Plenty of shooting but its slower than 2016 for sure
#doom-3
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robust rover
Yeah, Doom 3 Keep you in action but slowly
honest lynx
Alright boys... beat doom 3 in 3 hours 25 minutes... and I platinum the game... good day
Was a hell of a ride https://imgur.com/a/7lU4ylR
scenic stratus
good job @honest lynx you truly are a master of doom 
honest lynx
Cheers brotha @scenic stratus
scenic stratus
Nice bro
sinful marlin
Now do it on nightmare
Jk nightmares gimmick of constantly depleting health is bad, just get yeeted by a Z sec as soon as you go through a door
Also has the worst hp to armor loss ratio like armor seriously doesn’t negate much of anything
robust rover
Depleting HP too fast
honest lynx
Now's the best time since we re all stuck at home
@sinful marlin nightmare is one of the trophies. I did that for all of them. I actually enjoyed the lethality. It increased the tension a bunch and really made you hurt for slow reaction time
valid geode
Wish I could figure out how to use the GoG version of Doom 3 for the rewards in Doom Eternal
tawdry sonnet
Unfortunately, the GoG version is NOT the remaster that consoles got, and doesn't have the network infrastructure in it to connect to the Slayer's Club.
Those of us on Steam feel the same pain, as neither the original release or BFG Edition were updated.
coral solstice
having a good version of the game is better than getting a bad remaster just for a skin
at least in my eyes
errant blade
Would've been really nice if OG Doom 3 was updated to work better on modern systems.
errant blade
also would be nice if it had achievements but that's just me.
last turtle
I recently finished Doom 3 and it suprisingly still hold up to this day a game that came out in 2003
its the lighting that holds up but the textures are really outdated for example the skins to this day look like plastic
scenic stratus
I mean that's too be expected on the texture side... some of them look like plastic coating, some look like smeared painted but that was for the year it came out most likely
the lighting and real time shadows however must have been really impressive for it's time
scenic stratus
not impressive today but definitely good. if a well textured and modeled game released on itdtech4 today it would look good.
proven zodiac
wind yoke
Sadly, never...
waxen plume
Don't think we'll ever get a remastered doom 3 lol
coral solstice
BFG Edition basically is a remaster, and a terrible one at that
waxen plume
Yah.
faint owl
@coral solstice I wouldn't call it terrible. It just listened to the many complaints. It's just most people are stupid for wanting these changes since the maps don't support these types of changes. The original was how it was ment to be played.
tawdry sonnet
And who thought it was a good idea to not be able to use the gun and the flashlight at the same time?
coral solstice
I mean, yeah, it could've been done better, but BFG Edition has basically no downside to the new flashlight
faint owl
Well it's easy. The enemies move slow enough for you to shoot them anyway. The imp takes a while to charge his shot creating light for you to blast him. Easy
scenic stratus
I mean every enemy has a light source of you think about it... the revenants have blue glowing eyes, archvilles have glowing red sickly claws, imp hands are pretty much torches
you barely need a flashlight in that sense... and the game is so dark it wouldn't make much of a difference anyways lol
versed estuary
Yeah I kinda hate how we won’t see any spin off doom games most likely
3 just got too much hate. And the idea of 4 also got a ton of hate
Better for them to stick with what they know people want and works,
It sucks, but at least we can play 3
scenic stratus
I mean you can't please everyone that's just a common fact... Doom 3 got hate from diehard classic Doom fans but it was still a great Doom game. And since it's not part of the timeline anyways, why not make more spinoff Doom games
to start it's own separate timeline of spinoffs
versed estuary
Remember we already gate alternate dimensions thanks to Youngblood, we could literally see ANYTHING at this point
reef spindle
CacoDemon leg fetish
scenic stratus
@robust rover we call that BFG Edition :(
robust rover
Ah yes
scenic stratus
Each time someone plays doom with high gamma doomguy cries inside
He thinks people are scared of the dark
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honest lynx
This is still the most chill place on doom discord. Honestly
robust rover
Yeah
scenic stratus
Aside from the occasional toxic zoomer attempting to ruin our way of thinking (and failing), this is the chillest place here.
robust rover
Lol
honest lynx
Oh yeah. They come one just to say doom 3 is bad and leave. And they've only ever played 2016 .. probably on hurt me plenty
robust rover
all Doom are good in their own way
scenic stratus
"marauder keeps killing me, NERF HIM!!!11"
This one kills me because once you actually know how to fight them it is actually a fun challenge
robust rover
but you can combo the Marauder pretty easily apparently
scenic stratus
ballista + ssg. maybe throw in a grenade at his feet and remote detonation rockets and he is good as dead on spawn.
robust rover
Just like Gauss and ssg
scenic stratus
yes
umbral mango
Maybe it's too soon to say something
but I enjoy Doom 3 despite I'm only at the 3rd lvl
I don't see what's so wrong about it despite the change on the tone
robust rover
I think we could named a "Paradox"
The doom 3 paradox
When the game has the same name and not the same gameplay=Trash for the most of the community
But another game with the same gameplay=Good/Very good
Ex:HL:Alyx, Paper Mario sticker stars...etc etc
or Black ops 4, because its black ops people think that it will look like the 2 but not
umbral mango
Imagine trying to build a lore and a universe but only getting backlash for it
robust rover
Yeah
lime quiver
what does perfected doom 3 do
coral solstice
makes the game shit
to go more in-depth, it adds a bunch of eye-searing flashy effects
makes the Cyberdemon and Hunters vulnerable to regular weapons
adds a shitty extra campaign
and has a broken quicksave system
rotund basalt
big honkin' O O F
honest lynx
Why would you want to use regular weapons on the cyberdemon
scenic stratus
Doom 3 Xbox: nervous sweating
honest lynx
Make sure you bust out your mittens so you can use that controller
errant blade
So, Perfected Doom 3 is basically the Brutal Doom of Doom 3? @coral solstice
coral solstice
yeah
errant blade
Figured as much
scenic stratus
brutal doom is horrible, i have met so many people who refuse to play without it and it makes me want to die
its just not that good of a mod imo
tawdry sonnet
And then there are the people posting the Project Brutality video thinking it looks "good."
errant blade
Sometimes, Doom modding is a mistake.
short warren
loud badger
i love brutal doom
scenic stratus
What's so bad about brutal doom?
And project brutality? I haven't tried playing them really but they do look "good", even if they don't make the game feel like doom anymore
coral solstice
@scenic stratus For starters, BD’s gameplay is kinda bland and unbalanced
Second, it’s not that well coded
Third, the creator is a hypocritical racist dickwad
hardy rapids
Also the developer is a questionable person
yeah
I think the biggest issue i take with him is how he saw 2016 as somehow stealing his ideas and that he should be credited or something
coral solstice
Yeah, even tho the concept of Glory Kills actually predated BD by a few years
When they were still doing Doom 4 1.0
hardy rapids
and also 2016 is nothing like brutaldoom because its good
coral solstice
And Doomslayer doesn’t have a voice that makes my ears bleed
hardy rapids
Actually i take that back my biggest issue with brutaldoomguy is that he thought doom should have reloading
scenic stratus
Fr if you add reloading then you're just playing cod
scenic stratus
It's just that it's the way doom was designed
Don't you have fun while playing (classic) doom even with infinite clips?
