doom-3

[scenic stratus]

Fr

Easiest fight

Hardest fight imo is maledict on original doom 3 roe

[livid wharf]

If you don’t blow the Soul Cube charge immediately before the boss fight

It’s a lot tougher if you did

I made that mistake the first time

[slim willow]

Maledict on Nightmare is the hardest

[honest lynx]

Oh yeah. I went into that fight with 12 health lol

[scenic stratus]

Doom 3 2 when

[half plank]

never

but, you can cry with us

[cloud crown]

I got pretty good use out of them

Especially later in the game

[livid wharf]

Yeah the grenades are a good source of damage with some practice

[vernal crest]

well, granted, she was a mini boss, like marauder

[silent kettle]

Hold for one second and throw it or just throw it at an demon

[latent ridge]

https://imgur.com/a/iv6wiHP

[slim willow]

Sheesh

[honest lynx]

https://imgur.com/a/bFNhvcc

@vernal crest

[vernal crest]

R.I.P. Sargent Kelly, his boss may of have been short due to the original plans getting "lost in transmission", but he shall be remembered

[honest lynx]

Really cool design though

[vernal crest]

yeah, although he was originally going to be crucified onto a demon which would've been fused with a tank

[livid wharf]

I honestly like the final design better than that personally

[scenic stratus]

How come 6-7 rockets after soulcube? It's always been soulcube and 5 rockets. And you don't even have to run around. You just stand in front of Sarge.

[honest lynx]

I believe one rocket hit his bfg projectile

[scenic stratus]

It's the fact. But given this — it's still only 5 rockets and not more.

Because, I gather, he gets damaged with a blast from his own bfg.

In general — that's how things are for me in original Doom3 (2004) and Dhewm3.

[honest lynx]

It seems it was 5 rockets. I miss the last 2 and hit with a third shot while I fall

[scenic stratus]

gotcha

[honest lynx]

Pretty funny because I was falling to my death haha

[scenic stratus]

😐

[sharp trail]

627

[scenic stratus]

I wonder... but how is it possible to miss one? lol
If you just press and hold fire button — all 5 reach the boss and he is downed.
Really no need for maneuvering. Stand still & shoot.

You need to re-play the level now, before too late 🌻

and provide us with a better version of that gameplay's fragment

[honest lynx]

I mean the point was me falling to my death and teleporting to the top when the cut scene happened

[scenic stratus]

aaaah!

only now have I noticed this

sry 😄

[midnight thistle]

After playing doom 3 the soul cube has to be my favorite weapon ever

it looks so awesome

I just finished site 3 and I’d say hell is the hardest one so far, it really throws a lot of shit at you

when I start playing classic doom again I’m gonna be running back to see if shit teleported behind me, happens a ton in doom 3

[slim willow]

I think i just heard the woman screaming sounds from Doom 3 (from Hell i guess) reused in Eternal

Or i'm just hearing shit up

[terse tundra]

This game is a pain to play on vanilla version, I could even say I really hate the retail version on every console.

The game was hand crafted for mods like Skyrim

[versed estuary]

[half plank]

funny

[livid wharf]

??????
I have had a blast with the original PC release. Mods are fun though

[half plank]

every console? you played the original xbox version?

[terse tundra]

Yeah I tried it for Xbox, Xbox 360, Switch, oh yeah PC. Xbox is just feels like a weird horror game you'd find on Steam, it's very much not Doom though. The other versions which are better imo, the pacing just feels bad. Literally I tried playing it twice and I just get bored of it.

[half plank]

Ah man you really did. I wanted to make a dad tier joke.

It definitely is different. And nobody is forcing you to like it. But do know the cool people like it.

[terse tundra]

Plus the stock sound effects are very much mixed, some like it others hate it (It feels strange tbh, especially since the shotgun feels wrong like someone switched gun sound effects)

[half plank]

Have you played Quake 4? Has some meaty gun sounds and an actual OST.

[terse tundra]

I never tried the Quake games, I plan to one day in my bucket list of games

[half plank]

Do know Quake really isn't a "series" it's mostly very very loosely related games that all share a name.

Quake 1 is lovecraft gothic and satanic. 2 and 4 are sci fi horror. 3 is a multiplayer deathmatch game with elements of both. It's nuts

2 also has a metal soundtrack that goes hard

[terse tundra]

Interesting, i'll check out the first game soon then

[half plank]

1's is mostly entirely ambient tracks by trent fucking reznor

its weird

[half plank]

I like it. And luckily for you, it's not Doom 3.

Quake 4 is basically Doom 3 but better.

Quake 1 is nothing like 4

It's an interesting ride. Have fun lol

[terse tundra]

Normal Doom 3 is boring but not the worst shooter i've played. That has to be easily Duke Nukem Forever release version. They literally shat my favorite FPS series.

[half plank]

oh man dnf is something else

[rose field]

quake 1 is pretty damn fun to speedrun

[half plank]

duke's humor was entirely shot

[honest lynx]

Hopefully the Duke makes a comeback

[half plank]

at this point they should reboot it and decide what the series should ultimately be. a lot of duke games are paltformers, including the first 2. but 3d is usually what people think of when you say "duke nukem."

maybe a mix of both?

maybe embrace the "doom clone" thing and blatantly rip off eternal in a fun way? who knows. i just want duke back

[slim willow]

Duke Nukem Forever

[little raven]

"Did you think i was gone forever"

[terse tundra]

I wish he was

Gearbox literally dug up his grave and took a big one down his throat

[cloud crown]

Better write forever out of canon lol

[honest lynx]

I'm sure they will hahahah

[scenic stratus]

Duke Nukem 3

[scenic stratus]

🕕 🕑 🕖

🕒

[scenic stratus]

wouldn't unlock any door/locker

3

[versed estuary]

627 would open Lab Door A

[scenic stratus]

I finished Doom 2016 today — didn't really enjoy a damn thing.
Words cannot explain to what an extent DooM 3 is better in every way with it's "old graphics".

In 2016 you don't interact with computers. It's decidedly lacking puzzles Doom3 has.
2016 is such a stupid arcade "shooter".. I begin to disdain it. Can't really keep my temper in check, I have half the mind to tell the world how 2016 sucks at literally everything — and its, sorta, "modern" graphics doesn't even make it any better.

[honest lynx]

You should try doom 3 vr some day if you get a chance. Really is amazing

[scenic stratus]

My friend owns Oculus Quest 2 with an android source port for D3.
After completing levels up to EnPro (inclusive) he had to give in and stop. Way too scary.

[slim willow]

Based

[scenic stratus]

Based

[half plank]

me watching the entire server turn against the new games

[honest lynx]

Still love 2016. Think it's one of the best games made. But doom 3 will always be a little bit more special for me

[honest lynx]

Yeah the hate is pretty dumb

[scenic stratus]

Some of it yea

[honest lynx]

Doom always been about action or arena carnage. I'd probably just suggest another series if you want a game with more environmental interaction

[half plank]

I don't think the new games are perfect shooters but I'm sorta done with the pure hate.

I've replayed Eternal like 5 times Nightmare 100% at least and it's just good fun.

[honest lynx]

New doom turning into doom 3 haha

[half plank]

Doom 3 II

Return of Betruger's Face Line

[honest lynx]

The hate can be a good thing. It means the people that aren't fans will eventually piss off

[half plank]

[scenic stratus]

And his laughs

“You will never find the thing you seek it is trapped in hell forever”

[honest lynx]

I hope when my soul cube gets here it gets pinned to the Channel. It looks amazing

[vernal crest]

https://tenor.com/view/i-need-it-spongebob-spongebob-squarepants-gif-4883506

A funny thing is that Doom 4 (Yep I'm calling it 4 instead of 2016) and Eternal take a lot of inspiration from Doom 3

[livid wharf]

I want to make a Doom 3 mod campaign but I still haven’t gotten around to it. The big thing I want to do differently from the base game is fights with way more demons at once. Maybe some minor weapon tweaks and I have some ideas for new demon types but increasing the scale of fights is the main thing I want to do

[scenic stratus]

Gamma labs custom level is pretty cool

[vernal crest]

Betruger is a funny old man, telling you that you can't find the thing but tells you where the thing is

[half plank]

i dont think he expected the marine to survive hell and delta labs

or any of it for that matter

[scenic stratus]

it's one of the best games made

lmao

for kids maybe (judging by the plot)

[vernal crest]

Definitely didn't

[latent ridge]

it really is

2016 is banger

[sharp trail]

I personally love all official doom games. Each of them is unique and badass in its own way.

