[vivid sequoia]

Meh, not really. Becomes easier the more you get into it.

[atomic garnet]

the cliff hanger kinda made it worse

[elder meadow]

Can’t say. I just got to Hell for the first time.

[pure meadow]

if I found everything on a level I am replaying

I do have to complete the level in order for it to count?

or can I quit

[wraith tangle]

get to a checkpoint

[pure meadow]

nice

[halcyon bear]

It's a decent last fight. Again it depends on what difficulty. Personally I like the hell guardian fight

[lean wolf]

That Cyberdemon laser in 2016 makes the Eternal one look like a laser pointer

[vivid sequoia]

The shift in gameplay and style aesthetics between 2016 and Eternal left a few demons out to dry for sure.

[elder meadow]

Just finished the first Hell level. I’m officially farther than I’ve ever been in this game.

[vivid sequoia]

You can do it

[elder meadow]

That level did me in last time I tried this game about 3 years ago.

I tapped out

[vivid sequoia]

Ah, Kadingir Sanctum is a bit of a jump, but glad you pushed through.

[elder meadow]

That part where you have like 3 of the horned dudes coming at you.

[wet halo]

Well, just finished Argent Tower (Destroyed) on nightmare.. totally FIFTY ONE deaths from the start of the game til this point..

man, i beat UV with relatively no difficulty. Nightmare is a huge jump, even the slightest screw up is death

Good news is majority of my deaths were in The UAC - Argent Facility

so that means either im improving or only the starting levels are hell just like in Eternal

[wet halo]

just finished Advanced Research Complex with no deaths

[near thunder]

You want go full difficulty , try the DLC part 1 in Doom Eternal, hardest levels in my opinion, specially the last boss fight of that DLC

[wet halo]

Already Ultra Nightmared it.. twice

Eternal NM is easier to some extnet, as in if you're skilled at Eternal and skilled at 2016, Eternal NM is easier

Its harder to become OP in Eternal but once you are its not as punishing

but 2016, even if you do everything right 1 mistake hurts a lot more

[near thunder]

Nice! Yeah i agree, i used to play the Arcade mode with Doom 2016 , it was tough that is for sure

[wet halo]

Haven't tried Arcade mode yet. My goal is to best ultra nightmare on 2016

[near thunder]

Good luck with that, i amn't a big fan of Ultra Nightmare , don't like too much the idea of have just one life and if you fuck it up only once, game over back to Zero

[wet halo]

yeah, its p unfair (especially in 2016) but its a challenge i do to "prove to myself" that im good (even though its really not necessary lol)

oh well, atleast if i torture myself like this now i wont have to again later

[halcyon bear]

un more than anything is for yourself ( and a bit of a flex)

[near thunder]

Yeah, good luck in your journey only thinking about it makes me Shocked

[wet halo]

yeah lol its just a challenge

tbf in eternal i did all 3 uns so i could scare people in battlemode but it barely ever did anything

cool skins and rank tho

[near thunder]

Yeah, it is a cool skin specially if you use Ray Tracing

[wet halo]

no rtx

[near thunder]

Same lol, you need at least a Nvidia 2000s series at least

[wet halo]

oh but also

i really dislike the gold slayer skin in eternal it looks kinda bad lol

the gold maykr (aurum) skin is great tho

looking forward to dying 2016 times trying Doom 2016 UN tho

[halcyon bear]

I use 25th anniversary so they know I'm insane

[halcyon bear]

You're gold after foundry

[wet halo]

Heard Kadingir is the toughest

I died less there than foundry tho

Siege Mode

[halcyon bear]

You're pretty beefed up by then. At that point you don't have to worry to much about random bs.

[wet halo]

Yeah that is true

I didnt even use the hologram and siphon grenade + rich get richer in my UV playthru

so im trying to master them now because youre basically unkillable if you can use them well

I went into Lazarus with 51 deaths from The UAC til that point

so just have to bring that down to.. 0

i did that for eternal, so i can do that for 2016 too if i try lol

[halcyon bear]

You don't really need un advice but I run a nightmare file also to practice an arena before jumping to the other file. Really can help

[pure meadow]

is there a way to "cheese" multiplayer achievements? I have very few things left on the campaign and I only have left the multiplayer achievements... And like... they cant be obtained playing on a private match with a friend or smth? its like... It takes 20 minutes to find a match and I really love the multiplayer but I dont want to spend 40 hours on just searching matches

[halcyon bear]

Yes

[nimble briar]

Do what this guy says

[near thunder]

You should have all the doom games, from doom 1 to Doom Eternal DLC part 2!

