doom-3

[keen finch]

Im gonna shit myself doom 3 is scary

Yall may called me scared but idc i no wanna play

[wanton surge]

Is oki
pat pat

[keen finch]

It wasnt very nice

[arctic pumice]

Yes it is 😭

[keen finch]

Im not playing it ever again

[icy saddle]

Yeah. My anxiety will go haywire from this game, can’t risk it lol. I do need to try to continue the game, though.

[outer hare]

I cant see SHIT!

but this game is awesome

i just started

[robust estuary]

Flashlight is your friend, that's what it's here for

[gusty hazel]

the scariness of doom 3 goes away hard when you realize just how much ammo the game dumps on you

also learning how to use the shotgun right

run up fast and point blank to delete enemies

especially during their spawn in animation

[scenic stratus]

@outer hare you could use the ducktape mod.

[whole pewter]

Dude, Doom 3 is awesome, just the beginning is boring

[tribal void]

Fr

[tribal void]

?

[whole pewter]

Nothing

Lol

[whole pewter]

I understood something else

I thought fr stood for freak, but you meant "for real" right?

sorry I don't understand English very well

[tribal void]

Yea meant for real

[tribal void]

All good mate

[lofty shuttle]

can someone give me an image of doom 3?

[quasi silo]

There's a lot on like every single store page it's at

[whole pewter]

What kind of image?

[lofty shuttle]

juts playing a level

thats what me wanna see

[scenic stratus]

Why not just watch gameplay of it?

[lofty shuttle]

dunnno

[whole pewter]

I can't right now

but when I can I will send it to you on your dm

[quasi silo]

What if Raven Software was to make a DOOM 3 sequel?

[scenic stratus]

I would pre-order it day one

[gusty hazel]

they did sort of

its called Quake 4

and sad to say Raven's basically COD map slaves at this point

[quasi silo]

I am asking for a DOOM 3 sequel, not a DOOM 3-style game

[gusty hazel]

well neither are happening given Raven is in the CoD mines for years now

[quasi silo]

Unfortunately correct, another one of my boys Treyarch is down there too so I have lost hope long since

[lofty shuttle]

what game engine was doom made in?

best game in the world doom

2

[quasi silo]

Which one

[lofty shuttle]

doom 3 and eternal

[quasi silo]

id Tech 4 and 7

[gusty hazel]

And 2016 was idtech 6

[acoustic acorn]

My understanding is that the original doom games, were just written in C straightup. While they were eventually called idtech1, doom1 and doom2 weren't really designed from or to be an engine initially.

[quasi silo]

Correct, but

Hexen is id Tech 1

And I'd call it TNC instead of Wolfenstein 2, Wolf2 is a popular name for Wolfenstein 2009

You also missed a few games, alongside the whole Wolf3D engine

[quasi silo]

Yes. I would also cut out the x.? ones because of how it's hard to tell when an engine is updated and when it isn't, it makes the list overly confusing

Yes but if you bother to list those out you'd also likely have to list the id Tech versions from stuff like Quake I Enhanced

They use the same engine as a basis, you can add a * to games that use a modified engine but other than that I'd keep it in one

Also you gave TNC a new entry engine but not Heretic? 🥴

[quasi silo]

Just for the sake of clarity I'd do this

Ah yeah I see now

They are still changes, changes that make enough of a difference to the average person. But I'm not knowledged in renderers so I won't really say anything more than that, because I have no idea what I am talking about lol

Well whatever the different engines are and how you consider them, my main concern for the list is clarity, which is why I suggested shortening it down in the first place

So I'd do it like you said, only add the game that kicked the engine off, maybe keep the x.? ones, that's up to you

Well since you're listing id renderers now instead of just replying to a question about DOOM's engines, I'd throw in Wolf3D 😛

Not really

The difference between the two is that nobody gives a shit about Catacombs, and Wolf3D is still just as beloved as DOOM

It was instrumental to the FPS genre as a whole, Catacombs was more of a tech demo with a very limited release, while Wolf3D was a full-blown start-to-finish game instead of just a showcase of what they can do

So I'd throw in Wolf3D

60 is still good imo

But I'm one of those people who is just used to 60fps and doesn't care for anything higher lol

My monitor is 60hz, I capped my framerate in every game at 60, I can survive 30, so high FPS to me is not a necessity at all

I have no idea what any of that means but good for you sir

Again I have zero clue what this means but good for you I think

GTX 1650

At least that's what Task Manager says

[wraith pumice]

these guys are the only enemy in Doom 3 that actually can be a threat, ngl

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/465235452148842518/1291667717082054766/Z-Sec_Shotgunner.png?ex=6700eecd&is=66ff9d4d&hm=30cdd5555f24e926a48f204805f0fbf2a35b6a32bf9bd16cb9b91838675a0fcc&

[scenic stratus]

@acoustic path New game gets a new id tech number. so dark ages is id tech 8 plus the enjine got updated with new tech.

[quasi silo]

It's a pattern but you can't know for sure if TDA is 7 or 8

[lofty shuttle]

so they have their own engine, ok

[scenic stratus]

Interesting

[young matrix]

TDA is idtech8 iirc

[scenic stratus]

@quasi silo yes it seems like a pattern but I was told by a id software QA employee, who happens to be my best friend Aaron. Plus the German studio that has ex crytek employees work on the engine.

Me too I love big open spaces/more demons etc

Probably new consoles only idk. PC first IMO. I'm sure it'll run really good on PC anyway.

I say. 4k 60. Will see when it releases.

[quasi silo]

Won't believe it til I see it

[scenic stratus]

@quasi silo OK you'll just have to wait til I'd tech 8 dark ages releases. Or new information and they say which engine #.

[tall wolf]

Are there source ports for doom 3 bfg edition ?

Or only for original doom 3 ?

[scenic stratus]

i think they is a dwehm3 for bfg. i just play dwehm3 for original.

[heavy sandal]

Best menu song

[calm crown]

How fun and interesting it is to go through the doom with ssg

They should have added it to the original, not just in ROE

[quasi silo]

Tbh no

Makes some enemies piss-easy which would not fit with what DOOM 3 was going for

[blissful gulch]

i may consider adding more to this list

[quasi silo]

Don't make it more unreadable

[blissful gulch]

wikipedia already has an entire list

so i dont really need to anyway

[quasi silo]

Good

[lofty trout]

I have doom 3 bfg apk if anyone wants it dmme

[quasi silo]

But why

DOOM 3 BFG on mobile sounds ass

[idle topaz]

Have you played Half Life 1 and 2 for Android?

[quasi silo]

I have not

I do actually have respect for myself so I don't intend on playing console/PC FPS games with touch controls

[idle topaz]

I played cs1.6, half life 1 and 2, doom 1, 2, 3, 64, return to castle wolfenstein on my cell phone

[quasi silo]

Well CS 1.6 is kinda a nothing game in this context but good for you

Personally I just know there's ways I find actually good ways to play out there

[idle topaz]

buy a controller to play on your cell phone

[quasi silo]

Fair enough but still not optimal

You can play how you want but personally FPS games on mobile sound shit

[formal lagoon]

I've always been curious about t this game

I've beaten every doom game but this one

[quasi silo]

Missing out

[formal lagoon]

It looks like half life it doesn't have the fast past gameplay of the other 5 games

But I would like to fully complete every doom game

[quasi silo]

You gotta beat this one on NM, so good luck

[tough dawn]

Half life controller binds on steam are rank, funny thing is, they did them perfectly for the PS2 version

Imagine being a poor little scoundrel street beggar who has an android and is forced to pirate games as a mobile version 🤮😭/jk

[quasi silo]

My binds for HL2 are a bit wild

[tough dawn]

What are they

[quasi silo]

I have them copied somewhere, let me look

[tough dawn]

He says while playing PlayStation games on his iPhone

NASCAR Rumble is fun

[quasi silo]

Primary attack - RT
Secondary attack - LT
Interact - RB
Flashlight - RS
Reload - X
Jump - A
Crouch - B
Sprint - LB
Zoom-in - LS
Gravity Gun - Y

[tough dawn]

Xbox 🤮

[quasi silo]

Xbox

[tough dawn]

PlayStation better

[quasi silo]

Both good

Better than Nintendo

[tough dawn]

Nah the Wii solos

[scenic stratus]

so true

[tough dawn]

https://tenor.com/view/lie-detector-gif-9388384639890532829

[scenic stratus]

I've played on Xbox more than any other console

[tough dawn]

Damn, get well soon

[scenic stratus]

The only other console I have (at the moment) is a Switch I sometimes forget exists

[scenic stratus]

What's wrong with Xbox?

[tough dawn]

Stinky

[scenic stratus]

It's a fine machine, served well

[tough dawn]

PlayStation better

[scenic stratus]

PlayStation's good

[tough dawn]

Yes

[scenic stratus]

I prefer Xbox though, I use it more often

[tough dawn]

Objectively wrong.

[scenic stratus]

I have a lot of nostalgia from my Xbox

More I can currently remember than playstation

[tough dawn]

Nostalgia blindness

[scenic stratus]

I will admit it's not a great console, but then again mine is quite old, 11 years

[tough dawn]

I don’t need nostalgia to know that I like PlayStation better

[scenic stratus]

it still runs games well

Cyberpunk doesn't even run too bad

[tough dawn]

what

[scenic stratus]

What

Cyberpunk doesn't run too bad on Xbox

[tough dawn]

An 11 year old Xbox?

[scenic stratus]

Yes

It takes a bit to load but that's to be expected

Not too long though, compared to some other games I've played on Xbox

The one thing I will admit is cool is PSVR

[tough dawn]

It is cool, as long as you have games for it that utilize the move controllers (something that is uncommon)

But that’s not the console’s fault, it’s the developers

[scenic stratus]

I haven't used a PSVR in a few years cause my stepdad sold it and the PS4 for a PS5 that basically only he uses

I don't even know it he uses it at all, actually...

