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#doom-3
versed estuary
First game it just had the orb above its head
grand pike
true
grand pike
and seekers are there seekers
versed estuary
Nope
grand pike
oh that is harder
little raven
Also in base doom 3 why does the marine trust a flying block that is talking to him
versed estuary
He’s had a long day
little raven
Is there a mod that makes the theme play during fights
little raven
I’d be up for it
honest lynx
Trite rising
versed estuary
Hour long trite horde
scenic stratus
marble dune
unquestionably worth
scenic stratus
I actually never knew you could pick up Cherubs with Grabber...
Been playing Doom 3 for 10 years btw 
versed estuary
It makes them a million times easier to kill
scenic stratus
Can you grab Ticks and Trites?
versed estuary
Hmm haven’t tested that. Lemme find a trite
ebon cedar
is the grabber just dooms version of the gravity gun?
coral solstice
basically
ebon cedar
no wonder why playing doom 3 makes me want to play half life instead lol
honest lynx
@scenic stratus that was just beautiful bro.... fine work as always 
scenic stratus
the biggest difference between the old ones and this one is that this ones captured on my nightmare file
marble dune
grabbing a tick/trite with the grabber and throwing them instantly kills them
timely response
grand pike
I hate trites and ticks especially trites
their first encounter on nightmare is a disaster
scenic stratus
2 words: machine gun
sterile pasture
Equip fists.
scenic stratus
equip berserk
scenic stratus
with the grabber in roe or lm you can kill them instantly.
marble dune
Those 2 enemies combined with my arachnophobia are a large part of why I don't play the DooM 3 series.
scenic stratus
@marble dune I feel you. I get the really uneasy feeling every time i have to fight these things.
Thank all gods they die from 2 pistol bullets or like 3 MG bullets.
molten iris
I recently Installed RBDOOM3-bfg
grand pike
2 words: machine gun
@scenic stratus I did that but it failed so the chain gun was my next choice and it worked better
scenic stratus
im better with machine gun, just use around 8 or so bullets per trite and hide in a corner
little raven
Cowards shoot them
Tough people swallow the trites as they jump at you
Then crush them and spit them out at other demons
honest lynx
Machine gun is the ultimate tool... plus it feels amazing shooting it
ebon cedar
why do people come to the doom 3 channel just to shit on it
scenic stratus
fuck doom 3
ebon cedar
sounds counter-productive
ebon cedar
scary
more like cheap jumpscares and cliches
scenic stratus
TRUEEEEEEE
ebon cedar
and evil he-man laugh sometimes
honest lynx
@versed estuary lol hahaha we got another one
Recruit gangsters. You guys are hilarious
scenic stratus
a little bird told me there were zoomers here.
show yourselves before i banish your souls to hell
honest lynx
Plays doom 3 on easy ass difficulty for 2 hours because of the newb life... "DoOm 3 IsNT RIP N TEar"
scenic stratus
play on veteran, then on nightmare, it isnt "fast" like doom 2016 and eternal, but it sure as hell aint slow
once you get to alpha labs, shit gets serious
honest lynx
I always say play veteran first.. if it isnt fast enough switch to nightmare... I doubt you'll get far but you wont say it's slow
honest lynx
Yeah on recruit like they did
Maybe
But if veteran then sure. But the difficulty spike isnt the same
Nightmare is a different beast
scenic stratus
i beat the game in 4 or so hours on veteran, it isnt hard like nightmare... i really like nightmare
honest lynx
You cant go back from it really
scenic stratus
yeah
honest lynx
Fuck bro. . I'm sorry to hear that
scenic stratus
and bfg edition doesn’t have cloud saves
so I’m gonna have to play the entire game again to unlock nightmare
honest lynx
Dont give up. You can do recruit in about 3 and a half to 4 hours less if you just run
Then redo nightmare
I've been in your spot before
scenic stratus
veteran in 3-4 hours is pretty easy too if you know what youre doing
honest lynx
Just speed run it and you're back to nightmare in no time. Might even give you a bit of relax time doing recruit or veteran
scenic stratus
Honestly rushing would have been so much better if you did not have to reload...
Like you probably can memorize all the spawn locations and timings and memorize what weapons you have to use and when... but that will just be way too much work.
rough crystal
ngl my only complaint about doom 3 is how dark it is
horror elements are ok
but the facility is too dark
versed estuary
You try BFG?
BFG edition improves lighting/ makes it brighter
Plus you can further increase the brightness slider to max to make it even brighter
And shoulder flashlight means on top of everything you can have flashlight on almost nonstop
mild nest
(Quick question, is the switch port the bfg version?)
Both original dooms had plenty of dark points imo. Lots of pinky ambushes in the dark halls of doom 1.
versed estuary
Yep switch port is BFG version
Which means brighter. More ammo. More health, and includes both expansions
The game also runs at 60fps
mild nest
Nifty. Though its still kicking my butt with all these ambushes 
little raven
What you expect it’s the easiest difficulty
scenic stratus
it’s too easy
people start out playing on recruit then complain about it being slow because it’s too fucking easy
little raven
I think most people don’t play on recruit though
scenic stratus
And even if they do, it's their fault.
Besides the game was made in 2004. Back then you still had to use brains to solve inconveniences.
Usually yes.,
Hand holding in modern games is just unreasonable.
I am actually now getting flashbacks to CoD WW2 first mission...
That part is so scripted that you are literary killed if you go slightly off the path.
No the 2017 one
Look
On first mission you have to storm the beach. Once you are finally out of the cutscene, you have to stay close to your sergeant and only move when he says so and then follow exactly where he goes.
And there is absolutely no reason for you to move in exactly that direction.
So if you decide to go somewhere you want to, the machineguns on the other side of the map instantly aimbot to your position and gain infinite ammo.
So i straight up died 26 times in that first 5 minutes of the game, because i could not figure out how to get past those MGs.
Like i was sitting behind a cover, and that MG was just firing at my location nonstop.
Yep.
I was like trying to figure out how on earth i had to get past that MG, turns out i had to follow that goddamn scripted path that was arguably the worst place to go.
And ofc, the MG conveniently stopped firing when you were following the sergeant.
I mean sure there are exceptions. But for the most part, current AAA games babysit you way more than than they used to.
I mean Doom 2016 and Eternal are nowhere near that bad.
What exactly is your problem with Doom 2016?