[rugged wagon]

doom 2016 switch multiplayer is completely dead

[whole wing]

PS4 multiplayer is getting there. I assume things slowed down immensely after Eternal.

[vivid sequoia]

Which is a shame because it plays better than Eternal’s

Been hoping to find a dedicated group to play with

[elder meadow]

Never tried it, but I’m on Xbox One

[whole wing]

Yo same. I have a small group of people who've been looking for a while.

[vivid sequoia]

Yeah, be solid to have a group to play PS4 with

[whole wing]

Four men, all but one very much aquatinted with nu-Doom

ahem
@mellow lion YOU.

[mellow lion]

Huh?

[whole wing]

I was talking about 2016 multiplayer with this guy

[mellow lion]

Ah

[whole wing]

He doesn't have a group, but the more heads we can gather the better.

[mighty horizon]

[vivid sequoia]

Would be pretty solid to gather up a group if we could.

[devout dagger]

😊I know what you did😎🤭

[near thunder]

I am up, but it isn't cross-platform right?

[tawny plank]

I'm just on pc and limited in possible time, so i pretty much can't play regular mp, unless a server fills up around 5pm cet

[thorn valley]

[high gazelle]

Doom is a great game

[sacred hedge]

I agree

[high gazelle]

Yea

[halcyon bear]

Yes

[soft skiff]

so i backed out of the spider mastermind fight (before jumping down the hole) to go get some runes i need and then when i go back its a blank area surrounded by fog and every other level removes my mods, preator suit upgrades, mod upgrades, and everything else. anybody know what happened and how to fix it?

nvm i fixed it

[near thunder]

Doom Franchise is the best!

[elder meadow]

Just made it to Lazarus Labs. I’m spent.

[dense ore]

Just started Doom 2016! Any tips?

[elder meadow]

If you’re like me, you have to learn the hard way that Doom isn’t survival horror 😆

[trim oasis]

Shoot it until they die.

[nimble briar]

Don't conserve too much, use your artillery. Use chainsaw on heavies

[snow venture]

Switching to your secondary weapon is faster than reloading

[stray flax]

@dense ore Rip and Tear

[wet halo]

ammo boost is so broken

infinite BFG

[wet halo]

insert 417th cliche joke about it being survival horror for the demons

too bad that joke stopped being funny in 1993

oh but doom 2016 on nightmare is survival horror sometimes

[wet halo]

first tried hell guards on nightmare, awesome

[elder meadow]

For me at least, it was referring to the fact that I’m more used to playing Resident Evil, Metro, etc.

And for years, the only Doom I had played was 3

I sucked badly when I tried 2016 a few years ago cause I was moving too slow

[hushed vault]

I still want a final QOL patch for 2016

[halcyon bear]

I try not to use op runes. Kinda defeats the purpose of a harder run

[wet halo]

Im trying for ultra nightmare

I've already beaten the game on UV and really dislike the BFG in Doom UV and Eternal NM

but for ultra nightmare my only goal is to beat the game without dying or using exploits

[halcyon bear]

You dislike the bfg in classic doom?

[wet halo]

Meant Doom as in 2016

classic doom bfg is freakin awesome

but in the new games it feels cheap sometimes

[halcyon bear]

Ah gotcha. Yeah I honestly don't use the bfg much unless I feel like frying a room

[wet halo]

but less so in 2016 cause you dont have the same options to escape

nightmare is really bs if you get cornered or have many demons so i find it fair to use BFG on ultra nightmare

but on ultra violence, no rich get richer or bfg

just quickswap to victory for me lol

[halcyon bear]

Be sure you're using in flight mobility. Pretty great in 2016

[wet halo]

still, using the bfg carefree is rlly fun sometimes haha

[wet halo]

I use it on UV but for NM it doesnt seem super useful

for UN im planning on ammo boost, vacuum and saving throw

[halcyon bear]

It definitely is. More movement is never a bad thing

[wet halo]

it is useful, but rune slots matter

[halcyon bear]