[tough dawn]

Minecraft, for example, doesn’t use the move controllers EVEN THOUGH IT WOULD BE REALLY COOL, MOJANG

[scenic stratus]

Lmao true

[tough dawn]

But Skyrim VR does

[scenic stratus]

Never played Skyrim

Not a big fan of Bethesda rpgs, to be completely honest

[tough dawn]

VR archery is soooo fun

Like /genuine

It’s good

[idle topaz]

Me

[latent owl]

I wanted to see if this happened to anybody else or just me

But basically I never had played Doom 3 before, I started last month after getting the platinum for Eternal

PS4 version

And boy did this game give me the worst motion sickness I ever had in a videogame, and I never have those

The graphics and art direction are very nice for a remastered 2004 game

But in any FOV, it just makes my head hurt

Not sure if it's a combo of the game's graphics + too much dark levels + 60 fps + first person view

But yeah, I stopped playing the game afterwards and the nausea went away

[frigid stream]

Anyone ever wish they made the original doom 4?

[vale wharf]

I'd love to play that

[quasi silo]

RAGE is close enough

[blissful gulch]

iirc the wii u version of minecraft had some level of motion control

[tough dawn]

I am talking about PSVR

[blissful gulch]

haven't used anything playstation in quite a while

[quick lily]

Where are your screenshots put in doom 3?

[scenic stratus]

@remote sail Either use the built in editor or others like trenchbroom.

[maiden obsidian]

Doom 3 really was not my favorite. i liked the horror naspects, but it wasn't the best.,..

[rare phoenix]

did have the best plasma rifle out of the series though imo

doom 3's arsenal is pretty great tbh

[maiden obsidian]

ykw, i completlt agree, if only the game quality could be updated, then it could be even better

[scenic stratus]

this is like going to an old museum, seeing a car from the 1910s and thinking "this car could use some suspension upgrades"

d3 is perfect alr

Fr

[quick lily]

I just spent 10 minutes walking around in circles trying to figure out how to kill that first hell bossfight

Right as I killed it, it says achievements have been disabled

Gotta do all that again

Nvm I lost the autosave

Meaning I literally can't go back

Why does this even happen

I didn't open the console at all

[quasi silo]

BFG hates it when you take screenshots

[quick lily]

Last screenshot I took was 10 minutes before that

And also my ss keybind is \ and not f12

[acoustic acorn]

every doom game is 3d

[icy saddle]

^

[cold trout]

Facts B)

[icy saddle]

not a single Doom game is 2D, all of them are 3D by definition

[scenic stratus]

Owned

[acoustic acorn]

objects have a horizontal, vertical and "depth" coordinate x,y,z. Objects have widths, heights, and lengths. Map geometry has all 3 spatial coordinates as well. Sure, you can't be directly on top of or below a monster but so what? It's still 3d

[rose sentinel]

DOOM 3 is not doom sure all doom games have horror elements but there not actual horror games unlike DOOM 3

[quasi silo]

By that logic, DOOM Eternal is not a DOOM game

Sure all DOOM games have action elements but they were only full embraced in 2016 and Eternal

[quick lily]

"Doom 1 & 2 are not doom because they don't have nonstop action"

"Doom 64 is not doom because it doesn't have real music"

If it had doom in its name, doom is the game.

[acoustic acorn]

Names are not descriptions

[quasi silo]

Would you expect a game called "The Greatest Platformer Ever Made" to be an FPS game

[rare phoenix]

You must not have actually played Doom 3

[latent owl]

Not sure what this is about but I sure loved the platforming in Eternal. Not the platforming at Urdak though, fuck that

[quasi silo]

It is not about that, I liked it too though

[proper wagon]

hey uhh i need help with something

[quasi silo]

Say what it is

[maiden obsidian]

ok good to know i cant have an opinion here...

[scenic stratus]

you can and thats my opinion too

[maiden obsidian]

aight. my bad.

i prefer the newer dooms myslef, so im kind of a stickler😅

[acoustic acorn]

As a game that went in on a semirealistic art style and theoretically more realistic lighting, I could definitely see this game benefit from a) graphical overhaul and b) actually implementing the lean mechanic they wanted

[stiff hinge]

https://tenor.com/view/breaking-bad-walter-white-falling-flying-kiss-heisenberg-gif-25238256

[tidal snow]

I played doom 3 again. I’m in the hell section. The reloading is a huge turn off tbh

[scenic stratus]

I love the DOOM 3 Main Menu theme

I listen to it fully every time I boot up the game

Outside of the game too, I'll listen to it

[shell pine]

real

I love doom 3 in general, still have the limited collectors edition for xbox classic X3

[scenic stratus]

That's cool

I also love DOOM 3 in general, it's a good game

[shell pine]

real

https://tenor.com/view/doom-doom3-gif-7468325347943850559

silly little goober :3

[tidal snow]

https://tenor.com/view/dr-betruger-betruger-doom3-gif-27070542

me for some reason to a random ass window

[shell pine]

https://tenor.com/view/here-have-this-doom-3-trailer-e3-grenade-gif-2017822753097025467

[tidal snow]

I cast fireball!” ahh gif

[wraith pumice]

would you guys say the og xbox port of Doom 3 looks good?

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/701796221702111286/1296440003479736330/image.png?ex=67124b57&is=6710f9d7&hm=46d99b2ed08312ce6f79b0b06eb21b2e971b57c3665f2a7379108db9b136ec6b&

[shell pine]

real

[shell pine]

yea, i play it sometimes, its fun and looks ok

[vernal crest]

yup

[pine needle]

чиназес

[north frost]

How are the calcedemons in doom 3 created? What are they?

[tough dawn]

Do you know English?

[pine needle]

yeah

[frigid brook]

Recently bought an OG Xbox version Doom 3 on a disk, now if only I had an actual console to play it on--
I've also managed to play a bit of it on PC using an emulator, but there are a lot of issues, especially with sound sources not having any falloff (they just keep playing at full volume until you get out of the speaker's range then the sound from it suddenly stops), really breaks the immersion. Visually, it's pretty bearable!

[vale wharf]

"when two cacodemons love each other"

[north frost]

Oh ok, so just demonically possessed animals. That makes sense.

[tidal snow]

Who else plays mick gordon’s music when playing doom 3?

Who said the demons were the scary part?

[eager mauve]

What is the Doom 3 equivalent of the Gamemap command to start the server with a new map from Quake II? I've tried Spawnserver, but it seems to only be for Multiplayer.

[shell pine]

I still love this game

[eager mauve]

The unidentified area between Primary Excavation and Hellhole makes me dream of a Quake remake. Is there any conversion of Quake 1 maps to Doom 3, with monsters and textures, etc? Other than Shambler's Castle, which seems too converted to me.

[vale wharf]

si_map and then ServerMapRestart to change map

[eager mauve]

Aren't they both for Multiplayer? What I want is for Single player.

[quasi silo]

Try "map [map]"

[outer hare]

Hey yall I’m playing doom 3 enhanced edition should I play lost mission first or roe

After base campaign ofc

[quasi silo]

I'd recommend going by release, so RoE

[outer hare]

Gotta say, absolute gem of a game so far

knew I’d like it since I love dead space and half life

[heady wadi]

It’s not legendary but it’s still a great game

[outer hare]

What’s with the hate on the shotgun?

It’s not bad tbh

[heady wadi]

I love shotguns

[shell pine]

I think people hate it Cuz of the spread and stuff idk

Gonna start replying Doom 3 on my Xbox again tommorow

[vale wharf]

they were expecting it to work like classic shotgun ig, but it didn't

[icy saddle]

Thing is that the classic shotgun has no vertical spread

[vale wharf]

not all people dislike it tho, mostly people who played original doom games
most people who don't religiously play doom find it okay

[icy saddle]

Only the SSG has vertical spread

[outer hare]

I just got the plasma rifle HOLY

ITS EPIC

[scenic stratus]

it does have vertical auto aim though right

or is it an adaptation by other ports

[icy saddle]

vertical auto aim is a vanilla thing, yes

but that isn't spread

[scenic stratus]

ah ok i was kinda confused about that for a while

[sick sapphire]

as someone who just completef doom 3 for the first time, i think it's very funny how despite doom 16 shifted doom back to faster-paced boomshoot combat it takes so much in its tone, environment n lore from doom 3

[rare phoenix]

It’s kinda wonky and it’s pretty ugly visually. Out of Doom shotguns it’s just kinda falls flat in a lot of areas

The rest of Doom 3’s arsenal is great though

LOVE the plasma rifle

The assault rifles a nice addition and I like the rocket launcher reload animation

[misty abyss]

Because it's an awful shotgun which is unusable at any distance other than being right in their face, and even then you're not guaranteed to one shot something

[outer hare]

Idk personally i got used to it quickly

it felt weird to use at first but i found it super helpful for killing the soldiers by baiting them around corners

they hit super hard

[tough dawn]

Isn’t most of doom 3 claustrophobic corridors where you’re really close to the demons

[rare phoenix]

Doom 3's pretty forgiving with hitboxes though it seems

[acoustic acorn]

I find that it depends on the monster. Imps are super gangly

[lost salmon]

im wondering what made Doom 3 different from doom 2

[icy saddle]

• Engine
• Story
• Gameplay
• Design
• The shotgun being about as useful as the chainsaw on Nightmare in Doom 2

[quasi silo]

They are completely different lol

[livid wharf]

Trying out the Weapons of Mars Destruction mod, and it’s a significant improvement so far. In particular I like that it makes the shotgun a short range weapon instead of a melee weapon. Also the sound is more impactful

[livid wharf]

It occurred to me today that Doom 3’s early levels wouldn’t feel half as empty if the basic zombie could do a bit more. I’m not sure how much of a boost would be needed to make them feel relevant, but they would need to be at least a little faster and have enough of an attack to at least be harder to punch/bashlight to death

[acoustic acorn]

Maybe the thought process was "they are balanced around jumping you from the shadows"? Maybe it'd be better if they were faster. They already do a huge chunk of damage but are too slow to capitalize on it

[livid wharf]

Yup. Too slow of movement and their attack is also too slow

Maybe have their move speed be close to Doomguy’s base movement and they try to attack almost as soon as you’re in range (the animation itself isn’t all that slow, but there’s a significant delay before they try to hit you)

[acoustic acorn]

Something in that direction cuz at this point even punching zombis feels like a waste of time

[livid wharf]

It’s hard for me to get bored of punching demons, but yeah it’s not great

[tidal snow]

bro there’s this weird ass glitch in ressurection of evil where the monorail noclips through the gate and you get stuck (this is after beating the second hunter) It made me start the game over, so pissed💀

[livid wharf]

Can you reload an earlier autosave to fix it?