In that case you are playing the wrong game.
That is like saying that you don't want to drive fast in a racing game...
Besides, you can finish Doom 2016 by only using SSG.
In fact, that was one of the big complaints about it. The balancing was so bad, you can just use 1 weapon despite carrying 10.
The lack of story is false, considering that even before Eternal, Doom 2016 had a VERY well made story, if you have read the codexes and some outside infos.
Lack of reloading is taken from Arena Shooters. Reloading takes out your valuable time. The time in which you could be shooting instead.
Again, nobody is forcing you to use all weapons in Doom 2016 for sure.
Besides, Doom 2016 is a single player arena shooter. That genre as a whole is based around those factors:
- No reloading
- Running at sprinting speed all the time, with 100% control.
- Carrying unreasonable amount of weapons, fit for every situation.
Like honestly, i would expect for you to be more annoyed by the fact that you can only carry 1 or 2 guns in nearly every modern shooter as opposed to 10
You cannot create a game that can contain every single playstyle imaginable.
That is just logically and physically not possible.
In that case, how would you have made it better?
(Aside from mod support, which is an obvious thing at this point.)
Ok in that case
"I am forced to reload my guns by the developer. Don't like it."
"I am forced to primarely use 1 weapon. Switching to another is too long and cannot be realistically done in combat."
"Why am i so slow?"
See the problem?
As for the story, you probably did miss a very crucial part about it. That could be gotten out of it by simply playing the game and without even reading the codexes.
In fact, Doom's story, especially after Eternal could be seen as a huge middle finger to the general mentality in modern story telling. And i bloody love it for that.
It is not exactly part of the events that are happening inside the game. But the general message of the way the story is presented. And especially the Doom Slayer himself.
Have you been playing Quake or Unreal Tournament games back in the day?
Well for the context then.
Back in early 2000s, when Quake and Unreal were at their prime, first person shooters generally had a common theme.
About a single badass dude destroying everything in sight.
That has changed a lot in modern days.
Pretty much yes.
If we take a look at Valorant or CSGO for example. It is your team against the enemy team. That has always been the mentality behind those games, and majority of other popular titles, especially Esports ones.
Back in Doom, UT and Quake days, it was you against everyone.
A brutal silent killing machine that resoooolved problems by shooting bullets into them.
And what Doom 2016 does
It brings that mentality in a single player game.
There are no "feelings" here. There is no character development. There is no some phylosophical or moraly conflicting choice making here.
And all of that for a reason.
You have a problem. You can rip and tear your way to it. And then rip and tear the problem itself.
You watch anime by any chance?
Well honestly same thing can be applied to movies really...
If we take Avengers for example. Notice how much time both Infinity War and Endgame have put into character development, their emotional struggles and finding hope where there is none left.
Compare that to Doom where Doom Slayer, who has lost everything he held dear, found only one solution. And that solution is total annihilation of those responsible.
That way of story telling is basically dead at this point. In every media. And Doom brought it back.
That is what is the most important in Doom's story in my opinion.
marble dune
This may be the most long winded and obtuse conversation I've ever read.
scenic stratus
Maybe this video will make you like new Dooms more.
If you are always swapping your weapons, you can consider to be one weapon at that point.
marble dune
bruh what
scenic stratus
Most people switch weapons when finding a new demon and using the appropriate gun for that type of demon.
I use all my weapons on a single demon
Well to each their own.
Tho do not expect a Doom 3 reboot... ever really.
Doom 3 was an outlier and a lot of people disliked it because it went too far off what Doom original was.
Doom 64 is your next best bet.
After that, you better take a look at other franchises.
marble dune
64 deserves the Doom 3 title so much more than actual Doom 3
marble dune
I think you're the first person I've seen say they dislike 64. I don't like it nearly as much as the first 2 but it's still a decent game.
scenic stratus
I do not see what to like about 64. Other than the massive graphical upgrade over the classics.
Walking around in identical looking rooms, trying to find a switch and then trying to find the door that that switch opened...
For 40 levels...
Original Doom was nowhere near as clusterfucked as 64.
Yes there were definitely 64 moments there. Which i also despised. But most of the time, i was just moving forward, shooting armies of demons and by defaut got to the exit.
versed estuary
^^^^
I love how every doom is just doom enough to be doom. But different enough to play every doom for a different reason
Personally I love doom 3 for the atmosphere and graphical artstyle
The entire. Feel of the game is great
Hmmmm
versed estuary
The way the game uses lighting and enemy placement to freak you out/ scare you
And the entire Lost Mission expansion
scenic stratus
For every nanosecond that these fuckers are alive, i am getting anxiety.
Vulgar from RoE
versed estuary
^
scenic stratus
Which look like xenomorphs 😆
versed estuary
Imps but thEy throw fireballs every like 2 seconds
And they yeah look like xenomorphs
scenic stratus
I will let you guess how many times i got 1 tapped by their unavoidable leap attack when playing on Nightmare
versed estuary
In the main campaign there is this part where it’s dark and you go up stairs. And then a single light goes on under the stairs and you see the shadow of the imp.
Or lost mission where you hear nothing, grab armor. Turn around and a silent imp is standing 2 inches away.
Those moments are great
scenic stratus
Actually
versed estuary
I will say The main campaign Suffers a bit from “ Imma put a lunging imp behind every door” syndrome
scenic stratus
The Door Demon and the Skeleton Laugh are the best Doom 3 moments imo. Both are in Communication Transfer.
versed estuary
Lost mission imo is super great. Nonstop action. Fast paced. Have like 5 weapons by the 13 min mark
versed estuary
Main campaign Hell imps
And Hell hell knights are incredibly awesome
sterile pasture
The assault rifle feels like a pea shoooter.
Also why does the game cheaply spawn enemies behind you?
versed estuary
Turn around
sterile pasture
No u
versed estuary
I do
scenic stratus
Campbell was kinda odd tbh. Mindlessly obeying everything what Swann said. And then going solo after Serge for no reason. And on his dying breath, all he could think of was finding Serge.
versed estuary
It’s supposed to add to that “ horror I’m alone as a simple marine “ feel
Demons everywhere. Front. Back. Closets. Hallways. Ceiling. Floors
versed estuary
I will say, the intros in doom 3 for bosses was spot on
scenic stratus
Whoever made that was honestly a mad genius
versed estuary
Guardian.
