doom-3

[stark kraken]

Hugo did mention it

[honest lynx]

Would be nice for more information. But until then I'd just treat it as it's own thing.

[stark kraken]

I mean it's fine if Doom 3 is canon it doesn't change anything since again it is its own universe and stuff

[simple dust]

Id like Doom 3 to be canonical

[honest lynx]

That would mean betruger is canon

Joe!!!!

[wintry olive]

joe mama lmao

[versed estuary]

My theory? They can make a soft reboot sequel to doom 3 that takes place on Earth during the invasion that retcons most of doom 3s dates but keeps the majority of it still tru

And the hell on earth would take place during 2016/eternals time

[honest lynx]

If they made like a 3 hour game of that I'd be happy

[clear ridge]

But 4 hours nah fuck that

[charred fox]

Wat

[lost wing]

when u fire the gun the muzzle flash is a 2d decal facing the player aka billboard ui and even when u r not firing its still there and the mod is picking it up and adding it to the ambient occlusion calculation. unless u know how to fix the code in the mod u cant really do a lot. u can also turn off the ambient occlusion

also didn't found info about this anywhere im just a game developer and i work with lighting usually

[serene bobcat]

Greetings people.
I'm here because I have a strange ladder bug.
When I start climbing it, gets to the point where I get stuck and can't go any higher.

[clear ridge]

This isn’t half life vr channel go away

[serene bobcat]

Let's put this speech aside.
Have you ever had this problem?

[charred fox]

I personally haven’t : (

Have you tried reloading one of the autosaves

[clear ridge]

No because I don’t play half life

[serene bobcat]

Yes, I tried to load the previous save and I also restarted the game, but nothing has changed.

[honest lynx]

Which stairs is it?

[serene bobcat]

The site 3 I think...

Where you must go down from this ladder, then click something on the panel and then re-use this ladder to go up.

[honest lynx]

Are you sure this isn't communications?

[serene bobcat]

I have also searched this problem on Internet, some people uses the grenades and the rocket, others says to use the NoClip.

[serene bobcat]

Yes?

It's not the communication.

[honest lynx]

Is there a large window where the switch is with a veiw of Mars?

[serene bobcat]

Yes, that one.

[charred fox]

You apparently don’t play doom 3 either

[honest lynx]

Yeah that's the near communications ladder. And when you go up to get to the hallway it's bugged ?

[serene bobcat]

Yes. I get stuck when I have almost reached the floor.

[honest lynx]

Try going all the way up as far as you can. Save and reload. Other than that you may need to start a new game

[clear ridge]

Yeah I gotta finish doom 64 first
And plutonia

No sense in rushing it

[charred fox]

I gotta finish plut too

[serene bobcat]

I'll try the first option. And I hope it works...

[honest lynx]

May Saint betruger be with you

[visual sparrow]

amen

[supple gull]

Imagine if the Marines from the Earth fleet had orders to kill all witnesses

[half plank]

-is new to mars
-is the only survivor

[honest lynx]

Not being there long enough to feel the effects of hell helped

[wild ore]

I had purchased doom 3 BFG edition on the switch and Im wondering: is resurrection of evil in this Port to? And does it support doom 1 and 2

Yes I purchased those a day ago

I love the add-ons tho

[wild ore]

Sometimes I play noob and I just enable some cheats

Like god mode

[lost wing]

just lower the difficulty

[slim willow]

[ripe bloom]

[viral briar]

Do anyone know the file name of the sound when a monster teleports in Doom 3? (the one that has a whispering chant)

[slim willow]

Not sure

[honest lynx]

Joe

[wintry olive]

Candice.wav

[lost wing]

candice who

[wintry olive]

Candice di-

[half plank]

candace from phineas and ferb

[serene bobcat]

I need two players for the multiplayer achievement.

[sick roost]

I got all the stuff of what you get if you log in from your Bethesda account but Doom 3 is the last one i need

[gray finch]

Hello

[sick roost]

But sadly since i have it on Steam, it doesn't seem to work

[sick roost]

Can anyone help me with that?

[outer osprey]

what error do you receive

[sick roost]

There is no button to log in your bethesda account in Doom 3

I have Doom 3 on steam

[plain parrot]

you have to get doom 3 bfg on the bethesda store

steam doesnt count

stupid i know

[sick roost]

Shit

[versed estuary]

Also not the BFG edition

You need to get the doom 3 rerelease version from Bethesda store

[plain parrot]

omg i didnt know they were selling both

4 versions available and only one is the right one 😠

[versed estuary]

IKR?

[half plank]

how hard is it to update bfg edition?

[clear ridge]

Very hard

You’ll have to dodge my axe swings while you do it

[plain parrot]

bright fucking game edition

[clear ridge]

Because my o my why o why would you play doom Three Bee Eff Jee

[half plank]

Bad Fr*cking Game Edition

[clear ridge]

The BFG edition player playing along with the circle jerk as he desperately tries to avoid being called out for playing it

[plain parrot]

me or him cuz i recently bought the original

[half plank]

Play whatever you want. We just want to make funnies.

[clear ridge]

WHAT

[plain parrot]

what

[half plank]

what

[clear ridge]

You fool you’ve exposed yourself

[half plank]

BFG Edition isn't awful. Sure I wouldn't let it near kids, but it isn't all bad.

[plain parrot]

[clear ridge]

[half plank]

[plain parrot]

oo nitro guy huh

make you feel big huh big nitro man

[half plank]

i got it for free

[plain parrot]

i didnt because i have to be a contrarian

[half plank]

I wouldnt have nitro otherwise. 10 dollars a month for funni emotes is not worth my cash

[plain parrot]

f'real

[honest lynx]

Vr superior

[half plank]

ok

cant play Phobos in VR Edition

VR Edition can't even be played on Linux.

[honest lynx]

Can you shoot around a corner with one handed ssg on anything other than vr?

[half plank]

We are fighting for the wrong cause. Instead we should unify and agree the browser version is the pinnacle of Doom 3 experiences.

No no I stand corrected. This is the peak Doom 3.
https://youtu.be/KQSIT18bOvg

[honest lynx]

This is the truth

Betruger bless us

[half plank]

All Doom 3 is good Doom 3. This war is meaningless.

[supple gull]

Bill Tyson's training didn't prepare the Marines for demons

[wintry olive]

It looks like if you played Highway 17 from half-life 2 with a clean install

What with it having literally zero lighting or shaders

[silk sigil]

BFG downgrades the game I agree. WAY too much ammo and too bright

I can agree MAYBE with the light on armor, but otherwise..

[loud fog]

Everyone hates bfg edition so it seems like i cant play doom 3 (considering i play on ps4 and they only have that version)

[honest lynx]

They do hate on it but the new vr edition is bfg and it's the definitive way to experience doom 3. So the argument kinda shits the bed

[loud fog]

I don’t have PSVR

[versed estuary]

BFG edition is still doom 3, ignore the haters

[silk sigil]

@versed estuary .... Yes but the game is way too easy. I don't ever remember having so much ammo. I had to conserve and save some of the best ewuipment for the stronger stuff. I never was in fear of my life because the health was so plentiful. I died more from environmental hazards then monsters. The only hard part was the hell sections due to the limited equipment.

[honest lynx]

True but that's why I play nightmare. Bfg has a far superior nightmare mode

[versed estuary]

The game was never difficult in the first place

[silk sigil]

I still say It was harder.

[supple gull]

I believe it's hard as... 😎 Hell.

[versed estuary]

Harder sure, but it’s still hardly a hard game

[serene bobcat]

I need two players. Please.

[wild shuttle]

Is there a way to disable the health drain on nightmare in the bfg edition? I beat the game and the expansions on veteran, and I would like to try it on a harder difficulty, but I don't want the health drain. Somewhat because it's cheap, and somewhat because in the expansions, you can't use the soulcube for health, since you don't have it. I'd prefer if the solution wasn't a mod.

[honest lynx]

So whatever you learned from doom 3 base game. Move slow horror.. throw that away. Nightmare is a different game. You need to push every room. Move fast use soul cube to gain health at key moments and repeat. The average Nightmare playthrough should be 5 hours as a reference of the speed you need to play

As for roe. You have a full heart of hell after the first boss

So you're talking slow mo and invincible power right away

You need to know doom 3 and when to use these things.

[serene bobcat]

@honest lynx @versed estuary
Sorry for the ping, but you are the only ones I see you often here.
Would you like to help me with this achievement?

[outer osprey]

what platform are you on

[serene bobcat]

PC.