[acoustic acorn]

sometimes if scripted scenes have wonky physics, locking the framerate can help. This works in a couple games, Evil within is an example

[idle topaz]

Can anyone play Doom 3 on Android multiplayer without crashing?

[sinful ermine]

Does Anyone here Do Doom 3 mapping?

[ionic mural]

Hey I was thinking instead of looking at some videos and stuff I'd ask here, what's doom 3 like

Compared to 2016 and eternal

[sinful ermine]

Doom 3 is more on the Horror side

[acoustic acorn]

it's a completely different game. More focused on a horror theme, tight corridor shooting

[ionic mural]

Like a claustrophobic horror shooter?

[sinful ermine]

ye

[ionic mural]

Interesting

[acoustic acorn]

It is in some ways a tech demo for the lighting system.

[ionic mural]

The lighting system?

[icy saddle]

Doom 3 has real time lighting iirc

[ionic mural]

Imma pretend like I understand the significance of that

Do the later games have that?

Is that like a big thing

[acoustic acorn]

check out the E3 teasers when you get a chance. It's the light that they showcased. Real time lighting refers to there being light sources placed by the map maker that then calculate how the light will travel in the game world using the engine. Doom1/2 uses sector lighting. This is where every bit of geometry has a designated light level. Light sources don't exist. Light doesn't "travel" or "shine" but is instead a parameter for a piece of land. Doom3's tech is impressive for its time and a major precursor for more modern raytracing. Personally, I like the freedom that classic's sector lighting gives to the designer. Why restrict yourself to realistic lighting?

[livid wharf]

Both have strengths and weaknesses. I’m currently working on my Doom 3 playthrough with the Weapons of Mars Destruction mod, but after that I’m planning to play the Phobos campaign mod and see what their mix of action and horror looks like

The main advantage of realistic lighting is that it makes selling a space as somewhere that could reasonably exist a lot easier, though using Doom to showcase that is an interesting choice to say the least

[acoustic acorn]

They both have a place

[livid wharf]

What’s the intended method for the shield bois? I tried a few things but the only solution I got to work was rushing in with a chainsaw and accepting that I was going to take a bunch of damage

[vale wharf]

i tend to blow them up with nades

[livid wharf]

So I just tried grenades and got that to work with some difficulty (I find them so hard to aim)

[vale wharf]

shotgun is not bad for how claustrophobic majority of levels can get, think that was ther intention

[livid wharf]

I don’t really like the Doom 3 shotgun, but I’m currently playing with the “Weapons of Mars Destruction” mod that tightens the spread a little bit (I didn’t really understand the specifics but something about giving it the properties of the Quake 4 shotty). It’s still a very close range weapon but is more consistent so you don’t have to get into melee range to reliably oneshot foes, just almost melee range

[icy saddle]

I mainly shoved that in there to make fun of Doom 3 a bit. For how little of Doom 3 I’ve played the shotgun wasn’t that bad

[earnest matrix]

Hello. I have been playing classic Doom 3 through Good Old Games. The version it seems to be installing is 1.3.1.1304. I just discovered that there is a security vulnerability in Doom 3 engine/Punkbuster combination software. Does anybody know about this?

[shrewd lance]

i love doom 3 because you can reload in the game unlike the other games

[earnest matrix]

What games won't let you reload....what version of Doom 3 are you playing?

[acoustic acorn]

He's saying that he can reload

[earnest matrix]

I never played the earlier Doom games, well, maybe tried them but never really played them so I wouldn't know about that.

[acoustic acorn]

Classic doom doesn't really have reloading as a mechanic

[earnest matrix]

The introduction of reloading concept along with the animations is a good thing. It adds to the realism and sense of urgency in the game when you are under fire especially.

Most FPS have this today and for the past 15+ years I would guess.

[livid wharf]

I’m fine with or without reloading. It can be a little annoying when you have a bunch of different weapons that all use reloading but as you said it can also add tension (and can be a way to gently discourage overreliance on one weapon).
I started playing through the Phobos mod today. It combines Doom 3’s core mechanics and monsters with a bigger emphasis on action and reworks the weapons, all for a new campaign going on parallel to the main game. The biggest improvement is to the shotgun, which still has the normal clip, reloading, etc but now is effective even if the target isn’t within 5 feet, instead having an effective range of maybe 20 feet. All of the weapons are buffed though, but Phobos is still not an easy mod as enemies are way more numerous (the first level for example has an arena with 2 floors and something like 15 demons running around including every enemy type used in the first level)

[obsidian harness]

I've been doing an out of order Doom marathon for the past couple of months,

And I've just finished doom 3 and I'm quite a way into Resurrection of evil

And my god. This game is so GUD

[viral briar]

You should check out the Lost Missions from BFG Edition converted for the 2004 release.

[obsidian harness]

I don't think it's compatible with the golden Edition mod tho...

I want the usable shotgun maaan

[livid wharf]

Lost Mission works with Weapons of Mars Destruction though, which also improves the shotgun (albeit not as greatly as many mods)

[obsidian harness]

My playthrough Of Doom 3 and RoE has been with the golden Edition, It just rebalances the weapons And touches up the audio and lighting

I also have a classic Doom demon reskin pack as I'm not a huge fan of how them enemies look, But even that pack isn't perfect

For some reason some of The zombies and betruger's hell guards are Wolfenstein styled

I was playing then all the sudden I noticed the chainsaw zombies just have a big fat swastika on their belly

And one of the zombie Marine models are broken

[vale wharf]

use enhanced mod with shotgun addon

[obsidian harness]

Im not sure if anyone here is fanilar with doom 3 modding, but I posted a question in the classic mods channel about A Problem

[earnest matrix]

I'm playing through the Classic Doom 3 with no mods right now and I can see that they put a lot of care and thought into the single player campaign. I'll check out some mods once I've completed the vanilla play through.

[shrewd lance]

Doom 3 is a good spin-off because it's has some new horror theme in it

I have the gamepass ultimate and I have all doom 3 games with gamepass ultimate

[quasi silo]

It is not a spin-off

[shrewd lance]

I'm saying that doom 3 has new horror elements in it

[earnest matrix]

I honestly can't see myself going back to play the older titles beyond the release of DooM 3 and that's even going far back enough but the thing is the graphics at the time of DooM 3's release we're generational leaps and bounds above anything released before that. I think. But that's because id software was releasing Quake games in between also, iirc.

[earnest matrix]

How many DooM 3 games are there: are you talking about the expansions as games also? I know there is the original DooM 3 release, the expansion for it and then the BFG release. But that's the only 3 flavors I know of, for PC/XBox anyways.

[vale wharf]

theres doom resurrection for ios and doom 2 rpg i guess

and doom 3 vr edition

[quasi silo]

And DOOM 3: Bethesda.net Edition

You can also count DOOM 3 Xbox as its own thing

[wraith pumice]

does the Bethesda.net version of Doom 3 have any differences from the og BFG Edition aside from lacking multiplayer and og Doom?

[quasi silo]

It says it has a smexier flashlight but I didn't notice any differences

Only real difference outside of that is the Slayers Club functionality

I absolutely love how the "NEWS!" page has had no news since release

[shell pine]

It really IS an incredible Port, it has also been developed along Side Doom 3 for the PC i think. They had to Split some Sections with loading Screens and stuff, and some Textures are Just completely black sometimes, which you wont really noticed that easily, Cuz the Games Atmosphere IS Dark in general. I still think its a great Port and also possibly one of my favorite Xbox Classic Games of all time!

I feel so smart rn ngl XD

[obsidian harness]

I just Finished RoE!

It was preaty fucking neato!

[obsidian harness]

I really really enjoyed it

[shell pine]

Nicee

[shell pine]

Havent played it yet, I Just Hope its available ON Xbox Classic, since I have the Base Game for it, so it would be nice Just to also have it there and Play IT ya know

[obsidian harness]

yes it dose have a xbox og port

[wraith pumice]

man I like the og xbox a lot
so many great games made for it, and ports of a lot of pc games on it are really cool too with differences and additions

[obsidian harness]

I grew up on GTA vice city for Xbox, great port

So, I'm thinking of making a D3 mod!

I'm thinking of making a add-on to the golden Edition mod called Golden Edition plus

My idea is to port over some of the BFG Edition textures, and give some variety to the audio and Demon Designs with a balanceed Mix of the Classic Style, Doom 3 style and Modern Doom Styles

Like Cacos look like actual cacodemons, Imps will be brown and have red eyes ect

[shell pine]

I know i Just looked it Up, still thanks!

