classic-doom

[fickle adder]

Yeah I never checked though

I should enable it

[azure nimbus]

the limit is an enormous help in map09 Nightmare. Even UV needs it tbh

[fickle adder]

That one rocket launcher trap

So brutal, something plutonia would do

[azure nimbus]

if you go very slowly, you can get the RL without triggering the trap. If you want 100s though, you must go to the part with the shotgunners. So after fully picking up the RL, trigger the trap and kill the shotgunners. You CAN skip the chaingunner trap though if you jump from the bridge to the ledge with the shotgunners instead of simply walking across

[fickle adder]

Ah

Yeah there’s a whole firing squad in that trap

And I’m pretty sure the put is death

Pit*

[azure nimbus]

now the disadvantage of skipping the CG portion of the trap is that you have to play the reamainder of the level without a chaingun

[leaden hornet]

yo whats stronger doom 1-2 BFG or doom 2016- Eternal BFG

[azure nimbus]

The new BFG by a tremendous amount. The new BFG is a board clear. Shoot it in the sky and everything dies.

[pearl osprey]

hell, it can shoot a hole in the surface of mars

[leaden hornet]

well thats its beefed brother the BFG 100000

[azure nimbus]

the new bfg I suppose can't double kill archies that easily but I mean otherwise it's way better. If you had 10 000 revenants in classic, a bfg will kill maybe 10. If you had that many in new doom, the game would crash -- but also, a bfg would kill ALL of them

I do believe though that the classic bfg is far more interesting. This staggered megashotgun thing is far more interesting than "board clear"

[fickle adder]

Archvile death sound

It’s perfect

[azure nimbus]

it is odd that map28 has five invulns despite not really needing any. Idk, let's try that. skipping all invulns -- nevermind. It's pretty hard sans invuln

[azure nimbus]

ok got it. wasn't that bad. Reasonable.

[fickle adder]

Map 28 gets the reward of the most viles

[azure nimbus]

Four is pretty high for doom2 yeah

[clever jackal]

Can someone recommend some aesthetically pleasing doom wads? (Doom wads where the art direction and level design is very well done)

[young pond]

i haven't played that many custom wads, but BtSX is great. i'm 50% through episode 1 (yes, the entire mega wad is called "episode 1").
other than that, every once in a while i get me some wads i see on the 24/7 stream channel. i liked what i saw from class_ep.wad, d2reload.zip and gmp.zip.
mind you, i only saw one map of each wad, but i really liked the design

i'm sure there's other people who are better at recommending wads

[vast reef]

AUGER;ZENITH

[young pond]

oh, and in my current setup folder for dsda, there's more wads i liked.
BStain, crmsn37 and Lunatic

[vast reef]

diabolus ex for gzdoom

[young pond]

if you want a puzzle map, i can recommend cydreams.wad - i had so much fun with it, although map30 can go to hell... i have no clue what i'm supposed to do 😄

[vast reef]

corrupted cistern (also for gzdoom)

you've probably already heard of valiant and sunlust

hmmm

bridgeburner's stuff is very well done, at least imo

https://doomwiki.org/wiki/Bridgeburner56

[vast reef]

any vanilla wads that involve a LOT of dodging?

do not suggest okuplok

[azure nimbus]

Hell ground. mostly laid back combat(aside from map 2. imo oddly harder than the rest) and it's all about the scenery. Marble hell and large libraries all around.

[azure nimbus]

The best vanilla wads imo are Scythe 2 and Alien Vendetta. Scythe 2 coming out ahead by a lot imo

[clever jackal]

Thank you guys for the suggestions! I got my work cut out for me now

[vast reef]

tyty

[azure nimbus]

oh well I suppose NERF (not even remotely fair) is great too, but it is a special nightmare only mapset. Scythe 2 is the grandfather of modern maps though. It is classic because everyone else tried doing scythe2 after the fact

[dapper flint]

Still can't win me on nightmare. Came close though

[violet sundial]

I believe it to be appropriate to think of the technology as new and improved

[runic obsidian]

new and improved tech never fails

[hexed escarp]

is john romero ever jealous that after leaving id they went on to be massively successful and he wasnt quite as lucky?

[runic obsidian]

he made some of the best classic games ever, i dont think he really minds

[finite crag]

Question about the bethesda re-release versions of doom 1 and 2:
How in the f do you increase the screen size to hide the hud panel at the bottom?

The demo running in bg has max screen size so I guess it's doable

As it was in the DOS originals

[vast reef]

i think i found why gzdoom movement feels a little off compared to dsda-doom or crispy doom

i just get more input delay with gz

since my pc is garbage

[tacit remnant]

GZDoom movement also just handles weird in general

[finite crag]

What ón earth is final doom

[tacit remnant]

Final Doom was an expansion sorta for Doom 2 that has 2 additional campaigns

[vast reef]

expansion pack to doom 2

2 new mapsets

32 levels each

the plutonia experiment is well-made

i haven't played tnt: evilution

[tacit remnant]

TNT Evilution, which is boring, and Plutonia Experiment, which is a series of well designed and short high difficulty gauntlet levels

[finite crag]

Why was it called final doom? Was this the og doom 3?

[vast reef]

they were saving the doom 3 name for something else

it's why doom 64 was called doom 64

[vast reef]

it also wouldn't really be right to call it doom 3 since it's pretty much just doom 2 dlc

[tacit remnant]

I recommend playing Plutonia (after Doom 2) but skipping Evilution

[vast reef]

my friend's first doom game was plutonia

[finite crag]

So the back of the ps1 version said it was the final chapter apparently

[vast reef]

i think doom 64 was the last game in the classic timeline but i might be wrong

[slim willow]

It is

64's the last of the classics.

[vast reef]

so final doom is the penultimate chapter

[finite crag]

A fan made game getting an official port on ps1?? 🤯

[vast reef]

huh

[finite crag]

I was referring to final doom

[vast reef]

final doom's official

but they hired fan teams to make the levels

[finite crag]

Oh..

[tacit remnant]

Final Doom started out as a fan project that Romero bought

[vast reef]

oh

[tacit remnant]

Evilution was a big group project while Plutonia (which was specifically commissioned) was designed entirely by Milo and Dario Casali

I need to go to bed now, so laters

[finite crag]

Doom 1 and 2 were in bfg edition yes?

Hmm?

yep

Do they have multiplayer

idk

haven't played them

as I own classic dooms separately anyway

[tacit remnant]

BFG edition famously screwed up Nightmare difficulty

[astral saddle]

[halcyon willow]

should be "+" and "-"

[finite crag]

Could be the games don't recognize nordic layout, I did try those

[finite crag]

Thanks for the info tho!

[young pond]

DOOM Ray Traced Mod | E2M6 Halls of the Damned https://youtu.be/XVSjQyBR_3Y

[azure nimbus]

the names for doom games are pulled from a hat. doom64 predates doom3 in the mainline series. final doom is two games, maximum doom, ultimate doom, final doom all imply some level of being the last or complete collection -- even eternal doom does it. Don't worry about the names tbh

[finite crag]

Fuck yes PrBoom+ ray traced doom mod finally has AMD gpu support too!
I know what I'm doing tonight.

Actually seems it has been a thing since ver 1.04

Should have checked sooner

[young pond]

now that was fast! awesome

[wet wadi]

Sorry mister

[proud pilot]

finally fuckin finished doom 2 on ultraviolence 😩 icon of sin took me a few times

i had to get used to liberal bfg application because. apparently arch-viles will spawn a minute or so in and those are a pain to deal with

i really love the bit at the end where you get to see all the sprites

now i think i'm gonna try fast monsters

[vast reef]

fast coop monsters

[vast reef]

scythe 2 on fast monsters is loads of fun

[upper harness]

Did you ever get a solution to this? I'm stuck with the same problem. Can't even unlink my account like it suggests, the managed linked accounts page doesn't have a delete icon on the Nintendo account.