Plus if you know how to boost

[wet halo]

on UV the mastered in flgiht mobility is so fun

in Eternal air control is a must

but for 2016 nm it seems like being airborne doesnt give many advantages since there are less mobility options in mid air than in eternal (monkeybar, meathook)

but tbh, in flight mobility is the most fun rune]

the agility makes dodging effortless rlly

[halcyon bear]

My nightmare un runs in 2016 air is just a staple for me. Feels sluggish without it

[wet halo]

hm, ill try it and see if it helps me a lot on nm since mastery is v easy for it

lots of people reccomend rich get richer but i dont rlly like it cause its useless the moment you get hit once

also, i have no clue how to get back to full HP and armour in a fight in 2016, i dont think the game is designed like that

in Eternal if you fall from 200 to 50hp you can get back to 200 easily, but in 2016 you can only get back to 100 then glorykills give you only 5hp

[halcyon bear]

Rich get richer is pretty broken. Reason I didn't touch it is because I didn't want people to shoot down my UN run for using it. People tend to do that

[wet halo]

Ammo is pretty plentiful in 2016 already

ive never been in a life or death situation if im about to run out

ig its broken if you abuse the hell out of siege mode

but i use ssg gauss and to a lesser extent rocket often so its always been fine

[halcyon bear]

Plus you also have ammo boost which adds on top of that lol

[wet halo]

yeah exactly lol

yk i tried 2016 after eternal in like 2021 dec

and i stopped at foundry cause it felt too sluggish

but after giving it a chance and finishing it i rlly like it

not as fast paced or developed as eternal yeah but still really fun

[halcyon bear]

That's expected. But 2016 is still a masterpiece in it's own right

[polar coral]

Can relate. Just finished eternal and over all I feel like I enjoyed 2016 more. Eternal has you frantically moving and bouncing all over the place, even after two play through I still couldn't get used to all the zipping around you had to do. 2016 just had that familiar pacing and movement of alot of shooters.

[vivid sequoia]

People get uppity if you don’t kneecap yourself for a challenge run like that. Whether or not you use it is entirely up to you.

[elder meadow]

by metro you mean metro from 4a games, they are amazing games one of a kind just like doom eternal and doom 2016

[elder meadow]

Yup. One of my favorite series.

[elder meadow]

oh my god so glad you like the metro games even though they are successful games I still feel they are underrated because they deserve doom level of attention you know what I mean?

[elder meadow]

Still trying to get the good ending in Last Light after all these years 😆

[elder meadow]

what really, well, let me tell you something if you played the metro series in order getting the bad ending seems like you accepted Artyom's fate in last light ending. But once you grind for that good ending every moment you make a good decision in the next game which is Metro exodus really flushes out the character development of Artyom, and finally the ending good or bad makes you feel sad or happy for the character. Really must try to get both endings in both the games.

I got the good endings in both last light and exodus and I am not ashamed to tell that I cried when Miller called Artyom the stubborn son like him that he never had but wished he did. Man the feels 🥲

Yeah, I’ve managed to get both endings in every game but Last Light

[elder meadow]

are you sure I do see this from time to time, most agree that is the art direction in doom 2016 that is better but everything else eternal is a step up in all other categories. Like to support this see the number of enemy variety you face in doom eternal and not to mention the doom dance you do to stagger the demons.

[atomic garnet]

The eternal glory kill is a little cartoonish in my opinion

[elder meadow]

hmm how is a blood punch that smashes demons into a pool of red blood cartoonish, I am trying to understand what you are going for here.

[atomic garnet]

the imp

I dont know why it just feels that way

[elder meadow]

well let us just say that the melee not doing damage like in doom 2016 is awkward there you go how about that?

[atomic garnet]

I haven't played iv only seen thru gameplay clips thou

[elder meadow]

but on the other hand the abilities combos you pull with the blood punch puts eternal again on the top.

[atomic garnet]

Dont have eternal

it took me a while to weapon chain on console

thou myy aim is worse than a disabled amputee

[elder meadow]

If you get the chance play doom eternal on pc do it, by the time you finished the base game and DLC's you will feel that you have played a singleplayer esports game.

[atomic garnet]

my pc cant run it

4gb ram ryzen 3

[elder meadow]

https://tenor.com/view/moment-of-silence-pay-respect-rip-rest-in-peace-bow-gif-15963301

[atomic garnet]

technically I can but I dont have eternal I can play 2016 w/ ps4 remote play

[hexed karma]

i have a question:

[halcyon bear]

Yes?