The game is still hard without having to wait 2 seconds every 20 shots to reload
The tension itself is that you're fighting dozens of demons while trying to not get hit
coral solstice
I don't really have a problem with reloading in Doom, otherwise I wouldn't like 3 as much
scenic stratus
3 has its own atmosphere
You probably won't feel that ambience with infinite magazines
I have a problem with reloading, because the animation can be really long
honest lynx
Reloading the plasma gun is probably the best feeling of reloading in any game made
honest lynx
. Also cant forget doom 2 ssg
little raven
the plot of doom 3 is basically emperor palpitine trying to take over the world with demons and a private who arrived literally 15 minutes earlier stops him
honest lynx
Making progress marine ! Gooud gooouuud
little raven
He says bring this hell to earth in the exact same tone twice
honest lynx
Youd think hed stop talking shit at some point
little raven
He talks so much shit he repeats himself
versed estuary
3 has reloading, but for the most part is quick reloading
But it’s also slower than 2016,
If 2016 had reloading it would be game breaking
little raven
So uh just got to hell
Yay
This is awesome
All the demons look so cool
2nd best hell in the series
Next to neckrovol
amber relic
I can't even respond to this
little raven
Just fell into lava
Thanks lost souls
amber relic
little raven
I found out why there is hardly any chaingun ammo on mars all the demons toke it to hell
Seriously I haven’t had this much chaingun ammo in ever
A hell Knight falls in one clip of this absolute beast of a chaingun
robust rover
Yeah great chaingun
little raven
Boss time baby
Lets go
Gonna get that soul cube
That was the lamest boss fight ever
That was way too short
Is that really the only hell level
untold imp
I'm surprised you thought the boss level was gonna be any harder
little raven
I thought it would at least survive longer then less then 2 minutes
unreal silo
I’m confused on what to do in the lift section of Communications transfer
where is the security station
zinc stream
i actually thought the doom guy from doom 3 was the eternal slayer.
they both had short black hair, so i just instantly assumed doom 3 guy was eternal slayer.
pliant relic
nah doom 3 is unfortunately not the same chad
don't people think the doom 3 marine is the only unrelated one
and the other 4 games are the same marine
zinc stream
well i mean, it is shown that doom marine from the first two games, are the eternal slayer.
even if it's confirmed with a cheesy line from the comic.
coral solstice
well, first three because 64
wind yoke
@honest lynx Good. Now, fight the boss on Nightmare, and DON'T USE THE SOUL CUBE.
Then call him a joke.
untold imp
@wind yoke literally the only way you kill it is via the soul cube
I‘ve played the game like once, and even then i just mindlessly spammed
wind yoke
Well, take it from me. I killed him on Nightmare without using the Soul Cube on him... because I used the Soul Cube on a Cacodemon for health.
untold imp
Don‘t you get the sould cube at the beginning on nightmare?
wind yoke
Yes.
untold imp
Soul cube*
honest lynx
@wind yoke that was nightmare
wind yoke
Okay, then do it without the Soul Cube.
pliant relic
So Doom 1, 2, 64, 2016, and eternal are all the same marine?
honest lynx
Its not to bad if you hit his shots just takes longer
Fire off the five rockets go left move to the next platform and do it again. Usually get him in 11 rockets
I feel like the malidict was harder on nightmare at first.
carmine sonnet
@pliant relic Doom 1 and 2 prove some problems with that timeline, could be possible though.
tawdry sonnet
My theory: He stayed in Hell long enough for time to loop back on itself and that's when he was ||found by the Sentinels.||
robust rover
Hmm, Doom 3 not in the Timeline
rare wadi
What about Final Doom?
robust rover
Idk, i think now its not in the Timeline, but before yes
little raven
Doom 3 has some great menu music
honest lynx
The intro is a banger. Also I dig the archy music when you get that first encounter archy
I think technically final came after 2
That's exactly how I have it in my head. Seems right to me
Sigil isnt can I dont think
I did sigil a few times but believe it or not I started no rest today. I have to admit I really really love it
The map layout and size plus the demon placement is spot on.
Check it out for sure I really recommend it. I had a solid time today
Now's the best time since we re all stuck at home
honest lynx
Over here in canada they're saying maybe as far as sept or oct
honest lynx
Well when life will be back to normal. I think the projection is just to be on the safe side. It might be earlier if the cases slow down
little raven
Just beat sarge
Boy that was unfulfilling
The hell knight wraith and 2 imps I just fought were harder
scenic stratus
@little raven literally all you need is an 11 year old with a pool noodle and he still dies in under 10 seconds
left rose
Every Doom 3 fans:
https://i.kym-cdn.com/photos/images/original/001/707/524/3ea.png
scenic stratus
thank you hell knight
honest lynx
I need that in my life. Ran out of coffee today
faint owl
doOm3 dOeSn'T fEel lIKe doOm
honest lynx
iT iS tO sLoW PaCeD
robust rover
ITs DaRk
honest lynx
SHOTGUN bad
unreal silo
doom 3 is good, it gets faster paced when you get to the later levels, if it’s too dark use the flashlight, and there are other weapons than the shotgun
untold imp
I personally enjoyed Doom 3. Apart from the shotgun with horrificly terrible RNG, it was good.
unreal silo
yeah the shotgun could 1 shot or 3 shot an imp
at point blank
my personal go-to weapon is the machine gun
untold imp
I prefered the chaingun
honest lynx
Shotgun is hot garbage unless you're a z sec. They get special better shotguns
unreal silo
oof I haven’t gotten that yet
untold imp
since ammo for that is literally everywhere
unreal silo
yeah why does z sec get faster shotties
honest lynx
Because god hates us
unreal silo
or they found the semi auto switch and doom3guy didn’t
honest lynx
Their spread is at least half of yours as well it's insane
They can beam you at 20 feet
unreal silo
it’s also terrible because the ssg is only in RoE
and we kinda needed that in doom 3
honest lynx
You can grab it in lost missions as well
untold imp
Well it was in the BFG expansion for Doom 3
unreal silo
also isn’t the sgt kelly boss a joke
untold imp
What do you think?
honest lynx
Every boss is a joke
untold imp
@honest lynx Took the words right outta my mouth.
unreal silo
I’m on comn transfer lol
but the only reason I died to Vagary was I started the fight with 45 health
honest lynx
They should just make boss battles 40 commandos bum rushing you
unreal silo
so yeah, that fight was a joke
untold imp
@honest lynx Commando's whip can be dodged if you either duck or strafe
unreal silo
chainsaw in this game is also pretty good
honest lynx
Shoot run back duck again
untold imp
@unreal silo It was pretty good but not really worth of note
unreal silo
Yeah
untold imp
I never used it
unreal silo
I mostly use it to kill smaller enemies like z sec and imps
untold imp
Doom 64s Chainsaw was heaven
unreal silo
^
untold imp
That is a chainsaw done right
honest lynx
It's good for killing Archie's if you dont want to waste the soul cube and know where they're spawning
unreal silo
I think the doom hunters chainsaw is a nod to 64s chainsaw
untold imp
Oh yeah I can see the resemblance
robust rover
Chainsaw is weird, why ? People have fear to lost health with a chainsaw, and i prefer 2016/eternal chainsaw , because you look powerfull
unreal silo
insta killing doesn’t feel as good as rapidly killing imo
honest lynx
Chainsaw in doom 3 Is best used for quick spawning kills
untold imp
@robust rover In doom 2016 and Doom Eternal you kinda need it to farm ressources. In other Doom games it was optional
If you for example didn't have ammo, you had to rely on the chainsaw
unreal silo
I love the description for fists in this game
honest lynx
And the salamy slap sound effect?