[outer osprey]

I'd play with you but my internet is fucking garbage. I'm downloading DOOM Eternal already and Steam says that it will take 7 fucking days

[serene bobcat]

Bruh. And we need the second player.

It's for that double kill with the bazooka.

[honest lynx]

Don't worry about the ping. But I only have og doom 3 on pc

[serene bobcat]

Og?

[outer osprey]

Yeah, different from the BFG Edition

It's the original port. OG = Original

I have OG DOOM 3 as well

[serene bobcat]

And does that mean you can't help me?
Well, uh...

[versed estuary]

I only have on switch

[clear ridge]

Yeah it’s worse than normal doom 3 but why the hell can’t you play it? Cause other people think it’s bad? That’s a terrible attitude to have

[clear ridge]

I know a doom 3 og vr port

Made by team beef same guys who made questzdoom

And quakequest

[versed estuary]

Personally I’d even argue BFG would be much better enjoyed by new comers to the series

Since it goes more towards the faster hella ammo gameplay of modern doom

[clear ridge]

You mean the ones who complain about no meathook and dash in doom 2016

[honest lynx]

Aim controller

[versed estuary]

Ok you got me there

[knotty folio]

i just found out i have both doom 3 and the bfg edition
confused stonks

[stable lake]

DOOM Eternal VOODOO patch when?

[viral briar]

Someone made an Eternal Voodoo patch already, and the patch is dubbed “Slayer’s Testaments”

[stable lake]

lol
that's Quake tho

[viral briar]

Yes, and it can run on a Voodoo (of course it was made around that era) so yeah!

[stable lake]

[wild ore]

[wild shuttle]

Yeah I went at a fairly sprinty pace in the past. This doesn't really answer the question but if you're right, at least it won't be as painful as it seems.

[honest lynx]

I'm definitely right

[scenic stratus]

I really wish the DEVs update DOOM 3 or DOOM 3 BFG on steam that we can connent to bethesda Slayers club ! like DOOM and DOOM II

So please DEVS update it ❤️

[scenic stratus]

Well if the devs updated them it would totally ruin the nostalgia.

[wintry olive]

The patch to the BFG edition would most likely only add bethesda.net connectivity

[scenic stratus]

right

[visual sparrow]

i dont want the devs ruining Betruger when he's already perfect ❤️

[arctic granite]

finally bought the BFG edition during this sale and just

i don't know why people say they like the shotgun

[raven swan]

It’s only like 8 dollars, I picked up BFG edition too

[outer osprey]

It isn't bad but not the best Doom shotgun either

[clear ridge]

its the worst doom shotgun

maybe cause all the others are so good

[outer osprey]

yes

It isnt bad as a shotgun but it is definitely bad compared to the rest of Doom shotguns

[arctic granite]

yeah that's what i was seeing

like sometimes it couldn't even one shot a standard zombie

and other times it just demolished things in one hit

[supple gull]

Is it explained anywhere how demons can breath in Mars' atmosphere?

[charred basin]

if demons are dead, how do you kill them

[pale quartz]

Hell 2

[honest lynx]

They were born from the pits of hell. They aren't dead. Just highly adapted to harsh environments

[versed estuary]

Yeah they are not dead =/ they are hell spawn, not zombies

[honest lynx]

If they were dead bullets wouldn't do much now would they

[viral briar]

https://twitter.com/tehmondspartan/status/1413505984438231044?s=20

Moodslayer (@tehmondspartan)

An interesting discovery on Doom 3's sound files. Watch till end. #Doom #Doom3 @YourDailyDOOM https://t.co/NT2iMR4zim

Twitter · Jul 9, 2021, 2:31 PM

(this is a video)

[serene bobcat]

Can anyone else help me in this bfg edition?

[exotic moon]

just bought DOOM 3 on Xbox One

[charred fox]

There’s a zombie that farts in the game

That’s why those files are there

He’s the fat one in the prison area that holds other zombies in separate rooms

[brisk coral]

The fuckin baby demons

They scare me a lot

[wintry olive]

wut

[brisk coral]

Lmao

[urban cloak]

Oh, the cherubs? they're morbidly beautiful

[outer osprey]

Yes, they're definitely cute

[serene bobcat]

I have the opposite opinion.
Whenever I see those things, the first thing I do is run away from them and then shoot them with everything I have, mostly with the bazooka.
And then shoot their corpses for many problems they have created.

[honest lynx]

https://imgur.com/a/MOXCjVL

[outer osprey]

I was kidding. They're more disgusting than scary tbh

[limpid tendon]

baby demon

[wanton juniper]

Y’know

I like the demon designs and aesthetic of hell in this game

Feels like a good mix of classic doom and silent hill

[torpid pilot]

I agree its too slow

I'm new here. %90 of what I read I don't really understand. I have Doom and Doom 2. At Steam. Is Doom 3 and easy transition?

[silk sigil]

It's more like a haunted house

And i'd reccomend getting the vanilla version. BFG has way too much health/ammo and is too bright

[wintry olive]

That is the most horrifying thing I have ever laid eyes on

[half plank]

cherubs are evil

[outer osprey]

nah there isn't, I played it.

[honest lynx]

💯

[outer osprey]

Flying bugs?

They aren't babies though.

[half plank]

they are baby

[outer osprey]

They are dababy

[half plank]

[exotic moon]

why the fuck are there babies in hell?!

what did the babies do?!

Jesus christ they are scary as fuck

[mortal shoal]

It’s all the abortions XD

[exotic moon]

but holy shit, those babies must burn in hell!!!!

oh wait

[plain parrot]

they were born in non-christian countries

[slate gulch]

They walk right into the chainsaw

[hushed pewter]

If they live long enough and get older, to they grow into hell knights, or mancubus, or something? Greanted, they should never survive longer than 2 seconds... but if they did!

[half plank]

they would just become bigger babies

[hushed pewter]

so... baby-cubus?

[outer osprey]

they grow up to become dababies

[hushed pewter]

Im willing to accept this as the answer, as well.

[half plank]

[honest lynx]

Most likely mancubus since there is a nest of the baby's at the mancubus fight

[wild shuttle]

1 shotting a revenant 1% of the time at point blank doesn't count

You can pretty much do it with the ssg in eternal though, save for taking out the weak points prior, although it's easy enough to not be a complication

Oh yeah another question. Is there a way to make the spread on the shotgun not horrible? I pretty much just want to be able to one shot an imp at up to 6 feet instead of even failing to do so at point blank. It's pretty much a melee weapon, and considering the fire rate, I don't think it'd become suddenly op. Once again it's for the BFG edition, and I would prefer not to use a mod for the game, although if that is the only solution, I'd very much appreciate it.

[slate gulch]

RoE's super shotgun was perfection

[honest lynx]

Really is. Straight up elephant gun

[honest lynx]

If you're still planning on doing nightmare stick to the machine gun

[wild shuttle]

Yeah I did that on every difficulty past normal
At least there's enough ammo for it, usually

[candid hollow]

Just started Doom 3
Playing on Veteran
While it is very different from the other doom games I've played
I like it
Gives Bioshock vibes

Also the horror elements atleast to me give off a more "jaded" vibe that's hard to describe
Less I am scared and more "Jesus christ man what is even going on"

It different from what most Doom games are like but it fits the universe well imo

[honest lynx]

Great take.

[slate gulch]

It's a bit like how Doom was described in the manual. Everyone is dead or possessed and once you step in after the screams and gunshots stop it's too late to turn back because they know you're there

[candid hollow]

Less "Oh fuck" and more "Well Shit"
Also I would love more side games in the Doom Universe in this style
It would help to elevate the power fantasy in the main games by showing how much more difficult it is for like a regular soldier to kill demons compared to the Doom Slayer ripping them to shreds like nothing

[supple gull]

Doom 3 showed that, kinda. Doom3guy came there like he anticipated it would happen though.

[honest lynx]

Doom marine

[supple gull]

I kinda wish we could see most of the Mars Base before the invasion

[outer osprey]

that would be boring unless it's a story DLC or something

[honest lynx]

Mario sunshine but you have to clean up the failed bloody experiments around the UAC

[half plank]

I would play this.

[analog raven]

Ja

¿Someone recommend doom 3 original Xbox version ?

[honest lynx]

Thats the non bfg edition one. I'd give it a go if I were you

[analog raven]

¿Non Bfg are the ones that doesn’t has the lantern in the body?

[honest lynx]

Yeah and also less ammo darker no cut content flashlight

[half plank]

the original xbox version actually has a lot of cut content

[honest lynx]

Ohhhhh what's missing ?