[scenic stratus]

and I had to turn the stupid in-game music off with voice as well to avoid hearing stupid monologues targeting kids' imagination

[latent ridge]

average prboom user

[scenic stratus]

i no speak memes, pardon

[honest lynx]

Nah it basically saved the series. Brought back the fast paced old school shooter series. Wasn't for 2016 you'd still be playing games like cod or shooting around fucking walls and taking cover. The soundtracks amazing and the gameplay was something people didn't see for a long time. Hating on it just makes you look kinda dumb honestly

Like I said if you want to interact with computers and take npcs out on a date go play an rpg

[scenic stratus]

Besides the word “hate” - there are several more ones with a subtler meaning.

[honest lynx]

It's doom no one really came for the story. Lores cool but I never cared to much about it

[scenic stratus]

When I say 2016 looks a little stupid, it doesn’t express hate, but kinda despair rather.

[honest lynx]

That's fine. I'm sure we both have games you like and I wouldn't. At least we both love doom 3

[scenic stratus]

shooting imps in the game is a torture, and this type of enemies is found in abundance

Hayden is probably the weirdest character in the plot. Especially with his last monologue.

It could be a good lego game, of course.

[honest lynx]

Yeah story usually comes second. I've been playing doom my whole life and the doom 3 uac vibe and classic combat made me extremely happy

[scenic stratus]

same about d3

[slim willow]

The Hell missions are peak Doom 3

If someone shits on Doom 3 for being "slow" they should hop on Lost Mission

[versed estuary]

The hell missions are peak doom

Imo I have yet to see any rendition of hell look better in any game

[slim willow]

Eternal's Hell came somewhat close imo but did not cut it for me

[versed estuary]

Eternal in general got some very nice environmental design

But I think doom 3s captures what a normal humans mind would see and comprehend after seeing hell

[vernal crest]

I'd say that, as great as it is, Lost Mission's hell looked too organized for, well, hell, but it's still amazing

[west fable]

i love massacaring in the first level

[scenic stratus]

mental disorders

[vernal crest]

https://tenor.com/view/what-gif-18120069

[honest lynx]

I'm guessing he means shooting all the scientists lol

[vernal crest]

well, the Doom Marine always "decide||d||s to kill more", it never said that he was talking about demons only

[slim willow]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/310529390306000896/978419677002879037/doom3uacpride.jpg

💀

[vernal crest]

UAC supports LGBTQ+, it's 2145 after all :D

||and Swann is their council after all ||

[sharp trail]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/832527551154094150/981466329376751657/uac_pride.png

UAC cultists attack!

[scenic stratus]

[vernal crest]

[slim willow]

[scenic stratus]

he would be using fist on the first level

[honest lynx]

I mean in general. Guessing he likes to show them mercy and shootingthem before the demons get them.Not like their hiding places would last

[frosty holly]

Love it!

[slim willow]

I feel like the pistol and shotgun are guns you don't need to worry about ammo with in this game

There's a lot of shells

[honest lynx]

I barely have issues with the machine gun also

[slim willow]

I run out of ammo with it

[scenic stratus]

I only use it to kill spiders

[honest lynx]

I prefer it to the chaingun by a mile

[honest lynx]

You really shouldn't. It's one of the most versatile weapons in the game. High accuracy and speed your shots go where you want them

[slim willow]

Pistol is good for trites

[scenic stratus]

I barley even use the pistol

[slim willow]

I've killed a mancubus and hellknight with the pistol before lol

[cloud crown]

union aroace corporation

[half plank]

lol

[viral briar]

The Shotgun is absolutely good for heavy demons.

[sharp trail]

Yeah, if you hit successfully, you can kill a hell knight with just three shots

[slim willow]

Would modding the ssg into the base campaign break the balance?

[honest lynx]

Absolutely

[dull wigeon]

D3 Hell Knight is a kind of sexy

[vernal crest]

exactly

||not as much as Revenants but yeah :P||

[livid wharf]

Well yeah Revenants are famous for boning

[rose field]

[fleet citrus]

i'm about to get political

[slim willow]

Why

[slim willow]

Based

[slim willow]

[vernal crest]

https://tenor.com/view/dancing-skeleton-dancing-skeleton-gif-gif-25101058

[honest lynx]

While roe had a bit more action than horror doom 3 base campaign focused more on the thrill so engagements would just be absolutely melted with the ssg

[slim willow]

It was a mistake to not have it originally

[honest lynx]

They would have had to alter the ssg in that case

[livid wharf]

Or just throw more guys at you like they should have in the first place

[honest lynx]

Exactly

[half plank]

I would pay full price for a Doom 3 expansion that's the length of Doom 3's campaign with the design choices of RoE and Lost Mission.

[terse tundra]

https://youtu.be/1b4x9lpF8K4

Anyone try this mod?

It looks janky but it does have fan made cutscenes

[slim willow]

1:10 is hilarious

[scenic stratus]

Bro just look his head

[latent ridge]

yes, its really cool

i played it on my phone

[vernal crest]

anyone else think that it would've been kinda funny if Betruger actually said something to the Doom Marine if he chose to kill Larry (the scientist who was trapped in the chamber)?

[untold yacht]

generic

i see you

[teal widget]

Hi

[scenic stratus]

anyone knows WADs for classic doom replicating Doom 3 ?

[latent ridge]

doom 3 weapons rip

or the d64ifier

[slim willow]

Is there classic weapon pose mod for Doom 3

[acoustic acorn]

is doom3 mostly linear?

[teal widget]

Maybe

[half plank]

Yeah it really is.

[livid wharf]

Does a good enough job of not calling attention to the linearity though.

[honest lynx]

Absolutely

[slim willow]

[scenic stratus]

Betrollger when

[devout pier]

As far as I know only on DOOM BFA(BFG/2019 source port)

[atomic dawn]

should I get doom 3? I've seen mixed reviews for it so idk

[vernal crest]

yeah get it, the OG version, it's a good game but some people think that "slightly changing the formula makes it a different game"

[atomic dawn]

thank

[vernal crest]

https://tenor.com/view/doom-fist-pump-toy-action-figure-fist-bump-gif-23659870

[acoustic acorn]

I'm considering playing it but I'm worried that I'd get lost and hope that the bfg is cool.

[vernal crest]

if you get lost there are always walkthrough's

and although BFG Edition is ok, I'd recommend getting the OG game. cheaper and it's the best way to play it in general

||BFG Edition made some dumb changes and Kelly looks like his existence is painful||

[honest lynx]

You should! You'll love it!

I'd recommend og until you decide to play nightmare mode. Which is the best mode. The light and ammo increase in bfg just makes nightmare mode a better experience because it suits the fast paced gameplay it requires

[acoustic acorn]

I'd have whatever version I get on the xbox. NM might make it a bit more challenging cuz I hear that it's otherwise pretty easy. Ugh the codes are gonna be annoying.

[honest lynx]

You'll have to play veteran first. But yeah. I know for a fact you'll prefer nightmare

[scenic stratus]

I think the Doom 3 I got off of Xbox game pass for pc is the BFG Edition

[honest lynx]

It is

[scenic stratus]

Ah.

Yeah, it is. The flashlight isn’t a separate tool/weapon, it’s actually part of the suit.

So far the game isn’t that bad, it’s pretty good.

[honest lynx]

It gets better as you go

[scenic stratus]

Yeah

[latent ridge]

get dhewm3

it only works with the OG version of doom 3

not the bfg edition

[honest lynx]

He doesn't have the OG version

[slim willow]

I also have that version

It's scuffed

[honest lynx]

I'd recommend og if you want the original slow paced doom 3 as it was intended. But if you want a faster more challenging experience bfg on nightmare is the way to go

[acoustic acorn]

I'm not confident that my lil laptop can play it, so I'll do what I can on xb

does RoE come with whatever version is on xbox or is that paid dlc?

[honest lynx]

Lost missions and roe are included

[acoustic acorn]

is it clear how to unlock or some secret thing

[slim willow]

https://youtu.be/-0JVPraeMls This is so clunky i love it

[vernal crest]

wish I could understand what the voice is saying

||also, imp riding a pinky is now something I wish happened in the original||

[devout pier]

For any BFG related releases of Doom 3 use DOOM BFA

[vernal crest]

What does the A stand for

[scenic stratus]

Ass

[vernal crest]

https://tenor.com/view/i-never-expected-that-hinduman-graham-hadfield-smite-pittsburgh-knights-gif-17031394

[devout pier]

Anniversary

[scenic stratus]

[B]elphegor [F]earFactory [A]nathema

[acoustic acorn]

do headshots matter

[honest lynx]

Yes. And the machine gun is your friend for that

[latent ridge]

point blank shotgun headshot

[honest lynx]

Machine gun is definitely the best for head shots. I wouldn't bother with shotgun headshots

Also @acoustic acorn fast swap is very doable in 3. A good combo is machine gun shotgun

[viral briar]

It was narrating what originally was the text screen of Knee-Deep in the Dead.