honest lynx
Unless you're doing a nightmare run on roe. Fists are a shit ton of fun
untold imp
They were as weak as a 13 year old girl hitting a hellspawn
unreal silo
“Balled up hands that attach to the ends of arms. Useful for bludgeoning.”
untold imp
Does anybody wanna know what a ranking FNG is?
unreal silo
fuckin new guy, right
untold imp
exactly
honest lynx
Just living the straight up George poota life during quarantine
unreal silo
ok, I’m confused on what to do in Communication transfer, where is the security station that opens the lift exit
untold imp
What I find amusing is that after that guy who calls you a ranking FNG gives you an Objective, you can go to the guy on the computer and you'll see what he's writing.
unreal silo
“ I would also like to add that this new recruit is extremely rude.”
honest lynx
Yeah and he types how you're watching him hahah
untold imp
I lost my stuff there, that was hilarious
Anyways, the enemy I hated the most were those little baby like creatures
I forgot their name
honest lynx
The vault 40 feet into your face haha
robust rover
The Cherub look crispy tho
unreal silo
Should I have the rocket launcher before the chaingun?
I keep seeing chain gun ammo everywhere and I don’t have it yet...
rare wadi
Does the Doom³ on Bethesda's store come with the flashlight mod like the BFG edition did? Is the gamma or other lighting messed up like the BFG edition's was?
coral solstice
the 2019 port of 3 is based on BFG Edition, yes
unreal silo
Martian Buddy Locker in Administration, I think. And then officially in Alpha Labs 2, during the EMP sequence.
@red island im on recycling sector...
OOF
untold imp
unreal silo
ive seen this before
scenic stratus
whenever i see soneone type doom³ i read it as doom cubed
untold imp
smort
scenic stratus
Heh
untold imp
lmao
scenic stratus
Does Vega check for caps based on a ratio or a count?
scenic stratus
I'll test it
lmao
Why is there a 30 seconds cooldown on #vega-playground ? That channel should be used for bot abuse
untold imp
I really don't know
scenic stratus
hey vega, this is what i've written before that you didn't like and insta-removed because it was all in caps. why did you get mad at me for doing something like that? anyway, here it is:
CUBED DOOM
CUBED DOOM
Nope, it still works here. It's a ratio after certain count indeed
okay, I see
coral solstice
I feel like that was the joke because it's actually 3D now
scenic stratus
the wizardry carmack pulled off in the 90s to get games like doom working is mind blowing.
untold imp
Or that he invented the 'reverse carmack' as he would call it. It basically allowed for real time shadows to be rendered into games
scenic stratus
yep
rare wadi
I always thought of it as Doom Cubed. Since it's an alt. timeline.
And the Soul Cube. Beast weapon.
scenic stratus
USE US
rare wadi
Best Doom 2016 paperweight.
honest lynx
Pls... use us
scenic stratus
haha soul cube go BEE BEE BEE
untold imp
Haha Chaingun go BROOM
scenic stratus
haha betruger go GENERICVILLAINLAUGH.MP3
unreal silo
haha doom3guy go ...
untold imp
Haha BFG go VRRROOM
scenic stratus
haha shotgun go POOM
scenic stratus
haha flashlight go BONK
versed estuary
Chainsaw in 3 was so satisfying ngl
untold imp
haha cherub go vault 100 meters
haha commando go genericwhipsoundeffect.mp3
haha z sec go good shotgun rng
haha Sergeant Thomas Kelly go Took your sweet time Marine? Here's the situation. Another member of the science team has gone missing. Since you're the RANKING FNG, you get to find him.
haha lost science team member go No, no. You must let me get this communication out. They have to be warned while there still is time.
haha lost souls go Freeeeeeeeedooooom B*tches fck yeeeaaaah yeeee haaaaw
wind yoke
When you can't gib enemies, they go flying instead.
honest lynx
Garlic goes... nothing garlic is dead
untold imp
haha Phoenix go Phoenix.exe not found
pliant berry
Are there any achievements on the BFG edition that are now impossible to get? I want to know before I start trying to get every achievement
untold imp
Don‘t think so
pliant berry
Ah nice that's epic
Would you reccomend doing veteran first or jumping straight into nightmare? (Assuming I've done marine)
scenic stratus
nightmare is brutal and genuinely scary, just ask @honest lynx
untold imp
@scenic stratus Nightmare might be brutal, but it‘s the most fun difficulty for sure. You start off with the soul cube and that‘s your only way of healing up. Oh and to also mention that your health gradually drops down to 25 hp.
pliant berry
Yeah it supports a tactical and slow approach tbh
untold imp
That‘s what I like about that difficulty, it keeps you aware of every step that you make
pliant berry
Yeah once I finish the final DLC (lost patrol) I'm gonna start playing on nightmare
faint owl
Oh it drops to 25? I thought it drops to 0 will definitely give that a try then
honest lynx
Yeah nightmare takes the intensity up to 13... and its honestly a shit ton of fun if you have the skill
untold imp
Yeah nightmare takes the intensity up to 13... and its honestly a shit ton of fun if you have the skill
@honest lynx It's still very hard if you're not careful
wind yoke
Here's the icing on the cake... there are no medkits.
untold imp
Here's the icing on the cake... there are no medkits.
@wind yoke exactly
wind yoke
It was designed to make you feel absolutely hopeless.
Thankfully, you start with the Soul Cube, and keep it throughout the whole game.
wind yoke
It'd be impossible.
untold imp
It'd be impossible.
@wind yoke just imagine how scary it would be to lose 1 hp
honest lynx
Well you dont have the soul cube in roe but the artifact is pretty wicked.
Wasnt impossible. I honestly didnt even use the soul cube very much on my main campaign playthrough because I kept saving it for a part I'd be stuck on or something which didnt happen lol
pliant berry
the only reason id do nightmare is if i wanna achievement hunt, which ill probably at least try
untold imp
the only reason id do nightmare is if i wanna achievement hunt, which ill probably at least try
@pliant berry You have to try nightmare out. It's hella fun
pliant berry
sounds really difficult xD
i struggled at some parts on marine so this is gonna be fun
honest lynx
Give it a shot. Only way to get better
scenic stratus
i have to finish my nightmare run
honest lynx
Dou it !!
scenic stratus
i will finish it after i finish majoras mask. (yeah not doom, still playing the shit out of it)
jovial wadi
Doom 3 is best game
pliant berry
for some reason i tried to punch the first enemy to death
went as well as you may think
also, can you get the achievement for kills with fists via human npcs?
wind yoke
@pliant berry No
pliant berry
oof
honest lynx
You can get it with berserk though , but I'd punch the zombies in the begining or anytime they pop up and it should be a cake walk to get the achievement far before the end of the game
pliant berry
nice, ill probably do a run on the lowest difficulty for all the easier achievements
honest lynx
You can also shoot them a couple times and then finish them with the punch. Usually three or four shots and a punch should do it
little raven
I’m at caverns 1 please tell me I’m almost done
honest lynx
Yeah you're pretty close
neat moth
I don’t get why Doom 3 gets so much hate
coral solstice
because "iT's NoT dOoM"
wind yoke
It deserves more praise. A horror-based Doom game is perfectly fine. You're fighting the forces of hell after all.