[cloud talon]

Doom 1/2 bfg edition do have multiplayer and are the only official port with online

[finite crag]

Oh ok

[proud pilot]

doin a hexen blind run now and my god getting adjusted to fall damage is weird

[violet sundial]

You should record it

I want to experience it vicariously

[runic obsidian]

hexen blind run but its the highest difficulty

[proud pilot]

dear lord no lmao i'm playing on priest

[proud pilot]

not actually sure how bc i am a huge noob

might start a demo when i get to the next hub though

[tacit remnant]

I finally beat Barrels O Fun on UV. I hate that level. It’s a cool idea but why the fuck are there so many pain elementals?

[proud pilot]

ughhhh yeah
that's on my least favorites in my uv run
it's fine on lower difficulties but it's just godawful
i had to redo the part where you teleport into the alcove with all the pain elementals and the barrels multiple times

and i lost my autosave on my first uv run and ended up out of ammo halfway through the level so i had to restart the entire thing. poor planning 100

[tacit remnant]

I basically shifted gears to just making a mad dash out of that room ignoring all demons that weren’t in my way

[proud pilot]

strategy that ended up working for me was letting everyone in the first alcove infight right after i started and then they were mostly cleared up for me to deal with the pain elementals
so i didn't have to worry about projectiles hitting me on the other side

[remote hare]

They can fck up speedruns with ease, dodging barrels is just one thing that can be learned through patterns, but lost souls bumping in your face is pain in the ass

[runic obsidian]

barrels o fun isnt really so fun 😳

[remote hare]

Its so cancerous doctors give up on it

[tacit remnant]

“Explosive barrel themed combat puzzles” is a really cool level idea but the level didn’t stick with that and suffers for it

[remote hare]

yeah because you simply dont have time and space to lure enemies right and find a safe place where the splash cannot reach your hitbox

[proud pilot]

god hexen is just like "do you like backtracking? YOU'RE IN LUCK"

[lofty roost]

I had to ask Bethesda support to unlink my Nintendo account on their side, then I opened one of their games on my Switch, and let it link accounts in-app.

That worked.

Linking accounts on Bethesda.net's website fails.

Pretty shitty, since I can't be the only person to setup their account on their desktop, then notice - oh, I can link accounts here too. Why not?

Why not, indeed… 😄

Well, because it's broken as hell when you do it on their site, vs in-game.

I hope my experience helps you out!

[upper harness]

Thanks man, I'll try Bethesda Support

[wise notch]

Me when no

[violet sundial]

You don't need a key to go

[wise notch]

?

[rapid saddle]

yes,

definitivamente si

[violet sundial]

U R not driving a car

[wise notch]

not yet

[violet sundial]

Not without the correct choice of card

[runic obsidian]

red card or blue card

[wooden heart]

blue card

it's the most dangerous

[runic obsidian]

living dangerously, i like

[wooden heart]

yes

at this point i wanna take down 2 gangs

with bfg division music

[runic obsidian]

do it

[finite crag]

ppl always ask this and never expect me to just walk away

its that easy people

[dapper flint]

Love the content. Keep it up

[violet sundial]

Green skull

[runic obsidian]

excellent choice

[hexed escarp]

is there anywhere where i can get the doom midis?

[lost thunder]

open the wads up in slade and export them

[vast reef]

ikr

absolutely sucks they aren't on spotify

[coarse igloo]

The Demons from Adrians Pen from Andrew version hits good

[keen crystal]

is zdoom ok?

[vast reef]

yes but it's not very vanilla

its purpose is mods

and fancy graphics

[keen crystal]

I will be playing gzdoom now

[vast reef]

turn off linear filtering

[keen crystal]

why

[vast reef]

i'd say turn off mouselook too but that's a personal preference

[vast reef]

do you want the game to look blurry

[keen crystal]

maybe

[vast reef]

https://imgur.com/a/Gawe2zl

https://imgur.com/vlFRXSb

[keen crystal]

its like bloom

[vast reef]

it's not bloom

[keen crystal]

ik

[vast reef]

linear filtering makes everything blurry

but gzdoom has bloom and imo it's really pretty

[keen crystal]

like half life

[vast reef]

gzdoom has nice graphics
https://imgur.com/KmlE5pT

[halcyon willow]

Gzdoom bloom is good until it's a big light source at distance

Then it becomes the sun

[young pond]

thanks man, greatly appreciated!

[finite crag]

https://youtu.be/yELVLeQUMR8

[vast reef]

yes lmao

[young pond]

DOOM Ray Traced Mod | E2M7 Spawning Vats https://youtu.be/oJmXF_vXe3w

[wise notch]

i wonder when will he do the doom 2 ones

[hexed escarp]

When I launch raytracing prboom+ with doom 2, it says warning unsupported wad, you might get visual issues

Has anybody tried playing it, and how well does it work

[past field]

I just downright cant run it

my GPU isnt supported, and I dont think it even has ray-tracing capabilities

[young pond]

I don’t know how it works, but they edited doom 1 textures only and no doom 2 ones.
Not even Sigil is working with the mod

This video is interesting https://youtu.be/yKHiwnZ3zJo

[vocal summit]

bought doom 2 and doom 64 on switch

playing no rest for the living rn

[vocal summit]

only problem with it is the random stutters every now and then

[dapper flint]

Last level is a blast ;) haha Enjoy

[dry rivet]

Changed the SSG's Firing sound effect to the Vine Boom sound effect. My day is complete

[dapper flint]

Die

[dry rivet]

we at the day and age where thats all it took to hurt someones feelings, yikes

[dapper flint]

You're a sinner

I'm actually hoping you're joking and you don't actually have dog shit taste

[violet sundial]

What the hell does that even sound like

Vines r so last century* in dog years

Don't you know everyone uses tiktok now?

[dapper flint]

Ass

[vivid vine]

If you use tiktok china has seen yours

[violet sundial]

Good hope they pimp it out better than Americans bc they are cheaper than China

[tacit remnant]

I like the custom sound effect for the pump shotgun in Hellground. It has this metallic creak to the pump

I can see wanting to distort the SSG boom for a bit of extra oomph but not replacing it altogether

That being said the default sound is fantastic

[dry rivet]

it really wasnt meant to be that deep

[dapper flint]

Never apologize to a dingus

[azure nimbus]

hell ground really did a great job. Eternal knows what they're doing

[dry rivet]

if its my message youve reponded to. No what i said wasnt targeted at you or anything like that, hope you'll be feeling better!

[violet sundial]

Oh

[dry rivet]

apologies for the confusion

Thats rad

[dapper flint]

Enjoy

[violet sundial]

I was genuinely curious about the vine noise despite the sardonic tone

[dry rivet]

its just some goofy thing i made while learning Zdoom scripting

[dapper flint]

Source ports are subjective. Gz has more mod options but it takes away from the original experience

[tacit remnant]

Heresy. I’m mostly kidding but I can’t understand wanting to change the game’s nuts and bolts in such a fundamental way

[pearl osprey]

In the end what matters is that you're having fun

[vocal summit]

it just felt outdated without being able to look up and down to be honest

it feels like it was only added because the graphics didnt warp when you did it using opengl

[azure nimbus]

the tech was there in 1993 to allow for vertical look. The reason that it wasn't added was that the renderer only worked from one perspective

[tacit remnant]

I like how Doom gets so much flexibility and depth out of an extremely limited and simple system. I think adding stuff takes away from that efficient design

[vast reef]

not a fan of mouselook because it's awkward af with the 2d sprites

sometimes i use a 3d model pack for the sole purpose of mouselook but monsters always look better with the 2d sprites

you can do what you want though

[violet sundial]

IDK I think adding the ability to hug pinkies and recruit them might be nice

Imagine being able to chop off an imp head and feed it to a pinkie like a pokemon

I would immediately if mobile version had the option

😩

After save-scumming to oil up the rust in my shotgun, I finally decided to go with a classic arcade style run

There's some other ports but idk the legality of them

I know that I cannot on the Bethesda version yet

If it's possible to play cross platform Baldur's Gate it shouldn't be too hard for them to figure it out if they can stop remastering Skyrim long enough to focused their pursuits elsewhere

I can show you my menu

Ok

[violet sundial]

An imp just hit me with a fireball for 60% damage

[tacit remnant]

You ever been killed by a Revenant missile that you were sure you could survive?