Cyberdemon especially had an amazing intro. Too bad it’s fight sucked
scenic stratus
Invulnerability Hunter was a pretty good fight.
versed estuary
OH my favorite part of doom 3 hands down is The Lost Mission Hell
That is truly the Best looking hell in Doom
scenic stratus
True
versed estuary
Doom 3 truly got hell down perfectly
scenic stratus
speaking of “they took my baby”, on my first playthrough, I thought the voices would always lead to goodies. Then later in delta labs, I followed the voices, and they led me to a bottomless empty elevator shaft
honest lynx
So is the voice of the mom actually vagary messing with your head ?
scenic stratus
Idk
There’s a theory that the vagary was a human at one point
but the two of them appearing in hell outpost before the cyberdemon basically disproves that
static galleon
Why doom 3 is the best game in the earth and hell?
Reasons:
1st: I don't know xd (sorry, my english sucks
👌
little raven
Actually your English doesn’t really suck that much
static galleon
Ohhhh, is the beautiful thing you said to me 😢 bro, don't make me cry (NO HOMO)... But why that hate to Doom 3, yes I know is not like a Doom (2016) or eternal but have a good horror essence (for my, I don't know if you and they think like me)
little raven
I honestly like 3 more then 2016
static galleon
I remember my first time with doom 3 and was awesome 'cause I feel the horror (i was 11 - 12)... Why you like doom 3 more than the others?
versed estuary
Doom 3 is personally my second
Atmosphere, horror, lighting, the nice graphic/ old artstyle. Fluid movement/ gunplay
static galleon
What about the guns? Is much better doom 3 or doom 3 resurrection of evil? I think is a stupid question
static galleon
I agree... And the boss? Which is the best boss? And which is more difficult in hard or nightmare mode?
versed estuary
Best boss? Malidect. It’s an actual boss fight
scenic stratus
Doom 3 is actually a really nice change of pace.
honest lynx
Malidict on nightmare is prime
scenic stratus
ok
so
i just got my new computer in the mail
and it's vr compatible
so to make my second playthrough of doom 3 a bit more interesting, I’m gonna play it in vr
scenic stratus
@red island Take a look at this. Is perfect for the convo we had yesterday.
https://youtu.be/DjbErUC8hFk
rough crystal
ngl Pinky appearance was my fav introduction
honest lynx
Just wish it showed up a bit more in og 3
ebon cedar
3 fuck doom
scenic stratus
doom fuck 3
@scenic stratus y
because its too scary
Mean Doom 3 is good
It was meant to be scary.
It just didn't feel much of a game. More of a tech demo
scenic stratus
Mean I wasn't scared the first 100 times
It's just here's the fault with horror it's gonna be scary for so long
@ebon cedar to be fair. Doom Eternal is just a shooting gallery just like the old dooms
But Doom 3 has the atmosphere part down
scenic stratus
Like it has lore and amazing real time lighting
ebon cedar
like you know that generic stock video game footage they use in movies and stuff? doom 3 is one of those.
scenic stratus
While doom 2016 leans too much on the action part.
Mean Doom was originally meant to be a horror game
scenic stratus
Hell in the original dooms, it can spook you in ways unexpected
ebon cedar
fuck real time lighting
scenic stratus
The only thing I don't like doom 3 is the shotgun
The shotgun is terrible, but a small spread
It also fixes the repititive game play of the original
ebon cedar
ive said this like 1000 times but all the guns in doom 3 are bad in some way
scenic stratus
Because in the original dooms
You get the key card
Go to the exit
Shoot the demon
ebon cedar
uuhh you do that in doom 3 too. its just surrounded by idTech Bumpmapping Megatexture Technology(tm)
oh and they turned the lights off
ebon cedar
what secrets
scenic stratus
In the old game it was just. The secrets was just ammo
Like locker codes and all the lore and pda's
And documents
scenic stratus
What's so great about 2016 compared to 3
You just do the same thing over and over.
ebon cedar
if anything it causes me to get my ass beat because one imp came out of nowhere and scratched me to shit while I was listening to some bimbo talk about how dumb her job is
ebon cedar
yes, and?
ebon cedar
you also can find actually cool secrets unlike doom 3
and the cacodemon doesnt have down syndrome
scenic stratus
The secrets are just action figures
Of the same doomguy with a different color palette
ebon cedar
and classic levels, and the action figures act as model viewers
scenic stratus
Yeah
ebon cedar
and I fucking love model viewers
scenic stratus
Eternal I'll admit does the game better
Mean the combat isn't as good as doom 3
But hey. It's way better
ebon cedar
doom 3 combat
good
scenic stratus
Sure it's slower
But it's better
While in the other dooms you just run like sonic the hedgehog with a double barrel shotgun shooting demons
Doom 3 you have to actually care about the environments and pay attention
ebon cedar
you're lucky bobthemod isnt looking in this chat right now, he would destroy you with facts and logic for calling the game slow
little raven
Because it isn’t slow
ebon cedar
here we go
little raven
Try playing on a difficultly that gives challenge
ebon cedar
god i hate doom 3 people
scenic stratus
Dude he actually. Likes doom 3
Mean I like ROE
It's better than doom 1 and 2 put together
little raven
Most things are better then doom 2
scenic stratus
But I didn't like the grabber. It didn't work like HL2's gravity gun
ebon cedar
are those games even comparable
little raven
Like all other doom games are better then doom 2
scenic stratus
I'll be honest
Doom 2 is better than Doom(Classic)
But imo eternal is the best game
ebon cedar
Doom 2 is better than Doom
ban this guy
little raven
Eternal
Doom 64
Doom 3
Plutonia
Doom 2016
Doom 1
Doom 2
ebon cedar
Doom 2 is better than Doom(Classic)
ban this guy
little raven
Doom 1 is great what are you talking about
scenic stratus
2016 is awesome
little raven
Doom 2 is a mess of shitty level design
scenic stratus
Yeah but Doom 2 has more variety
How is it shit.
I played through both games.
And I felt doom 1 had inferior
ebon cedar
it has crap level design yadayadayada
scenic stratus
Because doom 2 was more open and creative
ebon cedar
I dont really have a problem with doom 2 I just like doom 1 better because the level design isnt ass
scenic stratus
It showed what the doom engine can do
ebon cedar
thats a fair point
scenic stratus
Final doom is like the masochist doom
little raven
Like having vertically be horrible because of infinitely tall monsters
little raven
Eeehhhh
ebon cedar
I would say the soundtrack is the same. its not really better or worse
its just more of what doom 1 did
scenic stratus
But Doom 64 is a isn't bad.
