classic-doom

[scarlet compass]

I thought you were still on the website

[brisk burrow]

i already installed and allowed to make changes to device

i just dont know what files to accociate with it

[scarlet compass]

well, .RAR files I guess

[brisk burrow]

just unclick all the other one what else do i need WINRAR for

[scarlet compass]

At the moment, nothing

[brisk burrow]

i am gonna try it with brutal doom

ok it worked thx

[scarlet compass]

np

[vast reef]

7-zip is better

[scarlet compass]

any good maps

[vast reef]

italo-doom

i tried it

it's really fun

[scarlet compass]

is it just a map or does it add stuff too

[vast reef]

just a mapset

[scarlet compass]

ok, i'll try it

thanks

[jade flare]

Earthless Prelude has been beaten. Took a sample of Syringe and my god it's another plutonia offspring

It's mind blowing how these made it to consoles.

Let alone approved.

Lesson learned. If a wad contains fewer levels, it's gonna be like being inside a broiling hot bath tub.

I'll play through them later. I gotta cool down before my headache gets worst.

[dapper flint]

[vast reef]

[dapper flint]

Yeah syringe is okay

[sullen spruce]

Not bad.

#resolutionfixwhen?

[safe moon]

i love wads with fewer levels tbh, makes it so that the pacing of the entire wad wouldn't be a drag

i think 20 map wads is the golden number tbh

[dapper flint]

Go on my page in the group I'm doing a playthough of it. Almost done I think

[edgy drum]

Rocketjump video is up. Let me know what you think!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QfYoztSMdRE

[safe moon]

anyways imma go look up that wad rn

[royal heron]

dude you're evil

I like it

[safe moon]

oh so its another really hard wad?

ok then, imma recommend going down to any newcomers from now on

[royal heron]

Hard doesn't even begin to describe it lol

It's the second hardest WAD, underneath Dimensions

[prime lava]

should probably continue italo-doom

got lazy xd

[sonic thorn]

You will die of old age on this hill

[royal heron]

^

[sonic thorn]

Unity port getting fixed will happen after the sun explodes

[steel lion]

can someone send me the prboom+ wad?

i deleted it by accident and i need it for running it

[pearl osprey]

Just reinstall prboom+

Or better yet get dsda doom, it's a newer fork of prboom+

[steel lion]

oh ok

[cosmic pagoda]

going down is infinitely more approachable to some of the hard ones like sunlust

its also not very slaughtery

[royal heron]

I don't know if this is a clever joke or not but if it was then good job

Since the Sun can't explode

Which means unity will never get a resolution fix

Fyi, Sun can't explode since it's not big enough

Iirc it's just gonna collapse into a dwarf star

[safe moon]

but it is a ballbuster

its just sheer absurdity

[dapper flint]

I don't know. Going down seems pretty balanced I wouldn't say its a ball buster. I've seen worse

[safe moon]

no i mean ball buster in terms of how funny it is

[dapper flint]

Ah gotcha

[civic seal]

I know this is old news, but I just found out about brutal doom. That shit looks so awesome

[finite crag]

I remember going to computer shows and getting cds with tons of wad files for Doom 👀 Don’t ask me my age. 😐

[civic seal]

I haven't played doom 1 or 2 yet, just gonna play with BD mod

[dapper flint]

I feel you

[finite crag]

There’s good memories. Those coaxial network cables, and having parties with beer — real life

[dapper flint]

Used to have to break into my bros room when he wasn't home to play doom one of the reasons why I learned not to save haha

[finite crag]

Sounds like fun though

[dapper flint]

Playing with him was good memories too

[finite crag]

Computer stuff had a novelty back then … not so much now, at least for me.

[civic seal]

Yea less and less disc drives these days

[dapper flint]

I still have my old tower in the garage. I remember getting it just to run doom 3

[finite crag]

Good times

Was it Doom 2? I think you could play over modem with a friend. Amazing.

[dapper flint]

Yep!

[jade flare]

Agreed.

[civic seal]

What are the most favored mods?

[dapper flint]

I've been playing around with Nash gore and blood fixer lately. Nothing toooo extreme

[civic seal]

I see, that one looks fun. Can't wait to get into to these mods

[stray lance]

Hello

[civic seal]

Hi solaire

[dapper flint]

Oh and metadoom

[atomic dust]

why so many people hate the nirvana map?

It’s actually good imo

[royal heron]

EOA, EOAE, Abort, Russian Overkill, Corruption Cards, Bite Sized Threat

[vivid vine]

Nirvana isn't Habitat. It has that going for it.

[civic seal]

Thanks for the reply, those are insane especially EOA. Didn't know the doom mod iceberg went this deep

[royal heron]

Yeah EOA and EOAE are fun

Pretty accurate representations of both 2016 and Eternal

[finite crag]

Am I the only one who thinks that DOOM 1993 is still fun?

[pearl osprey]

no, there is an entire community built around classic doom

[finite crag]

Nice

[dapper flint]

Lol

[vivid vine]

The levels really dont do it for me these days

Too many times

[dapper flint]

Meta spices it up

[vivid vine]

Meta for best

[jade flare]

My hot take: Plutonia>Syringe

[dapper flint]

As someone who's doing a syringe playthrough right now plutonia is better. Definitely easier though syringe has a good midi. But I dont see myself playing syringe again unlike plutonia

[mighty pumice]

I like TC mods

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FZtbz1ncnrk

Really hyped for supplice whenever that comes out

[civic seal]

Insane

[jade flare]

Thank you! I couldn't even play this on switch.

[dull snow]

Supplice is technically stand alone, not TC

[solar jackal]

hi , is there a console command in unity doom classic version ? Thx !

[vast reef]

imo project brutality's better but it uses up more resources than brutal doom and also happens to be 300 mb in size

another really really good mod is quake champions: doom edition

demonsteele and high noon drifter too

[safe moon]

in the discord doe has a slightly more compressed version at around 250mb i think

[vast reef]

oh, nice

[safe moon]

oh nvm its 216mb

also i recommend checking out "brutal respiratory" website for project brutality add-ons

also get the gearbox addon mod where it gives you a weapon wheel (ur gonna wanna adjust the settings doe) cuz project brutality just has soo many weapons lol

i recommend the glory kill addon btw

exclusive to brutal respiratory

[orchid raft]

can you mod doom 1 and 2 if they were included in doom 3 : bfg edition?

or is that just not possible

[vast reef]

download gzdoom and put the wad files in a folder that it can access (i usually make a sub folder in the gzdoom folder and put the wads there)

[orchid raft]

ah so its very possible to individually mod og doom and doom 2?

[torn pivot]

Final Doom - Tnt: Evilution Map 32: Caribbean (Secret Level) (UV-100%) [Crispy Doom] w/Commentary
https://youtu.be/RWGVik7JLWY

[vast reef]

most mods run on gzdoom, which is a modern doom engine that runs on openGL and has a ton of features

you just need to let it access the doom and doom 2 wad files (a wad file is where all the game's data is stored)

[pearl osprey]

Yes doom 1 and 2 can be individually modded

[azure nimbus]

Wonder why spiderdemon has blast damage resistance. She doesn't shoot rockets so doesn't need it really.