Damage is random and sometimes you’ll just get wrecked by a fireball but other times an identical fireball will do barely anything

The revenant missile is the most egregious case, with damage ranging from 8 to 88

[vast reef]

all ports are legal unless they come with the iwad or are involved with criminal activity

[rocky grove]

Finally, I have found MS-DOS Doom 1.

[violet sundial]

lol

[rocky grove]

Seriously, it took me a while to find it lol.

[violet sundial]

I saw one too

[finite crag]

Just completed tnt evilution and plutonia on uv mode today

It's fucking hard!

🥴

[timid hinge]

Ok so I just beat Valiant and Swim With the Whales, what do you guys think my next WAD should be? Make your vote

A: Japanese Community Project
B: Stardate 20x7
C: Vanguard

[vast reef]

true

[finite crag]

I hate go 2 it

it's a map I love to hate

I hate mount pain and habitat too

[finite crag]

A

[vast reef]

b btw

[unreal pike]

https://github.com/xoreaxeaxeax/movfuscator/tree/master/validation/doom anyone know this?

[slim willow]

a or b imo

[finite crag]

anyone remember of 7869.wad?

that fucked up wad

I played it

the wad emotionally disturbed me

[winter acorn]

Does anyone here own Doom II (DE) (german version) on bethesda.net?

[unreal pike]

https://github.com/xoreaxeaxeax/movfuscator/tree/master/validation/doom anyone know this?

[azure nimbus]

no it didn't. imps deal between 3 and 24 damage

[royal heron]

^

[violet sundial]

It threw one fireball and did this

Or else clawed the absolute crap out of me

[azure nimbus]

unless you have some mods on that change it, there were other damage sources or it hit you at least 3 times

[clever jackal]

https://www.reddit.com/r/Doom/comments/uemyhi/i_just_think_the_green_really_makes_it_pop/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=ios_app&utm_name=iossmf

[compact plinth]

im here to remind you that there is a mod for doom 2 that adds isabelle to the game

[violet sundial]

Trying to pistol start the entire game on nightmare is making the limitations of the default mobile controls very evident lol

"DAMN I CAN'T EVEN WALK UP A STAIRCASE"

It's either turn always run on and fly past the staircase multiple times or keep it off and die because you failed to double press the digital analog stick quite right

There should just be a toggle button on the screen

For some reason there's an extra fire button on the left side that is impossible to press

The options are dreadfully lacking

Sounds like your typical 10/10 Bethesda game, well worth $5 I love this game

No wonder I was relying on save-scumming lol

[vocal summit]

the switch version is cheaper... somehow

i think i paid 2$ to buy both doom 2 and doom 64

[violet sundial]

It's a more accurate representation of actually being Doomguy in hell so

always drunk

[vocal summit]

nah dont worry, its worse on a controller

gyro helps a lot

[violet sundial]

Gyro?

[vocal summit]

you move the controller and it moves the camera

[violet sundial]

Hm

[vocal summit]

i think its only on ps4 and switch, not sure

[violet sundial]

Also, my phone is possessed and spawns more demons than I ever saw the first time (aka because it's harder to aim and 1 shot them, they tend to swarm up pretty fast)

Them being imps

[vocal summit]

chaingun

there should be a way to change the control layout on mobile tbh

[violet sundial]

I might record it if anyone is interested in watching Doom on Android

It's very tinny sounding though

When it gets recorded

[vocal summit]

it's been possible for years using delta touch/doom touch, you can even run fancy gameplay mods

[violet sundial]

I would prefer to meet the devs lol

[vocal summit]

you can even run doom 3 on it too, but that's not for this channel

[violet sundial]

If it's possible to put Brutal Doom on Delta Touch I'll buy it rn

[vocal summit]

yes it is

if you ask the dev he can give it to you for free

[violet sundial]

I wanna kick it to IDFKA

As long as someone can vouch that they aren't trying to hack me I'll spend the money lol

Got enough demons to kill

[vocal summit]

i can dm you a screenshot of it running i guess

[violet sundial]

I'm just freaked out by the hacx and harm1 wads on their first screenshot lol

What do those do

Oh yeah I forgot the difference between hacking and cracking

[vocal summit]

they're full games

[violet sundial]

I've got almost 5 bucks sitting in my Google account that I was saving for Doom 2 but I failed to account for taxes

[vocal summit]

official port should have an option for a prboom-style fullscreen hud

[vast reef]

why are you so suspicious of source ports btw

just a question

[violet sundial]

I'm not

I'm suspicious of unofficial android apps in general

Some of those devs r like wtf

[vocal summit]

i hate arch viles

I ACCIDENTALLY QUICKSAVED INSTEAD OF QUICKLOADING

no shot im pistol starting in no rest for the living map06

[violet sundial]

I have noticed my skill increases better without saves

[tacit remnant]

I’ve made a rule for myself to have a maximum saves per level as I don’t currently have the patience to do saveless runs (though I kinda want to play that way for Doom 1)

[vast reef]

i allow myself different amounts of saves based on how long the level is

1 or 2 saves in doom and doom 2

[young pond]

** DOOM Ray Traced Mod | E2M8 Tower of Babel** https://youtu.be/gqcX_1_qNTU

[vast reef]

in those massive slaughtermaps that take like 40 minutes to beat i'd give myself 8 saves or even more

sadly i've never beaten one of those massive slaughtermaps

[violet sundial]

I'm doing it right now but my performance on e1m2 has me concerned

I'd like to record it

I chose pistol start because I already know I can't beat the whole game with no deaths without KB n M

Might try streaming it on PC once I get one

[cerulean lion]

Hi I'm new here 👋, shocked that I didn't find the Doom discord sooner

[violet sundial]

I'm shocked you didn't search for it sooner

Hi

[vocal summit]

the invite is literally "doom" how did you not find it

[cerulean lion]

I didn't know there was one but I searched it on Google

I'm new to discord in general also

[violet sundial]

Now that you're on the spot, what's your favorite Doom demon?

[cerulean lion]

Hard one umm, cacodemon or pinky

And the pain elemental is technically a cacodemon so that's included as well

[azure nimbus]

where are you getting this relationship from?

[tacit remnant]

Because they’re both floating eyeball monsters? That’s kinda all they have in common though

[cerulean lion]

Exactly

[tacit remnant]

They’re distinctly different creatures though

The literal only reason the pain elemental is a floating eyeball monster is because not have legs was quicker and easier to animate

[hexed escarp]

which should be played first

plutonia or tnt

[tacit remnant]

TNT is easier but boring. Plutonia is actually interesting.

[hexed escarp]

ok

is tnt still worth a play or should i just skip it

[tacit remnant]

I recommend skipping it

[hexed escarp]

ok

[finite crag]

Hacx is a doom total conversion that's recognized as an iwad, and Harmony is a game made with ZDoom (source port)

[violet sundial]

Okay thanks for assuaging my worry

[gusty falcon]

Been playing deathless recently and it's honestly alot more fun than I expected the levels are quite abit of fun I recently finished episode 2 and I love the episode level with the dual cyber demons there was also a secret level in episode 1 that was quite a reminder to doom 2s gacha only you have to actually make them infight without getting blasted to bits yourself and hope the one who's left is weakened enough to kill. when I first played it I actually didn't realize you were supposed to have the mastermind and cyber demon fight each other

[violet sundial]

Yeah it's a lot more fun

Also since it's not a rogue-like rpg there isn't an investment in a character you grow to love only to die and never return.