[half plank]

a lot. entire chunks of levels

most of the cut stuff is just fat though. 90% of the best moments are there

[honest lynx]

Ah. Still. Cut content is cut content

[half plank]

yep

personally I prefer a lot of the Xbox version's maps. but yeah, it still sucks

[opal pagoda]

Is there a way or a mod to make doom 3 more challenging its way too easy

[honest lynx]

Unfortunately you need to beat veteran and then play nightmare. Nightmare is the perfect doom 3 difficulty

Well not vet

Just the game first

[slate gulch]

Veteran would be a good idea because it's as close as you'll get to Nightmare

[analog raven]

Well pc version wins

[honest lynx]

Nah VR wins

By a metric shit ton

[clear ridge]

im sorry but og doom 3 in vr wins

[honest lynx]

Nah

Aim controller and the superior dedicated ui

Just better in every way

Guess pc has mods though

I prefer smooth controls though

[clear ridge]

what

[honest lynx]

The UI is better and the aim controller is superior

[clear ridge]

[honest lynx]

Its cute little fan project on pc though

[half plank]

og doesnt have vr though?

i thought the only version with vr mod was bfg

[clear ridge]

someone made a port for portable vr headsets like the oculus quest

made by team beef, who also made a classic doom vr port

and quake vr port
and half life vr port

and several others

[half plank]

the definitive doom 3 experience?

[clear ridge]

the REAL definitive doom 3 experience
in virtual reality, with none of the fluff of BFG edition

and ill be playing it in vr after i complete doom 64

[honest lynx]

Its pretty neat honestly. You should check it out

But the ps4 version is better. It's a full conversion vr experience. I believe nerve worked on it but I'm not 100 percent sure

Plus with the aim controller you're literally holding a gun in doom 3 so

Crouch shots

One hand shots

Around a corner ssg one hand blasts

Really can't beat that

You can literally do gun fu in doom 3 now. That's the dream

[clear ridge]

you can also hold a gun in the other vr version

with your controller

[honest lynx]

Yeah I actually looked into it but couldn't find a decent one for a good price. That's a shame

Aim controller is over priced though

But worth it I guess

[clear ridge]

what difference does the aim controller make vs the normal oculus quest controller

[honest lynx]

This is pretty cool

[clear ridge]

what

[honest lynx]

Only 28 bucks for a oculus quest controller very close to the aim controller

[clear ridge]

fuck off vega for god sake

[honest lynx]

Yeah not letting me post it either

[clear ridge]

i sent you a direct message with the controller i use
is that the one?

[honest lynx]

Yeah got it bro

[last anchor]

[gray flume]

Hi

Sorry for asking around here but they recommend me to buy the 2 Doom cell phones

[charred basin]

Huh?

[bold hull]

my doom 3 crashes when i try to open it

bfg edition

[clear ridge]

Get normal doom 3

[devout pier]

Or use the BFA source port

[ripe bloom]

the steam doom franchise bundle only has bfg edition

which is weird

[clear ridge]

Bullshit

[ripe bloom]

i bought it bit ago and had to go get the regular doom 3 seperate for the pk4 files

[wintry olive]

If you’re playing the GOG version there should be another exe in the base folder. Click on that and it should work

[scenic stratus]

I was playing doom 3 like a hour ago and i got more progress on the pc than xbox lol

[half plank]

what version did you buy on pc?

[supple gull]

I got more progress on Xbox when I was younger cuz we had a crappy PC back then.

Interesting how the Xbox version has events that the PC version doesn't have, like Campbell shooting an Imp in Central Processing (or was it an Arch-Vile)

[half plank]

It was an archie

Yeah I really like those

Too bad the Xbox version cut out so much of the levels.

Because it's the only port you can actually shoot the cyber in.

I'd love a mod that adds the new little things into the PC version. That would be the ultimate 3 experience.

[wintry olive]

What if someone recreated plutonia map11 in doom 3

[half plank]

ooh

[wintry olive]

And instead of seeing the archviles immediately, they spawn one by one

behind you

[half plank]

i'd play that

[wintry olive]

If I knew how to mod doom 3 (or just video games in general) I would probably do it

[honest lynx]

Yeah but then you'd get commandos chasing you all around the maze

[wintry olive]

I forgot the doom 3 archviles spawned enemies

[visual sparrow]

i'd vomit

[slate gulch]

What if someone made Go 2 It in Doom 3

I wouldn't be surprised if the engine inherently cant handle it

[wintry olive]

I don’t think id tech 4 would handle like 200 enemies on one screen

[scenic stratus]

microsoft store gamepass because im a cheap fuck

[serene bobcat]

Can anyone help me in this Doom 3 BFG Edition?

[honest lynx]

Whats the problem

[serene bobcat]

I needed two people for the goal of making two kills with a bazooka shoot.
But I just got it.

[clear ridge]

doom 3: Bright Fucking Game

[honest lynx]

Me experiencing the superior doom 3

[clear ridge]

[half plank]

me experiencing a valid version of the game, even if it doesnt surpass the immersion of vr

[plain parrot]

Hell is a good level

Cyberdemon bad

[blazing laurel]

I have a question

Is doom 3 on switch the original doom 3, or is it the BFG edition? (I want the original)

[versed estuary]

Bfg

[blazing laurel]

Dam

[viral briar]

BFG Edition minus the classic Dooms.

And multiplayer.

[unreal saddle]

playing doom 3 for first time on xbox, yall were right there is way too much ammo

all these demons didnt account for me having a full mag of this awesome chaingun

[honest lynx]

Just a shame they don't at least let you play on nightmare right away on bfg

[unreal saddle]

im playing on marine tbh but im also bad at every other doom game and play on normal anyway, and even higher difficulties i think dont give u any less ammo

[honest lynx]

You should definitely play doom 3 on veteran. It's not overly difficult and the ammo issue you're having will be a tiny less op

[unreal saddle]

im also 3 hrs in tho and im gonna feel like a slog to restart now

im at the comm center revisit

maybe ill wait a bit and come back on vet

most of what kills me in this game are imps hitting explosive barrels and my own grenades bouncing back

this game has like the worst grenades ever

[slate gulch]

If you use them wrong. Use them right instead and you get instant kills

Once you learn how to bounce and angle them you can end things you know are coming

[supple gull]

Playing the Xbox version, I never realized how much more useful the armor is.

[wintry olive]

is there a mod that puts the extra cutscenes of the og Xbox port into the pc version?

[half plank]

I wish

[wintry olive]

[wild ore]

[strange gull]

mood eternal 😔

[scenic stratus]

DOOM 3 is not a bad game.
Change my mind!

[clear ridge]

No need

[half plank]

i cant, youre objectively correct

[honest lynx]

iTs nOt A bAd GaMe iTs jUst nOt a DoOm gAmE... trust me I watched a video on someone who said that once and can't form my own opinions by actually playing the game. If I do it'll be for half an hour before my crap attention span kicks in

[clear ridge]

https://tenor.com/view/dying-monkey-dying-gif-13123180

Ow

[versed estuary]

Because people wanna sheep mentality it for the most part

Finally someone that gets it

People: it’s not a Doom game

Doom 3:
Has hell
Has demons
Has basically all of the main iconic demons
Bfg
Holding hella weapons
And holding hella ammo
Fast sprint ( in comparison to the game)
Quick gameplay
Shooting crazy
Hell it has quickswapping for the most part,

True

But it does have demons and hell

So it gets a 50% doom rating

[scenic stratus]

You're goddamn right.

[supple gull]

Sgt. Kelly is hella impatient

[slate gulch]

Because the missing scientist has to be found, you're a replacement for someone I think died in an 'accident' and he finds out in the first 5 minutes with you that you're an idiot.

I'm surprised you cant stand around him long enough for an automatic game over where he calls Dark Star back and tells them to take 'this idiot' back where they found him

Hopefully you find your way back to the docks better than you've followed orders so far.

No droid guide for you

[wanton juniper]

• is what the original doom was supposed to be

[exotic moon]

Eternal Mood

[tranquil onyx]

Doom 3 is an excellent game

[tranquil onyx]

can you elaborate on this?