Why wouldn't you make a horror game about it?
versed estuary
It’s not a main doom game
It’s a spin off
And sadly the last Doom spin off we are likely to get =/
coral solstice
and the rail shooter
honest lynx
Man if its doom chances are I'll love it. They all have there amazing aspects. Real fans at least appreciate doom 3.
wind yoke
There was a Doom rail shooter?
wind yoke
Oh, I thought like a rail shooter at an arcade.
little raven
3 is a great game and all but it goes on way longer then it needs to
honest lynx
It's a really short game ... what do you mean ?
charred fox
I love 3 but I do think it soooorta drags
In that you think it’s about to escalate to a conclusion after hell but then there’s like 3 more hours
BUT I suck at vidya so iunno
honest lynx
Meh I thought it was intense and insane every minute. But then again I play on nightmare.
honest lynx
They really should. That dull drag feeling will go away real fast
little raven
Nightmare is when you have 25 health as your max right
honest lynx
Yeah basically and no health packs
You basically need to have your movement down because everything one hits you
robust rover
And the Soul Cube is useless
honest lynx
Basically. Never really used it unless I quickly wanted to mess up a "boss"
little raven
It may not be long
But it feels long
scenic stratus
I really am out here digging through pak003 to find the ambience that plays in the area of mars city underground with the crane
the struggle is real
versed estuary
I appreciate the thumbs downs on my post when what I said was 100% true, Doom 3 is indeed not a main line doom game
It’s much closer to a spin off
That’s the issue people had with it when it came out, it called itself Doom 3.
But it wasn’t, it wasn’t a continuation of Doom 2.
It was a reboot of doom 1
And it had new mechanics
Just because it’s a spin off doesn’t mean it’s bad, it’s one of my favorite games
scenic stratus
I feel like you can sub Doom 1 & Doom 2 with Doom 3 & RoE
Similar story
And because of how vague RoE's ending is you could probably tie it into Doom 64 and therefore 2016 and Eternal
Now where's that fucking sound file
versed estuary
I mean if you want to combine portals dimensions and technicalities everything is connected
scenic stratus
Eternal proved that Hell can serve as a gateway between dimensions
versed estuary
And so did Wolfenstein Youngblood
scenic stratus
So it's entirely possible Doom Slayer was Doom3guy at some point
But that's a whole lotta headcanon
versed estuary
Portals and dimensions are always tricky to deal with
Because you can cheese so much using them
Hey remember my 15 random games? Actually they are all connected! Huzzah
scenic stratus
I'm about to replace Doom 3's main theme with Eternal's
Eternal's slows down to ambience around the time 3's ends so I could get it to work
Gotta convert it to a .ogg file and fade it out so the cut at 2:47 isn't so abrupt
aaaaand done
now to replace the pause music with terrordome
viral pebble
i have the original doom 3 on steaam but it wont display on my external monitor. how do i fix this?
honest lynx
Doom 3 could have easily been a prequel if they made it in the 2060s or so
scenic stratus
@viral pebble odd, have you tried the dhewm 3 source port?
amber relic
the checkpoints
so godawful
stable lake
in my headcanon Doom 3 is just skipped bcs idk where to place it
just Doom 1 -> 2 -> 64 -> 16 -> Eternal
untold imp
Yeah I don‘t know either which timeline Doom 3 is
pliant berry
honestly i prefer the thought that doom 3 is seperate timeline because the gritty atmosphere of doom 3 would clash with things like the Khan Makyr etc
stable lake
same
shell slate
I've always considered Doom 3 a sort of spin-off.
scenic stratus
Every doom game has a different tone anyway. When I play eternal it doesn't feel like doom 1,2,64 either. Hell even 2016
untold imp
I mean everyone has got different taste for video games
I personally like bd64, but no as much as brutal doom I or Doom II
scenic stratus
Wrong channel lol. We're Having this convo in doom 64 @untold imp
shell slate
I think the only thing that sets Doom 3 apart is the horror aspect.
untold imp
Wrong channel lol. We're Having this convo in doom 64 @untold imp
@scenic stratus oh lmao I apologize
scenic stratus
@untold imp no problem. I just thought i had a stroke for a moment lol
untold imp
@untold imp no problem. I just thought i had a stroke for a moment lol
@scenic stratus Ah nah mate it's completely my fault I'm an idiot and wrote that here in the Doom-3 chat.
scenic stratus
@untold impthere's so many channels it's hard to keep track
honest lynx
Theres so much hate for doom 3 that I doubt they would ever even bother with a remastered
Which is sad
versed estuary
Ikr?
I’d Lowkey be down for a Doom 4 game brought back from the scraps
Maybe make it darker than it was, much closer to doom 3 in terms of feel,
First level is bright, just soldiers walking, then 5 min later the transport carriers from Doom 3 arrive crashing into earth ripping open a portal from hell
The world is covered in a dark haze, clouds everywhere, everyone dead it’s just you
Get a radio call,”find out what’s happening”
Spend 6 levels getting towards hell portal, get sucked in , 3 hell levels, come back to earth, which time somehow passed not 3 days but months,
Earth is much more corrupted, demons everywhere, End’s with a Titan entering Earth and you blowing yourself up with a massive stockpile of BFG ammo while surrounded by thousands of demons
Or something idk
shell slate
Maybe, I played it at a friend's house and he was hating on it and I'm like 'why did u buy then?' and he was like 'idk' and I played it and the only thing that ruined it was the horror aspect.
scenic stratus
Eh i Iike scary stuff
little raven
But it’s not scary
scenic stratus
That's subjective
It's horror oriented. Also it's old now. Doom 1 reviews called it scary.
untold imp
Doom 1 was scary when it launched, became cartoonish after. Still scary in a few places made specifically to scare players. I wish they'd make Doom 3-style game in the same vein EA separated normal NFS and Shift series (although Shift is dead, so not sure if that's a worthwhile comparison).
Unfortunately, the Slayer's in fashion, so meh.
@red island I agree, for example I remember playing Doom I E2M4 and hearing the music and instantly getting goosebumps. The music in that level is some serious stuff. It makes you think that you're eventually gonna die against the armies of hell. But E2M5 makes you a happy boy (or girl, we're not sexist) again.
shell slate
I mean, I like scary stuff, but I play Doom for the pure violence, if you get what I mean.
honest lynx
Theres plenty of fast paced action in doom 3 if you have the difficulty matching your skill level
shell slate
forgets about the difficulties That's my problem...
honest lynx
Hey if you think the game isnt fast paced enough you're not playing on the right difficulty. I doubt you would have that issue on nightmare
shell slate
I'll try out Nightmare then
honest lynx
You won't regret it. Promise
marsh narwhal
I can't remember anything about Doom 3 mods. I last played in 2012 I think.
I'm looking to replay it, and would prefer a mod that just updates the graphics and gameplay(guns) and maintains the horror aspects. Any suggestions?