It's just better than doom 3, but not as good as 2016
ebon cedar
doom 64 is doom 3 but it has brain cells
scenic stratus
I feel like it is the true Doom 3
little raven
It’s better then both 3 and 2016
And 3 is better then 2016
64 is my favorite next to eternal
scenic stratus
Honestly 3 worse than 2016
The combat and upgrades and stuff
Like 3 I'd give a skip
ebon cedar
3 is just a brainless game, especially a brainless doom game
scenic stratus
The only reason I'd play 3 is if I wanna beat every doom game.
My friend gave me the original game on steam
little raven
2016 is boring to me
It’s the most brainless of the bunch
If I wanted to play 2016 like games I’d play eternal
ebon cedar
at least 2016 doesnt waste my time
scenic stratus
It's the only game I played from start to finish
little raven
There is no reason to play 2016 over eternal
scenic stratus
3, was like okay okay can we get this cutscene over with
@little raven there is loads of reasons
ebon cedar
it doesnt have anything like that stupid fucking fuck peice of garbage service lift section in doom 3
scenic stratus
Many prefer the graphics and gameplay
little raven
You can skip cutscenes in 3
scenic stratus
Yeah
ebon cedar
and it takes like 5 hours to shoot the first demon
scenic stratus
Doom 2016 felt more like the original games, but more improved
Eternal is like alright 2016. Imma give u steroids
little raven
Eternal is 2016 but literally everything is better
scenic stratus
I wouldn't say everything
ebon cedar
unfortunately you're kind of right. Eternal made 2016 age badly
although presentation in 2016 is better
scenic stratus
I like the dark tones over the bright palette In eternal
The multiplayer is wayyy better
ebon cedar
the gameplay of eternal with the presentation of 2016 would be the perfect doom game
little raven
I just played 2016 again and I tried to make it more fun and I can’t
I’m just tired of it
I played it to much
scenic stratus
If only the multiplayer was good then I'd say eternal is an improvement over everything 2016.
ebon cedar
eternal was just like "aight imma give you these 80 new game mechanics in one level, have fun"
honest lynx
Try switching from recruit to nightmare and you might have to use some of those brain cells of yours bud
scenic stratus
Eternal is pretty good though
ebon cedar
I played on veteran, still brainless
little raven
It’s only as slow as you are
ebon cedar
if it was real doom 3 it wouldnt be locked off until you beat the game
scenic stratus
Doom 3 and 64 has pretty mediocre designs
It tries to be scary, but they look boring
little raven
At least in 64 the sprites aren’t full of holes
ebon cedar
I wonder how bad doom 64 would be if you took all the maps and made them all fullbright
honest lynx
Move fast know the map dont hide you're on the offensive really increases the pace and makes you realize how amazing it is. Unfortunately they tried to appeal to newbs and it didnt work out for them with that unlock thing... looks like it didnt work
scenic stratus
@little raven you chill
The sprites in doom and 2 are pretty good
But the new ones may look high def, but they look bland
little raven
The best part about 64 is they took out revenants
ebon cedar
know the map
lmao yeah like I have the patience to learn a bunch of dark corridors. no thanks.
little raven
But why keep pain elementals
honest lynx
Looks like you dont have the patient's for anything bud
scenic stratus
I never hated the revenants
ebon cedar
because without them the game would be really easy
little raven
And not arch viles
scenic stratus
They are my favorite enemy in the game.
ebon cedar
I had the patience to beat doom 3 which is pretty amazing tbh
scenic stratus
Arch viles are fun
honest lynx
You played on an easy mode and now you're complaing. Good for you
ebon cedar
veteran is advertised as hard mode
honest lynx
They lied
scenic stratus
I played it on The second to hardest difficulty
ebon cedar
They lied
if you have to contradict the meaning of the difficulty settings that the developers supplied, its probably not that well designed
you're basically reinterpreting the game to be good to you, its not necessarily the games intention
honest lynx
Like I said they tried to appeal to noobs and it didnt work out.
ebon cedar
I thought thats what BFG edition was for
little raven
Bfg edition was for vr
honest lynx
Veteran to nightmare is night and day. You really should give it a try. They tried to make doom 3 to easy unfortunately. They should have allowed nightmare off the bat
ebon cedar
play doom 3 again
nah
honest lynx
Then why are you here
ebon cedar
idk, Ive been here for a while. I dont remember what started this conversation
little raven
You came here and started trashing the game
scenic stratus
Yeah
little raven
Which is just baiting
little raven
What an exciting life you must have
ebon cedar
for the record though doom 3 isnt a bad game, I enjoyed a lot of it
its just far from the best
What an exciting life you must have
yeah tell me about it...
honest lynx
All I'm saying is if you didnt hate the game nightmare really does make it better in every way
scenic stratus
Make fun of me all you want, but I play games on hurt me plenty, rather than nightmare.
ebon cedar
well if I didn't enjoy it that much on "easy mode" I'm probably not gonna enjoy it on nightmare
honest lynx
Play any way you like.
ebon cedar
I'd rather play black mesa or something
little raven
I played on hurt me plenty for a long time
Ultra violence is more fun now that I’ve switched
And doom 3 on nightmare is a completely different game
ebon cedar
no its not, its still doom 3
honest lynx
He doesn't care fluffy hes just here to be annoying
ebon cedar
I never understood when people say "its an entirely different game!!!111". Like no its a built in feature its still the same game lmao
magic helm
doom 3 is the worst doom game don’t @ me
ebon cedar
and people call me defensive over opinions...
scenic stratus
Honestly both of you are.
ebon cedar
hard agree
honest lynx
People call you an annoying baiter that goes from one discord page to the other trying to start arguments
little raven
@magic helm just don’t
Stop baiting
ebon cedar
I really dont try to start them honestly, they just gravitate towards me
scenic stratus
Mean to be honest.
magic helm
i was joking but ok
little raven
Stupid hell knight
magic helm
the reason doom 3 was looked down upon was because it altered the original doom formula
honest lynx
You guys really should take this to general. This is a doom 3 fan discord.
