I’m referring to the actual shotgun fire
#doom-3
vagrant holly
so the shotgun without the stuff that makes it unique
honest lynx
Half life 2 is just a overhyped bore fest. Doom 3 was definitely an amazing game.
versed estuary
The actual shotgun fire
vagrant holly
well, the "actual shotgun fire" shreds stuff in Eternal
in 2016 it sucks, I give you that
honest lynx
For it's time. It was unmatched. Sure its aged but I still enjoy playing it once or twice a year
vagrant holly
nope, from mid range you can gib low level enemies in Eternal
you just have to you know, aim 😄
honest lynx
Pretty sure he can aim
vagrant holly
at 30 fps? I couldn't
versed estuary
With controller
No aim assist
versed estuary
What’s funny?
honest lynx
You sound like the dumbest noob hater I've seen on discord for a long time... fuck you make me cringe kid
vagrant holly
nope, that's still not enough to get my attention
versed estuary
What’s funny?
I repeat myself
honest lynx
No one cares about your attention.. you're a literal embarrassment. Go back to cod
Hahahahah this kids a joke
vagrant holly
but for the record yes, you can aim well with a controller, I just don't think it's fair to compare it to mouse aim
versed estuary
...................who compared it to mouse aim
vagrant holly
and you know, you can check the spread of Eternal's combat shotgun, it has an exact pattern that's always the same and its spread is far less than what you have in Doom 3
plus that stuff's random too
honest lynx
Imagine having no skill and then coming in a chat to put someone down better than you. Not only are your takes horrible but how much of a hater you come off ass is actually making me embarrassed for you.
vagrant holly
I'm sad to inform you that you're the only one here who degraded himself to using personal insults
it's fine, I mean I don't care what random sociopaths tell me on the internet but still, it's a bit weird to start a conversation by lashing out on people
versed estuary
Shotguns are random spread in eternal
honest lynx
You sound fucking unbearable. What a clown
vagrant holly
again: this is not how humans talk to each other
vagrant holly
Shotguns are random spread in eternal
really? Even if there is some variety I don't think it's random but set patterns
that don't deviate much at all
versed estuary
Nope it’s random
The Battlemode discord has been complaining about the random spread for months
vagrant holly
oh, Battlemode
people still play that?
with that netcode? 😄
I don't think it's random spread but feel free to prove me wrong
I think it's similar to how for example Unreal handled the flak cannon
in that you have 3-4 set patterns that randomly appear
little raven
with that netcode? 😄
The netcode that was fixxed about a month ago
vagrant holly
I'm planning to give it another chance but I had very much enough of it when the game launched
went back to Quake Champions because you know, that game has good netcode at least
vagrant holly
you can post emotes under a message, you don't have to reply if you want to post something like that
anyway what I find interesting in Doom 3 is that first Half-Life "stole" Doom's concept and changed it to the point where it was this linear, "cinematic" adventure
then Doom 3 was like "hey, we want that stuff" basically and stole Half-Life's general gameplay and level design 😄
it's so weird, the game's one third Doom, one third Half-Life and one third System Shock 2
honest lynx
Hmmm that's actually true. It was heavily influenced by it. And some things were straight copied. I have to admit thats a good take
vagrant holly
and the visuals actually hold up quite nicely, I always loved the part where Hell is taking over the facility
that's some good shit
honest lynx
I think It is an amazing hell concept. Definitely darker for sure
vagrant holly
when it comes to Hell I think 2016 and Eternal do it the best, in 3 it's a very short section with not much about it being memorable
but how 3 fuses the tech bases with the hellish stuff is super great
and the game's really this mechanical weirdo sadly
like for example you have really fast weapon switching, it's not "weapon combos" like in 2016 and Eternal but it's fast enough for a "boomer shooter"
but you can't interrupt reload animations, not even with weapon switching
the only example is the shitegun because it's the Half-Life shotgun but worse
and then the camera is just jumping all around the place when you get hit or shot
so I'm like "okay Doom 3 now what do you want to be, FPS or survival horror?"
the visuals and the art design make it memorable, mechanically it's all around the place and as a shooter it's not only easier and more boring than Doom 1 and 2
but also a lot more shallow than Half-Life (or HL2 and HL2 has an objectively boring, super standard arsenal)
I mean if you copy Half-Life then at least copy Half-Life well 😄
round iron
anyone here know anything about doom 3 modding?
vagrant holly
I can install mods 😄
honest lynx
I should mention the grenades are fantastic if you know how to use them properly
I still have a 5 or 6 second vagary kill time using the nades
Might actually be 4
vagrant holly
yeah, just throw em straight to get rid of the bounciness and they work well
anyway speaking of mods: Phobos is still the best Doom 3
Episode 2 came out like 2 months ago and it kicks all kinds of ass
and that mod has a good shotgun because it's Doom 3 with great gameplay 😄
now that's a shotgun
honest lynx
Phobos has a fantastic story as well. Just weird enough for my liking
vagrant holly
also: Doom 3 bathrooms
and the shitegun looks bad with a high FoV because of course it does
half plank
Doom 3 bad haha
charred fox
It’s funny cause I feel like doom 3 has better pacing than hl1 
That game was all over the place as good as it is
honest lynx
It definitely does
charred fox
Doom 3 has reloading yeah but that doesn’t stop the game from throwing shit at you to make sure you’re constantly prepared
honest lynx
Enjoyed it more than generic shooter half life 2 that's for sure
honest lynx
The driving mechanics in 2 😅😅
Oh god
Nothing exciting about half life 2 at all. Just a physics demo
charred fox
Lol
honest lynx
Generic as fuck
charred fox
The driving sections
I really like 2’s atmosphere but yea I forgot about all the driving and boating
Need to learn how to backwards hop and it’ll be fun!!!
honest lynx
The combat is insanely easy and meh. It's the definition of playing it safe
charred fox
Aww
half plank
Doom 3 technically "played it safe" too by slowing the pace, and adding some more military things
honest lynx
By playing it safe I mean sticking to a proven formula for the franchise
half plank
I mean changing the formula a little bit to fit in with the popular games of the time.
It's close to the classic style in many ways, but you simply cannot deny the fact that it's different.
little raven
All the doom games changed the formula
If every doom game was doom 1 doom probably wouldnt be around today or atleast it wouldnt be as relevant
honest lynx
I just dont see an sort of change between half life 1 and 2 to get it the praise it has
half plank
I don't think Half Life is a bad series, it just isn't for me.
honest lynx
Just a physic gimmick
Not at all
It's a okay game
But it doesnt have the random weird charm of 3
Cant see myself replying it often
little raven
Doom 2 added new weapons and made the maps huge
64 made it into this colorful nightmarish hellscape
3 modernized it and went full on with horror like 64 did
2016 made it a violence gorefest with tons of fighting while keeping that dark atmosphere more in kin with 3 and 64
And doom eternal tripled down on the movement and weapons of 2016 and went for a more colorful style like doom 1
All the games are doom
But changed in a new way each time
half plank
Fluffy summed it up
honest lynx
The elders are here
versed estuary
If it ain’t broke
scenic stratus
ok mr. i give prostate exams to demons
charred fox
Actually that would be me
scenic stratus
hitscans dont go in a cone they go in a goddamn roundabout
versed estuary
ok mr. i give prostate exams to demons
Just remember this is a legit occupation irl
charred fox
scenic stratus
wha?