[wanton juniper]

The original doom was supposed to be more scary and like doom 3 but due to technical restrictions it turned into a fast paced shooter

But when they started working on doom 3 those technical restrictions weren’t a problem anymore

[charred fox]

I don't think that's entirely true iirc

[tranquil onyx]

I have never heard anything about that

[charred fox]

Original doom's design was most likely the same but they did not have the means to give it a more cinematic story with characters like 3

But yeah the scary-ness of 3 in a lot of ways is an evolution of what was established in doom 1

[honest lynx]

Romero was actually the one to say they wanted a scarier vibe but were unable to do so because of technical restrictions

[charred fox]

Ah i see

[visual sparrow]

server won't let me change my nickname, so im just gonna fulfill my Betruger quota

i STAN Betruger ❤️

[honest lynx]

If you change your name to Joe betruger everyone will love you

[tranquil onyx]

but why

[visual sparrow]

idkkkkk he's such a bad boy xD

he's super cute toooo omg

[tranquil onyx]

https://tenor.com/view/wtf-what-do-you-mean-obama-huh-what-gif-12344531

[vale hare]

i STAN Palpatine

[tranquil onyx]

https://tenor.com/view/emperor-palpatine-star-wars-revenge-of-the-sith-ian-mcdiarmid-smile-gif-16789260

[visual sparrow]

agreed

[supple gull]

Seeing how he pointed a gun at Ishii despite being told not to hurt him, I can see why.

[visual sparrow]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/846423368760819735/866409929401303100/unknown.png

[clear ridge]

hold on is that bfg edition

blasphemous

[visual sparrow]

it improves on Betruger's face model, therefore it is superior to the original

[clear ridge]

they say doom 3 is the black sheep of doom games, but i say they are wrong

DOOM 3: BFG EDITION is the REAL black sheep

[tranquil onyx]

Doom 3 is excellent

Doom 3 where you can carry a flashlight and shoot at the same time is heresy

[half plank]

💪

[clear ridge]

hold your fire it has bfg edition

[half plank]

BFG Edition isn't a bad game though.

[charred fox]

Betruger is awesome

[honest lynx]

I want to touch betrugers face in VR... but can't

Sad day

[honest lynx]

I don't know the light on the gun is tight

With a limited light range

Really solves that issue

Only get light where you point the gun

[supple gull]

Didn't know they used the crawling Imp on the Xbox

[half plank]

Betruger dating sim when

you could be his assistant or something.

[slate gulch]

Oh right Vulgars

Never explained why they have their own summon color

Though they are using an early Archvile model

[half plank]

yep

[slate gulch]

They might be personal minions of Betruger or the Maledict

[half plank]

so glad that wasnt the archie model

[slate gulch]

I like the birdman model they also didnt use

[half plank]

I do too.

or the big puffy thing

whatever that mightve been

[slate gulch]

I can see why they couldn't do arachnotrons as there are barely any rooms that could even hold one

Still having something shoot plasma back at you probably in a different color would really amp up a fight. They'd dominate any combat setup

[half plank]

Doom 3 but arena combat

change the physics and balancing to be like deathmatch.

[honest lynx]

Shit design

[half plank]

youre actually fast there

[supple gull]

I found it strange why they're the only ones with a green teleport. Looks more heavenly than hellish

[untold moon]

Nerve wanted to leave something that would be talked many years after

[viral briar]

Imagine Doom 3, but you walk faster and you can dash and double jump...

[tranquil onyx]

no

[clear ridge]

"and meathook and glory kill and" shut up play doom eternal if you want that

[outer osprey]

Imagine Doom 3, but Betruger doesn't die in RoE

[tranquil onyx]

I never actually played the expansion

I will in the coming months. I'm doing the whole series on my dumb stream

[outer osprey]

I bought Doom 3 plus RoE DLC in the summer sale

[tranquil onyx]

I bought doom 3... god like 10 years ago. the Aspyr store for mac, I think

[outer osprey]

Didn't buy the BFG Edition because I wanted mod support plus the original creepier vibe

[clear ridge]

If you’re gonna play doom 3 you wanna go all in

It’s not traditional doom fine go all the way with the new vibe

No compromises

[tranquil onyx]

Keep that flashlight off, marine!

[clear ridge]

Well don’t you need to use the flashlight to see sometimes

[outer osprey]

Me who heavily mods Classic DOOM

[clear ridge]

This is doom 3

[outer osprey]

I mean huh, I also bought the OG version for mod support

It's not just because the OG version is creepier and has less ammo

[tranquil onyx]

Yes to creepy, yes to less

[clear ridge]

Oh I’m just talking about vanilla

[tranquil onyx]

ugh. I said gimme gimme i want nightmares. but in all caps

bot does not like me!

[clear ridge]

Bot fucking despises everyone

[outer osprey]

I was surprised when I got to know that John Carmack originally intended for Doom 3 to have BFG Editions flashlight

[tranquil onyx]

really? I never heard that

[outer osprey]

I heard him saying it in a video

[tranquil onyx]

crazy

[slate gulch]

meanwhile a lot of enemies have glowing eyes

[honest lynx]

I think the limited range tunnel style gun light is the perfect inbetween idea. They really nailed it

[supple gull]

Another Xbox exclusive scene I forgot about. The ghostly visions of a chainsaw zombie in Delta Labs Sector 4.

[scenic stratus]

Doom 3 is a guilty pleasure of mine.

[slate gulch]

Why guilty

[honest lynx]

Play it faster. It's only as fast as the person playing it

Also it's one of the best VR games out right now

[tranquil onyx]

Doom 3 is in vr??

[honest lynx]

Yee

[tranquil onyx]

that sounds terrifying

[honest lynx]

Its pretty fantastic

[tranquil onyx]

booooooo playstation only?

[outer osprey]

it will also be faster once you reach the second half of the game, more weapons and shit to play with

good luck on your journey

[tranquil onyx]

I'm finding folks talking about the doom 3 mod for vr... but I'm not finding the actual mod

ah found it

[honest lynx]

No

Its on pc also

[clear ridge]

If you have oculus quest
Doom3quest on sidequest

Is that the one you got

[tranquil onyx]

I have Index, and there is a mod for it. But it's complicated so I'll do it some other time

[clear ridge]

Ah ok

Man my friends have an index

[tranquil onyx]

It's the best imo

[clear ridge]

I put it on and I exclaimed out loud

[tranquil onyx]

It's also very expensive

[clear ridge]

Difference between my quest and that is night and day

But that’s the price to pay to get it wireless

[tranquil onyx]

Index is not wireless

[clear ridge]

Oh yeah

[clear ridge]

The price to pay to get my quest wireless

[tranquil onyx]

Oh! You mean that the quality is the price you pay. got it

[clear ridge]

They got to fit a whole computer in that little box in the front

[tranquil onyx]

Yeah

I don't love the quest. Mostly because of facebook. Even if Carmack is involved... no

[clear ridge]

Lol I had to make a Facebook account for it
Used a fake name

Sometimes I post vr clips there from my quest so I can download them and share them

[tranquil onyx]

I stream VR sometimes

[clear ridge]

Yesterday I recorded all of my downtown gameplay for doom 2 in vr

Gonna edit it into something later

[clear ridge]

That’s a good idea

[tranquil onyx]

My favorite VR game so far is still Alyx but I found this indie puzzle shit called Maskmaker and it was excellent

[clear ridge]

Nice

Yeah half life alyx is the only triple a vr game you’re gonna see for a while

[tranquil onyx]

Most of my VR time has been in phasmophobia but that's mainly because it has co-op play with PC

[clear ridge]

Valve can afford the financial failure

[clear ridge]

Oh yeah phasmaphobia is excellent

I’ve tried it once in vr

Pcvr just isn’t very reliable on quest so I’m going to get virtual desktop for that

So I can just stream it from pc to headset

[tranquil onyx]

Yes, that's the best way

I'm excited though. I've been streaming all of DOOM and I'm definitely doing Doom 3 in vr, but that's not gonan be for a while. i only stream like once a week and I'm starting Doom 2 next

[clear ridge]

Gotta be careful not to buy the steam version cause that’s definitely NOT the one I wan

[clear ridge]

Nice

Doom and quake is like all I play in vr, and I play that pretty consistently

[supple gull]

I never noticed the Tick encounter was moved to Delta Labs Level 3 North on Xbox

[honest lynx]

Good old ticks

[supple gull]

Also there's a zombie type unique to the Xbox. He has on grey and moves slightly faster than standard ones with his arms reaching out.

[half plank]

I thought those guys were in the original too.

[plain parrot]

wow i had no idea there were two variations of the small spider enemy

i was like tf is a tick

[outer osprey]

trite 2.0

tbh ticks are creepier

[clear ridge]

what the fuck

[supple gull]

I like how the zombies have different models. Why they couldn't do this with 2016 or Eternal is beyond me.