[vivid vine]

She's supposed to be a boss and is already weaker than the cyberdemon and a gigantic target rockets cant possibly miss

[azure nimbus]

my guess is that they copied the cyberdemon's base build and then modified it so it's a holdover. Other evidence being the boss death behavior in old doom versions on e2m8 and e3m8 where either of their deaths ends the level

[azure nimbus]

They are a really unique monster. They are super likely to trigger and get rekt by infighting. it's a large monster that is also hitscan. It has the chaingunner type AI where it'll continue firing constantly. I had just played Speed of Doom map32 and it ends with a spiderdemon on a huge pyramid and then you get archviles to be distracted. No other monster would work in that role. The chaingunner type AI is needed as is hitscan to engage in the initial infight and the high health + blast protection is needed to keep it from instadying to a dozen arches

[dapper flint]

Actually really love this map

Caribbean is really fun

[torn pivot]

It is

[dapper flint]

Spider can also be used in really well way if the mapper knows what he or she is doing. Alot more effective at getting multiple monsters agro and infight when you're in a tough spot

[vivid vine]

And the meme way of killing her doesnt always work if you pistol start like you're supposed to

That said E3M8 is still an awful arena for one because you can get so far away the shots have no chance of hitting you and she's still a massive target

[azure nimbus]

Map 31 had a bunch too. one forces you to run away. It's unrealistic to fight so early. Another is a complete joke 1v1 against bfg. And a bunch of the others are in-fight food

[dapper flint]

Doing the last map of syringe right now. The last fight is 2 spiders and 2 cybers and barons that pop up while you're stuck in a small box. You need to move in this small space while barons shoot at you and move closer. You need to get the spiders to hit them and it's a really good fight and a nice way to use them

[azure nimbus]

sounds like bullying. I had tried syringe and got too lost to continue in the first couple maps. Maybe I should revisit it.

[vivid vine]

Plutonia Revisited

[azure nimbus]

plutonia 2, plutonia revisited, plutonia 3(?),... too many of those

[vivid vine]

You dont want Plutonia 3

Not until the real one is done

What is out as Plutonia 3 now is an awful collection of maps using the name to trick people

Not hyperbole. Some guy made a bunch of awful maps and called it Plutonia 3.

Also it's more like not enough

Would love me an Alien Vendetta 2

[halcyon willow]

the current plutonia 3 is indeed a meme

it's pretty funny in coop

[finite storm]

im super excited for back to saturn x episode 3

looks very purple and cool

[azure nimbus]

Is the updated version of the last btsxe2 map out yet

[finite storm]

id assume so since btsx3 is being actively worked on? I played the whole thing and it didnt seem unfinished

[azure nimbus]

I accidentally went into the wrong exit (from map15) and reloaded a save instead of restarting the whole level. committed sin

[finite crag]

Lol.

[azure nimbus]

I blame josh sealy for putting the door for secret exist right next to the regular exit button

[finite crag]

Lol.

[atomic dust]

should I play the master levels for Doom II?

[royal heron]

absolutely not

they're shit

[atomic dust]

for a set of levels that are called ‘’Master Level’’ they are jokes in comparison to today’s custom Doom maps

[royal heron]

i mean, it was made in 1990s after all

[atomic dust]

and for some reason id is still selling both Master Levels and Final Doom on steam even though they are included in the unity version of Doom II

[azure nimbus]

The only reason to get them is as a historical artifact. As actual levels, idk some of them are ok deathmatch maps

[pulsar jackal]

Get The Lexicon, that's a real set of master levels right there

[orchid epoch]

Quick question - how in the actual hell do you kill the spider demon thing

I tried 15 times

and died every single on of them

[finite crag]

Lol.

[orchid epoch]

that thing is very annoying

[finite crag]

Ok.

[royal heron]

Shoot her until she dies

Grab the rocket launcher and the plasma gun as well as the armor from the middle, and grab ammo from the border of the arena and keep shooting at her

[pearl basin]

The Rocket Launcher does shit against her

Use the plasma rifle

[royal heron]

You won't have enough cells, however

Or unless I'm remembering things wrong and there's enough cells scattered around the border of the arena

[pearl basin]

There is

Just focus on the spider master mind

[azure nimbus]

that's an arachnotron

[pearl basin]

I know

[orchid epoch]

ah well, that makes sense

[royal heron]

There is not

just tested, you only get 100 cells in total scouring the entire arena

you need a few rockets to finish her off

[dapper flint]

Oh mama

[finite crag]

epok doom

this is best doom

[vocal jetty]

i just beat doom 1 without dying on UV

very proud of myself

[civic seal]

Nice

[royal heron]

Nic

[steel lion]

hey

in brutal doom do the PE's when they do damage?

[gusty falcon]

PE's?

Oh pain elementals do what

[steel lion]

when i kill a pe i get close to them (cause of a mechanic of classic doom) and i recieve damage

the mechanic or bug is that, you can kill the lost souls by getting close to them

[pulsar jackal]

the above discussion is a certified "get off my lawn moment"

[steel lion]

cool

[steel lion]

now try to beat nightmare

or uvfast

[vocal jetty]

You have to actually be insane to try deathless nightmare

[steel lion]

ohh

i thought you meant a normal uv

[vocal jetty]

Nah, i did it without dying lol

[steel lion]

you are really good boi

[vocal jetty]

Took me like 3 days to complete

[steel lion]

it cost me a lot to beat that in hmp dying a lot included

[river wadi]

now beat nightmare with no damage and 100% secrets and you dont have to damage a single monster

[vocal jetty]

im doing doom 2 UV deathless

[vocal jetty]

nvm maybe i'll try again tomorrow

[wild nebula]

Something coming out of the portals (That they were messing with)

[royal heron]

They still originally had soldiers in the base

probably there bc probation

They were there from probation

trouble with the military

since hey there was a mars base, why not stick them there and forget about them

that's how doomguy ended up there

[finite crag]

[vast reef]

in nightmare is killing enemies even worth it

[dapper flint]

No only if they are in the way

[quick lark]

[safe moon]

yknow what doom wads needs more of, barrels

[finite crag]

Yes.

[fast mortar]

We need a wad that replaces doom enemies with barrels

[vast reef]

might actually do this since it's not that hard

[pearl basin]

Every object is a lamp

[onyx crow]

not hard as fuck

[slim willow]

wad where all 32 maps use the barrel gimmick from map 23

[mental knoll]

an abstract kind of hell

[finite crag]

Lol.

[pearl basin]

Master Level Barrels o Fun

[finite crag]

Ye.

[vocal jetty]

I'm trying to do doom 2 deathless UV, and some tries i can't even get past map02

why is this so hard

[finite crag]

Lol. Idk.

[royal heron]

just peek and shoot lol

don't just rush headfirst

manage your guns and ammo well

and know when to use the proper guns

[azure nimbus]

speed of doom had such an epic map 20 but then 21 is a ruuude tyson map.

just noticed that heartland's intermission screen is not before map07. Eternity engine must allow for magic

[royal heron]

for example, if you have a single imp in front of you, it's better to kill it with the pistol or chaingun rather than the shotgun

save the shotgun shells for tankier enemies that you may encounter later on

[azure nimbus]

Shotgun is good for a single imp. I'd actually say that shotgun is better then. Of course it depends on whether you get an ssg later, in which case I hesitate to use the base shotgun to save shells. But granted that you either don't or that's a while off, shotgun blasts are almost perfect for imps and the weapon is relatively weak compared to chaingun so better against a low scare threat like one imp

[royal heron]

this is probably just my resource management talking though, been playing a few maps with a mod that starves you of ammo

I still generally like to use bullets for weak enemies like ims and below rather than shotgun

[azure nimbus]

Given that ssg exists, it's better to avoid using shotgun when possible since shotgun is inefficient but a bullet is a bullet no matter pistol or chaingun. That's how I decide whether to use shotgun or chaingun. As in I try using the least powerful weapon for ammo conservation. pistol < shotgun < chaingun < ssg < rockets/plasma it depends, usually plasma better < bfg.

so do we treat shells as more or less valuable than chaingun? It depends

[vivid vine]

Pistol starting really ramps up the value of the chaingun to me

The things you would problem solve better with usually arent there and it sometimes becomes your best option after going without

But man, it should always have been as fast as it is in Doom 64

[azure nimbus]

pistol starting also gives an extra 50 bullets every level which helps

[vivid vine]

64 makes it 50rpm faster and you feel that

[azure nimbus]

chaingun and plasma are weapons that I seriously undervalued. The dps + pain chance is great. not to mention the chaingun range

[vivid vine]

The plasma gun is the fastest firing weapon in the game by far and projectiles have infinite range

Hitscan weapons have a range of I think 2048 units if not merely 1024

[azure nimbus]

I'd have to check some decino vids but I think it's 1024 for you and 2048 for monsters

[dapper flint]

It's very effective against revs especially if you get a wall angle

[azure nimbus]

you're right. 2048

[dapper flint]

https://youtu.be/ta7MXz9IJ2A

[azure nimbus]

anyone played speed of doom and have a good plan for map23, poison ivy II?