A whole lot less stress as a result

[finite crag]

Good evening. Hope everyone's doing well tonight

[vast reef]

he was playing a mapset called deathless

https://www.doomworld.com/forum/topic/103075-deathless-v11-out/

[violet sundial]

Ohh

It's weird interacting with the doom community for the first time ever in 27 years lol

[violet sundial]

You too

[finite crag]

I'm doing great, thank you!

[vast reef]

the classic doom community is a great group of people

[hexed escarp]

Is it weird that I have a strange sort of nostalgia for the classic doom games even though I only started playing them a couple months ago and I wasn’t even alive when they first came out?

[gusty falcon]

No it's possible for a game to give that feeling even without having grown up with it

[hexed escarp]

I get it especially with specific levels and textures weirdly

Like the e1 sky in doom 1

[vast reef]

i get it too

the sprites just hit home for me

[violet sundial]

Having grown up with DOOM since age 3, yes.

It should terrify u

[vast reef]

it's weird that they get nostalgia?

[violet sundial]

ya lol

[vast reef]

i get nostalgia from stuff that isn't even a year old yet

[violet sundial]

That's not how nostalgia works

[vast reef]

he gets a strange nostalgic feeling

yk

[violet sundial]

Unless it's measured in internet years of c

[vast reef]

the sprites just have that charm to them

i get nostalgia from doom but i think it's mainly because i watched quite a few classic doom videos when i was about 10

[violet sundial]

Hell, Doom is a sensory overload

I can't wait for smell-o-vision

[vast reef]

and not being able to look up and down

[hexed escarp]

Eh the brain is weird, it does weird things that can’t really be explained

[vast reef]

my first fps game was duke nukem advance and kid me was impressed af with how a game as 3d as this was on gba

[vast reef]

i really like the primitive 3d feeling

it's why i avoid mouselook and 3d models as much as possible

[violet sundial]

Mine was the windows maze screen saver

[runic obsidian]

i loved that screen saver

[slim willow]

Bro I own Duke Nukem Advance. It's so weirdly not completely awful.

[vast reef]

ikr

[echo tartan]

I installed GZdoom and I'm trying to open a WAD file I downloaded, can somebody guide me on how to do so?

the wad file is the Okuplok Slaughter Map

[vast reef]

you do have the IWADs for doom right

if you do, just drag okuplok onto gzdoom

then select doom 2

also i'd recommend dsda-doom or crispy doom for okuplok

it lagged my gzdoom out but that's probably just my crappy pc

[echo tartan]

you mean the base game wads?

[vast reef]

yep

[echo tartan]

I have them both

doom 1 and 2

[vast reef]

yeah just drag okuplok.wad onto gzdoom then

[echo tartan]

k

and then run doom 2?

[vast reef]

yep

doom 1 doesn't have mancubi so you'll get errors

[echo tartan]

I get an error when I try to extract Gzdoom to my desktop @vast reef

I have in in a zip file

[vast reef]

what

how are you extracting it

[echo tartan]

where does GZdoom need to be so I can drag the wad file onto it?

I just don't manage to do that inside the zip file

or should I just put the wad file into the zip file of GZdoom?

I'm sorry I'm all confused

[dry rivet]

i've pretty much just had the files for Gzdoom in its own folder, and dragged whatever Wad/pk3 i wanted into said folder

and then when both in the same folder dragged the wad/pk3 into the gzdoom launcher

[echo tartan]

they both are at the same zip file but not at the same folder, should I create a folder inside the zip?

[dry rivet]

Create a separate "normal" folder for example on your desktop which will contain your launcher. I believe the wad/pk3 cannot be just dragged onto gzdoom from a zip file. make sure the wad/pk3 is on your desktop or a normal folder on your pc

[echo tartan]

@dry rivet success!!!!!!!!

thank you

[dry rivet]

Very nice, im glad to help out!

[sullen spruce]

Unity ports / console ports resolution fix when?

[azure nimbus]

you can fix the unity bugs if you download the WOOF patch on doomworld and open the program with ZDL

[young pond]

DOOM Ray Traced Mod | E3M1 Hell Keep https://youtu.be/od7nTHEEHHQ

[vast reef]

oh btw
lzdoom doesn't work right for me because my (rather old) monitor's resolution is 1440 x 900
whenever something that isn't 1440 x 900 tries to load, the monitor says OUT OF RANGE and i have to close the program or restart the pc
when i boot up lzdoom its default resolution obviously isn't going to be 1440 x 900
and because the monitor turns off, there's no way to fix it in settings
i was thinking of making a config file and booting up lzdoom with it using the command line or a launcher, but i don't know which part the resolution goes in

pasted from #classic-doom-maps-mods because i accidentally posted there instead of here

[rocky grove]

I was 4 when I touched doom.

[violet sundial]

Did it also terrify the crap out of you for years

[rocky grove]

Yeah, it did

My dad was a gamer so that's how I got into doom.

Dude was a legend.

[violet sundial]

I think it's something about imps screeching through walls

I have surpassed my father

He couldn't handle nightmare

Too busy doing important things like making sure his 3 yo child wasn't terrified of having nightmares about Doom probably

[rocky grove]

Dad decided it was a good idea to start at E4M1 with the walls of fleshy shit. And dad, why why did you do that.

[violet sundial]

I don't even know if there was an e2 yet

[rocky grove]

Because of that he let me play Wolfenstein instead.

[violet sundial]

I know I saw myself descending into a pit of infinite demons

Whom later invaded my playthrough of Baldur's Gate 2 utilizing an apparently very rare bug

[violet sundial]

That's probably the best choice

[rocky grove]

Yeah, I had a blast ngl.

[violet sundial]

Is there a mod for Wolfenstein 3d that let's you scalp your enemies?

[rocky grove]

I think I also remember playing heretic and hexen I believe?

But that was when I was a bit older.

My dad didn't raise me with new titles, he raised me with the classics.

And that is why my dad is a certified Gigachad.

[rocky grove]

I never actually finished heretic and hexen, and I'm planning to get those two and finish them.

[violet sundial]

Same some day

Great dad

[rocky grove]

Man, Doom 1 and Doom 2 are such a blast to play even to this day.

[rocky grove]

Yeah, time to go on an internet dive and find those two wads.

Now, it's time to IDSPISPOPD outta here and use IDKFA to find my killer arsenal of internet diving skills.

[hexed escarp]

im playing map12 for the first time, and idk why people hate it so much

its pretty fun

hmm, as i get further into the level, i start to understand

eh, i still think its a good level

[azure nimbus]

it's not too hard so it's more forgivable, but it has some really strange decisions like the imp room

[dapper flint]

That imp trap is hilarious haha

[azure nimbus]

I like it on NIghtmare solely because you can preempt two traps with prefire bfgs before a teleport.