[shell pine]

It IS a great console, with still some great games

[scenic stratus]

Anyone down for DOOM 3 multiplayer?

[shrewd lance]

Witch multiplayer Xbox 360,PC ect

[scenic stratus]

Oh I didn't expect someone to respond

I was saying that cause I thought it was dead, I apologize :(

[shrewd lance]

https://tenor.com/view/cat-thumbs-up-cat-thumbs-up-meme-stock-image-gif-27117830

Is fine

[shell pine]

I think Doom 3 Multiplayer still does Work, Theres a Fanmade Xbox live Like Service for the Xbox classic

[earnest matrix]

I'm guessing you end users can set up and run their own servers also without having to go through any central hubs.

[obsidian harness]

what do ya'll think of my mod idea?

[acoustic acorn]

It makes sense. D3 is in many ways a truer representation of Tom Hall's idea of what classic doom would be. btw if you like PDAs, play Arkham City

[obsidian harness]

I like arkam city haha

[livid wharf]

I think the Phobos mod is kinda what I wish Doom 3 had been, and it’s very much the general direction I wish the modern games had gone. The action is fast and crowd control is important but the horror angle isn’t gone outright, ammo management isn’t hard but if you overrely on just 1 or 2 weapons you’ll run into problems, arena combat and incidental combat are both regular features, and exploration meaningfully exists

[obsidian harness]

I Need to check out phobos

I actualy was using the shotgun model from phobo for my playthrough of d3 untill I swaped it for the alpha model

Ya girl HATES The Vanilla retal model

its so chunky

although it dose actualy resemble the alpha classic doom shotgun sprites

[granite gale]

Is there a good mod for the shotgun ?

[shrewd lance]

Well I don't know good mods for the shotgun but doom3 roe has a super shotgun

[livid wharf]

The Steam guides page actually has a tutorial on how to edit the files yourself, but for a premade mod Weapons of Mars Destruction tweaks all the weapons

[amber berry]

batman arkham city?

[scenic stratus]

yes

[amber berry]

epik

[thin wave]

So are the doomslayer and the doom3 protagonist the same person from different universes, or different people from the same universe

[acoustic acorn]

Doom3guy is just a guy and isn't the doom2 doomguy. idk if modern doom's doomslayer is related to doom2's doomguy

[obsidian harness]

I totally personally think that Doom 3 is a part of the modern timeline

Mars City and its surrounding complexes are on a different side of Mars from the Argent facilities and basically just becomes abandoned And uninhabitable by the events of 2016

Rusting away

And In Resorection of Evil ||You end up Shutting down all the power, including Life support to open a portal to hell|| So I think that Connects to the events of 2016

[quick lily]

Imagine doom 3 if bergtruger was not evil

We would just be a normal marine

[livid wharf]

He wasn’t evil at first. He went on an expedition into hell and was mentally altered by the experience. Also the whole demon attack would’ve probably still happened as it was caused by exposure to Hell energy

[stoic stone]

Doom 3 was a retelling of classic doom and doom 2 came after. All the doomguys are the same guy. He was just less experienced at the time I guess.

[quasi silo]

He isn't necessarily the Doomguy because it's a retelling. The original hero was not meant to be a character, he was YOU

If you wanna say that it's a 1:1 retelling, then they did not change him, because he was not a character, they made him one

[stoic stone]

Oh Oker

[livid wharf]

I think the whole timeline thing is weird and silly tbh. Outside of direct sequels (meaning Doom 2, Eternal, and I guess Doom 64?) I treat each game as unrelated to the others

[quasi silo]

How is it weird?

[vale wharf]

2016 feels like a sequel to 3, same esthetic, and u play as the hero from that sacrophagus at the end of 3

[livid wharf]

Doom has never really been about the story for one. The story is a justification rather than the focus.
Also I never really understood how people fixate over fictional timelines and treat them as history and try to “figure out” how a thing works from taking everything from the story literally instead of treating as, well, a story, meaning not everything has to be literal and Doom 1, 3, and 2016 being 3 tellings of the same story makes at least as much sense as them being parallel universes or different people in the same timeline millions of years removed or whatever

Like you could read Doom 3 as being a telling shortly after the Hell on Earth incident where most of the specifics are clear and things are kinda grounded, the classic games are a telling from later when most of the details are forgotten, and the newer games are those stories becoming more and more embellished until it’s basically a new myth altogether

[quasi silo]

You don't have to understand it, I don't care about the story either, but I wouldn't call it 'weird'

For a lot of people figuring out the tid-bits is a fun activity, even maybe a hobby for some

[livid wharf]

Yeah I guess

[rain flame]

does anyone still play BFG edition multiplayer ? I can't find any matches. I just bought the game 2 days ago

[quasi silo]

What platform

[rain flame]

PC

[quasi silo]

Ah yeah that's dead there then

[rain flame]

Why is it like that though ? Most classic games have functioning multiplayers on consoles but they're dead on PC

[quasi silo]

Most games are dead on console and alive on PC lol

This game is just dead because barely anyone plays it nowadays

The console versions for this game are dead too, but on Xbox you can host a match on TrueAchievements at least

[livid wharf]

AFAIK Doom 3’s multiplayer is similar enough to Quake’s that you can probably get a similar experience in one of the Quake games and they have significantly more activity

[quasi silo]

Kind of, but the novelty of it being DOOM 3 makes it interesting enough

[rain flame]

What's TrueAchievements ? it sounds like some console command lol

[quasi silo]

Website for Xbox achievement hunters to share achievements, read guides or make them, see their progress, chat, set up matches, and just generally have fun

[rain flame]

Oh, sounds good, too bad we don't have anything like that on PC, atleast it seems so

[quasi silo]

There's a TrueSteamAchievements but nobody uses it

There's probably DOOM 3 discords you can join to join matches

[rain flame]

that's what I was searching for when I just joined this server a few minutes ago

[quasi silo]

Yeah but this server won't provide that

This channel is almost always used as basicaly the central for "doom 3 isn't a doom game" "well actually..." so nobody is LFGing here

I recommend looking for a dedicated server

[rain flame]

Yeah, that's the case in almost every discussion about doom 3

[quasi silo]

(It's a DOOM game btw)

[rain flame]

Yeah, sure it is...

From what I have seen and played till now, older doom games can also be as scary as doom 3 if we replace the music or remove it (like doom 3) and reduce the player speed.

[quasi silo]

The big thing that sets them apart is age

[rain flame]

yeah, the jump from 2 to 3 is insane

[quasi silo]

DOOM 3 is a lot fresher than Classic DOOM, and believe it or not, but DOOM I often went for horror, and it was probably way scarier at the time, we just don't notice it now because the game doesn't seem all that realistic and immersive anymore

DOOM 3 is crisper in every way when it comes to that, including immersion, so it's scarier by modern standards

[rain flame]

True

People see newer ones like 2016 and Eternal and mistake them as the definition of doom

[livid wharf]

I like the older games better overall, but they definitely can’t compete in terms of atmosphere

[quasi silo]

So many people say that DOOM 3 isn't a DOOM game because horror waa, but with that logic, then 2016 and Eternal aren't a DOOM game either

DOOM I was a mix of action and horror, and horror was embraced more (DOOM 3) before the action was (DOOM 2016), so by technicality, the series revolves around horror, boom, 2016 and Eternal are not DOOM

[rain flame]

that might just depend on preference. Personally I find every doom game's atmosphere really good

[quasi silo]

I really find it funny how often DOOM 3 being the black sheep because of horror is brought up, like if id Software has ever made a consistent game series

[livid wharf]

I don’t think any Doom game has bad atmosphere but the first 2 are working with pretty limited tools and very abstract environments

[rain flame]

what most people fail to realise is that doom 1 and 2 were also kind of scary in their times. So that becomes the main reason for them to believe 3 is the exception. Although, 3 is kinda an exception if we take the fact that it is the most story focused doom game

[quasi silo]

DOOM 3 does a lot of things different

A lot of people go "reloading in MY DOOM game???" but then...

But then they praise the SSG

The entire gameplay balance regarding the SSG is the reloading animation lol

[rain flame]

yeah, I hope id makes more doom games as different as 3

[quasi silo]

I want MachineGames to tackle a DOOM 3 remake or sequel

[rain flame]

I would prefer a sequel, because honestly I don't think it needs a remake. It still looks pretty good and is quite polished. The problem is they didn't improve much in the remaster opporunity they got with the BFG edition

and most people think it's a downgrade

[livid wharf]

Btw I finished the Phobo mod’s first episode recently and it’s excellent (albeit very hard). It has way more of the chaotic combat with multiple enemy types running around that I wanted more of in Doom 3, and it makes every gun feel better to use (the shotgun is definitely most improved though)

[rain flame]

and they're partially right

[quasi silo]

Oh they absolutely improved a lot of things, I personally think that the "bad" changes are subjective, I just wish for a toggle for them, or a DOOM 3 2004 console port

If not a remake then remaster it then, but don't just slap barely anything on it like Nightdive, do with it like what they did with Crash Bandicoot

[livid wharf]

The main negative change was fewer enemies spawned into levels (Doom 3 already is a bit low on demon count lol)

[rain flame]

the shotgun was the most flawed weapon in the game, so I am not surprised

[quasi silo]

I will forever defend the shotgun

[rain flame]

yeah, the flashlight one is definitely subjective, although they do have a fair point about the BFG edition giving away too much ammo

I never fell short of it

[quasi silo]

They should make that a difficulty toggle

[rain flame]

I mean the spread is a little bit too much. We really have to be on point blank to really do some damage

[quasi silo]