[woeful crescent]

Is Speed of DOOM a WAD?

[azure nimbus]

It's a PWAD for boom made by Joshy and Darkwave. I would say somewhat above Alien Vendetta difficulty with usually short maps. Somewhere between "speedmapping" and a big map. Joshy likes tight spaces and despises ammo. Darkwave likes lushly detailed natural environments and secrets. So far it's quite good.

The only way I made any progress (using saves for a practice run here) was to grab the ssg, then a rad suit and make stuff infight the spiderdemon. Then after it dies, open the archvile door and stay on that side. Kill it and take his bfg then work on the other side for the medikit. Grab the bfg and slowly work your way back to clear stuff out. After taking yellow key, everything else is clear: BFG

[marble kraken]

Get ready for the hell invasion

Doom 1 takes place in 2022

[limpid zinc]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/770838419382337567/937521608732602368/L5bI8Dah.jpg

[dapper flint]

Doing gods work

[azure nimbus]

not to be a dork and reply to myself but that method worked for a saveless poison ivy II run.

[marble kraken]

So I was told a lie this whole time?

[finite crag]

So I was told a lie for decades

[safe moon]

yknow map02 is infamously one of those maps thats really hard to do a pacifist run with

anyways, im never doing any deathless runs lol

[steel lion]

wait,that does mean that i cant have a bfg9000 this year?

sad doomguy noises

[deep bough]

dead chat

[slim willow]

xd

[warm ferry]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/419254853731090434/937673439299379230/doomplutoniarage.mp4

[past field]

Cant wait for him to play slaughterfest 2011

[past field]

Also my doom 2 (1994) for PS4 digital edition is acting funny

So I beat map20, and I didnt got the trophy

[safe moon]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/314489273153749013/937700193112031273/unknown.png

man simple things like this makes doom feel more vertical

like i somehow never thought of it before, but it works so well here

[past field]

So I now got the trophy when beating map12-map15 via level select

I think I didnt got the trophy because I went to the wolfenstein level in my first playthrough on PS4?

[plush condor]

and thats why i never finished or wanted to finish the plutonia wad

id rather have doot closets than snipping chaingunners

[plush condor]

what wad is this?

[past field]

Im pretty sure its BTSX 2

[safe moon]

ye its dat

[vast reef]

using GZDoom?

AO looks great

[safe moon]

i didnt like this map

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/454345257027502082/937729815606349835/unknown.png

[safe moon]

also ye, i was using nugget doom before but i just really needed that fov change

[vast reef]

i can't even find the fov change

[safe moon]

plus theres a mod that makes it look more classic anyways so blegh

[vast reef]

i think i just need to update

[safe moon]

it wasnt in the options till 4.7 but yeah, just type "fov (value)"

in the consoles

[vast reef]

4.7 is a thing already??

[safe moon]

4.7.1 rn

[vast reef]

i see

i'm going to update

[safe moon]

also the post processing effects in gzdoom are great, theyre like applied very tastefully

[finite storm]

any slightly lesser known good megawads or kinda big wads i should play? like 10-32 levels

running out of wads but i cant get enough doom

[royal heron]

Hm

[safe moon]

Maybe try out auger zenith, dunno how lesser known that is doe

[finite storm]

I actually just finished it! It was really good apart from like map12 or something

[finite crag]

yeah map 12 was

[safe moon]

oh yeah that one's out of place, i think its in a community megawad also or smthn but yeah trippy

augzen as a whole just feels challenging enough while also being so calming to play in, i love it

[royal heron]

You could probably try JCP

Japanese Community Project

[torn pivot]

Final Doom - Tnt: Evilution Map 16: Deepest Reaches (UV-100%) [Crispy Doom]
https://youtu.be/weAsCdiQcqY

[jade flare]

I love how those 2 megawads are called Final Doom when in actuality, it's not the final chapter of the franchise.

[dapper flint]

Oh man... half way there haha

[sturdy sparrow]

Hello, may I ask for WAD suggestions of rather new (only a few years old) WADs, please? I think I have already played through most of the popular ones 🙂

[finite crag]

You try frozen time?

[sturdy sparrow]

haha thank you, I don't think I've ever heard of it 🙂 will fire it up 👍

[finite crag]

It's one map that takes about 30 minutes, it's really good, just the right difficulty, and has clever secrets

[dapper flint]

Eviternity

Heartland

Valiant

[sturdy sparrow]

I ran the map with prboom-plus because that was recommended. Do you happen to know the command to unbind/clear binds in the menu?

[sturdy sparrow]

Thank you very much, will write them down

[pearl osprey]

There are no commands in prboom+ you, if you want to rebind keys you have to do it from the options menu

I think backspace or delete keys clear a keybind

[sturdy sparrow]

yes I have done that, and everything is fine, I just don't know how to unbind/clear the default binds in the option (backspace and delete do not work) because I don't want to walk forward if I press right mouse ^^

alright I can live with that ^^

[pearl osprey]

I just checked and yeah it is the DEL key

you hover over the key binding and click del

don't press Enter beforehand

[sturdy sparrow]

I can't hover, I can only use the keyboard. But it's ok. I just restarted the program and now all of a sudden the toothpaste filter is enabled 😭 (where you can't see the pixels) Do you know how to turn it off?

[pearl osprey]

yeah

Options > General > Go to 8th page > Set Texture filtering mode to none

[sturdy sparrow]

it must have changed because I wanted to play with Ketchup

[sturdy sparrow]

ok thx!!

[pearl osprey]

Hold on are you using GZDoom Prboom+ right now?

[sturdy sparrow]

it just says prboom-plus-2.5.1.4

sorry I'm bad with that kinda stuff

[pearl osprey]

I think ketchup is only a mod for GZDoom

[sturdy sparrow]

Sorry I had to bother you. Playing "Frozen Time" with GZDoom now, hope it will work as intended 🙂

[sturdy sparrow]

awesome wad, thanks again 😄

[finite crag]

You're welcome

[sturdy sparrow]

"WARNING! You need a powerful computer to play this wad." - glad I'm playing it ten years later so there are no problems ^^

[pearl osprey]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fUJNSKi_qx0

[dapper flint]

And it looked hilarious. It's funny because this is the alt fire for the bfg in metadoom lol

[royal heron]

oh srsly? LMAO

[pulsar jackal]

it's also in complex, the bfg2709 or something like that

[jade flare]

Conspiracy theory: Pain Elementals are female cacodemons

[split bronze]

I am interested, what is your proof?

[jade flare]

They spew out lost souls out of their mouths so they are giving birth to new breeds of demons

And lost souls either mutate into Cacos or PEs.

If they live long enough

[split bronze]

Interesting, but Hugo Martin said that the Whiplash was the first female demon

[finite crag]

pain elementals are cacodemons cousin

[jade flare]

And they are female, theoretically.