little raven
Just died in doom 2016
honest lynx
You re here to hate not discuss
scenic stratus
Rather than focusing on the negatives.
ebon cedar
Everything about DOOM 3
this is about doom 3
little raven
It’s just annoying
scenic stratus
It's just@ebon cedar crapped on doom 3
While @little raven was just. Well praising over it
little raven
How
ebon cedar
I thought this discord censored that word...
scenic stratus
Yeah I know.
honest lynx
Like I said this page is for discussing doom 3 not just repeating doom 3 bad
little raven
How did you that not get deleted
scenic stratus
Dunno
ebon cedar
so then people can still talk about the simpsons
little raven
That’s one of the banned words you sorcerer
scenic stratus
I typed the word
magic helm
every doom game up until doom 3 were quick run-and-shoot games. doom 3 started to focus on the horror aspects of doom, building suspense and having more story while occasionally including actual jumpscares.
honest lynx
Playing on nightmare makes doom 3 a fast paced running shooter
magic helm
yeah, it does
honest lynx
The others are easy and slow paced. But playing on veteran is how they intended
scenic stratus
Xbox imo is like the way to play doom 3
It makes it fast paced and cutting out sections of the missions flow better imo
magic helm
except half of the first level is mostly just exposition and is not altered no matter which difficult you’re on
honest lynx
Xbox doom 3 is pretty great from what I've heard so far
honest lynx
That's the one with the silver case ?
scenic stratus
Which honestly I liked the shorter Campaign
Since the exposition dragged on for a bit.
honest lynx
Well I did love reading all the PDAs and all videos you can pick up. But I'm strange like that
magic helm
the best part of doom 3 is super turbo turkey puncher 3
scenic stratus
I'll admit that the codex entries are better
honest lynx
I should call my local abandoned game store and ask them if they have it
magic helm
i loved how they brought it back in 2016
honest lynx
Punching turkey sound is my alarm clock
magic helm
mine is hell priest gibberish
honest lynx
I tried classic bfg charge for a little bit but man does it get annoying after a while
magic helm
try classic revenant revenant scream
honest lynx
I'll make that my moms calling ringtone
ebon cedar
setting alarm sounds to things you like is suicide
then you just associate that sound with waking up in the morning and you hate it
honest lynx
It really does ruin it
little raven
A trick I learned with alarms is to have something horrible so you get up and turn it off as fast as possible
scenic stratus
I can't skip the cutscenes
little raven
Press escape
honest lynx
That's what hell really sounds like... oh god
scenic stratus
I'm on Xbox
ebon cedar
thats why my alarm is just my local pop station
honest lynx
Radio really is bad... " 2015s greatest hits "
ebon cedar
le epic bumpmapping technology (tm)
honest lynx
My favorite is betrugers rolling one eye
little raven
Most games from 2004 don’t age well
honest lynx
Yeah I have halo 2... it looks like straight poop now
little raven
But I think the funnyness of it evens out
honest lynx
But it's great
scenic stratus
What about TF2
ebon cedar
thats what happens when graphics are designed for CRTs
scenic stratus
Doom 3 was a PC game
little raven
If a game is about pushing the limits of technology it ages like shit
honest lynx
I remember when FEAR came out it was the most epic looking game... also didnt age well
scenic stratus
Crysis looks decent
honest lynx
It's like graphics are getting better or something
scenic stratus
Even by today's standards
honest lynx
Crysis was nuts... made my PC almost explode
scenic stratus
Honestly Roblox has better graphics than doom 3
honest lynx
Yes it's an old game
scenic stratus
ok, you’re wrong on so many levels about doom 3’s graphics
Roblox has been out around the release of Doom 3, maybe 2 years younger
scenic stratus
Honestly Doom 64 looks good
D3’s graphics are way better than roblox
Eh
Roblox graphics look good
little raven
64 looks so much better then doom 1 and 2
scenic stratus
mostly because colored lighting and better models
There even games on Roblox that don't even look like Roblox
ebon cedar
the monsters look goofy
honest lynx
It looks athletically pleasing yes but doom has better character models
scenic stratus
Roblox has colored lighting
honest lynx
That's just silly
scenic stratus
And better models
ebon cedar
they're either overly detailed or overly cartoonish
scenic stratus
actually
At this point Roblox doesn't look as blocky anymore
fuck doom 64’s cacodemon
honest lynx
Are you playing on a toaster ?
ebon cedar
fuck doom 64s pain elemental, it gives me nightmares
scenic stratus
And I'm playing doom 3 on the highest settings.
Roblox on the most detailed places makes my PC lag
what
honest lynx
Dont make fun of bretrugers semi triangle face okay
ebon cedar
based cpu
honest lynx
Doom 3 old game. Not look so good no more.
ebon cedar
thats just bad optimization
honest lynx
I dont even know what roblox is my dude
scenic stratus
People be out here trying to remake doom 3 in Robloxs engine with the same models and stuff
@honest lynx Roblox is a game where you play as a Lego characters exploring games that others have made.
scenic stratus
There is a group on Roblox making valve games and such
And it functions similarly
honest lynx
That would be a fun project
ebon cedar
roblox is like one of those games where other people make games within that game
scenic stratus
Has someone made serious Sam yet?
Yes
@scenic stratus no?
But I bet someone might have made something like it
welp
ima go learn roblox engine
cya
little raven
Is serious sam good or not
On concept it seems horrible
scenic stratus
It’s fun
ebon cedar
it reminds me of redneck rampage for some reason
scenic stratus
Isn’t this the doom 3 channel?
honest lynx
This is a place of chaos and fun now
scenic stratus
So turns out Doom 3 isn't trash
I like it. It's my favorite doom game now
And on nightmare really brings out the horror in the game.
honest lynx
^Good Gouuud ...
scenic stratus
Yeah
ebon cedar
has anyone here played doom 3: phobos
coral solstice
@ebon cedar damn right
scenic stratus
@scenic stratus we will watch your career with great interest
ebon cedar
@scenic stratus blink twice if gougaru has a knife to your throat
little raven
He’s just annoying
scenic stratus
Fluffy has spoken the words of wisdom
ebon cedar
oh yeah well youre a stupid poopoo doody head who eats doodoo for brunch with a side of pee
little raven
Just stop
It’s just depressing now
ebon cedar
facts dont care about your depression
ebon cedar
because he called me names and hurt my feelings D:
I thought this place was open for people to express their opinions man
why must we fight
cant we all just hold hands?