versed estuary
( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°)
honest lynx
ok mr. i give prostate exams to demons
This guy has heard me say this before this is my line
versed estuary
^
scenic stratus
i can steal lines as much as i want
charred fox
Oh my god
scenic stratus
hence i vote for the enforcer machinegun for the new workhorse weapon
charred fox
Yeah
versed estuary
Shotgun + sub machine gun is my go to combo
charred fox
Its based off the p90 isnt it?
scenic stratus
i have the perfect idea for a gun
honest lynx
Enforcer is actually a future rip design on the p90
scenic stratus
automatic assault rifle that shoots 50. action express
honest lynx
And people always say ohhh but that's not futuristic... as a gun owner... no recoil on a full auto is 100 percent futuristic
charred fox
Lol yeah
scenic stratus
hell none of the guns have recoil
versed estuary
I call it a smg because it’s literally he size
And movement of an smg
Plus the fire rate sound
honest lynx
It's a bulpup recoil operated SMG. Despite the name
scenic stratus
is it really bullpup though?
honest lynx
No hahaha
scenic stratus
i mean, I'd call it a schwimbe schwomble future gun mechanism smg.
charred fox
Schwomble
honest lynx
Basically yeah I have to agree
charred fox
You wanna know what I'm loading right now
honest lynx
But you'll notice the ejection port and trigger placement is bul
sullen hill
Tbh i dont see mucj differemce between the machine gun and the chain gun
half plank
and does more damage.
versed estuary
Chaingun shoots slower but stronger
half plank
machine gun is for less damage but higher speed and accuracy
chaingun is for more damage but less speed and accuracy
sullen hill
I mean regarding damage there isn't much
charred fox
Chaingun also loads a lot faster than most of the guns
sullen hill
But the plasma gun in other hand... it is speedy,strong and have a good mag size
charred fox
Idk if its faster than the smg but it looks like it cause he barely does anything lol
Plasma is pretty great
charred fox
Yee
sullen hill
Granades are quite trash
honest lynx
I mean regarding damage there isn't much
If something shoots slower and hits less it deals different damage
vagrant holly
quick question about D3: why the fuck does the BFG Edition exist?
and I don't mean as a remaster but as a remaster that changes the game's mechanics without you having the ability to revert it back to the original
it's insane to me that they thought that was a good idea
vagrant holly
I just dont see an sort of change between half life 1 and 2 to get it the praise...
The gravity gun is the thing that makes HL2 really
if you're not using that enough then I can see why you'd think of it as a generic shooter and the gunplay itself really doesn't hold up
not that Doom 3's gunplay holds up though, I mean most of the weapons are just not enjoyable to use and a peeshooter machinegun is your workhorse weapon
but just like how D3 has weapon mods HL2 has MMod:
https://www.moddb.com/mods/hl2-ep2-enhased-mod
anyway anybody who tells you that Doom 3 had a bigger impact than HL2 back in the day is lying, like there wasn't even a contest, HL2's reception and sales were just insane
it was the right game for the right time, Source physics may seem janky now but they gave a whole new dimension to gameplay and the game was still riding on the tail of HL1's success
Doom 3 had horror, HL2 had fucking Ravenholm
damn, what a masterpiece of a level with tension, pacing and grav gun centric gameplay, holy shit
scenic stratus
I distinctly remember taking the grav gun and launching sawblades and barrels at the head crab zombies
Good times
vagrant holly
oh man, Delta Labs is the part where I usually stop my Doom 3 playthroughs 😄
I feel that's the point where Doom 3 peaks at being "annoyingly boring"
you still won't die because the game's piss easy but that's where those stupid tenctacle soldiers appear with the near unavoidable attack
so you have imps jumping at you unavoidably AND you have these fucks running into your face unavoidably
it's just baffling that a Doom game exists that simply disrespects your movement and just hits you sometimes because they knew their difficulty was just nonexistent I guess
also: a Doomguy that runs out of breath, holy fuck 😄
the goddamn game even has strafe jumping (yes, you can strafe jump in this game) but it has a stamina meter, what the actual hell were they thinking?
and the armor system, goddamn the armor system
it's like it doesn't even matter 😄
I didn't love RAGE because that game has no idea what it wants to be either but RAGE at least had good shooting and a great arsenal of weapons
Doom 3 gameplay? not even once
charred fox
You can avoid the imps jumping by strafe jumping backwards (or moving backwards probably but I strafe jump)
charred fox
And the tentacle fucks can be crouched under but you can’t be close to them while you do it
Infact you can crouch under a lot of projectiles if you hit the right angle
wild pollen
It isn't that hard to go nyoom and avoid most attacks
charred fox
Yea
I know that strafe jumping was already mentioned, but it really is comical how fast the acceleration is on it. You don’t really have to waste much stamina meter if you know how to bhop everywhere
But anyways if there’s anything that’s going to be hitting you “randomly” it will be the hitscanners, because they suck. Pretty much every other monster gives you one way or another of dealing with them
You can even shoot projectiles out of the air, which is one of the things that makes plasma rifle extremely good on monsters like the revenant
severe nacelle
🗿
vagrant holly
You can avoid the imps jumping by strafe jumping backwards (or moving backwards ...
Oh, I'll try that, at least I'll have an excuse to get used to Doom 3's weird weighty strafe jumps
moving backwards doesn't work
strafing sometimes works sometimes doesn't, usually doesn't if there's no cover
actually strafing works the best against hitscanners in my experience
you just ADAD and they hit you a lot less
yay, finally a place where you can do a bit of this:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xVMzU4lpAPw
buoyant storm
Half life had a freeman and doom 3 did doom 3 have doom guy??
vagrant holly
acceleration doesn't seem to work without running though
charred fox
Yeah
You basically have to hold the run button for 2 or 3 jumps and you’ve most likely covered the whole area, or you have enough momentum to not hold the run button
And yes you can dodge the imps that jump at you but it has to be quick
vagrant holly
if you know they're coming then I guess you can be quick enough with that but on reaction? if you're lucky and happen to already hold the run button
charred fox
it’s more of a conditioning thing honestly
vagrant holly
the tentacle guys are worse though, those dude can hit you through walls sometimes 😄
charred fox
They let out a specific sound and it gives you enough time to register it as “I should pull back right away”
vagrant holly
I remember being able to more consistently dodge imps in the BFG Edition though
there movement's a bit faster so it's just more possible
charred fox
Yeah the tentacle guts are bs lol
Ah I didn’t know that
*guys
Also forgot that basically any door you come across you should basically expect something to pop out
Similarly a lot of monsters that spawn in front of you will also probably mean that some will spawn behind you
Doom 3’s main goal is to keep you on your toes and you eventually get a feel for spawn patterns
vagrant holly
yep, that's why I'm not that bothered by not being able to dodge stuff honestly
because without those attacks I'd be just really bored with constantly being at full hp 😄
charred fox
Yeah lol
vagrant holly
if the game gets you with a trap and messes you up a bit then that makes you focus a bit more
it's just that there are medkits everywhere
charred fox
I’m really getting my ass kicked on nightmare because of that whole “25 health” thing
Ikr
vagrant holly
oh, I tried playing that mode once but that's really not for me
that tick sound when your hp drops just made me crazy
I can't take 12 hours of that
charred fox
Yeah man it’s literally zero chill
vagrant holly
is there any way to disable that sound? without that destroying my hearing through my headphones I'd give it another chance
scenic stratus
Doom 3 is basically a horror game
half plank
Yes
stable lake
that's the point
half plank
By the end you feel like a badass though, wrecking everthing and all.
