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#classic-doom
vocal summit
finite crag
And it kinda homes on you
azure nimbus
kinda. the thing is insane. right angle king
vocal summit
my game froze
thanks nintendo
i will admit my aim with an analog stick isn't great
but that missle was bullshit
azure nimbus
revs do have that back and forth pain chance dance which if fungy
vocal summit
revenants have terrible posture
azure nimbus
check out their side punching frames. real weird
azure nimbus
holy snikies, unity already crashed. I play it for a single day all year
weak belfry
raw apex
i never played doom in my life, i started playing the classics and i thought it was totally amazing, this game is a masterpiece
vast reef
yes
raw apex
I'm almost done with the second
a lot of people say that the third game is not worth it, so I don't think I'll even play
tacit remnant
Doom 3 is fine. It just has a weak first handful of levels.
tacit remnant
Btw I recommend the original version of Doom 3 over the Bfg Edition
vast reef
Btw I recommend the original version of Doom 3 over the Bfg Edition
what about dhewm 3 for the graphics
tacit remnant
BFG Edition cut enemy count and generally made the game way easier when it wasn’t exactly hard to begin with
I have no opinion on Dhewm 3, but I wasn’t bothered by the graphics
raw apex
I want to finish doom 2 soon, but the laziness is bigger
tacit remnant
I like all the Doom games, but the first 2 are my favorites
Especially with all the many, many fantastic custom campaigns available
raw apex
after beating doom 2 since my computer sucks i was thinking about playing custom doom campaigns as my only alternative
tacit remnant
If you’re using the Steam version then the Addons list is a good place to start.
raw apex
unfortunately it's not the steam version
tacit remnant
What version?
If you’re on console then you’ll still have the Addons list. If you’re using a source port, then I recommend looking up YouTuber MtPain27. He reviews classic Doom campaigns and also rates their difficulty so that’s a great place to look for suggestions
azure nimbus
imo the only reason to play unity is for the achievements
tacit remnant
I find it fun to use as it’s easier to set up than PRBoom+. I really hate ZDoom so it’s out
raw apex
What version?
lzdoom
azure nimbus
I can't figure out how to use addons at all on unity for pc and I can't get extra addons on console. Controls aren't customizeable on ctonroller either. it has some limitations. but whatever is easiest ofc
tacit remnant
You need a Bethesda account to use Addons. Once they’re downloaded, just go to the Addon you want to play, click on it, toggle it on, and esc out
azure nimbus
actually -- unity has split screen. good if you have friends
azure nimbus
I managed to play with a friend from school and my dad -- however, I kinda think that was a mistake -- I should have had them play solo
raw apex
actually -- unity has split screen. good if you have friends
not my case :p
tacit remnant
Yeah mostly multiplayer reminds me that I don’t have friends so I ignore it most of the time
azure nimbus
there are the NM achivements ig which is a reason to play more "coop"(read having a 2nd controller on and doing nothing)
raw apex
whenever I find a multiplayer game interesting I try to get someone to play it
raw apex
imo the only reason to play unity is for the achievements
how can i play this version?
tacit remnant
Unity version is the one sold on Steam
raw apex
the ultimate doom?
tacit remnant
Yes
raw apex
Too bad I don't have the money to buy it
azure nimbus
what's "nice" is that I can't customize the controls on unity. Unity existing is huge for the scene and definitely got me into the game but its limitations are frustrating at times
arctic atlas
I just use gzdoom
azure nimbus
oh yeah, I'm all for ports; It is just that I've decided to grab the remaining achievements. Fun fact, my game crashed again. Woof has literally never crashed on me. Ever
azure nimbus
for me, it'll stutter shortly before a crash.
If I can just beat map29 and 30 coop, I can be done with the port. Though I might explore more of that arrival mapset super casually
azure nimbus
where is the coop map28 Rocket launcher? is that a deathmatch only thing? I'm trying to do coop nightmare and reaaaaaaally don't feel like grinding out map29 again so I'm using map27 and 28 to gear up. -- having the RL was nice, but basically spamming bfg was enough so grinding from 28 was good. All achievements done for doom classic and doom2 -- now no need to use this clunky unity port
dapper flint
where is the coop map28 Rocket launcher? is that a deathmatch only thing? I'm tr...
The bfg strategy is a good one. Plus all those cells during the pain section
You'll basically just need the bfg
azure nimbus
idk why, but I kept going for the RL to kill the caco horde but there are enough cells to use bfg there
dapper flint
And just use that switch as cover if you don't want to make the left jump. Just take them out when the trap opens
azure nimbus
I jumped left and went back and forth along the walkway
dapper flint
That works too. I just stopped doing that because I suck at platforming and always fell
azure nimbus
Doing that pistol start was a real project so I swallowed my pride and did it continuous for the unity achievement.
dapper flint
That was probably the best approach. It being actual split screen wasn't my favorite
azure nimbus
map04 and map22 were the other hard levels pistol start are far far easier since respawning is allowed and continuous play exists. I do like that split screen coop exists at least -- even if it's rarely used. Interesting how the split screen style hud gives some information that is normally hidden on the full screen hud: the armor type
even with a bfg, map29 is still hard.
dapper flint
I have zero friends into doom so it wasn't the best. I'm sure if it had online support it would be better. Playstation does a bit with shareplay but I always found it laggy
Yeah map 29 is a ball breaker. But after I really feel like I improved as a player
azure nimbus
This was my fastest IoS battle. I managed to not pick up the RL first try, then got telefragged, then the crosshair helped a ton
dapper flint
Had more confidence
azure nimbus
even if someone has doom playing friends, the odds that they play NM are low
dapper flint
The response is always... no fucking way
azure nimbus
coop doesn't seem like a great way to recruit new people. Just because of skill gap and wanting to let them explore mostly unassisted.
unity is good. I'm just spoiled
cosmic pagoda
decided to try doom zero
pretty nice wad, altho too much platforming puzzles
I suck at these and they are a source of constant frustration
azure nimbus
Arrival is limit removing and on unity? I didn't know that unity was limit removing
lost thunder
unity has raised limits, not removed limits
like an inbetween of choco and crispy essentially
i imagine it was done because there's not a huge selection of pwads that would fit unity's bill and are also completely vanilla
cold sentinel
there was this one time i went back to the menu after i died
everywhere i go i see you generic
dapper flint
unity is good. I'm just spoiled
I went back to unity try the new add on
It was decent
timid hinge
When are the remaining levels for Sigma-X going to be released
I'm way too hyped 😩
swift mountain
Can't wait for Sigil 2
grim gazelle
Yes
halcyon willow
When are the remaining levels for Sigma-X going to be released
I'm way too hype...
I'm assuming you mean guardsoul's project?
timid hinge
I'm assuming you mean guardsoul's project?
Yeah
tacit remnant
I recommend getting classic Doom on Steam
azure nimbus
For classic doom what's the best way to play it
buy it on steam and then use your choice of sourceport. With sourceports, you can use whichever you like depending on what mapset you're playing. Whether you want fancy levels with lots of advanced features or vanilla stuff, simply use whatever port you like. The steam version alone is good but is less powerful in most every way compared to sourceports if you go through the few minutes to download one -- I'm comfortable in saying that this is "the best" without worrying about unecessary gatekeeping/elitism or whatever since "sourceport" broadly covers essentially every playstyle. You don't need to use the port that I use and you dont need to use the same port all the time.
dapper flint
I recommend you get a cd drive and then get ultimate doom collectors edition then using the wad files like a boss
azure nimbus
I can only assume this is at least a lil facetious
dapper flint
Right click and take those babies out
dapper flint
Digital Collector's Edition with digital statues
Physical collectors
finite crag
Oh nice
slim willow
anyone ever just play doom on dos
like sometimes that 320x200 crust just brings you back to life you know
vocal summit
chocolate doom
halcyon willow
Yeah
He's busy working on an age of hell map for me but should be back to sigma x after that
raw apex
how to beat doom ll in 10 minutes?
lost thunder
impossible without heavy TASing
dull folio
https://doom.fandom.com/wiki/Collector%27s_Edition
Hol’ up, twice the remastered doom, and a singular doom 2
This is getting out of hand, now there are 2 of them
last flower
Gzdoom with its WAD files is so cool
I got ultimate doom, doom 2 and final doom cuz of the WAD files.