[jade flare]

Wait what about that one lost soul in Doom 3?

Or that unused character in 64?

[dapper flint]

https://youtu.be/Cqj2VSBvLfg

[split bronze]

That is a skull, skulls don’t have genders I believe

[split bronze]

And if it is unused it isnt cannon

I think

[scarlet compass]

ngl metadoom has grown on me

[steel lion]

it really sucked

[gaunt gust]

are classic doom montages a thing?

[dapper flint]

Hell yeah

[vast reef]

not as common as eternal but there are a few

[scarlet compass]

why does it sound like i'm getting messages when im not

nvm

yooooo BFG

How am I supposed to get the marauder to do the axe attack again

[vast reef]

what mod

[scarlet compass]

Metadoom

I think he disappeared

[vast reef]

i am a spectre

[scarlet compass]

nvm hes back

[vast reef]

i haven't played metadoom so ¯_(ツ)_/¯

i will check it out though

[quick lark]

[vast reef]

btw gougaru what controller do you use

[dapper flint]

https://imgur.com/a/P8FgwfV

[dapper flint]

This one bro

[vast reef]

aight

thanks

[dapper flint]

No worries

[scarlet compass]

imagine using a controller

[finite crag]

I use it as well. Just a PS4 one.

[scarlet compass]

I do have a controller I just like a mouse better.

[finite crag]

Cool.

[scarlet compass]

I also have an xbox controller tho

here lemme look for it

[finite crag]

Ok.

[scarlet compass]

I dont have a camera tho

so I cant show yall

[finite crag]

That’s fine.

[vast reef]

controller users are chads
gougaru especially since he beats hard wads with one

[vast reef]

my controller aim is garbage though

[scarlet compass]

I dont get how anyone hits anything with a controller

[vast reef]

you need to ascend

[scarlet compass]

I guess

But I only have 2 FPS games on console

Both for Playstation

I have the origional medal of honor and Battlefront II

[finite crag]

Cool.

[scarlet compass]

Battlefront 2 has aged well but Medal of honor has not

Either way I cant hit anything

[finite crag]

Damn.

[scarlet compass]

ok this controller isnt too bad

had to turn down the sensitivity tho

revenants suck tho

but yeah

mouse better

[dapper flint]

That's basically what I do. Map sets that are really hard using a controller.

[scarlet compass]

Why do people torture themselves tho

[gusty falcon]

Controller is honestly fine

[dapper flint]

It's not torture. You're yourself not good with it

Doesn't mean I would be trash too

[gusty falcon]

I've played doom with a controller for 2 years now

[scarlet compass]

I just dont get it

[vast reef]

skill issue sums it up

i can lie down with a controller

[dapper flint]

I have used a controller all my life so I've become extremely good with it. Better than the majority of key board mouse users

[vast reef]

and my hands are less likely to ache

[gusty falcon]

Like any control method it's just a matter of practice

[dapper flint]

Not hard to understand

[scarlet compass]

I use my conrtoller when i'm cold and want to use it under a blanket or, like psionic said, my hands are achey

[dapper flint]

https://imgur.com/a/JFtuTCw

This is map one of fractured worlds

Which I beat today

With a controller

[scarlet compass]

Also, dont take it as an offense I dont like contoller tbh I'm not very good at anything so...

:P

also I got a fire extinguisher to fight a revanant

[dapper flint]

Not at all. It is harder to use. Which is why I do doom things with it and hopefully show people it's viable. If it wasn't harder I'm sure people wouldn't care as much if I did hard things with it

[scarlet compass]

Basically if its any hard at all I cant do it

I really suck at stuff now that I think about it

[dapper flint]

It just takes practice just like everything. You'll get there

[gusty falcon]

Just need to pace yourself and practice

[scarlet compass]

Yeah well take Terraria for example

[gusty falcon]

I can show you a video that started me on some nice habits to take on if you like

[scarlet compass]

I have 1000+ hours and I still suck at it

[gusty falcon]

That game is kind of a different beast compared to doom with a controller but it's actually very customizable

[scarlet compass]

I should have gotten some idea of what I was doing by then

[scarlet compass]

Are you using mouselook by the way

that might make it harder

[gusty falcon]

I pretty much use mouse look all the time

[scarlet compass]

yeah

me too

[gusty falcon]

The trick is atleast for me is to make the vertical sensitivity really low for fine adjustments and the horizontal sensitivity higher

[scarlet compass]

doom is not a very up and down game

[gusty falcon]

It's not but I play alot of mods so that's a different story

[scarlet compass]

I also play mods

cuz I get bored of the same shotgun

[gusty falcon]

Probably the closest I get to vanilla is pr boom plus and boiled doom or brutal doom dos version

[scarlet compass]

I beat the first doom game vanilla (with the exception of mouselook) and then quickly got bored

[gusty falcon]

Although most of the time i just play brutal doom classic mode with vanilla monsters toggled on because the enemy reactions are so good i feel like they should be default

That's where the sea of mods comes in

[scarlet compass]

At the moment i'm using metadoom

[dapper flint]

No I don't use mouse look in classic doom

[royal heron]

Don't use it either unless I'm playing a mod like EOA

[scarlet compass]

I use it cuz it feels more like a modern FPS

and it makes shooting stuff easier

[gusty falcon]

I use it because I'm very much used to having it

[scarlet compass]

that too

[dapper flint]

When you comes to classic the most I'll have is a little extra blood and blood changer and meta of course. I keep the rest as it was originally

[scarlet compass]

also the Meta chaingun alt-fire is OP

evaporates your ammo tho

[dapper flint]

Still love the machine gun rockets the most

[scarlet compass]

I like how you can aim with the gauss cannon

and the fire extinguisher is nice against archviles

I still dont have the SSG

[dapper flint]

Have the holy water gun yet?

[gusty falcon]

Holy water gun 😆 😂

[scarlet compass]

no

I just finished aztec

[gusty falcon]

What a rediculous weapon

[dapper flint]

It's the one from doom rpg

It makes demons catch on fire haha

[gusty falcon]

Holy water the Christian weapon of demon slaying 😆

[scarlet compass]

ok now I have the SSG

oh I wish I could post pictures rn

[gusty falcon]

#classic-doom-maps-mods
Post here

[scarlet compass]

ok there

gauss cannon OP plz nerf

caged is done

and only 6:35 seconds over par

told ya I suck

aight i gtg to bed

cya later

[vast reef]

see you later

[dapper flint]

I'm not a speed runner or trying to uv max so time doesn't mean that much to me

[eternal lance]

https://youtu.be/fUJNSKi_qx0

[atomic dust]

I was playing Doom II today and encountered one of the best bugs in the game, the ghost monster bug

[azure nimbus]

If you like it, play some Alien Vendetta. I think Icarus has it too

[brave sparrow]

I wrote a book on the Doom series. It is 86,000 words (currently awaiting if book agents will pick me up). Not sure how to get it out to people (I've tried agent queries, publishing queries, tweeting certain people on twitter, etc.) I've looked into Quakecon but haven't heard back yet. Anyways just kinda stating what I'm going through.

[vast reef]

can I read it

[dapper flint]

Splash damage is your friend.