vagrant holly
Quite terrifying if you ask me
I think I'm spoiled in that regard honestly. If you've played stuff like the first couple of Silent Hill games, Resident Evil and the like then there's not much Doom 3 can offer in horror.
what I think is dearly missing from the game is survival horror on the mechanical level honestly
vagrant holly
classic Resident Evil looks like a joke for example but the scarcity of resources, the limited saving and the like makes that game tense
scenic stratus
Yes
vagrant holly
and that's something Doom 3 could have utilized
scenic stratus
Certainly
vagrant holly
or id could have made it balls out horror action like Undying for example
if I want an action horror FPS I go play Undying because Undying is just amazing
while Doom 3 has the aesthetics, it has the atmosphere, it's just lacking in gameplay
it's certainly better than something like Amnesia
but it could have been a true survival horror FPS classic like Resident Evil 7
or even Alien Isolation, holy shit what a game
scenic stratus
I think the creature design in doom 3 is really disturbing unlike other more comical designs in doom (2016) and doom 2
brazen pawn
why didn't id let doom 64 creators did doom 3 instead?
what i meant is Nightdive studios and Midway
half plank
Midway's long dead. And Doom 3 doesn't need to be ported to Kex engine. Was hoping they'd fix a few bugs and maybe base it off the original though? But alas, my hopes were met with BFG Edition.... again.
vagrant holly
yeah, even though I'm not a huge fan of the game it's a bummer that the only way to play it at 120 hz is through BFG Edition
we absolutely need a new port
even if you want to run the original game without stutter and at the right speed you have to do silly things because its tickrate is set at 62.5 fps 😄
for example what I'm doing is I'm running my monitor at 63 hz when playing D3 to preserve the original speed
though even at 63 hz I got a bit of stutter so I just unlocked the framerate and let the game run a half frame faster than it should = it's nothing you can feel
vagrant holly
really, Doom 3?
Doom 3 bossfights are like "this is a bossfight... but you're the boss!"
honest lynx
Best fight in the game
When the boss hype is longer than the fight .. https://imgur.com/gallery/1qgUCwR
robust rover
Chaingun time
honest lynx
Yeah it's actually insanely brighter
I recently went back to my pc version but I like bfg now.
honest lynx
That's what it is now. I never bothered for the nightmare run
versed estuary
Ye
I didn’t know it had a fov slider for the first run I did
🤦
So I played it at like 80fov
Now it’s 100
honest lynx
Hahahahahaha same man
I think it's actually 90 half way through my game
I need to do nightmare again soon. No soul cube though
robust rover
I didn't change anything in my option
slim willow
100 FOV makes the shotgun look odd in some bug
half plank
I always set the FOV to around 110 on the original version.
vagrant holly
honestly I don't have issues with the BFG visuals, I think the game looks good even if its brighter and hell, the new flashlight is cool
what I have issues with is how they doubled every ammo pickup and royally fucked up the second half of the game with that
Doom 3 was never hard but BFG makes it a cakewalk
you get a ton of shotgun shells but the ammo is limited for the more powerful weapons, that was the game
not in BFG Edition 😄
the title should have been Plasma Gun, Chaingun and BFG Edition
vagrant holly
Cybey had no chance either:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EZerxgLQ6II
in Doom you just circle strafed cybey and shot at him until he died: was more difficult to kill than D3 cybey
in Doom Eternal instead of him being a boss the devs degraded cybey into a regular heavy enemy: was more difficult to kill than D3 boss cybey 😄
half plank
Yeah, Doom 3 has abysmal bosses.
Sarge goes down in under 10 seconds.
Vagary too if you know what you're doing.
Guardian of Hell is reduced to paste with rocket spam.
honest lynx
Honestly I was so used to og doom 3 that I just instinctually conserve ammo when I play bfg. Therefore the experience wasnt that different for me other than the brightness
Going to do a machine gun only nightmare run in bfg though. That should be possible. Back up pistol and it will make the boss fights less dull
half plank
If you're so used to it, why not play OG? 
dull hollow
would most people recommend BFG or OG? if I want the "true" experience
half plank
For the "true" experience, go original.
BFG is rather useless on PC.
At least in my opinion.
dull hollow
doom 3 is the only one I haven't played. for some reason
honest lynx
If you're so used to it, why not play OG? <:glarethink:328283410340511745> <:gla...
I prefer bfg now I think you have trouble with your memory
half plank
Doom 3 has more players
vagrant holly
umm... no
vagrant holly
what's even more interesting: BFG has more players than OG D3
half plank
honest lynx
half plank
At least I can skip cutscenes BFG boy. 
loud fog
honest lynx
Yeah but why would you. Let's you see the bosses longer since you destory them so fast
loud fog
vagrant holly
ease of use and 120 hz support can go a long way I guess
honest lynx
Sarge is coming for you.... right ..
honest lynx
That's a fuckint stupid take considering I'm better than you at 3
honest lynx
By a metric mile
vagrant holly
Somehow BFG runs like ass on my machine ever since I got Win 10 so even though you have to write a neat little autoexec.cfg for D3 because of how it can't handle modern VRAM amounts the OG version works better than the remaster 😄
half plank
how did you take that seriously
vagrant holly
if I want to play BFG I have to download a source port that fixes my mouse 😄
honest lynx
Not worth it
half plank
That's a fuckint stupid take considering I'm better than you at 3
says who? 
vagrant holly
Best thing about D3 BFG Edition: No Rest For the Living episode for Doom 2
honest lynx
Really couldn't give less of a fuck what version anyone plays of the exact same game as long as they like doom 3
versed estuary
Honestly both doom 3 versions are essentially the same game
half plank
Great I've started a flamewar. 
versed estuary
Aside from what? 10 min of cut hallway?
And no flashlight
honest lynx
says who? <:doomguy_thonk:325578262929604609>
It's just a fact
vagrant holly
Honestly both doom 3 versions are essentially the same game
except BFG has:
- double the ammo (literally DOUBLE THE AMMO)
- faster walk and run speeds
- a totally different flashlight
- some rooms are missing or changed
- increased brightness
versed estuary
Sounds good to me
half plank
Which to the bümers, is a BAD.
versed estuary
Wait the walk and run is faster
half plank
yes
versed estuary
Good god classic doom 3 is even slower??
honest lynx
That's why its probably the best nightmare experience
half plank
Yep
honest lynx
More enjoyable on nightmare honestly
half plank
And it's absolutely glorious.
versed estuary
No wonder people think doom 3 is slow
vagrant holly
yep, classic Doom 3 is turtle Doom
half plank
OG 3 isn't slow though
vagrant holly
turtle Doom with the shitegun 😄
half plank
At least not at the start
versed estuary
They think it’s a horror game and then stay afraid by going even slower
Now it makes sense
half plank
It's not a massive change, I didn't even notice at first.
vagrant holly
but at least there's strafe jumping, that helps the game in movement a bit
half plank
Hell, I still don't notice.
honest lynx
Flash light mechanic is pretty important. That's the main thing I would say changes the game
half plank
Watch a Doom 3 2004 longplay, I bet you won't either.