It allows WASD movement and even up and down.
Now the barons are quite normal just use the bfg on them.
Tho the cyberdemon was a nightmare.
BFG takes some time to charge up tho but very effective
cosmic pagoda
like sometimes that 320x200 crust just brings you back to life you know
4:3 aspect ratio was the bomb
cosmic pagoda
Now the barons are quite normal just use the bfg on them.
unless cornered, wasting 40 cells on a baron is often a waste
vast reef
It allows WASD movement and even up and down.
wasd movement and mouse are available in dosbox
azure nimbus
Idk why gzdoom has the reputation of being easier than other ports. Woof and eternity were just as simple if not even easier
last flower
On pc dosbox is an absolute toaster
azure nimbus
dos was for pc
cosmic pagoda
Idk why gzdoom has the reputation of being easier than other ports. Woof and ete...
I thought it was because mouselook and jumping enabled by default thus making a lot of the classic maps easy
vast reef
btw @last flower you turned off linear filtering right
vast reef
Idk why gzdoom has the reputation of being easier than other ports. Woof and ete...
mouselook and jumping enabled by default make quite a few of the maps in the IWADs incredibly cheesable
i love gzdoom's options menu though
azure nimbus
I thought it was because mouselook and jumping enabled by default thus making a ...
the narrative that I always felt people were getting at was at ease of use. Idk, I'd have to I suppose see a survey of those newer players. Yes, gzdoom's option search is amazing
vast reef
i love gzdoom's options menu though
wish other ports used something similar if not identical
cosmic pagoda
oh about ease of use
yeah, I think most modern sourceports are about equal in ease of use
even crispy
vast reef
yeah, I think most modern sourceports are about equal in ease of use
prboom was pretty confusing for me to set up back when i was new to doom
cosmic pagoda
just put the pwad as input and set iwad and run
azure nimbus
maybe that's why -- it was compared to prboom for a long time.
vast reef
yep
cosmic pagoda
if anything I felt gzdoom had too much options in the ingame menu and hard to find relevant ones
azure nimbus
I used gzdoom for pirate doom and the setup is basically just turning on/off the crosshair and freelook if you so choose. GZdoom's controller scheme has default binds that mostly work with very minor changes.
Eternity, I used for heartland. Skillsaw was so kind to include settings within the pwad so that was instant setup.
Using woof, there are some graphics stuff like mirrored corpses, but in terms of real setup: get your keybinds, and choose the default comp level / set it with a parameter. That is an extra step. I know the comp level numbers (and that -complevel vanilla works just fine) but only because I watched the decino video
vale gyro
anyone ever just play doom on dos
Only thing I play on unless I am running a mod, then I use GZDoom.
last flower
I use GZDoom for main gameplay.
cosmic pagoda
Crispy is imo the sexiest for vanilla stuff, i use that whenever possible, and dsda for boom compatability, works well
vale gyro
I use DOSBOX for the authentic gameplay. I am a guy who likes older games being played as true to the original as possible unless it’s unplayable that way. GZDoom was my original plan until I found a tutorial on how to setup dosbox with doom. So yea, me owning the Steam version meant that I needed the original exe files because for some odd reason, it comes with the iwad and base exe, but not the other exes needed fro setup, so yea, spent two hours trying to find em until I checked the description of th
cosmic pagoda
For dosbox play you can also compile the original source quite easily
Just need the iwads
vale gyro
Oh, might look at the source code just for fun later
But if I were to compile the source code, I would also fix some of the issues in there as well
azure nimbus
if you only care about vanilla gameplay, lots of ports have demo compat gameplay
fast solar
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3oh5L-9SR5w is this a good time?
vale gyro
if you only care about vanilla *gameplay*, lots of ports have demo compat gamepl...
I care for full authenticity, so I went with setting up dosbox
And I’m pretty happy with it to be honest
azure nimbus
oh dos is as vanilla as you can get for sure
vale gyro
GZDoom worked for me as well, just keep it around now for mods though
cosmic pagoda
Honestly carmack releasing the source code was probably the best thibg to happen to classic doom since the release of plutonia
vale gyro
I agree
cosmic pagoda
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3oh5L-9SR5w is this a good time?
Is this a rickroll? Im on bus so no vids but 19 is way too fast for map32
Map30*
fast solar
Is this a rickroll? Im on bus so no vids but 19 is way too fast for map32
no it isnt
cosmic pagoda
Wr is 30 sec for uvmax
fast solar
i cant send pictures
fast solar
Wr is 30 sec for uvmax
im playing on gzdoom
i rocket jumped to the part of the switch and started shooting the hole on the icon's face
from there
vale gyro
Wouldn’t that be considered TASing?
fast solar
tasing?
vale gyro
Or am I just that dumb in the speed tuning scene?
fast solar
i did it with my own hands
vale gyro
Don’t take me as 100% fact with it
fast solar
to rocket jump you just have to look down shoot a rocket and then jump
vale gyro
Knew that
fast solar
k
vale gyro
Just don’t know if source ports are allowed in most speed runs
fast solar
i discovered it yesterday
vale gyro
Well, like I would know
fast solar
Just don’t know if source ports are allowed in most speed runs
k but even if it was a source port is my time good?
vale gyro
k but even if it was a source port is my time good?
Yea, good time
fast solar
k
vale gyro
Like an, actually good time
fast solar
epic
azure nimbus
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3oh5L-9SR5w is this a good time?
this is the funniest thing that I've ever seen
fast solar
this is the funniest thing that I've ever seen
its my first time trying to speedrun something
azure nimbus
Speedruns are always done in the compatability that the map is designed for. doom2 doesn't have freelook nor vertical boosts from rocket explosions. So I mean -- it's a speedrun but it wouldn't be accepted.
lost thunder
valid by your own ruleset but invalid by established community standards
fast solar
i dont have admin on my computer to install dosbox
azure nimbus
you don't need dosbox to play a "established community standards" run
Many sourceports(prboom, prboom+, dsda, woof, crispy, chocolate(I think eternity)) all have vanilla demo compatability. GZdoom does not however
fast solar
k
azure nimbus
For casual play, use whatever you like of course. But if it's a speedrun that you want to submit, you'll have to play on the required compatability setting and record a demo file by typing -record myDemo.lmp into the command line
I do think that playing vanilla levels with fancy gzdoom abilities is an interesting project, but it would be a different, perhaps unofficial, category
lost thunder
any gzdoom demos w/ stuff like rocket jumping and freelook would be put into Other
cosmic pagoda
oh its a non compat run, makes sense
lost thunder
so, people can do them for sure. they just don't have their own category
though i'd imagine one of the reasons people don't do them much (except for dedicated gzdoom wads) is because you have to play them back with the specific gzdoom version
there are some old (g)zdoom demos that even desync when played back on different kinds of hardware, because of floating point shenanigans
cosmic pagoda
lost thunder
this isn't a problem on modern gzdoom though
cosmic pagoda
Wr is 30 sec for uvmax
my bad, didnt know looper did it in 29
cosmic pagoda
Tool assisted speedrun
nah a TAS would have to use whatever means the runner used to produce a series of inputs that you can feed into the original game to produce the result
most often people just rerecord every bit until perfect
vale gyro
Ah, thanks for the response!
cosmic pagoda
theres various ways people go about TASing but dooms demos make it quite simple to edit in principle
you can theoretically even manually edit the file
lost thunder
Doom TASing also supports just playing the game while using slowmo/rewinds/etc. rather than building tic by tic
though that's something people mostly do for TASing max runs
cosmic pagoda
doom zero really wants to make me use the chaingun
theres so much ammo for it
seems a fun megawad so far(I'm at map11) however theres way too many frustrating jump puzzles
especially the timed ones
and the sadistic practise of putting a pain elemental somewhere a bit further but within sight and throwing an arch vile at you so you have to deal with the arch vile while the meatball spews its disgusting ejecta all over the place
azure nimbus
chaingood
vast reef
Only thing I play on unless I am running a mod, then I use GZDoom.