[elder meadow]

The suspense is killing me

[hexed karma]

Why didn't they create a lounge for French doom fans ?

[snow heron]

Sounds more like a question for the mods then any of us here honestly

[halcyon bear]

Because it's Rip and tear not run away

[untold stirrup]

it is yeah

though I mostly use it because I swap aggressively thus I burn through ammo really quickly

[untold stirrup]

Oh my god you just slaughtered France and their people

[azure pawn]

If doomguy went to France during the invasion there would be no demons there

They’d have all “”retreated”” already

[azure pawn]

The demon’s first target

[tardy smelt]

Based mods

[elder meadow]

I’m getting my butt kicked by the Cyber Demon

[wraith tangle]

keep your distance and single jump over the waves

[heavy quail]

I tried ultra nightmare for the first time last night

That is NOT something to play for fun.

[snow heron]

SSG Gauss Cannon is a pretty effective combo for dealing damage

Try to get in as many Siege Mode shots as you can as well

[wet halo]

well just beat doom 2016 nightmare with 68 deaths lol

gotta bring that down to 0 for UN, looking forward to that

[untold stirrup]

Nightmare is tough as balls, congrats

I think the farthest I've gotten is The Necropolis because I wanted to do the levels no HUD in chronological order

I forgot if I completed the game on Nightmare even or if I did before going no HUD

[dense ore]

https://imgur.com/a/nsLNP9G wtf do I do here

[wet halo]

I believe you have to go back to where the rotating train thing is, and jump up even higher to get to some stairs. from there shoot down the red blinking lights where the elevator platofmr is and you can progress

[wet halo]

ultra nightmare is so so so so much harder than eternal ultra nightmare wow

i died in the elevator gore nest to a random imp fireball from another planet at 55hp

[wraith tangle]

can skip that one with some platforming

[wet halo]

I'm aware, but my goal is to beat UN "as it was intended", as in atleast as far as I can judge what the devs intended to be done

so no arena skipping, but any sort of cheesing is fine

ammo boost basically gives infite BFG when mastered and im going to abuse tf out of that

but no alt f4 or arena skipping

I died like 5 times in Eternal UN before I beat it

but 2016 it seems like I'm gonna die a LOT more

already 9 deaths and not gotten past resource operations, this is gonna take a while

[elder meadow]

i did it on ultra nightmare, 0 deaths and no damage

[wraith tangle]

I don't think they intended un to be beaten lamo

[elder meadow]

;-; i dont get how u people struggle a simple game

[wet halo]

thanks for being humble chief

[wraith tangle]

do you have a video of the zero damage un run

[wet halo]

i played eternal first

[elder meadow]

once i finished it i just deleted it and went back to god of 4

[wet halo]

and it taught me "okay you can get hit but you need to use tools to heal back up"

2016 NM isnt like that, its no damage or you're fucked

[elder meadow]

i played doom classic first

[wet halo]

glory kills barely heal after all, so Im still used to the eternal mindset

[wet halo]

I played ultimate doom and doom 2 first, then eternal for about 2yrs and just started 2016 last week

[elder meadow]

i went from classic to eternal

[wraith tangle]

glory kills kinda kill you more than heal

[wet halo]

yeah exactly, im not saying its bad but its a lot different than eternal

[elder meadow]

eternal was a bit hard but ultra nightmare was super ez

[wet halo]

so my approach is less evasive so im getting hit often

[wet halo]

if you just want us to say you're good you can just say you beat UN no need to say all this bro

[elder meadow]

;-; relax bro

[wraith tangle]

if you find de too easy, try without superweapons, ice, shield, or air control

[elder meadow]

sure i will

[wet halo]

nah he probably does combat shotgun only but beat entire campaign no damage

[wet halo]

come on bro im just tryna beat UN and you're saying "how do people struggle with basic game"

[elder meadow]

sure ill do it this weekend

[wet halo]

ok but regardless, i think im definetly getting better but just need to work on my evasion

[elder meadow]

try moving and shooting

[wet halo]

thanks for the insane tip, didnt try that yet

[elder meadow]

;-;

[wet halo]

ofcourse im moving, but imps still run up and hit me or track my shots

i gotta move in a different pattern than you do in eternal

[elder meadow]

no duh

[wet halo]

i think if i just play a little more ill get the hang of it

confident that in due time ill get past Kadingir and then after that its just smooth sailing rlly