[hexed escarp]

i hate the chaingunner room

[azure nimbus]

probably the hardest part of the level somehow

[dapper flint]

Maps actually a good time on nightmare

I did it solo net nightmare but I don't remember if it adds anything

[azure nimbus]

spiderdemon

yeah lots of the easier maps are helped on nightmare but geez, map04 and map22 are terrible

[dapper flint]

Map 29 gave me the biggest issue on nightmare for sure

[azure nimbus]

me not realizing to do shorttics for the glide elevated map22 a lot to be fair. Granted that, 29 was comporable to map04 for me in difficulty but at least 29 is kewl

[dapper flint]

Map 29 nightmare completion is still sitting around 0.1 percent. I get messages from people all the time asking me to do that map for them for money

[azure nimbus]

0.1 % for the achievent but the achievement is only on unity and only on coop so it's probably slightly higher if we factored in everyone

[dapper flint]

Not to sure about that. I've talked to alot of people that just loath the map. My friend confused who's a top tier speedrunner being one of them

[azure nimbus]

people off unity don't have an achievement motivation but are dedicated enough to actually download a port

[dapper flint]

Cool fact about the last cyber. You can cheese it by moving around to the right and skipping over the line. So it never rises

[azure nimbus]

I mean --- just run past anyway

[dapper flint]

Last time I did it I was bored and just wanted to have it infight everything that respawned including the caco cloud. It was good times

And those chaingunners

[azure nimbus]

was glad I had practied with saves so I knew to shoot in the CGs' general direction after the final TP

[dapper flint]

One kid offered me 150 bucks haha. Never understood the whole trophy thing

[vast reef]

eviternity is such a fun wad

i love it so much

[dapper flint]

Give map 32 a try

[vast reef]

alright

[dapper flint]

It's my favorite now

[dapper flint]

Map 19 is trash though so you should skip it

[vast reef]

i see i see

thanks

[dapper flint]

No worries

[vast reef]

what do y'all think of that nashmove mod that removed slipperiness in doom movement

i just tried it out and it feels wrong and right at the same time

[royal heron]

LMAO fr? You could make serious bucks if you wanted to

The whole trophy completion thing is probably just for flexing

[dapper flint]

It's not just one guy. It's been alot

Willing to give me money and their psn access codes

For a trophy

[royal heron]

Yeah I saw, which was why I said you could make quite a bit

[dapper flint]

I helped 2 friends out with it but it doesn't feel right. I'd feel horrible for charging and all that

Besides

Why would you want a trophy you didn't earn

Isn't that the point

[gusty falcon]

Love it its useful for playing brutal doom because the imps fire so fast

[azure nimbus]

don't skip the 2nd most memorable map in the megawad please

[dapper flint]

Cancer is also memorable

[azure nimbus]

It would need to be an exceptionally bad level to warrant skipping entirely. Even if it's bad(which it's not), it's still worth trying if you're already playing the mapset

[dapper flint]

Dehydration is one of the worst maps I have ever played in my life

Nothing about it stands out

Nothing

It was rushed and it shows

[azure nimbus]

Use a save after the first Annihilator fight if it's so bad.

[dapper flint]

I don't save

Not anymore anyways

[azure nimbus]

Using a save is more "doing the map" than skipping it

[dapper flint]

The one rising fight with the annihilator is fun I guess. But if you like the map thats fine. But I think it's a pile of dog shit

[azure nimbus]

I do think it's silly to rate it so low as one of the worst you've played. I mean -- TNT. But whatever. My main argument is that even if you don't like a level, it is still a bad idea to suggest that someone else who is playing through the megawad ought to skip it because it is better that they try it: if they end up hating it so much, they can play something else. Why steal the opportunity

[dapper flint]

Well I personally think it's silly ranking eviternity so high in general. But I understand it's high appeal for relatively new doom players

No offense

[azure nimbus]

I did play it relatively early on. Even then, it's a well made mapset: the levels are navigable; they look nice; and it's a good difficulty for people graduating from plutonia. But if the complaint about Eviternity in general is that it's too easy(ie for new players), then Dehydration should be a grade choice as it's one of the harder maps.

It's hard to write off a set that does the Scythe2 5map episode format so well.

[dapper flint]

I wouldn't say harder. I didn't find it hard at all. I just felt it dragged on unnecessarily

But map 32 was perfect for me

But I did it first time gz hahaha

Big mistake

[azure nimbus]

I actually didn't like the end with the one annihlator

[dapper flint]

Because of the lost soul closet

[dapper flint]

Map 32?

[azure nimbus]

the end of map19 with the rising floor

I felt that that section was easy, like 90 % of doing it flawless, but unforgiving because if the annihlator gets you it may very well be gg.

Consistency vs how forgiving it is

[dapper flint]

Ahhh yeah

[dapper flint]

I actually fucked up and had no ammo for the hitscanner archie walls sections

It was a nightmare first time

[azure nimbus]

I farmed the chaingunner by the archvile for a lot of ammo

[dapper flint]

I went into that section super cocky

[azure nimbus]

it's an easy part but ya gotta keep your health up

[dapper flint]

Remember the hitscan teleport section before

I took so many hits there

[frigid wraith]

I haven't played doom 2

I've played doom 1 tho

[young pond]

Doom Ray Traced Mod | E3M2 Slough of Despair https://youtu.be/pKBvdoqTLwA

[cerulean lion]

Does anyone here think Doom 3 should get a remake or remaster?

[gusty falcon]

It already has one

Bfg edition

[cerulean lion]

Oh I didn't know that

Doom 3 I'm unfamiliar with

[cosmic pagoda]

nope, they tried that and ended up with a worse game

made everything look worse and removed the flashlight

and made it even easier

however, speaking of doom3

some guy got it running in webassembly

thats doom3 in your browser

oh removed by bot, well google doom3 webassembly

[cerulean lion]

I think it would be cool to have a modern day Doom 3 that keeps the story intact

Not the bfg edition of doom 3

[cosmic pagoda]

I mean, doom3 is quite modern day, depending who you ask

there's not much to modernize besides graphics, which are quite good as is

or what would you modernize?

[limber mirage]

Make it play like a 2022-2024 game

[cosmic pagoda]

I fail to see too much different, maybe im getting old

[limber mirage]

Which is why a sequel or new game within the same aesthetic would be better than a remaster / remake

[limber mirage]

To be fair doom 3 aged incredibly well

[cosmic pagoda]

gameplay mechanics in the new doom are sure, different, but I dont see how they are more "modern" I think they are completely different games

[limber mirage]

You can tell in the fluidity of the games

The scope of the levels

The size of details

Enemy count

Particle effects

[cosmic pagoda]

yeah thats true, id games have this agelessness about it

[limber mirage]

For instance

[cosmic pagoda]

eh except level scope and enemy counts, those are graphical improvements

and idk if enemy counts would help with it staying doom3, a sequel would work much better as you said

doom3 had this different pace which suited it well

[limber mirage]

Doom 3 is good enough where it doesn’t need to be touched anymore

[cosmic pagoda]

yep

[limber mirage]

Frankly I don’t think any current dooms should be touched

They are all good. And scratch a different itch

[cosmic pagoda]

totally agreed

[limber mirage]

They each serve a different purpose and for this I love the franchise

I would want a doom like doom 3
The horror. The aesthetics, the atmosphere,

But keep more or less the speed of 2016, maybe a little slower

I want to keep the weapons feeling unique, I don’t want an emphasis on quickswapping. Make it possible yes, but don’t make it a reliance, make each weapon useful, but also make them situational, so some weapons are better vs some demons. Or super good ammo is rare etc.

And especially, add a revamped destructible demons mechanic from eternal

[cosmic pagoda]

those carmack doom 3 volumetric shadows still look amazing though

[limber mirage]

Nothing would add the icing on the cake better than the demons literally getting ripped apart from gunfire

[cosmic pagoda]

I think they made the engine

now with raytracing we get something like this provided you gave an arm and a kidney for a capable gpu

[limber mirage]

I like eternal destructible demons system, but I don’t think the game itself

With how it wants you to play

Let’s you really see the destructible, demons in action

[cosmic pagoda]

I liked how 2016 playd more than eternal tbh

[limber mirage]

Agreed

Eternal wants you to kill every demon in 2 seconds or less, which makes the destructible demons part hardly show unless you miss a lot

[cosmic pagoda]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZmQ2pLj3D1Q I remember playing this as a 13 year old(probably judging by when it leaked), scared the pants off me, lol

[limber mirage]

A modern version of a super horror doom would be nice

[vast reef]

yes i use it for brutal doom

[limber mirage]

One can dream anyways

[cosmic pagoda]

the thing with ultra modern horror though.. less graphic fidelity helped older horror games alot

it's why the first 2 silent hills are regarded as the scariest games ever made by many

[limber mirage]

Tru

[violet sundial]

Started e1m3 only to immediately die to the fastest pinkie I have ever seen and imp fireballs flying through walls

IDK what installing DeltaTouch changed but the pinkie is still fast. Better get ready to crack my knuckles

I'm still using the official Bethesda version

[azure nimbus]

e1m3 is super hard on NM. maybe top 5 levels on doom1 nightmare

[violet sundial]

It's like 5x faster than normal lol

[azure nimbus]

older versions of the bfg edition and unity didn't have fast pinkies on nightmare.