I don’t get why Doom 3 gets so much hate
I fucking love the story in Doom 3. Especially the PDAs. Love hearing about shit from before the catastrophe about how things were just getting incredibly weird for personnel in the base. Still remember that one dude you hear talking in the beginning about how his buddy "saw something moving around" in Delta Labs that "wasn't human", and I just imagined an Imp stalking around the shadows getting ready for Betruger to let the packs out
shell slate
Cool
charred fox
Hell yeah man, the PDAs made me feel like I was listening to a campfire story
Added sort of a comfy element to the game for me even weirdly enough
honest lynx
Definitely agree with that. A little relax time in the chaos
versed estuary
It’s still pretty cool how if you have the rock DOOM dvd, and put it in your Xbox, it let you play the doom 3 demo
little raven
Dude the menu music is so good one of my favorite tracks in the series
umbral mango
Doom 3 is a blast far as I am in the game, even if it can be still considered early game, I've been enjoying it much
Currently on Enpro
wintry spruce
i finished Lost Mission and Resurrection of Evil for the first time a few days ago
I just wish the shotgun wasn't so bloody terrible - although the SSG in these two expansions as well as the grabber more than makes up for it
honest lynx
Yeah no use using the standard shotgun in the expansions
little raven
I think you mean no using the standard shotgun period
honest lynx
It's good for close up demon prostate exams
little raven
I call the shotgun the rectum blaster because that’s were the gun needs to be for it to do damage
little raven
Primary evacuation I’m beating this game tonight
Wow that was the lamest boss fight ever
That wasn’t a great ending either
Roe better be good
Why couldn’t that betregur flying demon thing be the final boss
The doom 3 cyberdemon is the 3rd lamest thing id has made
2nd is rage 2
The first is the doom 3 shotgun
little raven
Ok buddy starting nightmare now
honest lynx
Gooud gooud
oak prism
Doom 3's shotgun is still the best melee weapon
carmine sonnet
Oh yes, Doom 3 cyberdemon is probably the worst final boss in any Doom installment
scenic stratus
true
im on enpro on my nightmare run, not making very good progress (havent been playing much) but im getting there i guess
honest lynx
Itll be worth it bro. Great feeling
scenic stratus
boss fights in old Id Software games are universally trash
little raven
Eternal has some good ones
leaden bloom
*boss fights in Id Software games are universally trash
honest lynx
Well malidict had a real zelda boss vibe
For sure a good boss battle
On nightmare anyways
oak prism
Well, Maledict is a real boss compared to the Cyberdemon boss, that's for sure
candid orbit
So before I do buy it, Doom 3, ya or na? And if ya, do I get just standard or bfg edition
candid orbit
Alrighty, I’ll soon have almost all the doom games
tawdry sonnet
Or if you like being able to see things, BFG Edition.
honest lynx
You cant regret nightmare. You embrace the pain and pound through it.
little raven
Ha ha no veteran first time
honest lynx
Think it's time for you to move on from veteran now
scenic stratus
yep
naive isle
So how does doom 3 connect to the rest of the doom universe?
versed estuary
It doesn’t
It’s a spin off/ alternate dimension if you want to categorize it
Since it’s a reboot/ retelling of doom 1
naive isle
Ya I guess that’s the easiest way to place it
honest lynx
They missed a big opportunity to make it a prequel
naive isle
I know
versed estuary
Yeah, but that got screwed as soon as they made it take place in the same year as the Lazarus expedition in 2016
naive isle
Doom 3 was my first doom game so I have a soft spot for it
honest lynx
Yeah they needed to make it 2050s to 60s at least
That's all they really had to do
But I guess they didnt predict the hardcore classic backlash. I'm sure they thought they would make doom 4s and 5s in the same style
naive isle
Ya but don’t ask me why I still enjoy it
honest lynx
I play it as just an average guy against hell and have a blast that way
naive isle
That’s what I did back in 2004 lol
honest lynx
I could barley run the game in 2004 haha
scenic stratus
in the year 2004 running doom 3 in a tiny window on lowest possible settings and grtting 23 fps is an amazing feat
untold imp
I could barley run the game in 2004 haha
@honest lynx Bro my cousin told me she saw the e3 trailer for it in 2002 I think and she said it looked sloppy. But when the game came out she said, it looked way better. She even said the shotgun looked flaccid in the e3 showcase.
scenic stratus
weird
honest lynx
I'm no expert but I think most of the e3 work was prerendered poo poo. They were just starting to do crap like that in 2003 2004. A good example is the original halo 2 "gameplay " e3.. which was a complete lie and was barely functioning on a super computer let alone a xbox
scenic stratus
the e3 shotgun is much cooler
brisk bluff
People were talking shit on doom 3 last night in #doom-eternal 👀
Y’all finna take that?
marble dune
i'll sh*t talk it in this very channel. I despise doom 3 (edited because of the spooky bot)
scenic stratus
you have provoked a gang war
coral solstice
congrats, you just pissed off someone who liked 3 more than 2016
scenic stratus
at least we could all agree that the movies are trash
......right?
nah jk everyone could enjoy whatever they want for whatever reason
versed estuary
I thought Annihilation was “interesting”
If you watch it KNOWING it’s a bad movie, it’s actually not that bad
I wish the entire movie looked like the entire hell scene at the end tho, that woulda been a bit more enjoyable
hexed flower
there were so many characters that i didn't really care about
versed estuary
See that was one issue I had, “let’s introduce 10 characters, 9 of which you already guess will die” waste the first 20 min trying to get you interested in them but not really, then kill em off
I couldn’t feel bad about any deaths
scenic stratus
i wonder why they stopped bringing up doomguy's sister in games
maybe she would've been too nsfw for the intending audience consisting of the devs, demons, and literally everyone else in existance
nobody seems to explore doomguy's tragic past anymore
coral solstice
what sister?
brisk bluff
Semper Fi motherfucker
coral solstice
oh, right, that sister
I thought you were strictly talking the games and not the 2005 film
little raven
That was doom guy that was a shitty actor
In a shitty movie
With shitty effects
And shitty writing
Still better the annihilation
coral solstice
the director was a fan of Doom and wanted to do a movie
Universal didn't think it would be good enough and fucked him over with a low budget
and on top of that, Bethesda didn't let him use stuff from 2016
and didn't want to be involved anyway since making movies wasn't their job
robust rover
Pretty sad for the director
little raven
Don’t do it
It will horrify you for the rest of your life
It is so bad it causes physical pain
scenic stratus
wonder why bethesda wouldnt let them
brisk bluff
You what were good
The dead space movies
Especially the first one. I think it was dead space downfall
GOAT movie
honest lynx
I had a 78 dollar hell knight art piece just commissioned. That's how amazing I think doom 3 is. Haters are just dumb
scenic stratus
gonna sound cliche but the sonic movie was decent, a good take on an already existing character. not a revolutionary film but it does show that the film doesnt have to be EXACTLY the same as the game. however, it kept all the charm and character sonic has and turned it into its own thing. if only we could have gotten something good for 99% of the other video game movies
honest lynx
That was actually a solid video game movie hey. Maybe the curse has ended
versed estuary
Detective pikachu was pretty good
scenic stratus
and aparently miyamoto has some say in illumination's mario movie so it may be broken
versed estuary
Oh yeah I heard about that,
brisk bluff
I refuse to see the sonic movie
scenic stratus
cool
but in all honesty, if you dont like sonic at all i wouldnt recommend watching it.