[plain parrot]

but they did tho

[wanton juniper]

They did have different models in 2016

Not in eternal tho

[plain parrot]

eternal had 3 different base zombie models guys

and the mecha zombie

(which was a different enemy)

[clear ridge]

if you have a bunch of variety in the zombies in your game then what you doin man

[supple gull]

The Possessed Worker (who has a slower attack) and the Unwilling but that's about it. I mean different appearances in clothing and such.

[outer osprey]

well possessed soldiers are counted as zombies I assume?

[plain parrot]

if you count them and the mecha zombie eternal has 7

if you count the cueball, 8

screecher, 9

[wanton juniper]

Possessed worker, unwilling, and possessed security

[plain parrot]

also doom 3 probably has more because, like, priorities. a lot more small scale engagements than in later games

[wanton juniper]

Yeah

[honest lynx]

[supple gull]

IDK why but that guy who gets tossed out the window and screams like a girl in ROE tickles me

[half plank]

I want Doom 3 Xbox on PC

[exotic moon]

Its already on PC, it's called DOOM 3

[half plank]

Thanks, I know. The original Xbox port has a lot of differences compared to the original.

[tawdry arch]

hey

i'm new to the community

i wanna ask is doom 3 considered cannon ?

[scenic stratus]

i mean...kinda?

its more of a 'meanwhile' type of scenario

so it's not Doomguy/Doom Slayer but rather just some other guy who happens to also be facing off against the legions of Hell on a Phobos moon base

[versed estuary]

It doesn’t take place in the same universe

[versed estuary]

It happens in another multiverse, so “yes” but not canon to the slayers timeline

[tranquil onyx]

depends who you ask. I consider it a prequel to Doom

I refuse to recognize the multiverse until it I have no other choice

[honest lynx]

As hugo said?

[scenic stratus]

With Eternal, id basically confirmed that Doom 1, 2, and 64 (and maybe Final Doom) are prequels to 2016 and Eternal, but left it vague enough where you can make your own assumptions about exactly which parts of which Doom games and doom wads happened before 2016. A lot of people will explain Doom 3 as non-canon or an “alternate dimension”, but I think id purposely left the new timeline open and vague enough so that you can interpret what you want to be true.

While you could pretend that Doom 3 takes place first, and Doom 1 and onward is Doomguy discovering the aftermath, there’s actually a lot of connections id seems to have left open for Doom 3.

So this is how I would place the Doom timeline:

Doom Episodes 1-4 (2022)

Sigil (because why not)

Doom 2

TNT Evilution (2023)

Plutonia

Doom 64 + Lost Levels
(20??, short time after Doom 2)

Doom 3 Lost Mission

Doom 3 (2145)

Takes place a long time after Doomguy sealed himself in hell, Doomguy is stuck in the coffin by now, and without Doomguy to terrify the forces of Hell, Doom 3’s plot has an actual chance to happen. The world shattering events of classic doom are over a century old, the UAC has “reformed” and the actions of the UAC have been both forgiven and forgotten by the general public. They have further developed their technology and began experimentation on Mars. The Samuel Hayden and Olivia Pearce stuff is happening in the background. There are already members of the UAC board who are power hungry satanists [Betruger and Olivia Pearce, Betruger was actually more successful than Olivia was] but it is not widespread yet and people are only murmuring about strange happenings in UAC facilities. People are also whistleblowing, trying to warn people that the UAC has gone too far. You are not the same Doomguy, just a survivor.

You might say the “Ancient Martian civilization” lore of Doom 3 contradicts Doom 2016, but if you stretch just a little, it could be said that the discovery of an ancient civilization on Mars was them discovering evidence of the Argenti / Night Sentinel civilization who were, in fact, on Mars and Earth at some point (just like the Doom 3 Martians who left Mars for Earth) and the Soul Cube is Knight Sentinel tech. The interpretation that the Martians traveled to Earth and became the first humans could be a misinterpretation, due to their human-like nature.

Doom 2016 actually seems to borrow a little from Doom 3, with artifacts found by the UAC in Mars’ Argent fracture connecting to the ancient civilization of Argent D’nur, Night Sentinels, and also the Demonic Helix Stone.

Also, I’ll give you this quote from the Doom Wiki: “In the first mission The UAC after the player leaves the elevator, and a climbs a few edges, the inital outside arena appears to show ancient structures resembling those of the Martian structures of Doom 3, even so far to have been excavated and glowing hieroglyphics on the central pillar, whether these are Martian in origin, or Demon is unknown.”)

Doom 3 Resurrection of Evil (2147)

-The events of this DLC and the death of the Betruger Maledict dragon is one of the many reasons Samuel Hayden chooses to trek / investigate Hell, leading to the discovery of Doomguy’s coffin in Doom 2016)

Doom 2016 (2149)

-The events of Doom 3 have reached a boiling point. Olivia Pearce is attempting to pick up where Betruger left off. IMO them specifically choosing to set it just a few years after Doom 3 is evidence that Doom 3, while obviously unrelated, is still loosely canon to the Doom timeline. The technology seen in this game is not too different from the tech seen in Doom 3, vs Doom 1’s abstract UAC tech. The design of hell is somewhat similar also with the castles and floating rocks. Not to mention the Doom 3 Soul Cube in Samuel Hayden’s office, I know it’s just an Easter egg, but again I think id has played it smartly in that you can decide what is canon to you. After Doom 2, just about any Doom wad and Doom game can be canon, it’s left up to interpretation)

Doom Eternal (2163)

-It feels to me like id was purposely trying to make parts of this game’s lore connect to Doom 3, as in this game it’s revealed that the Night Sentinels had an entire city on Mars at one point that caved in over time, leaving only traces of their society behind.

these are NOT my words, reddit user Tom_Pettys_Beard wrote this

@versed estuary

[tranquil onyx]

That's completely different from my take lmao

[honest lynx]

Tnt and plutonia occurred around the same time. But you aren't the slayer in tnt. You're someone known as the marine commander

[versed estuary]

Doom 1-2-64 are 1 Earth
Doom 3 is another earth
Doom 2016/eternal is another Earth

Currently doom has 3 parallel universes

[tranquil onyx]

Then why does Doomguy from Eternal have the suit from 1-2-64

[versed estuary]

It’s the same slayer

He is the only constant from doom 1-2-64-2016-eternal

Basically doom 1-2- happens

He gets stuck in hell with 64

Since hell is the same for every universe

He Ends up getting sent to the sentinals

[tranquil onyx]

Oh so your argument is that there are alternate earths but only the one Hell for the whole multiverse

[versed estuary]

From there he gains divinity machine etc,
And falls asleep in hell,

From there Hayden takes him out and puts in on Mars, but this is now another universe

[versed estuary]

I mean it’s not just my argument, Hugo already said it too

[tranquil onyx]

Eh

I don't count hugo's interviews

only the released product counts

[versed estuary]

He is literally the creative director

[tranquil onyx]

Yeah, don't care. If it's not in the game/codex it doesn't count. Hugo can change his mind

[versed estuary]

._.

Then using your logic, the games still can’t connect anyways

Because the in game content contradicts itself
Especially with timelines
Technology
And events

[tranquil onyx]

That is correct, yes

[versed estuary]

And the only way they would connect,

Since it’s been confirmed it’s the same main character

Would be multiverse

[tranquil onyx]

So my argument there is very simple:

Multiverses are dumb, stupid, and I hate them. Would much rather just change the dates on existing Dooms for retconning

[versed estuary]

Oh I agree on that

I hate multiverse stuff

Seems like a lazy way to connect things
Retcon things
And make up whatever you want
With no reprucussions

[honest lynx]

Barely works for marvel and they've been doing it for decades

[versed estuary]

Oh why is it completely differently now?
Next earth

[tranquil onyx]

Nah, just time skip like Elder Scrolls or Fallout. It's been a while and humans are doing stupid demon shit again

[versed estuary]

Rather they just start all new stories without feeling the need to hardcore connect things across it all

[versed estuary]

Time skip would also have been solid

[honest lynx]

But if anything works with mutiverses it's stories around hell I guess

[brisk surge]

I listened to Blood Swamps and it was the best 11 min of my life

[tawdry arch]

So the doomslayer is the same from doom 1,2 final doom and 64

as for doom 3 i think it's truy a whole universe but it's canon since it relates to the whole doom lroe from 1 to eternal

maybe the earth from doom 1 , 2 , 64 is not as same as the one from 3 and eternal

that explains why the earth from eternal i doesn't have any experience to go against demon's attacks

like if the earth from doom 2 was invaded again by demons in eternal they would know how to beat them and their weaknesses

by the way thanks guys

for explaining doom 3

#833975896196120626

that explains also why the icon of sin from doom eternal is different from the one from doom 2

[tawdry arch]

yh

i said the doomsday from 1 , 2 64 is the same as 2016 and eternal

[supple gull]

Since people on Mars desired the plasma rifle, I wonder why they didn't make any Terminator references.