[azure nimbus]

Finished map27 of Speed of Doom. I reaaaally had to route well for that. Some intense fights if you go in without a plan. Now it's time for Twilight Massacre. Famous for a reason with nearly 3k enemies

[remote hare]

I have the exact same controller lmao

[dapper flint]

Picture doesn't show those built in grips

[remote hare]

I usually play Dead or Alive with it

[molten iron]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/727127304555331585/938183121201926234/Screenshot_2022-01-31_at_23.16.06.jpg

How are these pyramids possible?

in Ancient Aliens map21

[finite crag]

I'd say height transfers and a lot of middle textures

actually I'd say just middle textures

also yeah they're just middle textures
https://imgur.com/a/j9Nu8kn

[waxen zealot]

Just finished Plutonia on UV Pistol Starting... Feeling like swiss cheese

[molten iron]

damn. It is really cool to see this in the Doom engine

[azure nimbus]

floaty pyramid

iirc, I cheesed that map. I killed the cyber early so he couldn't mess with me in the final room

[royal heron]

is it bad that for a second I thought that the lava looks like pizza with pepperoni on it

[finite crag]

no lmao

[scarlet compass]

smacks head against wall

[royal heron]

oh no

[mellow matrix]

that's just how I play DooM tbh

FDA-style until I beat the level or rage quit

[dapper flint]

[pearl basin]

I cant useen it now

[royal heron]

[dapper flint]

Dudes on crack

It's lasagna

[finite crag]

[azure nimbus]

finished speed of doom. Didn't bother beating map33 saveless. Maybe some day. Isn't as cool as other levels. Otherwise, the final third was very challenging and both authors have command over the hell theme

[exotic geyser]

What colour is doomguys helmet

It's usually depicted as black

but the sprite is grey

[vast reef]

it's never been black

[brisk burrow]

I just got prdoom port and it works for doom 2 and plutonia but not doom 1/ ultimate doom it just loads doom 2 with messed up graphics as If I was no clipping

[vast reef]

it should be prboom, not prdoom

and dsda doom is better

[brisk burrow]

Yea I meant prboom I just got it because I heard it had a lot of good wads on it

[vast reef]

wdym it has good wads on it

[eternal lance]

pro-tip:

make screenshots by pressing printscreen on your keyboard and send them by just pressing ctrl + v on the chat

[finite crag]

pro-tip:

no lol

[vast reef]

pro-tip:

make screenshots by pressing printscreen on your keyboard and send them by just pressing ctrl + v on the chat

[fast mortar]

[vast reef]

it ate a rare steak

[exotic geyser]

e3m3

My least favourite doom map in the og doom game

[vast reef]

no, the worst map by far is e1m10

[exotic geyser]

thats in the ultimate doom right

I haven’t played ultimate doom

[vast reef]

no

[exotic geyser]

I searched it up what

ok

It seems I have been bamboozled

Xbox exclusive or something

[vast reef]

i don't have an xbox

[valid linden]

eyo

[pearl osprey]

Don't use prboom it's an ancient port, use Prboom Plus or one of it's forks like dsda doom or Prboom Plus UM

[royal heron]

There are a few good maps in E4

Like E4M2 and E4M6

[royal heron]

Don't use PrBoom

It's an abandoned project

[azure nimbus]

PrBoom+ even got replaced by DSDA iirc

[royal heron]

It's honestly a miracle you've somehow found a build that works today or you just have an older computer

Use DSDA-Doom

[azure nimbus]

I'm still going to shill for woof because it has controller support

[royal heron]

Yeah Woof is also a good option

[azure nimbus]

wish I knew how to record demos though

[molten iron]

Prboom+ is still mantained, but is in a “maintenance mode”
They wont add many new features, just fix bugs

But yeah, people should use dsda-doom

[royal heron]

The most popular ports right now are probably DSDA, Woof, or GZDoom

Eternity i think falls as a close fourth

[molten iron]

-record demoname.lmp

[royal heron]

^

[molten iron]

Crispy is probably up there

[royal heron]

Oh true

[azure nimbus]

Tried it and as far as I can tell nothing happened

[royal heron]

It's because you'll have to exit afterwards

It doesn't create the demo until after you exit the game

[azure nimbus]

I exited the game

[royal heron]

It probably put it in somewhere

[azure nimbus]

I have a function on my computer to search files and I did find several .lmp files(presumably built in demos) but no map01 from 2/2/2022

least twitch is easy to figure out lol

[safe moon]

slowly inching my way through btsx ep2 rn

god i hate map 10 sm, tho this is my first time pistol starting a megawad, but i still hate map 10 cuz it loves spawning ambushes behind you and dragged for about 40 minutes

episode 4 is honestly one of my favorites in terms of commercial doom wads. right under plutonia

[azure nimbus]

btsx does suffer from "magnum opus" syndrome like decino said. These are maps meant to be memorized or at least played with saves. They are massive levels, at least for vanilla non-slaughter standards

[merry tiger]

hello everyone, would someone here be ok to teach me how to go multiplayer on doom 1 or 2 with brutal doom later ?

[dapper flint]

How good is the controller feed back though ?

I know with eternity the always run is a bit jank

[azure nimbus]

it's been good for me. It is a feel thing of course but I do find it smoother than eternity. No solonet though and I know you like that

[dapper flint]

Awe man !!!

Well I mean getting more ports with controller support is a good thing regardless

[azure nimbus]

Supposedly, they're getting around to adding it but that only goes so far

[finite crag]

Ashes 2063 is good shit

[atomic dust]

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=ix8Y4ijmlaw

[vital knoll]

Anyone ever remake Doom 3 in the classic Doom style?

[dapper flint]

Yeah I think it's called doom haha

[vital knoll]

Good for you

[dapper flint]

Yes

[azure nimbus]

Hell Ground was a good mapset. Short, only 7 maps(map 6 has no monsters so it's only 6 longer levels). It's easy enough to be accessible to most everyone and has amazing atmosphere

[vital knoll]

Might try it

Getting into Ashes 2063

[scarlet compass]

There should be a beans doom mod

where the only weapons are beans

bean gun

plasma bean gun

BeanFG9000

[dapper flint]

Absolutely

[scarlet compass]

I would make it but I have no talent and also dont know how

[tidal patio]

Hello

[stray lance]

Any idea how I could get multiplayer working with gzdoom?

For The Ultimate Doom

[finite crag]

Idk man.

[stray lance]

Welp

[vast reef]

zdl adds a gui to the multiplayer setup to make it piss-easy to understand

or just use zandronum + doomseeker

[finite crag]

I’m trying to make levels with doom builder now

It’s pretty fun

[halcyon willow]

you can only run gzdoom peer to peer. zandronum is much easier

[azure nimbus]

anyone know any consistent strategies for combat shock 2 map05's last room? Decino killed mancs before entering phase 2 but my intuition is to keep the mancs alive to fight the revs. After doing that, I got it on only the second try with lots of ammo to spare. The idea is that if you trigger the rev wave fast enough, the mancs are still on the outer edge and they insulate you from most rev rockets and let you do laps before revs close in (remember how slow mancs are compared to revs). Then after only a minute or so, almost everything is dead. I've tried my best approximation of copying decino's strategy a lot but never found any consistent success. I think he may have "gotten away with it" because his execution is excellent.

[dusky cypress]

Is there a way to get these wads working with Wadsmoosh? I've really been wanting to play through the Console DOOM levels, and this is the best I've found so far, but condoom1.pk3 does not seem to be compatible with SIGIL, and loading with DOOM_COMPLETE.pk3 only shows the four Ultimate Doom episodes (no SIGIL and later).
https://forum.zdoom.org/viewtopic.php?f=4&t=36600&sid=0609168052ffde8228e4142b27fa1f63

[finite storm]

Just circle strafe the entire thing that's what I did. They will just all kill themselves. If you can weave through the mancubus fireballs for a couple of laps they should all be infighting by then

[torn pivot]

Final Doom - Tnt: Map 17: Processing Area (UV-100%) [Crispy Doom]
https://youtu.be/sY0h3z6W-b8

[royal heron]

Nice

[stray lance]

Anyone know where I could get a Cacodemon plush?