based
azure nimbus
I wonder what John Carmack thinks about us playing on demo compat engines. Would he be yelling at us to use the various features that gzdoom offers like mouselook as opposed to sticking to the older model?
azure nimbus
also does anybody know of any good city levels
Heartland.
azure nimbus
Not every heartland map is as sandboxy as we imagine city levels sometimes, but it is industrial themed skillsaw maps with room over room, gorgeous texturing and some barnburner fights. Eternity engine is required, but he has the settings needed included in the pwad so the only setup is telling zdl to use eternity
vast reef
it looks amazing
azure nimbus
he said in the upload page that mouselook is optional but playtesting was done with it off
vast reef
wait
azure nimbus
it is eternity only
vast reef
can eternity run zdoom mods
azure nimbus
case by case? I have no idea. I know that it can't run piratedoom
vast reef
i'll test later
finite crag
can eternity run zdoom mods
a few zdoom mods can be run on eternity, I think
vocal summit
if it's boom compatible it runs
cosmic pagoda
I wonder what John Carmack thinks about us playing on demo compat engines. Would...
I wish he made an ama tbh
cosmic pagoda
also does anybody know of any good city levels
plutonia map29 too
azure nimbus
if it's boom compatible it runs
right but then it'd be a boom mod. Eternity is a followup to mbf
cosmic pagoda
you can see map29 is rushed on plutonia, with the edges being empty but whats there is great
finite crag
right but then it'd be a boom mod. Eternity is a followup to mbf
I think what generic is saying is that if it's a boom compatible mod, it can run in eternity
cosmic pagoda
best iwad city map for sure
azure nimbus
I think that map13 downtown gets more hate than it deserves. If you know how to jump from the teleport destination, it can be managed way faster. It is strange that the BFG is not considered a secret but taking the teleporter up the stairs from the blue key is and it's just a trap.
Same for map15, I had so much trouble with that level but I realized recently that you can hit the switch for the stairs in the yellow key room before it comes out of the ground. then grab the invuln to pickup the yellow key with. Again, secrets are famously broken here: the pointless teleporter in the blue key building isn't even taggable for a secret without the PE -- the megasphere counts as two for some reason. The arachnotron area in the final building with the normal exit isn't even tagged at all. The chainsaw is tagged seperately from the room that forces you to take it so it's essentially tagged twice.
Secret tagging in the IWADS was basically random imo
cosmic pagoda
especially e4
azure nimbus
I was watching doomkid play through some of e1 and casually mention certain areas as secrets but they aren't actually tagged as secrets. Even he, a 30 year old veteran of the game loses track of what actually counts because it's so random. And yeah, e4 is a mess. I never found the plasma in m3 until maybe last week. it isn't a secret so I never knew that there was something missing
cosmic pagoda
I like that modern source ports tell you when you found one
azure nimbus
Playing uvmax, I never really bothered learning what was a secret and what was just hidden/has monsters. But with nightmare, there is a meaningful distinction between hidden and tagged and wow so much stuff isn't tagged. I always think of the chasm as the biggest example of it. The entire area past the invuln should be a secret. It even has that computer that raises the megasphere that isn't tagged
cosmic pagoda
oh chasm, havent played that in a while, cant even remember where teh invuln is there altho I kinda imagine
is it in the green ugly as sin building
azure nimbus
the toxic slime building? nah no secrets or invulns in there
cosmic pagoda
yeah thats what I meant
azure nimbus
The invuln is a secret. past the blue door, you can raise this weird part on the floor and get an invuln. Beyond the invuln, there is a + sign shaped walkway. If you fight in the area to its right, and hit the computer panel in the back, it lets you grab a mega back on that + sign. not tagged
Or even just something like the backpack in map03. I don't know how to get the backpack. I never bothered since it isn't tagged.
cosmic pagoda
oh its that part, yeah now I kind of remember
should do a playthrough of doom2 tbh, have kind of neglected it for ages
azure nimbus
Try it on NM, really changes it up -- kinda ruins map04 and map22 though
having hidden stuff untagged does kinda make it this next level of hidden beyond a cursory wiki read which is kinda cool
cosmic pagoda
sounds like a plan for my upcoming vacation
dapper flint
also does anybody know of any good city levels
There's a wad called moonlit district. It's all great city levels
pearl osprey
can eternity run zdoom mods
As far as I know, eternity is the only engine besides ZDoom to support UDMF format
However it cannot run zscript and some other fancy GZDoom stuff
Mapsets made specifically with ZDoom in mind might run well on Eternity, for gameplay mods you're gonna have a rougher time
azure nimbus
imo eternity does better at maintaining a vanilla feel in its default render
pearl osprey
Eternity is such an underrated engine, it has the potential to be as advanced as GZDoom yet retain the vanilla atmosphere
vocal summit
i recently learned that the gzdoom team had to recreate all of the doom actor code in zscript
pearl osprey
No where near GZDoom's scripting/modding capabilities atm but it doesn't have to be
vocal summit
i recently learned that the gzdoom team had to recreate all of the doom actor co...
why
it's just gonna cause more lag
pearl osprey
I guess so it's consistent everywhere
vocal summit
the decorate worked fine
pearl osprey
and also I think it will allow it to be more modular perhaps
azure nimbus
Eternity is such an underrated engine, it has the potential to be as advanced as...
why heartland is so important. So valuable to have a mapset that highlights that strength of the engine and it's technical abilities
vocal summit
and also I think it will allow it to be more modular perhaps
not really
gzdoom was never like
hard-coded
like vanilla or boom
pearl osprey
I guess they just want to get rid of DECORATE, it's deprecated after all
vocal summit
still supported though
if anything the decorate is more modular
you dont need to account for zscript versions, just slap #include [decorate thing here] into decorate.txt and boom
pearl osprey
My best guess is that decorate is still supported for backwards compatibility with older wads
but the only way to tell the real reason is to ask the devs directly
vocal summit
i have
pearl osprey
if only they were on this server
vocal summit
zscript is more versatile
easier to use
the only reason you'd want to use decorate is for zandronum
which has been limiting so many mods
people just insist on using zandronum because "it runs better" when in reality, its just outdated gzdoom
(with better netcode)
vocal summit
zandronum part is my opinion on it
the first thing is what the devs said
gzdoom has a discord server btw
it's pretty good if you need tech support and such
pearl osprey
I just joined rn because why not lol
raw apex
how to beat doom ll in 10 minutes?
i beat doom 2.
raw apex
impossible without heavy TASing
i'm just kidding bro
lost thunder
okay?
dapper flint
Eternity is such an underrated engine, it has the potential to be as advanced as...
Unfortunately the devs don't repair issues
No disrespect but they logged a solo net problem last July and have not fixed it
Which is why I switched to GZ
As far as I know it's the only source port with controller support to not have a functional solo net to this day
Woof does
azure nimbus
John Carmack never fixed lost souls not bouncing off of ceilings. unplayable
dapper flint
Not a big deal for you. But if you have a source port without solo net that's pretty pathetic
Honestly
I'm glad eternity fixed those sky textures though...after 3 months
Right on...