ebon cedar
at least 13 according to discord TOS
versed estuary
I’m referring to the above sentence
ebon cedar
so am I
scenic stratus
oh yeah well youre a stupid poopoo doody head who eats doodoo for brunch with a side of pee
ebon cedar
well he called me the a*s word so whos the real bad guy here?
scenic stratus
well calling someone an ass for being an ass is justified. it wasnt to hurt you, it was to let you know what your doing so you'd stop. nobody is hurt here, bob only called you out because it was immature, even if its "ironic" its still ridiculous.
versed estuary
It’s more so the fact that it’s an incredibly stupid statement. Regardless of being serious or not
scenic stratus
^
ebon cedar
you think I dont know that?
scenic stratus
im sure you do, but in text picking out sarcasm is nearly impossible, i struggle with this too. just trying to help, man.
ebon cedar
its really funny to me to think that some people take the term poopoo doody head seriously
like there is a possibility that there are people in this world that are seriously offended by that statement
versed estuary
No one is taking it seriously. It’s just that you would think being in the Doom server
A gore filled game
Played by mostly adults.
Would entitled a bit of maturity.
ebon cedar
and I would think a doom server wouldnt censor curse words but you dont always get what you expect
versed estuary
We censor words that for the most part are used for only insults.
Not being rude is one of those rules
little raven
They censor the n and c word
versed estuary
Again, part of the filter is for people to be more mature in the server.
little raven
I’m saying censoring that make sense
ebon cedar
the fact that those words are automatically assumed to be exclusively used for insulting people is pretty funny
like putting poopoodoodie-head on the banned words list makes more sense than the b word because poopoodoodie-head is exclusively used for insulting people
scenic stratus
nobody said poo poo pee pee was exclusively an insult, all that was said is to act more mature in a more adult server.
ebon cedar
and you would think if this server was really that mature they wouldnt need that word filter. thats whats funny about it
anyways I think this convo has been derailed enough from doom 3 for one day
back on topic: doom 3 is bad. there, that should get this channel back on track
scenic stratus
wow, not only did you miss the entire point, but you attempted to start shit by calling it bad. not taking the bait buddy, have a nice day.
ebon cedar
Let me explain: the message "back on topic: doom 3 is bad" is considered, at least in my mind a "joke". the "joke" in this instance in particular was that me saying that doom 3 is bad is what started this conversation in the first place. Therefore, this demonstrates irony. It also, as a beneficial side effect, helps get the channel back on the topic that it was designed for.
versed estuary
If you don’t give an explanation. It’s not an opinion. But rather bait
scenic stratus
doom 3 bad
clap now
furious aplause
haha now where is my medal?
ahem
doom 3 stinky bad too spook not enough gore waaa waaa
applaud now
clears throat
dewm thwee is too ez, it has no rip and tear, and is too slow
furious applause
honest lynx
Doom 3 dark and slow paced reee
scenic stratus
doom twenty sixteeen is gud, it is very fas aand has LOT of rip and ter
waaaaah waaah i played on recruit, way too esy
versed estuary
I gotchu
Doom 3 is a good game. But isn’t a Doom game
takes a bow
scenic stratus
i played bfg edition on recruit for 20 minutes, and i have come to the conclusion that it is slow and bad and is not a doom game.
dumb 3 dark and has stupid magic flashligt
bfc edition is better because new light easier
honest lynx
It not real doom game not no rip and tear
versed estuary
Actually cheddar that is a fact
scenic stratus
i prefer the original mechanic, it adds to tension and difficulty
shoulder light is fine, i dont hate it. but i prefer the original flashlight.
bfc: big fucking crouton
ebon cedar
ah I see. when everyone else jokes good, but when I joke bad
ebon cedar
I was doing something I call "taking the piss" which is what everyone else is doing
honest lynx
Flashlight mechanic is soild for beating imps
scenic stratus
dom 3 hell isnt piss yellow enoug , tehrfor it is hbad
versed estuary
Yes. In the options.
Flashlight in hand. Or shoulder
honest lynx
Pistol flashlight is sick
scenic stratus
honestly a menu like in dkcr 3d with a "new" and "original" mode wouldve been great, new has more ammo and new light, original has the old light and less ammo
versed estuary
I would also take pistol flashlight
ebon cedar
the Doom 3 BFA source port has literally exactly that
versed estuary
Ah but that’s not for consoles
honest lynx
Hows that rumble treating ya
scenic stratus
you want a weapon flashlight? turn it on, nerd
looked into bfa, looks really neat
does it remove some of the ammo? if so i might ditch the og version
ebon cedar
only problem is that it has a bug right now where the grabber distortion effect is fucked
versed estuary
I can’t stand rumble/ vibrations in games.
ebon cedar
does it remove some of the ammo? if so i might ditch the og version
yes but its a seperate mod
scenic stratus
ooh
Honestly I like the BFG edition
I played it on Xbox for a bit.
And it was pretty good
bfg should’ve had vr support out of the box
i like the bfg edition too, i like the og version better, but bfg is still fun
versed estuary
BFG launched 2012
I could be wrong, but I highly doubt VR was any large 8 years ago
scenic stratus
i can’t for the life of me get the fully possessed mod to work on an oculus quest with oculus link
versed estuary
9-10 if we count dev time for BFG edition
scenic stratus
I just wonder why people hate it so much
versed estuary
It’s because it’s not ”proper”
scenic stratus
People complained about the original flashlight, then they remove it and now people are acting like the original was an master piece
scenic stratus
Mean okay the doom 1 & 2 ports have bad sound.
versed estuary
BFG tailors to the larger audience. The one that would be more likely to like it. It is much much brighter overall. Not even counting the shoulder flashlight with weapons.
Much more health packs everywhere
And much much more ammo.
BFG doesn’t care about Ammo saving or spooky.
BFG goes for the full speed go for it approach
Lost mission proves that
scenic stratus
But hey no rest for the living is decent
ebon cedar
"wtf I cant see anything!!!"