[dapper flint]

Bethesda store and ebay

[gloomy scaffold]

guys pls help, where I can install Id tech 1?

[pearl osprey]

Id tech 1 is the name of the original classic doom engine, is that what you're looking for?

If then all you have to do is download any version of doom (on steam is a good place)

[azure nimbus]

https://www.twitch.tv/videos/1285574374?t=00h51m06s Circle strafing maaaybe but it was way way more consistent for me to trip the revs very early and use everyone else as meat shields. Succesful run at the 51 min timestamp (video is of me doing it UVmax without loads today). consider turning down volume when I get to the platforming... and 1:59 for the final room

[dapper flint]

I hate obs sometimes

[icy fulcrum]

Ok just a weird question: do you know if there is a wad that has political stuff? So far the only one I know is Trump Doom.

[royal heron]

I know one called Thatcher's Techbase

[azure nimbus]

I wish I knew how to work that thing. I use the twitch app itself cuz I dum.

Next map is hard but seems rather doable after the last one.

[zenith berry]

There’s also a mod named “Pinochetstein” if I get it right.

[royal heron]

Sure

@finite crag I'll have it

[dapper flint]

Me also

[azure nimbus]

got it to work. there's a special "end demo button on woof

[gusty falcon]

Anyone here play exomoon?

https://youtube.com/playlist?list=PL6Uy1VolrHMc2J6U7PpnICaYc5clFcQV3

[gusty falcon]

https://www.doomworld.com/forum/topic/101755-exomoon-megawad-directors-cut-release/

Honestly I just love how wide open the levels are and how non linear they are

It's usually the perfect fit for gameplay mods that offer some type of mobility enhancement

I find I can usually run and jump and climb around these levels all I want and the key progression still is still designed in a way that I still atleast have to get the keys

[eternal lance]

there is a certain awful wad known as ||/pol/.wad||

[gusty falcon]

Although having them be so non linear usually ends up with me getting lost 😆

[steel lion]

what are the deh/bex????

[gusty falcon]

Deh or a dehacked file let's. custom wads work with dos doom

If you're using a source port you can just ignore them

[steel lion]

oh ok

that things are mods for dos doom?

[gloomy scaffold]

Oh, ok

[gloomy scaffold]

I searched for it in game's folder but didn't find anything

[vast reef]

id tech 1 is the doom.exe

or i think doom is id tech 2 and wolfenstein is id tech 1

[pearl osprey]

Doom.exe

Thats the engine

If you have doom on steam there will be 2 folders, 'base' and 'rerelease', in the base folder you have the original MS-DOS doom

When you launch steam from the library you get the option to play the DOS version, that's id tech 1

[gloomy scaffold]

Thank you!

[azure nimbus]

Found it really helpful to practice 2-tapping cybers with fastmonsters(or on nightmare). This way, you're simulating the "worst" behavior they could have. What I found is that if I pull the trigger just as he fires the second rocket and am extremely close when the bfg ball is released then he takes all 40 tracers before he has a chance to retaliate.

[pearl osprey]

You can upload it for everyone on #classic-doom-maps-mods

[royal heron]

PracticeHub by Meowgi has a level for 2-tapping cybers, it's pretty good

It also has an advanced section for 2 tapping cybers in an enclosed hallway

[compact escarp]

how to kill archviles quickly bc they literally respawn all the f-ing demons and i end up dying and wasting ALL OF MY AMMO

[gusty falcon]

Rockets rockets rockets

As in blow them to bits as quickly as possible given you have enough distance

[compact escarp]

is the super shotgun good bc shells are ez to get and also rockets are really risky and hard to get

[vast reef]

SSG's good enough but rockets make it much easier

[royal heron]

rockets, BFG, or SSG

it takes 4 SSG shots to kill them

like 4 rockets to kill it

and 1 BFG shot

[vast reef]

rockets do the same damage as SSG shots??

[compact escarp]

idk but i think SSG is better for archviles and other heavy demons bc i find them mostly in small rooms and rockets are gonna f-ing gib you if you use them in a tight spaces

[royal heron]

Use SSG or BFG then yeah

[compact escarp]

and imma be sure that i dont line my sight with an archvile's bc its gonna destroy me with an 80 dmg explosion lol

[atomic dust]

imagine if Arch Viles had the ability to resurrect boss monsters and other Arch Viles

[gusty falcon]

Good thing they don't

Or they'd be truely evil

[past field]

So does anyone else think that project brutality is a bit too brutal?

Like, dont get me wrong, its really fun and amazing, but its the screams and cries of the zombie enemies that get me

I just sometimes cant help but feel a bit bad for them

[mossy moat]

Roblox player 🗿 also I mean they are demons

[steel lion]

that does mean that is too realistic for you

[past field]

Well yeah kinda

[past field]

I dont play roblox

I mean I’ll keep on playing the mod, thats nowhere near enough for me to stop playing, but yeah

[vast reef]

i can't hear them over the sound of my PC's fans

[dapper flint]

Fast cybers constant firing will train up those reactions. But I prefer normal cybers so you can get used to the 2 shot 3rd rush bfg hit because I feel the fast cyber messes with that exact muscle memory

[past field]

although the only big problem with project brutality is that some doom episodes just really dont work well with it

most notably being thy flesh consumed and sigil

[azure nimbus]

maybe it's just the direction that I was erring, but fast cybers seemed "stricter" where any time you get them, you would get normal ones. what condition is that not the case?

[azure nimbus]

I'll check it out

[dapper flint]

Well the standard 2 shot rush on the third is a bit doable but more risky not as consistent and it threw my timing off especially. I swear I just couldn't do it. Besides that I just avoid fast monsters in general now because it forces you to play more conservatively or just relaying on infighting door fighting. Really messed with my muscle memory

[azure nimbus]

I'm not a big fan of fast monsters in general. But I did like this one specific circumstance for practice.

[steel lion]

i love playing deathmatchs against random people

[azure nimbus]

Coop is when there's a cyberdemon in the map. Deathmatch is when there are hitscanners

[steel lion]

both

[pure relic]

today I achieved another two trophies in first doom on ps4 so I have only 2 trophies left for my first ever platinum trophy!

I'm pretty proud of myself:]

[gloomy scaffold]

nice 👍

[plucky sable]

does anyone know if someone modded the doom 2 maps and weapons into ultimat edoom

[molten iron]

if you want to play doom 2, just buy it 🤨

[plucky sable]

worth a try

[fast mortar]

Doom 2 fans when they see a city

[dapper flint]

Speaking of city moonlit district is a good little city wad that just came out

[gusty falcon]

Yeah depending on the monster placement it definitely can be For thy flesh consumed to play it i had to drop it down to the second easist difficulty from what I normally played on brutal difficulty other wise perfect hatred was just insane

[halcyon willow]

the timing on a 2 shot is very specific. i don't think doing it on fast monsters won't help make you better on normal settings

[dapper flint]

I feel it helps with reaction time but it must have just been me because my cyber timing was full on jank after

[halcyon willow]

i find 2 shotting to not be about reaction time

more the rhythm

i was firing a fraction of a second too late for a while and was getting hit on the cyber's quick refire. small adjustment to shooting earlier got rid of that

[dapper flint]

Yeah! It's that refire for sure when you press him. Luckily I got the timing of that a bit better today

[finite crag]

i cant download brutal doom bcuz i cant open the 7zip file as archive or something

@halcyon willow

[halcyon willow]

you need to unzip the file

[finite crag]

yeah it cant unzip it cuz it cant open it as archive

[halcyon willow]

download 7zip

right click the file

7zip > open archive

[finite crag]

i already got 7zip

[halcyon willow]

welp

[finite crag]

ah well i want project brutality how do i download it? @halcyon willow

project brutalty 3.0

im new to downloading mods so idk what to do really

[azure nimbus]

finished combat shock 2 today. I had so little health left with zero monsters remaining on map06. I thought that I would die in the lava. But thankfully, decino taught us nukage rhythm so I could grab more health safely.