The speed difference is so small.
versed estuary
Flash light mechanic is pretty important. That's the main thing I would say chan...
Yeah 100%
While I think using your muzzle flashes to see in the dark is a cool concept
It hurts my eyes
honest lynx
If the bfg edition had maybe 2 three times more enemies I could see what they were going for
half plank
RoE on Xbox has best flashlight, can't change my mind.
versed estuary
On the pistol right@.
half plank
Yep
versed estuary
Yeah that sounds fantastic
half plank
Mixes both defenselessness and power.
versed estuary
The mix of light with Gun
honest lynx
That actually makes sense
half plank
A perfect middle ground.
vagrant holly
If the bfg edition had maybe 2 three times more enemies I could see what they we...
Lost Mission is what they were going for honestly, that was made for BFG and it is a faster, more action packed Doom 3
versed estuary
I think normal flashlight is stupid because it takes away too hard
Meanwhile shoulder is a bit op because any gun
I would have liked flashlight on pistol
And shotgun
versed estuary
Lost Mission is what they were going for honestly, that was made for BFG and it ...
My only complaint with lost mission is that it’s only 1 hour long
honest lynx
I really love lost missions but I've found it's a hate it or love it thing with doom 3 fans
versed estuary
1 super super good hour
vagrant holly
yeah Lost Mission is good, best piece of content for D3
versed estuary
Yeah lost mission removes most of the horror atmosphere
Until you reach hell. Then it’s like DAMN
honest lynx
The river styx is glorious
half plank
I prefer 64's hell..
vagrant holly
there's a Lost Mission mod for OG Doom 3 though, that could be interesting with original speeds, flashlight and ammo values
half plank
I've played it, 10/10
versed estuary
64 has good hell, but it’s limited by the older sprites and walls type game
half plank
they even added bug fixes, and hell variants of demons are used in hell
versed estuary
64 was most detailed classic doom, but you can only get so much detail from a 1990 game
Hell wise
vagrant holly
they even added bug fixes, and hell variants of demons are used in hell
okay so the mod is better than the official game 😄
versed estuary
Not adding hell variants to lost mission was big mistake
half plank
Cutscenes are a bit different in the mod though, ending one especially.
fresh ibex
Hot take: the maledict is one of the best boss fights in the series
versed estuary
Nah that’s a good take
Every other boss basically sucks
Besides lost mission guardians
charred fox
Maledict is badass
vagrant holly
this is a pretty great analysis:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vn0IMQIlUMQ
though I find it a bit interesting that it is a defense of the game yet it acknlowledges everything I hate about the game 😄
scenic stratus
hey uh
i need some help
i recently bought vanilla doom 3 off of steam and tried modding it with sikkmod and the wulfen texture pack
but the hd textures dont seem to work
could someone help me here?
slim willow
scenic stratus
oh sorry
slim willow
Except people there might not know anything about Doom 3 so ehh
scenic stratus
oh
scenic stratus
i still got no luck
honest lynx
Yeah heres where to go if you need to know anything. Just the same handful of fans here
scenic stratus
does anyone know a solution for my issue though?
vagrant holly
@scenic stratus vanilla Doom 3 won't run out of box on high settings on new GPUs
what you need is an autoexec.cfg
for "image_lodbias" I suggest 0 though, -2 has no benefit on image quality, it only increases aliasing because of the negative lod
scenic stratus
<@456226577798135808> vanilla Doom 3 won't run out of box on high settings on ne...
what i mean is an hd texture pack
like doom 3 redux
vagrant holly
@scenic stratus custom textures may not even load up if the game can't decide how much VRAM you have
scenic stratus
how can i make sure that they load then?
vagrant holly
the problem is that Doom 3 can't do anything with current amounts of VRAM, it will falsely think that you don't have enough and will just default to low texture quality
well, look at how they supposed to look like and see if they load up 😄
scenic stratus
i have 4gb of vram so uh, yeah
vagrant holly
at any rate quickly making an autoexec.cfg doesn't hurt
yep, then you have your issue
scenic stratus
and how can i limit it to think i have 1gb or so then?
vagrant holly
by doing what I just linked to
that will just force highest settings so you don't have to worry about what the game thinks
and if the mod still doesn't load the high res content then you just go to the mod's folder and copy and paste the same autoexec.cfg, sometimes that helps
scenic stratus
and how can i load smth like sikkmod and doom 3 redux at the same time?
vagrant holly
now that I don't know
if there is no conflict then there should be a way though
I'm pretty sure Redux and Sikkmod would conflict though but I've never used either one so can't confirm
slim willow
Did Romero ever play Doom 3?
stable lake
possibly
You could always ask him on Twitter or something
scenic stratus
he will likely reply as well
honest lynx
Did Romero ever play Doom 3?
Yeah he did. Told me he liked it
slim willow
he will likely reply as well
Didn't reply when i asked him
scenic stratus
rip
vagrant holly
Did Romero ever play Doom 3?
He did play it but he never finished it.
Apparently he found it boring.
vagrant holly
yeah I know, the two things have no relation to each other
still, it's a cool visual representation of Romero not liking D3 😄
charred fox
honest lynx
still, it's a cool visual representation of Romero not liking D3 😄
Yeah I spoke to Romero
He said it was a great horror survival game
Those are his exact words
The picture was staged for fun
vagrant holly
his opinion might have changed, who knows
I remember an old interview with him where he was asked about it and he said that he played it but stopped after around 10 hours because he found it boring
versed estuary
10 hours? He should have beaten it 3+ hours before that
honest lynx
I asked him this maybe 3 4 months ago
vagrant holly
it's a long game for a first playthrough
versed estuary
Doom 3 is only a 8 hour campaign going on your first playthrough
honest lynx
Theres another interview where he said doom 3 was what we wanted classic to be link
That's just how Romero is
vagrant holly
people read the logs too you know
versed estuary
4-6 once you’ve replayed it
honest lynx
My record is 3 50 I think
vagrant holly
my recent playthrough too me 12 hours according to Steam
that's by getting all the secret stuff and reading everything
versed estuary
But why
honest lynx
Makes sense if you're exploring and reading logs
vagrant holly
yep
honest lynx
I do that when not speed running
versed estuary
That’s like 5 hours of reading
vagrant holly
That’s like 5 hours of reading
and listening 😄
honest lynx
Its longer if you fuck up the barrel section over and over
half plank
Doom 3 is a game that's fun to stop and just look around.
versed estuary
When you listen to a 4 minute audio log and when he reads the numbers an imp screams in your ear so you have to listen again
;-;
half plank
Stop and smell the corpses everyone, Doom 3 is a cool looking game. 
vagrant holly
Doom 3 is a game that's fun to stop and just look around.