[violet sundial]

If this continues , I might have a big problem later lol

[azure nimbus]

the speed doubles from 175 to 350. It's states also have their duration halved

that is to say that it attacks faster

[violet sundial]

I didn't install any wads or addons or anything

The only two things I can think of is DeltaTouch or else the pinkies are absorbing the coffee from Doomguy

#videos

[vast reef]

delta touch shouldn't affect how other sourceports behave

[violet sundial]

Don't even have enough time to swap weapons LOL

[azure nimbus]

if you're on nightmare, they're fast. they're supposed to be

[vast reef]

rip my wifi isn't loading the video

[azure nimbus]

BFG edition and unity not having them is an oversight

[violet sundial]

I'm going to see what happens when I uninstall DeltaTouch

[vast reef]

nothing should

[vast reef]

^

[violet sundial]

They weren't going that fast during the savescum playthrough

[vast reef]

maybe it updated? idk

[violet sundial]

Maybe my phone was going easy on me

[vast reef]

only time i've had nightmare demons stop hyperwaddling was when i tried out some mod mixes

[azure nimbus]

if they're not fast on nightmare, it isn't really nightmare

[violet sundial]

They are still going fast

[azure nimbus]

good

[violet sundial]

Good to know

So on top of save scumming, I was on some sort of nightmare lite

Plus during e1 there weren't any infinitely spawning demons

[azure nimbus]

The pinky has no ranged attack so is otherwise unaffected by -fast, therefore, his boost needs to come from literal speed.

ok how were you on NM without respawning?

[violet sundial]

But e2 there were but the pinkies were still slow

Probably something to do with androidos

[azure nimbus]

pinkies are pretty much the enemy to worry about in doom1.

[violet sundial]

How the heck am I supposed to kill them with a pistol, run the heck out of the room as fast as possible?

That is awesome, because they were legitimately no threat at all before

[vast reef]

actually yeah now that i think about it

[violet sundial]

2-3 shotgun hits and they died

[azure nimbus]

grab the shotgun from one of the shotgunners. either pistol them, let them explode from a barrel, whatever

[violet sundial]

The ministun kept them from hurting me even at close range

[vast reef]

run away

shoot

run away

[azure nimbus]

https://youtu.be/boXSIaiVgVo?t=231 shameless shill for my run of the level lol

[violet sundial]

I had played e1 like a hybrid of cover shooter and regular Doom nightmare

That stopped in e2 when hordes of demons made it impossible to stop moving

Now it's even more so

😍

[azure nimbus]

e2 is mostly easy other than m6 and m7. m5 can be rough at the start but takes just some routing and it's nbd

e2m6 is really up there for one of the hardest levels. It might be the hardest doom1 map outside of e4

[violet sundial]

Ok that's about what I was envisioning for a plan

I'm just a little shook up

[azure nimbus]

basically, if you can do the soulsphere, you win

be careful with the peakaboo as you get in and expect that last shotgunner in the corner. use inf height rockets on the lift and you're good to go. it was first try after getting to the soulsphere. It's doable since it's mostly hard at the start

[violet sundial]

It's going to be a lot more fun than PC because I already forgot the level layouts

[azure nimbus]

no shame in -nomonsters to make sure you have the layout memorized

[violet sundial]

The game is a lot more fun when you can't rely on memory and just your reflexes

[azure nimbus]

Takes both. NM is dum

[violet sundial]

It's a slow crawl and I think it allows for more potential skill growth to just smash your fingers repeatedly

[vast reef]

yes

i love classic doom

[tacit remnant]

Does Evilution have any good deathmatch maps?

[lost thunder]

running through maps on nomo will improve your movement :P

[violet sundial]

Yeah I definitely never beat classic on true nightmare

I managed to kill the spectre and pinkie, aimed for a shotgun guy and died to a bullet in my back from a zombieman

My anxiety is immeasurably worse

[viscid turtle]

try brutal doom mod

[violet sundial]

I think this is the appropriate progression for my skill level

I have it downloaded, just need to download the IDFKA addon and I'm good to go

It seems like the quintessential classic experience in my mind

Combined with ray tracing it seems like it will be great

[viscid turtle]

old doom with rtx :D

[dapper flint]

Doing both doom 93 and 2 nightmare is still my favorite achievement. It was pain but completing was the best feeling I've had

[violet sundial]

I think my bucket list playthrough will be beating it blindfolded

🤣

[viscid turtle]

[violet sundial]

Will need some kind of surround sound probably

And blue light implantation surgery maybe lol

[viscid turtle]

and hd water

[violet sundial]

Okay by technicality a VR headset counts

[cosmic pagoda]

oh damn e2m7, hadnt even remembered this one, those pinky rooms must be brutal

also just beat e3m1 on NM

close call

wanted to take a vid to show my friend how hard it is

as my luck is, trying to show me fail, actually made me win

I am not trying for speed https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SSFwmy1YHPM

[azure nimbus]

"not going for speed" -> saves 0.1 s by skipping the medikit

[cosmic pagoda]

LOL

in the heat of the moment I thought I was saving my ass because I was afraid getting hit by a caco or an imp ball

time to look at how people route e3m2

[azure nimbus]

I take the left side. The plasma, megaarmor, and berserk are all over there. Then I go far right for the chaingun, then to the maze thing with the soulsphere, then exit. But it's easy enough that you have freedom

[cosmic pagoda]

hmm, to think about it, theres no choke points so I see why people consider it as easy

[violet sundial]

Yeah, after taking the right side multiple times, I looked at the dead carcass by the door and thought to myself, "Oh." Then I took the left side and killed those effers in a few tries

Is it okay to say effer if it's not vitriol targeted at a group member other than Doom demons

Do I need to install both Doom I and II to install Brutal Doom?

[vast reef]

the only reason i play brutal doom is because on black metal with some movement mods it can be very fun

but imo it's not that interesting of a mod

i love the gore effects

the new monster behavior is cool

but the gameplay tends to just be vanilla doom except you take more cover

[violet sundial]

#classic-doom-maps-mods Does this look right?

The IDFKA wad file is in the Skins folder

[vast reef]

project brutality though with its 33 weapons and 65 monster variants

[violet sundial]

How do I verify my license

Can I verify my license without owning D2 if I make a double pinky promise not to play it until I buy it

I will accept death by double pinky as punishment for pact betrayal

[vast reef]

and its like 100 other features

i find it interesting but idk how to get it running (i get an error whenever i run it)

[violet sundial]

Oh, I have to unpack the .pk3

Er wait

[finite crag]

Just beat doom 1 while my mom was watching and apparently killing mass hordes of demons with a gun called the big fucking gun 9000 is okay but a drawing of a dead bunny is too much for her

[gusty falcon]

You're talking about Delta touch correct you need to buy it off of the play store

[violet sundial]

Yes

I bought Delta Touch and Doom 1 on the play store

Am I out of luck until I own doom 2

[gusty falcon]

No

The licence should be verified just by buying Delta itself

You can uninstal the mobile Port of doom 1 it won't help you run Delta

Use the app to download free doom and hit play atleast once

[gusty falcon]

The only way to run doom 1 and 2 with Delta Is to get the wad files from the PC version

[violet sundial]

I have the doom ultimate and Doom 2 wads

The brutal doom .pk3 is in the mod folder

[gusty falcon]

Good just put them into the open touch Delta folder

[violet sundial]

The IDFKA wad is in the skin folder

[gusty falcon]

You pretty much have everything where it's supposed to be then

Since you brought it the licence check should only show up once and then never again

[dapper flint]

Right...