brisk bluff
I never got into the game series as a kid and it would feel disingenuous to watch a movie about it.
scenic stratus
not saying you have to be a fanboy to like it (im not one either)
robust rover
I think bad video games movie curse end with Ready Player one
versed estuary
Man I didn’t like a single sonic game tbh
robust rover
ignore Doom annihilation
versed estuary
The only sonic game I liked was Shadow the hedgehog
scenic stratus
hwat
versed estuary
Ready player one wasn’t a “video game movie” tho,
It was about games, but the curse refers to SPECIFIC games adapted to movies
Doom mario RE etc
robust rover
Ready Player One is so good but so unknow in my country that i was the only one to watch in my city (13k people)lmao
But yeah
Not a very VG movie
scenic stratus
a lot of people hate the book tho
versed estuary
It was a good movie I agree. I liked it a bunch
scenic stratus
which makes sense because the main character stalks artemis
robust rover
I think the book was bad because its hard to imagine a film like that
versed estuary
True, it’s as much as a visual story as it is a narrative one
scenic stratus
i like the book a bit, some of the fights are cooler and the main adventure is better imo a lot of the padding is just not good
honest lynx
Movie video games are generally bad. Minus lord of the rings. That was a masterpiece
scenic stratus
but lotr is based off books?
versed estuary
^
honest lynx
The game was based off the movies not the books
robust rover
Video Games is better in series i think ? Because more time to polish
versed estuary
Oh you mean the conversion conversion
honest lynx
Fellowship , two towers and return of the king
versed estuary
Since we are on the topic of things being converted.
Metro is one of the best video game from Book conversions I’ve ever played
scenic stratus
as a young lad i used to play the spongebob games on my xbox and its funny how much better the movie game is compared to the actual movie
robust rover
The Metro series ? (Redux 2033 etc etc)
versed estuary
Redux is just another word for remastered
The games are
Metro 2033
Metro last light
Metro exodus
I’ve played 2033. One of my favorite games of all time like holy shit.
I just got last light on my switch, but I haven’t touched it yet, I’mma save it for summer vacation, since I have a shit ton of tests these last 2 weeks
robust rover
They are really good ? Because how much the Exodus was hyped
versed estuary
Haven’t played exodus myself,
But they are such a great story fps game
scenic stratus
i have one of them which i got for free on epic launcher but never really got into it
versed estuary
That was exodus I think
scenic stratus
wasnt exodus
robust rover
Very Long to play ?
scenic stratus
think it was last light
versed estuary
Hmmm 10 hour games the first 2? I think? I could be wrong been a bit since I played 2033
They are survival, stealth, horror, suspense, story, fps games
At least 2033 was
Tons of weapons to choose from, tons of versions with different attachments, some better for stealth others for guns ablazing, Man I enjoyed 2033 so much
scenic stratus
not a big fan of stealth based shooters
versed estuary
Normally I hate stealth games too, but this one does it right
Stealth usually only involves the humans, guns Ablazing are for the zombie alien demon things
robust rover
10h hmmm, i thought it was longer, but, okay, if i can i'm gonna test it
marble dune
I liked 2033 but for whatever reason couldn't get in to Last Light
versed estuary
Not the same?
robust rover
But okay, thanks for the info
honest lynx
Karl urban's actually solid though. He killed it in dredd. If only the writing and script and everything in the doom movie was good
scenic stratus
doom 3 is
the second best doom gameso far
and i JUST got to hell like 10 minutes agk
its so much better than i was told
scenic stratus
"i want to make a real body swap with a girl the body swap is when my soul goes into her body and vice versa i become she and she becomes me who can help me?"
ornate ore
^
scenic stratus
Is there anything for the BFG Edition that restores the muzzle flash from the original? I miss seeing monsters in the flashes of light. It’s such an iconic thing from Doom 3.
scenic stratus
@scenic stratus wow that really is a step back
ornate ore
Oof
scenic stratus
@scenic stratus removing lighting effects
Oh gotcha. Yeah, it’s something to do with Carmack’s lighting system. They had issues porting it properly, leading them to just rip it out entirely.
scenic stratus
which shows laziness
if they had such issues with carmack's then they shouldve programmed their own, its unacceptable.
ornate ore
Its not that..doom 3 was meant to be dark as a horror game it is supposed to be
honest lynx
Muzzle flashes in the dark are pretty damn dope. I have to agree
scenic stratus
If the BFG edition didn't fuck the lighting and ammo I could live with it's existance.
honest lynx
That's a lie
scenic stratus
hmm maybe
scenic stratus
"A week before the game's release, it became known that an agreement to include EAX audio technology in Doom 3 reached by id Software and Creative Labs was heavily influenced by a software patent owned by the latter company. The patent dealt with a technique for rendering shadows called Carmack's Reverse, which was developed independently by both John Carmack and programmers at Creative Labs. Id Software would have placed themselves under legal liability for using the technique in the finished game, so to defuse the issue, id Software agreed to license Creative Labs sound technologies in exchange for indemnification against lawsuits."
When source code for Doom 3 was released in 2011 it had tweaks to the lighting code to avoid infringment, while BFG Edition came out the next year probably using that modified code.
versed estuary
Huh that explains a lot
honest lynx
Damn now that explains alot. They still pulled it off magnificently though
honest lynx
Been playing 64 and classics for a bit now after doom 3 and I have to say I miss it
honest lynx
scenic stratus
how do i return to default brightness setting on xbox one
scenic stratus
what setting do you use
honest lynx
I just noticed some doom 3 assets in that mod
scenic stratus
you live to torment me dont you
honest lynx
Your soul will burn in hell forever HaHahAhAha
little raven
Making progress marine?
scenic stratus
i put the brightness to max
its too dark otherwise
but it does burn a lot of the detail
scenic stratus
yee
little raven
Well we use the fleet to bring this hell to earth
scenic stratus
i swear i hear spike speigel in this game
the flashlight being off center is annoying
versed estuary
It definitely takes getting used to
honest lynx
Sarge is coming for you....
scenic stratus
The build-up is too much
id like to see doom 3 remade in eternal engine with HD models
ornate ore
Rip doom 3 chat
Doom 3 's graphics are ahead of its time, the game itself is a technical achivement, i would think it was released in 2011
urban spire
Half-Life 2: Allow to introduce myself
scenic stratus
They should make an update on doom 3 where it makes it more dark to make it more scary
it's a shame the gameplay didn't match the graphics tbh
little raven
Use us
scenic stratus
Just want motion controls on the newer versions tbh. Those computers are havoc to navigate without precise movements
little raven
I’ve heard 3 is amazing in vr
honest lynx
Honestly. Probably never going to get a remastered. Ever
But I'd enjoy an ultra nightmare mode in doom 3. That would be hella fun
scenic stratus
ono
and of course the save tab is not able to be used and if its based on bfg edition (sadly) no autosaves
honest lynx
It would be brutal but a real test. The final test.... literally need to no every jump door/trap other than that it would be pure skill. You thought the z sec shotgunners were scary now ..
little raven
I just wish the cyberdemon could be hurt with something that isn’t the soul cube
scenic stratus
doom 3 xbox
charred fox
doom 3 xbox
honest lynx
Doom 3 xbox
versed estuary
Doom 3 switch :D
little raven
Me without an xbox
Me with a switch
honest lynx
everyone living the George pootah life during quarantine
little raven
If I’m right that’s the guy in the locker at the beginning of roe
Please tell me I’m right
Am I the doom 3 remembering guy
honest lynx
No no you remember main campaign. When you have to put those toxic waste containers into the disposal?