[finite crag]

Do you guys type the old cheat old from the doom 1 or 2?

[vale forum]

Are the Slayer’s Collection versions of Doom ‘93 and Doom 2 good

[dusk dagger]

Yes, from my experience

Better port than BFG edition's

[steel lion]

[finite crag]

Hi

[safe moon]

do u ever just constantly accidentally play the entirety of knee deep in the dead multiple times

[vast reef]

yes

[finite crag]

does anyone have a mod that includes expanded monster sounds into the game?, like how doom zero does it

[onyx bloom]

Guys, is there any doom mod with abilities similar to rage2, at least shutter, that was also present in new shadow warrior?

doom 1993

[ionic sable]

https://youtu.be/nphX9qGcvVY

[iron moth]

I don’t remember if I already told you guys but I beat DOOM 1 last month

[vast reef]

ok

[royal heron]

constant archvile trapping is mundane

once or twice, good

make it unpredictable

[azure nimbus]

finally beat umbreion nills from tangerine nightmare. Took a lot of practice but we got it. revisiting mscp map 14 though, seems as out of reach as ever. I really struggle on the pain elemental fight

[dapper flint]

Excited for the uv plus playthrough I'm doing

[azure nimbus]

of TN?

[dapper flint]

Yeah I'm recording a uv plus playthrough. Just did map 1

[vivid vine]

I thought you were doing AV

[azure nimbus]

I've been basically studying decino play mscp14 and I noticed that he hit PEs with one rocket each before killing them, more or less. This means that they explode together which helps a ton. That might be the missing piece for me.

I'm pretty proud to have finally beaten map10 of TN just because I played TN so early on and wasn't able to beat the bonus map. I had it on hold for a long time now.

does recording a demo automatically enable -shorttics?

[dapper flint]

That also

And eviternity plus

And map 7 of moonlit district today

[dapper flint]

You should feel proud it's a fantastic few maps

[azure nimbus]

TN was one of my first non-vanilla wads and I have had that last map on the backlog for months. Now MSCP14 is next on that "this is too hard right now list" and last.

[vivid vine]

I've just been doing a series of wads both to get better and shake off the rust, get used to pistol starting, and thusly use that to springboard into crossing off a lot of wads as having been pistol started. I started with Ultimate Doom, then did Fava Beans, then just did Double Impact and now I'm moving onto Doom 2. I'm trying to continually build up higher, definitely get the iwads out of the way, so I can at least get up to doing Alien Vendetta.

[dusk forge]

Can we get a 4 player Co-OP for the classics

[dapper flint]

I actually liked the last level of double impact

[vivid vine]

I had to restart the entire map because the first time activating every switch apparently just didnt work

[vast reef]

with zandronum, yeah

[steel lion]

what whas the spechits overflow?

[exotic geyser]

What should I after doom 1

[dapper flint]

2

[abstract sonnet]

yo uh how do i mod doom 2

i just got my hands on a doom 2 mod called brutal minecraft and i dont know how to set up the mod

[royal heron]

you making a PWAD or a full blown mod?

oh

you mean how to run mods?

[abstract sonnet]

yep

[royal heron]

you need GZDoom, first and foremost

[abstract sonnet]

its pre-installed in the modpack

[royal heron]

you know what version of GZDoom it is?

[abstract sonnet]

idk

[royal heron]

it's still better imo to just download off the official ZDoom website so you have the latest version

[abstract sonnet]

ok so whats the next step

@royal heron yo

[royal heron]

you downloaded the latest version of gzdoom?

[abstract sonnet]

no

[royal heron]

alright, whatever ig it doesn't matter as much

[abstract sonnet]

the gzdoom is pre-installed so whats the next step

[royal heron]

ok so you need the base IWAD files first

you have doom on steam?

[abstract sonnet]

no

[royal heron]

gog.com?

[abstract sonnet]

nope

[royal heron]

ok so in order to play doom mods first

you need a copy of doom

[abstract sonnet]

the whole entire game is pre-installed

[royal heron]

you'd most likely buy it off the websites I just listed

wdym pre-installed?

[abstract sonnet]

the gzdoom in the folder is just a copy of doom 2

[royal heron]

...

does it have the name DOOM2.WAD?

[abstract sonnet]

nope the file is just gzdoom.exe

[royal heron]

so you don't have the files

GZDoom doesn't come with a copy of doom

you have to buy that separately

[abstract sonnet]

okay but the mod folder also comes with zandronum

[royal heron]

doesn't matter, sourceports never come packed with the game files

because that is piracy

[abstract sonnet]

so now what

[royal heron]

you have to buy doom if you don't have it, because you cannot run GZDoom without base files from doom called IWADs

[abstract sonnet]

the gzdoom.exe runs fine

[royal heron]

alright so you're telling me

when you run the .exe, DOOM ports up?

[abstract sonnet]

yep

the game itself is doom 2

[royal heron]

alright, that's complete piracy and shouldn't be legal

[abstract sonnet]

okay then idek

[royal heron]

but whatever

you see any files in there called .pk3?

[abstract sonnet]

yep

[royal heron]

drag and drop that over gzdoom.exe

[abstract sonnet]

i can't drag and drop shit

[royal heron]

why? you should be able to

false

that myth has been debunked

[hollow coral]

Oh ok

Thx for correcting me

[abstract sonnet]

when i click on all of the PK3 files the mouse cursor turns into a red circle with a line

[royal heron]

you don't click on them

oh wait nvm

[abstract sonnet]

i just used ctrl+click and tried to drag them

[royal heron]

i see what you mean

no just highlight them and drag them

[abstract sonnet]

i can't send images

and plus

idek if highlight and drag works

[royal heron]

ofc it works

[abstract sonnet]

then wtf is highlight im not even an expert at computers

[vast reef]

just download gzdoom

have the wads in a folder

doesn't matter where since gzdoom pretty much searches your entire pc anyway

[royal heron]

you basically just

[vast reef]

then drag and drop the mod files onto gzdoom

[royal heron]

drag them out the desktop

hold down the mouse button

this blue square thing will show up

and drag it over the pk3 files

[vast reef]

mod files can be .wad, .pk3, or even zips/folders

[royal heron]

that's called highlighting

then drag it over gzdoom.exe

[vast reef]

https://www.moddb.com/mods/brutal-minecraft

download the file and extract it, then drag the pk3 or whatever the mod file is over gzdoom

[abstract sonnet]

already downloaded the mod

[vast reef]

so you've gotten it to run

[royal heron]

this is making my brain hurt

[abstract sonnet]

NO NOT YET

[vast reef]

yes

[abstract sonnet]

i just did step one and two

download and extract

[royal heron]

it's also possible to send pictures

[abstract sonnet]

dude

[vast reef]

send it in another server

[royal heron]

you just have to send them as a discord link

[vast reef]

click it, press open original then copy the link

[royal heron]

and discord will embed them

[vast reef]

or use an image hosting site like imgur

[abstract sonnet]

the mods should make it easier to send pictures instead of sending links but whatever

[royal heron]

it's just like that

¯_(ツ)_/¯

because if people had image perms, we'd have trolls in here

with this being such a big server

[abstract sonnet]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/888429531470364782/939779384087298108/unknown.png
heres the extracted folder

[vast reef]

double click play brutal minecraft gzdoom .bat

[royal heron]

this ^

and you said that the mod already came with the IWAD?