Which you are able to do freely throughout the whole campaign

[rain flame]

yeah it should depend on difficulty. I am playing on marine, which is probably like normal difficulty, but the ammo still felt way too much, even if I was playing on recruit it would feel too much

[livid wharf]

I would definitely be interested in a Doom 3 sequel. You could have a Hell of Earth scenario with a bit more of a balance between horror and action with the increase in scale. Also seeing more mundane locations as levels would be really neat

[quasi silo]

I'd really like if they showed us what the TLM marine is up to

[outer hare]

the shotgun is def not bad imo im mid game and i think its the gun im using the most by far, i find it really useful for cacodemons and for killing enemies after i bait em around corners

[quasi silo]

Not that, I think they should just add a toggle alongside the difficulties, like this:
Recruit
Marine
Veteran
Nightmare
BFG Edition Ammo: ✅/❌

[livid wharf]

The shotgun isn’t useless, but it’s definitely frustrating to use

[outer hare]

i can see why they gave it a lot of spread cuz most of the encounters are in smallish corridors

[rain flame]

the one weapon I see being used the least is probably the chain gun. People either just used the automatic one or the plasma gun

[livid wharf]

IIRC the spread was increased a bunch late in development due to it being really broken before that

[rain flame]

and tbf the chain gun is quite slow

[outer hare]

the chaingun is goated but theres not too much ammo for it

[quasi silo]

I use it a lot on the Commandos, but grenades are good on them

[outer hare]

im always finding a lot of more machine gun ammo and plasma ammo

[livid wharf]

The chaingun is great for tanky targets. The SMG is more versatile due to not requiring a revving up, having better accuracy, and ammo being way more common for it

[outer hare]

has anyone else here played d3 enhanced edition

w/ the ammo rebalance addon

[livid wharf]

I played partway through the game with Weapons of Mars Destruction

[outer hare]

i played up until alpha labs 4 with just d3 ee but then decided i wanted to try out the ammo rebalance addon

so i restarted and i think it makes the game a lot better

[rain flame]

I am currently at that part in my playthrough lol

Where we get the option to either extend the bridge or activate the system

[livid wharf]

Currently playing with Phobos (alternate campaign that has bigger fights, more reliable weapons all around, more aggressive demons, and level design reminiscent of the better Doom 2 mods), and I’m having a blast with it

[outer hare]

i think i activated the system

idrm

[rain flame]

I extended the bridge first thinking we can do both, but later realised it was an option

[outer hare]

i think whatever srg kelly said was dangerous

[rain flame]

that room where we hear that 'they took my baby' and we hear that baby laugh was till now the scariest moment in that game

[outer hare]

brother for me that was the first pinky encounter

i was scared shitless and i didnt think i could even kill it so i just ran for my life

then when i run into another pinky i realize ok i have to kill this thing

[rain flame]

Yeah those things were real menacing. The way they charged at you was insane

They were the only enemy type I use the chaingun on...

there was also this place where we activate a ladder and suddenly the place is full of trites, that was nuts

[vale wharf]

The original non bfg edition still has servers at least

Rarely active though

[quasi silo]

So does the BFG Edition

[sand sierra]

do i really have to play both doom 1 and doom 2 to 100% the game or there is a workaround or something like that?

[scenic stratus]

are you on pc

[sand sierra]

i ve finished all classic doom recently with the new doom+doom2 collection and it would be boring to replay both games

[sand sierra]

yes

[scenic stratus]

play the original version its better

if you still want to go for bfg not sure if classic dooms count for progress

[sand sierra]

im talking about the achivement, i should ve specified

[scenic stratus]

ah if theres an achievement yea you should play the classics in bfg

all 3 games in bfg are inferior versions just go og

[quasi silo]

You want them to play DOS over BFG?

[scenic stratus]

i meant d3 only lol

it would probably be a better choice with classic too tho

[quasi silo]

You insulted 360 DOOM in front of its biggest fan

Death penalty.

[scenic stratus]

is 360 doom the same as the ones in bfg?

[quasi silo]

BFG is a fork of 360 DOOM yeah

[scenic stratus]

o

its ok to like bad stuff

i do that myself often

[quasi silo]

It's inferior in many ways, no multiplayer, no fancy new UI, and less achievements

[quasi silo]

Half of my favorite media is considered bad

[scenic stratus]

like to me st anger is the best metallica album

[quasi silo]

Never listened to Metallica outside of their South Park movie song

[scenic stratus]

and yea we are d3 fans

[quasi silo]

I see more and more people that like D3 lately

[scenic stratus]

yea its underrated af

for 8 years new doom has been emphasizing the action aspect

[quasi silo]

You know how the Q2 remaster has an id Vault with playable prototype levels?

[scenic stratus]

ooo i didnt know that

i bought this but didnt mess around a lot with it

[quasi silo]

They should do something like that for 2016 (which is as old as DOOM 3 was when BFG came out) and give us a way to play DOOM 4 1.0

[scenic stratus]

fr

[quasi silo]

I got hooked on it recently, not a long game so give yourself an evening or two

Quake II 64 is a banger too

[scenic stratus]

ost by aubrey hodges just like past games COOL

[quasi silo]

And it reuses no levels from the base campaign, just a few from the expansions

[scenic stratus]

on his bandcamp "This was the last Nintendo 64 game that I composed. I did a few ports later on but this was the last original. I must admit I never looked back. The N64 was a beast to work with. I did remixes of 2 tracks because there is a nasty bug in the midi music playback system that caused both tracks timing to drift in the game. The bug drove me crazy because it wasn't able to be fixed by the release date. I cringe every time I hear them play in game."

[quasi silo]

I never really paid too much attention to the OST so I don't remember hearing any of that

But yeah, play Quake II, even has crossplay co-op so I could join in sometime

[amber berry]

there's a vr version???

[sand sierra]

someone knows a fix for "achievements disabled"?

it says that i used the console but i dont even know how to do that

[rain flame]

If you take a screenshot using F12 key, the game thinks you opened console

I am assuming you are playing on Steam

just change the screenshot key to something else

and don't save the game after you get such message. If you already did, you need to use the save file which didn't get this message

[frigid stream]

Actual playable build of 1.0 would be insane

[sand sierra]

someone that can help me with doom 3 mp achievements?

[sand sierra]

we are already 2 i just need help for the 2 kills 1 rocket achievement

[rain flame]

I would consider, but I don't think 2 players can achieve that one lol

[sand sierra]

i have a friend with me

we are 3 in total

[rain flame]

Oh, that could work then.
The problem is I never played multiplayer on that game. So I don't know how to find lobbies

[sand sierra]

i think i can invite you on steam

[rain flame]

Yeah, good idea

My steam is linked to my discord

[sand sierra]

ok thx

[rain flame]

accepted

[sand sierra]

do you want to get the achievemnt too?

[rain flame]

yeah, I would appreciate that

[sand sierra]

get rockets and go in the middle

[rain flame]

Sorry if I killed you at the wrong time though lol

[sand sierra]

no problem

[rain flame]

thanks bro

So is there any other achievement left ?

[sand sierra]

yes

write me in dms is faster

[rain flame]

Thanks bro that was fun

[sand sierra]

there are another pair of achievement to get

[rain flame]

Oh, I'll rejoin then

[sand sierra]

how much hard is nightmare mode on doom 3 compared to nightmare on quake or doom?

[acoustic acorn]

wayyyyyy more reasonable

[echo roost]

searching for possible staff

[earnest matrix]

Does anybody play DooM 3 from GoG PC version? It keeps asking for a CD key. It's messed up.

I put my key in and then PunkBuster takes it out for some reason. I think that's who does it. They coded it in the .dll to do that.

[shrewd lance]

i played quake 4 and i see the textures almost the same as doom 3 maybe because there in the same game engine

[quasi silo]

Yes they are

[quick lily]

I swear I'll probably get the nightmare achievement before any of the multiplayer ones

The only doom3 main campaign boss achievement I don't have is the guardian boss

Some people might already know how

[rain flame]

I just defeated the vagary boss in marine difficulty.
Even though I took some damage, (about 40), I think it was too easy for a boss fight

[quasi silo]

I mean this is a very early part of the game

[vale wharf]

If u have both D3 and ROE installed i think you should start them both at least once each, that's how I fixed it

[earnest matrix]

Right now, it's not a big deal to me since I can pull down the console, disconnect and play through the single player game. But it is annoying since I legitimately own the game when it was offered as a gift through Prime membership. I keep putting the key back in the doomkey file and it keeps wiping it out. It's just odd also that I haven't found any mention of this issue on GOG DooM 3 forums.

And yes, as far as I know, the GOG version of DooM 3 comes with the included XP. It actually shows that key underneath the empty key space for the original game.

Do you know if there is a way to view the keys from the in-game console once it's loaded up?

[earnest matrix]

I finished Quake IV awhile back and enjoyed the game/story very much. I thought they put a lot of effort into it.

I didn't even notice if textures were being the same or re-used between the 2 games. It would be interesting to research that now and see how is unique to each game and how much is new material from Quake IV developers. I think Raven Software made that one.

[rain flame]

All I did was spam the chaingun and it was over in like 20 seconds

[acoustic acorn]

you were on marine difficulty against an early boss and used a decent strategy. Sounds normal to me

[rain flame]

that's what I am trying to say. Spamming a single weapon shouldn't be a decent strategy to defeat a boss, no matter how early it is

anyways, let's see how future bosses are like

[sand sierra]

the game and the expansion are really easy honestly

it gets pretty hard only on nightmare(base game)

[earnest matrix]

It would depend on what level you choose to play it at.

[sand sierra]

the expansion are pretty doable even on nightmare

[sand sierra]

quake 4 is a great game, it went under the radar and i dont really know why

maybe because it wasnt made by id?