[elder meadow]

its find buddy back in the day i wasnt good either

[wet halo]

mhm

[elder meadow]

"back in my day"

[wraith tangle]

Kad is probably the last major non-boss hurdle except for maybe I am Vega if you play without bfg

[elder meadow]

i like how in eternal he shoot a whole through mars with the bfg 3000

[wet halo]

The bosses were actually the easiest part of the nightmare run

[wraith tangle]

remember to be at least 13 before being on discord

[wet halo]

I beat all 3 first try

[elder meadow]

im 17

[wet halo]

what are you talking about, this man is spitting nothing but facts. I love the part where after using the bfg 3000 the slayer goes to optimus prime and defeats the quakecon of sin

[elder meadow]

bfg 3000 is the best weapon for bosses

[wet halo]

this man only needs 1/3rd of the bfg we do to beat bosses

[halcyon bear]

Oh yeah! My first deathless run is one of my happiest moments in doom

[elder meadow]

yea

[halcyon bear]

Right up there with map 29 doom 2 nightmare

[wet halo]

beating the first eternal dlc ultra nightmare is one of my happiest doom moments

was on VC with a friend and we were both screaming about it lol

that moment is giving me the motivation to beat 2016 UN

[halcyon bear]

It'll be worth it for you

[shut yarrow]

hey I had a question, I play doom on ps4 and wanted to submit some speedruns to speedrun.com, but there's a rule that says fps counter should always be on. that's not an option on ps4 tho, what do I do

[snow heron]

I imagine there might be a specific category for console players.

[shut yarrow]

do u know who I can contact to check

[snow heron]

There isn’t really any one person in particular. First person that does come to to mind though is BloodShot9001

[shut yarrow]

anyway to contact them?

[snow heron]

You could @ them I guess?

[shut yarrow]

ok thanks

[shut yarrow]

@outer sandal

[outer sandal]

You can just submit it. The fps counter if specifically for PC runs. PS4 runs always run at the same fps so not an issue

[shut yarrow]

yay, thanks

[halcyon bear]

Yeah 60fps I believe

Even on pro

[untold stirrup]

Thanks for being humble, fuckhead

[untold stirrup]

0 deaths isn't an achievement because UN deletes your save file after a death anyway, and I'm not gonna believe a full no damage run of 2016

[halcyon bear]

Pretty sure the chick's full of it

[snow heron]

And I beat DOOM Eternal blind folded with my toes, on inverted controls on UN, yeah right

But that aside a video of this would be pretty insane to see

[torpid bronze]

me when im in a being annoying competition and this guy is my opponent

[twilit ingot]

I got the chaingun on the nintendo switch :D

[twin ore]

Hi. Any of you guys still play multiplayer on 2016?

[elder meadow]

yea see i dont know how to video record on my pc

[snow heron]

If your on Windows I think you can press Windows Key+G to open up the Xbox Game Bar which has screen recording stuff built into it. That or download the Nvidia GeForce Experience as that also has a good screen recorder. There both free and super simple to use.

[elder meadow]

;-;

[untold stirrup]

`just use windows + G

[shell garden]

I Need help

[analog scarab]

🐶

[shell garden]

Please

How i can play Doom 2016 multiplayer

[analog scarab]

i have no idea sorry

[shell garden]

But

Aww

[wet halo]

Got past it, and I'm starting to respect UN more

I did originally feel like it was full of bullshit becasuse compared to eternal UN it is really punishing to get hit

but it seems here being strategic with cover and dodging does reward you really well because it was actually a breeze once I kept in mind where enemies are

I still feel like sometimes the lack of ways to replenish HP sucks but I'm getting better at it

[wet halo]

p sure that dude was just baiting he knew what he was saying was bs lol

"bfg 3000" "ultra nightmare no deaths"

[wet halo]

I wish you could skip Hayden's dialogue at the end of resource operations

because I feel like I'm going to be playing this level a lot

[elder meadow]

Can’t get past this gd CyberDemon

[wraith tangle]

keep your distance

[abstract isle]

Have you tried shooting it until it dies?

Without being shot yourself

[harsh blade]

a way to cheese the cyberdemon is if you have the mastery for micro missiles unlocked you can hit the cyberdemon with the bfg and unload missiles onto it while its stunned

does loads of damage

[elder meadow]

Finally beat that gd CyberDemon