[vast reef]

but you need the doom wads

[royal heron]

alright, brb gotta report this mod creator

[vast reef]

doom2.wad

[abstract sonnet]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/888429531470364782/939779791039627274/unknown.png

[vast reef]

or doom

[abstract sonnet]

doesnt work

[vast reef]

drag the pk3 file onto gzdoom.exe

[abstract sonnet]

which one.

[royal heron]

wait hold up

[abstract sonnet]

what

[royal heron]

we gotta know which ones are required to run the mod

[vast reef]

bm beta and bmmap beta

bm is brutal minecraft and bmmap is the brutal minecraft maps

[royal heron]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/854794877594501143/939780173174280233/Screen_Shot_2022-02-06_at_2.10.50_AM.png

you need to drag these 3 over onto gzdoom.exe

[vast reef]

brightmaps isn't needed

[royal heron]

Flash, can you download the mod rq? Archive said that doom2.wad came with the mod, which is concerning

[abstract sonnet]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/888429531470364782/939780642193948672/unknown.png
bruh

[royal heron]

ah I see

it's GZDoom 4.2.1

that is massively outdated

GZDoom is now up to 4.7.1

...

mhm yeah I gotta report this mod creator

[gusty falcon]

You'll need to downgrade to the version it wants then

[abstract sonnet]

lmao f

[gusty falcon]

Not that bad really it's just having another folder for the older version

[vast reef]

did the .rar from moddb have gzdoom and zandronum included or not

[royal heron]

alright mod creator reported for piracy

[gusty falcon]

Piracy?

[vast reef]

the thing came with doom2.wad

[gusty falcon]

Oh i see

[vast reef]

according to dead archive incident

[gusty falcon]

It would be a shame if that mod got taken down thoogh

[vast reef]

they could have just included freedoom like how qcde did it

[gusty falcon]

Because as far as doom mods go it's pretty unique there's not quite anything like it

[royal heron]

came with doom2.wad, not allowed as that's distributing paid content for free

sure it's unique, but a wrong thing to do

[gusty falcon]

While I understand that
Fixing the issue is as simple as them removing the file from the download just like how doom 64ce removed the lost levels from theirs and added the doom 64 wad dependency

We don't need to press the nuke button on something that can be fixed with a scalpel

[royal heron]

removing it is the most simple way but the creator doesn't seem active at all, and people should know you can't distribute wad files like this in the first place

I'm just seeing rn if he also packed an IWAD file with his earliest release and kept that consistent throughout his uploads across 2 years

[vast reef]

he knew the target audience would be children who can't understand basic computer functions /lh

[gusty falcon]

Hmm in short he wanted it to work out of the box without them having to mess with alot of stuff

Admittedly now

That little ideal is gone

Because the current gz doom doesn't work with it

[royal heron]

it's good intentions, but it won't sit well with the people who do know how to work sourceports

[royal heron]

true

[vast reef]

since he has his own maps for it anyway
why not use freedoom

[gusty falcon]

Has anyone even tried to get in Contact with them

I don't even know if mod dB has any kind of pm system

[royal heron]

I most probably am overblowing this though

[royal heron]

yeah it has a pm system

just a knee-jerk reaction to something that isn't right

the problem though is that the mod uploader made their profile private

so you can't communicate with them

[gusty falcon]

Dammit

Guess it's time to archive it

[royal heron]

nvm I think it's possible

you just can't see their profile details

[gusty falcon]

That's good

[azure nimbus]

has anyone here beaten MSCPmap14? I'd be up to stream in in VC and maybe you could point out what I'm doing wrong.

[eternal lance]

why are pain elemental's horns moving inwards when he pukes out lost souls

[midnight wraith]

Guys have you tried brutal doom

[fresh violet]

Does the PS4 port of Doom 1993 allow multiplayer games with just two players? I want to buy it to play it with my brother, but the only gameplay videos I've found were with 3 or more players

[eternal lance]

i did

most of us tried it

[midnight wraith]

Yeah it's too good

[vast reef]

project brutality is better imo

brutal doom is still a pretty cool mod though

[gusty falcon]

It's better and deeper gameplay wise but brutal dooms gore and enemy reactions is alot more satisfying for me because it's far more interactive

It's the one area I'd say pb lacks in

[vast reef]

that too

[vast reef]

your opinion is correct

[gusty falcon]

Yeah hopefully they'll up their game untill then it's call of doom all the way for me to get my urge to have lots of weapon variety

[abstract sonnet]

Okay i finally got brutal minecraft to run

imma stream the gameplay

okay uh im confused

how do i beat the first level?

[vast reef]

get good

[abstract sonnet]

i didnt mean the actual doom game

[vast reef]

still
get good

are you lost or is it something else

[abstract sonnet]

ok nvm

the game just bugged out

[abstract sonnet]

i got rid of the mod now

[vast reef]

why

[abstract sonnet]

shit was literally impossible to play because of the bugged gui 🗿

[vast reef]

what was wrong with the gui

janky font?

[abstract sonnet]

the gui just showed the doom 2 gui and it wont show me my health armor hunger and ammo

making it harder to play

[vast reef]

what

how

[abstract sonnet]

i dont EVEN KNOW

[vast reef]

why did vega happen

[abstract sonnet]

i typed too many caps

[vast reef]

what do you mean doom 2 gui though

[abstract sonnet]

i mean the outside boundaries of the gui

[vast reef]

set the screen size in hud options

[abstract sonnet]

i already got rid of the mod

[vast reef]

welp

[vivid vine]

Press + and -.

[abstract sonnet]

shit also came pre-installed with 2 doom games

[vast reef]

that too

[vivid vine]

And get MetaDoom

[dapper flint]

You can with shareplay

[dapper flint]

https://youtu.be/6l4fEoq5N28

[steel lion]

what?

[azure nimbus]

starting sunder. First two maps in only a few tries but third took maybe an hour to complete. How much of a whooping am I in for? I recently finished combat shock2 but only barely

[steel lion]

i played with plutonia's map 32 with in DOS,sucked

[dapper flint]

Sunder tests your large group movement and target acquisition and your movement.. it really is a true test of skill

[steel lion]

the mouse sensivity is slow af

even in the fastest option

[azure nimbus]

maps 2 and 3 had some interesting stuff where I had to run away from a current fight and return to it later. like the start of map03, the part with the huge number of revs where you run to the cyber 1v1, or the imps + barons where you need to unlock the wooden building for more space. Then the end with having to trigger multiple waves at once with the invuln was cool

[dapper flint]

It definitely gets Spicer but it really just amazing. Hopefully after these next set of projects I'll be ready to tackle a couple maps pistol start no saves

[gusty falcon]

Coffeeguy and me already discussed that topic at length

Not sure if they managed to get in contact with the mod author to hear their side yet

[azure nimbus]

not to mention that map03 centered the plasma. idk why but I haven't seen that all that much.

[azure nimbus]

any good platforming practice maps or should I just play some maps with platforming on nomo?

[abstract sonnet]

okay uh

so apparently

gzdoom is also another copy of doom 1 or 2

but idk

okay nvm

i figured out how to set up gzdoom

fuck

[azure nimbus]

gzdoom is neither of those. It's an engine that runs it doom(and other games if you like). throw gzdoom and your doom.wad or doom2.wad into a folder with your ZDL(z doom launcher) and boom boom

[abstract sonnet]

oh ok

still has the same cheats system

I can still just beat any run by mashing idfak on the keyboard

[dapper flint]

Sure

[steel lion]

in my opinion zdoom should be considerer a doom engine

like ones used for prboom or classic doom

or even choco doom