Honestly yep and the thing is that the level design is good enough that you want to explore the maps, there are a lot of hidden stuff
honest lynx
I remember just jumping down 3 feet and insta dying trying to explore as a kid hahahah
half plank
When you jump 3 feet and take around 500 damage and your health goes negative.
honest lynx
Ahhhhhhhhhgg
robust rover
Still need to know how they code the Hp
vagrant holly
and the armor
125 armor + 100 Hp? that will be 100 armor and 0 HP when you're dead 😄
charred fox
Yeep
I’ve heard the theory is that the demons all aim for your head which is helmetless
vagrant holly
I'm not saying that Doom 1-2's way of the ratio of damage absorbtion being different based on the color of the armor you were wearing was a good thing but how Doom 3 does it is utter nonsense.
honest lynx
The doom classic armor is fantastic. I believe doom 3 only reduces 30 points of damage
little raven
Every time you get hit the armor takes 1 damage instead of your health
honest lynx
Armor on nightmare might as well be a decoration
little raven
Armor on any mode is decaration
vagrant holly
The doom classic armor is fantastic. I believe doom 3 only reduces 30 points of ...
In Doom 1-2 I like the idea, it's just that I don't like if it becomes maths. 😄 If you have the blue and it's below 100 then you still don't want to pick up the green for a while so you're dodging those pickups until you have around 50 of the blue left. 😄
little raven
Unless the enemy does 2 damage then your armor just took half of the blast
half plank
Just remember which you have.
Blue on any percent is 50% (1/2) less damage
Green on any percent is 33.33% (1/3) less damage
little raven
Then in the modern games its just a second health bar
half plank
Wish the armor number color changed depending on which you have though, would save time.
honest lynx
Just remember which you have.
Blue on any percent is 50% (1/2) less damage
Gre...
Yeah it kinda just becomes second nature after playing for a long time
You do the math in the back of your head
vagrant holly
Dodging green armor with the blue and picking up +1 armor helmets instead: Doom 1-2 armor management 😄
half plank
Kinda wish it was simpler though. Such as 1 percentage for damage reduction and it was just 2 different sizes of armor.
vagrant holly
anyway finished the Lost Mission mod for vanilla Doom 3 and it was pretty great, I think it's better than the BFG Edition version
honest lynx
I need to get this in poster form
half plank
Doom 3's original box art kicks ass.
The BFG Edition artwork kinda looks more like fanart to me. Featuring guns and demons not present in game.
vagrant holly
the reduced ammo is cool but you're not really feeling it which only tells me how big of a mess BFG's increased ammo values are + the more limited flashlight really matters I think.
honest lynx
You guys want to see the inside fold art ?
vagrant holly
it saddens me that I only have a boxed copy of the BFG Edition
half plank
I have a physical copy of the Xbox version at least.
versed estuary
You guys want to see the inside fold art ?
Yes 👀
honest lynx
Og doom set https://imgur.com/a/FIqmEgx
half plank
Kinda wish Doom 3 was remembered more fondly. 2004 was a poor year to release it.
vagrant holly
I don't think it would have fared better with a different release date honestly
maybe a year earlier, who knows
half plank
That's what I meant. It was put against things like Half Life 2 (which has a massive cult following) and Halo 2.
honest lynx
Carmack has even admitted they fucked up the releases date because
The competition was evolving and they were still basing their game on competing with far earlier releases
vagrant holly
HL2 was delayed because of the data leak too though, that game was supposed to come out a year earlier too
honest lynx
I believe they were aiming for a 1998 release
honest lynx
When was the tech demo ?
half plank
2002
like the e3 demo was 2002 at least
i think they showed off their engine a bit earlier though
honest lynx
Damn all I know his carmack had a vision for doom 3 to be out way before 2004
vagrant holly
E3 2003's HL2 debut is what broke the hype honestly, I remember how everyone just shifted attention towards HL2 because those facial animations, graphics and physics were just that impressive.
half plank
Yep, as a Doom 3 cultist myself, I must day HL2's engine has aged better.
versed estuary
Imho
Hl2 didn’t age nearly as well
half plank
Games like Portal look excellent. Like released as a 2015 indie game excellent.
honest lynx
Yeah but I don't want to say anything because I didnt like half life in general
half plank
HL2 itself might not have aged perfectly, but the engine has aged quite well.
vagrant holly
that's interesting honestly because Doom 3's presentation holds up better than HL2 I think, it's just that Doom 3 is also a lot more static and they were really not that smart in hiding the rough edges. They shove those terrible NPC models in your face.
half plank
Yeah, the human models... shudders
honest lynx
Are you telling me betrugers triangle scar face isnt normal ?
vagrant holly
for example there's Bioshock, it has terrible NPC models too but they are always behind glass or some barrier that hides those shortcomings. Doom 3 was like "hey, these faces look like shit, deal with it" 😄
half plank
Both have aged like 2004 games, don't get me wrong. But I feel idtech 4's games look inferior to Source 2's. 
At least most.
honest lynx
Gordan freeman looks like a boring potato though doom 3 had the most generic marine character and it was still better
honest lynx
Oh god ...
vagrant holly
that's the point, he is an avatar for the "avarage gamer"
honest lynx
An average gamestop employee maybe
half plank
I prefer Doom 3 to Half Life 2 by a lot for whatever reason, I'm just stating Valve used the engine a lot, they did a lot with it, and it shows in a lot of the games.
vagrant holly
I prefer HL2 because of the physics
honest lynx
I didn't know until last year that when the marine sees the cyberdemon he actually says oh fuck to himself.
half plank
Idtech 4 could have been pushed to the edge, but it was only used for like 2 big releases.
honest lynx
Yeah dont make me show you goofy demon death clips
Hey but halo 2 physics.... were they still using havok?
vagrant holly
Idtech 4 could have been pushed to the edge, but it was only used for like 2 big...
one of those was Prey 1 though, that game is by far the best that was made for Tech 4
half plank
Prey was on idtech 4? Huh, learned something new
honest lynx
Havok is the most goofy as shit ever made but fun
half plank
Guess they did push it to the limits too.
vagrant holly
the weird thing though? Titanfall 1-2 and Apex Legends are running on Source
now that's aging like fine wine even though they must have rebuilt a lot of it
the good ole' HL2 Source engine's limit is somewhere around Black Mesa I guess
half plank
Yeah, like I said, source has been pushed to the edge of space and time. And it's still used on games with active playerbases. As much as I love 3, source just looks better.
vagrant holly
what they are doing with lighting in Black Mesa now is putting Doom 3 to shame honestly, it's just a great spritiual successor to that concept of "controlled darkness"
elfin geyser
doom 3 was my first pc game
thorn verge
Aight
I never played this game. And I was really debating on whether to play it given the massive mixed opinions and the fact that it looks super slow.
But it was on sale for $3, so, I scooped it up and will give it a shot
charred fox
It’s pretty good!