I'll use eternity to play Heartland
That's about it
pearl osprey
Since doom engines are open source anyone can contribute to fix issues or even become the new developer
But there is a lack of FOSS programmers who want to work on doom
So dsda-doom and GZDoom get most of the developers and contributions
dapper flint
Dsda is doing great. Agree with that
pearl osprey
If someone volunteers they can fix all eternity's issue relativly quickly
dapper flint
Well I loved eternity for a while. A few of my videos were with it. But if you join their discord you'll see that for the most part they aren't interested
dapper flint
See you're nailing it. The potential is so strong. But it's just not getting there. Actually makes me sad
Anyways tried to post the link
young pond
DOOM Ray Traced Mod | E4M8 Unto The Cruel https://youtu.be/7zn3V8bJxv8
quiet idol
hello
modern scroll
DOOM works great on the Steam Deck (not a shocker)! Not sure why it says it isn't supported.
modern scroll
omg i just finished map14
Congrats!
hexed escarp
especially compared to map13 which was not very good
digital hornet
whats the difference between the archive.org WADs and the steam/gog paid ones
slim willow
ones legally obtained, the others not. 
digital hornet
ones legally obtained, the others not. <:ultrakappa:854310774537191434>
so basically no difference then lol?
vocal summit
there is
vast reef
steam has different medikits
vocal summit
one is piracy and the other one isnt
vast reef
they have green crosses instead of red ones
vocal summit
steam has different medikits
steam "classic" has the red cross
vast reef
or that's just the unity port
vast reef
steam "classic" has the red cross
oh i see
vocal summit
steam unity has the arguably better green cross
it's a lot better than the pills i'll give it that
slim willow
they should have made the cross blue like in 2016 and eternal
vocal summit
those arent even medikits
slim willow
yeah but health is blue
vocal summit
they're just drops
slim willow
yeah thats all i meant
digital hornet
whats the point of id open sourcing the engine but not the WADs?
vocal summit
wads have copyrighted content
slim willow
so people could use it to make sourceports and their own software
vocal summit
yeah exactly
digital hornet
makes sense
vocal summit
some commercial games nowadays run on gzdoom
vocal summit
i heard chocolate has a more classic feel tho
get either crispy or prboom
slim willow
yes. i'd recommend crispy doom though or woof! if you want a mix of classic and modern
digital hornet
turn off linear filtering
why
vocal summit
chocolate isnt worth it imo
slim willow
get either crispy or prboom
dont use prboom or prboom+ anymore. stuff like dsda-doom are way better
vast reef
you can easily turn that off
yep
vocal summit
im stupid
digital hornet
are you sure you like it blurry
default is trilinear filtering which it says is the same as none
vocal summit
default is trilinear filtering which it says is the same as none
none (trilinear filtering)?
digital hornet
yea
slim willow
eduke32 makes fun of the filter by calling it "blurry" and "vaseline" not doom but funny as hell
vocal summit
that's for if you want to use anisotropic filtering on hd textures, you dont need it to just play normal doom
vast reef
vocal summit
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/949034376052752414/969871840149389312/Hdv...
i like the blurry look
slim willow
i like the blurry look
im so sorry for your loss
vocal summit
gives it that early hardware accelerated gzdoom jank look
vast reef
i like the blurry look
i like it on some hell textures
slim willow
vast reef
makes them look like photographs
vocal summit
they are photographs
azure nimbus
Woof is vanilla compat other than I suppose static limit crashes and all-ghosts effect. About as "classic" as you'd need. Any map with crashes like that, you'd not play on vanilla anyway
vast reef
they are photographs
more like photographs i mean
vocal summit
makes sense
digital hornet
are the steam wads worth the $15?
slim willow
get a load of these goofballs using bilinear filtering
digital hornet
what do u guys use
vocal summit
https://youtu.be/9_iPHrfI6GI this video is hilarious
vast reef
what do u guys use
gog wads
slim willow
are the steam wads worth the $15?
play the shareware doom and decide yourself
vocal summit
are the steam wads worth the $15?
yeah, but get it on sale
slim willow
its the first 9 levels and its free
vast reef
just get doom 2
azure nimbus
is shareware doom even still around?
vocal summit
yeah
slim willow
yes you can find it with a quick google search
vast reef
just get doom 2
more worth it than doom 1 because of the wads
azure nimbus
Whatever the case, on their own -- yeah idk if the game is worth the money. However, with doom2, you can play, for no additional charge, 30 years of fanmade content. A huge amount of it is excellent. Good challenge, good atmosphere, lighting, textures, level design, so on
vast reef
whyd it block the link
vega doesn't like links
digital hornet
cringe
azure nimbus
the shareware has always been open. Carmack released the sourcode a few years later. However, the textures and sprites are still proprietary. They were never officially released for free. That's really what you're paying for with the steam version. It is also why freedoom exists. It is essentially using the open source code but with fanmade textures and sprites so you get the same game but it just looks fungy. Also different levels
digital hornet
but its only cringe because people decided to ruin things <:doomguy_dead:2422844...
people suck
azure nimbus
with 1000s on here, makes sense that vega is bully
thoughts on e4m5? I hated it first time around, but of the e4 maps, it's grown on me the most -- compared to my original impression. It is still kinda a mess of a level
tacit remnant
Beat Plutonia map10 after 2 months of being stuck there.
gusty falcon
the shareware has always been open. Carmack released the sourcode a few years la...
There are ways to work around that thoogh and get something close even with freedom
Using a monster pack could get something close to the original monsters and using something like maps of chaos or doom 1 would get something close to the original levels
vast reef
There are ways to work around that thoogh and get something close even with free...
enhanced vanilla project for the monsters could work
huh weird
freedoom's imp replacement turns into the imp when attacking
when running it with dsda-doom on maps of chaos
their projectiles are still normal though
rocky grove
I W I L L D I S T R I B U T E I L L E G A L D O O M W A D S
vast reef
i changed the sprite billboard and now the game actually plays fine with mouselook on
some actors look janky when they're below you at a sharp angle but at least i can tell they're there
slim willow
I W I L L D I S T R I B U T E I L L E G A L D O O M W A D S
congratulations. have fun 👍
finite crag
Greetings, I have a question.
Playing classic Doom on PS4 I have suffered some ticks in the game, that is, it freezes for a few seconds (the console is relatively new). It's sporadic, it's already happened to me about five times. Specifically, he has spent playing the Deathless addon. I would like to know if this could be a bug with the game or the add-on specifically or if it could be a console issue. Thank you very much.
rocky grove
My rage is immeasurable.
rocky grove
Hideous Destructor likes killing me with HERPs.
rocky grove
https://i.imgur.com/M4C8eVF.png
Pain.
vast reef
how do you start solo net on gzdoom
cosmic pagoda
Seems like there is bo optiob
No option*
Maybe try with dsda doom, it has the option and supports most pwads
digital hornet
anyone know how to scale the HUD? mine is really small relative to the rest of the screen
also lol are images disabled? wtf
cosmic pagoda
Maybe try with dsda doom, it has the option and supports most pwads
Not shilling for the port, but thats just something i know supports it
cosmic pagoda
how do you start solo net on gzdoom
apparently like this, checked it since I am at a pc now
vast reef
enhanced vanilla project is beautiful
vast reef
https://www.doomworld.com/forum/topic/92921-gzdoom-solo-net/
tysm
vast reef
enhanced vanilla project is beautiful
i thought the monster and weapon designs were kinda tacky at first but honestly they're really refreshing to look at in-game
azure nimbus
Greetings, I have a question.
Playing classic Doom on PS4 I have suffered some ...
the console ports are unstable. Part of why most people play on fanmade source ports
vocal summit
the console ports are unstable. Part of why most people play on fanmade source p...
no they're pretty good
azure nimbus
no they're pretty good
I played it over the last few days and it crashed 3 times.
vocal summit
true that did happen for me like twice, but the rest were stutters
azure nimbus
the existence of unity is great for people getting into it, or who can only use console for some reason, and the achievements are cool, and split screen is cool, but it is unstable and that's further evidence that it is unstable
cosmic pagoda
Are consoles even something worth to own these days? Havent had one since psx
pearl osprey
If you have a powerful PC I don't think you'll ever need a regular console, but handhelds might be a good choice
also there are execulsives
which I hate the fact that execlusive games are still a thing
cosmic pagoda
Handhelds, hm yea that makes sense
Hows the battery life on these, seems like a good thing to bring with you onto a train or something
pearl osprey
I haven't personally used one but I think they last long enough for hours
cosmic pagoda
I do have an powerful pc, but not too good for games, i built it for music production, hence the 5900x and my last machines gpu. For home gaming id rather get a better gpu once they get cheaper - aven tho i only have time for the occasional doom these days.