[vernal crest]

Oh ok

[safe hare]

I could make it a 3d fanart

[vernal crest]

Lol, if you feel like it go ahead

[slim willow]

Imagine if you could actually use the scope on the rocket launcher

[vernal crest]

wum?

[slate gulch]

Zoom exists

[little raven]

zoom is like looking intently

[scenic stratus]

Scope would be better

[vernal crest]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/661971660345180172/983386803606278154/A_little_bit_of_comedy_for_Dr._Malcom_Betruger.gif

[rose field]

imp

[vernal crest]

||we oughta get an emoji with the Doom Marine-||

[slim willow]

[supple gull]

I wonder if the imp is also a pimp

[scenic stratus]

Doom 3 imp do be imping

[vernal crest]

Yes

[midnight thistle]

Doom 3 imps on the way to appear infront of you in every room

I be checking behind me every second lmao

[vernal crest]

they really like the Doom Maine I guess

[midnight thistle]

[ivory zinc]

https://tenor.com/view/troll-pilled-gif-19289988

[scenic fossil]

Why the f is a grenade a seperate weapon

[vernal crest]

weapon is a weapon

[scenic fossil]

me shooting a zombie three/four times in the head with a pistol and only then killing it
and then proceeding to hit another one two times with the flashlight and killing it

weapon balance

[scenic stratus]

I hate it when I throw a grenade and it bounces back to me

[slate gulch]

I love when I throw it like a Mario fireball into the enemy. Grenade bowling.

[vernal crest]

2145 sounds like fun

[honest lynx]

Don't use the pistol

Who the fuck uses the pistol after the intro lol

[hushed abyss]

I use the pistol sometimes for the added challenge/fun element

[versed estuary]

Fun vs trites

[livid wharf]

I use the pistol on zombies to save ammo for my real weapons

Incidentally I do wish that the pistol wasn’t garbage and had uses outside of killing filler enemies

[versed estuary]

The story of every doom

[vernal crest]

https://tenor.com/view/the-truth-hurts-truth-hurts-the-truth-truth-reality-gif-17959482

[rose field]

isn't the pistol decent in 2016 or am i wrong

[versed estuary]

I would like them to do what rage did

[versed estuary]

Lmao nope it’s garbage

[rose field]

damn

[versed estuary]

Still only good vs fodder like imps

That’s it

[versed estuary]

Rage has ammo types

Something to this effect could make a future pistol. More viable

For instance finding an upgrade for more gunpowder filled rounds. Fmj rounds. Or a mode that at the vastly increased cost of ammo. You gain a very fast 5 round burst or something

In rage the pistol was always decent enough to begin with, but the ammo types brought it on top

[livid wharf]

The Doom 1/2 pistol is bad but at least has a niche (pistol start). The way I’d rework the Doom 3 pistol would be to make it a revolver with 6 round clip and a lengthy reload time but something like triple the damage per shot. At least double the damage

[honest lynx]

No

Vr pistol makes sense because of the changes but base pistol is definitely not fun or challenging

Yall on some crazy pills

[livid wharf]

I don’t use the base pistol except for very weak enemies. That’s not me challenging myself or making the pistol fun, that’s me being stingy with my shells, clips, etc

[honest lynx]

If you want a challenge just play nightmare. The pistol sound does have more beef now though but I'm still not a fan

[slim willow]

Trite kills

[honest lynx]

Just machine gun them or shotgun. It's faster

Pistol on them is just weird

Maybe I've been playing nightmare to much but I don't have time to pick them off one by one while I lose health

[vernal crest]

shotgun kinda seems like an overkill

[dreamy mica]

I think using guns is too powerful and unfair, I’ll just fist my way to victory

[vernal crest]

the mighty fists of the Doom Marine

[dreamy mica]

Ah yes

[scenic stratus]

The shotgun

[livid wharf]

I just decided that machine gun and shotgun on trites, zombies and the like is a waste of ammo whereas it doesn’t matter if I run out of pistol ammo

[acoustic acorn]

nope. I never use it after getting shotgun tbh. Since 2016 doesn't have "pistol start" so to speak, you're never in a situation where you need it. It does have infinite ammo which I guess is nice. But you have a chainsaw. doom64's is the best mainline game's pistol imo

[vernal crest]

[half plank]

[gilded wyvern]

im still baffled as to how they fucked up the shotgun

[vernal crest]

here's an answer: they didn't, get gud

[honest lynx]

Shotgun is definitely fantastic

[scenic stratus]

Reloading doesn't make sense

[gilded wyvern]

I KNOW

[scenic stratus]

Im putting in one round

Then there's more than one rounds

Ah well

I'm still a bit scared to play doom 3

Because it's a darker scarier doom

[honest lynx]

You can still shoot it while one round is put in and repeat.

[scenic stratus]

Anyways super shotgun

On shit

The lost soul introduction

Jesus it came from her head

[gilded wyvern]

theres a super shotgun?

[honest lynx]

It's introduced in roe

[scenic stratus]

resident of evil

[scenic stratus]

I fucking hate the lost souls

[scenic stratus]

Resurrection of evil

At least they’re easier to deal with when you get the grabber

[gilded wyvern]

wow i clearly have not played enough doom 3

[scenic stratus]

DLC

I have BFG edition

[gilded wyvern]

i dont like the bfg edition

[slate gulch]

I continue to be baffled by the decision to make you faster and doubling the ammo you pick up but removing hundreds of enemies from the game

[gilded wyvern]

not to mention the attachment of the flashlight which basicly is just a turn off for me

[versed estuary]

The doom 3 shotgun isn’t bad. You are just using it wrong

[scenic stratus]

Hey I can play doom 1 and 2 made for modern PC ig

[gilded wyvern]

yeah thats how oom eternal works

[gilded wyvern]

figured out what game yet?

[scenic stratus]

In doom BFG edition?

[slate gulch]

Yes

[scenic stratus]

Oh

They probably tried learning from old doom 3 and tried improving it

Like some people must've complained about that

People were complaining about the doom 3 flashlight and now people are complaining about the bfg edition flashlight

[honest lynx]

People just like to complain

[scenic stratus]

Oh yeah I complain about the doom 3 flashlight

Like I get it

Doom 3 is supposed to be dark

But why is the flashlight

Dark as well

[midnight thistle]

Damnit

Caverns area 1 is infuriating

the falling tiles

[pure orchid]

Стоит брать дум 3?

[scenic stratus]

да

я рекомендую нормальное издание

[acoustic acorn]

is the BFG cool? The only gameplay that I've seen showed the bfg not even killing a h*ck knight

[honest lynx]

It'll melt. Just don't hold the charge to long

Also has sick lore

[acoustic acorn]

the lore is boom boom.

[honest lynx]

https://youtu.be/Y7vV1UtvnC8

[honest lynx]

^

[acoustic acorn]

it'd be my last official doom game to beat on whatever I think is The challenge for that game(in this case, it'd be nightmare)...well...doom rpg but who cares... But also, I keep getting lost every time I try d3

[scenic stratus]

Aw man I really wanna try the Xbox port of doom 3

[honest lynx]

I have it ! I lost my x box power cord though

[half plank]

Pretty sure if I remember right it's the same cord the Xbox one uses.

[honest lynx]

Actually?

[half plank]

I think so. I don't remember. I don't have the Xbox One hooked up anymore.

[vernal crest]

am I the only one that enjoys the PDA vids, despite not understanding much of what they're saying

[honest lynx]

Nope ! Loved them. Always reminded me of starship troopers

[scenic stratus]

I like the PDA in general

You can use it for codes

Even though I can't hear em

[vernal crest]

I also find it funny how Doom Marine can just read someone else's PDA before the invasion

[scenic stratus]

Is the character in resurrection of evil different

[vernal crest]

in which way do you mean?

[scenic stratus]

Like who is the character

[vernal crest]

well, just some older dude who's an Marine Engineer, who is fine with using souls and doesn't have much of a braincells

I can give a few positives about him but they're not gonna outweigh the negatives

[scenic stratus]

Does it take place after doom 3

[vernal crest]

yeah, 16 months after the invasion

[scenic stratus]

What were they doing down there in the first place?