Intro is slow but the game picks up once you get the shotgun
Just remember the golden rule: if there’s a demon in front of you, there’s probably one behind you
thorn verge
Noted heh - when I play it I’ll try to remember that lol
charred fox
U got it bro
subtle owl
DOOM 3
scenic stratus
Does the gog release of doom 3 bfg have the original doom 3 as an additional executable?
half plank
half plank
seta g_armorProtectionMP "0.6"
seta g_armorProtection "0.3"
honest lynx
Bio force gun 
plain remnant
damn i sure do love doom 3
only thing i hated were the imps
fuckin annoying ass bastards
but the shitty shotgun kinda helped
covert anchor
Nah the most annoying enemy are the civilians
covert anchor
....
versed estuary
At the end they declare there are no other survivors besides you
covert anchor
Oh right
versed estuary
Meaning they all met their cruel death at the hands of the demons
So if you kill them, it’s mercy
covert anchor
Well i guess im a good person after all
versed estuary
Plus you have to to get the PDA achievement
thorn verge
Wait
Killing civilians = PDAs?
Or is this a joke lol
I just started this game - only gonna play a little tonight
covert anchor
Nah, you get their PDA's
thorn verge
I see fall damage = break your shins
versed estuary
Falls 1 foot is fine
Falls 2 feet breaks shin
Falls 3 feet. Breaks every bone in your body
covert anchor
Falls 4 feet, you turn into a fine red mist
thorn verge
Is punching in this game ridiculous - I.e., garbo. I saw there’s an achievement to kill people with punches lol
versed estuary
Falls 5 feet
Dies in real life
honest lynx
Killing the civs is a mercy
thorn verge
Oh god - what is this shotgun
versed estuary
The strongest shotgun in doom
Capable of instakilling most enemies
And 2-3 shottinf bigger enemies
little raven
I wish I learned to record my gameplay earlier
I killed 3 cacos with one shotgun clip once
Wish that was on video
thorn verge
Is ammo prominent enough in this game
Cus ima be pretty bad at this doom lol
YOOOOOO that was a sick gib w the shotgun
And that was only an imp
half plank
yeah, especially if playing on console or BFG Edition
thorn verge
😠 can I not get this SMG in dis window where I got the pistol
I’m playing on console ye- idk what BFG edition is. I just got “doom 3”
POG i opened it w the computer
thorn verge
yeah, especially if playing on console or BFG Edition
Also was this pertaining to my ammo question or the gib comment
half plank
Console is essentially bfg edition
thorn verge
What’s the difference
half plank
bfg has a dead multiplayer and awful ports of doom 1 and 2
elfin geyser
i wouldn't say awful, but yeah
thorn verge
Oh .... is that what “RoE” and “lost mission” are
half plank
like deader than doom 2016 dead
Resurrection of Evil and Lost Mission are expansions.
elfin geyser
they aren't too good in my opinion
thorn verge
Then I don’t think I got BFG EDITION
I think BFG edition is in the other doom 3 pack I saw
But that’s ok cus I played doom 1 and 2 already on eternal 🙂
half plank
The 2004 version is better imho. And you can buy RoE for it, and mod Lost Mission in.
elfin geyser
^
honest lynx
In my opinion bfg is better but hey if you have doom 3 in any version play it
half plank
But, 2004 version has some issues for some modern computers, and is harder to set up on new devices. But you can mod the thing.
thorn verge
They play differently?
elfin geyser
bfg edition is un-modable to my knowledge
thorn verge
And yeah BFG edition is a backwards compat version on console but I got the standard version
half plank
and flashlights been changed to a shoulder light
honest lynx
Well if you want a more fast paced extreme version of 3 bfg is the way to go if you want a slow horror type feel og
thorn verge
I play on console so mods are irrelevant to me HEH
elfin geyser
i see
half plank
2004 version is about 15% slower give or take.
thorn verge
Am
honest lynx
On the original x box ?
thorn verge
No
I’m on Xbox one
But I got “doom 3”
I think it’s just standard doom.
There’s a 360 backwards compatible doom bfg
honest lynx
No it should b bfg
honest lynx
You should try to get us a pic me and sgt can tell you in 2 seconds
half plank
It isn't called bfg edition, but it's the version its a release of.
thorn verge
I can’t attach photos :S
half plank
copy their url
elfin geyser
on god
the best part of roe is the super shotgun
thats pretty much the only reason i played it
honest lynx
That's bfg
elfin geyser
honest lynx
https://www.microsoft.com/en-us/p/doom-3/9nsl68d814gc
99 percent sure its bfg
thorn verge
Ok
It seems cool 🙂 not my fav doom by any means but actually liking it, despite all the mixed things I heard. Granted I haven’t played much yet
Why’re you here.
honest lynx
Once you unlock nightmare mode that's where bfg shines. Only way I play now
elfin geyser
https://www.microsoft.com/en-us/p/doom-3/9nsl68d814gc
def bfg it says 25 year anniversary so it should have all the expansions if not
thorn verge
Once you unlock nightmare mode that's where bfg shines. Only way I play now
Gets intense ye?
elfin geyser
nightmare mode is a bit too much for me
thorn verge
Ye it has the expansions I think
elfin geyser
I dislike the way your health drops constantly
honest lynx
nightmare mode is a bit too much for me
After a bunch of playthroughs its fantastic
elfin geyser
I can see that
versed estuary
Stay on topic
elfin geyser
Doom 3 being one of my first pc games I would think I would have mastered it but I still struggle on nightmare
smh
thorn verge
It seems hard
elfin geyser
Yeah though you do get the soul cube from the start
which is good for the health thingy
half plank
lesson one: dont fuck with bob
versed estuary
Wanna start talking about doom 3 or no?
versed estuary
U going to stop shitposting or?
honest lynx
Doom 3 being one of my first pc games I would think I would have mastered it but...
Well nightmare on original isnt fun at all but the bfg ammo increase and brightness moving faster because of it makes it very enjoyable
elfin geyser
Well nightmare on original isnt fun at all but the bfg ammo increase and brightn...
i see i see
half plank
Well nightmare on original isnt fun at all but the bfg ammo increase and brightn...
wrong, i had a blast :)
elfin geyser
i think doom 3 doesn't deserve all the hate it gets tbh, like I get that it's a slower game but it's really fun
half plank
original already has too much ammo, the doubling is pointless as shit
honest lynx
Yeah but nightmare on bfg is times 100 better
elfin geyser
not sure
elfin geyser
Yeah but nightmare on bfg is times 100 better
agreed
i got much farther on bfg than orginal
thorn verge
On nightmare you get the cube you mean?
honest lynx
Probably have to auto load and save constantly on og and not push and just shit your pants not and fun
elfin geyser
yup
half plank
Been considering doing nightmare no saves on the 2004 version, shadows are appearing as squares still though, gotta fix that visual bug.
honest lynx
I tried going back to veteran. Its basically unplayable now
elfin geyser
I am not on the same wavelengths
I might need to re-install doom 3 just to play nightmare
dapper nymph
So, is Doom 3 canon in any way? Like does the game take place while the Doomguy is locked in Hell or?
dapper nymph
Damn, that would've been interesting if it was canon.
slim willow
A spin-off game returning to that universe would be interesting but very unlikely to happen
half plank
I'd love a sequel to Doom 3, but it will never happen, I'm sure of it
slim willow
Atleast some sort of mention of Doom 3 in Eternal would be enough for me
tall violet
A key item that is important in Doom 3 appears in the Slayer's Fortress.
tall violet
Despite my vast encyclopedic knowledge of the multiverse, I forgot what it was called...