However getting something portable seems tempting
pearl osprey
I am really interested in the steam deck, because it's pretty much a tiny pc
You can use it to play PC games and you have a desktop mode
Too bad it's not available in my country yet :/
cosmic pagoda
Oh looked and it costs only 400-700€ too according to wiki
Gonna def look into getting one
pearl osprey
The nintendo switch is even cheaper but it's a lot more locked down
And it's selling point is Nintendo games, but those aren't as interesting imo
cosmic pagoda
Ah nice, yeah ill rather take a steam deck then
Just gotta finish renovating my place so i have the funds
pearl osprey
Same tbh, the freedom you get from a desktop OS is hard to compete with
vast reef
i'm attempting to play scythe 2 with fast monsters and the shotgunner turrets in map 2 keep screwing me over
warm yoke
god damn, it'so pleasant to play brutal doom
why are people still attempting to invent anti-stress toys
violet sundial
Ok Ultraviolence is a lot more comfy
foggy lance
Nothing more stress relieving than to murder some demons
warm yoke
why are people still attempting to invent anti-stress toys
the best anti-stress i've seen is bdoom
violet sundial
Nightmare was good practice for Ultraviolence tho
warm yoke
Nothing more stress relieving than to murder some demons
yes
foggy lance
Indeed
vast reef
the best anti-stress i've seen is bdoom
i prefer brutal doom platinum or brutal doom kickass edition
warm yoke
i prefer brutal doom platinum or brutal doom kickass edition
what are those?
vast reef
what are those?
brutal doom forks that make a few changes
the biggest and baddest of them all is project brutality
warm yoke
ah, heard of it
vast reef
33 weapons and 65 monster variants
warm yoke
i'll check these forks once i finish bdoom 2
vast reef
my favorite doom mod setup though is nashmove (removes slipperiness) + ddash + whatever mod that replaces hitscan with projectiles + a headshot mod
warm yoke
yes hitscan is bullshit
vast reef
my favorite doom mod setup though is nashmove (removes slipperiness) + ddash + w...
then i play it with fast monsters
warm yoke
like it's much more fun to dodge projectiles and feel like Neo than to pray to god that shotgunners won't hit you
warm yoke
my favorite doom mod setup though is nashmove (removes slipperiness) + ddash + w...
i'll try these too someday
foggy lance
I will have to also
vast reef
i'll try these too someday
would heavily recommend playing anything with tilt++
warm yoke
would heavily recommend playing anything with tilt++
what's that?
foggy lance
Oh cool
warm yoke
makes the game feel more 3d
Interesting
cosmic pagoda
i'm attempting to play scythe 2 with fast monsters and the shotgunner turrets in...
ohh, I have only seen a playthrough by bmd, but can imagine. NM would be even worse
because of reaction time
vast reef
i would wither the moment i opened scythe 2 on nightmare
azure nimbus
I was able to get map1 and map9 and one or two other handpicked maps but that was about it. it's mostly pretty impossible
rocky grove
So, I saw videos about the Zdoom discord, and my brain is smoothening.
vast reef
I am clinging on to the last bit of braincells I have.
no i mean what did the zdoom discord do
rocky grove
no i mean what did the zdoom discord do
Let's say... A major case of major oversensitivity.
vast reef
Let's say... A major case of major oversensitivity.
makes sense
rocky grove
I'll send screenshots, and I think they can melt your brain.
cosmic pagoda
I was able to get map1 and map9 and one or two other handpicked maps but that wa...
on scythe2?
nice if so
azure nimbus
on scythe2?
yee. I picked the easiest ones so don't be impressed
cosmic pagoda
From my limited NM play so far it makes hitscanners so much mor3 dangerous
They shoot instantly and ypu cant dodge em
azure nimbus
even map 1 was really hard and I couldn't beat map2
cosmic pagoda
Shotgunners are so lethal on nm
azure nimbus
hey, give e4m1 a try
azure nimbus
hardest doom2 map pistol start NM is, by far, map22. there are sooo many chaingunners. The gunners in the plasma room eventually respawn and then they take the teleporter to be on the center platform until you get dozens of them all in the center
cosmic pagoda
oh catacombs, thats hard on UV as well
waxen zealot
Yeah
its virtually a Plutonia Level without archies
Nightmare is def brutal, Map04 took me hundreds of tries to just get out of the starting HitScan Heck
azure nimbus
to be fair, map04 and map22 are easy enough, relatively ofc, if you play continuously(and have coop respawning hehe)
cosmic pagoda
hows nm plutonia btw?
I did some UV pistol starts not too long ago, I think last one I finished was map05
map05 is my favourite plutonia map too
captures the whole essence of plutonia
short, sweet and painful
cosmic pagoda
gj
violet sundial
I accidentally closed out of the game mid m5 though and restarted on m4 because I forgot the mission number
cosmic pagoda
e1m7 and e1m9 are the risky ones on UV
violet sundial
Does that disqualify me
cosmic pagoda
nah
rocky grove
I have beaten E1M1 - E1M4 in hideous destructor.
You can now identify my blood pressure
violet sundial
I think e2 will be a lot easier since I already beat it on nm
Albeit with a ton of save-scumming
rocky grove
I have beaten E1M1 - E1M4 in hideous destructor.
The Mag Manager, is just the biggest middle finger towards me.
violet sundial
When you play Doom like a rogue-like
rocky grove
When you play Doom like a rogue-like
That's what doom is when Hideous Destructor loads up.
And my blood pressure is through the roof.
azure nimbus
hows nm plutonia btw?
I did the first seven or so but couldn't do the rest
rocky grove
It's jacked, the fucking STRESS.
cosmic pagoda
When you play Doom like a rogue-like
have you tried doomrl btw, a fun game
rocky grove
have you tried doomrl btw, a fun game
DoomRT?
cosmic pagoda
doomRL
a roguelike
with doom stuff
an old pic of mine illustrating the difficulty
rocky grove
https://i.imgur.com/BhCtuW1.png
Is this a tactical doom mod?
cosmic pagoda
no
rocky grove
Ah, schiebe.
cosmic pagoda
google doomrl
rocky grove
I know what it is.
cosmic pagoda
the link got removed here
rocky grove
It's a make your choice type of style.
cosmic pagoda
shotgun build worked for me best so far
azure nimbus
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3oh5L-9SR5w is this a good time?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yTDGoRBo_wI inspired me to give it a go
violet sundial
have you tried doomrl btw, a fun game
I don't like the acronym
Also I have the discipline required to imitate rogue-like with the default game anyway
finite crag
the console ports are unstable. Part of why most people play on fanmade source p...
Thanks friend 👍
vast reef
Also I have the discipline required to imitate rogue-like with the default game ...
are you gonna pistol start
when you die i mean
or are you gonna load up a save from the beginning of the level so you have weapons, health, and armor
finite crag
true that did happen for me like twice, but the rest were stutters
Yes, it Is like this, stutters
Forgive me please, I speak english little
azure nimbus
unity is great if you only have console, for split screen, for introducing people to the addons, to the game in general, and the achievments, but ultimately, we have stronger ports for general play and demos
azure nimbus
steam sale went nicely
vocal summit
on switch too, where it's supposed to be more expensive
vocal summit
sony moment
finite crag
Forgive me please, I speak english little. I speak spanish.
I'm dump with english language
azure nimbus
Comprendemos siempre entonces su engles no es malo. That's my attempt lol
violet sundial
are you gonna pistol start
Pistol start I guess
kindred jasper
heeelloo fellow slayers
cosmic pagoda
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yTDGoRBo_wI inspired me to give it a go
Nice
azure nimbus
I might also play through doom1 and doom2 with gzdoom and intentionally try to break progression with gzdoom features. Like for map05, if you jump then crouch midair, you can sneak through the window and skip the blue door. Like sure, not a category reaaaaaaally but I am interested to see just how much we can break
vocal summit
I might also play through doom1 and doom2 with gzdoom and intentionally try to b...
there's a trick so easy i can do it on my phone
one sec, i have to post it in #videos so i can embed
azure nimbus
lamo. map03 is just a deathmatch map imo
dapper flint
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yTDGoRBo_wI inspired me to give it a go
Well done
azure nimbus
literal gaming
finite crag
Who wanna play classic doom
tawdry horizon
hey
wanted to ask, what's the best way to play doom 1 in 2022
i havent played before
pearl osprey
The steam version (known as the unity port) is very good for beginners and remains mostly vanilla to the original game
You can also install some addons for free with it
tawdry horizon
The steam version (known as the unity port) is very good for beginners and remai...