[vernal crest]

forgot exactly but they were there due to some readings of a signal, plus I would've find it stranger if they didn't actually re-visit the place, it's a company after all

[scenic stratus]

Yeah

I think lost mission takes place during doom 3 right?

[vernal crest]

yeah, 6 hours after the invasion started

[unborn mantle]

waiting for beth to port beth launcher doom 3 to steam

[scenic stratus]

Was it bravo team

[vernal crest]

it also shows the DarkStar (the ship from the intro) rescuing the LM Bravo team member, which would also mean that they could've also found some other survivors. But the intro of ROE states that the Marine was the only survivor, so the ship probably got shot down or something

[scenic stratus]

You survived the ambush

[vernal crest]

yeah, the dude (presuming it's a man of course) only got knocked out and dragged to where.... I guess where they put bodies to eat them or something

[scenic stratus]

By the zombies?

Bruh

[vernal crest]

well there are other demons that have been shown to eat, although minus the zombies the only ones I can think of are Imp's, Vagary and the pinky in the cutscene of the alpha demo

[scenic stratus]

Oh yeah the pinky in doom 3

Jesus it's legs

I can tell

Doom 3 wanted their monsters to look scary

[vernal crest]

yeah ||and yet the Revenants look sexy with their transparent skin ||

[scenic stratus]

And how the monsters had an introduction scene

[vernal crest]

yeah, with Doom 4 and Eternal had those cool introduction scenes

[scenic stratus]

Yeah

The imp

Say goodbye to a brown imp

[scenic stratus]

i want to erase d2016 and eternal from my brain

[scenic stratus]

It was imps

Specifically the two legged ones

[vernal crest]

wait there are Imp's who have more legs?!

[vernal crest]

Doom 4 and Eternal are great games though, even taking inspirations from Doom 3 itself

[half reef]

y e s

[scenic stratus]

yes

the ones who stand on two legs

you encounter them in hell

and the standard four legged one

[half reef]

i just depicted realistic imps (2 legged and 4 legged) in my head and, ughhhh.....

[scenic stratus]

you encounter them alot

[vernal crest]

https://tenor.com/view/number-six-gif-13380438

[half reef]

6 LEGGED IMPS!? DEAR GOD...

[vernal crest]

they're faster now

[half reef]

NO NO NO

[scenic stratus]

how much shotgun ammo

[vernal crest]

they're gonna bring that hell on earth

[vernal crest]

what do you mean?

[scenic stratus]

to kill it

[vernal crest]

one or two

[scenic stratus]

what about 8 legs?

[vernal crest]

I can just see them chasing after me xD

[half reef]

STOP IT FUCKING STOP IT

YOU ARE GONNA SCAR MY INNER DEMON SLAYING CHILD WITH THIS SHIT

[scenic stratus]

crawling around on the walls and ceiling jumping down to kill you

[vernal crest]

the child needs to learn not to fear em

[half reef]

https://tenor.com/view/nope-the-office-dont-like-that-shaking-my-head-gif-20238828

[scenic stratus]

it would do that if you look up whilst on the ceiling

[vernal crest]

wish that was in the game now

[scenic stratus]

the introduction cutscene would be

[half reef]

how could it when the body fears imps with more then 2 legs too?

[scenic stratus]

it grabbing someone up on the ceiling then we'd see gore come down

[vernal crest]

then it can't slay demons

[vernal crest]

https://tenor.com/view/thatll-be-kind-of-cool-that-will-be-cool-plunger-thats-cool-thatll-be-great-gif-16768195

[half reef]

it isnt scared of anything else

[scenic stratus]

no

[vernal crest]

https://tenor.com/view/doom-doom-eternal-doom-crossing-doomguy-double-barrel-gif-22202729

[scenic stratus]

he looks funny

only good thing is his body is fully covered with suit

in eternal you have bare arms in …. outer space ???
lmao wtf

sry, i don’t understand arcade games with elements of shooter

[vernal crest]

the Marine has his head and arms exposed, and older Doom games also have DoomGuy's arms and chest exposed

[versed estuary]

The bare arms is what throws him off and not the fact he ventures into literal hell

[vernal crest]

and the fact that the Doom Slayer is a demi god so, I don't think lack of oxygen would affect him, or something

[scenic stratus]

Yeah in doom 3

He has his head and arms exposed

[vernal crest]

apparently, as seen in the Alpha, he was meant to wear the helmet

[scenic stratus]

So going out on the surface of Mars could kill you

[vernal crest]

welp, it makes sense why he needed so much oxygen

[scenic stratus]

Cause he was no demigod

He was a new recruit

[vernal crest]

and yet he can punch things so hard they disappear
while the Slayer basically has baby punches in 4 and Eternal (and was stronger in the classic games when he was a regular human)

I just find it kinda funny

[scenic stratus]

Oh yeah

I hate how all the demons fade away into ash

Sometimes

[honest lynx]

I agree... would rather have the bodies pile up

[scenic stratus]

Much more bloody and gruesome more like doom

[honest lynx]

I mean doom 3 have plenty of gruesome

[vernal crest]

yeah
||"The UAC takes pride in it's safety" looks at the entire base covered in blood and body parts||

[livid wharf]

IIRC there’s a line of code that you can remove to make the bodies not disappear

I think they made the bodies disappear to keep the game from having performance issues, but that shouldn’t be a problem on modern hardware

[honest lynx]

I do like it when the demons burn away though

[vernal crest]

well some enemies were cut cuz of the performance issues

[vernal crest]

https://tenor.com/view/yee-yeedinasour-dinasour-gif-4930781

[livid wharf]

I think I’d like to play with bodies sticking around next campaign playthrough

[scenic stratus]

in reality his chest would explode in outer space (eternal)

[scenic stratus]

in d3 he is limited to indoors, rarely walks on mars surface between labs

[scenic stratus]

the concept of demigod in doom makes the whole game uninteresting

[livid wharf]

The Doom series is inherently ridiculous. That’s kind of the point. We’re talking about games where a Mars science base is being invaded by demons and are fought off by a lone space marine with a shotgun. I actually agree that the idea of a mortal man facing the demons is more interesting than that of a demigod but that’s aesthetic and not enough to ruin the whole thing

[vernal crest]

yeah, and a regular man instead of a demigod does rise up some tension (TAG spoilers:)||and in the ending of TAG2 the Slayer does lose his demigod abilities, which means that when he appears in the next game he wouldn't have all those cool abilities and might not be feared by hell, or even regular humans which is good||

[livid wharf]

Anyway complaining that Doomguy’s suit wouldn’t protect him in space is like complaining that the cybernetics in Robocop are implausible: you’re not technically wrong, but it’s so thoroughly beside the point that you’re being kind of silly to care about it

[honest lynx]

They both serve a purpose. One with surviva actionl horror the other 80s 90s action power fantasy. They both scratch an itch

[vernal crest]

Doom 3 is more of an action horror really, I'm no expert but I know that survival horrors usually leave you defenseless and running away from threats

[livid wharf]

Right. Horror as a genre is about having a protagonist who is distinctly not in control of the situation. Doom 3 has horror aesthetic but you’re always in control of whatever is going on

[vernal crest]

it's more on the "disturbing" side of horror rather than "scary", horror is also about disturbance, there are even horror games that don't have any scares but if you pay attention it's quite disturbing

[honest lynx]

Survival as in you're trying to survive

You are a lone survivor. Which is why I called it a action horror survival story

[vernal crest]

then that would technically apply to almost every video game

[honest lynx]

Where in classic and new doom is all about action and a power fantasy

[honest lynx]

Not at all

It's shown several times in doom 3 that you're way over your head and definitely not prepared for this situation.

You survive through luck and pure skill. I would say there is a action element. But doom 3 definitely was focused on horror

Sad Andy https://imgur.com/a/QDW85QJ

Didn't work on the game sure. But he knows video games.

[livid wharf]

The thing about being in over your head doesn’t translate to the game itself. You can kill everything you come across pretty reliably, which is the polar opposite.

Whether you’re in over your head storywise doesn’t matter

[honest lynx]

Not on nightmare lol, and you have to remember in 2004 this was it. The thing that really showed what a horror genre could be. Since then it has been improved . But for the time it was the peak

Sure bfg threw the survival aspect out the window. But you have to sit back and think for a second why a flashlight was added and why it could only be used while not holding a weapon

https://imgur.com/a/TNIQQNZ

Sure it doesn't fit survival horror now... but it did back then.