[shrewd lance]

Yes it is a great game for a game from decades ago

[sand sierra]

i played it some months ago and it holds up really well, problem with the resolution but it isnt the game's fault

sections on the vehicles are pretty boring tho

[shrewd lance]

Well I have gamepass ultimate and it has quake 1,2,3 and 4 and the mouse speed is slow when I launch quake 4 on my PC.

[sand sierra]

i hope nightdive does a remastered

[quasi silo]

Came out at a weird time, console port was botched, mixed reception, and it was a sequel to an already disliked game

[shrewd lance]

I like quake 4 Xbox 360 version because if you go to extras in the game you can Play quake 2

[scenic stratus]

Quake is good gaems

[shrewd lance]

What tf is gaems

[scenic stratus]

games

[shrewd lance]

I know that you spelled games wrong

[scenic stratus]

I know I spelled it wrong

[shrewd lance]

Same here

[shrewd lance]

today i played quake 4 multiplayer servers and the severs are so dead trust me

[vale wharf]

quake 4 servers 💀
doom 3 servers 💀

invite some ppl and play together ig

[quasi silo]

Isn't it funny how servers for games only get alive after they're closed, like with ET:QW?

[shrewd lance]

Same with quake 1 and 2 and 3

[vale wharf]

yeah that seems to be a problem with many old games

[sand sierra]

Quake 2 was disliked? I dont really like It myself but i thought It was loved by a lot of people

[acoustic acorn]

It was alright. I gave it a playthrough. I think it's more that Quake2 does feel only slightly different than Q1

[quasi silo]

Yup, I liked it personally though

[sand sierra]

Its pretty good but quake 1 Is much better

[quasi silo]

I think they are both great games

[vale wharf]

quake 2 & 4 good, me like strogg

wars too

[sick sapphire]

based

[noble lichen]

Quake 2 fucking rules

especially after the new expansion

also: better deathmatch

[scenic stratus]

chat i downloaded the game couple of days ago n i have a question. Does killing npcs affect anything ?

[quasi silo]

You need to kill one or two of them for 100% completion (on BFG Edition and 2019) as they have a PDA and there's an achievement for killing one in a particular way but other than that nah, I just wouldn't run and gun everything I see though

[scenic stratus]

oh 💀💀 well i kinda was killing everything i see 💀💀 anyways ty !!

[acoustic acorn]

There are maybe two guys that you don't kill to get all the PDAs. It's a guy who talks a lot near a teleporter(he's sitting) and the guy on the bridge that you can save. Think you kill that second guy after he opens the door

[left herald]

should i buy this game??

[icy saddle]

Yeah

[scenic stratus]

ahhhhh okay! ty

[acoustic acorn]

make sure to save before the bridge guy so you can kill him without consequence. It's funny and nets an achievement

[earnest matrix]

Are you asking about DooM 3?

[left herald]

yup

[earnest matrix]

I'm playing through it right now and it's enjoyable but everybody is different so it's hard to answer a personal question for anyone.

If you're looking for a fast-paced shooter like Fortnight then this is not that. It's more slow-paced and story driven like a movie.

Good graphics, good story and you get to play the main character in the movie as you progress along.

[left herald]

yes ofc ofc

alr thanks

ill look forward to it

doom 3 is the only doom game that i haven't bought, so maybe next offers ill get it

[void hamlet]

PLS BUT IT BRO

[earnest matrix]

Did you already buy DOOM 2016 and Doom Eternal? And have you pre-ordered the upcoming Doom Dark Ages? You got a lot of DooM games to buy.

[quasi silo]

There are no DA pre-orders

[left herald]

there is no pre order for dark ages, but yes, i got doom 2016, eternal, doom 1 and 2 and 64.

[dusky fable]

no, if you want a horror game, i ill say yes, but an action game, its better play ultrakill instead of doom 3

[left herald]

thats what i was questioning myself about, if its actually more of a horror game or an action game

[quasi silo]

It's a middle ground

[sand sierra]

more horror if u play the original version, more action if you play the bfg edition(btw dont listen to people who say that the game doesnt feel like doom, they probably just played the first level of the game)

[livid wharf]

The first third or so doesn’t feel like Doom. After that it starts to feel like Doom 1’s first episode

[spice herald]

I used to believe that till I actually played the game. I found doom 3 quite fun

[rare phoenix]

Once the invasion actually starts I'd definitely say Doom 3 turns into more of an action game

its like Half-Life 1 with the long ass intro than boom! action.

[shrewd lance]

Half life 1 is a horror and shooter game it's like doom 3 but not so good ragdoll physics

[quasi silo]

Half-Life 1 doesn't have ragdoll physics at all though

[quasi silo]

Yes but that is not ragdoll at all

[earnest matrix]

I'm playing through DooM 3 right now and I really enjoy it.

[rugged rapids]

Exactly! I dunno why people don’t like it. I feel like they should remake it with better graphics.

[scenic stratus]

holy moly chat. So im playing doom 3 and. Woah. I am not a big fun of horror games but i really enjoy the horror aspect here. It just makes sense yk. No annoying jump scares but when you go through dark corridors and hear some heavy steps or terrifying sounds your palms start sweating a bit n you preparing to shoot whatever that thing is that is coming closer to you. From what i see ppl dont like it but imo it just completes the idea of hell invasion and absolute horror and terror of the situation.

[rain flame]

there are some annoying jumpscares, but I am willing to ignore those if the rest of it is good, which it is

the most annoying part is where enemies spawn behind you

[scenic stratus]

oh yeah 💀 ignoring the part of spawning behind my back, the rest is pretty good

[rugged rapids]

Me hearing a single Imp spawn behind me (He must have a death wish):

[earnest matrix]

That might be called DooM 2016, DooM Eternal and DooM Dark Ages. They're all advancements in idTech engine graphics.

But to be honest, the graphics are more than good enough for me considering the game was finished over 20 years ago.

[livid wharf]

2016, Eternal, and Dark Ages play completely differently from previous Doom games though. They essentially play more like character action games mixed with Quake than it does like classic Doom (quickswap combos, resource management being a short term juggling act rather than long term logistics, etc are radically unlike classic Doom. Doom 3 is more like a hybrid of classic Doom with Half Life). Dark Ages might skew a bit closer to the older games’ mechanics, but I doubt it.
My main complaint with 3 is that the combat often feels a bit underwhelming (especially in the first third), but it’s not a dealbreaker and I’d be very happy to see more mods like Phobos that ramp up the action while preserving a lot of the Half Life and classic Doom elements like exploration and the pressure to play more tactically

[outer hare]

i beat the hell guardian and sabaoth

sabaoth was hard i didnt have my soul cube charged lmao

[sand sierra]

dark ages honestly looks like quake and serious sam combined

the slayer and demons are the only doom related things in the trailer really

[earnest matrix]

Well then, to go back to the original want of playing DooM 3 in the year '24 with better graphics I guess we could try and state explicitly what that means exactly. I've been playing DooM 3 from the beginning using the Dewhm3 modification. And that was basically forced into my DooM 3 ecosystem not by choice but out of necessity of the original DooM 3 version constantly nagging me about a CD key that I had already entered a thousand times but the game keeps literally removing from the doomkey file itself. And that does offer graphical advantages over the original that include wide-screen support if nothing else. I'm sure that somebody has released AI upgraded 4k texture paks for the game also. So, that's something to look into as well.

[earnest matrix]

Firstly, you must own a system that is capable of giving you the eye candy you crave. At the moment, this is not the case for me, since I'm playing DooM 3 on an iGPU, Vega 7 graphics are all I have at the moment. So, for me to want better graphics would do me no good until I upgrade my system with a more powerful discrete graphics card.

[vale wharf]

you can try mods like Doom 3 Redux and Absolute HD

once u have a good gpu ofc

[earnest matrix]

I might try those, although, I gotta be honest. I'm very happy with the graphics as they are. I'm actually blown away by how nicely they have held up considering the game was released 20+ years ago. I wonder if GOG did something to make them better than they used to be?

[earnest matrix]

Does anybody know of a webpage that shows how to pass commandline arguments to the DooM 3 game when launching it?

[jolly heart]

I feel like i missed the super shotgun. Or is there one at all?

[acoustic acorn]

not in the main campaign. there is in resurrection of evil and lost mission which are unlocked after you beat the game

[quasi silo]

RoE and TLM are unlocked from the start

[acoustic acorn]

then maybe it's a version difference because it wasn't on mine

[quasi silo]

BFG and 2019 have them unlocked, both on PC and Xbox. Maybe you are confusing it for Nightmare being locked?

[acoustic acorn]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dI3ZVucbw4Y This looks like xbox gameplay. I can't tell if it's old 360 or xb1. But looks like only base game is involved

[quasi silo]

This is the XOne version

[acoustic acorn]

yeah that's what I have.

[jolly heart]

Idk what weapon I'm missing then. It's between the shotgun and assault rifle

[quasi silo]

Reread this and I'm not sure now if you mean the SSGs being locked? If so, no, you can get them in regular gameplay even without beating the games once

[quasi silo]

It's the SSG. The weapon counter thing is universal across all campaigns

[acoustic acorn]

The ssg is in RoE and LM. RoE and LM are not available until beating the game

[quasi silo]

They are immediately available

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/1246106122566373407/1305628824049946708/Screenshot_20241111_212152_Sketch.jpg?ex=6733b919&is=67326799&hm=2ae6b9887cccb2711b2039dd99b142c025887b2761103daeeeb5f5def0be8494&

[acoustic acorn]

it wasn't in that video. maybe a version diff

[quasi silo]

Can you send a screenshot of the video showing that? I can't look through myself atm

[calm blade]

Hi, I have the BFG edition and I see that it doesn't have any tricks.