Id like to play the original game with modern control schemes, i dont want versions that are different and marketed as "mostly vanilla to original"
I want the pure original stuff
finite crag
use a source port called Chocolate Doom
closest thing you can get to "pure original stuff" without either playing Doom through DOSBox or getting an old computer to play it
pearl osprey
I want the pure original stuff
Cbocolate Doom and Crispy Doom source ports are your best bet
tawdry horizon
aight
pearl osprey
They behave identically like the original game and have many QoL improvements
tawdry horizon
sounds great
pearl osprey
Keep in mind that all source ports are free to download, however you'll need a DOOM.WAD or a DOOM2.WAD file to play the game
You can get these files by purchasing doom on steam
pearl osprey
Crispy has higher resolution, Chocolate looks pixelated and Crsipy looks... crispy!
I personally prefer Crispy even if I wanted a vanilla experience
tawdry horizon
ultimate doom wad?
pearl osprey
Yes you'll need that
finite crag
Who wanna play doom 2
coral lintel
yo
can someone help e mod doom 2
its not like it used to be
plz
i got discord just for this
finite crag
can someone help e mod doom 2
yea
finite crag
not much so what u need help with
coral lintel
whenever I try to open the mod with gzdoom it just takes me to regular doom 2
finite crag
what mod we doin here
finite crag
want me to call u and show
coral lintel
help?
primal creek
help?
To mod gzdoom, simply drag and drop the mod WAD on gzdoom. Next a window will open with the IWAD (aka Doom 2 in your case) being what you choose. From there you start the game. If that is not working for you then there might be something wrong with the mod WAD that you downloaded.
broken meteor
Doom 2 Archives are not hard to kill
slim willow
yes
azure nimbus
they are hard to organize for sure. idk if I can remember every vile: map11 at the blue key. really easy but ok, first one so it teaches you how to dodge. 14 has a significant one in the open courtyard in front of the blue key building with hitscan backup. 16 has one guarding the invuln cave. 17 has one in the turret over the lava in the last room before the plasma. 20 has the rando one after the infight battle. 23 has the sniper one by the mega.27 has Barney and the one by the plasma+invuln. . 28 has one by the throne and one in the large open area after the drop off. 29 has one by the berserk.
Of these, 14 is a real threat, 17 might mess you up if you panic. it is platforming adjacent afterall. 20 can be an ammo drain ig. 23 will get you if you aren't paying attention and forgot. 27s is either useless or a joke. 28, you're invuln the whole time anyway, 29 you can peak a boo shoot or basically ignore.
doom2 doesn't use the archvile effectively, agreed
cosmic pagoda
I vaguely remember that doom2 made me underappreciate them, werent placed very well
didnt seem as dangerous as they really are
azure nimbus
imo they used pains too effectively though. Barrels of Fun is cruel
cosmic pagoda
oh yeah, theres a ton too
definitely want to try nm doom 2, that map with turbo pinkies will probably be terrifying
when you get over from the pain room to the pinky room and get locked in
tacit remnant
I’m about halfway through Plutonia and Archviles are used to devastating effect by the Casali brothers
cosmic pagoda
yeah plutonia changed everything
perfected the use of the new monsters added in doom2
azure nimbus
definitely want to try nm doom 2, that map with turbo pinkies will probably be t...
if you're cool, run along the edge. if you're trying to win(what i did), feel free to camp with chaingun in the corner.
cosmic pagoda
The archies, Dario put into the wall in 31 were very evil, in his playtrhough vid, he regretted doing so
tacit remnant
In general Plutonia loves malicious hitscanner placements
cosmic pagoda
are square corners even useable with turbos? can you kill em fast enough to not be bitten by the one thats not currently getting shot at?
azure nimbus
chaingun stuns + back and forth stun/dodges. It's...terrifying to pull off but sometimes bunkering down is the best option you have
cosmic pagoda
In general Plutonia loves malicious hitscanner placements
yeah but does not rely on it, abbatoire final room is a good example, it achieves such high difficulty with so few monsters and a pit that makes you watch your maneuvers. takes a bunch of tries for me every time
tacit remnant
I don’t remember Abbatoire too well tbh. I spent about 2 months stuck at Onslaught
azure nimbus
Onslaught is a clown map
With all the chaingunners in the second room and then all the boxes of bullets near the pinkies, you get maybe 500 bullets to burn for that section
cosmic pagoda
IIRC theres a secret plasma too
tacit remnant
Yeah I don’t know exactly why it gave me so much trouble.
Maybe the length, or the tight spaces with lots of guys, IDK
vast reef
what's wallrunning
cosmic pagoda
some walls are placed in a certain orientation, and strafing against it you can run forward at huge speed
like so
azure nimbus
you can outrun a rocket with sr50, but or at least I haven't, you can't outrun a plasma ball without wallrunning
azure nimbus
what's wallrunning
if you have a wall that is either fully horiz or vertical and you run along it towards either east or north, you can run double speed
vast reef
if you have a wall that is either fully horiz or vertical and you run along it t...
interesting
just tested it and holy crap it's insane
azure nimbus
my understanding is that ID wanted you to have a max speed against a wall so you don't clip through / bounce off correctly but they did a greater than sign without an absolute value so the "slow down" effect speeds you up
cosmic pagoda
wallrunnable walls are quite common
I accidentally find em all the time during normal play in wads
some work 2 way too
azure nimbus
can you point me to some that work both ways?
Can DM an automap screenshot if that helps
cosmic pagoda
one was in plutonia 2 in that large outdoor map that ended in that large room with a + sjaped bridge
let me go find it again
azure nimbus
any in the IWADS?
azure nimbus
https://www.doomworld.com/forum/topic/87199-the-doom-movement-bible/?tab=comments#comment-1587754 I've only ever found it north or east but I also don't try going in the other directions because my sources tell me that it doesn't work so I could be wrong
cosmic pagoda
the first one I remember for sure
I dont recall there being any in iwads atm, but maybe some pop up
horribly executed in this quick vid
but you can see it briefly working both ways
azure nimbus
holy snikies
cosmic pagoda
map03
azure nimbus
time to hump every wall both ways
cosmic pagoda
I tend to be less precise running around so I probably bump into way more walls than you and thus find more of em 😄
azure nimbus
oh I have my fair amount of decino informed trivia, but I bump into walls my fair share
finite crag
Gog is having a pretty nice bethesda sale https://www.gog.com/partner/Bethesda
vast reef
are there any good very open maps with a lot of monsters?
it could just be an empty box
as long as the monsters are well-placed it should be fun to play with zmovement
cosmic pagoda
are there any good very open maps with a lot of monsters?
nuts.wad
nah its a meme
vast reef
https://doomwiki.org/wiki/MAP28:_Maelstrom_(Sunlust)
thank you
vast reef
~~nuts.wad~~
might actually try it and see how it goes
cosmic pagoda
lol, go ahead, I guess, was meant as ajoke 😄
however sunlust has multiple open slaughtermaps
vast reef
thank you
i've only played the first 3 maps of sunlust since i'm not very good at doom but i'll try out the big open slaughtermaps
azure nimbus
I'm about 2/3 through sunlust and I'll say that the majority of the levels are gorgeous and well crafted but also, not really slaughterish
lost thunder
it gets slaughter-y in e3
azure nimbus
Even in the big stardate maps and now that I'm up to map23 here, the levels feel like challenge levels or arena fights, or complex interwoven incidental encounters/guards. The distinction between what is and is subtle and rather arbitrary but I do feel that it's different.