versed estuary
Soul cube
slim willow
Easter egg
I mean, if no demon from Doom 3 is returning then i guess that's it
versed estuary
Spectre Trites
covert anchor
Hell knight is from doom 3
Damn we out here forgetting doom 2
half plank
The modern design for the hell knight takes a lot from 3, think that's what Bob means.
versed estuary
^
covert anchor
Oh i see
scenic stratus
I just realize how fun and amazing this game really is after playing it for the first time in over 7 or 8 years
I feel like I lost all of my muscle memory of secrets and stuff
scenic stratus
I'm liking DOOM 3 so far, I'm in Alpha Admin currently and ||I just got the chain gun|| (not sure if it counts as spoilers, but I'm marking it as such just in case)
It's my first DOOM game and it's pretty scary (at least for me)
honest lynx
I hope you enjoy it. It really is an amazing game.
half plank
Doom 3 is quite different from the rest of the series, pretty much every Doom is different.
versed estuary
Ye
half plank
3 is especially unique though.
scenic stratus
Yeah, so far it's pretty good, I'm a little bit of a wimp and I always feel really REALLY tense and anxious and I can only play a little bit of it at a time because of it
fair bramble
So apparently Doom 3 runs on a Raspberry Pi 4 now.
scenic stratus
Woah!!
scenic stratus
what FOV do you guys use for DOOM 3?
pure lily
90
covert anchor
Interesting, i though it was set to 60
scenic stratus
Yeah, for me the default is 80, how does the gameplay feel different when you change the FOV?
scenic stratus
yeah, but how does seeing more help me
(shoot, that feels like a stupid question)
versed estuary
See zombie coming from your blind spot etc
half plank
That would give me motion sickness if possible.
scenic stratus
lol
scenic stratus
I might of consider wanting to do a walktrough video but it's like at this point what is the point.... There is over 20 people out there who make Doom 3 walktrough with huge crowd and content... It's not even needed but what is needed is this version having campaign co-op!
campaign co-op was the only thing I got this back in xbox version
honest lynx
Just do a nightmare walkrough. I'm playing to record my no saves run
hushed abyss
Easter egg
Did Hugo himself confirm this, or is it an assumption?
I'd be sad if it is confirmed to be the case. The Soul Cube is an awesome concept. I loved it in Doom 3 and it would work extremely well in the current Doom story.
honest lynx
Did Hugo himself confirm this, or is it an assumption?
I'd be sad if it is confi...
It's just a teaser Easter egg. Doom 3 is unfortunately not canon yet. Could be in the future with alternate dimensions but doubt it. It is its own thing
Had it would work well as a very early prequel for sure if they retcon it right
hushed abyss
Ah fair enough. A bit disappointing.
But seeing a few easter egg references to Doom 3 (such as Betruger castle, soul cube, hell knights), im hoping that it does become canon either as a multiverse concept, or establish that the events of Doom 3 occur on a seperate UAC facility on the other side of Mars. Maybe an archaeology division that is investigating ancient artifacts.
versed estuary
The cube is the strongest weapon in doom 3
And doom 3 lore
Being reduced to a paper weight in 2016/ eternal is purely Easter egg
Trust me.
Doom 3 is my second favorite doom
I would LOVE for it to be canon
hushed abyss
Yeah, that is a valid point.
Could just say that the Soul Cube has been inactive for eons and no one knows how to "activate" it, except for maybe the Wretch lol. They could establish that the Soul cube requires a constant source of Hell's essence (which the demons have an abundance of).
Nevertheless, I agree, i really love Doom 3 and it is also my second favorite Doom.
slim willow
Slayer with Soul Cube would be OP
I wonder how Doom 3 would play out with the Slayer
honest lynx
The game ending in 5 minutes
slim willow
The slayer wouldn't be able to use his guns on the cyberdemon so he would just blood punch the shit out of it
honest lynx
And then jump down the hell portal instead of closing it to destroy it on the other side 
slim willow
Imagine the slayer with the fully upgraded artifact
elder pond
is it possible to set the FOV so that you can see behind you too?
i dont play doom 3. seriously, i dont even own it. but are you seriously telling me doom 3 aint got a chasecam option
slim willow
No doom 3 doesnt have 3rd person
scenic stratus
ayo should I play this? love 2016 and eternal but this one looks different
slim willow
ayo should I play this? love 2016 and eternal but this one looks different
Definitely
If you want to get sweating just play on veteran or nightmare
half plank
ayo should I play this? love 2016 and eternal but this one looks different
It is quite different, still a good game though.
scenic stratus
I'm willing to put up with less interesting gameplay if the setpieces and story are good
hell I just finished spec ops: the line
half plank
If you like spooky tech bases, you'll like Doom 3's atmosphere.
scenic stratus
Played the shit out of prey 2017, so hell yea
half plank
Yeah, Doom 3 is good, just different from the rest.
scenic stratus
Alright, I'll check it out, will probs buy it on winter sale
cosmic rune
yh actually doom 3 is basically more of a horror type
prisma estuary
Yes correct
honest lynx
Its supposed to be but after about 60 playthroughs or so it's less scary and you cut through the game confidently
half plank
You know you've played this game too much when you know about 90% of the enemy encounters.
slim willow
If you ever feel useless, remember that the rocket launcher has a scope
brazen pawn
am i the only one who thinks Doom 3 is a prequel to Doom 1993
cuz Doom 1993 is set during the invasion
Doom 3 is before
stable lake
DOOM III was supposed to be a retelling of DOOM (1993)
And it has stuff which makes it NOT canon
versed estuary
Also if you want to get technical
Doom 4 which was after doom 3 was supposed to be hell on earth
Which doesn’t make sense since hell on earth for doom 2 is after 1
Doom 3 also takes place in the year 2145
Same year as project Lazarus for doom 2016
Which means the universe can’t be the same since 2146 would have been hell on earth for doom 4
But it isn’t until 2160~ that hell on earth occurs in eternal
slim willow
How much of a pain in the ass is Nightmare in this game?
versed estuary
Not a pain at all
It encourages froward pushing play
And the cube instakills the strongest enemy in the room and gives you health
dusk lichen
guys, I'm having this really weird glitch with doom 3 where the character will keep moving even when I don't have "W" pressed, it also won't let me use any other button except escape. Does anyone know how to fix this?
the game is pretty much unplayable
half plank
Not a pain at all
elfin geyser
Doom 3 bfg edition is the best version of the game change my mind 😳
half plank
Can't BONK things.
versed estuary
Doom 3 bfg edition is the best version of the game change my mind 😳
It’s on switch
Boom
elfin geyser
hm
half plank
Sgt. Kelly has hair in BFG, 0/10
elfin geyser
hm
elfin geyser
Sgt. Kelly has hair in BFG, 0/10
i would say that is probably the worst part of the game
half plank
In all honesty, BFG Edition is great on consoles, or on PC if you want to play controller.
celest laurel
I just wanna say that the Doom 3 plasma gun is the best one in the series 
half plank
2004 version with Dhewm 3 sourceport is superior on PC, at least for me.
elfin geyser
I just wanna say that the Doom 3 plasma gun is the best one in the series <:cali...
agreed
half plank
Facts
celest laurel
That high pitched whine when you reload is just
honest lynx
In all honesty, BFG Edition is great on consoles, or on PC **if** you want to pl...