[scenic stratus]

how can i use doom 3 editor if i have doom 3 bfg edition on steam? does anyone know how?

[clear ridge]

You’ll probably need the real doom 3

[gentle plinth]

In my opinion, Doom 3 is canonical and this is the reason, after Doom Guy stays in Hell after killing the resurrected mother / demon mother, while Doom Guy remains in Hell while he is there, Doom 3 It happens and I have things that ensure that. . then the demons seem mutated since if they did not know before Doom 64 the uac sent radiation to the bases of Mars where the demons were and unfortunately a vile Arch survived and revived the other demons but now they mutated and some survived and reached the bases from the uac

[tranquil onyx]

most of that made a little sense

[scenic stratus]

↑

[honest lynx]

Sounds good. However the time / year needs to be changed

[gentle plinth]

Oh ok Thanks

for your opinion

[hollow tundra]

What version of doom 3 is better, BFG edition or the original game?

[clear ridge]

The original

“Doom 3: Bright Fucking Game Edition”

[hollow tundra]

alright, $150 steam giftcard it is

yes, I use gift cards instead of a credit/debit card, dont bully me

[clear ridge]

[hollow tundra]

yeah, my grandpa is gonna give me $300 if I cut my hair

[clear ridge]

You know yesterday was my birthday and my friends got me 90 dollars in steam wallet money

[hollow tundra]

and imma use that for a $150 steam gift card

[clear ridge]

What am I gonna do with 90 steam dollars

[hollow tundra]

oh, then happy late birthday!

[clear ridge]

I already got every doom game for under 50 dollars

[clear ridge]

Thanks!

[hollow tundra]

do you have doom eternal

[clear ridge]

Oh yeah

[hollow tundra]

do you have ancient gods pt 1 and/or 2?

[clear ridge]

64 and doom 3 I got as birthday presents from other friends

[clear ridge]

That is a purchase I will not be doing for a long while

[hollow tundra]

oh

[clear ridge]

Might not even do it period

We’ll see

[hollow tundra]

then uhh buy Super Meat Boy or Wonder Boy: The Dragon's Trap

those games are pretty cheap and very fun

oh and/or freedom planet, that game is fun too

[clear ridge]

Lol

We’ll see

I wanna extend it for as long as possible

One thing I want is probably amnesia: the dark descent

[scenic stratus]

again, i have a theory that DOOM 3 is a 'meanwhile' kind of thing, so its going either right after DOOM 64 happened, with the Slayer in Hell, or after he is put into his sarcophagus. Another theory I have is literally the same but the Marine was sent to watch over the Slayer's resting place. It makes sense that he would be in his sarcophagus since there are demons running around because the Slayer isn't there to rip and tear them to shreds.

[scenic stratus]

hmmm ok

[gentle plinth]

No idea, I have not tried it

[honest lynx]

Even so it's a different UAC so most likely different dimension

[scenic stratus]

or perhaps a different branch of the UAC

like how there's different branches of the military

[honest lynx]

They are extremely behind technologically from the UAC of 2016. To the point if doom 3 was 2098 as an example it would make sense

[scenic stratus]

Yeah because it most likely takes place after doom 64

Also the pda files say it at least 2145

[honest lynx]

It can't take place after doom 64 because it's documented in 3 that it's first contact with hell in 3. Even the top secret info says so. Unfortunately doom 3 would have to be another dimension in the multiverse

Would have made a great prequel though

[tranquil onyx]

this is my take. change the year and poof! it's a prequel

[plain parrot]

yea

id doubt even the developers pay as much attention to canon as the fans lol

they probably all just said "okay its the future uhhh year 2XXX"

[scenic stratus]

Original because it was far more atmospheric and I honestly prefer the original flashlight mechanic over the simplified version we got in BFG. Some character models were made arguably worse to. The BFG edition only has one leg up on the original which is the inclusion of 3’s dlc and Doom 1/2.

[half plank]

1 and 2 ports are balls there. Lost Mission can be modded in, and RoE is cheap too. For a dollar less, just buy the superior 1 and 2 unity ports, and the original version of 3.

[tranquil onyx]

why are they bad? That's the only version of original doom I've played

[half plank]

Nightmare is made tamer, Wolfenstein levels have been censored, red crosses on medikits have become pills. 35 fps cap, 4:3 only, and the default midi player is mediocre.

Oh and map 2 has a broken secret exit wall that makes you restart the map.

Final point, random sfx pitch.

[tranquil onyx]

jesus christ I barely made my way through UV, I had to give up on nightmare

[half plank]

Not absolutely the worst Doom experiences btw. Just a lot to be desired.

[tranquil onyx]

None of the rest of that matters to me, it looks close enough and it sounds close enough. and the med kits are absolutely crosses, not pills. I played likie a few days ago lol

[half plank]

the bfg edition versions?

unmodded bfg edition classic medikits absolutely are pills

[clear ridge]

You should buy doom 1 and 2

[plain parrot]

i like eternal's solution of the white cross with the red outline. if they could get that in the classic ports itd be ideal

the green cross is hella ugly

yea

[half plank]

green cross was introduced in an update for the unity port. the bfg edition ports use the pills like the 360 version

[plain parrot]

the classic music in bfg edition sounds really good, does anyone know what soundfont it's using for the midis? its got a lot of reverb too. ive never heard that music sound the way it does in bfg

[half plank]

Pretty sure it's just Gravis Ultrasound

[plain parrot]

thanks bro

[wintry olive]

I hate those pills. Those ugly, ugly pills

[tranquil onyx]

why i already bought them when i bought doom 3

[gentle plinth]

Oh ok

[fiery kettle]

doom 3 is bad ngl

[honest lynx]

Said the dude who never played it

[half plank]

I am going to now write a novel on why you are factually incorrect.

[honest lynx]

He won't read it. He needs to buy more skins for counter strike guns at the moment

[tranquil onyx]

oi gtfo

[fiery kettle]

I did

Have 107 mins on it

[versed estuary]

And what’s bad about it?

[tranquil onyx]

It's different from the other Dooms. But it's incredible

[slate gulch]

It's not all that different once you understand it

[tranquil onyx]

Eh, the other Dooms aren't focused on lighting and horror. Carmack was thrilled to show off his new lighting tech. The new and old dooms don't have that as a gameplay element

They also don't have jumpscares. Doom 3 is full of dread around every corner in these tight and narrow spaces

It's fundamentally built different, and I see that as its greatest strength

[fiery kettle]

guys im sorry

its just not my favorite doom game

[tranquil onyx]

Great it's not my favorite either

[honest lynx]

Thats fine

Move on then

[tranquil onyx]

don't come to the doom 3 channel to talk shit lmao

[honest lynx]

If I don't like something I dont invest my time into it any further

[fiery kettle]

ok

just running away is not fun like killing them

[tranquil onyx]

so kill them

[honest lynx]

If you're running away you're playing it wrong

[tranquil onyx]

hahahaha that's what the guns are for

[versed estuary]

^

[fiery kettle]

nono

the fact is

[tranquil onyx]

Imma stream some doom 3 just to shoot some demons that I am not running from

[versed estuary]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/734640822015885332/825774678823665684/video0.mp4

[fiery kettle]

that doom 3 isnt like fps,fast paced like the other doom games

[tranquil onyx]

It's BFG, sorry to you purists

[versed estuary]

This isn’t fast?

[slate gulch]

Run into them open fire and keep running

[honest lynx]

Sweaty nightmare https://imgur.com/a/APFPapa

[slate gulch]

Doom 3's pacing is entirely dependent on you

[fiery kettle]

okay

[versed estuary]

If you are slow, the game is slow

[fiery kettle]

i have doom 3 and 2016 on steam

[versed estuary]

And I have every doom on switch

[slate gulch]

and my axe

[fiery kettle]

beat 2016 last year

[honest lynx]

https://imgur.com/a/WHmvddm

[slate gulch]

If you wanted you could have done that chainsaw only

[tranquil onyx]

Come watch in voice 1 IF YOU DARE

[honest lynx]

Why would I

I love the plasma

Its my baby

[fiery kettle]

how to post pics here

[slate gulch]

For the hell of it. Archviles stand still long enough for it to kill them and commandos are dead once you duck. Chainsaw dps is insane in 3

[fiery kettle]

theres no + icon

[honest lynx]

Nightmare reflexes https://imgur.com/a/GopxIRY

[slate gulch]

In addition to the loud clangs of the canisters I love the subtle sizzling sounds after something is hit

[honest lynx]

Fuck ya !