"ok we turned on some lights"
"wtf this isnt the doom 3 e x p e r i e n c e!!!"
scenic stratus
I actually liked the BFG Edition more
Because of how similar it is to the original games
i disagree
versed estuary
I like BFG edition more purely because it was on switch and was $10 :3
scenic stratus
Mean sure doom 3 is spooky and dark, but horror games are pretty stale
Unless your resident evil
ebon cedar
any game marketed as "horror" these days is just a walking simulator
scenic stratus
But I never really minded the mounted flashlights
Mean sure it took away the atmosphere somewhat, but I never cared.
Mean doom 3 does take a new direction with doom and I sort of like what they did. Just hated the theme music
I like bfg edition more because for some reason on my laptop with an intel core i5 processor and a nvidia GeForce gtx 1080 graphics card, plus 8gb of ram, doom 3 og barely squeezes out 20fps
But bfg runs at a crisp 120
That's odd
fair
Did you config it
yup
doom 3 og had stuttering problems for me
To make it run at 500 FPS
I never had stuttering issues.
still runs like actual shit
I even upscaled it to 1080p
scenic stratus
And I never noticed it.
yea
I used vanilla doom 3
dhewm3
No mods
still had a bit of a stuttering problem
No source ports
ebon cedar
fhDoom?
scenic stratus
What's that
scenic stratus
me when no doom 3 emotes 😡😡😡
ebon cedar
You were warned in DOOM for: Insulting the master bot
except for this one but this one is boring
little raven
Trite emote
scenic stratus
D3 caco emote
ebon cedar
theres a reason why doom 3 demons dont get emotes
scenic stratus
we need cool doom 3 caco emote
ebon cedar
no
finite needle
.....
versed estuary
Doom 3 caco
We don’t speak of doom 3 caco
finite needle
ok
scenic stratus
doom 3 hell knight needed
finite needle
whats the rule around these parts
little raven
Trite
versed estuary
Honestly out of every doom 3 demon.
Honestly no clue what they were trying to do with the caco
It’s so..wrong
ebon cedar
why the fuck is literally EVERY enemy the same grey color
versed estuary
Hell knight? Spot on
Imp? Super tall and intimidating
Pinky? Ugly robot dog
Rev? Spooky skeleton
Lost soul? Lemme rip someone’s spine out to introduce this
Caco? Flying whale head ?
scenic stratus
doom 3 caco look good
ebon cedar
its so annoying like fuck
scenic stratus
he has
finite needle
screw the Mar Security guys though
scenic stratus
da stylish exposed brain
ebon cedar
would it KILL them to put some color in their textures a bit?
finite needle
damn hit-scanners
versed estuary
Hell Imps best looking imps
scenic stratus
and the stylish more than two eyes
finite needle
the pinky demon is a tad bit different though
ebon cedar
pinky is dumb
finite needle
like with its textures and its overall design
ebon cedar
he aint pink. why he called pinky?
versed estuary
Technically Pinky is a fan name
ebon cedar
did they ever give that demon a name in doom 3
finite needle
its easier to say pinky mainly beceause there are so many demons to kill in all doom games
ebon cedar
or did they do the classic doom route of calling it "demon"
versed estuary
It’s still just “demon”
Doom 3 concept art was the first official source to call it a “pinky” but that was purely because fans called it pinky in the original games so they wanted people to know it is indeed a “pinky”
finite needle
thats its eaistr to spot because the majority of enemies are demons
versed estuary
Doom 2016 however is the first official one in game to call them actual “pinkies”
ebon cedar
hmm
finite needle
true
ebon cedar
one thing I also didnt understand whs why the "pinky" had like robot legs
versed estuary
UAC experimentation
versed estuary
And that
ebon cedar
so a lamer version of 2016 then. nice
finite needle
yeah
versed estuary
Pinky had its weird re design in 3 purely to pit in the narrower hallways
ebon cedar
also the pinky only shows up like a dozen times. he isnt even used that much tbh
versed estuary
Yeah. Man made but not massed produced
scenic stratus
foreskin abomination
versed estuary
At least that’s the only reasoning I would give for it
ebon cedar
offtopic but does anyone else get grossed out by the tyrants grossly realistic foreskin leg
versed estuary
It is pretty ugly
finite needle
I agree, but you had to point that out
scenic stratus
did they ever give that demon a name in doom 3
@ebon cedar
in doom 3 collectors edition for xbox there is a concept art gallery. it refers to it as the pinky.
finite needle
....
ebon cedar
dumb
scenic stratus
its a neat piece of history though. iirc its the first time its officially refered to as pinky
oh yeah
I ordered a doom 3 prima strategy guide off of amazon for shits and giggles
along with a sick ass poster that has the doom 3 hell knight on it
finite needle
I memorized all of the locker codes across the 2 expansion packs for Doom 3
Whats better
The og Doom desgin for the pinky,
scenic stratus
I would send an image of the poster, but can’t post images here
finite needle
or the Doom 3 design for the pinky
scenic stratus
i know a few of the codes
honest lynx
I have the og strategy guide some place
scenic stratus
396 is burned into my memory
versed estuary
I memorized
The website with the locker codes on it
My favorite code I have memorized Is 731
honest lynx
666?
honest lynx
Let the clink clonk begin
scenic stratus
927 is plasma gun code in the office of the lady who gets soul'd
scenic stratus
i dont remember em all by heart, until i get to them
honest lynx
I read all the PDAs like a chump
scenic stratus
i dont.
ebon cedar
I can safely say plasma is the only gun that does not have any major obvious flaw
versed estuary
It’s bullets are slow
scenic stratus
i read a lot of em, not all though. my favorite one is the ad for clone porn
finite needle
Turbo Turkey Puncher 3 is a good way to relax while going through the Mars base
scenic stratus
too bad it only shows up once
finite needle
agreed
versed estuary
I’m a poor scared marine.
Better punch some Turkeys real quick
honest lynx
The pdas are full of just funny ass stories haha
finite needle
!rank
versed estuary
! Commands do not work outside of #vega-playground
scenic stratus
kind of confused me why bfg edition removed all the new games in roe and replaced em with turkey puncher.
finite needle
damn it
scenic stratus
games like hellanoid are fun
honest lynx
Show your skills off to the other marines because they're watching you turkey punch
ebon cedar
because they were lazy, you can also mod those back in with BFA
scenic stratus
i'll stick to the og version, thanks though, i tried out bfa a bit and i can safely say its not half bad
versed estuary
Real talk
Why does it have like 8 buttons and a joystick.