[violet sundial]

Do I have to set up an arg? What is an arg?

[pure relic]

I'm after a good round of doom II's add-ons

[violet sundial]

I think I got it finally

I found a tutorial

All my energy is focused on preparing for doom

I can't computer

Black Metal is harder than Nightmare?

Ok now I just have to figure out the skin thing

I'm daft a f

[hexed cipher]

[violet sundial]

Yep, I can't figure out how to get the IDFKA album to work

[gusty falcon]

Are you selecting it in the mod loader

Because that's all you need to do

[finite crag]

turbo pinkies

[violet sundial]

I don't see it in the mod loader

[gusty falcon]

Move it to the "mods" folder

And it will show up

[vast reef]

imo no

just think of it as uv-fast except it's uv-faster

[hexed escarp]

Is there somewhere where I can find all of the original dosbox exes for the various dooms all in one place

[violet sundial]

Ok thanks for the tip

Ok I was able to load the wad, but the music isn't playing. The readme says it doesn't matter where the .flacs or .mp3s are, but I might guess that applies to PC? If so, where should I place them? In my music folder or somewhere in the DeltaTouch folder?

Is there a sound option that needs to be adjusted?

[gusty falcon]

No you have the wrong version

[violet sundial]

The wrong version of Doom?

I have Ultimate Doom but I'd prefer Doom 1 since that's the version I own

[gusty falcon]

No the wrong version of the music pack That version is for listening to on an audio player

You need to get the wad only version

That's the version that's for the game

[violet sundial]

If you'd be so kind, could you direct me to a link?

I am hype right now

[gusty falcon]

https://www.moddb.com/downloads/idkfa-soundtrack-wad-only-version

@violet sundial

[violet sundial]

Thank you so much I was just chatting with a friend

[violet sundial]

Color me shocked to discover that I'm better at Doom when it's night with heavy metal

I just beat e1 m1 and 2 in about 10% of the time it took previously

Also, I gave up and downloaded vlc to play the music in the background while playing classic

Real boomer hours

[low dragon]

He be living in 1994 💀

[novel quail]

Someone knows a mod for doom to can select the mission that you want?

[low dragon]

Theres a cheat code for that

Iirc

[novel quail]

Ok, thanks

[pure relic]

what's your opinion on doom psx version?

[cosmic pagoda]

what source port are you using?

usually its something like sourceport_executable -iwad /path/to/iwad.wad -file /path/to/optional_pwad.wad /path/to/wad_with_music.wad

if yours has a gui lancher, just point to the music pwad there

[azure nimbus]

people who know how to mess about with commands and files are interdimmensional beings

[azure nimbus]

I have written notes on the last stardate level. inshallah, we can do it soon(well lots of work this week)

[static finch]

does this channel include doom 2

[azure nimbus]

yes. Discussion on mods(more often than not, pwads rather than huge overhauls but either is fine) is also found here

[echo tartan]

all classic doom things

I think doom 64 can be considered as classic too no?

[static finch]

nah theres a separate channel for that

[vast reef]

yeah but it's a bit too different

[echo tartan]

doom 64 is maybe my fav out of all the classics

[pure relic]

it's so viby, I love it

[echo tartan]

yeahhhhh this is why I love it

it just looks magical in some way

but the background sounds...

they ruin it

for me at least

[pure relic]

you mean the soundtrack or the sounds of buttons/doors/monsters?

[echo tartan]

The soundtrack... It's just that there's no music at all

[sand grotto]

Hi, i m new here, and have a little question, if i want to play classic-doom, where shall i do it? I have thought to buy it on steam, or better search for a ROM?

[tacit remnant]

Steam

[young pond]

DOOM Ray Traced Mod | E3M3 Pandemonium https://youtu.be/hl1HQeukHl0

[hexed escarp]

are the events of doom 2 canon to doom eternal?

[jolly lantern]

Im pretty sure doom 1 2 and 64 are canon

[sand grotto]

Thanks

[dapper flint]

They are

[azure nimbus]

stardate20x6 done. Got it second try today

[dapper flint]

Well done.

[gusty falcon]

You didn't get the file from link I gave?

After getting that file all you needed to do was select it in the mod leader once of was in the mods folder

[vocal summit]

there's one that's better though

that has doom 2, final doom and ultimate doom osts

[gusty falcon]

I know but for Andrew hulshalts tracks they're not yet complete

@vocal summit

Only the doom 1 ones are

Trying to make things simple

[vocal summit]

its not only andrew hulshult versions though

its from various creators

[gusty falcon]

I know I have the others but idkfa is the one this guy wants so it's what I gave him

[vast reef]

zandronum?

[compact plinth]

I got doom 2 in doom eternal so I’m qualified for this chat

Working on getting doom 1

Unfortunately I can’t get mods on it…….yet

[vast reef]

use gzdoom

or are you on console

even if you are, most laptops should be able to run gzdoom or lzdoom

and if you have a phone you can use delta touch

[spiral flower]

Can someone help me with modding in gzdoom? It's my first time modding anything and I've no idea what I need to do

[vast reef]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=34HfmGvUJIM

[spiral flower]

Okay I'm going to watch it again to see if there's anything I'm doing wrong, I'm specifically trying to get Brutal Doom to work

[vast reef]

do you intend to get indo doom modding

IcarusLIVES has a lot of great recommendations

[spiral flower]

I'll check em out :> I think doom modding looks fun to do, and I am interested in it

From that video they seem pretty chill, and they're easy to listen to

[vast reef]

i'd prefer odamex but it doesn't have mouselook

are we gonna play modded or nah

same

alright

tomorrow sadly

still tons of assignments rn

it's 3:48 pm here rn

give a time

oh i see

yep

that works

you'll probably host since my pc has 2gb ram

[young pond]

DOOM Ray Traced Mod | E3M4 House of Pain https://youtu.be/xy7LGOVopPs

[torn pivot]

All Original Doom boxes, Bought them new in the 90’s
https://youtube.com/shorts/Gz-_8S1-QXA?feature=share

[unique shoal]

Are caco demons meatballs or barries

[quasi rose]

meatballs

[azure nimbus]

Usually I hear berries, tomatos, whatever(something red) for caco and meatball for pains

[pallid sluice]

hello! does anyone know how to play doom 2 co op on pc?

like how can my friends join me?

[vast reef]

odamex or zandronum

then doomseeker

[proud pilot]

can't you also use the console in gzdoom

[pearl osprey]

You can but that requires connecting to the same network or port forwarding

[slim willow]

[dapper flint]

Still have mine too. Need to find thy flesh

[tacit remnant]

Finally made it to Monster Condo in my first Doom 2 UV playthrough. It’s much bigger and more combat heavy than I remembered

[azure nimbus]

monster condo makes me cry with that broken secret

[dapper flint]

Arch exit

[azure nimbus]

Barney bullied dime

[wise notch]

Yo does anybody know what is the first instrument that appears at the beggining of tower of babel in the doom soundfont?

[muted mica]

Hello

Do I need a really good pc to run gzdoom?

[dapper flint]

No not really

[muted mica]

Well gzdoom crashes every time I launch the wad

[azure nimbus]

is it lilith or heartland? Otherwise, gzdoom runs pretty much whatever

[muted mica]

Well it's just ultimate doom

[pearl osprey]

You can try LZDoom or the much older ZDoom if you want to play doom with nontraditional gameplay mods

Otherwise if you want to play normal doom or with mapsets you can use dsda-doom or crispy doom, non ZDoom source ports can run on a potato

[muted mica]

but what about gzdoom?

I was thinking about modding too

[muted mica]

what are its requirements?