azure nimbus
are there some op-ish weaponsets
do you mean a mapset with OP guns or a mod or in the vanilla set? what context
cosmic pagoda
imho modding the weapons makes no sense without rebalancing the monster roster
the vanilla weaponset and vanilla monster roster seems like a happy accident of landing near perfection
vocal summit
you have clearly never played guncaster
vast reef
you have clearly never played guncaster
yes 
vast reef
imho modding the weapons makes no sense without rebalancing the monster roster
also yes
i asked because i wanted to play some new monster packs
and because i'm not good at doom i wanted stronger weapons to balance them out
although i have found the trailblazer mod and it's very good so far
cosmic pagoda
fair, doom is doom, you can play it however you want to play it
vast reef
i've been playing with zmovement lately set to quake movement with a hell of a lot of other options enabled
pretty much an entirely different game
i was looking for monster packs since the monsters get left in the dust with the insane mobility
i found smexunmon which increases their mobility, but also their hp
which now leads me to looking for weaponsets
cosmic pagoda
you have clearly never played guncaster
Maybe so, however sticking to vanilla allows me to git gud over time, also makes my achievements mean something as in be universally quantifiable
If i change how the game plays ill git gud at some mod not classic doom itself
If arch viles suddenly start taking 2 rockets instead of 3-4, it throws a spanner in the gears of my sub concsious calculator making me have to use my foreground brain capability for something that would otherwise be free, and thus taking my thoughts away from something else
Or forget and waste rockets
Etc
Each to their own hovever and fun is the primary objecrive
vast reef
Maybe so, however sticking to vanilla allows me to git gud over time, also makes...
another yes
that's one of my reasons for playing a lot of vanilla
getting good at a mod is only worth it if it's one of those really popular ones like brutal doom
and i don't like how brutal doom plays because it's just doom sniping edition
tidal scarab
I have a question about the official ports of classic Doom games (Doom / Doom II) present in the Google Store for Android devices. Do these support external controllers (such as Bluetooth controllers) or are touch-screen controls the only option? If you know the answer I would appreciate to know it. Please respond to this message or @ me so I don't miss it. Thanks in advance 🙂
cosmic pagoda
I have a question about the official ports of classic Doom games (Doom / Doom II...
external controller support seems like something they would announce as a selling point on the description
altho idk, for sure, but check these first I would suggest
tidal scarab
external controller support seems like something they would announce as a sellin...
Thanks for the response. And yeah - I read the official description but found nothing of the sort there. That's why I wanted to make sure if perhaps someone knows and can confirm it.
cosmic pagoda
ah okay, I was just having an educated guess, no concrete info
vast reef
what do you all think of the neural upscale mod
this one in case you don't know
https://www.doomworld.com/forum/topic/99021-doom-neural-upscale-2x-v-10/
the sprites look cool in the image but in-game i prefer the normal sprites
cosmic pagoda
Idk the original artstyle is nice and chunky
Any type of higher definition textures etc look weird with the level of detail in most maps
Chunky large square pixels are my jam
But im oldschool and weird
dapper flint
But im oldschool and weird
Lol unity is so chunk now it's wild
cosmic pagoda
oh idk about that one, from all I've heard about unity port, its "mediocre"
and IIRC they broke nightmare
tacit remnant
It’s fine, just kinda limited. Nightmare is broken on Switch
dapper flint
Really? What's wrong with the nightmare?
tacit remnant
Nightmare is fine on the PC version of Unity
cosmic pagoda
I think unity only makes sense if you do it through steam tbh
I dont like steam at all, never did, even though, I had my steam account since HL2 came out
dapper flint
My little neice really likes it. Easy to use for beginners
tacit remnant
I find Unity less of a pain to run than other ports personally
cosmic pagoda
also lol, I still have HL2 CD release
it required to install steam for some reason
so I did, shared the acc with my dad too, he was pretty much the sole user of it the last few years of his life
dapper flint
That's amazing bro
cosmic pagoda
I dont think I have steam installed even
cosmic pagoda
I had psyhical, but havent got anything left, or havent found yet
been a while and I moved many times etc
https://steamcommunity.com/id/h0lx/ oh yeah "17 years of service" LOL
oh, I even have 1€ in wallet
dapper flint
Right ??
raw apex
cool
cosmic pagoda
but yeah DSDA is very chunky too
like this vid I did earlier today, to show a 2 way wallrun
after discussing it
this is dsda
and crispy is also chunky, I have my debut/pet backburner project wads gameplay footage from it
crispy doom
first basically complete map I made, its on hold now, but its gonna be kind of a pet project - goal is to make pretty much all the textures and maps and music myself
will take a long while
but its for fun mostly
I aim for something of an episode length or so
5-10 maps or whatever
but yeah, crispy is even chunkier
livid sparrow
I wonder if you can get brutal doom on xbox
livid sparrow
Oh
finite crag
Excuse me. Steam's port of Classic Doom Is unity too? and because the console's ports are more unstable, What Is the reason? Thanks for answer me.
wise notch
Holy shit i didn't know that the intermission screen's song from doom II was this long
Right now replaying Doom II and i sat there on the big fat wall of text after Circle of Death/"O" of Destruction/Map 11 and i realised how long is the song that plays there
which is strange because like nobody is going to hear the full song because of how short the in-between-levels texts are
Pretty cool
cosmic pagoda
ignore my last video on my pet project, it was old, I found a much never version and recorded a short non spoiling demo vid to show off what ive been working on
I think I gotten guder so I can continue working on it, a year or so ago, people complained some bits were too easy, gonna now make em harder
vocal summit
Excuse me. Steam's port of Classic Doom Is unity too? and because the console's ...
yeah but it comes with a classic version
azure nimbus
if you know how to run dosbox though
finite crag
How to run dosbox then must know because it was brought up one time
lost thunder
dosbox comes bundled with the steam version
it's just an option you pick when you launch it
finite crag
oh ok then
finite crag
yeah but it comes with a classic version
sure, but the steam one, the port's console no.
azure nimbus
are there some op-ish weaponsets
Ray Mohawk 2 has levels in it too but if you just rip the guns, the shotgun speed is crazy fast and pistol shoots 7 times as hard and much faster
vast reef
Chunky large square pixels are my jam
yes
vast reef
Ray Mohawk 2 has levels in it too but if you just rip the guns, the shotgun spee...
thank you
hasty sinew
vast reef
<:doomguy_neutral:242282712423989258>
hasty sinew
@vast reef 
hasty sinew
Thanks
vast reef
what's your favorite map
hasty sinew
downtown
vast reef
are there some op-ish weaponsets
actually now that i think of it all i really need is a buffed pistol and chainsaw (and maybe a more responsive rocket launcher, but the normal one is fine)
doom 2016 weapons hit the sweet spot
vast reef
how does load order work?
does the first thing you load have the highest priority?
if i had a mod that made the cacodemon orange, and another mod that made it blue, which load order should i use to get the orange cacodemon?
lost thunder
blue first, orange 2nd
vast reef
thank you
vale gyro
How to run dosbox then must know because it was brought up one time
I’m just going to mention this as well, if your going to use the dosbox version, I suggest finding the original exes, you can set up bindings and stuff with them. If you just want to use the normal dosbox setup Steam has or use the original files, best to have novert in your doom directory and set up, disables player movement with the mouse, helpful if your sick of keyboard only.
wanton kestrel
Doom 2 mission 29 nightmare co-op..any tips or help? I've heard repeating mission 28 will help but it adds more time
azure nimbus
Doom 2 mission 29 nightmare co-op..any tips or help? I've heard repeating missio...
most consistent with cont play that I found was to play map 28 first. It is more time, but a short map. Run to the seret stache and grab a backpack from the revs. This part is kinda hard but you get as many attempts as you like since it's the beginning. Run down to the invuln near the rev in the main area(so you're still on the bfg platform). Take BFG. Get ammo near the arachnos. Go to the throne room and do the secrets there. Restock on invuln and run out. Grab the red key and run. Feel free to spam bfg basically the entire time. As long as you head back to the arachnos for another invuln and more ammo you'll be fine. Run along to the end. Use as little bfg as possible(preferably zero. you can just use ssg open the red door, grab a mega and head out.
trigger the lift and quickly run back. This way, you don't wait for the lift to run down while getting pelted by the manc and rev a mile away. Drop down, ssg the chaingunner and run to the teleporter. ssg just as you TP out. use a bfg on the wall as you open into the rev room. Make sure everything is dead. Hop off the platform onto the soulsphere area. hit the switch. Gougaru likes to bfg from up there. I like to hop off to the left and use the rising bridge to dodge and bfg when I am on the close side. However you are most comfortable. In the middle room with the cacos, you need to maintain your health. This final stretch is the most important health presevation. BFG a lot if you need. Mostly in the pain elemental part you'll need bfg. The golden run is to be able to save the soulsphere until after the berserk. Chaingun in the shotgun area. don't worry about killing the vile. or bfg it whatever.
in the end, focus on revs but mostly practice. This is the hardest part execution-wise. I like to go to the hellknight portion first bc it relies on the starting revs to be dead for you to return. My preference is bfg on the main platform, and plasma on the legs.