[quasi silo]

What do you mean by tricks?

[calm blade]

IDDQD

IDKFA

[quasi silo]

Yeah, but you can input console commands like noclip into the console to achieve a similiar effect; though it locks achievements

The original version gave you an easter egg message if you put an OG cheat code into the console

[calm blade]

Yes, I understand, but I have it for PC and it is Windows 7.

[quasi silo]

Console as in developer console. It's a term for the debug menu

[calm blade]

Okkk

[outer hare]

Holy shit

The double vagary fight caught me so off guard

[outer hare]

Wow

banger campaign

[scenic stratus]

rare not doom 3 slander

[outer hare]

i liked it

[scenic stratus]

DOOM 3 was good

[outer hare]

i think its a nice 9/10

im gonna go on to ROE soon

the enhanced edition made the cyberdemon fight stupid hard tho

like damn bruh you had to include archviles in the arena too?

[jolly heart]

What's that

[quasi silo]

Super Shotgun

[vale wharf]

spam rockets & BFG

[jolly heart]

I still have yet to use BFG, trying to save it for big dummies

But conveniently I got it taken away from me when I went to Hell... idk how to get it back

[quasi silo]

You'll find it

[jolly heart]

Pissed me off when I got all my weapons taken away

I had ammo for yeeaaaarrrrss

[rain flame]

I just got to the communications part, and damn, those imps and lost souls are too annoying, they just don't leave me alone.

Also, a lot more zombies are coming now after they stopped coming earlier

[jolly heart]

Finishing under 10 hours is considered a speedrun?

[acoustic acorn]

if you have a timer, it's a speedrun

[jolly heart]

Game gave me a trophy for finishing under 10 and called it speedrun

Idk. Seem slow to me

[sand sierra]

it should be a challenge but the game is much shorter than that

like 5-6 hours

[jolly heart]

I figured

[slim willow]

https://www.moddb.com/mods/doom-3-bfg-edition-qc-suits/downloads/qc-doom3-armor This looks great, but it's only for BFG Edition...

[livid wharf]

Cool mod

[vale wharf]

ive already fixed it for og doom 3 but links don't seem to work in this channel sadly

other than moddb links apparently

going to try uploading it there and see if it gets through

[vale wharf]

https://www.moddb.com/mods/doom-3-bfg-edition-qc-suits/downloads/qc-doom3-armor-original

[slim willow]

Oh nice, thank you

[livid wharf]

Where do I put the pk4 to run the mod? I don’t see any kind of installation guide

[forest ridge]

guys i just completed resurrection of evil, now time to install BFG edition and finish lost mission

[livid wharf]

It’s also available for the original release in mod form

[vale wharf]

"base" folder in your doom 3 folder

[livid wharf]

Okay thanks

[cursive gulch]

THE HELMET!!!!

[slim willow]

Yes

[grave forum]

Why is there a bathroom mirror jumpscare

[quasi silo]

Horror game has jumpscares...

[vale wharf]

scary bathroom

[quasi silo]

Bathroom itself isn't scary, there is a turd in one of the toilets there

[wraith pumice]

FNAF moment

anyone else thinks more than 85% of the enemies in Doom 3 are just Imps?

they are just overused, it feels like they are in every fight

[rain flame]

yeah, seriously man, imps are everywhere in that game

[outer hare]

Playing through roe rn

I absolutely love it

[outer hare]

just beat it

the final boss kicked my ass jeez

but it was the best doom 3 boss imo

[ocean sapphire]

was John Carmack depressed when he was making the shotgun

[frosty holly]

No. But it was partially the influence of john romero that still lingered in the studio.
Designed to make you depressed.

[rare phoenix]

According to the wiki there are 512 Imps in Doom 3 and that's not counting Resurrection of Evil
close contenders would be

Zombies: 192 (not including RoE)
Vulgar: 167
All of this is assuming the game is being played on Veteran difficulty

[wraith pumice]

wow

it felt more like there was millions of Imps

[outer hare]

does anyone here play w/ doom 3 enhanced edition? i cant play lost mission for some reason :/

[vale wharf]

I think you need to use the .bat file that comes with lost mission instead of ingame mods menu

[outer hare]

is it supposed to be in my d3le folder?

all i see r these

cant send imgs nvm

[vale wharf]

In main folder besides doom3 exe afaik, should come with lost mission mod

[outer hare]

Ok thx

[outer hare]

If you're talking about run.bat that doesn't seem to be doing anything when i have my game open

[vale wharf]

you need to use it before you open game, bat should open it by itself

[outer hare]

ah ok ok

okay i just tried that, it opened a console for a split second and then instantly closed

but nothing happened

[vale wharf]

weird, last time i installed lost mission i had to use a bat file i got after i extracted it to my doom 3 folder to play it.
try adding this to your game steam launch options:
+set fs_game d3le +set fs_game_base d3xp

or shortcut, and launch from there instead

[outer hare]

That fixed it tysm

[oblique field]

I feel like doom 3 should have been a side game not doom 3

[quasi silo]

Top 10 most sensical sentences

It does make sense it's just phrased very, very poorly

But why do you think that?

[oblique field]

Well why try make more of horror game more action in it

[quasi silo]

DOOM has always been part-horror

[oblique field]

I would like doom 3 to be full horror game

Make it side game I don't know called Doom horror

[quasi silo]

I think it's a perfect blend

[oblique field]

Ok

[winged wren]

so lemme get this right, doom 3 is reboot of og doom? so is doom 2016 reboot of doom 1 again?

[quasi silo]

DOOM 3 is a reimagining, not a reboot
Same thing for 2016

[winged wren]

so wich one is canon to the story lol

[quasi silo]

2016 is 100% canon, whereas 3 is still debated about its canon status

[livid wharf]

Personally I think Doom 3 is more faithful to the spirit of the classic games than the modern titles are. Modern Doom games have more Quake DNA than classic Doom while Doom 3 is like a mix of Doom 1 and HalfLife.
Plenty of stuff about Doom 3 I’d change (making the shotgun more consistent and having more combat encounters with groups of enemies for some examples) but it’s still a worthy entry in the series

[dusk siren]

i got DOOM 3 about 3 days ago or so, im already at alpha labs 4 and have the shotgun, machinegun, hand grenades and chaingun

[trim berry]

Same thing with 2016.

[rare phoenix]

Doom 3 was the big return for Doom since Doom 64 of course it was gonna be a mainline title

its a 7 year gap between Doom 64 and Doom 3 you don't spend 7 years making a spin-off

why wouldn't you use your most popular franchise to show off your brand new fancy engine

[spice herald]

i have a slight theory doom 3 is cannon to the main story

all the classic games and wolfenstien happen in one universe/demension whatever u wanna call it

then doomguy gets sent through demensions by the resurrector into what will be 2016 and eternal. i think doom 3 happens in that new universe just way before doomguy arives

[rare phoenix]

We know Doomguy did appear in the Doom 3 universe though before the events of the game. 2016 and Eternal made the stone tablets in Mars City Underground depictions of the Slayer so he was already established as the Doom Slayer before the events of Doom 3 take place. Doom 3 is semi canon but the UAC in 2016 and Eternal never went to Mars till they had a reason to go there which was to mine Argent and by that point the UAC was already under Samuel Haydens command

and he's well you know obviously not in Doom 3

[spice herald]

ik eternal universe was linked someway with doom 3

[trim berry]

Can we all agree grenades in this game have the worst bounce physics in videogame history?

[vale wharf]

[livid wharf]

Weapons of Mars Destruction fixes the grenade physics btw

[trim berry]

Holy shit the shotgunners in this game are insufferable pricks.

Why do they get the classic Doom shotgun while I'm stuck with this piece of shit.

Sadge days.

[vale wharf]

just rush towards them and one shot kill them with your shotgun

[livid wharf]

IIRC the player’s shotgun was nerfed to its final state near the end of development so I imagine the shotgun zombies are based on a previous version of the weapon

[trim berry]

How does the marine reload the Chaingun?

By just... cocking something?

[scenic stratus]

He probably puts the uh.... Um.... In the..... Uh...... Yeah

Works every time

[trim berry]

It's near instant too lol. It's hilarious.

[livid wharf]

I assumed he was just inserting a new rolled up belt that we can’t see clearly

[trim berry]

It weirds me out how The Lost Mission ends on a good note.

You actually manage to save the scientist and take off with a group of dudes.

[quasi silo]

Credits roll too fast

I would've appreciated at least a scene of them boarding the thing

[mossy edge]

I love DOOM 3

[livid wharf]

I think Doom 3 is the Doom game that most benefits from gameplay mods. The vanilla game is fine but has some rather substantial flaws that many mods have fixed (the big ones are how the shotgun works and that multiple weapons have questionable sound effects, but there’s also more minor stuff like the player character sitting in the uncanny valley without a helmet and there not being a way to preemptively rev up the chaingun)

[scenic stratus]

doom 3 is perfect

(2004 not bfg)

[icy saddle]

I might try to find some music that doesn't make me have anxiety so I can actually play through Doom 3

because I really wanted to like the game but I couldn't play it for more than like 20 minutes at a time

-# side rant but I really dislike the pistol sfx tbh

[ebon marsh]

Bruh I can’t get past mars city

[acoustic acorn]

the more complicated a real life reload is, the more likely it'll be rapid or nonexistant in a game cuz it's too confusing

[wraith pumice]

I think the Maggots are one of the coolest new enemies in Doom 3, especially design-wise

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/465235452148842518/1311647561400062022/latest_42.png?ex=67499e7b&is=67484cfb&hm=d8fdf48d1c5b3e63281ce7a7927c8bde97ae77859ddf77efddce4b43a601da5f&

two heads, 5 different limbs and knives on the back, it's neat

[noble lichen]

they are cool

its not a new monster, but the Hell Knight redesign was definitely goated

[cursive gulch]

These guys are annoying to fight

[compact arch]

Is there someone with doom 3 bfg vr experience (fully possessed mod)? My movement is getting interrupted all the time

[eager mauve]

I have the Insanity Trainer but it doesn't work and I can't remap keys. Does anyone know of a v1.3.1 trainer with Infinite Ammo that works?
In Doom 3 I can't make Infinite Ammo either in configs or by editing .def.