Hes the lazy employee that's slacking in all the pda's
Hungover and shit all the time
little raven
Damn
little raven
Two types of people
Doom 3 is real doom 3 or
Doom 64 is the real doom 3
But the real doom 3 cannonaticly is plutonia
So tnt is doom 4
And doom 5 is doom 3
So doom 6 is doom 2016
Therefore doom eternal is doom 7
versed estuary
In order of doom games released yes,
But doom 3 doesn’t take place in the main timeline of doom
little raven
I thought doom 3 was before doom 1
versed estuary
No
gloomy dove
Doom guy is definitely a bottom
versed estuary
Slayer is confirmed the same Marine from doom 1/2
Doom 3 takes place on Mars 2145
But it’s not exactly the most technologically advanced base
Yet doom 2016 takes place on Mars. Also Project Lazarus Expedition to retrieve the slayer takes place 2145
little raven
Oh
versed estuary
And in 2016 they definitely have years upon years of more advanced technology
versed estuary
It’s 100% possible that the Doom Marine is a doom Guy from an alternate timeline/ universe tho
Because thanks to portals and the fact that Wolfenstein and doom is connected you get a massive web of
Here’s a bunch of string make me a sweater
charred fox
Lol
ornate ore
Ngl half life 2 graphics impressed me as well, well both are ahead of their decade
charred fox
Same here
honest lynx
2004 was an intense year for games... like so many insane games... but doom 3 was my thing..
scenic stratus
hell, half life 2's engine was used all the way up to 2012 correct?
tawdry sonnet
It's still being used in some places. Titanfall 2 is a notable recent release on Source.
scenic stratus
yeah, source engine is amazing
scenic stratus
i wish they'd fix hl2' freeze with autosaves tho
and hl1 music playback issues
music stops when you change area but the music starts for the encounter just after. They manually fixed some occurrences but with blue shift and opfor it still does it
little raven
I am at the level with the super shotgun it will soon be mine
honest lynx
The supershotgun is a blast. Never have to use the bird shot shotgun soon enough
small turret
Yo where’s my toilet
honest lynx
I thought you died in the hell expedition garlic
naive atlas
Is Doom 3 different from Doom 2 by its gameplay? Because every letsplay I see they just walk through empty rooms, carry things and sometimes kill 1-2 monsters
stiff slate
very
VERY
different
doom 2 is way faster paced while doom 3 goes for a more atmospheric, slower pace
yeah, you can probably speed through doom 3 if you wanted, but you'd get killed way easier, and theres a stamina bar
dark knot
love it when people try to shit on doom 3 then they see doom 4 and get second thoughts
coral solstice
as in Doom 4 1.0?
dark knot
yeah
candid orbit
Ok fine I won’t lie, this game might have made me jump a bit
honest lynx
Dont look into the bathroom window...
candid orbit
Oh god oh fuck
little raven
It didn’t work for me
versed estuary
It’s only the first bathroom i believe
honest lynx
Yeeeee
faint owl
JuMp sCarES aRe ChEaP
little raven
Oh it’s mine finally
The super shotgun
So what I’ve learned is that it does a shit ton of damage but reloads slow
It feels so good to use a shotgun that does damage in this game
honest lynx
No more demon rectal exams with the bird shot shotgun
scenic stratus
lol
glossy widget
Do you prefer the Trent Reznor sounds or retail ones?
scenic stratus
Reznor's sounds are so much better
scenic stratus
i do think this game would have benefited from being faster and having a soundtrack like quake 2.
still love the main theme and the final game though
craggy moat
I do not want a soundtrack like Quake 2.
and I think the game is paced perfectly. With a perfectly put in-game soundtrack.
scenic stratus
the game is awesome, i agree
im not proposing changing the current game, im just saying a different take could have been better. i love doom 3 though
craggy moat
Welp, I am allowed to disagree :)
little raven
Doom 3 has a lot of little problems
Doom 2 has huge problems but less of them
little raven
And roe fixes all of my problems with 3 it’s almost perfect
craggy moat
I don't personally like DOOM 3.
little raven
Try roe it’s truly amazing
little raven
It has more action it’s brighter its actually difficult there less imps behind doors and you get one of the best ssgs in the series
coral solstice
64's SSG is faster than 2's
little raven
Haven’t played 64 yet
little raven
The ssg is usually my favorite gun in any game it’s a shame when it sucks
scenic stratus
yes
little raven
It’s worse when a game doesn’t have one
Cough cough doom 3 cough cough
Another why roe is amazing
honest lynx
Ssg could use more spread with equal damage in doom 3. By this I mean I wish I was able to hit with hard force 3 to 4 enemies. I guess that would be op but that's how I like my ssg. I think currently max damage is 1 to 2 depending on the range
inland thunder
The regular shotgun is awful in Doom 3 as it is
scenic stratus
its about as reliable as the bank
honest lynx
Unless you're z sec
scenic stratus
z sec shotties are what the players shotty should be
honest lynx
They occasionally have an auto fire option apparently
tawdry sonnet
Doom 3 had some great tracks. That intro/credits theme especially.
versed estuary
Menu theme is great
Ok after playing Metro last light on switch,
I now see what y’all mean by doom 3 BFG being too bright
random pivot
Tracks plural? What other tracks are there? The menu theme I guess?
robust rover
Hah yes, Harbinger in 2016 or Doom 3 theme, great song
scenic stratus
Bob finally understands
versed estuary
Metro is by default a hella dark game,
But that’s to add to the horror, the darkness, the stealth, the hey light flashes give you and enemies away
After my Doom 3 nightmare run, I’mma do a veteran one but imma turn overall game brightness down, (I have it on default)
I kinda saw what doom 3 was intending, when you follow the huge moving blue light tanks with a demon inside, where game was hella dark and only imp fireballs and spawns were visible, that’s great
honest lynx
Ahhh yes. That nightmare run was an amazing time for me. Just remember theres a imp that auto jump attacks you right out the door of the mid way control room
scenic stratus
The newest metro or the 2 old ones?
robust rover
The First one
versed estuary
2033 ah a master piece
Still funny how the “good ending” is actually the wrong ending,
Because the “bad ending” is the Canon ending
versed estuary
You don’t get a choice if your SPOILER || morale points are too low || secret mechanic feature within metro. SPOILER
robust rover
Hmmm
Okay
I didn't see your spoiler
I love How a simple glock can be transformed into a One-handled Sniper
versed estuary
Oh yeah
I recommend a full auto mid range weapon, a pistol turned sniper, and a shotgun,
robust rover
I have a Silenced free VSV i think, A AK-47 with almost attachement and a Shotgun with silenced (useless)
But yeah, this game has a Doom 3 vibe
versed estuary
VSV man I miss that gun
robust rover
The Shotgun in Metro is the same in Doom 3 lmao
versed estuary
No?
robust rover
For the Damage, not spread
versed estuary
Well you can’t snipe with shotguns, not to mention you are using essentially scrap weapons
The highest difficulty is most realistic, take but deal more damage
robust rover
I'm on normal, i will play on Ranger probably
versed estuary
Ranger is the best immersion mode
Also with no crosshairs, just you, and the Metro
versed estuary
Few resources, low health, but enemies have low health too. No HUD, no button prompts, Greatness
robust rover
Okay
honest lynx
@versed estuary hows the nightmare run going
versed estuary
Haven’t gone too far, waiting fo finals to be over
scenic stratus
making progress marine?
charred fox
Marine, get your ass to the Communications Facility!!!!
scenic stratus
major plot spoilers
||Theory: Kelly was working with Betruger the whole time.