[fiery kettle]

whats your favorite demon

[versed estuary]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/680650470271877132/868545149750345728/video0.mov

Nightmare reflexes you say

[slate gulch]

Maledict

[honest lynx]

That wasn't reflexes that was looking into the future

[versed estuary]

Opened my third eye

[slate gulch]

I played it enough that sometimes.I remember exactly where an enemy is going to be

[fiery kettle]

the dragon type guy in doom 3

[slate gulch]

But I cant remember where every single one is so sometimes I still have to think fast

It is tradition that the creepy eyes in Alpha 4 go down and I jump behind the crates at it

Also that one crate room that has a spot you can jump into where maggots cant do anything to you. Crate fort

At this point I've played it enough that I look for spots that seem like a cozy place to hole up, fortify, and wait it all out

This game also made me wish Guns & Nachos was a real magazine

[honest lynx]

Id sub to that

[slate gulch]

I'd say the coziest spot is the security station where the door never unlocks from outside and it has to be teleported into but that's in Delta where demonic activity is at unsafe levels

[tranquil onyx]

Yes because demonic activity is generally so safe in Doom

[supple gull]

Mancubi shoulda been used more in Doom 3

[tranquil onyx]

They were kind of minibosses, like the Hell Knights

Doom 3 mostly focused on what we now call fodder demons and I respect that choice

[slate gulch]

RoE has bruisers in more aggressive mancubi and hell Knight roles

I know that they were part of a cancelled idea where they'd pretend to be a monitor until you got close they had to scrap but only recently have I thought about how that still doesn't make sense as the demons in 3 dont seem to have got their technology from the UAC

The specimen entry on Revenants both says that they already had that battle armor and that they have no idea how it fires the missiles

[outer osprey]

Hell Knight

[tranquil onyx]

I like the tiny spider jawns, they creepy as hell

[outer osprey]

Is it just me or RoE is actually very long

Just got to the level where you get the BFG (secret?) under the monorails

I think I'm still halfway through

[supple gull]

ROE has a shitload of dead marines, which shows you they came back prepared, but they still got easily wrecked

[outer osprey]

it's very great

might try that lost mission mod sometime later though

Bruiser is a really nice enemy, it's Mancubus but not a Mancubus at the same time, dunno

[supple gull]

So I saved that civilian from the Z-Sec in Delta Level 3 South on Xbox, but then an Imp spawned behind me and got him

[brisk coral]

Doom 3 sent me back like 10 missions to the stupidest part of the game

I was on a terribly confusing mission and then I take a break then go back to being sent back multiple missions.

[half plank]

no, no i dont think i will

[honest lynx]

Let's not

[supple gull]

Fat zombies pack a wallop on high difficulties

[tranquil onyx]

Yes

Keep your distance

[supple gull]

Got punched by one and he took 30-33 points of health away

[tranquil onyx]

Play 2016 on nightmare, those imps can one-shot you especially in the early game (but still also in the late game)

[sullen pagoda]

Anyone played the VR version yet?

[steep hollow]

I haven’t but I only started Doom 3 last week first time. I think people must have been expecting 2016 at the time of release. But it’s actually a cool horror game in retrospect

[steep hollow]

Hello Andy

[honest lynx]

Not yet but all the things I've heard about it are very very good

[wintry olive]

Is doom 3 BFG worth it on console?

Like the 360 version

[wintry olive]

how did the Xbox one/PS4 port improve on it exactly?

[sullen pagoda]

I love Doom 3 even though it has a lot wrong with it in the later levels. I'm just upset that Doom 3 VR isnt on PC and/or that it runs much smoother and better than DOOM VR does.

Also that you dont play as The Slayer in DOOM VR

[tranquil onyx]

Yeah, I haven't played it because it's a mod and mods for VR are... janky

[sullen pagoda]

I saw that it ran pretty smooth from the videos I've seen

How come they can make that one good but the one we get on PC is janky

[tranquil onyx]

Idk

VR has many weaknesses right now. It's a small market that is VERY fragmented by the existence of the Quest

Instead of it being like "VR is VR" it's like consoles now. Myst VR is out for the quest but not PC, for example. And I wanna play Myst god dammit

[sullen pagoda]

Well i just checked and it says its coming to PC this fall, so you're in luck

[tranquil onyx]

Myst or Doom3?

[wanton juniper]

a lot wrong with it in the later levels

I hope you mean the earlier levels

[wintry olive]

The early parts of doom 3 are 😴

Administration onwards is good

[wintry olive]

doom 3

seems like it’s just the same version of doom 3 to me

[dusky flint]

I didn't know DOOM 3's Plasma Rifle was reused in DOOM

[midnight fjord]

the icon of sin fight only in the perfected mod or in the base game?

[clear ridge]

Only in the mod

[midnight fjord]

ah

[supple gull]

Got a vid of the Xbox-exclusive zombie. I'll make a gif of it later

[scenic stratus]

Doom 3 plasma rifle is pog

[honest lynx]

Its a beast

[outer osprey]

true

[supple gull]

Doom 3 gun designs are awesome but I can't tell if the MG is an SMG or an assault rifle.

[honest lynx]

Its a beast of a gun

[supple gull]

Grenades are bouncy AF

[outer osprey]

There isn't a single DOOM game that doesn't make you feel satisfied while bombing enemies with grenades

[half plank]

What about the games without grenades?

[honest lynx]

I will literally melt your face andy

[wintry olive]

the Melting Appliance

[outer osprey]

with forcing you to finish Maximum DOOM twice in a single night

[supple gull]

According to Steve Hammer, yes

Since the UAC has so much firepower lying around, it's almost like they were anticipating a demonic invasion

[visual sparrow]

oh crap, i forgot to fill my Betruger love quota
uh...
Betruger is hot
there

thank you for coming to my Ted talk

[tranquil onyx]

gross

[slate gulch]

"Making passes, are we?"

[outer osprey]

Betruger is a fine antagonist

Nobody is hotter than the DOOM 3 Marine for me

Imo he's hotter than the DOOM Marine from the main storyline

[tranquil onyx]

gross

[wintry olive]

the doom 3 protagonist reminds me of elvis and I can’t possibly explain how

[outer osprey]

understandable

[slate gulch]

The RoE guy looks like Betruger's son or something by contrast

[supple gull]

I wonder how Doom3guy's life will be back on Earth after all he went through

[slate gulch]

Well after RoE the demons are stopped forever

And the Cyberdemon was the only one that actually remotely scared him

[outer osprey]

Buy a Super Turbo Turkey Puncher machine and play it for eternity.

[slate gulch]

He may have recieved a medal for bravery and a very large retirement fund to not sue the UAC

Alternatively Martian Archeology opens back up and this time no demons or marsquakes

[honest lynx]

Hes Joe betruger

[slate gulch]

So he was tempted into touching the hellstone but never allied with Hell

[honest lynx]

This is a gold theory.... he came to see if his dad was alive

Maybe he heard his father in the heart

[slate gulch]

Making him Son of the Betruger

[supple gull]

Always like how you kill Bertruger in ROE after it seems like he got away in the main game

Expansion packs are the proper way to continue a story, unlike Halo's method

[slate gulch]

I actually always wondered why Betruger let Elizabeth McNeil go but now I think I get it. She was in Delta already and pretty high level, and she came really close to exposing and ruining everything. Not to mention she has direct contact with Swann and if anything had happened to her he wouldn't even have bothered with an investigation, he'd have just shut it down, before Betruger could even start the invasion. On top of that she got sent to Earth which was his last stop anyway

[outer osprey]

I really hated Betruger, good thing we killed that fucker in the RoE

[honest lynx]

Betruger ain't dead

[slate gulch]

Yeah I think itd be more fitting he's now in Hell but as a tortured soul in the deepest pit instead of ruling it

[honest lynx]

Thats way fitting. Trapped powering the heart

[slate gulch]

Didnt the artifact blow up?