I feel if the original idea came out where you had limited ammo plus a stealth mechanic.. it would fit modern standards better

[livid wharf]

Here’s the problem: combat is a viable strategy for every enemy encounter. That’s fundamentally incompatible with horror as a genre. Horror isn’t defined by being scary (that’s way too subjective, like defining comedy by being funny) but is about a power dynamic and relying on suspense for tension. Doom 3 uses high pressure combat that basically always gives you a way to win through killing for tension- that’s a very action game thing to do.

[honest lynx]

The definition of horror survival fits doom 3 other than the ammo deprivation and health. Although I'd argue armor is useless.

Which is why I prefer nightmare to begin with. Increases tension. Speeds up gameplay. And makes fights more intense and honestly frightening.

And I'm afraid if the definition of the game is survival horror and John Romero thinks so too I'll have to agree. But you are right. Something like RE definitely fits the bill better

[acoustic acorn]

it's a puzzle cuz I get lost.

[honest lynx]

Oh you'll learn it like the back of your hand eventually haha

[acoustic acorn]

I did say that I got lost in 2016 for a while and well, did eventually do UN. But...idk

[honest lynx]

At first it'll look like hallway after hallway but eventually you'll notice all the differences

[slim willow]

Quake 4 is somewhat of an action horror

Atleast with it being gorier than Doom 3

[kindred bolt]

Tweaker is the coolest menu music I’ve ever heard

[scenic stratus]

What’s tweaker

[half plank]

Tweaker is the band

[scenic stratus]

“Crazy frog isn’t the song

It’s the band”

-Batman

[scenic stratus]

Batman said that?

[vernal crest]

dunno, then again I'm no fan so....

[livid wharf]

Considering how weird the 60s show and silver age comics sometimes got, I actually wouldn’t be surprised

[gilded wyvern]

its a horror game because not only does health and ammo basically not exist, seeing that health counter dangerously close to 0 is sure to strike fear into anyone

[vernal crest]

the scariest part about Doom 3 is the fact that the bathrooms don't have a door stall

[acoustic acorn]

sharing is caring

[vernal crest]

LMAO

[slate gulch]

Theres health and ammo everywhere

[livid wharf]

Yeah. Doom 3 is insanely generous with resources

[versed estuary]

I can’t wait to play the original doom 3 soonish

[livid wharf]

If you’re running low on ammo, you’re probably overrelying on one weapon and have excess ammunition for your others. Resurrection of Evil is noticeably more stringent and it’s for the better imo since it requires you to be a bit more careful with ammo

[vernal crest]

and most important thing: flashlight is a weapon :D

[scenic stratus]

Yea I do that to my plasma gun

I love the plasma gun

[vernal crest]

yeah it's a good gun, especially the sounds

[honest lynx]

I have my hard copy as a kid. Still went back to bfg because I'm used to the nightmare pacing now

[dull wigeon]

https://youtu.be/uXkYpyyldKM

Except for the Doom 64 bfg, the D3 one is unmatched in terms of sound design

That reload sound is addictive

[sharp trail]

Objectively, Doom 3 has the best sound design in the series. BFG sounds, plasma gun sounds, shotgun sounds, soul cube - all this is just fantastic. Monsters sound design is also made at the highest level. Each demon sounds unique and impressive

[livid wharf]

Except the machine gun. It sounds kinda puny. But one dud sound among a bunch of good sounds isn’t bad at all

[sharp trail]

agree, machine gun is pathetic

[dull wigeon]

And yet so many people shit on the sound design of this game.

[honest lynx]

The vr remasted alot of the gun sounds and they sound great. As for the machine gun I really like the nailgun sound. But the reload of it is great like alot of the reloads

[latent ridge]

the shooting sounds are ass but the reload sounds are great

[sharp trail]

There are many great shooting sounds in this game

But bfg edition sounds really lame compared to the OG game

[honest lynx]

VR improved on the sounds In general. Makes them sound beefy

As for bfg I'm not aware of any sound differences

Compared to og

[slate gulch]

Dhewm3 lets modern headphones turn on the EAX Reverb

[sharp trail]

Yeah, reload sound pretty cool

[slate gulch]

Vanilla game cant read it and just assumes you dont have one that can

The echoes even for ambient sounds

The hells bells actually echoing down the halls

Tunnel wind makes it feel like you are actually in a cave

[honest lynx]

Love detail like that

[scenic stratus]

I love the ambience

Really sounds spooky

[sharp trail]

Yeah, ambience is one of the best things in Doom 3

dark and atmospheric

[vernal crest]

yeah, it's got some ambience that I often listen to. It's also go stuff like this
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2PE404JP01g

[devout pier]

So does DOOM BFA for the BFG/2019 (efx files required)

[slim willow]

I finally got myself to complete Lost Mission on Nightmare

The final boss fight is pathetic when you use the soul cube and spam the BFG

[hard wolf]

That is not quite true, thats an opinion, everyone has different opinions, there is no true answer

[night walrus]

The doom 3 theme song hits hard not gonna lie

[vernal crest]

https://tenor.com/view/hulk-hogan-nodding-nod-yes-yup-gif-13973219

[viral briar]

Plasma fire and reload sounds however…

They’re satisfying.

[hard wolf]

Opinion people opinion

[vernal crest]

there's a difference between "I like this" and "this is good", as well as "I don't like this" and "this is bad"

[hard wolf]

What does it have to do with it

[honest lynx]

Doom 3 was built around atmosphere and sound. So it's easy to see why some would think it's the best

[jagged furnace]

i downloaded some of the sounds to put in my outlook notifications

[acoustic acorn]

if there's anything that gets me to try this game again, it's that plasma. The d64 and d3 plasma's are pretty cool. d64's is weaker(firerate due to framerate) but they both look cool and d3's especially sounds cool

[scenic stratus]

I think d64 does more damage but less fire rate

[acoustic acorn]

https://doomwiki.org/wiki/Plasma_gun#Doom_64 the wiki says that only RoF is lower and recoil is removed entirely. idk if d64 has its source code revealed though, it's possible that they're wrong

[honest lynx]

Plasma is always my go 2 in doom games. Just so fun to use

[livid wharf]

SSG is my favorite. My response to particularly nasty encounters is to pull the BFG

[honest lynx]

I always feel more confident going into a blind run room with a plasma ready

[livid wharf]

I just realized this is the Doom 3 channel and not classic Doom. That changes things. In that case I agree plasma is amazing

[night walrus]

What is is the story of Resurrection of evil? I still don't get it

[vernal crest]

Another protagonist goes "hehe let me touch de shiny heart" and it starts the invasion

[livid wharf]

Then you gotta pull a Frodo and take the shiny heart back to hell so you can kill Science Satan and destroy the heart

Btw I hate that they named it, “the Artifact”
That’s so unimaginative

Instead of “the Heart of Evil” or “Heart of Judas” or something

[half plank]

pretty sure its called The Heart of Hell

like officially

correct me if i am wrong

[livid wharf]

Huh. Okay. I have yet to hear that name in the expansion itself though

[vernal crest]

I think the characters call it "The Artifact" because it's shorter

[livid wharf]

Okay. It’s still a very boring name though

Even calling it “the Heart” would be better

[vernal crest]

True

Also, gotta ask did you finish ROE or are you still playing through it?

[slim willow]

Soulcube better

I'm gonna start a base campaign on Nightmare

It's either gonna be harder or easier than Lost Mission

[vernal crest]

most likely harder

[dull wigeon]

Does the Artifact win the contest to the most overpowered item in the series?
I hear the sentinel hammer is pretty broken as well, but the full power artifact is just ridiculous

[vernal crest]

dunno, probably. But you're better off just not using it then

and at least people that made ROE might of have been aware of how overpowered it is, since there's an area which seems to punish you if you become too reliant on it

[dull wigeon]

The green island in hell? Wish they were more areas in the campaign with that level of intensity

[vernal crest]

I though that it was blue xD

[acoustic acorn]

doesn't the cube kill a single monster? bfg in new doom, especially 2016, is ridiculous. It is a board clear and you get so much ammo

[slim willow]

Nvm i can't do Nightmare

It's locked even though i completed Veteran wtf

Guess i'll have to do it again

And i'll try to get the speedrun achievement

[honest lynx]

Heat makes it more interesting. Especially on nightmare and hell sections

[honest lynx]

Yeah and on nightmare the health restoration helps you push in to the next enemy to kill kre recharge and repeat. Really good mechanic for the mode

[devout pier]

That sounds like an issue with the saved configuration file. In BFG Edition (possibly and in OG) the nightnare difficulty is enabled with cvars

[slim willow]

I'm on the 2019 version on Xbox

[night walrus]

me? I'm nearly done through I couldn't tell if I was on earth or Mars

[honest lynx]

Game takes place on Mars and hell

[night walrus]

It's a shame I never made one on earth so I thought that would be pretty cool they did nearly make one similar but it's still wasn't quite doom 3 more like call of duty

[vernal crest]

I was asking Molly but ok, cool 👍

[night walrus]

It's just that I started the Resurrection of evil conversation so I thought you were talking to me lol

[vernal crest]

it's ok

[honest lynx]

It most likely would have been alot more like odst not call of duty.