[wise notch]

maybe you've got a broken wad idk

try running it with something else like crispy doom or chocolate doom

and see if that works

[wise notch]

or prboom+

[pearl osprey]

The only requirement is a graphics card which supports OpenGL 3.3 or higher

For reference OpenGL 3.3 was released in 2010, so unless you have an ancient computer it should run

[swift vapor]

i got a question

should i buy doom 2?

is it worth £3?

[finite crag]

yes.

[dapper flint]

It's worth more

[swift vapor]

well for me its £3

[dapper flint]

That's not exactly what I mean

[swift vapor]

o

ohhhhh

you mean its worth more than 3 quid

as in the gameplay

yeah that makes more sense now

[dapper flint]

Definitely!

[young pond]

DOOM Ray Traced Mod | E3M5 Unholy Cathedral
https://youtu.be/igfI_KpNwFA

[cerulean lion]

Small brain moment but I didn't know Doom 1 had 3 dlcs and like 5 or 6 different fan made levels in it

That's a lot of content for me to get through 😰

[tacit remnant]

That stuff wasn’t in previous ports

Also those are full fanmade campaigns

So WAY more content

[lost thunder]

only the tip of the iceberg for the amount of things you have to play for doom

a near infinite content well :P

[dapper flint]

Made the map less shit lol

[tacit remnant]

Yup. The officially included addons don’t include Hell Revealed, or Eviternity, or Scythe and Scythe 2, or The Community Chest series, and that’s just some highlights

And I just realized I listed 3 of the most brutal mapsets for Doom ever made

[solid crest]

I really want to make classic doom mods and I have no idea how to and no google searches have gotten me anywhere are there any tutorials to watch to make classic doom mods.

[azure nimbus]

https://www.youtube.com/c/Chubzdoomer he has some stuff. I never made maps, but this is the closest that I've found to a tutorial

[warped jungle]

I'm shocked they didn't go for more classic wads like alien vendetta or hell even memento mori

Then again it would probably be way harder to contact all the people who worked on those

That's the main restraint with the official addons

[tacit remnant]

That makes sense

Also I think they intentionally avoided the really tough ones to not crush casual players. Which kinda makes sense as those are often ridiculous

[vivid vine]

Hell Revealed gets dumb

Author said he thought shotgunning barons was a highlight of Doom and so he makes you do that and uses Barons like they're Hell Knights

[vast reef]

when i encountered that baron in episode 2 with nothing but a shotgun it felt like a mini-boss ngl

but using barons like they're hell knights is dumb

[lost thunder]

this is the reason the selection will almost always be wads from the 2010s onwards

a lot of older pwads even have contributions from members who are now no longer living, which makes obtaining permission impossible

[past field]

What do you mean by “3 dlcs”?

The only new content it got ever was just thy flesh consumed for ultimate doom and E1M10 for the Xbox version

Doom 2 was the game that got 3 dlcs (although it wasnt really “downloadable”, since online payment didnt exist at the time, so they where all physical), those being no rest for the living, final doom, and master levels for doom 2

[gusty falcon]

no rest for the living isn't really fan made final doom is

and the master levels are as well

pretty sure no rest for the living was made by people who worked with id to port the game to xbox

[finite crag]

it was

doom 1 and 2 were my favourites, especially liked Inferno from classic and Hell on earth from doom 2

[muted mica]

Well Ive that

but it still crashes

[pearl osprey]

Try reinstalling the latest version

If it doesn't work try LZDoom it's basically GZDoom but lighter

[young pond]

I’ve always liked that map. Mainly due to the Midi, I think. Gameplay is ok but the teleports can be confusing lol

[pure relic]

good taste

I need to beat doom 1 in under 2h to get a trophy

sad we don't have a super shotgun in 1st doom

[tacit remnant]

Eh it would be completely broken in Doom 1. It works in Doom 2 because most of Doom 2’s new demons are beefier than most of the Doom 1 demons and it uses the beefy bois much more often

[azure nimbus]

pinky placement is balanced around the sg, right

[warped jungle]

I don't like most of inferno but Mount Erebus makes it worth it

I should rephrase, I don't dislike inferno

I just find more enjoyment out of the other episodes

[azure nimbus]

inferno like...doesn't have monsters

[vast reef]

lmfao yeah

[dapper flint]

Especially on nightmare

Fucking pinkies coming back

[azure nimbus]

Nightmare, by actually being a challenge for that weird level, does at least force you to learn how the TPs work which is...something

[vocal summit]

yup, nerve software

where did the name NERVE.WAD come from?

was it just named that in the files?

[gusty falcon]

Nerve software

[royal heron]

Nerve Software, from the people who made it

[vocal summit]

i know

[cerulean lion]

I mean Sigil, Tnt: Evilution and Plutonia experiment I didn't know that was included in doom 1

[molten iron]

None of those are DLCs
TNT and Plutonia are two mods published by id software as separate games
Sigil is an unofficial mod made by Romero

The closest we have a to DLC in doom is episode 4 imo

But this term doesnt really apply very well to Doom

[dapper flint]

Yeah thy flesh fits that I guess

[cerulean lion]

To say I love doom I don't know much about it

[dapper flint]

Was the first doom game you played eternal ?

[young pond]

Haha true

[azure nimbus]

shareware doom is dlc

[young pond]

DOOM Ray Traced Mod | E3M6 Mt. Erebus https://youtu.be/KvUvbQFBgdg

[finite kestrel]

any mappers can help me out with scroll_ceiling script? I don't understand how to set the scroll speed

[cerulean lion]

My first Doom game was Doom 2016 but didn't enjoy it haven't played it since

[dapper flint]

Press x

Sorry

[tacit remnant]

My first Doom game was the Switch port of Doom 1. I have since played every official Doom game

[cerulean lion]

And I got into Doom when funnily enough I discovered Zero masters youtube and his Doom speedruns

After watching a few I decided to play the 1st Doom game when it came out for switch in 2019 I believe

[dense remnant]

what's the difference

[molten iron]

The hell knight (the bottom one) has half the health of the baron of hell (the top one)

[autumn marsh]

Hello

[grand canyon]

Odd question but does classic doom mean DOOM and DOOM II or just the first one?

[molten iron]

Both

[pure relic]

yeah, just the pixel guys from 93 and 95

[grand canyon]

Ok thanks

[pure relic]

they're both similar so

[molten iron]

Doom 2 is basically the same game as Doom 1, but with new enemies, weapon and levels

[autumn marsh]

I wish there was a way where doom 1 and doom 2 was online tho

[grand canyon]

That be really cool actually

[molten iron]

Zandronum / Odamex

[autumn marsh]

If those are for pc i cant im on xbox

[grand canyon]

Same

[autumn marsh]

Cool

[azure nimbus]

mods too

[grand canyon]

Oh ok thanks

[azure nimbus]

I can't recommend enough that getting your hands on the pc version is a really good idea. Mods are a huge part of classic doom. One of the richest modding histories of any game -- and you have more control over game settings on pc

[dense remnant]

does any one want to play doom eternal on Xbox?(I'm BORED)

[azure nimbus]

wrong channel and server. spicy demons or the private BM xbox server for that

[unreal pike]

https://github.com/xoreaxeaxeax/movfuscator/tree/master/validation/doom anyone know this?

[hexed escarp]

Has anybody ever tried training an ai on all of the doom and doom 2 midis to generate original doom midis?

I’d reckon that that would work fairly well, that’s over 2 hours of midi data

[vast reef]

genius

[cosmic pagoda]

yeah watched his talk

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HlUe0TUHOIc

[young pond]

DOOM Ray Traced Mod | E3M9 Warrens https://youtu.be/zkW3VMbdrp0

[finite crag]

Why don’t we call it doom 93 ?

[lost thunder]

because it was the first doom lol

it'd be like referring to super mario brothers as super mario brothers 85