It seems kind of convenient how desperate he is to get you to communications and meet up with Bravo Team, does it not? I mean Bravo just happens to get ambushed and if the Doom Marine were there he would have been ambushed too. His tone while speaking to Specialist Wilson at the start of the game seems too arrogant, "don't worry we'll find ya." Notice how he says "we'll", this very well could mean Bravo Team or Security but the way he says the word implies something different. Back to the original points, Betruger wants to use the communications to get himself ships to Earth, Kelly is also extremely serious about the communications aswell, being enraged if the player decides to listen to Swann instead and not send the message. Of course his transformation into the Sabboath makes sense too, once Kelly isn't needed anymore they wouldn't want to keep him human.||
Feel free to criticize this.
charred fox
Shit man
||I was looking up kelly quotes and apperantly one of the sabaoth lines is “Your mission was always to die, marine” or something like that||
I’ll put spoiloips for anyone who cares
honest lynx
Betruger talks so much shit he literally becomes a demon tongue
versed estuary
This is true
robust rover
(metro Librarian part is horrible)
amber relic
samuel hayden's a dad though
scenic stratus
he never told any dad jokes so i dont believe it
golden kindle
quick, doom 3 vanilla with mods, or bfg?
scenic stratus
@honest lynx so, you have chosen death
honest lynx
Hahahah I had to do it bro
scenic stratus
What mods would you all recommend for playing vanilla? I’ve been thinking about another playthrough but haven’t touched the game in forever.
Any widescreen mods?
little raven
Sad doom 3 isn’t cannon
robust rover
Doom 3 is technically doom 1 sooo
honest lynx
Doom 3 forever should have been a 2060 or 50s prequel
scenic stratus
hey real quick, does the doom 3 source port fix the piece of crap shotgun?
coral solstice
Dhewm3?
no
scenic stratus
all I want is a better shotgun
coral solstice
it's really just a way to play the game in a higher resolution
scenic stratus
thats it
coral solstice
you'd need a separate mod to fix the shotgun
and the downside to Dhewm3 is that it doesn't run with a lot of mods
gentle mica
just bought doom 3 today, it's hard to see lol
I will say, I kinda like the horror theme of it though
scenic stratus
what did you buy it on
robust rover
Hard to see=probably Original i think
scenic stratus
g o o d
versed estuary
BFG best tho
random pivot
OG Doom 3 > BFG Edition
versed estuary
Nah BFG is definitely better
random pivot
Nope
marble dune
the only reason to play vanilla is for modding. otherwise you're handicapping yourself for the sake of "trveness"
versed estuary
That’s an even worse take than mine
scenic stratus
buuut the og version is superior in every way
random pivot
I think the lighting and colouring is better honestly
And I appreciate what the flashlight/weapon swap was trying to do gameplay wise
way more tense
honest lynx
Obviously bfg is the way doom 3 was meant to be
versed estuary
It’s true, BFG is way better. Ammo everywhere, much brighter, Flashlight whenever you want, it’s perfect
little raven
It gives you twice the ammo removing all challenge form an already easy game
versed estuary
Oh please you know how hard the game is using only plasma rifle? Super
scenic stratus
@honest lynx you live to make me suffer dont you?
fervent crest
BFG makes the game easier, not exactly better
it's too bright for a game supposed to be a survival horror game
and having flashlight whenever I want takes away away the tension
and the ammo everywhere means I don't have to mange my resources as much, making it overall pretty easy
BFG is still fun and I still enjoy it but OG will always feel how Doom 3 was meant to be to me
plus OG has much more modding support sooooooooo
random pivot
BFG is more approachable. I don't consider that "better". Some may and that's okay. But it's not "the way it was supposed to be"
versed estuary
@fervent crest yeah we all know
Everyone here is being sarcastic about how awesome BFG edition is
Probably the only upside of BFG is it’s on every platform now, so more people get to enjoy and have better access to doom 3
little raven
The upside to bfg edition is vr
versed estuary
That too, but that’s for a smaller audience
random pivot
Sorry, lost in internet text translation
little raven
Doom 3 seems made to be in vr
Odd coincidence that Carmack started working on the oculus
Around the same time
scenic stratus
doom 3 bfg could have been good if they altered level design and added more encounters
of course featuring an original mode for those who want it
little raven
Also they took out the nazis
robust rover
Shoot the rocket with the plasma rifle
scenic stratus
get up in their face and use shotgun
marble dune
FLAT's method is the smart option. Cheese's is the fun one.
honest lynx
If you just shoot the plasma just above the revs chest the missiles will blow up just when they launch. Getting up close is the next best option. Harder for a lock on
versed estuary
^
scenic stratus
mine works better though
little raven
No the best way is to hit him with the flashlight
versed estuary
But I can’t use flashlight ;-;
honest lynx
Bfg forever tape mod
scenic stratus
cringe
scenic stratus
Should i buy bfg edition for ps4 or pass?
little raven
Classic is better but it gets you a skin so I don’t know
scenic stratus
if you cant buy the original pc version at all, yes
versed estuary
As much shit as these guys give for buying the BFG
Tbh just playing doom 3 at all on any platform you have is an amazing experience
Of course OG Xbox of Pc version is the INTENDED way to play, but as long as you play the game in any form and understand how under appreciated it is, you get good points
honest lynx
Nightmare is the only way to play.
versed estuary
Chill
scenic stratus
I played doom 3, 10 years ago XD but i want to have some achievements so I guess i can try. However i cringe about stuff like no muzzle flash light effects how could they. But ye thats like the least of problems
versed estuary
Yeah I have BFG edition on switch, is an amazing game tbh
$10, campaign and both expansions
I would Argue Veteran is the perfect Difficulty to play on. Just hard enough, without the unnecessary health tick bomb
Nightmare is definitely a super fun challenge mode, but for a less challenge more challenging mode veteran all the way
honest lynx
Veteran is definitely the best way to play... but if you find it to slow for you or to easy.. nightmare will be the right fit. Give you that classic action
versed estuary
Nightmare definitely rewards a more push through play style for sure
Health is going down, no time to enjoy life gotta rush through
honest lynx
That's the mode I'd recommend for people who complain that doom 3 is to slow. But of you want to enjoy your doom 3 experience veteran all the way
versed estuary
Oh yeah for sure
I already played veteran with a push through attitude, so I can’t wait to finish nightmare (next week)
honest lynx
Nightmare made me love doom 3 even more. I think you'll feel the same
glass veldt
@versed estuary yeah the switch version is great
scenic stratus
question nobodys been asking, wheres turkey punchers 1 and 2
warm steppe
Great question
scenic stratus
cool technique to save stamina: hold sprint button for about a second and move in any direction, just keep doing this and your stamina bar tends to stay fuller
versed estuary
I never use sprint