If you only use one. And the game is just punching. No movement or additional buttons required 🤔
finite needle
it feels good to berserk punch turkeys to death huh
ebon cedar
why make a whole new arcade machine mold when you can just build one for another game and switch out the branding? saves a lot of time and money
scenic stratus
nabcon has it figured out
ebon cedar
yes, except its kind of hard. theres an achievement for it in the BFG edition
finite needle
....
then I made a lost soul and an imp to have at each other while I'm watching with a bowl of popcorn
scenic stratus
scenic stratus
no, i expect 16k 3000fps
scenic stratus
that sucks man, keep creeping through the shadows, maybe you'll unlock one some day.
scenic stratus
@scenic stratus You on BFG or regular?
Also remember. GPUs back in 2004 had up to 256 mb of VRAM
Good luck storing 4k textures on that amount of memory.
@scenic stratus I play the original version
i know, this isnt my first rodeo. ive already applied the fixes to the doomconfig file. thanks though.
You can try a sharpening filter. That usually helps a lot by old games with very low res textures.
it was just a joke, i really dont care that much. im not one for trying to make old games looks super new and fancy.
if i can have em in 1080p thats good enough for me
honest lynx
We are the elders aryzon. Do not cite the deep magics to us... we were there when they were written
scenic stratus
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/734102870215098401/735652465898291270/20200722_171804.jpg RoE Xbox has the best flaslight mechanic
oml
ebon cedar
Just found this today, thought it was interesting: https://www.dsogaming.com/news/john-carmack-speaks-30fps-on-consoles-60fps-on-the-pc-doom-3-levels-more-taxing-than-rage/
Carmack has also admitted that the flashlight was not attached to the weapons in the original version of Doom 3 due to performance issues. Although this feature was awesome for its atmosphere, Carmack said that the flashlight would introduce an additional pass for dynamic shadows, meaning that it would had a significant performance hit.
tfw bfg is the way it was meant to be played
scenic stratus
flashlight that can beat things is still better imho
lime plume
yeah idk still prefer the original in that regard. Beating shit with a flashlight was a cool alternative to me.
ebon cedar
flashlights are for vaginas. real men use fists
honest lynx
Salami punches or go home
scenic stratus
but BONK is better
glossy widget
what about ham punches?
mild nest
So im in the alpha labs level, and theres a new type of enemy im confused about. Two headed crawling demons. What do they do? (I assume that they rush in large numbers for melee attacks.)
versed estuary
Yep that’s pretty much exactly what they do
Melee only. And much faster than imps
mild nest
Gotcha, thanks!
Out of curiosity, do they have a name? Or should i come up with a quirky nickname for them?
little raven
They’re pretty freaky deaky
honest lynx
@scenic stratus hows that nightmare run going
scenic stratus
Oh its fun
But I quit and forgot to go back
It really makes the horror part of the game fun.
honest lynx
What would you say is the worst demon / enemy so far
honest lynx
You're not playing nightmare
honest lynx
You're lying
scenic stratus
And the fact you have the soul cube early on
Makes the game fun
I am playing it
honest lynx
What was the most ass enemy in your nightmare run so far
scenic stratus
@scenic stratus how far in the game do you have to get until cherubs show up?
I think the hell
Levels
@honest lynx in the first few it was the Marines and the trites
you said cherubs were your biggest issue in nightmare, but youve only made it to the levels with marines?
honest lynx
@scenic stratus just stop. You're embarrassing yourself
scenic stratus
BRUH 2
CV-11 doesn't even know the crouch chainsaw trick for tentacle commandos
scenic stratus
anyone know a console command the locks the fps to a certain number?
scenic stratus
so i got doom 3 running on my ass laptop at a somewhat smooth 30fps. i could just be playing desktop, but no, laptop fuckery is fun.
hard eagle
I thought i were the only one who know civvie11
grand pike
I know Civvie he does a lot of fps games mostly old ones
little raven
He 217 thousand subscribers
His most famous episodes are his doom ones
How did you think you were one how new him
In the doom server
grand pike
are you talking to jaceaxe
scenic stratus
i know civvie, i got banned from his discord server 
scenic stratus
I love doom 3 !
honest lynx
You'll fit right in here then
versed estuary
Boom
Beaten doom 3
Doom 3 ROE
And
Doom 3 Lost Mission
All on Nightmare
scenic stratus
With god mode*
honest lynx
Nah he did it legit
scenic stratus
he usually links it in his videos, im somewhat friends with a mod there, tell em cheese sent ya 
little raven
Yes that’s a great idea
Tell a mod your here because of someone who got banned
scenic stratus
exactly, works everytime
totally doesnt backfire and get you put on the watchlist instantly
scenic stratus
people complaining about the shotgun spread being too wide in doom 3
me being able to use it like a shotgun in any other id game
versed estuary
I actually find the shotgun fine
If it was anymore precise for how much damage it does there would be little reason to use most other weapons
peak oriole
I didn’t feel like Doom 3 was a real great doom game
It felt like a precursor to Dead Space then anything else
scenic stratus
doom 3 weapon tier list
S: Plasma Gun, BFG, Soul Cube
A: Shotgun
B: Machine Gun, Chainsaw
C: Chaingun
D: Grenades
E: Pistol, Flashlight
F: Fists
versed estuary
counting expansion
The Heart would be SS tier
And SSG would be S tier
peak oriole
The weapons were good tho
versed estuary
I’d even go as far to say SSG is SS tier
Besides 3 demons, it can 1 shot every other demon in game
sterile pasture
He doesn't even have a knuckle duster.
scenic stratus
S: BFG, Soul Cube, Artifact, SSG, Rocket Launcher
A: Plasma Gun, Shotgun
B: Machine Gun, Chaingun
C: Granades
D: Chainsaw, Grabber
E: Pistol
F: Fists
(BFG Edition Chaingun would be moved to C tier because it is heavily gutted)
wym? fists are definitely S tier
little raven
S for salami
little raven
I did it holy shit
Made it to delta labs on nightmare
honest lynx
Now finish it!! Good job buddy
Also the machine gun is damn surgical tool if you can aim
scenic stratus
i have solid aim
scenic stratus
hell yeah
i got doom 3 vr working
i had to put "dxlevel_95" in the launch commands
shit works like a charm
sharp herald
scenic stratus
I feel like doom 3 doesn't work as good as an FPS, but more as a third person or VR