I'll stress, leave map28 with full stack and practice 29.
azure nimbus
downtown
explain. also are you the same noobslayer that I've seen on twitch? ||I'd also say that I like downtown more than most people, even if it is still a lot so don't feel like I'm debating you/calling you out. curious about the reason is all||
vast reef
maybe he's being sarcastic
finite crag
whats the font for the text screens in doom 1/2?
cold sentinel
i figured out how to kill the monster in rootpain.wad
urban jasper
So guys I finished doom I , doom II , and brutal doom mod . Do you guys know any other amazing mods like them?
cold sentinel
So guys I finished doom I , doom II , and brutal doom mod . Do you guys know an...
play sigil, or final doom
urban jasper
play sigil, or final doom
Oh I finished sigil too . does final doom seem interesting O_O?
cold sentinel
Oh I finished sigil too . does final doom seem interesting O_O?
it has TNT: Evilution and The Plutonia Experiment
two more offical wads
urban jasper
it has TNT: Evilution and The Plutonia Experiment
Woah amazing . I heard plutonia had a reputation for being extremely hard
cold sentinel
Woah amazing . I heard plutonia had a reputation for being extremely hard
watch civvie 11's video on it
and youll see
last flower
Mount cerebus was the weirdest map ever.
Tho It was too ez defeating the arachnotron.
It's projectiles are too low range.
Just used rocket launcher and plasma rifle.
Tho the ending..... 
vast reef
Tho It was too ez defeating the arachnotron.
i agree
dapper flint
Woah amazing . I heard plutonia had a reputation for being extremely hard
It's not bad at all compared to alot of wads out there but for its time and beginners it can be a little rough
dense tree
azure nimbus
Mount cerebus was the weirdest map ever.
Do you mean Erebus and the spiderdemon? Technically speaking, the spiderdemon has hitscan and not projectiles. But yeah -- she's only so threatening. Both the cyberdemon and spiderdemon kinda struggle as bosses without lots of map geometry help. But modern mappers use them as normal monsters quite well
cosmic pagoda
Isnt e3m8 called dis
azure nimbus
Yeah but maybe they meant that e3m6 is weird because it is. But you're right that they may have meant m8
as silly as the boss levels are, I liked them a lot when I first started(and still use e2m8 for 2 tap practice) and I hear that a lot of people also liked them as a kid. Though there is really no way around e4m8 being very strange
hasty sinew
royal heron
Jesus balls
last flower
super shotgun is pog.
dapper flint
You're God damn right
hybrid igloo
who wants to play multiplayer doom?
spare prism
It’s a virus
slim willow
It’s a virus
knotty vapor
whats the best website for doom mods
serene viper
moddb
dull snow
old nexus
Anybody know of any good softwares where I can make midi music in the classic doom style? [already have bosca ceoil]
fervent arch
anybody know what happen to the multiplayer on doom classic
azure nimbus
it's split screen. if you want online MP, look into zdaemon, zandronum, or odemex
halcyon willow
Anybody know of any good softwares where I can make midi music in the classic do...
Sekaiju is the go to tool. Free as qell
swift girder
i like to believe doomguy is just jamming out to 90s metal on a walkman while ripping and tearing demons
vocal summit
i like to believe doomguy is just jamming out to 90s metal on a walkman while ri...
doomguy probably owns an ipod
doom takes place in the 21st century
vocal summit
either that or he just uses his phone to play music
wind ingot
hey if I’m gonna play tnt evilution and plutonia which would I play first
digital hornet
finished knee-deep in my first playthrough
vocal summit
hey if I’m gonna play tnt evilution and plutonia which would I play first
tnt
do not play plutonia if your sanity is still intact
wind ingot
why?
vocal summit
it's like an official slaughtermap
wind ingot
well yeha I figured I should play them since they’re like the most offical wads
i should probably play sigil at some point too
vocal summit
it's good
vivid vine
hey if I’m gonna play tnt evilution and plutonia which would I play first
Skip TNT for your sanity and play Plutonia.
wind ingot
should I even really play them or is there other wads better then them
only one I’ve played is Eviternity
vivid vine
Many wads are based on Plutonia
Calling it slaughter is the wrong idea. It has many short maps that don't actually have a lot of monsters, but every monster is used to their full sadistic potential, intended to challenge people used to Doom 2 on Ultra Violence.
slim willow
guys really out here acting like plutonia is the hardest wad of all time
not you moloch
wind ingot
i just wanna know a good wad to play, I’m a doom mood rn
vivid vine
Plutonia is probably the best offcial wad by a large margin
slim willow
Plutonia is challenging but its really good.
wind ingot
and none of my friends have any answers since they don’t play the games 
slim willow
if you played through eviternity you shouldnt have too much trouble with plutonia
i recommend it
vivid vine
If you played Eviternity you should play Alien Vendetta
slim willow
let my man play plutonia
slim willow
tnt devolves into a boring mess real quick. dont do tnt
dapper flint
hey if I’m gonna play tnt evilution and plutonia which would I play first
Plutonia
wind ingot
LOL
vivid vine
let my man play plutonia
Why do you refuse to gain power
slim willow
some words are just banned
dapper flint
Baron was banned for a bit
dapper flint
Ah .. yeah no
wind ingot
was joking I was gonna speedrun it lol
slim willow
oh hell no
wind ingot
are there other wads like eviternity, like ones that introduce new environments and stuff
dapper flint
Yeah.. tons
dapper flint
are there other wads like eviternity, like ones that introduce new environments ...
Auger zenith was the last great one I played
slim willow
Auger is so good
vast reef
^
slim willow
i played a bit of it with a sega genesis/megadrive midi soundfont and that was cool
vast reef
it's one of those "i can't believe it's not zdoom" things
dapper flint
Lullaby was a great map also. About 2 hours. But if you have a cheese computer it'll lag
dapper flint
Hahahaha maybe
slim willow
true
wind ingot
limber mirage
I would try wads but my laptop hates card games
vast reef
if you're looking for good wads i'd recommend checking out mtpain27 on youtube
vivid vine
Your laptop can run Doom
limber mirage
My laptop was having trouble with a card game at lowest settings
finite crag
Wad recommendations? (Idc what they are (Difficulty doesn't matter, and just remastered levels are okay too))
finite crag
lol
vast reef
his dean of doom series is very good
finite crag
Alright, thanks!
slim willow
My laptop was having trouble with a card game at lowest settings
dooms playable on the gameboy advance. you should be fine
wind ingot
doom’s playable on calculators, you absolutely are fine
vast reef
doom’s playable on calculators, you absolutely are fine
barely
but i think one of the more advanced graphing calculators out there could handle doom wads
slim willow
bob is just scared. scared of the power modern doom wads possess
wind ingot
that reminds me, i need to finish SRB2 at some point
vale gyro
What’s the best Ultimate Doom vanilla wad? Been trying to find one.
vast reef
back to basics is one i know of
what i'm looking for is a wad that takes place in the sky or in outer space
vale gyro
back to basics is one i know of
If I’m correct you find it through /idgames?
dapper flint
What’s the best Ultimate Doom vanilla wad? Been trying to find one.
Sigil