[night walrus]

To be honest it was a cool concept I wish they would have continued with it maybe it would be cool to see you like a hell on earth type expansion for doom 3

[hard wolf]

Ive heard this is the easiest doom game, is that true? (if you dont count doom rpg)

[honest lynx]

Yeah even on nightmare it's the most doable

[half plank]

Nightmare really is only tough at the start when they throw the Z Sec at you.

Less guns to use and the shotgunners have insane range

It gets easier when your arsenal grows and they stop throwing them at you for a few hours.

[slate gulch]

And then they throw chaingunners at you

[vernal crest]

now I'm imagining that cutscene from the Alpha there the Cahingunner jumped out and yelled "BLEED MORTAL"

[naive flint]

shotgun bad

[vernal crest]

https://tenor.com/view/laugh-laughing-laughter-gif-5848246

[half plank]

by then you have rockets and plasma

[slate gulch]

And then they throw them at you when you dont have those

[half plank]

yep

but that doesnt last too long

[scenic stratus]

I still hate them

[acoustic acorn]

didnt know that there were chaingunners here

[half plank]

you played 3?

[acoustic acorn]

not much

[slim willow]

Run straight at everything with the shotgun

[half plank]

need to nerf the shotgun for my next playthrough. it is too powerful. its might is too great

[honest lynx]

Wish the machine gun has a scope without a mod

[woeful bough]

is doom 3: BFG edition different from the original doom 3?

i noticed both were on steam

[acoustic acorn]

some differences yeah. mainly whether or not you can use the light while holding a gun

[half plank]

there are a lot

honestly dont go with the bfg edition unless youre computer illiterate

use the dhewm3 port with the original version

[honest lynx]

Or if you have VR. Then dont touch either

[woeful bough]

what's wrong with bfg edition?

[half plank]

Facts

[honest lynx]

Content removed. Plus og allows for alot of mods custom maps

[woeful bough]

i see

good to know

[half plank]

society would be 1000 years in the future if the official VR Edition was on pc

[honest lynx]

Pc has a VR but so far I've heard complaints about it. I have no idea if it's good. I just know the ps version is optimized for actual vr

[half plank]

its not official

all the vr versions i know of are mods

and fan ports

[tribal hawk]

i upscaled the doom 3 pistol

it is now 4k verts

[flat heath]

Hey i need some help with resolution in doom 3 any ideas?

[acoustic acorn]

I was so hyped for the plasma but the projectiles are so slow

[lapis quartz]

AVGN

[vernal crest]

just like in the original

[acoustic acorn]

maybe it's cope but it felt better there. maybe the limited 3d and less erratic cacos helped

[slim willow]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/832527578891944006/949847633613180938/doom3nightmare1.mp4 Flashback to this clip

[honest lynx]

They're slow but they melt. Best gun in the base game

[lapis quartz]

Explain to me why does people think Doom 3 is shit

I mean the atmosphere

The creepy sounds

[vernal crest]

it's mostly just people who played newer Doom games and too much of project brutality

[lapis quartz]

I only get that it almost doesn't feel like doom

[vernal crest]

nah it's still Doom, just imagine a Doom game but with more horror

[lapis quartz]

Yeah pretty much intense with
Alot of consequences

Like accidentally shooting a civilian

[vernal crest]

lmao, they were aware that people would try and shoot the NPC's

[lapis quartz]

I got stuck and had to reset the game

[vernal crest]

some of them even dropping PDA's if you shoot them, and Teressa was meant to drop a key if you were to shoot her

[vernal crest]

wait, when?

[lapis quartz]

At the beginning where the man was helping climb the ladder

[vernal crest]

you know you can always quick save before doing something

[lapis quartz]

I thought he wasn't important so I saved after i shot him

Stupid me

[vernal crest]

PFFFF

[lapis quartz]

https://c.tenor.com/Y7H6osgz6S4AAAAM/angry-video-game-nerd-mad.gif

[lapis quartz]

My reaction to realizing he was actually important

[vernal crest]

https://tenor.com/view/dani-dani-rojas-far-cry6-thats-dumb-far-cry-gif-23227052

[lapis quartz]

Very much

[honest lynx]

Usually new people that's first doom game was eternal. Weren't doom fans that played back in 2004

Usually just think doom must be rip and tuur

" brutal doom is the way doom was meant to be" and so on

[lapis breach]

I personaly like Doom 3 too, its not a bad game at all, just a bad Doom game if I can say so

[honest lynx]

That's actually what alot of haters say unfortunately. Not saying you are. But it's most definitely a fantastic doom game. If you play like a horror game and dont push... you'll get a horror game. But the thing about doom 3 is nothing is stopping you from playing fast paced and balls to the wall. My last run was 4 hours of non stop shooting and killing on nightmare. If you want to see some examples look at thr pinned videos on this channel

[lapis breach]

You are 100% right

[acoustic acorn]

how do I get past the part with the lift(it has buttons to turn, move laterally, and rise)

[scenic stratus]

In alpha labs?

[acoustic acorn]

communications transfer

[acoustic acorn]

nvm found a video for it

[scenic stratus]

Brutal doom and project brutality is good though

[vernal crest]

not saying it's bad, just saying that people played it too much, to the point of saying "brutal doom is the way doom was meant to be", "I can't play Doom without the mod", ext.

[acoustic acorn]

seeing other people play, I've discovered that I managed to miss the entire chaingun

[vernal crest]

pffff

[acoustic acorn]

idk if it was a special code locker or I just totally didn't see it

[vernal crest]

well, you do get another chance to get it

[scenic stratus]

Well I usto say that because it was a more satisfying and brutal way of killing doom unlike classic doom

[acoustic acorn]

I was looking forward to the chaingun. statistically, according to the wiki, it seems similar to the machine gun but a lil better.

[vernal crest]

I can understand that, but it is definitely pushing it

[vernal crest]

yeah, it does more damage (the wiki even saying that it's way better than in the classics)

[scenic stratus]

Chain gun not that good in 3

[acoustic acorn]

I've seen footage. It looks way better than the classic one yeah

oh how do I get the bfg early so I don't miss another weapon lol

[scenic stratus]

YOU don't

[vernal crest]

there's a PDA that you find early on (if my memory serves me right) which has the code for this room, which is where the BFG is kept at

[acoustic acorn]

I remember civvie saying that I need to replace the 0's in the code with 3's

[scenic stratus]

Cause there's no 0

[acoustic acorn]

Is every important secret in a code room? I haven't found any other interesting secrets

[vernal crest]

yeah, because the dude (in game's story) tried o make it 0, but was sent an email saying that there's no 0 so they replaced it with 3

[acoustic acorn]

oh boy new shield guy. Uh -- I could only kill him with chainsaw

I'll reload the CP and try with other weapons

[scenic stratus]

Civvie is interesting cause doom 1 and 2 he knows like the back of his hand

[vernal crest]

you can also throw a grenade

[acoustic acorn]

didn't work on a front throw.

now it did --- oki. maybe because he was crouched before

[scenic stratus]

And he plays on high difficulty

[honest lynx]

Machine gun is your friend for accuracy and hitting exposed areas

[acoustic acorn]

I've only been using machine gun and plasma cuz they look cool(and frags)

[acoustic acorn]

oh boy, my first revenant

[vernal crest]

spooky ||sexy|| scary skeletons with rockets have arrived :D

[acoustic acorn]

looks like they're incased in gel. more importantly, I have a rocket launcher now woo. it's pretty spicy looking

[scenic stratus]

You’ll get your bfg early in delta labs 2

[acoustic acorn]

I know that it's no classic bfg but it's still big boom. finally collected the chaingun from a chaingunner. didn't find it earlier, but them shooting at me makes it obvious

[acoustic acorn]

maybe I don't really "get" the rhythm yet but a lot of the combat seems to either be cheesy "immediately damage upon opening door," "enemy that rushes faster than you so you kinda have to know that he's there to fire a rocket", or easy.