You cant have left that thing in Hell because that's where they wanted it

Could be that it tried to eat the Maledict and got overloaded

[honest lynx]

I always assumed it was just absorbed back into hell

[slate gulch]

That wouldn't have been good because getting it back in Hell in their possession is what they wanted

[outer osprey]

bruh I thought he died

[slate gulch]

He died in Hell

[honest lynx]

Well it was crafted of hell so that's why I was like no way its just destroyed

Yeah he's dead but not actually dead dead

[slate gulch]

It's not seen when his skull is rolling

[outer osprey]

good

[slate gulch]

If it couldn't be destroyed because it was made of Hell you shouldn't have been able to kill the Maledict

Though the soul Cube definitely seems indestructible because they'd have done that

[honest lynx]

Well its not supposed to be able to be destroyed so that's the weird thing

[slate gulch]

Oh apparently somewhere along the lines you're returning it Hell because it can be destroyed there

Probably in one of the cutscenes I skip

[honest lynx]

Ahhhhh that makes sense .. so does that mean the soul cube can be destroyed on Mars?

[slate gulch]

It might have been destroyed closing the portal

[honest lynx]

Exactly.. fits then !

[slate gulch]

The alternative is that the heart absorbed the Maledict and the engineer died and some other demon can pick that up and become a god

And earth gets destroyed by a random vulgar because they almost always appear after someone talks about it

I wonder if Betruger had something to do with not just their creation but bruisers

Their original purpose would make more sense if it was his idea

[honest lynx]

That TV mouth still weird me out

[slate gulch]

Couldn't get the fake monitor thing to work and like I said why would a demon even be doing that

It might be a weak spot

[supple gull]

Where do cybrids (stinky pinkies, lost souls, etc.) get their cybernetics from?

[honest lynx]

The uac

And Martan tech id guess

[slate gulch]

They didnt get it from the UAC

They'd have known and understood revenant battle armor

[honest lynx]

Thats just the revs

Imps were clearly being experimented with and betruger definitely helped them with tech and understanding humans

[slate gulch]

They'd have shown us somewhere they were grafting the things onto them

[honest lynx]

Not if it was a super tiny cult compared to that of 2016

Maybe betruger and only a couple others

[slate gulch]

They'd have had to be doing it somewhere

I think it was only betruger because there were no other survivors

[honest lynx]

Here's another idea. How hell was merging with the Mars base.. phasing it to its design it could have easily absorbed and used tech and information for its purposes

[slate gulch]

Then again Delta was definitely doing some weird shit

Unlike 2016 though they had to hide it because no one was going to let them do that and even then, the Delta crew don't seem to have realized it was Hell

[supple gull]

About that civilian on the Xbox version who gets gunned down, I killed the Z-Sec AND the Imp that spawned behind me to kill him, and he died. He's scripted to die if you kill the Imp.

[honest lynx]

Also when you enter hell for long periods of time hell can look into your mind and influence it. Tech could have been extracted easily

[slate gulch]

I think the whole thing hinged on Betruger being the only one who knew it was Hell, with everyone else involved in the Delta work being a bit more like half life thinking of 'it's just some weird alien place with aliens in it and there won't be unforeseen consequences'

[supple gull]

O I C wut u ded thar

[slate gulch]

Someone would have blown the whistle before Elizabeth who would have told Swann about that part at least in he's getting creepily obsessed with what is obviously not a good place

[honest lynx]

Well uac is the definition of trying to see what they can do rather than if they should do it

[slate gulch]

In 3 it took longer than classic for it to actually go wrong. The possessed machinery and occasional monster attack are isolated and no one knows what's going on with them, and in 3 of course most of the demons dont outright look like demons

Then Swann shows up and Betruger just throws open the gate

It would seem to.be like Event Hprizon. Hell got into and infected the mars base real fast, and demons started being able to be directly teleported almost anywhere

[honest lynx]

Alot like event ! Especially the corruption of the mind aspect

[slate gulch]

First thing that happens is that shockwave, but that must have had something to do with Betruger too.

He must have told them it was time

But he didnt have everything perfectly ready because he never expected Swann to show up or the board to have listened and taken the report seriously

[supple gull]

And you hear his laughter when the invasion starts.

[slate gulch]

So he at best half ass hid the soul Cube

He throws you into hell itself where he knows the thing is

[honest lynx]

I always guessed it didn't go perfect because he have to speed up the timelone because of the visit

[slate gulch]

if Swann had made it to Delta he would have immediately said 'No. Shut this down right now.'

[honest lynx]

Also a few at the uac were catching on to it being actual hell

[honest lynx]

Yep game over for betruger

[slate gulch]

He'd have seen the specimens, the artifacts, and even without Hell being involved he would at least know there was some kind of black market shit the UAC didnt have time for. They dont care about Hell, they only wanted teleporters

[supple gull]

I think Specialist Wilson is the dead Marine with the plasma gun in the EnPro Plant

[slate gulch]

They didnt catch on even after guys kept coming back going crazy, turning into zombies but first screaming about hell and souls and one guy ranting in Aramaic

[honest lynx]

They just wanted their product. I wonder what he'll offered betruger though or if it was even the same person or if the maledict possesed him

[honest lynx]

There was betrugers partner in lost missions with the disc on betrugers real intentions. He wasn't able to send the info on time

[slate gulch]

Supposedly he had a dream and they made a promise to give him power

[honest lynx]

Yeah I remember the dream thing but I think after they had his mind he was just pure re written

[slate gulch]

Might have been in one of the novels as those were written by the author they hired to make the plot Matthew J. Costello

Except the third one never came out

But we know the marines name is John Kane I guess

[honest lynx]

I really should read the novels but at the same time I don't want to

[supple gull]

ROE says Doom3guy is the only survivor but Lost Mission and Resurrection (the mobile game) show there were other survivors

[honest lynx]

Doom marine

[outer osprey]

Yeah but the Doom Marine isn't in the same universe

I think

[sullen pagoda]

DOOM Multiverse

[honest lynx]

According to doom wiki doom 3 guys name is the doom marine or doom 3 marine

[outer osprey]

oh yeah, all main DOOM protagonists are called the DOOM Marine so there might be a little confusion sometimes

[supple gull]

Or simply The Marine

[half plank]

the bastard doesnt even wear a helmet

[outer osprey]

"bastard"? die

I'm a DOOM 3 Marine enjoyer
(ironic cause I used doomguy's emote)

[supple gull]

The Combat Engineer does, at the beginning and at the toxic part

[clear ridge]

I want to read them they sound fuckin crazy

[clear ridge]

No there’s doomguy that’s his name

[outer osprey]

well I think the classic one is just Doomguy, but his newer version is all three combined: The DOOM Slayer, Doomguy, and the DOOM Marine

[clear ridge]

Doom marine is a different character entirely

Doomguy and doom slayer are the same guy but doom marine is completely different

[outer osprey]

how so?

the title of the DOOM Slayer's codex entry in 2016 is literally "DOOM Marine"

[clear ridge]

Well
I’m talking about the doom marine character from doom 3

That’s a different person

But doom marine is kind of a general name

[outer osprey]

Yeah, both are different characters but they bear the same name lol

[clear ridge]

Makes more sense just to call em doomguy and doom slayer

[outer osprey]

true

[half plank]

I enjoy him too.

[outer osprey]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/795980789187608646/870177345586208848/Enzjd0rXYAA-pQ7.png

[scenic stratus]

Haha look at that grin hes happy about who he is.... For now

[urban radish]

playing through Doom 3 classic for the first time since the original Xbox version back in the day. Enjoying it a lot better that i did when i played the bfg version.

[scenic stratus]

I want to to try that at sum point

[loud fog]

doom 3 when no hell

doom 3 when has hell

[vale hare]

Best series B movie

[slim willow]

Install helmet mod

[light cypress]

hi

is there someone that can help me to play whit my firends doom 3 co op

we try a few mods and we codnt understand how to play together

[honest lynx]

Thats because it is better. Unless you're doing bfg nightmare or vr

[outer osprey]

I wouldn't do that personally. His face is too good looking to be covered by a helmet. His beauty must be seen

also quick reminder dear marines, DOOM 3 will be 17 years old by the 3rd of August

[honest lynx]

We must celebrate. On that day post your favorite picture of betruger

[outer osprey]

Time to replay DOOM 3 and take a screenshot of Betruger, saving it for that day

[honest lynx]

" they ll get their product "

[outer osprey]

continuing ROE. how long is this fucking DLC, it never ends lmfao

[scenic stratus]

So I got to that part where you choose to use the EFR system or the service bridge
Just remembered why I would usually pick the bridge