[neat sluice]

Does anybody know if there's a video guide for how to install the doom bfa mod for doom 3 bfg edition? I would ask this in the modding section but I didn't see a section for doom 3. I read the setup guide and there are parts that are confusing to me that's why I was wondering if there was a video and I looked on youtube and nothing came up on it at least on my search engine on youtube.

[vale wharf]

you could bind a key to use console command "give ammo"

and use that whenever u run out of ammo

[slate void]

I sometimes wonder if a no hit doom 3 run is possible , that would be hell

[eager mauve]

This is the one I use. But that's not what I'm saying.

[quick lily]

Just killed the second hunter in ROE

Shoutout to the artifact for making this fight possible

Doom 3 might just be my favorite doom

[versed sleet]

About to buy doom 3, kinda late to the franchise. Which version should I prefer?

I've a series x

[scenic stratus]

Your only option is the re-release of the bfg edition

[versed sleet]

okay

[quasi silo]

Contrary to what plompy said, you can also play the 360 version, which is superior, but only on physical

[scenic stratus]

Superior??

Its basically the same thing but with a dead multiplayer mode and two mediocre ports of classic doom

[quasi silo]

And that makes it superior. What is your point?

The ports are not mediocre, and you can always get some friends together for the MP

[scenic stratus]

I've never seen anyone defending the bfg edition ports
Damn

[quasi silo]

They're the 360 ports on Xbox

[scenic stratus]

Anyway, what would be the point of playing the 360 version in a lower resolution in a Series X??

[quasi silo]

Is there even any resolution difference though?

[scenic stratus]

4k in the re-release

[quasi silo]

If the guy has no 4K TV then that's pointless

[scenic stratus]

I dont think the fucked up music, the fucked up sound pitching, the censored wolfenstein levels, the 35 fps cap and no way of using cheats makes it a good port tho

[scenic stratus]

Who knows?
Maybe they have one 🤷

[quasi silo]

censored
Yeah okay man, sure

Literally all of these are subjective, the only other one, that being 35 fps, is barely noticeable

[scenic stratus]

https://youtu.be/1snCRIl16ks?si=NMwR2u5f950rcDEI

Bland as shit

[quasi silo]

We are talking about the 360 version

[scenic stratus]

We are talking about the bfg edition ports

[quasi silo]

You replied with that list to a message where I literally say they are the 360 ports

[scenic stratus]

Well in that case, they arent

[quasi silo]

If we are in a convo about the 360 ports, let's keep it about the 360 ports

[scenic stratus]

You said the bfg edition ports are basically the same as the 360 ports but they are not

[quasi silo]

Point me to where I said that

[scenic stratus]

here

[quasi silo]

I am not saying the BFG Edition ports are the same as the 360 ports

I am saying the Xbox version of the BFG Edition gives you the 360 ports instead of the BFG ports

In conclusion, if you can, get the 360 version @versed sleet

[scenic stratus]

https://youtu.be/FzklaYN3l0E?si=CibrB2kiCnz9arWL

Are you sure those are the 360 ports of classic doom?

[quasi silo]

This is a video of DOOM 3 gameplay though

Do you mean the games at the very start, in the game selection screen? @scenic stratus

[scenic stratus]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/832527939153297448/1315401351110332436/IMG_3428.png?ex=67574679&is=6755f4f9&hm=684f7b352bf82fe471ad870223e069a852c0ee14b2bc9e6db3579e4d54802dd8&

Those two

[quasi silo]

Yeah those are the 360 ports

[scenic stratus]

I've only played the ps3 and pc ports

[quasi silo]

It kind of shows, no offense but you show to not know all that much about the ports we are discussing

And I can't blame you, weird that there's platform differences

[quick lily]

Fuck you

Respectfully

[quasi silo]

This is gonna look really funny when the spam message gets deleted so it looks like you are saying fuck you to the other message

Called it

[quick lily]

Oh yeah

Why are the special mechanics of ROE's bosses so obvious??

Either I'm a genius, or the game is just revealing itself too much

Took me one attempt on the first 2 hunters

[quasi silo]

Idk man I was wondering what to do on two of the four ones

[quick lily]

Then another 2 attempts because achievements got disabled

[quasi silo]

They are obvious to show you what their powers will give you probably

[quick lily]

I love the artifact so much

It makes you strong as hell when you have the berserk and helltime

Pun intended

[quasi silo]

Artifact makes the RoE guy solo the Slayer

[quick lily]

Truly

[quasi silo]

Everyone calls the Slayer multiversal and nerdy shit like that

RoE guy is the real winner here

[outer hare]

Roe guy is the true doom slayer

The artifact solos fiction

[frozen token]

its not opening

its just saying its open for a few seconds on steam, then it closes

[frozen token]

what the fuckkkk

[scenic stratus]

cobwebs in this channel

[frozen token]

goddamnit

[frozen token]

thats not spam???

log file 'qconsole.log' opened on Mon Dec 09 15:11:38 2024

Loaded resource file _common.resources
Loaded resource file _ordered.resources
Loaded resource file _sound_pc.resources
Loaded resource file _sound_pc_en.resources
Reading resource CRCs...
Current search path:
C:\Program Files (x86)\Steam\steamapps\common\DOOM 3 BFG Edition/base
C:\Users\Joe\Saved Games\id Software\DOOM 3 BFG/base
file system initialized.

ok so thats the first part

then the second part, is here

DUDE

WARNING: Unable to open resource file maps/_startup.resources
Initializing Decls

Couldn't open journal files
execing default.cfg
couldn't exec D3BFGConfig.cfg
couldn't exec autoexec.cfg
R_InitOpenGL

ok its working it was cause of the dashes

[frozen token]

i tried all the fullscreen shit

[frozen token]

please

[icy saddle]

Unless you wanna play BFG specifically, I suggest just downloading normal Doom 3 and using the dhewm3 source port @frozen token

[frozen token]

bfg is the only way i can play 1 and 2

i want to use it to play home.wad

[icy saddle]

You’d need to extract the IWADs from the files and use GZDoom for that

You cannot use the BFG port of 1 and 2

[frozen token]

ok

[icy saddle]

Also the BFG IWADs may have compatibility issues as they have some differences from the DOS IWADs

[frozen token]

will it still work

[icy saddle]

It’d be the only way to do it, so yeah

[frozen token]

holy shit it worked

[frozen token]

how do you put myhouse

[icy saddle]

You can just drag myhouse onto GZDoom and start it with Doom 2

[frozen token]

its not working

[icy saddle]

Ok, another way, then

Put myhouse in the GZDoom folder and open the terminal in that folder

gzdoom -iwad doom2.wad -file myhouse.pk3

[frozen token]

gzdoom : The term 'gzdoom' is not recognized as the name of a cmdlet, function, script file, or operable program.

[icy saddle]

That’s probably because your not in the right directory

Put your GZDoom folder in the root of your C: drive and then type in cd [name of the folder]

[frozen token]

oh shit it worked

wait no

wait maybe

[icy saddle]

Just load into the first map

If it’s a house, well, it’d be damn obvious it’s working

[frozen token]

its work!!!

yeyyy

[trim berry]

takes breath

Doom 3 guy is the most hopeless bitch in the IDverse. Motherfucker takes one point of damage and his neck goes wild, has his legs squished from a 5ft fall, would die in a light hail because his armor does nothing and in a fit of genius chooses to never put on a helmet for protection, has the thinnest stick baby arms you've ever seen, the punches he throws would make Steven Seagal laugh and is so stupid he doesn't think to attach his flashlight to his outfit and instead has to put his weapon away to dumbfoundedly stare at shit like a cockatiel with its gaze fixated on a peanut.
Also he can't even kill a Cyberdemon on his own and a stupid maguffin has to step in like a frightened child calling his mom on the mean kid at the playpen.

The fact he survives the invasion is either a testament to how stupid everyone in this game's universe is in the face of crisis or a really elaborate joke. Even in the ending cinematic he just looks like woke up from deep slumber after jacking himself off to exhaustion and had the most badass dream ever while the troopers who actually put in the work had the task of pulling his inept ass off Mars.

Actually yeah I'm going with that. Bro was just really eepy and the soldiers woke him up after everyone left because a fire broke out or something and he was the only one left in the complex. And because he's never fired a shotgun before he just guessed it would have the effective range of a blunderbuss.

[shut ice]

Thanks for the new copypasta

[trim berry]

You're welcome. From Civcord.

Anything to make Doom 3 defenders shit their pants.

[shut ice]

I don’t think Doom 3 deserves much hate tbh

I like it

[quasi silo]

Half of this rant doesn't make sense tbh

[trim berry]

I think it's okay but shitting on it is really funny.

[wraith schooner]

I'm glad I wasn't the only one who thought this was a copy pasta

[trim berry]

Doom 3 guy is pretty pathetic.

[trim berry]

What doesn't?

[wraith schooner]

It's bait. Bait used to be believeable

[quasi silo]

I'll go with that version

[scenic stratus]

Frfr on God, RoE guy sweeps

[shut ice]

I believe you my fam