[honest lynx]

For revs plasma blows the rockets up in their face. Always a good time

[acoustic acorn]

yeah, almost feeels unfair

grabbed the bfg(just used the wiki. maybe I find the pda eventually -- annnnnnd lost again...

[green steppe]

i havent played doom 3 in forever so im gonna spend all night replaying it because i remember it being really fun

[honest lynx]

Nights the best time to start

[slim willow]

3AM

Dark room

[hushed abyss]

Anyone here run a modded Doom 3? With redux or dhewm3

[scenic stratus]

,

[scenic stratus]

The drip zombie

[vernal crest]

https://tenor.com/view/drip-goku-drip-goku-dripping-dripgod-gif-25245981

[scenic stratus]

True

[acoustic acorn]

I think there's an archvile here. He just looks like a very pale guy

[scenic stratus]

Where are you at?

You in delta?

[acoustic acorn]

delta 2b

[scenic stratus]

Yea it’s an archie

Did you already get the bfg?

[acoustic acorn]

yep. I keep saving and loading every time I use the bfg so I can figure out how many charges it needs

[scenic stratus]

You’ll need it for delta 4

[acoustic acorn]

wait does this thing do self damage?...well...that's kinda disapointing. At that point plasma might be better up close -- I'm really trying to engage with the game here but every single level I get lost for half an hour. And the combat is either trivial plasma spam or jumpscare instant damage. I don't know if I'll be able to play this until the end

[livid wharf]

The BFG in this game is mostly a midrange weapon

[slim willow]

I use enhanced edition

[half plank]

I use dhewm3, a mod I found that replaces the main theme with a higher quality version, and a hud mod I threw together that scales it to 4:3 instead of stretching anything.

[honest lynx]

Yeah man told you not to hold it down

I use..VR

[vernal crest]

story-wise, it's a prototype so it'll overheat if held too long, causing it to explode (and I guess one of the pieces hitting Marine's head and killing him, should've worn the helmet )

[half plank]

real chad hours

[acoustic acorn]

no not from it exploding in my hands, from shooting a monster that's close to me like the rocket launcher

[honest lynx]

Ahhhh... yeah that'll do it. Which is weird because the video even says it has friend or foe damage

[vernal crest]

weird, but then again, still a prototype, or ID forgot to code it in so that it doesn't damage you

[honest lynx]

But it also says anything in a 15 meter radius will die... so

Of detonation

[vernal crest]

granted, you aren't really meant to be close to an enemy when shooting the Big Fucking Gun

[compact mica]

[acoustic acorn]

it's clearly based on the 2016 multi-player functionality

[honest lynx]

I mean makes sense to post it here haha

[hushed abyss]

Ah right. I managed to get Dhewm 3 and Redux to work together. Then added some High resolution textures and the game looks pretty good.

[acoustic acorn]

I made it to hell and it changed my controls. sprint is a hold instead of a toggle input

and the stamina bar seems to have disappeared

[honest lynx]

What? Weird man

[half plank]

stamina is normal

in hell you have infinite sprint. in the original 3 your stamina bar actually had a little visual effect showing this. unlike in bfg edition and 2019 where it was outright removed from the hud

_ _
control thing shouldnt be happening though. thats really weird

[sharp trail]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h3f9IEEP0B8&t=1s

[honest lynx]

Oh man wish they kept the rag doll. One of my favorite things

[slim willow]

Woah

Imagine a full on remake in UE5

[acoustic acorn]

yeah it's back to a toggle back on -- idk science labs?

[acoustic acorn]

It did the same thing for the cyberdemon boss fight. So I did end up beating the game. I liked some of the latter half where there were more enemies. I will say though that they give a crazy amount of plasma. I almost only used plasma late game. Rockets for archies and chaingunners, and bfg for h&ck knights though. I'll try RoE and LM. I might end up giving it a replay. To be fair, I disliked doom1/doom2, and doom2016 on first playthrough as well and have played my fair share of all 3 at this point

[honest lynx]

It'll grow on ya like fine wine

[acoustic acorn]

do you know how armor works? The wiki said that it was 33 % or something like that but it feels like I never drop armor

[honest lynx]

Don't even worry about armor is basically useless in doom 3

Especially nightmare

Which you should play next. Since it's the best doom 3 experience

[hushed abyss]

I'd argue that Veteran is the definitive Doom 3 experience. Nightmare is more of a challenge run with modifiers.

[slim willow]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/783267744157663242/987192252361216040/Screenshot_20220617-060909_Discord.jpg

[hushed abyss]

was this in a private msg?

[slim willow]

No

[versed estuary]

He dumb in every sense of that conversation

[scenic stratus]

True

[honest lynx]

I feel nightmare is better if you want a guns blaze playthrough

The not a Good doom game is such a shitty argument. You might as well say I never played it

[rose field]

doom 3 is a doom game and a good one

classic doom has both horror-y moments with tension and high-octane AFPS stuff

doom 3 leans into the former part while the new games lean into the latter

[half plank]

Doom 3 is like spookier Knee Deep in the Dead. How could you not like it.

[livid wharf]

I just wish Doom 3 got to the Shores of Hell stuff sooner and that it was a significantly bigger part of the game

[half plank]

agreed

[livid wharf]

To be honest I don’t even like actual Knee Deep in the Dead personally. I feel that it’s Doom 1’s most bland feeling episode due to how much the levels resemble one another

Later episodes have plenty of questionable design choices, but they’re unique and interesting, which actually matters to me more.

[rose field]

yup

[rose field]

that's true

i like modern wads with a similar theme though (that are as detailed as you'd expect from a modern wad)

[vernal crest]

Well originally you would've spent more time in hell since you would be going after 4 pieces of the soul cube (as originally, they were separated into 4 pieces). But this (along with the General Hayden character) was cut

[livid wharf]

Oh well

[scenic stratus]

We need a remake of doom 3 Bethesda style

[rose field]

what do you mean bethesda style

[acoustic acorn]

they mean "worse"

[rose field]

oh i see

[acoustic acorn]

idk maybe it's the hotboxes(edit... oop) but I'm point blank with the ssg against a white imp and it survives

[rose field]

hot box

[naive flint]

At least we got more hell levels in the third DLC

Lost Mission

[scenic stratus]

Yeah

Lost mission is quite good for cut levels

It consists of 8 new levels, most of which were originally cut from Doom 3 is what I mean

[honest lynx]

Really enjoy the pace. Alot faster than bade or even roe

[slim willow]

Doesn't really feel like cut levels

[vernal crest]

yeah I've noticed how they look too similar to the main games levels

[honest lynx]

Lost missions first arch fight is pretty smart. Wish it was a bit more though

[scenic stratus]

this doom 3 channel includes bfg edition?

[rich furnace]

yes

[scenic stratus]

cool

[vernal crest]

even the Doom 3 on the phone, though I haven't seen anyone really talk about it

[versed estuary]

I love doom ressurection

[vernal crest]

I did hear that it's actually good

I guess the fact that it's on the phone can throw someone off

[acoustic acorn]

After finishing d3, RoE, and Lost Mission I think my conclusion is: plasma ammo is everywhere, the dlcs rely less on jumpscares at doors which is nice, RoE had some acceptable combat, but LM's hell mission was pretty disapointing with only one or two enemies at a time. Navigation is rather difficult. Idk if I'll go for all achievements(mostly pda stuff) since idk if backtracking is legal in most levels. I think it is but there might be exceptions

[scenic stratus]

[paper cedar]

My favorite Doom games are Doom 1 1993, Doom 64, Doom 2 1994, Doom 3, and Doom Eternal!

[vernal crest]

so almost every Doom game.... YAY

[rich furnace]

mancubus and cherub(demon baby) combo is really annoying

[acoustic acorn]

mancs could've been used a lot more aggressively imo

[paper cedar]

I also like Doom 2016!

[scenic stratus]

will those scare people with arachnophobia

[acoustic acorn]

I think you'll be ok. You can play this game even if uncomfy with spidys. They're rather small, but in a way that they're low res and dark so you can't get much detail, but big enough that they won't usually surprise you. They're also the weakest enemy, or at least one of the weakest enemies. So I don't think arachnophobia should dissuade you from doom3 @scenic stratus

[honest lynx]

Having there projectiles be destroyed when shot could open up more use for them

[slate gulch]

Bruisers are the more aggressive mancubi

[acoustic acorn]

those the guys with the teeth cube?

[slate gulch]

They were supposed to pretend to be panels and then unfold or something like that, they couldn't get it to work right

[hushed abyss]

Bruisers were dental patients at the time of the invasion. When they morphed into demons, the screen would become attached to their faces as a permanent reminder of their bad dental habits.