Definitely better nightmare mode by a 1000 miles(bfg)
half plank
Yeah, the extra speed probably makes it better. I had a lot of fun in the 2004 version though.
honest lynx
I think the extra ammo helps alot for sure and the lighting really allows you to just push ahead. It really is a different experience and going back to og
scenic stratus
wait, I have Doom 3 BFG, does that mean I should play it with a controller?
versed estuary
Whatever control scheme you think works best
scenic stratus
In all honesty, BFG Edition is great on consoles, or on PC **if** you want to pl...
how would you recommend setting it up in case I want to try it out with a controller
Do I need a driver of some sort?
half plank
Just plug it in, lol.
BFG Edition has support for controllers.
In my humble opinion, the 2004 original is better, BFG Edition isn't awful by any means.
If you have BFG Edition, I wouldn't buy it again. Unless you're like me, and bought Doom 3 7 times. 
tacit talon
i saw a few clips of DOOM 3 and it looks like a horror game lmao
celest laurel
It pretty much is I would say. I remember a criticism of Doom 3 when it first came out that it was a “monster closet, jumpscare shooter”
still hazel
towards the end it feels a lot more like classic DOOM but even then I still love the horror based part of DOOM 3
celest laurel
towards the end it feels a lot more like classic DOOM but even then I still love...
I absolutely agree with you
still hazel
but imagine if the shotgun had fixed spread
still hazel
yeah, sounds nice but it isn't very good
half plank
it's good if you get really close to things
jaunty turret
took your sweet time marine
scenic stratus
death will not be your end
jaunty turret
Making progress marine?
Betrüger was actually kind of a fun villain. I hope he comes back in some way in the future
scenic stratus
Look around you, marine. Everyone is dead, and soon...
scenic stratus
Betrüger was actually kind of a fun villain. I hope he comes back in some way in...
would be cool yep
vagrant holly
Making progress marine?
I seriously don't understand why he keeps repeating that though
that's partially why I always thought that he was lame
for everything that Doom 3 does well in the writing department (great world building) Betruger is just this village idiot stereotypical crazy scientist
with seemingly no motivation apart from being evil
and then on top of that he's repeating his catchphrases 😄
jaunty turret
But he's spooky
half plank
On paper, he kinda sucks, but I like him. He's cheesy and overly "evil". Which should be bad, but I think his campiness is funny.
visual pulsar
Hell Knights are the worst in Doom 3
slim willow
I had to pistol a hell knight once
slim willow
Can i send Doom 3 videos in the showroom?
stable lake
yeah
half plank
Hell Knights are the worst in Doom 3
honest lynx
Brad
charred fox
Brad
still hazel
Brad
scenic stratus
Shoot, as someone who can't horror, this game is very mentally taxing, and not in like a "these puzzles are hard" way, but my already existing anxiety is heightened by this game
But I don't want to stop the game because I don't like not finishing things
scenic stratus
I think it's absolutely hilarious that the UAC says that the two vital things humans have been fighting over for are "fuel and water" not "air and water" or "food and water"
half plank
If 3 is too scary, you'll be happy to know that the rest are mostly action games.
charred fox
The thing I really like about 3’s scaryness is that it conditions you to be prepared with how quickly monsters can pop up
Like how you shouldn’t mindlessly walk into a small pocket of a wall without possibly expecting it to open up with something inside
scenic stratus
This is true
scenic stratus
ERROR 404 lol @vagrant holly
honest lynx
This is true
You'll be fine after a few playthroughs
scenic stratus
Do you mean like play through the whole game a few times or play through a few levels
because I'm already on Alpha Labs Sector 2
carmine sonnet
You still got quite a ways to go
honest lynx
I mean this games not really that scary when you've played it so much your preshooting corners
scenic stratus
You still got quite a ways to go
Well yeah, but I'm just saying, that by now I thought I wouldn't be as scared
vagrant holly
the game is kind of designed to constantly make you uncomfortable
that never really goes away since that's the main thing of the experience so to speak
for example the shotgun is awful because the game wants you to constantly be in the face of everything which is more tense
half plank
I'd be just as happy with a weaker shotgun with less spread.
I like the insta-kill nature of the thing, but I feel that sorta erases tension in some parts when you can just give enemies the prostate exam of death.
honest lynx
Never had an issue with the shotgun I guess find the machine gun to be my go to
half plank
Machine gun is a go to for most because of how reliable it is.
The shotgun is powerful, but sometimes it takes 1 shot to kill and imp, and other times 3.
honest lynx
There is also more fun with engagements with the machine gun. Strafing dodging moving. With the shotgun its I need to get real close now here I come oh boy
half plank
A shotgun that always takes 2-3 shots to kill an imp, but is more accurate would go a long way.
scenic stratus
I guess all of the killing zombies with crowbars in Black Mesa and Half Life in general prepared me for using the shotgun effectively on enemies in Doom 3 lol
honest lynx
That's actually a good way to look at it
Treat it like a melee weapon and you'll be fine
scenic stratus
run forwards, shoot, run backwards, repeat
hushed abyss
I guess all of the killing zombies with crowbars in Black Mesa and Half Life in ...
that's actually a fantastic comparison. i never thought of it that way but it works perfectly.
scenic stratus
thanks!
wooden olive
doom 3 an old game
charred fox
It is?
half plank
Doom 3 is older than 
vagrant holly
man, somebody just associated Doom 3 with the Xbox 360, what a strange world we live in now 😄
scenic stratus
Most people played it through BFG Edition
scenic stratus
My sister probably can't handle Doom 3 (as in she probably would handle it even worse than me) because she just said that my sudden burp was "so scary"
hushed abyss
Does the BFG edition have the built-in level editor?
vagrant holly
Most people played it through BFG Edition
the horror
BFG Edition is like Doom 3 but worse and Doom 3 wasn't all that great to begin with
BFG is "remember that horror game where the only interesting thing happening was the flashlight mechanic and you fighting for your visibility? yeah, fuck that"
versed estuary
K
vagrant holly
I feel the pain if you're a console player because BFG Edition is the only way to experience Doom 3 there nowadays
versed estuary
No pain, only pleasure
vagrant holly
have you played the original PC version?
if not then I don't think you can compare
versed estuary
I have
vagrant holly
and why do you prefer BFG?
slim willow
I doubt they are making the original Xbox version backwards compatible
vagrant holly
maybe that's a thing
slim willow
OG Xbox version isn't bc
vagrant holly
that's a shame, I'm kinda hoping that one day id Software will right the wrongs of BFG with a new port
versed estuary
Because it’s on switch
Shoulder flashlight allows for faster gameplay
And more ammo means in ROE and lost mission I can spam ssg
vagrant holly
you can absolutely spam SSG in vanilla ROE
Doom 3 always showers you in shells, that's something you can always count on 😄
anyway not only the shoulder flashlight speeds up the game, your movement is faster too
cause fuck tension, let's just run around shooting stuff in a horror game
though I think the experience is legit to long for sort of, I mean it's basically how Resident Evil 3 handled its easy difficulty
they gave you a machine gun, a ton of ammo, go play if you don't want the survivor horror
as an option it's great, as the only way to play the game it's horrendous and terrible