[honest lynx]

This is true lore

[slim willow]

The real forgotten version of Doom 3 is the Shield version

[vernal crest]

Shield version?

[versed estuary]

Nvidia shield had a port of doom 3

Effectively a true Mobile doom 3

[latent ridge]

the shield isn't very portable

[honest lynx]

Lost chaingun count... 450

[scenic stratus]

The uhh

[honest lynx]

https://imgur.com/a/cOJAqn3

[scenic stratus]

That looks badass

[honest lynx]

It definitely is! So worth it

[sharp trail]

Thats fucking great

[scenic stratus]

you created it?

[honest lynx]

No no. Picked it up from Germany

[scenic stratus]

anyways, looks totally astonishing

and fashionable! 🙂

[honest lynx]

Well thank you!

[rigid totem]

yo

[slim willow]

Amazing

[cursive gulch]

Yes

[scenic stratus]

i begin to dislike classic doom
dunno why, don’t even ask

happened yesterday when i finished hell on earth

not even that i dislike it

i hate it almost

tried plutonia experiment afterwards - and i hate it even more

not only because of the graphics … i am literally frustrated at everything

[versed estuary]

This isnt classic doom

[scenic stratus]

recalling my past - i put many hours in Doom 1, 2, final

i regret.. was a waste of time

to me, d2016 is somewhat better - but i hate it too

stupid arcade

not even talking about eternal now

i realize now - i freaking hate every doom game…. except for..

except for a superior masterpiece

a real shooter with real-life experience and awesome monster design

and with awesomest environment and atmosphere

[versed estuary]

I think it probably woulda been easier to just say you Like Doom 3 more

[scenic stratus]

a game which never let me down

it’s DooM3

[versed estuary]

Doom 3 is pretty damn good

Best hell design in any doom

[scenic stratus]

f*** me, except for d3 — i don’t understand a single game in series

[half plank]

🙏

[versed estuary]

Also that 2004 style gun handling and movement is just chefs kiss

[half plank]

Doom 3 supremacy

[versed estuary]

Something about that era of fps shooters is just perfect

[half plank]

slower paced games than 90s fps for the most part but they still tried to be unique and interesting

2000s games in general just hit that spot dude

[scenic stratus]

tried Quake2 in 2022 and it wasn’t that bad — though it was far from enjoyable

and i have to say i still retain good feelings towards every counter strike game

HL2 i was playing 2020-21 — epic game

[latent ridge]

you like half life??????

[honest lynx]

Doom 3 best classic game

[winged dew]

Imagine a doom 3 or quake 4 rtx remaster

Watering at the mouth just thinking about it

[scenic stratus]

Might not look as good as you think

[versed estuary]

I rather not have a remaster

Doom 3 perfects what it set out to do

Now i would take a modern game that follows doom 3s aesthetic combined with an improved destruicble demons system

[livid wharf]

What I would like is Doom 3 levels that take advantage of the relatively low resolution to have bigger encounters with more demons.

[vernal crest]

I would definitely love to see the modern games take more artistics from Doom 3 (sorry but some designs 8n modern games feel to generic and complex, doesn't help the fact that Doom Eternal tried to look "more cartoony")

[livid wharf]

Doom Eternal did a pretty good job emulating Doom 2 tbf

[slate gulch]

Doom 3 is Doom 1 in 11 years of paint

[scenic stratus]

hl2, yup

[scenic stratus]

risk of d3 remaster becoming a flop is very high, given the fact developers follow modern concepts that aren’t really compatible with the game

so, i don’t think we need one

[acoustic acorn]

did we not already get that with bfg edition

[scenic stratus]

kinda true

[vernal crest]

yeah, plus Doom 3 to this day looks great as hell ||see what I did there ||. And although it would be cool to see 100% polished Doom 3 characters and such, I mostly fear that the re-designs would end up looking overly complicated and generic

[silk sigil]

I miss the modding that could be done with Doom 3. It never really caught on

the best mod was a Co-Op one, but even that wasn't popular

(also the Episode 1 levels some team did. Wish they would have done all of doom 1)

[vernal crest]

yeah, I have no idea why modding is so limited in the BFG Edition (with Doom 1 and 2 not even allowing modding)

[honest lynx]

Vr has some fantastic improvements also. I think leaving it the way it is would he fine with me

[half plank]

it would slay with raytracing though

[vernal crest]

maybe, and although there could be good things about it, imagining the bads really outweighs any goods, ||the ONLY reason I'm happy we didn't get a Doom 3 sequel that would be a spin-off, as much as I want it||

[night walrus]

Doom 3

[half plank]

What's a Doom 3?

[scenic stratus]

I have quake 2 rtx but no rtx support on my computer

[severe lotus]

We need doom 3 remaster

[rose field]

dhewm3 works

[scenic stratus]

Doom 3 bfg edition

[severe lotus]

Uh oh

[honest lynx]

VR ! 🔥

[scenic stratus]

i need splinter cell blacklist

will install it tonight

[scenic stratus]

i don’t have either, still no regrets

[sharp oar]

i bought yesterday doom 3 i bought that original doom 3 and cod mw2

[half plank]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/951569115074670676/989617390432165969/gaming.png

"I'm telling you Dr. Betruger, you need to get some kills our team is losing."

"We're not losing, Swann, you are."

[vernal crest]

Switches to team demons

[half plank]

lmao

[honest lynx]

https://imgur.com/a/gbfzrWh

@half plank

[vernal crest]

well, he got a kill

[half plank]

drank too much

[vernal crest]

"You will never escape me, your drinks will be mine!"

[honest lynx]

Really hit the bottle after losing the cube

[vernal crest]

[half plank]

haha silly marine you will never find the thing you seek

[vernal crest]

I now wish that was another taunt he would say in the game....
||Objective: Find the thing you seek||

[half plank]

lmfao

i wonder how hard it would be to mod that in

[vernal crest]

well, in reality, someone would just have to do an impression of Betruger

[slim willow]

Mixom monitor

PS5 controllers still being used in 2145

[scenic stratus]

Well yeah

It’s hard getting a ps5 maybe around that time it’s easy

[honest lynx]

Hahahaha nice

[vernal crest]

Would make sense, especially if PS6 doesn't even exist 123 years later

[vernal crest]

And they kinda seem like boomers

[scenic stratus]

marinated Joe

[vernal crest]

I think I figured out why Thomas Kelly's face looks like it was stung by bees in the BFG Edition. So we know that he used to go bear hunting with his shotgun, right? And bears like honey, honey is made by bees. So he killed the papa bear when it was getting the honey for it's family, and the bees attacked him.... ||I have my fair share of regrets||

[supple sierra]

question: how do i get the red classic doomguy skin in eternal? I couldn't find anywhere in doom 3 bethesda button or anyting

[scenic stratus]

Do you have the bfg edition?

[versed estuary]

You need the rerelease version of doom 3 which is not on steam

[supple sierra]

really?

what a BS

[scenic stratus]

Ik

[supple sierra]

well that's a complete a55hole move tbh

my wrath is inhuman and my evening is runied

[vernal crest]

https://tenor.com/view/i-agree-agreed-yes-kitten-and-butterflies-3d-gifs-artist-gif-19103931

[supple sierra]

https://tenor.com/view/angry-andre-sitolini-engetic-butthurt-gif-14985012

i just realised I can't send pictures here

i wasted 5 minutes making a gif that perfectly ilustrates my anger

but anyway...

F***ing dammit bethesda

[vernal crest]

https://tenor.com/view/mimi-neko-its-ok-ok-cry-pat-gif-16605231

[warped wasp]

chill, its just skin, on that note, its been a blast modding classic Doom 3, the classic doom mod for it is marvelous

[vernal crest]

well at least it's just re colored classic skin

[versed estuary]

If you are on pc just mod the skin in

[supple sierra]

oh really? is there a skin creator or something? 🤩

[versed estuary]

Idk about a creator but there are tons of mods for skins

[supple sierra]

cool.

[supple sierra]

Tell me wizard man what spell do i use for such magic effect?

[vernal crest]

there's probably some mods in #eternal-modding that could help

[versed estuary]

There is also a modding discord idk what it is though

[half plank]

still hate how they made sgt. kelly look so young in the bfg edition

thought the whole point was hes supposed to be this older guy

[vernal crest]

I thought I was the only one who noticed that he kinda looked younger

[half plank]

it had to be intentional

hes got a full head of hair

and he looks smoother